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Archmage edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms:
>>97494472

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread question:
Let's just stay on the topic of the battletome spoilers from last thread.
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I really wish the white dwarf aor for tzeentch was not legends. The arcanite aor needs A LOT more going for it to be interesting, it barely has a foundation to begin with between kairics and the jade obelisks. Don’t even get me started on the single spell, it should have at least retained the chaos spawn spell.
With that being said I’m still gonna build a list around it because I love arcanites.
Maybe I can do something with it in ptg.
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>>97508322
I think these big swings in terms of the rules are more or less emblematic of what's frustrating about AoS as a game, but also what's fun. The studio will periodically throw the baby out with the bathwater. It's just a thing they do. Both DoT and LRL are huge steps away from their faction packs. And the faction packs were massively different from their battletomes. These changes happen relatively frequently in AoS. That can piss people off, but this also makes it exciting to stick around and see how things develop over time.
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Wait why the fuck is the Great Unclean One SO expensive??
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>>97508569
It's a giant highly detailed plastic model. It sits on a giant circular base that is 13cm in diameter.
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should i pick up a verming lord, or just go all out and buy vizzik
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>>97508711
The deceiver is a fucked up unit, but extremely fun to use
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>>97508711
Vizzik is neat but the Verminlord kit gives you some neat options and lots of leftover bits for kitbashing. I sure as shit don't have my skaven army anymore but I kept this fucker.
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>>97508569
It's a suprisingly big kit, you also get quite a few extra bits for Rotigus and the 2 variants of him.
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>>97508283
>battletome spoilers
How are the new loomie and tzeentch heroes, anything fun or useful?
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>>97508937
There is a video on youtube where they review the units, at least for DoT.
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>>97508937
People are wising up to Wardens and how good they can be for the cost. New hero gives +3 rally dice to all LRL(could get nerfed to only infantry or Vanari) and lets them do anti-impact hits. So a block of 20 gets to fish for 5+ mortals. Combine him with a Bannerblade that lets you use rally even in combat and you’re rolling 9 dice to bring back wardens that are likely being made tankier by runes or spells. Tzeentch hero is pretty good and has a great combat spell.
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>>97508965
Thanks for the writeup anon, preciate it.
I'm guessing they'll post the community paintjobs and whatnot today then.
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As a rule, I fucking *hate it* when people are crying for nerfs before there has even been a proper release, but does anyone else feel like Lumineth are a bit overtuned? I'm kind of torn, on the one hand I love expression of skill and system mastery, and am really enjoying what I hope is now a trend of battletomes with meaningful choices to make, that aren't "solved" in the first weekend... on the other hand the Lumineth tome is absolutely full of very powerful effects that just work without dice rolling layered inside of dice rolling, Eltharion's "nothing personal, kid" being perhaps the ur-example; in what world is that not a once per battle ability? The other thing is these abilities and warscrolls don't exist in a vacuum; it is trivially easy to stack +5 ward, anything below a natural 4 misses, on units with a +4 save or better, and most of these things can also box. Warden blobs are going to be very hard to shift; I don't see a list that doesn't begin with two reinforced blobs with a vanari lord and a bannerblade behind them, maybe park some sentinels and a ballista back there, and obviously Eltharion is auto-include.

Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful that between Hashut, Nurgle, Lumies, and Tzeentch we now have four battletomes that actually have some meat to them, but the problem is, as I see it, that for two years prior we've gotten nothing but beer and pretzels nonsense where all the choices are traps and/or don't matter. Power creep has always been a thing, but these new books are in a class of their own.
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>>97509188
Aren't chorfs kind of weak, despite their ginmicks?
That aside the loomie buff stacking stuff seems pretty powerful, but iirc they got some sizeable price hikes across the board in anticipation. We'll see if that will actually be enough though, because you're right that some of their tricks seems rather 'free' compared to the hoops everyone else had to jump through earlier in the edition. I mean more than anything I'm happy that battletomes finally allow you to actually do shit but it does suck for half of the game's worth of armies that got their tome released in the ctrl c ctrl v period. Somebody else pointed out the difference in idk and loomie tomes and it was quite painful.
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Soo thinking of getting into AoS should I wait fir the the rumoured 2bd wave of cos or wait for the rumoured new stunties faction?
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>>97509317
We have no idea which one comes 1st
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>>97509317
>>97509318
CoS is going to be revealed at Adepticon according to the rumours
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YO
Anon that painted pic rel
Do you have more pictures of your models
I like that style (??) very much and want to emulate it
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>>97509317
stunties are still a way off
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>>97509230
>Aren't chorfs kind of weak
Only if you can't find a place with bull centaurs in stock. But in all seriousness I find them very fun, even if it's clear which warscrolls (unique and non-unique infernal taurus, bull centaurs, infernal cohort, all the warmachines) carry the army. For a debuting faction, a faction debuting in AoS4, no less, I'm quite satisfied with the book. They're also doing well enough in the competitive scene, even winning some events. Anointed Sentinel is an impressively bad warscroll, though.

I'd say the chorfs are solidly high-B, low-A tier. They can play good old fashioned, honest Warhammer well enough, but they'll struggle a bit against the buff stacking, teleport shenanigans, and overtuned faggotry of the Lumineth.

>>97509317
Helsmiths of Hashut oddly enough deliver a pretty classic dwarf experience. If your heart is set on one of two rumors, I say wait for the dwarfs. CoS has way too much going on with their aesthetic; even the most basic troops are over-designed to all hell, with more fiddly details than the heroes of other armies.
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>>97509188
overtuned is putting it lightly, lumineth look like they are playing 5th edition. Look at early tomes, skaven is only holding on together due to the ghyran bell, once that goes away the faction is dead in the water
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>>97509317
CoS will probably be shown off for adepticon, new dwarfs will come at the end of the year at best, maybe early 2027 instead. I'd say wait til the cos reveals and see if you like em
>>97509408
Huh, good to know. I was quite unimpressed with their spearhead when I faced it . Nice to see the full army is doing better at least.
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>>97509408
my only complain with the chorfs is that the artillery looks really badly designed modelwise when you compare them to the fantasy daemon engines
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>>97509128
I hear little Monty Python sound effects in my head every time I see this gif. It's delightful.
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>>97509604
>Monty Python sound effects
My teeth aren't crooked enough to understand this refrence
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>>97509345
https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/s/mSzWYxLXbH
iirc the guy shared a recipe, I usually save them to reference such more than inspo
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is he right? is tzeentch really that overpowered?
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>>97509975
Has he tried getting gud?
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why are they afraid of making kairic acolytes usable?
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Damn, the size difference between the two is bigger than I thought. Wonder if I can use some leftover tzaangor arms on kairircs.
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Anyone able to toss me the audiobooks for either of the Blacktalon books?
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>>97510093
don't use the whole arms, cut at the vambraces, it's why they're wearing shit there in the first place.
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>>97510083
sog acolytes are maybe the strongest unit in the game right now
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>>97509975
that guy is such an annoying faggot
has he ever been uniquely right about a single thing?
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>>97510137
oh, forgot they had a soggy warscroll. but given the fact they will loose that warscroll in 4 months, Im still not hyped
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I’m gonna need a guide on how to paint soot and obsidian metalics.
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>You declared a spell ability
So this reaction specifically applies only to the spells cast by one of your other wizards? Pretty funky to have an ability that lets you unbind your own spells.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zpke56li/the-face-of-change-in-battletome-disciples-of-tzeentch-with-ryan-from-threshold-tactics/
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Ignore the 3D dude in the foreground. Check out the 2D dude in the background.
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>>97509188
I think certain builds will be overpowered and deserving of the nerf, but I think people are overreacting because they think the army will have access to ALL of the things during the game, which just isn’t the case. The double Vanari Blob + VLR + and Bannerblade comes out to 730 points, which I think is a healthy cost for what is your bread and butter infantry unit that is capable of doing its job.
Dot and LRL WILL cause a lot of moaning though because they are both the first tomes with colossal overhauls in traits and warscrolls AND they will be good. LRL is essentially a new army with how different it plays. I’m personally shelving my Deepkin until 5th or significant changes beyond points because looking at both battletomes and realizing they’re from the same edition of the same game is embarrassing. Deepkin’s one claim to fame right now is mobility and Tzeentch is about to leave them in the dust.
>>97509437
You’re not far off the mark. I’d say something like 4.5e. But the fact remains. Forcing the release of battletomes at the start of the edition is a detriment to the game because this happens every time and GW doesn’t want to change it or cares too much about how it looks in financials not to put out books at the launch of an edition. Early tomes are written with more constraints because they’re done nearly at the same time the edition itself is done and it takes almost a year and half of tome releases to see proper army updates. Some early tomes can get lucky but it’s not often.
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>>97510276
would be nice if gw pushed its battletome/codex art out online.
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>>97510221
For generating FP. Flavor-wise, it’s hilarious having a magister force a fellow to fail their cast.
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Are all mortal Hedonite armies fun to play? An army that's all Myrmidesh Painbringers, Twinsouls, Sigvald, Hellstriders. Blissbard archers etc.
Love the models and it seems like they'd be fun af on the table.
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>>97510285
Yeah the entirely predictable rules cycle gets extremely annoying once you've been in the game long enough to notice that it happens every edition without fail. Getting your battletome in the first year of a new edition has always been a curse, though on the opposite end you have the poor suckers who finally get their cool, updated rules less than 6 months before the next edition release.
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>>97510285
Man, I keep forgetting that the IDK book even came out. It even had a new track and everything and it was still snores ville.
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>>97510406
My idea for alleviating that, even slightly is to stop the end of edition narrative campaign in the last 30 seconds of the edition and instead spread the books throughout. In the early narrative books give a few new toys to the factions that won’t be getting a book till later and in the later narrative books towards the end give new rules to the early books. It addresses 2 issues: 1, the one we’re discussing, and 2, the feeling of the narrative “time freeze” between the edition launch and end campaign.
They could do that or just do more SoG style updates.
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>>97510404
The guy who won the aos championship a while back did so using mostly slaanesh mortals. I don't know about fun but it's certainly viable at the very least
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God DAMN these threads are dead lately.
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>>97510276
That's the fatemaster
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>>97510404
I think more people play mortal only, or at least mortal heavy, Slaanesh amies anyway since the daemons generally aren't loved.
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>fail to successfully replace underworlds' cards arts with photoshopped models
>start heavily using it for the tomes instead
this means less money going to actual artists for actual artworks by the way
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>>97508937
I found a potentially fun interaction between the new kairos ability and the gaunt summoner on disc. The gaunt summoner can roll to insta kill an enemy hero their in combat with assuming the roll exceeds the targets health. Kairos's new ability lets you make that 2D6 roll automatically a 9, which will kill most foot heroes. The summoner isn't super survivable with only a 5+ save 5+ ward but if that hero can't one shot it, it would have no option but to retreat, letting you bully them away from providing useful buffs and abilities.
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>check secondary market after a few weeks
>lots of basecoated gitmob out of nowhere
What did I miss, they get nerfed bad or something? I didn't even know they were good lol.
>>97510671
>start
I think they've been doing this for ages sadly
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>>97509317
we're a ways off from both. I'd say pick which one you like and get the spearhead for that.
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>>97510276
I need that art
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>>97510671
don't be so pessimistic, evocative diorama shots are as important as good artworks and gw was going to cheap on the number and quality of artworks anyway
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>>97510687
When is the next preview show anyway? Adepticon in late march ish? I think we can expect CoS to be revealed then, released a month or two after that.
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>>97510276
>Ignore the 3D dude in the foreground
I can't. He's giving me a look like he's trying to seduce me. It's distracting.
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>Lord of Blights doesn't pass rotten heads to Blightkings to throw
>Instead he has a 2+ anti-charge D3 MW for plague drones
What
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>>97510671
They'd do model photos anyway, this at least looks more interesting
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>>97510806
All the cool, fun stuff - as well as shooting attacks, keep getting stripped with each new edition and battletome. Shit sucks.
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Could gits knock a fyre slayer out before they break their hands?
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>>97511006
I can understand that but if Blightkings got the anti-charge I'd accept that too. It's just baffling that Plaguedrones have rotten heads gifted to them by a Lord of Blights thematically now? Plaguebearers have the heads too so it's even more puzzling
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Is the Tzeentch Daemons Battleforce up for pre order tomorrow?

I know most AoS battleforces don’t sell out right away, but I am reading that the latest Tzeentch AoS codex is busted. My question is, do you think I should rush to get it? I want to get two boxes to cover basically all my Tzeentch Daemon needs for TOW.
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>>97509903
thank you!
I fucking hate downloading images from that shithole but still, thanks!
I will now import these images into my brain and analyze them and make it my own heh
See you in the big league
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>>97511149
>I am reading that the latest Tzeentch AoS codex is busted
rules are the worst reason to buy minis. Even if they were busted, which they're probably not, the nerf hammer could come down in 6 months and they could be below gitz tier, anything could happen. You should buy units you like and think are cool, not what you think will be meta.
>should I rush to get it
Having said that, the battleforce seems like a really good deal, and getting two boxes will give you enough units to build a full 2k list in multiple ways. I'm a bit annoyed because I've been slowly getting my tzeentch stuff second hand and if I had just waited for this I could have got the same units for about the same level of discount. I would double check on ebay, I know some stores sell those battleforces online at a slight discount with no shipping cost. Even if they sell out quick, people will post them back on ebay to recoup losses when some of them realize they don't have the time to put the army together. I wouldn't be to stressed about it either way, but imo this is a pretty good deal
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>>97508711
vermin lord. I have no hate for vizzik but I just like generic characters more. Personall.y
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>>97510551
Give me Lewd art requests
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>>97511307
Hey friend! Thanks for the long reply. Just wanted to clarify. I am asking not because I am worried about how good the units in the box are. I don’t play AoS I play TOW and want the box for TOW. I am asking because I know in 40k if a meta Battleforce comes out it gets sold out day 1.
I was wondering if I should worry about WAAC buying everything out in the first day or if it’ll be more like a standard Battleforce where it can be found here and there still a few months after.
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>>97511387
a fyreslayer and a namarti holding hands and blushing
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>>97511387
Sphiranx getting it's horns used like handlebars
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>>97511387
A cute, flirty LRL lady being tactically censored by light beams.
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>>97511387
stormcast ladies in a bath house
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>>97509975
Skill issue. The fact that he's capable of such a fucktarded take when Lumies are releasing the same weekend is legitimately impressive.

>>97510285
I'm trying to just relax and remember as annoying as wardens will be, they're still one wound models. I'm gonna get really fucked annoyed if wardens are better at grinding than my infernal cohort, though.

>>97511149
First, I second the other anon's sentiment that you should never, ever, ever buy models because of the rules they have today; rules change on a dime. Even if Tzeentch is busted, if it's to the point of being a problem you can bet it'll be adjusted before your army is table ready. Buy the shit that looks cool, that you get excited about. Anyway, if you're on the fence about Tzeentch, the battleforce is a good deal, with the caveat that I feel like everything except for the wizard chicken probably has new models some time in the next three years.
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>>97511387
a spite revenant getting pollinated by a greywater geezer.
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>>97511453
A public bathhouse, I hope. Because the juxtaposition of regular humans bathing with stormcast, aelves, duardin, sylvaneth, seraphon and whatever else just seems more fun.
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>>97511425
Kill yourself, furnigger tourist.
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>>97511465
lumineth looks like a sidegrade, aside from the broken eltharion ability
they gained new tools which are fun, but lost a lot in the process. their casting is far less reliable now, too
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Just noticed while building them that you can build the Plague Drones without the riders but there's never been rules for riderless Drones. Odd.
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>>97511569
it's not odd, kits were meant to be flexible for conversions too
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>>97511575
It's odd we've never been able to use them without riders when they seem like such an obvious unit to make.
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>>97511387
Spite revenant (female) being spit roasted, with the guy fucking the tree portion swearing in pain
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>>97511575
Nope, they could be run in 8th edition as Rot Flies or Plague Drones - Plaguebearers riding Rot Flies
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>>97511575
Man I wish the helsmiths bull could be built without wings.
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>Nighthaunt battletome sucks donkey cock compared to these new ones
I actually hate the blatant favouritism
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>>97511713
No one is crying any tears for Night haunt after their index
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>>97511400
Mhm, it seems like a really good deal AND everything is useable for 40k TS players too. On the flipside tzeentch isn't that popular of an army, and the daemon part of TS is quite volatile at the moment. I don't expect it to sell out immediately or anything, but probably won't be sitting on shelves for too long either.
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>>97511713
At least the art they got was cool. Still, until they get angels I’m not looking into the haunt.
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>>97511668
I did not know that. Cool!
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>>97511668
>Nope
do you think the rules option existed because the kit was made flexible or do you think the kit was made flexible because the option had to exist in the rules?
because I can point to a number of kits where you can assemble the creature without the rider with no particular issue even without rules for it
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These lads should get an entire army centered around them.
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>>97511797
Cowards of Sigmar
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>>97511797
YMCA!
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>>97511816
>Cowards
That man has faced and lived through far more and worse than your ass ever could

In this general Johan is a hero
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>>97511797
They did in 2019 bro
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>>97511547
>tourist
people have been posting about wanting to fuck that thing here since it first got revealed
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>As an Old Worlder I am sure you would expect a glass of champagne and a cigar smoked to this video. And you would be right, but not to celebrate the downfall of AoS, simply because as an Old Worlder I am of higher culture and taste, this is simply the accoutrement of a man of the Old World; nay -- I find no joy in the plight of Sigmar's Age. Despite its violent birth killing our beloved Old World (for but a time!), I have found much love in the sculpts and creative freedom and ability for Games Workshop to go wild in a truly high fantasy setting. While I do prefer the more grounded Old World with its historical real world mockeries, some real gems have come from Age of Sigmar that I quite enjoy, and so many other people have found love for the game. While I will not be sad to see Age of Sigmar go, I truly I hope only for great models and fun rules for all fantasy gamers! And in this let us rejoice and write instead our grudges against the real enemy -- 40k
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>>97511779
We know the models come first, GW have confirmed as much a dozen times
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>Unironically what AoS deserved. Just sucks for the players who enjoyed it (NOT me). When they Old Yeller'd WHFB and said to play AoS instead many players just like me left the hobby (and even dropped 40k as well).

>Some of us came back for The Old World- and were eventually dragged back into 40k along with it. Still, It warms my heart to see AoS drop off a cliff. GW deserves to lose hard on it after what they did to us at the end of WHFB.

>Good riddance Age of Shitmar. Rest in Piss.
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>>97511928
Well sure, but the models still get sculpted to specific guidelines like "has to have multiple build options" or whatever, so I don't think that's very relevant in this specific case.
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Is Alarielle on the same powerlevel as Nagash?
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>>97511935
>>Some of us came back for The Old World- and were eventually dragged back into 40k along with it [...] GW deserves to lose hard on it after what they did to us at the end of WHFB.
Lel wargaming really creates a special breed of consoomer.
Anyway I know this is a baitpost and all, but this type of person is really common and it always vexes me a little. Someone who thinks of age of sigmar as some sort of entity on its own that "does" things, like for example "kill fantasy". Like they've anthropomorphized a game system and will seethe over it instead of the company making the decisions ironically I'm anthropomorphizing gw here a bit, but you know what I mean
So you'll get people like this who are mad at age of sigmar as if it is its own independent actor instead of just a system games workshop wanted to make some money off of, while being fans of (and presumably buying stuff for) the other systems sold by the exact same company. You get what I'm saying?
Like consolewars were already baffling enough but at least people were rooting for two different companies.
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>>97511992
Probably not. The thing with Natasha is that he ate multiple gods and governs the majority of shyish even while he’s…well dead.
The everqueen can’t even get kurnoth from jobbing to some fat bastards.
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>>97511992
I would say yes, if not stronger, because she's able to undo the Necroquake without the need for a giant tiny dick compensating pyramid of Realmstone.
Buuuuut she did need the Oak of Ages Past so it's kinda hard to say.
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>>97511999
I’ve said it before but it’s like someone that orders Big Macs ragging on someone that likes McNuggets. It’s hilariously pathetic.
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>>97511992
yes and no

they're both mortals who have ascended to a form of godhood, one way or another, and they're both the keystone of their respective realm to the point where they are the realm, the main differences are that alarielle is connected to a whole previous elven pantheon, which may be a hindrance or a boon, we just don't know, but more importantly nagash is aggressively expanding its power or the amount of power he has at its fingertips at any given time: he has consumed almost all other death gods, he has built a fulcrum to command the energies of death on a large scale (the pyramid) and he's been embodying his role as the embodiment of death almost to the point of it drowning his own personality and identity at some points.
alarielle is way more conservative in that approach, so it would be logical to assume she doesn't really command as much of ghyran and its energies at any given moment as much as nagash is doing, BUT it is also true that nagash has been set back in significant ways a few times (such as the defeats by archaon and by teclis), while alarielle has solidified her war aspect since the realmgate wars and the rite of life she unleashed is possibly as important as the necroquake as far as her powerbase is concerned.

I'd lean to say nagash is singlehandedly a more powerful entity because of his more aggressive and daring approach, but we're not talking about an impassable divide between them.
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>>97511999
Yeah it's pretty schizo, but we're at the midpoint of 4th and this does appear to be an objective low point for AoS, so I am a bit worried about what GW is going to do.
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>>97512068
You should be more worried about the economy.
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>>97512085
Why? I'm not a /biz/head and I have a stable job.
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>>97512032
That's pretty apt yeah. I fully understand fantasy grogs hating gw for 'killing' whfb and replacing it with aos but hating age of sigmar (and I really am talking about hating, not just a normal dislike or anything) is imo a sign of low intelligence.
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>>97511921
Is this supposed to be that Oxford professor that also runs a TOW channel?
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>>97512115
Nevermind he doesn’t say punks once
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Another Vincenzo Pratticò piece. He might get to do all the remainder battletomes at this rate. Good for him.
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>>97512123
> The face of fantasy
> Vs the face of AoS
> Some trashy dude who runs a shit TSN arena in Nottingham
AoS Sissies? Our response??
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>>97512108
Not just hating AoS with vitriol, but holding onto it for 10 years, not bothering to learn about the thing you hate and only relying on the initial impression and whatever the echo chamber says. The amount of comments with that exact tone still going around 10 years later is crazy.
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>>97512130
Oh, that fuckin rips.
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>>97511713
We have always been the most raped faction in death, they have no idea what to do with nighthaunt and they never did
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>>97511941
Except they don't
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>>97512130
>>97512156
Also, I’m glad he’s able to place the battle somewhere that isn’t a nebulous cloud of dust and vague shapes. There’s actual architecture.
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>>97512123
>>97512143
Literally who?
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>>97512115
No, he's actually based and does the only good TOW videos desu.
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>>97512130
Where did you find this?
Also, do you have the Tzeench one?
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Which would be a better choice for a tough core of a Hedonite mortal army, 2 units of 10 Painbringers, 2 units of 10 Twinsouls or 1 of each?
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>>97512297
both full books went around here yesterday, should be in the thread
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>>97512357
I don't mean the rules I wanna see the double page art
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>>97512177
He’s an Oxford professor who also runs a TOW/Fantasy YouTube channel
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>>97512351
Symbaresh are set up to be more defensively oriented, what with the ward save and reduction in number of attacks coming at them as long as they didn't charge. Symbaresh seem like the kind of unit you park on an objective and dare your oppenent to try and dislodge, whereas Myrmidesh are clearly designed to be trying to take objectives.
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>>97512393
I hate every part of this man and I've never seen him before.
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>>97512396
Yeah, I kinda like the idea of two reinforced units of Twinsouls forming the core of my army the faster, less tanky elements can operate around. The anvils of my army, I guess.
Shame, I vastly prefer how Painbringers look but oh well.
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>>97512143
>Some trashy dude who runs a shit TSN arena in Nottingham
but he is also the face of TOW
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>>97512399
His old school Chaos army is really cool IMO:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfzubTB3nvo
I think the standards being kind of 80s punk/new wave music inspired is a really great touch. It's a unique take on the melding of technology and magic Chaos used to have and actually represents the period of the miniatures.

Even though this minis are very much not the "realistic" style of today and imo a lot of them do look pretty goofy, this is one of my favourite army showcases. It is 100% an army as an expression of an individual. I think it's so cool.
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>>97512426
Take it to wfg
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>>97512433
Don't be a cunt all your life anon.
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>>97512405
I must say, I do find it somewhat weird, the more armored of the pair is the infantry spear and the less armored is the anvil. I'd have much preferred if it was the other way around.
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>>97512442
No, seriously.
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>>97512426
>His old school Chaos army is really cool IMO:
Go ride a dick.
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>>97512433
>>97512455
>>97512475
NTA but you guys will never be punk acting like that
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>>97512497
It's one guy, anon.
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>>97512514
No it’s not because I brought him up and someone else wrote the paragraphs and linked his army showcase
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Hi AoSisters

Looking to get into the hobby with my brother so we were going to buy a spearhead each. Ive heard spearhead is fun before expanding into the wider system. We're poor fags so might be spearheading for a little bit. Outside of picking what we think is cool, is it all relatively balanced? Any fun match ups
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>>97512514
It isn't.

>>97512497
Good.
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I doubt there's any official answer but is Othar considered a deathrattle or is he more of a mordant? Are there deathrattle that can float around like that?
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>>97512426
>the same horrible neon color scheme as aquarium rocks
This probably went really hard, 45 years ago.
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Isn’t punk prison slang for cocksucker
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>>97512527
*malignant not mordant so like a nighthaunt
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>>97512527
He doesn’t look like he’s in pain or oissed off so probably soulblight.
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>>97512524
It's the most fun one can have with AoS right now imo.
It's also fairly well balanced but some matchups are busted.

Go for fluffy if you want fun, so look to the lore. Daughters of Khaine vs Hedonites, Hallowed Knights painted Stormcast vs Maggotkin, Lumineth vs Bonereapers, Helsmiths vs Grots or Ironjawz (if you want a traditional Dwarves vs orcs rivalry), Overlords vs Tzeentch and so on.
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>>97512524
> is it all relatively balanced?
Kind of? the points disparity between spearheads isn't that big and because of the RNG of terrain effects, twist cards, and your battle tactics rng has a lot more say in the results so even a worse spearhead can win. That said, I don't know what factions your looking at but the new maggotkin spearhead is questionable and the new KO spearhead is terrible. I didn't do the math myself but I saw a video breakdown where that spearhead has the lowest potential combat damage of any spearhead box, being almost half of the next lowest. The old KO spearhead is considerably better so on the off chance your interested in the faction, look for the old spearhead or the box sets that let you build it.
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>>97511992
No, Nagash is +1 from incarnates for eating other gods
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>>97511400
All the 40K WAACfags are playing Guard and Necron at the moment. AoS doesn't have nearly as much of a WAAC problem as 40K does, and Tzeentch is releasing at the same time as Lumies, who are the clear pick for WAACfags. Ironically, having gone over both tomes pretty thoroughly at this point, I feel like Tzeentch has the potential to be more oppressive, but the key difference is the army doesn't play itself, and there's way more room for skill expression and interactivity; Tzeentch is the army for people who play AoS for 300 IQ, you just activated my trap card, just according to keikaku moments, whereas Lumies are for the (now grown-up) annoying fat kid who kept pulling new powers out of his ass during recess. My point being, I wouldn't worry about this thing selling out if you need to wait a week or two for a paycheck.

>>97511558
>lumineth looks like a sidegrade
Vanari, Scinari, and Eltharion is all you need.
>the broken eltharion ability
"Broken" somehow feels like an understatement. It's one of those rare instances where there's an argument to be made for a tier above S-tier, because he would still be auto-include if you could only use it once per game, or had to roll a +3 to do it.
>they gained new tools which are fun
"Fun?" Lumie players will probably struggle to find games outside of events, and at events people are going to look at you like "you could've been anything, and yet you chose to be a faggot."
>their casting is far less reliable now
And yet, still very reliable. You've still got Teclis, you've still got foot wizards that are priced to move, and the unlimited spell from Lore of Hysh is good in a vacuum, let alone after it gets added to the layers upon layers of buffs you can stack.

>>97511713
It isn't favoritism so much as it took the game designers over a year to figure out what the actual fuck they were doing. It's not just your ghosts, it's anything that was released before Hashut, with the possible exception of Skaven.
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What's with all the literal-who shilling lately?
Did normies remembered 4cuck exists after the Epstein fucking Moot thing and decided to link their youtube here?
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>>97512608
>Did normies remembered 4cuck exists after the Epstein fucking Moot thing and decided to link their youtube here?
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>>97512527
he's a wight king
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>>97512608
>What's with all the literal-who shilling lately?
Honestly don’t know. I thought the only type to like YouTube faces are children and decrepit boomers.
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>>97512631
Moot is in the files. Ep groomed him and people think /pol/ was made on his order as containment for antisemitism
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>>97512608
Distraction from the fact that James Workshop was in the Epstein Files.
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>>97512527
Mordants are mortal FEC
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>>97512426
pretty embarrassing glazing anon

>>97511999
for me the main thing is that grogs reallyyyyy intellectualise old world, as if 'Egypt but fantasy' is some type of nuanced concept lol
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>>97512710
>pretty embarrassing glazing anon
I just like the army. I think a lot of people into wargames as a hobby, especially GW stuff, do have a kind of nascent childhood feeling as part of their enjoyment. Like I was probably about 10 when I first encountered Warhammer? And this guy has like completed the army of his childhood but informed by his adult self. I think it owns. I think a ton of people would have a version of this they could conceivably collect and they would all be very personal and look totally different.
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>>97512749
>I just like the army
By all your positng it looks like you realy like his cock in your throat
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>>97512776
Bro I get you have a grudge here or are just trying to piss someone else off, but I think completing a project like that is cool. You can't make me think it isn't cool.
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>>97510723
You need to stop going to Balkan gay bars
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>>97510286
If you know the artist you can usually find it on their artstation
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>>97512835
>if you know the artist
That’s the issue
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>>97512835
GW doesn't credit after Duncan got famous and left
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>>97512846
It was actually after the Matt Ward death threats.
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>>97512527
his legs are just really skinny you can't see them from most angles
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>>97512527
He's definitely deathrattle but idk why GW decided to make him float
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>>97512667
Been a hot minute since I’ve seen this dude.
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>>97512710
>>97512749
Most of his video are TOW related BUT not all. His latest video is a great topic discussing the sacred gaming room for wargamers. It covers everyone from Warhammer players to model train enthusiasts in relevant subject matter. It’s only 34 minutes, I can highly recommend him as background listening while hobbying
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I’ve got like 30 Vindictors. What do you do to make them good in today’s AOS?
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>>97512943
The physical model resides inside a man's colon now
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>>97512960
Throw them in your opponent's face all at once
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>jade obelisks are getting scalped on ebay
fug. I knew I should have grabbed another kit.
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>pestigors are a horde unit
>monopose
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>>97513080
mix 'n match with the ones in darkwater :^)
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>>97512399
Let me guess: uneducated poorfag?
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>>97513080
Would it make you feel better if you could slightly repose the arms
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>>97513047
Did they even surive into the 4th tome
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>>97513259
They're in there.
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>>97512130
>Zaitrec gallery
So that's why they painted the new vanari fellow like that.
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Does anyone know why GW is removing ranged weapon profiles for what feels like every non-dedicated ranged unit? What would make writers thing "Boy, we should remove weapon profiles from units who have had them since AoS launched!"
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>>97513313
Unfortunate
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>>97513313
If only the spawn model didn't look so shite.
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>>97512297
There's also a tzeentch one.
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>>97513388
Oh shit, I think they're attacking Settler's Gain.
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>>97513393
Lmao.
Good.
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>>97513369
Again, if you want a better one, just get a glob of greenstuff and whip it into your bits box.
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>>97513339
Streamlining to reach a wider modern audience
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>>97513259
>GW keeps jade obelisk in the battletome
>Tzeentch gets an Arcanite focused AoR and jade obelisk are the only other arcanite unite besides Kairics
>Instead of putting them in the new spearhead box, GW does the obvious bad thing of yet another tzaangor box
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>>97513339
I don't know but I hate it. Kairos and lord of change losing their ranged attacks for no reason feels lame. They're the big strong units in the magic faction, they should have arguably better ranged attacks than melee. It doesn't feel like they're doing it to lean into specific roles, it just feels like a nerf to make those units weaker.
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>>97513794
>Kairos and lord of change losing their ranged attacks for no reason feels lame.
These actually make sense.
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>>97513339
Wait what?
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>>97511713
You get to ignore key aspects of the game. Cry harder.
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>>97512941
His legs ran off to play Blood Bowl
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>>97513773
>another tzaangor box
Name 1 other Tzaabgor box
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>>97514197
Tzaangors in every box is more of a 40k meme, but they've obviously been in quite a few battleforces and stuff over the years. There was one with a lord of change that I remember, and another all infantry type battleforce that was just like 20 kairics and 20 tzaangors and some other bullshit thrown in.
They weren't in the old start collecting though, I remember that.
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>>97513794
Ah, but it's a change, and likely to be a transient one, so it's on flavor!
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Hey guys, coming back to the game after taking a break around 2021, so late 2nd and very early 3rd edition. I haven't had any games yet but from what I understand 4th is pretty divisive. How are idoneth and gloomspite doing these days? From lurking the last few threads it seems they've already had their tomes but this is actually a negative as the early tomes were quite boring? Is that an overreaction or are they really quite dull atm?
Also from what I can see gits got a wolf rider expansion while idk seems to have had some extra heroes, is that right?
Thanks guys.
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>>97513388
>>97512130
has he done other pieces?
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>>97514459
Same artist?
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>>97514448
4th is a dumpster fire. There is hope that the new loomie and Tzeentch books are actually good. But otherwise 4th is in a dire state and it has never been less enjoyable to play AoS. Stick to spearhead imo.
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>>97514459
That Cardinal has an insane Metal album cover aura
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Why is the Warpflame Cavalcade such a good deal in terms of savings? I don't trust it...
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>>97514613
gw wants you to get into tzeentch now

huge expansion one and a half years from now
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hab den jetzt
voll cool
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>>97514613
I don't know, but I have already consuuuuumed :( deal was too good to miss
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>>97514613
It's an unpopular army, getting you into the army for cheap seems logical for gw. Same reason the "new" idk spearhead was amazing value.
That being said I do expect part of the range to get refreshed relatively soon, pink horrors for example are from 2010 or something.
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>>97514647
>huge expansion one and a half years from now
One can hope...
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>>97514613
Every model other than blue/brim nad LoC will b remade in a few years when they squat Demon of Chaos from 40k
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>>97514707
>Worrying about future editions
>Not playing the best edition (2nd) and basing all your models for backwards compatibility in 40k (25mm bases and such)
Only your self to blame Pay Piggy
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>>97514613
you can get everything that's outside the square for 20€ less than everything inside the square

I think they split the range in ~400€ halves to push people to get in with the deal and then spend the rest on the heroes
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>>97514709
Not a 40k thread retard. They could squt all of it for all i care
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>>97514718
>think they split the range in ~400€ halves to push people to get in with the deal and then spend the rest on the heroes
Makes sense. I'm kinda lucky though since the only heroes I want are the Cursling and Ogroid Thaumaturge plus maybe a Fluxmaster or 2.
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>>97514720
>Not a 40k thread retard. They could squt all of it for all i care
You aren't playing 2nd edition AoS and are keeping up with the unfun slop releases of AoS. I see only one retard here :^)
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Would any kind Anon share the full scan of the Maggotkin battletome?
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>>97514751
2nd edition is fun but you do need some house rules to stop people using a lot of the bullshit present in that edition. But if you're playing older editions that's usually not a problem anyway because it's kind of understood from the get go not to use whatever broken bullshit you can (unless agreed upon by both parties)
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>>97514779
>But if you're playing older editions that's usually not a problem anyway because it's kind of understood from the get go not to use whatever broken bullshit you can (unless agreed upon by both parties)
Exactly. We've play 2nd for so long we've got a list of gentlemen's agreements lol but it's actually not that bad, I don't play with WAACfags or anything so we rarely use busted bullshit on purpose.
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>>97514771
https://files.catbox.moe/crapee.pdf
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>>97514787
That art is hot.
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Are we winning yet...
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>>97514840
we would be winning if you werent in this thread.
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>>97514841
Peace and love, anon <3
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>>97514840
Soon brother. Soon.
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>>97514840
Any day now, I'm sure.
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>>97514840
it's almost 7 years since the first kurnothi
it's almost 5 years since the rite of life
it's almost 3 years since the first thorn
it's almost 1 year since the last kurnothi
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>>97514854
We are due a full army release by this point :(
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>>97514854
So more kurnothi next year clearly. sylvaneth vs umbraneth starter set, here wo go
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>>97514862
>sylvaneth vs umbraneth starter set, here wo go
ROPES OF CUM
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The new Lumineth battle trait is very cool, but it's a lot to keep in your head. It's kind of like the whole space marine assault devastator whatever honestly, but with a lot more flexibility. I think it is neat how the easiest way to track this is going to be actually writing down the runes as you go.
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>>97514867
Man actually this seems really tough to play into. You can do so much buffing and tons of movement debuffing. I guess it's theoretically high skill ceiling? But I'm pretty sure Teclis/archer spam will still as good as it has been historically.

You can really amp up any Lumineth unit defensively, and a lot of them are still really fast, and you can debuff enemy units very well. IDK man! I guess they aren't that good into strong shooting armies?? This seems pretty wretched to play into if you don't have good shooting.
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>>97514459
This dude is good and reminds me of Thomas Elliott. I wished the had gotten someone as good for the battletome covers too.
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>first marshal sold out
Guess I’ll have to check and see if my lgs is getting any
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>>97514985
>first marshal
Who?
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Please be good :(
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>>97515009
it has no chance of being good because the character has no room for flaws
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>>97514987
The new tahlia book I assume.
Was the first any good?
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>>97508906
why do you not have it anymore?
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>>97515013
ok buddy
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>>97515009
>Evan Dicken
It's honestly a toss of a coin with him. Some of his stories are fucking trash, some are really good.
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It's amazing looking at how good the Lumineth tome is compared to how bad the Deepkin tome was. Like strictly better design across the board.
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>>97515055
lumineth has a larger range of models, it's a more sensitive product gw has more interests with
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>>97515055
Explain.
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>>97515009
I liked the first book and the Maleneth book so i have high hopes-
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I’m just impressed how every hero for tzeentch was made to be useful. Even the foot hero’s.
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>>97515055
Meanwhile in Tzeentch:
>you lost one of the strongest dice-fixing mechanics that has ever been implemented in Warhammer for a mechanic that rewards you only when you're getting your ass beat
[cope voice] just... as... planned...
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>>97515073
In general although I dislike how they've changed Tzeentch's basic trait I think both of these tomes are much better designed than some we had earlier in 4e. I do not understand the autistic fixation on lack of interesting things, complexity and detail that was so common at the start of 4th. I think the corner was only starting to turned for me with the Khorne book with that herohammer army that was both fun and thematic and not a complete mechanical mess.

There were so many tome refreshes that were a total loss just because it felt like the designers couldn't be bothered putting in effort.
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>>97515055
yea also comparing it to shit like soulblight and nighthaunt, like nighthaunt just got nerfed down to dust after their tome, and soulblight has got so much wholly within shit and hoops to jump through to get a decent punch into your opponent, its annoying as hell

but then lumineth out here with literally every buff at their fingertips and mega game control over spells n shit also eltharion to make the game utlra easy mode. (imo positioning units is a good 80% of the skill of this game and eltharion can just teleport to whereever he is needed whenever)

i am hoping (ultra coping) that they on-boarded some new game design staff right before doing the tzeentch and lumineth books because the favoritism is pretty extreme if they just think lumineth just deserve these types of rules
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YouTube videos about AoS dying are flaring up again.
Did something happen?
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>>97515055
GW just doesn't care about Deepkin. Their small range hasn't meaningfully changed since release so every battletome they do get just shuffles things around slightly and then tells you to spam Eeels like you were already doing.

The 4E tome was actually the biggest departure they've had from their original rules but in a negative way, almost everything is worse.
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>>97515210
The Canadian hobby shop guys who usually make TOW AoS is dying fags made a video admitting their sales are way down for 4th.
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wheres the "lumineth dont embody chinese designs" guy.
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>>97515210
rent is due, january is a bad month for youtubers because all the corpo ad money is spent for christmas break
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>>97515190
The designers literally do seem to believe:
>Lumineth should have really strong rules
>Lumineth rules should focus on NPE for your opponent
Getting your movement halved and then -2 movement on top of that is fucking horrible, especially while being pinged to death by spell mortals. Eltharion's thing is definitely going to need nerfed, it was busted in Ynnari and will be busted here.
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>>97515220
Lumineth are a stand in for every culture east of Germany
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>>97515335
I really don't like nagash's model or design beyond the ridiculously tall hat
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Going to be crazy when Umbraneth finally roll around and Lumineth have already taken so many animals as figureheads they get stock with cocker spaniels or something.
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>>97515220
That's the horse elwmental btw
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>>97515215
>just shuffles things around slightly and then tells you to spam Eeels like you were already doing.
Lmao this rings true. The disconnect between mathaela's fluff and rules is a hilarious example.
>>97515220
So we have a "lumineth aren't asian" guy and a "lumineth aren't greek" guy. What's next I wonder.
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>>97515343
Just base them on plants, like moor/arab art becauae animal motifs are banned
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>>97515343
they just have to take dragons, it's not difficult
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>>97515356
Arabesque dark elves would go hard desu.
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>>97515009
well it sold out quickly enough even before the SoB special edition book but that could mean GW just didn't print enough copies of the hardback
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They’re turning dark elves into a hybrid of cowboy pirates to reminisce on their American roots in whfb. You’ll get a six shooter aelf riding a skink into battle.
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>>97515392
dark elves adopting guns wouldn't be a terrible turn of events, as long as the guns are elaborate enough
but the skink part is just a shameful kink
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>>97515392
>dragongirl cowgirls riding dinosaurs
Sounds good sign me up.
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>>97515392
Cosairs were already that
shades were grimdark elf rednecks
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I cracked the code, guys
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can someone share sand and bone spearhead pdf?
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>>97514840
I'm roughly 50%wr when I play the evergreen hunt so I'd say it's fine.
You should try actually playing the game; maybe you'd feel better
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>>97515426
Don't waste plastic
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>>97515426
Sen's/Fortress
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what would you choose for next army (i play STD already)
-FEC
-Helsmiths
-Sylvaneth
-
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>>97515577
me personally FEC I guess considering I already have sylvaneth.
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>>97515009
>imperial guard
>good
pick one
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>>97515220
ah yes, this barely visible background dragon that's vaguely chinese looking. Do they ride those chinese style dragons? Oh right, they ride kangaroo/horse/bulls. You'd have more of an arguement that they're australian.
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>>97515608
they also ride clouds
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>>97515343
They'll have hydras ,dragons and smoke effects
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>>97515073
From a warscroll perspective, the new battletome is a big improvement, it's nice to see. Kairos is still the auto take and the lord of change nearly an auto take after but at least now if you opt for other heros it won't feel like your just gimping yourself.
>>97515083
>a mechanic that rewards you only when you're getting your ass beat
and the reward is so much worse too. You get singular points to add to any given roll so unlike before where you would just put down a fate dice with 6, you now need to accumulate 6 fate points for the same effect. Fate points you don't start with, and you'll be averaging only 15-20 FP per game, assuming your taking the worse traits that help you generate more fate points. The worst part about this is I don't even really mind that the overal effect is worse, I just hate that you don't interact with the mechanic unless your losing. Objectively unfun design that only serves to mitigate losses and objectively worse than any mechanic that you can use right away to start winning. I thought Fate dice were kind of boring but fate points are just sad.
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>>97515220
>"lumineth dont embody chinese designs"
He isn't completely wrong, but for different reason.
LRL emoby chinese designs as much as they embody greeks, badly.
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>>97514613
I don't care I've just wanted an all daemon box for years so I immediately bought two
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>>97515577
PrEP
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>>97514613
pink horrors and flamers are arguably do for a refresh, but otherwise it's just a solid box. Also it's most of the tzeentch range so they didn't have many other choices of things to put in there besides tzaangor and kairics, both of which are in spearhead boxes already.
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Gentlemen its almost time.

Pour one our for our Beastbros, may they find better fortunes in The Old World ;_;7
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>HALLOWHEART HAS FALLEN
HALLOWHEART HAS FALLEN
>HALLOWHEART HAS FALLEN
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>>97515577
Helsmiths are really cool, but they have a similair vibe and their core mechanic is kind of like STD's but worse. I'd go sylvaneth for the variety.
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>>97515711
>almost time
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>>97515712
From the sound of it it's still hanging in there but the birdbrains made it suck a lot more.
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If you wanna see some new tzeench vs lumie, these guys put up a bat rep.

Tzeench movement tricks seems very strong. But also annoying to play as you have to lift and switch units alot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWMeeKzqWd0
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>>97515712
>anvilgard: dead
>phoenicium: dead
>hallowheart: dead
>tempest eye: almost dead
>living city: the trees are talking
>greywater: next on abraxia's list
>hammerhal: the only place that matters
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>>97515339
That's because outside of being centrepiece his model doesn't work as "leader of the faction".
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Do sylvaneth fight with idk for submerged forests?
I recall the everqueen being the first to find out about idk after some time but I don’t recall the rest.
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>>97515736
I'm convinced it's all just to make their abhorrent CoS update actually make sense visually since the new cities will be cobbled together piles of trash
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>>97515751
The only interaction I remember is them discovering eachother and basically just deciding to try and avoid eachother for the most part. But there's a decent chance that story never happened or I'm misremembering it
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>>97515759
that makes no sense, hammerhal is staying and the new designs are arguably hammerhal-centric if anything
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>>97515766
So damn true! He looks right at home here
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>>97515781
Well yeah guardsman near the hive-city
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>>97515763
They have been allied for centuries, in 2nd edition they had a special army list called "The forces of land and sea" that was half deepkin half sylvaneth.
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When does the webstore refresh in Clapistan, do we have any battletome leaks for DoT yet, and can a dude get some more Tzeentch(AoS/Fantasy specifically) reaction images than just this one?
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>>97515817
I was about to ask what time EST it goes up.
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>>97515817
The whole tome is leaked further up in the thread I think.
And there are batreps on youtube with the new tomes
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>>97515826
I think you meant maggotkin.
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>>97515844
no, tzeench and lumies

Here
https://www.reddit.com/user/InevitableCat2287/submitted/
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>>97515854
Thank you good sir. I can make do with the anvil of apotheosis for now. Me and a couple friends are going to do a home grown campaign.
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>>97515861
Wait never mind. I didn't know there were more. I don't go to reddit much. Apologies
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>>97515636
15-20 FP is still a good amount. This kind of design can work, but I think it's more thematic with like SoB where it's both a stronger effect and plays into the martyrdom thing. I guess here the intent is to signify that an event which seems in your opponent's favour was in fact just the intention of Tzeentch all along.

I do think the charge on 9+ subfaction is better than it looks with FP in play.
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Do you say 'effeeesee' or 'feck'?
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>>97515916
most people i know say 'feck'
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>>97515781
this is what the city looks like past the gate and before the acropolis
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>>97515921
>most people i know say 'feck'
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>>97515916
fec
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>>97515916
Fec off feccot
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I hope the mawtribes revamp has a big soda theme and that becomes their new gimmick
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>>97516102
Yep, Coke vs Pepsi subfaction with Dr.Peper in White Dwarf
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>>97516102
In the new fluff all the ogors are actually as skinny as gorgers but they drink so much soda that they're constantly bloated. The gutplates are to make sure they don't get hit too hard in the stomach and forcefully burp out all of their stored carbonation
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>>97516102
There's bound to be somewhere in chamon where the right mix of elements made a soda lake
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>>97516124
>firebelly ignites all of the CO2 stored inside him in 1 spicy burp
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Why was this a thing again?
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Now that the dust has settled, why did Tzeentch not flop while HoH did (there are more fomo HoH army boxes available online than tzeentch battleforces)
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>>97516245
Was it?
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>>97516263
Because I can paint pink without everyone assuming I'm homosexual
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>>97516245
something something skulls can bloom in the battlefield.

I really hope whenever she gets her malgamation in aos she ditches the conehead.
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>>97516245
lexicanum said he killed a different stormcast over a disagreement and valkia got wet at the display of violent dominance
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>>97516263
I am upset because I asked here yesterday or two days ago about how likely this was to be an instant sellout and multiple people said probably no need to rush.
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So why is the new tzeench box already sold out? I though it was the 40keks buying them all but their space marine tzeench box is still available.
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>>97516353
It works for 3 different games, (AoS, 40k and TOW) and it's actually a really good value unlike most battleforces.
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>>97516353
It's a pretty insane value
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The battleforce will restock just like the Christmas boxes did.
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>>97516386
Maybe. If it was a normal battleforce then yes. I highly suspect the Tzeentch battleforce is them clearing old stock for a refresh next edition. So I am wary of the trap.
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>>97516394
unless if its a whole range refresh its not that bad
and even if it is they wouldn't refresh a LoC or Blue Horrors
everything else is just extra
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>>97516417
I don't trust GW after seeing what they did to GK players last year offering a battleforce and spearhead that contains nothing but models that will be replaced in 11th edition.
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New trivia pertaining to Oultrai and Aurathrai: they are considered the homelands of the River and Zenith temples, respectively. Same as how Ymetrica is considered the home of the Mountain temple. It's a small thing but it's notable because of how little has been said about those two continents.
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>>97516450
Didn't we already know this?
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>>97516353
I like daemons besides slaanesh
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>>97516540
I’m actually curious if they’ll do the same battleforce for slaanesh. Probably not.
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Kinda wish if they made kits less customizable they would at least do what that one high elf kit did, and just have the entire body already assembled and leave the arms up to me to glue.
The new marauders do not spark joy upon looking at their sprue and instructions.
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>>97516847
Someone somewhere calculated that 5mm thiner box lets you save money on shiping which resulted in models being awkwardly cut in half to fit in the smaller box
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Huh.
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>>97515736
>>anvilgard: dead
*improved
FTFY
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>>97516919
Crossover episode
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>>97516919
I’m losing my shit, they really boggified the elves to be chads.
Also featuring cado.
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Some fallout from Arcane Cataclysm

>THE WAR OF SHAME
>When the Many Tombs of Sarandua in the land of Iliatha are breached, it triggers a ferocious war of sorcery between the Lumineth and the worshippers of Tzeentch. The cultists seek the forbidden devices that have been ensconced in sacred sites ever since the Spirefall. The lands around Tor Kitise become thronged with cult demagogues, arcanists and magisters hell-bent on unleashing these ancient artefacts. At the Sanctum of Elucidum, Fatemaster Sykoreth, the Unholy Vizard, attempts to sunder the wards of radiance around the vault. His prize is the Arch-Pendulum of Thalventir, with which he plans to attack the city. Loreseeker Vethial and a phalanx of Iliathan simulacra succeed in stopping him, but the end of the war is nowhere in sight.
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>>97516946
Horse faced twins
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>>97516919
What in the goddamn did Avocado Eczema do to be cursed with that hairline?
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Can someone post the Zaitrec gallery in the codex sounds cool
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>>97517027
The real soulblight was the curse of the Norwood reaper.
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>>97517046
It's just models painted red and gold.
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>>97517027
I guess he was from Manfred liniage after all
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>>97516933
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>>97516394
>>97516443
This is literally the only reason I'm not starting Tzeentch right now; I've dealt with the faggotry of GW long enough to know that a deal as good as that battleforce is practically confirmation of a major release wave with the next battletome.

>>97517119
That reminds me, I have a random question for anyone who plays CoS; does the steelhelm kit come with enough options to have all dudes, or are you required to put a chick in it, and make her gay and lame?
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>>97517184
>does the steelhelm kit come with enough options to have all dudes, or are you required to put a chick in it, and make her gay and lame?
All the CoS kits give you an absurd number of heads/helmets. You're not forced into anything.
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>>97516919
They should get Henry Cavil to make a !Witcher series for him
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Hmmm…to paint a treelord or finish my sacrosanct stormcast.
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>>97517496
>Sacrosanct
Man I miss the dracolines
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>>97517539
Same. They were cute. I kinda wish CoS had something like them.
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The writers excused the conspicuous absence of Ydrilan spirits from the army.

>Unlike the other temples of the aelementiri, the Ydrilan do not currently venture into battle alongside their native elemental spirits. The war-forms of the river have proved difficult to ally with even in favourable circumstances, for they cannot be entreated through patience and contrition like those of the mountain nor can they be tricked or cajoled like those of the air. A river spirit demands surrender to its will and flow of its supplicants, but there is an even greater impediment to their incarnation. The blight of Chaos contamination is so thorough and pervasive that many of these spirits are beyond communion. They suffer so heinously, they can only express their torment through devastating inundations or reckless torrents. The Ydrilan toil tirelessly to cleanse these spirits and bring them back to cogency, but the resurgence of the Skaven, polluting rivers and streams with warpstone, and the Maggotkin's recent efforts to taint the waterways with their plague mills have made this task more difficult. Yet, the effort of revivification continues and there is hope that the greater spirits of the temple might yet be restored.
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>>97515781
I do miss the art deco and general bigness of stuff.
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>>97517658
>Yet, the effort of revivification continues and there is hope that the greater spirits of the temple might yet be restored.
Translation, we're keeping these in our pocket until the idea bucket runs dry.
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>>97516933
This
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>>97515736
Are they ever planning on introducing new cities or are they just going to kill em off to show that this or that big bad faction is the real deal? I feel like the twin-tailed crusade was supposed to do that but embergard got blown up immediately and verdigris was forgotten equally fast.
>>97517729
Same as it ever was innit
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>>97517658
If Lumineth get a big fish water monster I think every Idoneth player would kill themselves on the spot
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>>97517899
The one river spirit we know about is Daxio Whitecrest and it looks equine rather than piscine.
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>>97517907
Right, it matches up with the River Guys having horse helmet crests as well.
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>>97517907
Yeah, but it would be funny if Idoneth become the 2nd fish elf faction because James Workshop loves Lumineth more
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>>97517925
I guess it could be a seahorse. Or riverhorse in this instance.
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>>97517927
>riverhorse
Lumineth hippo riders incoming
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>>97517927
It's probably more like a Hippocampus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocampus_(mythology)
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>>97517933
We need crocodile riders to go with the kangaroos. The full Aussification of lumineth cannot be stopped
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>>97517952
They're already committed to the horse motif, like it or not. And for a while now it's felt like the AoS team has been restraining itself from putting any design ideas into production if they could be deemed too outlandish.
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What's DoK wave 2 going to bring?
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>>97518045
A wave sort of similar to what khadrons got. Does the faction actually even have faction terrain?
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>>97515009
I just hope for some HOH POV
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I never noticed the new dice for tzeentch and lrl. They look nice. Although tzeentch really is not beating the cotton candy allegations.
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>>97518072
They look tasty.
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They look not bad.
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>>97517986
>it's felt like the AoS team has been restraining itself from putting any design ideas into production if they could be deemed too outlandish
is that why everything has bullhorns now?
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>>97518076
nice colors but it's a bit bright and cute for me
>>97518079
literally anything would have been better than their old dice
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>>97518088
I have these. Took my LRL to the RTT and 0-3'd like usual but they feel so nice to roll.
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>>97518088
Those are aesthetic.
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>>97518052
No faction terrain.
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>>97517184
You don't have enough helmeted male heads for all models, if you want all men then some must be without helmets
priest aside
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>>97518088
These might suck to actually use idk but they are so unbelievably SOVL
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>>97518088
I would prefer they make weird shit like this and the squig dice you can get generic dice anywhere
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>>97518277
I'd fuck and cum inside someone for a cool pair of themed dice for even a single army in each GA.
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>>97518187
>>97518092
They don't suck.
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>>97518335
They look like they'd be a pain in the ass to read though. Reminds me of that one idoneth (?) dice set that was like clear with blue waves or whatever for numbers. Horrible.
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>>97518346
They're actually very clear to read. As you can see the pips are far from the borders and any sane person would tell you skulls are 1 and Alaithi is 6. But even on these, the 1 being skull is further evidenced by the number placement.
Alaithi
3 5
2 4
1
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>>97518349
I wrote 1 instead of skull...
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>>97518349
It's more the adjacent sides being visible like that, feels like it could throw you off on a glance y'know what I mean? But yeah never seen em in action so I'll take your word for it
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>>97514787
Than you Anon



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