Previous: >>97529899Custom Card Edition>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ:Have you ever made a custom card? Was it as bad as this one?
No. I'm hetro.
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>>97538475>TQI don't have it saved anymore but it was a >XGU>0/0>Enters with X 1/1 counters>whenever this creature is blocked its base power and toughness becomes equal to the blocking creatures>same effect when blocking
>>97538568I like this idea too
>>97538579Every saiyan card would be a transform cars referencing every attack (galick gun, warp kamehameha, etc) and every form (base, ssj2, UI, etc) and will sell gazillions
Going to be quiet at the LGS this week, Dockside baggie mass suicide
>Wow, that card with a nasty etb just did an etb, what is it going to do next?>Nothing, after its etb, its just a blocker>Surely you have some way to use it more than once>No, I do not this is a barely modified precon.>Well I think I should remove it, because you could just be lying>You know anon over there has a mossborn hydra. Probably should worry about what will kill you soon instead of the thing that might possibly kill you if I'm lying, which I'm not.>Yeah, you bluffs just aren't good man, this is the right play.>Mossborn hyrda hits him for 30.I know he didn't learn anything from this.
>>97538631More people would have killed themselves over primetime staying forced to shit in the woods alone than people thinking dockside would be unbanned.
>>97538631>>97538639I play with banned cards. Chad does what Chad wants.
>>97538568So something like Sworn Defender? I'm a little surprised we don't have something like that yet.
>>97538475Mr Fight-man3RGTrample7/3When this card deals damage to an opponent or a permanent they control, choose one of the following:An opponent loses life equal to this card's power.Choose a non-land permanent an opponent controls, destroy it.
>>97538634>this is the right plaIt's the confident bad plays that get me the most. Like I can understand not knowing better and realizing you fucked up. You got to learn somehow. But doing the bad play but never realizing or accepting it was bad is a whole other annoyance.
>>97538664I play with 2 copies of Sol Ring and there's literally nothing you can do to stop me.
>>97538475>TQGod, something like five years ago, but mtg.design’s database is still up. Looking at it now, she probably shouldn’t be able to hit lands.
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I made this in like 2014 or something
>>97538475>TQLots. Love making 'em. Thoughts on this one?
>>97538807Pretty based card, ngl.
is this a 7 when it comes to power level?
>>97538689I get that someone could be lying to you, and trying to get you to not touch a piece they need, but it still infuriating when people can't read a board.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>put a link to a furry porn site back into the OP after it was removed>invited customfags with the TQQuite possibly one of the worst OPs in a long time
>TQ: Have you ever made a custom card? Was it as bad as this one?Yes, and maybe yes.
>>97538475>tqwent through some of the images I posted in a mtg discord server and by god was I such a cringe furfag. Like I'm still cringe now but FUUUCK how did anyone put up with me before 2023
>ban the banlist>bring back the tuck rule>bring back the old legendary rule>UB cards are banned by defaultThere. I fixed the format.
>>97539037fuck you dude I want to run my Mr House dice spam deck with mostly baldur's gate cards
>>97539037>We shouldn't have a banlist>But these should beRetard
>>97539067UB cards aren't Magic cards though...
>>97539074ok but D&D fits in like perfectly though
>>97539092UB is a 3rd party IP deal. D&D is a WotC IP and has been for decades.
>>97539037I play Tolarian Academy and win
>>97539037I'll just play Nadu then ;)
>>97539037cool,cool, so this is my ante stax deck.
What we crying about today folks?
Are there other cards like this beyond Odric?
>>97539229I'm not a tranny who got hit by a double whammy of bad news today, so nothing.
>>97539037Honestly? Based. EDH is a social game rather than a sweaty compfag game so a banlist is best solved at the individual playgroup level rather than a top down ban. Rule zero solves all problems in casual play when applied properly.
>>97538475>Have you ever made a custom card? Was it as bad as this one?I've got notebooks full of them from middle school. I was very much on the "more CMC and more color pips means better card" train so they were mostly ridiculously unusable. A lot of them would have 3+ activated abilities with sometimes pretty outrageous mana costs of their own.
Which deck building site has the best playtest function? I'm thinking about ditching tappedout.
>>97539260>individual playgroup levelRulezerofags cant understand that brackets arent going to ruin their basement, but are for randoms at an lgs that cant agree on anything>but wotc will tempt my playgroup to follow their damn brackets!!That's a (You) issue
>>97539294As an oldfag tappedout has never failed me
>>97539322>I have to play with randoms because I have no regular playgroup! No I won't discuss it with them beforehand!Sounds like a (You) issue tbqh
>>97538475>TQDozens if not hundreds.
>>97539341Jokes on you i have both a regular house group with shit decks and a sweaty lgs full of former modern players, that's why i have a broad perspective and i can see beyond my own selfish wants
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>>97539322Rule 0 was always cancer, and always will be.Brackets and power levels was just as bad
>TQURcreature elementalWhenever you cast a spell, if you control 2 or more spells, this creature deals 2 damage to any target2/1I made this like 10 years ago and thought it was very clever
>>97538807A fun Orzhov Enchantment. Perish Judah!
>>97539397They may all be cancer but at least brackets were made by the owners of the game wotc and them having word of god is key, i dont have to kowtow to the demands of some random or the whims of a filthy casual
>>97539236Yes im 90% certain there is a mono red or mono white enchantment which does the same thing. It might even be this one but doesnt quite line up with what I was recalling so cant say for sure.
>>97538747I think it's actually a pretty interesting design. Clever usage of warp interacting with the ability to reflect the difference in color pie. I appreciate you thoughtfully adding the "command zone or hand" clause even though it's pretty clearly designed to be a commander. It's a small thing but many people just don't bother so when someone does I notice it.
>>97539473were you thinking of this?
>>97539423Keep licking that boot faggot. Honestly, pre-rule 0 in EDH was fine. There was a ban list, it was openly (on the website) a suggestion, and local communities occasionally banned their own card. Fuck CFB had it's own recommended banlist. Then it became commander and everything went to hell.
>>97539530Reminder that brackets are also a suggestion, wotc cant send the pinkertons at you>muh bootlickingYou're already bootlicking by calling your fancy general commander instead of general buddy boy
>>97539608wotc can occasionally send the pinkertons to me, as a treat
>>97539521I was indeed thinking of your card!
>That's not a bracket 2 card
>>97539725Cleave is so fucking stupid.
>>97538475I'm more into custom proxies
>>97539530Rule 0 was a good idea in theory but didn't really work in practice unless you were with a regular play group who had experience with each other. The whole point of brackets is that they give structure to rule 0 and a common set of preferences to work from instead of everyone having their own theory of acceptable power levels.
>>97538904>Updates links to be accurate>Fixes (embed) (embed)>Waited until page 10>TQ got lots of responsesidk seems pretty good to me
>>97539521For this one, if I understand damage correctly, you could block a 30/30 with trample with a 1/1 and have it assign all damage to the blocker, right?>>97539755That's my biggest argument FOR brackets personally. They shouldn't be taken as hard edicts but instead as a widely accepted gauge for a deck's powerlevel. Even just the "I plan to win by turn 5 or turn 12" does a lot for everyone being able to communicate expectations when making a pod. It was never meant to apply to your home games, more for playing with randos.
>>97539794Furfag.
>>97539260>edh isn't a sweaty format>so here's why I should be able to play all these over powered cards against your werewolf deck
>>97539833Some more use cases>Block a 2/1 First Strike with 2 1/1s and kill it>Block with a chump token and a Deathtouch creature, keep the Deathtoucher alive>Resolve "when this creature blocks" triggers safely
>>97539843People have been unable to accept that they're just not as good as they think they are in every game ever made, the mere presence of sweats do not entail that a format as a whole is sweaty.
>>97539843You don't understand, my bracket 2 deck NEEDS blood moon to function. It. as nothing to do with being sweaty
>>97539843You have really poor reading comprehension, but I'm glad you're enjoying WOTC's power level system I guess.
https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=ci%3Aubw%20o%3Ainitiative%20o%3Aenters&advanced=how many of these are worth running in sefris imo
>>97538669This is a sick card, love seeing weird shit like this. Reminds me of this fucker. How I would love to find a way to give him a spite effect and have him block an entire field but I don't know of enough effects that would force my opponents to attack specifically me. I need reverse goad dammit.>>97539911Never have played this deck but I'm assuming you're also running a lot of ways to blink these guys? Cause honestly I'd just run every creature and forget the artifacts
You can see the baggies losing hope in real time as each spike is smaller than the last lmao
>>97539934Best I can find for you. Goad also works if your opponents can't attack anyone BUT you. Fumiko the Lowblood is also an option.
>>97539949I don't know why you are taking such a personal interest in this one banned card specifically.
>>97539842He managed to get his story into the canon which is more than any poster here. Show Gay Bolas Anon some respect.
>>97539974Tbh it's THE "it's definitely coming back guys!" card at this point. There's at least some disingenuous argument of it being fair that you can make because it's technically punishing your opponent for something they did (even if what they did was "play the game"). You can't really make the argument for, say, Jeweled Lotus since it's so nakedly busted.
>>97539999Look at them repeating numbers, and no, that's primetime.
>>97539236Underrated card
This is genuinely the look one of my podmates give me when I interact with their EDHrec top 10 commanders. Yeah cunt you’ve built Edgar Markov, Y’shtola, Pantlaza, and Lathril. Your opponents are running fucking Dalakos Crafter of Wonders, Questing Beast, and Abomination of Llanowar. You also spend the most money on decks and have been playing the longest, so don’t fucking get pissy when I put your fucker into the moon.
>>97540002That's true, but Primetime has a market in Modern so there's less speculators holding the bag desperate to unload it.
>>97539974I'm laughing at you, baggie. Your misfortunes are funny to me. Stop gambling on cardboard is my advice
>>97540067>Only a dockside investors would point you my stupidity!Nice little reality you made up for yourself.
>>97540067I have not bought a copy of Dockside since it was banned. The only reason I want it unbanned is that I enjoyed playing it and it seems in line with other game changers.
>>97539852I get why they simplified things and that combat is already one of the more punishing/overly committing things in a game of magic but I do miss combat tricks. Similarly I also wish there were a few more "can block multiple things" effects, it's an interesting twist on combat like >>97539934>>97539934Also as much as I dislike UB in general Kratos might be a good option for forcing more attacks.
>>97538689Fuck off. Let me be bad at the game. Play cEDH if it bothers you.
>>97539738I like it for Wash Away but it's too clunky in how it's worded for a lot of the cards
Remindee that brackets are in practice formats and there will come a time in the future when wotc will announce John Doe as having won MTGCon Las Vegas 202X Bracket 2 with Gay Bolas
>>97540166Bait post.
I'm curious, what is the most unpopular commander that you guys play? For me it's Sephara
>>97540252I'm surprised he isn't more popular, honestly.
>>97538475>Dragon Lotus (0 mana, Legendary Artifact){T}, sacrifice Dragon Lotus: Add 8 mana in any combination of up to 3 colours. At the beginning of your next Upkeep, add 3 mana in any combination of colors.Mana from Dragon Lotus can only be use to cast Legendary Elder Dragon spells and/or pay upkeep costs of Legendary Elder Dragon creatures. Losing unspent mana from Dragon Lotus causes you to lose that much life.
>>97540252I think if he had built in self-mill, he'd be more popular.
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Im the happiest green player ever.today I casted Kamahls for 17. I cheated a shit ton of lands into play and also Nissa, Ascended Animist. giving all my creatures +20/20 or so. a lot of other shit happened too but now I am happy
>>97540252Unpopular as in least ran or unpopular as in the group hates them?
>>975402521v1 this guy is incredibly annoying.
>>97540252I get it, and I run his orb to ponder because its great synergy, but beyond that and altar of the brood I don't mill beyond rad counters, he's just insect tribal.
>>97540385My happiest green* moment was resolving Rite of Replication on Nyxbloom Ancient.
>>97540252she's my least popular in terms of decks and also least popular in terms of how many groans I get when I pull her outwish she had better art though
Looking to make a War Doctor deck that runs on war crimes. What Red and White cards are very brutal that are on theme with Doctor Who and exile antics?I've already considered adding Farewell as an Exile card, and Gallifrey Falls / No More.
>>97538530Why doesn't this card have flying? There's a bird on it.
>>97540488Just War Doctor, or a companion also?
>>97539521God I love this card.>>97539833Yes
>>97540461Mothman is secretly voltron not mill
>>97540461he said unpopular
>>97540499Ryan Sinclair as companion.
>>97540479what did you do with all of the mana
>>97540548Stockpile it menacingly with Kruphix while hoping I could draw into something to do with it.
>>97540516>Ability goes wide not tall when large amounts of millGonna have to disagree with you on that one.>>97540522My bad, for whatever reason I thought he meant makes you unpopular at the table.
>>97540089it really doesn't. dockside reads "create 10 treasures" and costs 2 mana. whoever draws first it has a near insurmountable advantage for absolutely no cost and it goes into literally every deck that includes red. it has a colossal floor and an even more egregious ceiling with blinking or looping it. it's objectively a banworthy card.
Think she's going to have a lasting presence, or is she just too niche and therefore bad?
So I want to build Monoblack Vampires next. How viable is this?
BETTER TQ>BETTER TQBETTER TQ>BETTER TQPost non-legendaries you wish you could play in the command zone
>>97540558that does indeed sound like a happy green moment
>>97540616This, Havengul Lich, and Master Biomancer.
>>97540608Probably fine, there's definitely plenty of monoblack vampires but you might be missing out on some of the more interesting ones.It's basically going to be life drain with Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood wincon
>>97540635>if you don'tWhat a weird clause. If someone hand-ripped you in response to the activated ability it would just exile itself right?
I hate cards with no fucking rules text so much
>>97540616pauper commander lets you put any uncommon in the command zone
>>97540616i love that card
>>97540648Reading the card explains the card though?>>97540651she cute
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>>97540608You could build it as a low to the ground aggro list with Gix at the helm. It won't be the strongest deck but it should be fine.
>>97540577>naturally evasive commander that gets huge passively from any amount of normal Sultai gameplayYes you can build him wide, but he's often a 7/7 by the time he gets back to your upkeep, and that's with no +1/+1 modifiers and without any other support.
>>97540648>>97540664>UUUUUUHHHhHHhHHhHhHh I can't tell what that card or proxy or whatever it is from across the table, you're actually cheating and trying to deceive me.
>>97540646If they handrip all your Auras, yeah.
>>97540648Cool vanilla.
>>97540607They're extremely solved. There is one correct way to build her, and the precon has 80% of what she wants. Most upgrades to it will just be an improved mana base, more land ramp, and the 5 or so playable -1/-1 cards not in the precon.I'm generally not a fan of commanders with one build path. Much prefer commanders that can be built many ways. I like pic rel because they can be built many different ways (samurai lone attacker, tokens, good stuff, etc). I dont think she will stick around purely because her viable card pool is tiny; even a very linear commander like Kaalia has a huge pool of cards.>>97540664At least that has the rules text on it.
>>97540689Where did they say that anon?
>>97540722No where. Some muppet somewhere was going to say it or think it.
>>97540595If Dockside is creating 10 treasures your opponents are also likely popping off.
>>97540728Ah, schizo ramblings, got it.
>>97538475I make bad custom cards all the time.>>97540616Immersturm Predator in a heartbeat, or maybe Mirrorwood Treefolk
>>97540746Tell me you've been in this general for a month or less without telling me you've been in this general for a month or less.
>>97540692No, not all, just the ones with mana value equal or lesser than X, which might well mean just 1 card
>>97540752Ive been here for years, thats how I know its schizo ramblings
>>97540708>At least that has the rules text on it.Does it? What creature type is Archon of Cruelty anon? For that matter, is it legendary or not?
>>97540748actually interesting conceptif wotc made it he'd be RRR 3/3 with hexproof and loot when he enters and attacks
This is the best alt art of all time btw
>>97538522>No. I'm hetro.Im not
>>97540790I genuinely don't recall any monored cards with hexproof ever printed
>>97540770>creature typeYou're not wrong, but "Archon" is an irrelevant creature type.>legendaryIt doesn't state that it is legendary, so no it's not.Most of the time someone says "what does that do" the text on that card will suffice. That being said I do strongly believe that all cards should conform to the standard card frame and formatting for readability, especially in a social format with newfags or lapsed and returning players rolling up to the LGS all the time.
>>97540809exactly
>>97540616The classic
>>97538530Reminds me of this classic
>>97540818well I don't think they'd do that then. red doesn't even get real ward, at most ward-pay life stuff. wotc's design team has firmly decided that red does not get protection
>>97540844actually you're right ward: pay life would make more sense and be on theme
>>97538530Does that mean the adequate counterplay for this card is to grab your opponent and cut off his fingers?
>>97538475>TQA couple yeah, I made some CaC for player characters in this one TTRPG I was running. I think this was my favorite design even if the balance is off.
>>97540853I think it's a bit overcosted for a card that doesn't do much without an additional mana investment too. Could be like 2RR.with the ward if you're keeping the abilities the same price.
This is my custom card :)
>>97540616I'm also going to say Immersturm Predator.
>>97538475>Have you ever made a custom card? Was it as bad as this one?yes
>>97540810>It doesn't state that it is legendary, so no it's not.Kek it also doesn't state that it's a creature
https://moxfield.com/decks/zDAOQZObf0O-Aku2EpMVvQBefore I build a vampire deck. Would this be wroth it? Rats sound fun.
>>97538475>tqI have spent hundreds of hours on various custom cards and sets over the years. This tq is making me revisit some of my files and may cause me to lapse once again into hours of sisyphusian card design
>>97540886It has s casting cost, power and toughness and doesn't have crew in its rules text
>>97540827You can build your own now at least
>>97540886The power and toughness and no crew should've tipped you off. At a certain point the retarded act stops being an act.
>>97540892>>97540899There can't seriously be TWO retards supporting this abomination by saying you should rule out the things it's NOT by process of elimination
>>97540485Currently building UB faeries as an intro deck for my friend who loves em. Mind if I see your list for inspo? I love how the faeries are pretty much etb/flash synergy so I went with a lot of self bounce but I'd like to see how someone else built it
>>97540905Its pretty obviously a creature anonI hate alt frame/alt art slop that disregards the standard formatting but that archeon of cruelty is a usable game piece, even if its a subpar and compromised one
>>97540905>Duurrrrr durrrrr durrrr how do I know its a creature durrr durrr durrrWhat? Im saying it has a power and toughness so its obviously a creature. Only reason i included the crew part was to pre-empt whatever retardation you would reply with. Card looks good ^.^
>>97538475I've been working on a Project Moon UB set for a while now, and this is the card I'm most satisfied with so far.
What would you cut here for an Emry deck? Not pictured are the sorceries, windfall, rite of replication, fabricate, and careful study.
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>>97540946Whoops
>>97540893Yeah, I think every Nephilim has equivalents now but it's still not the same
>>97540925regrettably I think this might be a blue-green design.
>>97540925I hate to say this but isn't Myo(and R-corp as a whole) Green aligned?
>>97540909I think you'll be sorely disappointed since the deck is very much just flash/instant tribal that uses nymris for card advantage rather than any faerie nonsensehttps://moxfield.com/decks/VFE7jT0hlUWR4S4K9gcVjg
>>97540955>Uba maskSurely there's a better stax piece.
>>97540917And what I'm saying is that saying you know it's not legendary because it doesn't say it is is retarded when it also doesn't say that it's a creature.
>>97540616>Post non-legendaries you wish you could play in the command zoneLet me run this nigga as my guy. If Biorhythm is okay then he's okay. Trust me, it'll be fine.
>>97541032not a chance
>>97541007Narset, it is #2 of that effect in the deck but it is searchable.
>>97540743Not really. Between food, treasures, mana rocks, blood, maps, etc etc.It's not unreasonable for your opponents to have 10 artifacts by turn 4 or 5.
>>97541079I've seen more lander tokens than maps over the last six months, and that's ignoring the ones I've made.
If I wanted to make a deck around arcane spells, who would be a good commander, or are they still shit?Hinata? Her effect doesn't work perfectly since, while I'm adding targets to spells, it's a triggered ability and doesn't get reduced. I'm seeing Riku, Kalamax, and azula as well for copying.
Custom cards you say?
>>97541010Most creatures dont say they arent legendary :) i think you are very stupid and have somehow deluded yourself into thinking you are intelligiblerent
>>97540985I'd have them be Mardu. They're a private military with extremely rigid structure that violently punishes dissention (white) loaded with bloodthirsty killing machines (red) that has them go unspeakable torment in the name of power (black). Probably Mercenary tribal/charge counters/aggressive token spam faction.
>>97541180If you're not a bot, say nigger right now
Is this too strong?
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>>97540607-1/-1 counters are niche and narrow, so her decks will be niche and narrowhope for more -1/-1 counter support in 10 years
>>97540616This thing would be a cool commander.
>>97541251This is the most insanely overtuned aura I've ever seen and it probably still wouldn't see play
What total mana cost should a good bracket 3-4 deck be at?
>>97541269We got OG Lorwyn, Scars, and Amonkhet in relatively short succession. Wish we could go back to a similar cadence of +1/+1 and -1/-1 sets. We just need more -1/-1 sets in general
>>97540616Here you go a preview of UB 2027
>>97541295It doesnt matter. That metric is only useful for doing ad naus math.
>>97541032>If Biorhythm is okayOh fuck they unbanned Biorhythm? Fuck yes, at long last.
>>97541311I'm wondering why people always talk about average cost instead of that metric. Deck I'm talking about is 3.24 Avg mana value. Wondering what a good 3-4 deck should be aiming for, instead of having a battlecruiser deck.
>>97541374You're very new, so I'll be polite. The faster your deck, the better it is. Always. The best decks in the format have an average cmc around 1.65. An unplayable deck has an average cmc of 4. You want like... 2.5ish, but this is not absolute.Many spells have alternative costs that inflate average cmc. Many decks have very little draw. 3.24 means, on average, you are not casting a spell before turn 3. But averages are an aggregate count of the total value across all cards, divided by the number of cards in the sample, so if you had 9 cards at 0cmc and one card at 30cmc, the average would be 3 across the 10 cards, despite 9/10ths of the cards always being playable.Brackets are silly because a 3 and a 4 are hundreds of miles apart. Do not consider them comparable, consider them entirely seperate formats with different banlists. Now why are they so far apart? The structural advantages of a player in an unlimited cardpool versus a soft banned safe space massively favor experience as the cardpool expands. Could you build a deck as good as me with every legal card in bracket 4? No chance; I know more cards and have stronger fundamentals. But the seperate rules and attitudes of bracket 3 allow for a lot more leeway, assuming your playing with strangers. Average mana value matters a lot less there; make sure you have efficient card draw, track which cards sit in your hand, and slowly change cards you never play to fill gaps you notice.
>>97541003That's okay I'm mostly just after infrastructure pieces because even though I'm going full faerie, they're already flash/instant tribal. The draining whelk made me smile, love seeing that lil fucker>>97541032>Can only attack alone>Art shows him amidst a swarm of devilsWhat kind of cut rate art direction is this
>>975413744 decks CMC is so low because they play all the fast mana that youre restricted to in 3. In bracket 3 youre only allowed 3 of these cards but in 4 you can use as many as you want to so people build around cards like chrome mox, grim monolith, and mana vault making their CMC very low. Your CMC will vary much more in bracket 3
>>97541482>let me give you a half right answer then draw the exact wrong conclusionEvery single time...
What are some one mana commanders that are fun and actually good?
>>97541559norin the wary
>>97541283I feel like they went out of their way to cut back on legendaries in Lorwyn. There's so many cool cards that inexplicably non-legendary despite their text seeming perfect for commander
>>97541559just play grist and suffer, dumb frog
>>97541588>inexplicably non-legendaryi know in everything has to be legendary nowadays but back in the day you didnt really need a reason to not make something legendary.maybe something to do with cheapening the meaning of the word
>>97541626I just think the set has a lot of cards that if you read them in isolation you'd say they read like commanders, but they're not. Given how many legendaries sets like EoE and Avatar had, it looks more like a deliberate choice, and that DOES need justifying now, even if way-back-when things were different.Honestly, looking through the set for examples I even begin to question if they took legendary off some plane-specific cards so it could go on the First-Year cycle they included as a promo for Strixhaven. A bit sad if true.
i liked lorwyns lasck of legends
>>97541702What you think of it is neither here nor there, I'm just saying I don't think the set was designed with less legendaries in mind, I think they had assembled the effects they wanted for the set and then either got told to cut back on legendaries generally, or perhaps even that there was a set number of legendaries allowed and they had to put 4 of them on the First-Years
guess I'll just go fuck myself.
who are some commanders?
>>97541718If you like it and have fun dont worry. Play against 1-2 bracket decks.
>>97541718You're fine. That site rates most of my decks as 4s but I win plenty and even run some decks people don't like to play against because they're too explosive. For instance my Wildsear enchantress deck which once allowed me to tap for 40 mana in a single turn and cascade something like a dozen timesI swear part of the calculation that site makes is the monetary value of cards even if it doesn't say it. I guess arguably, value and popularity often correlate so powerful cards will score highly by either metric, but whatever. It's absolutely dogshit at evaluating budget or less-played cards and their effectiveness
>>97541718post you're deck
>>97541753i can post my tiny dick instead, it would be less embarrassing
>>97541653is that an example of a card you think they took legendary off of? is the bar really that low for you?
>>97541777>its an "autist has a difference of opinion and feels compelled to deride people he doesn't agree with because he has no capacity to see things from any point of view other than his own and judges his own opinions to be objective" episode
>>97541787not everything has to be legendary so you can make a commander deck with it.
>>97541787Welcome to 4chan! Our ego is entirely wrapped up in people thinking our tastes on cardboard means anything.
>>97541559I love this little guy like you wouldn't believe, it's easily one of my favorite paper decks. It's just an aimless pile of "I scryfalled modular and added every result" type shit with boros artifact synergy. Somehow it still very frequently wins because people don't respect a 1/1 commander swinging at them, but it can dump all of the modular shit onto itself at instant speed and its bonus counters ability can really mess with people's mental math and take KOs out of nowhere
>>97541761No it won't, because I'm posting my deck first https://moxfield.com/decks/n383rBcPtUSlq5exJnmIZA
>>97541787Awful lot of projection because someone questioned your position
>>97541809best ill do
>>97541798Never said it did. If you would like to understand my opinions, you could try reading what I wrote about them >>97541653>>97541705
cards you have trouble saying
>>97541835protip: weird names are easier to pronounce if you bracket them (lol) as if they're actual names: Asmorano Mardicada Istina Culdacar
>>97541824>>97541824This looks like it would just need more draw, and either dropping poison or incubation tokens, trying to do both will just muddy the watersNot saying your need to go buy the one ring or anything, but your only source of draw that I can see in this is norns wellspring and that's complete shit.Getting a few pieces of worthwhile draw could probably pump this up to bracket 3 without any game changes.
>>97541835Captain NigrthrobI will never call it that again. It's just "Eddie, Ghost of the Navigator" now.
>>97538475I've made a few, mostly of D&D characters. Don't think I've made any into a proper image except pic related though.
>>97541870captain nightthrob
>>97541824>>97541718Yup, that assessment is about right.
>>97541869what even is good draw in mono white that doesn't break the theme nor costs me 10 trillion dollars.
>>97541895WHITE MANACOME ACROSS THE SEAIT HAD NO DRAWFOR YOU OR ME
>>97541895last night I had the funniest game ever with trouble in pairs + smugglers share vs two players with rhystic
>>97541718Sites like that always make me laugh.
>>97541895Wedding Ring, trouble in pairs, chivalric alliance if you are going to be aggro, tocasia welcome.That's just in white, not counting artifacts like skullclamp
>>97541559The fact you can crew him to trigger death effects is very funny
>>97541965>The Last Ridemmmm now that's a bad ass name for a truck.
>>97541972Bad Greed in the command zone is surprisingly strong
>>97541918she cute
>>97541965
>>97541588They're cutting back in general. TMNT has a bunch of creatures that are named unique characters in the comics/show like Cudley here or the Wind Avatars
>>97542016God TMNT looks so fucking bad. If obese 40-something nostalgia boomers set records with this set I may just kill myself.
>>97542030Looks like a much better set than lorwyn btw.
>>97541718Don't worry bro, I'm right there with you
>>97542034I really doesn't.
>>97542045Whatever you say Aoomie
>>97542034Bait.>>97542045You're replying to bait.
>>97541965>>97541977I wanna build it since it was revealed but I got no decks to make really. Its very open and I dont tend to build that way. Just think its a real cool card.
>>97542061>No way>Look at scryfall>Full art foil is 37 dollarsWelcome to the $20+ binder baby girl
So I'm a control player at heart. but always found mono blue & azorious control to be hard in a 1v3 format because even with cost reducers and the standard wincons in those colors to be kinda hard to pull off. Just cause those colors immediately scream "kill me"". But then I read Judith, Carnage Connoisseur, And she seems way easier to build as a control commander and easier to pull off a aetherflux win. Has anyone vs this commander or run her? How does she hold up compared to like Grand arbiter Augustine? I just feel like gaining 200+ life from a blasphemous act is pretty good.
>>97540616And Hedge Shredder
>I can't think of a stupid fucking win-con to put into this fucking new precon>Look through it>Look through it>Suddenly realizeYou guys retarded like me, and miss something so simple even though its staring you in the fucking face?
>>97542095Stop trying to play azorius as control and embrace fun>Zethi, Arcane Blademaster - combat tricks>Bruna, Light of Alabaster - self-mill>Niko, Light of Hope - blink>Arna Kennerüd, Skycaptain - equipment
>>97542045Don't reply to it, the only canon set these "people" like is NEO
>>97542111control is fun
>>97542111I wanna embrace rakdos lifegain control is sounds so gross
>>97542121ironically control is the "fair" deck of casual edh, with stax being the "fair" cedh deck
>>97540616One day I plan to actually build it, I just need to figure out what legend to have on hand for the alternate commander in case I can't rule zero him.
>>97542139Phage.
Is there any easy way to toss a bunch of the same card into the grave from deck? Or just self mill?
>>97542275best you got is using this then dumping your hand, everything else exiles all cards that share the same name,
>>97542271Doesn't really fit with what I plan to do with the deck, which is mostly board wipes. I think this guy might work, but the pips bother me since I don't have urborg and like utility lands in my monocolor.
>>97542271King shit
>>97542310>bojuka bog>castle locthwain>ebon stronghold>all the cycling B lands>MDFC B lands>sesur secundi>tomb fortress
>>97542310unless you want him out at turn 4 I think you'll be fine dropping him a bit later when you have the pips.
>>97542275Pretty much everything that grabs all cards of the same name from a deck exile unfortunately
>>97542365>all those enters tapped cardsI don't play cuck cage lands.>>97542366You may be right. I need to do some goldfishing to see how it curves out with the rest of the removal I'd be running.
>making my sister a deck>decks almost done>realize I put several infinites I dont play in any other deck because they arent fun>probably gunna put in a few tutors so its easier to get the combos>gunna throw in another anti casting card for protectionGuess her boyfriends playgroup is gunna witness an atrocity
>>97542275No. That would be busted.
>>97542285This works pretty well. Thanks.
>>97542386No you just play cucklorless lands
>>97542386>I don't play cuck cage lands.Which is immensely surprising since you play Final Faggotry. I guess you must have gotten the chop.
>>97539608You're mentally ill. Typical EDH player.
>>97538695*see them through bribery*yep, nothing weird, I'll take your biggest beater and hand you your deck back
>>97542496>God thing from games I don't play>Avatar Minion thing from books I don't readIt's the same picture.Magic is mechanics, not a setting.
>>97540616I post this instead of a nonlegendary creature because>errata vehicles and spacecraft to be commanders>as long as they can be turned into a creature:(
>>97542560Don't worry Anon Star Trek is going to drop a bunch of broken ass vehicle commanders for you to slop around with.
>>97542600Wesley Crusher is going to be the OP card though.
>>97542600honestly can't wait for star trek. I have a feeling it's gonna be the most busted set of the year.
263 days until Star Trek in MTG
>>97542617Only 190 days roughly until our first spoiler
>troons mad rhystic didn't get the hammer Shit now I have to change my mind about it...
>Set Phasers to Stun>Resistance is Futile>Beam Me Up, Scotty>Live Long and Prosper>To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before>Highly Illogical>He's Dead, Jim>KHAAAANstar trek's by far the easiest set to number crunch
>>97542643sheldon's favorite card will never be banned and gavin's gonna dump bracket 3 with griselbrand and co. just for you to get the point and power down
>>97542650Rhystic is fundamentally a bad card in commander. Because there's always one retard who never pays the 1. Basically giving a free win to the rhystic player, and if someone doesn't have spot removal (which most casual players don't) then Mr "I never pay the 1" basically screws the rest of the table.
>>97542672I mean there's really just a ton of problems with it in general>Playing against it optimally is unfun because it's a stax piece (oh hey look at Grand Arbiter Augistin IV I wonder which line of text on him people dislike)>One person can lose the game for the whole table>It's strong enough to go in literally every deck>It comes down early enough that it's the best card in cEDH>It's easy enough to use that a retard can win off itThe only reason it dodged a ban for so long is that it was dogshit in 60-card so it was the poster child for "bad card good in casual joke format". Unfortunately this cope stopped working when people actually started playing Commander and realized the "casual joke format" was a lot less fun when the best card was a stax piece. However Sheldon kept coping to himself that players can totally self-regulate.
>>97542676rhystic and tithe should both get the ban hammer for being unfun stax "I win the game" cardsmystic remora and monologue tax are better balanced to an extent
What brackets should I play if I don't enjoy people racing to see who manages to tutor combo first? I can find a lot of graveyard hate cards, but is there anything like tutor hate card? Whoever searches for a card next, loses the game? Black, white, blue, I hate all of your tutors!
>>97542703Opposition agent, Mindlock Orb, Stranglehold. those are the usually the best cards for anti tutor effects
>>97542703Shadow of a doubt, also but if you want low tutor brackets. Bracket 3 and below. Also all those cards mentioned also shut off green land ramp players so that would hurt a lot people's feelings because we can't touch anyone's precious lands!
>>97542600sorry but unlike you I don't play with UB products
>>97539236I run Disrupt decorum and Taunt from the rampart in my Boros deck. It's nice to let other people fight.
>felt no motivation at all to build decks for several months>sudden urge to split the LOTR elf precon into a Scry deck and a Voting deck>sudden urge to rework my mono-red Axonil deck into a Khorne the betrayer deckAutism is back on the menu, boys.
>>975427032 is the only soulful bracket, as long as you're in a pod without angle shooting faggots.
>>97542791hope I'll get my autism back. I miss wasting hours brewing decks and I've been playing with the same two for at least a full year
>>97542809>2 decks in a yearVerily, you need to step that up. Maybe look into colours you don't use in your decks, and try to find a niche commander in them? I had no decks in red/blue nor blue/black previously, and now I have like 2-3 in each. It's fun learning more about different playstyles and what not, too.
>>97542793I would say weak 3s are the best. Bracket 2 is usually just a game of solitaire, everyone builds up a big board, no one attacks unless they have vigilance or unblockable/flying effects, it's so boring to me.>3 hour game>group hug player wins - again - due to the "have 13 cards in your hand at the beginning of your upkeep" because retards kept feeding him all game because they "also benefit" >I was basically the only one going out of my way to make some attacks and removal happen throughout the game while everyone wanted to "keep some blockers in place"
>>97542600I think we all know they are gonna nerf 9 of 7 BIG TIME , if you know what I mean...
>>97541032>turn 2-3 he can attack with haste enablersyeah nah, I adore this card but fuck that as a commander.
>>97542823>>97542793Do people want to play bracket 2 though? I think it was hurt by the "bracket 2 is precon", because nobody wants to admit their deck is weaker than something you can buy of shelf. Everything is at least 3.
>>97540616The werewolf lord I always wanted but never got. He isn't even rare, yet he is the goodest boy.
Not custom card, but handmade proxy tokens
>>97542904bracket 2 is kind of a joke you can literally build Zada deck that will win consistently by turn 5 with zero infinities zero game changers and zero tutors and throw in all the red interaction and it still would be better than 90% of bracket 3 decks
The U.S.S. Enterprise D 1WUArtifact - SpacecraftWhen this would be destroyed, return it to the battlefield with a finality counter. When it would be exiled, return it to the battlefield.
>>97542908i mean tovolar is essentially this isnt it
>>97542755what do you play
>>97542814I've been sitting on some legends to build but don't have the motivation anymore. I've also dismantled plenty of decks because I needed the cards for other formats
>>97543022every type of control
Damn. Can I say, I fucking love the bracket system? Anyway, time for some low powered, bracket 1-2 games at my lgs! I love playing Magic.
>>97543106the idea of the brackets, as is repeated time and time again, is that how it plays and is intended matters more than what it "technically" is.yes, you can spend 5000 bucks on extremely strong cards that TECHNICALLY aren't gamechangers and be a bracket 1-2, but that is obviously not what you INTEND it to be.
>>97542911lmaoing at the quote on the Hannibal cardwould not be mad if you beast within me
>>97542911>hannibal elephant token3 out of 3, sovlfvl
>>97543136Would you believe me, if I earnestly tried to tell you, that I neither intended to make a technically bracket 1 deck, nor I expected the deck's perceived power level to be so high? I'm just laughing at the stupidity of it all. Honestly to god, I thought this deck would be low - mid 3, at best, a "7" as they would say in days of old.
>>97542904>>97542913bracket 2 is literally "everyone gets to play until t6-t7", meaning weird budget decks, noob optimized precon, no crazy effective wincons, draft piles or theme>power etcthe bracket that makes no sense is 1, which is the bracket for people who want to play anything but edh.
>>97543166No, bracket 1 is for the hardest of angleshooters, as seen here>>97543106
>>97543181is that tool approved by wotc/RC to measure bracket levels of decks? have you ever read the updated bracket beta?
>>97543136You can keep insisting on that, but the rules need to reflect the intentions otherwise people will corner shoot.
>>97543136meanwhile a guy bitched at me the other day for playing a 20 dollar pile that was too competitive or some shit
>>97543295>Play Pithing Needle naming TOR on turn 1>"You're not letting me play the game. I have no way to draw cards now!"I hate bracket 3 so fucking much these players are actual babies.
>>97542650People actually bought this
>>97543439what's TOR?
the moment you tune for local meta the brackets are essentially meaningless and you're just playing a branch/split of cedh
>>97543478TOR (TRTA)
>>97543478probably meant TRO. the one ring
>>97543489ah fuck me, you get what I meant.
>>97543485>>97543489tyty I see
>>97541777It reads like a pared back Tayam so yes.
Post your favorite charms
>>97543634I like rakdos, but I feel like I should go over each charm to really know what they're all about
>>97543634Not even a contest.
>>97543481You are an idiot retard pissbaby who does not play magic. If you dont tune your deck to the decks you see, you're missing out on 75% of the game.
>>97543481Kind of a truke and depending on how you do it, it's also just a dick move.
>>97543481I'm here to play magic, not solitaire
>>97543634
>>97543672You realize in real formats people do shit like scout and catalogue every deck at a local, cross reference and find their online usernames, analyze what they're playing, and specifically tune their decks to the things they know they're going to see before a major event, right? It is extremely common to look up a person's mtgo before a game, particularly if you know them, or to have one player intentionally play a really fast deck, then go around looking to see if anyone has any secret tech that they're busting out, write it down, and share with their friends MID TOURNAMENT. By extremely common I mean it would be unusual if they didnt. That doesnt even include checking top8 for all the 5-0 decklist dumps and putting them in excel. Playing legacy, most people can eyeball your deck based on your first land drop and one other card then know exactly what you're playing, and in my case because I'm a maniac who plays dredge, blind cabal therapy with like 80+% accuracy because I'm tuned in to the meta and can reason my way through an entire 75 card list to determine what you'd logically have stuck in your hand.Changing a couple cards because some dude is playing a reanimation decklist, or you need a stifle, or you need enchantment removal is extremely mundane, and if you dont, you are missing out on the biggest part of magic PARTICULARLY in a format without sideboards. With sideboards you do it every game.
>>97543737i rather play my deck instead of being cowed by someone else's.
>>97543748Then you'd rather lose at magic due to a low skill ceiling, which is fine and a choice you're allowed to make, but based on your commander any given sunday I'm pretty sure I can guess the key cards in "your deck", what strategy you're playing, which silver bullets would stop you completely, what answers you're likely to have, and which answers I have for your answers. This is where skill expression shows up the most in magic, and tuning is like 75% of deck building in general.
>>97543737This is literally why you're required to submit decklists before lists are published in tournaments. So you're not able to adjust your deck in response to what someone else is playing beyond the sideboard you already brought. Once the tournament starts it's fair game, but you're not even allowed to side in cards in game 1 so it hardly matters. Not to mention viewing your opponent's sideboard is why "concede at any time" is a relevant interaction above priority.>He scouts localsYeah I'm sure Timmy playing BLB Lizards is worth your time that's just embarrassing to claim.
>>97543481Brackets in practice are just like formats and wotc will use them as such
>>97543841Anon, if I'm blind guessing cabal therapy off two cards in legacy, do you really think I need to "scout" some lizard deck? On the other hand if something crazed and amazing happens, I will be amazed, but prepared for it the next time.
>>97542904>I think it was hurt by the "bracket 2 is precon", because nobody wants to admit their deck is weaker than something you can buy of shelf.Given how the World Shaper precon beats up so many timmy b2 decks i can understand why gavin said it even though he walked it backSo yes the vast majority of edh players should be playing b2 because that's really the power level they play in
>>97542676> this cope stopped working when people actually started playing Commander and realized the "casual joke format" was a lot less fun when the best card was a stax piece.Just like how best legacy card is a draw spell (brainstorm) and will always be legal because it's a "mascot" of the format, so too will rhystic study be treated by wotc>also wotc needs their chase cards for reprint equity
>>97543913This argument is more akin to labeling Sensei's Divining Top as a Modern/Legacy staple when in reality it's a card nobody liked and once it got pushed over the edge, nobody missed it.
>>97542823>Bracket 2 is usually just a game of solitaire, everyone builds up a big board, no one attacks unless they have vigilance or unblockable/flying effects, it's so boring to me.Despite Farewell being made a GC i dont think wotc would call boardwipe.dec too strong for b2 and if people dont use them then that's their problem
>>97543890the vast majority of people I've played with absolutely play at a bracket below whatever it is they say they are. I've had plenty of "bracket 3 games" where it ends after I've gotten I'm at 12 lands in mono-red or esper or some other color with no ramp.the only people who have been right about what bracket they're in have been greedy fucks that managed to convince their shop to do the take-10-put-back-3 mulligan style (AKA they don't run enough lands) or the guy who goes "yeah no it's bracket 2 there's no gamechangers" (it's voja)
>>97543931but the whiny people at my locals will, it's unsporting to play sweepers against token and elf ball drcks
>>97542793Off meta 5s (bracket 4) are the soul zone:>every card is available>you get to build whatever you want for the most part with the truly degenerate stuff gatekept >slow enough that removal matters without taking you out of the game for losing tempo, fast enough that you can actually try your best to win>real wincons are still viable and synergy with your commander can offset less viable ones>high effort cognitively demanding back-and-forth games that end quickly with no hurt feelingsThe only problem? It takes years before someone can build a deck to that level and have fun. You cant really google a list.
>>97543931I agree, but if only 1 person plays or uses boardwipes then it's the same issue..
>>97543925The funny thing is rhystic is banned as long as casuals stick to b2 and stop dabbling at higher brackets
>4 solitaire players sit down>no one playes removal>first person to solitaire wins>one person starts running removal >immediately killed by the other 3 because they can't solitaire >other 3 players resume their solitaire
>>97543986Always be boardwipe.dec if you're going to be the pod police in a casual table so you dont die to crackbacks
>>97543986don't forget >I could kill a player and shorten the game for everyone, making it a faster wait until the next game begins>...but i won't, that would be le mean :))
>>97543962>>slow enough that removal matters without taking you out of the game for losing tempo, fast enough that you can actually try your best to winI dunno man, using one of potentially only 4 turns for removal sounds like a huge tempo loss. I rather stick to B2 or 3.
>>97543962no, removal typically hands the game over to second place because of how explosive turns can bethats why bracket 5 is full of colluded draws
>>97543950Tbf tokens and elfball absolutely stomp on so many durdly b2 decks in turn so it's a fair tradeoff
>>97544019Little different. Certain combos must be stopped or the game is over. At the top end of the format, almost all interaction is taken out of decks because if you arent advancing your gameplan, you're losing. The removal that remains? Either incidental and preventative across multiple players, like Clarion, or something to stop a win on the stack. If 3 players cut almost all their interaction and you didnt, you're fucked. Mutually assured destruction pushes things in the direction you're describing (which I dont consider magic, but that's a different conversation). The entire format is small engines people are too scared to interact with because the math is bad.The difference is when you take out format defining glass cannon turbo decks, and have the expectation that interaction will exist, it dramatically changes deck building. It isnt just like... draw go control, but you can run a dismember without being embarassed. You may have a turn to respond to a setup that is going to get a wincon. The midrange engine based hellscape gets eaten entirely by slightly more expensive threats, which in turn allows a more balanced aggro-combo-control triangle strategy.>>97544007The "turn limit" thing is retarded. Winning by t6 is fast, even with good decks, particularly every game. What the turn limit thing is mostly describing is that in b3 no player should die before turn 6 and that's assinine. A game winning combo set up with only 3 game changers by t6, outside of a fragile meme, is difficult and requires a large amount of trade offs.
>>97543776hey its a real shame your attempt to sound like you are good at the game results in you admitting you have no idea what you are doing. are you not aware commander is usually played with 4 player pods, or that people have multiple decks they will hotswap between on a whim?
>>97544098>What the turn limit thing is mostly describing is that in b3 no player should die before turn 6 and that's assinineTbf gavin actually agrees with you, an "expectation" doesnt mean you dont get to god draw the table with sol ringIt's the LGS that actually enforces the "no infinites/you win the game/locks before turn X" most likely because they dont want games to potentially end too early and lose players from playing more fnm edh especially when edh isnt a Bo3
>>97544131You're not allowed to hotswap in your lgs fnm edh believe it or not
>>97544142Why would you not be allowed to switch decks...
>>97544142lol lmao
>>97543643This thing has put in so much work for me. Simic Charm is a close second
>>97544131Not in any type of tournament structure with prizes where winning or losing matters. In games of show and tell with friends? None of it matters, but you should still tune your deck.
>>97544150Because it defeats the whole point>hey i see that other pod has players that play X archetype>hehe next round if i get paired up with them i'm gonna use this other deck and beat them up with it
>>97544154Most honest angleshooter right here
>>97544131>you shouldnt tune your deck or sideboard>you should change your deck entirely to angleshootWeird flex but okay.
>>97544158>>97544160fnm isn't tournament structured.
>inside of you, there are wolves>one is a nogames faggot trying to argue about a game he doesn't play>the other one is a nogames faggot who calls out other nogames faggots>you are a nogames faggot
>>97544160Defeats the point of what exactly?
>>97544171If there are people that move through pods based on anything but vibes it is.
>>97544160>entire pod switches decks once you join>"w-wait"I love it when little gay boys like you do this, the amount of gay rape I have committed upon neckbeards is countless and relentless
>>97544171>fnm isnt tournament structured so i'm going to slow play and do infinite loops w/o saying an arbitrary large number to make games a draw because haha we're not using MTR right?Imagine acting like a nigger that grew up in a low trust society
>>97544174>inside of you there are wolves>and elves>you're hopefuly playing voja
>>97544186what are you even saying? someone who is hunting for a consistent pod so they can fine tune to that pod's very specific deck interactions is not reflective of commander in the slightest>>97544196schizo ramblings.
>>97544196>make retarded claim>get called out for the retarded claim>start projecting a bunch of horseshit instead of just saying "yeah my claim was retarded"
>>97544192Hey if you want me to pubstomp you with my fully proxied cedh deck i keep just for people like (You) just say so
>>97544169>hatingYou're the weird one. You probably don't even go to fnm tourneys. Weirdo.You're weird!
>>97544202You're arguing because you feel bad about being bad. If I know who I'm playing, and I respect them in any capacity, and I know ahead of time who I'm playing with, I will prepare for the decks I'm going to see.What I'm saying is any sort of external pod organization structure that isnt random isolated groups of people sitting by eachother and maybe mingling because vibes does not allow hotswapping like that.
>>97544206I love players like you. You moan and whine and stop having a good time the second you come up against real magic players. I chuckle to myself everytime you scoop. You never learn.
>>97544206But do you practice with it and tune it to your meta? If you dont, honestly, you might still lose.
>>97544226Are you a euro by chance?
>>97544226tournament play for regular commander is reserved for very big events, not locals. your posting has zero relevance to lgs play.
>>97544236Projection kek>>97544237If i went through the trouble of proxying a solitaire deck like rogsi i can assure you i know how to pilot it
>>97544226I only play with my friends and we swap decks on a whim. Stop larping about FNM tournies, which largely dont exist anymore, and making retarded statements about the game. Its embarrassing, and clearly no one has a similar experience to you.
>>97544243I have played in europe, funny enough. Eternal weekend. But no.>>97544244>>97544250>I only play with my friends>tuning my deck makes them feel bad>so I dontAnd why do you think that has any bearing on whether you should tune your deck?
>>97544250>. Stop larping about FNM tourniesDo you honestly think FNM tournies wont be almost all edh brackets in the future? How naive are you that you didnt think that's the whole point of wotc making an alternative to rule zero and "my deck is a 7"?
>>97544248You wish it was projection lmao. See you soon, scoopie!
>>97544202>>97544204>basement dwellers not realizing MTR actually codifies rules against slow play and infinites, rules that casuals enjoy without knowing any betterMany such cases
>>97544248>solitare deckNah, you're pretending to be tough and cool as a flex, and almost certainly pilot a stock list at below average profficiency.
>>97544254We do tune our decks. Can you stop this retarded thing where you assume we say what you need us to say so you can continue spewing retardation? If you need attention this bad mummy and daddy are a phone call away.
>>97544266>slow play against the rulesHow do simic players cope?
>>97544259Ok buddy boy keep hustling by bringing 10 decks every fnm to angleshoot the store every round lol>>97544268I bet you want rhystic banned, that's how timmy you are
>>97544255FNM tournies dont exist anon. They're a relic. Did you just wake up out of a coma or something?>>97544266What are you even trying to say here lmao this has nothing to do with anything ive typed.
>>97544254>And why do you think that has any bearing on whether you should tune your deck?because I already make my decks to handle my friends, strangers and most decks they will swap between without the need to fine tune them in the offchance of a tournament setting.>>97544266you aren't even having the same argument everyone else is, schizo.
>>97544274>attempting to infantilize meChildish behavior. Im here to talk about magic, not your interest in my mom.
Why are you falling for retarded bait?
Anyone else notice that recently the ammount of dumbass argument's has gone up compared to the typical ammount? I get the feeling 1 or 2 people are here just to start shit and argue
>>97544274>you shouldn't tune your deckThis is how tuning works in other formats, you absolutely should.>Nuh uh you dont know the rules, I'll just swap my deck.You arent allowed if the games matter at all.>Well, they dont, I tune my decks and swap anyways.So what are you talking about?>>97544286So, you tune your decks and advocate for it. Cool? What are you on about?
>>97544306nah this is sadly about normal. at least this is different than the usual tranny ub uw proxy bait, but it will probably pop up a few more times before people catch on.
>>97544290>only babies can talk to their parentsWeird thing to claim. No, you just clearly want attention, and im saying where you can get it.>talk about magicNot really, youre just talking to yourself. None of your replies even make sense as responses to the posts they are "inspired" from. Have a good one ^.^ I hope mom and dad hear from you soon
>>97544310>So, you tune your decks and advocate for it. Cool? What are you on about?anon, I literally said >without the need to fine tune themhow is that advocating?
>>97544284>he actually doesnt know the big picture reason why wotc made bracketsImagine making hot takes while being this naive
>>97543945I have no game changer bracket 1 Edgar Markov. It's just vampires, thematical deck to demonstrate eminence mechanics.
>>97544306Just wait for it. You know what I'm talking about.
>>97544310>what are you talking aboutMight be hard for you to follow as you are just typing random stuff with no relation to the topic. Im talking about how you can swap decks literally whenever.>>97544322>well in the FUTURE....You may be right or wrong, entirely irrelevant to the discussion and present moment in time.
>>97544278Simic players actually play normally, casual edh just takes 1+hrsCall out the izzet players and their nondeterministic shit sucking away time, that's what got paradox engine banned
>>97544321You run different decks that you change to, built to play against other decks in a variety of conditions, and adjust your decks to what your friends are doing. That's tuning, the correct amount of tuning.
>>97544282>t. lil' scoop
>>97544298This. FFS people look at the response's, its arguing just for the sake of arguing. Stop taking the bait you retards
>>97544334No, I make generally applicable decks that can handle most problems you should encounter in any given game. You know, a decently made deck.
>>97544330I am not going go meta argue a vaguepost. I summarized the discussion to that point. If you have anything to add, you may, but say it clearly and directly otherwise I dont particularly care.>>97544348Anon it's the same thing. You just have different decks for different situations instead of one deck that you change.
>>97544341Scoopity poopity
>>97544352>Anon it's the same thing. You just have different decks for different situations instead of one deck that you change.agan, no. I play the deck i feel like playing, I dont hot swap a deck to counter someone else at the table. and like i pointed out earlier, there's usually 2 other people to account for as well, so unless they are all playing the same type of deck, that wouldn't even work to begin with.
>>97544352Nothing ive typed is vague you actual retard lmao. Good trolling fella
I like the titty rat Ink-Eyes but don't have any intention to build dedicated ninja or rat deck. Black wizards who aren't shinobis, do you use the graveyard-raiding big tiddy furry or is she not fun in jank deck?
>>97544393You're vague in insisting that somehow tuning decks is relevant in edh but all you do is swap decks which is basically like telling your friend "hey you know that pet deck of yours? I proxied a complete counter to it! Now show me your next deck so i can counter it next time too via the printer!"
>>97544374I think, reading between the lines, is you think tuning is specifically focusing on a specific person or player and locking them out. Little different. It's adding an edict or two when someone starts playing boggles-lite, or a rule of law effect when someone starts storming. Or taking out a few pieces of gravehate when the only use of the graveyard is low impact, or adding more when it becomes a big concern.Having multiple different decks that you change between is just elaborate sideboarding. Changing for one player is unnecessary, and to be frank, tuning your deck in response to what someone else is doing is a big sign of respect for that player. But that being said, a generalized well constructed deck is always of lower power level compared to one applicable to your context, and if you can still win consistently without doing that, it speaks more to the quality of your opponents and their ability to adapt than it does about you.
>>97544423Im none of those things ^.^ good trolling fella you had me going for a bit
>>97544429NTA but i tune decks for answers (ex. hmm i didnt realize i dont have enough grave hate) while at the same time not losing sight of my deck's goal because ultimately the goal is to win and not stave off losing (ex. I run primal command because my deck revolves around tutoring a particular creature instead of running tormod's crypt)
If your deck is ready for all situations it is an aimless pile of garbage. FACT
>>97543986Interaction has become a meme unless it's stapled to a good body/persistent. There's so many low cost threats now that playing spot removal is just playing to lose, to say nothing of how pathetically easy recursion is due to its availability in basically every goddamn color. Plus a lot of shit you'd want to remove has etb effects and the game devs in their infinite wisdom made etb effects prolific but locked the overwhelming majority of stack interaction to one color. It's become the bell curve meme where idiots and smart players don't play that much interaction while midwits are the ones packing their decks with swords and lightning bolt.I'd rather just fill my own deck with bombs and leave interaction to couple of boardwipes (if they can be asymmetrical) and persistent removal cards to act as removal magnets for the players who don't comprehend that the designers have basically nerfed the concept of removal due to how many must answer bombs they've created that can effortlessly outpace any amount of removal.
>>97544484Tymna kraum is the best deck in the game though?
>>97544429>tuning your deck in response to what someone else is doing is a big sign of respect for that player.no, it really isnt. its you admitting you built your deck poorly, and you need to tailor it in reaction to getting blown out by general deck strategies instead of having a responsive deck. stop trying to make it everyone else's problem.
>>97544494Thats not why tymna kraum is good lmao. And a simple look at the popular lists show they arent ready for everything :) TK is strong because it provides good card draw, pressure, and good colors.
>>97544509Tymna kraum is midrange though and if midrange isnt the archetype prepared for all situations then what is?
>>97544484learn to build a better deck before you post.
>>97544490is this a copypasta or something? ive seen this argument way too often from people who scoop if their commander gets hit by a lignify.
>>97544507Quite possibly the most nogames string of posts ive ever seen
>>97544536sorry, meant this card. or imprisoned in the moon
>>97544507Nah. It means someone cared enough about what you were doing to stop you. A poorly built deck has answers that dont solve anything. No one has any reason to care about a bad player more than once. A good player will adapt.>>97544482Bingo, you get it. It's a constant balancing act.
>>97544520Quite literally not what midrange means.>>97544526Id love to see you post a deck anon :) i know mine are good as I win a proper amount with them. There isnt a single GOOD (emphasis on good) deck that is ready for everything. Because then its aimless.
>>97544560>A poorly built deck has answers that dont solve anythingwhy are you building decks that dont solve anything? is it just an excuse to sideboard after you lose and treat it as some act of skill? why not just make better decks off rip.
>>97544536If your deck gets shut down because one card got Pacified your deck sucks and no amount of interaction will save it anyways.
>>97544562midrange means you can go under decks with better lategame while grinding down decks with worse lategame, this is just fact
>>97544570Already explained. Some decks cant solve everything. Sometimes you need more answers than you have. Sometimes someone does something new.There is no "better deck off rip". There are better and worse decks. The best decks are lean, focused, tuned to solve what they need to, and avoid wasting energy on things they dont. And the cardpool changes every month or so, sometimes dramatically, sometimes slightly. Cant predict everything without diluting your gameplan.
>>97544571yeah its just funny people who post like you are the ones who have decks shut down by one piece of interaction.
>>97544582Where does that translate to ready for everything lmao you are truly retarded. Midrange has direct counters anon lmfao
>>97542911>hand drawn proxy tokensDamn good.
>>97544571>landfall sucks because it gets hosed by confounding conundrumIncorrect
>>97542908Should totally make a PDH deck with this boy and a bunch of common wolves.
>>97544588>Midrange has direct counters anon lmfaoAggro has direct counters too, guess what they dont matter if you're dead before they come onlineThe number of casuals itt is astouding
>>97544586the cardpool expands but decks are always going to play the same unless something really shakes up magic as a whole. graveyard hate will always turn off a deck based on reanimation, edicts will always stomp voltron. you are still arguing like you dont actually play commander.
>>97542791Sometimes inspiration does randomly pop up. I've felt similarly after some Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded posting a couple days back. Been toying with the idea of a sneak attack commander.
>Someone argues I can't pay the kicker cost when I'm playing a spell "without paying its mana cost"Its an additional cost you butt pirate, not the casting cost.
>>97544490>>97544536Both of these are true.>Many players make a deck that is incapable of functioning without its commander, either because they're bad at the game, the commander is the only real enabler for their desired strategy, or they desire the more unique play pattern it can provide. Whatever the reasoning, this usually means they lose if you blank it>The best decks do not have this obvious of a chokepoint, which renders the claim about spot removal being bad correct (cEDH rarely even runs Swords)
>>97544323edgar isn't necessarily a strong deck, he's just one of the most popular.
>>97544639cedh is a solved format, what they do or dont do isn't relevant to commander.
>>97544639Cedh doesnt run swords because the format is so explosive they can afford 1 mana bounce like into the flood maw while providing max coverageThough if the trend of powerful creatures like hexing squelcher and bowmasters continue then an argument can be made for free creature removal like deadly rollick
>>97544613That was probably me. Do it, its great fun. Pleanty of variety if you build it right
>>97544608>claim a deck archetype is ready for everything>it has direct counters>therefore its not ready for everythingThanks for wasting my time nig
>>97544611Depends which gravehate. And it's even more relevant in commander than other formats because you cant side LotV and mulligan until you get it. To prove my point, Rest in Peace is the universal ultimate answer. Hard to remove, easy to get, absolute. But it's slower than tormods. You may not have access to white, tormods is free and can go in every deck, but without design considerations tormods only works once so if you time it incorrectly, you slow them down instead of stopping them. Voidwalker is a good answer, but it's a small easy to remove creature that needs BB; for some decks that's easy, others struggle immensely. Bojuka bog is good, but if you need the mana you dont have it, and unless you're crop rotationing into it it's hard to get. Then you have like relic of progenitus and unlicensed hearse. One only hits one player. The other exiles all graveyards but at a higher cost despite cantripping. Sometimes it's better to fight the recursion on the stack and ignore the graveyard entirely. Sometimes its better to go fast. Putting hearse and tormods and relic and scrabbling claws in every deck hurts your consistency. Getting them involved the missed opportunity cost of using your one-of tutor, or drawing a fuckload with your remaining cards.So, in other formats, you sideboard. In edh? You're just fucked, and the answer is instead of running all of this or that, you instead assess what you need to run in the first place, what the minimum reasonable concessions are that dont fuck your gameplan, and live with the fact you cant answer everything cleanly forever unless you're a multicolour abomination toolbox deck that does lottle else.
>>97543945>build ardyn big mana demons>not even running the bullshit demons like the infinite draw or the eldrazi-like demon>most expensive cards are big black mana ramp>"lmao anon plays 8 mana commander on a budget we will play our bracket 2 decks">they didn't know all of my removal is edicts and wipes that get around protection>also run every cheap reanimate spell in the book>complete annihilation>"wtf anon, bracket 3 it is">complete annihilation againsome strategies will never be weak
>>97544667>nooo i have to account for every single thing, just winning the game doesnt count!Enjoy your perpetual analysis paralysis
>>97544667Hatebears answers everything, poorly. Toolbox decks answer everything, once. And instead of either of those, why wouldnt you just play something that ignores your opponents altogether?
>>97544653cEDH is literally what Commander looks like when you're not self-imposing rules to make your deck worse on purpose. A card is shaped by the framework it exists in, and when you add the caveat of "well people are now designing their decks with a comically obvious chokepoint" then yeah obviously blanking it becomes drastically better. However the best way to build a deck has the commander as a standalone value engine rather than a buildaround.>>97544663Fuck Bowmasters this card is still shitting up Legacy and the worst part is now people cope that it prevents Tamiyo from instaflipping when the reality is both should be banned.
>>97544692Nice non sequitur. Allow me to sum up again the exchange>you make a claim that midrange is a deck ready for everything>I inform you midrange has direct counters, meaning it's not ready for everything>your ego prevents you from going "oh ya im wrong"
>Feel like I should build and elf deck>The only elf that slight appeals to me is Morcant>Every one else is building the slutRippity rip.
>>97544702I cry every day that all X/1 creatures are removed from the format because of bowmasters. Glimpse of nature, oh how I miss thee...
>>97544653You mean other than new cards every set changing the meta and extremely slow adoptation curve, right?
>>97544725>New cards changing the metaWhen was the last card that changed the meta and actually challenged blue farm?
>>97544708ntsa but you are being obtuse and i can only hope you know better. "ready for anything" doesnt mean "it cant lose" it means it can win any given matchup with the right rng between the decks.
>>97544708Sorry your shit list isnt cedh viable but there's a reason why tymna kraum is 10% of the meta while still enjoying 25% wr, turns out winning is all that matters in the end lol
>>97544734Right now? Partners are a blight, but this shit is cracked. It's also the main place hexing squelcher has any relevance at all.
>>97544679>and the answer is instead of running all of this or that, you instead assess what you need to run in the first place,or. or. or. run more versatile cards that still benefit your gameplan. of course you wont have access to every answer every game, you are running a 99 card deck and even the most tutor heavy decks will eventually brick. but that doesnt mean you need to tune your deck every time you lose. just build a better deck next time.
>>97544742Fun fact: If your opponent shuffles their graveyard to resolve that card they created an illegal gamestate because in EDH your graveyard is supposed to remain ordered.
>>97544757Correct but that would mean adhering to MTR and that means no proxies
>>97544741>he actually believes stats about cedhCome on, step it up senpai. The self reported fiddlefuck aggregate tournament results are so comically biased and outdated they're essentially irrelevant. Real formats? MTGO leagues, 5-0 decklist dumps, challenges, real tournaments. CEDH? Old vibes. At best.>>97544757Good to know, I am absolutely going to angleshoot someone with that.
>>97544755>that doesnt mean build your deck better>it just means build a better deckExhausting, if I'm being real. And more versatile answers are slower, less specific, and are versatile across more axes, but more narrow in direct impact.
>>97544765>they're all in on it to make the nigress and the zombie look good!Kekw
>>97544737Ready for anything doesnt mean it cant lose, correct! What it does suggest though is that it has no counters>nta but let me be wrong too>>97544741Another non sequitur because you made a factually incorrect statement. Good on ya
>>97544776No, there are a lot of bads, a lot of idiots, and mostly a lot of people who google "best deck cedh", proxy it with no investment, dont change a single card, play against a handful of edhonlies doing the same thing, win against inferior competition, and post results that bias the data incredibly towards easy to play linear strategies with a lot of eyeballs on them. This is not a format where each banlist and new set everything gets set back to zero then grinded to oblivion. Do you even analytics?
>>97544776I mean he's not totally wrong in the sense that while players are obviously perpetually trying to win, the format evolves more slowly because of how many elephants are in the room when it comes to actually identifying the best deck. Tournament winners are more often people that just collude and don't get caught, and ties are an absolute blight on tournaments because they basically mean getting seeded well at the start is free top cut because playing to an ID is extremely easy in cEDH.
>>97544772>And more versatile answers are slower, less specificive really enjoyed watching you consistently argue like commander is a 1v1 format all morning.
>>97544791Then according to a schizo like you the term "ready for anything" should be removed from the english language then, because you're mortal and cant counter death duh
>>97544709Abomination Of Lanowar is fine if you just want the colors and the potential of a big beater once the tokens come out or after a wipe. Or you could try some do the elf partners that give you the same two colors.
>>97544791>What it does suggest though is that it has no countersno, it doesnt. if anything id argue a well balanced deck has no 'hard' counter to begin with.
>>97544792Kinnan is the 2nd most played deck and has a worse wr because it's baby's first cedh deckIf noobs pilot tymna kraum because they just googled it then blue farm wr would suffer accordingly and yet that doesnt happen lol>>97544797Correct but that applies to any deck not just blue farm
>>97544798That's just your opinion. Instead of tuning it to the conversation, it appears you have used generalized inadequate answers that are unable to solve the problems presented. The versatile answers you used may hit a lot of points against people who are unprepared, but they are not of sufficent depth to solve the problem at hand, and you have spent almost all your time drawing silver bullets that sit in your hand without advancing your boardstate.Do you build a better argument and start over? Or should you refine what you're saying? The later is much easier, more effective, and makes more logical sense. But you do you.
>>97544814Why should I build a better argument, mine clearly won as you are moving the goalpost>you may solve 9 of the 10 problems across the table>but i solved 4 of the 3 problems one person presented!see its funny, because its like a metaphor of you having to sideboard your shitty deck/argument
>>97544640Edgar is weak as shit but people aren't ready to have that conversation yet.
>>97544809Farm is like 3 years old, maybe more. It was around the same time rog si, which was only really playtested into its current shape about 2 years ago. Farm is very easy to play, this isnt that esoteric deadpool naming ruthless technomancer infinite loop crap, or the new hotness which is minstril land piles that people havent quite figured out but are currently brewing. You play small efficent dudes, bonk people, draw cards, and set up your wincon. Most people with a passing familiarity could figure it out. Kinnan is more consistent because it has a more direct gameplan, get infinite mana and blast someone, and badgermole cub gave it a fairly large boost.But at the end of the day, it appears you do not understand the meta about metrics, and are repeating something you read somewhere else.
>when a girl sees you play rhystic study why haven't blue players killed themselves yet?imagine how much more fun the game would be without bluefags
>>97544709>slutYou will show proper reverence to the cute elf queen!
>>97544846>That many disgusted reactions to small dicksThis bitch has a fetish for small dicks.How is blue even a problem for you anymore when they keep putting so much bullshit into the game that stops counterspells and casting on other people's turns?
>>97544834Seems you have nothing else to say. When you decide to talk about magic, you can resume. But you know where this is going to lead, right? Being asked to post your deck that answers everything, and being evaluated to the bar you set. Good luck, you can proceed whenever you want.
>>97544844Blue farm is indeed easy to play compared to its peers but ease of play is a bonus and part of why it's the best deck
>>97544799How does this relate to decks anon. My goodness it is okay to be wrong
>>97544846And yet we wouldnt have edh if it werent for sheldon, a bona fide bluefag>yes your favorite game was made by a bluefag, hahahaha
>>97544839A free 1/1 anon, literally game breaking!!!!!! Give your head a shake >=(
>>97544864It's almost like I knew what I was talking about, immediately told you the answer why cedh metrics are not the same as metrics in a real format, and you agreed with me. Imagine that?
>>97544866>cant counter my argumentLooks like you werent ready for shit kekw
>>97544862moving the goalpost to me providing some mythical unbeatable deck is bracket 1 bait. just accept your sideboarding is a bandaid for bad deckbuilding and you'll be happier in the end.
>>97544876Sure? This isnt related to the discussion at all. Youre just floundering because you fragile ego cant handle being wrong.
>>97544872I doubt you even know what you're talking about given you seem to put kinnan on the same level as blue farm just because it got badgermole cubThis isnt like bo1 arena where it's full of mono red that have atrocious wr, if blue farm wasnt as good as it is it wouldnt have such good stats
>>97544880Mythic? I thought you said you should build a better deck instead of tuning. And since you know what is and what isnt better, you should show the thread. It seems your post contradicts itself, and you have decided that you are unable to fufill the criteria you established.
>>97544883>Sure?Concession accepted
>>97544890But what are the stats counting? They're counting an aggregate that incorrectly represents the current sample, and drawing your inferences based on that is a category error indicative of someone outside the current context.
>>97544846Tell us who your favorite commander is anon.
>>97544896see, like I said, you moved that goalpost exactly as I said you would. >b-b-but you said!I preempted the standards you will hold any deck presented to you at, you aren't clever enough for anything more.
>>97544846>girlWomen don't play Magic
>>97544910I like Sheoldred and Elesh Norn, I want my phyrexian queens to humiliate me and step on me.
>>97544919If what you said made any sense, this entire discussion would be in past tense. Since what you said is elaborate bait, enjoy the taste of my nuts and my taint on your plate.You didnt said anything. You want attention, set an impossible bar, and are no longer involved in a discussion because what you said cannot be proven or intuited.
>>97544904I'm not arguing that the stats are skewed given the heavy draw nature of cedh but it's another thing to claim that tymna kraum isnt the best deck regardless, especially when its sister deck rogsi also has a 25% wr with good representation, it's almost like a certain grixis plan is overall the best
>>97544941It's not past tense because you wont change even when called out, as I'm proving since you are now sperging out over itBuild a better deck next time and you won't need to sideboard in basic answers to common deck archetypes.
>>97544929Simps disgust meWomen are meant to be conquered not put on a pedestal, at the very least just treat her as a sugar mommy
Rogsi is very clearly the strongest cedh, it just doesnt win the most. But it can present the earliest protected wins out of just about any cedh list.
>>97544973Correct because not only was it nerfed because dockside and co. were banned your 3 opponents immediately mull aggressively for interaction
>>97544950It's good, but the best is the best, and I remain skeptical based on the data you're using. We can leave it there.
>>97544954Which deck is a better deck anon? Your deck? May I see this deck? As was always stated, it's much more reasonable to assume tuning your deck will increase its power to solve your problems.
So is Lathril just a game of placing as many lords onto the board as possible and finding an overrun while using the tap ability as a safety net?
>>97545012Let me get back on track and ask you one serious question. In your little fantasy of consistently playing the same people/same decks over and over again to learn what cards to run till it is as optimized as it can possibly be for this pod. What will you do when you still lose roughly 3/4ths of the time? or greater, as I assume you extend the same fantasy to the other players and will allow them to sideboard just as much as you.
>>97545050I dont play games of made up hypotheticals from a nonsense man making silly assumptions.I will tell you it doesnt take more than a game or two to identify a problematic matchup or interaction. And because everyone does that, it's a constant give and take where everyone tries their best, which makes winning irrelevant because each loss gives you knowledge of what you can improve, which is just as valuable. There is no sideboard in edh, I wish there was, but there is no sideboard. Between intervals of playing magic anyone is free to change anything they want, and they should. Not doing so means your opponents are not to be respected, you are unable to assess what is and isnt effective to the extent to make a difference, or you have maxed out what you can do with the strategy you have.
>>97538475>TQshit arrived late to the party
You're tasked to make Nadu 2.0Do you make him better or worse than Nadu 1.0?
>>97545160Nadu 2.0 already exists
>>97545160You just print the fixed alchemy version into paper and call him Nadu, Redeemed Wisdom and call it a day.
>>97545092NTA but since edh has no sideboarss "you have maxed out what you can do with the strategy you have" is pretty much the goal, along with wishing that wotc prints better versions of the cards you use like rampant growth + exile up to one target card from a graveyard
>>97545195While true, there are always alternate strategies to solve the same problem. Some require more or less effort than others. Do you add more ramp or rebuild your deck to lower your curve? Do you increase your card draw to get access to more consistent fixing, add more ways to fix, or do you smplify your devotion to avoid the issue in the first place? Do you run more doomblades to stop creatures, do you run more artifact removal to slow your opponent's tempo so their creatures are more managable, or do you cut all doomblades entirely and run more wraths?There is always ways to improve your deck, and without context, it flattens your potential problem solving across two dimensions you can more or less solve for: speed and consistency. A fast consistent deck that is fragile is as maximized as the strategy can get because it sacrifices everything else to invest in those attributes. However, the answer people often miss is that if your opponents have to stumble around a silver bullet, suddenly your deck can be slightly slower, but if your opponents dont stumble you have only made your deck worse, so it's a balancing act.
>>97545121I like this one mechanically.
>>97545247even just the first line would be fine by me I'd just love a focused grixis spellslinging/token commanderalso made this one
>>97545092>I dont play gamesyou should have just stopped there, because we could all tell from your first post. remember, just make better decks from the outset and you wont have to sideboard in basic fixes to cover your poor deckbuilding.oh, and it seems you are trying to backtrack and say basic upgrades to your deck is the same as sideboarding, thats so cute and pathetic.
>>97545295Post one of your decks anon. You keep talking about making good decks, post one!
>>97545295Why are you playing autism games with a guy who very clearly and thoroughly explained something helpful, with incredible specificity, by intentionally misrepresenting what he said? There is no winning here.>>97545299I agree. I would like to see.
>>97545257Mono black thematic blink. I dig it. Surprised we don't really have something like this. Outside of those undying instants like Not Dead After All and a sacrifice enabler.
new non homo (((EDHREC))) just dropped!>recommander.cardsrecommander.cards>recommander.cardsrecommander.cards>recommander.cards
>>97545362how can you guarantee to me it's not pozzed? did you make it?
NEW NEW sorryyou're not gonna spam report my thread hybridfag hehe>>97545540>>97545540>>97545540
>>97545362aw shit nigga, you trynna steal my decklists?
>>97542908>>97544601Seconding this guy
>>97538475Almost a decade ago, I started making a set based on Final Fantasy. I had no idea that we'd actually get a FF set in the future.Most of the cards in it were fairly boring mechanically though. It was made at a time when I was in my "value" phase, where every card was a simple and basic staple like thing. Most spells were cheap and had a choice of effects, like destroy target creature or land or similar. Lots of enchantments that couldn't be directly destroyed either, and they had a "level up" ability that would unlock new abilities on some cards.
>>97538530>>97540832
I made a good amount of Kamen Rider customs, but I feel the Gavv cards turned out best.
