Faerie Fliers edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97485323>TQWhat is your favorite flying creature?
I don't like most of the MPCAutoFill card art.Will my proxies turn out alright if I just download images from Scryfall and edit them myself?>pic relatedI get a low resolution alert when I upload this one onto MakePlayingCards
>TQhttps://youtu.be/CMNry4PE93Y
All fucking elves must fucking hang
>TQI dunno man, a guy in the last thread made a strong case for Abigale from ECL
Lookit this fucking butterball. I don't care about enbys but do they know Lorehold students are expected to do fieldwork?
Good to know this recent pro tour was won by powerful white cards.Oh wait. KHW.
>>97497557down syndrome
>>97497557>Transbian Vampire>Xe's a heckin' wholesome quirky chungus Boros :)
I love this card, my pod hates it and I love it because you can "reuse" it. Also because I love black and life gain vampires and the art looks badass
>>97497609Listener choking on my D and B's
>>97497619>Put a lifelink counter on target creature>Play another card that duplicates counters on target creature>AKSHUALLY, DOUBLE LIFELINK COUNTERS DOES NOTHING, IT'S JUST 1 LIFELINKI absolutely despise the brownskins and women who design this game with no understanding of the English language.
>>97497636why would two instances of lifelink give you twice as much life, anon? it's a not a trigger
>>97497636It is like first strike it gives permission to gain life from damage.
>>97497636Yeah, and if a creature has flying two times it should be able to fly OVER creatures who have flying only once.
>>97497657>>97497665>Saar, I have already done the needful once and I cannot do any more of the needful than what has already been done>>97497670Finally, my White brethren understands.
hilarious
>>97497676post your hands
>>97497690Before I do, how about you post a valid Driver's License? Or even a pic of your last meal (curry)? Or how about you type a sentence that explains what syntax is? Dumbass Hindu mudblood.
>>97495573 #Im going to run 2 of it in my Orzhov Cauldron Familiar list. With City Pigeons. Attack with Pigeon, return it to hand, get a food, sac food for cauldron familiar, repeat
>>97497657Prowess stacks. But I guess the point is only RDW is allowed to have nice things
>>97497710Firebending also stacks. Are you mad little blue mage? You like to think your the posh color but your just getting raped by red nothing personnel
>>97497710Prowess is a triggered ability. Lifelink is a static ability.
>>97497737>Prowess is triggered when a non creature spell is played, and triggers on a specific card with that trigger>Lifelink is triggered when damage is dealt by a specific card with that trigger>THESE ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT EFFECTS
>>97497746>Lifelink is triggeredNo, it isn't.
bring me backto happier times
>>97497756>ERM AKSHUYALLY NYO IT DOENS;T! >THE OFFICIAL WIKI SAYS IT;'S A STATIC ABILITY (nonsensical nonword) >THAT MEANS IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY TRIGGER (don't ask me how it activates since it never actually triggers):)))))
Could anyone please help me tweak this list, the manabase and sideboard in particular, without gutting the core? White is primarily for Lavinia which I believe will help alot with Cloudpost or other big mana decks and S&T variants, and Containment Priest. Ponder is omitted in favor of Consider to squeeze more out of Katara.
>>97497636If you want extra life gain from damage there are ways to get it.
>>97497670and double deathtouch should destroy creatures two times causing two death triggers
>>97497508Akroma, Angel of Fury {5}{R}{R}{R} Something about a flyer that tramples too. Also I think it's the only mono-red angel?
>>97497875why isn't it worded as lifelink doe
>>97497925
>>97497746>>97497768Pathetic posts
>>97498023so you can put it on the opponent's creature and gain life every time it hits you
>>97497768When you hit it does the thing without using the stack. No triggers are being created. Either way, menace doesn't stack, first strike doesn't stack, vigilance doesn't stack, don't see why lifelink specifically should
>>97498023Because it's not Lifelink, in many different ways.
>lifelink doesn't use the stackNewfags sicken and abhor me
>>97498167We love m10 here.
>>97497765Kamigawa block was a low point for the game and only appreciated years later by edh players who never played during its time in standard
>>97498053Weird
>>97498481>low pow jank and lore set is fun to play in edh because it wasn't good anywhere welsethey should take notes
>>97498530If only, maybe the format would still be enjoyable
>implying lifelink or (white) lifegain has ever mattered in the history of Magic, ever anywhere at any time.Lmao, kek.
I know the shitposter in this thread is just shitposting for lols and keks, but there are actually a depressing amount of players that earnestly outright REFUSE to even glance at the comprehensive rules to get a basic understanding of how a game mechanic works. it's like a point of pride for them to not read.
>>97498622It's the most played entry archetype on Arena.
>>97497508Tatterkite, as I always thought it looked like Bart Simpson.
>>97498502That's the single exception, every other instance kept the old wording . I think it's because it's the only card that got a new printing with Lifelink on it
>>97498622Lifegain is somehow actually good now
>>97498481I like og kamigawa because of the art and setting, simple as the new kamigawa shat all over that for no good reason and I still don't understand wtf they did that for
>>97497508dumb and expensive, but he's from the first real product I purchased when I actually go in to the game, no more draft nights to acquire cards
>>97498700It's Garfield's intention that I only learn how things work by asking other players at the table before I do something.
>>97498824>image did not post
>>97498700Reading the card explains the card
This guy was a house in the Natrual Order bant decks of legacy back when I started playing. It killed ALL the moats
>>97498980Woops
>>97498700My buddy tried to regenerate a creature into a toxic deluge and got super mad when he learned he can't. 5 yo behavior to get mad at the rules of a Game you chose to play
>>97498821Because Wizards knew MtG players only cared about surface level weebshit
>>97497557Why can't we get some appealing nonbinary art for fucks sake, I'm hating this feminine trans erasure. I suspect the defemalization of Ashling is also related
>>97499010I remember someone set up an infinite mana loop with Vivi on the board, and he said ok and that's the game. I asked how he was going to kill me with all that infinite mana and the poor bastard didn't realize that you can't endlesslu loop cards with flashback out of the graveyard.
>>97499186the only good kind of enby is the kind with big sweater puppies
>>97498815lifegain used correctly is an extra turn
I know we have some anons here that are fatphobic/anorexic and prefer to only eat broccoli instead of eating a nice good filling meal (like picrel) but I'm very comfortable with what has hit the mtg reddit a few days ago (picrel)
>>97499466>>97499475Even with the corset her gut sticks out more than her tits. Disgusting.
>>97499483https://youtu.be/4LJf9fYM8-s
>>97497557>don't care about enbys but do they know Lorehold students are expected to do fieldwork?He's afraid because there are elves watching him in the distance that will shoot him to death if he makes a mistake, not because he's doing fieldwork.
>>97498917nice one I didn't knew, valid on premodern but not for my budget fuck
>>97499483
>draft an OP deck>get to 6 wins>switch accounts>wait for a streamer to reach 6 wins>log back in>queue snipe them>deny the trophy
>>97499466Boob anon!!! ENHANCE......
is izzet lessons trash now or is the pro tour non representative?
>>97499685>he fell for the grancestral recall memelol
>>97498821cyberpunk was in vogue and they tried to launch close to Cyberpunk 2077
> StandardGay format ruined by wotc> ModernGay format for sweats> Pre modernGay format for boomers> VintageGay format for sweaty boomers> PioneerGay dead format> PauperMagic as Garfield intended> edhMagic as Garfield intended
>>97499797Block constructed is magic as Garfield intended
>>97499845Was time spiral block constructed a thing at the time? It sounds pretty terrible but also like it might be fun.
>>97499945block constructed was an official thing from the beginning of blocks (ice age + alliances)
>>97499945Time Spiral was when I was able to buy enough cards to build actual decks, so I'm biased to the era. It was the last time mass land destruction was a competitive standard card with boom/bust
>>97499797>doesn't know Legacy or Limited, aka the good formats, existgay anon
>Good art>Neat effect and flavor>Will never be printed and will be forgotten like all other Alchemy cards
>>97500190never ever
aa
>>97500190Alchemy has ruined arena and they really need to fuck off with the money grabbing
>>97500387I have never played any format where Alchemy cards are legal. I'm doing just fine.
>>97500425So you play draft and standard neat dude because the rest of the arena formats are pozzed
>>97500456No I play Pioneer exclusively. Well ok limited occasionally.
Now I'm just looking through forgotten Alchemy cards, how could I forget the fan favorite lesbian romance card?
>>97500469This is the white man choice in ArenaThe format without less UB influence and not Alchemy cards and the only real Magic format in Arena
>>97499617Eh, she's already stacked but they sure made a weird bra / support choice in that costume for her type of breasts and it ends up being not very flattering.
I have zero gamechangers and zero 2 card combos in my upgraded Ashling The Limitless precon, yet my friends absolutely seethe when I get her evoke cost discounted by 2 or more.These are people who run shit like Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bond, or Bruvac and Maddening Cacophony and then claim its your fault for losing for not holding open mana.But somehow me Evoking out 2 Elementals with 4 Mana on turn 3 or 4 makes them shit themselves in anger.
>>97500634>>97500589
>>97499186Has Ashling's new appearance been addressed at all? Trans? Ascended beyond gender?
>>97500634No. You.
>>97499466>>97499475>fat>old>low effort cosplay5/10
>>97500627commander sounds miserable
>>97500748It's not terrible when people don't try to combo your balls off or tryhard with instawins.
>Thread QuestionI don't know if you'd count her as a 'flyer' but either way she is my favourite.
>>97500634you sound like the typical pig, anon.
>>97500748I tried it once. I was so fucking bored. I ended up drinking a whole bottle of wine just to get through the drudgery of it. I ended up winning because my friend played kingmaker and gave the win to me. He had no chance of winning himself. I just threw together a shitty deck from my cube. The vocaroo really sums it up. It’s not magic, it’s a shitty ttrpg for people too lazy to even play a braindead game like 5e.
>>97500981then why is so popular, anon? why is turning real magic into commander?
>>97500981This. It is a board game played with Magic cards, nothing more.
Rites of Raping.
>>97498356I miss when cards rewarded you for, not necessarily getting card advantage, but for manipulating what card is on top of your library, without you just being able to play more cards. These days they print at least one pushed card per year that punishes people for touching their library.
>>97500748More than competitive formats, your playgroup really makes or breaks the fun of EDH. If you’re on the same wavelength as everyone else, you can have a good time, but it breaks down pretty easily. I’ve never understood why anyone plays it with randoms.
>>97498356I won my M10 prerelease by splitting the finals with my friend (whose deck I built for him with all the insane rares he opened and knew I stood no chance lol)
>>97501046Imagine competitive Commander LOL.
Anything can be competitive.
>>97499466Delish Nom, Grand Pizzabite
>>97501034>flash>flying
>>97501433kek
>>97500993Because it’s for casuals like womyns and other shallow egotists. Our modern western society teaches that nothing is more important than the self and your chosen identity. Commander feeds into this in the worst way imaginable. It is contributing to the downfall of the west.
>>97500190>etb gets a +1+1 counter.>counters remains in ~ as it moves to the graveyard or to the battlefield>At the beginning of your end step, if a creature and a creature died this turn, return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.Wotc is just full of hacks with 0 imagination or knowledge of the game.>>97500335>put a +1+1 counter on up to one elf creature you control.(as to not target)>>97500549It is ironic that the lesbian who started this ship went to work at wotc and made it canon... (it is the same as the italian-american writer who started working for wotc to make the Raven man be Lindul)God I hate the people working at WotC>>97501034This shit isn't even played in standard...
>>97497508QUESTION: was this AI generated? "I am Duskmourn" by Liiga Smilshkalne. I threw it into a an AI image detector and it said yes, but then when I check for discussions about it online and the /tg/ archives, I can't find anything.
>>97501775She posted no to Ai.
>>97501791I am sorry if this is her genuine artstyle and it has become tainted through no fault of her own due to recent events, but I am still sketpical.
>>97501791Her art before the ai craze 2019
>>97501795Here's a similar one from 2014.
>>97501799>>97501791Ah wait a minute, it turns out I already had one her arts saved. Okay, I believe she is a competent enough artist then. The Duskmourn's cards aesthetic is still uncanny, though.
>>975018082017
>>975018132019The prompt ask for two eyes but her art director allowed her to add more eyes.
>>97501775Digital art will always look like ai because Digital artists posted their works on places where AI got images for their databases.To know if something like this is ai you would better try going for VAginaGoth arts and see if that one follows the designs of ValgaPussy.Ai has a hard time following the exact design of detailed characters.
not to be an alarmist but Pauper is up on MTGA for the next 24 hours and it's the greatest format ever (which is why they only let you play it for like 2 days each years..).Arena players are so bad that you can brew the wildest shit and crush with any cards you want.I'm on GW dinosaur reanimator to start
>>97501902>bo1 onlythanks but I'll pass
>>97501902>Pauper>With Alchemy cardsAaaaaand it's shit.
>>97501775Considering she does analog painting too, I doubt that.
>>97501718WOTC doesn’t trust their retard player base with remembering perpetual modifications. Other than that I can’t imagine WOTC makes money from people buying digital exclusive cards right?
>>97501902i quit pauper because of mh power creep, writhing chrysalis creating exponential board stalls in timed matches is a joke and everyone at WOTC deserves to be in prison
>>97501718>put a +1+1 counter on up to one elf creature you control.Reread the card, it give +1/+1 to every creature in the graveyard. Not just the one elf you bring back.
>>97501902>historic pauper
>>97501980I think the idea was about making the card functional to paper... That is Why he made skullbriar template: doesn't work with returning to hand or going to library (while perpetually works in all zones).
>>97501951they don't print common Alchemy cards so there are no Alchemy cards in Pauper.
>>97501034>>97501450Wotc be like...
>Name>Cost>Creature - Two relevant creature types.>When you do the thing, draw a card.>Whenever enters or attacks, do the thing.>P/T (Extremely high for cost)Hire me WotC.
>>97502250>Hire me WotCyou'll need to meet the minimum melanin and estrogen requirements
>>97502090We're literally at the point where color shifted cards are real cards.
>>97502310Weren't color shifted cards possible but improbable to be done? ie Vigilance in blue had happened before.
>>97502310We've been there for a while though. I wouldn't be surprised if WotC literally uses colorshifted cards as a defense for giving colors unusual attributes.
All of the colorshifted cards are classic cards that are completely fine in another set of colors. None of them added new capabilities to any of the colors.
>>97502353It depends on the specific color shift.Generally they were significant bends. With vigilance in blue specifically, the idea was that because blue had a lot of 'untap target creature' effects it could untap a creature after attacking to give it psuedo-vigilance so it wasn't a break so much as a bend.
>>97502389You don't know what you're talking about. It was never a "bend".
>>97502353>Weren't color shifted cards possible but improbable to be done?No color shifted cards were explicitly things that might be theoretically acceptable in an alternate universe, but are explicitly NOT acceptable in MTG proper. The whole point of the set was being a showcase of things that aren't allowed.
>>97502425so true xister, blue gets every effect!
>>97502430All of the colorshifted cards do normal things that color can do.
>>97502425>Bro this one card from ancient history had it though!!!!!!!!!1Rakdos Vigilance chads RISE UP
>>97501902>Refurbished Familiar is still legalNo, I don't think I will.
>>97502441>All of the colorshifted cards do normal things that color can do.
>>97502389There were 3 vigilance creatures in Blue before Plana Chaos.As well as there were shit buff spells in red before Brute Force (Brute Force being really good at the time) >>97502354Beside blue discard (Piracy Charm, Riptide Pilferer) ("card advantage"), black tap (Rathi Trapper, malancholy), and white Drop of Honey (Porphyry Nodes). Every colorshift card made sense mechanically and had exemples of similar things happening in their colors before.
>>97502466>As well as there were shit buff spells in red before Brute ForceBeing this stupid is a talent.Red did not get SYMMETRICAL buffs prior to Brute Force, and still gets next to zero. Brute Force is NOT within red's color pie.
>>97502466What is the difference between blue discard and blue vigilance? They both have prior examples.
>>97502466But they weren’t normal. That was the whole point. They were alternatives of the color pie which were not normal at the time. The color pie has been pissed on so badly it’s just a muddy puddle of piss. And white in particular has a giant poo on it from a street shitter.
>>97502493>What is the difference between blue discard and blue vigilance? They both have prior examples.Blue still needs discard to be shoehorned into its color pie.GET ON IT, WOTC.
>>97497768If lifelink was a trigger it wouldn't save you from simultaneous lethal damage, such as during combat. See Armadillo Cloak or Spirit Link and similar technically not lifelink abilities.
>>97502507>If lifelink was a trigger it wouldn't save you from simultaneous lethal damageAND THAT'S A GOOD THING.COUNTERPLAY AND INTERACTION BETWEEN GAME EFFECTS IS A GOOD THING.
>>97502466You're forgetting the biggest mistake, according to Mark, Harmonize.Technically discard in blue is similar to counterspell white something they don't want due but if they expanded to a second that's the color it's going to be in.
>>97498502Mechanically distinct. Warhammer gives the creature the ability, which means that the creatures controller gains the life even if they don't control Loxodon Warhammer. Spirit Link grants life to the controller of Spirit Link, which is why it can be used as a soft fog.
>>97502517>You're forgetting the biggest mistake, according to Mark, Harmonize.>Counterspell in white>Sepll-based raw draw and prevent damage in green>Black mass destruction.No no bro it was totally everything inside the color pie bro.
>>97502493Blue discard is more annoying than setting maximum hand limits.Blue vigilance is less annoying the infinite untapping combos.In essence blue is already powerful in older formats that it doesn't need discard especially since players hate.According to Mark the reason they don't give white counterspells in standard is because counterspelling is such a polarizing mechanic to give it to a second color.
>>97502512It's unintutive and goes against original design intent. Remember that you used to not lost at 0 until the end if a step (or phase, I forget which) which would cause Spirit Link to save you like lifelink does now.
>>97502540>It's unintutive and goes against original design intent."Unintuitive" is code for "Filters retards."Going against bad design intents is a good thing.
>>97502512The counterplay to lifelink is to not take damage
>>97502548I would argue that lifelink as it is now creates more dynamic game options and counterplay, by encouraging manipulating attackers/blockers im such a way to negate lifelink damage from occurring, rather than ignoring it outright during an otherwise lethal attack.
>>97501957>Extremely cool ethereal arts>Is ThIs Ai?!?!?I fucking hate this planet.
>>97502389>>97502430>>97502439>>97502441>>97502451>>97502466https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i77e_nMqpcEIt does things the color could do but was not eficient with it, so you they were not common. There were lots of +x+x red cards before planar chaos the thing is that they were not good as red was only "good" with +x/-y effects (Fit of Rage, Paroxysm , Dwarven Armory, Giant Strength, Shiv's Embrace)Almost every colorshifted card followed the og color wheel on some level (with reasoning) and some were only color shifted for doing something the color could do in a minor capacity but really well.>>97502444Blue had 3 cards with Vigilance creatures before Planar Chaos (last one was in Ravnica btw).
okay but this fucking abomination though
>>97502598>(last one was in Ravnica btw).Ah yes! "Blue" vigilance!The card from the cycle explicitly designed as on-color sorceries, with off-color creature effects requiring an alt-color cost to get.THAT blue vigilance. Of course!
>>97499797> StandardGay format ruined by wotc> ModernGay format ruined by wotc> Pre modernGay format for jaded boomers> VintageGay format for sweaty boomers> PioneerGay format ruined by wotc> PauperGay format on the way to be ruined by wotc> edhGay format ruined by wotc
>>97502522>>Counterspell in whitespell piece = taxing>>Sepll-based raw draw and prevent damage in greenThere were some draw based on creatures in green and also green having card advantage based on high mana (not counting library). And Harmonize is card advantage based on high mana. A mistake indeed but not the most busted green draw card by the time it was released.Prevent damage in green: Fog and similar effects (also regeneration was mostly a green ability that was "prevention")>>Black mass destruction.Black had mass destruction before but they costed too much mana.
>>97502620>THAT blue vigilance. Of course!YES
>>97502627>spell piece = taxingLiterally fucking not a correct statement at all.
>>97502640Sorry the Card name is Mana Tithe. And yeah like other said: the reasoning for why it "worked" thematically is that it was a form of Taxing during a game, because players knowing that you had Mana Tithe would hold their good spells until they could pay the Tithe=Taxing. Are you done with your daily autistic rant?
>>97502657>Are you done with your daily autistic rant?NOPE.Similar to does not equal identical to, you moron.Half the damn point of the color pie is to define the lines between these similar things.Two similar mechanics being in different colors is indication that either color SHOULD NOT RECEIVE THE OTHER MECHANIC. Not a signal that you can fucking sloppily throw both of these distinct mechanics across the slices of the color pie.
>>97502616I get, the keywords make sense in terms of flavor and Reed is perhaps the most obvious blue (or dimir) character in the marvel canon, but fuck is it a mess mechanically.
>>97502681They make sense but they are unusual. That was the whole point of the color shift cards. Look at baldy here, he gets the concept more than you:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i77e_nMqpcE
>>97502689>That was the whole point of the color shift cards.Yes that is literally exactly what I am saying. The fuck are you even on about?
>>97502693it's okay to be shit because we made it shit on purpose now shut up chud
>>97502681>Two similar mechanics being in different colors is indication that either color SHOULD NOT RECEIVE THE OTHER MECHANIC. Not a signal that you can fucking sloppily throw both of these distinct mechanics across the slices of the color pie.There were always interlocking mechanics in the color pie. Nowadays Maro makes clear what mechanics is primarily on a color, secondarily on another, and Tertiary on another...Back in the day it was also true. With White and Blue having heavy tap shenanigans to tap creatures, white was better at pacifism effects while blue had to tap the creature or return to hand, black was really good at killing single creatures while white had to wait for combat most of times, etc
>>97502689Oh my god the absolute sovl in that pic
>>97502693In the Planar Chaos universe, you'll enconter a game that's the same but different. This set takes the "color pie" - the breakdown of which abilities fit into each Magic (tm) color - and throws it into the blender. Abilities that have always been STRONGLY identified with one color now appear wearing a new frame... BUT THE BASIC PHILOSOPHY BEHIND EACH COLOR REMAINS THE SAME. In a world gone mad, everything still makes sense.>Yes that is literally exactly what I am saying. The fuck are you even on about?you were had a rant on how shit it was because it didn't made sense in the color pie. When in fact they designed to make sense.
>>97502700>There were always interlocking mechanics in the color pieThere should not be.The ideal is for each color to have its own totally unique slice of the pie. Where they overlap, there should be differences in implementation between the colors.
>>97502716>STRONGLY identified with one colorAh yes. Mono-green unconditional raw card draw. In case you aren't aware, Planar Chaos is not design precedent. It was an example of what NOT to do.
>>97502737>>STRONGLY identified with one color>Ah yes. Mono-green unconditional raw card draw.>In case you aren't aware, Planar Chaos is not design precedent. It was an example of what NOT to do.I get it, you have reading comprehension problems or is just too tired but your autism keeps you going.Here:>STRONGLY identified with one color now appear wearing a new frameAnd why Harmonize was strange but felt ok: green had lots of "good" draw spells/engines in the past (those are not the only ones)Greater GoodNature's ResurgenceRecycleSylvan LibrarySymbiotic Deployment
>>97502787>Greater Good>Nature's Resurgence>Recycle>Sylvan Library>Symbiotic DeploymentAh yes, unconditional card draw!
>>97502805conditional card draw is like unconditional card draw so it's fine
>>97502823>conditional card draw is like unconditional card draw so it's fineMenace is really like unblockable so blue should get Menace.
>Fartful Dodge>U>Sorcery>Target creature gains menace until end of turn.>Flashback {U}Behold! Blue as WotC intended!
>>97502805You want me to post the 100+ draw 1 card instant and sorceries in green ? Or you want the draw 1 in upkeep? Again reading comprehension...>green had lots of "good" draw spells/engines in the past I never said those were unconditional draw spell, just said those were good draw spells in green.
>>97502866>You want me to post the 100+ draw 1 card instant and sorceries in green ?>He thinks cantrips are mechanically identical to Divination effects.
>>97502838Make it>Flashback Tap an untapped creature you control
>>97502870Done, but only if it also gives the target Vigilance.
>oh boy a color argument, I wonder if I scroll up->it's NOT the usual white schizo for onceHuh.
SOVLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9POppJrUpE
>>97502883I love decks that have tournament win chances solely based on not facing their bad matches.
>>97502883Owling Mine remains one of the most based decks ever. Punishing greedfags while crumbling to honest decks is ultra kino.
I'm testing Maralen in standard and the deck is just becoming Superior Spiderman Vivid turbo.https://moxfield.com/decks/fVSAWg9Tbk6zuwuM3sqjDgMaralen is still great to grab off Awakener though, and if I were to side deck against some matchups, I would bring in Doomsday Excruciator and then deck out with Maralen.
I’m going to stay up to try and get the secret lair in Australia time. Wish me luck or hurl insults/oink at me for being a piggu. I will get my Shart cards, my displacer kitty, my shitty Strahd who deserves his own card, and enjoy them and you can’t stop me.
>>97503042>elf humanHuh, that's a reversal. Radha is a half-elf and she's pure elf typeline, unless they've errata'd her.
>>97503042>or hurl insults/oink at me for being a pigguWill do, slopsucker!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUY9FmBvqms
>>97503051The second guy in the sunglasses killed it.
>>97503069Honestly WotC should sponsor him and get him as announcer for all the pro tours.
>>97503042>Wish me luck>You can't stop mesounds like you're very unsure about it all
>>97503042I wanted to like this, but the cards are such a bad selection. Maybe I'll pick up a victimize since I play it so much later. That SL with Xorn and Wild Magic Sorcerer on the other hand...
>>97503077I’m 50:50 about if I’ll just go to sleep instead. Shitty timing for Australians.
>>97503087Sleep is superior than oink.
>>97503087>hmm should I gain restful sleep like my caveman ancestors or succumb to fomo tactics by a company that despises me
>>97503091>>97503111Hard to disagree with trips. I do want the cards but I haven’t played magic in person for over a year. I mostly just collect them then grind as I look at them. I do play with friends online but I don’t need physical cards to play on cockatrice.I’ll see how tired I am.
>>97503155Go to sleep anon.It is one of the three most important things in life. You die without sleep faster than you die without food.
>>97499466>>97499475>>975007105/5 defenderHaha
>>97503163>Demonic Tutor and Wheel of Fortune in StandardYeah sure why the fuck not who cares anyway return an Ocelot Pride token and draw 7 this game is cooked.
>>97503168Not just that.D.Tutor, Wheel of Fortune AND Ancestral Recall in the Standard with ungodly amounts of combo.WotC's current lack of ability to design cards and maintain formats is legitimately apocalyptic.
I have UBslop fatigue bros
>>97503178Soon the only difference between Standard and Vintage will be cost of manabase and quality of removal.
Rules question.It is my opponents turn. I have an untapped Larder Zombie, an untapped Whisper Agent, and a tapped Dimir Spybug in play, my opponent casts turn to mist on my spybug.On my opponents endstep, my Spybug comes back untapped, can I use Larder Zombies effect to tap itself, Whisper Agent and Spybug to surveil 1?I have another one too. It is my turn, I cascade into Growth Spiral and cast it. Drawing a card, and putting a Mystic Sanctuary into play untapped. Can I then get the Growth spiral back with Mystic Sanctuary?
>>97503260Yes, you can always respond to a change in board state unless the card says you can't.Yes, the trigger for Mystic Sanctuary happens after Growth Spiral resolves, so it is a legal target.
>>97503157I might just set an alarm. If I care enough I'll get up otherwise I'll stay asleep.There's a chance my daughter will just wake up in the middle of the night too. She's gotten better recently but still sometimes wakes us up around 2-3am for a midnight bottle.
>>97503157I’ll set an alarm. If I care enough I’ll get up if not I’ll keep snoozing. There’s a good chance my daughter will wake me up wanting a bottle late at night anyways.
>>97503410I must be more tired than I thought. I just clicked through the captcha for fun without thinking I'd posted it already.
>>97503310Cheers man, appreciate it!We didn't know exaclty how the first scenario would play out, so we ruled you couldn't surveil. Where as we did play it right with the growth spiral, since I remembed I could get living death back if it renanimate an eternal witness.
>>97499186The only good enby is the kind self milled into the graveyard casting Rope.
>>97499616Which streamer? Implying it ever happened (it didn't).
>>97499797Trans
>>97500627That's why I don't play commander and insult any who do.
>>97500627lmao what is that art, why is Ashling a dude?
>>97503042>>97503083Fuck you shill/bot/retard.
were there any interesting instant cards in lorwyn for my firebending deck?
>>97503663https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Aecl+t%3Ainstant&order=color&as=grid&unique=cards
TURTLE POWER
they should have continued with the omenpaths for all UB sets on Arena
>>97503792They said there would be in universe versions of all these cards, but that clearly isn't going to happen lol.
>>97503810Only Marvel cards.
>>97503792I would unoronicqlly pay for OM paper versions of the shitty capeshit/Avatar cards.
I declare this is better than Deadly Cover-Up in everything but reanimator matchupLots of control / midrange scenarios where you sacrifice your mosswood dreadknight or get already had a fenrir die, then draw 1-2 cards while killing their indestructible threat. Or lategame when you simply burn them out with it
>>97503042her right hand is fucked, this was ai "assisted"
>>97503985You're getting to 5 mana? I'm dying on turn 3, sometimes 4.
>>97503042It's complete bullshit that they're getting away with chopping the female romance options into separate SL drops. There's no reason to do Gale and Shadowheart together except that it allows them to do Lae'zel and Halsin and then Minthara and Wyll, followed by Jaheira and Minsc. It's so transparent.
Have we gotten SL reprints of original SL cards yet?
>>97503918Unless they managed to miraculously get perpetual rights to UB licenses, or are printing what amounts to a massive reserved list, you will eventually get your wish.
>>97504023Bold of you to assume 99% of cards in general aren't implicitly RL simply because WotC will never choose to reprint them. The chance Archmage's Newt ever gets reprinted is near zero because WotC would rather just print new powercreep.
>>97504040Is really sad to believe this trend of UB power creep with 6/7 sets a year will continue at least for the next decade.Thanks Rosewater.
>>97504040difference being some nintenyearold will be a bajillion dollars for my NM Tonberry in 20 years
>>97504057pay**
>>97504057Either way both in-universe and UB cards have the same chance of being reprinted, which is to say, almost zero. WotC has always been the worst in the industry about this.
What? Did you goyim realize only now we are demons?
>>97504088I've decided to join the Jews.
Jews are the Master Race.
Jews ruined this game and it's not even a joke.
>>97504183But it's better than ever. EDH playerbase keeps growing and growing. They keep lapping up all the SL slop, too.
>>97504003there's a turn THREE?wow I guess the format really slowed down post-rotation
>>97504226it'll stop soon due to WotC failing to understand hopeless nerdsevery EDH discussion I've seen since Avatar dropped has been complaining about bracket violations
Exclusive promo for the Switch 2 version of FFVII Rebirth
If wotc did a secret lair full of /pol/ memes it would be the best selling secret lair ever.
>>97504356I don't think it would.
>>97504356what would the christopher dorner card look like
>>97503810No, they didn't.- If you're talking about Universes Within cards on Arena, that was only for the Marvel cards because Marvel didn't sell WotC the digital card license to avoid competition with their own online Marvel card game.- If you're talking about UW cards for all UB cards in general, they just outright never said that. They said they would do UW cards for mechanically unique UB SL cards, but that was because they were mechanically unique SL cards, not because they were UB cards. The UW reprints were a fix to the issue of availability, not IP.And yeah, they stopped doing that anyways.
>>97504356I would replace anime mean girl smothering tithe for jew scheming smothering tithe in a heart beat.
I'm reading the Edge of Eternities story and feeling like a huge retard. Can someone explain how this Endstone thingy is supposed to work? Everyone seems to get it but me.
>>97504356Only if they literally made Hitler
>>97504356>vanilla creature with P/T 13/50
>>97504412Magic rock that can rewrite the past. Say you're being mugged. You can't make it so "you aren't being mugged" but you can make "you are being mugged" happen differently, such as by having the guy forget to bring his gun and try to charge you with his fists. The more deterministic the actions it's trying to change, the less it can do and the move obvious the changes; when it was used to erase a mining colony, it caused uncannily unlikely coincidences like the entire food supply being ordered and spoiling every month and lightning strikes causing shadows in the exact shape of the colonists who died through explosions. The Summists can actively shield themselves by this by acting according to the movement of the stars, their birthday and other numerical values that would cause wide-sweeping changes.
>>97504412https://mtg.wiki/page/Endstone
>>97504294man, I saw this on some facebook group but I cannot find the official announcement of it or where to preorder it ANYWHERE. I gotta know what's up with that. Anyone have an idea of where to get it? this is like the one card I don't have as alternate/more expensive printing in my Cloud, Ex-SOLDIER deck.
>>97504478man what a horrifying post
>>97504469Wait did they abandon the fandom wiki?
>>97504525EDH players don't care about the story.
i wanted to do a redirect deck but every fucking spell now has the "opponent" clause by default
>>97504413>Adolph Hitler, Redeemed>Mono White >Legendary Creature - Human Avatar
>>97504356make it yourself
>>97504478could you delete this? it's making me nauseous
>97504664Lemme clean that up.>Agent Hitler, FBI>1UW>Legendary Creature - Human Cop Avatar>Exile up to one target creature if that creature's controller also owns a treasure token until Agent Hitler, FBI leaves the battlefield. At the beginning of upkeep on each turn that card remains exiled, put a +1/+1 on target Soldier or Vehicle you control.
>>97504356Pepe as the girtog monster.
>>97504580Kaladesh card I suppose.
>>97504411You can proxy it.
>>97504580>When Adolph Hitler, Redeemed enters the battlefield choose a creature type. All cards with that creature type are exiled from your Opponent’s Battlefield, library, hand, and graveyard
>>97504553>>97504525Fandom just sucks.
>>97504981Yeah every fandom wiki is moving to another site these days. The ads and AI shit are getting absolutely intolerable and their policies are cancerous.In MTG's case people just moved to a wiki hosted directly by Scryfall.
>>97504786Finally, a good white card.
>>97504521>>97504641brokie moment!
>>97504990Even with ads blocked Fandom has been horrificly shit forever.
Adolf should be Red.
gods the feel>opponent on 6 lands>activates mistrise village to make next spell uncounteralbe>casts day of judgment>.....>aang, swift savior
What does /mtg/ think about the lawsuit against Hasbro/Wizards?Did Wizards release any statement? I imagine they are panicking and in damage control mode right now. I don't see how they can keep releasing Universes Beyond sets after this fiasco, the leaks are damning. I imagine they can't cancel the announced ones but will drop the future, unannounced ones.
>>97504412EOE story was all fluff. Nothing happened.
>>97505390He's obviosuly White.
>>97505480Nothing is going to happen. It's just attempt #4757 to spin off Wizards out of Hasbro. the other shareholders will never let it materialize.
>>97505494They have evidence. Did you even bother checking the case?
>>97504525Yeah like a year ago. The new one is hosted by the scryfall people
>>97505480I like the Savannah. Scuffed cards are charming.
>>97498481Not true i played titty rat control and it was epic and fun
>>97505514you were a midrange player with delusions of grandeur.
>>97505497The "evidence" is meaningless. "Ohhhh they're devaluing the brand" is literally a completely meaningless statement.
>>97505488Nah, magic will never drop a storyline as kino as edge of eternities ever again
>>97505480The result: Nothing happens and in 2027 we have again 4 UB sets but this time only 2 UW sets. That's it.
>>97505488I thought it was funny how it was basically Catholics vs Protestants
>>97505518It was aggro control lol. I really only remember meloku and ribbons of night and counterspells. Damn i miss the simpler times.
>>97505522No, they have evidence the sets are underperforming and the suits use Universes Beyond as a "parachute" instead of changing the course of the company.They are legally required to do all they can to make the company profitable for investors.Legal matters aside this is a big blow to any credibility the company had, all trust is gone.>>97505529We'll see. I don't really care either way, I don't want anything to do with this game as is, the game is dead to me.
>>97505545>No, they have evidence the sets are underperformingYeah surely this is not because the sets are shit, but rather because they're UB, right? Aetherdrift sold so well.
>>97505013no, just a disgusting slop post
>>97505554That's the point, genius. The evidence is they are doing nothing to correct the course, I'm not talking about UB, I'm talking about regular magic sets, obviously.
>>97505568>I don't see how they can keep releasing Universes Beyond sets after this fiasco, the leaks are damningthis what you said lol
>>97499466>>97499475Elesh Whorn but fatStill would leave the mask on baby yeaaaa
>>97505522>"Ohhhh they're devaluing the brand" is literally a completely meaningless statement.No it isn't retard. Brands are a highly well-understood important part of modern capitalism and business. You can and will get sued by your investors and your own company for devaluing a brand and making it less respectable in the eyes of consumers. The lawsuit is completely and wholly legitimate as long as discovery can prove that it the alleged "parachute sets" were indeed done purposefully to off-set massive losses within other parts of the company and that the parachute set strategy is making the brand less respectable
>>97505697I find it highly doubtful they are intentionally torpedoing their own business rather then the simple obvious fact that the sets are worse because they have to make more of them with the same team and time- with in universe sets like Aetherdrift also suffering from this.
>>97505707It's not simply that they are making sets that are bad. It's that the rest of Hasbro is having massive failures and losses, and in order to shore those up and still seem like they're in good shape to their investors, they make parachute magic sets and then change around the balance sheet to obsfucate where money is gained and loss so that it looks like everything is fine. It's massive defrauding of investors if it's true.
>>97505707>sets are worse because they have to make more of them with the same team and timeThat’s the thing, though. They don’t have to. They’re the ones who set their new release schedule and thereby strained their resources. Why did they do that? So they could fit in more Universes Beyond releases.This isn’t the same thing as the schizo conspiracy theory that they’re trying to specifically sabotage in-universe sets so that people accept Universes Beyond, but rather that the cadence and focus of their set releases is resulting in the product being seen as less respectable.
>>97505726Well that seems like Hasbro's fault that their company is failing. How do you even fail when you have all those gigantic IPs like fucking MLP and Monopoly? What are they even doing to lose all that money?
>>97505726Oh, God, Universes Beyond finally makes sense. The rest of Hasbro has been about licensing other properties and making toys for them for as long as I can remember. Magic being the only profitable part of the company means that all the executives who were overseeing that in the toy departments are now focused on micromanaging Magic and are applying the only logic they knew.
>>97505762>Well that seems like Hasbro's fault that their company is failing.yeah retard, that's why the investors are angry
>>97505783What I don't understand is why Hasbro doesn't just shut off these unprofitable divisions, anon, instead of making these ridiculous trojan horse magic sets to obfuscate that it's losing money. Why not simply stop losing money?Why is WotC doing layoffs, specifically laying off the people who worked in fucking BG3, a spetacular success, when Hasbro could have shorn off any of the worthless money burning pits it's lugging around?
>>97505575Yes, because releasing UB sets is basically an admission the magic sets are tanking, that's the point.
>>97505808>What I don't understand is why Hasbro doesn't just shut off these unprofitable divisions, anon, instead of making these ridiculous trojan horse magic sets to obfuscateIt looks bad to investors to say that the My Little Pony Trading Card Game was a failure and to shut down the department responsible for it, so they just release a bad magic set and then put my little pony tcg and mtg in the same section of the balance sheet and talk about them as if they're equally important and profitable.
>>97505697>>97505707There's also the fact that they are implicitely admitting to manipulating the secondary market in the leaks.There's more than one lawsuit apparently and this secondary market manipulation means there will probably be others in the future, especially since discovery will probably reveal more dirt kek.
>>97505815I thought the whole point of investing in a company is that you give them your money and they multiply it for you without need for your input. If you're going to micromanage a company in this way why not just start your own? Isn't this constant need to look good to the shareholders actively preventing the company from making money to the shareholders?
>>97505831The high-up executives are just doing this so that they can bail comfortably when the ship sinks with no other motive
mauling Arena players with pauper elvesthey only turn this game mode on a couple times a year
>>97505808Trademarks must be used continuously to maintain registration and legal protection. Let’s say Monopoly gets really popular for some godforsaken reason in 15 years. Even if Hasbro hadn’t sold the intellectual property to anyone, they wouldn’t be able to assert their current trademarks unless they’d been publishing the game for the entire interim. Now, it may well be that Monopoly never gains popularity again, but abandoning the trademark would still be a pretty aggressive action, especially given how many nostalgia-driven trends we’ve seen in the last two decades. Figuring out what divisions should be shuttered and which should be kept on life support is basically reading tea leaves.On top of that, the Peter Principle is alive and well and has gotten even worse with C-suite executives now being shuffled between companies that bear no resemblance to each other. Your managers are making decisions based off of “business sense”, which means cutting costs where there are costs to cut and trying to maximize profit by division on a purely numerical basis. That hogwash a few years back about D&D being “undermonetized” was the result of spreadsheets showing that they were spending a lot of money on the periphery of the product without it translating directly into sales. These were the successful product lines, so it was offensive to the C-suites that they were wasting that money on non-billable inputs. As >>97505771 notes, they tried to squeeze Magic by applying toy licensing logic. R&D had long said that more than three planes per year strained their ability to figure out all the flavor, so the execs saw Universes Beyond as a way to increase set releases—and thereby sales—without having to occur additional costs from a team that they still aren’t sure needs to exist.
>They HAVE to make Magic worse for the sake of revenue you dont understand? Seven sets a year, most of them UB is all for the benefits this will deliver to Magic and is an acceptable practice?Which kind of cuck mentality leads to this train of thought?
>>97505545Hopeful, but it won't hold. Wizards can just point at Final Fantasy and LotR for any excuses the case could claim. They could say that people aren't buying the original sets because of spending on the UB, state that Magic exists as a game system, and point at the success of crossover brands as being more valuable than a more isolationist approach.
>>97504040If this ever costs $50 WotC will upshift it to Mythic and put it ina a masters set equivalent
>make the game play worse>players quit>produce way too much product>scalpers can't move it>collectors can't keep upok, what kind of 89Dimensional Hyperchess is WotC playing?
>>97506006That’s how CEOs think. Nobody said it was an acceptable practice, they just explained to you why it was happening.
>>97506072you're wasting your breath on these people, they'll never understand a thing.
>>97505762They’re a toy company and made enormous amounts of toys for woke slop from hollywood. https://youtu.be/EjVjhoNIJhE?si=R-ajXOrTnTYQyQYu
>>97506103I strive not to change the minds of fools, but to ensure that those capable of thought are not led astray by such foolishness going unchallenged.
>>97505480I can't think of any company in recent memory that has gotten successfully sued for this. Disney destroyed the Star Wars brand and it doesn't matter, because their parks and other ventures cover over the 4 billion dollar hole they created, nobody is going to sue them (and win). Every company balances their sheets this way.I am utterly baffled that anons are unironically thinking "I know what will save Magic, the influence of MORE jews!"
>Peter Parker owns Mtg merch>WotC didn't even bother to mention this 1 (one) link between the 2 franchises when they forced a retarded crossover set
>>97506266Can't prove malice in those cases, can in this.
>>97506266>Disney destroyed the Star Wars brand and it doesn't matter, because their parks and other ventures cover over the 4 billion dollar hole they createdIt doesn't matter that they destroyed Star Wars because it wasn't the thing holding them up. Hasbro killing Magic is like if Disney fucked up the parks. A lawsuit over hurting a brand is implied to be a lawsuit over hurting a brand [that actually matters to the company].and no im not saying that a lawsuit means anything or will do anything or is a good thing im just saying that the situations aren't the same
>>97506062>this anon gets aroused by knees>>97506303You think anyone still at WOTC besides Maro was there for the release of Invasion or this movie?
>>97506266Disney did go through several power struggles during that time though
We all know the lawsuit will go nowhere. It’s just nice to confirm what everyone has known for years. That Hasbro are retards using the MtG license to essentially print their own money. But just like the US government printing money is leads to inflation and devaluation of the existing money/cards. It’s nice for people like me who only buy singles though. Instead of buying the overpriced borderless shit I get the normal rare for a dollar or whatever the fuck and put it in my cube.
>>97506170> People who buy secret layers finance the creation of woke toysThat's a funny revelation. I hope the worst for hasbro
>>97505534I thought it was Catholics vs Evangelicals.
>>97504412The future is set in stone it can change the present as long as the possibility of the future is still possible.
>>97506451It was Kyubey + LessWrong Utilitarians vs. Evangelicals. The guys who believe super extra hard in the greater good and in fighting entropy to the point where they'd rather restore Sothera to the point where it would blow up, killing every lifeform in the system, so the energy it would release wouldn't be lost to entropy as a black hole, versus the guys who believe that because that paradise will come after our death and after the universe ends, and therefore we should all kill ourselves and/or make sure the universe ends as soon as possible.
>>97506554They also laser random passing ships because it is likely that their presence might distract them from an enemy maneuver that reduces their chance of victory fractionally. Losing would mean risking jeopardizing the future of all stars in the cosmos so it becomes morally imperative to erase them for the crime of maybe perhaps possibly distracting them.And then there's the Kav, who hate the trolley problem and kill anyone who so much as fucking dares to touch that lever.
>>97505390Adolf is black and his main strategy is cat oven
>>97504412>what if butterfly effect, but backwards! i can bet money that's how the premise came to be
>>97504412don't punish yourself, the stone doesn't make any fucking sense the moment you try to hold it to its own premise.
>>97505480>gen 5pic goes hard otherwise
>>97504412It works in exactly the same way as King Crimson in Jo Jo
>>97506864Here's the old classic just for you.Probably there's no one left in here who remembers the good old days of silver posting on /mmg/.
>>97506762It does though. It can rewrite the past as long as the revisions reach the same immediate present. It's pretty consistent in this; you even get to know exactly what revisions are being done, the story keeps a handy tracker.
>>97506964wew lad, 56 ounces of silber is a good stack these days
>>97507011I have 100. Some people in here have FAR more than me, we all used to post it and shittalk jews, jannies used to go on deletion sprees, half the thread would disappear kek.
>2021>old classicfucking cancerfags
How does Bello and Uncivil Unrest work together in general
New thread>>97507464>>97507464>>97507464
