>>97561783
>which 2026 releases are you most excited for?
Hmmm
Uh....
New release?
I suppose flick fleet box of xeno flicks.
Rereleases? Maybe the T&E reprint?
There is supposed to be some new Tag Team content this year right?
I admit, I have become rather out of the loop of what is down the pipeline for boardgames now.
If Canada could receive the Compile Aux packs so my preorder from last March would finally ship, that would be neat-o.
>closing out with 4 players
For many years, our go to palate cleanser was some good old fashioned Hearts.
Nowadays, it's Sea Salt and Paper, An Oink game, or some The Mind.
If people dont mind "closing out" to be a while 'nother endeavour entirely once the bear-ish players have left, we bustin out Guards of Atlantis.

I have a sudden craving for a very particular kind of game that I'm not even sure exists.
It's a game (2 players or more) that has a strategic level capaign (like here I stand from gmt or something similar) with tactical level battles (like a hex and chit wargame).
Does such a thing even exist?

>>97561783
>how is work on your design coming along?
I don't have the RAM in my head to design a game. It's one of my biggest flaws.

>>97561783
I'm excited for the (hopefully) incoming pax ren reprint
I don't have enough imagination to design something
I don't care much about fillers

>>97561783
>how is work on your design coming along?
I'm terrible at setting aside time to develop any of them, but I have a solid handful of design ideas drifting around in my head and google drive.

Just finished playing dominion for the first time. I had played the star wars deck building game but it wasn't my thing. Loved dominion. I thought it was a weak type of game, turns out I hadn't played the good ones. Other similar games to dominion? I heard the marvel one is nice as well

>>97561812
Undaunted Stalingrad isn't exactly HiS-style strategic level but it is a campaign made up of smaller tactical battles and the outcome determines which street you'll fight for next.
that said, it's Undaunted, so only get it if you and your chosen opponent like the system enough to play fifteen games or so of it, excalating in difficulty, or like the prospect of surrendering early to both avoid casualties and to make sure you can actually fit this campaign in four weekends. Oh and it's the Battle of Stalingrad from WW2, so expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZT-wVnFn60
but with cooler(?) guns and tanks.

>>97561812
Isnt there a way to play Space 4X where you resolve battles using Talon?

>>97561812
That’s the realm of Monster Wargames, like really autistic stuff such as World in Flames. MMP’s Grand Tactical Series is probably closer to what you’re looking for, there’s probably others but I don’t play that genre outside of OCS because ain’t nobody got time for that.

>>97561859
Tanto Cuore is the closest game to Dominion I can point you to, where you're evaluating a fixed card pool to determine what to pursue.
You might also like Thunderstone or Heart of Crown. They have the same thing going on but not every card in the pool is in the market at the same time.

I've never looked into the Marvel deck builder. I think it's a co-op and that doesn't appeal to me.

>>97561859
Honorable mentions, way too similar to Dominion to stand out: Tanto Cuore, arguably Heart of Crown
Good Dominion-likes that mix up the win condition: Barba*rossa, Puzzle Strike 1, Arctic Scavengers
Not really the same as Dominion but still good deckbuilders: Valley of the Kings, Dale of Merchants, Puzzle Strike 2, arguably Clank and it's variants.
Dishonorable mentions: Ascension, Star/Hero Realms. I just don't like what they end up as, random slopfests.

>>97561808
It's crazy how we're like a year behind the US with some releases in cunuckland. I know your pain

>>97561927
>>97561942
Will take a look at all these for sure

>>97561927
>I've never looked into the Marvel deck builder. I think it's a co-op and that doesn't appeal to me.
The only thing I didn't like about dominion is there was no interaction between players. Maybe we'll choose a different set of cards for the next game, we got only one attack card

>>97561783
>which 2026 releases are you most excited for?

I think bear trap might not suck.
it shows signs of not sucking.

>>97561963
>The only thing I didn't like about dominion is there was no interaction between players.
I will also call out Dale of Merchants as a good game to consider then. How interactive the game will be is setup dependent but the game tells you what suits to include for what you're looking for in the gameplay.

>>97561942
>Ascension
In a world where Clank! exists there is no reason to recommend Ascension.

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>>97561824
Design peices to practice.
Assembly comes later.

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>>97561858
Want to collaborate?

>>97562012
>In a world where Clank! exists there is no reason to recommend Ascension.
yes that's why it's in the dishonorable mentions aka "i didn't like them so i don't recommend these games".

>>97561859
Unironicaly:
Trains (2016 AEG)
It's a dominion-like engine used to fill a map instead of just manipulating your deck.

Or Ascension, if you are a masochist who hates real choice, until you find the only strategy that works.

>>97562078
Fml 2012*

>>97561942
The micro-river-draft with flush mechanisms is why it's a slopfest, compared to a set market.
You end up simply doing what you get enabled to do, with little choice involved.

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>>97561834
>I don't have enough imagination to design something

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>>97562159
Based supportive anon.
Never sell yourselves short, /bgg/

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Reminder that Black Friday is the best stock market board game

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>>97562159
True

>>97562280
Me rubbing hands on the right

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>>97562280
>german, english, and americish
>no hebrew translation
Oy vey!

>>97562337
Yes, it is true that you are false.
You can do it.

>>97562388
I won't do it and I have no interest in doing it. If I ever manage to create something (I won't) it's going to be some written story

>>97561783
>>which 2026 releases are you most excited for?
New neuroshima hex anniversary box or the T&E
>>how is work on your design coming along?
I randomly got inspired for a new 2 player abstract game. I know that genre is drained, but I still want to see my project fulfilled and maybe try it with my friends and family
>>best game to close out a 4-player game night?
Diamant, through the desert

>>97562280
I've only ever played this on Yucata and the pace of async play plus the lack of a useful game log made it impossible to keep track of what was going on. I was not a fan of it but I would still be willing to give this a try in person or on tabletop simulator.

>>97562414
Sounds good, that's how Tak was made.
The author just described it vaugely, and some designer gave him the rules after he published. COLLABORATION!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Te0Wm_GCCAQ

Played two 3p games of heart of crown and one of roll for the galaxy. Heart is great, we're had one game that punished hands of 5 and the other filled with trash and curses. Random market no expansions. Both games were pretty clutch with no clear leader or best strategy, but it loses a star for player(s) having to sit out once 20 is broken.

*you heard me military is too OP for race to be good

Okay zoo vadis is pretty great, thanks for the recommendations, anons.

>>97562584
>but it loses a star for player(s) having to sit out once 20 is broken.
That's a glorified tie-breaker anon. If you weren't sitting out you still wouldn't be in the running, you would just be slowing the game down for the people who were neck and neck.

>>97562584
>*you heard me military is too OP for race to be good
I didn't hear you. Your footnote attached to nothing is the first place you mention this. Also, skill issue. If I see you're going military and I spam developments the game will end before you get your payoff.

Looking forward to Agricola dead harvest. Two of my favourite themes in one game.

>>97561859
Im curious. What you didnt like about Star Wars the deckbuilding game? Which base box and/or expansion have you played?
Also would love to hear which elements of Dominion you liked which you felt SWtDG is lacking of?

>>97561859
Expansions for Dominion, Adventures onwards takes a huge dump over all the competitors anyway

I played T&E for the first time. In some ways, it feels very un-Knizian: It's kind of heavy and it isn't very intuitive (e.g. the difference between starting a fight by placing a leader and starting a fight by placing a tile didn't make sense to the other players on the first explanation). That said, it does feel like "Knizia makes a heavy game" insofar as it avoids being multiple-paths-to-victory-slop or MPS-slop. I intend to play it again next week.

>>97563317
>it avoids being multiple-paths-to-victory-slop
I'm not sure at what point you qualify something as slop, but Tigris and Euphrates does have multiple ways to score points that are at odds with one another.

>>97562654
>and I spam developments the game will end before you get your payoff.
which is why roll is better, race might as well be root

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>>97561783
>which 2026 releases are you most excited for?
The Spanish version of the Ahoy expansions.
>how is work on your design coming along?
Horribly. I added too much to a thing that used to be fun and now it's no longer fun but the things are so cleverly designed that I don't want to cull them and I'm not good enough to streamline em.
>best game to close out a 4-player game night?
Chudyk's Red7

>>97563585
The game is bad because there's counter-play? Development spam loses to things too. Or do you just want a multiplayer solitaire slot machine?

>>97561783
Lands of Evershade and BOTSE expansions

Maybe Avalon?

There's a few others, I guess if you're American like I am, an ACTUAL release for old kings crown?

>>97562517
Maybe im just retarded but this also happens to me in BGA. The fact i cannot "see" the movements of other players makes it confusing, thats why i just use Tabletop Simulator to play Black Friday and other board games.

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>>97563827
Most games on Yucata have animations when things happen and you can watch a replay through the log, but Black Friday is one of their older games and it doesn't have any of that shit. The only way to track what's going on is to hover your mouse over a footprint icon in each player's area to get a brief summary of the last thing that player did.

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Any one play poker here? The old guys at my work are always playing it and it looks more like something to keep your hands busy. Is it fun? I guess it's stuck around for a reason. I wouldn't like playing for money.

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I'm pivoting my collection to light-medium-family weight games pretty well. What game would you put at >??? ?

> <2.8 complexity
> No area control
> Not too much direct confrontation / where politics and kingmaking are significant part of the game
> Preferably not dry looking

Games I've been considering
> Aquatica
> Kingsburg
> The Search for Planet X
> Takenoko
> Alhambra

I also considered Dominion, but I already culled it previously because it grinded to a halt at 4 players and Big Money became predominant meta in my group, making me not want to play it anymore.

Regarding heavier games, maybe even Dune Imperium: Uprising, but I already traded away D:I + Rise of Ix because I really disliked the part where one battle goes wrong due to random intrigue can literally ruin your whole game, and I find Tyrants of the Underdark better. Revive is also another decent heavier one, but it looks so ugly and it's not colorblind friendly.

>>97564082
> The Search for Planet X
I prefer The Search for Lost Species but I think both are good games.
> Kingsburg
I've only played this once and I remember it mostly played itself. There where a few very interesting decisions but most of the time there was either an obvious decision or a "decision" forced by a lack of options.
I would play it again but I don't see myself buying it.

>>97563857
Poker is long term odds and communication. Texas hold em is "the best" because there is a lot of information in the shared cards. Five card stud is the purest. Poker is not about getting the best hand it's about getting the better of your opponents. A high hand is no good if everyone folds. Don't learn from the old guys buy a video game or something. I grew up playing penny ante in every flavor but I don't look for games, it's just not that good if you're not taking people's actual money.

What to get from the Game Crafter? Cmon chads

>>97561859
Barbarossa and El alamein (anime version) are the best the genre has to offer

Thoughts about Caverna? I am a big fan of Agricola and i play it with my husband. There are a couple of problems with it though.

The cards are a bit much. The game begins with this overload of info, you need to internalize 14 cards and formulate some sort of strategy. So you do the setup and then spend 10 minutes just looking at the cards in silence.

That, combined with the cutthroat tightness and high tension of the game, can lead to some miserable feeling games at times. I love it but I get that not everyone is like that.

Anyone got both games in their collection and feel like it is worth it to have both? Or should I get something like A feast for Odin instead?

>>97564960
>you need to internalize 14 cards and formulate some sort of strategy. So you do the setup and then spend 10 minutes just looking at the cards in silence.
That's not the correct way to play. The correct way is to draft your cards, pick one from the 14 then pass them along to the next player, get the 13 from the previous player, and take one again, and so on.
Caverna weaves this draft into the main game since cave buildings are limited (there's 1 of each outside of a few basic ones) and the cool ones offer unique benefits. This doesn't make the game less cutthroat, and arguably frontloads even more "just looking at" the tiles, but it does smoothe out some parts of the experience imho.

AffO is a whole different beast and you get it only if you want Tetris on crack cocaine with a side of gambling for the good occupation cards

>>97565042
I agree that drafting improves Agricola. Drafting sort of sucks though when playing with two players only. The draft also increases the number of cards you must evaluate before the game even begins, and that is what some players dislike.

Caverna has pretty much the same setup every time, so after a couple of games, the buildings will become more familiar so the information overload aspect might become less intense after a few games.

I suspect the game might lose a bit of that novelty and excitement when it comes to replay value, because of the static setup.

I think I might pick that shit up, since my husband seems interested in it as well.

>>97561824
>>97561834
Interesting, I always assumed the vast part of bg enthusiasts sit around like me, having a million ideas but too little time/discipline/focus to actually do something with it

>>97565421
It's easy to say "X would be interesting" or "Y would be better if it had Z" but a lot of those ideas are bad and unless you're actually designing them you're not a designer you're just an ideas guy. Designers have ideas too so ideas guys do not have an ecological niche.

>>97563857
yea poker's a lot of fun, especially if you get good at it. in the early 2000s it was a craze, everyone was playing it. get the small box game The Gang if you want to get good at poker. it's cooperative and teaches new players how to play, yet it allows the seasoned poker players to show off their knowledge and is fun for them too.

>>97563042
I got both boxes. It's not that I didn't like it, it's just not my type of game. I feel it's more a card grabbing deck. Like there's not a lot of strategy behind it, whereas in dominion you need to adapt to the cards you play with (i.e. if there are no card elimination actions you'd have to go for a lot of draw engines). Just my opinion after a couple of dominion games tho

Finally got to play Kemet for the first time last night, shits a banger

Kemet, Cyclades, and Inis are all kind of peak.

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>>97564960
>and i play it with my husband

>>97564960
wait you're a fan of agricola and you don't like the cutthroat nature of caverna? what the literal fuck? also caverna is not tight, it's "agricola but there are half a dozen ways to win". in caverna everything is viable and you only get BTFO out of the ideal placement (which you shouldn't have gotten attached to in the first place). I'm seriously wondering if we're talking about the same game.

>>97565601
3 apple criticizing 1 apple for being dum

>>97561834
a 5 in the wild!

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>>97562035
>>97562045
pieces first is a puzzle not a board game

>>97566278
man I wish I were gay, if I were gay there would always be 3 for boardgames

>>97565421
I got the opposite problem: have a game idea that my brain won't let go of even if i understand that no matter how i execute the idea it'll suck to play due to how fiddly it is. And because of this idea no new ones show up in my brain.

>>97566474
>>97565421
I don't have either problem I have a great game that has a shitty theme that I want to retheme and produce.

>>97566359
What is this meeple from? It's hilarious

>>97566276
Kemet slaps

>>97561859
Legendary is really nice. Marvel Legendary is the most well known with like a bajillion expansions and it can be played competitive or cooperative. Legendary Encounters Alien is more story-driven and is co-op only and super hard. Legendary Game of Thrones just came out and its pvp only.

What's the best push your luck game?
Quacks (of Quedlinburg), Diamant/Incan Gold, Deep Sea Adventure, Clank!, MLEM, Can't Stop, Heat, Flip 7, Mystic Vale, Port Royal, Living Forest, Sub Terra, Escape, other?

someone's been pushing Diamant a lot lately - can you explain why it's so good?

>>97562045
Have you ever though that Sakura Arm's biggest problem is the lack of anime boys

>>97567684
Play diamant/incan gold on bga. It's mostly just an opener/filler game. And it's fun to call your friends names when they leave the temple earlier than you.

>>97566318
I see now that my message was unclear. Sorry about that. I am a fan of agricola, but my husband finds the game to be a bit too tense and cutthroat, but the main issue is the cards being too much.

And I am wondering if Caverna would be better in that regard. I haven't tried Caverna (yet) but I think I will try to get my hands on a copy soon.

>>97566278
You are just jealous. Being a gamer and gay is great in more ways than one.

>>97567684
>Quacks (of Quedlinburg), Diamant/Incan Gold, Deep Sea Adventure, Clank!, MLEM, Can't Stop, Heat, Flip 7, Mystic Vale, Port Royal, Living Forest, Sub Terra, Escape, other?

>Heat or Flamme Rouge
>Living Forest, Port Royal, Mlem
>POWERGAP
>Diamant, Quacks,
>Can't stop, flip 7
>POWERGAP
Everything else.

However, the best push your luck game is Reiner Knizia's Ra.

>>97567684
As a resident Diamant shill, I think it does so many things well other push your luck games kinda fail. It plays a lot of players and scales super well (3p is no longer than 7p), it is exceedingly quickly amd even for the short periods you are not directly involved, you have a lot of fun at the spectacle. But I think what's most important is that it has a really good agency:randomness ratio. Decisions are weighty and fun (especially with the relics, great edition to the game from the idk, 3rd or so edition on?) and sometimes obscene greed gets rewarded, sometimes you heroically fail. Just the right mix to want to keep gambling. It's also set up and torn down extremely quickly and the components are nice. I mean, does it replace strategy boardgames? Fuck no, it is a party game through and through and you have to be ok with the fact that it's very random, but that's also what makes it fun. I realize I've written a lot about it without really saying something, so I guess the summary is that it behaves like a good gambling game; it feels like you're always one round away from making it big, but in this case failure (and the failure of others) is fun.
As for the others:
>MLEM
Found it just OK but it doesn't really count because it was only on bga
>Can't Stop
No idea why this is so popular. Way too long for what it is.
>Heat
Not really something I'd call push your luck
>Flip 7
Thinly disuised gambling. So very little agency it doesn't really work for me.
>Port Royal
Also excellent. Doesn't play as many and a little long, but it one of the best. Skill does really matter here
>Escape
If you mean escape curse of the temple, fuck that game. Not even half a game before the gimmick gets old.

I also think that Ra can at least be partly considered push your luck and it is extremely good.

>>97567684
spots desu

>>97568093
yes in that case, caverna is what you're looking for. I also hate agricola but it's because I find it unfun to have to feed everyone and it feels like you don't get to do anything else. in caverna there is always a different choice, always a way to further your game including going adventuring. everything you occupy yourself with is helpful to your endgame, you're not shitting the bed because you went to get coal and not a second pig, but a second pig is good too. the one concern I might have for your husband is analysis paralysis as there are many very similar choices to be made throughout the game and there are many room tiles (although you only have to learn them once) you still always need more things than you can get every round.

you might consider castles of burgundy as an alternative. I for one wish I was gay because I'd glady bring my copy of caverna and we could do threesomes.

>>97565910
I'm not trying to change your opinion, I accept your point of view although I think you missed that the game offers multiple tactical or strategic options. Just by choosing your base gives you a strategic advantage till it is in play. Attacking the opponent faction in the market row both gives you resources and you deny powerful cards from your opponent. You start with a modest deck and you can build your engine with either your faction, neutral or with outer rim pilots. With optional rules you can buy neutral cards just to discard them. The cards you gain can create a powerful engine, some cards allow you to remove cards from your deck. I think all these can create enough depth and replayability. Not a flashy game with overpowered card combinations however it isnt that boring either. Check out Shards of Infinity or Gosu X as well, who knows you might like those more. Also Epic card game is fun tactical card game with shared deck and no market row.

>>97567684
Clank! because it's not a push your luck at all. I own flip 7, can't stop and bang! the dice game. I'd add no thanks, fuji flush, bang! and for sale to your list. yatzee and sorry! also come to mind.

games that aren't push your luck but are better are 6nimmt/Take 5 and the quest for el dorado. Those two and fuji flush for big groups (6+). why? because there are actual decisions not just roll and pray.

>>97565910
dominion is garbage because there is only one strategy and you'll soon see that if you're not a brainlet, then it gets very boring because any given market is predictable and it becomes simply rng who buys it faster/more. nothing you do, no expansion I've ever seen changes this.

>>97563042
idk about SWtDG but star realms and Clank! both suffer from the market wagging the game. literally the market flop dictates your game and strategy is just a distant influence.

>>97561859
really good deckbuilder closer to dominion is heart of crown. like Clank! (which I like despite the market rng) you have more to do than just deckbuild, unlike dominion the market is varied. The other one is arctic scavengers which is one of my top all time games. if "it's a deckbuilder but you get to pitfight each other" doesn't get your clit hard then you should stick to dominion.

Boardgames for your dog going to die in the next few days?

>>97568831
Wow damn anon I'm sorry for your loss. I don't have a board game for you, just sympathy.

>>97568843
>I don't have a board game for you,
Fitting since tomorrow it's board game night and I'll skip it to hear the vet saying she's going into kidney failure

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>>97568831
someone add "owning a dog" to the push your luck list

>>97568831
>>97568876
that's a bummer. you know outside of a dog, boardgames are a man's best friend. [inside a dog it's too dark to see the dice]

>>97568093
>Being a gamer and gay is great in more ways than one.
How so?

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>>97568831

>>97568831
Fetch, lots of pets and affection: The board game
No but really, sorry to hear about your upcoming loss if you ain't memeing around.

>>97569020
Not memeing she has a bladder cancer and in the past few days has been pissing straight blood red with strong ammonia odour, also no longer eating and has trouble walking which means the kidneys are starting to give up

Mille Fiori is twice the game Root is.

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>>97566359
Thats a bit of a difference that melts away after a short period.

Games need puzzles, and puzzles need games.

You didn't say no.

>>97566375
I don't understand

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>>97566474
Bounce it off someone, maybe you'll find a solution!

>>97567719
I hadn't, but you could just Imagine the anime girls are just anime (fem)boys

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>>97568093
>agricola
>tense and cutthroat
Your husband is a fragile flower.

>>97569421
Just like in 20% of 2hu porn!

>>97569435
Based cavalrychargesxfailure boomer

>>97569312
root is dogshit tho

>>97569396
I don't do "chess but..." you can't make something bad better with paint.

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>>97569541
Chess?

I know that abstract games are, by design, more balanced and mechanically robust than thematic games. And yet I could not give less of a shit about abstracts. I'm not a theme first faggot, but even the most paperthin of excuses for a theme gets my noggin joggin way more than "get these shapes in the right form while your opponent tries the same, loser is a faggot"

>>97569778
There's plenty of abstracts with theme, some more than your average euro tbqh

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>>97569778
Yes. It was my attempt to make abstracts more appealing to myself. I failed too.

>>97567684
>push your luck
Infiltration (FFG)
Spots
Rallyman GT / Dirt

>>97567684
>Diamant/Incan Gold
Good filler.
>Deep Sea Adventure
OK filler.
>Clank!
I am hesitant to call Clank! a push your luck game. It rewards you for assessing risks and punishes you for being greedy.
Luck helps, but if your plan is to get lucky you're going to lose.
>MLEM
A bit long for what it is.
>Can't Stop
I like Can't Stop but I stopped playing it when I got Claim It!
>Heat
It's not my cup of tea but it is a good game.
>Flip 7
A bit long for what it is and 20 minutes is an accurate play time.
>Port Royal
Excellent filler.
>other?
Ra is more an auction game than a push your luck game, but it is both and it is very good.
EGO is more a push your luck game than an auction game, but it is both. I've played it 4 times and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. It's interesting.
No Thanks! should go without saying.

>>97568144
>>Heat
>Not really something I'd call push your luck
Heat is basically a push your luck game with managing heat cards in your deck. What else would you call it?

>>97570651
Ave Ceasar is a push your luck game with trying to avoif the outaude edgrs
Robo Rally is a push your luck game with soul-reading your opponents
Wander Towers is a push your luck game witb guessing where the wizard you lost track of went

>>97567684
The answer is Coloretto.

>>97568563
>dominion is garbage because there is only one strategy
is it possible that you form a blunt opinion without properly understand what you are saying and classify it superior? While I like heart of crown 2e better I wouldn't dare to say dominion has only one strategy, regardless of the market.

>>97570651
A racing game. And hand management. I'm not denying that push your luck is involved, but its not the main mechanic.

>>97570705
Ah fugg I forgot about coloretto as well. Really good game

>>97570726
I haven't been a defender of Dominion despite liking it because it has its flaws, but I've come to realize that people hating on dominion because big money exists should largely be ignored. Not because big money is shit but because it is the 'deck to beat' forcing you to play more efficiently. If you like to play dominion more freeform and do 5 minute village combo turns going nowhere I kind of get that, but that is akin to disliking chess because making a cock pattern with your pawns doesn't make it easier for you to win

>>97570894
People hate dominion because we've all played too much of it. The bar is so low that it destroys groups for years at a time

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favorite psychedelic board games?

The Mushroom Eaters being the ultimate example that you'll never see for less than $500 again

>>97571686
Cosmic frog

>>97571686
Magical Athlete

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Who wore it best?

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>>97561834
Is there actually a pax ren reprint coming? Or is this just a meme?

>>97568563
>dominion has only one strategy
retard alert

>>97568831
Sorry bro, no recs here, just pet the dog and comfort it on it's way out. All dogs go to heaven.

>>97568831
Wok and Roll :^

>>97569114
Sorry anon, our last pupper got that too. One of the worst ways to lose a beloved pet/family member

>>97572148
Yeah this morning was pretty grim, we have an appointment with the vet at 7 probably he's going to propose euthanasia either already today or tomorrow. Really not looking forward to the seizures and blindness so I guess the choice has already been made. At least today it's a nice sunny day

>>97566375
I require an explanation.

>>97571686
Katalyka, if you are one of the few people who actually got it

>>97572294
Shit, anon... this game has just sent me down a crazy rabbit hole
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1820893788/katalyka/posts/3953979?

>someone learns about the sun telling a lady to not release her game
Always fun to see new people get into the real history of the hobby

>>97572804
Anywhere I can read about this? I'm super interested in DEEP LORE.

>>97572855
A schizophrenic woman started a kickstarter for a boardgame, like many kickstarter projects she miscalculated the actual cost of producing snd distributing the game. Unlike many projects, she lost access to healthcare and thus, went off her meds. The Sun didn't ask her, the Sun psychicly attacked her, because it's racist.

>>97572855
Yeah it's interesting, an almost terry davis esque overlap of absolute hilarity and tragedy. There really isn't anything about it out there aside from bgg threads and the ks page

>>97572494
Damn, it got seamlessly off the rail really fast

>>97572955
The hilarious part is, I think she was hand making all components??? But her printer couldn't handle the thickness of paper. So she used all the kickstarter money on a new printer and "expensive ink"????

>>97573207
>Honey I'm sorry, I blew our savings on an industrial sized printer so I can finally handprint copies of my schizo boardgame
Wife material

>>97573695
it's all fun and games until your 3yo in a baby-bungie rig gets hold of a container of high concentration industrial solvent

t the 3yo

>>97573920
Clearly it gave you enhanced mutant intelligence so it couldn't have been all bad.

>>97572183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

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No way anyone ever would guess this one, so

>>97575149
>Size: GMT standard box · 12.20 x 9.20 x 2.10 inches or 31.0 x 23.4 x 5.3 cm
Given the dimensions and recent discussion my guess is there's a copy of Incan Gold inside.

>>97575149
>>97575186
without having unspoilered it, just going off the post below that it's a GMT game.....
i'm going to guess.....
Seas of Thunder?
you have to suck my dick if i'm right

>>97575149
the real question is: are you running this solo or with humans

>>97575273
well I'm sure as fuck not playing it solo

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>>97570118
It's one of those things that I know certain people like it more than I do and that's motivating enough to not just drop an idea that I think is interesting.
In fact it's kind of nice having a bit of detachment as it lets you be more willing to break and rearrange it.
I threw together a little shitter as a half joke and after cleaning it up it won a local design contest.

>>97566474
I'm prone to delusions about how components I dislike could be better. What have you got?

>>97562504
>>>which 2026 releases are you most excited for?
>New neuroshima hex anniversary box or the T&E
There's a *NEW* Anniversary box coming out?!? Those Motherfuckers! They came out with a box like that not that long ago.

>>97566474
man I FINALLY made peace with one these designs I've been dragging through 5.5 different prototypes and it's been pure bliss
the worst part wasn't so much the repeated running into a wall
it was the weird amnesia that - in spite all the note taking - I would somehow always seem to think "huh maybe that would work" only to forget no I had already figured it out it didn't work why did you think this time it would?

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Shaking my damn head - Steve Jackson's "Munchkin 2nd Edition KS". I get that it's a huge money maker for them. But I'm also sad that after all this time it's still a huge money maker as Munchkin goes stale faster than an unwrapped saltine cracker in the jungle. Considering the KS has over 7,500+ backers and nearly $350K in funding, obviously a lot of more experienced gamers failed to warn less knowledgeable gamers. As much as I enjoyed short games of Munchkin when I was a complete noob, it didn't take long to realize that its play pattern was boringly predictable (i.e. player in 2nd place typically wins), and that at 4 or more players the game routinely outstayed it's welcome. Hell, Cutthroat Caverns is a far better 'take that' style game, and far fewer players are familiar with it. Apparently we dun goofed game bros...

>>97575511
What do you expect, they're polish

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Best "take that!" games?

>>97575704
Sex

>>97575452
This looks interesting, what's going on here?
>>97575519
LOL I know that all too well. Good on you anon.

>>97575585
>SJ games consent
>backers consent
>isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

Name a better pick up and deliver game than Aegean Sea.

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>>97575704
Cutthroat Caverns

>>97575876
> "consent"
Not "informed consent". Because ignorance =/= bliss.

>>97576194
No anon was insinuating that you're Jesus
It went right over your head

Are there any board games that eloquently handle letting the player deal with fractional numbers or rounding them, rather than just making everything whole numbers?

>>97575728
Sounds neat, how do you play?

>>97576977
>Eloquently
What?

But I'd assume almost all stock games with dividends give you small rounding exercises

>>97575728
>When she starts arguing the best players count is 3

>>97577105
I've always thought 5 was the best player count.
Now I'm not so certain...

>>97577031
mostly solo

>>97561783
>which 2026 releases are you most excited for?
T&E reprint
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation reprint
Camp Grizzly reprint

does anyone have a player in your group who ALWAYS wins?
i've never cared that much about winning, it's just about having a good time.....but damn it gets old after a while.
she's 9/10 luck, 9/10 intelligence. she spends a little too much time mathing things out on her turns sometimes, but this isn't really a problem. occasionally i'll ask her to speed it up, but it's not a regular problem. she's fun, funny, enjoyable to be around. there's no way we're not inviting her. but other people in the group definitely get fed up with always losing. kind of puts a damper on game night.
she's also very competitive (again, not to a degree that isn't socially acceptable).
when i'm playing with people way below my skill level, i fuck around more. try different strategies. handicap myself in some way (that isn't obvious). i guess i need to have a conversation and try to get her to do this.....but her competitiveness might now allow that.
any suggestions? i don't know that there's an answer. Tonya Harding her in the brain?

got away from party games for a while.
played Magical Athlete and PitchCar for the first time this weekend. very fun time, highly recommended.
is PitchCar worth $110 to import into the US? maybe not with just the base game. but for someone who has a 3d printer and can then print all the expansions? absolutely worth it

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>>97577392
>maybe not with just the base game.
From what I've heard the first expansion is the only must-have.

>>97577371
We play mostly 6 player games, so there's noone that wins all the time, but there are two people who combined take over 50% of the wins. One of them has a serious case of beginner's luck. First game of something, dude is almost always going to win.

Anyways, regarding your woman problem. A few suggestions:
>introduce alcohol to game nights
>get gud
>replace her
>replace the whiny losers

I've had a couple of people in my group over the years who simply did not pay attention while playing. Guaranteed last place every single time type of players. One was kicked from the group, the other stopped coming on his own. Now we still have some disparity in the group, but nothing as extreme as one player dominating most games.

>>97576977
how would you have a fractional number of warriors?
technically some games like Mage Knight and Sidereal Confluence do let you deal in halves but it's mostly just doubling but in reverse.

>>97577371
play team games like guards of atlantis

>>97577371
Play games she's not good at. No one is amazing at every game

>>97578082
Watch her then lead her team to the W every game.
One player in my guards group has, after 40+ games, an 84% win rate. It feels bad to be on the opposing team. You cant even focus him, as that allows the rest of the team to farm, and if you whiff the kill or keeping him off of income, youve only made the situation worse.
Weve since had games without him on the side, and it been a breath of fresh air.

>>97577371
Eh, I got someone who is obscenely good at games. Like #1 AffO/Rftg etc player on bga. Generally I feel we play at a pretty high level, but man do we get shafted by him. Which is a good metric (a) to differentiate if a game is fun in general or just when you're winning and (b) how much skill matters. Like he'll obviously not win everytime in Ti, but he owns us at eclipse.

I do think this has an impact on overall enjoyment because games are most fun if everyone is on roughly equal footing, but as said, this makes it easier to see which games are fun. Either invest more resources if you like the challenge or accept that you are worse and still try do your best.

As an aside, I feel like I have gotten significantly worse at games since having children. I feel like my brain has restructured to better deal with multitasking and juggle three things at once under time pressure, but planning a few turns ahead is much more draining than it used to be.

And lastly,
>losing against a girl

>>97577371
you could do 1 vs everyone games like Tragedy Looper or Specter Ops, or just subtly try to fuck her plans over in FFA games even if it ensures you lose

>>97577371
Mating press

What are some complicated but fun games?
I heard Gloomhaven and Mage Knight are complex but fun
Any others like those?

>>97561812
sounds like magic realm and warlord of mars

>>97578487
I think you'd really like connect 4

does anyone have fate of the fellowship and can they post a picture of the effect text of each event card?

>>97576977
absolute magnitude is often less important than relative scale

>>97561783
>tq
focused on my backlog
slow since i have three versions and only one friend willing to playtest
pax renaissance

>>97578675
Thanks

>>97578487
Well, why don't you try them and report back? Or give some indication about what you're looking for?

>>97578487
>What are some complicated but fun games?
they don't exist. i'll save you a few years, just get into Reiner Knizia games now.

>>97579073
>they don't exist
If you're retarded.

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>>97579083
maybe he's a gigabrain 5head

>>97579083
I N E L E G A N T

>>97578487
The Campaign for North Africa

Best horror themed games?

>>97578487
For-ex

>>97579228
A Study In Emerald
Inhuman Conditions

>>97579228
Molly House

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>>97579228
.

>>97578487
18XX series are complicated and with the right crowd they can be fun.

>>97579228
Unfathomable
Stifling Dark
Abomination with the rules that make it shorter
Dead By Deadlight the board game
The Others

>>97579281
lol tiger leader was great, howve you enjoyed the lovecraft variant?

>>97578487
Have any fun games came out?

I really love the dungeoneer series and was wondering if there are similar dungeon crawlers?

>see interesting crowdfunding campaign
>Hmmm I wonder if there's a ruleb-
>Susd preview on top
>Immediately unfollow
It's gotten that bad for me, their tainted presence is almost a red flag in itself

>>97580080
cant argue if the heuristic has served you well, but id evaluate the game on its own merits

>>97580080
does it correlate to anything or is it just blind hatred?
i think they generally have good taste, but they're also more social than most 4chan users and the games they like reflect that

>>97580110
Used to really like them when it was just quinns and paul. I thought it was just nostalgia and hipsterdom, but going back to these first longform videos made me realize what I was more and more missing was actual enthusiasm for boardgames.
Never really liked their taste, but at least I could vaguely tell if I'd like the game from their review. Nowadays whenever I stumble across them it's all faux smiles, youtube algorithm appeasement and video editing tricks. I find the jab at anons being recluses tiring. A lot of games they recommended seem like utter garbage to me and I assume they've played them like 2-3 times max before filming the video.

>>97561887
yes, but each battle would take hours

I envy those who are just getting into the hobby. They can just look up a list of good games, they can just go into a game blind because they don't know that the designer is a hack, etc.... Not yet jaded. They can sit down in front of whatever and play it with their friends...

>>97580439
I know what you mean, but what you are missing most is likely the excitement that comes with exploring a whole new hobby. I feel the same about pretty much all hobbies; that certain elitism you develop over the years also has its merits; it opens up a different kind of fun, a more cerebral kind of enjoyment. Maybe the interplay of mechanics you thought impossible to combine, maybe the smoothness of a design, maybe the moment of realisation how that minuscle rule changes everything. You know what I mean. You don't get the raw "everything is awesome" high anymore, sure, but you get to grow in a different direction.

>>97579257
I did not have fun playing Cthulhu: Dark Providence

>>97575868
I don't remember the original rules but effectively color determines which rank you can place adjacent to it (blue <, pink >) with the goal of creating dead zones with no legal placement (can't place on the X as there's no 0 rank)
Add in some shenanigans of certain ranks allowed to be =, a dummy neutral piece, and a joke named called 'zodo', I didn't think too much about it.
Then we had our monthly design coming up and I figured why not, and it evolved from there. Was kind of weird seeing Toy Battle get released a few months later, not quite the same but its what everyone kept asking if it was inspired from

>>97580609
7* rank, i still get the colors and dem alligators mixed up

>>97580296
A lot of their classics are /bgg/core: Ra, GWT, Inis, Eclipse, Hansa Teutonica, T&E, Kemet, etc
You know, the stuff that gets mentioned here every day

I can't get into BGA. I can see the appeal of having board games on your phone and taking turns at your leisure, but a game of Azul last a week minimum and I just stop caring about it by the end. Games like Mahjong or Heat must take a month minimum. Imagine playing something quick and reactionary like Exploding Kittens while having to wait 24 hours for a guy to decide whether to block your card. Decent for ripping assets from though.

>>97580738
I didn't know you could rip assets from bga, actually...

>>97580751
They're usually low-res, like 1024 px (except maps which can get pretty large if you're lucky). So it's better than nothing, but sometimes good enough to replace shitty TTS scans.

>>97580544
Me neither, but my friend teaching it completely shit himself, so I'm trying to keep an open mind.

>>97580296
Basically this. Now they review garbage that is never going to last for more than 4 games. That is what the people want though, at my local board games club there is an avalanche of euroslop that gets played 2-3 times max a year

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I've never thrown out an insert and replaced with a system beyond baging things, so this was new to me.
I'm happy with how this turned out. Fits the more recent hero packs too whose trays wouldn't go into the core box without serious lid lift. There miiiight be room for a future hero pack, but if Arty goes for a double barreled release I am cooked.

>>97580080
so they paid a bunch of marketing money for the most recognizable faces in board gaming to discuss their game
why does this make the game itself bad?

Retards in this hobby still don't understand that you need to find a reviewer with taste that matches yours.
>wow this guy who likes silly games did not enjoy my favorite game about managing taxes during the golden age of bolivian potato harvest he is not a good reviewer

Modern Art fucking sssucks
I get why a lot of knizias designs get their deserved praise, but holy shit MA just sucks.
I'd rather play for sale

>>97581526
Retards in this hobby still don't understand that listening to any reviewer is a waste of time.

>>97581617
You're either a consoomer or someone who thinks can gauge a game just by reading the rulebook. Either way, a retard in this hobby.

>>97581548
>Modern Art fucking sssucks
I did warn you.

>>97581623
>haven't watched a video from some annoying faggot or read an Annoying Faggot (TM) review for nigh on 10 games
>number of duds bought can be counted on one hand
Actually, hanging out on /bgg/ and checking gulag ratings and comments can be more than enough.

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Neptune

>>97581748
>nigh on 10 games
10 years*

BGA is only good for quick 2-player games.

>>97581548
Sounds like someone got their ass kicked at the auction booth! It's not for everyone, that's okay too.

>>97582116
And even then, it's bad.

>>97582268
It's ok imo, I have a job where I sit at an office with no supervision all day and it's useful. Pick a short game like Toy Battle or Hanamikoji with max turn speed enabled (so you filter out slowpokes).

>>97581748
>hanging out on /bgg/ and checking gulag ratings and comments
so you do look at reviews by annoying faggots, you just lie to yourself about it because the annoying faggots match your taste.

>>97582279
>Hanamikoji
good choice, love that little game. takes 5 minutes to play and is fun battle of wits. also has a lot of expansion tiles that you can just print off.

>>97581526
Not true,. Svwags bign(e?)y likes a lot of games I don't but he manages to articulate why and what he likes about them as well analyzing what flaws a game has. This is good reviewing. Susds style, incomparison, can be summed up in one quote: "It's just fun!"

>>97581548
Huh, whatdid you not like about it? I think it's one of his best designs>>97581548

>>97582353
Ten bucks says he overpaid on paintings and gave all his money to one guy and then wonders why he lost. That or he doesn't know how to calculate the potential value of a painting and know when he's overbidding.

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All right, anon, here's how it's going to go. I'm going to put up this Lite Metal double auction (fixed price). You're going to buy it. Why? Because you don't know what you're doing, and I do. You don't need to understand, just listen. You're going to settle for second place. You're going to sell that Yoko you have for under its estimated Expected Value (not that you know what that is). If you don't do as I say, your entire portfolio will be worthless on my next turn. Or, you can make some money here and now. Your move.

>>97581623
Wrong on both accounts nigger.

>>97582455
Nta

An aside:
I know you're just ironicaly summarizing the scenario in a humorous story, but games don't actually teach their solutions to players. Players bumble around for quite a long time and multiple sessions, if they don't outright look up guides online.

Auctions and bidding are even more esoteric because it's just gambling and mindgames with 2-3 layers. Are you surprised that it is and remains obscure to autists? They can't even negotiate to begin with and you want them to negotiate on a completely unstable surface.

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>>97582545
It's just pic related (what I used to convince my friends to play it).

>>97582545
I used to think I was autistic until I played Auction games with people in a meetup.
Holy shit dude.

And let's not even get into that time I played Decrypto with them. They are surprisingly good at sussing out liars in Avalon though.

I suck at Cacao.

>>97582620
Me too
Want to drink frothy coacoa beverages over it?

>>97581526
Nah, I like shelfside's reviews even if I usually like different games

>>97582642
Enjoying a reviewer's reviews =/= trusting their opinion to make an informed purchase
I can watch the susd manlet review wherleslop because it's always enjoyable to see someone talk about something they're passionate about, that doesn't mean I'm gonna go buy Oath for my group

>>97582791
Yeah but late era susd's videos are not as enjoyable as the old ones

Speaking about wherleslop I really want to try john's company but I'm afraid it's going to be underwhelming just like when I tried root and pax pamir

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>>97582545
It depends on the style of auction. I don't think anyone gets tripped up by No Thanks! And I've only had two players who had trouble with Ra.

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>>97583007
always wanted to try a Vickrey auction

>>97581548
One of the key things about Modern Art is that any time you buy a painting you're splitting it's value with the auctioneer (or the bank). If you pay more than half what you expect to get from the painting the auctioneer is profiting more than you are while also taking on none of the risk. The only player who should be happy with a high bid is the auctioneer themself and if they are bidding high they're getting worse margins at high risk just to cut other people out of the profit, which isn't great either.
The risk is not random either. If someone heavily commits to a suit too early you can try to coordinate with the other players to push that suit to 4th or 5th so it doesn't score.

>>97582791
I largely find this infotainment style of reviewing so shallow there is little difference between 'review I enjoy watching' and 'review I trust'. Only exception I can think of is the bard.

>>97582288
Go back to the post in question.

>>97581617
>listening
>to any reviewer
I'm neither listening, nor in fact reading, anything produced by any faggot "reviewer" (i.e., guy who makes it his thing to write and/or record cringe reviews) and have not done so for a decade.

And no, nobody here is a reviewer in that sense, no need to twist yourself into knots.

>>97583218
>muh no true scotsman
ok bub whatever helps ya sleep at night
understand that i wasnt making an attack on your character, just an observation of facts.

>>97581623
Imagine the smooth marble sized brain that comes to this conclusion, that everyone is buying dozens of games every year just like he is, and people without strong feelings for YouTube celebrities are buying them completely at random. Imagine getting milked for clicks by a pack of "entertainers" and thinking it makes you a responsible consumer. Imagine the smell.

>>97583244
Are you honestly implying that when somebody says the word "reviewer", you think of an anonymous shitposter on a Montenegran tree hollow enjoyers? Is that what you're saying?

>>97583276
>Montenegran tree hollow enjoyer forum
Fucking phoneposting. I really should proofread more.

>>97583276
my point is looking at other people's opinions == looking at other people's opinions. sorry it took you this long to understand that, now i see why you need help forming your own thoughts

>>97579341
Hornet Leader is near and dear to my heart; when I was a wee lad I played FA-18 sims with my dad. That said the leader series is starting to feel dated since gmt started pushing more solo designs

>>97583339
Is everyone with an opinion about a game a reviewer, then? Or is there maybe some difference between following a reviewer and getting a random person's opinion?

>>97583339
Your point is besides the point because nobody said
>i don't listen to anybody's thoughts or opinions on board games
It was specifically about "people" called "reviewers".

And aside from being besides the point, it is still retarded because listening to faggot reviewers is qualitatively different from being able to engage with people holding a certain opinion or looking at aggregate opinions or comments of random people on some site.

> the "aggregate opinion" of a site
LMAOOO

>>97583468
What of it?

>>97579935
"Fun" is a buzzword

I just want everyone to know that I'm a MAN and I don't listen to no FAGGOT reviewers! They can try to teach me something but I AIN'T GONNA LISTEN!
I WIPE MY OWN ASS!

>>97583717
>gets completely blown out by the calm deployment of basic logic
>continues shrieking at noone anyway
Congratulations on the ass wiping thing, though, that's an big first step

>>97583742
nice try but i just got here.
the REEEing about reviewers thing, which is so common on 4chan, is something that's bothered me for many years, and across all types of media.
there are so many of you who get so indignant that reviewers exist, and i can't fathom why. if you don't like reviews, don't read them. they're a useful tool for everyone else.
i've just never been able to understand what the beef is. i assume you're still children and are tired of getting bossed around by mom, dad, and your teachers.

Some retard has been spamming about Renature for the last year if not longer. Anon here probably thinks it's a game beloved by all the different anonymous posters that praise it. Please be patient he does not need no reviewer because he is very smart.

>>97583792
You're confused because you're stupid. No-one here is reeing about the existence of reviewers, one anon stated that it was necessary to latch on to a reviewer who has the same taste as you and other people are disputing that. I'm not interested in reviewers because someone with a monetary stake in my attention isn't an honest source of information, so when someone claims that we all need to be paying attention to whatever YouTuber then I push back.

>>97583867
>one anon stated that it was necessary to latch on to a reviewer who has the same taste as you
they said it was "necessary"?
>when someone claims that we all need to be paying attention to whatever YouTuber
who said this?

>>97583882
If you can wipe your own ass, you can read the thread.

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I wish El Grande wasn't so reliant on getting lucky topdecking. It would be a 10/10

>>97583007
Ra is entirely mechanical, the auction is an illusion. It's more like a draft.

>>97583919
I feel like the bar should be higher
We should implement a public key encryption regime or at least invent a language specific to /bgg/ insiders

Looked up a jongetsgames video where they play a 2p game of Railways of the lost Atlas. Seems like a really good game. That is all.

>>97582997
pp1e or 2e? ion compagnia is gut

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>>97583487

>>97585264
>jongetsgames
i miss when he used to publish his negative reviews. very articulate fella

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>>97585354

Yes? Like "woke" it has divergent meanings depending upon who is using it. When normies say they are having fun what they mean is that the activity is accessible/undemanding so they can employ their vacuous energies to performative fun-having-behaviors.

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I like to imagine that Mondrian would find the idea of recreating his paintings with PS shapes funny, or an affront to the soul of abstract art or something.

>>97585381
"Fun" means releasing preferred chemicals in the brain. Dopamine, oxytocin, endorphins.

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How is my top 9

>>97586143
I hope you are enjoying your first year of board gaming, anon.

>>97586164
6 years, but is all right, my fav mechanics are trick taking, deck building and asymmetry stuff.

>>97586143
Would delight in playing with you, anon

>>97586143
8/9 I don't like coops

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Kinda excited for this. (my favorite type of game? 2-player games that can be played in under an hour)

>>97584566
Next you're going to tell me Furnace isn't an auction.

Can I get some recs on genuinely fun for all the family games, that aren't stupidly lucky but also not entirely abstract, ones that everyone can enjoy? We've got an age range of 11 to 70, so far I've had success with Cock Poker, Skull, Coup and Deception

>>97586660
Boop!
Hive
Wiz-War
Small World
Kronologic (don't sleep on this one)

La Famiglia and Rising Sun could also be good

>>97586660
>Can I get some recs on genuinely fun for all the family games, that aren't stupidly lucky but also not entirely abstract, ones that everyone can enjoy? We've got an age range of 11 to 70, so far I've had success with Cock Poker, Skull, Coup and Deception
Sure man, here's the stuff I play with my family:
>Carcassonne
>Port Royal
>Diamant
>Vegas Royale
>That's Not a Hat
>Ra

>>97586143
Too many wehrle, otherwise fine

>>97586660
Just One
Wavelength
So Clover
Diamant
Deception murder in hongkong
Zoo vadis
Kingdomino
Hot streak
Magical athletes

Any filler, really

>>97586660
PitchCar
A Fake Artist Goes to New York
Just One
Sheriff of Nottingham
Wavelength
Magical Athlete
Hot Streak

these are just fun family games for all ages, didn't worry too much about the luck.

>>97586660
Also dixit/mysterium/detective club
Whatever this 'interpretation' genre would be called

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>>97586823
friend. i have all these but Diamant, might have a party game problem

>>97586660
klask goes over well. there's a four player version but I can't rec, seems questionable

>>97586421
You captured my favorite Trick!

>>97583054
This game looks neat.

Thoughts on SUSD?

>>97583968
Do you have an opinion on Rumble Nation?

>>97587041
Literally who?

wingspan is a below average game

>>97587898
everyone look at this stunning and brave anon, daring to speak out on /bgg/ about wingspan

>>97587949
how new are you

>>97587898
How can one man's opinion be so based

playing 6p guards tonight
life owns sometimes

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So why's everybody hype (or were) about War for Arrakkis? It's WotR without all the good bits - no emergent narrative, no 2 win conditions, no combat cards, one group has all the toys while the other has to footslug across the desert X times and hope the sandstorm doesnt get them while managing harvesting which sucks ass and is only ever a drain.

Or do people simply play with the expansions and count that towards the base game?

>>97589666
I have only played it once but I agree with everything. The one (big) thing is that it plays faster, but I think it's inferior to wotr in most ways

>>97589666
>hype
You mean shilling? Every game has this

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Chinkshit games arrived from aliexpress arrived.
They cost around 6e each.

Trio came in a solid cardboard box that feels like smooth plastic, no real texture on the surface, but the cards feel surprisingly decent, not like just regular cheap playing cards.

Fake Artist also has a decent box, everything seems solid.

Scout is made the worst. The box it came in is flimsy cardboard, like what you'd buy cereal in. Cards feel like regular playing cards, the tokens are whatever.

>>97590043
>Fake artist
Try the markers and report back

>>97586660
Century: Spice Road

>>97590196
They mark stuff, only question is how long they'll last.

>>97590225
Already better than my used version then
Also trio is quite fun.

>>97585264
I will reiterate that the game looks fantastic and I really regret not backing the expansion because I wanted to be reasonable.

>>97585364
He did? I only knew him from his rules videos which aren't rodney level but he sure seems very passionate about it. And the lets play he did of RotLA really cemented that. Really comfy person

>>97590279
>Already better than my used version then
Yeah I would call this a good product, not just "good for the money". An original copy here costs 21 euros and that's outrageous for what it is.
>Also trio is quite fun.
Yeah I heard it's a good filler game, can't wait to try it.

>>97590043
Based chinkshit. I also got scout and trio from ali. As well as Avalon, coup, and sea salt & paper. I think I even saw cockroach poker on there. All were around $5cad. Took a month to get here, but whatever

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I'll try war of the ring with my gf this weekend, which side is the easier to play for complete beginners? I'm thinking about giving shadow to her since it seems you can win by unga bungaing dudes at the enemy

>>97590659
both sides have their tricks but the FP's tricks are all one time use and most are hidden in the card deck, so yeah i'd say shadow is slightly easier