>>97505262
>What is the one card you used to own that you would most like to have back?
Probably my credit card.

>>97505281
pay your bills and maybe somebody will offer you one again

>>97505262
I used to trade cards with my friends and lot, but back when we were playing the Highlander tcg, I got a character card that I was really excited to use, a celtic lady whose name I won't attempt to spell. My best friend at the time basically bullied me into trading him the card because he had celtic ancestry, and I ended up with Nakano, who wasn't that great, and whose playstyle I didn't find very appealing. In the end, There can be only ONE! he barely ended up using that character, and I barely ever traded with friends after that.

>>97505262
>What is the one card you used to own that you would most like to have back?
My v-card.

>>97505391
>The card the childhood bully stole from you

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>>97505438

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>>97505438
There are many different Decks and Booster Packs available to play and collect:
https://www.thegamecrafter.com/games/elemental-puzzle-tcg-burning-future-booster-pack

>>97505438
damn you have some crazy skills from drawing good to creating rules, i'm impressed

>>97499998

>>97505516
Thanks anon, we're down to the final minutes of the first poll.

>>97505457
>>97505438
That website looks sweet. What's the process of working with them?

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chances gundam tcg comes out in another language (but english and japanese) or is it too late (we're already at core set number 3 and csn4 is right at the corner)?

First poll is closed, second poll is up:
https://poal.me/tl30m2

In an upset Creature Battler won the first poll, with Wizard Duel coming in second. Now let's run the finals!

For discussion this time:
What should be decided next?
Resource mechanic? Card Draw? Special cards (e.g. Leaders)?

>>97506012
>What should be decided next?
>Resource mechanic? Card Draw? Special cards (e.g. Leaders)?
should we wait till second poll is done? we can take our time cannt we?

>>97506017
With each decision taking 3 days, I don't want to run a poll on what poll should be run next. Plus, there's not really anything to discuss on this poll, so I'd like to give anons something to talk about.

>>97506028
ok sorry you're right,

>>97506112
I meant what should the subject of the next poll rather than discussing what resource mechanic we should use.

oh my god can you shut the fuck up about polls already

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>>97505503
Thank you, there are different styles of creatures like these

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>>97506148
No.

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>>97506155

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>>97505503

>>97506123
>meant what should the subject of the next poll
oh sorry, well I don't know, sorry

>>97506123
the next poll should be about card text. (using key words or/and symbols or writing every thing like Yu-Gi-Oh, or text with some words highlights)

>>97506234
I think we should figure out the fundamentals before arguing over the details.

>>97506269
ok, what are the fundamentals? (because I have no idea,)

>>97503862
This set should be reprinted to the ground just to fuck scalpers. If Bandai doesn't have enough printers, it should keep reprinting this set until the market is saturated with it.
Yes, I know this won't happen

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>>97505778
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>>97506283
Resource systems, draw mechanics, combat systems that sort of thing. The kind of mechanics that define the game.

>>97506012
I am beginning to wonder if instead of core mechanics it might be better to talk about the game's "gimmicks" first, as those should probably inform the core rules. After all, we can't settle on something like Digimon's Draw on digivolve if the game didn't have digivolving as its gimmick.

>>97506389
it's hard to do because some rules are linked together, so we must explain the main rules and the specific rules

>>97506472
and develop them hand in hand* (forgot to add)

>>97506472
That's why I think the order in which we decide things is important. What we decide for our first mechanic will influence the voting on the next. Hence why I wanted to have this discussion, rather than arbitrarily deciding we pick resource systems first.

>>97505931
for any reason in particular?

>>97506516
I want it in french possibly...

>>97506516
>>97506523
and may be less expensive (I hope so)* (forgot to add)

>>97506389
>>97506497
resource mechanic isn't that important. thats for balancing. some games never even bother. push it down the list.

im o order of priority should be:
1) goal of game / how do you win
2) large structure. rounds, turns, phases, etc. how does it flow.
3) small structure. what can you do in a turn. what refreshes. how much can you draw. are actions capped. all that horseshit
4) basic card templates + vanilla units
5) then resource system and details

>>97506497
>>97506472
>>97506389
>>97506581
I think we should settle on a theme before everything else. While bottom up design can lead to balancing issues (or is this top down? I can never remember), when you're creating a game it informs pretty much everything else about it. What the resources should be / what the creature should be / what the card should do / how you should win / pretty much everything else is informed by what the game is actually meant to represent. It's much harder to design mechanics in a vacuum and then create a theme around them, and conversely in every major game the gameplay is designed around the premise.

>>97506581
>some games never even bother
Assuming this is who I think it is, you're making me want to put resource system first.

>>97506619
This is a very good point. I'll probably go with theme for the next step.

>What the resources should be
My idea was more how the resources, etc. should work rather than what they should be, but I think the rest of your point still stands.

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>>97506619
here's my pitch:
BIG NUMBERS FIGHTING TO DESTROY THE ENNEMY!
チャンピオン、100万度の敵を殲滅せよ、勝利!!!!

>>97506731
This sounds like a nightmare to implement but the part of me that loves Disgaea and Tatsunoko vs Capcom wants to see some insane numbers.

>>97506894
IT would actually be super easy to implement. If we put a subscript 10 before the power number, then it becomes an exponent. You then have powers ranging from 10 to 100, in increments of 5. That gives you 20 numbers to work with and power scores that range from 10,000,000,000 to 1 googol.

>>97506373
I love how easy it is to get a game thrown together on TGC, but their profit margins on randomized product are straight wack. I still have The Condemned listed on there, even though I have zero expectations of ever making another sale there. I set my MSRP for my boosters at $5, which is appropriate in my opinion. TGC won't let me list them for less than $7, and I get $0.16 of that sale.

If you get sales going, I'm happy for you, but don't hold your breath. Speaking from experience. Please don't assume I'm shitting on you for the lulz, I really want you to succeed. I just don't see TGC as the way to make money that you think it might be.

Your art is sick, btw...

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>>97506894
>wants to see some insane numbers.
I also like big numbers, that's why I want to see a card game with attacks of 100 000 to 900 000 range power

>>97506992
I respected that about ScoreZ. It kept the absurd numbers of DBZ but still made it somewhat manageable. That was nice.

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>>97507006
you mean this? those numbers are crazy

>>97506979
>TGC won't let me list them for less than $7, and I get $0.16 of that sale.
That IS wack.

>>97507047
They are, but it still feels right for DBZ.

>>97507052
Yeah. It's great for prototyping and getting your feet, but you pretty much have to work with the Chinese to make anything remotely profitable. I'd rather work with an American company, but it's simply not financially feasible.

>>97507180
Aren't there some good EU companies?

>>97507214
The only one I know is Carta Mundi, which is too big to give the time of day to an indie. Their MOQ is too high for most indie devs starting out.

If there are others, I'd love to know more.

>>97507369
It's easy to find stuff like Ludo or MCG, but Idk how good any of them are. What are the Chinese like?

>>97507498
>What are the Chinese like?
Well, their eyes are slanted, which is a bit off-putting at first, but they make really good food.

Fusion World set 9 is going to be scalped to hell

>>97507536
Oh, you...

>>97507498
Doing business with the Chinese is a lot like doing the business with the Ferengi. You're going to get exactly what you ask for. If it's not on the contract, you're not getting it. They're also really, really interested in getting your business. They will be very quick to help you with design the packaging, get you samples of their work, and they will handle arranging the logistics to ship it to you.

The main concern that you need to be worried about is whether or not the factory is going to rip off your product and sell bootlegs. The manufacturer I went with has a Factory and Merchandise Authorization (FAMA) from Disney. Basically, this is a certificate from the mouse that allows them to make Disney related merchandise. Nobody fucks with the mouse. That's the entire reason why I went with this particular manufacturer.

>>97505931
I would be doubtful. I don't think they've added any languages to their other tcgs after they release them. Seen some sad stories about having to deal with a tcg not in your own langauge though so I feel for you anon

>>97507536
But the slanted eyes make my dick hard.

>>97507587
You can't say that and not drop the company's name.

>>97506012
Poll is neck and neck. Remember to vote!

>>97506629
>Assuming this is who I think it is,
a keyforge enjoyer?
you can't design a resource system until you know what it is you're trying to restrict. which won't be obvious until you have enough of the bones to play it. if you try to front load you'll have a resource system just for the sake of having one.

>>97507863
>a keyforge enjoyer?
No, the one retard who used to post here a lot and doesn't understand what a resource system is. Hell, Keyforge arguably has one in its houses. Though its literally the only game that might its arguable doesn't.

>>97507863
>if you try to front load you'll have a resource system just for the sake of having one.
I should have finished reading the post. It is you.

>>97507832
I worked with Shenzhen Lianxin Printing Company, SZPC. Their website is sketch as hell: https://szplayingcards.en.alibaba.com

I also looked into WJPC, which several other indie devs have used. The product quality was fine, but the sales rep was way too pushy for my tastes and they sent me bootleg pokemon cards with genshin hentai on them. Not exactly the best look when doing business, no?

>>97508062
>they sent me bootleg pokemon cards with genshin hentai on them
Would work on me désu.

>>97507849
I have no stake in this because I wanted to do a fighting game, try to talk me into voting for your favourite game type

>>97508098
My first choice was eliminated too. I'm just trying to keep attention on the poll so everyone gets a chance to vote.

>>97508087
Oh, don't get me wrong. I thought it was hilarious. I also thought it was inappropriate for a professional business that's looking to prove their legitimacy and that they aren't going to take my IP and make bootlegs of it.

>>97508231
Show us the cards. Also I'm so desperate I'd be fine with getting bootlegs if it means more exposure.

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Watching Duel Masters Pandora Wars pack opening stream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gG25J5JnCM)
Duelists have secret arts.
This set is too fucking cool. I want to collect it all.

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>>97509452
>https://dm.takaratomy.co.jp/product/dm25ex4/
God damn. Why is every silver treasure in this set just the coolest card ever?
My wallet won't be able to take it.

>>97506012
Still a tie! Make sure you get your vote in before the poll closes.

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Went 3-1 with Carrot at my locals yesterday, best result with the deck so far.
Pretty happy with my list so far.

>>97509712
did you draw 'we are One' cards yourself?

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>>97509729
Nah, those are just some special cards they printed referencing some of the anime OPs over the years.

>>97507791
thanks anon, I think you're right. better play on simulator and buy starter decks in english. it's just the price is a bit expensive

>>97509452
Very glad I POd a box already.

>>97507892
ok, sure, it's me. still not sure what post you're trying to tie it back to since this is the first time we've talked about resource systems, but w/e

>>97507889
>keyforge houses is a resource system
ok well by that definition I guess anything is a resource system, definitions are meaningless and its impossible to talk about anything.

>>97507889
>Though its literally the only game that might its arguable doesn't
YGO is right fucking there.
>inb4 "le cards are le resources"
You know full well that's a retarded fucking argument because it's universally true for every card game and consequently not something you bring up when you're clearly talking about something else.

>>97509712
Why do you play only three 8C Carrots? Isn't that the best card in the deck?

here - basic definition everybody can agree on except this dumbfuck >>97507889 who thinks you spend houses in keyforge

Resource System: a mechanic where players acquire discrete units of currency (a "Resource") which are spent to play or activate cards. Cards can have differing amounts of resources required to play or activate them ("Costs"). Resources can be of a single type (eg credits, energy) or come in different "Colors" (mana types, material types, etc) with card costs having corresponding color requirements.
resource systems are a balancing mechanism where cards of higher power can be balanced by having correspondingly higher costs to play or use them. when resource colors are used, the system also segregates the cardpool to create more design space.

important distinction is that the resource system =/= the resource generators. a single resource system is allowed to have multiple types of resource generators. you can do built-in shit like discard or clicks for resources and also have equivalents of lands, bursts or drip in the same resource system no problem.

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>>97509930
>Isn't that the best card in the deck?
It is, but it's also in a weird spot where it's not really a card you plan to spam over and over again unlike some other best-card-in-deck, like for example the Five Elders for Imu.
8c Carrot is a card you play once and win that same turn due to all the extra attacks it gives, so you instead spend the turns before building up board by playing 5c Carrot and 10c Law/Bepo instead.
Because of this you only really need to see a single 8c Carrot overall per game, and at that point going to 3 copies instead of 4 is fine and gives you room for something else.

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>>97508392
I did back when I received them. Got b& for a few days, so this is the best you'll get as a result.

>Also I'm so desperate I'd be fine with getting bootlegs if it means more exposure.
Be careful what you wish for, anon. It's not worth a cheap production run now to cost you millions later.

>>97509969
Fair enough, thanks. I haven't put together that deck yet, but it does look like a good surprise factor in some metas.

>>97505262
>Phygital Phailure Edition
>I guess altered crashed and burned
yeah, shocking fucking twist there. who could have foreseen another obvious scam tcg imploding after a year. somehow anons will act surprised again when we do the exact same thing with (insert name... probably riftbound or cookie crush atm) in 6 months.

>What is the one card you used to own that you would most like to have back?
I sold a lot of my old games like L5R and meccg that I regret getting rid of

How do you feel about AI art for indie projects?

>>97510036
For a moment there I thought this was a good game, but its just pokemon.

>>97510036
How much have you made from working with the company you picked?

>>97510123
Truth be told, I'm still about $12k in the red. I've branched out to developing some other games to try and make ends meet. One of which was published by Speedrobo Games last November.

The TCG space is rough, even for a massive corporation. If I had any piece of advice for an aspiring indie dev, I'd tell them to not start with a TCG. Start in the board game sphere first. Get a couple titles under your belt, get them published, start making money first. Then use that to finance the TCG. I'm doing it in the opposite order and I'm wishing I hadn't.

Don't get me wrong, I love The Condemned and I'm damn proud of what I've made. But now I'm in a spot where I can't afford to produce the expansions and I'm unable to grow the game because I don't have the funding necessary to get it off the ground.

>>97510223
Stick to writing books for now, got it.

>>97510230
At least until you have a name for yourself and your style of game design. I would also say it's easier to transition from tabletop to TCG than book writing to TCG. Especially if some of your tabletop games involve cards. Think Eldritch Horror to Arkham Horror from FFG. You can convert one of your existing games, build up a new game from it.

>>97510078
The same way I feel about indies asking AI to do game design for them.

>>97510230
Could be worst I build houses for a living and my government is mad that private companies are building houses and some some socialist utopian government is building them and as result has frozen all permits for constructions.
As a result already expensive houses due to already retarded taxations have gone even more expensive.
So I'm here waiting for the currently new elected government is less retarded in the meanwhile I'm burning money just by existing

>>97510489
A better alternative to human retardation, which you cannot determine the presence of from outside?

>>97510508
It's shit either way. And shit games and shit art are worthless.

>>97510553
>shit games and shit art are worthless
OP cards are worth quite a lot, actually.

>>97510667
HA! GOTTEM!

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>>97510223
>Don't get me wrong, I love The Condemned and I'm damn proud of what I've made. But now I'm in a spot where I can't afford to produce the expansions and I'm unable to grow the game because I don't have the funding necessary to get it off the ground.
NTA, but I'm sorry to hear that, anon. I was looking forward to seeing what you were able to accomplish with set 2.

>>97510739
I'm still buying art when and where I can. I will get Chaotic Assault to market, I just need to get more sales first.

>>97510904
>I just need to get more sales first.
Sell me another box, then. I know that doesn't magically fix the financial problems, but I want to support the project. Hit me with a link to make the purchase, because it's Friday, and I'm way too lazy to look for it.

>>97510223
>>97510941
same/ meant to get a box a while back and didn't get to it.
how much art do you need to finish the set out?

https://youtube.com/shorts/hjkKAaIAtAc?si=bYy3s41fPkw73dO4

>>97510941
>>97511016
>Booster Box
https://juelgames.com/product/the-condemned-ccg-enter-the-arena-booster-box/
>Single Packs
https://juelgames.com/product/the-condemned-ccg-enter-the-arena-booster-pack/

>how much art do you need to finish the set out?
Let's see...It looks like I'm at...28/128 cards with finished art. I have a couple cards I haven't spoiled yet because I'm focusing more on the current set and selling that at stores.

My main goal is to get booster drafts going at more stores. They're low cost for patrons and high profitability for the stores, and also turns into regular revenue for me. I reached out to a good 30 stores in multiple states earlier this week. I went to the FAB website, pulled up their list, and started going state by state. I plan to do the same for Pokemon and UVS. If I get even three responses out of every state in the country, I'll call it a success.

I got one that wasn't a "yes I'll buy" reply, but they did say to follow up in September. And they're less than 2 hours away from me, so I might even be able to drop by in person some time...

If you want to play online, I host online events though TTS every Thursday night in The Condemned CCG discord. There's a link on the website.

>>97511223
can't you call locals in your region and ask them if you can sell your game?

>>97511236
>can't you call locals in your region and ask them if you can sell your game?
That's what I've been doing, actually. And now I'm reaching out to every game store in the state, as well as neighboring states at this point. I've done what I can in the local space.

>>97511250
how many agreed to sell your game?

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This is the way the game ends.
This is the way the game ends.
This is the way the game ends.
Not with a bang, but a whimper.

>>97510078
I don't care as long as I like the gen

>>97511272
3 stores agreed to sell. Two went out of business since then. The third still sells it, and they've moved through about 70% of their initial order in 10 months. So slowly, but not completely dead. We have had two drafts fire off there, which is great. They've seen what can happen when that works, and they like it. It's just getting that happening consistently is the challenge.

>Why draft
Because it's half the cost of MTG or less, it's fun as hell, a $10 draft is a relatively easy sell price-wise, and the store stands to profit from regular draft play more than someone just coming in and buying a pack or two. It turns into regular, routine revenue and business for the store. Every time a store has run a draft, they loved it. So that's why I'm leaning into that in the marketing.

>>97511293
>Staple reprints....is.....LE BAD!

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>>97511223
Success! ^_^

>>97511340
Fiddler's green came out in a set back in June of '25. Not even a full year old and they're using that card as chaff to mitigate your chances of pulling the other power cards. Looking for a scrap, outsiders bulk. All of these will outnumber the actual chase cards 2000 to 1. Premium set. Ask SWU and MTG how that's going for them.

>>97511297
AI art for my hentai TCG it is.

>>97511389
>Ask MTG how that's going for them.
Record sales, from what I've been hearing.

>>97511372
I'll get that packed up right now!

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>>97511410

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They didn't like that. Dead class.

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>>97511422
Legit

>>97509882
>YGO is right fucking there.
The normal summon is Yugioh's resource system. Just because a game subverts is rules at every chance it gets doesn't mean those rules disappear.

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>>97511519

all of those dislike mojis are pent up from the full reveal of the penis ranger suite

fucking sideboard throat cloggers, that's what they got in the end

I have overslept, so I'll close the poll now. With the final vote at 4 to 3, Wizard duel wins. Somehow Creature Battler got less votes on the second poll.

With that, lets go straight into the next topic:
Theme.

What theme do you want tthe game to have? Every suggestion here will be put on the poll for tomorrow. Please include a name for your theme (not necessarily the name of the game) and a short (~1 paragraph) description.

>>97511576
These are so bad, all the hypecreators lose their minds over this
>>97511519
This thing is actually mildly useful and it's universally hated. Shows how much this fanbase knows.

>>97511545
Rule restrictions != resource system, you mutt.

>>97511934
My only response is fuck off and die. We've been through this before. You were retarded then, you're retarded now.

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>>97511293
Fucking rusted relic? The junk super rare literally no one uses? This is premium service???

>>97511960
So many of these boxes will be relic duds which will drive the price down on every other non chase card. Anyone that buys this is going to get the worst box ev in he history of the game and then the ones that fucked around ordering cases are going to find out.

does this anon think resources and actions are the same thing? >>97511545
probably thinks draw is a resource too while we're at it.

>>97511934
probably just the tism. those motherfuckers love doing a well akshually and broadening definitions one exception at a time until the the word is no longer useful for communication.

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Why is the Hololive OCG not as popular around here? The game's pretty fun to play.

>>97512116
No good sim, no marketing, and niche IP

>>97511588
Been reading veins of the earth (an underdark RPG book) so that's what's on my mind lately. Let me give it a try
Theme: Weird fantasy underdark
Light is the main resource. You play weird creatures that live underground, like living fossils, nightmare elves, cyborg dwarves, deep elementals. Some creatures need light, others prefer darkness. Snuff out the light of your opponent to win

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what are the gundam tcg current meta decks, please?

>>97512290
VotE is one of my favorite supplements, good shit. I think you can definitely do some interesting things representing light/dark as things turned face up and face down.

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>>97512116
>Check bushinav to see how big NY events are going to be around here
> 16/16
> 23/16
> 18/16
Thanks FWMC for getting everyone out of the woodworks in my state

>>97512116
>Vtubing is still pretty niche and gets no respect in the streaming scene
>this didn't drop when Hololive was absolutely banging
>Couldn't have dropped the Gura Bomb even when they wanted to
>So many games released last year and the majority picked other things
>They just don't like Pokemon

Take your pick. At the very least I know it's getting people new to Hololive and VTubing because someone in my scene couldn't name La+ this morning.

>>97511942
Are Pokémon's trainer cards a resource?

>>97512429
>NY/NJ area
That area is fairly active from waht I've seen from tournament results. Probably not as big as Canada or Florida but I'm jelly you get to play in that zone.
>>97512429
>Vtubing is still pretty niche and gets no respect in the streaming scene
Is it? Even some of my friends are becoming indies. (With like 2-3 views but still). Though I guess my normie friends do still think Vtubers are weird or just don't care for them.
>Couldn't have dropped the Gura Bomb even when they wanted to
This may be a factor for sure. This and Fauna.
>They just don't like Pokemon
That's the weird thing, though. I'm not a huge fan of the Pokemon TCG gameplay but this feels very refreshing and fun.

>>97509712
>we are!
You are brave for running that event, it sounds so tempting with how surprisingly hard it is to find your pieces in that deck. Did it ever feel too bricky?

>>97511588
Theme: horny
Every card in the game has and is a hot looking girl that represents the hot girl version of a different thing. You can have RPG classes as hot girls. Dragons as hot dragon girls. Hot cyborg girls. Cthulhu as a busty milf. Elements and characters from all over culture equalised by being rendered as sexy girls.

>>97512498
>I'm not a huge fan of the Pokemon TCG gameplay but this feels very refreshing and fun
Holoka is to PTCG what DM is to MtG. The bigger issue is that Hololive has nothing to do with Pokémon so you really feel how the design was copied from there, even if it's better in every aspect.

>>97511588
Post Apocalyptic Fantasy: Earth gets trashed by some means and as the the scraps of humanity salvage things magic becomes comes into play so now there's Humans and magical beings sharing a wreck of a planet trying to make things work. Something like Thundarr the Barbarian.

https://youtu.be/LKpIKkq6B90?si=JnGQhAv1OZg21dRJ

>>97512634
>hundreds of hours in 2077
He's a Wixoss fan, you just know he's got every NSFW mod on the planet installed.

>>97511588
theme:dimension monsters
each dimension has its own life form. for example in the light dimension, you have light creature; etc... each monsters on each dimensions try to dominate other's dimensions by making war with other dimension, thus begin the great dimension war. chose your dimension and conquer dimensions!

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>>97512569
I can dig it

>>97511588
Mahō shōjo
Magical girls. Inspired by all facets of the magical girl genre. From Sailor Moon to Sakura to Mew Mew to Mermaid Melody to PreCure to Madoka to MahoAko to Princession to anything else. Cute girls and their cute mascots fighting for good (or for evil). Henshin as a fundamental mechanic. Powerups. Finishers and group attacks. Maybe emotional energy as a resource. Corruption if we want to be based.

>>97511588
Loli Wars
There are 3 warring factions:
Mecha Musume
Monster Girls
Magical Girls

All 3 factions are made up entirely of lolis.

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>>97511588
doll nest: the card game

Threadly card from my game as promised. Past is the game's gy but named different for flavour reasons.
The Great Migration - 2E2D2C
Each player swaps each card in their hand with a random card from their Past.

>>97512324
Same as the second set niggy

>>97513135
I'm new to the game so I don't know what are those meta deck

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>>97509452
Yeah, to 3D exile creatures, to the duelist cards, to the new ways to utilize hyperspatial zone (you can now SUMMON psychic creatures, so cards like Onikamas can't bounce them) this set has been amazing so far.
Also I've been really intrigued to try magic deck in advance format with all of the new toys they got in this set.

>>97513049
Oh, it's a digital game? How dull.

>>97513437
No it's not. In meatspace we have this thing called shuffling that lets you randomise the order of a deck of cards.
>inb4 you should spell it out
I'm not going to bloat card text on an individual basis when I can just add a bulletin point to the rules. Especially not in the prototyping stage.

>>97513498
You are a retard, and that effect is going to be a nightmare to resolve in paper play. Stop acting so condescending when you suck at game/card design.

Also, what happens if you have more cards in hand than in the graveyard? You're designing the game for a digital sim, not paper play, and you're too fucking stupid to realize it.

Now quickly, scramble for some way to double down on how it's totally not a bad effect.

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>>97513392
If I played I'd also consider a magic deck.
Turn 3 Dimeijin from Karakurenaigo seems like an absolutely busted combo.
>free 5 cost spell
>free hyperspatial 6 and 7 drop

https://duelmasters.fandom.com/wiki/Tornado_Teleport_Hole
https://duelmasters.fandom.com/wiki/Gil_Topgear
https://duelmasters.fandom.com/wiki/Karakurenaigo,_Geima_Crimson_Tiger
https://duelmasters.fandom.com/wiki/Dimeijin,_Geima_Dragon_Tiger

>>97513537
>Stop acting so condescending when you suck at game/card design.
It's your fault for engaging with him after the last thread.

>>97513622
I must've missed that somehow, which is still my fault.
How unfortunate.

Fish and barrel grift weekend kicked off and there's not one decent surprise left in the set. It's so over.

>>97511340
This but unironically

>some madlad added a "draft" mode on jinteki.net
freetards truly give us what we do not deserve

>All top 4 winners on my local shop here Boa Hancock decks
Wtf

>>97513537
>that effect is going to be a nightmare to resolve in paper play
Consider:
>count how many cards are in your hand
>place said cards aside
>shuffle your graveyard
>draw that many cards from it
>place the previous hand you set aside in the graveyard
Not that hard when you have a basic understanding of how the world functions, is it?
>>97513543
>what happens if you have more cards in hand than in the graveyard?
Then you draw out your whole current graveyard and that's it. This is intentional.
>You're designing the game for a digital sim, not paper play
On the contrary, I think you're the one who struggles to imagine how things might work out on a table and needs everything spelled out. You also somehow think that card design and formalising text should happen at the same time, which is not the case. Whether or not the card effects are worded clearly and properly understood is found during testing with other people, which happens only after you've defined a set of rules to play the game by and come up with enough cards to do test matches. You clearly haven't taken any creative endeavours in your life if you think each individual element should be finalised by itself when polishing is the last thing you do, actually.
>>97513549
>how it's totally not a bad effect
It's probably overcosted trash that mostly exists for flavour but "dump your opponent's current hand, give yourself good knowledge of what's in their new one, fetch your own combo pieces if you've set up your graveyard right" is probably not an effect you want to be cheap.

>>97513708
Your local scene is full of coomers.

>>97513437
>>97513537
Anon, did you misread the card and assume it makes you draw from your opponent's graveyard and vice versa?

>>97512529
Deck bricks a lot due to only having a single searcher in Wanda, so We Are helps with it a bit, but some matches you still get a bit fucked and can't find your stuff.

>>97512529
>>97514044
Should also mention that I run both Bartolomeo and Bonney to help with draw, with Barto letting you filter hand every turn with Carrot's leader effect, and Bonney being one of the very few green cards that actually lets you go positive in draw. Them being blockers is a great boon as well.

>>97512116
Nobody here likes the shitty gameplay of Pokemon

>>97505262
Newfag question. I hear One Piece is a huge card game now but why do I not hear anything about it and does it not have a general?

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Hey, sorcery fags! How do you feel about Magellan's Globe? It's considered a Pathfinder staple and it's almost in every Pathfinder deck, but I just don't get it. You can get to 6 mana by turn 6, and to 8 by turn 9. Yeah, The globe can accelerate you on Turn 6, but you play it instead of a big body to the realm and you open yourself to attacks from all over. It just seems to me people see the globe as the solution Pathfinder's limitations, but they don't really need.

Before anyone says it's to launch a surprise attack to the opponents back row, there are much better ways to do that via auras and water/air minions.

>>97511588
Reminder that we are still open for suggestions for theme. A poll will be created including ALL suggestions, no matter how stupid.

>>97511588
Theme: food restaurant popularity fight
Creatures are customers that will give your opponent bad reviews or fight their customers (either online or physically)
Resources are food items that have to be on the menu before you can get certain customers
Field permanents are kitchen equipment that produces food items or give your customers a good time (buff)

>>97514695
Sorry anon but this sounds really boring

>>97514063
I do.

>>97514816
=(

>>97511588
Theme: two wildlife parks trying to build up their own nature tourist spots while doing their best to outsabotage the other by burning forests, poaching, or sniping endangered species

>>97511588
Sci-Fantasy Nazism
Neo Nazi factions rediscover occultism, invent new types of science, and do all sort of other wacky stuff as they fight for supremacy and search for Hitler's real body in Argentina. Different factions will have different themes. Runes, demonic summonings, absurd weapons, resurrected dinosaurs, cybernetic SS warriors, alien technology. All of it Nazi themed.

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This is the future of fab. Hope you like ten thousand dollar decks rolling up on someone that entered the tourney with an armory deck freshly opened and badly sleeved.

>>97512324
Unclear. People are just using new shit, if it's better or not just to test out new shit. Most people are trying to refine a Barbatos or an Exia deck at the moment, but I promise rush and Wing are going to be meta again. Ping is probably going to wind up a top deck now, but there are 20 different variants and it will take a while to figure out which one is "the one"

>>97514620
It is very big overall, just not on this site for some reason.

>>97514978
ok I see thank you very much

DM-like creatures-as-lands approach but you can then play those creatures from the mana zone if you have enough without them to pay for the cost.

>>97514994
/a/ and /tg/ audiences have diverged. While you used to get measured reasonable chatter pre-timeskip, nowadays all mangaGAWDs and namefags like yziima wanna do is hypepost, post aura farming, and discuss what RCT Gum Gum no Jutsu will do against the Oppai Lolibaba main character and her simp army if they ever managed to cross paths. Similarly we used to have real discussion here now it's all piss and unironic shilling from indie game devs like the condemned or full spectrum dominance, yet they never ever have pictures of anyone playing their game or even sleeving them.

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>gundam meta
>it's either some OYW deck from set 1 only or blue/white blockers
i sleep

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>SAGE will save fab!
>you can play ANYONE in sage!
>you can WIN with 20 dollar precons!
>The game is actually balanced at rare and lower levels!

How many more lies will it take for fabians to learn their lesson? LSS can't keep this up.

>>97515256
Predictions for the top 8? My prediction is only 3 Briars, but one of them will win it all in the end.

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>>97515256
>you can play ANYONE
>NOT HIM
Arcane chuddies crying

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>>97515290
They were trying to save themselves the embarassment, but they honestly could've targeted briar too and blown things even wider open. You know what? Just ban runeblade from the game at this point.

>>97515287
chat is guessing briar will take it, but there's quite a few undefeateds

>>97515245
don't forget Green White Wing blockers

Should I just bite the bullet and play meta decks in Gundam? My R/W Ping deck isn't working well at all. They gave good ping damage on Barbatos (exile cards to deal 2 damage) of all units.

>>97515185
I'm mainly playing Pokémon now, my bad.

>>97515471
depends. is your meta casual or sweaty?

>>97515155
I also had this kind of idea where you can put cards in the mana zone and you can also play card from the mana zone forwards but you must pay the cost of play of the card in the mana zone

https://tcgtopdecks-hq.com/gddeckgen/
I want to play green/purple (thanks doc) (cb) "archetype" but I know the gundam exia trans am is meh unfortunatly

are you going to dl next poll?

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cool format, guise

The heroes that already speedran LL are now terrorizing fresh formats. It's good to be a powergamer.

>>97514620
It's strange. Digimon tcg has a general, but OP doesn't have one. I guess there isn't much to talk about it

>>97515806
FaB had the same issue, but instead they clung to this thread and pissed about, claiming they didn't need their own thread. That this was their thread.
Look at them now.

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UA pulls from a week ago that I forgot to post here. Pretty happy with the SR* Noir.

>>97515869
Sure, but there isn't much talk here when it comes to OP. Some anons talk about it from time to time, but it's the same amount as other acgs. It would be nice to have an OP thread, but I think it will die quickly

Bought a box of Love & Abyss.

>>97515883
I think it's funny that was have a single union arena fag now

>>97515898
post pulls

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I thought this was funny too. I pulled 5 different Rapis from a single pack.
>>97515906
It's the most popular game in my hometown. I've only been to one local. I'm still new to it myself.

>>97515942
Will do when it gets here.

>>97516009
oh ok

>>97515993
>5
4* I can't count...

>>97515869
>claiming they didn't need their own thread.
They didn't then, they don't now.
>That this was their thread.
Never their claim. They said they were allowed to be here, and they were correct.
>Look at them now.
There's truthfully not much fab discussion anymore here, because a lot of the original players burned out on how shit the game is managed. Look at you now, still bitching they need their own thread. Even though you have the whole of 250 plus posts to circle jerk yourself, it isn't enough.

>>97515806
something I've noticed over the years is that different games attract different types of people, and it has a very big impact on how the community operates and what it makes.

>>97516171
like?

>>97515883
Based, now you need Blanc.

>>97511588
You still have about 15 minutes to get in your theme.

>>97511588
Kaijus
I don't think I need to explain what Kaijus are, just go watch any of the seven or so good Godzilla movies. We can add giant robots in there too if you want.

New Poll is up: https://poal.me/em17u1

Weird fantasy underdark
Light is the main resource. You play weird creatures that live underground, like living fossils, nightmare elves, cyborg dwarves, deep elementals. Some creatures need light, others prefer darkness. Snuff out the light of your opponent to win

horny
Every card in the game has and is a hot looking girl that represents the hot girl version of a different thing. You can have RPG classes as hot girls. Dragons as hot dragon girls. Hot cyborg girls. Cthulhu as a busty milf. Elements and characters from all over culture equalised by being rendered as sexy girls.

Apocalyptic Fantasy
Earth gets trashed by some means and as the the scraps of humanity salvage things magic becomes comes into play so now there's Humans and magical beings sharing a wreck of a planet trying to make things work. Something like Thundarr the Barbarian

>>97516513
dimension monsters
each dimension has its own life form. for example in the light dimension, you have light creature; etc... each monsters on each dimensions try to dominate other's dimensions by making war with other dimension, thus begin the great dimension war. chose your dimension and conquer dimensions

Mahō shōjo
Magical girls. Inspired by all facets of the magical girl genre. From Sailor Moon to Sakura to Mew Mew to Mermaid Melody to PreCure to Madoka to MahoAko to Princession to anything else. Cute girls and their cute mascots fighting for good (or for evil). Henshin as a fundamental mechanic. Powerups. Finishers and group attacks. Maybe emotional energy as a resource. Corruption if we want to be based.

Loli Wars
There are 3 warring factions: Mecha Musume, Monster Girls, Magical Girls
All 3 factions are made up entirely of lolis.

doll nest: the card game

>>97516513
>>97516519
food restaurant popularity fight
Creatures are customers that will give your opponent bad reviews or fight their customers (either online or physically)
Resources are food items that have to be on the menu before you can get certain customers
Field permanents are kitchen equipment that produces food items or give your customers a good time (buff)

two wildlife parks
two wildlife parks trying to build up their own nature tourist spots while doing their best to outsabotage the other by burning forests, poaching, or sniping endangered species

Sci-Fantasy Nazism
Neo Nazi factions rediscover occultism, invent new types of science, and do all sort of other wacky stuff as they fight for supremacy and search for Hitler's real body in Argentina. Different factions will have different themes. Runes, demonic summonings, absurd weapons, resurrected dinosaurs, cybernetic SS warriors, alien technology. All of it Nazi themed.

>>97516513
>>97516519
>>97516525

Kaijus
I don't think I need to explain what Kaijus are, just go watch any of the seven or so good Godzilla movies. We can add giant robots in there too if you want.


We gathered a lot of ideas, now its your job to sort the wheat from the chaff! Everyone get in there and vote!

>>97516513
voted

>>97516513
>>97516532
I should also add, everyone should feel free to add their thoughts on the themes to the thread. Have a cool idea for expanding one of the themes? Think one of the themes has limited design scope? Voice your opinion. I may be organising this, but this is our project.

>>97515629
>gundam exia trans am is meh unfortunatly
Hardly. If your locals are still believe the only deck is wing blockers, it does struggle but if your opponents are playing anything else including other stale decks like OYW and Blupre aggro, CB does well and Trans Am is the win condition. It also does well into Jupitris which itself shits on blockers so that deck will show up at your locals if they are still stuck on wing.

>>97516577
aren't <breach> cards meta? to be honest with you, I wanted trans am because I like the card illustration lol

>>97505262
Hi anons, I am kinda trying to create my own tcg (inspired by ygo) and I would like to ask, are there any documents/channels/wikis about game design and design philosophies? Like why it makes sense to do x and not y ?
My current problems lies within the understanding which values I take for ATK/DEF. If I take stuff like mtg/hearthstone etc. it's mostly in single digits compared to the 1000s ygo has, the difference is incredibly significant. Like 1/1 single mana and 2/2 two mana, which is basically double of the single mana monster. I like that it's easier to calculate than with 1000s, still this feels like very difficult to optimize.

>>97516931
The only things that matter mechanically for stats are:
1. Increment
2. Range.

Stuff like whether there are 1/1s, 100/100s or 10,000/10,0000s is all aesthetic. It can change the feel of your game, something like DB feels more DB when you have big numbers, but it doesn't really make any difference 99.9% of the time.

To explain the initial point further when I say Increment, I mean what is the standard increment you vary stats by. In Magic, it's 1, so you have 1/1s, 2/2s, etc. In YGO its 100, you see 1800, 1900, 2000, and only very, VERY rarely do you see something like 1850, and 99% of those are from the early days. Digimon uses 1,000. DBS:M uses 5k. What the increment is doesn't matter, but if you're going bigger than 1 you should be consistent with it and only break it with intention.

Range is the more important aspect and that's the range in which stats usually lie and should be thought of in increments. Yugioh has a wide number of increments (1-40).

>>97516931
>>97517020
Cont.

Magic has a smaller range ~0-10. Digimon is ~1-15. DBS has a pretty strict 1-9, with 9 usually reserved for Secret Rares.

TL;DR. There's no mechanical difference between 1/1s or 100,000/100,000s. So go with whatever you want.

>>97516931
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbniq6ShcFR68cb9RvLpw720lDVye-AjI&si=9vDFitNyUs_48cQ9
and
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQvcDH29EaxnriGYLtBEUUbAzJ6XYngB0&si=3FaIFHXfw79Y_miI

>>97514620
Honestly wanted to ask the same question, feels like a bug in the system. Isn't OP tcg bigger than Yugioh and Digimon here in the west? Digimon in the /vg/ general at least gets to discuss the card game but OP doesn't have anything like that

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my attempt at dofus card game I made times ago

>>97517020
>>97517039
>>97517099
damn anon thank you very much. I will keep this in my notes. But yes it's basically the range. Like if we go by 1s and it's like ygo, where you resource are monsters and we go by the range that 3/x is where you have at least one tribute.
You can only do 1/1, 1/2, 2/1 and 2/2 (rare), but in that case I would fill with only 2/2 and don't get anything else and I get heavily limited by the variety of the cards, where there can only be better cards if they have a special effect.

Now let's think about ygo ranges. 2000 is the tribute treshold. So I can now have 1500/1000, 1200/1800, 500/800 etc. it gives me a lot more flexibility. At best I can go with 10s, but still the calculation part becomes more annoying. Also the optimizing values can be quite annoying I would say.

I hope I could make my dilemma more clear. Your post definitely gave me a huge insight on that and I will check out these two videos you showed me.

>>97517166
>Like if we go by 1s and it's like ygo, where you resource are monsters and we go by the range that 3/x is where you have at least one tribute.
I feel like you're conflating two variables here.

Why can you not set LP to 80, and have the tribute threshold of 20? Then you could have 15/10, 12/18 or 5/8.

>>97517178
that is actually with a very much high probability the route I will go in the end, probably halving all the values and make less LP, but yes. I just wanted to think if there is a possibility I am not seeing or am unaware of, that you can actually to with an increment of 1.

>>97517217
>just wanted to think if there is a possibility I am not seeing or am unaware of, that you can actually to with an increment of 1.
I don't understand what you were trying to say here, but I will point out this >>97517178 is using an increment of 1.

>>97517224
What I mean is the calculation part. Caluclating 2-2, 5-3,20-3 is always easier than calculating 73-17, 56-9 etc. It's not as annoying as calculating 5450-2500 or 6700-1900, but still not as simple as the other ones.

>>97516190
some communities have very proactive, organization driven players. give them three months they'll have generals, forums, databases, fully implemented sims, the whole thing. others just don't seem to have anyone who takes charge even when the community is very large.

>>97517363
I see thx

>>97516513
Reminder to Vote! We only have 5 votes so far!

>>97516513
Isn't everyone going to vote for their own thing though? I voted something else out of honesty

>>97517536
This is why I made multiple submissions.

>>97517582
Yeah but are you still voting for yourself?

>>97517917
One more week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTKySEGQ5b0

I had a dream last night that I opened my box of Pandora Wars (that is actually coming irl) and the duelists I got was Stein and Vanquish and I was disappointed for not getting any of the cute girls.

>>97517998
I hope this won't happen to me either.

Why do binders cost so much money? Any recommendations for cheap ones?

The original iteration of Time Walk read "Opponent loses next turn"

People who design their own TCGs, what do you use for keeping track of cards? I'm currently using Google Sheets.

>>97517917
Is that crystal part of her tits or the costume?

>>97518141
Yes.

>>97517122
>Isn't OP tcg bigger than Yugioh and Digimon here in the west
....cmon bro seriously?

>>97515883
kinda sad they censored second set for some reason

>>97515155
Union Arena

I just got back from locals, so I wasn't able to submit a theme. I wanted to say No Theme, so that you can do extremely silly stuff like Yugioh without anything holding you back. Other games also do this while having a theme, but those games' themes let you do that. Stuff like CFV, Buddyfight, MtG or Duel Masters. I just found it easier to just say no theme.

Not like it matters though, because was extremely late.

>>97517536
You didn't have to submit a theme to vote. So everyone voting for their own thing will be cancelled out by everyone else.

>>97518484
I tried to be generous with the time frame, but I guess 24 hours is not enough.

>>97518513
It was, I just don't check this thread that often.

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>>97514620
No idea.

>>97518215
You couldn’t pay someone to buy the Yugioh or Digimon shit. Meanwhile OP is cleaned out every time I go to Target/Walmart and has been like that consistently for 2 years now.

>>97516167
>Look at you now, still bitching they need their own thread.
Never said that. They definitely can't sustain one now. They blew that chance.

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>>97516513
If horny or underdark win I'll draw art for it

FAB enjoyers, what good silver age waifus are there?

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>>97518345
Was it just the Soda card? Still inexcusable, I'm just curious how much was censored.
>>97516408
I probably should since I have pic related on the way.

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>>97518737
Iyslander the GOAT
I don't even know what the SAge meta is like, I haven't played in a while. I just fucking love disruption and taxes.

>>97518781
WHITE WOMAN

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>>97518651
Idk why I didn't post the finished version

>>97516513
The poll is still on! It's very close so make sure you get your vote in.

>>97518651
I appreciate the offer. We'll need art if we manage to hold this together.

>>97518527
I think the discord for it is good enough I dont really have a reason to post about it here, if there are new cards I want to get the translation or discuss some usage for in older decks I have no reason to come here to do it for example, there is no discussion here about results or what rotation will look like for example, all I get from here is some new player that I might get a kick from suggesting a deck to start with or something.

tldr this isnt the best place available to talk about it

>>97518537
That's because Bandai shortprints.

>>97518760
I saw swmisuit anis and elleg getting censored too

>>97519048
I won't use shitcord

>>97518651
>If horny
Based
>>97518927
>picrel
sexo

4chan has seen a decline which is why there isn't a One Piece TCG general for example

>>97519448
One Piece has seen a decline.

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>Jamil's Gundam X
>Has the Pilots name in it
>Doesn't link with the pilot

It feels like the Dev team plays favorites when it comes to how much effort they put into designing a series. Gundam X is just completely screwed.

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>went to Spiritforged pre-Rift event
>literally everybody cheated (including me)
I have no idea why Riot has decided to make the most fucked text of any card game.
>EQUIP effects target the unit it equips to
>WEAPONMASTER effects target the Equipment you are going to equip with, but it itself doesn't count as using the EQUIP effect and therefore doesn't target your unit, even through within the reminder text it says that you may EQUIP an equipment to it, which is the keyword that DOES target.
Why did they not just do something like
>WEAPONMASTER (When you play me, you may attach one of your equipment to me, even if its already attached, by paying its EQUIP cost with 1 [A] less.)
That would convey that its not doing the EQUIP, but just referencing the cost. I even followed the retarded "we must never say choose even though cards want to know whether choosing is happening" shit they do as well.
I have never experienced such difficulty in a card game from the text alone. It feels like every other card has people misinterpret its more casual text and nobody knows rulings behind them off the dome.

>>97519513
I don't get it.

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>>97519550
One of the Legends you can start with in the pre-Rift event is Irelia.
Irelia lets you pay a Power to ready a friendly unit, if you choose it in any way.
The EQUIP keyword chooses a friendly unit to attach itself to, so using EQUIP allows you to use Irelia's Legend ability to ready your unit by paying a Power and exhausting her.
WEAPONMASTER is a keyword introduced in Spiritforged that, upon initial reading, lets you use the EQUIP ability of an Equipment you control for 1 Power less. This would mean that you could play a WEAPONMASTER unit, use it to activate the EQUIP ability of an equipment, trigger Irelia because EQUIP chooses, and then for 1 Power would let you ready the unit you just played, effectively causing them to enter ready for the cost of 1 Power and having an Equipment on field.
In reality, WEAPONMASTER does not actually use the EQUIP ability at all. The WEAPONMASTER ability chooses the Equipment and attaches it, so you don't actually EQUIP at all. This means no Irelia trigger because your unit isn't being chosen, which means no readying.
Every single person at the multiple pre-Rift events I attended triggered Irelia off of a WEAPONMASTER, including me. Found out afterwards the actual rules for the situation, and am just losing my mind at how dogshit the reminder text is

>>97511293
wtf
I thought that these would be all cold foils at least.

>>97518781
>I don't even know what the SAge meta is like
It's 'bullshit reigns balance,' I'm afraid. Your cold waifu will make others seethe, she's an elemenalist so she never not eats good.

>>97519510
>The broken Gundam from when Jamil lost his ability to pilot can't link
I'm not all that mad at it. Mechanically, it needed to be able to link to make the deck better. Flavor-wise, I'd say it fits perfect.

Gonna try that G/W Gundam deck. Whoever made this mobilesuitearena website is a legend.
Duel Frontier is a decent website as well

>>97519601
And people say the card text anons come up with ITT is confusing.

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>>97519733
uuuh, about that, she has the literal worst conversion rate after Azalea, who converted not at all.

Funny seeing some genuinely underpowered heroes from CC get nice conversion rates in SA

>>97519510
donnt worry there will be another version where you can link the character to his mecha

Genuinely curious, how is Altered? I honestly don’t care if the game is dead/ dying, but at that price point I am so down to just buy some starter decks and boxes and play with the bros. If it is fun, what boxes should I get?

>>97520053
>I honestly don’t care if the game is dead/ dying, but at that price point I am so down to just buy some starter decks and boxes and play with the bros.
I did that with The Eye of Judgment a few years back. Was tons of fun. If it's dirt cheap, just do it at that point.

>>97518927
Says pixiv, but saucenao and ascii2d ain't finding it. Where?

>>97520053
It deserves to die for the woke shit and the god awful QR code on the front. Wait for the company to officially close down first though, only then buy it from the hapless bagholders. It might get even cheaper in a few months and you definitely don't have to worry about fomo.
The gameplay itself is pretty mid imo from the two YouTube videos that I saw of it. It's good enough for one night of boardgaming and then setting it all on fire.

>>97520053
I'm doing the same thing with Star Wars unlimited. It's dirt cheap at this point. At least, it's dirt cheap in the UK I don't know about overseas.

>>97520242
>It's good enough for one night of boardgaming and then setting it all on fire.
Oooh, you could make a fun gimmick out of it while you play: the fireplace is the discard pile!

>>97516513
There is a tie for 2nd place.

Horny wins by 1 vote.
Dimension Monsters and loli wars are tied for 2nd. Unless someone has a better solution I'm just going to make a 3-way poll for the final instead of the top two.

>>97520909
Yeah, MTG players call that the "Ironman" format. Whenever a card enters the trash you tear it to pieces. You can even hold a little home tournament with each player starting with a random common bulk pile.

>>97520925
>Unless someone has a better solution
Ok, hear me out, because this is going to get incredibly complicated, but what if you just didn't make any more polls? Like what if the poll that was posted previously was the final poll, and there were no more polls to follow?

>>97520991
Crab.

>>97520925
The three themes aren't exactly exclusive, so you could just mix all three together

>>97520925
maybe a third poll with the first place and both of the 2nd place??

Final Poll is up: https://poal.me/3v1i6
Everyone please vote. It seems the most interesting options have been eliminated, and we're left with girls or weird monsters.

Next topic of discussion is what should be next? Going off previous discussions, Turn structure would be a good option for the next decision.

>>97521009
As fun as that sounds, I want to leave the decision up to the people. I think mixing them would dilute everything but Horny. Though if we really think about it, the other two can still end up with horny cards if they win.

>>97520053
I think it's pretty fun. The only main gripe I have about it is that sometimes the end can feel anticlimactic, but there's some decent gameplay wrapped up in it.

My personal favorite set for limited was Trial By Frost, I think the mechanics were generally excellent there.

>>97518737
Any of the Warrior ladies or Levia for me. Enigma also has the best hero art in all of SAGE IMO. All of them are seemingly viable with the recent event, but we'll see how the meta shakes up. So far between the Calling and the Showdown Kayo is very good, Briar is strong and fighting through the expectation of her as BDIF going in she converted fairly well overall. Warriors and Guardian good with Warrior blockslop being the counterpick to Guardian blockslop, but the Showdown results featured neither class and instead featured 2 Kano 1 Enigma and 1 Fai so there seems to be a good variety of decks doing well and even more in the 66%+ WR bracket that were good this weekend.

>>97521315
>I think it's pretty fun. The only main gripe I have about it is that sometimes the end can feel anticlimactic, but there's some decent gameplay wrapped up in it.
But enough about my sex life...

>>97520230
Pixiv Is the name of the character

>pre-release for Riftbound at small LGS
>a bunch of the players are LGS regulars and helping each other brew
>they're even talking about times they traded cards because they got "broke rips"
>one is apparently a judge, presumably for MTG
>all of his rulings don't track to reddit explanations and favor the regulars
so this is the LGS experience everyone's been raving about

>>97521087
>Turn structure
whats this?

>>97521923
How turns work in the game? For example, Digimon has Unsuspend, Draw, Breeding and Main Phase. Yugioh has Draw, Standby, Main 1, Battle, Main 2 and End.

>>97520925
Horny was at one vote when I voted today; I see >>97518651 really swung things around. Based.

>>97521944
>Digimon has Breeding
Holy shit, why am I not playing that?

>>97521944
oh yeah I see, I was too overthinking lmmo
anyway, here's my phases
>recovery phase
>draw phase
>mana phase
>action phase
>war phase
>aftermath phase
>end phase

>>97521923
What >>97521944 said, but I think we should start more abstract. E.g. if we want to go with something similar to Digimon it would be just start -> main -> end. No need to hash out the details immediately

>>97521087
My proposal is Netrunner actions. You have a set amount of actions each turn. You use actions to play cards, draw cards or gain resources

>>97522572
At this point it's more important to decide direction than discuss specifics. I.e. should turn structure be next or something else?

>>97521087
After some thought I have been wondering if it's better to decide on a central gimmick or the turn structure first. The less we have set, the more flexibility we have in deciding something like a gimmick.

To use Bandai games as an example:
Digimon has stacking Digimon
DBS has Combo
One piece has attaching Don

A gimmick isn't necessary, but it could help give direction.

>>97522621
I think cards inform what actions you can take, and systems do too, so turn structure should come after those. Before you define things like an attack phase or a mana phase, you should decide how combat and energy work.

>>97522692
See >>97522455 if we define turn structure first, it will be in the broad sense of game flow, not defining every phase and how they work in detail. What do you think we should decide on next?

>>97514625
Doesn't matter, because you either play Water or you lose.

>>97522709
Resource, if any, should come first. Then combat, then turn structure.

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>>97505262
Just came back from my 2nd pre-release from Riftbound. Apparently I made almost $1000 in cards this weekend alone. What the fuck.
>Pulled 2 Overnumber Chamoions and a Seal of Unity

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>Go 2-1 in the Holo event at my local mall yesterday, my loss coming from a Miko deck that highrolled early on and I just couldn't keep up
>Open the promo pack they gave me for participating
>Miko again

Messed up, but cosmically funny. Traded it for a P Reine though and placed well enough for a second promo pack that landed me a Botan so I'm cool.

>>97523032
Nice! What did you play? Reine?
Miko is a very cool deck. Definitely caught me by surprise how well it's doing this meta.

>>97521087
We have a tie on the poll! Hurry up and vote for your favorite!

>>97523065
ReineIofi. As someone who actually watches Reine, I'm happy the game is putting her name out there, even if people can't pronounce it, but I had a small mental crisis when I saw two other people also running ReineIofi that happened to also use the color of Dragonshields I was using. Honestly, I shouldn't even have won game 1, my opponent just misplayed and didn't realize the 160 HP Reine 1st needed a green to attack which let me land a double knockout he couldn't recover from.

>Miko is a very cool deck. Definitely caught me by surprise how well it's doing this meta.
Reine is a top tier deck that plays kinda slowly in 2/3 variants so a fast deck that can dish out special damage and has a +50 against green makes for a pretty good matchup against Reine.

>>97522885
I pulled the $200 ezreal which is undoubtedly going to be absurdly expensive if this game takes off and they don't do reprints

>>97523104
Damn the most boring theme is winning

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WARLORD HAS ARRIVED!

>>97523256
Not that surprised. The other two are pretty divisive, so there's probably people just voting against them.

>I failed to realize the picture of the Sanji deck I was buying LACKED THE LEADER CARD
FUCK.
I'll have to ask my frens to let me play using the phone as a proxy this week. OK top of that I got scammed buying 3 common puddings at Super Rare prices.

This Sanji deck without a leader is already costing me as much as an Imu one and it's still also missing the x3 Germa Sanji that's one of the costlier cards of the deck

>>97523289
That is what you get for defying Imu.

>>97523309
Even worse, one guy needed urgent money and was selling the perfect Imu decklist from the internet at $30 but I was like
>Nah I already made my choice

Product is so on demand at least where I live that buying at tcgplayer prices is kind of a pipe dream. If someone has the card and you want it, you have to get on your knees for it.

>>97523276
>WARLORD HAS ARRIVED!
Honestly excited. I want so bad that my LGS supports the game, I want to play vs the overlord so bad.

>>97521087
Dimension monsters are winning by a single vote, loli wars has fallen behind. Everyone who has yet to vote get in before the end of the round.

Still looking on more input on whether gimmick or turn order should be next. I'll read through everything posted so if you can make a convincing argument for something else I'll consider it.

>>97524230
I vote for gimmick first, going turn order first would accidentally shut out some gimmick possibilities since you'd have to be restricted to the turn order that was previously voted on, unless you make the turn order as generic as possible.

>>97522720
Or you could stop being a salty cuck and engage in a conversation

>my double-box-ST07 Exia deck mixed with some GD03 stuff has been serving me well in small group local
>caved and bought a few TransAm Exia online to complete it
Been winning packs at small group local but decided not to wait to pull one from packs myself. Hope this CB deck keeps going.

>>97505457
I know there's a language barrier but I think you should really emphasize your hook more. It's a Yugioh-lite with grid positioning but you didn't show what makes that interesting. Does destroying part of the "puzzle" combo destroy the cards that rely on it? Can enemies move pieces around? Are elemental effects baked into the cards and is it all hardcoded?
It's got nice art but without any proper rules its hard to parse anything above surface level marketing

>>97505778
TGC is alright, kind of middle on the road for everything (quality, functionality, etc.)
Not bad for quick printed prototypes or something you expect to be low selling POD, would never use them for a full finished product tho

>>97525098
damn I also want to make a CB deck, can you show me your deck list please?