It's No Changes Day Edition>Bans (new)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97517346>TQWhat are you playing since all formats are perfectly balanced and needed no changes?
lol dead game
>>97527204>TQKefka Brawl, Ruby Storm, Goblins.
>Standard>No changes>Pioneer>No changes>Modern>No changes>Legacy>No changes>Vintage>No changes>Pauper>No changes
>Howdy, gamers!
Blessed that my (North American non-favela) city has a huge Premodern scene. Been playing and will continue playing Premodern. Wish I had another year to a coooooooom ulate more cards, but I guess the cat's out of the bag now and prices are spiking like crazy.
standard is actually fine right now
TTD>TTDTTD>TTDTTD>TTDTTD>TTDTTD>TTDTTD>TTDTTD>TTDTTD
>>97526461Land Spy, Mono Red Madness, Rakdos Madness, Mono Red Rally, Jund Wildfire, Grixis Affinity, Blue Faeries, Azorius Familiar, Golgari Gardens, White Weenie, Rakdos Burn, Ruby Storm, Elves, Gruul Ramp, Caw Gates all have competitive ramp shares.
>>97527204>What are you playing since all formats are perfectly balanced and needed no changes?EDH>MonksPremodern>Mystics / GW ThresholdPauper>Nothing because I'm too fucking frustrated by artifact decks
>At Pro Tour Lorwyn Eclipsed, Badgermole Cub decks represented about 40% of the Day One metagame but posted below a 50% non-mirror win rate on Day One.WotC is too stupid to realize a card with 40% meta share that is present in half of all decks is going to have a relatively flat windrate.
So what games are you guys playing instead of Magic?I am playing Master Duel as my 'video-game TCG', and Riftbound as my 'IRL TCG', I am enjoying both of those games a lot. I am trying to learn the VSK9 deck in Masterduel, and I have a Teemo deck in Riftbound.
>Over the last year, Standard has gone wrong multiple times for the same reason: a lack of adequate counterplayoh my fucking god these people are the dumbest most brainded sacks of potatoes frontal lobe caved in knuckle-dragging motherfuckers on the planet
>>97527294>LeagueHow's your transition going xister?
>Modern rules!
>>97527284The beatings will continue. Morale doesn't factor into it they're just gonna continue
>>97527204>No Changes Day EditionWhat are you saying? Plenty of changes in the only format that wotc cares about
Estrogen, not even once
>>97527294Riftbound is hilarious, they really learned nothing with any other TCG. How do you Panglacial Wurm yourself in the first set?
>>97527204When this faggots will leave UB aside and actually care for this game? Balance is trash yet they refuse to work on it.mm
> StandardDragon Storm> PioneerGoblins, Ilharg Sneak attack slop>Kitchen TableBattle BoxI'm trying to quit arena, but I am an addict :(
>Despite Lurrus of the Dream-Den being the first card seen in a large portion of games, there is enough archetype diversity among Lurrus shells for it to feel like a healthy part of Vintage.the same fucking lieevery fucking timethe same fucking shitjust to not admit they're idiots for unbanning The Power 0 Cat.
>>97527342It's Vintage retard. This is the broken as fuck shit format. Go play something else if you want balance.
>>97527351>It's Vintage retard. This is the broken as fuck shit format.Yes, and Lurrus is too powerful for it.
>>97527333It's a quick cash grab, they don't care if the game is actually playable. Why do you think they're sending shills to constantly post about it?
>>97527204>TQTainted pact>>97527229Based ajani
>>97527286No, they are perfectly aware of that. They simply refuse to acknowledge it in public. Flourishing.
Even though this game sucks I am going to keep playing it for now. I exclusively only play Brawl, and Freya is the only Commander for me.
>>97527340>I'm trying to quit arena, but I am an addictSpider-man set made me drop it for almost half a year. I only came back now to draft Nurwyn.
>Phlage and the whole Energy core package dont get touchedYeah nah fuck these guys, but atleast Im not a Pioneer player holy shit
>>97527355maybe if you don't want low cost recursion to be powerful maybe you shouldn't play the format with the legendarily stupidly broken and banned in every other format 0 cost cards
If you could go back in time and mind control design, what would you change?>hard mode: no preventing conception of edh
>>97527410>but atleast Im not a Pioneer player holy shitThe situation is dire.
>>97527418>maybe if you don't want low cost recursion to be powerful maybeWell good thing I didn't say that.
>>97527421Badgermole lands don't come back when exiled
>>97527458If it had cost XB maybe it'd be good enough for the job.
>>97527314take your trash to its proper place >>97513262
>>97527469>If it had cost XB maybe it'd be good enough for the job.Nope. Badgermole land return effect is a delayed trigger of Earthbending, not an ability granted to the land. Removing abilities does nothing to stop them recurring.
>>97527421I'd use my mind control to make the guy who decided the defining keyword for monks is prowess shoot himself, and whoever decided monks are jeskai hang themself.
>>97527478Guess it's even shittier than I thought
>>97527469This card is my go-to example of removal that pushes the game into a fucking coinflipIf you are on the play this wipes your opponents board on turn 3 and can be a 3-for-1 or even more with dorks aroundOn the draw this is an overcosted 1-for-1 every turn or uncastableWe already hit a meta where its like 70% winrate on the play and they keep printing shit like badgermole that makes it even worse
>Pioneer>no changesJust take this poor format out the back and shoot it already. Put it out of its misery.
>>97527340>> Standard>Dragon Stormshould be>StandardOtter Storm
>>97527611>firdoch coreoh that's actually pretty clever. huh.
>>97527646Firdoch Core & Mutable Explorer are the best demons for annex, dragons for exhales & mox jasper, elves+wolves for Voja, spiders for Demera, the list goes on...
>>97527204>TQIn commander I'm playing wizard control, and dimir dungeons.For standard I put together a flying aggro list with airbender legacy and emptreal eagle. It's not very good but I like it
>>97527521Play flash creatures and counter magic.Legit solves the board wipe issue
I just want Start Your Engines to work, but they specifically designed it as a "win more" mechanic that finally kicks in when you finish your opponent...
they should print the original counterspell in standard
>>97527690how do flash creatures and counter magic save you from simic on the play with t1 elves t2 badgermole leyline weaver t3 ouroboroid + more shit
>>97527770>order a 5 cent basic land among some other cards>get everything but the basic landYeah they're going to send me my land.
Looking at reddit, edh b&r thread has 4 times more comments than Magic b&r.Just so you know which format is most popular.
>>97527748>speed race set mechanic>slowest mechanic printed in living memorywhat did they mean by this
>>97527809>>97527809You mean more people are discussing a banlist change, then people discussing a post saying "no changes at this time"?No formats anyone plays except commander got any changes today and everyone and their mother has been calling for Lutri to get this treatment since the card was spoiled in Ikoria
>>97527809>than Magic b&r.what are we supposed to discuss with "No changes"?
>>97527854The mental retardation of wotc employees who banned half of legacy dimir's cards, including one that was legal since forever because they refuse to ban tamyio and other fire cards.
>1 mana planeswalker that gives godlike card advantage, only cost is it has to attack>it has flying and is backed up by counters so there is no way it can't attackWhat were they thinking?
This card will remain in Pioneer for several months. Crazy.
>>97527885>This card will remain in Pioneer forever.
>>97527204EDH - Saffi Erksdottir comboPremodern - Suicide Black2015 Modern - TronKitchen Table - Birthing Pod
>>97527885imagine that this was supposed to be live in a standard format with a mox right now
You guys excited for turtles?
>>97527893What is your kitchen table pod deck like?
>>97527903I play mtga and will never have to experience anything more degenerate than final fantasy and dungeons & dragons thanks
>>97527903For the upcoming crash and burn of this god forsaken game? Not so much.
>>97527908Pretty typical toolbox deck but without the infinite persist combos and no full stax package. I play it with friends where we have our partially built decks from back in college.
>>97527903WAS four years ago
>>97528050remember when this nigga beat the "unbeatable" board state
>No bans>Standard is completely nonwhite >“Decks of EVERY color are seeing success!”
>>97528095White is not a color.
>They still havent banned Ephemerate or Diddler or Phlage or Ajani MH3 yetThese niggas dont play they format
>>97528124>These niggas dont play they formatNo, they just don't play.Not format. At all.
>>97528079No. Story?
>>97528144>No. Story?He beat the "unbeatable" board state.
>>97528124ArenaGODS keep winning bros
"the "unbeatable" board state" is slang for "my meat" btw
>>97528161>"the "unbeatable" board state" is slang for "my meat" btw*thud*
>>97528050This fucking turtle is so ancient I was playing it in 60%+ winrate Trumpeting Carnosaur combo decksand I'm still playing 60%+ winrate Trumpeting Carnosaur decks right fucking nowholy shit this game never rotates
>>97528144imagine a board state that was unbeatable prior to the printing of colossal skyturtle then imagine colossal skuturtle was printed, its not hard
From the river to the sea, mono White will be free
>>97528220Inshaserra, brother.
>>97528134Uhhh commander?
>>97528124What's diddler lol
>>97527885>for several months.do we tell him?
>>97528289Quantum diddler, because it diddles card draw at legacy level
I'm so tilted at the justification for pauper changes. You can tell that fucker Gavin doesn't play the format and just checks a spreadsheet between his commander games. Yes, tolarian terror, the vanilla creature that folds to edicts and graveyard hate, is the problem, and not those fucker chrysalis and refurbished familiar which bring value just by existing. Pauper needs better stewards.
>>97527279>white weenies, elves and faeries good in a format where lava dart existsthe only good decks in that list are Spy (walls), monored madness, rally, familiars and affinity.and you're missing blue terror
>>97528447The entire pauper format panel only plays midrange shitpiles compromised of dispute draw effects, emblems and overpowered creatures like refurbished and chrysalis, those retards sometimes lose to red and terror and that's why they are considering banning them.
>>97528447>between his commander games>implying he plays any format at all
>>97528476>red isn't a problemso true sister please unban monastery swiftspear
>>97528460I'm answering the poster complaining about terror.
>>97528447Tolarian Terror has been an incredibly powerful deck for multiple years now, why lie? With Mental Note it can play straight through grave hate no problem by simply dumping shit in the grave faster then you can take it out and the "vanilla that folds to edicts" costs less then any edict in the format.
>>97528544they think it's a bad deck because you can whiff and mill terrors with thought scour/mental note. when in reality you have both brainstorm and ponder to fix your top before milling
>>97528544Anon is for some reason convinced like 10% of the pauper playerbase is playing a bad deck for no reason and everyone is hallucinating wins that don't exist
oh man I didn't realize how busted mox jasper is in floodcaller combogenerates +2 mana 1x prowess on its own and +1 mana +2 prowess from each boomerang basicsyou know its retarded when its turn 3, you started by casting firdoch core off 3 lands on the field and none in hand, and 10 spells later you're leveling up stormchaser's talent to get back a cantrip and still have mana to cast it lmao
>>97527261Fuck off shill, post hands poojeet
>>97528514unironically yes, it was never ban worthy, tomb raider should've been banned asap, the basics of the game, card that requires multiple cards as investments for high risk high reward vs a card that requires 0 risk and is generically more overpowered and scales much better in multiples.>>97528544It's a shit deck because it only wins through luck, mental note/though scour are really fucking bad when casted on their own and you always need to pair them with ponder and brainstorm, not to mention the deck easily folds to kcs and any removal heavy control deck has a literal bye vs it, I've never ever lost to it with UB or any black pile, it's literally impossible, furthermore it has a terrible match up against elves, cawgates, heroic and bunch of t2 decks like WW and more, there is a reason why it never won a paupergeddon, the closest it got was getting to the finals were it completely got raped on camera by cawgates, the games weren't even close, it's a fun deck because you take a lot of actions that have non-linear consequences, sometimes you can scam your opponent but you can easily get blown out on your way back, the power it can field is less consistent than RG monsters shitting out 20 power by t4.
>>97528723>It's a shit deck because it only wins through luckIt has EIGHT PERCENT OF THE META you fucking retard if it was a bad deck nobody would play it. You're just genuinely delusional- when in any point of this game have people just hallucinated that a deck is good? If it was bad it would get shitstomped but it evidently isn't because, again, it's eight percent of the meta.>mental note/though scour are really fucking bad when casted on their own and you always need to pair them with ponder and brainstormNo the fuck they aren't. Over half the fucking deck is instants and sorceries. You genuinely don't know what you're talking about, the odds of dumping a terror are minimal and even if this happens, you literally do not care- it's not even a whiff. You still dumped 1 or even two instants/sorceries in the grave (if the other wasn't a terror or land) and now are more likely to draw instants.>any removal heavy control deck has a literal bye vs it, I've never ever lost to it with UB or any black pile, it's literally impossibleIt sounds like you're pubstomping shit players because, again, this is a t1 deck. If it was terrible against black, which is three of the other t1s, it would not be t1. Are you just illiterate and incapable of comprehending that Terror costs 1? You're going down on tempo massively by dumping removal on it and edicts just mean they lose a delver.>durthermore it has a terrible match up against elves, cawgates, heroic and bunch of t2 decks like WW and morelmao no the fuck it doesn't. it can reliably have 10 power on the board by turn 3 and has incredibly strong sideboard options against all of these
I got the full non-foil Secret Lair. Anyone else get it? Looks like all they have is foil left and none of the Black lights and Dark Dungeons one. Glad I woke up early for it to get my displacer kitty.
So is the game officially dead?
>>97528723>the power it can field is less consistent than RG monsters shitting out 20 power by t4.15 power protected by counterspells on turn 3 with 4 cards on hand > 20 power on turn 4
>>97528846Not dead. They're bleeding their player base to other games. They've been losing market share for a long time. They're being sued for using mtg as a cash cow. But I really don't see that going anywhere unless they actively lied to investors.MtG is far from dead. People who whine and scream and shit themselves on here aren't the people buying cards. But it's weakening, and many new card games are rising from it's ashes.
>>97528855when is terror dumping 15 power turn 3 lol
>>97528863Island. Hold mana. Mental note on end step. Island. Hold mana. Thought scour. Mental note. both on end step.Island. Terror, terror, terror. Very easy to happen with how quickly it churns through the deck.
>>97528544>>97528602Yes, it's strong. It doesn't completely invalidate other strategies because it has counterplay. See the matchup vs elves or black sac if you want to have a giggle.
>>97528893Now do it without rigging the deck, please
>>97528844Bulbasaur kitty. Uninstalled arena a few hours ago. Soon I will be free of this faggotry. Just have to get through a couple weeks of withdrawal
>>97528904>this deck has poor matchups against two decks so it's bad terror absolutely fucking barrels through ww by the way
>>97528932That's just what they look like. See you tomorrow.
>>97528824>It has EIGHT PERCENT OF THE METAThis already tells me you don't know what the fuck that means, everything else is easily discarded.
>>97528893Cool, I can goldfish too, kcs into toxin after you tapped out t3, shake my hand?
>>97528960do you think an 8% meta share just happens? that everyone is hallucinating that the deck is good? it's existed for years at this point if it wasn't good people would fucking stop playing it you dumb fucking retard
>>97528971Do you understand how that meta share came to be?
>>97528969nah. Still l, good play anon. anyway i play islandz cryptic serpent, pass. your move
>>97528926>>97528969happens more than you think, and if it's not on turn 3 it's on turn 4>but RG monsters has better creaturesthat get bounced back by deem inferior or straight up countered
>>97528975by... taking the total number of appearances of the deck archetype in events and dividing it by the total number of decks in that dataset...? or more succintly, by people playing the deck.
>Transporter Accident>2UB>Sorcery>Destroy target creature or artifact>Then pick one;>Create a token that is a copy of the destroyed permanent under your control except its Black and gains the type Clone>Destroy another target creature or artifact>”Enterprise. What we got back didn't live long... fortunately."
>>97528941white weenie is supposed to beat terror thanks to the sheer number of blockers and fogs it playshowever if terror can set up early ww is more likely to lose because there's no way you're casting thraben charm with enough board AND pay the ward costthe thing is that there's card in U terror that you can ban without killing the deck. maybe Lorien revealed
>>97528996Space-Time Anomaly 2UWSorceryTarget player mills cards equal to your life total"It is a highly localized distortion of the space-time continuum." - Lieutenant Worf
>>97529006Maybe Mental Note? The deck would have to switch to consider which isn't entirely backbreaking but it would slow it down a lot
>>97528986Thanks for confirming you have no clue, for the second time.I'll spoonfeed you little tard, the entire pauper metagame comes from MTGO, the pauper community on mtgo is extremely small, if you look into the (partial) data that wotc gives us you'll see that pauper has only a small fraction of the playerbase that a format like modern has on mtgo, now what does this mean, it means that a handful of players (for example luffy for affinity and luminati/carvs for terror) dictate the lists that everyone copies, the strategies and the vast majority of the results for a specific deck this is the first fact, the second fact is that pauper is being used by brazilian grinders to make money, so they tend to play fast meta decks, in this case it's mostly mono red & varients, terror decks metagamed into 6-8 hydroblast effects to counter them vastly increasing the terror w/r vs the largest part of the metashare (which btw, the metashare you see on websites does not correspond to the total REAL metashare) in G2 and G3 while having poor results G1, there, this is the reason why the deck has so much "play".>>97528978cast down, go next? :)>>97528983You can do that specifically if you have tolarian terror, 4 creatures out of 10-12 in your 60 cards deck, on top of that you have to draw 3 lands naturally and you need to hit all spells while randomly milling yourself, I have thousands of pauper games with all decks of the formats, it's a fairly rare event, it can happen, it's by no means consistent, reason why you'll see most of the paper results have the deck go 1- 3 wins into all losses.
>>97529012either consider or curate probably.to be fair Lorien banned would gimp enough blue decks to make some people happy
>>97529031Counterspell ;). I held two, can't you see?
>>97529006WW also has an instant speed GY wipe as a 4x maindeck, unless you miss out on your curve you will never lose to terror.
>>97529041Cool, I'll have to pyroblast it then :) It's a shame you tapped out with that last counter because you had to pay 2 for a vanilla creature ^_^
>>97529031I know the pauper community is relatively small but it makes no sense that monoblue would be bad and rely on luck because of that, you moron. monoblue counters a good strat now, great, but explain to me how it was good before that? Again, this deck has ran for literal years relatively unchanged. it has had time to prove itself. and either way, show me your stats then. show me YOUR proof that monoblue is bad, your events that show it getting shitstomped.
>>97529053it depends if you plan on putting pressure early on (turn 1 to 3) with ww or always keep 2 mana up for thraben charm hoping it gets throughat least that's my experience against terror and I played a lot of ww on paper events
>>97528941lmao nevermind didn't realize what level of shitter I was talking to. Guess the proven 62% win rate in favor of WW means shit compared to anon's vibes.
Nice badgermole cub you have there
>>97529057damn i guess we both ordered our decks pretty well to have the exact sequence of cards needed. also pyroblast on main? that seems pretty risky anon. must be pretty blue heavy in your LGS. that might be because terror is really good now or something.
>>97529074Oh, NOW the MTGO stats can def be trusted, huh?
>Dabo>3 colorless>Sorcery>Roll a d20>1-6 Each of your Opponents draws a card>7-11 Target player draws a card>12-16 Tap or untap up to 2 target permanents>17-19 You draw 2 cards and add 3 colorless mana to your mana pool>20 Activate your choice of effect on this card, then create a copy of Dabo and cast it>"Dabo!"https://youtu.be/HOz4tudIDV0
>>97529031>you have to draw 3 lands naturally and you need to hit all spells while randomly milling yourselfturn 3 terror/serpent is pretty common and you have 4 cyclers and plenty of looks before milling out the cards you need.sure I have seen people playing the deck getting hosed and only draw lands or mill two creatures when casting thought scour blindly but I have also seen the deck perform very well
>>97529080>Does literally nothing to stop my insane rampSleep well lil Cub.
>>97529031>you have to draw 3 lands naturally>what is lorien revealed
>>97529102Picard Maneuver {U}InstantStraighten target card you own in its sleeveDraw a card
>>97529108Did you just move the goalposts from dropping 3 snakes t3 to dropping one snake t3?
>>97529114>opp t1 forest llanowar elves>me t1 island unable to sneed>opp t2 breeding pool badgermole cub>me t2 sleep magic>opp t3 miss land drop, attack for 2
>>97529122Llanowar and 1 Earthbend land is still 5 mana even if you miss the 3rd land drop.
>>97529031>you have to draw 3 lands naturally you literally don't. lorien revealed exists>and you need to hit all spells while randomly milling yourselfthe deck is 16 lands, 12 creatures, 32 spells and you just need to hit one spell per note/scour on average
>>97529135I think he's saying to sleep magic the land so you lose your land of the turn
>>97529117no goalpost moving. I have experienced matches where the opponent dropped 3 snakes on turn 3. and it's easier to drop one or two on turn 3.
>>97529031>you have to draw 3 lands naturallyI'm guessing you're also that guy that says this is a bad card
>>97529145Even then he's praying I'm missing t3 land drop or don't cast another Cub
>terror sucks guys you could mill all four terrors by turn 2 and your opponent gets the perfect curve and you die>noooo terror decks can't put 3 5/5s on board by t3/4 that's magic christmas land not-happening shitThis is so fucking lameYeah every deck is bad if you just draw land for 10 turns but you can't say a deck is bad because you can do that and then turn around and in the same fucking breath say the deck getting an ideal curve never happens so it's still bad. Fuck you people. I've been seeing this "argument" more and more and it's retarded. Almost 10% of Pauper is Terror decks. 10% of competitive players are choosing to play garbage? They just enjoy losing?
>>97529135they've only got 1 mana from a single land, but they have a grizzly bears
>>97529167According to anon it's all brazillian tournament grinders playing "fast meta decks" to get money in mtgo and people are copying them. ignore the fact these decks have to be good to make them money and also ignore the fact these guys also play elves and other decks of the format
>>97529157With what mana, following the curve from the other post? Fucking moron
>>97529201maybe the fact i drew 3 additional cards over the course of 2 turns is helping me with looking for lands
>>97529201>land, lorien, land, mental note, mental note, land, terror terror terrorwow so different
>four of the last five major paper pauper events listed on mtgtop8 have some sort of terror deck placing on the top 8bad deck btw, people playing it are masochists
>>97529219Uhhhh chuddy it's not top 2 in all 5 so the deck is bad
>>97529201The 1 mana? Are you fucking retarded? Can you not read the card
>>97529201
>>97529231wish I could get paid for playing bad decks
>>97527611what green card is that 1/1 the opponent is playing I can't read its textmaybe try nonretarded webm encoding?
>>97529264Town guide or something. It's the "mill four take a land from them" from final fantasy. He seems to be facing a landfall deck
>>97529264town greeter from final fantasy
>>97529273that's superior spiderman combo they run 4x and win on turn 4 if you don't have graveyard hate
>>97529235>>97529242Now read >>97528893 again. Slowly this time if it helps your ESL reading comprehension. If anon cast mental note T1, 2 mill cards T2, 3 terrors T3, where is the space to cycle lorien? If you're baiting for (You)s, congratulations. You got me. Pretending to be retarded worked.
>>97529302by having your opening hand being: island, 2 mental note, lorien and 3 terrors :)
>>97529302He can just slightly slow himself down to fix his manabase...? Oh woe is him he'll have to content himself with 2 terrors turn 3. How terrible.
>>97527770aggro them to death first with evasive dudes. the whole reason tempo is GOATed is you can be aggro against degen green decks, be an aggro deck with a bunch of main board protection against control, or the control deck against aggro..I'm playing blue white fliers and mono blue murktide crab/tolarian terror. in Bo1 ranked it's probably the deck I'm least concerned about with the flying deck. I just kind of go all in aggro and save removal/counter magic for ouroboroid. The mono blue deck isn't to bad against it either and bouncing there badger mole cub land is funny
>>97527766100% agree. They keep power creeping all the creatures but giving us control/tempo players more or less the same shitty removal variants we always get
/mtg/ - goalpost moving general
lol this shit looks like a shrunken head wearing a piece of pizza for a hat
What can be done to save Magic? The Pizza shit is coming.
>>97529415Star Trek will save Magic
Got into Magic two months ago and wanted to know why people say tapped dual lands are bad and not worth it?My friends mostly play around bracket 2 and 3. We don't really start doing shit until turn 5 or 6, so I don't really see the problem.
>>97529415Nothing. Once they run out of decent crossover IPs magic is sinking with hasbro.
>>97529457It's not a problem for you. I run them in all my decks because I hate spending money on lands. Because they decided multicolor decks draw back should be a wallet check.Anyways it mostly matters in 1v1 completive formats and high power edh where playing a 1 drop into a 2drop or similar actually makes a big difference between winning or "if I just had one more turn."
>>97529392Kek
finally, one of my shitass decks is now bracket 3 thanks to farewelljust what I wanted
>>97527294I've been playing Master Duel and it's weird to queue up knowing that the client doesn't actively hate me, just the enemy players.
I can report quite a bit of success with End-Blaze Epiphany in my fire bending deckturns out removal that also digs is pretty good.
>>97529782it's crazy being able to afford all decks you want after just a few days of playing rather than it taking literally months (with even more time consuming dailies) in arenaonly thing MD is lacking is some alternative gamemdoes soemhow
Alright, ECL sucks. having 4 playable color pairs in draft sucks. Pretty shit idea for a set desu
>>97529965you recommend master duel anon? i wanted a new card game after the whole uh shit and marvel snap/shadowverse aren't my jam
>>97529392>Food for Thought>B>Instant>Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card between them. They discard that card. If they do, they create a food token.
>>97529457In commander terms: for the same reason the guy who plays T1 tower->ring->signet is almost certainly going to win. When decks are actually made to progress a game plan and aren't just a pile of cards of the same colour, being behind on mana is one of the biggest disadvantages you can have.
>>97529415WHYWHY DID THEY DEPICT DONATELLO SITTING DEEP IN A MELTED CHEESE BATHWHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM
>>97529302>where is the space to cycle lorien?The space where you don't have Mental Note in your opening hand.
>>97529242>People STILL not respecting the value of shuffling your deck in Legacy.Dire.
I turned myself into a pickle, Mishra!I'm a Picklewalker!!!!!
>>97527204Reminder that WotC was hyping this up as a special update for Commander, only for it to unban 2 cards nobody cared out and ban nothing.We got no changes because it took WotC this entire time to figure out what few cards they could UNBAN in EDH without fucking the format even further.
They actually dropped the>No bans in all formats.now of all times.Holy fucking shit.
I find it funny that you could have a Standard featuring 10 decks, all with a 100% winrate on the play Turn 1, and WotC would consider this a healthy meta because "It's diverse" and "All the decks have 50% winrates"Bloody hell, man. The absolute state of this game.
Never once, not even once ever, do they mention the actual PLAY PATTERNS of a format. You know, the QUALITY OF THE GAME.It's just>muh statistics>muh winratesIt's like they're a bunch of stupid fucking robots who both don't play the game and have nod ability to think critically about anything.
>>97530761They're taking a page out of the Commander book. Just like Rhystic Study shitting up games is a part of Commander's format identity, the game being decided by cointoss is going to be part of 60-card's identity now.Teehee I play my 1-dropNow my 1-drop make another body on etbAlso my 1-drop has a repeating trigger :)Also my 1-drop has death trigger :)))Like holy shit these are fucking YGO cards where's Evenly Matched to let you go second and not lose?
>>97530807>where's Evenly Matched to let you go second and not lose?I mean fuck, seriously though. YGO at least ATTEMPTS to have archetypes where going second is the plan, and hot damn some of them even function.MTG has just completely abandoned quality gameplay and balance.
>>97530761You can't turn play patterns into a simple metric like you can winrates
>>97530752WotC out here like:>Yes this deck may have 100% play rate, but tools to deal with it clearly exist because it only has 50% winrate, meaning it loses half the time!
>Hexproof from X>Hexproof>Protextion from X>Protection from everythingMake it make sense.
as an otter player im glad lutri is unbanned
>>97530997Hexproof is templated on Shroud, which also works that way.They're different because both are keywords from an era the game didn't give a fuck about consistency.
>>97527893Giga based
>>97530997>ProtextionMid wit detected. I’m not surprised you don’t understand the English language when you can’t even use a spell checker.
>>97530997The default of protection is protection from a specific thing.The default of hexproof is hexproof from everything.
>see lightning greaves>"this will be litty in my nashi moon sage scion brawl deck">mfw I try to equip flying equipment on my speedy rat
I've said it before but at this rate, they will have to give the player going second the coin from Hearthstone
>>97531260Commander players would freak out that it might be brought to their format (even though Commander ALSO has a problem with going first), so it's never happening.
>>97531260you mean like a lotus petal?
>>97531271>even though Commander ALSO has a problem with going firstdoesn't the first player still draw on turn one?just, like, get rid of that
>>97527294After Legends or Runeterra got quickly shit canned once the Hearthstone clone fad died, I wouldn't be surprised if Riot gives up on Riftbound after a year or two to chase the next fotm thing
>>97531353That really will not help very much.
>>97531353>doesn't the first player still draw on turn one?Wait, they do? We always play with the first player not drawing a card, like in 60-card formats.
>>97527766Touhou UB when?!
Premodern Chads, how is UW Tron Control? It seems to be super cheap in paper, about 120 bucks for a full deck which is tempting. One of my goals for this year is to build a deck, play on MTGO for a few months and attend an actual in-person tournament in Q3 or Q4.
>>97531490>Premodern chadsYou mean premodern pajeets trying to sell old stockpiled cards and proxies. Premodern is a scam.
>>97531514>ScamHow is it a scam if I can play it IRL unlike any of the sanctioned by WotC formats? Even Pauper died in my area lately, Premodern is the only format that has any kind of active community here but my work schedule doesn't let me play often so I want to focus on getting better by playing online for now.
>>97531534The biggest barackpill for me was realizing pauper scenes will always die because people LIKE windmilling le epic overpowered legendaries
>>97527294>>97529782ah yugishit shills at it again.im too lazy at this point to debunk you bots so here.>>97247385>>97246150>>97246138yugishit is literally the worst card game known to man, in fact the only reason why mtg is going to shit is because they hired 2 designers who used to work with yugishit lmao.
>>97531553Not necessarily. In my old home city there is a Pauper community I helped to start, it's thriving for 8 years now. I believe it's the biggest format there on par with EDH. Where I live now Pauper was the biggest format as well but it simply died due to pure WotC fatigue. No one wants to deal with the UB shit and all the WotC-related dramas. Basically, Pauper died for WorC sins.
>>97531574also master duel frontloads you with a bunch of gems to try to get you addicted(or more accurately sunken time cost fallacy)by the time you realize that the gems have dryed up you are already too far in, I have played the game since launch and yes I did have numerous decks, however yugioh powercreep is so massive and its banlists are the opposite of mtg where they ban every single card for majority of used decks and for master duel they exclusively target the non rare cards, that require your deck to function,basically every yugioh deck is a combo deck that requires specific pieces, so they ban a common rarity piece and your whole deck is useless,so within 3 months all of your gems you spent on decks are worthless,also in yugioh EVERYSINGLE SET IS modern horizons x 20.if people thought modern horizons are insane powercreep, well EVERYSINGLE set in yugioh, is expected to completely remove every single previous playable deck, in fact when it almost doesn't, the yugishit community instantly calls for bans, so what ends up happening is, every new set comes, konami bans a bunch of cards, then powercreeps everything else,yugioh basically has a 6 month set rotation where everything outside of the most recently released support is unplayable ether due to bans, or straight up powercreep,the average deck in yugioh is actually much more expensive, since you can only use that deck for around 3 months before it gets powercreept and the price drops like a rock, going from 500$+ to only 14$ and this isn't an exaggeration in any means.most mtg decks have lands which are the most expensive parts of the deck, which are almost never banned, so even in the worst case your deck will be fine and still maintain its value, and in mtg arena you will still beable to replace the banned cards, since most mtg decks do not rely on specific combos or specific cards to function.and wizards never banns 12+ cards in a row in a single format like yugioh does almost monthly.
>>97531593As an aside while Yu-Gi-Oh is good at reprinting cards eventually you better believe the initial the run of key cards are short printed to fuck. Every set has a couple badger mole tier "chase mythic" equivalents that are even rarer by comparison but you also need a play set to not get blown out by other meta decks
>>97531490I guess you are asking for a draw by timeI haven't matched that deck yetThe good thing about premodern anything can suddently get top 3 but the gathering is what matter the most.Blue just lost parallax tide so it lost some players just because, but still there.
Magic had it strongest year yethttps://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20260209085774/en/Hasbro-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2025-Financial-ResultsPRAISE UBPRAISE COMMANDERPRAISE NEBRASKA
>>97531764double the amount of setsI want one new set every month
>>97531783>Harry PotterI absolutely love how Ameridumb WotC drones bashed Dragon Shield for their HP merch but never mentioned anything about Hasbro themselves printing money on HP crap.
>>97531764We need Furby, Minecraft MLP and Sims UBs.
>>97528460Shit taste minus terror
>>97531793Because it will be a tie-in with the new tv series. Where Snape is black.
>>97531793>Shit that never happened
One of the biggest "monkey's paw" moments for Magic for me has been being me (a literal gay furry) who has always wanted Cat-Tribal support, then Wizard's prints a constructed-playable Ajani card, BUT it is the face of power-creep, bad-business-practices, and bad game-design. I want to say on the record that I don't play with any MH3 cards, even if they have cute cats on them.
>>97531829TFD
>>97531827>He doesn't knowHave you not noticed that Ultra Pro lost their MtG licence? Gamegenic took over.Ultimate Guard was targeted as well and they took down their Harry Potter range. Now go and check the official Dragon Shield webstore and guess what you WON'T find there. Just use google you dum-dum and you will find like billion articles covering this.
>>97531800>Furbyanon, I...
>>97531688Holy esl
>>97532015Thank you.
>No bansholy fucking shit the game is actually abandonware
>>97532480Biorythm and Lutri were unbanned at least.
>>97532480They carr about this game. And what's this game? Commander, that's it.
Arenachads keep winning!>No Marvel>All the changesI've been telling people here that WoTC balances historic for fun, not profit
>>97531783They did say WotC has no plans for it at least.
I played Historic exclusively until Explorer was added.I don't play enough to be able to get all the slop they inject the card pool with regularly.
>>97532553They left the sorin + elenda combo deck in for ages, they don't balance historic period. Maybe there's a single intern working on things but certainly not anything significant.
>>97532560that's how you know it's coming
>>97531260Would that be so bad? For all Hearthstone's faults the coin has always seemed like a fairly effective solution to that issue.
>>97532553Wait, I get to dodge the marvel cancer, like spider-man? I guess that should have been obvious, but still a relief to hear it. What does arena get instead, what's the omenpaths equivalent going to be?
>>97532676If it was coming I imagine like half their designers would have quit.
>>97532697Also Omenpaths. That's their broad term for "replacement digital sets for sets that aren't coming to Arena for whatever reason" which will honestly probably only be the Marvel sets because I can't imagine anything else would be able to say no to it being on Arena unless we get like a Warcraft set.
>>97531260Everyone should get a free Gemstone Cavern
>>97531442In multiplayer formats first player gets to draw
>>97532714If only...
>>97531788I'm sure that will be the case in three years
>>97532714Harry Potter is like crack to millennial women no matter how much virtue signaling goes on online
>>97532721I think the only reason it's happened with Marvel was due to Marvel Snap existing.The only other franchise which might be in the same boat as Marvel is Star Wars or Disney, but since those already have TCG them getting MtG sets seems unlikely
>>97532890then in 6 years we can double thata new set every other weekeventually we will reach a point where we get a new set every single dayand all of them are AI generated365 sets a year
>>97532560>we have our own school of magic>we made it lame and gay and people generally dislike it>we totally will never have a HP sethaaha
In the future, MTG will be exclusively Leyline Tribal vs Enchantment Removal Tribal.
>>97532986Trannies are too large a part of their whale customer base to allow it, also data shows zoomers care less and less about HP each passing year compared to millennials, no reason to rock the boat for cards that have no future proofing.
>>97531764Wouldn't it be cool if we lived in a universe where companies are financially rewarded for making quality products, instead of shitting all over the floor and ruining everything in your life?
>>97533040Capitalism is a great system in theory, but it requires informed consumers, something that you will never have. Unfortunately the alternatives also place power in the hands of retards, but government officials instead of the average citizen.TLDR: We're fucked.
>>97533066Getting big that wasn't real communism vibes from you.
>>97533066>but it requires informed consumersit doesn't even require that, you just need to stop governments from making the most absurd regulations that only exist because some crony corporation lobbied for them to make sure the rest of the market isn't allowed to compete
>>97533072Quite the opposite, every political system breaks down when applied to human retardation. The fake communism is actually the one proposed by theorists, REAL communism is the dogshit we got that just makes everyone poor and miserable. I'm just saying that also applies to capitalism. Given the choice, I still prefer capitalism, but shitty products and business practices being aggressively rewarded by retards is one of its consequences.
>>97531645>>97531645yes this is the only thing konami does right is that it doesn't have the retarded reserve list and very much reprints
>>97531593Cool anyway I activate That Grass Looks Greener. Now I'm instantly having more fun than in any Magic format.
>>97531593Damn bro I didn't know Konami was out here powercreeping Ash Blossom and Forbidden Droplet. I'm glad Magic still has playable Modern staples like Tarm- I mean Mana Lea- I mean Snapca- I mean Doom Bla- I mean Sacred Foundry!
>>97533023Counterpoint, the whales won't go away no matter what and tourists+speculators will always shell out
>>97532560"Universes Beyond will not be printed into Standard."
>>97533242Which was a factual statement. Until execs changed their mind.
>>97531593So Arena's model is better... how? Because it's complete dogshit so the monetization is reflective of game quality?>But OnlineEven worse with the only positive of that client being no fake cards.
>>97531490The closest analogy is the Temple of the False God pure controlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9DKnMpoSPgI have a friend who build the Tron version you're describing about a year ago but didn't end up playing it much, I think the mana felt inconsistent. That said, the format is about playing what you want, not being a meta slave
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2026/02/10/hasbro-has-q4-2025-earnings-call-transcript/>Magic’s “Avatar the Last Airbender” set became the third highest selling in franchise history, trailing only “Lord of the Rings” and “Final Fantasy.”
>>97527294The reason I turned to Magic is because I hated Master Duel. Nut sure what else there is to play.
When you took the Red pill about Magic The Gathering?
>>97533352That's interesting considering it didn't really feel that way from a player perspective. I know there were those pig slop chase cards, I wonder if those managed to move enough collector boosters to hit 3rd
>>97533407We have known since LotR and FF that the vast majority of their sales don't translate to players (or at least, players that stick around and buy other things, they just hoover up that particular IP and call it a day).
>>97527230>>Pauper>>No changesBan it you WotC fucks
>>97533395When I came to realize EDH is, according to the designers and suits, the primary way to play Magic.
>>97531490Tron still isn't in a good position. Most big mana decks did technically get better post tide ban, but we are still living in an Armageddon, wasteland, cataclysm format. I'm honestly not sure how viable control is now with tide gone. Landstill is the old fashion control deck but I think at the higher levels of play it just doesn't have the tools to actually win. But if you really want to try going big mana anyways I personally love playing UWg control. Green just for Mirrari's Wake and Gaea's Blessing. Gives you the biggest Decree of Justice.
>>97533407>>97533450>am I out of touch?>no, its the scalpers who buy all the productprincipal_skinner.jpeg
>>97533461Kitchen table formats (aka Commander) always were the way to best enjoy magic. Stamdard is the real ugly spawn that Garfield never envisioned. The suits are just reacting to what was always good and natural.
>>97533490Yet the game has gotten much worse since they started focusing on commander
>>97533407Kitchen table Magic is still the strongest driver of sales
>>97533510That's a problem with Wizard's design team sucking ass and ruining every format they explicitly print cards for
>>97533550That's according to Mark based off data where they robodial random numbers until someone answers the survey, and they count anyone unable to name a format as "kitchen table".Apparently it has never once occurred to anyone at WotC that this survey data might be inaccurate.
>>97533550According to WotC's phone surveys at least
>>97533556They are incompetent but of course it's harder to design cards when the format you are focused on is so different from every other format.
>>97533584They ruined Modern too with the Horizon sets
>>97533559What else would you call people who've played Magic but can't name a format?
>>97533559Well apparently it is accurate because sanctioned formats are in the toilet but sales are through the roof
Going by the trend set by recent UB sets:>Wesley Crusher will rotate 3 formats and get banned in 2>Security Officer will win the World Championship solely because the person playing it won the die roll every match (going first will have an 80% winrate by now)
>>97533605*People who claim to have played Magic after you robocalled them at random asking them to answer a survey about MagicVery important distinguishing factor.
>>97533604Of course. It's very difficult to design in an eternal or similar format because of the power level and card pool, and especially so when you are bad at your job. Just look at yugioh for another example.
>>97533634idk man Mulcharmies, Triple Tac Thrust, and every boardbreaker feels like they were designed pretty well.
>>97533626Who's going to lie about having played Magic before? What possible incentive is there to do that?
>>97533634Standard has been a trash fire for the better part of a decade too
>>97533656Yes I can only wonder why people would lie for no reason to strangers that annoy them.
>>97533644I've been trying to get back into yugioh this year and I can't think of any single element of this game that feels well designed at all.
>>97533487Literally has nothing to do with scalpers. Let me ask you this: With the three best selling sets of all time being UB (and recent-ish), where are all of the new Magic players? They aren't on Arena - its playerbase has stayed consistent, but no huge spikes to line up with these UB releases. They aren't playing paper, because players haven't increased in going to events (FNM or actual large tournaments). These products sell to people who want that one specific thing and then that's it. They won't move on to purchase other products or become a Magic player over time. They know this. We know this. It has happened three times now - we understand how this works, it isn't conjecture.
>>97533682>get a robocall>be annoyed at them for taking up your time>choose not to hang up for some reason>waste more of your own time to go out of your way to lie to them>this all happens at a rate significant enough to affect the stats btwI've heard more convincing conspiracies from children.
>>97533709If I'm bored, I will go through the options to get to a human. Then tell jeets to wash their hands, or just hang up after they go through the sales pitch.
>>97533559>they count anyone unable to name a format as "kitchen table".If you cant name a format, you probably dont play standard.
>>97533666Yes, better part of a decade, this coincides with a change in design and shift in focus to eternal formats like commander and modern.
>>97533755I see my mistake, I thought I was talking with an adult.
alright heres my current list after some tinkeringmox jaspers have turned out to be clutch, and hitting 3 lands isn't that hard with this many cantrips, I might even cut to 15 or less lands. 1 landers easily keepable.Current setup>4 Valley Floodcaller>4 Firdoch Core>4 Stormchaser's Talent>4 Boomerang basics>4 Sleight of hand>4 Opt>4 Heroes Hangout>4 Impolite Entrance>4 Enter the Enigma>2 Crash Through>3 Mox Jasper>3 Thundertrap Trainer>4 Spirebluff Canal>4 Steam Vents>4 Multiversal Passage>4 Starting TownAbility to use boomerang basics on a mox jasper just starts ritualing away like you're playing vintage paradoxical outcome.
>>97533796That's where you were wrong. I am a pig, and I eat slop
>>97533831What do you do if they interact with floodcaller or core? Just concede?
>>97533847you have to flash it in, and you have boomerang at instant speed to protect it
>>97533874>you have boomerang at instant speedwhat did anon mean by this?
bros are trying to get me into modern, what are some fun decks? i used to play a lot of death n taxes/hatebears back in the day, anything similar still viable?
>>97533884reading the card explains the card
This game is COOKED.
>>97533902So you gotta flash in floodcaller while having boomerang in hand, then you gotta flash in core, all which your opponent is doing shit and you have no interaction. And your combo isn't even guaranteed, you can still fizzle.
>>97533703Yeah I agree it's bad design when you can win going second.
>>97533925You don't have to flash in core, you can play it on 3 lands and combo offFlash in floodcaller on their end of turn, early as turn 3 if they are shields down, turn 4 you can protect it even on their end step if they have an instant removalEx, turn 3 they tap out, you flash in floodcaller. You untap, cast core - no 4th land drop needed- and pop off. You can give haste to stormchaser talent otters along the way
>>97529135>>97529114>>97529163Oh no no no
>>97533352Well to be expected as it is a good set with plent of staples and alto includes in other decks.>>97533407>>97533450Don't be retarded. The badger was one of the most played card in last protuor... here >>97527286Also the set has other good cards that ((players)), and lesson deck is full avatar.>>97533845If turtle set have playable cards it will also sell well.
I miss undercosted cards with drawbacks
>>97534041We have undercosted cards with upside now
>>97534041how could you even print an undercosted card now without obviously signaling bad faithi don't think such a design is even possible
>>97534041The drawback is that it has 2 triggered abilities instead of 3!
>>97534041I miss these effects
>>97534032Just to be clear, you think that Badgermole Cub being played in Pro Tour decks was because the set sold well and engendered a larger Magic playerbase?
>>97534123A card being played by the majority of players attending a high end tournament + the set being from a popular franchise + the set defining 2 decks popular decks from current standard... All those make it clear that:1- the set is being opened more than people here give credit 2- top players are playing with the cards 3- despite magic being dead in most places the sales of singles is not, and people keep buying popular cards that see play in good decks.Just face it, because it is Avatar a bunch of 30 yos bought product for nostalgia sake, some probably completed a full set or more of it. Ok, we all hate UB but UB is being pushed and people don't give a damn about using it when they can win games with those cards.
>>97534177How are ProTour view numbers looking?
>>97533890try the orzhov blink deck
>>97534103>Illusion>Wall>Changeling I liked it when if you saw a creature tag, it automatically had a "keyword identity" in your mind
>>97534208Now bears aren't even 2/2 anymore
>>97534190I wonder but i cant imagine people excited about "Avatar PT" or the upcoming "TMNT PT" even if they jew say sets like Avatar sold well.
>>97533831Hey anon why not use Unending Whisper?It isn't much at first but considerAs soon as you have any otter with 5+ power you can harmonize its flashback cost for {U}, and then it draws you a second card from graveyard. And then you untap the otter as you cast it anyway. And you can cantrip without needing a creature to targetWild ride is 2 free casts too and a massive 8+ power but doesn't replace itself but it could get unending whisper in range easier too so I dunno
>>97533890Modern is a dead format. It's 'healthy' in numbers, but the gameplay sucks and every deck is powered by MH3 or similar FIREd up cards. You would get more entertainment out of playing mono W taxes in Legacy.https://www.youtube.com/@Grandfather_Taxes
Explain to me why cards like this are too weak to affect standard
>>97534593Retard, mono white doesn’t exist in any 60 card format but Vintage Initiative decks and even then it’s tier3 like every format you could play white. JOTC is simply slowly dragging the corpse out of the door with white that Commander is the only format left to at least see causal play. At this rate it’s only a matter of time until the kikes eventually erase the color or replace it with another one.And “taxes” white decks have always been a bad meme that went nowhere even when it was first made. White died with Lin-Sivvi
>>97534624Because the tribe itself is not that strong in standard.
>>97534624Because we have a 'better' version of the same card in dispelling exhale
>>97527342Just play old school using proxies. MTG as Garfield intended.
>>97534041Even if they were minor drawbacks, it's still better than what we have today
>>97534624>>97534649Why can't they just print mana leak? Often feels way more usable even later than any of these pay 2 options and doesn't care about whether or not you're playing baby type-deck slop.
>>97534729Mana Leak is unironically too strong
>>97534729quench is the baseline
>>97532560I wanted Little Witch Academia but at least the /u/tards won't infect the game at least.
>>97534208Changeling isn't a creature type you idiot.
>>97533023Harry Potter is being looked back on with less fondness. As time has gone on we can look at the actual plot and see all the contrivances, ass pulls, lucky breaks etc. It was good because it felt like we were going to Hogwarts, we felt like we were going on HP's journey with him. But that doesn't cover all the glaring plot holes and hand waves of>He won cause of some obscure magic deus ex machina lmaoHP is still big though. Very popular. But when 25% of children don't even know how to read and the books are the best way to enjoy the story it's dying fast.Rowling's statements aren't even that controversial. She's just saying women deserve their own spaces away from men. To the insane leftists though this is basically hate speech. It's saying troons aren't real women and shouldn't be treated 100% like they are.To the right she's a hero but not completely. She's still an insufferable feminist.They have no real need to do a Harry Potter UB. It would do well but it's still modern fantasy set in the real world. The best UBs are actual fantasy. LotR, FF, Avatar. These are their own worlds and it doesn't feel as jarring for them to be part of the MtG multiverse.
>>97534767It's funny really. Counterspell used to be commonly available in mtg. Especially in standard>Ice Age>4th>5th edition>6th edition>7th edition>mercadian masques>tempestIt wasn't really a problem then and especially with the often bad mana sources people would opt for mana leak, prohibit, memory lapse or something like those instead since you didn't need double blue.Moreover, stronger interaction like counterspell, swords to plowshares, lightning bolt, fatal push, nature's claim, etc. are all especially justified (maybe even too weak in some cases) given how much all the permanents have been power-crept. Playing a lot of premodern with a lot of the "underpowered creatures," swords and bolt do not feel overpowered to me when playing. So what if you have counterspell? There's a goblin lackey on the board and they just put down a Rishadin Port and a Siege Gang commander off the lackey trigger. That counterspell that I couldn't even use doesn't feel anywhere near OP. I guess I have to side in the blue blasts. >>97534779Discount miscalculate is a shitty baseline. At least with miscalculate you could cycle it away when it wasn't any good any more. If they're going to keep printing all this underpowered interaction, they might as well just put cycling on it all.
>>97534841If you held every major piece of literature to the same standard would they hold up?How about all the IP that has already gotten universes beyond, does Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles aspire to a higher quality level and product integrity?
here's your power creep bro
>>97534855TMNT is a children's TV show/comic. So no I don't hold it to the same standard as novels. It's also a terrible candidate for UB. I hope it's another spider man, I have no interest in it.
>>97534841Leftists loved Rowling when she said Hermione was black, but they turned on her the second she said Hermione was a female
>>97534893drain life opponent and get a big lifelink creature? what were they thinking?
>>97534997the virgin 1993 life drain>pay 8 mana>deal 6 damage to opponent, gain 6 lifethe chad 2026 luisy pussy plunderer>pay 8 mana>deal 6 damage to opponent, gain 6 life, get an 8/7 lifelink who will attack each turn to deal 8 damage and gain 8 life every turn until answered
>>97535023Ocho mana? En esta economia?
>>97534841Hogwarts Legacy is the 19th best selling game of all time, anon.
>>97534936>Leftists loved Rowling when she said Hermione was blackliterally everyone laughed at that shit
>>97535190And it was largely reviewed as "it's just kind of okay".
>>97530671can't ban anything that would hurt sales
>>97534905>TMNT is a children's TV show/comicHP is also a children's property though. This isn't like a Star Wars thing where the "children's property" features decapitations and the murder of a temple full of children, it unironically is full on kids fantasy.>>97535221It was mediocre, but its record sales are an argument for the brand strength despite that mediocrity, not against it.
>no pottercan't have shit
>>97535190Yes like I said it is still a popular franchise. It always will be with millenials but it's failing to capture new generations.>>97535308>HP is also a children's property thoughIt's not a literal Saturday morning cartoon. People are murdered, mind controlled, tortured. It gets dark at times. I'd put it as more for older children/teenagers while TMNT is for a younger demographic. I liked TMNT as a kid. That doesn't mean I want to return to New York multiple times in one year.The biggest reason HP is a bad UB is that it's set in 2000s England. So far I haven't seen modern shit do well for sets. I don't want the fucking office on mtg cards. It's silly.
>>97535308TMNT has some more adult-leaning entries (The Last Ronin and to an extent the IDW comics) but arguably so does HP (Fantastic Beasts I guess but who gives a shit about those).I think a significant issue with HP is also just... Nobody likes anything past the original movies and even then only like the first few are REALLY held up high. The last ones had to deal with being adaptations of fundamentally incurious books about a protagonist who doesn't care about anything at all. I still don't know why the final confrontation was settled with "ownership rights", it's not like the rest of the series had that kind of trickery about magic it just seemed out of nowhere.HP fans seem to more like... The vibes of it and the characters for fanfic purposes. Which I guess makes it like if Star Trek was boring.If HP ever does happen as a UB thing it'll be when Rowling is dead or it'll be malicious complianced into sucking.
>>97534704This is where I'm atStandard with Ravnica, Time Spiral and 9th peak Magic
>>97535659>Mindbroken over seeing a TV in Duskmourn
Witcher UB incoming
>>97535858Witcher sucks my balls, it will definitely happen.
>>97535858I read HP and thought of HP Lovecraft. It's a great opportunity for merfolk theme set.
>>97535905Lorwyn already has mermaids that are an allegory for the welsh.
And mono white human cards all have niggers in all the art as an allegory for JOTC cucking the Caucasian player base
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