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War of the Beard edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL

>Previous Thread
>>97472496

>Thread Question
Which of the legacy factions do you think will be brought back first?
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In case anyone is interested in reading the lore blurb about the potential Wood Elf vs Tomb King conflict.
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>TQ
None of them. Legacy factions aren't coming back. Enjoy your chinkslop and Ice Bears.
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>>97484740
Wood Elves are the faction I was most interested in but I was put off by the amount of metal in their range. I really hope the starter box rumor is true.

What's the source of it?
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>>97484726
It’s a quirk from this edition anon, don’t worry too much. I fucked it up the first month or two as well.
Honestly the rule should be put in with the skirmisher rule for clarity.
Skirmishers: bla bla bla.
In addition skirmishers us1 and below are harder to pick out and suffer -1 bla bla bla.


But yeah, hellblasters will fucking toast those dwarf copters, especially if you have a designated engineer nearby.
Double especially if you give him a gun to double tap afterwards. Just make sure to deploy so your hellblaster has coverage over where you expect the gyros to end up.
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>TQ
I hope none. They shouldn't waste resources on making models for those boring factions.
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>>97484725
>Which of the legacy factions do you think will be brought back first?

Dark elves are the most obvious choice I think, they'll get the beastmen treatment. Most of their stuff is still on square bases in AoS store.
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>>97484725
>TQ
vampire counts or vampire coast because i really want to make an army of them
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>>97485144
>vampire coast
tww reddit memeshit
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>>97485279
Yes, you just described TOW. Sorry, TWW is the new DOW, and just as with DOW and the 4chan of old most people interested in the setting got into it through that excellent video game. If you don't like it, the AOS thread is that way.
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>>97485144
Dude just use the 6e list for in tow, or alternately use the tk mortuary cult list- it’s a pretty close match man.

Coast is great fun and I enjoyed making them very much.
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>>97485279
Played the first game. Didn't like the downgraded settlements and braindead AI that can barely navigate sieges. Still think undead pirates are cool though.
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>>97485144
>>97485303
Expanding on this, start making an army, here’s the old official list.
sgabetto.free.fr/Telechargements/War.CZombiePirates.pdf


It did actually receive an errata on the old gw forums but that’s lost to time. - have fun.
I think the real strength of the list is the move and fire caronades and the bloated corpses- I often took 4 bloated corpses as excellent redirectors.
Don’t run handguns- use mass pistols, charge with them and hit with was getting around wet powders shitty accuracy.

The dogs, rat swarms and handgunners are absolutely fucking useless- so just make a few to keep amongst the lot of zombies for variety.
If you desire.
I think my lists when I finally figured out how not to get tabled with them were:
Luthor
3 shipwight including a bsb.
3 or 4 units of 10 pistol gunners(wights go here)
2 big units of 30-36 deckhands
4-6 bloated corpses
2 carronades(mvps) , 4deck droppers (sometimes hulks)

Bess once you figure her out and land a shot puts the fear in your opponent for months afterwards- but takes up many slots and is so prone to misfire.
1 undead leviathan(really good)

Anyway anon just start creating the vamp coast, I would love to see how you paint them.
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Repostan my Necromancer. What are you dudes painting lately?
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How would Kruleboyz look in an army with black orcs? .. too out of place ? ..

Just trying to find an alternative to normal boyz
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>>97485298
>excellent video game.
Bait used to be believable.
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>>97485040
Without a doubt Dark Elves are coming. The only question is when.
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>>97485389
hes cool as ever anon, how many pts of undead do you have painted?
I just today finished painting my 21 stormvermin. Will take some pics later.
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>>97485472
I think they'd suit better aesthetically with forest goblins and araknaroks. As they read very jungley to me. Probably the worst to rank up though.
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>>97485524
I'm actually fucking about with Mordheim and terrain at the moment anon, he's for my warband. I was working on O&G but took a break because recently I'm too busy to paint batches
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>>97485527
They seem to be ranking up fine in other images. So far i just have night goblins, from highland, gw black orcs and stone troggoths
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>>97485389
Almost done with this dwarf slayer.
Hoping to finally finish Battle for Skullpass that me and my brother got 20 years ago.
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>>97485551
Oh cool, well you may as well batch out the zombies for your mordheim band at least.
>>97485555
Oh that’s good, I had no idea.
I’m sure they would be fine then. I personally think they would look cooler with tribal paint like savage orks but that’s just me.
>>97485564
He looks like he’s taken one too many troll blows to the head, but the beards turned out really good anon.


>>97485389
Ratzzz at last. Next up, banner musician, and 2 more rattling guns incase my pals get more competitive and I start losing.
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>>97485609
Oops, they scurried off.
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>>97485472
aos stuff is too big to pass as a lower caste to black orcs

you could keep the idea of lankier underlings to your black orcs by using middle earth, oathmark or warlord games orcs
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>>97485636
or you could use a resin alternative like maxmini or kromlech or prints from avatars of war

kromlech also has enough heads that you could probably pick any bulky plastic kit, like mantic orcs, slap them on and still end with orcs that look like warhammer orcs

some recasters should have kromlech stuff, to get that cheaper too
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>>97485611
Thwy look very nasty. Interesting bronze too. Is it normal metallic paint?
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>>97485636
You might be right, might go for some highlander orcs instead
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My first 3 big uns, still need to base. I love these greenies!
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>>97485472

Avatar of war orc range is really nice and pretty close to Warhammer fantasy orc aesthetics.

I don't think Kruleboyz fit into TOW
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>>97485515
About a week after I decide to finally start on Wood Elves and drop some cash on them.
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>>97485748
I too am holding out on starting my Tomb Kings incase there is a refresh. Might get myself one of the new characters to paint to tickle my paintbuds.
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>>97485683
Thank you anon, its actually a custom recipe!
chain-mail silver base
Followed by a nice brown wash,
vallejo or army painter red contrast slightly thinned.
Add chipping/scratching via AHC chrome and chainmail mix.
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>>97485753
We won't know until Adepticon at the earliest, and then it might be months away from release, like with this Cathay second wave.
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>>97485389
trying to clear out my 40k and Aos backlog so I can justify starting TOW.

with any luck I'll have made enough space before that new starter comes out
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>>97485040
Online only is worse than the holocaust.
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>>97485844
84 dollars for 20 guys is still a little cheaper than most similar TOW infantry boxes
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>>97485472
Anon its orcs. They are not exactly uniform to begin with, one branch of fucks being a bit weirder and taller than the other branch of fucks does not really make a difference.
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>>97485849
the other boxes you can get with discounts up to 25%
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>>97485609
>>97485611
>He looks like he’s taken one too many troll blows to the head

Yeah, now that you mentions it, he does look a bit drugged. I'll just say he chugged an entire keg before battle.

>but the beards turned out really good anon.

Thanks, I spent way too long on it, so glad it paid off.

Nice looking rattos, I really like how you made the metal.
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>>97485849
I don't really care about the price as much as having to order from GW directly instead of being able to pop down to my LGS and rummage around.
It is simply detrimental to the hobby experience.
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>>97485860
Sure, but you're still getting the models from GW cheaper than you will when they get reboxed for TOW.

So it's not worse than the holocaust, it's maybe worse than, like, the Katyn massacre. Not a big deal.
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>>97485923
sigmar, i love big boobies…
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>>97485923
>Sure, but you're still getting the models from GW cheaper than you will when they get reboxed for TOW.
No, because when they get reboxed you'll be able to get them with the discount since they won't be online-only.

Are you daft or something that you buy from gw directly?
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I finally painted my first minotaur. Real happy with how he turned out.
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>>97485995
20 dark elf spearmen are 84 bucks from GW
20 high elf spearmen are 76 bucks from Amazon.

That's a difference of 8 bucks.

Of course I'm not happy about the 8 bucks. But if I really wanted to start Dark Elves, and I liked those models specifically, I'd probably be willing to spend the 8 bucks to have them months ahead of time. I probably wouldn't go to a full tournament army of official GW models at that price difference, but get started on some guys, figure out my color scheme, maybe even do 500 points so I could try some Foray games? Why not? Especially when for all we know TOW Dark Elfs might be on the other side of another price raise.

But if spending 8 bucks isn't worth it for you, that's fine. It's an issue of personal priorities.
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>>97486154
>Amazon
Nigger, are you being serious right now? I can walk down a nearby store and grab them for 62 bucks

move your fucking ass and look for better deals from your local stores
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>>97486203
Nta but all the stores in my area sell on full gw price, and it's not even like warhammer is popular here, even 40k gets drowned out by cardgames. I can get a discount but I'd have to order from retailers online which kind of cuts into the value in the first place.
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Made myself a border princes bombard

What are you working on?
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>>97486272
for when you switch from the chivalric code to the chode
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>>97486283
This is for Renegade Crowns but close enough (hence why I've used the empire stuff as a base)
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>>97486154
High elves come in boxes of 32.
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>>97486272
Basing my men at arms. I'm annoyed because I got a dropper bottle of whatever the dryad bark equivalent for army painter is according to conversion tables and it doesn't look like dryad bark at all.
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What is the easiest army, besides tomb boys to paint ?
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>>97486344
Warriors of Chaos.
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>buying age of shitmar miniatures to play a faction that's been abandoned by GW
lmao
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Owning models? Playing the game? A preposterous notion.
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I dont see legacy armies coming back at least until savage orcs come back.
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I want to have my BSB have a picture of the Lady on it like how some Christian tapestries had Jesus or Mary on it, but I'm not confident in my free hand skills.
Are there any decal sheets or transfers that have somthing like pic related on it?
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>>97486505
If you're not confident in your skills, then practice until you are. Paint on paper, paint on other pieces of plastic (primed of course), then paint your actual banner. Practice makes permanent, anon, so get to it! Now! Go! No shortcuts!
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>>97486505
>putting an elf on your banner
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>>97486096
Good job, would raid with! Going to use him WYSIWYG?
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>>97486553
nigga this ain 40k
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Pretty sad when you realise that a large chunk of sales, from some AoS' factions, are not actually from players of the intended system.
Another evidence on how moronic GW is.
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>>97486505
I think you could just grab that, after having that colored, and glue on top of a golden foil (fortune cookies are an alternative source)
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>>97486611
>a large chunk of sales, from some AoS' factions, are not actually from players of the intended system.
source?
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>>97486612
the main issue is that golden Christian imagery wasn't meant to flow, gold layering didn't work like that, it was mounted on a wooden board

which technically makes things way easier for you
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>>97486096
Is that from the realm of chaos line?
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>>97486635
My girlfreind's bvll works at Games Workshop as a diversity consultant
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>>97486710
even he wouldnt know the intention of customers for what system they are buying thos minis.
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>>97486553
Thanks. Yes he will be wysiwyg (minotaur with great weapon)
>>97486707
It's a 5th-6th edition whfb model.
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>>97486505
i like her nice perky healthy firm round boobs :DDd xP

this is what marauders should have looked like
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I need art of female chaos warriors please
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>>97486791
full women chaos warrior art pretty rare
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>>97486791
I think the only official art will be of Valkia, Dechala and Frydaal.
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>>97486791
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>>97486791
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>>97486791
We’ll get plenty art with the new chaos wave. Along with minatures.
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>>97486791
any armored helmeted chaos warrior could be an foid anon

gotrex and felix has a cool female chaos lord/chosen or something
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I am looking forward to new Tomb King core kits as I am sure they will look amazing. I am also sure they will be a pain in the ass to assemble. I look forward to seeing what new torture the designers come up with this time. Maybe having to glue in bones individually starting from a spinal column.
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>>97487496
it will probably be on a similar level to the new tomb king charecter kits from last year
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>>97487516
This looks like a mess
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>>97487516
for a moment I was shitting my pants thinking anon's exaggerated fears were justified
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>>97487496
>new Tomb King core kits
Are there even any rumors about these? I sure would be happy with new skellies and horses
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>>97487625
It was not fun to build.
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>>97484725
Which books have dragon related stuff in them? I'm researching dragons from different ttrpgs and settings, I'd be grateful for some pointers.
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>>97487709
too many and not enough, you won't find any particular depth to their worldbuilding
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>>97487709
Konosuba dragon maid, also look up vrita and Indra.
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>>97487516
no it won't because the tomb king character kits actually exist. Also modern GW skeletons are fucking awful to assemble, worse than the old if that is possible.
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This is my chaos sorcerer
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>>97487932
You seem to have misunderstood what "28mm scale" means.
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I've only ever been a GM but a friend I've ran games for in the past invited me to his first time GMing WHFRP and I'm so excited. I've never touched this game before and this is such a cool opportunity.

I'm making a Warrior Priest inspired by pic related, I was thinking he'd be a Tileian-bron soldier in the Empire who had a Visitation by Morr in the middle of a cruel fight and decided to drop everything to go to the nearest temple and dedicate himself to his new God.

Another player was making his character at the same time and he decided to do it randomly... And ended up pulling the Priest career so we decided we're both from the same temple and have been sent to Reiksland to deal with a sudden increase in undead and cult activity. The dice rolls landed us in a situation where I'm thinking of playing my guy as sort of the party's dad and specifically aimed at the priest he's guarding; gruff and stoic but genuinely caring for his ward(s).

Anything I should get in mind or read up? I'm not a minmaxer but I'm a forever DM AND this is my first time playing anything WHF related so I might be going a bit overboard and overthinking everything.
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>>97487709
Dragon Masters: the Dragoning, or at least one would assume so.
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>>97488207
2e? 4e?
In the latter case, the careers more or less play themselves. Do your GM a favor and read the rules for miracles and how to cast them. And all talents that are available to you. Your GM needs to juggle a lot, so you can help them by understand your own career well.
Regarding 4e:
Reminder yourself that talents add a bonus to their respective rolls. Not all of them, but this is a pretty big deal that a lot of groups are missing, because the layout of the book.
In case you are wondering what to do with your money, once you have a lot (depends on how much the GM hands out): improving your armor, for instance making it lighter, is a great investment.
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>>97488278
Yeah, we're playing 4e.

I did end up taking Blessings so I'm familiarizing myself with them, too early to worry about miracles but I'll read about them all the same.

One of the things I was struggling with is the weapon tags; my hammer has Damaging but I'm not sure I'm clear on the specifics of it.

"A Damaging weapon can use the higher score from either the units die or the SL to determine the Damage caused from a succesful hit. For example, if you roll 34 in your attack Test and the target number was 52 you can choose to use the SL; which in this case is 2 or the units die result which is 4. "

Any hope for an ELI5?
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>>97487653
>Are there even any rumors about these?
Just the TK vs WE box rumors. Core infantry and cav seem safe bets for refreshes being how old they are.
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>>97488368
It'd be pretty hilarious if tomb kings got another starter set with the ancient sloppy seconds skeleton warriors.
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>>97488396
I'd get pretty triggered not gonna lie
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>>97488367
>Any hope for an ELI5?
What?
"Damaging" means that for the extra damage, you can chose to take single digit of your roll, instead of the Success based on the target number and your roll.
In that example, that would be the 4 of the 34.
Rolling a 34 with a target number would mean 2 Successes, added as extra damage on top of the weapon's base damage + your strength. But with this trait, you can instead take 4 extra damage.
If you, in this example, rolled 39, you could instead add 9 extra damag.
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>>97488414
Oh I'm retarded. Thanks for the explanation!
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tag urself hehe :p
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What if instead of tomb king vs wood elves it’s actually Ogres vs Dark Elves how cool would that be
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>>97488653
Me one up from the far right bottom corner
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>>97488659
Would be booting.
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>>97488676
Boring*
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>>97488659
I'd still prefer Kislev vs Vamps. New models, refresh on vamps. Could pull double duty on skeletons by just adding some shield options that could fit tomb kings.
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>>97488735
Nah let’s be honest, any new skeletons will be blinged out rather than basic. For tks the bling level will probably be between current basic skellingtons and tomb guard
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>>97488744
If they were vamp skeletons they might be fairly basic. But otherwise yeah I agree with you.
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>>97488735
fuck that shit, vampires already have the now unused 7th ed kits for skeletons and grave guards

it's only fair that tomb kings are allowed to have their time in the sun with their own skeletons for once
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>>97488832
The 7th edition VC skeleton kit is to this day my favorite kit ever produced by GW. I was appalled to see what they sell for on ebay sealed/nos now.
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>>97486761
Tbqh I wish the Norscans existed as a non chaotic tribe of northmen, feels like they would serve well as a road bump alongside Kislev. The Warhammer Renaissance rules for them are kino.
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>>97488874
There’s nothing stopping you from making secular your dude raiders. Except for the concept of being secular doesn’t make sense in the Warhammer world but still, you can do it. Just run a wolves of the sea raider type list.
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>>97485717
Nice work anon, how many more do you have left?
>>97486272
That’s turned out really well, now for the true test: painting!
>>97486344
Ogres, don’t use gnoblars and you’ve got a 12 model 1k pts

>>97488872
Me too man, I have kitbashed together tha kit, the old pre tk split skeleton warriors kit, and the wargames Atlantic skeletons for my 50 or so skeleton warriors. No regrets.
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>>97488902
The new marauders are still pretty decked out in chaos symbols, but perhaps gw will try something like that with a future arcane journal or army of renown
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>>97488902
They wouldn't be purely secular, they have ancestor gods, earth spirits, "totally not chaos gods", and even some southlander gods like Ulric. Theres a bunch of dark age minis I really love but they all feel a little out of place with warhammer minis.
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>>97488653
Vampire.
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>>97488929
Indeed, but I think the way you paint them would be more than enough to convey your desire.

>>97488955
>ancestor gods, earth spirits, "totally not chaos gods
Aren't these already the basis for Norscan religion? All of these three simply being different ways to unknowingly worship the Chaos Gods in their various forms.
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>>97488990
southern norscan at least worship a lot of gods, not just chaos gods, but Ulric, Taal and pic examples of sea gods
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>>97488976
vampire?? hmm maybe the chaos sorcerer you mean? he was a weird awkward little sculpt and design lol
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>>97488872
Really sad these fellers aren't in circulation. In lieu of this, I've been kitbashing tomb kings skeletons with modern skulls from the skulls box, leftover hand weapon arms from my graveguard and leftover round shields from my ungors (the left hand holding the shield is still hilariously big but they're partially sanded down and hidden by the shield, noone but me is going to care)
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>>97488919
Thanks man. None, i finiahed tonight besides basing. Here are the Command Big Uns
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>>97486639
luckily there are no Christians in this setting
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Wip of my Sisters of Avelor. I already fixed that spill on the cloak. I will give them a brown base with grass on top of it to make the white more stand out. I. unsure about using gold for the scabbard,
I really like where they are at now. I got 20 to this state in a single evening.
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>>97489870
gold isn't going to start flowing like tissue just because christ isn't involved.
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>>97489913
Looks good. I need to learn how to do white cloaks, yours are very clean,
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>>97489994
My method is pretty simple, I spray an off white primer like wraithbone, shade with grey shade like smoke grey two thin coats, I spray with valejo white primer. Gives some easy shading. Otherwise i recommend just using grey shade in the recesses and then highlight over the edges with a true white. I also always thin whites with medium.
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>>97489733
I followed the suggestion to have the two bosses scrap. The shield one had Heavy Armour, Hand Weapon and enchanted shield.

The Warboss mini, acting as big boss, had great weapon and meteoric iron. The boss with the great weapon flattened the other twice, so guess I am going with him as my leader
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>>97484725
it's called war of vengeance OP
on another note i finished my second ranger, only took a year or so, by 2030 i should have a minimum sized unit
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>>97490135
Hell yeah! You painted the classic orc quick! Looks dope. Not to sound cliche but your post drips of soul.

>>97490262
You may be very slow/busy but you paint beautiful models.
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>>97490450
been busy drinking myself to death for the past year, i'm better now, one month free whoo
thank god for tww, playing dorfs helps with the will to paint
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>>97490468
wrong pic
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>>97490468
>>97490472
oh it’s you!!! I remember you posting these from a long time ago! Congrats on the month away from the drink. It can be a terrible affliction. I am so glad to see you back and to hear you are doing better now.
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>>97490468
I'm glad you're doing alright, NMMdwarfanon. Please continue to take care of yourself as you would someone you love.
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>>97490262
>on another note i finished my second ranger, only took a year or so, by 2030 i should have a minimum sized unit
Get back to the blood angel mines!
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>>97490477
i'm glad to see myself back as well, feels like i lifted a fog over my mind
>>97490478
eh, still working on the "loving myself" part but i'm objectively not a bad person, so there's that.
>>97490482
kek, maybe i should update the picture of the blood angel army, it's been growing steadily, i should be over 250 marines by now
if i can keep a steady life i should finally have a thousand playable points this year
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>>97490522
>250 marines
thats 2,500 pts of tacticals alone, surely you have over 1k already
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>>97490543
i was talking about a thousand pts of dwarfs
i'm well over 9000 with blood angels
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>>97485389
I'm pretty new to actually painting minis still, but I always wanted a Lizardmen army. They've still got a long way to go, but I'm really happy with the start.
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>>97490562
That’s a lot of blood angels

>>97490608
They look cool anon. Great job on the bases and using flock. So many new painters nowadays just slop on texture paint and never bother how to base traditionally. It’s a nice thing to see.
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>>97490562
Do-do you have a titan? I swear ive seen a similar image with a titan.

Also its shocking how big sicarans are.
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>>97490650
i do, he has a funky dragon on the knee
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How good are the dark elves?
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>>97490666
Fuck thats cool.

Also, its funny that theres a horus heresy off topic in WFG and a WFB off topic in HHG

>>97490686
In TOW? Not very.
Their infantry arent very good and their special rules are kinda sub par (lmao murderous).

They can still win games (they have dragons, and dark riders are pretty good) but a lot of their units are quite bad and a lot of their gameplay is going to feel subpar/abusive
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>>97490686
As >>97490704 said.

But I wanted to add that Dark Elves are 99.9% (imo) going to come back as a full core army. The only question is when. As someone else pointed out, they never even rebased them for AoS. If you buy them today they come with the old smaller squares.
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Is it me or is Nuln Oil kind of mid now?
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>>97490798
I agree.
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>>97484725
>TQ
Dark Elves for sure. I would like to see the Vampire Counts come back. A buddy of mine who I got into WFB would buy a whole army in one purchase if they brought them back.
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>>97489653
There are recasts available



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