Treefolk edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97497508>TQWhat creature type do you want more of?
What are you waiting for from TMNT?
>TQAngels but not niggers.
>>97507464>tqUnicorn
>>97507526this nigga, he's the best legendary artifact creature to reanimate since Graaz
>>97507526putting "Utrom" as the type is so fucking stupid, such a cool affinity card cursed to never get an in universe printingI'll still use that garbage though
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>TQ When we're done with this nauseating puritanical wave, I want a full un-set of cleavage shots with suggestive creature types.
print yourself some alt art bitches
>>97507526For it to crash and burn as hard as SpiderTrash
Man, if EoE had come out a few years ago I would have written so much Mass Effect crossover fanfiction of it.
>>97507526TMNT is fucking lame
It's a commander set. It has already more legendary creatures spoiled than in Lorwyn.
>last thread had actual color pie discussion about how nonwhite color pie breaks keep happening yet White gets nothing after a decade of kikety meddling >even without my pointing out this fact the eventual logical conclusion is that these breaks shouldn’t be happening Even in my absence, the truth remains glaringly obvious; kikes hate white
>>97508032There's only 1 pie I think about https://youtu.be/OjyZKfdwlng?si=wH7cGYfr557b63Lx&t=6
>>97508032>a decade
>>97507464Humans. Always and forever the most versatile creature type. Except on my next Lorwyn set which should definitely be next to complete the block.>>97507526A good uncommon.
Squenix is so fucking shit with the goldmine of an IP their sitting on a collab based on nostalgia managed to salvage a little bit of their sinking ship.
>>97508160A final fantasy 2/remastered/more secret lairs is just a matter of time. It's a parachute for Hasbro and Squeenix at this point.I'm replaying FF4 with the Namingway mod and goddamn what a brilliant game. How they can fuck up such an iconic and great series is beyond me. Bunch of goddamn fucking retards Hasbro and Squeenix.
How do you feel about AI slop besting JotC at their own lore?https://youtube.com/shorts/B72DnJJsjwk
>>97507526I shan't buy ItSimple as
Don't draft TMNT cardsDon't play TMNT cardsDon't but TMNT cards
>>97508160Grim
>>97507464>TQInsects, or at least pests. Even if Blex isn't in the main set, I'll still be happy if SoS has actual pest support outside commander. Unfortunately, the precon seems to suggest all the pest cards will only be for commander, as most critter tribal cards are.
>>97508619I might buy the pizza lands or other retarded food cards for my cube of shame. But from my LGS not WoTC.This fucker is right at home in the cube of shame. It’s just a hot dog stand. Not some magical artifact that lets you conjure creatures and spells. Apparently a hot dog is just as good as any magical talisman for summoning demons, angels, etc. just bizarre.I bet Startrek has earl grey tea and TMNT has a pizza delivery truck.
>>97508619Eh, it's better than Final Faggotry or Slopper Man. If I see something kino I'll consider it.
>>97507526skippa skippa
>>97508687>from my LGS not WoTC.i've got some news for you about where your lgs gets their cards
>>97508807Yes yes at some point they're from WoTC. Who is out here proxying Hot Dog Carts? They're 35 cents, I'm not paying at least twice that for a proxy.>Just print your own cardsPrinting isn't cheap and they'll look like shit.
>>97507530The age of white angels is over, chuddie.
>>97507761EoE wasn't even a year ago and I don't remember even one of these characters.
>>97508888Alpharael is literally Atreides from Dune, and I know you ain't forget about my nigga Tezzeret
My sister invited me to another sealed event with her colleagues. For some reason we built decks with 10 packs. I somehow managed to go 3-0 again in best-of-one. Took me a while do decide what I should run, I knew it would be Orzhov, but it took me a while to settle on splashing green for just 2 Wildvine Pummelers rather than including green ramp.Eirdu, Wildvine and Sun-Dappled Celebrant are absolute beasts if you can keep them on the battlefield. I managed to assemble a combo with Reaping Willow and Champion of the Weird after getting my board almost completely cleared by Sunderflock. I had to go down to 1 life with the blight ability just to clear my opponent's side of the board, but they didn't have any hasty elementals and Shimmercreep was able to drain him for just enough.
>>97508914>and I know you ain't forget about my nigga TezzeretI didn't but I forgot he was in the set.
>>97507581>Dies to Doom BladexD
>>97508047Ok boomer
>>97508881I despise every individual part of this artwork.
No other sorcery has this much aura
>>97509038I remember when they released Alara and people tried to piece together artwork cues to figure out Bolas was the real villain. It was pretty cool.
>>97509038>Every card is compared to it>Every player knows its name>So much aura, nobody has ever played itKNEEL
>>97508881>>97507530I want just one mono-green angel; also no changeling or shapeshifter shenanigans.
>>97509088This card is also in my cube of shame. The story goes they were going to print a different mythic rare but it was too OP after last minute testing. So they replaced it with that piece of shit. Next to all the shitty cards in my cube it’s okay though.
>>97507464>What creature type do you want more of?
>>97509297So why is Zurgo the same as in his Khan timeline now as if his entire lifetime in Dragon timeline had 0 impact?
Playing Master Duel is such a fucking blackpill dude. Like you're constantly reminded of how little fucks Konami gives with the translation having Engrish everywhere, yet still the game designers are competent enough to explicitly point out interactions in the tutorial like "You have a monster negate before 5 summons, this protects you from Nibiru," while WotC does garbage like shit out Badgermole Cub then say "Oopsie we forgot Llanowar Elves was in Foundations, that one set we said we were using to establish the core powerlevel of Standard."
>>97508032>>97508109When was the last format we had with powerful white cards? Was it "the deck" back in 1994 with Moat and Serra Angel?
>>97509359Only 2-3 years ago with original Ixalan when Stnadard was dominated by Venerated Loxodon white weeny and Modern was ruled by 5c humans which was a white deck splashin mulitcoloured spells like refelctor mage, meddling mage and Mantis rider (all white)
>>97509311He is noticeably a different person as shown by the fact he is an actual clan leader instead of a murderous psycho killing everyone who he doesn't like.Original Zurgo'$ horde literally deserted him because he charged into battles without any knowledge of the situation and killed his own soldiers for questioning. Now, because he had a different life that allowed him to see that being a rampaging berserker is usually bad for you, he became a better leader.
>>97509378This. You can even see this in the cards themselves. Dragonstorm Zurgo is a synergy piece for his faction mechanics and his spirit dragon, while orginal Zurgo has is just a hasted beater.
>>97509372There was mono white knights during dominaria
>>97509359Modern, like five minutes ago, with Boros Energy, which hinges on powerful white cards like wrath of the skies or guide of souls
>>97509322People are always posting how Magic makes less money than YGO in Japan where the numbers are actually published, but it's weird how nobody talks about how Master Duel makes over 10x what Arena and Online make combined despite being easy to use fully F2P without relying on constantly winning in draft.
>>97509478Yugioh in general is more famous then Magic among normies (the main audience of mobile games). The entirety of Universes Beyond is an attempt to patch this up.
>>97509322>>97509478if Edison was on master duel 24/7 I would not play anything else
>>97509478In YGO going second means you're playing a petdeck supported by Mulcharmies and boardbreakers.In Magic going second means you lost because your opponent is going to play a 1-drop that makes another body instantly.
>>97509552going second hasn't been this good in forever in yugioh funnily enoughdracotail has broken fimena and k9 has broken holy sue. Both decks can also run izunas just because
>>97508619They should have combined spider-man and TMNT into one set. Magic: The Gathering: Universes Beyond: Battle for New York City: Spiders vs. Turtles
>>97509654Going second in YGO has absolutely terrible for years, and it only started getting better as Konami printed massive boardbreakers and handtraps to help it.It's really more a signal how bad Magic is now when more decks will choose to go second in YGO than in Magic (although Magic has never really had a point in history where going second was beneficial)
>>97509685Brian Weissman says that going second is good in four horseman
>>97507761Why is Tezzeret a funky grandma here?
>>97508619voting with your wallet doesn't work
>>97509708It's the long hair.
>>97509552>go second in magic>opponent plays a creature t1 that also drops another body, and draws him a card>my turn, i dont have removl so i also play my busted 1 drop>t2, my opponent plays a creature that gives all his creatures +10/+10 AND drops another body onto the battlefield AND says creatures your opponent controls can't block this turn> dieEpic
Magic is so cooked is unreal man
>>97509940Cooked. Chopped. Sauteed. Brazed. Boiled. Broiled. Cooked into a pizza.
>>97509685>Magic has never really had a point in history where going second was beneficialuntrue, I remember people choosing to be on the draw in control mirrors back in like OG Innistrad
>>97509038I don't know what aura means. I'm too old.
>>97509038Sorceries can’t be auras. It’s an enchantment subtype.
>>97510197aura = swag = cool = moxie
>>97510247Aura is not swag.
>wanted to play showdown this weekend>china man doesnt have the elementals yetguess its another stay at home weekend
>>97508109Yes retard, since 2016
Arena took down Lorwyn limited and replaced it with Lorwyn Alchemy (which adds some custom cards).Normally I wouldn't bother with these Alchemy sets but I kind of want to draft this one because Lorwyn was an interesting format that just needed support for more of it's archetypes, which they could easily have fixed with this.
>>97509392>folds immediately and every time to Amulet TitanLmao with multikeker
>>97510381go ahead and post which white cards from 2016 you think are powerful lmao
>>97510170there also used to be plenty of Limited formats where you'd want to go second of you had a removal-heavy deck. although nowadays the best you can hope for is that first/second is only a 52/48 split instead of 55/45.
>>97509940You are still allowed to play REAL magic in a REAL format on a REAL clientIts your own fucking fault if you choose to put yourself through the unbridled humiliation ritual of attending an LGS in person and sitting down with a bunch of angry troons talking liberal politics while they play marvel characters on their star trek playmat. Probably take 5 minutes to set up their funko pops on the board pre-game.Magic isn't cooked, magic is more alive than ever and just got revitalized by a great new set being added to arena and its FUN
>>97510431your brain will be fucked for the rest of your life
>>97510197Imagine a 5 mana card being banned in a turn 3 formatOne people actually paid 5 mana for, without ramp or cheating, not "This town ain't big enough actually costs {1U}"
on a scale from 1 to 10, how fair is this combo?
>>97510470dies to literally everything / 10
>>97510441I haven't needed to interact with a single fleshbag marauder IRL for months nowDo you understand how liberating that is
>>97510388the alchemy reprints of some cards are strictly stronger and allowed in brawl, at least
is there any way I could have Duskmourn's Claim aka Parker Luck be the payoff for Mirrorform.decI mean is there any way I could actually kill my opponent on the end step or is it more likely to kill me first, if I'm making cheap tokensIt would be hilarious to put ~6 of those triggers on end step but I'm pretty sure I wind up dying before opponent if they were aggro and dealt any damage to me even if all my cards deal 4-6 damage and theirs deal 1-2, because I'll be at 6 life and they'll be at 16
>>97510581
>>97510409...It's 65/35.
>>97510610*In game 1 during BO3. This doesn't include BO1.
>>97510610>>97510615Where are you getting those numbers? On 17lands ECL has around a 52.5% win rate on the play for bo3 draft.
>>97510400Felidar combo with Saheeli (of course against a white card only being useful when it’s paired with red or blue kikery)
>got clickbaited by prof into a tranny money laundering scheme
>>97510634The man is doing everything but looking directly into the camera and saying "help me for gods sake, they're holding hostages", what did you expect?
>>97510633So not an actually powerful white card, got it.
>>97510595well not in standardI am trying to figure out how to use mirrorform and which color is bestIts funny how black control spells are actually worse than blue right now. If I wanted to leave behind permanents my choices would be uh, grim bauble, momentum breaker, nowhere to run, witch's vanity, tithing bladeHonestly they're worse than the 1-2 mana blue auras
>>97510624Oh you're using draft figures.
Every color got flying through dragons.This infringed on blue's color pie of getting fliers.Therefore blue needs Grief as compensation.
>>97510700??????
>>97507581Hell yeah this going straight into the kefka reanimator pile
>>97510749god I wish standard artifact reanimator was playable, but ever since portal rotated out nope>Tune up costs 4>Daretti costs 5 and opponent needs to answer him too>....>no good artifact payoffs in the entire format, just more ways to cheat shit out like planetarium / nexus of becoming>they even put darksteel colossus in the format even though its both totally fucking useless as a finisher now anyway AND has an anti-cheat clause so it doesn't work>closest thing to a finisher is just a 7/7 flying first strike lifelink that gets disabled by a shock killing its 1/1 pilot token
>>97510651It’s still been over a decade since actual powerful white cards have been in Standard. Baneslayer Angel was the only other case besides Lin-Sivvi.
lmao it works
>>97510791am i a joke to you?
>>97510388Lorwyn non alchemy is available till the 9th when they bring back omenpaths (wonder if it will still be pick 2 aids)
>>97510197Auras are enchantments that attach to a creature and usually buff it.
>>97510790Im using kefka and other draw discard to discard busted artifact/enchantment creatures and reanimating them later. Its fun as fuck in historic brawl.You get zombify in standard too but im not sure its good enough even still.
>>97509378>He is noticeably a different personNotoceably different orc*Please respect his creature types
>>97510791Nice 5/5 for 5 mana with some keyword soupFrench vanilla with no activated or triggered abilities
Will we get more Lesson synergy in Strixhaven and the Chamber of Secrets?
>>97509392>"Powerful" white cards which are totally useless outside of Boros shellFake White, as the whiteschizo would say
>>97507464This looks cool but im wondering if its better than the cruelty of gix… hmmm i dont think so.
>>97511062imaginejust fucking imagine
>>97511115>6 mana sorcery speed
>>97511142Right but im copying something retarded like an overlord or bahamut
>>97511115Cruelty of Gix is read ahead which means you always get the effect you need at the moment. It's also 1 mana less.
>>97511159>copying overlords put the card in the battlefield and wait. The benefits of overlords are minimal compared to any other reanimation target. Best target is probably Valgavoth at the moment.
>>97511185Its for commander i wouldnt dream of playing this jank in a real format
>>97511164I know i already play gix but i dont have any extra slots for reanimate spells and the next choice is zombify which im sure is wrong.
>>97511159>Copying something that's main benefit is entering and attackingJust use Zombify or Rite of the Moth.
>>97511192Well then it's even worse. In commander you can draw 2 cards and discard one or create two 2/1s with flying pretty fucking easy. The entire point of reanimator is to drop some crazy shit six whole turns ahead. Valgavoth, Etali, Atraxa, Archon of Cruelty, just some absolutely backbreaking tempo swing or a massively powerful unremovable juggernaut.
>>97511208>>97511211The tokens enter and stay and im playing grixis colors so i got good overlords. Im also not all in on reanimate and all my targets are artifact/enchantment creatures for something else. I dont play valgavoth or any random reanimate target they all have another specific purpose.
Maybe its better than coiling rebirth actually that may be a cut.
>>97511192I wouldn't dream of playing something so jank in commander
>>97511404What do you hate fun or something?
>>97511062I have to assume we will.
>TQCAWWWWWW CAWWWWWWW
>>97508860>Who is out here proxying Hot Dog Carts?Me.
Magic is more alive than ever
>>97511920>Piggies paying to enable other's mental illnessYou know what? I'm on WotC's side now, if these people have the money to spend on mutilating people's genitals they can afford 7 sets a year with Secret Lairs
>>97511920>Trans lifeline>Where fresh volunteers are thrown into the deep end to talk to suicidal and other basket case callers with basically no training>Where they don't call police for a welfare check if someone calls saying they're going to kill themselves.>Where I guarantee you the volunteers burn the fuck out immediatelyYes...that trans lifeline
>>97507464>TQ
>>97511920If magic is political, I'm out.
>>97511920that local jewslaves are not going to like this
>>97512052It's only political if you want it to be.For instance, I wasn't aware of the thing the posted. Well now I know. Thanks to him.
I attacked my opponent with 8x bloodthirsty championshow much life would I have gained if he hadn't been dead
>>97511920>>97511965>trans lifelineThat charity is an actual scam with calls never being answered because it employs 0 operators. All that money is pocketed by the owners to be used on travel, eating and other extraneous purchases. Some guy setup a bot to moniter how many calls connect and it was something like 10 total over several years. The owners have also provably used funds to travel to the homes of anyone who whistleblows on them to intimidate them irl.
How cum wizards only did da raceswappin wit lotr? Why wasn't doctor whom blackie?
>>97512187They were presumably asked to do so by the estate.
>>97509359True, this was the litmus test. Creatures should never be more powerful than this.
Creatures should never be more powerful than this.
>>97512126>That charity is an actual scammany such cases
Im trans and magic and its community saved my life.
Creatures should be marginally more powerful than this.
This is where we draw the line.
>>97512126Wow, somehow that's worse. At least volunteers aren't being harmed but somehow having a helpline that never answers is even worse. I assume someone would try calling and see if it ever connects.
>>97512126Haha this nigga calling tranny hotlines and seething on 4chan that no one wants to talk to xir.
>>97512361Only six effectsPathetic
>>97512361>VigilanceOn green? The fuck that's a usually white. 13.5% of vigilance creatures are green...I guess>DeathtouchUsually black but 21% of deathtouch are green I guess...>HasteI mean sure it used to be green, it's primarily red now>all that other textWhy? I feel like I'm reading a fucking novel.>4/4 for 4 CMCWUTIf this was a custom card I'd tell them they made a gigantic piece of shit. I bet one of the DEI hires was behind it.
>>97512334I actually prefer this over Baneslayer.
>>97512677Depends on the format. If demons and dragons are popular I'd run Baneslayer instead.
>>97512334Now every card is so super special and sparkly XD FIRE design has ruined magic.
>>97512361>keywordsSure.>weird intimidate effectI guess.>damage can't be prevented Why?>also randomly hoses Planeswalkers provided your opponent is already losingBut why?I imagine the original card was a pack filler rare, and then some genius decided to add a little je ne sais quoi to it. It's just bloat text for bloat text sake. Those last 2 effects probably came into play one of a thousand games.
>>97512697sex with them
>>97512953It was made when Tefri fog ran rampant so it was given those effects to deal with him. She was also shifted into legendary because they later realized that the Questing Beast was a unique character in the Arthurian legends.
>>97512969Yeah people forget about context for all these old cards. They really wanted people to stop playing fogs back then. Reclamation nexus was the most unfun competitive deck in Standard of the decade.
Eldraine was a great set. It started an upward trend after years of printing some of the worst sets ever.
>>97513000actually nevermind, Eldraine is older than I thought it wasn't until a couple years later where they started to figure shit out. just seemed like a turning point because it came out right after what might be the worst set of all time.god how was Eldraine fucking 7 years ago what happened to my life
>>97512126>That charity is an actual scamWow a suicide phoneline is a scam? In the year of our lord 2016 + 10? Who knew
Next UB set is NATO for 2027Gonna have vehicles that can only work with creature type, pilot.
>>97513000I loved Eldraine, I loved Eldraine 2 I would be very glad if instead of this shitty year we could have an Eldraine block.
>>97512966Which? You can only choose one
>>97513102Eldraine is probably the best setting they've made in the last decade but 2025 was the best year for MTG in that same time span.
>>97507464TQ-ScarecrowsAnyone got pdf’s of the lorwyn-morningtide-shadowmoor-eveningtide novels?
>>97509693Holy shit 4HM
>>97509216Wow imagine WotC pulling a card because they didn't have time to test a replacement and it was causing problems in testing!Good thing they removed that whole "testing" thing that was causing them to pull cards.
>>97513112Serra, of course
Just a threadly reminder that if TMNT is financially successful, then MTG is fucking done for.
>>97513346Thank God for that
>>97513346>is fucking done forLol, lmao even, you say that as if 7 sets 4 of which are UB isn’t fucking dead already
Yes, we have Serra's angels, but when are we getting Serra?
>>97513346nah we hit that defcon level with Spiderman and it bombing horrifically saved us from the worst timelineTurtles will bomb too I hope but even if it doesn't there is no chance it will be much of a success
>>97513346>is fucking done forMmmm, sweaty, i think we are already done for.
>>97513367reality fractureshe will be a fat negress with the most disgusting, tracking-problem-inducing planeswalker abilities of all time, and will be strong enough to singlehandedly rotate vintage
>>97513346>then MTG is fucking done for.I'm pretty sure the point of no return was the walking dead secret lair selling out back in 2020, everything after that has been a logical conclusion of that event
>>97513384>Theros Beyond Death>Ikoria>Zendikar Risingwoof. game is definitely in a better state now than it was in 2020
>>97513346You people do realize you can just stop playing game, buying cards (just use proxies) and dont check news about MTG, right?Thats what i did after Kamigawa.Nobody is forcing you to give Jews of the cost
>>97513403Yeah, back then everyone was freaking out about how they were breaking every format with each new Standard set. Now nobody plays enough to even care that every format is a dumpster fire.
>>97513403Yep, i really didnt know how much i would like to see this kind of cards in my Magic the Gathering... Oink, oink for the improvement of this game.
>>97513403>zendikar risingI still remember that set purely for how pushed rogues were as a deck. Som guy on the dev side sprinkled in cards meant for it across like 3 sets and then blew his load in ZNR. Its especially obvious with eldraine having really out of place mill synergy pieces.
>>97513377they release 7 sets per year now?hilarious.Lets try to predict 2027 WB garbage:WH40k, Transformers (to lure in oldfags) League of Legends (both ips are suffering) and imma gonna go with straight up Bible themed set (because its free IP to use)
>>97513447huh I remember Rogues were absolutely miserable to play against at some point but I wouldn't have guessed that set was why>>97513443lol have never seen that card. spiderman was gay and irrelevant, glad I skipped it.you probably should have done the same instead of letting it mindbreak you.
>>97513377>>97513449WWE, Jurassic Park, Digimon, Game of ThronesMuraganda set, Amonketh 2.0, Ikoria 2.0: Companions back.
>>97507464>What creature type do you want more of?Viashino.
>>97513569You're too late.
>>97513449Here are my predictions>Mario or Zelda>Adventure time>Sonic>Star wars>Age of sigmar or warhammer fantasy>Nier automata Secret Lair (censored of course)>Stellar blade secret lair (HEAVILY censored)
>>97513449>>97513632I have no idea what the rest will be, but I'm almost certain we're gonna get a Zelda set to coincide with the movie next year.
>>97513613I know. Thus, total MaRo death.
>>97513449They've said 7 is an outlier and they'll be going back to 6 for 2027. They don't usually lie about things like that because, well, they can't make a whole new set to fit in in the timeframe. I assume it's a scheduling issue because of some sets being unable to be moved too much (Star Trek for example, due to anniversary reasons).
Should I get back into magic, I say get back, but I was never really in, I bought a starter deck back in 2014(mardu something) and played with my friend, but he stopped playing, so I did as well, my lgs is actually pretty famous(or was) for mtg
>>97513767Sure, you can meet your next trans GF playing Magic the Gathering
>>97513767Magic is dead. Commander is very much alive and growing.
>>97513767Short answer: No.Long anwer: No, you can read this general or look at the upcoming products, ask the colective sentiment of the community (exception EDH crew) or investigate the last trend of decisions from JOTC, some with even legal consequences like recent sue to understand why
>>97513449Riftbound is rapidly growing near me. The chase cards already go for $100+I can't see them doing a crossover while trying to get it off the ground. Dota would be a better target, especially given that Gabe N is an old-school nerd and undoubtedly had a MTG phase.I'm really surprised we haven't gotten a Minecraft SLD or an NFL/NBA SLD, especially after TWD and Spongebob made the cut. Though I'm not sure they could get away with launching either as as full set. DC Comics is ripe for the picking and always sweating to compete with Marvel, though Marvel might've gotten some level of comic book crossover exclusivity since they've historically tried not to wind up cross-promoting with the rare exception of comic book runs dedicated to it. Star Wars and Game of Thrones are always looking for a chance to recover lost brand value, so we might see those (plus GoT's houses lend themselves to the mana system in that weak, braindead way the current design team seems to really enjoy.) I have no doubt we'll see a dedicated X-Men run, I'm actually surprised it's not being treated as an aftermath set for Marvel given how the movies are likely to develop. If they don't manage to get From Software in 2027 then they're beyond retarded, Legend of Zelda is easy money too. Warcraft's TCGs have all fallen flat, so there's probably something there as long as the rights aren't split up. If not, Starcraft seems inevitable after the sci-fi waters testing done with EoE and Star Trek. They've really gotta do something for the kids these days, though. And I have no idea how you do that unless you just straight-up go for TikTok or Twitch stars.. Uhhh... Maybe SCP? Fortnite un-set with a focus on crossover-ception? IDK
>>97513767>Should I get back into magicHard no. It is the worst game.
>>97513873This. Never seen the writing on the wall more clearly that something was on its way out. It's over the hump of its shark-jumping phase and I'd be surprised if it survived the next recession in any meaningful way. Arena will survive and the competitive circuit will limp on until the boomers give up but as far as any mass appeal or wider relevance goes, it's a game far past its prime surviving on the ether of other struggling IPs.
>>97511613
MORE VAMPIRES!!!
No, not WWE UB.AEW UB.Now that would be kino.
Olympic ski jumpers are out here injecting acid into their PPs to achieve peak performance, meanwhile WotC can't maintain even a single format.Embarrassing.
>>97511613>not the original Alliances versionsFake Crow Enjoyer
>>97507464>What creature type do you want more of?Equipment
>>97514415That's not an actual creature type it's an artifact type.
>>97513969First, they made that joke themselves. Second, a copy of a spell with X in its casting cost has X=0
>>97507526I hope it makes wotc and by extension hasbro lose a lot of money and for UB slop to disappear.
>>97508720Wrong. Final faggs was at least a bit inspired and had some flavor. Spiderslop its the same as turtle fags and has to be skipped for the future of the game
>>97513112>Baneslayer is younger, hotter and just plain better at sex in every way>but Serra Angel got that milfy christmas cake desperation energyHmm, a tough choice.
>>97507581This is the perfect card for my Doctor Who shartifact edh deck
>>97507761Tannuk is cute
>>97512227Um ya sorry but we will power creep those stats (in green black and red, not white) and we will erase the boobs.
>>97513382>>97513367We literally did dumbasses
>>97514484> serra angel that costs less and leaves a 2nd rectangle on the board. Now THATS what I call power creep
>>97513000Eldraine was the second set of the FIRE design team after War of The Spark. You are on the right track.
>>97507464>TQNaga, PLEASE!
>>97508160People will call this "le gran success!" and how this should be the direction of MtG forward but the reality is that FF is an outlier among IPs - a large franchise with massive cult following but nearly no real merchandise. FF x MtG sold because FFags had nothing else to buy.WoTC will be attempting to recreate this but will fail miserably because they will be picking either IPs with way too much shit already existing or IPs whose fans are old or dead.
>>97514524Honestly why is this the case? Don't japs love merchandise? FF has so much setpieces why aren't they selling Buster Swords and gunblades and Moogle plushes and Tina miniatures in droves?
>>97510197Aura is the natural and effortless cool factor, a flair, a presence.This about this old viral photo of Chinese homeless man. He's not trying to look cool or stylish, he's just a pissed off homeless. But his movement, facial expression and outfit make him look like a manga villain ready to fuck you up.
>>97514547According to my aura chart he is sad or unmotivated.
>>97514547So... presence?
>>97514587ackshually it's addiction
I'm unironically excited for this secret lair. I ran Curse of Strahd not too long ago and it was one of my favorite campaigns I've DM'd. Shart was my favorite character to romance. I literally killed Gale but carried around his hand the whole game so don't care much about his cards.When the secret lairs drop how likely are you to get one of them if you get a random place in queue?
>>97514630>When the secret lairs drop how likely are you to get one of them if you get a random place in queue?My guess would be 100%. ppl are still out of money and the player base hasnt recovered from the spiderman hype killer.
>>97512953>also randomly hoses Planeswalkers provided your opponent is already losingThat's the whole point. Questing Beast is a deeply misunderstood card that looks completely random at first glance. It was printed specifically to hose planeswalkers after WAR which OG Eldraine was right following. Everything about it makes it a nightmare for Planeswalkers. It can't get punked by any shitty little tokens they make, it has haste so it's immediately a threat planeswalkers cannot deal with that can still swing straight at the face for pressure, and it has deathtouch so even if a control deck has a big indestructible faggot on the board to defend them they still have to give it up to the beast to block. It's the kind of card that needs to exist for aggro after you put 30+ planeswalkers in a set.
>>97514656>My guess would be 100%. ppl are still out of money and the player base hasnt recovered from the spiderman hype killer.Good TMNT will hopefully do even worse. Bitcoin is...slightly down too so hopefully people are being more wary of stupid investments. I'm not investing I want a lot of the cards for my cube.
>>97514675sad news but TMNT actually has playable cards.
>>97514677Yeah dude, turtles forever amirite?
I find TMNT even worse then Spiderman because of the duo cards. literally the abstract ideal of UB slop, they couldn't even find enough memorable legendary creatures so they had to settle for every possible combination of main characters lmao
>>97514708I thing the Class cards are playable.
>Star Wars UB woudl be the only thing that could get my buddies to try mtg>we're gettign Star Trek, the shitty rip off nobody outisde of fat 50 year old Americans likes
>>97514734Disney is probably not going to let them get their hands on that IP. They're going to keep releasing doomed Star Wars card games that 3 people will post on /acg/ about until the stars go cold.
>>97514726every time i see viacom i have to google to see if they bought hasbro
>>97514716When they had three different aangs, kataras, zukos etc it really made me realise how small of a cast TLA had. They had tons of nameless soldiers, pirates, and others who could be interchangeable but the actual main cast was surprisingly small. Multiples of the same character feels lazy, and makes the worlds feel smaller, like they ran out of characters to use.With FF at least they had 15, or whatever they’re up to now, games to raid. It’s hard to fill out a magic set when it’s just one series or one game rather than a franchise.
>>97514740I'm still laughing at the ~10 faggots in my lgs who went balls deep on star wars. hell the owner loves the game but recently slashed his orders because star wars displays are bricks in his inventory.
>>97514740Final fantasy has its own card game and still got a set. If they made an mtg pokemon set both nintendo and hasbro would makr a bajillion dollars.
>>97514740star wars is goated and a multibillion dollar franchise with fans who always spend money on it
>>97514740Disney already let them make 1000 Marvel sets
>>97514768And they did in fact throw a bitchfit around even possibly competing with their own product with the whole Arena thing.
>>97514750The thing is that Squeenix was not clinging to that card game like its life depended on it. Meanwhile Disney has tried the idea of a Star Wars TCG like twelve times by now even though they universally fail miserably.
>>97514808Why do they fail? Star Wars is such a gigantic franchise.
>>97514818Precisely because of the product churn. Instead of sticking to one they keep passing the license around like a blunt, making more and so they directly compete with each other.
>>97514818>Star Wars is such a gigantic franchise.Was.
Star Wars would replace FF as best selling set therefore they will never do it.Same with Pokemon and Mario.
>>97514818Shit art and bad game design. A lot of card games focus entirely on the “Collectible” part and completely half ass everything else
>TQNon-were wolves and tribal support, give them a card that gives them Bands with Other Attackers or something>>97507583It's so weird that Nu-Magic suddenly pivoted from thinking there are too many subtypes and they need to cut the ones that might be offensive, to needing a subtype for literally everything to the point they split hairs on golem/robot and give every new race its own irrelevant subtype, even though they turned Cephalids into octopuses.
>>97514981In-universe creature types get cut to make space for UB creature types. Simple as.
>>97515007Sure, but they also made an alien subtype that should encompass more of these irrelevant groups than they're letting it.
>>97514981It's pure bitching by the license holders. They literally had to make Transformer cards "convert" instead of "transforming" because the execs thought it was somehow going to damage the brand
>>97514981>Non-were wolves and tribal support, give them a card that gives them Bands with Other Attackers or something???What kind of support would this actually be? It has absolutely nothing to do with wolves as a tribe and would be actively counterproductive to do. What kind of support is "your wolves can now all be collectively chumpblocked"?
>>97515043I mean taking out my Transformers and announcing each transform would be pretty funny in certain circumstances.
>>97515050It's really hilarious when people get up in arms about banding talking about how cool it was to attack on bands when you literally had no reason to ever band on the offense and it actively fucked you over. The only thing the mechanic was good for was blocking on a band, redirecting 20 damage to a single 1/1 while still killing the attacker and making board progress impossible for turn after turn after turn, but people don't feel nostalgic about that for some reason, wonder why.
>>97514947they spend 9 figures on each movie
>>97515050It's an effect for wolves to gang up on the attack so you can force the choice between taking all of the damage or losing their biggest blocker, a little dogpile sort of flavor, but I see how it's too little. It was the first idea that came to mind as something that could be relatively unique. it would make sense for Dogs to get W-anthem/lord effects, but wolves obviously have a more solid G-alignment so that group-power aspect would have to manifest in something like token generation or combat tricks (also we already have Immerwolf but that's werewolf support too).>>97515091I like the fantasy of my dudes teaming up to make one big force that's harder to deal with, fully recognizing that the existing rules to do so on defense are just different enough to be absolute cancer. Amass tried to do the same thing, but Army tokens they don't have the go-wide attacking or blocking power that the name would imply, so you get a 5/5 army of zombies chump-blocked by a saproling and have to imagine the combat being them all mindlessly attacking a single plant. I'd totally give Armies something like "can block a number of creatures equal to its toughness" and a hyper-menace "can only be blocked by X or more creatures where X is its power." Maybe give that to the wolves, "can't be blocked by a number of creatures less than the number of wolves you control."
>>97514992grok?
>>97515043It's not execs, but the law.The Transformers brand avoids using the word "transform" to describe mode-changing, because if they did, any other change-o-bot making company could argue in court that the Transformers brand name describes what they do, not what they are, and thus the name is generic enough to be fair use. It WOULD hurt the brand if any bumfuck toyline could call themselves Transformers without consequence.It's similar to how companies like Adobe and Lego have official statements describe how to properly refer to their products. You're not photoshopping something, you're using the Photoshop software to edit an image. They're not Legos, they're Lego bricks. These aren't the companies having their heads up their asses*, they're just protecting their brand from genericalization.*Adobe does that in other ways.
>>97515091>you literally had no reason to ever band on the offense and it actively fucked you overplayer A has a board full of benalish heroes and timber wolvesplayer B has a board full of tempest drakesetc.
>>97515273... they sacrifice one shrieking drake to block the entire band at once?
>>97515168>It's an effect for wolves to gang up on the attack so you can force the choice between taking all of the damage or losing their biggest blockerThe problem is that this choice doesn't really exist. The way that banding works is that when you block one creature in it all of them are blocked. You can block a band with 50 creatures with one singular 1/1.
>>97515291no idiot you make a bunch of bands of 2
>>97515304...so now each Tempest Drake can block two separate creatures, meaning they can kill two of your creatures for each one...? you're just... 2-for-1ing yourself a ton of times?
>>97515311do you even know how banding works?the controller of the band assigns all combat damageplayer A loses 4 1/1s for 4 2/2s if player B blocks all 4 bands
>>97515313I mean... sure? That sounds way worse and more complicated then just having a bunch of 1/1s with deathtouch attack
banding but fun coming through
>>97515320ok but that's not what this conversation was about
>>97515336the conversation is about whether or not attacking on a band is really useful. i say it's not. you needed to contrive a scenario where your opponent has the exact perfect boardstate to be fucked by banding creatures. in the vast majority of scenarios it won't really do you any good.
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>>97515380Oh that sounds like a really fun card.
>>97515380It's a shame nobody uses this for anything but blink shenenigans by blinking it repeatedly.
>>97515390I remember playing with it in Standard.
>>97515390Permanently turning a bunch of guys into one big guy is usually a pretty bad deal, making it temporary was a necessity.
>>97515355>the exact perfect boardstate>literally just fliers vs bandersyou clearly have not played with banding, at least in the context it was designed for (unpowered/mostly unpowered old school), or you just really suck and missed a lot of things that should be obviousbanding is way better on defense, but when you can't use it defensively (such as when your dinky little 1/1s are up against that rarely played keyword, flying) you absolutely get value out of using it offensivelye.g. vs phantom monstersavannah lions + samite healer = losesavannah lions + benalish hero = raceshould banding come back? nois banding fun? maybe like a little at mostbut anyway, saying that "you literally had no reason to ever band on the offense and it actively fucked you over" is just showing how teeny tiny your little pea brain is
>>97515420>banding is way better on defenseI obviously know this. Read >>97515091. It is very good on offense to the point of making the game ossify, which was the problem. They literally did make only offense-sided banding- enlist- and even in a limited environment it sucked absolute shit.
here's how I'd fix standardBanishing Winds 1UInstantReturn all nonland permanents with mana value 2 or less your opponents control to their owner's hands.fuck badgermole
>>97515425>I obviously know this....yeah, that's why i brought it up>Read >>97515091yeah that's the first post i replied to>They literally did make only offense-sided banding- enlist- and even in a limited environment it sucked absolute shit.1) enlist is a reference to banding, but it works differently. one guy is able to accept a bonus from anyone else, rather than one guy being able to give a bonus to anyone else2) the modern type of well-tuned limited environment is nothing like playing with an old school starter + some crappy cards from boostersyou clearly have not played extensively with banding and just took all your opinions from a youtube video or an article or whatever
here's how I'd fix MTGdecouple EDH from it and make it completely separate product
>>97515445honestly would this really fix anything? It wouldn't un-earthbend the land, they can just drop the badgermoles again can't they
>>97515452Wizards has listened to your valuable feedback and is now producing a new online client for EDH that will exist separately to Magic ArenaAnd overlap with 90% of the same card poolAnd require you to buy entirely new pool of cards to play EDH, so you can't grandfather in your worthless MTGA cardsBut don't worry they'll offer some great package deals on prebuilt commander decks with 10 wildcards included in the package for just $29.99 USD to get you started :----DIts going to be FREE TO PLAY edh online
>>97515454Bounce spells send earthbend lands back to hand, its only got a shield against going to the graveyard or exile.Honestly fuck wizards for inventing new forms of anti-interaction so you can't even exile shit anymore
>>97515465isn't the monkey's paw supposed to come with some sort of downside? why should i care if edhfags get shafted?
>>97515470An animated land is still a land, anon. Your card says "nonland pemanents"
>>97515445Standard is already fixed, they printed a better version of that card.
>>97514734>rip offStar Trek premiered in 1966.Star Wars was released 1977.
>>97515483ok and what scifi thing released in 1988 and 1999? i can't be left hanging like this
>>97515490i don't understand what you asking or refering to
>>97515479how are you casting that on turn 2?
>>9751549466->77->88->99it already could barely be considered funny at all but having to explain it makes the comedy potential quite grim
>>97515490>>97515494oh sorry i was retarded. the 11 year gap thing. i'm a dunce. The phantom menace just so happens to be 1999
>>97515490Akira in 1988. Matrix in 1999.
Dark Crystal 1982. Shadowmoor 2008.
>>97515509You don't need to, badgermole only ramps up shit on the board. If you bounce all their creatures then ouroboroid gets reset.
>>97515527them: turn 1 simic land llanowar elvesyou: turn 1 cavern of souls on elementalthem: turn 2 simic land badgermole, leyline weaveryou: turn 2 cavern of souls on elemental, ashlingthem: turn 3 simic land, badgermole, craterhoof behemoth
>>97515551>woah what if they draw the nuts and you don't do shit???Actually my t1 was izzet land, shoot the elves.
Mono blue no splash build seems best, 3 mana overlord is lethal enough even in some bad board states like "39 life + lifelink flying blocker"he'd wind up at -5 life here
>>97515413I love these kinds of effects
>>97515630Standard a few years ago was a blast
>>97515633The thing I don't like about Snow is that it just reads "play basic lands" which kinda goes against the spirit of it i guess.
>>97515519>wotc making a whole setting based on a good fantasy movie from the 80sDamn I hate that we went from kino references&inspiration to hat sets.
>>97515688dimir control was basically 8 islands, 8 swamps, 4 tapped duals and 4 faceless havens. You could run a tap 'choose color' land but Kaldheim wasn't a slow enough format for 8 tapped landsBut hey at least we had a manalith
I want a standard based around Atog+fling. They need to unban atog from pauper too.
>>97515740God no. Affinity is already cancerous enough.
>>97515718Duskmourn and EoE deserved blocks, the settings are wasted as one offs
>>97512227>the strongest white creaturev.>the weakest black creatureWhite creatures were always weak.
>>97515744ban all the rest of affinity's shit instead
>>97515758Duskmourn I don't think so, the setting is fine as an one-off. It doesn't have much space. Blocks are supposed to accompany the slower changes to a setting and Duskmourn doesn't have much space for gradual change. The plotline worked fine for a setting as limited as it; go in, get what you want, leave.EoE I sort of agree but I think the plot we got was really good and it wouldn't really work if we stretched it over for two sets, and I wouldn't want to lose it. Maybe a set about Sothera and another with the Wurmwall.
>>97512033I was disappointed by how little we saw of Noggles in Lorwyn Eclipse. I expected them to be a bit more fleshed out but we had like 3 mentions of them in the whole set.
>>97515761literally a 13/13 flying for 6 mana in a format where people thought a 4/5 that gives your opponent evasion as a drawback was a good creatureand it DOESN'T DIE TO REMOVALhow fucked up is that
>>97512361Always bothered me that it isn't called THE Questing Beast. That would actually make it sound like a legendary.
>>97515771Duskmourn is a horror movie, there’s always room for a sequel/prequel. It would’ve been great to have the slow corruption and cultists in the first block as suspense builds and the 2nd set is when all hell breaks loose and we get the survivors last stand
>>97512227Wrong. Creatures should always be competitive with all other card types.
>>97515807I believe it's a proper name.
>>97515799oh yeah?checkmate, bozo
>>97515809I feel that loses the appeal of Duskmourn for me, which is that it's a world where evil has already won. If we cut away that and do the pre-Valgavoth-has-taken-over status quo first it becomes much more generic, it's basically an 80s magitek plane Shadows over Innistrad/Eldritch Moon but Emrakul takes over the plane, I guess.I like Duskmourn as it is, barring a few changes like making the survivors dirtier and grimier and more wounded in general.
>>97515825Dies to- ACK OH GOOOD
>>97515830Like, it's like a post-apocalyptic story for me. Valgavoth has won, it consumed the plane and the survivors can only scramble around its kingdom struggling to survive. You don't really add much to, say, Fallout as a narrative if you make the first half of the game be living in the mundane non-post-apocalyptic-world waiting for the tensions of the Cold War to inflame and the world to perish in nuclear fire. It just hurts the post-apocalyptic story.
>>97514547> homeless:(> homeless, Japan:O
>>97514758
>>97515103And those movies are dogshit now
>>97515825
XUsorceryreturn all creatures with mana cost X+1 or less to their owner's hands
>>97512227>>97515761>>97515799>>97515825>>97515847>>97515877Blue is still the strongest color.
>>97515881Blue never was the strongest color
>>97515881>4/4 flying for 5>5/6 flying for 6dies to terror lmaobodied by nightmare on curve lmao
>>97515870I liked the first one honestly. looked like it was going somewhere.
>>97515877nice try
>>97515850I mean sure, you don’t have to focus entirely on the pre-Valgavoth plane, it can still be a darker horror themed plane but show the rise of Valgavoth’s power and influence as normal people become corrupted and the house grew to overtake the plane. Otherwise you forget it was a normal plane to begin with, I felt like that is why people shit on Duskmourn as just being a Stranger Things ripoff when it’s completely different.
Is she coming back?
>>97515877>Drain Life deals X damage to any target. You gain life equal to the damage dealt, but not more life than the player's life total before the damage was dealt, the planeswalker's loyalty before the damage was dealt, or the creature's toughness.I cast drain life x=4 targeting Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker who animated himself into a 4/4 dragon with flying, indestructible and haste. He has 2 loyalty.Do I gain 2 life or do I gain 4 life?
>>97515915Probably leads up to reality fracture shit, she'll be B aligned now or something like that.
>>97515909I feel that starting with a "normal" plane and ramping up to make it current Duskmourn is going to make it feel more like Stranger Things, not less. I'm just not really that interested in "80s themed magitek plane" all that much while the infinite haunted house setting does interest me. I enjoy just going into a setting where the villain already won, I think that's actually one of the things that makes Duskmourn special. Kind of like how Matrix starts outright with the world taken over by machines.>>97515928She just looks like normal Jeska so I don't think that's the case. Didn't she die by tossing herself into a time rift to close it?
>>97515919he's not a planeswalker while he's animated
>>97515915I feel that's just a Jeska's Will reprint but it IS weird to have it front and center Jeska doesn't feature at all.
>>97515935well okay its targeting Gideon Ally of Zendikarand I have a leyline of punishmentGideon is a 5/5 Creature Planeswalker - Human Soldier Ally Gideon with indestructible and has 2 loyalty because I hit him with a lightning strike last turn.Now I hit him with x=5 drain life while he's attackingDo I gain 5 life or 2 life
>>97515915Yes. But as a 4c commander.
>>97515963>Now I hit him with x=5 drain life while he's attackingdrain life is a sorcery:^)
>>97515915they still haven't brought back azusa so nothey want to make more donut steele oc's and shitty ub interpretations (captain america is red, white and blue get it???? xD)
>>97516005he also doesn't spawn a 1cmc shield artifact that returns to hand after pinging for 1-2 damage as should be the interpretation of him being blue and red (+a little white with the token spawn), so they really, really suck at their jobs and cannot be underestimated
>>97515963>If damage that can't be prevented is dealt to Gideon after his first ability has resolved, that damage will have all applicable results: specifically, the damage is marked on Gideon (since he's a creature) and that damage causes that many loyalty counters to be removed from him (since he's a planeswalker). Even though he has indestructible, if Gideon has no loyalty counters on him, he's put into his owner's graveyard.(2015-08-25)So you will gain 5 life because 5 life was marked on the creature. 2 loyalty counters will be removed and he will die.
>>97516008That's the laziest possible way to interpret Captain America
>>97516008sorry for triple posting but before anyone gets anal about it, i guess i meant a 1 generic mana cost kicker or activated ability to generate the token which of course would be 0 cmci guess he could also just tutor his shield out of the deck and it could do the rest, whatever, you get the point. wotc's current design is bafflingly stupid.
>>97516012except the effect said>You gain life equal to the damage dealt, but not more life than the player's life total before the damage was dealt, the planeswalker's loyalty before the damage was dealt, or the creature's toughness.5 is more than the planeswalker's loyalty before the damage was dealt
>>97516018come on anon i was barely trying with that bait
>>97516029This is an actually much better design then what you suggested. He unattaches Equipments to deal damage and then they attach right back. You get the reference AND it's an unique design that isn't necessarily restricted to doing this one thing. It's a story told through mechanics. If he just created a shield token or tutored a shield that does the things it would be a vastly weaker design overall.
>>97516041It's the exact same as what I suggested, except it deals CMC damage, retard.
>>97516041Like this card. It makes the opponent discard their hand and draw a new one or take damage equal to their hand. This is because this guy cut off the Doctor's hand and then he grew a new one. If it said "destroy target card named The Doctor's Hand" it would be an obviously much more retarded design
>>97516041>that isn't necessarily restricted to doing this one thing>it's the only text on the cardyou're baiting>>97516054>>97516065oh nevermind you're just retarded
>>97516061No it really isn't. Making it spawn the token would be a much worse design. It would make it both payoff and enabler. As it stands it's an Equipment synergy card (because he's famous for using an Equipment) but he doesn't wipe your ass. You need to enable him in the first place by playing equipments and then unattaching them.
>>97516029Throw should tap and Catch should untap him. But JotC knows how to sell a 3cmc 4/4 with infinite burn potential :)
>>97516080>infinite ??????
>>97516066If this card tutored another, he wouldn't do anything with other cards. He would be the Captain America's Shield commander. As it stands, he is an Equipment commander with a variety of uses like Voltron, cheating equipment costs, etc. It's pretty simple.
>>97516077So what you actually meant with that chatGPT wanna be bullshit about "storytelling" is that he doesn't fit into the current meta because he doesn't enable his own payoff. Yeah, real genius bar you've set. Definitely a "story told through mechanics" because he doesn't spawn the token, you have to have played a Captain America shield (or whatever mythic rare artifact slop you run) in your Captain America deck. The rest functions the same, but it's a whole different beast because he doesn't spawn the token. So what you really meant when you said that was "the laziest possible interpretation of Captain America" is that "everything is right except he shouldn't spawn his own token." Peak midwit "ackshually" posting. Go back.
>>97515384This type of card is very rare nowadays and it's a shame. A card that said brew something, even if it wasn't going to turn out great. All sets have a lots of legends and signposts to support limited so there is no much room left for out of the field cards.
Oh my god, you're right, this genius change unveils a new paradigm for card players everywhere! Now the narrative comes together! WotC is brilliant!
>>97516106>everything is right except he shouldn't spawn his own tokenYes? Pretty much. Do you think that Urza High Lord Artificer should also put 10 clues on the board so you can have all the mana without even needing to play artifacts? Do you think Omnath should tutor four lands and put them in the board so it can activate its ability for you for free? Is that a good design for you?
>>97516121Man even the examples you tailor made to strawman are transparent stretches. You saw a trivial difference and decided it was no longer the laziest possible way to design him but actually the pinnacle of WotC storytelling-by-design brilliance. Fuck off with the false equivalence, midwit. >Captain America throwing Genji Gloves is actually why this design is PEAK
>>97516137>>Captain America throwing Genji Gloves is actually why this design is PEAKLiterally what is the problem with this. He throws an Equipment to deal damage and then grabs it again. Simple yet effective. You get the reference and it does things that work with other cards instead of simply being its own circlejerk engine. What actually is added to the card by restricting it specifically to this one other card or making it wipe its ass for you by making a token?
>>97516155Is your idea of good design if Retriever specifically said "untap target creature named Chakram Slinger?" if it worked with this ONE card and did nothing else? Is Yugioh your design goal for Magic?
>>97516155Nothing is made better either way, you idiot. The point is that it's still a lazy design because it differs only trivially and only to enable flavorless fling slop.
>>97516168You've invented something to argue against because you lost the plot, which is that you called this design lazy just ten minutes ago and then said it was genius storytelling in design because it lets you fling a Sword of Feast and Famine.
If you read Captain America: Birth of a Nation issue #69 you’ll see that he created his shield out of his own flesh and throws it at people. That’s the narrative Magic needs to get right
>>97515915Jeska? But she died in Future Sight...Oh, it is going to be another Ertai situation... Damn wotc is in need of a purge.
>>97516219But Gideon and Tibalt are totally dead for real. Robbery.
>>97516179I said it was lazy because making a token to do the stuff or tutoring a specific card are both some of the laziest fucking possible designs this game can have. Not specifically because of dealing damage based on CMC.
>>97516169>a card needing zero setup and doing everything by itself is totally cool and flavorful guys>urza should also tutor his sylex and his glasses and all Urza's lands btw
>>97516230Gideon should stay dead. As with Jeska, honestly. Having someone heroically sacrifice themselves means nothing if they don't stay dead.
>>97516219Her brother died before her as well. Doesn't mean she can't get card.
>>97514422>Second, a copy of a spell with X in its casting cost has X=0That's not true though.
>>97516298Gideon died for being a chad.Same reason they never touched Garruk again
>>97516301>Centuries ago, a barbarian laid his rage to rest.>See other Legendary Sorceries in Dominaria set and understand that the cards depict things that happeded in the past>See Strixhaven box where it clearly show a character (planeswalker/creature) art in anime styleThose are not the same thing.Last time we got an old character in a box art of a set not in the past it was braids and she was somehow still alive.
>>97516343Garruk literally is coming back in reality fracture
>>97516387Braids didn't die, she just got trapped in her own Nightmare pocket dimension. Her coming back having become a Nightmare herself is plausible. Jeska fucking died, no ifs no buts, she even got to get walked into the afterlife by her brother, got all the pomp and fanfare just like Gideon.
Ok but what about the comic Gideon.
>>97516421I don't think anyone but the fandom editors reads the comics. There's not even lorefag stuff to do there since they were all declared noncanon.
Does anyone happen to know what the average cost of a RCQ lanyard + pin prize set costs an LGS to run? I can’t find a distributor price for purchasing the prize kits
https://mtg.fandom.com/Speaking of fandom editors. Wasn't this the main wiki? It's not been updated in a year.
rate idea for cardLandEnters untappedTap for green mana4 mana + tap: Create a 2/2 creature with haste or else put 2x +1/+1 counters on one of these creatures and fuck you opponentAlso this land can protect copies of itself from demolition field and trying to blow it up not only gives me this land back but a free basic land toowow so fun to play control nowadays isnt it
>>97516552They moved to the scryfall wiki a couple of months ago.
>>97516552https://mtg.wiki/Like anon said they moved to a wiki hosted by scryfall. It resembles the old mtgsalvation wiki more than the fandom abomination.
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>>97516390Gay spiderverse Garruk wearing the chain vail (female clothing) is coming
>>97516617Damn you can't even have demolish in standard these days? This world is so fucked up.
What color will Klingons be in the UB? I'm thinking most are red, maybe boros for some, but if they include this character xhe will be pink.
>>97517227Every time i think about Star Trek or TMNT i curse Hasbro and JOTC.
>>97516298>Gideon should stay dead. As with Jeska, honestly. Having someone heroically sacrifice themselves means nothing if they don't stay dead.Anon never heard about DC and Marvel Comics.
>>97517227>RedCertainly, they're basically Star Trek Orcs but honorable>WhiteThey should be white. It's the color of honor and law. But the federation will probably be white>BlackThey'll probably be black/red. I don't think black fits them very well but they were villains for a lot of the series and black now just means "the villains">GreenNo, they won't be green>BlueDefinetly notI'm guess black/red but worf will be white/red
>>97517227Boros makes the most sense, though I could see Mardu.
>>97515852He's Chinese you racist.
>>97515915She's in the style of the bonus sheet so no.
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>>97517499didn't ask
>>97517602It's not for you but for archival purposes.
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