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Previous Thread: >>97535484

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why is the Whitworth
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>>97546900
Because sometimes Trebuchets go on diets.
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>>97546897
What books should I read to really "get" battletech?
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>>97546979
120 Days of Sodom
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>>97546924
Or Javelins eat one too many burgers
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>>97546979
The 80's Housebooks.
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https://archive.org/details/rpgdragon-issue-01
Someone at Reddit scanned a Japanese magazine with BT stuffs in
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Would applying a base coat of chrome and then speed paint on top give a desirable metal finish to mechs?
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>>97547206
Looks like it starts on page 98
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>>97546520
You misunderstand, we aren't happy about it. It is, however, the current state of IlClan lore, which is generally not very good.
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>>97547230
You need a lacquer, not a glorified wash, to get a good candy coat.
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>>97547238
Would love a Sears catalogue from Sea Fox showing off all the goodies for sale.
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>>97547301
Would love the Delos to return to Regulan space and nuke the fuck out of Beta Amiag.
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>>97547206
Back in the 90' under Fasa's license, Battletech in Spain, Italy, France, Germany and Japan published exclusive content for locals
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>>97546897
Very good edition
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>>97546265
>Gothic was a flop
Nice gaslighting
>liked to see more?
Sure, but CGL effectively managed my expectations by calling it one-and-done from the start
The Gothic edition of Shrapnel and especially the Abomination box are delicious icing on this case
>it died
More gaslighting, just for one thing the Abomination boxes have not even come out yet
>its failure
I couldn’t roll my eyes any harder at this attempted manipulation
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>>97547230
This anon
>>97547245
isn't necessarily wrong; but more instructively: a good metal finish will rely on having a smooth clear and shiny topcoat as well.

You will be looking at layers like this:
1. Black Primer, as smooth and dark as you can get
2. Chrome, as smooth and clean as you can get
3. Clearcoat (optional), you guessed it, smooth and clean
4. Speedpaint, be careful to avoid pooling and try to make sure it only accumulates in recesses
5. Clearcoat (mandatory), say it with me, as smooth and clean as you can get it
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>>97548070
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>>97548101
This is the worst advice Ive ever heard, priming black is for beginners who dont know how to basecoat.
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>>97548142
It helps you perform blacklining.
Obviously you don't prime black if your minis is primarily a bright color like yellow, orange, or white. But otherwise it saves a lot of time. Go read any of the Citadel painting guides.
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>>97546520
CGL did not like the religious connection I guess. To this day some people will not say 'Jihad Era'.
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>>97546979
Total Warfare
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>>97548168
Blacklining? Nobody's used blacklining in 30 years. What kind of shit tier uncslop are your minis anyway? Fuck off, you're too old to post here.
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>>97548168
After years of zenithal priming and doing the beige + contrast/speedpaint thing, I’ve returned to priming black and am having a great time.
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Clanners are assholes
Word of Blake and pre-schism Comstar are dicks
and everyone else are pussies

Change my mind!
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Can someone toss me the audiobooks for Rock of the Republic, Shell Games or Honor's Gauntlet please? Thank you, anons <3
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>>97548070
How many boxes of Gothic did you buy then?
Do you have a copy of Gothic Shrapnel to show the class?
Why have you not shown us your fully painted Gothic box BOTH times you posted this bait?
And finally, go makeout with a noose.
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>>97548495
It’s interesting how personal this is for you, son.
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I simply adore the King Crab. This fucker just does not die no matter what you hurl at him.
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>>97548500
I accept your concession. We are done here.
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>>97548500
Any more shit takes for the thread, Kraken?
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>>97548501
He's the "I don't hear no bell" of the game tbhon.
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>>97548505
You’ve posted this so many times, even your mom is tired of saying “that’s nice dear” when you tell her you posted it yet again.
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>>97547064
>>97547150
>>97548243
thanks
tho I feel one of these replies is a joke.
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>>97548506
What kind of moron assume only one person sees it differently from themselves lol
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>>97546520
>>97548207
Comstar should stay dead like Smoke Jaguar and Seafox should die after a while.
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>>97548740
The kind that recognizes text patterns, but don't you worry about that lad.
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>>97548779
It’s funny that you answer that way, because I have no idea who “Kraken” is
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>>97548798
>merely pretending to be retarded

Ok.
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>>97548501
I love the King Crab but have extremely bad luck every time I field one.
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Are you posting from a padded room? JFC
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>>97548824
Last time I used one, it was cored by the first shot fired at it.
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>>97548824
I think it's safe to say that 90% of fluke, shouldn't have happened shots throughout the history of battletech have landed in the face of king crabs.
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>>97548506
I'm neither that anon, nor your personal boogeyman, nor, for that matter, a fan of gothic.
The abomination minis would be cool for 5core/5 parasecs 1e though.
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>>97548972
And yet, here you are, as if summoned by the mere mention of your name. Better not say it three times or else we'd never be rid of you
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>>97549015
Or it could just be you, samefagging away in the asylum
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>>97549036
Sure anon, if it makes you feel any better, let's just say it's me "samefagging" in an "asylum"
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Am I correct that there is an updated rulebook releasing soon so buying a hard copy now isn't worth it?
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I have never played Battletech and don't know much about it. My dad recently mentioned he played it back on the 90s and loved it.

I noticed there are several different starter boxes, which one is the best I should get to play with my dad? Thanks for all answer, pic unrel
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The ROS should have built a 60 Ton Drone Mech at some point.

Mainly I'm thinking it should have a C3 Master System
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>>97549147
Yes. The new core boom will basically be a replacement for the Battlemech Manual and will include full rules for mechs plus Asset rules for other unit types. Allegedly it's gonna hit at gencon but i think that's wildly optimistic and holiday season of this year seems more likely, if not 27.

This book will be followed by another book with full rules for vehicles and other unit types, but that'll be later. Probably a year or more after.
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>>97549158
The one called "A Game Of Armored Combat" is the best starter. It has 8 mechs, mapsheets, and a rulebook. The rules are the same ones your dad remembers from the 90s with only very tiny tweaks. And 8 mechs is perfect since a standard match is 4v4.

He might talk about the Clans. They're covered by the Clan Invasion box set, which is meant as an add on to the first box.
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>>97549158
BattleTech: A Game of Armored Combat 40th anniversary edition box it's your best option
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>>97549147
>soon
I mean playtesting closed recently so
>>97549158
To play Classic BattleTech (the one that use paper maps with HexGrids), you have three good options:
>BattleTech Essentials
>Beginner Box
These retail at 25USD and come with two plastic minis each. There’s not a huge amount of difference between them, so you could just pick based on which of the included minis you like more.
>A Game of Armored Combat
This is the ‘proper’ starter set with 8 plastic minis (CBT is often played ‘lance versus lance’ meaning two teams of 4 mechs each). Retail on this is 60USD but you could play for the rest of your life with just this box.
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>>97549158
The Game of Armored Combat is the starter box for the proper game (don't bother with the Beginner Box that comes with 2 mechs, that only has extremely simplified rules). It comes with almost full rules for playing with mechs with succession wars tech level (they cut some extremely niche rules for space, but nothing that would really matter in a normal game) and enough mechs for 2 4-mech lances, which is the size of forces most people play with.
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>>97549188
>the Clan Invasion box set
FYI this is now OOP
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>>97549015
>browse thread after gym
>delusional schizoid screeching about me when I havnt posted in days
>puy name on to tell schizoid he's barking at phantoms
You have issues that need seeing too. Look for help elsewhere.

>>97549147
Yes, with rules updates that should actually be really good. I am tentatively hopeful as all the changes shown so far have been ones the community has been asking for for decades and should be a major improvement.
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>>97549216
Not yet. Getting retired soonish but still found on shelves easily enough
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>>97549227
Didn't you say you weren't an attention whore like bottom is a little while ago?
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>>97549231
What I mean is, Catalyst is no longer printing the Clan Invasion box. So what’s in circulation right now is all that’s left.
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>>97549234
Just because you constantly obsess about someone doesn’t make them an attention whore
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>>97549234
Yee. Which is why I largely don't post with a name anymore. Just wanted to let the schizo ken he was speaking to someone else. Its kind of weird to find that you live rent free in someone's head.
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>>97549216
The clan invasion box will be replaced with a minis force pack and rules included in a new book because is kinda older than core box though
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>>97549251
I mean, it's pretty attention whorey to put a name (back) on just to try and make it look like you may or may not be the same person to someone else. It'd be better just to ignore things since they're just words on a screen rather than engage.
But to each their own, I suppose.
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So right now is total warfare the most comprehensive rulebook available?
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>>97548501
That crab is fuuuuuuucked.
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>>97549256
Right, but no eta on the Clan Invasion Forcepack and it will not really replace the box set (no map sheet or Elementals). Really a shame to lose that box because it pairs so perfectly with AGoAC for new players.
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>>97549276
Total warfare is the book that will be replaced with new one
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What's wrong with the Clan Invasion box, why are the removing/replacing it?
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>>97549307
Because CGL are dumb
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>>97549307
No exact details, but I suspect they figure everyone who wants it has gotten it. We're getting a Star pack with the 5 mechs, so they'll be cheaper, and since all the rules are getting moved to the new core book, the only thing that won't be available is the mapsheets, which I suspect will show up somewhere else
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>>97549307
No ilClan-era record sheets, rules, and ilClan era primer, this was added in the 40th anniversary core box, plus 3 of the 5 clan mechs are available in other products (2 in alpha strike and 1 in some force pack) since years ago
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>>97549294
fuck. oh well it seems to be sold out everywhere anyway
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I'm thinking of using the Terraforming Mars 3D tiles and map for a campaign map. Hexes are slightly bigger than BT ones. I figure this will be easier than other shit. Anyone done something similar?

The 3D tiles are free, a gift from a friend with too much oil-rig job money and a wife who has decided a baby would make better decorations thsn a hundred and sixty mostly unplayed board games, so cost isn't a factor.
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>>97548501
Then don't be afraid to hurl some paint at him, eh?
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>>97549392
I have. Here's the rules I made for my map campaign: https://victorypointproductions.neocities.org/PDFs/Rules.pdf
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>>97549400
>Then don't be afraid to hurl some paint at him, eh?
Pretty sure he's Comstar/Word of Blake...
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>>97549495
More grey, less white.
Just like doing a good black in that regard, you've got to use off-tones to define the color without making it loo like flat primer.
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>>97549158
A Game of Armored Combat is where you should start. Grab a few extra sets of dice in a few different colors and you’re good to go.
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>>97548398
>Clanners are assholes
Correct
>Word of Blake and pre-schism Comstar are dicks
Correct but also post-schim Comstar are dicks
>and everyone else are pussies
Correct but debatable, the great houses growed a pair, nuked smoke jaguar and the only reason that other clans didn't get the same fate is because Fasa and writers chickened out, same thing applies to let Comstar/Word of Blake alive for a long time until recently (and basically use Seafox as proxy now)
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>>97549548
>nuked smoke jaguar
Come on, man. Read the lore.
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Since BT ships dosnt have artificial gravity aside from spinney bits, why are all crew quarters in official art normal looking?
When not planetary, they would be floating. around so need to strap themselves to their beds and not just leave things floating around.
How do they transport the mechs and all the parts / equipment around in a leopard if it would be floaty?
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>>97549582
Not my fault that CLG decided to revive Smoke Jaguar to basically recreate 3050 base setting for Alpha Strike on ilclan era
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>>97549607
Acceleration forces everything to the back. Accelerating at precisely the right speed forces everything to the back with the same amount of force as 1g.
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>>97549607
All compartments in BattleTech space craft can reorient themselves as necessary to utilize acceleration as gravity.
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>>97549158
Start with downloading pdfs of the rules and using tokens to play, dont buy anything until youve got some games in and know you'll stick with it.
Unless you just like painting tiny robots, in which case the quality of the CGL models is low, reccommend 3D prints which are crisp and sharply detailed.
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>>97549548
Oh look its made up grog rumors as fact. Neat.
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>>97549607
Spheroid Dropships are built like squat towers, with "up" oriented along the direction of thrust so that while under acceleration you benefit fron that gravity. Aerodyne dropships have two thrusters - a set at the back for atmospheric maneuvers which allows them to take off from a runway, and a set of "belly" thrusters underneath that's used for space flight and allows them to use thrust gravity while transiting between planet and jump point.
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>>97549623
That's not true, they just use belly drives in space rather than rear ones. Except for that one shitty infantry assault dropship where everything has to rotate and the corridors become ladderwells.
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Cuckstar
Word of Blacked
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>>97549623
I could maybe see that on the union, being the lovable murder delivery ball it is. But you cannot tell me a leopard has the space for that.
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>>97549654
The Leopard's belly drive means that while in space, "up" is the same as on the ground. If you're docked with a JumpShip while it's charging, you just have to deal with being in free fall until you disconnect.
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>>97549637
>>97549622
so when connected to a jumpship its zero g unless matched to the jumpships acceleration and facing the same way?

Sorry to be a pest, im trying to map out a jumpship and how they connect and everything.
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>>97549666
Yep. And notably, jumpships only have weak station keeping drives that aren't enough to produce noteworthy acceleration. Jumpship crews live in microgravity long term.
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>>97549670
Jumpships usually have spinning grav decks where everyone hangs out, including docked dropship crews if they aren't going anywhere soon.
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>>97549666
>>97549670
But this is also why Jumpships will have Centrifugal Decks to allow Crew and Passengers a place to work out.
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How long does the acceleration gravity last?
I dont have the maths but you cannot keep accelerating forever.
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>>97549713
Deceleration does the same thing, you just flip over first. You can accelerate for as long as your fuel reserves hold out, the hard limit on acceleration is too high to matter in practical terms. You'll be shooting out into the empty space between star systems, then run out of fuel long before you reach the speed limit.
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>>97549548
Post-schism Comstar are cucks especially when they became Victor-Steiner Davion's codpiece.
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>>97549729
>you just flip over first.
>Just roll over and accurate in the other direction.
How in the fuck did I not think of that.
Thank you good anons.
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>>97549640
>>97549662
It's always kind of silly to me that aerodyne DropShips in space will be flying at a 90 degree angle. I mean, it makes sense since that way you can keep the same orientation of decks as when landed on a planet, but I can't imagine it not looking kind of goofy.
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>>97549932
Being in space means that aerodynamics just don't matter.
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>>97549748
This is also crucial because you need to match velocities with your destination (either a jumpship or planet) and thus need to shed the velocity you built up accelerating towards it. The math for a zero/zero intercept is pretty fundamental to space flight and boils down to "spend half the trip accelerating towards the target, then half accelerating away so you don't zoom past it at a very high relative velocity"

Theoretically you don't have to thrust the whole time and could even spend nearly all your time coasting after an initial kick, then flip around when you get there and just cancel out the initial kick. This saves fuel but makes you spend a massive amount of time drifting in free fall. The more time you spend thrusting and the higher your thrust is, the lower your travel time.
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Do various ships exchange cargo when docked and in zero G then? Or do they land somewhere first?
I imagine it must be a pain to lock down entire mechs and mecybay equipment, parts, ect when you dock with a jumpship. Transporting them even more so. Suppose robotic arms would help with a good bit.
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>>97549948
Mechs are stored in harnesses that support their weight when under gravity or accel so you can work on load bearing parts. These hold the mechs down when not under thrust too.

Transferring cargo in microgravity is a hassle but can be done. You'll want people who are experienced in EVA work. It's definitely doable to, say, transfer a mech from one dropship's open bay to another while both are in free fall, but it's not easy.
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>>97549948
All docking collars are compatible, so you can connect any ship to any other ship (or space station) to transfer cargo or whatever. Landing and putting all the cargo in a warehouse for the next ship to pick up is an option, and also often why raiders looking to steal stuff land on planets in the first place.
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More playtesting an Alpha Strike mod for infantry skirmishing. Needs a good deal more work. But quite fun to see Liao Regulars kick Clan Wolf’s butt.
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>>97549935
I know, but it just looks weird imagining them flying like this next to ASFs and WarShips that have a more conventional orientation.
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All this low gravity logistical talk got me thinking about how rare it is to see.
I think earlier gundam had some, but they gave every suit a full EVA pack eventually so its not so common.
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>>97549998
technically warships dont either. Most at least give the appearance of naval inspiration, but they would function like 'towers' aswell no?
Baring internal spin bits of course.
So the prow is the top rather than a front.
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>pulse lasers are more accurate than regular lasers
How? They are lasers. Light speed is light speed. The canon explanation makes 0 sense. It would explain damage...
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>>97550056
If anything regular lasers would be more accurate as you can physically see if they miss and adjust mid-beam for at least partial damage
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>>97550056
It's a gap in the abstraction, sometimes a laser "missing" actually just means it couldn't hold on one spot long enough to do damage, not that it was a complete whiff. A pulse laser that can't hold for long enough could still do damage because of the debris settling away before follow-up pulses that make it in. An argument could be made to have lasers do cluster damage, or do less damage if you only barely manage to hit (or maybe even still do a little damage on a near miss, but lasers really don't need the extra help), with pulses doing more.
But that's a level of complication that the devs didn't want to or didn't think of putting on it.
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>>97549998
At least one of them rotates the seats match the direction of thrust.
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>>97549400
He's part of my WoB Militia :)
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>>97549973
That sounds interesting. Are you using AS to play infantry skirmishes in the Battletech universe?
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Just realised naming my ComStar/WoB Dragon "Blakes Dragon" sounds wrong and I should 100% come up with a new name.
Blake's Serpent?
Nah.
I'll work it out.
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>>97548501
>Highlander doesn't even have a point of damage on it
They're just picking on bro T_T
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>>97549403
Got anything for Arufa Storaiko?
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>>97549973
The galactic warzones piece are made out of plastic or resin?
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>>97550208
Wyrm of Blake!
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>>97550208
Blakefire
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>>97550183
That’s exactly correct, although it’s a highly modified version of AS
>>97550275
They are resin
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>>97550232
I try my best not to think about Alpha Strike.
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Imagine modifying AS instead of Btech for an infantry game. Not having ablative body armor. not tracking damage to internal organs. No unmanageable 100 page hardback tome of infantry small arms with a separate 50 page supplement for the support weapons. Why even bother?
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One of the guys in my group has been advocating for BLKOUT as a decent Battletech infantry combat sim. Haven't tried it yet though, but apparently its mini mechs could adequately represent Battle Armor
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>>97550452
That hard to keep off your mind?
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>>97550208
Blake's Bad Dragon.
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>>97550465
I tried it for this purpose before starting on my own game. Blkout is very cool but there’s not even a hint of BattleTech.
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>>97550454
AS?
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>>97550208
blakes cool snake
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Just play Battletroops.
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>>97550543
>AS?
Amaris Sdidnothinbwrong
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>>97550592
No it sucks
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>>97550208
Blake's Drakes?
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The Half Blaked Rakes
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>>97550502
Keep what off my mind?

>>97550592
Someday I'll use one of these
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>>97550634
>Someday I'll use one of these
give Hinterlands a try
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>>97550650
That one I've actually used, I more meant the boxes. Picked them up secondhand a while back and just haven't had the game time to learn Troops or Space.
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>>97550673
I was just joshing you hoss
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What other Hot Spots will they make after the Draconis Reach? The Hinterlands was a big hit and they must want to do more
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>>97550650
Hinterlands is enjoyable, looking forward to the next hot spots in a few months.
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>>97550696
Probably some shenanigans in a post-Dao Shen Confederation.
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>>97550696
It seems that like the Aces boxes they'll be theming them on the lore books. Hinterlands and Scouring Sands are themed on Tamar Rising, Draconis Reach and Snowblind are themed on Dominions Divided. Presumably we'll get an Aces box and Hot Spot each themed on Empire Alone and ilKhan's Eyes Only.

I really hope the Empire Alone box has the players play Solaris Gladiators rebelling against the Wolf leadership
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>>97550634
CityTech. Show the combined arms fags how infantry actually work. I dare you.
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>>97550696
Hot Spots deep periphery. Banjo pickin mandatory. No already described worlds or nations used. Completely new dysfunctional star nations. Terrible tech used because there are no other options.
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>>97550208
Jerome's Dragon
or
Jerome's Own
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>>97550696
Hot Spots: Former Republic and Hot Spots: Marian Hegemony according to the Mercs primer
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>>97548824
Fucking honestly. One of my buddies runs one every time he can, and it always eats punishment and keeps on ticking. The two times I bring one? TAC'd to death or an unlucky ammo explosion and its gone.
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>>97550854
What the heck is the “Jerome Zone” I’ve been looking everywhere and can’t find it
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Lmao. The normal doesnt know about the hyperspatial fortress. No one tell him!
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>>97550336
>Blackfire as a Blakist
Somehow it does fit.
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Comstar is better left as a phone company with a private army, downplay or outright disregard the religious zealotry angle.
This isn't D&D or 40K we don't need clerics, paladins or warrior-monks, we only need big stompy robots.
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>>97546900
I like this pixel art, and whits are def under loved, I want them in MW5/0.
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I wonder if the whole IS will fracture at some point. Could use a major shakeup like that.
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>>97550752
I'm pretty sure they said the Empire Alone one is the Andurien invasion of the CC. I don't remember if they said which side is the opfor.
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>>97551208
Could use every last clanner dying first.
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>>97551211
It's Andurien player vs Cappie enemy. Can't have them putting FWL mechs in a box, that would just be silly.
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>>97551059
>clerics, paladins or warrior-monks, we only need big stompy robots.
My warrior-monk cleric in a big stompy robot says fuck you >:(
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>>97551279
Not even a bit or a joke, this is legit the first No-Dachi I've ever seen painted lmfao
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>>97551279
Please, I'd break your mall katana over my knee, boy.
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>>97551059
There are actually a lot of clerics, paladins, and warrior-monks in the stompy robots. The knights and templars of St. Cameron, Brotherhood of Randis, that one pope, the warrior houses...
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>https://archive.org/details/rpgdragon-issue-02
Another Japanese magazine issue
>Had to look up who 'Iwan Matkinon' is
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ISF agent gf who is totally not farming intel on your Davion unit from you in between dinners and hot wmaf sex
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>>97549147
Back in September they said there’d be one more run of TW and BMM this year, given that it’s Catalyst I’d be very shocked if the new rules were available Gencon
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>>97551481
Fun stuff. Never seen a mech leave a component entirely unarmored before. Maybe I'm missing it, but I couldn't see a movement profile for these new mechs, just how many JJs they have.
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>>97551527
Great paint job but my word that is a queer looking mech.
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>>97551548
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>>97551548
I don't know where the STL came from but it's still the best No-Dachi I've seen.
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>>97551582

Unfortunately that is probably true.
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>>97551527
So it seems
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>>97551536

Are these new designs or just japanese names for existing ones? Because I'm suspicious that the Bomb-Fortress might just be their name for the Bombardier.
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>>97551591
Damn that's dope. While >>97551527 has amazing paint work too. I like the lay out and pose you have more.

The Dragon is honored.
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>>97551601
This is, as always, a Drac thread.
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>>97551599
They look to be new designs, the text in the bottom right cites a designer. Here's a google TL of the second two.
For the Bombfortress specifically, it's the wrong tonnage to be a bombardier variant.
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>>97551536
>30 t
>6 jj
>10 sl

Now that's a party.
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Fucking hell MekHQ 50.11 is the most autistic shit I've ever seen, and I used to play Dorf Fort. It is glorious. *FIDGETS AND SPINS*
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>>97550232
Weirdly enough, all of Map Campaign Anons stuff works a lot better for Alpha Strike than it does Classic
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>>97551601
>amazing paintwork
Fuck man, the battletech bar is low but even here that's mediocre.
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>>97551614
Also the wrong loadout, although it's definitely within reach of a Bombardier.
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>>97551527
Yee, and I can't emphasize this enough, haw
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>>97551650
cringe
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>>97551650
Nooses are cheap, anon.
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>>97551527
That mech looks like he is supposed to be C claming an AR but it got replaced by a Katana.
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>>97551667
>Local man has no sense of humor or fun.
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>>97551599
Custom designs from the magazine readers I presume
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Perfect Dragon's Fury Lance tbhon. Tempted.
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>>97551707
I FORGOT ME PIC NOOOO T_T
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>>97551612
the avatar is super underloved. Nice work tho anon.
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I wonder what they were thinking with putting all that ammo into Crusader's CT? Like I get putting most of the weapons on the arms since that's how the Macross or whatever design more or less looked originally but that bomb is bizarre. Was there a time before through armor criticals when having ammo in CT was the safest spot for it?
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>>97551707
>>97551715
They'd look sweet in DFury colors
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>>97551741
There was a time before engine heat sinks where a lot of side torso bombs were actually very well padded. But I'm pretty sure TACs have been around since the beginning.
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>>97551741
It is the most heavily armored location, in universe it makes sense. Mechs tend to not be designed around rules peculiarities like TACs only happening to the CT.
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>>97551715
>Bunch of Stoner fucks
>True Dragon machines
Ha! Haha! LMAO, even! No, seriously, even in clicktech, they were actual DC machines.

Get yourself a Phoenix Spider, a Blade, a Thor and a random ass old shit Panther.
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>>97551715
It would have been perfect if it had the Nodachi instead of the Dragon.
CGL must know that the Nodachi is in high demand, right? Wonder what's holding them back
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Plastic Protomechs when?
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>"The Cows deserved it."
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>>97551762
It will get a box full of trash so you end up paying 40 bucks just for the No Dachi.
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>>97551678
Humour is ephemeral, temporary.
When you turn your models into a joke, the only thing being laughed at is you.
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>>97551787
After literally everything else. Thats the most niche unit in the game. Like I know they are useful for clannoids to get some init at not obscene prices. So I get them being wanted. But like good luck.
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Periphery packs when?
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>>97551802
I've a fuckton of 'em from Ral Partha for my WoB and kinda want to get some of the Society's Protos since I plan to do a Society force at some point, but I'd kill to have them in plastic. I seem to be the only one who loves these guys lol
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>>97551650
Jesus fuck. Anyway, how do you write that small? I can't pull it off with my smallest brush
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>>97551815
Thats pretty cool if those are yours. Reminds of those sick ass dioramas from gencon. I swear there was one fighting over a giant trapezoidal pyramid deal? Real blade runner vibes.
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>>97551787
The fact that there isn't an Erinyes made by anyone is a crime.
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>>97551840
Aye those are mine :) I've a fairly large amount of Battle Armour and Protomechs alongside my WoB mechs. I love the combined arms aspect of Alpha Strike since those rules make it pretty fun to bring non-mechs and Protos are fun af to use in Classic. Plus I love the fact the Domini are the only non-Clan force to have even a small amount of Protos so I really leaned into that.
I've also a large Militia force but haven't added to it in a while as I'm focusing on expanding the 52nd side of my army right now with an all WoB-mech design lance, plus Manei Domini Demon series BA and Bolla tanks.
Planning to add loads of BA and vehicles to my Militia once I'm done with this. Not sure what yet, besides Longinus and Purifier BA and Gladius tanks.
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>>97551827
A very small brush, small movements, and a lot of practice. I tried doing the sign about six times before attempting it for real.
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>>97551827
nta, but I would literally just use a pen of some kind, or a thin sculpting tool.
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>>97551614

The Justice is actually a pretty good loadout for a 60 tonner from the 3025 era. PPC, LL, four ML's and 18 heat sinks. So basically you fire both the LL and PPC's at range, and then when you get in close, under the PPC's minimum range you switch to the Medium Lasers.
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>dumps missiles on u
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>>97551762

I dunno, shoving in a Dragon where nobody, literally nobody, wants it is very much a Draconis Combine thing. Personally, I'd have liked a Hatamoto variant or a Charger.
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Anyone have any experience with MekHQ 50.11 know why quirks aren't showing up on my mechs? Have them enabled in campaign options.
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Wonder if gold cockpit glass on blue armor will look good. has anyone tried?
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>>97551918
I'm actually surprised it isn't a Hata, they have a new sculpt that IWM used for the Hatamoto-Suna. Maybe with the Shiro and Rokurokubi being dark age/ilclan mechs they felt it would be too far future coded with a late dark age Hatamoto-X variant. Although it's not like the Akuma is evergreen either, the only thing a forever '39 player can use here is the Grand Dragon
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>>97551952
Also, it's really cool that all the different Hatamotos actually change the mech name.
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>>97551962
I really hate them making every new snake mech a totem mech. Like a few is ok, but jesus fuck calm it down.
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So are the Erandi the closest to playing SLDF or a force upholding their ideals in the Succession Wars and beyond without the Clan weirdness?
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>>97551930
Quirks are usually listed in the TRO box to the right side, aren't they?
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>>97551972
Eridani*
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>>97551762
>>97551791
My suspicion is nobody at CGL particularly loves the No-Dachi, so it just doesn't end up on their lists. We know the Argus got a plastic mini basically because Shimmy likes Mechwarrior 4
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>>97551973
Yeah. No quirks over there either.
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>>97551976
>>97551972
Yes, if you want to play SLDF in the succession wars, that's what the ELH are for.
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>>97551972
I would think the ComGuards are. They arnt organized the same, but they do fight in a combined arms total war mindset. You still get weirdness. Its just techno religion instead of whatever you call clanners. Warrior society with a caste system and eugenicist ideology?
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>>97551989
>My suspicion is nobody at CGL particularly loves the No-Dachi
CGL are no games confirmed.
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>>97552001
>combined arms total war mindset
This is not a SLDF feature
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>>97551972
There are lots of other mercenaries who were originally SLDF, but I don't know that many of them actually hold up the ideals. Fighting Urukhai, 15th Dracon, Tau Ceti Lancers, some of the Illician Lancers (although they are another one of those knightly orders overall), a bunch of others. Lots of them end up becoming house units, but lots of the SLDF did that anyway without the in-between mercenary step.
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>>97551798
My buddy wanted cowboy mechs for his birthday, so I obliged. If that offends your 400IQ gigabrained sensibilities about the grim darkness of 3152, you should actually play the game and read the books instead of shitposting on an Mongolian basket weaving forum.
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>>97551994
Like, right at the bottom of the box? Check if you've got quirks enabled otherwise I don't know what you've borked
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>>97552040
The Cappellan is the only one who bothered to paint his mechs? Xin sheng Mr. Bond.
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>>97552040
>doxxing his friend for his birthday

You're a good friend, Arthur.
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>>97552048
They show up when I click Edit Quirks so maybe just a display error. Definitely enabled.
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I'm reading TRO 3026 looking at the infantry equipment. I read the Man pack ppc description. It says it has a burst setting. I was today years old when I learned PPCs could be set to full retard. Where is the selector switch in my MAD-3R?
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>>97552040
>friendgroup masks up
Yeah, you're all cringe
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>>97552040
I liked the big iron blitz
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>>97552101
Only if it's due to Covid. Based if you do it to hide your autistically weird facial expressions.
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>>97552053
As always, the Celestial Wisdom provides an example for all to follow.

>>97552055
Thanks Dutch.
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>>97551807
absolutely
>dezgra
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How workable is schizo who believes in a lizard people conspiracy forms a resistance movement to fight the reptilian menace as the leader of a "pirate" band. Is it belieable to have found an old facility with a working or repairable HPG so I can operate a resistance radio program to inform the masses?
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>>97552140
If you care that much about what others think, you're cringe.
If you play with people that catty, you're cringe for accepting it.
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>>97552190
HPG is a point to point transmission method, so that part won't work, but in a single solar system radio broadcasts can reach the whole system. You could have him show up in a system and anmounce his presence with a powerful anti-lizard broadcast.

What if you make it bird people instead, so people think Tetatae, but his bird people do not resemble the Tetatae at all?
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>>97552237
Hmm. I could add in birds arnt real they are surveillance drones for our would be masters. I admit that has an appeal. I can live with radio broadcasts. Kind of a heres why Iam doing what I am doing. This is all in service to the rebellion against our avian overlords. Although tetae arnt real and no one knows what they are. So I'm not sure why that would be a thing. I am pretty sure that got retconned away?
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>>97552269
Oh I meant out of universe, other Battletech fans would think Tetatae
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>>97552279
Fair enough.
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>>97552269
They actually haven't been retconned, but it's official True Canon™ that they are utterly unreachable by anything but a gross misjump with perfect, but unpredictable, factors that nobody in the setting even knows to look for because it just looks like a regular misjump and then nobody ever sees that ship again.
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>>97552269
Wait... you think the birds are really real for real-real? Have you never notice how they all recharge on power lines?
NGMI.
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>>97552269
There are other aliens in the setting that most in-universe characters don't even think about. Multiple species of cave dwelling man-apes.
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trying to roll for my Schizos budget.
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>>97551807
I wouldn't mind seeing a House Arano one in 2028 for the tenth anniversary of the vidya, maybe with the Bullshark, Umbra Shadowhawk and Hatchetman 3X but I doubt they would since CGL doesn't want to get mixed up in more copyright stuff with third parties.
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>>97552359
Well I dont know how to roll here. You will just have to trust I rolled a 6 on my 3d6. Which means I have 40 million C-bills. I have selected my good man Alex Jones to hail from the Lyran Commonwealth in the Ilclam era. so I will asume an era modifier of 1.0. A faction modifier of 1.20 for hailing from a great house. An additional 1.20 for the LC being a money bags realm. So 40 mil to 48 mil to 57.6 mil.
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>>97551650
>a good look
Baste Sturgill enjoyer. I unironically think they should have him on the soundtrack if there's ever a proper Battletech movie.
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What book had the tables for generating random lance compositions intops?
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>>97552398
Well, what will you do with the budget my good sir? I hope you make the appropriately paranoid choices. If not I shall judge you most harshly.
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>>97552410
Generating the outline of the lance with things like weight classes is in total warfare, actually filling it out is in the RATs, which are in all sorts of sourcebooks.
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>>97552391
CGL is incompetent but I would be extremely surprised if they wrote the contracts in such a way that the characters, places and vehicles invented for the game did not revert to them.
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>>97552094
Why has no one invented pulse PPCs yet?
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>>97552398
I rolled a d4 for lance weight and got a 1 for light. I rolled a 5 for lance comp so thats 3 lights and a medium.

>>97552415
>Well, what will you do with the budget my good sir?
Nothing good thats for sure.

>>97552429
Thank you. The TW stuff was what I wanted.
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>>97552442
Mr. Jones will drive a RVN-3X with its EW equipment replaced 1/1 with communications equipment so the truth can be broadcast non stop.

RVN-3X 3,597,525
WLF-3S 7,836,419
NX-80 5,698,225
UZL-2S 10,046,250

Thats 30.4 mil left over. Not sure what happens. If that goes poof or becomes operating capital. By GM fiat they get a Leopard and an Invader. I would welcome suggestions for Mr. Jones's lance mates.
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>>97552524
>fingernails
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>>97551788
real and true
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>>97552541
Agreed, but so is the equipment it's using.
The only instrument an Atlas uses is an accordion.
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>>97552524
It becomes operating capital. What are your criterion for lance mate suggestions?
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>>97552579
The criteria are that its someone that would believably sign up with a unit commander waging a war against a sphere wide cabal of shapeshifting avians. They dont have to buy into the crazy if there is something else they can get out of this.
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>>97552432
Where are my rotary ppcs?
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>>97552640
60% salvage. Not bad. D rated enemy meh salvage. Elite rated enemy. Nigga what are you doing?
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>>97551902
Its just a Black Knight but they dumped a large laser and put the PPC there.
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>>97551715
Goodness Gracious that akuma is ugly
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>>97552657
>Elite rated enemy
It'll be fine. This is just my first time playing MMHQ in years and I barely have any idea what is going on anymore. What could possibly go wrong?
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>>97552524
>I would welcome suggestions for Mr. Jones's lance mates.
Mr. Johnson. A nondescript warrior who doesn't stand out in any way. He seems to have a particular knack for finding patrons willing to pony up cash to fund the revolution. Including putting Mr. Jones in touch with the Invaders Capt. Mr. Johnson is in no way a Loki operative. And is absolutely not Mr. Jones's "handler".
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>>97552667
The Akuma is just an ugly mech even the cool minis are ugly
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>>97552667
Whenever I see an Akuma, I think of Sweet Tooth.
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>>97552670
>What could possibly go wrong?
Deep Raid. Your objective is to destroy an isolated enemy dropship before it lifts off. As this is deep behind enemy lines we will not be able to do any salvage. Enemy forces consist of 8 ASF with all the bombs and a shit ton of mechs. Good luck commander we know you can do it!
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>>97552684
Lol you think Jones would fall for that? Naw, if they were gonna get someone to handle him he's gotta be waaaay more outlandish. Refuge in audacity and all that.
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>>97552711
Well you design his handler then big guy.
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>>97551059
Space Religious extremists are fun though.
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>>97551059
Truth Nuke
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>>97552190
Like >>97552311 and >>97552346 said none of the alien species and bird people was retconned but they're rudimentary and very rare events.
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>>97553049
The man-apes are actually relatively common. Depending on the world, the various species of neopithecanthropus are either left alone under distant scientific observation, or mostly not considered, like that one cappie world where they are basically at war because the government keeps using the caves for materiel storage and the caveman ape-things keep beating Capellan soldiers to death when they catch them out in isolated tunnels.
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>>97553084
Yeah, I mean, isn't like your average people deal with them unless they go specifically such places.
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>>97552134
Me too anon. He's my favorite, so he got the road sign.
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space colonies are not a thing in bt?
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*soundbite of howling wolves plays* This is howling mad murphy coming at you live from the mechbay of the Visible Truth. Me and my bothers in arms are hotdropping on a avian black site near you! Please stay indoors! No innocents will be hurt, only the wicked minions of the Illuminati need fear our wrath. Just remember to take some simple precautions to keep yourselves safe. Filter all your water with Howlin Mad brand water filters! Only my proprietary technology can filter the psychotropic drugs out of your drinking water to protect your minds from outsider influence! Conveniently available at all Sea Fox marts near you! Do NOT talk about any sensitive information around birds! Not songbirds, not poultry, and especially not flamingos! All birds ARE drones and record EVERYTHING you say for the use of the Illuminati! Just remember kindly Saint Katrina Steiner-Davion and her selfless sacrifice. She died for the sin of breaking the Federated Commonwealth FREE of outsider corruption. She risked it ALL for you! Mad Murphy signing off.
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>>97553195
Yes, there's many planets and places unknown in the universe yet but they're not part of the main story
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>>97553195
They are. Look up places like Corsica Nueva and Gulf Breeze. Battletech is a weird and crazy place. But guess what? The most important planets you see all the time are the rare garden worlds that become super important political hubs over the centuries. You need to follow some merc goobers or invaders or pirates to wind up at places like the world with sulfur rain plants and cities of soft plastic domes.
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Reminder that Hesperus II is a complete shitheap of a world with 1 big domed city to serve the great factories under the mountains.
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>>97553201
This is more of what I need. I miss this sort of stuff from the Jihad era books.
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>>97551481
>>97551536
>>97551614
>>97547354
International battletech got a lot of crazy stuff back in the 90'
>Spain magazine issue from 1992 with mini campaign to fight against "Godzilla", an unknown new alien animal, before the Megasaur and Branth in 1995
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>>97553357
Part 2 and context
>Kurita jumpship with damaged mechs it's forced to land in some unknown planet and face the consequences
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>>97552151
>Not knowing the Stargate reference
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>>97552040
>2025
>wearing the faggot gimp mask

wow. that's one libtard that needs an ethnic cleansing from the gene pool.
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>>97553463
I hope your children die from preventable diseases so the only people there when you die are the Somalian nurses who change your bedpan.
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>>97553476
cry more. normal people do these things called 'eating foods with vitamin C and D etc in them so they don't catch cold' instead of
>takes a billion drugs so his immune system is permanently compromised and held together only by big pharma assfucking.

congratulations on your slavery to the pill maker.

also, normal people's kids know to do this thing called 'hygiene'. Not that a fucking dirty smel commie fuck like you would know anything about that.
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>>97553476
But subhuman 70-IQ Somalies will only be used for spare parts to save Make-a-Wish kids at that point...
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What are some common/iconic Late Succ War Lyran heavy mechs? Other than the Thud
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>>97552658

They also put none of the guns in the arms so he can double-fist things after shooting as well.
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>>97553700
banshee. they took a massive bunch back to the factory and made the 3s after all. I would say that BNC 3S is actually even more lyran totemic than the fatlus lance 'steiner scouts' meme.

and the zoose. lyrans LOVE their mufuggen zoose. and 3025 is also got the ppc variant.
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I can use two augmented lances for my merc company right?
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>>97553774
depends. the latest iteration of campaign play gives a points limit. you spend it on whatever you want.

there's the AS version from scouring sands (aces). and there's the chaos campaign? rules? you could have quite a lot of mechs, but you'd probably be using mediums and lights in that case to get so many, under the points limits.
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>>97553794
What's the points limit? And what could i run with 2 squads of battle armor on one lance and 2 HPPC Manticores on the other?
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>>97553813
scourings sands it looks like (pg. 26) you get 240 PV, with 450 SP for battlefield support?

i can't remember where the chaos campaign rules are for their points limit.
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>>97553827
Thanks for the help man
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>>97553286

Not that anon, but I think the question in >>97553195 meant that are there Standord Torus-type or O-Neill Cylinder-type artificial settlements in this franchise?
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>>97553863

Meant "Stanford Torus-type"
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>>97551481
Nice.
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>>97553195
My understanding is that there were a lot of places like that during the Star League era, but after it went to shit they all eventually broke down and were decommissioned / abandoned / suffered catastrophic failure. Sol System probably still has some running, plus there are Belters there too, as a footnote.
Space is pretty unfriendly place to live in and it takes a lot of resources and knowledge to keep these places running at all, and inner sphere was low on both for hundreds of years.
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>>97553863
I swear there is a short story or something about one of those getting invaded. I don't think it had a happy ending.
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>>97553700
Almost uniquely in 3025 they have active production of the good SLDF heavies like the Warhammer, Marauder and Archer, plus Crusader production on Tharkad. Of course the Zeus is in all practical ways a heavy.
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>>97553700
Flashman. They are producing "downgrades" of that are best described as a sidegrade of the original.
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>>97553700
flashman
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The 3039 retcons and their consequences have been disastrous to the setting. You can't change my mind
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>>97554004
>More than five non unicorn mechs in a single weight class? Ahhh, help me Italian copyright trolls, I'm going insane.
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>>97554004
>The Clans
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>>97554004
3039 doesn't really retcon anything as the retcons it references were much earlier not aided by the fact they jumped straight to Clan Invasion before filling out what happened during the War of 3039.
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>>97554024
The blurbs in TRO:3039 (published 2009) continue the work of TRO:3025 revised (published 1996) in establishing succession wars era production of downgraded stuff that originally appeared in TRO:2750 (1989).

Defiance making Flashman 7Ks is from 1996
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>>97553760
Because its a black knight that had the ppc moved to a large laser slot
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>>97553700
Crusader, Thud 5SS which is one of the best 3025 heavies, Flashbulb as people said
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>>97554057
Thank you for being so precise. I can now levy my complaint accurately in the future.
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>>97554100
The real fault is with FASA for filling TRO 3025 with shitty retcons
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>>97554108
I wouldn't be mad if all the novels and campaign sourcebooks had been revised to reflect the new reality. But they weren't. There's some edge cases too. I think the Cronus has a variant that's supposed to exist in the succ wars too? The backfilling of mech variants is just so cursed.
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I know Gray's Ghosts had an Enforcer and a Valkyrie. Is there any other canon mechs they used? I want to bring 'em with my WoB as they worked for them as fucked up mercs.
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>>97554100
Fasa made this crap though, Fanpro and Catalyst tried to give sense
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>>97554128
You're the lad who plays 52nd right? You'll want to use Martian Cuirassiers if you're adding mercs in. They worked closely with the WoB until the mid 3070s, when they were destroyed.
They were actually wiped out by the the 52nd due to them refusing orders, but they'd worked together before then so if you want mercs who have worked with you're guys that's the better choice.
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Gay Ghosts
Word of Blacked
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>>97554122
Cronus isn't particularly offensive, as the SW-era variant is not supposed to be a completely new mech, but a refit made by a small FWL-based company using salvaged Griffins or Shadow Hawks with some components replaced. It would have been too small-scale to be worth including in TRO3025, except maybe as a mention along with other variants or custom refits of those mechs.
The Cronus that actually gets a TRO mention is from the time technological recovery has allowed the company to build an actual production line and make new Cronuses out of scratch, instead of rebuilding damaged Shadow Hawks in a garage.
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>>97554250
Cronus really should have been built out of devouring smaller mechs.
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When playing against a Clanner, would you rather face a Star with a reinforced lance, or just do one Lance vs a reduced/batchall'd Clan force? TW rules.
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>>97554441
You balance off BV because as already proven here a Timber Wolf can solo an IS lance. Equal numbers works in the clanners favor.
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>>97554458
I swear to god I can kill that fucking MadCat.
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>>97554458
>a Timber Wolf can solo an IS lance.
Bullshit. It automatically loses initiative every round to 3 other Mechs. They'll just surround it and kick it to death. Ignoring dice luck, having more units is always better than having high quality units. Do you even play the game?
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Other than the Cronus, any other mechs whose cockpit-heads are located on the left side of the mech's body (since we have mechs like the Thunderbolt and Hollander who have their respective cockpit-heads on the right side of their bodies)?
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>>97553863
Gulf Breeze stations are torus type.
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>>97554499
Phoenix model Thuds (3060+) swap the head location to the left.
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I was reading through Handbook Periphery as one does when I came across the rim collective. Aside from it bordering the LC I wasnt too interested. Until I read the tiny blurb about them incorporating Hunter's Paradise into their little nation. Apparently in ilkhan area it gets folded into the Timbuktu something or other. Was that the place Brewer ended up in?
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You know all that stuff they say about the life expectancy of the lower clan castes? Its all bull shit man. Totally fabricated. Their tech is way to good for that. No. The real shit is that the warriors are ritual cannibals. Those statistics exist solely to cover up all the people those freaks eat. Crazy right?
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>>97554499
Grasshopper (kind of), Atlas (kind of), and Summoner come to mind
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>>97554596

Isn't Summoner/Thor also on the right side since it was based on the Thunderbolt in the first place?
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>>97554656
>>97554521

>Gulf Breeze stations are torus type

Can a mech even enter an artificial space colony? Not only that, would a fusion reactor detonation from a mech being destroy generate a hole like in the very first episode of the original Mobile Suit Gundam?
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>>97554663
>Can a mech even enter an artificial space colony?
Of course!
Not only that, would a fusion reactor detonation from a mech being destroy generate a hole like in the very first episode of the original Mobile Suit Gundam?
Tell me. What BAR rating do you think a space station hull is? What would even a PPC hit due to it? Would it need a breach check?
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>>97554663
>>97554711
Plus isn't Stackpolling a rarity?
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>>97554717
Its happens as often as plot demands it. Or on a 10+ with 2d6 if a mech takes three engine crits in one phase? I'm not sure though. Its been a while since I read the rule.
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>>97554711
The majority of space stations with stats have standard-grade aerospace armor with a few having the more advanced kinds of aerospace armor
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>>97554463
This really. Clanners often spout bold words for someone who is going to be in dick kicking distance within a few turns.
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>>97554717
>>97554743
>>97554711
BT fusion reactors can not explode. That's why a specific fantasy terminology for the process exists.
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>>97555162
Neat AU you have.
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>>97555162
If the Stackpole says something can happen then clearly it must be able happen despite all logic and reason clearly stating it can't.
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>>97555162
Stackpole gets very defensive when you bring it up, saying he never claimed it was the engine itself that explodes and smart people know what he means.
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>>97555203
When I met him at Adepticon 24 a friend brought this up and he didn't get defensive. He chuckled and said "back when I was writing those we didn't get any guidelines on what happened when a mech got destroyed, I just figured a reactor like that might blow up and no one told me otherwise"
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Just imagine if it was Pardoe who invented it. His buttblast would be seen from orbit.
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To be fair sci-fi has a long history of detonating fusion reactors and fusion batteries.
Even in Aliens they claim they evaporate the colony by overheating the fusion reactor of the atmospheric processor.
And so the colony being intact in Colonial Marines video game might either be seen as a plot hole, or as a correct representation of what would happen if the fusion reactor failed.
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>>97555248
Then he is much nicer in person than on social media.
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>>97555270
Nowadays BT says it's not literally a fusion explosion, but more of a catastrophic steam pressure explosion around the fusion part.
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>>97555276
A lot of people are. Social media is like driving, you're a lot more willing to be a jerk when you aren't looking someone in the eye.
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>>97555276
Well, there's a difference between talk in real life and post behind a monitor.
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>>97555276
Many such cases
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>>97555279

That would make sense. Chernobyl wasn't a nuclear explosion. It was a big fuckoff steam explosion of the coolant system. Things that contain/release lots of energy for useful purposes can sometimes release energy in a catastrophic uncontrolled manner during a failure state.
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>>97555162
Technically it's not the reactor itself exploding, but the reactor shielding cracking and causing superheated plasma to come into contact with far cold air, which on most planets with breathable atmosphere will contain at least some amount of moisture. That results in a steam explosion that tears the entire reactor apart.
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>>97555162
Don’t care, I like the pretty blue explosion.
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>>97555546
Cows are exclusively female, faggot.
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>>97551059
Look at this secondary that doesn't know about Fochstar, or Clan Sea Fox taking over from Comstar in later eras.
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There's a story in TechManual that explains why fusion engines don't explode. However, TacOps has optional rules that allow it because it is so prevalent in lore and vidya.
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>>97555792
>in later eras.
I do not concern myself with the fanfiction of faggots and thieves.
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I always figured cracking the fusion engine's casing made it impossible to keep the constant pressure needed to maintain the fusion, causing the whole thing to collapse and create an equal opposite reaction because it was still running, or something along those lines i don't know how 30th/31st century fusion engines work
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>>97555860
Or maybe shards of shrapnel get into it and causes a mini supernova effect i don't know
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>>97555792
>Clan Sea Fox taking over from Comstar

This is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit of ilClan. Clans have never had the populace to staff something the level of Comstar which is billions and billions of people. You read something like Hunters of the Deep and the clan is so small, most of them can literally ship around in their Amiag fleets. Settlements on worlds are like one or two big cities. It doesn't matter how much money they have or plot armor. They do not have the bodies for the job.

Now, the way to handle this would be to have the lower functionaries still be Robes with an "under new management" sticker taped on like the Stoners did when they nationalized the HPG's. Then you could get a badass storyline much like Fochstar being 1/4-1/2 Blakists where the Robes are just paying lipservice to the clanners but secretly rebuilding and siphoning funds.

But, CGL is too fucking retarded to do any of that.
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>>97555882
>But, CGL is too fucking retarded
Right, so why even acknowledge what they do?
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>>97555947
Because Battletech is the last western franchise I haven't given up on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuCWXGFteTw
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I'm glad that Comstar and Word of Blake are dead, they should have left the story since long time ago.
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>>97555970
this

we need more clans too
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>>97555970
I feel the same way about the clans, but more so, because I am right.
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>>97555970
I hope clans die next, it's long overdo.
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>>97555964
Ignoring the perversions inflicted on it by the current licensee is not the same as "giving up on it"
Rather it is the opposite, subscribing to their changes implies a lack of faith in the core canon material, a need or desire on your part to see alterations made.
Battletech as FASA made it needs no expansions or alterations, it was right just the way it was, so why not ignore the insults inflicted on it by the financial games of suits and shareholders?
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new thread?
new thread!

>>97555988
>>97555988
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>"fuck the clanners"
Okay
>fucks elemental gf
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>>97555978
no. you cant have more clans until you finish the ones on your plate first.
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>>97555982
Because I was there when the ancient magic was written. I know the truth. They are all the same people writing. It has always been that way. Names change as Weisman chases his get rich quick schemes, or we need funding from the Germans to keep from closing down, but the writers and directors have pulled from the same pool since the beginning. FASA when it closed became Fanpro America become Catalyst Game Labs. It's a clear line through. Only the names on the sign have changed. Wizkids and DA was Weisman, himself. It's rather funny, when you think about it.
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>>97556015
>They are all the same people writing.
Incorrect, they are SOME of the same people writing, they are writing under licensing constraints, under a different owner (not topps but coleman) and they are writing to appeal to modern politics of the moment, they are doing so without the involvement of certain members of the original team and with explicit sanction against some of those members (Pardoe for example).
CGL is not FASA, I reject the assertion and look down on those who make it.
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>>97554463
>>97554846
This was already proven, in this general, multiple times. Retards like you doubting it have also been disproven multiple times, in this general.
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>>97554846
A timber wolf can backpedal as fast as most IS SW heavies can run forward.
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>>97556379
>>97557076
Unless you are playing on a completely flat 30+ hex map I am going to call bullshit on this.
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>>97555162
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>>97557108
Good thing the booru is in the OP for you to look through :)



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