[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/tg/ - Traditional Games


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: sucks_actually.png (1.01 MB, 2144x992)
1.01 MB
1.01 MB PNG
Coolest thing ever edition

>Bans (new)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97574454

>TQ
How do we fix Izzet so it isnt constantly the best deck in format?
>>
>>97581032
predict the landfill count
>>
>(literal coolest thing ever)
If you don't see the issue with all of the crossover cards, every single one of them, then you're beyond help.
>>
File: 1771367204326141.jpg (22 KB, 540x502)
22 KB
22 KB JPG
Maybe if magic's in-universe lore actually mattered none of this would've happened
>>
I'm just gonna say it...
I would have been fine with UB if they stuck to fantasy and fantasy-coded Sci-fi.
>>
>>97581117
sure anon, fujos writing jace x urza fanfic definitely would have stopped hasbro from making decades of poor decisions and then cashing out of the magic brand
>>
File: 1740043020119499.jpg (37 KB, 640x480)
37 KB
37 KB JPG
>>97581164
i take it back im sorry i doubted you anon
>>
>>97581130
it would always be gay but at least its easy to tolerate FF or avatar UB. its a bit annoying to know that chocobos are from some other IP but its not fucking bagel and schmear
>>
>>97581130
I would at least puke less with a GoT or i dont know Gargoyles or Wheel of Time
>>
>>97581130
This is the permissive attitude that allowed this to happen in the first place. If LotR etc had been roundly rejected by the player base, they would have aborted UB. You get all of it or you get none of it.
>>
>>97581354
We'd get four fucking Goliaths and still end up with a land base composed of New York skylines
>>
>>97581130
>fantasy UB is fine
>therefore fantasy-horror UB is fine
>therefore horror UB is fine
>therefore cheerleaders and cameras are fine
>therefore 70s New York is fine
>therefore modern New York is fine
First step of the slippery slope
>>
>>97581751
>fantasy UB is fine
Some are, generally they’re okay but some don’t fit. For example if we started getting the vending machine isekai or adventure time they’re clearly jokes/memes so would be retarded. Tmnt is even worse than both!

>therefore fantasy-horror UB is fine
Yes, we’ve had Innistrad. Love it or hate it the plane is mtg.

>therefore horror UB is fine
No, without the fantasy part it’s no longer a good fit. Unfortunately the walking dead secret lair did well so here we are.

>therefore cheerleaders and cameras are fine
What? No. This is based on something already a step too far. He was saying the fantasy part is what’s needed you moron.

>therefore 70s New York is
Even assuming the last one was okay which it absolutely isn’t this is a big step.

>therefore 70s New York is fine
No it’s not. Your entire post is ludicrous. The fact WoTC seems to agree with this retarded UB idea is appalling.

You can be okay with Final Fantasy, Avatar etc but not the Walking Dead. That is a perfectly fine place to draw the line. They’ve power crept the fucking shit out of TMNT to sell cards but they can’t do that forever and I fucking pray it still flops hard. Rip in peace magic if it succeeds. We will be buried in even more slop and they’ll probably shoot the mtg universes in the head. Given how every mtg character is now a nigger or a faggot they already have in many ways.
>>
File: 1764299565683908.jpg (29 KB, 640x480)
29 KB
29 KB JPG
>>97581751
None of it is fine in the first place but with how the IP is managed where its own universe barely even matters to players, I would've at least wished they stuck with fantasy-adjacent IP to collaborate with.
>>
>>97581751
I feel a lot of these things make more sense as Commander precons meant to be played together, since that's basically treated like a customizable board game. Pic related.
Doctor Who was a Planechase set with cards that relied on playing against the other decks.
>>
File: tmh2-16-construct.jpg (153 KB, 672x936)
153 KB
153 KB JPG
I want to draw some custom Urza's Saga Construct tokens but I don't like the aesthetic of the actual ones or any of the other custom ones I've seen.
What would look good yet still be immediately recognizable as a 'Construct'?
Anything in art history? would rather not go sci-fi
>>
>>97581790
>Yes, we’ve had Innistrad.
NTA but exactly, death to theme park IP-with-the-serial-numbers-filed-off slop like Twilightstrad. Just because it's "old" to newfags doesn't make it acceptable.
>>
File: 1746535616138248.jpg (447 KB, 816x1110)
447 KB
447 KB JPG
>>97581846
There are a number of websites and databases dedicated to various types of classical artwork. I stumbled across a Russian website from the early 2000s containing a huge number of 70s-90s fantasy works, both Magic, DND and otherwise and used them to make some tokens of my own which I had printed.
https://lcrazzy dot narod dot ru/fantasy.htm
You can also use the traditional_media tag on your choice of booru, or check artstation or pixiv. Most of those are dominated by digital art though.

For a more concrete suggestion maybe a stone statue of some kind, but not a realistic sculpture
>>
Sealed feels so fucking ass to play. The decks are retarded garbage and you can easily end up going through the first 2-3 turns playing nothing but lands.
>>
>>97581751
>>therefore cheerleaders and cameras are fine
We've had actual acrobats. This girl could have been a Rakdos performer who walked through the wrong door, parkouring to keep one step ahead of monsters, in white mana because she had one of those "I swear if you let me survive this I'll be a better person!" moment
>>
>>97581938
>going through the first 2-3 turns playing nothing but lands
Eat your vegetables. Draft 1-drops
>>
>>97581984
>Draft
sealed
>>
File: IMG_1168.jpg (184 KB, 672x936)
184 KB
184 KB JPG
>>97581130
UB should’ve stayed silver-bordered. A fun little novelty rather than the main sets of the game.
>>
This set is going to be a disaster. I play at one of the biggest stores at the DFW area, and they're generally almost sold out of prerelease spots at this point. They have 5 prereleases with 100 slots each. The most preordered slot has 35 reservations. The least preordered one has 7. T
>>
File: gggg.png (40 KB, 672x321)
40 KB
40 KB PNG
>the whole FNM tournament scene is fake
>/mtg/ doesn't even care
>>
>>97582137
>>/mtg/ doesn't even care
sanctioned play has always been for faggots
yes even when the game was good
>>
I think UB is going to crater pretty hard if they don't do more weebshit like Final Fantasy or weeb adjacent shit like Avatar. I haven't heard anybody outside of the reddit echo chamber say anything positive about TMNT, Marvel or Star Trek.
>>
File: IMG_6839.jpg (352 KB, 1280x960)
352 KB
352 KB JPG
Maro is a man with no principles, no talent, and no dick. A corporate pig happy to shit down the trough to the other pigs for some extra slop. Both a slave and a slave master. What a pathetic little man.
>>
They didn't even use the hot, and iconic, April design
>>
>>97582156
What is both thematically appropriate, already open to crossovers, and also of a high enough quality? For example, Rising of the Shield Hero fulfills the first two of those.
>>
>>97582195
Please clap for the Nier Automata UB
>>
>>97581790
We literally had
>magic, but the pyramids!
>magic, but it’s Athens!
>magic, but it’s Mexico!
>magic, but it’s India!
>magic, but it’s the American west!
>magic, but it’s Tokyo!

If you give a fuck about skyscrapers and NYC after all this I don’t know what to tell you.

Everyone wants to whine that it feels like Fortnite, but the elephant in the room is most everyone loves super smash brothers. Crossovers are successful and the writers stopped giving a shit sometime before innistrad.

It’s all so tiresome.
>>
>>97582223
True. I still play magic but moved onto sorcery to play a more authentic fantasy game. Both have their place now
>>
File: HBeDxYcWQAEE_U9.jpg (153 KB, 672x938)
153 KB
153 KB JPG
This will get infiniete anime picture proxies
>>
>>97582248
Why?
>>
>>97582271
The name
>>
File: negate.jpg (105 KB, 744x1039)
105 KB
105 KB JPG
Wassup my negator
>>
>>97582282
oh she's so sassy
>>
>>97582273
Was it Nikke or Girls Frontline where the players were angry that one of the waifus cucked them by stepping on a dude that wasn't their player avatar?
>>
>>97582307
Brown Dust 2
>>
Why couldn't this just be a beast?
>>
File: 01.gif (111 KB, 220x164)
111 KB
111 KB GIF
>>97581117
Making the BLUE twink planeswalker as edgy was a mistake...
>>
File: endless_foot_assault.png (1.97 MB, 2010x2814)
1.97 MB
1.97 MB PNG
>>97582248
Needs to be more subtle.
>>
File: 1768195133702917.jpg (51 KB, 580x450)
51 KB
51 KB JPG
>>97582350
Wasn't this the same set that cut Viashino?
>>
File: IMG_6840.jpg (140 KB, 718x995)
140 KB
140 KB JPG
>>97582223
Yes but those were still fantasy or fantasy adjacent. Except new Kamigawa that was just pure fucking shit. I’ll take hats magic over literally Slough UK any day of the week.
>>
>>97582382
Or wherever the fuck the American office was.
>>
File: new-capenna-planes.jpg (562 KB, 2000x1000)
562 KB
562 KB JPG
>>97581751
>therefore 70s New York is fine

1920s New York, thank you.
>>
File: Mystic_Mountain_Range.png (223 KB, 375x523)
223 KB
223 KB PNG
better or worse to play with than double face?
>>
>>97582429
>tap the mountain range
>it turns into an instant on the battlefield and is put into the graveyard
>>
How's Lorwyn Eclipsed for drafting? Haven't played draft since I think Khans block but I love Lorwyn so was thinking about giving it a go. Some of the niches seem a little gimped, not a ton of good ramp for all the haymakers.
>>
Not a single UB is fine and if you cant cope with this then you are part of the problem (aka a PIG)
>>
>>97582651
UB isn't going anywhere. The final stage of grief is acceptance.
>>
>>97582429
You can actually use this without having to buy another pack of dark coloured sleeves
>>
>>97581893
Innistrad was beloved the moment it was revealed
>>
i hate cardboard cards, they just feel wrong in my hands

is there anyone who makes plastic MTG proxies?
>>
>>97582195
warhammer?
Castlevania?
Devil May Cry maybe
>>
>>97582195
Redo the Healer
>>
>>97582820
I mean 40k got one I can see Fantasy getting one or a revisit to 40k as a full set. Castlevania... Hm. It could definitely support a smaller set. I don't think it has enough for a full set because the issue with Castlevania is it retreads a lot of the same ground every game with a couple exceptions.
DMC feels too narrow in scope to support more than a smaller set or a Secret Lair.
>>
File: w9s230xk4wm41.png (3.82 MB, 1624x1666)
3.82 MB
3.82 MB PNG
>>97582195
wonder if a 2000AD or just Judge Dredd set could work
Dredd is so kitchen sink, you can add anything from Demons, aliens, trans dimenshinal gods, superheroes, Fat Poeple the list goes on
>>
>>97582856
Dredd is weird because it's a known IP but people know literally nothing about it except for Dredd himself.
>>
>>97581938
Lorwyn Eclipsed limited is super synergy and tribal focused. I've noticed that in sealed it's hard to properly tech into any particular tribe/strategy, so the games end up being grindy slogfests where breaking through and winning through card advantage are both very difficult.

Draft is much better, and I'm glad they tried something different this time rather than the constant "ten two colors pairs and signpost uncommons for the obvious limited archetypes". I hope this foray into something new means we get more l=novel limited environments in the future.
>>
>>97582861
Couldn't you say the same for Spider-Man or TNMT though?
>>
>>97582869
People know the core cast of those at least, and the main villains and whatnot. Nobody knows ANYTHING about Dredd except Dredd.
>>
>>97582864
Tribal sets are fundamentally pretty bad for Limited; it's just nice to be back in Lorwyn.
does prove that 5-deck formats where only like 3.5 of the decks are good can work as long as the gameplay is strong enough though. Strixhaven was a great example of that. Super underrated limited environment.
>>
>>97581032

This will not end until everyone who buys UB slop is lynched.
>>
>>97582856
>wonder if a 2000AD or just Judge Dredd set could work

No. Too small. Plus, literally anything that isn't fantasy genre should be banned just for not being fantasy.

You need a HUGE world to actually function as a Magic set and not look stupid. LotR barely, just barely made it. Final Fantasy worked because that was literally like 30 massive games squeezed into one set. Dredd, if it wasn't banned for being scifi, could be a commander deck at best. A single one.
>>
>>97582978

what is with you kkkfags and hating everything? can you conform over there?
>>
I am so exited to play my new commander!
>>
>>97583001
If you don't hate UB you are the enemy of all good people. It's that simple.
>>
Turtles will bomb just like Spiderman bombed.
WotC is already going to walk back this Superhero crap, these sets were already in the works unfortunately.
>>
>>97583028
we can only hope
>>
>>97582689

Refuse to play with anyone who uses UB cards and they will become their own shitty ghetto.
>>
can I get some rules of thumb for lorwyn draft?

ATLA was piss easy, just hunt white and fliers and win
>>
>>97583028
TMNT will do fine. It won't do Avatar-levels, but it'll do respectably well enough. It seems better-made than SPM was at least.
>>
File: sorc.png (1.43 MB, 1200x630)
1.43 MB
1.43 MB PNG
Come home white man
MTG will never return to what you remember it to be.
>>
>>97583035
no need to hope. WotC/Hasbro pays attention to their bottom line.
the fantasy sets being massive successes while the superhero sets bomb worse than anything sends a clear message right where it hurts them most.
it was dumb greed to queue up so many of these so far in advance. I expect fewer UB sets in general going forward but they're stuck following through with what they've announced 1-2 years ago.

>>97583053
find which lane is open for one of the few good tribes asap and just take all the good creatures of that type (hope it's Elves). chillest set to draft ever.
>>
>>97583053
elves > fishguys >>>>>>> everything else
>>
>>97582195
The Legend of Zelda
>>
>>97582429
That's ugly as shit and visually confusing, but I think I'd still rather play with that than DFC's just because constantly pulling them out of sleeves and putting them in makes me nervous that I'm damaging the card.
>>
>>97583063
i dont have a local scene. well, i do have a local scene actually, its just that the 2 lgs's refuse to cater to them and make free money and everyone has to carpool an hour away for events. if they sold it here though i wouldnt have a second thought, i was thinking about it last night when i found out it has cards named crusade and jihad to spite wotc
>>
>>97583053
The vivid deck is fun to draft and everybody's so obsessed with elves and kithkin that you can usually get everything you need
>>
>>97583063
Too late. Old border cube is where I make my stand.
>>
Which plane is the comfy one? It's Kaladesh, right?
>>
I WANT THIS SO BAD
https://www.ebay.com/itm/336438718126
>>
>>9758322
I'd buy the shit out of Slivers where you could swap their parts or upgrade them
>>
how would you implement positional mechanics into MTG?
>>
>>97583246
You don't.
>>
File: file.png (926 KB, 672x936)
926 KB
926 KB PNG
>>97583246
>>
>>97583246
add entirely set mechanics with its own rules that force players to keep track of board states not usually required and with unique and niche interactions? sounds horrible
(space beleren)
>>
>>97583260
heh
>>
>>97583261
>the new mechanic is forcing me to consider things I didn't need to consider previously and I don't like it!
...what exactly do you think new mechanics should do?
>>
>>97583293
Things like Day/Night and Dungeons are objectively shit
>>
>>97583307
>Modern JOTC has shit the bed every single time they try to add a new mechanic, this means it is impossible to add a good new mechanic into the game!
>>
>>97583319
It's impossible for modern WotC to add good new mechanics to the game, yes
>>
>>97583331
I didn't ask "how would [JOTC] implement positional mechanics into MTG?"
>>
>>97583331
on that we agree
>>
File: SpaceDivision.jpg (705 KB, 1490x1040)
705 KB
705 KB JPG
>>97583368
Theros Beyond Death was supposed to have Stygian a mechanic that would divide the field.
>>
>>97583246
I want to mention I've always thought this was a cool design space and I like it when other games do it. I personally call it "adjacency matters".

How would I implement it in Magic? I would implement it in Magic Arena, and not really give a heck about how it impacts paper play. Maybe have it as an Alchemy mechanic.
>>
>>97581032
>TQ
The problem is they keep printing way too many enablers at one or two mana that give you tons of payoffs just for casting "noncreature spells." It's like they saw how beloved prowess was in testing and in the community and just assumed it was a good compromise between people that wanna play storm and people that wanna play a fun Magic game.

The solutions are to either make more taxing effects or to give people more enablers that get stronger or cheaper for playing more creatures. Only two creatures for the latter exist in standard at two mana, one is Jackal which sees a little bit of play but not a ton since it's so restrictive and the other was a summon that didn't see much play outside Final Fantasy standard. Technically, the correct decision is to stop printing cards that are either wannabe Kiln Fiends, wannabe Goblin Electromancers or wannabe Bedlam Reveler, but WotC don't seem like they'll budge on that.

>>97581938
I've found the set to be really fun if you don't focus too much on the obvious tribal synergies. It's too bad the tribal synergies at their best are so much stronger than the non-tribal archetypes.
>>
>>97583246
all positional mechanics can be translated into grouping mechanics
>>
File: WHERES THE FUCKING DATA.jpg (188 KB, 1787x593)
188 KB
188 KB JPG
>puzzle status: flourishing
thank you based jotc, glory to greater israel
>>
File: 1758084307678685.jpg (128 KB, 732x633)
128 KB
128 KB JPG
>>97582137
>/mtg/ doesn't even care
Why would I?
a) Already knew about it. It was patently obvious. I don't have to wait for my enemies to reveal info about themselves to know what they're up to.
b) The game is total shit and nothing that happens within it matters, except if it's worthy of being laughed at.
>>
>>97582359
>I instantly recognize those silhouettes.
Very kino.
>>
>>97582137
I've been playing magic since 2017, I've never played a single paper game, I started on arena then I moved to MTGO, I don't even know what a FNM is
>>
>>97582137
This just in, jews lie, more at noon
>>
>>97582402
new capenna is probably the worst original plane they've ever done, closely followed by thunder junction
>>
>>97583038
nobody plays 60 card anyway and the hogs vastly outnumber the humans in cuckmander
>>
>>97583477
Look at how diverse that is ! Perfect balance!
>>
>>97582137
All of WotC's numbers are bullshit. Everything that isn't outright faked is based on laughably bad data. Fucking cold call telephone polls in 202X, fucking lmao.
>>
It so weird how at least where I live I see product quickly being bought up but not many people showing up to actually play

Like MtG the product is supercharged but MtG the game is dead
>>
>>97583659
No, the game has been in a death spiral for about 6-7 years, scalpers are the only ones buying product.
>>
>>97583659
scalpers, all physical card games are infested with scalpers. wotc has no incentive to stop them because scalpers existing guarantees that all product will sell
nobody will use it because people aren't going to pay 2-3x msrp to play with obvious slop, but wotc doesn't care about that
>>
File: 1757827576430688.jpg (32 KB, 540x303)
32 KB
32 KB JPG
>Modern is so fucked up that Burn is 0.3% of the meta
>>
>>97583698
Soul Sisters is Tier 0, how is Burn supposed to function in that meta?
>>
Wheres my 2014 Toyota Corolla card Wizards?
>>
>>97583432
The other part is blue is obligatory for every deck now because creatures come down turn 3 that will win the game if they resolve
>>
>>97583733
I'd prefer a Mitsubishi Pajero
>>
>>97583698
the goggles, they do nothing
>>
File: burnoko.jpg (87 KB, 905x729)
87 KB
87 KB JPG
>>97583698
the obvious solution is to unban oko
>>
>>97583733
At this point i see a "Whopper" card ridiculously close.
>>
>>97583432
>The problem is WotC keeps printing overloaded creatures for prowess
>So therefore they need to start printing overloaded creatures for all-creature decks
This is unironically how we get Hearthstone where spot removal becomes so bad that all the "removal" is a creature that fights on EtB and has other effects on top of that.
>>
File: Commander is Magic.png (1.13 MB, 1610x1014)
1.13 MB
1.13 MB PNG
>>
>>97583894
>Magic has gotten so big, right?
It is CONSIDERABLY smaller than it was in the 90s and 2000s. Back during MTG's golden age it was a legitimate juggernaut and cornerstone a cornerstone of gaming culture.
Nowadays it's just that cringe game content creators play to bait parasocial donations.
>>
>>97583659
Where I live they get 8-16 people for sealed every Friday and about 8-12 people for standard that same Friday. They also usually sell out prelease 3 or 4 times at 100+ seats per prerelease. It's not as dead as made out to be in these threads.
>>
File: 1712676596830270.jpg (122 KB, 1100x1007)
122 KB
122 KB JPG
>>97583777
>every single card in this picture is now unplayable in Modern Horizons block constructed
>>
File: pig is eating.jpg (24 KB, 387x288)
24 KB
24 KB JPG
>>97583894
>magic is bigger than ever!
>oh no 1v1/60 card is totally dead
>BUT
>everyone plays cuckmander don't you love the wacky hijinks of cuckmander?
>>
>>97583931
bolt and bauble are still good
I wish I didn't sold my baubles on mtgo when they spiked, I would be playing a lot of kappa affinity right now
>>
>>97581939
100% that should've been the approach: random creatures and characters from all over having to survive. The whole 80s people thing was just bad Stranger Things pandering
>>
>>97583913
That sounds more like it managed to dominate the world of little kid you, but now that you're somewhat adult your horizons have widened a fair bit.
>>
>>97583931
>Tarmogoyf is now a $5 card
Lmao.
>>
File: Janny are you ok.png (280 KB, 1024x768)
280 KB
280 KB PNG
>>97584003
>bought it at the peak price
>quit magic after Oko
>come back
>Tarmos worth 1% of what i paid for them
/biz/ness is /biz/ness
>>
>>97583894
>You want to play magic this weekend?
>No, let's play commander.
Fixed
>>
>>97584033
Cope.
>>
>>97583894
>Cummander
>Magic
When will faggots like this blue-haired maggot learn the difference? Also Big? Maybe in Nebraska
>>
>>97582195
Naruto would work perfectly. I don’t know if there’s already a Naruto card game or if the author would even want to do it, though.
>>
Next year
>legends of mercadia
>modern horizons 3
>x-men mini set
>kaldheim 2
>elden ring
>muraganda
>ikoria / kamigawa set

>Ikoria/kamigawa set will feature more Japanese Godzilla cards. Most ikoria mechanics will not return except for in commander products . (Company wants set to be marketable after it sold well but was too complicated) .
>Climax is valgavoth teaming up with Nicol bolas.
>set mechanics include more spacecrafts, vehicles, huge creatures and planeswalkers. Lots of proliferate abilities
>gundam secret lair with amaro and char mechanically unique cards
>gundam wing secret lair (only mecha)
>american “monsterverse” secret lair

>muraganda’s focus is making vanilla creatures useful for commander. Also artifacts, landfall, shrines and a new land super-type
>re-sparked planeswalker characters are looking for a lost artifact to stop valgavoth lead by quintorous

>Elden ring is expected to be their best selling set of all time (there will be dark souls and duskbloods secret lair, no bloodborne)
>I don’t have much more info on this set because it is very much under wraps with a lot of outsourcing

>kaldheim 2 story is set to be fighting duskmourn, to elaborate on the “heavy metal” image of the plane.
>Game of thrones secret lair around this time, as well as a slayer (band) secret lair

>x-men set is expected to do poorly after spiderman reception, there’s still time to shelf it but it is still expected to be printed

>modern horizons 3 will have atogs, legendary snow lands, innistrad characters and beebles. The focus is making old mechanics more useful
>legends of mercadia is a typal focused set with goblins, merfolk, mercenaries, beasts and horrors.

>some secret lairs next year will include seperate alien and predator drops, another Warhammer 40k drop, another Warhammer fantasy drop, a final fantasy drop, a chrono trigger drop, an akira toriyama + dragonball drop, a Guillermo del Toro drop and a Wendy’s drop (yes really)
>>
>>97584062
Again, more cope.
>>
>>97584093
>>modern horizons 3
nigga...
>>
>>97584093
>muraganda’s focus is making vanilla creatures useful for commander.
this is so fucking stupid I expect it to be real
>>
>>97584089
Once you whore out to anime franchises, there is no going back.
>>
>>97584089
>Naruto would work perfectly
>no more tarmogoyf, just Naruto tribal now
Fuck off.
>>
>>97584093
How would you do a "vanilla matters" set anyways?
>>
>>97584093
>modern horizons 3
>legends of mercadia
>only two UB sets
lol
>>
>>97584124
They’ve already done that with Final Fantasy and Avatar, so I don’t see what your point is.
>>
>>97584093
Field too long
>mercadian 2
>wizards knows the online community is getting fed up, so they’re trying to see if a set with a more intricate, higher power level set will bring back good will
>around this time the will say secret lairs are turning to “print to demand”
>set is used to push the story forward with valgavoth trying to free bolas to do his bidding
>a lot of spokespeople for magic will make videos around this time apologizing to bring back good will, hoping the story beats and classic plans will improve goodwill for the company
>there will be a legend of Zelda:majora’s mask secret lair (wizards wanted the rights to a whole set but Nintendo only wants to dip its toes in to test the waters first)
>>
File: Eo2Z6EyU0AAJ-Yf.jpg (40 KB, 722x349)
40 KB
40 KB JPG
>>97584093
>>
>>97584127
>Enchantment - if creature has no abilities or keywords, add keywords and abilities
Lol. Lmao.
>>
play

premodern
>>
>>97584127
Textbox exchanges and effects that dodge/buff vanilla creatures
>>
>>97584136
You'll understand once the spics hordes come for the Dragonball set
>>
>>97584126
Naruto is literally Kamigawa with less technology. It’s more Magic than half the Magic sets now.
>>
>>97584141
That’s all I’ve got guys. I can’t say much else without fucking over my job
>>
If you think things are dire now, imagine when wotc will decide to print mini sets between expansions to "shake up the meta"
>>
>>97584157
Zero chance of it happening, Bandai is a major competitor to WotC
>>
>>97583246
"World Enchantment.
Stance — When ~ enters player may choose to play with their lands in front of their creatures. If they do, their creatures cannot attack or block if they started their turn this way and all their permanent spells have convoke. Each player may change their stance as a Sorcery and only once in a turn."
Long winded explanation, but I think it's easy to see in the board state.
>>
>>97584165
Hints at what other UB horrors are on the horizon?
>>
>>97584093
Huh?
Modern Horizons 3 was released in June 14, 2024.
>>
>>97584172
Money money money
>>
>>97584181
Anon is talking the piss with super duper sikreet leeks
>>
>>97584178
Scary clowns, ack ack ack, Japanese superhero, finish him, robots at school, computer dinosaurs, anime food, hot topic alien and robot
>>
>>97584181
It was an honest mistake sorry guys. It IS modern horizons 4
>>
>>97584093
My rabbi works at WotC
>>
>>97584181
no no that didnt count
this time they will release it for real
>>
How long can MTG endure SEVEN sets per year until Wotc will be forced to ban somthing every week?
>>
File: CCG_front.jpg (460 KB, 761x1065)
460 KB
460 KB JPG
>>97584160
That's right boys. We're going back to CLASSIC magic with our guy Naruto.

Goblin guide? Gay af. Naruto? New hotness.
>>
>>97584093
I hate that this all feels extremely real. Even the modern horizons fuck up while knowing the story is way too demoralizing
>>
>>97583002
>shadman
>>
File: IMG_3541.jpg (202 KB, 1170x1177)
202 KB
202 KB JPG
>>97584093
>>97584141
>>
>>97583923
Name the LGS, anon. Surely we can ascertain that statement by checking the LGS' social media, since it's so successful and all.
>>
>>97584212
A HUMAN? In MY card game? Unthinkable.
>>
>>97583246
it's called being tapped or untapped
>>
>>97584181
Modern Horizons 3 2
>>
>>97584181
>>97584204
Real Modern Horizons has never been tried
>>
I reinstalled Arena for God knows what reason.
And instead of crafting some degen red deck i decided to check "Starter Deck Duel"
I have to say, this is Peak magic, nothing tops this degen kitchen deck?
Any of you guys remember your first deck?
Mine was UW something Islandwalk with Vizzerdrix and Irridescent angel.
>>
>>97584181
what we got was the redacted version of modern horizons 3, they'll release the full version this time around
>>
File: 21312152125.jpg (473 KB, 1920x1080)
473 KB
473 KB JPG
Forgot my pick, just look at this pile its perfect
>>
>>97584229
I too, love Naruto. He's literally me. Heckin' badass, never gives up and always gets stronger. I'm a nice guy but when I see red, nobody can stop me.
>>
>>97584228
Common Ground Games in Dallas.
>>
File: MOM AFTERMATH.jpg (101 KB, 834x393)
101 KB
101 KB JPG
>>97584168
>imagine when wotc will decide to print mini sets between expansions to "shake up the meta"
hello newfriend
>>
>>97584141
>wizards doing an apology years later and its scheduled at the same time as Zelda, so their apology makes them money and looks good to investors

Jesus Christ it’s real
>>
>>97584241
My original decks were just variations with stuff I found from packs of the old "starter" or "tournament" decks whatever they were called, though the deck I liked the most was my arch-bound artifact deck, just shitting out artifacts that moved their counters on other artifacts, it wasn't anything as advanced as hardened scales obviously.
>>
>>97584258
Dang anon, you sound just like Chandra.
>>
>>97584241
mine was tree of perdition with diminish and pingers like cryptolith fragment or pulse tracker
I also ran undying evil all the way back then
>>
>>97584141
>around this time the will say secret lairs are turning to “print to demand”
I believed you up until this point. Print to demand is a retarded idea. It takes 6 months and causes enormous issues with orders. I am excited for the secret lairs you mentioned even the Wendy's one. Go ahead and oink idgaf I want my sloppa
>>
cowabunga
>>
>>97584113
>>97584127

The idea is to make high power level effects for vanilla creatures in only single colors. There was a commander tested named ruxa that did something similar. Some creatures will have abilities but be considered vanilla (think devoid)

There was a lot of fighting in-house about it because many people think a product with vanilla cards would not sell, so they’ll all have a unique art frame too. Maro himself actually really fought for this set.

>>97584308
Investors are fighting against the FOMO strategy because the way they’re doing secret lairs leaves too much unsold product, wizards has thrown countless drops into landfills and they’re not selling as well as you might think (bad choices of cards, monster hunter debacle, etc). In some cases there was a net loss. Ghostbusters and avatar were particularly bad looking

They want to please investors so they’re going back. However the print to demand cycle will likely only last half a day this time.
>>
They should make an Aqua Teen set.
>>
>>97584286
Planeswalkers were always gay. But got extra gay as they progressed.
>>
>>97584191
>it return to derry
>mars attacks
>ultraman?? Maybe?
>mortal kombat
>don’t know
>don’t know
>dungeon meshi
>invader zim

What are the others?
>>
Hear me out, Bleach X Teletubbies.
>>
>>97584338
Just like you. You really are the real life Chandra.
>>
>>97584348
Robots at school has to be evangelion or medarot
>>
>>97584191
GOP party
Trans lifes matter
Chainsawman
Angela White
idk
Turok
Ramen
Alien vs Robocop
>>
Im making a trip to tcg player, anyone want anything.
>>
>>97584333
>Investors are fighting against the FOMO strategy because the way they’re doing secret lairs leaves too much unsold product
I'm not convinced but the avatar SLD was up for ages unsold. A lot of it looked like shit desu. Time will tell.

I'll bite. Are they going to do anything involving Adventure time?
>>
>>97584348
Superhero one is probably My Hero. Computer Dinosaurs is probably just Transformers again
>>
>>97584370
I'm Maro's life partner.
>>
>>97584379
Ya can you get me some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
>>
>>97584379
I’ll take a big titty alter of The Wandering Emperor and an Eleah Norn fleshlight. Thanks, anon.
>>
>>97584381
I don’t know about that one particularly, as Warner brothers is in some rocky waters at the moment. The WB godzilla stuff is happening because they mostly handle the distribution and not the character rights.
>>
>>97584263
Dallas, Nebraska?
>>
>>97584425
Dallas, Oregon
>>
Oregon, Ohio.
>>
>>97584425
Dallas, Salad.
>>
File: tmt-5-east-wind-avatar.jpg (111 KB, 672x936)
111 KB
111 KB JPG
>>
>>97584444
>>
Will the Power Rangers in Space be in this set
>>
>>97584482
No, they’re the bonus sheet in the Star Trek set.
>>
>>97584403
did that anon ever deliver?
>>
>>97584263
>LGBTQIA+ meeting up every month
Ok, I believe the LGS filled the seats with all the trannies. Good for you.
>>
>>97584509
Every game store that you go to is going to have queers and trannies. Magic. Dungeons and Dragons, Pokemon and all the hobbies you used to enjoy when you were younger are now full of them.
>>
>>97584521
The autist nerd to tranny pipeline psyop is real.
>>
Is it even possible to think of a more boring mechanic than Alliance?
>>
>>97584555
Megamorph
>>
Magic has no aura.
>>
>>97584568
It actually has hundreds of them.
>>
>>97584555
anything universes within
>>
>>97584579
>hundreds
Dozens, at least.
>>
File: roe-54-aura-finesse.jpg (178 KB, 672x936)
178 KB
178 KB JPG
>>97584568
>>
File: Auras.png (18 KB, 373x66)
18 KB
18 KB PNG
>>97584579
>>97584593
>>
>>97582282
>Niggate
Lmao JOTC
>>
>>97584611
Negate.
>>
>>97584620
Ayo whyboi dat spell don’t do nuffin now furreal sheeeeiitt
>>
So why aren't you playing premodern yet? Even the prof made a video on it now.
inb4 cards are too expensive
>>
>>97584647
What's the point of that when i can just play clasisc modern GBx vs Twin matches?
>>
>>97584647
Because it’s not a supported format and nobody is actually running events for it.
>>
So why aren't you playing pauper yet? Even the prof made a video on it now.
inb4 cards are too expensive
>>
>>97584647
I sold all my paper cards shortly after ZEN. Not played since.
>>
>>97584647
Because everyone who could play those sets already did and are now settled down with families and don’t play anymore, or are the sweatiest whales who travel the US to RC’s to play it like a dying junkie refusing to accept that 2003 is over. Wiser players have already retreated to their cubes.
>>
>>97583761
Yeah, like I said probably last thread, we might end up at a point where we either need nonblue counter spells or powercrept/nonblack hand attack (not better Thoughtseize, but more Despise + draw a card). The fact that Intimidation Tactics sees main board play outside bo1 suggests that might be where the game goes.

>>97583811
That's probably true, and of course the correct decision is to have neither, but we know WotC won't do that.
>>
>>97584521
We don't have any here
>>
>>97584647
the playpatterns look miserable
>>
>>97584568
>>
>>97584647
Fuck off you goddamn fucking shill
>>
>>97584702
Bring back Thoughtseize and Mana Tithe
>>
>>97584453
Pwetty
>>
>>97584731
Your mom’s basement doesn’t count as a game store, anon.
>>
>>97584773
Ok tranny
>>
File: 1312432453.jpg (106 KB, 400x345)
106 KB
106 KB JPG
>>97584756
>>
>>97584768
honestly could fit right in any MtG set
>>
>>97584795
We know exactly what it means and you are one.
Gaslighting doesn't work anymore, shill.
>>
>>97584807
You don't, you really really don't.
>>
Would you hate TMNT less if there had been actual effort put into it and it wasn't just a cheap cash grab?
>>
>>97584821
>Gaslighting doesn't work anymore, shill.
Read the words.
>>
>>97584823
No. Inherently having Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in mtg is gay as fuck. Really same with all this shit.
>>
>>97584824
Stop gaslighting and open a dictionary.
>>
>>97584845
>Stop gaslighting and open a dictionary.

>A person paid to endorse a product favourably, while pretending to be impartial.
Yes. That is (you) anon.
>>
File: 1766686493193425.png (536 KB, 750x1046)
536 KB
536 KB PNG
I'm showing some custom cards to others and I'm finding that this card is a huge litmus test for revealing people that only play Commander/Arena because they don't realize it makes itself immediately fall off.
>>
>>97584823
Not really. Magic should be about Magic characters and Magic settings. Final Fantasy and Avatar were both great limited environments, but that doesn't change that they should have been about Magic characters instead of other IPs.
>>
>>97584873
>I'm showing some custom cards to others and I'm finding that this card is a huge litmus test for revealing people that only play Commander/Arena because they don't realize it makes itself immediately fall off.

>"I made something retarded and some people think I'm retarded for making it."
That's just you being retarded, anon.
>>
File: 2132134324.jpg (11 KB, 138x234)
11 KB
11 KB JPG
>>97584856
>while pretending to be impartial
Are you fucking stupid then? I play Premodern. I like premodern. I am not impartial. I want more people to play premodern.
>>
File: namibian_drive_by.gif (930 KB, 270x270)
930 KB
930 KB GIF
>>97584903
Whatever you say, shill.
>>
>>97584882
>Put one silly card in the batch after making a bunch of serious cards
>"Anon you're retarded."
You have no joy in your life. Although I can understand this perspective because Mark Rosewater's idea of a silly card is rotating Legacy with a mechanic nobody asked for.
>>
>>97584647
Cards are too old-man for me. I started playing this game in 2015. I don't have nostalgia for the pre-modern card pool. I'd rather play a different TCG then play grandpa-Magic.
>>
>>97584926
>one silly card
Shit card, anon.
SHIT.
>>
>>97584647
having a pool of cards that never changes and never has anything added to it is dumb and leads to stagnant gameplay
>>
>>97584952
If the baseline game is fun there's no need for unnecessary change.
>>
File: 1722022288672764.jpg (4 KB, 250x250)
4 KB
4 KB JPG
>>97584873
You can use this to wash away harmful auras. Kinda cool
>>
>>97584882
Fun things are fun, anon. Chill.
>>
>>97584952
Tell that to the boomers playing Poker
>>
>>97584994
Hello son, what is it you wanted to tell me?
>>
>>97584994
In time you'll realize why that sentence is fucking retarded. It may take a while, but you'll get there.
>>
File: 1759947648162061.jpg (1.29 MB, 4961x3508)
1.29 MB
1.29 MB JPG
>>97584042
>>97584103
PIGGY OINK OOOOOOOOOOOINK
>>
>>97585013
Concession accepted!
>>
>>97584647
I have my EDH old bordered cube with over 6000+ cards.
>>
File: paria.jpg (262 KB, 668x928)
262 KB
262 KB JPG
Hearts > EDH
If you want to socialize in a square. Don't make me read, or wait through combos.
>>
>>97585043
This is porn, isn't it?
>>
>>97585067
>This is porn, isn't it?
Image moments before Relentless Foot Assault
>>
MTG got a lot more enjoyable after I admitted to myself that I don't care about keeping an eye on the meta and I really just like looking at pretty pictures.

What's your favorite set for art direction?
>>
>>97585077
>What's your favorite set for art direction?
Prophecy.
>>
>>97582195
Dead by Daylight
>>
>>97585082
>High enough quality
More like quality low enough to equal MtG
>>
>>97585077
Morningntide
>>
File: Untitled.jpg (159 KB, 485x677)
159 KB
159 KB JPG
>>97585067
Just the red head wotc sacrificed to the gods of ugliness. Notice how no one has asked for any boob edits of turtle cards?
>>
>>97584952
This. Board games SUCK
>>
>>97582248
Just have to bring up just how fucking overwhelmingly power crept this thing is.
>>
how can we stop EDH from swallowing Magic?
>>
>>97585178
The designers would need to develop integrity.
>>
>>97585178
Too late. It’s already stage 2 of Funkofication of Magic
>>
>>97585178
Stop making EDH decks for every set, stop printing 50 legendary creatures per set, stop printing cards designed for EDH into standard sets. Bring back rewards programs for playing in limited/standard events. There's tons of ways to do it, Wizards just doesn't care because Commander players are the ones that buy up all of their slop.
>>
File: Untitled.jpg (490 KB, 1338x936)
490 KB
490 KB JPG
>>97585167
Skrelv's hive didn't really see play when it was legal. I don't think haste is stronger than toxic.
>>
>>97583894
He's honestly so right about it being nerd golf in that grown men obsess over being competitive over it when they will never achieve anything with it, and having friendly casual matches as well as sweaty competitive games with regular opponents that go where you go
>>
>>97585178
follow the steps of the premodern folks, make your own format and support it as best as you can
>>
>>97585178
Premodern is the last bastion of true MTG. Nothing in this game remains without the stain of casuals and EDH. NOTHING.
>>
>>97585178
stop printing so many fucking legends, 10 total legends MAXIMUM for each set
stop making commander precons every set
stop printing cards that refer to "each opponent" and scale with multiple opponents
>>
>>97585252
Thats a problem with UB not edh

> b..but edh IS ub!!
Not anymore chud
>>
>>97585178
by killing all the commander hogs. they buy anything and everything put in their trough, so wotc is encouraged to cater to them to the exclusion of everyone else because nobody else wastes as much money on magic as the commander hogs
>I NEED my heckin wholesome chungus secret lair alternate art for 500 bucks to show off to my pod!
>>
File: 1771433737739296.jpg (1.02 MB, 1816x2960)
1.02 MB
1.02 MB JPG
>>97584647
I'm trying, but you fags refuse to rate my deck!
>>
>>97585178
Premodern.
Unironically.
>>
>>97585281
Merfolk lists are just meme decks. You're wasting your time with a tier-3 deck, dude. What's the point?
>>
>>97582248
I really wish they had given this a more generic name so it could get UW reprints, it's a pretty fun design.
>>
Why did they make Premodern end at sets released in 2003 instead of just making the card pool stop before Universes Beyond
>>
>>97582350
Because it isn't wacky enough.
BTW we don't need cephalids Magic races don't matter :)
>>
>>97585252
Where will be the count by the end of 2026 I wonder LMAO.
>>
>>97585281
it's shit
>>
>>97585288
Its not merfolk tho
>>
File: Salida.jpg (2.86 MB, 4374x2975)
2.86 MB
2.86 MB JPG
>>97583246
Ok, I have no idea of what I am doing, but its an interesting design space.
>>97584873
Elegant design.
>>
>>97584873
I think if a friend was "testing" me, I'd stop talking to that friend.
>>
>>97585178
You're a decade too late
>>
>>97585319
How does that deck even win?
>>
>>97585252
>stop making commander precons every set
we just had a two set break for them
I think the better change would be printing them separately from set releases at a fixed interval
>>
>>97585322
So if I'm understanding your intent with "stance," everyone chooses whether to enter the offered "stance" when the card enters, and again as a sorcery on their turn, or exit said stance? Essentially opt-in Enchant Worlds. Can a player hold multiple "stances," for example in the situation that it ceases to be a World Enchantment and both of these permanents are on the battlefield at the same time?

>>97585342
That's weird.
>>
>>97585431
Yes you understnd right. The exit is not explained properly but exiting a stance should revert all changes (there's no room in the card). I made them world enchantments so there could be only one active optional stance at a time. There's no way to freely design stances and avoid clashing with each other.
>>
>>97585281
I think your deck is pretty cool anon. I am not sure how good it is though, because I have never played premodern on accounts of my social circle not containing any brazilians.
>>
>>97585281
Your creatures etb effects aren't strong enough.
You'll be raped by goblins, Madness or even moneyball black and your late game sucks.
My suggestions:

+4 lands
+4 Accumulated Knowledge
+4 Vodalian Merchant
+4 Curfew
+2 Chain of Vapor
+2 Memory Lapse
+2 Waterspout Elemental
+1 Stormscape Battlemage
+1 Phyrexian Furnace
+1 Scrivener
+ Mind Games
+1 Clone
+1 Black Vise


-4 Floddgate (just a shit card)
-4 Stern Proctor
-4 Shrieking Drake
-2 Impulse
-1 Merchant of Secrets
-1 Deep Anaysis
-3 Man-o-War
-3 Tangle Wire
>>
File: HBig_7PXAAAsrBh.jpg (107 KB, 744x1039)
107 KB
107 KB JPG
Presenting your new Pauper staple. Say something nice about him
>>
I need this updated, where's the anon.
>>
>>97585762
-1 spooderman + 1 leonardo in my WW deck
>>
>>97585762
I wont play this card in my WW deck the same way I refuse to play Skyward Spooder in my W Heroics deck.
>>
File: spm-4-city-pigeon.jpg (127 KB, 672x936)
127 KB
127 KB JPG
>>97585762
Kind of nutty honestly
Ive been cooking an Azorius birbs deck with some help from a fren
Moon circuit hacker, spiderman, Leo, things with flying
Yup its azorius aggro
>>
>>97585178
Stop? It already has. But the real answer is to print cheap but good precons for 60 card formats
>>
File: EOyDxfyU4AAP4lO.jpg (71 KB, 640x645)
71 KB
71 KB JPG
>>97585873
>cheap but good precons
>>
>>97585899
And that's why Commander will continue to be the premier format for Magic. Because it get precons that are actually fun to play and upgrade
>>
>>97583894
There's all this positivity but there's also completely valid negativity.
>>
>>97583894
Why faggots like this one are the face of this community? This game is fucking doomed considering the opinions that matter come from this kind of subhumans.
>>
>>97585833
They outsoruced card design to China?
>>
>>97585952
Same reason why every mtg eCeleb is balding fat funkopop collecting giant child.
Lets fucking admit it, you are SUPPOSED TO GROW out of MTG. What we are doing is not normal.
Considering how hard wotc shits in my mouth, i am looking at woodworking
>>
>>97584093
>>Climax is valgavoth teaming up with Nicol bolas.
This is where I don't believe you. As if they'll supplant their newest villain with Nicol.
>>
File: yes or no.png (21 KB, 729x86)
21 KB
21 KB PNG
>>
>>97585873
Precons can't be cheap and good while Wizards does not have official MSRPs. You even see this with high-value Commander precons, they can surge to $60-80 while the others in its set might stay at $40. It doesn't help that there are zero provisions against stores opening their own product, so if a massive print wave of a precon with good, high-value reprints is made, over half of the wave could be cracked and split into singles before even touching an LGS shelf.
>>
>>97586038
Yes
But powercreep says no
>>
>>97584153
That would make it stop being vanilla.
It should be written as;
Lifelink Enchantment: Whenever a creature with no abilities deal damage gain that much life.
This also stacks.
>>
>>97586038
Can you stop shilling his youtube channel? He is literally on wotc payroll
>>
>>97586038
Honestly if he really hates the set he shouldnt release any video about it, but we all know he needs that engagement. One of the reasons why being a content creator for a niche as a living is a terrible idea
>>
>>97584141
>wizards knows the online community is getting fed up, so they’re trying to see if a set with a more intricate, higher power level set will bring back good will
People are begging for weaker sets.
>set is used to push the story forward with valgavoth trying to free bolas to do his bidding
Nicol is already free as of Tarkir Dragonstorm.
>>
File: 213251521.jpg (353 KB, 1301x795)
353 KB
353 KB JPG
>>97586056
>Honestly if he really hates the set he shouldnt release any video about it, but we all know he needs that engagement. One of the reasons why being a content creator for a niche as a living is a terrible idea
No matter how hard and/or boring my job is i still consider myself lucky compared to small niche channels.
>>
>>97586056
He does this for a living. He has to.
>>
File: yu48dkgjrikg1.jpg (47 KB, 400x559)
47 KB
47 KB JPG
Remember when guns were verbotten?
>>
>>97586041
If it's so desirable, they can just...print more.
>>
>>97584555
Support
>>
File: PremodernBrazilian.jpg (103 KB, 425x540)
103 KB
103 KB JPG
>>97584647
I'm not Brazilian.
>>
>>97586096
>LIGMAgic
Lol
>>
>>97586076
That's UB. UB is allowed.
>>
>>97586096
flavor text is appropriate, which i assume is intentional
>>
>>97586096
Ok? How does it stop you from playing Premodern?
>>
At the very least TMNT will be another warning sign for scalpers to fuck off. When Mahvel flops it will most likely be the final nail to both scalpers and JotC trying to make all these terrible Universes Beyond ideas happen. A necessary evil given their stubborness.
>>
>>97585959
Because the chinese eat wild animals? That is racist and sexist.
>>
>>97584647
I have a deck still deciding on sideboard then I just need a place to actually play it lol
>>
>>97583477
What am I supposed to be looking at anon I haven't touched Legacy in a few months
>>
>>97586089
Why don't they do the same for Commander?
>>
>>97586089
They don't have their own printing facilities they contract from other facilities. In order to print more Final Fantasy cards they had to cut printing time from other sets.
>>
File: TinyTurtles.png (830 KB, 574x788)
830 KB
830 KB PNG
>>
File: TMNTChaff.jpg (809 KB, 2976x1039)
809 KB
809 KB JPG
More chaff
>>
>>97585762
This card is absolutely disgusting in White Weenie. A single bird token from Screech going through means a potential 5+ damage burst for 1 mana, and its only downside is its legendary. I still wont run it out of principle but holy shit
>>
>>97586076
Girl(boy) boss can do all. Wasn't this the set made with the trans from elder scrolls?
>>
What is the fucking difference between sneak and ninjutsu?
>>
File: MoreChaff.jpg (719 KB, 2748x960)
719 KB
719 KB JPG
>>97586313
>>
>>97586344
read them
>>
>>97586363
No. Explain it to me.
>>
>>97586363
>its actually absolutely same concept
>except one is Ability and Other is cast
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaow
so much creativity
>>
>>97586344
Sneak is an alternate cost, can go noncreatures, and can be cast from the command zone.
Ninjutsu is an ability so it isn't cast, can't go on noncreatures, can only be cast from hand, and can be cast cast after dealing first strike damage.
>>
File: FoodTribal.jpg (102 KB, 687x960)
102 KB
102 KB JPG
More food typal support.
>>
>>97586344
Ninjutsu:
>Can be used after the declare blocker step until the end of combat step
>(can be used to return a creature with first strike to hand and have the ninja do normal damage)
>only for creatures
Sneak:
>only usable during the declare blockers step, after your opponent assign blockers
>can be on non creature spells
>>
>>97586173
>What am I supposed to be looking at
after daybreak took over MTGO we used to get data about every single decklist in a challenge (so like 40+ lists on average)
that was considered too much data by wotc so they forced daybreak to reduce it to only show the top32 lists
last week wotc decided that was actually still too much so now we only get top8 lists for any event with less than 65 players (which is pretty much every challenge except for a few standard and modern ones)

so now we really can only see the winner's metagame and nothing else, the perception of every format is gonna get extremely warped in a few weeks
>>
>>97586378
NO ITS NOT FAIR MY CUMMANDER DECK SHOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN STIFLES ONLY MY HECKIN WHOLESOME CHUNGUS COUNTERSPELL PILE THAT GOES IN EVERY DECK
>>
>>97586380
>can only be cast from hand
Commander ninjutsu
>>
>>97586403
That's a separate mechanic.
>>
File: Sewer-veilanceCam.jpg (85 KB, 687x960)
85 KB
85 KB JPG
Seems decent
>>
I get that the Turtles like Pizza, but do they really need to put something pizza related in 80% of the art?
>>
>Meanwhile, on Tarkir /mtg/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcd59zMIadk
>>
>>97586413
Yes.
>>
>>97586403
why did they even make commander ninjutsu instead of just erratta-ing ninjutsu to also work form the command zone
it's what every casual wants and by the very nature of commander, would not affect real formats
>>
File: NewWerewolf.jpg (122 KB, 687x960)
122 KB
122 KB JPG
New werewolf.
>>
NGL all this pizza talk and pizza art makes me want to make pizza. Even thou i never made one, i made more complicated food before, dont have containers to make it round thou, anyone got any good recipies i can check?
>>
File: RedChaff.jpg (542 KB, 2061x960)
542 KB
542 KB JPG
>>97586349
>>
>>97586433
why does everything have reach now
i thought defensive abilities and board stalls were heckin boring and antifun
>>
>literally every single April card is black

Didn't they say they were pulling characters from all incarnations?
>>
>>97586434
You want dough, tomato sauce, and cheese and then you pick whatever you like for condiments. Decide for yourself.
>>
File: MutanBFF.jpg (116 KB, 687x960)
116 KB
116 KB JPG
>>
File: FrogButler.png (733 KB, 564x776)
733 KB
733 KB PNG
Inverted Poison-Dart Frog.
>>
>>97582993
>No. Too small.
No, judge dredd has more content generally than TMNT, it's a longer running comic that also has it's own universe from ABC warriors to Nemesis the warlock but you could also throw in SHAKARA and other things.
>>
File: GreenChaff.jpg (1.01 MB, 3435x960)
1.01 MB
1.01 MB JPG
>>
File: Donatello.png (679 KB, 568x777)
679 KB
679 KB PNG
>>
>>97586470
If they made this a 1/2 it would be the most broken dork in pauper. Being able to stonewall U aggro decks and live most of the time is insane
>>
File: ManholeMissile.jpg (118 KB, 687x960)
118 KB
118 KB JPG
>>
Why don't they get a property big enough that they don't have to print six versions of each character? Like Final Fantasy.
>>
>>97586497
>Primordial Pachyderm
>Mutant Town Musicians
oh hey, things that sound like they could be in magic and don't have a mile-long text box
but even with proxy art i still wouldn't put them in a cube since they're way above rate for what i enjoy
>>
>>97586412
>no sorcery speed clause on the divination ability
Pretty good actually.
>>
File: Utrom.jpg (125 KB, 687x960)
125 KB
125 KB JPG
More Utrom
>>
>>97586413
The knowledge of fat people is powerful.
>>
File: WUChaff.jpg (682 KB, 2748x960)
682 KB
682 KB JPG
>>
File: magic.png (106 KB, 981x617)
106 KB
106 KB PNG
Oh my heckin science this feels exactly like a magic the gathering set
I can already feel the urge to say ... Kamigawabunga!
>>
>>97586566
Why are "Ace Duck" and "Herman" not legendary but "Stockman" is?
>>
File: GreenPizza.jpg (109 KB, 687x960)
109 KB
109 KB JPG
More of this delicious pizza.
>>
>>97586572
the shilling is so obvious
>>
Are there any sexy mutants in tmnt
>>
>>97586601
if there are, i imagine they'll be suspiciously absent from this crossover product
>>
>>97586584
>5 slices of avocado
>on a single slice of the pizza
>2 pickle chips
>3 whole pickles
>random hunk of shit in the middle
>the rat is wearing the cheese instead of just standing next to the pizza
>the cheese has no crust under it
>the random hallucinated swirl near the crust in the bottom right
DEFINITELY not ai though!
>>
TMNT has like 200 fucking mechanics and not even a single one of them is interesting.
>>
>>97586572
I refuse to believe that person actually believes that and isn’t just saying that to troll people.
>>
File: 2937102.jpg (154 KB, 672x936)
154 KB
154 KB JPG
>>97586608
I suspect we have different taste
>>
>>97586621
Anon ... it's an entire thread of people saying that.
This is the new audience for mtg
>>
>>97586612
>DEFINITELY not ai though!
I mean yeah this one's pretty fucking egregious.
Even if those were tiny ass baby pickles, that pizza would still be almost three feet across.

If an artist was going to put a whole ass pickle and a slice of said pickle in the same image, you'd think they'd be scaled to each other.

Nothing to scale. Nonsensical placements. This REALLY looks like AI shit.
>>
>>97586497
>the card is literally named zog
lmaoooo
>>
File: 1645034189861.png (353 KB, 604x800)
353 KB
353 KB PNG
>Common legendary creatures
over status?
>>
>>97586621
>>97586627
bots and/or shills
that's the magictcg reddit which bans you for being even mildly critical of the new direction, the mods there of wotc's hands up their asses
>>
File: tle-252-hippo-cows.png (991 KB, 745x1040)
991 KB
991 KB PNG
>>97586632
This is the second time his art has been called AI add him to the list.
>>
Pachyderm is going to KILL aggro in limited.
Looks like a shit format. At least it's not a full set so WotC can't pretend they tried to make a real limited environment.
>>
>>97586648
Even if it isn't AI, it's entirely possible that he's just a shit artist that sucks.

In both cases, he has no business working on the most well-funded fantasy IP in the world.
>>
>>97586636
huh?
>>
>>97586642
homelands wins (loses) again!
>>
>>97586648
this "person" has only ever produced "art" for UB sets and every single one looks like ai
>>
>>97586655
It's UB art even at 3000 dollars a piece no serious artist wants to work on it so only fans and desperate artist work on it.
>>
>>97586672
>>
File: IMG_0394.jpg (49 KB, 265x370)
49 KB
49 KB JPG
>>97586572
Apparently this post was in reference to this card. Which, to be fair, is probably one of only a couple cards that looks like it could actually be from Magic.
>>
>>97586642
cast down players in shambles right now
>>
>>97586697
>pick one demon from New York set
>wow if you ignore all the New York elements and the fact it takes place in New York ... it actually feels like a Magic set!
Average UB apologist mindset
>>
>>97586647
Ackshually if you check the thread about TCC's video it has a thousand replies with the majority showing their disgust for the set
>>
File: PigeonPete.jpg (107 KB, 687x960)
107 KB
107 KB JPG
New food making pigeon
>>
Is TMNT worse flavor wise than spider man
I don't think it is
>>
>>97586707
If you were to just look at the art of that card you would have no way to know that it’s set in New York.
>>
File: WhiteChaff.jpg (550 KB, 2061x960)
550 KB
550 KB JPG
>>97586497
>>
>>97586730
I'm not disputing the card itself. I'm disputing the comments who are saying the set is not a New York set ... it literally is
>>
>>97586727
They’re both equally bad. Spider-Man had 50 spidermen and TMNT has 50 cards about the 4 turtles.
>>
A skateboard.
>>
File: FN7l8TBVQAIzawU.jpg (180 KB, 1000x1000)
180 KB
180 KB JPG
>>97586724
Reference to the hotdog cart in the background
>>
>>97586727
I'd say they're pretty much on par. TMNT has the edge for being shit though. Spiderman's shitty New York food was just a sprinkling. TMNT's sloppy pizza is genuinely a major theme of the set, which is atrocious.
>>
File: BlackPizza.png (550 KB, 564x784)
550 KB
550 KB PNG
The black pizza
>>
>>97586751
I've never seen a 2 foot anchovy before.
>>
>we are really getting a bunch of pizza cards
>there is a black bordered card with "BFF" in its title

Just put this game out of its misery.
>>
File: TheNeutrinos.png (712 KB, 584x870)
712 KB
712 KB PNG
New elf
>>
File: 4iyr7k-4184527530.png (309 KB, 750x526)
309 KB
309 KB PNG
Standard Legal New York Pizza Tribal
>>
TNMT draft looks absolutely missarable
>>
File: hate symbol.jpg (54 KB, 976x850)
54 KB
54 KB JPG
My LGS is still running banners for Ikoria on their website.
>>
>>97586780
Yeah the commons make this set seem like it's going to be a total fucking nightmare of a limited format.
>>
File: karaifutureofthefoot.jpg (55 KB, 265x370)
55 KB
55 KB JPG
I'll say one thing positive about this set. They actually made an attractive female, which I didn't think they were allowed to do anymore.
>>
>>97586785
>barely any removal
>sneak is insane "go first advantage"
>common cards power level are insane (for draft)
>literally every card does 10 things and has 5 abilities
>pizza garbage
>>
>>97586796
>hey actually made an attractive female,
Correction: They miraculously didn't fuck up an attractive female someone else made.
>>
>>97586802
Oh yeah, i forgot about Mutagen which is obviously Initiative advantage (aka go first)

There are sooo many problems with nu magic
>>
>>97586802
>>97586808
Another huge deal: Massive amounts of Food will spam life gain and assist slowing games to a crawl.
>>
>>97586803
She has gigantic man arms. And you can’t see his Adam’s apple. Definitely a troon.
>>
>>97586803
They did fuck up April thoughbeit
>>
File: 4n7ro48w6kkg1.jpg (70 KB, 527x766)
70 KB
70 KB JPG
This set made me stay off pizza for maybe a month or so. I dont think even the cartoons made it so unappetizing to look at
>>
>>97586847
>They did fuck up April thoughbeit
Don't remind me.
I honestly would have been fine if they went with an OG comics April look. All they had to do was be true to the source material, but they couldn't even fucking do that.
>>
>>97586858
>This set made me stay off pizza for maybe a month or so. I dont think even the cartoons made it so unappetizing to look at

It really is crazy how they managed to make one of the most universally liked foods into something so utterly repulsive that I don't even want cardboard depictions of it anywhere near me.
>>
File: x720.jpg (101 KB, 954x720)
101 KB
101 KB JPG
>PIZZA PIZZA PIZZA
is invader zim next?
>>
>>97586847
Why did they change the race of characters in Lord of the Rings and TMNT but not Final Fantasy or Avatar?
>>
>>97586875
tmnt?
>>
>>97586875
Both FF and Avatar already had token negro character
>>
>>97586882
Who is black in Avatar? I think the water tribe are more like Eskimos or Okinawan
>>
>>97586896
>I think the water tribe are more like Eskimos or Okinawan
Still counts for diversity points

If wotc wants to shoehorn niggers everywhere why wont they just release africa folklore themed block?
>>
>>97586906
I’m amazed they haven’t don’t a set on Zhalfir yet.
>>
>>97586875
>Avatar
Literally nobody is white in that show anon…

Same with Final Fantasy they’re all Asian.
>>
File: GuruPathik.png (152 KB, 354x275)
152 KB
152 KB PNG
>>97586924
There was one caucasian.
>>
>>97586931
He’s clearly Indian lmao
>>
>>97586924
>there are no whites in Final Fantasy
Are you retarded?
>>
>>97586924
>Same with Final Fantasy they’re all Asian.
Based take desu.
>>
>>97586875
Squareenix is known to be incredibly strict with collabs ESPECIALLY Final Fantasy. They 100% had a figurative gun on WotC's head the entire time.
>>
File: Populations.png (140 KB, 628x932)
140 KB
140 KB PNG
>>97586936
You need to study your genetic lineages.
>>
>>97586858
>>97586867
I hadn't paid much attention but you're right, there's not a single pizza art in this set that actually looks appetizing
how the fuck were they able to do that? it`s honestly kind of impressive
>>
File: email survey.jpg (156 KB, 1080x595)
156 KB
156 KB JPG
>>97586920
They're working on it.
It'll be out when it's out.
>>
File: MonaLisa.png (1.05 MB, 773x1080)
1.05 MB
1.05 MB PNG
>>97586975
How about this one?
>>
>>97586963
ywnbw
>>
You just think everyone is white because you are. Stupid gaijin.

https://youtu.be/q_Xd2xLAjDM?si=gp9dcWJBps-qk5Wp
>>
>>97586771
That`s actually a pretty neat ability. Double a creature's ETB triggers and give them pseudo-haste
>>
>>97586977
That actually looks neat. I’m pretty sure Zhalfir was always the Africa plane. As long as they don’t backwash existing characters like they did with Lord of the Rings, I wouldn’t have a problem with this set.
>>
>>97586981
would
>>
>>97586981
If it wasn't for the type line I never would have guessed that that is supposed to be a lizard
>>
File: VenusDeMilo.png (329 KB, 440x553)
329 KB
329 KB PNG
Venus
>>
>>97586981
furbros we won
>>
>>97586984
Sure, characters like Clive and Joshua Rosfield, Snow Villiers and Cid aren’t white.
>>
File: UrbanTappedLand.png (534 KB, 575x847)
534 KB
534 KB PNG
Urban gain land
>>
>>97587024
Do you think they make pizza?
>Pizza sign.
Wow they make pizza. Very cool! This set needed more pizza-themed cards.
>>
I don't know if WotC understands this, but pizza wasn't "A thing" in TMNT.
They were turtles who liked pizza.
It's not a pizza-themed comic book that features turtles.
How do you fuck this up so badly? Did they not even read/watch ANY of the IP's content before making the set?
>>
File: IMG_6844.jpg (248 KB, 725x1060)
248 KB
248 KB JPG
Is this pizza thing Epstein related? Are the literally cannibal pizzas?
>>
>>97586497
>Michelangelo, Game Master
>doesn't even have the Gamer type
0/10 flavor fail, WOTC
>>
>>97587034
>Did they not even read/watch ANY of the IP's content before making the set?
Lol are you serious? They were given a corporate marketing PDF at best
>>
File: za.jpg (68 KB, 569x828)
68 KB
68 KB JPG
>thought the pizza crap started and ended with the lands
>300 pizzas later
>>
>>97587027
>not only a pizza sign, but the text is flipped and facing inward toward the diners, and not outward toward the street
>>
Where is the guy who posts the giant farting and says he rips a giant pepperoni fart in your mouth when we need him?
>>
I mean, fucking holy shit
The Turtles just ate pizza. It's just the thing they liked to eat after enduring a long day enduring Endless Foot Assaults.

Pizza wasn't some fucking legendary magic iconography in the series. It's not some ultra-significant thing that paints the entire IP.

The turtles just like to eat pizza. That's it. There's a handful of pizza-themed jokes here and there, but over the entire comic run it's seriously like two fucking panels TOTAL.

What the FUCK ARE THEY DOING.
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH FUCKING PIZZA.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.
>>
>>97587043
Jerky is the codeword for eating humans.
Cheese pizza is child traffic.
Hot dog is male child trafficking.
Apparently they appropriated the cheese pizza lingo from actual pedophiles so they might not have known the hot dog meaning.
>>
>>97587059
>not only a pizza sign, but the text is flipped and facing inward toward the diners, and not outward toward the street
Please understand, AI image models struggle to comprehend backward text.
>>
>>97587068
They really should start giving art credit to these AI models, I can't imagine Sam Altman is very happy with not receiving credit
>>
>>97587059
Looks like one of those symmetrical stickers where you can put them on each side of the window to mirror them.
>>
>>97587064
>Hot dogs were in spiderman
What the fuck?!
>>
>>97587076
>Looks like one of those symmetrical stickers where you can put them on each side of the window to mirror them.
Those don't exist, anon.
And if they did exist, no pizza place in the world would shell out money for them.
>>
>>97587063
Wasn’t it a big thing in the cartoons, games and movies?
>>
What site is best for buying single cards?
>>
>>97587100
I usually buy off tcgplayer.
>>
>>97587100
your LGS
>>
>>97587093
It was one (1) scene in the first movie and one (1) scene in the second movie. Maybe 3 minutes of total screentime across the two movies.
I have not seen the shows.
It was barely in the comics. In the original source material, they ate pizza sometimes. If there was food in a scene in the comics, sometimes that food was pizza. That's it.
>>
>>97587100
Your local game store probably has discounts. Otherwise, probably tcgplayer
>>
>>97587088
It's symmetrical you just buy two of the same stickers and place them on both sides. It would be more apparent if each letter had it's own edges. Since they both share the same frame the P won't clash with the A.
>>
>>97587110
>It's symmetrical you just buy two of the same stickers and place them on both sides. I
Yeah but if I'm a pizza place why would I buy two stickers when I could buy one sticker?
>>
>>97587106
>>97587109
I find LGS is usually overpriced. And they don't necessarily have the cards you want. Or the specific version or foil etc.

But I get wanting to support your LGS.
>>
>>97587120
I find the upcharge worth being able to drive there the next day and pick the cards up after ordering them online.
>>
>>97587120
They’re usually a little pricier, but some do have deals. I’ve got one near me that does 10% off all Magic products on mondays and buy 2 get 1 free on all cards that are from a dollar to 10 dollars.
>>
>>97586389
Tribal
>>
>>97587157
Food is not a creature type.
I'm angry they made toy a creature type and not an artifact type because of people like you.
>>
>>97585833
>1/1 bird that leaves behind a food: common
>0/2 bird mutant that leaves behind a food: uncommon
It probably makes sense in a set that cares about artifacts and mutants, but it still feels stupid to me.
>>
>>97586724
heh, Felcher
>>
>>97587165
Typal is not a word
>>
>>97587206
It's a good sneak enabler. Spiderman only had 9 web-slingers this set has more sneak cards.
>>
>>97586732
>I attach skateboard to Spongebob and use him to crew the Spider Mobile
>>
File: Typic.png (13 KB, 451x274)
13 KB
13 KB PNG
>>97587220
It is.
>>
>>97586984
I think Aragorn is white
>>
>>97587228
Oh yeah that's right, forgot about that part. I guess that also makes it a repeatable source of food. Probably way more relevant than web-slinging in Spider-Man too.
>>
File: 1756947329808392.jpg (139 KB, 672x936)
139 KB
139 KB JPG
>>97587086
>>
File: IMG_2667.jpg (134 KB, 646x900)
134 KB
134 KB JPG
What are the odds that Daniel Elson is a pedophile?
>>
>>97584093
Thanks I believe you
I would spend $1000 without blinking on an Elden Ring set
I'd get another job temporarily
>>
Threadcuck, make a new thread
>>
>>97587275
you really want fat trans marika that badly?
>>
>>97586732
There was a random cycle of landcyclers in Duskmourn too. Is this how they're doing mana fixing for limited environments?
>>
>>97587274
He’s obviously a shota / furry but I mean straight up pedophile probably

Am I shooting in the dark here? Especially given the context of the product (lame Gen X multiverse crossover slop)
>>
>>97587274
There’s just no way anybody is drawing Raphael that way unless they plan on molesting him
>>
>>97587308
Done new thread
>>97587344
>>97587344
>>97587344
>>
>>97587274
Are there a lot of nepotistic dicksuckers in Renton? How does art this shitty get greenlit unless it’s made by Maro’s second cousin (he’s trans btw not that it matters). Smart people get ignored because they’re nobodies, so inversely it would make sense that homos like this are somebodies.
>>
File: april latina.png (1.12 MB, 763x576)
1.12 MB
1.12 MB PNG
>>97586443
This one looks latina or even white (with a tan).
>>
>>97586566
Incoming "Homarids are now Crabs"
Damn I hate wotc
>>97586732
I see a beautiful female from my species with pink hair. I simp!
>>
>>97587499
Homarids are lobster actually and they are already planning the errata.
>>
>>97587499
>Homarids are Crabs
>Viashino are Lizards

>But Krangg gets his own unique type

>Damn I hate wotc
Yep.
>>
>>97584093
This would actually be great why is everyone using nightmare vision goggles
>>
>>97587206
I kind of feel like the 1/1 is better than the 0/2 even considering sneak/webslinging
>>
File: 1756453469303519.png (1.1 MB, 672x936)
1.1 MB
1.1 MB PNG
>>97586986
This guy has a pretty similar effect. Saw a few fun brews around it. Maybe the two of them can play together.
>>
>>97582137
That happened even before it. I remember my LGS just asking for the players WPN code to fill in the seats even if they didn't plan on playing that night.
>>
>>97582197
Anon, basic NIER and Drakengard already fill in the fantasy/pseudo-fantasy aesthetics without adding the robots and tech from Automata.
>>
>>97586575
Stockman is more of a classic villain that was adapted in several versions of the show and movies.
>>
Think I'm nearly ready to start putting this cube together. Thoughts?
https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/bda69bee-2bfe-4a84-a323-75f8fd9d2f8c



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.