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>>97569894Perterabo is a faggot and Logar is a much more interesting character
You know what would be cool?A power club as a weapon.
I haven't played 40k since 6th but what in the name of power creep has happened?Ive seen hobby youtubers like EoB call bs4 bad and str 10 weakHow much has the game fundamentally changed? and how the fuck has it changed but is still IGOUGO? Like that has only ever been fun in whfb and other rank and flank gamesTits for your time
>>97569900GW hates the Wordbearers, anon. They didn't get anything even though they should be the posterboys of chaos undivided. That's why we'll get Peter before Lorgar.
>>97569900They both pale in comparison to other Primarchs in both mental and physical capacity and interest from the reader.
>>97569894I like iron warriors when do fucked up evil shit because it's for efficiency, see daemonculaba.I like word bearers becuase being evil and right is fun.
>>97569904Yeah
How excited are we, fellow /tg/er's?
>>97569918Perty's rival primarch is dead, while Lorgar's rival primarch is the poster boy of 40k now.
>>97569919Logar was honestly my favorite corruption storyHe was bred for a very specific purpose, did that purpose and got punished for it.He made loyal worlds and often left them better than he found them. Besides guillimen who did that?He didnt get hit with a magic sword, he didnt get brain nails, he wasnt an edgy baby killer. He did everything he was told and because the emperor was a fedora lord whos whole plan with chaos was "Ignore it and hope it goes away" got totally punished.He also was the only one who treated his brothers as brothers. He was flawed but thats were a lot of his interesting points and motivations are
>>97569936I mean yeah, I am excited but this isn't the place to discuss the video games related to warhammer 40k.
>>97569926>most technologically advanced sm legion>big funny stick for a weapon IH are based.
>>97569938Logars rival is the raven guard guyRaven guard and Ironhands are in a battle to be the most forgettable of the original founding loyalist
>>97569894>TQSince it seems the leaks are true, the series will conclude with an Armageddon book, the second standalone Armageddon supplement to be released in this edition. Because data analytics or something said that Yarrick needs to fight Angron. No I'm not happy.
>>97569951>Logars rival is the raven guard guyThat's just Corax eternally seething, which is propagated by gay sloptuber.Lorgar and Gman started before the heresy, with Calth and the shadow cursade cementing their hatred for each other.Hell, the mark of calth is still ticking which was kicked off by the word bearers.
>>97569962>Lorgar and Gman started before the heresy, with Calth and the shadow cursade cementing their hatred for each other.You misspelt "Monarchia"
>>97569938>thinking GW cares about meme rivalries Anon, the ultra smurfs had an entire storyline fighting the Death Guard instead of the Wordbearers. And before Titus took Uriel's spot as smurf posterboy his biggest rival was an IW.
>>97569962The heresy 100% would not got started if the emperor didnt try to "Make an example" of Logar for doing the thing he made explicitly for Logar to do
>>97569963Yeah, the razing of Monarchia was during the great crusade, the burning of Calth was was cemented thier equal hatred for each other,
Serious question:Any good sloptubers that does decent lore / recap vids?
>>97569966What's bad about different factions fighting each other, just because they have a rivally doesn't mean every conflict has to be againts each other.That'd like saying that since Horus killed Sangy that means they can only fight each other, which is retarded.
>>97569974i like Arbitor Ian since his vids are just lore that gets to the point
>>97569940What was hilarious is that after the buring of Monarchia and big E telling them to hurry up, the word bearers started steam rolling because the second a didn't immediatelycomply they would just wipe out the entire population.Since they're progress so stellar no one looked into all the shady shit that was going on behind the scenes because they just thought the word bearers had fixed what ever problem they had.
>>97569980Didn't say the aren't allowed to fight other faction it's just that rivalries between legions have been overall irrelevant in modern 40k unlike the Heresy. The Wordbearers are all over the place but the smurfs treat them just like any other traitor legion since everyone is fighting eveyone. The "rivalry" isn't that important.
>>97569974>Any good sloptubersDefinitionally no.
>>97570000You're right that they're not as prevalent in 40k, but GW still uses them to creat conflicts when they need to, such as the burining of fenris.And given the 500 worlds campagin probably being the closer for 10th I wouldn't be surprised if GW pulls some kind of stunt given they're really pushing the grand narrative thing these days rather than the old warzones we had pre 8th
>>97570000If Lorgar came back, it’d make sense for Gulliman to still be butthurt over the Word Bearers. It could be a neat dynamic too, like Lorgar hasn’t thought about the Heresy for 10k+ years and isn’t mad about Monarchia at all anymore while G-man seethes.
>>97570049I think both characters have moved on to "The Big Picture."Logar is zen with his position, and Guillimen is just trying to keep calm when hes surrounded by morons.
>>97570063It'd be pretty neat if they do ever end up on the same battle field they both just have a moment glance at each other of "how did it get to this, brother" right before them getting back to tearing up their enemies.
Land Raider for my Grey Knights, Y/N?
>>97570079yesit looks cool
>>97569918>>97569938the problem with a sprue for black legion or word bearers is that the generic chaos stuff already has all these horns and topknots and eyes of horus and stars of chaos so you can already BEAR the shit out of the word or BLACK your legion. I mean I'm sure gw will do it and it'll just be sprues that are those things but x2, but the night lords and iron warriors and alpha legion all have more distinct looks.
>>97569936oh yeah I forgot about that. When was that teased, november or something?
>>97570063Gulliman expressed some guilt in the Dark Imperium trilogy over Monarchia, even revealing to one of his historians that Lorgar turned first and he might be at fault since the Emperor had used him to reprimand Lorgar prior to Calth. He even went so far as to obtain the closest thing he could to a first edition copy of Lorgar’s writing on why the Emperor was a god because he felt regret and shame he dismissed it out of hand to win the Emperor’s approval instead of honestly interrogating the idea. I think it would make sense for Gulliman to have plenty of baggage over Lorgar still, which I think is interesting because Lorgar wouldn’t have to have any baggage at all due to the time elapsed since the Heresy.
>>97570079I got one when I was 16 and painted it solid gunmetal and then, since blood for the blood god paint wasn't a think, painted latin curses on the side in red paint (which I imaged to be heretic/daemon blood). Then I wanted to change the guns so I broke the gunwhales and I'm still trying to fix it now that I dug it back up.
>>97570079>that lascannon
>>97570098They could use some more legion specific characters. Like an Erebus or Kor Phareon model that can dual build as generic Word Bearer options.
I want to try something different and buy a Necron KT but i know a shit about necrons. should I get Hierotek or Canoptek?
>>97570128>Like an Erebus or Kor Phareon model that can dual build as generic Word Bearer optionLolGW has not made any dual builds, like Haarkon the night lord who joined hte black legion can't be built as a Night Lord raptor lord or something. Named characters are just named characters. Enjoy your herohammer.
>the crucible pdfs were taken down by Gays workshopI should have spent the weekend downloanding it.GW I'm just gonna download the PDFs later on I'm not giving you 70 dollars for a book that will be out od date six months from now.
>>97569900The problem with Lordar is that he's supposed to be a charismatic theologian, but BL authors don't know the first thing about writing a character like that. As a result he just ends up being made into a petulant child who sells his soul to space-Satan because daddy took away his toys.
>>97570130Buy the dude on the righthe looks like pure sex
>>97570130I think Hierotek can be built as two characters and a unit of Immortals/Deathmarks so if you wanted a foundation for an army I would say that one. Unless you like the Canoptek aspect of Necrons more, Scarabs are cool and cute.
>>97570079I wouldn’t. When the faction gets redesigned they are losing it.
Put your fucking helmets on
>>97570089Thanks.>>97570107That sounds like when I wanted a Chaos Dreadnought as a teen and bought and converted a loyalist Dreadnought into a Khornate Chaos Dread with spikes and extra CSM parts and lots of red paint. Good stuff dude. Cherish it.>>97570111Thanks, I can not unsee it now.>>97570153Sculpts are fine and do not need a redesign. >>97570164All my dudes wear helmets on the battlefield.
>>97570153I wouldn't count on that happening soon, though. Only rumor we have is '11th' but not launch box (to my knowledge), so it could probably be years off.
>>97569894>TQI have a hard time following anything in 40k. I just paint the models and nod and smile when lore is talked about.
>>97570130I think the Tomb World one is still being scalped.
>>97570153I honestly hate all the new primaris vehicles except the storm speeder (which is just a bigger land speeder) so I hope they don't because I won't buy any of that shit like lmao fucking impulsor more like impulse buy regret am I right?
>>97570170>Sculpts are fine and do not need a redesignThey’re overdesigned and it makes them show their age more. Conceptually they are cool, yeah, but the actual minis are ugly as FUUUUUUUCK. Also they aren’t primaris so they can’t be kangz of the marines. Dey need some of em primaris organs in dem bodies and some length enstrenchening. Also some of that fancy primaris weaponings.
Repulsor? More LIKE I'M REPULSED.
Remind me why we hate the impulsor again?
>>97570195New thing BAD because hivemind say so >:(Old thing GOOD because it in video game the funny memes are from :)
Posting some models.>>97570130Almost everything in Hierotek is an existing necrons model, at best slightly reposed. I already have most of the box contents without having bought it. But it has more necron-y looking models so if you don't already have any crons that might do the job for you. Canoptek is 100% new models which would be better for me. They don't look as much like classic Necrons though so it may depend on your tastes. Personally I'd prefer canoptek though.
>>97570211they look gr8 m8 ill masturb8 to those
>>97569920>>97569894The funniest thing is that even daemons themselves force other daemons into daemon engines. NO ONE really cares.
>>97569914BS values no longer go above a 6 or below a 2 and lower is better, BS6 means you only hit on 6s and BS2 means you hit on a 2+. This is one of the only stat reworks they've done that I actually like because Old BS formula's were almost completely irrelevant. The new system is more intuitive.They changed how S vs T works too. Now you only wound on a 2+ when your S value is double your opponents T or higher, meaning it takes S8 to wound marines on a 2+. The reverse works too, with wounding on a 6+ reserved for things that in old 40k wouldn't wound at all.They changed this as part of infantry/vehicle homogenisation when they through out AV and just gave tanks and walkers a toughness stat and wounds.They uncapped both S and T values too, most serious tanks have at least T10 and lascanons are S12.S10 is still good, its just good for killing T5 shit like Crisis Suits or Terminators which are both T5 now, for killing tanks you want at least S12 because the Russ is T11.Needless to say, the game has changed A LOT.
>>97570240ah they now have bloodbowl rules with toughness.I cant say I am a fan. It might be that I played a lot of mordhiem but its felt like every GW game has boiled down to T being the most important stat
It may be true that in general there is a trend for people to take few or no troops, but for me I love lots of troops and in both my sob and guard armies I always have 40+. They also have nice transports to keep them safe. Luv me troops
>>97570211What about necron schemes? I hear they are based on their dystany but i have zero knowledge about the color base...
I think I'm almost done with this month's mini, just need to do the base and do a finnaly spot check.
>>97570164I didn't 3d print heads and practice painting female faces to not use them
>>97570256Eeeh just make it up, nobody really has necron schemes memorised. I'm kind-of-but-not-really using the sautekh scheme, at least the primary colours. So, I justify that by saying I'm a minor sautekh client dynasty specialising in a small but elite strike force.Anyway pick one basic metal and one glowy accent colour, then have a few lighter/darker shades of each of the two, and you're golden.
>>97570279What was this month's mini? I ask because I missed it not because I'm decalfag.
>>97570300don't bring him upBig guns, which can be left up to your interpretation.
I still don’t get why krieg got refreshed before catachan. Ones cool the others just some lame fucking shovel meme.
>>97570256Most necron dynast schemes are Silver + accent colours to break up all the Silver.Sautekh (The guys with most of the special characters) are the classic Silver and black.Mephrit (ranged specialists who love doonsday weapons) are Silver and green.Nihlakh (A bunch of crazy rich assholes, Trazyn is part of this dynasty but not its leader) are Silver, pale blue and gold, very Thousand Sons look.Novokh (melee boys with crazy blood rituals who hate being metal even more than the other necrons) are Silver and Red.Apart from that, you've Also got the two divergent colour schemes.Nephrekh (dynasty ruled by a crazy Phaeron who wants to become a being of light and sound) have ditched their traditional colours in favour of golden skin with blue accents. Very fancy.And Szarekhan (The Silent Kings Dynasty who renamed themselves after him when biotransference happened.) These guys have bronze skin with black and white accents. Kind of a fancier Sautekh lookswise.
>>97570279whys your thumb all scabbed up... you druggy..
>>97570328That's paint, I was painting red, the only drugs I touch is a bit of sugar can champagne.
>>97570320>>97570289I see, I was also wondering what dystany the KT box was showing. to be fair, the black looks ugly but i liked the green shoulders
Her head is in FOUR fucking pieces.
>>97570365This is the Tsarakura dynasty, who (instead of the traditional overlord command structure) are led by their crypteks. I've painted my army this scheme; pretty easy to paint, as all necrons are, but this will free you from exclusively using metallics.
>>97570365Looks like they're Tsarakura dynasty, from my codex. Can't see any lore on them just a picture on a minor dynasty showcase page
>>97570369Are you serious
>>97570135It's a real shame. Imagine what could have been with a writer that had a decent grounding in apologetics. Tall order I know, but a man can dream.
>heavy flamers garbage in necromunda>heavy flamers bad in 30k>kinda suck in kill teamAre there any editions of 40k where heavy flamers are OP?
>>97570384
>>97569899>lived long enough for a Bae/Word Bearers crossoverImmaculate taste.
are the new sororitas dice any good? I found them in stock on a store. THey seem a bit dark.
Guess I'm gonna build a Hierotek Nihilakh. Both for Trazyn (I learned that his dynasty) and also 'cause Cawl GF (Lexicanum says she is from this dynasty too)
>>97570336queenslander detected
Riding a wave of motivation to work on my Tactical Squad that was collecting dust, I think it really was a blunder to remove different armor marks from Primaris kits and I think James should speed up their reintroduction into new kits. It’s just more interesting to build, paint, and customize your units if you can giver your guys straight up different suits of armor from one another,
>>97570369that's aryan, pushfitcuck
>>97569936I would be excited if total war wasnt a zombie franchise. Actually similar to 40k in that it has become way too board gamey and bloated with stupid gimmicks.And its community is unable to conceive of any form of content drop that isn't just dlc with a stupidly op lord with a faceroll gimmick.
>>97570388Heavy flamers in necromunda are mogged by firestorm rounds
>>97569974Read for yourself, zoomer.
>Exalted Champion 90 pts>Sigil of Corruption>Master of Mechanisms>Heavy Flamer>Melta Tendril>Daemon Hammer +5 pts>Technovirus Injector +5 ptsThe Heavy Flamer/Melta Tendril are meant to represent the Conversion Beamer (since they get lessen in strength as they get further) and the two melee weapons the tendril shit he's got going on. Been in a Red Corsairs mood so I bought a recast of this guy
>>97570195Lower transport capacity, anti-grav aesthetics, and exists solely to prevent primaris from taking rhinos instead. The latter is the real bullshit part, especially given that CSM along with other factions can still use rhinos just fine.That said, it’s not actually a bad transport on its own apart from the capacity. Moves pretty quick, has some options for customization, and units can charge out of it after moving.
>>97569974The only good one is Luetin
>>97570680I actually am listening to book 1
>>97570164Why is GW obsessed with unhelmeted options, anyway? They’ve been trending towards that recently with most of the upgrade sprues for every faction having more unhelmeted heads than helmeted ones.
>>97570699Just giving people variety if they want it for some reason
>>97570697I have a friend who is also into 40k, in fact he’s the one who introduced me to the hobby. His wife once told me the Horus Rising audiobook was the most homoerotic thing she’s ever listened to.
>>97570313>krieg>attilian>and now steel legionAAAAAAAAAAAA CATABROS
>>97570701Give me a variety of helmets, not faces. They did it just fine in the days of old, nowadays it’s just MkX helms with a little chapter symbol on the forehead. Lazy designs.
>>97570704Women see sex in everything, they're not capable of platonic friendships
Have you ever played in a tournament? Is it fun?
Anyone know how those unit abilities that reduce an attack damage to zero (tyrannofex for example) work for mortals wounds?
>>97570313Catachan is just one guy - rambo from rambo 2 - repeated over and over.
>>97570699I imagine it’s their perception of how people make /theirdudes/. It’s also a nice challenge to flex your painting skills to other players. More cynically, they uniformity of Primaris kits is something they actually want to preserve, as they had no problem giving Sternguard varied helmet options or the “rule breaking” Space Wolves either, where that variety makes the most sense in current lore.
>>97570728I enjoy going into local tournies since i've got a live in a pretty healthy community and my mates and I make a day out of it.Big importance is knowing your army so you don't have to keep checking shit, and being able to take a loss gracefully since sometimes you can't pull a victory out of a match up.If you're just starting out i wouldn't recommend going into one unless you willing to put in the work to learn you army and get it painted.
>>97570735Tyrannofex rule is terribly written but I believe they FAQ it so you activate it when you're about to make a save. With dev wounds you don't get to take a save so IMO it doesn't work.
>>97570704LOKENLOKENGABAL!!!LOKENAAAAYa its kinda gay
>>97569894I like orks :D
friendly reminder to ignore all ritual posters
>watch an old video from a year ago>ALL THE BATTLEFORCES THAT CAME OUT IN 2024 WERE TOTALLY SOLD OUT, THEY FLEW OFF THE SHELVES, GW COULDN'T KEEP EM IN STOCK>go to ebay>see thisWhat the FUCK happened between 2024 and 2026?
>>97570773The price increased so the deals aren't as good and they release new battleforces like every 3 months now instead of 1/year. Since I came back to warhammer halfway through 9th, CSM had like 5 battleforce boxes.
>>97570164AND POLICE THOSE MOOSTACHES!
>>97570783kekI hope eb*y fags are forced to sell for 15% less than current prices. Fuck em.
>>97569894So after gathering 6000 points of Ultramarines, 3600 points of Tyranids, 1000 points of Astra Militarum, and 2000 points of Sigmar stuff, I finally find out (at 2600 points) that I really, really like Chaos in general.Did I fuck up?
>>97570773Did sneakerfags infest then leave the hobby when they figured nobody would buy their overpriced shit?
>>97570851What the fuck are sneakerfags
>>97570856I guess he's talking about scalpers and how people will scalp sneakers, warhammer has been getting scalped by fags for a while now.
>>97570812no
>>97570699it's harder for people to see my Iron Hands are cybrogs if they're wearing helmets instead of having bare heads with half of it being robot.
>>97570867I don't remember posting this, neat.
>>97569936No Angelos- no buy
>>97570871They'll be a dlc subfaction for space marines. Then you can have microfactions like Tarellian mercenaries and exodites.
>>97570728Played 4 rounds at a 2 day event I went to with the boys and didnt qualify for day 2 but the side events on day 2 where more fun than the high tables anyway.Played a themed 4v4 big board game Imperial versus Chaos fighting over who controls a downed titan in the middle and we ALMOST finished (and just called a draw) throughout the morning and wrapped up to go watch the final few matches which was an absolute blast.
>>97570871Its going to have 1 morbillion DLCs just like every big total war game. Blood Ravens will almost certainly get something at some point, even if its just a bespoke faction leader (Angelos). Before then there are a lot more large and important factions to get done.
How common would you say it is to recycled Dreadnought chassis? Do honored brothers and former captains/masters get to sleep in their own body or do they just bury the sarcophagus and plug the next guy into the machine?
>>97570925>How common would you say it is to recycled Dreadnought chassispretty common, when a dread goes down they do they're best to retrieve and repair the chassis since they are considered relics.You've got relic dread chasis that have been around since the GC, Bray'arth Ashmatle is interned into the dreadnought that originally housed the first salamander lord commander, Cassian Dracos.
>>97570934Can firstborn sarcophagi get put into redemptor bodies?
>>97570947Probably, i don't pay much attention to prrimaris fluff but it looks like it uses the same sarcophagus.
>>97569900Lorgar is worse than Pert. Here are the 5 words that describe Lorgar perfectly.Worthless, useless, bitter, resentful and unproductive.
>>97570970but you just described Perty.
>>97570975The Lord Autist was actually productive, unlike Lorgar.
>>97569918Word Bearers don't need anything. They have everything they want in the book already.
>>97570947The sarcophagus is the same one as the old Boxnaughts just layered in armour. So definitely.
>>97570947Yes.
>>97570989Lorgar was able to corrupt 9 legions, Perty gave up trying to take Terra after seething for years about how Dorn's a shoddy builder and he should have been given the job to build the fortifications
>>97570692the rhino surely has to go from chaos factions as well soon, now those marines are being sized up so much.rhino's had to go because it's insane to transport 6 primaris-scale 32mm base infantry models in a box with such a small footprint, let alone 12. it's a problem for sisters too, but honestly they shouldn't be on 32mm bases in the first place. clown cars are a game balance issue allowing you to hide far too many models in too small an area that wouldn't otherwise exist. hopefully they improve terrain rules with 11th so board don't have to be so full of vehicle blocking terrain.
What is the easiest traitor legion to paint?
>>97570697this is not 40k lore though. its a 30k story. why are zoomer to stupid to understand that?
I wonder if Polanon's parents still think he's gay
I've a question.In the fight phase I use precision to kill a squad leader that gives his unit lethal hits, then I kill a bunch of other models in that unit.If they fight on death, do they still get lethal hits? Do they still get it f the leader that got precision'd doesn't roll 4+ to fight on death?
>>97571032At first I thought it was a butt and two legs...
>>97571030it would be iron warriors if it wasn't for the hazard stripessimilarly word bearers and night lords ask for scriptures or lightning effects, to be done properly, so they're outhighlighting or giving volume to black armour is a pain, so black legion is outalpha legion used to rely on freehanded scale patterns, but most people get away with just the horus heresy scheme that can be achieved fairly easy by applying a tint over a metallic basealternatively it's death guard because you can be as messy as you want and still get a technically perfectly done miniature
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
>>97571031do i need to read 10k books to catch up..? wtf...
>>97571046hilarious joke
>>97571033they only get it while the leader is on the board. if he fails his fight on death he's gone no lethals, if he sticks around to fight still lethals.
>>97569900Tactical seige warfare is cooler than reading books to mortals, I'm sorry
>>97571033If i'm not mistaken so long as the they don't succeed in the 4+ they're removed so the rest of the unit doesn't recieve they're buff if they also do fight on death.Big thing is that when a model fights on death they're not removed until they resolve their attacks, so then you should opt out out of fast rolling your attacks until the character is dead and resolved their fight on death ability, then you can start fast rolling to deal with the rest of the unit once the leader model has been removed.This does sound gamey, which it kinda is, but so is the effects you're ddealing with.
>>97570224Do people hate iron warriors or something?
>>97571065nah, but a portion of their fanbase is very autistic and can be proded very easily for entertainment.Perty is a fun dude, but people shouldn't project on to him.
>>97571064>>97571033>>97571060Don't all attacks and fights on death for a unit resolve simultaneously
>>97571001>Lorgar was able to corrupt 9 legionsThat's not productive, that is very much the opposite.Also saying that you only managed to become somewhat good at something AFTER you sell your soul to demons and join forces with them, is not the "own" you think it is.
>>97571071and why are their fanbase extra autistic about em? They think they're cooler than the other marines?
>>97571072Usally yes, but that's due to fast rolling rules, so long as you perform every models action seperately you can deal with a lot of problems easily.
>>97571082No, it's irrelevant whether you fast roll or not.When you have a unit fight, all those attacks resolve at once even if you slow roll because of a schizo loadout of weapons.If you precision out a character first, the character's rules apply to their unit until that fight resolves. Only once a new fight happens do their rules not apply.
>>97571037Death guard it is then!
>>97571072the order of operations in the fight phase doesn't allow it. you have to choose all targets before resolving any attacks, so the fights on death attacks are a seperate block that happens after the initial attacks are resolved - you get to pile in and select all targets, then resolve.
>>97571091If it didn't work simultaneously you could remove the models at the front of a unit in melee and take the unit out of engagement range mid-combat, causing later attacks to be invalid. Or you could, when being shot at, remove models in line of sight, leading to the unit being out of line of sight before all shots resolve and wasting your opponent's shots.Those don't happen because all attacks resolve at the same time.
>cult legion soups on CSM list can't use Dark Pact (they should)>put them in a rhino, use firing deck>they can now indirectly use Dark PactOversight? Retarded rules?
>>97571074>That's not productive, that is very much the opposite.Showing half your brother and thier legions the light of the chaos gods and fight their tyranically father would definitely be seen as productive.>Also saying that you only managed to become somewhat good at something AFTER you sell your soul to demons and join forces with themGiven that Iron warriors routinely would get bogged down dealing with hruud migrations and decide to use inefficient siege stratagies because Perty had a martyr complex, while after the Monarchia the Word Bearers got their shit together and ended up having one of the highest compliance world count by the end of the GC i'd considered that to be good compared to the bogged down medicore iron warriors.Honestly the iron warriors would have been better off if was never found, so it wasn't surprising that when ever Perty rocked up to an iron warriors fortress world to pick up reinforcements it was a coinflip on whether they'd open fire on their dad.
>>97571078General tism is the main factor, and with that extreme adherance to "rules" is a big one.Such as when there was a lore tidbit of an iron warrior chopping of his mutated arm as it had turned into a tentacle and it was difficult to wield his bolter and replaced it with a bionic, normal person would see the utilitarian approach to that that action but a large number of IW'ist saw it as the iron warrior hating chaos and no wanting to use it at all.
>>97571103Firing deck rules are retarded, yes
>>97571124How would you fix them?
>>97571124Transport rules are retarded in general. They're one of my big gripes I hope 11th tries tonfix
>>97571102>Or you could, when being shot at, remove models in line of sight, leading to the unit being out of line of sight before all shots resolve and wasting your opponent's shots.Wait, you can't do that? If I have one termagant is sticking out and he gets shot with some flamers, entire unit behind a wall dies? Damn, we played it wrong then, it's not very intuitive to be fair.
>>97571030aside from the traitor legions you could also consider the smaller warbands like the cleaved
>>97571136Yes that's how it works in 10th
I really liek Kookaburras and want to make a space marine chapter based of their colours, could you guys help me?The only thing i know is that the 1st company vets will have Light blue arms to define them, similar to the difference between the laughing Kookaburra and the Blue winged Kookaburra.
>>97571001Erebus*
>>97570369Shadowheart is so cute
>>97571153this is a very rough idea of a scheme i have
>>97570393That's a damn shame considering the interchangeability of all of the heads and arms across the entire Dark Eldar range was one of their biggest strengths. I think their recent mandrakes are like this too. With all the faces and hair spiral cut into a bunch of pieces. The new archon kit might actually just have normal heads though.
>>97571180he looks edible, like some oreo
>>97571182please don't eat my lauching marines D:
>>97571180Never mix pastels and earth tones, bro. You got to get your fit stuck in one season.
>>97571153I'd probably do earth tones/browns for the armor/body and save the white/cream for just the helmet or something
>>97571185No.
>>97571184i wont but dude even the blue looks like some stamp you see on fancy chocolates
>>97571181>Craftworlds>Corsairs>Harlequins>Kabals>Wych Cults>Haemonoculi CovensWe have those as factions and subfactions already.>Exodites>Mandrakes>CroneworldersWe are still due proper release for them
>>97571188I'll keep that in mind, maybe an inverse so the lighter colours aren't as prominent.
>>97571180Death Guard peepee poopoo marines are that way.
>>97571192Kabals two units and two characters. Covens about the same. Just saying.
>>97571130X number of models from transported unit can fire their guns, all rules apply as normal.
>>97571194Just for that they're now a white scar successor that specialises in goading their enemy out of positions.
>>97571180horrific
>>97571152>Note that, provided at least one model in the target unit was visible to an attacking model and in range of that attacking model’s weapon when that target unit was selected, that weapon’s attacks can still be made, even if no models in the target unit remain visible to or in range of it when you come to resolve those attacks (for example, because models in the target unit have already been destroyed by attacks made with other weapons in the attacking model’s unit).So when it comes to shooting, you do it on model by model basis - only models that see can shoot. But when it comes to tanking damage it's the other way around, entire unit has to take it even models that aren't visible.?Why not just have it work the same both ways? Am I missing something?
>>97571209How would you improve it? I'd love some tips.
>>97570773I guess they make more than enough now? I don't get why people act like its a BAD THING for shit to not sell out and instead remain available
>>97571213when you could only kill what you could see, what people started doing was like driving up their transports to block los to certain models and then picking up characters in the squad who were the only ones who could be seen
>>97571199That sounds way more complicated than what we have now.
>>97571220How? It's straightforward instead of "akchually the impulsor borrows plasma gun from 2 hellblasters and shoots them with his ballistic skill"
>>97571110That's a lot of words for a nerd trying to cope he isn't a retard.
>>97571215I know you're trying to replicate the appearance of the bird but I'd probably go with brown as the main colour.
>>97571180>>97571182When I saw this I thought of an ice cream sandwich.I guess it's kind of like an oreo?
>>97571235Oh wow that's great, thanks anon.
>>97569894if i put a big mek in a tank busta unit; does he get the +1 to hit and +1 to wound against vehicles and monsters that tankbustas get?i would assume yes?
>>97571232What's there to copeabout? Lorgar is a best selling author in the imperium, and he's been happily crusading though the imperium nihilus ever since his little "undivided" pawn destroyed cadia.
>>97571236ice cream sandwich works better actually yeah
>>97571039which models do you hope get refreshed?
>>97570737wrongthey're every 80's vietnam jungle fightan man
>>97571248>Lorgar is a best selling author in the imperiumHe actually isn't. The book he made is not actually part of any of the holy books used by the Imperial Cult.The Lectitio Divinitatus isn't part of any of the "canon" holy books for the Ecclesiarchy, and for a good reason. It was written by a heretical traitor retard who can't follow basic instructions.
>>97570790And shave those sideburns!
>>97571283One of the first things Guiliman did when he woke up was read the ecclesiarchs holy scripture and he had to contain his mental freak out that it was literally the shit Lorgar wrote.Word Bearers routinely infiltrate shrine worlds and use their knowledge to subvert the texts of the imperium's "holy texts" to whip up a cult revolution and can handlely deflect any defence the high priest try to make to take back their flock
Would you play 11th if it used the same core rules as the new Horus Heresy edition? What parts of it would you take or remove? Personally I think 40k would improve massively just by copying the statlines with those mental stats and tactical statuses to replace batlleshock.
>>97571299Battleshock is fine as it is, initative doesn't actually matter in 60% of cases, and I like WS and BS being on the attack
>>97571180>>97571209Maybe think a little outside the box.The Aussie men's field hockey team is known as the Kookaburra. Their main uniform is, of course Green and Gold, but their "Away" or alternative uniform colour is an reddish dark-orange and black.Pic related
>>97571305>and I like WS and BS being on the attackThat's one of the worst changes in 10th IMO. They did it to copy AoS and fucked up the modular nature of statlines in the process. Now you are forced to constantly reference the datasheet because the exact same weapon will have different stats in different units and it makes things like unit champions having better stats.
>>97571307
>>97571307Those work really well together, I'll definitely keep that in mind, thank you.I think I was too obsessed with the backpack/arm coverage idea of imitating irl Snag snatchers.
>>97571309Ditch the brown for white>But kookies are partly brownDitch.The.Brown
>>97571308modular statlines were always kind of stupid and led to dumb shit like Marines having power armor that just gave them the 3+ save already on their profile
>>97571309Good. We need another orange marines player to replace the last one.
>>97571315If you say so...
>>97571324Alternatively
>>97571321That's a really strange thing to say because power armour was wargear and not a statline, unlike weapons which is what we're talking about. It only mattered for rules attached to said armour type like transport restrictions or deepstrike. The armour save was always already in the statline.
>>97571324Look they're not my marines but I think this is a far more pleasing colour scheme than >>97571309If you want brown maybe brown legs? Kokkies don't have black legs
>>97571327I think a more bone/beige colour would work better, orange is too parrotie
>>97571330That's why it was silly, the keyword system is just better, and it killed all the weird FAQ things like does this relic armor count as terminator armor from warzone fenris
>>97571305>Battleshock is fine as it isHow? It's barely a thing when morale is always one of the most important things in warfare. Having good morale rules means units don't need to be hyperlethal because there are ways of dealing with threats that don't involve killin them in a single turn and that's good for the game.
>>97569899>Thread question:Two books in, how is the end-of-edition campaign coming along in your eyes?The second book chracter custimization is the greatest gift to 40k kind ever. Finaly we are getting back and kino is on the menue bois.
>>97571334Alright but armour as wargear still has nothing to do with the change in statlines in 10th because they are not weapons. Regardless, I do think that having a bullet point wargear section like in 7th edition is clearer for reference than having it buried in the keywords.
Haven't been in the 40k scene for a while but I saw the new Ork and Votann detachments. While it's funny that Orks keep winning this edition, I'm interested in some thoughts about the Votann detachment.What do you guys think? Is it a good design choice to skip the whole "collect 7 YP to switch your army rule" and simply pay 3 per turn to switch between the two? On one hand, it's extremely difficult to get into phase 2 before turn 3 normally, but I also mostly dislike detachments that just "fix" the army rule. I'd prefer they just fix the army rule.
>>97571339>Two books in, how is the end-of-edition campaign coming along in your eyes?Unlike every other end of edition campaign the books only seem to be availiable to buy during preorder. I can't get 500 worlds anymore.>The second book chracter custimization is the greatest gift to 40k kind ever.I think it's the worst thing that could happen. The same thing happened to AoS. They got a separate character building system that's barely supported and basically and afterthought and they only use it to have something to point at when they remove all the options and customization from the base rules.
>>97571339I see chaos has taken this thread C:
>>97571298>nuloreIgnored.
>>97571336morale is always a feelsbad mechanic. being able to deny objectives makes it less feelsbad
>>97571341I prefer all wargear being on the dataslate and in the kit
Had to announce themselves
holy fuck that was good
>>97571359Having your models die also feels bad be we aren't about to make them immortal, right? Morale is a tool to deal with a threat, just like killing. But having multiple ways of dealing with threats is better than having just one.
>>97571363What has the dataslate or the kit have to do with the model statlines or the formatting of the wargear list in the unit entry?
>>97570079Lmao that old ass unc piece of shit
>>97571364>bitched and whinedThat's Lorgar though
>>97571365Pretty much everything word bearers fluff wise is great, I'm glad BL told ABD to fucking with is Lorgar murder plot
>>97571336It also makes the units feel more alive and symbolize a sense of self preservation. Now we got simply mindless pawns. To much controll is bad. Its binary. Fully destroy or not. No middle ground. Hence even more armys lose there flavor and everything becomes the same.
>saw a post and felt targeted
>>97571367Mortality is fine, morale just felt worse for most instances. I think people like that a lone guy can survive and possibly do something
>>97571378Yep. Also having a proper morale system means unit rules can be more than the 5 or 6 effects that seems like every single rule in 10th uses. Same with terrain.>>97571381Morale still allows for that to happen though. In fact it feels better when that single lone guy survives and does something if they pass a morale test to not run away.
>>97571381Happend a lot of times in history. Insane bravery is a thing. What the fuck you thing soilders and warriors have done to earn the highest medals and rewards that nations can bestow on them. Just read throu the shit that iron cross, medal of honor and so forth heros have done. Alone and even fewer who survied and can wear the. A singel man can make the diffrence.
Stop fussing and obsessing over that tiny little detail and move on. That highlight is fine. That blend is fine. You can put it down now and go on to the next model.
>>97571392no!
>>97570079Only if you get the unique GK land raider
>>97571392No, I will keep adjusting until I fuck it up to a worse state than I started with
>>97571408I miss old forgeworld man. So many cool units and campaign books just thrown in the trash.
>>97571418Like tears in rain
>>97571342>What do you guys think? Is it a good design choice to skip the whole "collect 7 YP to switch your army rule" and simply pay 3 per turn to switch between the two?Kinda, yeah. I do agree they should just fix the army rule but we're too far into the edition for that now so this is likely the best we'll get. I haven't had a chance to play the new detachment yet (I only get to play once or twice a month tops and I'm still learning the codex so I've been using needgard until literally this week hopefully) but it looks good and makes both parts of the army rule more in the player's hands so I'm all for it.
What's the best armyWhat's the worst armyWhat's the second best armyWhat's the second worst army What is the perfectly balanced 50/50 middle of the road army
>>97571431>BestEither Marines or Orks for their ranges of units & rules.>WorstCustodes, it will always be retarded>second bestI'd say eldars>second worstGSC; they are underdeveloped, except in the character part where they are somehow still lacking in many ways.>perfectly balanced armyT'au
>>97571431>What's the best armymine>What's the worst armyyours>What's the second best armymy second army >What's the second worst armyyour second army>What is the perfectly balanced 50/50 middle of the road armyorks
>>97570737Wow that's some shockingly poor pop culture knowledge
>>97571431Blood AngelsCustodesLeagues of VotannDrukhari Sisters of Battle
>>97571431I like word bearers because their evil and get me birches
posting progress pics for my collage entry im proud of how its turning out so far....slow and steady !
>>97571431>best armyprobably marines for selection>worstleagues of midges (I HATE MIDGETS)>second bestnids>second worstimperial agents>perfectly balancedOrks
>>97571455>birchesWe got tree niggas
>>97571452To be fair, more people know the recent trash Alien and Predator movie than the older ones these days. The Cultural Zeitgeist has shifted.
>>97571423This is probably the most baffling downgradeGenuinely didn't even try.
>>97571456ive been taking my time and im about 12 hours into painting
>>97571461This, I remember coping hard thinking it was just a new unit.As an über fan of Edgar's entire SAUX range I was assblasted by the plastic "remakes".
>>97571458Fuck you too, bigger.
>>97570737as opposed to the guys so identical that there’s a joke about them being literal clones of each other?
>>97570706>>and now steel legionBest I can do is one (1) Yarrick
>>97571459Fudge, I think I've been cooking myself off woth goon too much.I'm just here to give chaise a leg up
>>97571474The votann slave midges are the worst faction easily. Imagine playing a bunch of stunted deformed sexless humans.
>>97571483
dipped out for a couple months, what is the current collage anyway
>>97571474>biggerWill never stop being funnyJUST TAKE IT, YOU... YOU DOUBLE BIGGER
>>97571474Also did you use different pauldrons on this guy? they just look different to me.
>>97571483fudge?
>>97571494This month is "heavy guns", which has been left up to your interpretation so go for it.
>>97570706the steel legion is getting removed from the fluff for good
>>97571499An old Serbian man built these habits, he's alive still so I should let him.know.yhe humour
>>97571497I took the back plates of their power fists and used them as the right pauldron to bulk them up a little.
>>97571503It was still there in the new armageddon campaign though.
>>97571456>>97571464last pic !
Is it wrong that I like something about every faction (except votann)? It feels weird to have interest in almost everything when most people care for like 3 or 4 factions and show little interest in the rest.This "everything is cool!" mentality feels wrong.
>>97571514neat also that's the best way to run votann is to not use any disgusting midgets and just use robits.
>>97571474>*waddles up to you*>*starts squeaking about digging a hole and rock and stone or some shit*
>>97571456>>97571464>>97571522Hell yeah you are making good progress, both with the model and with your painting.
>>97571530something weird about this style, looks gross
>>97571530tnx sisters anon <3
>you are making good progress, both with the model and with your painting.
>>97571425Good point, didn't really think about how it helps us have more control over our rules. It was pretty easy for the opponent to play around our rules before but now it's nice for them to at least have to wonder if we'll switch over or not. If they get into too many objectives? Guess we're switching back to phase 1. Staying off of objectives? Now we're in phase 2 again.I'll probably get a game in with it here soon. Seems interesting enough to try out, because I agree that this is probably the only thing we'll get until 11th. speaking of, do you think our army rule will change again? I'm really hoping that GW makes us more elite again in some way.
>>97571536Anon you forgot to both type a response and also tag the message you are quoting!Are you new? I can teach you how to do it if you want! ^_^
>>97570773increase $, and this CSM one is boring everyone have already Terminators and Marines ,capitan sux
>>97571533A bit but I like odd artstyles
>>97569936negative excitement
>>97571431>What's the best armyNecrons>What's the worst armyImperial Agents>What's the second best armyUltramarines>What's the second worst armyEldar>What is the perfectly balanced 50/50 middle of the road armyCSM
>>97570240while streamlining some stats was nice, removing AVs was fucking disastrous in my opinion
>>97569936>4 factions>rest will 100% be paid dlcim not excited at all honestly
>>97569936I don't want to be forced to play primaris crap so I'll wait for the true firstborn mod. Hell if the mod tools are decent I'll make a full beakie conversion mod myself.
>>97571557armor values were terrible, glad their gone
>>97571549this one is cool
>>97571431>BestOrks>WorstImperial knights>Second bestCSM>Second worstChaos Knights>50/50Orks againMe no likey knights
>>97569969so much this. it really bothers me when people don't realize big e literally made lorgar to be the way he was just to complain afterwards. the sheer audacity to halt your side project and cross the entire galaxy just to shit on your most loyal son is a big retard move desu
uhoh, gw caught stealing designs againhttps://themakerscult.com/shop/product/magna-nemeriss-dt-archpriest-ih-swarmlady/
>>97571539>speaking of, do you think our army rule will change again? I'm really hoping that GW makes us more elite again in some way.Maybe. My thinking is they'll probably tweak YP by either changing how it works, the threshold before you change forms, or just making the new detachment's take on it the standard going forward. It's not a bad rule and it fits the fluff and theme of the army so it wouldn't hurt to keep it with some quality of life tweaks. I'd also love if we weren't a horde army anymore just for the sake of my wallet.
>>97571533Stop consuming so much straight shota, anon
why does sisters of battle have such a low player count?
>>97571571What pisses me off about knights is that they get all this special boy bullshit that means they get to ignore being a giant ass model. After they got to move through terrain every army got their stompy shit errata'd to have the same rule except Orks and Tau. And Tau don't want to move their stompy shit anyway; Orks fucking HAVE to if they ever want to get into melee, which is what GW is flanderizing the army as.
>>97571583>AgainWhat was the last one?
>>97571594Difficult to play and paint and constant nerfs.
Insider here>Eye of Terror's big focus is on the Iron Warriors attempting to claim Forge World Agripinna, which would cripple the Imperium's defenses set up around the Eye itself>On the Imperial side is Archmagos Thulia Ghuld, and General Sebastia Kyser. There is immediate friction between the two as Kyser believes the Cadians under her command are more than enough, and views Ghuld as an interloper and personal insult to Cadia's legacy>The Iron Warriors, meanwhile, serve under Warsmith Kravek Morne and Master of Possession Coor Garnos. The two have a lengthy history, and Morne's tactical acumen combined with Garnos' skill directing Daemon Engines have alrrady crushed a dozen worlds on the way to Agripinna>The battle begins with a a crushing space victory for the Iron Warriors, with the Imperial Navy suffering heavy losses and only barely holding with Ghuld's personal fleet assisting them>During the chaos, dozens of Iron Warriors landers make it to the planet's surface>The Cadians initially find major success, most of what is sent at them are enslaved cultists and traitors with few Astartes deployed against them>Viewing this as sign of weakness, Kyser leads a counter-offensive to push the Heretics off-planet immediately. She notavly ignores Ghuld's warnings of an obvious trap>With Kyser afield, Morne launches the second stage of the assault. Astartes ambush the Imperial assault's backline while Garnos deploys a horde of Defilers to smash their speartip>Kyser and her command squad are butchered, leading to a full breakdown of the Cadian line and chain of command>Even with the Forge World's resources, Ghuld realizes she cannot hold the planet herself. She calls for a retreat, igniting the manufactorums to deny the Iron Warriors their prize.>Bitter over her defeat, Ghuld orders any surviving Cadians to be servitorized, though she commends the Imperial Navy's forces>Despite Ghuld's effort, Morne is able to swiftly re-establish Agripinna for the Iron Warriors
I thought knights were a cringe skew list for tryhards, but people are saying they are the worst or among the worst. What happened? Also holy shit the votann models suck. Apologies to anyone who likes them but they literally look like fucking lego or tonka toys or something. Megablocks. What a disaster imo. I like the WHFB dwarven rune priest aesthetic they have, I wish the vehicles matched that. Rather than being Rock Raiders legos. The guys with the bubbles on their backs are the worst, what were they thinking? If you showed me these models and told me they added dwarves to the game, I would laugh and say stop trolling and show me the real models.
>>97571539>Grassland>Frostfield>All on a Desiccated MudflatHow do I base my guys without breaking my immersion every time I put them on a new table?
>>97571563literally the worst take in this thread (very impressive)
>>97571594Expensive, difficult to paint, squishy bodies and hard to play, limited range, and thematic overlap with Black Templar who are just the older and more popular incarnation
>>97571602>Insider here
>>97571594because they're ugly and stupid, instead of being beautiful and efficient killing machines. It's like GW is so afraid of people actually waifuing SoB that they've overcorrected into them being utterly devoid of virtue and unlikeable in any conceivable way
>>97571594They were made of metal until just a few years ago and didn't have a real codex between 2nd and 9th edition
>>97571602>Bitter over her defeat, Ghuld orders any surviving Cadians to be servitorizedHOLY BASED
>>97571614Except for 8th
>>97571583
>>97571571Interesting color scheme on the knights
I've got chaos fatigue so fucking bad bros
>>97571594Boys don't like playing with female dolls.There's no other reason.
>>97571590YP are definitely healthier for the army than JT could ever be, even if I am a fan of the grudge meme. I think a great way to do YP would be to actually make both sides of the army rule have impactful buffs that make you want to switch between on a whim. I'd love to make the decision to blow YP on extra buffs and bonuses here and there in order to play the army as a fast-attacking aggressive force, while having the option to save YP to become more defensive once we're in position (or just be defensive the whole game). At the moment the first part isn't really there for me. The buffs for phase 1 are too sparse and avoidable for it to feel impactful so the army rule mostly feels like a race to get into the actual good buffs while trying not to lose too much of your army beforehand.
>>97571611Sisters are not ugly at all wtf
>>97571606sob had their first rules a whole edition before black templars thoughever
>>97571627look at the cover of the codex anon
>>97571617Damn i thought that box came out in 9th for some reason.I even went and bought it in person from my local GW.
>>97571627NTA but he was probably talking about the sculpts
>>97571629And then had index rules for a decade while being metal only
>>97571637Ye. Their 8th codex was kinda mixed though, it had the problem all 8th codices had where it was very strong but poorly internally balanced so you were pigeonholed into one Order (iirc it was bloody rose)
>>97571627Posting unofficial art doesn't prove that they look hot.Also go look at the most recent codex covers and art that has sisters of battle, or look at their models.All of them look either fuck ugly, or they look like 50 year old men in drag.
>>97571627most of their range is rather shit. Celest is a nice model, and arco flags are pretty neat, but they have lost a lot of great stuff, all their cool inquisitor models are in agents or legends, their walkers all look worse, repentia. At least they got that killteam recently.
>>97571642Might've been Valorous Heart actually, I only ever got one game with them in with their 8th dex and I play Ebon Chalice
>>97571646They have the best rhino variants in the game imho
>>97571642Yeah I think I remember it pushing towards a very melee heavy army with bloody rose.I remember the miracle dice being stupidly powerful but that might have been the beta codex thing they released before I was mostly playing my admech back in 8th and only had a few squads of metal sisters finished by the time the codex came out
>>97571598Lhykhis. They stole her from artel w
>>97571605NtA but just thinking about AV with different stats for front, side and back makes me not want to play anymore. the new system is shrimplified for sure but it's also more streamlined which is a huge plus
>>97571646Nah that's a wild take, repentia are a downgrade but the only real stinkers in the range are the nundams and those are 9th models anyway.
>>97571661I like it as a concept. I have no faith in their ability to implement it well.
>>97571583This looks nothing like the new priest
>>97571592no nothing like that, meant it looks weird is all
>>97571661Removing vehicle armor facings made balancing vehicle survivability near-impossible and caused knock-on consequences for the entire balance of the game. Rather than simply encouraging players to hit it from the weak angles and creating tactical intrigue, now it doesn't matter which side you hit it from, so that's one less reason to bother trying to outmaneuver your enemies (the other being how stupid cover rules have become). So the entire vehicle's profile has to be balanced around hitting it from any angle, but it's also based on just regular T and save values like any infantry, so they need inflated wound counts, so now anti-armor weapons have to do extra damage to actually kill them quickly, which makes multi-damage weapons also the meta for killing multi-wound infantry, which is a lot of infantry these days because weapons have been powercreeping to deal with vehicles in a reasonable time frame...
>>97571673shut the fuck up you vague posting faggot no one cares what you think gives you the ick
>>97571683I am not being vague I outright said it looks weird fucking hell
>>97571033Fight on death happens before you finish your activation.If the leader was alive at the start of the activation, his buff lasts for the whole activation.
>>97571594It's embarrassing as a man to play an all female army in a game where you have to interact with people IRL.
>>97571721unironically grow up
>>97571727nta I think the people who judge should grow up
>>97571710No they don't. Fight on death happens after the attack sequence is over.When leader is destroyed he stops being part of the unit so he no longer provides a buff. Just because he's not removed, if he gets to death on death, doesn't mean he's not destroyed.
>>97571239The big mek is a model in this unit, so yes
>>97571682I don't see the problem balancing wise with D2 or D3 weapons since bodyguard units are supposed to die anyway and without devastating wounds there's nothing to worry about. seems more like a problem for elite armies like bananas which are overpowered anyway
>>97571342>Orks keep winning this edition>Implying
Morning everyone, lets have a productive Warhammer Tuesday!
>>97571721it's okay if you feel that way but I would rather play against a SoB gooner or a highly fetishized tau army than against a SM player regardless of flavor
>>97571746Every time Orks get a rules update they break the back of the game for a couple weeks until they're nerfed.
>>97571727I'm just saying how it is in general. Calm down bruh.
>>97571737Ah you're right, a model that fights on death counts as being destroyed and doesn't count as being in its unit
>>97571614They had the Witch Hunter codex that was basically Sisters of Battle with inquisition side show. It had a lot of questionable things compared with the CA rules from 2001 like Retributions missing Heavy Flamers. Dominions having extremely overpriced special weapons. Immolator loosing its "fast" rule meaning it can't really use its weapon while going fast. Repentinas being extremely overpriced for what they are.Priest needing to be attached to a squad also made whatever unit it was attached to extremely schizo meaning you either wanted him on your Celestian squad and messing up your faith mechanic, Repentia squad eating a lot of points or buying him a inquisitorial storm trooper squad.It was not even fluffy just annoying to use.
What can I proxy these guys as
>>97571829Tau battlesuits or infantry depending on how big they are
>>97571829nothing keep your hobbies separated
>>97571829JUST WILD BEAT COMMUNICATION
>>97571829damn, are these the starter sets? they're are kinda ass.
>>97571829Nothing, they would look atrocious on the table with other Warhammer figurines.
Question regarding the Crucible of Champions character creation, can I equip my Exalted Champion in Terminator Armour only with the gear marked as "Terminator only", or could I give him let's say a bolt pistol for example? I haven't played yet, still in the assembling/painting process.
>>97571853No, those are samples of their skirmish game models that they included with the last lineup of TCG starter decks
>>97571855yeah it would make warhammer minis look like garbage
Post models
>>97571861You can give them pistols, yes.
>>97571877
vgggghhh
>>97571882
>>97571887
>>97571846She looks cute pattable.
>>97571829>roughly Primaris sized>roughly Marine shaped (for the most part)Take a guess.
>>97571898Although "roughly" is very generous on the dimension side of things.
>>97571898>blue zaku
>>97571583The only measly things in common here are elements that are already established admech aesthetics
>>97571683why are people now using "vague posting" to describe completely random not-at-all-vague posts
>>97571829do all anime mechas have those dumb unnecessary blades?
>>97571932its a reddit thing, these slimes have no personality.
>>97571913Every friend group has>the leader (sergeant)>the cool guy (helmetless)>the "special" dude (far right)>normal joe (far left)>the Giant (zaku)
>>97571898Do people just pretend to like gundams? They're so ugly.
>>97571947The anime fans reddit out over the main continutiy and how grounded it is, i.e how much mud and damage can a mobile suit have. the modelers usually pick a favorite suit like the nu gundam and then constantly buy the kit and resin upgrade kits to try and fit their minds eye
>>97571947Yes, it grossed 5 billion dollars ironically.
>>97571947yes anon people have different tastes, it sure is weird you never noticed that until now
>>97571947>Do people just pretend to like 40k? Its all so ugly
>>97571958yeah we do, most of us here are paid shills
>>97571947Not being able to comprehend that people have different likes and dislikes, is a high sign of autism.
Hey how come the homunculi do all sorts of shit like turning someone into a living sentient museum or a beam of light in the books yet all they create in the game are pain engines and some weapons?
>>97571962Please be patient with me as I navigate this non neurodivergent friendly space.
>>97571939Which blade, the things on their heads? In the context of Gundam they're usually some sort of antennae/communications device.>>97571947Plebs come in for the Gundams, real men stick around for the cool grunt suits
>>97571971generally the stuff on their heads and shoulders and having super big jetpacks, why are they so spikey and triangular usually?
>>97571977well you see there is this world war 2 german truck and...
>>97571977Because it's cool.
>>97571994I mean I guess, but does it really have to be so prominent? Do they have non humanoid stuff
>>97571977>generally the stuff on their heads and shouldersReal world reason: The original Gundam drew a lot of design inspiration from Samurai armor (Primarily in the head design and skirt). >having super big jetpacksBecause John Bandai realized having big backpacks that you can swap in and out as a mid-season upgrade nets you even more big bucks. Plus what >>97571994 said.
GUN DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!
Take me back man. You don't know what you got til it's gone.
What the hell is an archmagos terminus? Is this an established role or is GW making shit up for the new model, like with the nekrosor?
>>97572021The weirdest thing about this is that seems from the 90s but it was well in the 2000s since it's based on Dawn of War.
>>97572026Um we can't use the term Ordo Reductor here, sweaty. Forgewo- I mean Specialist Games owns that.
>>97572026Magos and Archmagos have a million specialties they can be and a lot of them overlap too. AFAIK its a new kind of archmagos but it isn't groundbreaking, it'd be like hearing theres a new type of bolt round that explodes into sticky ooze or something
>>97571594I don't know if this is entirely the reason, but I always found warrior women to be odd. Even the most elite units will die in droves and I would prefer for my women not falling to the same fate.
>>97571772good thing they didn't get any buffs this edition (not counting new detachments that got instantly nerfed). they never performed over 50% all edition besides the very small window when more dakka gave sustained 2
>>97572021This is what the kids call "s o v l"
>>97572036they talked about them here in warhammer conquest
>>97572029The "new" Terminators (recently replaced ofc) are the main giveaway
>>97571968Because in the game they are just there to harvest new test subjects to perform all those experiments on. Pain engines are made explicitly for collecting souls and cutting off body part samples.
>>97572059what cool shit can gw add to the dark eldar army?
>>97572045Yes.Though actually White Dwarf 305 was either near the end (plastic WHFB Giant issue), or way past the Golden Age (ended pre-LotR SBG) of White Dwarf, depending on how groggy you are.
>>97572071Maximum grog is that WH was never good
>>97572071I don't remember well but WDs did get quite worse in around 2012. The form may have improved, but the content took a noisedive
>>97571594Honest question: why would I play zealous girl "marines" in Black armor with white/red details when I could just as easily play zealous actual Marines in Black armor with white/red details?
>>97572070There's a looooong fucking list of lore stuff from the book trilogy and such. Someone made this joke codex list a long time ago.
>>97572081because black templars are reddit
>>97572081Better question: why are there no army of faith rules in this edition for using them both together?
>>97572081If you love Jeanne D'Arc and crazy catholic church shenanigans, then you play SoBs. If you love zealous crusaders, you play BTs.They are both insane christians but the nuance is quite different
>>97571879Sweet, shenanigans will ensue. How are the chances this will carry over to the next edition?
>>97571861slightly off-topic but I think terminators should have access to non-terminator weapons. Give me heavy bolter terminators, give me shotgun terminators, give me missile launcher terminators.>Blood Angels terminators with frag cannonI came
>>97572096Terminators already have cyclone missle launchers? like I get it if you want more missles
>>97571604someone answer this anon I want to know too.
>>97572085any robots or vehicles or new pain engines in the list?
>>97572096No it looks wrong.Look at this guy with a Bolter-style combi weapon instead of a Storm Bolter-style one. Doesn't look right.
>>97571604do jet black bases like some of the BSF minis had, you can say its blackstone to others but to you its keeping them as game pieces and having the base be outside the world of the game
>>97572099Cyclone is for salvos/area of effect, missile launchers are for precision
>>97572104I don't see the issue + chaos termies have had combis for a long time.
>>97572104An iron hands... hairetic?
i am new to 40k both hobby and playing, my friends pressured me into it (they're all hobbyists of multiple years but only just got into playing past few months) - i decided on admech as my army, which i was informed is a bad idea because they're hard to paint + play but i do not care because i think they're the coolest. how do i build a competent army without accidentally fucking myself over longterm when i don't know what i'm looking for? i have the combat patrol + kastelans
>>97572081>Black armor with white/red detailsYou know you don't have to pick Our Martyred Lady, right?
>>97572115>+ chaos termies have had combis for a long time.Stellar reading comprehension
>>97572115ewwjust prefer them side-mounted on Termies
>>97572118>how do i build a competent army without accidentally fucking myself over longtermThere is literally no way to do this, the rules will change and you just have to roll with itAdmech have been absolute powerhouses and also the worst faction to play by a mile depending on edition and what codexes have been released.Every faction has this problem and it just comes with the game.
>>97572118>my friends pressured me into itNot a good start>I do not care because i think they're the coolestBased + correct. Rules are fickle, models are eternal>army building for long termYou don't know what balance changes / new editions are gonna do to your army. Either you stick to one edition and you can perfect your army, or you adjust it as time goes.Buy the models you love, learn to use them properly, and if needed fill the holes with models you like.Buying models you don't actually like/love is a long term trap that poisons your spirit.The secret is the army doesn't matter as much as the people you play with, be picky
>>97572115>saw and blade can't reach anything unless the marine lies down
>>97572143
>>97572147Turns out GW is also retarded.
>>97572143He also cant use any of those tools
>>97572137>the rules will change and you just have to roll with itso is it a good idea to just buy whatever or is there like a specific structure that will probably be best to stick by, e.g a certain amount of a certain type of units etc? or is there resources i should just pay attention to? i don't want to chase metas or anything i don't mind having sub-optimal builds i just want to know how to construct something coherent>>97572140i say pressure half-jokedly, at first i didn't want to get into it but i didn't know admech existed (theyre space marine/deathguard/etc adjacent players and the aesthetic didn't interest me) but i've enjoyed painting my combat patrol
>>97572159Best start is always>1 HQ>2 troops
>>97572143or the marine holds up the part to operate on, or the servo has telescopic or repositioning functions that aren't shown on the miniature
>>97572101There are three new named pain engines mentioned in the Codex alongside the entry for Rakarth, who is basically guaranteed to be coming back soon if he got a full page spread in the book.>Cacogheist is "dimensionally unstable", Nyxos "vomits shadows", and Coechus has a "perverse hunger and talent for stealing minds".Expect at least one of them (probably another dual-kit) with his return next edition.
>>97572048>legio cybernetica>electropreistsHUH
>>97572170All that seems like an intern job. wtf even is Warhammer Conquest?
>>97572170in 7e they were in the cybernetic codex if memory serves
>>97572168sweet, what about machines, like walking torture devices, or cybernetic reapers or fuckin eldar psykers strapped into a machine to use their powers
>>97572159Get a small handful of troops, one or two HQs, a transport/vehicle and some heavy weapons and you are good for a base of your army. Build up slowly, don't rush in all at once.I have added one model to my admech since 2021 and that was a kitbashed not-cawl I made from 5 different models.
>>97572118Choose what part of Admech interests you the most and build your list around that. Like Skitarii the most? Spam the fuck out of Ranger and Vanguard gunlines in your list with some heavy support to back them upIf you want to have a big fuck you to your Marine friends that also works thematically you could go and grab a Knight and ally it in
>>97572118Rule of cool.
>>97572168>cronos parasite engine: sucks soulstentacles arms, tentacle legs, no tail>nyxos umbral engine: produces shadowsmelee arms, tentacles legs, no tail>coechus mind engine: controls peopletentacles arms, no legs, tail>cacogheist spectral engine: etherealno arms, tentacles legs, tail>talos pain engine: hurts an awful lot, m8normal arms, no legs, tail
Love.
>>97572206Knights in admech are super fluffy
>>97572214quirky chungus
>>97572104Looks just fine.The whole "wrongness" is just because you've only ever seen termies with side by side combi weapons.This over and under combi melta looks plenty cool and works just fine for termies.
>I have two personalities.
>>97572242and both are gay
>>97572242does the gene seed make you photogenic?
>>97572242>I can be your angel or your demon
>>97572168You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think that everything namedropped in a codex is coming as a model
>>97572209>nyxos umbral engine: produces shadowsdamn it would be sweet if you could use this for fancy mandrake detachments
>>97572209shame that they do different shit yet look the same
>>97572261*angle*debilGet it right
>>97572188There's Castigator Wraiths in the lore but they have never made it to the table top. Essentially Wraith Guard but with their soul holding property exploited to torture the souls in it as fuel for their psychic weapons and armors instead of being simple ghost pilots.
>>97572286I think I said only one of them might make it as a model in my post. Grotesques and Rakarth seem the only guarantees for next edition though.
>>97572318a chaos old man! quick kill him before he goes He-man...wait that's tzeentch
>>97572309deldar are sometimes too edgy, is there anything ever in the lore were they had a normal moment or something? I mean even the Orks have tons of serious demented moments
>>97571640And?
>>97572335They have to keep the edginess topped off or they lose this souls and die. They tried being nice once and it literally almost killed them.
>>97572090thanks, now I understand why I gravitate more towards sisters
>>97572331It's Manuel Castañón's self-made portrait for his second Rogue Trader run.
>>97572359i just wanted to make a joke, you know the fantasy tzeentch he man dudes
Zaku II High-Mobility Type Robert Gilliam Custom is my favourite primarch.
>decide to finally get some painting done>roommate stopped going outside to smoke>my painting room next door is now a hazy cigarette smoke filled gas chamberfuck me
>>97572381>Being friends with a sm*ker
>>97572381He smokes indoors? Do you realize how filthy and unsanitary that will make your place? The smoke will settle on everything. This has to be a joke right..?
Idk how to use Crisis suits. Being vehicle they can still shoot non-blast guns in melee (at -1), right? And they can also fall back and shoot at -1 too?Also, this stratagem doesn't activate Melta from fusion guns, right? Because they deepstrike "MORE THAN" 6in away
Cata-chan
>>97572406can you not read or something
>>97572431pretty and all but that aint no catachan, that's an anime girl
>>97572461I think I read and interpreted it correctly unless I'm missing something, are you okay anon?
How can I use myrmidons, thallax and domitars in 40k AdMech? I know I can use thralls as basic skitarii and castellax as kastellans. Also how good are the AdMech knights?
>>97572415>Being vehicle they can still shoot non-blast guns in melee (at -1), right?Yes>And they can also fall back and shoot at -1 too?They can only fall back and shoot if they have a Battlesuit Support System.>Also, this stratagem doesn't activate Melta from fusion guns, right? Because they deepstrike "MORE THAN" 6in awayCorrect.
>>97572029DoW came out during 4th edition. It's a time capsule of the times before 40k started going to shit.
>>97572086If anything there anti-reddit desu
>>97572492Could you use myrmidons as the new heavy skitarii vanguards?
>>97571602>dozens of Iron Warriors landers make it to the planet's surfaceThere's DOZENS of them!
>>97572431Awooga>>97572463Don't tell me she needs more scars and cyber limbs
>>97572525Those are on 32mm and myrmidons are on 50s they are huge. Kataphrons might be a better fit.
>>97572498>They can only fall back and shoot if they have a Battlesuit Support System.Then how do Russes shake off squads assaulting them? They just shoot them off their hulls with their defensive weapons? And off each other's hulls with their Main Guns?
Before we got all the skitarii and admech models and everything got codified, what were the skitarii like? Cyber-guardsmen taken from the forge worlds?
>>97572431This body type is how I picture female marines to look like.
>>97572540Cyborg troops for the admech. Their lore hasn't changed much it was just a lot more vague before.
>>97572539Some IG detachments have fall back and shoot stratagems
>>97572546Female marines would recieve mamasectomies as part of the organ implantation process.
>>97572540Mostly the same except they didn't have transports and were a separate faction from the cult mechanicus (don't ask why it's stupid corpo reasons) but they didn't have any of the retarded davinci looking shit.
>>97572554But where will the gene seed be stored?
>>97572540Their descriptions and depictions were inconsistent and ranged from basically what we got, to very generic cyborg soldiers, to strange blanchitsu freaks that wore animal skulls and tribal fetishes
>>97572534>50mmDamn, didn't know that.
>>97572554Nah. Also that's heresy because it denies the human form.
>>97572540They tended to be less uniform. When they showed up in the books they tended to be custom built by techpriests as their guards and enforcers. Admittedly those were the special ones that were in some priests retinue rather than the rank and file.
>>97572540heavily enhanced humans bristling with weapons to the point they were basically mechanicus space marinesthe s o y coded garbage we have now is gws eldar designer making them imperial eldar
>>97572563in the balls I'm sorry
>>97571602>General>Her
>>97572540More body horror, less da vinci looking rejects. More like the 30k models.
>>97571602I've had enough of Warsmith Kiki. It's always a name like Harkonen, Khrave, Horn.I would literally forbid GW from using letters R and K. They think they create aggressive sounding names, but all they achieve is more of the same.Either that or bullshit names that mean "evil" or "Death" in Spanish (2nd most common language after Chinese), like Malo (Malok Karto), Malvado (Urtzi Malevolus), etc
>>97572586Anon she fails and gets all her troops either killed or servirorized are you really gonna try to pull this stunt?
>>97572587This doesn't look much different from the current skittles either.Only different is some proportional differences.Modern skittles all have back packs, wear robes, have shoulder pads, robot legs, etc.Not really that much more body horror than the new ones, this guy just looks like he has lost his balance is about to topple over.
>>97572587That's actually a darkmech dude
>>97572570Space marines are mutants and heretical. Its ok though because they're useful
>>97571602>She calls for a retreat, igniting the manufactorums to deny the Iron Warriors their prize.Noooo! Agrippinaaaaa AAAAAAAAAH
>>97572603>Not really that much more body horror than the new ones,he has three fetuses wired to his chest
>>97572529less anime face
>>97572608Space marines aren't mutants.All of their organs are fully organic and made from human genetic material and human stem cell tissues.They are no more mutants as a person who has gotten a lung transplant.Arguably they are more closer to biological "cyborgs" than anything else.
>>97572613That's not body horror, body horror is basically forcefully mutating a person.Your image is basically just the Imperium being Imperium. They even have cherubs.They are not averse or strangers to using human body parts as religious artifacts.
>>97572616anime website
>>97572603>This doesn't look much different from the current skittles either.The base ones? Sure. From the retarded units they released in the second wave? It's night and day.
>>97572620>they are no more mutants as a person who has gotten a lung transplant They have quite a few extra bits that go beyond normal human organs>acid spit>gaining memories from eating brainsEven disregarding that, the emperor also saw them as lessers. Planning the same treatment for them that he gave the thunder warriors
>>97572604From the heresy, before they had time to change at all. Both sides looked the same.
>>97571598Picrel
>>97572620>All of their organs are fully organic and made fromWarp based science, they're mutants
>>97572653Just saying is all
>>97572672damn everyone who made these conversions to hell for influencing the actual obliterator design
>>97572620Missing the point, which is "what is seen as a mutant"
>>97572021You started after primaris you try hard.
>>97572693>t. nomodel baitnigger
>>97572672>surfing on rocks in the lava
>>97572540More like 30k. Also used Chimeras and shit.
>>97572672Damn those are pretty cool lookin, like Chaos Centurions.
>>97572722By makuta
>>97571583Ya no, and she was also most likely sculpted at th sand time as Cawl. Who this sculp is based on. GW does sculpts in batches usually years ahead of time.
>>97572663>Even disregarding that, the emperor also saw them as lessers. Planning the same treatment for them that he gave the thunder warriorsYeah, that's not canon, and also really stupid and makes no sense when you actually think about it.Since everything else the Emperor did with the primarchs and marines and how designed them just points to that he was going to just turn them to more civilian jobs during peace time, after the Great Crusade has concluded and conquered vast majority of the former human territories.Like good examples of this are how Guilliman and his marines being good logistics and being governors.Or how both Pert and Dorn are very good at building and demolition work.Horus being a good diplomat and negotiating.Also the whole idea that the Emperor is just going to entirely kill off major part of his military forces is extremely stupid.What is his plan gonna be when more and more necrons start waking up and threaten the Empire?Or if the orks manage to start up a gigantic WAAAGH that sweeps the galaxy?Or tyranids when they invade the galaxy.Even more so when you realize his plan to kill off the marines was also to orchestrate the Heresy, yes that shit was planned by both the Emperor and Malcador to happen always. And that was their plan to kill off majority of marines and the primarchs.Which even stupider when you realize there's hints the fluff that after the humanity has been reunited, the Emperor would've turned his attention to the mechanicum and then started a civilwar with them to fully subjucate them.Ie. remove Mechanicus' power, religion and institutions so no one can rival him.How is the Emperor gonna do this civilwar and win it, when he is first planning to cull his best military forces? Barring regular human joes.Therefore I elect to ignore all of that stupid shit and treat it as "not true".Since the writers have said "Everything is canon, not everything is true."
>>97572579trying too hard >>97572548
>>97572746Bro chaos wouldn't lie to me lmao
>>97572668cope, you got BTFO'd
>>97571299I'm gonna be honest I can't think of a single thing that 10th does better than HH3.0 other than maybe game length being 5 turns instead of 4.
>>97572705>calls others nomodels>doesn't post his with timestamp with the accusationlmao fuck off shitstirrer
>>97572746
>>97572770don't reply to me
So, if I have a BS4+ unit, and he attacks an aircraft at night while shaken...all those debuffs can only ever ad up to -1. So he hits on a 5+.Imagine he then gains Critical hits on a 5+. Nothing change, did it? He still hits on 5s.Critical hits only do something if they are combined with SUSTAINED or LETHAL HITs, right?
>>97572780ha ha ha
>>97572761Heresy doesn't have orks
>>97572786now that's some proper necron terrain
>>97572784Glad you found it funny, feel free to save it and share!
>>97572786Sure but I'm talking about the core rules. They just look better to me in every way. I don't think there's a single part or mechanic of the core rules in 10th that is better. Even flyer rules are cooler in 30k.
>>97572761Gotta second the other Ork anon here man. No Orks, no interest.
>>97572782You are correct. Math is an opinion.
>>97572755you think pic you linked looks anything like the current skitarii?
>>97572548>>97572579Was there any descriptions of what they were armed with? Lasers, bullets, bolters, weird admech-tech, anything like that?
>>97572831It does, you shouldn't be participating in this hobby if you're blind
>>97572770Do reply to me.
>>97572761That's a nice blood angel marine.I like the amount decorations on it, not too little and not too much. It's tasteful.Would be cool to see a primaris scale/primaris proportioned version of this model.
What's the most common kitbash? Like one so ubiquitous that everyone who collects that faction tries it at least once, whether because it's easy or because the official model looks like shit built normal.
>>97572870Looted wagon, easily. It's damn near an official Ork model anymore.They just need a real datasheet.
>>97572853I heard you the first time now fuck off
>>97572846fucking retard
Does have any pictures of old retro models but recreated with newer modern kits?I think those look pretty neat.
>>97572881Mmm yes melt down when you have no rebuttal your impotent rage really proves your point
>>97572761The SINGLE thing 40k does better than HH3.0 is that many weapons do have a niche despite doing away with Wargear costs:Power blades kill armored enemies, but chainswords still have their use, as they kill unarmoured multitudes more efficiently than power weapons do.It's the single example that comes to mind. For all other weapons, they did away with cost before balancing guns with one another.That way nobody takes a bolt pistol when they could take a plasma pistol that is better on every metric for the same price.But at least Chainswords do have a use unlike before, where they were taken because you couldn't afford replacing them with something else
>>97572878Why are you mad?
>>97572870To follow up the anons reply, I rarely see an ork army that doesn't have some sort of kitbashed trukk. Granted some people take the piss and just get oversized toy vehicles but some of us have a crack at least
>>97572898
>>97572746>Also the whole idea that the Emperor is just going to entirely kill off major part of his military forces is extremely stupid.he already did it oncethere are protocols to do it again
>>97572909mental illness
>never noticed that he's standing on a reaver headThat's actually pretty awesomeShame about everything else.
I started some models and instantly lost all motivation
>>97572870firstborn marine helmet on a primaris body
>>97572945Why?
>>97572918I played against someone who attached that guy to a massive squad of shock troopers and it felt like he did fuck all for the entire game, apart from farming cp
>>97572801yeah it was...hilarious
>>97569936unfortunately it's gonna be the case where we have to wait genuine years to get some of the main factionsabove 0% chance that it takes them releasing total war 40k 2 to add the chaos legions
>>97572892I find that weapons in 30k are way better balanced though. Every weapon family has a distinct niche and the weapons in each family have a clear progression in power. Even in your own example a chainsword, though theoretically better at killing unarmored targets still costs the same as a power sword while only getting a single extra attack, meaning the power sword will always be better in practice.
>>97572918I've always pondered trying to make either this guy or dreir as a GSC riding a patriarch but I just have zero desire to buy either of them
Finished these Eldritch Raider scheme rangers today. Fucking fiddly to paint in parts, probably the worst of any Eldar kit yet, glad they are done.
>>97572815But if they copied the 30k core rules into 40k you'd still have orks.
>>97572967He has orders too so he was probably buffing 3-4 units a turn >3-4 buffs and free CP is fuck all
>>97572911The Terminus Decree was already revealed to be something way stupider than a marine-killing super virus to eradicate all the legions like was theorized.
>>97573024He was doing that but that squad just stayed in his deployment zone, i was able to deep strike and sit on his home objective as there was no screening going on
>>97572988There's no fucking way they wait for a sequel to add chaos of any kind. For one thing, they already have all the loyalist marines modelled
>tfw finally found a website selling a shit tonne of resin / printed basing bitsTbf I should just get a 3d printer myself and do it
>>97572786but it has many highly scrapable kits. luv me sum nice walkers
>>97572091I say very high. It will probably become it's own pdf at the start, later supplemented by it's own book. If you are asking if the pistols to a terminator will carry on, maybe. There are many fixes they will probably do, it could be that Terminator becomes it's own thing instead of a specialty.
>>97572870For Deldar it was grotesques (before the got Legends'd) using crypt horror bodies and Talos bits, since that kit leaves heaps of spares. This was the more cost effective, pleasant to build and better looking option than buying a unit of multiple of the same pic related finecast breakdancer model. Ogres or ratogres were also sometimes used.Admech might be using nighthaunt robes to make techpriests. Olynder as a starting point for a Cawl proxy is especially recurrent. This is a bigger thing for 30k mechanicum since they have actual rules for build-your-own priests.CSM have making chosen from legionaries or HQs from any infantry. The one you most often saw was using the havoc sergeant for a chaos lord.
>unironically got theseNo idea what minis bases to put them on, feel like it would look great on a weirdboy base or something
>>97573025The new terminus decree is unironically cool and based and all the people who think new bad are sheep retards who cant think for themselves>imperial civil wars are always based (badab)>gray knights v custodes over the fate of the imperium is cool>custodes being forced into further traumatic conflicts of interest is cool>inquisition stuff is cool>malcador 100% could have foreseen this exact situation do occur thousands of years laterIts a high stakes interesting imperial infighting happening that can successfully resolve itself into the status queue, which is all the ingredients to a good narrative recipe.
Just read Infinite and the Divine, do Trazyn and/or Orikon have any non-comedic portrayals? I know other 40k books are more action and drama-based, but IatD was just kinda funny in a British way. I'm just curious if those two ever get any badass moments.
>>97573025the terminus decree the grey knights have is not necessarily the marines-killing junk some writer added in a HH story.Both can be a thing.
>>97572870Not wholly a 40k one but before AoS got a plastic arch-warlock every single skaven player bought the tech-priest dominus and stuck a rat head on it.
Any chapter with this aesthetic?Only chapters that come to mind are: Carcharodons, Executioners, Mortifactors, Flesh Eaters
>>97572483The indoor smoker's fumes are getting to him
>>97573064Wait... grotesques aren't a thing anymore?I don't know it people still use Legends units like Crisis Commanders (that are neither Coldstars nor Enforcers). I do know nobody should ever use regular Crisis, as Fireknife, Sunforge and Starscythe seem to be better for a lot cheaper!
>>97573067Put them on small bases and make an area terrain base for them.
Can flamers benefit from Lethal Hits?
>>97573070Yeah, I don't get why it caused such outrage
I think we at image limit lads
>>97573125it only caused outrage among retards with black templar pfps on twitter
>>97573100Are you ignoring Exorcists as a meme or something?
>>97573100Exorcists are loyalist word bearers.Just use those.
>>97573106Yup, cleared out of the codex along with Rakarth, and beastmasters+animals now that their finecast kits are oop. Presumed/rumoured to be returning in 11th edition.
>>97573079Necrons in general just usually have fairly comedic depictions. Off the top of my head necron characters I've read>cawls robot hate-fuck robot wife>guy who thinks hes still alive and delusionally tries his best for his people don quixote style while attended to by his loyal bodyguard>guy obsessed with honor duels who will descend from the skies to style on a space marine captain before beaming back up
>>97572918What I like about this dude is that his helmet is inspired by old Jes Goodwin sketches
>>97573116no because they don't roll to hit
>>97573116Can you roll a critical hit with a flamer?
>>97573167I assumed not, but asked nonetheless>>97573153Thanks y'all
>>97573079fall of cadia plays trazyn a bit more seriously
>>97572870some have become offical in the past persay>broadsides holding the weapon how they do as opposed to on the shoulder>legged necron destroyers>putting a zoranthrope head on a hivetyrant >grandmaster in nemesis dreadknight
>>97573116Im usually happy to answer rule related questions no matter how silly but this is just too retarded for me
>>97573181>he wasn't reddit enough for my liking
Are we entering new bread territory?
>>97573202>page 6I'm not doing it.
>>97573208>>97573208>>97573208We hit image limit so heres a new thread
>>97573070It's lame they kinda just plopped it in a codex though
>>97572889faggot
>>97571603>What happened?When they nerfed them from being nearly unbeatable if you didn't have a tailored list.
>>97573145>Necrons in general just usually have fairly comedic depictions.Someone hasn't read the Twice Dead King books / The new book Tombworld
