Pizza edition>Bans (new)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97564800>TQThoughts on TMNT so far?
>tqhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gcs5k8n-FY
>T.Q.Looks ok. Art and some themes are shit but we are in nebraska so the set looks ok.
why is there not a single white skinned april? not even in special art versions
Not a single fucking monk in the whole set. >NO>MONKS>NO>BUY
>>97574477Looks white enough to me >>97573136(but with somekind of mental disorder) (with little modification people could make that goth british based girl)
>>97574477because white people are evil should be genocided, duh
>>97574487Why the fuck did you expect monks in TMNT of all places?
https://www.mtgo.com/news/mtgo021726#:~:text=MTGO%2Ecom%20Decklists%20UpdateThis should be in the OP under News.
>>97574477What about the Path to Exile reprint of the bonus sheet that uses the original April from the Mirage Comics?
Signpost uncommonDraft archetypes are enemy colors.WB- Ninja tribalUR- ArtifactsBG- Disappear/RevoltRW- AllianceGU- Mutagen
>>97574504>players can't complain about meta numbers if we just hide most of the data1 billion IQ play by wotc, bravo
F L O U R I S H I N GHIGHEST SALES EVER
Thread Theme.And yes, it's the real credits songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vk_uCveYH0
So which TCGs are least bad?
>>97574564I heard flesh and blood is doing good but I have zero clue on how the game works
>>97574535What's the practical implications of this?
>>97574552https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG6biIvLEaoDotP 2014 was fucking kino
>>97574590That every time they fuck up you won't see how it's not a single deck taking 90% of the field
>>97574602But won't it took worse when they're forced to post top 8s that are 7/8 a single deck?
>>97574477>white skinned April>Wizards of the Nose 2026No fucking chance.
>>97574477They made their own TMNT universe so other Aprils are unnecessary.
>>97574477they made aragorn and theoden blackwhat do you expect
>>97574590MTGO formats with low population will have their competitive results severely reduced, for example: Pioneer and Vintage struggle to get just over 32 people in the weekly challenges (which is the minimum amount for the event to fire) so when you look at these in the near future:https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-32-2026-02-17#onlinehttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/vintage-challenge-32-2026-02-15#onlineyou will only see the top8 decklists and nothing elseI think Pauper and Legacy will have enough numbers for top16 but I'm not 100% sure, it's been a while since I checked thier challenge attendanceNothing should change about Modern, there are enough players to maintain the top32 we currently have.
>>97574552HERO FIND YOUR WAYNEVER MIND WHAT THEY ALL SAYIT'S YOUR LIFE, IT'S YOUR DAY
>>97574477>>97574490>>97574611Ahem >>97574505
>>97574610No it can only get better for them, if people show up with 90% of 1 deck (or any %) everyone will see that and there's nothing they can do, if even just 2-4 different decks show up in a top8 then they can claim the field is healthy because there's enough variety, if they don't, then it doesn't matter because it would just show the same % even without the change but if it does it's all to their advantage.Not to mention that this creates a bias, the vast majority shows up with the same deck, then that deck will face each other a lot, while someone with a deck that exists to only beat it may sneak past the shitfield, showing yet again a """healthy""" meta.
>>97574645delete this
>>97574645I don't get it, what does a woman standing around with some turtles behind her have to do with "Path to Exile"?
>>97574535I mean it's hard to argue people are looking to Online as a way to play the game.>Client runs like shit>Looks like shit>WotC keeps fatkidding it for Arena despite Arena somehow being shittier
>>97574665It's a rather weird reference, you'd actually need to read the comic that image is from to get it, which makes it a pretty questionable choice for the bonus sheet. In the issue, the Turtles leave New York and rest at April's farm after they got their asses kicked.
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
>>97574665she's on her way to abort an unplanned turtle-human hybrid pregnancythe fetus is getting exiled
Anybody play forge here? Can I edit the drop tables so that defeated enemies drop true duals more often?
>>97574676Um, OK?
>>97574498Not him but I would've assumed there might be some talking animal kung fu monks somewhere in Ninja Turtles lore
What's with the worm card in puzzle quest
How much more money could nostalgia-riddled Gen Xers still possibly have to spend on stupid shit like t his?
Another jitsu card.
>>97574504>>97574535here's the explanation from the discordtl;dr>stop solving the fucking puzzle so fast you fucking goyim
>>97574778TMNT has cross-generational appeal. They still sell tons of toys every year, and they'll sell even more now that Mattel has bought the license.
>>97574631Looking briefly on Mtgtop8 there's an average of 45.33 players per challenge since the 7th, which would be top 8 only. Highest was 54 and lowest was 35
Just checked spoilersI am going to throw up0 creativity0 balance7 sets per yearCant wait to see next year UB garbage, hope it will cement hasbro for good
Best Mind Rot variant. Will be annoying.
>>9757459010 sets coming in 2027, 6 will be UB
>>97574841why isnt it legendary?
>>97574823>worse OssificationIt’s pig slop but why bother backpedaling at this point
>>97574824I completely forgot we can check those numbers on MTGTop8, I used to check in the client, turns out no format can get to 129+ players, we are only getting top8s and a very few select top16s It's actually so over
>>97574861Planeswalker is no longer a relevant permanent type
>>97574772Hey, a cute girl
>>97574841Literal DoorDash will be in MTG.Bravo
>>97574786That's actually pretty good value
>>97574856Funkopop art for the funkopop game
>>97574806Maybe if the card designs weren't so fucking degenerate, we wouldn't be able to solve the meta so fucking easily.
>>97574926>Ugins your assFunny of you to think that
>>97574945It's deformed.
>>97574957No one plays Ugin outside shitty, irrelevant ramp decks. Kaito is literally the only relevant Planeswalker in Standard right now.
>>97574964If I have another card named Raphael on the field and attack with it, does the ability trigger?
I feel like every 2nd creature is legendary in TNMT, should be real """""fun""""" to draft
>>97574957Why are you randomly talking about what happens to Bolas every night?
>>97574989no
>>97574989No the name has to be the exact same otherwise it's flavor text.
>>97575002The card says "Raphael" thou, not "Raphael, Most Attitude" so by your logic it doesnt proc itself
>>97574999I thought reading the card explained the card?
>>97575002It would also have to include an article, i.e. "Whenever 'a' Raphael attacks", not just "Whenever Raphael attacks"(it would probably also be limited to Raphaels that "you control" as well but whatever)>>97575017On legendaries, the name without the subtitle is used in place of "this creature"
>>97575023It does if you're not poisoned by YGO's psychotic rules text formatting.
>>97574806>studio Xwho the fuck are these people
>>97575050X gon' give it to ya
>>97575050I would assume they make porn.
>>97575066tranny porn I bet
>>97574454>A spicy pizza does 4 damageLook at how much fucking fire this dude is shooting for the same thing. I hate this fucking card. I hate this fucking world. Why has everything gone to FUCKING SHIT EVERYTHING IS SO FUCKING SHIT NOW WHY DO THEY FUCKING RUIN EVERYTHING THOSE GREEDY CORPORATE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will do TMNT prerelease but I'm just going to trade all the cards away after except for any pizza lands I get.
>>97574454Who asked for this?
>>97575039So you support the HearthstoneIfication of MTG instead
>>97574516Our guy(how long for pepe the frog secret lair?)>>97574665After the turtle gang r she goes to a farm to heal.>>97574676Magic deal is a good card, right?>>97574772>>97574786>>97574856good ninjutsu cards>>97574841Atleast the doordasher isn't beating a squire in combat...
>>97575126Are you gonna eat the pizza lands?
>>97575147how did you know
>>97575144Literally what the fuck are you talking about, nigger?
>>97574828a majority of all cards printed this year will be UB :)you lost chud, we're playing fortnite the card game now
>>97575147I already eat the other gards, why wouldn't I?
>>97575128stfu chud everyone at my lgs clapped when the owner announced the date for the TMNT prerelease, and we're all bringing at least 3 friends that like TMNT. we don't need you to make the game great so just get out of our wayyes this is what shills and wotc bootlickers actually believe is happening, rather than the core audience getting replaced by hogs eating at the commanderslop trough
playpremodern
>>97575112>Mono red life gain>A pizza doing more damage than a fucking massive self-immolating fireballYeah honestly it might be one of my least favorite cards of all time. What the actual fucking shit.
I hate it. Jesus Christ and I thought spiderslop was horrid.
>>97575247playpauper
>>97575247I tap seven plains to cast the mighty Eternal Dragon.
>>97575245>stfu chud everyone at my lgs clapped when the owner announced the date for the TMNT prerelease, and we're all bringing at least 3 friends that like TMNT. we don't need you to make the game great so just get out of our way
>>97575259In response I tap Coastal Tower for 1 white mana and cast Swords to Plowshares on your Eternal Dragon.
>>97575256
so whats the deal with okinawa and sais and how problematic they are?
>>97575284Literally nothing, the official word for this set is they did it to make the set more Magicky
>>97575284This fucking Jitte shit PISSES ME OFFHE USES SAI NOT JITTE YOU FUCKING IDIDOTS
>>97575284Even the humble fire shrieker is getting power crept.
>>97575300... wait until he sees Lizard Blades
>>97575284All I know is that the same people who claim that Japan is a harmonious monoculture also claim to be big fans of WWII history, yet seem to have no idea what Japan's homeland defense plan was
>>97575300eh fireshrieker being colorless is still quite unique.
>>97575284>so whats the deal with okinawa and sais and how problematic they are?Is Harry Potter problematic?
>>97575315let me rephrase; what is the supposed problematic nature of sais.
>>97575307>Look it upWhat the fuck? So it's just that shitty TMNT card but better. Fucking retarded.
Turtles is gonna be a flop.Will we ever get another set that'll be scalped to at least double MSRP like FF?
>>97575292>they did it to make the set more MagickyNo one giving believes that. Why would they change one fucking detail and nothing else. The entire set isn't magicky, its not like anyone would notice or care or think waow its just like my boomer mtg!!
>>97575323>Will we ever get another set that'll be scalped to at least double MSRP like FF?Yes.
>>97575333If sais were offensive, why isn't every other new TMNT thing switching to jittes despite it being the Year of the Chud?
>>97575333you know, the jitte, the super distinctive MAGIC weapon! the one thats been on like 3 cards in the past 30 years!
>>97575336Why did you post a picture of your balding uncle? Is he gonna design a good magic set? Does he work for wotc?
>>97575338Sais arent offensiveWotC is overtaken by a brainwashed cult.
>>97575336okay that's a relief.gonna cash out my Arena accounts to win $10,000 worth of Star Trek boxes
>>97575144Hearthstoneification is when you randomly random a random random. The process of making cards that you understand by reading them is "Magicification," I guess.
>>97575347Yeah, neoliberalism. Same as every other company in America
>>97574841Should be hasty or something>>97575338Few companies are as goybeamed as Wizards. Even before Hasbro as a whole got on the woke train they were self-flagellating.
>>97575354Back in the biden era during covid my company paid some DEI agitators to give a presentation. I learned that "getting gypped" actually refers to gypsies and was told it's offensive. So I can't say the whole thing was a waste because it leveled up my arcane knowledge of slurs.That said, it was an excruciating experience. There was a white girl (because of course it was) acting like she was attending a particularly rousing sermon.I feel like my company stopped the worst of that shit ever since the 2024 return of Orange Man.
>>97575347what about sais is getting sjws cultists dilated more than usual
>>97575354>>97575370>>97575373magic the gathering?
>>97575382>magic the gathering?Yes.>>97575284
I only play Magic because I have an IRL friend who plays and playing Magic Arena together is our 'thing'. I am hoping TMNT and Star Trek are shitty enough to convince my friend to stop playing. I am hoping to pivot us into playing League of Legends instead.
>>97575389>irl friend>arena
>>97575395We got priced out of playing with actual cards a few years back.
>>97575389>I am hoping to pivot us into playing League of Legends instead.Why? Have you already given up on your future?
>TIL there's a fifth ninja turtle created for MODERN AUDIENCES>TIL the 5th ninja turtle is female>TIL the 5th ninja turtle is named fucking Jenny>Not Artemisia>Not Lavinia>Not Catharina>Fucking Jenny
>>97575406venus demilo existed for like the last 30 years, anon.
>>97575395What the fuck it's real?
>Ninjutsu>Channel>Ninja tribalTHE KAMIGAWABUNGA MEME WAS RIGHT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>97575382>magic the gathering?Gamer Gate1RRWBattle5 toughnessWhen this battle enters, suspect target creature. Then discard 2 cards and draw 3 cards.----flip side----Asmongold, the CrusaderLegendary Creature - Human WizardHaste.Tap: exile target advisor. Its controller creates a 1/1 employee token and a food token.2/5
>>97575402My friend already knows how to play it and he is too much of a dinosaur to learn a new game.
>>97575389>Magic isn't shitty enough, I want to get him into something shittier!Quintessentially /v/pilled
>no mikey's skateboard equipement that gives hasteIT WAS RIGHT THERE WIZARDS RIGHT FUCKING THERE
>>97575406Yeah sorry mate there was Venus since like the 90s, and she was a terrible mistake (but furries love her). There's also been Slash, Metalhead, probably some others I'm too casul to know. Jenny is just the latest abortion in a long line of em.
>>97575415And you know what the best part is? It'll still be a better successor to Kamigawa, and less cringe in general, than NEOvagina.
Even the professor is supporting Premodern now. What's your excuse?
>>97575423>whenever a Rat dies, create an Alarm Clock token
>>97574841
>>97575468game suxplay cube
>>97575468>the professorHe also invites fat trannies into his home, am I supposed to do the same??
Gruul Pizza doordashing aggro will be meta
I only have a few friends to play MTG with, so I like building micro-cubes. What do you guys think of this one? The intention is a premodern vibe with a very small amount of modern glue.https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/11893048-d060-4156-aad1-d02ebe40fc9e
I wonder if this MTGO Challenge data restriction means they might be coming for 17lands next.There is so much data now I can more or less figure out each Limited set in 2 days from launch, then the rest of the playerbase catches up by the end of the week. Which is good for dunking on nerds but probably not good for the game.
>>97575537gross
>>97575537she's cute
>>97575624I think Limited is safe because it costs the same amount of money for every player to get in
>>97575537>>97575638>>97575648When you are a 5 foot tall South East Asian who weighs 90lbs, what else are you gonna do? Pretend to be a man?
>>97575648nigger look at that arm and hand, he's fucking larger than mengucci
>>97574454>pizza bukkake armor
WotC really needs to make a separate Commander The Gathering game.
>>97575389I played league for 8 years, I cannot imagine going back to playing with randoms, I would unironically rather beat my dick with a hammer
>>97575669They're allegedly working on a third digital client for it. I can't wait for them to embarrass themselves if their 5e VTT (and honestly Arena and Online too) is anything to go off.
>>97575664goddamn look at Mengucci's bald spot
>>97575500It's okay, Seth. We're all hurting. You don't have to force yourself to smile.
Help me brew it /tg/
>>97575696>They're allegedly working on a third digital client for itunless they're planning to force people to play precons against each other, that can't be right, commander's card pool is bigger than vintage, if you have the entire commander card pool playable, you have every other format in the game
>>97575712That's why I fully expect them to embarrass themselves. They'll probably try rolling out a Commander client with fewer cards than there are on Arena and it will be DoA. WotC's response of course will be to DMCA Tabletop Sim.
>>97575711Multiple anons have already tried and failed. It's just not consistent.
>>97575727This. They will "curate" what cards are allowed in so they can slowly resell them and run a pseudo banlist plus use it as a sort of format reset (to even further distance themselves from stuff like the Reserved List). There's also no way the jeets they hire to program could program all that cardboard successfully, Arena barely runs already and it has years of missing cards.
Is it still worth playing competitively anymore if this is just going to be my prize packs?
OHNONONONOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBvwSmevjzk
>>97575757
>>97575757I've been watching there guys for months and this was the video that made me realize they're magic artists, I thought they were just random dudes talking about game design
>>97575757Watched one of these guys videos>thumbnail is typical IT'S OVER clickbait>video name is THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED IN MAGIC clickbait>actual content is an incredibly milquetoast critique of UB with an "ah shucks it's probably not going away" conclusion so as not to offend WOTCShan't be watching another
>>97575769Man, it's fucked up how much Modern Horizons has powercrept Modern Horizons out of Modern
>>97574535This is going to make Pioneer look unbelievably stale (Fact check: True)
>>97575769
>>97575340b-b-but umezawa's jitte!NOW SHUT UP AND CONSOOM THE PRODUCT GOY
>>97575757More pizza art AI lands!
>>975758061. I don't read descriptions I just watch the videos2. That specific description does not mention they're magic artists, just artists and game designers
>>97575669commander players are subhuman and if I could go back in time to kill the faggots that created edh I would. parasite that has finally started killing its host
Magic is COOKED.And if this game was a Pizza it would be this disgusting banana garlic disaster.
>>97575901In better times these would be snot
>>97575901
>>97575757>WOTC pay more per piece on UB art>artists are much less able to monetize the art after the initial sale>only the more desperate artists will end up grabbing UB commissions. The less experienced. The less inspired.>WOTC is paying more for worse art. And also licensing fees.
>>97575794>Babylon wages war on Babylon
>>97575901shrunken head with a pizza hat
>>97575901they should make a bloodmoon that turns your cards into pizzasit would see play in legacy.
>>97576070>all nonbasic lands are food tokensthat would get banned in a week
>>97576082>Oko, Even Worse GUR>Legendary Creature - Elf Warlock>Nonbasic lands are Elks. (They are 3/3 green Elk creatures and lose all other abilities)>3/3
>>97575773I saw some of their videos and on a couple of them they made some bad takes and had to fight for their lives in the comments. It was pretty funny, but I wouldn't watch anymore of them.
>>97574454I vill no bean play Tortin Time
>>97576082no , I mean this specific pizzas.
This is pretty fucking cool
>>97576232It's really sad how WOTC never tried to capitalize on any of the Magic-specific tribes with stuff like this. Until we got Loot I guess.
>>97576232>>97576245That looks amazing but I'd be extremely worried about posing it too much
>>97576240I saw Ultra Pro made little vinyl pop figures of a sliver and a myr. But this thing looks amazing like it's really metal
Big!
>>97576254Do you think it's made to be played with?
>>97576254Oh I guess you can play with it! I've never seen anything like this before
>>97575939and they're DEFINITELY not using ai gen'd art for those commissions *wink wink*
>>97574454Ok, I haven't played or kept up with MTG for years, came back to check it out and wtf is that card? Teenage mutant ninja turtles?? Wtf kind of insanity happened to the lore? I thought this was a meme edit until I searched it up.
I am a pig and I buy plastic slop
>>97575247I built moneyball black, but the next premodern tournament is in March 2026, sigh
>>97576338Ew, a biological woman
>>97575413Yep. The guy made a live and in about 20 minutes of it he was losing it and using shades to not show his sadness.>>97575711Tier 2 deck. Lots of on attack triggers. RW deck btw.>>97576322Indeed.
>>97575406It's Jennika, Jenny is just her nickname the same way Michelangelo is Mikey. She was created as a Foot ninja before they decided to turn her into a Turtle, which is why she doesn't have an "artistic" name, although they did consider giving her one.I'm actually surprised she didn't get a Rare or Mythic card, and whatever card she's inevitably getting hasn't been spoiled/leaked yet. Plenty of much more irrelevant characters from the comics got rarer cards.
>>97574516>5 archetypesIt really is spoderman again, innit?
>>97575284Sai are an Okinawa farming used against the Japanese since the Japanese took their swords. The cultural consultants don't want a Japanese archetype to wield an Okinawa weapon. Michelangelo is allowed to wield an Okinawa weapon since he's the weirdo but Raphael is serious so he needs to wield a Japanese weapon.
>>97576338>the next tournament is in 10 daysHonestly bretty good for an eternal format. My city operates monthlies so I'm fortunate to never be more than ~40 days from an event.
>>97576423It's a small set as well. The Hobbit is probably one as well and Strixhaven is also going to probably focus on 5 again.
>>97574454>>97575665>>97575901>>97576062Holy heck. A pizza theme?!? What the hell?
is there any dimir deck that plays deceit + spider man other than excruciator?that combo seems so fun and broken but idk if i want to play that specific deck
>>97576466Probably not Strix, Hobbit maybe. I'm convinced that this is the lasting impact of Epilogue boosters. They went all-in on this, just for Aftermath to crash and burn, so OTJ's got converted into a bonus sheet. They tried to salvage Assasin's Creed by moving up to 7 cards and throwing in a score of reprints on top, and then that blew up in their faces, too. But by that point, Spidey and Turtles were too far down the pipeline, so they went to "just blow it up to like 200 cards or something and we can sell it as a totally real set. Draft environment? Make it 5 archetypes or something, fuck it."
Please for the love of god make a pizza deck top tier in Standard because that'd be so fucking funny
boneless pizza
How many of you understand that you can just stop buying sealed products?You can just not buy them.At all.
>Mark Rosewater justifies creating UB because AND I QUOTE HIM DIRECTLY "there is no vocal opposition to UB sets">Watch TNMT stream reveal on official MTG stream>Type "This is souless slop i hate you for destroying something i loved since i was 12">Get permanently bannedHuh?
>>97576779>how much did you spend on the latest UB set?>we're sorry, you fall outside the target demographic for this survey. Thank you for your time.
TMNT looks like ass, should I still go to the prerelease to support my lgs?
Got any pricey cards? Do you ever splurge to buy alternate art versions of cards you can get much cheaper in other versions?
>>97576808Go in the morning of and buy literally anything else.
>>97576779You cant do that that would hurt the designer's feelings
>>97576779>Our randomized biannual phone survey suggests that 99% of respondents who didn't immediately hang up or say "What the fuck is Magic the Gathering?" expressed neutral* or positive feelings towards Universes Beyond sets>* - "What the fuck is Universes Beyond?" is being counted as neutral for the purposes of this survey>With this extremely reliable data, we can conclude that the portion of the player base with negative opinions toward UB are negligible.
>>97576808Buy out their soda fridge instead
>>97576897Its just the opinion of a vocal minority over the internet. Pay no mind to them.
>>97575711There's multiple one drops this can get quest counters from in standard.
>>97576779How reliable is that data? Because across all the internet, not only here, all i can read about sets like this one or Marvel is words of absolute disgust and how shitty modern Magic is specifically UB Magic.
>>97576808Supporting lgs for the sake of supporting lgs is cuckoldry.
>>97576990Dont ask questions just consume thing goy
How different would modern MTG be if they had refused the Hasbro deal back in the day?
>>97575735sounds like quitter talk to me
>>97577038WotC would probably get bought by a different company anyway at some point, so impossible to know.
>>97576990>How reliable are biannual random cold call phone polls in 202X about a children's card game?I can't think of a more reliable source of data
>>97576844A similar such PSA chinese gala greeters and 2 realatively cheap serialized artifact cards from BRO, some star and a golem don't really remember the names.....
>>97576779> The number of people who dislike UB is shrinking with time.So there is a changing of player base from FNM enjoyers to EDH piggies. Which one are you?
Fuck UB. Fuck Magic.
This Turtles set feels like something that should just been left on the drawing board and never made into a real set. The player numbers will be grimm for this set
>nowhere as broken as hyped >nowhere as useless as doomed perfectly balanced
>>97577288Truly feels like SPM 2.0>too many legends >Ninjutsu again(again)>small set size
>>97577288one can only hope money lost is the only language these people speak
>>97577333It's an incredibly satisfying anti-counter, I'll give you that
>>97577288Following the prerelease event attendance sign-ups from nearby local game stores, it's looking quite abysmal.
>>97577333I'm just annoyed by how most effects now have "Your opponent" baby wheels, so this can't shine as hard as it could
>>97577364best news I've had all year >>97577288Pretty sure it was a deal package by Paramount. "You want Avatar and Star Trek? Fine, but you gotta buy the rights for a Turtles set too."
If TMNT flop we just have to make Star Trek flop too and maybe this game has a chance.
>>97577386>best news I've had all year It's great for the set getting poor reception, but really shit for stores because next product stock they receive will affected by event attendance. Next highly anticipated set might get low supply around my area only because Turtles did poor.
>>97577417i grieve for the LCSs, but the whole stock system is rotten anyway change can't come without pain
There is no fixing the game without completely replacing the people behind the game. Power creep needs to be reset before the art matters. At this point the only entertainment I get from modern sets is morbid curiosity.PlayKitchen Table
>>97577354WotC didn't lose any money on spiderman, all the pokebros saw how successful ff was and preordered everything from the first print run
>>97577407Here is the Battle plan >TURTLESthe job is done, everyone is reviling it as the slop it is. will fight Spiderman for the title of worst UB set. >STRIXHAVEN we must highlight the Harry Potter connection as much as possible. Make the Rowling derange syndrome troons seethe and hate it >MarvelMCU fatigue is at an all time high, there has not been a successful reignition for years. we most focus on on making doomsday flop so this advertisement excuse for a set flops alongside it >Hobbit Jackson's hobbit movies where pure slop and Hollywood franchise milking at it's highest greed. (Before RANGS anyway) Connect the two to undermine it as a whole. Meme the worst aspects of the trilogy and associate them to the set >fracture planar chaos 2.0 with obvious BOLAS as the twist villain. Slop, but UW slop at least. >TREK highlight how Eternities was just a springboard for trek and future Scify franchises. Trrek as a franchise has been bad for longer than is has been good. Remind everyone of the gigantic flops Paramount has shoved down everyone's throats and poison any nostalgia they might try to use to bait old trekkies into buying it as memorabilia.
>>97577448>WotC didn't lose any money on spidermanyou're not thinking as an executive anything with Spiderman on the name that doesn't sell a gazillion dollars is obviously a garbage product that left huge swaths of potential money on the table
>>97577448Doesn't matter. Hasbro's line has to go up.
>>97577407>LorwynDid above average>TurtlesAbysmal, slightly above spiderman, below Aetherdrift>StrixhavenWill do okay, collector boosters will spike because of the japanese scroll arts>super heroesCommander products will do very well, constructed players will not touch it>hobbitI wish it would bomb but the cattle will buy this up even if they turn every character black and gay. All products sold out, similar to FF. Wotc will be delighted to see that finally one of their products did well and crank up the volume in a second print run, ruining both the singles and sealed market.>reality fractureToo few infos to know how it will be received. The overprinting of hobbit will mean this set will be printed short, leading to initial extra hype and overpriced singles.>star trekThe last set of the year, meh IP that is difficult to translate into magic art, and the accumulated product fatigue will make this set one of the worst magic has ever seen. We might see sales numbers below even spiderman.
>>97575395>airing your dirty laundry on your magic livestreamSuch is the life of the simpThis guy is beyond pathetic
>>97575395This is woman behavior. The people who grift off of Magic are faggiest group of men. Seth probably has the most T levels and he is a home bound fatty.
Best way to gift stun counters on my stuff to my opponent's stuff?
lol dead game
Trek will save MtG
>>97577609In what format?
>>97577628Yes
>>97575395Damn, this makes me sad. I would always tell myself that if this guy could find a wife then so could I.
Video games are officially /tg/ now.
>>97577588ENTER
>>97574645why is there Michael Jackson on a MtG card?
>>97577742
>>97577742I say we make a /v/ refugee general
>>97577781Heh
>>97577742>Four counters for three colorless mana
>>97577742WHY IS THIS A MAGIC CARD
>>97577742>play this on arena>mfw playing a card with a videogame in it inside a card game videogame
>>97577825Ok, now this post is epic.You get +10 internets, fellow gamer.
>>97574856Unfortunate set symbol placement
>>97576969so true xister, nobody in my pod knows what a strixhaven or lorwyn is but we're so excited for the Star Trek(tm) set later this year! think of how many fun commanders they'll add!
>>97577863My money is on legendary starships with a special version of partner
>>97577524I think you're right about everything but trek. actual players will be burned out but commander hogs will go crazy for it. you have no idea how many millenials will line up at the trough for that one because muh tng nostalgia
>>97577891They will also be both stations and vehicles at the same time!
>>97577742Can you feel the sword and sorcery of western fantasy anons?
>>97577934>Legendary Artifact -- Spacecraft Vehicle
>>97577742Embarrassing display
>>97577985I mean, it's an arcade, what did you expect, 4k?
>>97577988i think no one expected what is currently happening with this game at all...
>>97577781they call him Arcade, because he not here to play games
>>97575395Man, i am glad I didn't end up marrying the first girl who gave me attention.
>>97578041>Ok now I’ll cast my Furher>you mean commander…>Zats vot I said, mein Furher
>>97578041Leftie having a meltdown over stupid thingslmao.
>>97578041At this point would be really that terrible to have Adolf, Joseph, Mao and Benito? We have shit like pic related in this game already is all a pure joke.
>>97578041do consoomers not even know the basics about what they're consooming?
>>97578061>as I have invoked the Reich twice, I shall pay my Furher four additional shekels
Premodern bros rate my pet deck idea.Main plain is boucing my own creatures and abuse the ETB effects.The Floodgate is a mini one side Wrath of God.
>>97578041Here we go
>>97578041There are satanic cannibal pedophiles running most western governments and losers like this are upset about fictional nazis in their slop card gamesMaybe we are just cattle
>>97577588Is this Morcant's face model?
>>97577805Terrible
>>97576779That paragraph is already full of corporate speak>Strongly dislikes>stronglymeans there's others who mildly dislike it>9% that's a massive number 1 out of 10 people hate your shit, that's fucking huge.
>>97577779So April was supposed to be black debate over.
>>97578183Is it tho?
>>97578178>Green kikes looked at this and said “oyvey it should be on my mythic creature but infinitely better”
>>97574786You can return those tokens for more sneak/ninjutsu right since it's still declare blockers step?
>>97578229This plus mobilize will make sneak fucking cancer.
>>97578069>BenitoAND THE BLUE MEANIE AND COWBOY CURTIS AND JAMBI THE GENIE
>>97578254>is literally magic the gathering nowIt wasn't meant to be a documentary
>>97577407We love Trek though
>>97578254>>97578262>GodzillaBatman/Bruce WayneShaquille O'NealAaron CarterAbraham Lincoln>Optimus PrimeJackie ChanIndiana JonesA Care BearChuck Norris>Gandalf the Grey>Gandalf the White>Black Knight (Monty Python)Benito MussoliniChief Blue MeanieCowboy CurtisJambiRoboCopThe Terminator>James T. KirkDarth VaderLo PanSupermanEvery single Power RangerBill S. PrestonTed Logan>SpockDwayne 'The Rock' Johnson>Doctor OctopusHulk HoganFred RogersWe're getting there.
>standard mono red has turn 0 plays
>>97578280Bring back Leyline of Punishment
I'm so hyped for the new card bros.
>>97578267I could see the ones based on fictional characters all happening (except the Blue Meanie, Cowboy Curtis, and Lo Pan), those based on real people not so much.
>>97578332I would agree with you, but we also got Post Malone, so it's a nonzero chance.
>>97578332The Indiana Jones UB is gonna be KINO
>>97578041Bros help me make a b1 nazi deck
>>97578305Lots of good jizzcore cards this set
>>97578431
>>97578267>Robocop UB>Star Wars UB>Power Rangers UBFeels so fucking bad yet you know is happening...
>>97577407Naw trek is based.
>>97577524>The last set of the year, meh IP that is difficult to translate into magic art, and the accumulated product fatigue will make this set one of the worst magic has ever seen. We might see sales numbers below even spiderman.Ok zoomer
>>97577781> pizza time is backwards
>>97578488We've got a detective over here!
>>97578131Seems like a meme deck.
>>97578442Wait until they learn about all the eugenics Urza did
Tbh making a set centered around pizza is not really beating the slop allegations.
>>97575284https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/raphaels-jittedamage control in progress
Test
>>97578630I hate vehicles
what is the difference between a sai and a jitte
>>97578643 origin and if it has on or two flanges
>>97578639I disliked vehicles at first but now I kind of enjoy them. Lets face it, vehicles may as well have been canon ever since Weatherlight. Its just that sets like Aetherdrift exist.Pic rel is actually a card that feels fun and makes memorable moments all the time.
I like vehicles. I like the OG Kaladesh. This fucker won me so many limited games.
How much design space is left in this game? Genuine question.
>>97578736>How much design space is left in this game? Genuine question.As a /ccg/fag I'd say that about 15% of the game's functional, actually usable design space has been explored so far.
>>97578630Hey man, why you gotta post that? The jokes of Indians getting run over by trains isn't just unfunny, it's racist. You shouldn't laugh or make jokes about accidents involving->>97578701...Oh, never mind then.
>>97578736There's quite a lot left once you start to move away from "put +1/+1 counter on guy" and "draw card only once each turn".
>>97578736As much as WotC and Hasbro are willing to cram.>Jurassic Park>Doctor Who>Warhammer 40k>Fallout>My Little Pony>Spongebob SquarepantsThese are sagas that have SL but still dont have sets in Constructed that they can decide to add>Star Wars>Game of Thrones>Mario>Zelda>Pokemon>Minecraft>Power Rangers>Resident EvilAll of these don't have SL but have chances of getting full constructed setsBesides pic related, so imagine until 2030.
>>97574856>mutant ninja turtle human
>>97577781Had a chuckle, well done
>>97578663I run into a lot of Greasefang decks running this and they can be annoying but I'm glad they at least made the cards competitive. I'm guessing Trek will do something to break spacecrafts since those are basically all terrible.
>>97578778>ub until 2030
>>97578736Honestly a lot, its just that we have a bunch of uncreative retards camping in critical design spaces.
>>97575243Based ratchad
>>97578778Is TMNT more appropriate property than whatever else was available?
I have a rules questionIf I reanimate a creature with first strike, will it deal no damage that combat because it missed out the first strike damage step?
>>97578909No but was easier thanks to some kind of deal with Nickelodeon
>>97578910it will still deal damage if if it "misses" the first strike window due to being brought back after
>>97578910it will still deal damage, the regular damage step is for every attacking or blocking creature that hasn't dealt combat damage yet (and double strikers)
My toes, my toes card when?
>>97578643A sai is a farming tool.A jitte is a police weapon.
>>97578947>A jitte is a police weapon.that's problematic
have we seen any random mook cards yet?
>>97578041Just wait until they find out about German Language>>97578431https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&extras=true&lang=any&order=name&q=f%C3%BChrer&unique=cardsGodspeed, anon
>>97578910Look how they massacred my OG waifu
>>97578971Wtf, Aragorn is Fuhrer? I love him now
So its safe to assume this products are coming as UB in future, what are non hasbro ips Wotc will try to shoehorn in MTG?My bet:Demon SlayerNarutoFrierenCowboy beebopBleachRobocopRamboTerminatorPath of exile/DiabloOverwatchLeague of legends will probably say no because they already have physical TCG, but dota is on the table
>>97579003Harry PotterKpop Demon HuntersMinecraft
>>97579003>Nerf MTG cardsI load exploding foam darts into my Nerf Gun and attach it to Black Panther then use him to crew the Batmobile and attack for 20 damage
They're getting meta now.
>>97579003It's quite surprising they aren't capitalizing on Frieren giga worldwide popularity, the set would easily double FF in sales.
>>97579022
>>97579022damn these artists are garbage, the masks don't even look like cloth, he just lazily painted them over their face like a 5 years old would.
>>97579026Yeah, even shadowverse 2 (dogshit game, dont even bother checking it) managed to get Frieren collab on the Peak of anime popularity. No idea why wotc doesnt bother (perhaps those cunts are to jewish to shill some dosh).
>>97579039>No idea why wotc doesnt bother (perhaps those cunts are to jewish to shill some dosh).I would guess whoever is making the decisions, on top of being jewish, is also an old boomer who goes:remember furbies???remember final fantasy????remember lotrs????remember turtles????etc, probably hasn't watched Frieren or kept up with current trends.
>>97579022thanks, i hate it
>>97579022crept?
>>97579071not quite, tapped vs untapped land
>>97579022DO NOT REDEEM!
>>97579022>A game of MTG depicted on a Universes Beyond cardjesus fucking christ it is so fucking over
So this is the card that's likely to see eternal play isn't it.
>>97578280All the one mana sneaks can be played on turn one. Neat.
>>97579104
earthbending the removal deserts is FUN
>>97579115>2 vs 4>Tapped vs untapped>1W vs WWBrought Back never saw anything, admittedly, but Continue might just for more flexibility.
this turtle set is EXTRA sloppy holy fuckIt's like they took the feedback of "Can you please not just make every fucking UB card a shitty cringe meme and instead focus on the actual content of the IP?" and decided to double down on gay memes in spite of the critiques.
>>97579140The actual content of the IP is that though.
>>97579143Honestly? No.Turtles is a surprisingly rich IP with dense history and creativity to it. Even as a comedy/satire IP, they chose to focus on the meta-comedy of shit memes rather than the actual comedy built into the series. It's fucking SO GOD DAMNED SHIT.
Tasty
>>97579163>"Science Geek"this game is so fucking deadit has no aura anymoreit's over
Will it be reprinted in the Marvel set?
>>97579174>3a.m.>Doesn't make it Night when it enters.ONEJOB
>Legendary creature>Legendary creature>Legendary creature>Do this For each opponent>Each opponent does this action>This ability procs one time per turnEDH ruined everything
>>97579184EDH is the default way of playing "Magic".
>>97579022Lita's card.
ALLIANCE IS THE SHITTIEST MOST BORING PHONED IN FUCKING GARBAGE SHIT ASS MECHANIC OF ALL TIME HOLY FUCK
>>97579174Commander seems to have the more egregious cards.
>>97579022is that sans undetale? what is that brown thing between his back and sweater?
At this point I feel pity for this game. Posting /ccg/ cards is preferable to this.
>>97579237That's her shell. Lita's a child that got turned into a turtle because... IDW comic stuff, I think.
>>97579022No one actually holds their cards like that except ygo anime characters
>>97579115hey, this one hits artifacts and enchantments! (like that's ever mattered)
>>97579167Hacktivist was way worse
>>97579104Isnt this going to destroy modern with all Evoke MH2 cards?literally turn 2 win
>>97579022The inconsistent card sizes are annoying me
>>97579240>Posting /ccg/ cards is preferable to this.You got it!It's moved to a keyword. I though something so niche would settle only as a unique single card, but it turns out this shit plays very well. Pump spells turn into drain spells. Some removal turns into pump spells. It goes very well with the -1/-1 counter set theme, too. Been expanding it to the entire UB set archetype, which was previously a rather bog standard boring mill theme.Don't mind the experiment with wording, I'm just fucking around. These are intuitive enough I hope, "Held" = in hand, "Dead" = in graveyard. Probably won't stick.
Why does a media franchise that's been around for 40 years need to have 5 different versions of each main protag taking up card slots plus multiple duo legendaries? Was there really nothing else they could use?
>>97579244why is she white
>>97579314For the same reason that you are black.
>>97578614Damn, they are peak retards.>Our team was thrilled when Nickelodeon gave us their blessing to create our own uniquely Magic version of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles universe. We are huge fans of the fab four and wanted to share that love, and a huge part of that was identifying what makes TMNT feel so important.>>97578643Left is a Jitte, right is a sai (PIC)
>>97579314Albino turtle
>>97579274not at all, grief and fury are still banned, if you want to dump your hand on turn 2 to end up with a couple of 3/2s with lifelink you can be my guest
>>97579326Sais arent japanese
>>97579335Neither are mutant turtles
>>97578614>>97579326>https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/raphaels-jitteTL:DR : We did it because we fucking wanted to, watchu gonna do about it?
>>97579326>Say Raphael does not have Sai>Card art literally have him with a Sai (despite the card being named Jitte)lmao
>"We have to change it to a Jitte, because a Jitte is more Magic-y!"the incompetence on display is unfathomable
>>97579104Maybe but probably not
>>97579174No, since it's a Turtles in Time referencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnFcArSTmD8
>>97579240The last custom cards were an embarrassment.
Works with Sneak but not Ninjutsu.
>>97579240
how can we unfuck this timeline?
>>97579335The turtles are from New York
>>97579420EasyWe ALL just have to completely ignore UB prereleases and products, just dont go to LGS during launch event dont buy UB products, DONT PARTICIPATE IN UB DISCUSSIONS except saying "FUCK UB"I am doing my part
>>97579335Nunchucks aren't either
NGL bros, this set reminded me how creative people were before zoomers and shit.Just think about it>Mutant turtles>trained to be ninjas>4 distinct cool weapons>main villain is alien>The father is Kung-fu ratWe didnt know how good we had it.
>>97579494It was a parody of Daredevil too
Bionicle UB when?
>>97579494Ninja Turtles is fucking radical and the original run of their comics was easily one of the top 10 comic runs OF ALL DAMN TIME (fight me, it's fucking legendary)Reminder that this is what they took from you, and they think it's funny how all you have left is the fucking god-awful insufferable garbage they shit out.
Don matter. I like Final Fantasy. I like ATLA. I don't want either in MTG.
>>97579052How do you even make a 100 card UB set for Frieren? Its a very lightweight series, if were talking about lore.
>>97579719Lore is from Star Trek TNG, not some chinese cartoon
I like ST, i like Hobbit/LOTR, i like FFSeeing all of this in Magic makes me wanna puke, specially Star Trek.
>>97579842Extremely retarded.
>>97579719There's a fuckton of spells, characters and background characters as well as artifacts to pull from, you can easily make a full sized set.
it's even worse than I could have imagined
Is there still time to sell out of this game?
>>97579939Sure
>>97579939Yep, the EDH crash hasn't happened yet. You're good to go.
>>97579558>fat gay trans onua
>>97579052>Final fantasystill alive>LOTRFantasy stapleI'm more surprised why they haven't bothered with Fromsoft games, despite getting a ton of Playstation SLDs.
Fuck you were announcing Legend of Korra set
>>97580022Bamco owns Dark Souls and Elden Ring, and they're toe to toe with WOTC in terms of jewishness
>>97580047Woah! Based and cool!
>>97580022>>Final fantasy>still alivelollmao
>>97579198>turtle>amphibian
This set is gay
Gay? This set is pure unadultered garbage
>>97579198This is so close to having the Loot factor but it looks just a little too sentient and a little too tall. Would not throw this one off a cliff.
>>97579198Do you anons get this urge to grab this thing by both feet, spin around and throw her off a cliff or somewhere else high so it can finally die for good?
>>97579253I do.
>>97580312that's what gay means
>>97580358No. I am normal.
well, can I?
>>97578041>nazi>noblemmmm wizards???
>>97578979not only its a better effect it can be sneak from the command zonemtg is dead
>>97578504>Urzawho? which UB set is he from
>>97580582STOP THE PRESSESSJWS HATE THE TMNT SETWE HAVE TO PIVOTWE HAVE TO LIKE THE TURTLES TO OWN THE LIBSI REPEATWE HAVE TO LIKE THE TURTLES
>>97580623proof or it didnt happen
>>97580582If you want to remain competitive? With cards like pic related? Of course you can't.
>>97580669Why did you say that while posting a picture of a Tarmogoyf?
>brother in law is a huge tmnt fan>sister is insisting i get him something for his birthdayIs the set getting a two-deck starter set? Like the starter sets from avatar, Final Fantasy, and bloomburrow?
>>97580623What do you mean anon, we always loved the turtles here
>>97580764>Is the set getting a two-deck starter set? Like the starter sets from avatar, Final Fantasy, and bloomburrow?As someone that loves TMNT, if someone gifted me this fucking garbage I would spit in their face and throw the gift in a sewer.
>>97580764No the closest is the boss battle box set.
>>97580789Bitch, we know you'd mumble your thanks and shove it in the back of a drawer
>>97580803fuck sake isn't that like $40fuck my stupid gay chud life
>>97580806I would, in fact, NOT mumble a thanks.Silence and a kick in the dick is my final offer.
>Spiderman>TMNT>New YorkWhat are the top decks in New York Block Constructed?
>>97580764>>97580803bygone shill
>>97580582powercreep says: No!
>>97581032>>97581032>>97581032
>>97581036Wow what a shitty thread.
>>97581036>>97581041let's ignore it
>>97581104Yep. Rather let it die than post in that shit.Speaking of which, why not let it die?
>>97577742How does this make any sense from a flavor standpoint? Playing arcade games makes you physically stronger and tougher?
>>97581630don't ask questions goy, consume the slop.
>>97581630Up to 4 people get transported into the video game world and get stronger the more they train in the simulation.
>>97581036>>97581107BECAUSE I MUST CONSOOM and your boycott will do NOTHING
