Previous: >>97516440>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ:Uh oh! Your LGS made a new commander rule that you are only allowed to run one Ravnica color pair forever. What color pair do you choose?
>>97523570>TQGolgari. Graveyards and +1/+1 Counters forever!
>>97523570>TQI'm feeling Gruul at the moment
>>97523570>TQI guess Simic.
Making a UG devoid deck and need 9 cuts if anyone could suggest some. The deck is all tagged if that helps.https://moxfield.com/decks/AC5SWXF31EeMfcV7bT_aLg>>97523570Gruul. There's honestly a lot of variety. I have 4 commanders in it, and would have 5 if not for making that deck into a naya deck. There's also a ton of other c9mmanders I looked over and picked out for my buddy who was struggling to find one he liked.
>>97523588>>97523590>>97523593Filthy green players>>97523570>TQI'mma pick Dimir
>>97523570>TQOrzhov is my current number-of-decks leader, so I guess that. Gruul would probably be more honest, though.
>>97523570I already have 6 boros decks. I think I'll be fine.
>>97523617Most based poster in edhg
>>97523602Get your ass ready cuz Primetime is coming
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>37 land deck>gotten flooded two games in a row>had to mulligan a 0-land hand in the second game only to draw 5 lands in the next one and then draw 3 more lands over the next 3 turns>not even playing physically so i can't blame bad shufflingwhat the fuck man
Anyone have a changelings deck? Looking for advice on what sort of ratio of changelings and lords to run, as well as suggestions for tribal effects to include.
>>97523570>What color pair do you choose?It should have been Izzet. But Ive been cheating on Niv Mizzet with Teysa
>>97523570>TQIzzet, the color pair I have six decks of already
>>97523674Shuffling skill issue.
>buy an entire deck's worth of cards>That one card that was mailed out first but still hasn't arrived yet but everything else has
>>97523712>>buy an entire deck's worth of cards>>That one card that was mailed out first but still hasn't arrived yet but everything else hasI have one large package with a High Noon for Taii Wakeen and a bunch of pauper cards and it never arrived despite all my other shit arriving. I contacted them on TCG player and they are like ya we shipped it two weeks ago and its probably delays because of weather. So basically its gone, theres no way it shows up.
Post decks
>>97523731> Knuckles, The EchidnaNope. Do not play that card sir. Put it back in your hand and untap your lands. You may use a blood token to discard it. SIR. That is unapproved UB sir! No! I have to take the card sir! JUDGE! AIIIEEEEE
>>97523731
>>97523760What are you talking about? That's just a Bloomburrow card.
>>97523731my friend made it for me. I'm too lazy to do an irl pic of it but it has red sleeves except Jaws, he's in a cool blue sleeve.
bought this for a dollar yesterday what decks do I put it in imo
Spicy tech for this fellow?
>>97523831insane combo with nethroi just trust me
>>97523831
>>97523831currently works with one commander with no frills or setup
>>97523870masterchefbros....
I messed up in my spelltable game. I was playing kraven into Phage and Grist. I ended up casting my force of despair at the end of Phages turn after he finally played the damn thing for once. Then Grist had 1 (one) 1/1 (one)/(one) insect onboard and still managed to find lethal with a Craterhoof play and no haste giver. I should have saved the Force of Despair. It was clear Phage didn't have lethal. I had the fucking acid rain to clear his board cleanly on my turn anyhow. Then I could have killed him via commander damage and 1v1d Grist.
>>97523365I wish it was better.
>>97523679
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna build the slampig.
>>97524010why? its pretty shit
>>975240105 o'clock beard shadowCan never unsee
pleasedonotunbandocksidepleasedonotunbandocksidepleasedonotunbandockside
>>97524054I can't see this no matter how hard I try to
>>97524010A woman looking down while viewed from below with overhead lighting has to be the most unflattering angle possible.
>>97523870Except there are lots of commaders that have that ability?
>>97524010My neighbour.
>>97524213Intensely gay post
>>97524210>t.
>>97524210You need to download the latest Chud NPC OS to run delusions that hard>>97523919Nice fat bastard
>>97524344>"with overhead lighting">posts picture w/o overhead lighting
>>97524394what does this even mean I just don't see a 5 o clock shadow in the art
>>97524007Is this beast's name pronounced vo-zja or is it vo-dja?
>>97524573yes
You guys hyped for the hybrid mana change?
>Aetherflux Reservoir is kill
>>97524210>>97524489We'll it is true that I'm racist, maybe that's the reason
>>97524054Fuck, I see it too.>Greenish-band around chin/jawline
Pulled this guy. I like the art and I like building commanders I pulled from packs. I already have some tribals and dinos don't excite me much. I also have an exit from exile precon I don't enjoy a slot. You think it's feasible to build some discover/exile/blink deck or are the themes too spread?
>>97524681If you're solely depending on the commander for the discover trigger, you could feasibly build the deck around impactful <5 drops that blink and build value.
>>97524681>>97524711Congregation at Dawn finding resto, felidar guardian and flickerwisp or some shit and then getting your discover trigger off sounds kinda funny.
oh man I can't wait for the shitstorm. any changes they make will make people seethe
Instead of unbanning dockside they should just admit its a massive design fail and make Dockside 2 that either targets one opponent or just makes fucking tapped treasures.
>>97524681>Dinosaur retard-proof valueSo sick of this tribe.
>>97524866No unbans will make people angry too so wotc is better off following their bottom line and unban stuff
>>97524926The problem is all the unbans would fucking suck.Ive literally seen people say Primeval Titan is okay yo unban "because I'd just get two forests whats the problem."
>>97524950No the problem is you can't stay in your bracket 2 laneBracket 3 is more than just "b2+3gc"
>>97524958>He uses bracketsHi Gavin I didn't know you browsed 4chan.No real person uses that shitty system irl BTW.
>>97524866That is the fate for any autist hobby. >>97524950The funny thing is that he's a powercrept grave titan now too.
>>97524926the format is in a good place and there is no reason nor financial insentive for them to rock the boat
>>97524967>he only plays in his basementHow fun is it being a schizo worrying about something you dont even care about?Well, let me answer that for youBecause you know deep in your black heart that nobody will take your rule zero seriously anymore once wotc unbans enough toys KEK
>>97524972>the format is in a good placeYet again b2 babies continue to dabble in higher brackets when they dont even know the right land counts
>>97524979>Go to LGS>be asked what bracket I'm playing>I don't pay attention to that stuff, they're jank-y piles. If anything's too strong I'll just swap I guess?
I just want to RAPE bracket 3 games with cards that have justifiably been on the banlist. LET ME RAAAPE
>>97524979Anon I live in a major metropolitan area here on the east coast US.We have half a dozen LGS here with a 30-40 minute drive/taxi/public transport and every single one of them is plastered with lgbt flags and safe space redditor affirmations, and even THEY look at you funny if you bring up brackets.The literal huggy wuggy no hurt feefees crowd this shit was designed thinks its fucking retarded, but for some reason idiots like you still cope and insist it's this beloved infallible system.Maybe instead of projecting and being a nogames you should go out and actually interact with real people like the average magic player does on a friday evening
>>97524996>how do you define what's too strong?>idiot stammers, hems and hawsMany such cases
>>97525005>we all laugh at your brackets!!!>oh god gavin please dont unban primetime...You are sweating baby boy, tick tock
>>97524979>same post>same insults>same phrasingNeat. Did you realize you're the only one who cares about this childish safe space nonsense?
a friendly reminder that wotc is too pussy to ban cards which makes the gamechanger list is just a banlist without tanking the value of the cards
>>97525024I'm not the one pretending to be above it all while at the same time clutching their pearls at a dockside unban btw
>>97525032And neither am I, anon who is eternally butt ravenged by thoracle and types "Gavin" so many times it has to be some sort of fetish.
>>97525022Its okay anon, everyone ITT knows you have nothing else going on.Sorry youre a nogames.
>>97525042>and neither am iCool, so why are you so stressed about unban talk again? Emrakul is never gonna hurt you you know
>>97525044Reminder that rule zero by definition is nogames, nothing more than baby games full of unlimited mulligans and takebacks
How long til D Day bros? Im hyped for the announcement.
>>97525052I do not care. Unban the mox and tolarian academy.I am mocking you, a shitty internet detective perpetually jerking yourself off over people in their basements and the concept that you know one of the corpo figureheads names, relentlessly same fagging, endlessly shitposting, and mostly repeating yourself as a prosthetic for your low level of skill, your inability to make friends, your rampant new faggotry, and your vicarious vitriol.
>>97525065why
>>97525073>he is so madConcession accepted
>>97525080Either it will be good, and bad players will start flinging themselves from buildings, or it will be bad, and good players will stop playing. Win win.
>>97525073Adhom
>>97525088Oh look, the exact same thing he has said 206 times since January 1st.
>>97525103Oh look the exact same whining he does whenever he gets pushback
>>97525115Who does? You have said pushback 47 times since january 1st.
>>97524967Literally everyone ive played with uses brackets doe
>>97525010>how do you define what's too strong?Did I rape the table and it became a 3v1 where I still won? That's too strong.I know it's hard for autistics to understand nuance but still.
>>97525122>hey guys now seems a good time for wotc to unban cards to increase their bottom line and solidify brackets>...YOU TROLL!!!!Hahaha cry more
I'm pretty sure this is the 500th time I've posted it (maybe 3rd time here specifically)If someone makes an argument over whether a card should/shouldn't be banned based off of players exercising personal self-control, their argument should instantly be totally disregarded.If someone is capable of exercising self-control with a problematic card (e.g. Paradox Engine), this makes them the exception, not the rule. They are allowed to petition other players for allowing said card in any game with the argument they are going to use the card fairly. However this does not change how the banlist (and by extent, the GC list) should be used, which is to say, they should be used as flags for cards that become problematic when used to their fullest extent, or at the very least, when the person using it isn't deliberately sandbagging to avoid obvious interactions. A card should not be allowed to remain unbanned simply because there's a hypothetical scenario that someone is using it "fairly". By this logic there is no need for any banlist because people could be using Black Lotus to cast Craw Wurm, which defeats the point of having any format regulations in the first place because now you have, once again, shifted the entire burden of keeping the game playable onto the playerbase rather than the authority that's supposed to actually be maintaining it. This has never once worked in any game ever (see: Team Fortress 2, Dead by Daylight, Dungeons & Dragons). All it does is create a nebulous set of unwritten rules that vary from person to person and ends up creating an utterly miserable experience for anyone outside a closed group that exclusively plays with each other, at which point, once again, any sort of rules authority is a moot point because they're also free to operate in the opposite direction and unrestrict elements they feel punish a strategy that's fair in the context of their group.
>>97525132Why would they unban cards (no direct profit until you reprint, at which point sales are hampered by secondary market) when they could instead just print a brand-new One Ring tier card (100% direct profit)
>>97525127>hems and haws>still nothingStill waiting for the definition of "what's too strong" baby boy
>>97525132You have used this post template 86 times since January 1st.
>>97525143Because reprint equity is more than just powercreeping the game beyond what it already experienced since 2019
>>97525148>you're the schizo promised to me 3000 threads ago
>>97525138Finally, another smart anon in the room
>>97523607Who are you running? I have a fairly lower power Kambal deck I enjoy. Cant decide if I want to go stax heavy or more creature since basically all my decks win via combat damage
Where is the announcement boys?
>>97523804Mono color decks with lots of non token permanents
>>97525191roughly 50 minutes from now I think
>>97525204Shit, I thought it was at 10est and was clapping that f5.
>>97525191in 10 seconds
>>97525191yesterday
>>97525179Kambal was my first and the best 'tuned' out of the ones I have. He's probably like yours, light stax. I also have Ratadrabik of Urborg as a Legendary Matters graveyard deck, Eriette of the Charmed Apple enchantments, and Greasefang Okiba Boss vehicle recursion built.
>>97525025Any word when we will see the new list?
>>97524638Not incredibly.
>>97525025>tanking the value of cardsWhile they would care about hurting sales for upcoming sets already being printed and worked on with chase card reprints, they don't give a single shit about tanking the value of the secondary market.
>>97524489is it possible to build ugly bastard tribal in commander?
>>97525318Yeah, proxy all the cards as you.
Errata Dockside to tapped treasure token and we're good
>>97525355G U S H
>>975238313 mana death trigger
>>97525355>og snow landsDelightful.
>>97525346
Rhystic will be banned right? It's hated in b3 casual and warps/slows cedh. B4 is only place I see people shrug at it cause they play around it or have removal but I feel like they're the minority of players
>>97524711>>97524799Maybe not just the commander but a few other discover cards like that one dino. Mainly I want to jam faldorn and passionate archaeologist in there. But also ruin my friends' day with goblin settler
>>97525411>warps/slows cedhReminder that the old cedh meta of dockside jewlotus and crypt is better looked upon by cedh players and them being banned made rhystic more oppressive
>>97525411Rhystic will be removed from GC saying that Sheldon's ghost visited Gavin and told him the most miserable card ever is actually the spirit of the format. Accompanying this will be a 1-mana colorless artifact creature in Marvel Superheroes that just says "Your opponents can't cast spells." because that was how Mark interpreted Gavin's message.
>>97525411>a card gets banned because people won't pay the 1lmao
>>97525484ikr? silly casuals thinking they should be taken seriously
>>97525411They will give Rhystic a new errata with cumulative upkeep.
>>97525484I blame the combonigger thinking he can gets away with it.
ZESTY ELF STATUS?????
>biorhythm>lutri (banned as companion)lame but oh well it's something
>>97525528Are you going to livestream the suicide when it's still banned?
Its 11 estWhere the fuck is it
>>97525484>b-but if I pay the 1, I won't be able to play my combo piece...
>Biorythm unbanned It's time
Farewell is a gamechanger now, should have been from the start.
Speculators in shambles
Where is the link you dumbfaggots
>>97525619https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
>>97525626Nothingburger. I will now proxy hystic into every b3 deck with blue to punish casuals since apparently it's too beloved to be recognized as a problem
>they are considering IonaDO IT RIGHT NOW
>Biorhythm unbannedFinally some god damn E.D.H.
>>97525626>nothingburgerLMAO
>self imposed a rule that every unbanned card has to spend some time in GC jail>Almost immediately break said rule for LutriBravo, Gavin
>>97525644how dare you sarcastically go against the wishes of a dead man
>>97525626>no hybrid changeAll is goodApologize now
>>97525644My exact thought. Fuck the speculator's
>>97525626Primetime faggots in shambles.
>>97525626Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>97525661Not as a companion he's incredibly shitty and there are a billion other 3 cost spell doublers already. Just as a 99 card he's extremely mid.
>>97525626>iona considered more than griselbrandfucking bowmasters should be enough to keep it in check, alongside with all the free removal people can run nowadays
>>97525626hybridfags status???
*stares menacingly*
>>97525701coping; next time for real
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026
I'm so relieved that none of you fucks got your fucking deranged way
>>97525701>Its so split we don't want to piss off half the community by doing it so we wont!That is their reasoning Retards are going to whine no matter what and they will get over it in 3 months after the change when it ends up being a big nothingburger to complain about.
>>97525718>Farewell is a GCWon't stop retards from running it but sure.
>considering unbanning griselbranddo it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it
>>97525732i refuse to believe its split. its a nonsense change that only has a few people circlejerking over the same 2-3 arguments that are instantly debunked in like 4 words.
>don't forget we've got a special announcement on Monday>it's nothinghuh??
>>97525744I said this like a decade ago. It's really not that good in commander.
>>97525718We have to live in a world where Sundering Titan and Iona are banned for no reason but Rhysitc Study and Thassa's Oracle get to live on. It is absurd how little sense this makes.
>>97525732Literally no one wanted it changed before Maro started stroking his dick about it
>>97525707Winds into Bio
>they thought rhystic study gets banned>they thought griselbrand and lotus get unbanned
>>97525694Doesn't matter, it's still the rule they made for themselves and they still broke it
>>97525768for 14 mana at this point sure have it, game 2?
>>97525768When you have a billion mana I would hope you have something to win outright
>>97525770>They've been telling us we'd all kill ourselves once primetime came out, which was 100% going to happen, aren't you reading the articles? It came to me in a dream, follow the starcharts ITS IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!
>rhystic is a beloved cardFucking where?
>>97525626>Griselbrand absolutely not ok>Iona almost allowed outHoly fuck. What a bunch of fucking retards
WotC knows Rhystic Study creates miserable play patterns. They also know it makes them a shitload of money.
>>97525701Seething and coping, with a fair chance of dilating. There are hints of L with a sprinkle of ratio, with maiden less coming in clutch
>>97525757gotem
So why no Golos in the 99 if Lutri is out with parol?
>>97525806No? It's just sphere of resistance that's optional.
>>97525595>Farewell is a gamechanger now
>>97525842>Symmetrical vs asymmetricalBased retard
>>97525829wotc knows that most of the playerbase are retards, or angleshooting retards who would play dumb at how banned as commander/banned in the 99/banned in other zones works.
>>97525626You dont say.
>>97523570I'd go Orzhov. Dimir, Golgari, and Azorius are nice, too, but Orzhov gives me room for aggro, midrange, control, and combo decks that I enjoy, and tends to have my favorite aesthetics.
>>97525856You do realize sphere of resistance is never symmetrical, right? Like maybe in theory if you're retarded, but any deck using it is designed around it.
>>97525871>lots of players are using brackets >plenty don't use itWHICH WAY GAVIN????????????
Suck my dick, land players. He is never getting unbanned.
>Rhystic not banned>Thassa's not banned>Primetime still banned>Griesbrand still bannedThey don't care about the health of this format hard confirmed.
>>97525893And he shouldn't. Same people who want Prophet of Krupix all share one similarity: they never actually played against it.
>>97525355Is this just legacy Delver, but in EDH form? Does that even work?
>>97525886It's a tacit admission in person everyone hates brackets, but the volume of online support is enough to justify it. The online support is an incredibly vocal minority and most people do not give a shit.
>>97525893>2 lands for 6why is this banned? do people not run removal nowadays?
Final few hours to invest in this meme before it shoots to the moon
>>97525921>Let me cast my removal spell as you are tutoring for you two combo lands already
>>97525921>immediate access to Field of the Dead>Urborg+Cabal>on repeat if it manages to circle the tableFound the newfriend.
>>97525871>make format defining system>don't use the system to define the formatlmao
>>97525938Anon, before you call someone a newfriend, please list actually good land combos. Like the Talon Gates ones that actually win the game.
>>97525871>>97525886>>97525909>plenty don't>we don't trust them to rule zero it outgavin is also shitting on rule zero casuals, unreal lol
>>97525921Obviously two lands are scarier than Thoracle getting protected by Pact or FoW
>>97525902Il second this, Prophet is absolutely busted bullshit
>>97525958literally even the concept of rule zero shouldn't come within a mile of commander format update discussions. Imagine if the NFL qualified every rules decision they made by saying "well we need to be careful about how this affects thanksgiving backyard family football games"
>>97525953talon gates require cradle/sanctum and a 1/1, not the most robust combo out there
>>97525978>literally even the concept of rule zero shouldn't come within a mile of commander format update discussionscorrectrule zero casuals are so dumb they don't even know they're being looked down on
>>97525988well when they see (you) so far below them..
Stop shitposting, Gavin.
>>97526000dunning kruger effect on display clearly
>>97525979While true, better than anything to do with cabal coffers.
>entire argument for Griselbrand is "we know he's bullshit but everyone thinks he's really fucking cool"Extremely based
Dockside, Jlo, and Crypt will never see the light again.
>>97526014right, i wouldn't use coffers/talon gates/dark depths with primetime anyways
>>97525883>any deck using it is designed around itAs opposed to rhystic study, which can be jammed into literally any deck it's legal in with no changes and instantly get value
>>97526004yeah, shitposters really do overvalue themselves to the extreme.
>>97525626>thassa's isnt bannedshit list lmao
>>97526033Crypt isn't even a real magic card and should have never been allowed to begin with
>>97526033Correct. I don't know why people don't seem to understand that WotC can just print a replacement literally any time they want and make money on new chase cards rather than unbanning existing cards they make no money off of
iona/griselbrand being considered (as GCs obviously) simply means entomb is also being considered as a GC
>>97525673All I learned from this is that if I piss and shit loud and long enough I get my way
>>97526058well wotc can just unban cards then reprint them too.
>>97526054Thassa's is never getting banned, it's already confined to cEDH and the players there don't seem to hate it.
>>97526048but enough about you being so adamant that thassa's will be banned, enjoy being combo'd out
>>97526046Less value than sphere, yes.
>>97526076nice shcizo post.
>>97526063If CropRot is a GC of course Entomb is going to be one.
>>97525626>investorfags lost money betting on cardboard again
>>97526090Investors are deranged
Just implement point system for each bracket to make it more clear.
>>97526066No. What you have to learn is that if you offer sound arguments, factually correct positions, and a noble disposition, the man of intellect that is Gavin will have truth prevail. Like it happened here with hybrid mana.Very ballsy not to bend to Maro, who is livid thinking EDH, the most popular thing in magic, is something he did not create
>>97526090we won with biorhythm though, baffling post
>>97526080>Less value than sphereLolLmao
>>97526099>>97526105It's not even a good card, it will see minimal play
>>97526090>lostMy Rhystic investment is safe
Insurrection plus biorhythm, thanks
>>97526116Gruul aggro would love it to close out the game as fast as they can.
>>97526116>It's not even a good card, it will see minimal playexactly so imagine all the whining about the card beforeand speculators don't care about the actual strength of a card, only its perceived strength (and rarity)
>>97526101This but entirely unironically, everything I've seen from Gavin has him as one of the only people at JotC who isn't a complete fucking retard or a massive slimy kike or both
>>97526108Sphere is a hardlock if you dont have mana. Study is a may, and if you are competent, you will always pick the best option.
>>97526145correctthis is why cedh is a midrange slog, because they actually treat rhystic as a sphere
>>97526130>16 mana comboGet that cedh shit outta my face
>>97526156Also, the best draw cards in the format are very life intensive, the fastest combo decks often (not always) use few creatures, and wotc has a fetish for printing fuckbusted small creatures.
>>97526099Any chance i can still sell my primeval 's at the inflated speculator's price? I have at least 5 from cracking packs
>>97526143Though my post is obviously in jest, I do share your sentiment. He dropped the ball in some matters (powerful white cards) but the guy has grown on me, also I appreciate the clear effort you can see he put into bettering his speech since he became a spokesperson for the format. Him and Rachel Weeks are part of the very few I don't see as retarded spiritual jews like the rest
how do you retards still not get that rhystic is nearly the best card in the game after sol ring
>adnaus still GC>primetime still bannedGay>biorhythm unbanned>lutri free at lastAcceptable
>>97526156I dont play cedh because I have noone to play with but I watch Playing with Power and they literally dont pay the one more often than they do.Stop making shit up.
>>97526221Rhystic study is literally just an optional tax collector. Sphere of resistance is pretty garbage. Doesn't impede much>but its one sidedYeah thats a benefit but ultimately its still just sphere of resistance. Which wouldnt be considered a strong card even if it was asymmetrical. https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28oracle%3ASpells+oracle%3Ayour+oracle%3Aopponents+oracle%3Acast+oracle%3Acost%29+%28game%3Apaper%29+prefer%3AbestAlmost none of these see real play, and those that do are considered decent.
>>97526245It's a... quantumn sort of problem. If you have a retard in your group who never plays the one, paying the one is meaningless. If you have a deck that requires setup and will lose in the late game, paying the one might brick you during a key turn. And almost universally, those dorks play all in heavy mulligan glass cannon sort of decks, which warps the meta into a drag race.
>>97526245>i don't play cedh>i'm going to argue that cedh isn't currently a midrange meta because youtubers told me so in their prearranged games that have an incentive to allow blowouts for viewslol
Pretty sizable mail bag today.Got anything coming this week?
I can see people playing with Biorythm more since we now have earthbending.
When/where is the announcement today???
>>97526156Retard no they dont>>97526245Cedh economy is different. Casuals can pay the 1. Cedh fags need to go fast for.... reasons, so they cant pay it.
>>97526285https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
>>97525626>Lutri spiking hard>Ikora EA's are $50+>Halo Foils sold out>Biorhythm is $60 for a near mint Onslaught copyGod fucking dammit I hate cardboardfags
>>97525761Nobody plays Thassa's Oracle outside of cEDH>Inb4 but this totally real guy at my shop that we still play with does!
>>97526286>Retard no they dontretard they do, why do you think tymna-kraum, the premier midrange deck, is the most used deck in the format right now
>>97526271>medallionsWhat do you actually run these in? I used to love these and put them in a lot of decks, but over time as I was upgrading decks these were often high priority to cut.Although they potentially save you way more mana than a mana rock, I'm not happy to draw them mid to late game, and in multicolor decks especially I'd basically always rather see something that taps for mana.I pretty much only put them in monocolor decks now, and I only have a couple of those.How do you use them?
>>97526310>I'm not happy to draw them mid to late gamedo you not run sol ring?
I do agree with the changes/no changes but why did they say it was a "special" announcement lolOr was that just a rumor?
>>97526271>Gathering StoneI knew I forgot something from Lorwyn.
>>97526295FUCKINGHORSESHIT
>Farewell is a game changer now>Because it resets the boardHEY GAVIN MAYBE TELL YOUR BOSS TO STOP MAKING CARDS THAT HAVE INDESTRUCTIBLE, WARD; 100, AND LET GRAVEYARD PLAYERS WIM BY SNEEZING.STOP FUCKING WITH CARDS THAT ARE AN ANSWER TO PROBLEMS YOU CREATED.>Wahhhh it resets the gameGOOD. STOP FUCKING OVEREXTENDING.I LEARNED THIS IN FUCKING HEARTHSTONE 13 YEARS AGO.HOLY FUCKING SHIT I AM SO MAD.
>>97526262rhystic going in 100% of blue cedh decks where players know how to play around it should tell you all you need to know about it's power level, don't you me again you knuckle dragging nogames nigger
>>97526336Shut the fuck up nigger Farewell is the single strongest board wipe in the entire game
>>97526342It doesnt go in every deck. If you run black you dont really need it. And if you're going FAST it is too slow.
>>97526336i understand what you mean anon but clearly gavin is making bracket 2 a baby podwhich is fine, but in exchange bracket 3 should have more teeth to them
>>97526336unban sway of stars
>>97526348Not even top ten.
>>97525484>Retard doesn't understand what Tempo is
>>97526358name your top 10
>>97526336It hurt my rakdos chainer a lot so good ban. And that one is very resistant to hate since I can discard at instant speed
>>97526365Sure. What context are you providing?
>>97526374you are playing a game of EDH
>>97526348GOOD.We NEED strong board wipes. The power level of permanents and graveyard gets stronger EVERY FUCKING YEAR.You cant even cheese Farewell like you can CycRift. It hits your shit too.You have to think before you use it.And honestly, if youre lightyears behind and you spend a turn on 6 to bring everyone back to your level?GOOD.The card is completely fucking fair.May as well GC Hour of Revelation.
>>97526359>retard doesn't understand that it's a GC and that he should stop playing b3>nooo i don't use brackets>retard is too limp wristed to rule zero rhystic
>>97526374Boardwipes that are better then Farewell I would think
>>97526310More spells a turn, the better. At least that's my dumb logic.
>>97526374card that wipe the board
>>97526336>>Farewell is a game changer nowNo way
I have never seen Farewell played and not immediately draw the ire of everyone involved
>>97526342This isnt even a response to what I said
>>97526401Would you say it ... changed the game?
>>97526374How about "you're building a deck and need 10 boardwipes you would place before Farewell?"
>>97526416No deck needs more than maybe 3 board wipes
>>97526389You will not touch the lands, you will not play the stax piece and you will not wipe the board these things are not enjoyable ok
>>97526424>No deck needs more than maybe 3 board wipes>gets run over by tokenslop
>>97526319Are you some kind of retard? Sol Ring doesn't change how I feel about drawing medallions mid to late game.I don't even know what you're trying to convey?That Sol Ring is worse to draw late game? It's still mana positive so it's fine.That Sol Ring means you can afford to cast a medallion mid to late game? The issue isn't affording them, it's their impact on the game>>97526394Yeah no shit, that's just what the card DOES, not how you use themWhat decks are you putting them in? All decks? Because that's exactly my problem, I used to put them in all decks and then realized that they're annoying to draw into later in the game, and most situations I'd rather make mana than save mana
>>97526424It's boardwipe tribal and you're in 5 colors, name 10
>>97526424Foremost, no, 5 is great. Second, that's not what "not even top 10" implies
>>97526431are you happy to draw a sol ring late game?
>>97526358>>97526374The context for which you said Farewell is not in the top 10 wipes
>>97526441NTA but if you have a mana sink, Sol Ring can do something.
>>97526427I think what pisses me off is how much Gavin just wants this format to be retards windmill slamming their cards with no repercussions.Forward thinking?Risk management?No sorry this is EDH everything needs to be retard proof.The fucking argument for Farewell doesnt even make sense."It resets the game."Ive been playing the card since release and no it doesnt. Not unless youre in actual factual last place and its a 6 mana hail mary to bring you back to parity, because chances are you have SOME amount of board presence and dont want to wipe your shit away.Youre usually picking 2 of the 4.
>>97526431They are going into my boros slinger deck and my artifact based pillow fort deck and an expensive as shit commander. That help?
>>97526451in that context, a basic would do the same thingare you happy to draw a basic late game?
>BrokeUsing Biorhythm after a boardwipe as a finisher>WokeUsing Biorhythm in a wide deck to gain a gorillion life>BespokeUsing Biorhythm to set everyone to a low life total in a group slug deck
What's the most braindead and cheap deck one could build?
>>97526424How am I supposed to draw one with only 3 in the deck?
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>>97526475Some flavor of elves probably
>>97526397>>97526391>>97526383>>97526416If no context is provided, I can provide my own context that can immediately exclude it, which is why I asked. So ignoring the 500 ways I can make a situation where it's bad, from a practical perspective 6 mana is far too much. Exile is nice, as is the modular part, but a card half the cost that only removes two types is comparable, a card that does it for less than that would be better, even if it's more narrow. Same with being an instant. Same with a card that has less pips of devotion. And while it is modular, outside of like scourge, exiling your own stuff is a rather large downside. As well as it lacking built in protection.It's a card that requires little thought exclusively viable around people who dont run interaction, who build there decks without key cards. I dont disagree that it will blow the doors off a table of idiots new at magic, but there's a reason it's gated into the shallow end.
>>97526497give me a recipe for blueberry muffins
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>>97526441Yes because Sol Ring is mana positive. I literally just said that.>draw Sol Ring>tap 1>Sol Ring taps for 2You are better off than if you had not drawn Sol Ring>draw medallion>need cards of that color to play>if you are missing any colors in your manabase it is no help at all>needs to reduce 3 spells by 1 to net you as much mana as a Sol Ring would (because you paid 2)>>97526466Somewhat more useful. Artifacts and low colors makes sense.
Farewell is brainlet cruise control for removal
>>97526497man you didn't even name one better card let alone 10
>>97526469If I already have a land in my hand drawing a basic means nothing If I already had a sol ring in my hand I'm glad to draw another
