>>97590639
>Based chinkshit. I also got scout and trio from ali. As well as Avalon, coup, and sea salt & paper. I think I even saw cockroach poker on there. All were around $5cad. Took a month to get here, but whatever
Did the Trio and Scout look the same as mine? Friends got sea salt and paper so I didn't order it, but avalon and coup seem interesting. I also saw a super compact Las Vegas Royale that doesn't exist officially - the original box is way too big for what the game is.

Did you get some good plays out of those games you bought?

chinkshit general. What's a good bootleg store/game to buy from Temu or Ali? Never bought chinkshit before. If it's at least half the lowest geekmarket price I might just get one too.

>>97590644
>>are there games you are really good at?
I'm really good at through the desert. Something about prioritizing What my opponents want to do. As you know there are around 10 things you want to do in ttd, and I'm good at leaving them until the last moment. I'm pretty bad at most other games though, kek
>>what theme/setting (or combination) still seems to be missing from our hobby?
You can usually find at least one game in any theme(there are games about clouds), but I'd like to see more in a computer simulation type stuff. Compile was cool for this.
>>card sleeves yes or no?
I like them as it makes shuffling more enjoyable. I'm not going to sleeve slop games, though. I always sleeve deck builders as you usually shuffle those often.
>>fantasy or sci-fi?
I love sci fi fantasy, star wars, slay the spire and a few others shouldn't be the only ones

>>97590644
Dope op pic

>>97590842
Seconding, that's a banger.

>>97590644
>>fantasy or sci-fi?
horror > sci-fi > fantasy
horror sci-fi is even better

>>97590842
>>97590864
Thanks, appreciate it.

>playing riichi on bga
I have no idea what I'm doing, I just click pon when it tells me to. Also this is going to take at least a month.

>>97590659
Shadow is easier I'd say. The main 'difficulty' is managing the rules regarding the fellowship and activating factions.

>>97591123
There's a bunch of people into boardgames that like to pretend richii mahjong is more than a meme/gambling game. I have no idea why. There isn't THAT much difference between your experience of the game and how a grandmaster might play, grinding out single digit percent advantages.
Majong tiles are pretty nice however

>>97591306
>>97590659
Hard to say tbqh, I find the faction that "leads" the war harder, which can be either. I suppose going for an all in ring dunk strategy is easier to play as the FP, but even for that you need experience. Imo it is very much a tempo game where you need to know when to push and when to fall back in either part of the war. But I am rambling. Shadow is probably easier in your first game because FP might find themselves in a depressive how the fuck am I even able to win position.

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Oh my, thats a plump box.
Wonder what's inside and how high anons can score?
We have, as either a main box or expansions
>one /bgg/core
>one dexterity
>one co-op
>one filler
>one that's divisive here

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>>97591800
>I have no idea why
Because it's oriental and for weaboos that means it's intellectual and deep.

>>97591098
Frogs are cool man.

>>97590644
Best take that! games?

>>97591800
Well I like gin rummy and regular chink mahjong looked too basic for me.

>>97592017
Oh it is 100% more interesting and better than standard chink mahjong. I think my post came across differently than I wanted; richii is perfectly pleasant, and the haptic element and table presence of it is amazing. I only find it strange some people into boardgaming really seem to go for it as if it was so much more than a gambling game.
Essentially, I find just learning all the different (popular) yakus, han values and the whole point calculation is a whole lot of complexity for how precious little control you have over how your game will shape out.
I get it's like backgammon in that way, the better player will win more over time by grinding out their small advantage. But a game of mahjong isn't exactly quick.
I wonder if the trick is how it disguises its nature as a gambling game beneath the seemingly high rules load (I say seemingly because I suppose you don't need to know many yakus and basics to start playing a somewhat limited but functional game) so you get the roulette high whilst still feeling in control of your fate?

>>97592083
I read Riichi Book 1 back when I was playing Majsoul and there was a lot more to efficient play than I was expecting. I agree that it's a game where it's much better to be lucky than good but there is a high skill ceiling.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dainachiba/RiichiBooks/master/RiichiBook1.pdf

>>97592120
To be completely honest, I've played some 30-50 games and liked it well enough. I think I would've still be playing it on majongsoul if it didn't go for the loliesque anime harem style. I'm not ashamed of much, but I feel like a creep playing it when riding the bus or metro.
There might well be a lot more to it than I give it credit for, getting better just didn't feel rewarding enough to me but I surely haven't been very deep beneath the surface

>>97592341
https://youtu.be/AqeNv5GSXDY

>>97591864
did you buy pitch car
did you

>>97591864
Hansa Teutonica
Flick Fleet
Some gay shit
Race for the Galaxy
Cosmic Encounter

>>97591984
Cosmic Frog

>>97591864
>or expansions
The divisive pickup is the Frogs and Bats for Root

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Damn, the CMON cards are small in comparison to the size I chose. Giant paintings here I come.

>>97591306
>>97591838
Yea I'm thinking I'll give her the shadow, I'm also usually the one doing the rules learning and then teaching her to ease the on ramp so it feels correct to give her the more straightforward option

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Lot of good guesses, but no anon scored a point.

>>97593943
>they made a 2nd one

neat

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Reminder that Black Friday is the best stock market board game!
I hope that dog anon is doing fine...

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>>97594341
There's also ICECOOL Wizards.

You pick up dark blue cards by passing through rooms and doorways and if you land on a light blue card you can turn in a set of dark blue cards to take it.
You can also spend dark blue cards from doorways to take a special action specific to the doorway.
There is no hall monitor, but if you bump another player you can exchange one of your dark blue cards with one of theirs.
At the end of your turn cards are dealt out to replace the ones you took. The deck of dark blue cards is the game clock.
Cards are points at the end of the game, including dark blue cards spent to take special actions. Light blue cards are more points than dark blue cards.

games that combine area majority and push your luck mechanics?

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>>97595549
It's not exactly area majority, but Claim It! was the first game that came to mind.

>>97595549
Barony?

>>97595664
How is Barony push your luck?

>>97594419
Hey, we did it on Wednesday, Tuesday was really bad and she didn't eat for 2 days so it was over. Then we drove 400 km to my hometown and buried her facing the hills. Lots of tears and now there a feeling of something missing at home, gf has been hit harder since she still believed she could make it past the summer

Ti4 looks awful. Who wants to play 10hrs of kingmaker random slop.
Sunk cost fallacy the game.

>>97595973
>Who wants to play 10hrs of kingmaker random slop
Pseuds that think long equals deep.

>>97595973
Which is why i play Arcs.
I am going to bloody your nose in the first round. And the round after.
Just non stop ass whooping and shenanigans.

>>97595973
>>97595993
because its fun to argue with friends

Sorry you guys dont play with any...

>>97596308
>can kiss ass for 10hrs
Skill requirement to win ti4

>>97596308
There are million other games that you can do that in that are actually good.

>>97595973
I despise kingmaking yet do really like Ti4. Although you might argue we aren't doing it right because we try to not make the last turn become 3h of kingmaking hot potato. I genuinely don't understand how and why people like this, it is absolutely exhausting and unstatisfying.

A few days (weeks?) ago I consoled an anon who was in a bit of a boardgame slump, now I do feel it myself. Really disappointing, never thought I'd miss the high of a good game night this fast.

>>97596754
I feel you.
Everyone bailed on my weekly Friday night hosting, and my babysitter canceled this morning, so I cannot attend the regular Saturday night a friend hosts which I've been turning down for months and had finally said yes to earlier this week.

>taking out/moving around boxes to bring out specific ones to add in expansion stuff
>Nawalli, which wasnt even on that shelf, but one below, falls off and corner stabs into top of the foot
>throbbing pain a solid half hour later
Is this the real Montezumas revenge?

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Sooooo, there is a noticeable style shift between the OG cosmic frogs and the devious/gluttonous pack frogs.
To which I ask Jenna Felli: what the fuck?
At first I assumed she switched artist. Not even, its the same lady.

>>97596883
>She
But yes, looks way worse and what an idiotic idea to change the already somewhat iconic art style

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>>97592120
>literaly just rummy

>30% of pdf dedicated to operating just that particular site

>"complexity" all comes from the insane retarded scoring which resolves into "you still need an index open at all times to even know the possibilities"

>"advanced shapes" section
>no shapes
>mfw

>>97596780
Big oof.
I'd join you anon.

>>97597065
There are gives and takes.
This same week I found out a coworker is a big Werhle fan, and he lives a 30 min walk away. We both own CitOW and BB:TM too, so I am looking forward to seeing what gaming with him is like.
Plus more of my students are getting into my filler games during free periods and may brave the "scary big seniors" to join us for the lunch board game club.
Anyways, tonight I am either teaching my wife Compile or Mottainai which will be nice.
Thanks for your support. Y'all are good people.

>>97596780
Different, but also deeply bad feeling. Idk what's worse.
>having that tempoary "not feeling it" phase where you start excited and leave somehow vaguely disappointed not knowing why
>Yet again not getting a chance to play due to external circumstances, that fuzzy feeling of excitement hitting a sudden brick wall

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>>97596721
Kingmaking is always something interesting to me and I'm not sure how to deal with it.
Let's take the game through the desert. It's a perfect information game(yes I know the water hole tokens are to be placed face down to discourage kingmaking). But it's usually pretty obvious who is winning. What is Anon's opinion when players make soft deals amongst themselves, for example:
P1: "Looks like P3 is ahead, guys..."
P2: "You're right. How about I will block him, instead of you, here. And then you don't block me here, P1?"
P1: "Okay deal."
P3: "wtf"

My players do these soft deals, and I try not to discourage them, but it basically makes everyone CHOOSE who wins. On the other hand, they will police runaways which stops players from feeling like there is no hope. This also stops "jobbers". Jobbers as in people who can tell that there is no hope in continuing to play so they try to take others down with them.

I have no problems with it in a game like Zoo Vadis as negotiations are the main mechanic of the game and it's great. Where you make deals with everyone until the last few turns where you betray them for the win.

When there is a kingmaking element, you run into the "Catan problem", where the person who wins is the one who can snivel the most and gaslight everyone into thinking they aren't doing well.

Any thoughts on this issue? Maybe I'm just playing the wrong games? I need to put my foot down? Shouldn't let it bother me if that's how people want to play?

>>97597093
>This same week I found out a coworker is a big Werhle fan, and he lives a 30 min walk away.
jesus it keeps getting worse, i'm sorry

>>97597058
>literaly just rummy
Rummy is probably the older game, too.

>>97597121
Nothing wrong

Certain autists types on this general just don't like kingmaking (or any social aspect of games), because they refuse to do any social combat, due to thier crippled social nature.

They only lean toward combinatoric games because they also refuse the basic existance of others.

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>>97597569

>>97597656
Combinatorics is math without numbers so a combinatoric game is ????????????????????????????????????????????

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>>97597569
Leave the metagame alone Cole
I'll only tell you once

>>97597656
>>97597682
Why even pretend like you don't know this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_game_theory

>>97597569
kingmaking doesn't suck because it's social it sucks because it rewards whoever is in 2nd at the end and it's not fun to play for 2nd because you play with stupid predictable humans. interaction is good, kingmaking is fucking retarded.

>>97590644
>are there games you are really good at?
all of them? good games are good when you can trust the designer and that apparent paths are viable. contrast that with something like photosynthesis or dominion where there is only one dominant strategy.
>got a good story about winning in a cool fashion?
I played like a 10 minute turn of space base and just kept rerolling until everyone decided to never play again.

>what theme/setting (or combination) still seems to be missing from our hobby?
prehistoric beating each other over the head for meat and women, and no neanderthal doesn't count because nobody will play
>card sleeves yes or no?
never. my dad sleeves EVERYTHING so I'll inherit a room full of pristine games anyway.
>fantasy or sci-fi?
Sci-fi except Clank!, Clank! fucked up Clank! In Space (even though it has the best references)

>>97596780
damn, can't you get your mom to take you even though the babysitter can't?

>>97597975
She died a month and one day ago.
And i asked my dad but he was having supper with best friends.

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What are your top five 2-player only games?

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Is this any good?

>>97598175
Broken record a go-go, but since you asked:
Sakura Arms
Twilight Struggle
Summoner Wars
Blue Moon
Compile

>>97597993
I'm sorry for your loss anon. That's a really hard thing to have to go through.

>>97598175
Duel For Middle Earth
Duel For Middle Earth
Duel For Middle Earth
Duel For Middle Earth
Duel For Middle Earth

>>97596754
I forgot my small report. It is to be taken with a grain of salt as one of the guys joining me is quite literally incapable of abstracting anything, he can only learn something by playing it and asking questions. It's amazing. But the games went accordingly

>Le Havre
I'm somewhat down on le havre nowadays. Not that it's bad, just not rosenbergs AAA tier anymore for me. Always a little less interactive than I think, always a bit below my expectation. Wish the buying/selling was more dynamic, as is the loss from selling something is like 95% not worth it except in rare circumstances where tempo is essential.

>Kemet
Nice, as always. Players should have an equal attitude, though (duh, true for most games). One guy playing it overly serious and taking a minute a turn can really staunch the pleasant flow of the game. Plus F U C K the defensive powers, I always try to make the vp on successful defense work and it never does.

>Trio
Super quick and nice game, more memory aspect to it than I thought which sadly makes it somewhat unfit for the end of the evening closer where you just talk, banter and have something to do with your hands

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>>97597121
>When there is a kingmaking element, you run into the "Catan problem", where the person who wins is the one who can snivel the most and gaslight everyone into thinking they aren't doing well.
This is, essentially, my problem with kingmaking.

>Soft deals
We have an unspoken agreement that this kind of conspiring against someone is in poor taste, but there's no particular reason for this. Now that I think about it, it is super weird. It feels against the spirit of most games tome to collude against other players, but only when it is openly articulated. If it is done without any form of tabletalk because both players deduce it from the others behaviour, it somehow feels fine to me despite leading to the exact same result. Really strange

>>97598175
Summoner Wars
Android: Netrunner
Lost Cities
then it's either a step down, or games that work best at 2 players but aren't strictly 2 player games

This kingmaking discussion is kind of interesting. I guess my stance on it is, if there are soft deals going on that you think are against the spirit of the game (or are detrimental to you), it's your job to call them out and put an end to them.

P1 is whining about P2 & P3 and is sniveling so hard they're going to win? Snivel even harder or call out exactly what they're doing. "P1 is just saying that so everyone thinks they're weak and they steal the game." Muddy the waters so much that you're back to an even playing field. Or if it's especially egregious: "Hey guys I don't know if that's really in the spirit of the game. The person who whines the most is just going to win. How about we just play the game?" You can use your words too.

Bad kingmaking:
Munchkin
Catan
Root

Good kingmaking:
Zoo Vadis
TI4
Dune

anyone have thoughts on Camp Grizzly?

>>97599365
>or games that work best at 2 players but aren't strictly 2 player games
names?

>>97599445
Race for the Galaxy

>>97599445
Res Arcana
Power Plants

anyone who's played PitchCar - what are your favorite expansion pieces?
i want to 3d print some stuff. haven't pulled out my 3d printer in about 2 years because i was buying/selling a house and just busy for a while. i'm overwhelmed and don't know where to start. just need someone to give me the tiniest bit of guidance to get me started.

>>97599445
Castle combo
War of the ring
Rebellion

>>97598792
>I always try to make the vp on successful defense work and it never does.
You need the 7x unit/troop power and the mercenaries to really make it work properly, deadly trap and bestial fury help a lot too.

>>97596883
On par with a troon. Probably a part of her new gender journey. What was originally there was obviously the correct thing, and what it turned into is an abonimation that retards will tell you is not only ok, but superior to the original version.

Also, this new captcha system can suck my nuts

I keep seeing hype for Moon Colony Blood Bath and Hot Streak, but then realize it's a video put up by an autist that owns a board game shop who somehow got into my algorithm. Though I could use some lighter games in my collection. Are they good, or any recs for a lighter game with lots of interaction?

>>97600084
>what it turned into is an abonimation that retards will tell you is not only ok, but superior to the original version.
I've seen zero comments anywhere else about the art difference, one way or the other

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anons what is best in life?

>>97600109
Neither of those games have much interaction.

>>97599895
That's more than half my units bound and 2 techs to gain fuckall but a tempoary vp. I mean I see where you are going with this but I think in a game in which attacking is king and battles are semi-deterministic, the one really cool thing blue has is the sphinx. Idk maybe I am underestimating deterrents, but defense bonuses sometimes prevent one
opponent from gaining a vp, attack bonusses actively help you win.

>>97600262
To penny sleeve your cards, to mash shuffle them before you, and to hear the lamentations of the normies.

>>97600313
Are either any good?

>>97600109
Hot Streak is literally gambling.

I'm now eligible to apply for a 12kyu certificate in igo, but there are still some hurdles to get through in 19x19. More like a 15-20kyu player, as I'm still trying to practice shapes, reading longer ladders and counting territory/liberties.
Feels like Nihon Ki-in like to flog out ranks, since they make a fair bit of money off certificates.

>>97600459
I like Hot Streak but only at high player counts. I cannot speak on Moon Colony Bloodbath.

>>97600480
The draft is gambling themed but a skewed bet on yes or no is the only way to lose money.

>>97600489
I think anon was more talking about the illusion of agency than mechanics

>>97600484
Am I meant to believe that there are people paying to be certified as 12kyu? Why?

>>97600489
i mean there's losing money and there's not making as much as the opponents, both contribute to not winning the game

>>97600360
Well yeah but those are the powers you use with the defensive victory point power. You camp a huge defensive army on top of two temples and win as people struggle to dislodge you.

>>97601419
I suppose I just haven't played around with it enough. It only occured to me now that the tempoary pyramid/temple points combined with temple vp income might just be enough to outpace aggressive opponents. I always played the defensive strategy at least with a little red techs because picking off strugglers is such an easy way to get vp.

But in the end I will grab that red +1 movement tile 9/10 times at the start if it's still there, it's so good.

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Speaking of Kemet, what rules/modules/version do you like to use for your sessions? I play with my OG edition and Ta-Seti v1.5 rules, all modules but path to Ta-Seti, and use Blood & Sand's rules of removing a color out of the 4 and not allowing day cards during combat which was one of the things I didn't really like from v1.5

>>97598184
Notable Kniziaphile Mike DiLisio didn't like it.

Reiner Knizia

I'm liking the idea of dune imperium, terraforming mars, and arkham horror card game, am I missing anything? Is scythe as good?

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There doesn't seem to be an agreed on definition of heaviness, yet it is constantly used in a somewhat intuitive sense, but it's incoherent, midweight wargames are not really comparable to midweight euros.
>What makes a game 'heavy'?
Rulesload? Options to consider? How much mental work one has to do to play well? Game length? Is chess heavier or lighter than, say, el grande?

>>97602250
>am I missing anything
Apparently the time to try them. I happen to think the AH card game is borderline scammy business but some really love it.

>>97602249
Is this like "Bloody Mary" but you say his name 3 times infront of a blank cardboard sheet?

Reiner Knizia

Vital Lacerda

>>97595889
I understand how you feel, I also buried my dog last year, before she died she didnt wanted to eat not drink water. After she died i could feel all her quirks missing, how she stole my socks and hide them under my bed like she was a dragon with treasure. I hope your dog also had a good life alongside you, I bet she loved you even in the end.

>>97602601
You guys are so wholesome, I love you all.

Reiner Knizia

René Wiersma

Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz

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>>97602930
Is not credited as a designer on the gulag. It is doubtful your post contributes to interrupting >>97602359's curse.

>>97598175
Blood Bowl Team Manager
Netrunner
Ashes Reborn
Hive/Onitama
Air land & sea

>>97602939
kurwa

>>97602950
absolutely based picks.

>>97602250
scythe is FUCKING AWFUL

>>97600109
evolution: the beginning is a lightweight cardgame where you get to eat your opponents dinos. it's good for beginners and it can get hairy when seasoned board gamers start retaliating.

>>97601672
I went out of my way to get the OG and we play it as intended.

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Guess the designer.

>>97603318
Tommy V

>>97603525
You got it in one.

>>97602950
>Blood Bowl Team Manager
>2p
Why would you ever do that?

I notice warhammer games aren't the highest reviewed on boardgamegeek, I mean the fuck? I'm not paying a premium for non premium game design. Are they really that bad?

>>97603670
It has a few decent to good board games I'm aware of, but the tactical miniature game I've always assumed is some archaic garbage dice chucker.

>>97603670
Idk what to tell you, they are the archetypical miniature tabletop games.
I recommend you don't equate bgg reviews/ranking with how good a game is

>>97603670
Hamwarmer has beed overpriced garbage ever since they got popular.

>>97603233
But all the rules updates are official...

>>97603233
>>97604126
What is truly playing as intended?
If a designer makes a second edition with completely new rules or balancing changes, is the original design not playing as intended? was it ever?

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>>97604471
I don't think this applies to Kemet, but I'll do you one farther removed: if a designer makes a new edition with completely new rules and balancing chances but the publisher makes additional changes without consulting the designer, is the new version playing as intended? Who's intentions?

>>97604126
>>97604471
>>97604585
"official" is often pandering to whiners and idiots, the old testament is harsh af and then Jesus comes and is like "yo just believe in me and you don't have to live a good life or cut your dicks anymore". we were intended to live with the harsh realities of real laws not some watered down woke faggotry that makes everything soft. Yes I am talking about GWT but it applies everywhere.

>>97604585
what about the xer who teaches it wrong and then claims "house rule" when you correct xim?

>>97604674
You started ok but then confused changing indians for bandits and making women engineers with gameplay/mechanic changes.

GWT2e is an objectively better game mechanically due to the additions and changes to the original's mechanics. Same thing happens with Through the Ages. I don't know all the differences between all the versions of Kemet so I can't give an opinion on it, I just play it the way the rulebook in my box tells me to.

>>97603670
Why are you listening to the faggots who rank games at bgg? Games Workshop makes slop with nice models. They've admitted as much. Tabletop gaming is not board gaming so even if the reviews and ranking weren't fucked, I wouldn't trust a board game site to rate a tabletop skirmish/wargame.

>>97604871
>bgg is right but don't listen to them
Get that sand out of your vagina, the gulag isn't going anywhere.

>>97604889
That doesn't mean you have to be considerate of them.

I can't stop playing hanamikoji on BGA!

>>97604892
People who look at gulag ratings aren't going anywhere either.

Has /bgg/ ever gone a whole thread without a conservative inventing a scenario where they're a victim?
Even Jesus and the Bible are bullying them these days

>>97605716
Yes that is the function of jesus and the bible.

good morning, toy battle continues to be a good game

that is all

Played Modern Art and Double Nine with the boys this morning.

>>97606087
It is a decent little game (I say decent because I suck at it). I wish the art style wasn't mobile slop though. I feel like this was originally going to be, or is planned on being, a mobile game that fell through.

>>97606087
Yes.

>>97605716
What?

>TI Digital got a demo for steam next fest
yay
>it's only the combat
god damn it.
still, what little there is is quite alright, hope they don't fuck it up like High Frontier got fucked up

Had this weird moment last weekend where a new to boardgames friend asked to play "the most fun game" to which I had no answer. Because the most fun game I can think of, the best game, the best design and the game I want to play most right this second are usually four different games. Maybe I'll turn it into a TQ at some point

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Give us your 3 favs of each category. #1 of each category at the top.
Optional: Feel free to add your fav solo game and which games are all-time favorite and which are just current favorites.

>>97595549
Ra
MLEM
Though in both cases the "area majority" is just one way to score points

>>97606373
Weird categories but
>2p
Azul
Jaipur
Botanik
>light/medium
Carcassonne
Between Two Cities
Blokus
>heavy
Terra Mystica
Tigris & Euphrates
March of the Ants (maybe not really heavy but whatever)

>>97606358
The best game is Hansa Teutonica

>>97603670
GW designs the models first and the rules second. If you're not interested in the models or the setting there's better games that do similar gameplay.

>>97602359

At least they're not summoning Jamey Stegmaier and his scary teeth.

any games like the dungeoneer series?

Summer Pavilion seems way better than vanilla Azul

>>97606087
i won't play this game until they re-do the art
it's hideous

>>97606373
2player:
1. Android: Netrunner
2. Race for the Galaxy
3. Summoner Wars
Filler/party:
1. Decrypto
2. A Fake Artist Goes to New York
3. Captain Sonar
Main event:
1. Bus
2. Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion
3. Hansa Teutonica

How do i git gud at the following:
Leviathan Wilds
EARTHBORN RANGERS
Indonesia

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>>97607348
Where are you so that i may accompany you on game nights

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>>97607359
Very, very south.

>>97606373
>2 player
Boop!
The British Way
Battleline
>Middle weight
Kronologic
The King is Dead
Aegean Sea
>Main Event
La Famiglia
Churchill
A Distant Plain

>>97607372
FUCK

>>97607359
Perhaps the northeast is more your thing?

>>97607592
Yes. Chilly but not Chile

>>97606467
>March of the Ants (maybe not really heavy but whatever)
Heavier than T&E.

>>97607372
Texas isn't THAT far south...