VS edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97508283 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Tzeentch or Lumineth?https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJad33Mg3
OBR when?
>>97518906569600 seconds
>>97518932i am excited for the new lore on the bone boys.
>>97518962I hate that they seemingly put all the overarching lore into battletomes these days. Why do I have to read every battletome if I want to know how the hour of ruin is going?where are the massive campaign/lore books of the olden days?
>>97518976>book has actual new content >this is somehow bad
>>97518998Battletomes are for worldbuilding and recaps of past stuff Campaign books are for developments and ongoing stuff
>>97519003this guy gets it.good to see there are some people with functioning brains left.
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>>97519049Why are they obese?
>>97519063Heavy amour
>>97519049Link the hd at least
>>97519063they ate 40kg of power armour and developed marine cancer
5th edition Starter Set faction, I'm certain of it.
can someone share sand and bone book?
>>97519305What do you want from it? The only things in there are the spearhead rules and the 4 new armies, both of which you can find for free on the website.
Eagerly waiting for the lumineth book to be scanned.
As a one of last losers still playing Tzeentch, my favourite Chaos god, I have to admit I am beyond sad that we once again get nothing.What is tragicomic is that GW knows how do scuplt Tzeentch (Ephilim) but for some reason Tzeentch is the forgotten faction. Especially when compared to other Chaos factions.We need demon refresh (pink horrors, flamers). We need chaos warrior, chosen, knights type of units for Tzeentch. Named heroes. Yet in 5th edition, we will get a fucking generic foot hero once more.
>>97519635slaanesh got their due, nurgle got their due, khorne is next (end-campaign wave+5th edition small wave less than a year later), then it's tzeentch (big 5th ed wave)trust the planno demons btw
>>97519651NTA but both Boole and Whitefang cofirmed no Khorne until 5th edition. Likewise, both confirmed that Slaanesh will get a foot hero this edition and nothing more. So that means Hedonites got just a foot hero in both 3ed and 4ed. They are going to get a larger release in 5th edition. Especially if it is elf centred as leakers are impying.
>>97518894>tqIn theory I like tzeentch more but in practice loomies have the better range atm. I feel like I could cobble together a lumineth army with the units I actually like and have a decent amount of choices. I can't really say the same for tzeentch atm. Also am I blind or do they not have the sphiranx and the vortex beast? Why? Especially the latter why the fuck is that a StD unit instead?>>97519635>>97519651Yeah tzeentch got some stuff in early aos but hasn't gotten much since. Few years after that slaanesh got their massive refresh and now nurgle recently, so now tzeentch and khorne are due more stuff. Khorne will probably get some stuff when they do khull and whatnot, so I think it's pretty likely we'll see tzeentch get some attention in 5th. Idk how they're doing in 40k but it's been a while since the tzeentch guys got anything substantial there too right?
>>97519651Khorne already has tons of units from 1ed for fuck sake. Why more?I get they will get demon prince Khul.Why no demons?
>>97519761>Why more?alot of it needs refreshes. At least the endtimes stuff like juggernaunts and the chaff. Kinda crazy nurgle got the pusgoyles into second edition and khorne has just gotten pity heros and a warcry band. after 1e.
>>97519749>They are going to get a larger release in 5th edition.no, they aren't, they aren't getting anything more for a long time
>>97519761>Why more?same reason as stormcasts: the 1st ed releases sucked and tainted aos' reputation
>>97519758Please see >>97519761Khorne has tons of stuff from 1ed. Maybe some unit refresh and Khul.Nurgle now has the largest range. Skaven will get Eshin wave 4th and then Pestilens later (Boole and Whitefang confirmed).I think Tzeentch and Slaanesh will get love in 5th.Maybe something for Hashut too.
>>97519749>NTA but both Boole and Whitefang cofirmed no Khorne until 5th edition.Not really right? Whitefang said "later than you would like" back in june last year, and the Reformation guy just said "soon" a few months ago. Although I think the latter still needs to be corroborated by some reveals to be considered a proper leaker.As for slaanesh they got their big release waves in 2nd edition, a few years after the other gods. They're good for a while I think, maybe a smaller drop like obr just had to refresh daemonettes and the like. But they feel like they've got a relatively solid range atm, could always use more of course but not that pressing.
>>97519772NTA but you are very naive if you think GW will give HoS another hero for 5th edition.
If they make the blissbarbs etb then i'll buy into slaanesh.
>>97519635Not to rub salt in your wounds but as Nurgle fan in both AoS (and we got stuff in WHFB) and 40k, it is surreal how much more love Nurgle gets compared to Tzeentch. Sounds like that theory of Nurgle being favorite of several lead desingers is true.
>>97519795Right, just like they did with Tzeentch for three editions in a row.
>>97519823erm, tzeentch got a warcry band. tyvm. Also I think the tzaangor on discs were 2nd edition.
>>97519823Jade Obelisk, bro.Slaanesh never got Warcry warband.
Its a fair bit I guess.
>>97519828>tzaangor on discs were 2nd editionNo, they were part of the initial release during first edition.
>>97519849I wonder what the reaction to them was like at the time.
Each aelf faction opposes one of the four chaos gods in particular, right?>Lumineth against Tzeentch>Sylvaneth against Nurgle>Khainites against Khorne>Idoneth against Slaanesh Does that sound about right? Not sure about the last two.
>>97519863DoK and Khorne have obvious overlap, but no real interaction.Deepkin don't realy give a fuck about Chaos. Teclis is a bigger villain for wanting to genocide them than Slaan for making them retarded
>>97519863only nurgle and sylvaneth have a special relation the other elves all oppose slaanesh the most
>>97519860Honestly, tzaangors were the models that got me into DoT. I always liked marked beastmen and tzaangors were the only plastic one at that time. Still love the models and wouldn't mind more new bird-goats. Although chaos warriors of Tzeentch would be more preferable for sure.
>>97519863Eh like the other guys said it's really only sylvaneth that have an actual rivalry with a chaos god besides slaanesh. There's obvious thematic ties between lumineth/tzeentch and DoK/khorne but nothing really substantial lorewise, where they're all tied way more to slaanesh. I'd say DoK even more so than idoneth despite your list.It'd be cool to explore those parallels a bit more, because as with sylvaneth/nurgle the thematic overlap is there.Only exception ironically is idoneth, who despite being very tied to the whole slaanesh plot with their soul gimmick aren't all *that* close thematically, again way less than DoK for example.I think maybe I remember one of their tomes does mention something about the depths of the ocean dulling their senses? Something like that?
still think its funny how morathi is the only one handling the rat invasion well.
>>97520010lizards and ossiarchs had preemptive measureswhat did the worm mutant do?
>>97519003Nope. The Duardin books have been furthering the narrative of reunification and Chorfs. They constantly react to new releases with momentous narrative swings
Which Chaos god does GW hate the most and why is it Tzeentch?>Oops, all Tzaangors for every box>No Warriors, Knights, Chosen, or any equivalents>No named character models other than Kairos>The only god to lose his most favored mortal to a generic character modelSeriously, why does GW treat Tzeentch so poorly?
>>97520159it's not that they hate it, it's that they have no idea on how to do it wellif they hate something it's slaanesh because it's a relic of a different time and it doesn't sell regardless of what they do
>>97520159>The only god to lose his most favored mortal to a generic character modelUnironically this was the best thing to do for the character. Vlitch is a glup shitto and is less one of his favored playthings but the only featured one he really had in fantasy besides…I guess hellbrass? I dunno.
gaunt summoners SHOULD technically be named characters, but again that’s a demon.
>>97520178same with the cancerborn.
>>97520168From what I can see they've done every other god faction fairly well. Nurgle knocks it out of the park with just about every model in the range. Khorne is boring but at least has the theme of big berserking brutes, but I do think they could use more traditionally armored models instead of half naked crack heads. Slaanesh I actually think is fairly well done now. The mortals all look really good and the army as a whole sticks to the theme of sensuality and artistry pretty well. The daemonettes absolutely should be sexier and I think they've shied away from that part of Slaanesh too much, but I appreciate the introduction of other aspects of hedonism like gluttony and fucked up musical instruments made out of people. Really the only bad part is the design of the DaemonettesTzeentch just seems like a total afterthought. It's just birds. He's supposed to be the Changer of Ways yet has no interesting mutations on any of his models. He's just all daemons and beastmen with a couple of human models mixed in. GW can't pull any inspiration from old art and designs? Give him some kind of Chaos Forsaken, or pull from Age of Reckoning. Enough with the fucking birds.
>>97520168Does Slaanesh in AoS and 40k really sells that bad?
>>97520159>Oops, all Tzaangors for every box40cuck detected opinion rejected
>>97514787>https://files.catbox.moe/crapee.pdfBountiful buboes upon ye
>>97520216At least Tzeentch has some pretty decent looking birds, instead of the turds that are almost the entire Khorne mortals range.But, yeah, where the fuck are the tzeentch warriors? And I certainly wouldn't mind more outlandish stuff, and a generous helping of body horror mutations.
>>97520175aside from a few named lords of change and helbrass, they have redone the changeling and can redo the blue scribes, and nothing really stops them from bringing back thomin as the leader of all the curselings, really but also they can bring back engrimm or galrauch for a big monster character, or take either or both of the father+son duo that were lieutenants of archaon at one point, plus a pair of weird designs from video games
Any thoughts on how to make the Rotmire Creed fit in a more urban, less swampy Maggotkin army? I'm trying to use as little green as possible, a little more feudal/black plague inspired.
>>97520277Jesters to match the stilts?
Lummys are for _____
>>97520291hugging :)
>>97520291Making me question rather or not to fw underworlds.
>>97520291>for*four
>>97520277You have to replace the shields and cover the bamboo with something
>>97520277Identify which parts of them say "swamp" to you, and replace those. Just some metal weapons and just painting them to fit with the rest of the army will probably go a long way.
>>97520315What if you paint the bamboo as metal pipes?
>>97520315or paint the bamboo brass and pretend they are reused organ whistles or engine pipes or something like that.
>>97520248It's the same across both games, retard.
>>97520223I remember a poll that had them in the bottom but not dead last. On the 40k side of things I don't know much but I heard the EC launch box didn't sell too well, though that may just be 40kg autistic shitflinging. They have had like 3 different boxes since so idk.
>>97520353AoS has more mono demon boxes than majority tzaangor boxes
>>97520326>>97520330I doubt it's going to work
>>97520353>>97520361"Oops all tzaangors" also isn't really a problem in aos where they're one of two non-daemon options and thus a main part of your army instead of the awkward sidekick in 40k tzeentch, which let's be real is more about blue egyptian wizard chaos space marines than it is about tzeenth.
>>97520310Illiatha’s got memes.
>>97520277Just use a different model at that point
someone give me the aussie lumineth glass ya meme
Where did this random tzeentch secondary come from
I still stand by that tzeentch should embrace a more mesoamerican approach rather than falling back on old fb stuff.
>>9752059740kg or twg most likely
>>9752035540kg has an extremely weird hangup around EC models in general that I can't fully comprehend>>97520353The complaint about Tzaangors in 40k is that they're viewed as belonging in AoS and that they're not space marines in an ostensibly space marine army.
>>97520649>40kg has an extremely weird hangup around EC modelsThere was(is?) a notorious schizo shitposter that collected EC, I think that's the reason for the hate
>>97520664No, there is a schizo that’s obsessed with hating on EC no discernible reason. You’re regurgitating the schizos false propaganda.
>>97520631Mesoamerican is for Khorne as evidenced by the UW warband. Slaanesh is Persian, and Nurgle is now firmly Celtic. Tzeentch should aim to do something Southeast Asian with all the ornate fire motifs they have.
>>97520631So it should abandon all of its existing themes and do something not only more boring, but something already done by an entire other army
>>97520781Not to mention that it's an army directly opposed to tzeentch and arguably one of the biggest rivalries in the entire setting
>>97520670>he wasn't around when edgecoc was postingLucky. Then again the current resident clown is arguably even worse.
>>97520223it only sells when the rules are op, otherwise you might as well not stock it at all
>>97520553That's kinda where I'm at. Might just cut them for something else regardless of my affection for Warcry.
Describe their asthetic
>>97520175Egrimm van Horstmann, Galrauch, and Melekh the Changer are three more examples. Named characters are a stupid thing to give Tzeentch in the first place because they have to be static and unchanging. If GW had any sense, they'd be releasing kits for generic characters and letting the players make their own chaos lords and magisters and whatnot.Also>glup shittoStar wars fags should go and stay go. Vilitch was an awful character, but he wasn't whatever you think he was. You could just as easily say Sigvald, Valkia, and Festus were "glue shittos" and you'd be a retard for saying that.
>>97520946Aztec miner cultists.
>>97520946Asian inspired.
>>97520946>Describe their astheticbadass
>>97520953Nothing is stopping you from kitbashing your heroes
>>97520953>they'd be releasing kits for generic characters and letting the players make their own chaos lords and magisters and whatnotSo exactly what they've been doing already
>>97521032Yes, and they should continue doing that instead of bringing back even more named characters. Ideally, they'd also go back to having unit profiles that you can customize and selling multiple variant sculpts for the same unit... but we both know that's never going to happen.>>97521011I agree with you whole-heartedly! It'd be nicer if the rules gave you any incentive to do so.
There is a TOW league starting in my city soon. I am torn between two armies. One of the being Ogre Kingdoms/Ogor Mawtribes. The reason why I am here at all is to ask which kits do you guys think will be refreshed? I want to know how extensive the refresh will be so I know whether or not to start Ogre Kingdoms or wait and do Empire instead.
>>97521162Ask in your dead thread.
>>97520946Peru
>>97521164Why would they know about AoS refreshes. What's with the hostility?
>>97521162>The reason why I am here at all is to ask which kits do you guys think will be refreshed?All that aren't big monsters.
>>97521172>hostility There is none. Idk why you would it that way.
>>97521182Is that just wishy washy rumors or would you say that's pretty set in stone (I know nothing has been officially announced yet)?
>>97521188Gnoblars aren't mentioned and some kits are gettign replaced instead of remade (same batlte role, but not the same thing), but yes
>>97521203Ok cool, I will definitely go Empire and then do OK as an army later down the line. Thanks for the info!
>>97520033She started sucked off every verminlord she could find so she could try to whore her way out of it
>>97521250>She started sucked off every verminlord she could findAnd THEN Vermindoom happened
>>97521188That info iirc comes mostly from a rumourmonger that has been pretty damn accurate on the general gist of things (like recent whq and nurgle) but also made mistakes before in some specific details and stuff. For example mistaking the new big nurgle daemons for troggoths (trolls) or assuming the new obr archers were more like ushabti than regular boner dudes. So not a 100% set in stone but likely pretty close in the grand scheme of things.So yeah pretty much anything that's not a big monster is slated to get refreshed. Probably worth mentioning that leadbelchers are apparently getting removed without a refresh (fuck if I know why though they're so unique) so maybe worth picking up a box or two of those while you still can. I wouldn't be surprised to see them show up in tow after a few years anyway, but you never know.
I wonder if faction terrain can be included in warcry. Would probably awkward though.
>>97521372Depends on the specific one you have in mind I suppose. Like the seraphon pyramid basically already is warcry terrain for example.
>>97521372I don't think it has rules, but it's not like the Nurgle tree is any different from just a tree
>>97521365Gotcha, I wish I could see the preview but the league starts before Adepticon so I will have to go Empire. Probably a safer bet long term in case Ogres are never added back fully into tow.
>>97521428For what it's worth I'm not expecting ogres just yet, the preview will likely be focused on the new Cities of Sigmar stuff that's also been rumoured for a while. Though I guess we don't know, they'd be a nice surprise.Good luck with your league anon.
>>97520649>The complaint about Tzaangors in 40k is that they're viewed as belonging in AoS and that they're not space marines in an ostensibly space marine army.Thousand sons have received 2 new models in 10 years since their original launch in 2016, the same number of new models that World Eaters have received after the initial 2023 launch. Bafflingly Nurgle has even gotten its own sorcerer, world eaters have gotten some of the forge world daemon engines in plastic, emperor's children was only released last year but have probably the most robust and marine-focused army with no meme chaff, the weirdest part for them is the resistance to allowing Fabius Bile in their lists. Thousand Sons are a cobbled together mess of things like tzaangors and a mutalith vortex beast. They can't even use the Horus Heresy Thousand Sons Robots to make up for this. Of all the 40k Deity armies the Thousand Sons have been by far the most forgotten with old models and lack of support in general, with a fucked up psychic phase gimmick.
>>97521183Why are faggots like you always ESL.
>>97519274Totally, yeah...
>>97521162rumours for ogres are>basic ogres updated>ironguts updated >leadbelchers replaced by hunters with crossbows>mournfangs updated >butcher updated >tyrant updated>special character 1: daughter of not!greasus on big monster>special character 2: not!golgfag but a female>special character 3: not!skrag on a warmachine (might be just a chariot for the pot)>gnoblars gone>no word on whether something happens to the scraplauncher/ironblaster
>>97521603They were late 7th right? Did they not get a pity release in 8th or 9th? I know they got those horrible robots a few months ago. Almost got into 40k and warhammer in general with them like a decade ago but aos caught my interest and I went with it instead.If they ever got a proper release I might reconsider but for now I don't really feel the need to try 40k. maybe if they do exodites Anyway yeah thats my blogpost for this month I suppose
>>97521724also maneaters are gone aside from the special character for now
>>97521724>>tyrant updatedWait, what? Why? Is this like a wight king on steed situation?
>>97521780Who knows
>>97521741Supposedly they'll be coming a bit later down the line per whitefang, though who's to say what that actually means
>>97521162Nearly all the existing range is going to be replaced
>>97521780so it would seem
>>97521171I see it. Paint the iron gold and they could work as some fantasy incan cult.
>>97521603>world eaters have gotten some of the forge world daemon engines in plasticUh, what? No they didn't.
>>97520946Chamonic
>>97522019Weirdly they're actually supposed to be from Ghur
>>97522026They look Chamon though, don't they?
>>97521724That seems cuhrazy. I was sure ogres were going the way of beastmen.
>>97522052Eh, they wear plenty of metal armour, but that's hardly unique to Chamon.
The Tzeentch spell lores are kinda nuts in the new book?
>>97522086It's the crystals too but I guess on reflection Chamonite doesn't look like that.>>97522058Luckily ogors are heavily enough integrated into the setting it'd be weird to remove them. They've got their own newsletters and good Sigmarite jobs and everything.
>>97522058Nah people actually cared for ogors
>>97522115I haven’t even looked at the spells the heroes have but yeah the lores are good. Less damage I think overall though, but it’s good.
is AoS dead
>>97522186He really likes ghyran.
>>97522174If you want the dead game thread search the catalog for /wfb/. Or more likely go back to /vg/ and look for the vermintide thread
>>97522174Not dead, but 4th is a marked decline from 3rd.
>>97522174Death is certainly the best part of aos that's for sure
>>97522174Maybe Warcry and Underworlds are, but mainline AoS isn'tSoulbound is probably also rather dead, but we at least know C7 is hiring writers for that game
Was Blighted Wilds scanned?
>>97522222Deathly digits duly delivered. Fantasissies could never.
>>97520168making slaanesh sell is easy>make more freaky demons>make actually sexy modelsSlaanesh models will remain eternally cucked while GW insists on trying to market to kids who have no business, money or interest to be getting into something with such adult themes, but that won't stop them from trying. >>97520178I don't see why they don't put out more named demons, they did it with ephilim or whatever it's name was. They don't need a separate black library entry for every single named characters, just a paragraph of flavor text in the battle tome is enough and if people show interest then they can write a book for it.
>>97520265speaking of that picture, can anyone who's read this book tell me if this two headed dragon has a name, and if so, why it doesn't have a model?
>>97520291ignoring and waiting for umbraneth
I hate this little armor thing it looks so awkward
>>97520291It bothers me that the studio paintjob showcases them in Ymetrican colors.
>>97522477If rumours are to be believed then umbraneth were planned but never actually worked on. And now they’ve been scrapped with Dark Elves being the first “ legacy “ faction that will return to TOW. But who knows if that’s a real leak or bs.
>>97522467Yes, it has a name, it's probably Ghazuul (spelling may be incorrect due to having listened to it as audiobook). But there was also another dragon that I'm pretty sure was also named, but it's less important.
Is there porn in the mortal realms
>>97520631Spy TF2
>>97520216the lack of forsaken and doom knights is really inexcusable, it's so easy, they're right there and it would give tzeentch other melee options that aren't naked men in bird masks. Really they need to lean much harder on the mutations and demons but GW just has zero ideas for tzeentch units that aren't wizard foothero #4453453>>97520265I wanted a refresh of blue scribes, but instead we got a color swapped slaanesh character.
>>97522522Everyone unanimously despised forsaken and doom knights are just chaos warriors on discs that total war shit out there's no need for them
>>97520631Mesoamerican is a great vibe, but fits seraphon and other factions better. Tzeentch should be egyptian instead. AoS doesn't have an egyptian faction, they could very easily go that direction if they wanted to and it would fit with the existing direction they use in 40k.
>>97520946I think the aesthetic is supposed to be centered around their role, not any given culture, it's supposed to be vaguely rocky and gemstone like with their angular bumpy cloaks and their mouthless puppet masks. They're a cult of gem cutters and rock idol destoryers and that fits the clothing and tools they have.
>>97521372was that not what this was?
>>97522534I see people asking for forsaken of tzeentch every single time they're brought up so that's just not accurate
>>97522467>and if so, why it doesn't have a model?It's just a random black library villain, I don't know why it should have one?In any case I think the design is just an "ordinary" double headed chaos dragon. Forgeworld actually made a generic one of thoae called an emperor dragon, based on the older double headed named chaos dragon. I don't think that model ever made it to AoS unlike say the warpfire dragon (picrel) which had rules in the monstrous arcanum compendium.Would be a cool thing to bring back for tzeentch if they ever do get around to a big second wave. I'll certainly never turn down more dragons, and the new zombie one seemed to have been well received.>>97522501What rumour is that? First time hearing about anything substantial for umbraneth.>>97522543Meh, I don't know. I like thousand sons but doing the same thing in aos feels kind of lame. I'd prefer if they did something different. I liked those gallagher artworks someone posted a few threads back, those were cool and I wouldn't mind more tzeentch in that style. (Also it's not all that present in their miniatures but obr are the closest we're going to get to an egyptian faction)>>97522595Speaking of, this is peak autism but it kind of annoys me how the snake relief between his eyes does not fit the pseudo-mesoamerican style at all, looks closer to something you'd find in some egyptian art
what's the rundown on the ogre refresh rumors i"m #hungry for news
>>97522674Bro scroll up a bit
>>97522687oh you weren't kiddingI'll toss myself into the great maw in penance
>>97522609The same secondaries asking for their total war shit to get added in that will never even see a model irl. No one liked that kit it sold horribly and was relentlessly mocked
>>97522186Has this artist released any new content yet?
>>97522829A bunch, it’s on his twitter.
>>97522783Have you considered that people could like Fantasy, Total War, AND AOS at the same time? While painting models, even
>>97522921what a mindless consumer cuck
>>97522672I think a dragon with splitting heads would fit tzeentch really well
>>97521724>leadbelchers replaced by hunters with crossbowsgay, bring back my boys with the hand cannons. FFS they have their own color, it's absurd for them to not have a model.
>>97522946>noooo, you can't just like thingsare you this miserable all the time?
>>97522515Yeah, there would be titty statues of Morathi.The only thing is they demand that you do not cum
>>97522186
Quick, /aosg/ without any thought or reason:Do I go BoK or Kharadron for my next army? And yes, I'm a raging faggot that likes techy bullshit to win.
>>97521724Aw sick, so I can keep the leadbelchers. Updated Mournfangs sound nice though I could probably stand to sheer off a few since I wound up with like... 12 of the god damn things from weird pre-owned stuff.
>>97523654KO
>>97521724I'm really interested in seeing the scale at which the updated ogres end up at. My conversions are a centimeter taller than current ogre sculpts, but if they end up the size of the ogor warhulk from CoS then we're gonna have a problem.
>>97523654KO, i feel theyve become a lot cooler now being apart of the duardin trio
Spearhead is seriously fun af. I hope Daughters of Khaine get a new one soon, I've got others I can play but they're my main faction and it'd be nice to have an other option to run 'em with in SP.
>>97522921no one ever liked Warhammer Fantasy; you were meant to critically enjoy it. The game was made for the older type of wargamer, the one who experiences the game as a general would in the days of old, not some Timmy who just wants World of Warcraft on the table. Wargames are about simulation, which is why fantasy used rank and flank, and sure it did compromise tables and gameplay, but that was how people would fight back then. Total War is taking that soulful experience and removing all the stoicism out of it by making it "fun" and appealing to zoomers. Fantasy would have been better off dead.
>>97523868They could easily do an elf based one and a Scäthborn based one.Elf based one is the current one but swap the Ironscale for a High Gladiatrix and the bow sneks for a unit (or 2*5) SoS or Shadowstalkers.Scäthborn is bow snakes, spear snakes, Khinerai and Ironscale
>>97523654I guess that depends on your current army too, and whether you want something similar or want to diversify a little.>>97523868Now with the recent lumineth/tzeentch wave they're one of the handful of factions with only a single spearhead. I hope they get something nice but they'll probably put the warcry warband in there.
>>97523654Khorne might get dumbed down at some point and won't be tech playstyle forever
>>97522216Can you explain why to a noob? Im finding it pretty fun but I've never played anything other than 4th for comparison.
>>97523935its new, old good new bad
>>97523935nta, but 4th removed a bunch of stuff that made the game more flavorful and fun. peak 2nd Edition was the great AoS has ever been.
>>97523886>still no khinerai heroine
>>97524085Hopefully she'll be part of Wave 2 coming with this year's refresh
>>97523935The general idea is that while 4th's core rules are actually pretty good, the battletomes and warscrolls are utterly lacking in flavour and often require you to jump through hoops for no reason. Lots of spells that just deal 3 mortal wounds instead of anything interesting, once per battle abilities that require a random 4+ roll for 0 reason, etc. There's also quite a few instances where the game goes against the fluff, or what "feels right". Commonly cited example is the mangler squigs having less rend than the cave squig of the loonboss. Just lots of little things like that which add up.On the flipside it seems like ever since the FEC tome they've started making the battletomes more and more interesting again, the new lumineth rune mechanic seems to have been quite well received here, at least for now. It just sucks for everyone whose battletome came out in the first half of the edition because it's just kind of boring.
>>97524089Do we have any idea what they'll be getting?
>>97524102Educated guess is faction terrain and sadly refreshed and less sexy witch elves.
>>97524102rumors day just one unit that can be built as either affiliated to morathi or to krethusais the unit a hero? is the unit a replacement for another kit? we don't know
>>97524102More flying units
>>97524090Reading FEC, Helsmith and Maggotkin battletomes, I must admit that lore is brilliant. They really had passion for it and new design of lore with all those short stories and lore written from point of view of actual characters is really amazing. I hope the rest of battletomes for this edition are designed in same way.
>>97524123>is the unit a hero? is the unit a replacement for another kit? we don't knowRemember when the rumour/leak idoneth was "3 units, 2 heroes" or some shit? What a monkey's paw that ended up being.
>>97524123>inb4 the unit is a dual build scenery piece
>>97524187The scenery should have morathi and malerion
>>97524187Dobut it
new underworlds news>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qstvajgd/thanateks-tithe-are-here-to-claim-bones-even-if-they-have-to-find-unwilling-donors/
>>97524343lmao what the fuck
>>97524343now this is fun
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>>97524352>Xar-Tamok and Medeb-Ahk are Mornial caste retainers that each have a handy casket between their two heads. This is primarily to carry bones and mystical soul-stuff, but imagine how handy that would be for a trip to the supermarket. At least GW knows it's looks very silly
New Underworlds!!!Hype!
Where can I find all the different paths for Path of Glory? I got all the ones from Ravaged Coast and Blighted Wilds, but apparently, there are some new ones that I missed. Like the one in the picture.
>>97524343Chest guys are awsome.Main guy feels like a baby version of an actual hero.
>>97524343That face is so stupid but I like him
>>97524360Lmao
>>97524352A unit of these guys could be cool to go with harvesters
>>97524102Some recent rumors>DoK won't get kits replaced with the upcoming tome>DoK will get terrain and a new infantry box
>>97524458I'd like a unit like this, more of an armored sos with other weapons. But they NEED a khinerai hero it's the only notable hole in the roster
>>97524352Interesting details: They have no mouths
>>97524471Forgot pic
>>97524474and they must scream?
>>97524474The mortisans were tired of the expectations of making one head lie while the other says the truth, to get past the lock and open the chest
>>97524343I like these guys.
>>97524403Neat. I like 'em. I was convinced Underworlds was dead.
>>97524435Unfortunately, I cannot help you, but would you be kind enough to share all the Ravaged Coast and Blighted Wilds content you possess ?
>>97524343kinda disappointing, looks like an assembly of unused sculpts than an actual warband. Could have easily made this some a 3 man or 4 man band of bigger constructs or a band of the assassin guys.
>>97524625Underworlds is much more likely than warcry to stick around
>>97524352I like the casket and I like the two heads, but I'm not sure I like both on the same sculpt.Also what's with the foot cartouche lol. Cool breastplates though.
>>97524857The heads look really dumb. They should have been like blemmyes.
>>97524880That's Vokmortian's thing
>>97524360
>>97524435PtG in the Core Rules book. Path to Glory: Ascension
>>97524360>it's real
>>97522497I don't think I've ever seen anyone repose the stardrake or even attempt to which surprises me
>>97524938Most people aren't low functioning autists, even in the hobby
>>97524898Excellent.
>Darkoath rolled out in AoS so ye olde Chaos Marauders can move to TOW>TOW quickly drops the old models to replace them with new onesI don't have any particular feelings about the models in question and that's not what I'm getting at, I just think it looks very odd from the outside, like the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing.
>>97525057if you haven't noticed they're differentiating the looks and focustow is now getting updated chaos warriors, knights and chosen, and chances are aos will update their warriors and knights again to be properly different
>>97525057>unit gets moved to the old world so GW can more easily track sales separately>unit gets updated model because 2 decade old sculpts aren't cutting it anymoreYou really shouldn't be suprised when something in TOW gets updated models, AoS has some stuff from a decade ago but TOW stuff is majority 20+ years old and needs to be updated if they plan on actually making any new sales.
>>97525082>tow is now getting updated chaos warriors, knights and chosen, and chances are aos will update their warriors and knights again to be properly differentyeah that's kinda weird
>>97525082>tow is now getting updated chaos warriors, knights and chosenThe leak said that tow armies will be undergoing aos levels of flanderization. And there was rumors of a norsca project that got scrapped and its likely tied to the chaos warrior update. If I had to guess, the warriors will live up to to more of the norsca range from tww but with some adaptations considering that norsca in tww is more uh....kurgan inspired? I think? >chances are aos will update their warriors and knights again to be properly differentAs much as I'd prefer it if AOS got the more Mycenaean armor that fantasy had for its original warriors, I really doubt thats the case. AOS warriors are described as chaos ascendant, while tow warriors are still trying to find some semblance of authority. I wouldnt be surprised if chosen for tow are just regular chaos warriors with more decorations. Kinda like frydal.
>>97525197Frydal is just Norcan chief, so she is not even a WoC
>>97524898Gold
>>97525057If they get rid of the current kino knights and warriors for something crappy I'm just gonna sell my StD and quit the army.
>>97525082>and chances are aos will update their warriors and knights again to be properly differentThat's be surprising to me, they're brand new, and this isn't like the wight king or the tomb king herald whete it's a single hero. It'd have to be warriors, knights and chosen at least, not to mention the dozen or so lords and other characters in the same style. No, I think aos chaos warriors are staying right where they are, and rather tow warriors will take a different path. Maybe more norscan-ish like >>97525197 suggests, or maybe harkening back to some of the older, slightly different designs. It'll be weird to have classic chaos in aos and a "new take" in the old world though, that's for sure.By the way, mycenean? How'd you figure that? Sounds cool but I don't really see it from looking at some of the older metals. There's a few tzeentch heroes that kind of have that look if you squint but that's about it.
>>97525197>The leak said that tow armies will be undergoing aos levels of flanderizationYeah, I remember the leaker being hopping mad about something like TOW soup books a few months backIt's probably inevitable, like even by TOW standards you have clear favorites as far as races go. I doubt Wood Elves sell for shit, for example. .
A buddy and I want to get a local path to glory campaign set up, how's the newest book?
>>97525197>myceneanThat is not how I would describe the older (better) chaos warriors, but I have to admit it's a good comparison. Trim, trim for days, I say!
>>97525457>That's be surprising to me, they're brand new, and this isn't like the wight king or the tomb king herald whete it's a single hero.No, it's not like those cases because it's the same case as deathrattle skeleton warriors instead.the chaos knights aren't actually a new kit, they're the same etb models from the start collecting with a sprue of bits for musician and banner.and no chaos chosen aren't supposed to get updated in this hypothetical scenario because they already have a distinctly aos aesthetic, with an armour covered in trim and akin the varanguard's.it would be just warriors and knights.
>>97525648I keep forgetting about the etb start collecting, what an odd release. You're right that knights are slightly older then, like 2020 or so I wanna say?Either way, I think the point still stands. It'd be odd for them to redesign kits so new (be it 2020 or 2023) so they can look different from kits they're also designing ...right now. I feel like the skeleton comparison isn't quite fair, that was a slight rework of existing models to make them sturdier, and I think they threw in an extra deathmask for the champion that wasn't there before. New aos warriors and knights (if we take the most conservative approach, I'm not sure I agree that aos chosen are so unique different from the older sculpts to be considered distinct enough) would need a full redesign, from concept art to full modeling etcetera. If tow must have new models, the logical course would simply be to slightly differentiate *those* instead of wasting even more resources on redesigning aos sculpts for no reason. It's a bit weird for aos to end up with the classic stuff, but honestly you could make the case that darkoath look closer to the whfb marauders than the tow ones do, so there's precedent.On the other hand, plenty of shit gw has done with this whole tow/aos minimal overlap business flies in the face of common sense anyway, so who knows.
>>97525648There's zero rumors about AoS Chaos Warriors getting updated, what you have is speculation which is basically never correct.
>>97523794I'm still scared to try copying your conversion thing here, I've been being a lazy fuck hobby wise and dunno if I'll be able to do it in a nice looking way.>>97524352The more freak shit in OBR the better.
>>97525903But why do people think TOW Chaos is getting updated?
>>97525935TOW has some actual rumors, including a confirmed second wave of Chaos Models we haven't seen yet.
>>97525935Because the marauder line just got a nice big tow refresh probably
>>97524352Feet symbol on the chest glyph?
>>97525935One of the more reliable rumourmongers on TGA said something about that I think>>97525987I was wondering about that as well
>>97525987It's the icon of rhe mornial caste
Anyone have a pdf of blighted wilds
>>97524948I mean it's not like it's some masterpiece I don't think it's that crazy to think someone might try reposing it
>>97526288It's too big/ too expensive/ too weird anatomy to bother doing that much work
>>97525903>what you have is speculation correct >which is basically never correctincorrect
>>97524360>How can Vokmortian prefer Zandtos' construct to mine
>>97526220https://files.catbox.moe/s9w5f3.pdf
>>97523906You say that like getting to use Shadowstalkers in Spearhead isn't fucking awesome lol>>97523886I like the fact we get a mix of elves and snakelves in our current Spearhead but one that leaned completing in one direction or the other could be pretty fun as well.
>>97524352Neat, I just wish they'd stop making all the mortek 5'11 manlets
>>97524360>that's BONE
>Cool it with the anti-Hashutic remarks
I just want blood warriorsWaves of blood warriorsIs that decent right now
>>97526492They were pricey a couple months back but really good. Idk what their place is in context of their book now though. Are they the best thing in the book? Probably not. Probably still just hero spam/blood thirsters. Can you spam them? Yeah, cav might fuck you though.
>>97524360>>97524448>>97524898>>97524911>>97526353>>97526455I feel like I'm missing a joke here.
How long until Daughters of Khaine get their Battletome and pity hero?
>>975265656 months
>>97526550The flavor text is the american psycho business card scene.
>>97526550It's The Dark Knight Rises refrence
>>97526565We have literally no way of knowing.
>>97523802Man this would be cool if I didn't see the stumpy buggers actually walking up and down those stairs, it somehow breaks the illussion of this being cool and just goes to dumb and overly huge.Which is bizzare because I didn't think this one was dumb, but I guess we only see one skink walk up the stairs of the small temple.
>>97526386Thanks anon
>>97526111Oh cool thank you
>>97525197>>97525457>>97525491This is the best predictor of what the new Chaos Warrior in TOW will look like, as this is directly from TOW and previous sketches of this kind from the books have been 1 to 1 for new models.
>>97526819except when they haven't
>>97525491>I doubt Wood Elves sell for shit, for example. .Funny you say that because of one the most solid leaks we they have for TOW right now is a new Tomb Kings vs Wood Elves versus box with all new sculpts (like a starter set type thing)
>>97526819Dude this design is older than tow itself.
>>97526849Where is it from? I know it's currently in one of the TOW books, where are you saying it originally comes from?
Why do you guys think of the largest battle report channels on Youtube ( Tabletop Tactics 254k subs ) chose to have TOW be their second core pillar over AoS? I would assume they are grogs but they also mostly play 40k so that can't be true. Not trying to shitstir legit wondering why they did it.
>>97526916Go ask in /wfg/.
>>97526925Their responses would probably be biased.
>>97526939who cares.
>>97526939As if they're not biased here
>>97526916>wondering why they did it.They are a business and they do what makes them money. No one watches AoS battle reports but I did enjoy MWG's back when they did them
>>97526849That art itself isn't old.That's new art by L J Koh, who only been hired by GW for TOW exclusively, though I'm pretty sure he would prefer to work on HH or 40K pieces.
>>97527007>>97526849Its been released in tow only but the design was already apparent in the previous aj with the old warriors, which just means it isnt worth looking into.
>>97526916>why does a shill channel shill the product GW is desperate to moveTrenchant question concern troll-kun.
>/tg/ - E-celebs and Self-Promotion
>>97527006Oh yeah that is weird. It must be because it is their first TOW upload, but it actually has more views than their 40k batreps. That must be because it was their first TOW video. Do you think AoS is less watchable overall vs TOW? Or do people not watch for other reasons in your opinion?
>>97524729>Unfortunately, I cannot help you, but would you be kind enough to share all the Ravaged Coast and Blighted Wilds content you possess ?Sure!Ravaged Coasthttps://www.scribd.com/document/839361788/AOS4-Path-to-Glory-Ravaged-CoastBlighted Wildshttps://www.scribd.com/document/977639155/Path-to-glory-Blighted-Wilds-Rules>>97524907Could you give me a link?
>>97527044Nigga quit, this is embarassing how hard you're trying
>>97524352Okay so I did ask for weirder and recieved weirder but of course it isn't the weird I expected. Not sure I want one.>>97524447He's cool. I'm starting to think GW sticking to just humanoid shapes and not going crazy with OBRs will sadly be the safe move for them.
>>97527044It is not their first TOW uploadPeople by and large don't like AoS. I think its fun, but the lore is stupid as fuck (and aos fans need to accept this) and it definitely affects public perception of it, especially with the Total War games being huge successes and TOW coming back
I don’t really get the appeal of battle reports. The players get the rules wrong, sometimes they’re staged, and I don’t really like looking at fat dudes playing something that I could be doing.
>>97526916>TT drops AoS>MWG drops AoS meanwhile one of their staff uses the studio to film weekly TOW battle reportsGrim
>>97527073Maybe that's why TT is that big. Because neither of the three are obese and ones a normal looking woman.
>>97526916Because AoS as a game doesn't really offer anything different to 40k. It's an even less flavorful (LRL is definitely a step in the right direction but it might be too little too late), smaller audience tournament style game. They already capture most of that audience with their 40k content. TOW, for all of its flaws, and it has many, isn't anything like 40k or AoS, for the better and for the worst. It's narrative first and foremost (which also suits the fact that the players at TTT are shit at it and would never be good at it) so their extremely stupid decisions and inability to know the rules won't be such a detriment.Also, my guess is a few of their whales have really been whining for it, so they are bringing it out for a trial run.
>>97527073> don’t really like looking at fat dudes playing something that I could be doingYou're a no games no models secondary though
>>97527076MWG is on a soul binge right now. It is the only youtube channel I happily paypig to. Running Mordheim AND 4th edition battlereports regularly? Easy money from my particular brand of autism.
>>97527087Enough about the people shilling e-celebs though.
>>97527077>woman
Dear god we are on "give money to youtuber" level of shilling.Go the fuck away faggot i won't watch your shit
>>97527068>It is not their first TOW uploadOh. Well that's very interesting in that case.
>>97527084>Because AoS as a game doesn't really offer anything different to 40kAoS doesnt have all the shitty angle shooting with bad terrain rules that 40k is filled with so theres that
>>97527077The single biggest battle report channel, PlayOn Tabletop, has more fat fucks than thin people and no woman.Plus the diversity hire that is the woman on TTT is annoying, doesn't know who to play any of the games, and a whiny sore loser. Also a dyke
>>97527088Oh I definitely agree. I just miss their AoS bat reps10th ed 40 sucks and they've stated to bring those back though
>>97527115>PlayOn TabletopGenuinely cannot understand how filming battle reports like mid 2000's reality tv shows is a popular way of watching them.
>>97527115PlayOn is so good that they somehow manage to make 10th ed look fun
>>97527125You just can't understand zoomer
>>97527115Well shit I was just speculating I don't actually know
>>97527115>dukeShe's trans
>>97527088MWG is such a sad story.They were once the biggest one, full stop.Now their videos can't even crack 10k.They use to upload five or six times a fucking week.Now it's maybe one game, the other maybe two videos are paid only. They are literally living off their stable of whales, crowd funding 3d print schemes, and the every six months begging video (only Matt though, Dave, is too lazy or proud to beg for the company that pays all his bills while he has done literally nothing for it for the past 8 years)
>>97527153>she
>>97527077Even if that’s true, that doesn’t dispel my other complaints. Hell even if they were charismatic I still wouldn’t care, because again, these aren’t real people to me. Shooting the shit over a game is fun but that’s something that’s exclusive for me and my bud(s) at the table. I’d rather watch a boxing match then trying to entrench myself in that.
>>97527125Miles better than "camera five feet away from the table with both hosts in frame playing the game without any editing whatsoever" that 80% of bat reps online are
>>97527158Eh they knew what they were doing. They don't like 10th 40k and they decided to stop playing it and take the hit. If their income streams are good enough to support that then good for them
>>97527119Literal desperation.They were completely falling off the algorithm so they had to do something.
>>97527158They used to have a store too. Like they were a full on LGS. They must be doing fine, the bunker is massive and they have a print farm room.
>>97527165You don't play thoughbeit
>>97527182Is this some kind of childish defense mechanism?
>>97527192Post games
>>97527197You’re weird dude.
>>97527158Their prints are actuality pretty good, got some movement trays for TOW and was very happy with the quality
>>97527216You forgot to link the website for it to get your sponsorship
>>97527221OK fag
I sincerely hope you faggots are getting paid for shilling these failures because it's beyond pathetic if you do it for free
>>97526492play 2-3 gorechosen and a mlok + 80 BWnand you got a golden meme list. believe me, i played that in turnaments.
>>97527232OK fag
That was one the most embarrassing attempts at concern trolling I've seen in a while. The samefagging was also painfully executed.
>>97527232Oh it’s obvious they’re getting paid. You can pay jeets in quarters and they’ll shit up a board for hours on end. /v/ and /vg/ are examples of that.
>>97527216Same. And I’m also not a paid shill their movement trays blow GW out of the water.
>>97527171As others have pointed out, they haven't stopped playing 10th, in fact they started doing it again.Frankly if they didn't do their demo annual begging videos I assume they would be under already; those sort of things are just desperation (and also a very slimy way to get income; with investors or a bank they would have to PAY THE MONEY BACK, here they just bleed the whales, take the money, and do nothing to better their product or right size their business).To be fair to MWG, TTT did the same begging, TWICE, to get their building paid for when 'the cost estimate increased' so maybe it's just habit for these channels to take advantage of the para social relationship with the viewers.Steve over at Mountain Miniatures is 100% this; he has whales paying literally an EXTRA 300 to 400 hundred a month to 'win a single painted miniature.' He is basically paying for his part time workers via the whales, he then pockets all the cash from his subscribers
>>97527073I can barely watch a game that I'm playing in let alone some random attentionwhore on YouTube
>>97527232There has been like 10 different channels brought up in the last hour. Who is shilling for who here? Or do you claim channels buy bulk deals on jeet advertising?
>>97527254You retard there's a difference between asking for donations and taking out a loan
>>97527216You can find similar movement trays for free on cults. The only somewhat start product they ever made was the interchange bases to go from circles to squares, this was a legit good idea I'm surprised they thought of it
>>97524360>Let's see Vokmortian's Tithe
>>97527068>People by and large don't like AoSBut it's the second best selling of all mini games.I do have my own theory, AoS has more actual players, hence why they sell more models, tournament attendance is high etc.Whereas there are lots of people who like the idea of Fantasy, but won't even buy models or play it, they just engage in battle reports etc
Its about the quality of their resin/plastic, not the availability of STLs or other people with printers
>>97527264Honest question: why are you even playing then? Why not do something else if playing the game doesn't interest you or hold your attention at all?
>>97527288You forgot the reply to your butt buddy pal.
>>97527287>But it's the second best selling of all mini games.Battletech regularly outsells it in the US. Sigmar really does not sell that much.
I wonder if it's the same guy every week doing the "guys I'm totally into aos but there's this thing involving tow that's popular and it really worries me guys!!" routine. What was it last time, subreddit activity?
>>97527293How about you go outside and reply to some women
>>97527280No shit you fucking faggot, that's why I say they are so fucking slimy.They are fucking businesses. Balance your books/business, or take out a bank loan, which you have to pay back, rather then beg for money, do nothing to make your business more profitable, and then come begging AGAIN in 6 months. MWG are lazy, shitty scum, living off a few para social whales and people who set up auto pay for a credit card they got five years ago and have forgotten to cancel the account.
>>97527291Anon it’s called having a life and not having one single thing be your personality. I like sleeping, does that mean I should dedicate myself to lectures on the science of it? You don’t let a single thing run your life, right?
>>97527309I dunno i think you need to go outside and get some real problems
>>97527295>in the USoh i'm laffin
>>97527312You don't have a life though.
>>97527297It’s some dude who frequents /twg/, I think with his friend. I wanted to keep it hush hush but he’s making it really obvious.
>>97527297who cares. I'd rather hear what kind of funny/cool/interesting stories happened in the games/campaigns of local anons.In the third edition ptg hosted at our local club, our StD player had aspiring champion ascend to demonprince before the first game began. That was very funny.
>>97527073the only watchable battle report channel is games night and they don't even play warhammer lol
>>97527295DnD minis outsell it too.
>>97527326>/twg/so he doesn't even play warhammer fantasy? many such cases
>>97527323Remember 2 weeks ago when that interview with the LGS megachain that accounts for 2% of global GW sales said that AoS has been struggling in Europe since TOW came out and people here said Europe doesn't matter because the US is GW's primary market.
>>97527373You’ve got a funny memory with a unstable mental health issue.
>>97527373To be fair AoS is PROBABLY outselling TOW in the US but that doesn't mean much when both are getting outsold by battletech
>>97527297It's pretty basic trolling it's just been more prevalent the past few weeks, there must be a lull with old world or total war
>>97527291It's still worth it for the social aspect but I couldn't give a fuck less about winning or whether or not I forgot to use something during my turn
>>97527073Yeah, I appreciate a well edited concise fun barrep like mountainside tabletop skirmish games or dice chatter just for the thrill of dice rolls and some humour in the outcomes or cinematic quality but the beardy shit is just mind numbing. Bellys extended, channel branded acrylic objective mats, top down view, wheezing every other word, and the worst play experience imaginable with no good will humour
>>97527073I'll watch the first part when they're showing the armies but I'm out of there once they start playing
>>97527404The current battle report 'standard' that you see on channels like Tabletop titans or Mountain Miniatures is a fucking disgrace. You barely see the table, barely see the minis, the game is constantly interrupted to show out some faggot who gave a dollar, the screen is dominated by the two fat people, not the table... And they are too fucking long.A concise 1hiur, 1 hour twenty minute report I can listen too while painting (looking up to see a nice table and minis when I want a break in painting) is excellent
>>97527073watching people play warhammer sounds boring as shiti wouldnt mind if it was like a "strategic review" of a battle, where players talk about the plays they made and why they made themthat would still be pretty boring but at least it would be informative
>>97527433Tabletop Titans is the fucking WORST i have no idea how they have a fanbase.Steve could easily do a handcam for mountain miniatures but I think it's just an easy way for him and Luka to make some spare cash playing TOW on their off time
>>97526916>Youtube>254k subsSo he's a fucking nobody lmfao
>>97527088>It is the only youtube channel I happily paypig toCringe and gay. Stop being a submissive little goy.
>>97527153>She
>>97527465Ranjit I know this is hard to believe but in 1st world countries people have disposable income
>>97527433>>97527454They do upload plenty of classic handheld cam battle reports. The rub is that they are all behind the member paywall. You can watch top down soulless for free but for the classic enjoyable format you have to pay. Steve claims it’s because the top down is more popular by viewer demand, but I think it’s more because it pushes people into paying for the membership to get enjoyable batreps.
>>97527295(You)
>>97527472Good little goyim, good boy.
>>97527373no because i don't go to every threadbut evidently you do
>>97519274Nah the faun guys are for War Cry and really aren’t useful in AoS.
>>97527472invest your money instead of giving it to snow mormons
>>97526837Makes you wonder why they didn't just update all the TK stuff from the start
>>97524620man they really aren't bringing the A team for underworlds are they.
>>97527656If leaks are to be believed. It's because GW suits didn't believe TOW would sell at all prior to launch. It was originally supposed to launch with Cathay vs Kislev. That was the plan from the outset. Then over years it got whittled away. Even kits that were meant to go to TOW like the entire Sunsteala range were redirected into TOW because of executive decisions.Then TOW launched and did much better than they expected so they had to scramble to release Cathay and get the other projects up to higher priority. Cathay allegedly sold extremely well and basically now they are scrambling behind the scenes to ramp everything up after spending the 3-4 years prior to launch ramping down. It will be interesting to see what they will show for Adepticon. Most people believe it will be the new StD for TOW (chaos warriors, knights etc )
>>97527658Cape fly is actuallly clever sculpting
>>97526916>core pillar>release 1 video per year>>97527006spider bitched no one watched aos when they were doing 60k, literally the same as anything that isn't marine slop he puts up.this captcha is trash btw.
>>97527714Core pillar in their own words, and it's once a week now.
>>97527332I got my ass handed to me yet again this Saturday to push my loss streak to somewhere in the neighborhood of 15. Last game I won was last May.
>>97527214Buy an ad
>>97527688>Even kits that were meant to go to TOW like the entire Sunsteala range
>>97518894Soon
>>97527688There's not a chance in hell the sunstealas were heading to old world, if anything their real army just wasn't ready yet so they got mashed into gitz for now
>>97527688It would be pretty fucked up to rerelease chaos warriors for old world and then update them after the people that want them already bought them
>>97527894The few retards that were dumb enough to buy the old garbage deserve it
>>97527917For the old maruders model, you can at least argue that those were Online GW store exclusive, so replacing just meant they could take up shelf space in LGS, but replacing models that are directly in the discount box(a box which people like) would certainly be met with a negative reception
>>97527894ToW execution is just a shitshow across the board and could have so easily not been so if they had just not announced it so long before even attempting to shit something out. It's insanity that they didn't just fully redo Brets and TK to start when they were prime examples of the literal failure of whf
>>97519003>Battletomes are for worldbuildingWhich ones SCE had about two new pages of fluff
>>97528047Was there anything new about the lord commanders? I vaguely remember the Hallowed Knights were about to choose a new one or something. Which if it isn’t Gardus lmao
>>97527287I think along these lines too, the player base might even not be much bigger, but there is a fairly huge "hobby focused" crowd connected to AoS.We do have the best minis, some designs might not be to everyones tastes sure, but over all our line of miniatures is the best looking and most fun to paint.So I think there is a number of primarily hobbyist buying AoS stuff, painting up armies and only playing once in a while if ever.The average AoS mini I see painted at any give time, irl or online, usually is better done that the others too, giving more credability to the idea of this being a hobbyist focused setting atm,
you know looking back the old fatemaster did kinda show off a bit of skin, granted he was wearing a robe that showed off the nipple. Guess GW are still prudes for that. Still would have liked a shield though.
>>97524403>>97524343Oh shit, it lives? Word.
>>97527295At independent stores, most GW sales are directly from GW>>97527373It was established they sell nowhere near the 2% they claim
>>97528678Lmao gw is so fucking expensive people are using other stores. 40ks numbers are accurate in 3rd party stores as well so theres no reason to believe aos's are other than cope
>>97527476Steve is an obese lazy piece of shit. He doesn't want to have to edit or hire an editor, and the lazy live format allows him to get more gibs from his whales. That's the sole reason.
>>97524352I don't play underworlds but I'm getting these guys
>>97528615Come on, Spitewood didn't release that long ago.
>>97526677tf u mean the stairs in that fyreslayer pic are so small dwarfs could easily climb themalso i mainly like it cause the statues remind me of the ones from hokuto no ken picrel
>>97526316>>which is basically never correctincorrectPeople speculating about "what makes sense for GW to do next" are wrong 99.9% of the time, thems just the hard facts, deal with it.
>>97527688>Even kits that were meant to go to TOW like the entire Sunsteala range were redirected into TOW because of executive decisions.GigaRetard
>>97527688>Even kits that were meant to go to TOW like the entire Sunsteala range were redirected into TOW because of executive decisions.delusional, are you the same guy that thinks whfb was selling better than 40k at the time?
Age of Sigmar
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>>97525905Its all about practice. Take your time and learn along the way. Its also cloth on big fat dudes, you can either go wrinkly or not wrinkly at all.
