Previous: >>97545540Seething Edition>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ:What's an Commander topic that you'll see others argue to the death over, that you personally just do not give a fuck about?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>tqthe unbanning of primeval titan
>>97550801>TQLiterally anything that is doomposting or hyperbolic.Also if you say the word "slop" you are an idiot whose post I will ignore.
Does anyone here work for WotC or know anyone who does? How hard is it to get a job there? I'm afraid I won't be able to hide my based power level.
>>97550801>TQAnything that pertains to CEDH.
>>97551017My father works for wotc. You have to show MaRo your cut dick, if he's impressed you get a job
>>97551017Impossible; they practice descrimination based hiring, and only those chosen by abstract nonsense can get a job there.>t. perfectly qualified anon who wasnt even rejected, just flat out ignored
>>97551082So you actually applied for a job there? Any details to share? Getting ignored by a large company that probably gets dozens of applications from domesticated manchilrdren isn't really anything new or special.
>>97551017You post on 4chan. You won't be able to hide your contempt for their troonery working there and will be fired a week into it.
>>97550801>What's an Commander topic that you'll see others argue to the death over, that you personally just do not give a fuck about?Nothing. If there is a debate about the hobby I enjoy, I have an opinion on it. Only a moron thinks he's smarter than other people for lacking interest.
>>97550801>faggot put the link to the furry porn site back in the OP after getting deleted for it last time
>>97551217Call me king of dumbfuck mountain then
>>97551105yes
I'm at my lgs right now. It was my birthday yesterday. My parents forgot.I'm 33, married but childless (working on it). Going back to school right now (undergrad classes), applying to grad school in the summer.Post your comfiest cards.
>>97551331
>>97551345>I'm 33, married but childless (working on it). Going back to school right now (undergrad classes),It is already too late for you.
>>9755134535 will be 36 next month. Divorced, have a son. On disability from an injury I got working at walmart. Was on a ladder putting seasonal shit above the aisle in the soda section. Some fat cunt on a freedom cart asked me if I could move so she could get her mountain dew. Asked to her wait a moment. She decided that was a bridge too far, backed up, then rammed my ladder. I fell, landered on her freedom card, fractured my spine. Sued, got a settlement from her insurance, have very poor mobility still and that was 12 years agoFun stuff.
>>97551414how much did you settle for, walmartwagie?
>>97551474Whatever is was, it wasn't enough.
>>97551474Just shy of 280k. >>97551493That is correct.
>>97551345Inspiring. Actually, unironically.>33, turning 34 by the end of the month>3 degrees and a cert>getting married in june>got fired from a small town hell job for no money without a reason two weeks after getting a raise in january (actually no reason, actively hurts their business)>they still havent submitted my ROE so I can get unemployment>too qualified for shit jobs>not qualified specifically for small town hellLiving the dream.
>>97551017My retard, they're actively trying to replace their staff with AI. Unless you're a hot bpd alphabitch slut you're not getting a job in any creative industry.
>>97550801>tqProxying, because it's a complete nonissue and antiproxyfags are such unhinged autistic pissbabies who are just seething about not being able to pay to win a casual game so even if there was anything to debate (there isn't) there's no point debating it anyways because one side are hyper emotional manchildren trying to police others wallets.
>>97550801>TQPretty much every argument that's happened in this general for the past week. The people here to argue just for the sake of arguing make me not want to discuss anything.
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
>>97551934I'd be fine with it. He dies to Jitte after all.
Eriette or Killian, Decisive Mentor for my curse/negative aura deck? The other one obviously still goes in the 99, but is the inherent goad and card draw on Killian more valuable than the drain on Eriette?
>>97551944People freak the fuck out when Eriette hits 5 drain per turn as if they have minuts left to live. So probably killian, although I am concerned that he does not goad enough for him to always get the attack triggers and most players will just choose not to attack rather than draw you cards, or blow up killian before attacking
>>97551955I'll probably run some number of other goad enablers as well. The idea is that I want to create a sort of group slug WB deck by wielding annoying enchantments while getting to politic with a handful of positive "gift" auras.
>>97551944"Do thing, draw cards" is tempting. I'd say Killian in the command zone Eriette in the 99 since Killian digs more Eriette's burn is really only threatening later in the game.
>>97550801>What's an Commander topic that you'll see others argue to the death over, that you personally just do not give a fuck about?White/Boros persecution complexIt's EDH, it's not that serious, just play what you want
Three friends that mainly play different card games decide to make a custom set.The Magic player designs a card that says "You win the game." and costs 20 mana.The YGO player designs a series of interlocking cards that perform cold fusion when used together and let you FTK.The Pokemon player designs Vivi Ornitier
>>97551825>I need to proxy to compete at a level my wallet won't allow, and I deserve to play outside the bracket 2 kiddy pool.It cuts both ways.The reality is, whether you like it or not, proxying is cheating. There is no debate. End of story.You convince your table you're allowed to cheat against them? Cool. You conned some rubes. Don't change what you are.
>>97552017Is there a moral to this story?
>>97552022Anon, why you gotta be like this, posting an opinion designed to piss people off that one asked for?
>>97551999>White/Boros persecution complexWhat?
I'm not using my real neon foil cavern of souls in my decks. If you think its cheating to run a proxy in place of my 200+ dollar cards you can eat my ass.
>>97552093No one asked you either. I play my real mox diamond and various other expensive cards for fun and with pride, because the only thing more embarassing than having expensive cardboard is being afraid to use it.
>>97552121>You can't give you opinion on a topic, only I can!Kill yourself you insufferable faggot.
>>97552024No. It was a passing thought that honestly wasn't even funny and doesn't make sense. But since this is an anonymous imageboard I felt free to post it anyway.
>>97551017>how hard is it to get a job there?For you probably very hard because you'd have to pass the hiring vibe check and that check is very liberal and west-coast.
>>97552129Sure thing frady balls the retard clown scared of hurting his cardboard.
>>97551965>while getting to politic with a handful of positive "gift" auras.Does not work.There is no such thing as politics in this game, it is a new player's fantasy. Ultimately every player at the table is going to do what is best for them at any given moment. If your "deal" would require them to do something they don't want to do, they just won't do it.I once played a game with Eriette where it could not be more obvious that I was going to be in 3rd place, so I stacked one guy's commander with buffs and said I just wanted revenge on the other guy. The first guy accused me of "king-making", sacked his own fucking commander, brought it back, played out his turn, and killed me. He ended up winning anyway.
>>97552198Counterpoint: The average EDH player is retarded and thus can be convinced to act against their own interests because they're already doing that half the time.
>>97552073If you don't know what I'm talking about then don't worry about it
>>97551999Every hybrid I've ever fucking seen says that the rule change would help monored. As if it matters whether every color is good at the table. As if it isn't within Wizard's power to just print good commander cards in red.They're way worse than white and boros>>97552073Pretty obvious, bucko. He's referring to the idea that white and boros struggle in commander.White because of the retarded self-imposed restriction that white can't have land or card advantage, and boros because aggro is less effective against 3 opponents with 40 life
>>97552198I could convince Lil' Jimmy Durdles to eat his cards without much effort as long as he gets to draw a single card out of the deal.
>>97552211*Every hybridfag
>>97552211Its 2025. Boros can do more than ungabunga aggro
>>97552228Name 5
>>97552263>Lifegain>Burn>Enchantress>Control/stax>AggroThere are five archetypes boros can do. You can think for yourself and fill in the blanks of what commanders can do what.
>>97552278>>EnchantressName even 1 boros enchantress other than that Fallout one.If you name Feather Radiant Arbiter, I will punch you.
>>97552305>Those don't count because, well, they just don't okay!Classic stuff.
>>97552198>Ultimately every player at the table is going to do what is best for them at any given momentCounterpoint: I don't do that at all, I often do whatever I think would be funny or will get the heat off me
>>97552313The Fallout one doesn't count because UB and Feather doesn't work because as someone who has tried building Feather auras, it's fucking unplayable.
>>97552322Redditor detected.
I love seeing mtg articles scream about THIS CRAZY 9001% PRICE SPIKE!!! and the card went from $0.03 to $1
>>97552331Tragically for you, perhaps, no, never had a reddit account in my life, been using /tg/ since around 2012. Not that it matters, even a single person behaving that way, redditor or not, disproves your "everyone plays optimally all the time" thesis.
>>97552344They're just manipulating the market anyway.I throw up in my mouth a little every time I see one of these faggots write something like:>15 YEAR OLD CARD REDEFINES META WITH INFINITE COMBOAnyone writing or posting those articles should be forced to prominently disclose how many copies they happen to have of the card being discussed
>>97552344Where's the lie?
>>97552372Are you patposting...?
>>97551944ghen with both of them and you can run the funnier negative red auras, plus absolute jank like Smoke Spirit's Aid.
>>97552198>If your "deal" would require them to do something they don't want to do, they just won't do itFunny, because I regularly convince the idiots in my playgroup to make suboptimal plays.
>Oh shit Lich's Tomb would be awesome in my Blim deck.>Opponent sacs it to its own effect>mfw
>>97552554>I gas light new players into mistakes>this is a skill that makes me good at the game
>>97552564>newTry players with 8+ years of never learning under their belts. Don't be presumptuous. It makes an ass out of you.
>>97552022Thanks for being a perfect example of what I was talking about.
>Hmm, maybe I'll build a deck with white in it>Path, swords, trouble in pairs, esper, smothering, farewell, tefaris>Oh right, this is why I don't play white, its fucking boring
>>97552646What if you build a cool and fun deck with white instead of a pile of staples?
>>97552659>Cool and fun>WhitePick only one
https://archidekt.com/decks/11397719/fungus_amungusYeah. I think I will pull the trigger on this when the tax man pays me.
>>97552664I usually have a hoot playing my Tajic, Legion's Edge deck.
>>97552578It doesnt matter how long you've been playing if you can be tricked into making the wrong choice. Keeping quiet? No problem. Tricking people? Deceptive.
>>97552721>Tricking people? Deceptive.Perfectly legal.
>>97552729Actually, no. See MTR 4.1 but without a judge in a casual game you cant really do anything about it. It's also poor sportsmanship.
>>97552740It's not deceptive to tell someone that you think X play is better than Y play and then benefiting from it. It's ultimately up to you if you choose to follow a particular line of play. There was no lying involved. I merely suggest a play, sometimes present a reason, and then we continue on with whatever decision is made. There's nothing wrong with chatting about the gamestate and what plays I think would benefit me.
>>97552646my brother in christ YOU MADE THE SANDWICH
>>97551017Try a job with the US government or media instead
>>97552750It is derrived information and in nonREL level events the information is free and available to all players. You are not allowed to ommit it. REL? Gotta track it yourself or ask a judge. You have no obligation to help your opponent win, but what you are describing is illegal, deceptive, unsportsmanlike, and frankly unnecessary given the level of skill required to fall for a trick like that in the first place.If you had have said "well, glad there arent judges" or "I'mma do it anyways", you'd be a dick, but I'd respect your decision. Your answer right there? Perfidious, much like your conduct.
>Hmm, maybe I'll build a deck with no colors in it>Sol Ring, Roaming Throne, The One Ring, War Room, Exotic Orchard, Fellwar Stone, Cavern of Souls>Oh right, this is why I don't play EDH, its fucking boring
>>97552768I'm not omitting anything. I have no obligation to coach my opponent on plays that will be solely valuable to them. I can state what I would like to happen with the public information available to me and the other players are free to make judgments on my statement and use the public and private information available to them to take a chance on a play that I know would be good for, at the very least, myself. You're making assumptions about what I mean when I say "convince." What is wrong with >say I think James's creature is a problem and needs to die>other player looks at his hand and thinks he can spare the removal and create a boardstate advantageous to himself in the process>he spends his removal on what may very well have been a problem creature for everyone else at the table>I play a creature that the other player now has no removal forIt just seems like you're being argumentative for the sake of it. If talking about plays at the table is such a problem, then why ever play with friends? There's no reason to merely state your plays without speaking otherwise.
>>97552768what information is he omitting? "if you do this I'll win instead of you"? if it's stuff like "hey you should doomblade that instead of this," what's being deceptive? I don't usually agree with people in this thread who say stuff like 'you came up with an example in your head and are arguing against it' but that's the only explanation for what's going on here. he did not give a real example, he did not describe misrepresenting his board state or cards in hand or what have you.
>>97552797Reread this answer. Read it again. Then read it a third time. Your intent and awareness of your intent, then the steps your taking to mask your intent is the issue.You can do whatever you want with your friends, but it isnt legal. Dont be confused.>>97552800Optimal play is not obscure, it is obvious and logical based on the information you have. Sometimes the optimal choice backfires if you dont have the private information, shit happens. Providing incorrect information knowingly to someone get an advantage by manipulating derived information isnt legal.
>got some 62% humidity packets for foil uncurling after my FF9 scene box cards came curled to hell>put them and some really badly curled older foils in to decurl first>pull the other ones out as they end up flat>did this nearly a dozen times>running out of semi-modern foils to uncurl>FF9 scene box foils are still unplayableThis fucking sucks.
>>97552815I didn't mask my intent though. My intent in that example was literally >state the truth about wanting a creature removed>player agrees it should be removed>I benefittedIt isn't misrepresenting anything. >Optimal play is not obscure, it is obvious and logical based on the information you haveThat is not always clear to everyone. Some people aren't observant and savvy enough to 100% evaluate the boardstate and available information and select the most correct play every time. I am not providing incorrect information. I am pointing out the very public information you are referencing. I'm not divulging private info. I'm not lying about available info. I'm stating my case and then people are free to act.
>>97552827Did you stick a book on top of them?
>>97552832I pulled out a few of them that seemed to be getting there and stuck them into some tight binders and stacked a bunch more on top. They still ended up as tacos when I checked on them a day later.
>>97552831That's not your intent anon. If people "arent observent and savvy enough to 100% evaluate the boardstate and the information available", manipulating them by misrepresenting the information so you benefit is your intent.Like I said immediately, if you were just being a dick, or were cool with what you were doing it'd be fine. You arent. And that says a lot about the nature of the situation.
>>97552840Nta but I always double sleeves the foil in question and then put it in the middle of an enormous old bible that I own. It works better than I thought it would.
>>97552795Thanks for the update bro, I was wondering what inane thoughts were going through your head at this very moment, now I know!
>>97552856Once again, I didn't misrepresent anything. What about pointing out a creature I want gone is a misrepresentation? I have no obligation, and in fact should, reveal private information such as the contents of my hand. However, I can say things like "that creature is a problem to me, I wish someone would remove it" without any deception.
>>97552856his example didn't have what you're complaining about.you're being a dick, which you should admit, even if I'm not ok with it.what, in your opinion, is an acceptable example of dealmaking with other players? only instances in which you reveal cards from your hand? pinkie promises with frankie peanuts in play?
>Card is so fucking expensive>Turns out, you gave 1000 life>That's just 1 counterWhat a waste of fucking money.
>>97552892+1/+1 on EACH creature you control bud.
>>97552892It's a full anthem. It also combos with a ham sandwich and is a mythic that was only printed a few times.
>>97552892You realize people who runs this are doing small health gain, not massive health gain, right?
>>97552872Wow you sure started changing your tune to try and angleshoot me real quick. What happened to:"Funny, because I regularly convince the idiots in my playgroup to make suboptimal plays." and"Perfectly legal."Anyways, it is immediately apparent you understand what you're doing, plan on continuing to do it, and have no interest in stopping. Not my concern, I'm not here to bicker with you about cheating with your friends, but you might as well start palming cards and doing the ol' mana shuffleroo too while you're at it. And keep in mind what I'm choosing not to say in the sake of keeping the thread productive. So we'll leave it at that.
>>97552905>It also combos with a ham sandwichShut up Lewis.
>POV: you play blue
>>97552915What are you talking about? Everything I said is perfectly legal. What you're not supposed to do is reveal private information. I did not support doing so. I'm not concealing public nor revealing private. I don't get what you think seem to be a change of tune. I've maintained this same position the entire time. It is perfectly legal to say you'd like a creature removed from play. If they choose to remove it after they say that, then how would they be surprised when I benefit?You just keep acting coy about some kind of made up scenario you object to. Why do you want to be upset?
>>97552944got sick of being banned I see.
>>97552278Someone's never gone up against a Koll aristocrats deck.
>>97552984Never been banned Ubitch
>>97552994I have not, but just more prove boros is more flexible than ungabunga aggro
>>97552997This guy lost to a well placed Pongify.
>turn 3 thieving skydiver a guy's seat of the synod>he cuts it after that gamelol
>>97552944The blue player would fuck your girlfriend if you had one
>>97553046>He says, while this is the average fedora tipping Ubitch
>>97553069What a fuckin UNIT Chad
>>97552977Funny how everything instantly turned into an elaborate demonstration about how everything you're doing is technically within the rules and not at all a problem, even though the crux of your position is that the people who listen to you are consistently too stupid to understand you're tricking them into doing something wrong on purpose. Exactly what you're trying to do to me is what you do to your players. If someone chooses to do something stupid, you dont have to stop them, but advocating someone should do something stupid, providing an elaborate justification for why they should do something stupid, and knowing full well it's stupid the entire time is what's going on. You didnt simply. You do support doing so. The tune you changed is shifting from feeling cool about it to being extremely precise with made up hypotheticals I never once acknowledged or engaged in, because they are designed to make you feel like what you're doing is justified, when MY position has been that you know better, it's obvious you know better, you are choosing to do this intentionally, and there is no reason to do so if the people you play with are idiots. If they're idiots winning is trivial and what you're doing is unnecessary. If they arent idiots, you're misleading them on purpose by misrepresenting things. Neither side is particularly great.
>>97552211>Would help monoredLooking through the list there isnt a single hybrid red card on offer that doesnt do what a mono red equivalent already does.Maybe Bloodsoaked Insight, because its effect leans much more into the exile steal of black, but every other decent red hybrid card has a better or on par equivalent in monored
>>97553083Its almost like the hybrid change wouldn't do much at all, and wouldn't "destroy commander as we know it"
>>97553102>No more product will ever be made ever ever ever so its fine guysOkay anon.
>trusting wotc to make any format changing decisions shiggy
>Player 1 is way ahead, need a board wipe>Player 3 laments that he has one, but not enough mana>Tap my radiant lotus to give him 6 mana>Player 1 rages about king making despite it not putting anyone else head, just leveled the board.
>>97553102>destroy commander as we know itWhy is that the threshold?There are no good arguments for changing the rule, and WotC shouldn't fuck with the rules of the format just because they can. It's that simple.
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>>97553156King-making is a faggot complaint for low IQ retards anyway.It's a 4 player game, there is not a game action you can take that does not benefit one opponent more than others, even if that benefit only exists because they're at a particular place in turn rotation or something like that.People who complain about king-making don't understand this and only see it when it is so overt it's impossible to ignore
>>97553161You can't splash blue to have a counterspell which was the entire idea when the color wheel was made. It was understood you could splash to deal with weak parts of your color. The color wheel was never designed with the idea you couldn't splash colors.
>>97553161>Once again the "change is bad!: I hate change!" nonargument.Giving players more options and letting some commanders who are barely played slightly more synergy to allow players more creativity and fun is the reason, and is enough of a reason.Sheldon is dead, you can stop trying to ride his dick any time now.
>>97553164your image still makes no sense like you got told last time.
>>97553175>The color wheel was never designed with the idea you couldn't splash colors.Okay? And Commander was never designed with the idea that you could. If you dislike the rules of the format, wouldn't you be happier playing a different format?>>97553176>Giving players more options1. What options? Which cards are you hoping to run anon? Go ahead and named them.2. WotC controls the printers, they could print you a thousand "options" any time they want without changing the rules of a format they didn't create
>>97553174King-making is definitely a thing, but in actuality its alot more rare than the buzzword its become.It really is a situation where>Player As turn. They have no realistic chance of winning.>Player B and C are in super dominant positions.>If Player A goes right, Player B Wins>If Player A goes Left (or concedes), Player C winsThats king-making. Its where youre so far behind the other players at the table your only remaining input before elimination is nudging percentages to one person or the other.Its rare, but it happens, and its a shitty position to be in as the hot seat, especially if youre llaying against people who get butthurt over that kind of no-win situation
>>97553076>Funny how everything instantly turned intonigga you are the one who started saying that any dealmaking was misrepresenting the boardstate and thus illegal under the rules.
>>97553187That is fine. It's a 4 player game, these things are inevitable.
>>97553176Anon Im going to be honest if you think all this sudden hubbub anout hybrid mana isn't 100% financially motivated by Hasbro to milk this dying cow faster you're retarded.It has nothing to do with the health of this format, its wellbeing, the colorpie and its strengths and weaknesses.Its 100% money-motivated and theyre trying to nudge the question little by little because if they didnt their biggest cash cow would turn tits up over night.You think its a coincidence the push started after Sheldon died and WotC got full control?You think its a coincidence the past three fucking sets have had a heavy hybrid focus with TLA, Lorwyn, and now TMNT?Stop being a consumer retard and think for 10 seconds.Nobody cares about the hybrid cards we have now. Like 90% of them suck ass.I am fucking telling you if this change goes through, the cards Hasbro will have WotC print will make FIRE and Modern Horizons look like a fucking joke. Mark my words.
>>97553189Agreed. When it comes up at ny LGS and I see the person get anxious, I calmly try to explain the same, because theres those that will absolutely get antsgonistic towards someone in that position.
>>97553196I disagree but only because I believe in MaRo's vanity. See pic related
>>97552944No girl makes this much content about small penises without actually having a fetish for it anon. She wants to fuck that blue player, not you.
>>97553196ok enraged enrique you're correct that current hybrid cards are nonfactors in edh but wotc doesn't need permission from the playerbase to powercreep the game further just for the sake of monocolor, they can just powercreep the game *now* for multicolor
>>97553299>No girl makes this much content about small penises without actually having a fetish for it anon.It's called M O N E Y anon
>>97553299That's an AI bro
>>97553356>everything is AIYou're AI. Prove me wrong.
>>97553353Two things can be true
>>97553299Kind of weird that out of all things that a person could have a fetish for, literally 0 women have ever said "I just like small cute dicks over big meat."More women will admit that they like to get shit on than will ever say they like small dicks.
can anyone recommend some cards for a crusades themed deck? I'm basically just searching keywords like "crusade", "priest", "cleric", and so on on scryfall.
>>97553511how new?
>>97553523This is the only banned because it's offensive card I have, and it's the one that came in the first commander precons.
Just change the name and art so I can have the fucking effect please.
Does anyone else think eminence should be printed more?
>>97553187>tfw I have seen a "Person A" just roll a die to determine who wins
>>97553533your best bet is assassin's creed as wotc abandoned the middle ages aesthetic a long long time ago
>>97553550Only if they add several ways to turn it off in several colors.
>>97553465But in this case it’s only one, and not the one you wish were true.
>>97553550Short answer: no.Long answer: FUCK no. May as well print more Partners at that point.
>>97553473Traditional games, everyone.
>>97553550No because there should not be effects in the game that cannot be interacted with. Especially not effects that are on from the very first turn and at no fucking cost.
>1cmc white fogdamn, old cards are rad
>>97553570>there should not be effects in the game that cannot be interacted with.Yes there should
>>97553550Probably not.If edh at large wasn't a race to the bottom of the degeneracy barrel, then maybe they could be fun. But as it is eminence is basically the best effect for "thing" or just trash.On the other hand, I've only seen three commanders played in the last four games of edh I've been in. I want to go back to playing precons against each other at this point. Eminence at least makes the commander relevant outside of its color identity.
>>97553557Even that wouldn’t work. It’s like tribal hate, no one would ever run it because it does nothing if the hate target isn’t in the game.Even if you stapled other effects to it like “turn off eminence, draw 2” they would cost the mana to be less efficient than a card that didn’t have the eminence shut-off so it would still be a strictly worse card if eminence is not present.The only way around that I could see is if they did some extremely degenerate design like a card that lets you put your opponents commander from the CZ to hand or grave or something. That sounds wildly abusable and would probably be such an expensive card lower power level tables wouldn’t be able to run it
>>97553523incredibly new, I've literally never played magic before but it's the only not dead card game in my new city
>>97553588I don't know, they made it an effect like this it would be fine.Not playing against lifegain decks? That's cool. All decks draw so its still worth it.Its is only a 10 dollar card.
>>97553591Get into Lorcana, escape this hell
>>97553594No one is playing that for the life gain though, what a stupid comparison.
If Farewell is a gamechanger then Merciless Eviction should also be a game changer
>>97553599>No one is playing that for the life gain thoughLiterally the point I was making you idiot. Its better if someone is playing a lifegain deck, its just fine without it.If you had a card like this, that turned off eminence while still giving a good effect people would run it for the "just in case I can get that extra upside."
>>97553562NTA but why is that?
>>97553607I’m an Anus Changer. If you don’t stop posting your inane takes as if anyone cares, you’ll find out how an Anus Changer is defined and you won’t like it
>>97553595Nice try, mousecuck.>>>/tv/
>>97553550No, uninteractable mechanics are horse shit. Even emblems should be removed
>>97553610He doesn't want to admit or accept the people who care the most about the dick size of men are other heterosexual men
>>97553618And cards that say “for the rest of the game”
>>97553618>evenI think you mean "especially." At least eminence is confined to EDH, emblem horseshit is something you potentially have to deal with everywhere. Except premodern I guess.
>>97553557>>97553563>>97553586>>97553618So what you guys just proved, is ban eminence because starting the game turn 1 with essentially an emblem, is bad game design.
>>97553554>brown "people">templar/knight ok
>>97553618also all colors should be able to deal with all card types. Red enchantment removal now
I kinda agree eminence is lame just cause Edgar Marko is THEE vamp tribal, and Ur dragon is THEE dragon tribal. Like sure Tiamat could be considered a close second but that's if you cast dracogenesis, and dump 20 dragons out. Tiamat used to be $3 before tarkir because it was basically unplayable. Idk what the close second is for Edgar that shitty commander has a stranglehold on Timmy's first vamp tribal. I built a burn control deck purely to fuck over Ur & Edgar.
>>97553706it's ubisoft, what did you expect?
>>97553706Spain had knights, yes.
I went 2-1 tonight. Won with Lord Windgrace and Jaws, lost with Aminatou.Also opened about $400 of value from my $120 Riftbound box.Overall a great night.
>>97553686I mean if you want to at your table, sure. But you can extend that argument to several broken mechanics that drive just as much degeneracy. Eminence as it stands is held to a few commanders and the impact they have on the format is minimal at best. Ur-dragon is only a problem if you're going to drop five grand on a deck, the wizard lady I've seen once in the wild since she was printed, and Edgar is just a slightly worse version of the best mardu commanders that require you to run vampires instead of good cards to get to the same result. The others are cheeky and/or irrelevant.Printing more only opens the door to the powercreep problem inherent to a game that makes its money off of people buying new (read: stronger) product.You don't have to run Edgar/Ur-dragon to do their tribal thing, but it certainly makes it easier. Nobody at Wizards actually cares about balancing around these two cards anyway.
>>97553777lucky 7's niceMy personal hot take is just ban the reserve list. It gets old seeing people proxy cradles, and mox diamonds, underground seas. I know there's $10 cards in the reserve list that suck. But if it's never getting reprinted. It just doesn't feel right to have all these cards be legal.
>>97553821>It gets old seeing people proxyyes it's tiring to see people have no restraint whatsoever and proxy cards they can never have the financial ability to purchase
>>97553821Not too hot unless you already have them.>But you don't have to run dual lands/Gaia's/etcYeah sure. But I didn't buy Serra's Sanctum 7 years ago and now it's worth more than a decent suit. So I'll never really get to be on the same footing as you when it comes to building a deck. At least we got a slight treat with "basically duals but only for commander", but instead of printing those in every damn precon they're over $20 each.I'd go a step further and say the most fun I have is when there isn't a card over 15 bucks in the decks. Exceptions made for the commander and landbase (my group proxies at least the lands because it's so dumb to pay $30 per land per deck forever to avoid unsleeving things).
>>97553845>when there isn't a card over 15 bucks in the decks.a 100 card deck chock full of <$15 cards is worth $1500 btw
>>97553840Oh well what can you do?
>>97553854Yes, 100x15=1500. Very good, anon.If you're paying $15 for your plains then you've got some things to work through.
>>97553914Look I just like the pixel plains
>>97553205This analysis is spot on. If you pay attention the strong jewishness in Maro's behavior becomes clear.Never forget when he told a dying kid with literal cancer he'd stop designing his favorite cards, as a form of "politics" during a commander game
>>97553845I used to proxy $200 land bases for 3color decks too, and I also enjoy decks without overly expensive cards because I build and play a lot of decks per year. but one friend insists on using no proxies at all, and it made me tune my shit down on his level, only to realize that I enjoy "kinda optimized, but on a tight budget with weird jank" more than everything else. in this power level, I get to play a lot of underused spells as well as pet cards and cohesive draft piles.I think what led me to believe that I need to optimize every deck with goodstuff was the fact that precons are so awful to play, and it warped my understanding of the game.
>>97553821Fuck you you're not taking my squandered resources from me. Just proxy the damn thing
>>97551364Holy shit Toski poster made it to the big leagues! His very own jak? A Squirreljak of his own? I'm jealous.
>>97553968Too true, frankly. The way most precons (and how most get into the format/game) are shaped with terrible foundations lead to people over-correcting and needing to go super optimized. Some of the most fun I've had is buying the group of precons with my pals, fixing the lands with proxies and setting a fifty dollar upgrade limit. We got some good games out of those.There's also a breakpoint when it comes to powerlevel where if everybody is playing a strong enough deck it's just a race to a pre-defined, often seen conclusion. Like for me, it's weird that you'd put together a Sephiroth deck for four grand just to whip it out for five turns before you go infinite once a week.
>>97553991Me too desu. I never got a jak.
