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Valentine's Day edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms:
>>97542892

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread question:
Roses are red, violets are blue, what 1 colour is your faction?
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>>97553669
It annoys me that you didn't commit to the rhyme.
But to answer the question, I like how even in the standard box art scheme seraphon have a bunch of different colours. Mainly blue skinks and saurus, but also green chameleons and kroxigor, big dinos in all sort of colours, etc.
I do miss the red scaly shields of old saurus though, the new metal shields are a bit drab in comparison. The scarvet on carnosaur had the best shield design imo, keeping the scaly design but more elegant.
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>>97553669
Anybody has the full collection of DoT leaked pages ?
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>TQ
GOOOOOOLLLDDDD!
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>>97553713
Sorry bubs it's silver now
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More rumoursloppa, concerning nightrunners this time.
Seems like they're making nightrunners the classic eshin ninja unit while gutter runners get a bunch of warpstone techy shit.
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>>97553669
>TQ
I know I should but I can't stop myself from using this fucker on every army I own
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>Rotbark anon posts in wfg now
It's over
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>>97553853
Do you only play Slaanesh?
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>>97553936
No fucking way that guy hasn't posted anything since like 2018 or whatever.
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>>97553722
Ugh, silverbros...
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>>97553669
>tq
purple
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>>97553722
Nope, still GOOOOOOLLLDDD!
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>>97553669
green, but when I paint them they're gonna be pink
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i checked my list again and these are the pdfs i am looking for. with some i am unsure if they have actual lore in them or if they are just model re-releases under a new name.
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>>97553669
>TQ
Green :)
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>>97554162
Long time no see cloneslopper, how's it going? I saw you catch some flak in 40kg like a week or two ago, what was that about? They confuse you with some shitposter or something?
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>>97554194
One schizo thought I was some dude he'd beefed with before and had a fullscale melty over it. I still don't entirely understand wtf happened lol
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>>97554217
I had a look and I think they confused you for the goteslopper, who also posted some half finished deathguard minis. Also I think from context maybe he was also that one guy trying to start shit here and then posted some basecoated blue and orange mesbg dwarfs, which he apparently also did in the 40k general once.
Anyway, more on-topic, how do you feel about the new nurgle tome, and the new models? Planning to pick up some sloven knights or rotswords? I'm guessing you hafe enough blightkings for now.
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>>97554303
I won't be playing the new Maggotkin. I really hate how they've changed their design and they don't look fun at all to play imo. I'll stick to 2nd ed Maggotkin. I might pick up some of the knights and maybe a Rotswords unit or 2 if I see them really cheap since you can bring Chaos Knights and Chaos Warriors with 2nd ed Maggotkin and they'd be more appropriate looking, but overall I'm not a fan at all.
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>Alternative TQ:
What are, in (your) opinion, the BEST and WORST battletome covers in aos' history?
Reason I ask is because I recently discovered the 2015 khorne bloodbound one and it is truly awful, it has my vote for worst. Though some of the 4th edition ones have also been bad, really not a fan of the colored background with nothing in it.
For best, I'd have to say 3rd edition kharadron. Just think the composition on that one is really cool.
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>>97554400
for the worst i would probably have to gov with dreadhold, because it isnt even a real battletome. As for the best? Thats the first OBR tome. It is so fun to read and the cool stuff they could do was some of the most fun i had in 2nd Ed.
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>>97554400
>it is truly awful, it has my vote for worst
It's entirely fine, anon.
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>>97553685
I love lizards because you can have so many different colors on them and it will still look somewhat cohesive
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>>97554407
I appreciate the enthousiasm anon but I meant purely the cover
>>97554417
You can't convince me that dude looks good. The background is okay I guess.
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>>97554125
https://gofile.io/d/p8ovmP
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>>97554484
holy shit. thank you, anon. You're the best
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There's no way the new OBR book leaked already, right?
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Soon™
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>>97554437
Oh shit im sorry.
>worst
GSG has a bad one this edition, same with KO. The first Khorne Bloodbound cover is also pretty bad.
>best
2nd Ed Soulblight, 3rd KO, the first LRL tome, 3rd Khorne and the 2nd Edition Slaanesh tome with the twinsoul on the cover are all great.
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>>97554694
>2nd edition soulblight
Great choice anon
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0riglbkl/grove-guardian-by-alarielle-the-new-scent-of-life-in-ghyran/

Another treebitch
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treez nutz bitch
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>>97554941
oh baby yes, this is cool as fuck
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>>97554941
that came out of nowhere, but i like it.
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New spearhead
>*Buzzing noises*
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>>97554941
Goldest demon to ever gold
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>>97554941
What the fuck sure why not. Great looking mini but more of a diorama than an actual gamepiece honestly.
>>97554967
That's pretty nice, might pick it up. In yuros it works out to 195.75, so like a 38% discount.
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If you REALLY like treelords and somehow didn't have enough yet this seems like a great box. But I can't imagine that a lot of people are in need of that much treelords these days.
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>>97555180
Will pic this up if there’s are a treelord spam aor.
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https://youtu.be/pQ49lxaZXxc
>2nd edition style battletome trailers
SOUL IS BACK BABY
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>>97554941
oh hell yeah that owns
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>>97554941
despite being a diorama...this looks extremely easy to paint. Im still not a fan of the bugs but the beaks do make them redeemable imo.
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>>97554941
Probably the best Sylvaneth model. Amazing.
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>>97554967
oh my god, I literally pitched that exact combination of sets as a new Sylvaneth Spearhead but said it was too good and probably wouldn't happen
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>>97555278
This from a secondary that doesn't collect sylvaneth? Because its a clusterfuck of elements, most of which are notoriously thin and fiddly, that will snap when you're putting it into your container or taking out out. And you won't even notice until too late.

Kurnoth Hunters and Lady of Vines remain the best Sylvaneth models.
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>>97554941
Damn this came out of nowhere...
Also 'single pity hero release' confirmed. Fucking hell how many times have been like that now. Tzeentch, LRL, FEC, treeple, khorne...
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>>97555313
Pity heroes are the majority of releases for battletome/codex updates, anon. You should never expect more than that unless otherwise leaked.
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>>97554941
Nice I just got a shitload of Sylvaneth units
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>>97555307
you misspelled Belthanos there
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>>97555215
>find out amore
sovl
>>97555313
>Also 'single pity hero release' confirmed. Fucking hell how many times have been like that now
I mean, this is the default. So far in 4th we've had 4 really big release waves (starters, helsmiths, and nurgle), two medium to big waves (shitmob and soulblight), a medium wave (obr), three smallish waves (idk, KO, and sort of orcs because of terrain and spells). The rest has all been pity heroes, but honestly in terms of release size it's been pretty good. We also have 3 more huge waves coming up, and a couple smaller and medium sized ones too like eshin and DoK.
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>>97555307
>its a clusterfuck of elements, most of which are notoriously thin and fiddly, that will snap when you're putting it into your container or taking out out
Get a better container. Nowadays there are many systems to transport your fiddly models that won't break them.
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>>97555313
We just got Nurgle, and we've got big updates coming for CoS, Skaven, Ogres and Fyreslayers

Naturally GW is going to shove out all the pity hero mini-release battletomes in between the bigger releases.
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>>97554941
We've now got three treebitches
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when should we expect the rules for sylvaneth to leak
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>>97555371
>Big updates coming for Skaven

Huh? They just got a huge wave? CoS also has plenty of nice looking models.
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New Ogor rumours

>Ogors permanently losing their Mongolian flair
>Tyrant getting a lot of builds
>All ogors ending up much, much bigger than rat ogors
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>>97555414
tyrant being a multi build will be nice, I just hope its compatible with the new ogre stuff too.
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>>97555371
So aside from all the previously released tomes, we've now got lumineth, tzeentch, obr and sylvaneth either coming out or announced. That leaves cities, ogres, Sons of B and daughters of K, slaanesh, seraphon and slayers right?
Keeping in mind the rumours for big releases are CoS, ogres, and slayers; maybe something like this?
>obr
>sylvaneth
>cities (+eshin)
>seraphon (pity hero)
>40k summer break
>ogres autumn release
>DoK + Slaanesh
>Slayers/khazalid winter/christmas release
I'm assuming they'll want to release all tomes before 2027 so they can focus that on the end of the year campaign, I'm pretty sure they did the same with 40k last year.
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>>97555412
They're getting a named Deathmaster, new Gutter runners and new Night runners
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>>97555412
See >>97553779
The rumour for a while now is that CoS and Eshin will get a spearhead VS box featuring all new models. Skaven will get new gutter runners, night runners, and a new named deathmaster. Aside from pestilens (who are also rumoured to get something in the future though we don't know what or when) this'll mean basically their entire range got refreshed. You can see the gutter runner rumour at the end of the last thread. This is the dude who leaked all the nurgle whq stuff so pretty good track record.
2 10 man units + a hero does sound smaller than the normal spearhead boxes though, feels like they're missing something. Is there anything bigger eshin-related?
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>>97554762
Isn't this the same cover art they also used for 3rd and 4th?
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>>97555446
You're missing another generic deathmaster on the spearhead
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>>97554941
>>97554947
>Blood drop gems
Did she raid the Blood Angels jewelry vault?
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>>97553936
Genuinely grim.
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>>97555414
Taking away the Mongolian style of the ogors is like taking away the green color of the orruks.
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>>97554303
Neither my Dwarves nor my Death Guard are half painted or base coated or whatever other foul lies spew forth from your mouth. I even went back and did some more highlighting on some of them to make the beards pop more.
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>>97554967
>priest (2)
Oh fuck yes.

>>97554967
>oops all flyers spearhead
Oh hell the fuck yes.
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>And nine attacks that do d3 damage
>As well as being level 2 priest that can heal up to 3 wounds on 2 nearby friendly units.
Das ist gut
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>>97555490
Tell me about /40kg/ and why they hate you.
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>>97554941
>>97554947
I'm so glad it's not furshit. I was talking about Sylvaneth incorporating more flowers and fruits into their design and damn do I feel good about this.
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>>97555521
I told them the truth (10th sucks ass and 40k hasn’t been a good game since 6th edition) and they couldn’t handle it.
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>>97555514
It might be “up to 3 ON TWO nearby friendly units” or “up to 3 wounds ONTO nearby friendly units”. Hard to tell.
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>>97555554
Missed an unintentional get by one. Fuck my chungus life.
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>Dryad kits not being updated
So this pretty much confirms dryads as a unit are eventually going back to be solely in TOW? I am guessing weak warscroll this edition and squatted completely in the next.
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>>97555475
Not really, the Mongol look only came in WFB orges in 6th edition, before that it didn't exist
Green Skin Orcs and goblins have been around since at least secound edition of WFB, if not eailer so Ogors pivoting style to something else isn't that unpresidented
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>>97555609
>kit gets updated
>"this confirms the old kit is going to tow!"

>kit doesn't get updated
>"this confirms the old kit is going to tow!"
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>>97555521
His backstory is that he once gave another anon shit for not cleaning his mouldlines, then got asked to post models, which to his credit he did. Only his models were some goats with a shitty basecoat and absolutely covered head to toe in uncleaned mouldlines, for which predictably he got made fun of. He's also a notorious fakegrog who can never commit to a project and will get in slapfights semi-occasionally.
He also HATES aos and regularly stalks those "age of shitmar" threads, if he isn't the one behind them in the first place.
Fun character all around. Wish I could found the original thread.
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>>97555414
>All ogors ending up much, much bigger than rat ogors

Uh oh. They're gonna be in Gorger scale then?
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>>97555475
I cant even remember the last time it ever mattered. even in fantasy. Man eaters are more prevalent to their identity.
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>>97555623
The kit is already in TOW in terms of rules. It's a part of one of the core army lists. It's more so the question of exclusivity going forward with how GW stupidly divides most things by system.
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>>97555627
it depends on how big they meant by rat ogors. Do they mean as they are hunched? because if so the last pity hero's are as big as them already. .
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>>97555638
I'm just worried if my "lengthening" conversions didn't actually go far enough, because Gorgers are hilariously huge.
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>>97555632
Savage Orcs also got rules, but that didn't mean Bonesplitter models got brought back for TOW
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>>97555626
>He also HATES aos and regularly stalks those "age of shitmar" threads, if he isn't the one behind them in the first place.
Funny how you guys keep claiming my models are either basecoated only or full of mould lines etc. I am not the greatest painter but I do take time to clean mouldlines and paint past mouldlines.

While I dislike AoS overall, hate is a strong word. Also I have nothing to do with those crass shitposter threads. If I have something negative to say about 40k or AoS I will come into the threads and say it openly while declaring who I am. I don't hide in shadows and stir the pot like a woman.
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>>97555648
mmhm. I can understand your worries then. personally I dont think they'll be too crazy but who knows.
>>97555654
idgaf about tow but i'd go crazy for them boyz.
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>>97555654
No they didn't. They got soft squatted rules by being an upgrade for regular orcs. The dryads meanwhile exist fully as an independent unit entry in a core list.
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>>97555666
oh its you. yeah personally not a fan of you.
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>>97555632
Eh, so are boingrot bounderz in a way and I don't see those moving soon. Not that I think it's not possible dryads are moving, but that line of reasoning is flawed.
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>>97555632
>The kit is already in TOW in terms of rules. It's a part of one of the core army lists.
and it's not showcased in any promotional material, just like armored squigs, who are never going to tow

also chaos chariots, chaos giant, spider riders and aracnarok
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>>97555683
You don't have to be a fan, but don't blatantly lie about my models or my behavior. I have always been open and confrontational when needed so idk where the accusations of subversion come from.

Btw I am also the horse poster that started around Adepticon last year.
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>>97555690
>chaos chariots
You mean the chariots that are currently in the STD army box bundle for TOW?
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>>97555697
Not the anon who you were arguing with originally, or beforehand, whatever. I just think your opinions are shit. And you are a bit of a loser.
>horseposter
yeah definitely a loser.
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>>97555690
No Chaos Chariots show up in TOW photos, but GW does sell Chaos Chariots for TOW, unlike Dryads, which are AoS exclusive
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>>97555708
>yeah definitely a loser
I am sorry I forever made you realize how stupid looking the chimeric pony horses you bought look.
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>>97555705
the second part is for stuff that's in tow that's also in aos with no sign of leaving aos anytime soon
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>>97555554
The narration says "on two". In this case the subtitles are scripted, not auto-generated.
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>>97555697
>another case of one retard being behind multiple different, recurring shitposts
lel
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>>97555745
it really does go to show how fucking small this board is. Probably the website as a whole too.
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>>97555697
I bet you're also the faggot shitposting about nuhammer in /wip/ right now lol
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>>97555758
No that's not me. I assume that's perryfag. Was the person cursing and in general writing with a churlish tone? Not me.
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>>97555745
never doubt pareto
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>>97555758
Also to be clear. I hate some nuhammer. While I love other newhammer. Skaven are incredible. Emperors Children are fantastic. Chorfs are laughably bad, as are nuOrks in 40k etc. My opinions are more nuanced than old = good and new = bad.
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So Dark Elves are 100% confimed going to TOW now that we know everything non Human is being removed from CoS right?
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>>97555779
oh I'm sorry I didn't mean to give the impression that I give a fuck about your opinions
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>>97555414
> No Mongolian flair
But ... I loved that about them.
The CoS ones look like shit. So did the one from cursed city
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>>97555793
You seem to considering you saw what someone else wrote and your brain began thinking of me. I am quite flattered to be honest. You can continue to act bashful if you want babygirl I won't get mad.
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>>97555514
Where are you seeing the scroll leak
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>>97555786
>magic chariots too
shame because tow is not going to get those for lore reasons
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>>97555804
>shame because tow is not going to get those for lore reasons
I hope so. I was never a fan of them. But they will probably just retcon it like the dwarf axe launcher artillery so they can get sold for TOW too.
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>>97555796
What, the beards? That’s basically the only thing Mongolian they had going for them. Even then the city ogres have more Mongolian features facially too.
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Honestly I think OBR and Sylvaneth are going to be the big make or break books for this edition. Lumineth and Tzneetch were both actually well made books that were flavorful and gave meaningful options.

If 4.0 is going to be a success, they need to make sure that OBR and Slyvaneth, two huge AoS centric factions, are well made.
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>>97555812
It's would be culturally confusing for some of the new african american ogors to have mongolian beards.
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>>97555786
Huh, this goes against another monger who said elves and dorfs were staying, at least rules wise.
Also shame about the magic chariot that thing fits CoS better than it ever did empire desu.
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>>97555818
obr aren't particularly big of a fanbase

the only leftover big fanbase still to get their tome is lizards
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>>97555822
You aren’t being very coherent anon.
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>>97555786
God I hope they do send them to Old World. I just want Dark Elves to be properly supported in one fucking system of GW's. Is that too much to ask?
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>>97555837
I am saying some of the new Ogors will be black. Black people with mongolian beards would be confusing culturally. Hence why the mongolian aspects had to go.
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>>97555843
People already painted them black. Anon can you actually use your words to explain what Mongolian features the ogre models had.
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>>97555532
I don't see a wargaming piece, I see a diorama.
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You mean other than having stereotypical Mongolian beards and hair?
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>>97555869
Still going to deny they were Mongolian?
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>>97555869
Yes.
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>>97555874
I’m not denying that, I’m saying it’s never been a vocal point of the faction. Ogres are THE homogenous faction by design.
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>>97555877
Why are you responding like this is a congressional hearing? They literally originate from the part of the Fantasy world/World That Was that was Not! Mongolia.
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>>97555888
>Why are you responding like this is a congressional hearing?
Hey, he's not rambling and trying to avoid the question by resorting to bizarre non-sequiturs!
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>>97555885
>Ogres are THE homogenous faction by design.
No. They aren't. They are Warhammer Fantasies Not! Mongolians. A nomadic people coming from Not! Mongolia, with Mongolian hair and beards and styles, living in camps on the move like Mongolians.

AoS kept the aesthetic largely the same. Until this refresh. They won't be Mongolian anymore if rumors are accurate, but they undoubtedly were and currently still are.
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>>97555414
>>Tyrant getting a lot of builds
That might remove the sting of axing the "old" one a bit. I've liked most of the recent-ish multibuild heroes they've been releasing for 40k. The new Lumineth hero and this rumored Tyrant set a good precedent.
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>>97555888
>Why are you responding like this is a congressional hearing?
You need to get off the internet if that’s what you’re reading into it.
>They literally originate
From everywhere. They’re lore in fantasy wasn’t ever anything that serious. Orcs and goblins are more arguable as Mongolian expys in fb. Ogres were artificially placed where they were to pretend they had some depth.
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>>97555888
Wouldn't it be not!tibet instead?
and don't you bring up the fucking khalkha or whatever this ain't EU4
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I love my faction so much bros
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The new boxes are pretty good too. The battleforce is kinda meh because if you play Sylvaneth you probably have at least 4 Treemen already, but it's pretty good for starting. And the new Spearhead is excellent.
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>>97556019
my initial thoughts was that it looks nice but I wasnt going to get it because it would be wasted on me because it would be a bitch to get it right, but its honestly pretty easy overall. Hardest part might be the pitcher and the spite cocoon. I hope its easy for sub-assemblies.
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>>97556022
at least it's not fucking Drycha + revenants again
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>>97555827
They pretty much always treat lizards well. We always have something viable for each tier of play.
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>>97556019
It's too fucking busy.
The character by itself is fine, great even.
But it doesn't need all the extra shit
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>>97556035
If Drycha has one million fans I am one of them
If Drycha has 10 fans I am one of the them
If Drycha has 1 fan that is me
If Drycha has 0 fans then I am no longer on this earth
If the world is against Drycha
I am against the world
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>>97556121
Common Nuhammer design issue. The sculptors have never heard of the concept of a focal point so it all ends up looking like a blurry mess.
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>>97556121
You are wrong and gay.
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>>97556126
Bitch you don't even paint.
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>>97556121
not really. If someone wanted to learn how to paint dioramas I’d definitely get them to practice on this. Something busy would be that new defiler.
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>>97555666
>Funny how you guys keep claiming my models are either basecoated only or full of mould lines etc. I am not the greatest painter but I do take time to clean mouldlines and paint past mouldlines.
Yeah I really can't imagine why people give you shit for your mouldlines anon
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>>97556019
This is one of the few instances of a GW tree actually looking something like a tree.
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>>97556191
Why is it purple
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>>97556200
Some shit the archive does for valentine's day idk I kinda like it
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Can someone tell me the confirmed release dates for all the Battle Tomes this year, including those that have already been released?
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>>97556208
Nurgle jan 17
Tzeentch and lumineth february 21
We don't know much anon
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>>97556226
I would guess OBR and Sylvaneth will be released before the Adepticon reveals in March
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OBR never...
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>>97556239
Both seem very reasonable to me but technically neither have anything confirmed.
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>>97556019
Asset recycling is heavy in this one, worse than the usual pity hero tbhon
RIP Kurnothi bros
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>Sylvaneth getting a priest
Noice! I look forward to the bespoke prayer lore.
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>>97556019
It looks like a set of evolutions
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>>97556019
honestly the elf growing out of the pod makes the miniature for me
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>>97556534
she has a very lewd quality to her
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>>97556413
Maybe in a week i think this Sunday will either be Bloodbowl or Custodes for HH
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>>97556019
no new model on Monday then?
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>>97554947
Love the shears, very cute.
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>>97556561
It’s the parties and her back.
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>>97553984
Kino
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>>97556497
very low effort cover, it doesn't even look like an artwork that was intended to go on a cover as much as the side of a page
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>>97556497
>>97556674
That's the general trend of current books.
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>>97556674
I hate nondescript coloured backgrounds
I hate nondescript coloured backgrounds
I hate nonde... you get the point
Seriously is it like this in 40k too or what the fuck is going on who's in charge of art direction?
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>>97556019
How does one fuck the trees
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>>97556723
Yes it’s the same in 40k. It’s even worse in HH (just a dude doing a generic standing post across a black background). Only TOW gets covers with any sort of background or action.
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>>97556735
Horus heresy libers as an example (and reminder it could always be worse)
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>>97556761
>HH books are 88 dollars
Umm…
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>>97556735
For once I will kneel to the grogs that shit is much better.
Looked it up for 40k, it does seem similar but I feel like their shitty coloured backgrounds have at least something going on, vaguely.
Also I didn't even know 30k had battletome/codex equivalents or whatever. What's even in those?
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>>97556771
If you look at all the 40k codexes you’ll see it’s hit and miss. And the one you posted is a clear hit. And even then it’s not really a proper background. If you check out the other codexes you’ll see a bunch of example that more closely mimic the AoS covers.

The Horus heresy Libers contain lists for loyalists/traitors/mechanicum/solar aux. Thay are like army books or codexes but contain way more rules because they represent either multiple legions or the loyalist/traitor divide in the cases of solar aux and mechanicum.
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>>97556723
Gonna bust this one out again. Wish they'd invest a little more into AoS's art. Vincenzo Pratticò's battle scenes have been refreshing, at least.
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>>97556735
>>97556761
SGS not beating the allegation of not giving a shit about HH
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>>97556761
I don't dislike minimalistic covers with heraldry or schematics to be honest
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>>97553779
>eshin ninjas probably the only acceptable skaven
>haven't been in game until now
lol gw
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>>97556875
I do. They are completely soulless and instead of stoking your imagination like 40k/fantasy covers of old it just advertises a specific miniature.

Random question but how many pieces of IKEA furniture are in your home?
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>>97556889
I have mostly old wooden furnitures leftover from my gramps

just because I can like minimalism on book covers sometimes it doesn't mean I'd ruin my house in that, you dum dum
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>>97556888
I mean technically the night runners have always been there anon, they just look like shitty monkeys. You also have the deathmaster, as well as the themed verminlord and the UW warband.
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>>97556906
Fair enough. I didn’t mean any insult I have some ikeaslop myself. I will hard disagree with you on the book covers.

When I got into GW as a kid the thing that drew me in was all the incredible art on the books and on the miniature boxes. It stimulated your imagination like nothing else.
I understand why they show the minis on the front of the box now instead of the back. But it makes the whole thing feel more like a product rather than a gateway into a new world.
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>>97556910
missing the triads
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>>97556941
Nta but I largely agree, those kroot are a wonderdul example. I think tow has a decent middle ground where they have the minis front and centre but with art to the side. Though sometimes they pick some terrible artwork like picrel.
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>>97556941
KROOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Why did they put that fucking codex in the box, they could have literally released codex supplement rkoot mercenaries if they wanted.
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>>97556956
I’m sure mao does too.
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>>97556956
Did triads ever even have models, let alone in aos?
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>>97553779
I need this to be fake because there isn't a single reason for a skaven to have a meteor hammer as part of his weapon. Skaven aren't like orcs where they use a mish-mash of other cultures stuff, they do their own thing. complete design failure.
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>>97556960
that artowrk isn't technically terrible, it's just bad due to being based onthe Empire Knights model,s which are pretty bad and not exactly like historical armour
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>>97556960
Yeah that’s a new sketch I’m 99% sure. Those boxes are for sure hit and miss but I also prefer their layout. Ideally I’d like a full art return but I know that simply won’t happen.
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>>97556963
because gw is too retarded to have a proper alliance system in place
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>>97556963
I disagree. I’d much rather they continue to lean into Tau being a coalition of different alien races rather than split them off into their own thing. Micro factions being turned into their own armies is a plague on modern 40k and AoS.
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>>97554967
As a box, this is very tempting because it's all the things I really like in sylvaneth. As a spearhead I really don't want to fight an all cav army with my KO.
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>>97557000
There is plenty of precedent for skaven having flails
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>>97556019
I like everything but the character herself. Her pose and limbs look like wet noodles.
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Is there a good place to get the lore on the new Kurnothi units? The faction interests me but I don't even know where to go to read more about them.
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>>97557054
That’s isn’t what he was complaining about you’re acting like a politician. Address what he actually said you rat.
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>>97556518
AoS unit design frequently runs on Pokemon rules
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>>97556674
It's the exact style of all 4e books. 1 unit in the middle against a colour. Soneone chose uniform style for them
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>>97553669
>TQ
weather finally improved enough for me to start priming my back log of models
I'm blue, da ba dee da ba die
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>>97554956
praying they completely scrap awakened wyldwoods so I don't need $180 msrp in glorified terrarium decorations to play sylvaneth
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>>97557081
You’d think there’d be someone at some point that would call it out for the slop decision that it was. Classic corporate retardation.
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>>97557098
are the horrors prints?
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>>97557123
Some of them are. I ordered a model on ebay and the guy was nice enough to include a bunch of 3d prints of the horrors from Realms of Ruin.
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>>97557141
>3d prints of the horrors from Realms of Ruin.
Anon I...those are TW Warhammer ( Fantasy ) 3d prints.
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>>97557153
maybe he got it confused? That's what the note said from the seller. I quite like them either way
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>>97557188
He probably wrote that because only like 3 people on the planet played Realms of Ruin so he gambled on you not being one of those three and was right.
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>>97557012
>>97556960
lmao god that's awful
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>>97557201
I've seen worse.
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Beast Snagga, these guys would have been a better fit for Age of Sigmar than 40k.
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>>97557280
I agree. Genuinely I think they were smoking the same stuff that the HoH designers were smoking. Baffling design choices.
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>>97557280
all the beast boys from 9th edition are horrible imo
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>>97557280
If they were with bone splinters, then maybe.
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>>97557280
These guys should be consigned to the dustbin of history. Complete design failure. No need to double down and keep producing them.
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>>97557280
ORRUKS DON'T HAVE SQUIGS!

Fuck Klonk all my niggas hate Klonk
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>>97556730
Find a hole (or make one) and stick your dick inside.
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>>97556730
There's a short sotry about this
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>>97556730
Honey. Lots of it.
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>>97556730
Become one.
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>>97555532
>can switch sickle for shears
Yay.
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>>97557280
Yeah, especially as runty not quite Ironjawz level Orruks. If Ardboys got something analogous to Boarboyz it'd fit the Orruk ecosystem, essentially fighting amongst themselves in the fungus they grow from until they're hard enough, to tame rowdy squig things growing alongside them.
>Ardboys + Boarboys
>Runts (Greenskinz) + Squigboys
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>>97555532
>the model is acitvely giving birth
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>>97557402
trying to figure out how I can replace the head with something more...flowery. Maybe I'd be better off doing something more branchy.
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>>97555532
didn't need to know how soulpods grow tbhon
demystifies too much
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>>97557438
If we go by the fluff then soulpods can be a lot of things. It's almost like a category of anything new sylvaneth sprout from, not anything specific like a single type of plant seed or flower bud.
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>>97557435
You could try to make some simple leaf shapes with greenstuff and attach them around the headgear.
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>>97557684
Thicc thighs save game systems
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>>97556730
Dick Stick Trick.

Learn from Lady Ninja: Reflection of Darkness
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People have been talking about Dryads getting replaced so the old kit can go to TOW or getting squatted so the old kit can go to TOW. but there is another option. Aparenlty a TOW rumor monger with a good track record has said that TOW is getting a new starter set with all new kits, like 40k and AoS get every edition, and it'll be Wood Elves vs Tomb Kings.

What if the current Dryad kit stays in AoS because Wood Elves are the ones who get a new Dryad kit?
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but either way, that new character was enough to get me to pull the trigger on the battleforce while it's still available below MSRP
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>>97558404
Better idea, dryads get squatted and replaced with nothing.
>>97558431
>a $45 dollar character, a character you can get for $30, 5 too many spite revenants and 20 paperweights
Do people actually want to run dryads? It's such a garbage unit I don't see in many lists and the sculpt is so old.
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>>97558404

>my uncle at Nintendo said

desu think itll just be one of the uncommon kits that is shared between the two system for the foreseeable future such as the chaos chariot
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>>97558404
>Wood Elves are the ones who get a new Dryad kit?
I’d be curious what direction they would go with them. I wonder if they’d make them edgy or a more listless variant of them. I’ve assembled the current kit and it’s not fun.
Anyways I hope we get more flower motifs in future sylvaneth expansions, furry, not furry, or bug. Even if the new hero really has more fruits than flowers I think.
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>>97558479
apparently the guy listed a bunch of predictions and almost all of them were on the money
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>>97558404
>>97558479
NTA but the guy was 21/22 for correct predictions (not counting the WE vs TK box rumor in the total). Also there's a lore writeup in a recent AJ that seemingly sets up the Wood Elves vs Tomb Kings confrontation in the setting.
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>>97555786
>CoS is just gonna be the boring generic human faction now
People will cheer for this.
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>>97558562
Wow I really dont care for the reason for this matchup.
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>>97558568
Rude, I spent like 10 minutes reading through the journals trying to find it to provide context for you.
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>>97558404
That'd be funny.
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>>97558573
not the guy you were talking to originally but I genuinely would be more interested in the source of the guy than that lame passage.
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>>97558492
Anime waifu. Since in Fantasy dryads are as likely to take on beautiful human form as they are to take the form of the current kit and either fuck or murder the human men they lure into the woods because they're insane.
Here's some funny ones instead because they gave me a giggle.
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>>97558608
>>97558613
I am aware that this isn't the primary source but considering this was posted as a summary with the same correct number of predictions way before the FAQ dropped and confirmed almost all of the rumors.
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>>97558613
damn its been a hot minute since I checked on dakkadakka. Thanks either way.
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>>97558613
>CoS losing soup
>TOW gaining BoC+StD soup
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>>97558637
That's what the people wanted no? To do away with soup.
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>>97557226
That's a bad one for sure, especially given the actual model depicted is great.
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>>97558637
if I wanted to play boc-std soup Id figure out where the local gay orgies are at. Or just play nurgle or tzeentch.
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>>97558655
Soup is hearty and filling and can restore a mans spirit on a cold day.
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>>97558667
And people still wanted it gone.
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>>97558678
The tragedy of the commons eh
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>>97555313
I see no problem with getting a pity hero if the model is actually good and has cool rules, which was the case with Tzeentch and LRL
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>>97558667
BULLFUCKING SHIT IT IS
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>>97558655
Why is Doro so superior?
Which army would she collect? I feel DoK or Sylvaneth. Doro colour scheme in DoK would be aesthetic
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>>97558667
Soup isn't a meal. You can have it as an accompaniment. Unless it's super chunky with actual food in it
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Thoughts on hit/wound tables returning? It's the ultimate pleb filter imo
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>>97558741
'returning'? AoS never had it
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>>97558742
AoS is a continuation of Warhammer Fantasy both literally and in the lore.
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>>97553669
It changes.
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>>97558468
>Do people actually want to run dryads? It's such a garbage unit I don't see in many lists and the sculpt is so old.
Rules change. What I've learned over the years is that it's worth having at least two units of everything so it's easy to adapt when a new edition shakes the balance.
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>>97558741
Yeh plebs insist on adding it and then pinachu face when units can't interact anymore
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>>97558789
>adding interaction removes interaction actually
Frogs and their posts.
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>>97558744
You literally have Warhammer Fantasy again, if this is actually the same game and you want to play it with tables then go play it
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>>97558741
Tables are lame. Just do what Necromunda does.
Equal is 4+
S is higher 3+
S is double 2+
T is higher 5+
T is double 6+
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>>97558867
If you look at the table it follows the same number of rules. That's why it's the ultimate pleb filter. A pleb looks at the numbers and is overwhelmed and hates it. A patrician looks at the chart and realizes he just has to memorize 5 different " rules " to memorize the table, in the style you described. It makes the game far more interactive for very little added mental load.
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>>97558867
>>97558872
Equal is 4+
S is higher 3+
S is 2 or more higher 2+
T is higher 5+
T is 2 or more higher 6+

Boom. That's literally it. It's just as simple. Hence why tables are the ultimate pleb filter.
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>>97558867
No:
Strength < Toughness: 6.
Strength = Toughness: 5.
Strength > Toughness: 4.
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Whatever the solution you prefer. Can we all agree it's retarded that hitting a clanrat is as likely as hitting archaon? This is why we need some kind of interactive system that accounts for this.
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>>97558886
Go to 40K to or WHF. Don't come to the game that's different from those and insist it shouldn't be
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>>97558894
>different from those
>the exact same general motions
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>>97558872
>>97558873

Yeah either or, having a formula is easy.
Having to refer to a table though is dumb.
Hadn't looked at the table before to see what or if there was a formula.

>>97558886
Agree. BUT, when it's a game with lots of units I feel it probably is good to save time. Vs say a skirmish game where it's generally quicker to play
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>>97558898
>when it's a game with lots of units I feel it probably is good to save time.
You can just use the table or any of the rule systems proposed. You're rolling the same number of dice as before, the outcomes you're looking for simply become different relative to the S/T interaction. This is all done simply via those 5 rules instantly in your head. It's like 2 seconds more of thinking vs simply remembering the actual value from the warscroll.
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>>97558896
And you want to delete the ways it ISN'T the same, until they're identical, in which case what's the point then
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>>97558938
NTA but no. You're being dramatic. What's being proposed is adding interactivity in close combat. Nothing more, nothing less. This would be an improvement imo. Unless you can articulate why the current system is better without resorting to " because it's the way it is "
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>>97558886
>Can we all agree it's retarded that hitting a clanrat is as likely as hitting archaon?
That's what armor and wards are for retard
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>>97558943
Its how AoS works, the shift was literally the defining mechanic of the game that separated it from WHF before it

On top of that this would necessitate ANOTHER index edition, I'm getting sick of launches that start with throwing ALL your old books into the bin
AoS's interactivity in melee is choosing what order to activate units, when to activate strats

>>97558954
And wounds. In AoS the prime way of making things harder to kill is with more hitpoints.
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>>97558898
The idea is that if s=t you do a 4+, and then if your strength is higher or lower than toughness by 1 you subtract/add 1 respectively, and if the S/T is different by any more than 1 you subtract/add 2 instead. The table does more harm than good honestly the rule is very simple.
Either way, S/T adds a level of interaction in general but can very quickly get annoying, and will make games more matchup dependant. Just look at knights in 40k which are a pain in the ass to fight especially if you didn't bring a bunch of very high strength units, which are kind of a waste in other games.
There's certainly something to be said for the it but it's not the automatic plus op seems to think. In this case I refer to the prevailing wisdom: what does mesbg do?
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>>97558960
Oh, and I suppose if toughness is higher than strength by more than 5 you just can't hit it? Which seems pretty lame but whatever.
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>what does mesbg do?
For wounding it uses the table/rules of fantasy/40k/Necro etc. It's much harder to " wound " generally in MESBG. Requiring 5-6's usually. But there's no armor saves as that's built into the toughness stat.
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>>97558976
What the fuck is going on with the fractions once you get to the big defense to strength differences.
Also no advantage to having a 1 more strength than the enemy's defense, interesting.
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Why shouldn't a clanrat be able to hit Archoan? It's not like Archy does a backflip to avoid a rusty knife.
The point is that he's too tough for anything clanrat can do to matter, not that the clanrat fails to do his thing
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>>97558997
>What the fuck is going on with the fractions once you get to the big defense to strength differences.
It means if you succeed on the first roll, you must then reroll and succeed again on the second value.

So you need to roll a 6+ and then a 4+
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>>97559000
You misunderstood what I wrote. I am saying that lets say a stormcast has the same likelihood to strike successfully against a clanrat as he/she has against Archaon. That's dumb imo.
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>>97559014
The strike will probably go on to kill the clanrat where it will probably do nothing to Archy, the hit value of attacks just represents competency in swordsmanship
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>>97559020
>just represents competency in swordsmanship
Exactly. In combat this is relative. Having this be fixed instead of relative removes all interaction and moves the game away from simulating a battle between the two models.
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>>97559014
If anything it seems easier to hit archy than a clanrat desu.
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>>97559014
No he doesn't. Stormcast swings a hammer, hits a clanrat and 1 shots him. Stormcast swings a hammer and it bounces off of Archaon.
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>>97559031
I mean yeah. But we are talking about simulating a battle between Archaon and the Stormcast right? So we have to assume Archaon is fighting back and not just standing there like a Mythbuster experiment. With Archaon fighting back, the relativity of the swordsmanship between them would alter how many blows one landed on the other.
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>>97554162
I love those big white eyes, like a deadite in the evil dead videogames
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>>97559028
The interaction is
>2 rolls to represent the attack
>1 or two save rolls to represent defence (one of which gets affected by rend)
>Wound applied, models removed
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>>97559036
He does fight back, when he's activated
Or do you want initiative to return too and individual combats resolved like Fantasy as well
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>>97559036
You can give him strike firs to make him slice people up before they touch him, but at some point you have to remember this is a game and the game pieces are meant to be balanced before being lore accurate
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>>97559036
I mean I get your point mechanically speaking but thematically archaon is sitting on a demonic dragon-chimera-thing the size of a small barn, that hammer is hitting his ass.
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>>97558741
would solve a lot of problems that the game has.
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>>97559099
Yeh like the high cost of models because it would tank demand and make people sell their shit half off
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>>97558835
What interaction does "this mode physically can't do anything to this model" adds?
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>>97558728
>he doesn't know what "soup" was
NGMI
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>>97559146
>what does "the way this model interacts with other models" add compared to "these are just flat numbers and what you're swinging at is irrelevant"?
You can picture an apple in your mind, right?
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>>97559129
so you mean it would get rid of low IQ smoothbrains?
sounds like a win to me.
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A goblin in AoS generally hits on 4s and wounds on 5s, their comparative incompetence at fighting is ably represented by the fact that they do fuck all damage against basically anything.

But sure, we can add a whole additional two stats, and a chart and a formula in order to determine that sometimes, the goblin wounds on 6s instead of 5s! Incredible!
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>>97559208
>argument ad absurdium
Expected.
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>>97559212
Oh boo hoo hoo go cry somewhere else. Literally everytime someone tries to make the argument for Strength/Toughness the example given is inevitably a goblin or clanrat attempting to wound a dragon or Archaon, as if that's even a problem that exists in game. The reality is that the goblin is just as fucked in that hypothetical matchup in AoS as they are in Fantasy, arguably even more so because the AoS incarnations have things like huge wound pools or the ability to obliterate 3-5 goblins per swing.

You have to argue simulation because mathematically, there's no problem that needs solving.
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>>97559236
They give an example, they show how the context of the two figures changes the rolls. There's actual interaction.
All removing these stats did to make it flat rolls is keep the same two rolls, remove interaction between units, and bloat the game since the toughness is now save and wounds.
So where before a tough model was just hard to wound without the right tools now you need to give it extra wounds making it a sponge. You're taking things out, not actually simplifying things, and padding things out with a bunch of guff.
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>>97559236
It's not " having to argue ". It's arguing on the grounds of simulation because we're playing a wargame. It's insane that you fundamentally dont understand why a wargamer would want aspects of simulation in his tabletop wargame. Touch grass in the hobby sense.
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>>97553669
Ok so back in the day I played 40k and whfb, like 2nd / 3rd and 4th / 5th. I don't have much desire to go back to old sculpts, if whfb had a good starter and new models for all factions I'd be all over empire, wood elves, undead etc.

The lore is kind of beyond me if I'm being honest but that just seems like more of a time investment thing.

So from a play perspective, is Spearhead a good experience of the game? Does it play well?
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>>97559408
>So from a play perspective, is Spearhead a good experience of the game? Does it play well?
Arguebly the best thing GW offers now. Turn ou they do a lot better with pre-made lists
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its funny when a clan rat takes a wound off Archaon
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>>97559346
AoS is still a simulation, it's just a better simulation that doesn't require a stupid grog chart that creates a bunch of retarded edge cases that only make the game worse.
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Sincerely hope strength and toughness never gets put into the game, it will make all unit interaction a pretty dumb case of rock paper scissors
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>>97559416
Yeah I thought it might be
I might give it a go with chorfs v elfs
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>>97559408
Any factions or archetypes you're specifically interested in, acros either fantasy or aos? And yes, spearhead is one of gw's best ideas in recent years, plays very well. Quite well balanced too, with a couple exceptions.
I do have to say since you mentioned wood elves and new sculpts, there's a pretty well supported rumour floating around that wood elves are going to be part of a tow starter box in the not so distant future, so it might be worth keeping an eye out for that. /wfg/ can probably give you more info on that.
Oh, another nice thing about spearhead is that it's very low cost to entry (for warhammer). A single box and you're good to go, and you can always use that box as a good starting point for a full army.
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>>97554642
Kurnothianon,

How do you hope Kurnothi release looks like?
Also, would you prefer they have their own tome or soup with trees?
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>>97559444
Aos: helmsmiths, sylvaneth, ghoulkin
Whfb: wood elves, empire, beastmen
40k: always liked aeldari, guard and genestealer cults (even if they are a bit silly)

Just love bong elves, evil dwarves with goblin slaves, zombies and humans doing their best with muskets
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>>97558741
I think the only value in charts is when what they chart isn't linear or easily describable with simpler text
for example, nobody ever remembers that chart visually, people just understand it's written like this
>equal stats is a 4+ roll
>difference by 1 or 2 is ±1 or ±2
>can't go lower than 2+ or higher than 6+
>there could be some extremely niche instances where unlikely low strength can't do shit against unlikely high toughness but you'll never encounter them
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>>97559428
The zoomie fears the easy to understand graphical element.
His mind would melt at seeing something like DBA or games where there was no chart instead you have a table of results based on a die rolled per player plus modifier to determine what actually happens.
He claimed AoS is somehow a simulation.
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>>97559434
Just like rend+saves? The only difference is one is presented as a table and another is sequential maths
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>>97559451
Good taste! For aos helsmiths and fec both already have their books, and I think they're quite fun compared to a lot of tomes released earlier in the edition, so you're in luck there. Sylvaneth one got announced literally just yesterday so we don't know much yet, but traditionally they're a pretty mobile and gimmicky army, teleportation tricks, that sort of thing. Helsmiths only have 1 spearhead so far, which seems fun but on the weaker side. Flesh eaters have two and they both seem fine, though one has all the new models and the other has a bunch of old stuff. Sylvaneth has one very elite one with a treelord (very strong btw) and a new one that got announced yesterday with more shooting and flying stuff, if you scroll up a bit you'll find it.
For tow I don't know too much, except that beastmen are strong and fun, empire is kind of ass, and wood elves are very unfun. Though again, keep those boxset rumours in mind.
For 40k I know even less, though I've heard eldar had a very good refresh recently.
Good luck anon :)
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>>97559458
There hasn't been a 0+ save unit since 2e Seraphon so rend 0 can damage anything
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>>97559028
it is relative a stormcast has a 29% chance to damage archaon and a clanrat has a 3% chance. A chaos dragon isn't even unhittable in tow by shitters a clanrat will kill one in 555 rounds, it would take him 833 to kill archaon.
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>>97558564
Redditoids will unironically cheer for this because it means more le hecking wahmyn and blxck models with abomination faces.

Because you know, diversity is only if theres women and brown people, not actual different races.
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>>97559520
Tahlia in indian thoughbeit
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>>97559434
They could rps with the current system if they wanted to but they don't. Its why your factions unit list constantly turns into one the best unit spam. They don't make ultra save low health profiles, they don't make units with rend 5 and 1 attack, they don't make hp bags with no save.
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>>97559526
Tahlia is Capilarian.
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Anyay i think it's cool that the new CoS gate gargants might be refrencing that one bit of lore about a gargant sacrificing himself to lock one of the gates to Azyr before Chaos managed to get in
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>>97559486
Thanks
I normally do historicals and indies but I need to find opponents
So a gw game or two is a good way to make contacts and challenge myself w painting
I used to assume it was too exopnsive but you just have to hunt around
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>>97559569
Yeah the secondhand market is a blessing. I've seen some crazy deals.
I've managed to snag a full stormcast army, still on sprue, for less than a spearhead. Granted, that's stormcast, but still.
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It would be fun if GW's release schedule was so fucked that all the new OBR stuff has been lined up to become available for preorder next weekend. But it won't happen. Unfortunately GW has its shit together just well enough to be disappointing.
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>>97559609
What do they still have to release? The blood bowl elves, I think cathay has been waiting this entire time, and then the new 40k csm stuff they've been showing off for monday? Maybe some horus heresy thing I'm forgetting?
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>>97559526
Tahlia is English
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>>97559695
what's the difference?
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>>97559700
Multiculturalism. CoS are analogous to modern English people, a diverse mix of people's uniformed in a post racial culture. She may be phenotypically Indian but that's irrelevant
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>>97555414
>>Tyrant getting a lot of builds
That'd be nice, current one is cool but very one-note. The ironblaster kit also seems to be staying, and boole kind of implied they'd get some more stuff in 5th edition too. He compared them to lumineth and slaanesh who both had kind of split releases.
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When can we expect to see Eshin wave?
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>>97559737
With CoS since they get a vs box spearhead
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>>97559737
Will probably get shown at adepticon, so I'd assume they're coming out a month or so later. I'm guessing their box with CoS will be a sort of first wave for them, like how the army box usually releases like a month before the rest of the faction.
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>>97559737
summer
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>>97559449
nta but I want them in the same tome as Sylvaneth. I'm imagining it as like the Darkoath release for StD; a bunch of useful cheaper options that theoretically can be run as a full army themselves but you would do that as more of a fun fluff choice than because it's good on the table that ay.

As for the units themselves, I'd like satyrs with bows as a cheap shooting unit, and centaurs with either spears or bows as a slightly cheaper cavalry unit than the bug riding guys. Those seem like a lock because that's what's been represented by the models we've gotten so far. After that, I'd want some big bruiser melee guys, bear Aelfs. Those could be a unit of 5 roughly the size of the guy in Darkwater, or make them bigger and do a unit of three, or, and this is the very exciting option, make him a big fuck off monster on like a 60mm base. Big pissed off bear Aelf. I'd love that.

Leaders, I'm less sure there. Obviously a centaur hero, basic mounted hero guy, that's assumed. The new Sylvaneth healer is 100% plant themed so let's say the Kurnothi get their own healer character, some satyr babe. And a shooting hero of some kind.

I'd be happy with that to start with.
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>>97559737
I HOPE it is Boole version of Gutter Runners (poison tank on back of Skaven), not the other frenchleak (a mechanical generator warpstone tank).

Mech should be Skyre, not Eshin.

Eshin is poison.
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>>97559834
NTA but I really hope Kurnothi do not end up as just cheap chaff units. I am hoping for a more elite army.

Also, we should get Kurnoth himself as massive centerpiece.
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>>97559864
>not the other frenchleak (a mechanical generator warpstone tank)
wut? where does this come from?
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>>97559864
not much of a difference
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>>97559878
the issue is that if they're in the Sylvaneth tome, Sylvaneth already has the more elite options.
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>>97559888
Here.
>>97559906
Quite a difference. One is liquid poison other is Skyre mech.
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>>97559946
Yeah I'd like them to be shuffled into CoS to fill the vacancy left by Wanderers. As a light cavalry unit with bows/spears the centaurs also have much less overlap with the units in CoS than in Sylvaneth.
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Boole version.
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>>97559834
nta too but as Sylvaneth player I really hope Kurnothi go into CoS (unlikely) or their own tome (also unlikely).

Shoving them into Sylvaneth tome is nothing but bloat. Also, the whole flora vs fauna theme.
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>>97559976
I loved Wanderers but Kurnothi would be such a bad fit in CoS. Visually and thematically it wouldn't make any sense

But I really do muss Wanderers :(
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>>97560023
>Shoving them into Sylvaneth tome is nothing but bloat
It's not bloat, Sylvaneth have the absolute bare minimum they need. Their current model range is tiny.
>Also, the whole flora vs fauna theme.
flora and fauna, that's why I like them in Sylvaneth tome. The whole forest is pissed at you
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>>97559973
>>97559986
Aren't they talking about the same concept? Skull mask skaven with some sort of techy shit strapped to his back that powers his blades. Gutter runners look to be pretty techy while nightrunners retain the classic ninja look.
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>>97559973
>One is liquid poison other is Skyre mech.
both will be a closed boiler of some shit with warpstone jammed in it
at worst your eshin poison will be warpstone tea
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>>97560055
Similar.

I hope it is liquid warpstons poison with tubes leading to katar blades per Boole, not the tech aspect which should be Skyre aesethics.
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The one thing that I wanna see in sylvaneth, when (and if) kurnothi is added into it, is a horde calvary unit. Include some of the furry units, regular units mounted wanderers, and critters that run with them like birbs.
Also something like chariot runners that can interact with them, even if they don’t have chariots.
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>>97559037
Thanks anon :) I love the white eyes because, like you said, it makes 'em look dead and "empty" which I think makes the models kinda spooky.
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>>97559449
>How do you hope Kurnothi release looks like?
A few updated Wood Elf units from the Wanderers/WFB days but with an AoS twist like we got with the LRL. Eternal Guard-esque mainline troops, Glade Guard-esque skirmishers (like the Satyr-elves we got with Skaeth) and so on.
But obviously I want the centaurs as well. Elite centaur-elf melee cavalry, centaur-elf ranged cavalry equipped with javelins and throwing weapons.
Centaur hero, archer bipedal hero, mage bipedal hero.
Belthanos as their centrepiece hero.
All versions of the Kurnoth Hunters would also be present in the army.

>Also, would you prefer they have their own tome or soup with trees?
Their own tome but being realistic. they'll probably be rolled into Sylvan.
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>>97559878
>Also, we should get Kurnoth himself
I prefer "herald" type models than actual god models, also isn't kurnoth supposed to be kind of dead?
Then again I love the eidolon so maybe something can be worked out there.
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>>97560290
>isn't kurnoth supposed to be kind of dead?
Yes, that's why we have Belthanos.
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>>97560290
>also isn't kurnoth supposed to be kind of dead?
It's been said over and over that he will be back. In Dawnbringers Kroak even takes the time to telepathically tell Alarielle "Chill bitch, you'll see him again soon"
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>>97560507
If Kurnothi are going to eventually be a thing, they deserve their own centerpiece that isn't just a treeman cosplaying as Orion.
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>>97560551
I wish the centerpiece for sylvaneth was a treewoman cosplaying as ariel instead of an actual elf
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>>97560551
>they deserve their own centerpiece that isn't just a treeman cosplaying as Orion.
I have just the thing:
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I sincerely hope the Spitewood warband were the last of these furries to be released.
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>>97560192
>>97560290

Are you really Kurnothianon?

It has been stated MULTIPLE times he is coming back.
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>>97559878
>we should get Kurnoth himself as massive centerpiece.
Since there are already so many gods in the game as models, it really makes me wonder when Sigmar himself will get a model. Teclis, Nagash, and Alarielle are already in.
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>>97560610
clearly they're holding back sigmar and azyr as battlefront to have a momentous development eventually
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>>97560594
I'm not, though I don't know about the other guy you're replying to. I like him better dead desu, dead gods are just kind of cool.
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>>97560642
Even in WHFB, Orion/Kurnoths whole thing was dying in Winter and being Reborn every spring, even among all the Elf gods, who are very prone to reincarnating themselves, Kurnoth always made the most sense to come back.
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>>97559609
Holy shit

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cylwzxbf/sunday-preview-reap-the-bone-tithe-with-osseous-reinforcements/
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>>97560853
That's a surprise.
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>>97560878
A very welcome one. By the end of 2025 half the armies were still without a 4e battletome. It's nice to see the release schedule pick up pace.
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should i cope for dark aelves by 5th or 6th ed or forget about it alltogether?
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>>97560853
The ossiarchers definitely come in groups of 20, good to know.
But damn yeah surprised to see ossiarchs already. Looking forward to the battletome articles, curious how they'll play. Lrl and tzeentch were a breath of fresh air.
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>>97560914
habeeb it
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>>97560896
that certainlly means Sylvaneth will be coming out before Adepticon
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>>97555786
No, because countless things have been removed from AoS and not added to TOW, for instance neither of the mage war machines are in TOW.
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>>97560957
Those War Machines don't make sense for the time period TOW is set in.
The Dark elves on the other hand, are rather plot-important since Malakith invades Ulthuan with a massive force, which is the first conflict that Tyrion and Teclis take part in
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>>97558404
Not impossible, I could see there being a new Forest Spirit AoI in TOW for Wood Elves, which would mean that new Dryad models make sense.
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>>97560642
Yeah, but Fyreslayers already have that alongside LRL Phoenix Temple I suppose
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>>97560053
>fauna theme
Name one. It's just the Warbands and the Warhammer Quest. Sylvaneth are 100% flora unless you bring up legends units
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>>97560914
They're coming in 5th brother
no seriously it's not much but the rumourmongers have at least acknowledged malerion for the first time in a decade, they're coming
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>>97560923
I wonder if this will start becoming the norm, sticking two units into a box like TOW and HH
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>>97561096
20 morteks is the norm for OBR since they were invented
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>>97561006
Sylvaneth are insect theamed. One of their endless pells is a giant worm, other is a sworm of bugs, only 1 is a plant
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>>97560979
I hope so, new dryads would be cool and tree kin too. But I hope they keep the aesthetic of the current (older) treeman. I really don't like the 8th edition plastic treeman/Sylvaneth current model. I really like how the older Treeman looked like a tree and not like an anime anthropomorphization of a tree.
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>>97561117
Huh, turns out a few kits are already 20 man units, I've not even noticed
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>>97561096
>>97561222
There's quite a few; morteks, clanrats, and stabbas come to mind. Morteks are relatively small, I assume these dudes will be around the same size. Then again zombies and deathrattle skellies also come in boxes of 20 and they're a head bigger.
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youtube.com/watch?v=8HBp73ydZgw
At 5:56 there is pretty much confirmation the Celestant Prime is Karl Franz.
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>>97561383
>>97548936
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>>97561383
>>97561402
That's just a lazy copy of an older article
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>>97561383
GW really doesn't know what to do with WD anymore
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>>97560853
Am I missing something or is the battleforce not coming out yet? The one with arkhan.
>>97561202
Yeah the 8th edition treeman is a bit too smooth, but the old one is a bit too much tree and not enough man yknow. I'd personally like something between the two extremes.
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>>97560853
OBR now...
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>>97561426
Showing kitbashes of AoS charios and other vehicles for factions that don't have them was cool
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>>97561426
To be fair warcom kind of took its place as the primary way to interact with the community. Just another victim of digitalization I suppose.
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>>97561508
WD hasn't been worth buying for well over 15 years now. This isn't a recent development. You have no idea how old WD's used to be treasure troves for hobbying and not just advertisements.
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>>97561556
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>>97554400
Best 2nd Cities of Sigmar
Worst is picrel, doesn't even look like a battletome cover. I also hate the 3rd Serapon cover because the Aggradon just looks weird.



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