Verminous Valour edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread>>97557178>Thread QuestionWhich lesser known area of the Warhammer Fantasy would you like to see expanded and why?
>TQTyrions asshole. I want to see what his prolapsed shitter looks like after it’s known the taste of a northern warrior.
>>97570039>Which lesser known area of the Warhammer Fantasy would you like to see expanded and why?All of them
I have decided to give up buying models for Lent.So you can expect the new Cathay box to come out and sell out immediately some time before April 2nd.
>>97570360Kek, then it makes the sacrifice all the more worthy. Good on you, I still need to figure out what I am giving up.
>>97570360I love how the unit champions for the peasants are what seems to be retired/retiree aged jade warriors.
>>97570360I'm no longer catholic but I respect the hustleAlso as much as I want that box, I still need to get the battalion.Also it makes me desire Nippon even more
>>97570386Mantic or conquest?
>>97570386Praying for you brother. Hellfire awaits
>>97570377it's weird how much respectful detail they put into cathay lmao.
>>97570039Badlands and south cause it feels like a full blindspot on the map. Might just be beastmen and lizards fighting down there cause of the south pole thing. Also, in the off chance they do it, Australia. I still desperately want a forest goblin sublist with new giant insects and such, and a lush jungle fantasy Australia would be perfect.
what the fuck were they thinking
>>97570564>tigermen hinted since decades>release a visual that goes with said hints>reeeeeeI mean what do you want? Beastmen but with tiger heads?
>>97570585>beastmen with tiger headsyes. make them chaos aligned too and look less clean and more savage. make them not look like they belong to a korean mmo
I am glad Beastmen aren’t furry coded. They are brutal, savage and as a far away from ”heckin wholesome beans” as one can be
>>97570585>Eternal Taskmaster: During the Command sub-phase of their Turn, this character may attempt to drive a unit they have joined to greater efforts by making a Leadership test (using their own Leadership). If this test is passed, until your next Start of Turn sub-phase this character and any unit they have joined gains the Extra Attacks (+1) and Hatred (all enemies) Special Rules.This applies to all the characters attached to the unit as well?
>>97570595unlike Skaven
>>97570607in fairness, beastmen are meant to invoke the "half man, half beast" imagery as seen in old mythologies. they are very satyr inspired. They are men with the head of goats and cows, and are savage creatures of dark magic. Skaven on the other hand are just rat men, quite literally described in today's vernacular as furry rats. Of course, their adoption and sexualization by furries was never intended, but also beastmen dont have the same appeal to the furry eye as skaven.
>>97570564>ind has tigermen>we aren't making an ind faction>cathay has troops from all over the place >lets give them tigermen mercenaries >china has a white tiger as sacred symbol of the eastern cardinal direction >lets connect the tigermen of cathay to the eastern province with a white tiger>we must explain why the tigermen are in cathay if they're from ind>lets make the white tiger an important figure that guided these ones through a migration into that eastern province >tigermen were written as beastmen born from chaos >but we can't have chaos aligned units in cathay>let's make them not chaos but with room for deniability and a hint at a previous allegiance to chaos>we want diversity, but don't want sexualisation >lets make the females' bodytype identical to the males (also that saves money on animations)
>wake up>another beautiful day with some me-time to paint little Empire soldiersHow do non-Empire painters not kill themselves?
>>97570848magic gave their indian tigermen better designs, they even gave them horns and a continuity with demons
>>97570887If they gave them horns there couldn't be any deniability regarding their actual origins.Even skaven, despite being a "beastmen race" don't have horns outside of their demons and highest authorities.Plus the ones that migrated to cathay seem to be an offshoot of some kind, the actual indish ones might be like that.
>>97570912what's with the special albinos anyway?
Since beastmen are so popular here, what are the coolest army concepts and conversions you've seen for the faction?
>>97570564She looked cuter in the leaked concept for the lords of shanyang
>>97570039My chariot is almost done. I hope that other tuskgorAnon will have as much fun painting his as I am having with mine. As for the gor rider, he will be degraded to a unit champion. Now I need to get myself working on a banner.>TQNone. I'm fine with what we have. Current GW would fuck it up anyway.
>>97571004Sweet looking chariot my dude. Been eyeing to get one myself, was it hard to assemble?
>>97570564let me fix that
>>97570887Should be noted WoTC changes this art in later releases to not offend indian people
>>97570966They're very small
>>97571038Not at all, but you'll need to fill some gaps with GS. I would also suggest pinning because contact points don't look too solid.
>>97570930What's the deal with teal?
>>97571157Human sized
>>97570866Painting hideous rats is very fun.>>97571004Well done anon that’s turned out pretty splendidly
>>97571204it's been the long-standing favourite color of pretty much all 'eavy metal painters for over 20 years, it's just that they were rarely 'allowed' to use it because most factions schemes had already been cemented long before that in a completely different context of publications and paint making that favoured the bolder and more basic red-orange, neon-green and deep blue
>Which lesser known area of the Warhammer Fantasy would you like to see expanded and why?Literally any fucking battle/war. Make actually detailed campaigns. Make the siege of Vraks level detailed battle in WHFB. Cept, all the writers are fucking retarded goyim who wish to copy marvel slop and are actually too stupid to do it, which is why we'll never get it.
>>97569666Neat!>>97569884Speaking for myself I started out by trying to cover gaps in kitbashes with fur or chainmail and from there the interest in what else is possible grew. Granted, I've never done anything as complex as an entire head though and as a nurgle man I can get away with some sloppy work.Here are some useful tutorials on how to make fur and chainmail:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L-R8YGM2xOghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hl-hmrCiRHo
>>97571229You can find a fair bit of information on the battles of the Talabec and Hel Fenn. A lot of people are interested in hearing about G&F or other adventure stories instead, though, that's not the writers imposing American comic book story tropes on us.>fucking retarded goyimpicrel
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>>97570963If you allow me to brag I honestly think that I'm my own favourite when it comes to conversions and army concept for Beastmen that I've seen. While I'm far from good at painting (or taking photos) I think that I'm really starting to get a good handle on converting stuff. Haven't finished a model in ages, but here's a photo of some of the gors I've done for my all unique, nurgle-themed beastie boys.
>>97571281These look very interesting. I like how mutated and chaotic they are. While I think the beastmen plastics have aged well, they are still pretty uniform for being the molested stepchildren of chaos.
>>97571004Looks good! I dig the red tone of the skin you're going with. Gives it a sort of inflammed, almost skinless vibe that makes them appear even more like abominations.
>>97570585Tbh I would have preferred they be chaos
>>97571249Cept the information is shit. The storytelling is constrained by a desire to limit it to a very game-y form and the authors are genuinely too stupid to properly understand neither our reality nor the fantasy implications of it.>x hid his troops behind a ridgelineVery cool, Y can fly up and see them.>flank anchored by forestVery cool, undead troops wouldn't care about that.And also, the omnipresent (((unit from tabletop))) played a crucial role, fighting to the last against (((unit from tabletop))).
>>97571290Thank you. Yeah, I'm not a fan of how uniform the plastic kits for beastmen are either, even though I understand the reason behind it, but they certainly make for excellent conversion fodder.
Update on bretonnians. I have ordered some grass and flower tufts that the transporter somehow lost and is trying to resend.
>>97571328
>>97571328>>97571333Looks good! I like the variety in colours.
They're going after the furry market with tigermen?
>>97571340No, or they would made the female one sexy.
>>97571375>furries>caring about femalesloooool
>>97571395the fags can't have their futas or "dommy mommies" if they don't have boobs to begin with.
They need to make a cute fox race next.
>>97571417True furchads want bara tigers and lions.
>>97571427just go play WoW anon yoiu will bemuch happier there
>>97571427that would go in nipland, but the cathay focus ensured that nippon would be erased even more.
>>97571427No they don't, but given how things are going I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
>>97570595I think them also not being entirely covered in fur helps that a lot from an aesthetic standpoint. They looks more like a nasty fusion of man and animal parts.Which they should.
i like warhammer fantasy but i am unableto engage with it as much as i would like and it makes me sad and frustrated
always funny how lorelets get upset when they are confronted with elements from the actual warhammer lore.
This. I'd understand if the tigerwoman was a female space marine (it'd still be funny though)
>>97571229None of the modern GW faggots know dick about history or how battles actually work. WHFB used to have this stuff in the early editions, back when they had literal historians and archeologists working at the company. Nowadays you're correct, the millennial GW staff grew up on Star Wars and Marvel Avengers and literally think a battle is two massive groups of dudes literally just running at each other, with the leader at the head, to have a giant disorganized brawl in the center of the field
>>97571684>WHFB used to have this stuff in the early editions, back when they had literal historians and archeologists working at the company.Was this actually the case? I suspected it (simply because some of the early and middle era lore made a lot of sense and was actually kino), but never bothered to look into it. Do you have names?
>>97571328Amazing paint job, very clean colors and lines, if a bit simplistic. Looks really good! I get why people don't want to proxy Empire or any other faction, but for me Bretonnia has always been one that I think is being done a disservice by using official models. Aesthetically there isn't enough to set their rank and file apart from historical foot soldiers, so I feel like you're shooting yourself in the foot by using GW models when 3rd party historicals exist that are the exact same aesthetically, much cheaper, and better sculpted
A new roleplaying thinghttps://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/temple-of-spite-the-ultimate-dark-elf-sourcebook-for-warhammer-fantasy-roleplay
>>97571699Rick Priestley and Graeme Davis studied Archaeology at university, I know that much.
>>97571729Will it be fun, THOUGH?
>>97571738Nigel Stillman was an archaeologist by trade, GW was a side gig
>>97571741I don't know what this meme is supposed to be getting at. Yes, de Sade is essential reading for esoteric right wing men. You just figure this out?
>>97571700Thanks. I was on the fence about doing decals for the shields but I think I'll keep them relatively plain and do decals for the knights.
>>97571699Priestley was an archeologist, Perry twins were re-enactors.
Give me your headcanon on Estalia
>>97571684The average archeologist has no idea how a battle works either. Unless they're specifically into battlefields or whatever the fuck. Battle tactics and what not are more of a historian's job anyway, though I don't know how thin the line between the two is in the UK.
>>97571892rats are the best chiefs there
>>97571892It exists and is meaningful to the game
>>97571741Dark elves make everything more fun
>>97570866I'm just about ready to kill myself while waiting for new knight sculpts
>>97571892bretonnia: knights and peasantsempire: landsknechts and prieststilea: gladiators and engineers estalia: conquistadors and inquisition
>>97570866By painting rank and file troops that don't look deformed.
>>97570585Would have liked not another noblebright addition to Cathay, which is already boring as hell. Maybe they could at least make them savage and violent as hell, but I highly doubt they will, I’m sure they’ll have some idillic society.
>>97571895Nah, that's bullshit. Just the fact they went into professional history puts them so far ahead of the average goycattlenigger and indicates an IQ high enough to support some level of sapience.
lets all get together and hangout and build terrain and paint and play together :-DDDDD
I'm a furfag but I don't like Cathay. Could use tigermen as Tzaangors or Khorngors.
>>97572012>build terrain You lost, son?
>>97572012So much random Warhammer fantasy art online
>>97572011Be that as it may, it does not in the slighest mean they know anything about how battles are fought in and of itself, unless they had a specific interest in that particular subject. take it from me, I'm doing a his degree and I haven't a clue simply because it's not a part of history I particularily care about
>>97572014Maybe we don't know the model size of the Tiger Men, even in TWW.
>>97570966Wait the tigerman are that small?I thought they would be almost ogre sized. Tigers are fucking big
>>97572028I'm sorry if that ruined your sissy fantasy
>>97571328If the idea is each individual man at arms serves a corresponding KotR, I fucking love it. Genius idea
>>97571684The same archaeologists and historians who have mindless repeated for years that bronze age battles were a rugby scrum based on one author saying that without citing any sources?Those guys?Lmao. None of these fags have any idea how the old battles were fought.
>>97572053Comparing our understanding of the Bronze age with no written record, to late medieval style battle , makes you a low IQ nigger. I keep forgetting each anon on here has a 1 in 2 chance of being below 100 IQ.
>>97571729>Hailing from the frozen realm of Naggaroth, under the iron rule of the Dread King Malerionshould have never made that deal with Marvel GW
>>97572039I have five schemes (blue and white, red and blue, blue and green, red and yellow) that I'll repeat and match to the livery of knights. Might add a couple more that I want to do like black and yellow and white and green but I add any more I want to have a unit of about twenty with the basing finished to see how it looks.The bowmen use more basic peasant colors.
>>97572060>1 in 2Honestly probably quite generous
>>97572028the two generic heroes definitely don't look like they're to scale, but the ogre, white tiger and other fuckwit do look in scale, making the tigers just human sized
Been working on a Liche Priest, can't quite get my camera to pick up the actual colours. Few details left to go, just noticed a scarab in the back, and still yet to shade the metals. What do I do with the areas in white?
>>97572157Just to show what fuckery my camera is doing with colours. The skin is like in this photo, the blue is much closer (but not quite) like the first photo, but is much more teal
>>97572111True, that's assuming they are all white.
>>97572157>>97572163Looks great anon, love that priest kit.
>>97572157The Khartush could be in a metallic, maybe Dark Bronze or Copper colour, just to make it different from the rest of the gold trimThe orb could be an orange or red colour to represent a sun, maybei got no idea for the scarbs or skull symbols on the staff
>>97572204cartouche*sorry I can't spell
>>97571108>>97570564
>>97572313>forogot picoopsie
>>97572348Disney movies
>>97570564I see this and the concept art in the Community post and I really have to wonder what's with the huge solid pauldron obsession and applying it to the new eastern factions based on cultures that hardly used them that way. Like how the videogame design for the jade warriors has unassuming lamellar armor going from the shoulder down the arm, bu the moment they transfer them to TOW it's BAM! Big plate pauldrons. Not a big fan of GW treating huge pauldrons as a staple of the setting, because they are precisely the biggest thing that makes people cry out 'Warcraft aesthetic'. Not a fan of the size increase on recent Empire models either, even if the plater equipment actually fits here.The concept art for the tiger sorcerer is the only one I'm fine it, with no pauldrons period and with all the jewelry and equipment above the belt actually hinting at their fantasy indian heritage. Well, I can't say I'm well acquainted with historical indian armor, but a cursory search shows me that they weren't into bigass shoulder armor either.
>>97572348groomed by cartoons unironically
>>97572074Based
>>97572060Oh yes, the extremely detailed records of early/late medieval warfare that definitely informed the game that involves (checks notes) wizards, dragons, and intricate and realistic rules like 'units only move in perfect squares that can only charge in the 90 arc of the front.'> Nigger nigger niggerBitch you write like a fucking teenager. It's 4chan, no one cares that you can type nigger while oozing in your gross gamer chair. Your faggot ass doesn't even lift.
>>97572516Nta but what the fuck are you on about? I don't think you really get what the discussion was about (as retarded as it aas in the first place).
https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/94-introducing-bhashiva-the-tiger-warriors>Through these countless cycles, the White Tiger achieved what few beings of any age can claim - to have stood in battle against both Asavar Kul and Archaon.Does they mean Bhashiva herself fought Asavar (around 2300's) and Archaon (around 2500's) ?Or does it simply mean that "one of the previous White Tigers fought Asavar," and so what about the 11 other Everchosens ?Did all previous White Tigers miserably fail to even reach them ?
>>97572516I don't understand what the utility is in deliberately engaging with a poster that you can acknowledge is behaving irrationally. You pointed out that that poster acts like a pugnacious teenager, so why even bother trying to reason with him?
>>97572516Unironically he's right, you are a low impulse control nigger if you couldn't resist posting that ridiculous meltdown
>>97572516Smoke his ass
>>97570564>>97570593It's implied that there are Chaos Tigermen just not in Cathay. They're in Ind. And making the entirety of Ind a Chaos continent is lazy. Just like how we know that many Norscans aren't that Chaotic. There's nuance to be had.
>>97572401>like how overwhelmingly furry the germanic people appear to be.>early germanic peoples had warrior fraternity cults of young men that involved mystical self-identification with wolvesReally makes you think.
>>97572617PERRY GOD
>>97572626Also explains Ulric in Warhammer Fantasy
>>97572535I think they are saying that the White Tiger is a title. Not that she literally fought both of them.
I haven't played any games yet. How many core units do i need for scoring? Is 1 big 30-40 unit blob enough?
>>97572675Scoring isn't as important as killing models. This isn't 40k. Regardless, no, you don't need 40 models in one unit. That's a death star and it's not primarily used to hold an objective. Go with multiple units of 10-15 models instead if objectives are what you care about. Just make sure they stay above unit strength 10 for as long as possible.
>>97572675I disagree with the other guy. Large infantry blobs of 30ish guys are a common feature of tournament lists. https://oldworldrankings.com/army_listsYou can go to that website and take a look at what others are playing that have chosen your army.
>>97572617>Perryfag is a manlet AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHSH. No wonder he’s so mad all the time. ahahahhahahahahha
>>97572617You can’t post here if you’re under 18 little guy
>>97572535It's a title, but it's still dumb, because now it feels like half the heroes of Cathay all raced to fucking Kislev to stop Asavar Kul.Funnily enough all this is indirectly glazing Asavar himself, as apparently his presence forced the whole planet to scramble together. It's starting to make Archaon look inadecuate.
If you attack a night goblin big boss to an orc unit, I assume he is plonked to the side as his base does not match?I got a cunning plan if an opponent tries to align with him Wollopas!
>>97572762Asavar was the original bearer of the Crown of Everlasting Conquest and the Chaos Sword Archaon now carries. Guy was an absolute daemon in battle. Not to mention his armour. Shame he still lost to Magnus
>>97572766AHAHAHAHAHAH sure you are big guy. No wonder you're always phoneposting, you can't reach the keyboard! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>97572617>>97572766>perrynigger is actually kinda hotWasn't expecting this on my bingo card today
>>97572779Asavar Kul duelling Magnus is the most boring of at least different accounts of his death.So naturally, that's the one GW will go with.That image isn't even Asavar Kul, it's Engra Deathsword.
How does everyone feel about ToW becoming WoW?I meanIt was good while it lasted
>>97572798How does it feel to be outed as a manlet? I meanIt was good while it lasted
>>97572617>>97572766perry, relax.>>97572798all additions that i dont like simply dont exist in my headcanon. Fantasy is curated to utter perfection in my mind and modern GW doesnt matter.
>>97572617why is it only gay people who post photos of their flabby asses online?
>>97572830>Fantasy is curated to utter perfection in my mind and modern GW doesnt matter.It’s literally not. Never has been. You either accept its flaws or you’re as deluded as a tranny. I’d sooner call songs of fire and ice a perfect setting before I even pretend fantasy ever was.
>>97572830>all additions that i dont like simply dont exist in my headcanonBased>>97572798Nulore simply doesn't count, as it wasn't written by the creators of Warhammer Fantasy. It's I st unofficial fanfic >>97572835Cope and seethe. Post physique fatty
we got fucking "good beastmen" before Bretonnia got anything substantially new holy shit. This is a level of hating the french that goes beyond the US's in the early 2000
>>97572851Quiet down little guy, or we'll call your mom to put you in time out.
>>97572851>be a homosexual like melmao
>>97572798Wouldn't take this one too seriously just yet. Same happened with Cathay: GW makes concept art, CA alters it to look more historical, GW takes the CA version and adds minimal alterations for TOW.
>>97572617>>97572766yum!
>>97572798>next box for TOW not even released >people think Cathay is going to get any of this before a third edition I'm tired of the drama around this hobby.
>>97572766You're 5'9" at most dude, calm your tits.
>>97572854>BretonniaWho gives a shit. If Cathay didn’t exist they would be the most boring human faction.
>>97572864It's probably 3-4 years away from release as a model
>>97572867He really thinks we can't tell he's a manlet. This is legit the best day in /wfg/ history. The shittiest shitstirrer has outed himself inadvertently as a skinnyfat manlet. What a good day.
>>97572764yeah, he goes on the side, but I wouldn't object to it if you gave him a fitting base to fit in the middle, as long as you're not doing that to do some kind of weird trick
>>97572864The drama is just one manlet shitposting.
I think in honor of this day, we should all collectively no longer use " Perryfag " or " Perrynigger " and switch to the more appropriate " Perrymanlet ".
>>97572623The Ind idea from that one fan project is the best, that the Tigermen are slightly more civilized beastmen who rule over a caste system with humans at the bottom
>>97572885No, not a trick. He has 25mm anyway so can't fit by the rules. That's grand, will put him in my generals unit and swat some cavalry gits!
Do you think tigermen have barbed junk?
>>97572798Tigermen were part of the lore for a long time now.If I dislike some part of their nu-lore or if I dislike how their models/arts look is irrelevant the same way I may dislike how modern Chaos Warriors/ State-troops look or I may dislike some part of the 8th edition Elves lore.I just replace the parts I dilsike by my own headcanon.
>>97572919>more civilized beastmen who rule over a caste system with humans at the bottomThat doesn't work as we do have examples of human nobility from Ind.I also doubt GW or WFRP writers want to deal with a fantasy version of the real indian caste system, since we all know how squemish writers are when negativaly potraying non european cultures.
>>97572766Bro you HAVE to get ride of that moustache. Or at least let a beard grow or something to go with it.
>>97572944Do you think perrymanlet had to stand on a box to take the mirror selfie?
>>97572868they're boring because GW has refused to do anything with them for more than twenty years. They could be interesting, or at least have more than one dimension, if GW actually wanted to.
>spergout about cats for over a day>Perryfag having a stand-off with anons over "physique">Schizophrenia about lore (for a tabletop game)>So much nogaming and nopainting in sightI think I'll just leave these threads. I've had some fun conversations here, but these garbage discussions are getting tiring and depressing. Maybe Reddit and Discord have marginally better than /wfg/ anno 2026.Either goodbye or see you next week anons.
Gib TK vs WE box already
>>97572919I don't know what the fan-book tried to do for ind, but considering gw's trends, it's far more likely that they would not have exotic humans replaced by or directly underneath of some fantasy race.even when it comes to cathay they made the relation awfully good and flawless, with hybrids in-between as well.So fantasy indian humans and fantasy indian beastmen would have to exist as either two parallel societies or with humans in charge or at least as equals in some way.If we start from the assumption that ind being the "land of a thousand gods" isn't an exaggeration, then it could be an extremely decentralised culture with each city or region having a different relation with their beastmen and their gods, handwaving any truly problematic worldbuilding with "anything goes somewhere else". with the safer regions looking like a normal human civilization with beastmen clustered around and inside the temples as intermediates for the gods, to darker outskirt villages where men are preyed upon by beasts that pretty much act or are demons.I think what's more interesting would be setting down why ind would have so many gods:is there something special in ind that allows for gods to rise as a common enough occurrence?is their definition of god so lax that simple kings, warlords, sorcerers or mutants could be hailed as such?is it all fake pantheistic mumbo jumbo and the power they believe comes from the gods has a different source?
>>97573038Wait, you still haven't joined an actual community yet? 4chan is a dump and I'd have lost hope if this was the only place I used to interact with others in regards to the hobby. Anonymity removes the burden of proof to prove that you are actually an active participant in this hobby and you can just blend in with the crowd and step out occasionally to say something inflammatory.
>>97573002Beards are for fat losers and slobs
>>97573002How insensitive of you to ask him to grow in any way, don't you see how challenged he is already?
>>97573140Whatever, option A then.
>>97573155
>>97573038Kek sent another one packing
>>97573140t. low-T beardlet, probably beaner or azn
>>97573069We're only going to get TOW news at Adepticon anon
>>97573191Shouldn’t you be doing calf extension exercises?
>>97572980>>97573071Thank god gw is british and not american or they would seriously consider adding mexicans to the lustrian lizardmen.And not even the sexy amazon latinas.
>>97573071From what I remember the fan project was set after the End Times didn't quite end the world, and the Tigermen taking over was a result of that. And Ind was a patchwork of kingdoms, some human led and some Tigermen. I agree that they would never do it but it would be the most interesting, it's extremely gay that GW would ignore the historical fact of caste being central to Indian society for hundreds if not thousands of years including in the modern day just to appeal to twitter leftists
>>97573209Whatever reasoning they use to keep India out of Warhammer I support. I am Canadian and have Ind fatigue.
Had my first TOW game yesterday and ran into a rules thing we couldn't quite work out. A unit of chaos warriors was sandwiched between black knights and skeletons, the unit broke and had to flee. How exactly does that play out? I know they have to flee away from the greatest unit strength, do they take perils tests from the other unit they were locked in with? If they had FBIGO would they still have taken perils tests and the undead would have reformed or overran as normal? Pic rel
>>97573232Good lord man those models look like shit. I can barely see anything but brown.
>>97573201native humans do live in Lustria but they are more Patagonian tribes than mexicans
>>97573232I don't know the specific answer, but what makes the most sense to me is that this unit should be completely destroyed and thus removed from the table, and that's probably what I would have done if it was my unit in my game
>>97573232You flee directly away from the highest unit strength unit. You also have to take dangerous terrain tests for fleeing through a unit. Don’t mind the resident shitposter, he’s extra mad today because he doxxed himself and inadvertently revealed to everyone that he’s a manlet.
>>97573232I'm pretty sure breaking and fleeing with nowhere to go means they flee half a nanometer into nowhere before being cut down, and if you fbigo'd you'd simply be stuck there for another round of combat.
Thanks, lads. >>97573258 is how we ended up playing it but >>97573249 and >>97573264 would pretty much lead to the same conclusion.
>>97570360I want that little crow familiar so fucking badly.
>>97570377yep. soulful peak
>>97570564>Cathay gets non-chaos beastmenNeat.>>97572623What? The one image we have of an Indan Tigerman he's even more well groomed and dressed in fine clothing.
>>97573201Original Slann (back when they were mainly frog prople) had lobotomized human slaves.
>>97570439You don't know that>>97570386Go back to church, retard.Sorry for going off topic but this is a matter of theological importance
>can now bullshit anime catgirls into a Cathay armyGlorious.
>>97573606They have to look like transexuals though.
Is it possible to make my dudes Sylvanian mortals without it being cringe? How would a (human) Sylvanian army look? Should I mix in some Stirlanders to represent their governorship of the province?
>>97573697well tows set in a time where vampires arent a threat or whatever so go ahead.
>>97573697Do you want an undead human mixed force? Or do you mean an Empire army for Sylvania? In that case like you said, just go Stirland and write up a backstory about it being a group of Sylvanian volunteers fighting to reclaim their homeland.
>>97573606That was always an option though.Pic related is from Tome of Corruption, 2006.
>>97573705>>97573709Basically, and Empire army based around Sylvania composed completely of mortals*. However, the noble in charge of it may or may not be a vampire thrall, because why else would I play Sylvania.
>>97573697I think you could do it, but I don't actually play Empire. If I were to do a Sylvanian mortal army (and I'm assuming Empire aligned not living troops of a Vampire Count) I would do a few St*rland State troops, a lot of Empire Militia to represent the native Sylvanians and some amethyst wizards and knights of Morr.
>>97573697If sexy vampire babe calls, men will answer.
>>97573748mechanically it would be hard to represent that on a hero but sure it can probably be done. Enjoy your twilight fantasy anon!
>>97573748So like an Empire Stirland army and make the General a Grand Master for the profile and write him up as a suspiciously talented and long lived Nobleman who's skill seems to almost unnaturally rival even the most martially skilled Grand Master Knights of the Empire.
>>97573748get Bret peasants then because living Sylvanians are all inbred and retarded
>>97573749Actually adding on to this, you could do some knights from the Order of the Sacred Scythe, I did a conversion of one once with some bits from the Hexwraith kit but I can't find pictures of it right now.
>>97573462those were made from the old worlder colonists
>>97570360When's this coming out?
>>97573858before adepticon
>>97573858could be after the OBR stuff for AoS.
Progress update on my Grave Guard. Prototype is in the middle.
>>97573697p sure you just paint empire models in purple/black/red or whatever the fuck their colours are supposed to be.do some militia and crossbows instead of guns.
>>97574001Dope. I like the banner color, very ghostly.
>>97574001very sweet
>>97574001aoshit
>>97574028Counterpoint: building them is easier than new slop. They are spiritualy warhammer fantasy.
>>97574028As long as they rank up who cares, nigger
>>97574035They rank up better than the New slop knights or Barbarians.
ive composed a poem about orcs would you like to hear it
>>97574044orcs are greengoblins are tooif you're a troll ur height is 5'2"
>>97574068this is genuinely basically exactly my poem so theres no point anymore. you fucking beat me to it anon kek
>>97574044Yes if you aren’t the shitposter I would enjoy hearing it.
>>97574044Orcs are goodMulched into foodTo feed the treesFor a healthy wood.
>>97574001Do they rank up alright? The regular skeletons are kind of a nightmare to get into formation.
>>97574135>git to git communication
What should I use for an Estalian army?
>>97574260WGA conquistadors models using the renegade crown list
>>97574028It doesn't matter if it's AoShit or TOWshit, it's all GW cancer at the end of the day.Just get the figures you like, and if they just so happen to be from GW then oh well.I personally want to find female hellenic bodies to make dark elves out of.
>>97574260Solidify your cum and put them in sculpted clay men
>>97574302if your army isn't GW it isn't a WHFB army, period. Doesn't matter if its proonted, third party or otherwise, fantasy has an aesthetic and proportions that are iconic and irreplaceable.
>perrymanlet about to start a samefag argument with himself over proxies in warhammerSomeones assmad over being a nobitches manlet LMAO
>>97574330How does GW cum feel in your ass?
>>97574342He’s not wrong thoughbeit.
>>97574351He posts this >>97574330 strawman so he can argue against it. His only purpose is to make this place worse via his presence. He doesn't play any edition of Fantasy and doesn't own any Fantasy models. Also he's a manlet lmao.
>>97570564>"we want the furry bara audience">>97572623TO my knowledge, Ind itself isnt Choasy, it has human non-chaos kingdoms, but a good part of the beastmen are (duh). However, I have the vague memory that some of the ind beastmen werent as"chaos only" as the northern beastmen are.
>>97572919I like that idea. I like the planet of the apes type shit.
>>97574380Ind is kind of boring. I wish TOW went more into the Naga of Khuresh. Evil human sacrificing jungle blood drinking corpse trading snakemen are more interesting than tigermen imo.
>>97573697You can. Nothing is stopping you from making a Sylvanian regiment from the Empire, with their own colours & heraldry.>>97574002Isn't the purple only worn by the Drakenhof units?
>>97574330>GW shill
>>97574360Your obsession with perryfag is seriously unhealthy. When he's not in this thread you're constantly accusing others of being him, freaking out at the sight of historical models. When he actually posts here you absolutely lose your shit and spam countless posts about him. Why don't you just ignore him and talk about Warhammer Fantasy? It's so weird. It's thread after thread after thread with your obsession. If he really makes you this mad just ignore him. I'm so tired of it all.And I know there's no point in even saying any of this, as you'll just accuse me of being him.
>>97574486Fair point about ignoring him, but I will never stop making fun of him being a manlet. I can't promise that.
>>97574161They work well enough. The back rank will consist of the ones holding their weapon pointing to the back
>>97574486Maybe it's all a ploy to bait Perryfag into posting his toned naked body again and again
>>97570564I am going to buy that battalion box the day it comes out. I might buy two, if going all tigers is a real option
>>97572798I like the Tigermen
>>97572919>>97572980It's a real shame that these factions only came to be fleshed out during a time of extreme political correctness, because those societal flaws that the writers are terrified to portray are precisely what gives flavor. It's like removing the superstition and witch hunts in the Empire, the peasant abuse and inbreeding from Bretonnia, or the family feuds and backstabbing from Tilea. Kislev already went lame when they erased the ethnic conflict, and with Cathay they outright refused to implement any flaw that could be used for humor. Zhao Ming is like the sole Cathay character that is allowed to be flawed and a bit silly, and is automatically the best character in the whole faction for it.
>>97574486T. Perryfag
>obsession with an invisible "namefag"Why is every general like this?
>>97574849Yin Yin was also allowed to be flawed, but that is due to lore from 5th edition
>>97573697>>97574403Speaking of, why does Sylvania have a's own boarders and a ruler name now? Shouldn't they be firmly under Stirland's thumb post-Vampire Wars? Who or what is Drakvald?
>>97575053Forgot the map.
>>97574959i assure you perryfriend is quite visible, although his selfies have been deletedslowly trying to work through squigs…
>>97575053>>97575058No one in the empire wants to run the place so they assign someone there and leave it alone unless they want to get taxes from the region
So what is the ideal setup for a minndehiem army, specifically White wolf knights? The hammers seem like an auto include, but halberds have been buffed recently. By the way, the meta here is TK, Brets and HE.
>>97575567Middenheim*
The perry twins sculpted some truly fascinating dwarves back in the day
>>97575058>>97575053It looks like Stirland control only the lands near the main road and river.
Gentlemen, I come to you with a moral quandary. My chaos warband is going to be facing off against the perfidious forces of Cathay once again in two days' time and seeing as I got my ass thoroughly handed to me last time I feel the need to come up with new strategies and tactics. As it currently stands, my entire army has been painted in the colours of chaos undivided. If I want to win, it would be advantageous to give some of my units marks even though they haven't been painted to look like they'd have this mark. Would this be as grave a sin as I think it is?
>>97575702Holy shit
>>97575702Whoa, a Firstborn™ Astartes without armor, I didn't know they made those.
>>97570039So, did that new old world rpg come out? I felt like it said it would be out some time 1st quarter 2026. If so, anyone play/read it? I think d10 dice pool is an interesting mechanic if nothing else.
>>97575991I think the joy of Undivided is having the freedom to mark as you please. I would suggest having a replacement banner with the mark of your choosing emblazoned on it.
>>97575991It would be a sin to not do everything in your power to defeat the perfidious C*thayan.
>>97576072You can get the PDFs right nowMy personal opinion is that it to close to WFRP to bother if you already have all the books for that system, and the writers tying so tightly to one location(Taalagad) makes it rather limited if you want to do your own thing with it.
>>97576291I second for this most excellent suggestion, a friend does it and also has themed marked unit champions.It looks great on the table.Here’s some freshly finished weapon teams.Admittedly I will likely go over the eyes of the front rats properly, but I dislocated my shoulder the same day I got them to this stage thanks to a grand treachery, so for the foreseeable future this is them.
>>97575702amazing
Getting close to done. Skin needs a bit of work, still not sure about the cartouche's (though I'm actually coming around to leaving them white)
>>97574401as much as I love some of their concepts, the rest have some outstanding misses
>>97570039>TQThe Moot
>>97576931the moot been pretty well developed in WFRP
>>97570039>TQEstalia. GW could tackle once again previously mentioned names like Zaragoz and Magritta, but also explore the multiple countries within.Expanding on their relationships with neighbouring states (such as that Elvish Isle near Los Cabos) would be neat.
>>97576931them's gnomes, gnot flings
>>97576996There's no way to develop estalia that doesn't come at the cost of removing stuff from the empire or tilea>we wuz conquistadorspirazzo's lost legion was tilean>we wuz the inquisitionimperial witch hunters>we wuz myrmidiansagain, tilea>we wuz knightly ordersagain, imperial
>>97576996I think that probably the best option for expanding on them would be that that they be released as Dogs Of War, that way they'll not be treading on any toes while getting to stand out as their own.
>>97577027Tilea getting the conquistadors was always weird, and there're definitely ways to express the cult of myrmidia or their own witch hunters or their own knights differently.
>>97577027You can make the Estalian Inquisitors Solkanites there have a different enough flavour, being more Roman mystery cult than the Witch Hunters Puritan look
>>97574845Furry/pedo/goycattle
>>97574845me too, they were a long time coming
>>97577000They're Lalafell
Some pr-orc-ess
What are we thinking for the tigermen? Based on the initial Cathayan release I'm guessing M6 WS5 S5 T4 I6, probably 2 wounds 2 attacks. Leadership 8 but warband and horde. A 3+ save. Hand weapons and shields or great weapons or some kind of fuck you kung fu nunchuck that is +1S -2AP multiple wounds (2). Hatred: Chaos just for good measure and the same Frenzy rule as Beastmen get.
Thoughts on this list:++ Characters [282 pts] ++Renegade Prince "Gelbert Von Habgier" [130 pts] (Hand weapon, Morning star, Full plate armour, Pistol, General, The Might of Miragliano [Stubborn, Tilean Stoicism], Barded Warhorse)Outcast Wizard "Abracus Dabrius" [152 pts] (Hand weapon, Wizard [Level 3 Wizard], Warhorse, Ruby Ring of Ruin, Daemonology)++ Core Units [327 pts] ++10 Sellsword Infantry "Markus Mann's Sharpshots" [60 pts] (Crossbows, Light armour)20 Veteran Sellswords "Beric's Iron Boars" [267 pts] (Halberds, Full plate armour, Shields, Drilled, Heavy Infantry, Phalanx, Veteran Officer (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)++ Special Units [183 pts] ++5 Veteran Freeblades "Knights of the Golden Vow" [183 pts] (Hand weapons, Lances, Full plate armour, Shields, Lance Formation, Noble Disdain, Veteran Commander (champion), Standard bearer, Musician, Barded Warhorses)++ Rare Units [207 pts] ++10 Border Princes Brigands "Torenzo's Thunderers" [107 pts] (Hand weapons, Light armour, 10x Blunderbusses, Formation [Open Order], Ambushers, Desperado (champion))Border Princes Bombard "Morr's Greetings" [100 pts] (Bombard, Hand weapons, Light armour)---Created with "Old World Builder"[https://old-world-builder.com]
>>97577155insignia of big boss charlie brown?
>>97576996where did you get such a detailed map?
>>97577273noble outlaw with a tome of midnight lvl1 is cheaper than lvl3 wizard
>lizardmen aren't beastmen>ratmen aren't beastmen>wolfmen aren't beastmen>bearmen aren't beastmen>batmen aren't beastmen>tigermen aren't beastmen >crowmen aren't beastmen>monkeymen aren't beastmen>snakemen aren't beastmen>fishmen aren't beastmen>pigmen aren't beastmenshould beastmen change their names? are you ready to accept that the only real beastmen are the horned and hooved ones of the braying herds?
Tigers won.
>>97577322From The Old World map. GW had updated the map last year, and added far more detail than what is now.When some redditards complained that some places and names were from non-gw sources, they removed from their website.
>>97577398Hoofsmen.
>>97577425They didn't complain, they wanted a guy who didn't want credit to get credit for making these locations the entire thing was dumb
Ogres seem like a formidable fighting force in the fluff. Tamurkhan's army nearly got halted until he directly intervened.In warfare, how would Chaos and Orcs+Goblins conventionally defeat an Ogre army on the field?
>>97577661numbers
Someone got some highland skeletons for comparison?
>>97577661Unironically, orcs and gobbos outsmart them and out fight them. Though (most) can't physically compare, they definitely understand tactics and know how to use their force better.Chaos can overpower ogres because warp bullshittery. Unless you mean beastmen, who win on skirmish/hit and run tactics, bigger monsters, and higher mobility.
>>97577661ogres' problems are logistics, leadership and the desire to try solving things the brutal way before trying a different waythey probably aren't too good with sieges or in any situation where the enemy is using terrain to their advantage to break off their units and momentum
Got some small chains to tie my tuskgors in to my chariots. Finally get to do some painting this weekend
What are the main difference between 40k orks and fantasy orcs? .. like are they also fungus and spores?
>>97577398herds of chaos
>>97577732>>97577666>>97577757Thanks lads. Guess that is why a lot of ogre incursions aren't a big thing. Suppose it makes sense with orcs and gobbos, who are used to fighting more, would know tactics better than ogres. Same with Chaos and Chaos steroids and BS.
Just received the big boy himself. It's quite huge! I have to learn how to apply snow on such a big terrain
Finally cleared my painting backlog, so I can rebase my knights. After this I'll have to rebase 30 chaos warriors.
>>97570386Need me a geisha on a goldfish mount
Done
>>97577905What the fuck is that
>>97578111temple of skulls, a terrain from 2006 i think?
>>97577398>bovids of chaos
>>97578128Oh shit, wasn't this one of the terrain pieces with special rules?
Has this been released yet?
>>97578390Hopefully it wont ever be released. If it does come out I hope its in 2028.
>>97578390next week probably
>>97578372yeah, throw a D6, on a 2+, you can pump one of your stat by D3. A 1 sent you to hell and the model was removed.I'll use it as a center-piece for my chaos themed table
>>97578407it's kind of nuts that the next preview is a month away and it hasn't released but if anything it presages basically zero content for TOW for a long time, as per the rumour. We're looking at anything previewed in March coming out September earliest.
>>97578577Your September prediction doesn’t track with last years March Cathay reveal that the had pre orders up end of June for first week of July release
>>97578587last year didn't have a 40k edition release retard, not was that even remotely a 'typical' GW release.
>>97578623Calm down Mr. esl. A new edition doesn’t mean we can’t get a couple kits thrown our way in the same timeframe.
>>97571204Since the 2010s we have been in the Teal Age (tm), before that we were in the Red Age (tm).
>>97573612Every woman in every GW IP has to look like a transexual though
>>97578772Hey Perry! Can you help me identify this strange early Perry dwarf sculpt?
>>97578577Aren't there a few chaos kits or so coming? Surely those won't take 6 months to drop.
>>97577322Scroll all the way down here for the official interactive map>https://start-warhammer.com/theoldworld/
>>97578843is there a .png somewhere? I'd like to use it for campaigns
Someone from reddit has turned the entire map into .png format:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HG64S9nA6BV7zasNX88CYMs0tOKpL2Uw
>>97578907Meant for >>97578855
>>97578912thanks!
>>97578810The marader kits have come out already, the revamp Warriors, Knights and chosen is still just a rumour
>>97578810The knights and warriors will 99% be shown off at Adepticon.
>>97579061Silence, manlet
>>97573606are they special or core?
>>97579120If you want more pics for your fap folder you could just ask, anon lmfao
>>97579138Short men give me the ick, sorry.
>>97579126Character. You are going to 1v1 her for dominance, right?
Cathay pre order announcement this Sunday. Warriors and Knights kit in 2 weeks. Adepticon preview will be the Tomb Kings vs Wood Elves box.
has anyone heard any leaks about new books for the old world? I think the last thing I read about was something about tomb kings featuring a gay priest thats written by mike brooks, but beyond that I havent seen anything else.
>>97579482Dude, they're releasing the custodes next.
>>97578390If they had just revealed the Marauders at the November show and this Cathay box at the January show then everything would feel like it was released at a normal pace.Revealing the Marauders separately and the Cathay in Nov for release half a year later makes it feel a lot longer than it is.
>>97579489GW in the past have released HH boxes and TOW stuff in the same release weekHE Bloodbowl could also be next week
>>97579652It's weird because I took a break and now the box still isn't here. I just asked in case I missed it and we're now waiting for the stand alone kits.
>>97579667Yeah you're good, should be any week now.They did say on reveal the Cathay stuff would go on preorder LATE Winter, so March makes sense.Would be insane if its not out before Adepticon.
>>97579703What's the date for the Adepticon reveal show?
>>97574001Came home late today so I only finished the reds and started on the gold trim.
>>97577838That's dope. I almost regret not doing something similar with mine. On the other hand, I don't envy you painting these models without subassemblies.
>>97579907Good hustle anon, I hope you intend to rust them up a little at the end, it’s honestly the funnest part.>>97578043Great work anon, do you think it’s worth doing fake scripture on the hanging pennants? - you’d have to do one fake heiroglyph though, admittedly that’s a challenge >>97577937Painful dude, I’m lucky I don’t have to rebase in my area as we all still play 6th.>>97577838The chains are a lovely touch man, but I don’t envy painting the guys already tucked into the chariot.>>97577155Keep at it anon. The orks themselves are looking nice, hopefully you give their weapon wrappings a pass. >>97576644And may I just say thanks to all anons actually hobby posting, you’ve hyped me up shoulder be damned to touch those weapon teams up.I’ve cleaned up the eyes of the front gunners, added some cloth highlights on the off yellow and some a touch more detailing on claws and metals.Now I’m actually done. Shoulder sore but 100% worth.
oh yessss my squigs are taking shape finally oh yessss
>>97580821I considered it. Someone sent me the Khemri hieroglyphs earlier and there's no fucking way I can freehand those cleanly
So, for White Wold knights, are hammers or halberds better?
>>97581556Wolf
>>97581556Where do you see the halberd option at all? I think the wolf hammers are better than the great weapons tho.
Maybe it is great weapons. I was asking my question because my brother plays Empire and has to make this decision.
>>97570407Those are titan forge, i believe. I know I got in on their ks years ago.
>>97581629Wolf Hammers imo
>>97580931Unfathomably soulful. Is that just sand on the bases painted to look like grass?
>>97580931Neat
>>97580931Too dark.
>>97582053>>97582053>>97582053>>97582053New
