Tree edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97570232 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Were Sylvaneth specifically revealed for Valantines? What does that imply?
So which version of the Ogroid Thaumaturge is objectively better? The one that can teleport, or the one that kills mages and eats their soul?
>>97582125>TQlife and love have always been connected
>>97582125>TQ Please do not stick your dick in the angry trees. That is how you get splinters.
>>97582145I would prostrate myself before Drycha just for the chance to sniff her oaky armpit.
StD needs it's gambling back. At least a D66 table, anything less is unflavorful.
>>97582125>What does that imply?The lamentiri lost in the age of chaos will be replenished, whether you like it or not.
>>97582154But Belakor, think of the children....NOT LIKE THIS!
>>97582131Tzeentch rules leaked?
>>97579661No, I don't think it'll be quite like that. I think we'll get more normal ish looking dwarfs that represent the more normal worship of the ancestor gods, while current fyreslayers models will be more hardcore grimnir cultists. But that's all speculation on my part for now.>>97582125Oh also about that underworlds being replaced by a UW/WC successor game (picrel), according to the tga guys that comes from an account that used to be pretty trustworthy but has fallen off completely in recent years. Example they gave was the guy saying 2025 gloomspite release would be a bunch of spiderfang stuff (lol).I can definitely see them trying to merge underworlds and warcry into something more like killteam, but I wouldn't particularily take this guys word for it.
>>97582183There are videos reviewing the book.
>>97582125
>>97582192>according to the tga guys that comes from an account that used to be pretty trustworthy but has fallen off completely in recent yearsDo you mean Hastings? Because yeah that guy hasn't been right in years.
>>97582305I think that was the name yeah. According to tga it's a different guy posting from the same account.
>>97582192>I can definitely see them trying to merge underworlds and warcry into something more like killteam, but I wouldn't particularily take this guys word for it.I kinda thought Warcry was already doing that.
>>97582334I think one of the big differences is that killteam doesn't allow you to just take a bunch of mainline models and build a warband out of it like you can with warcry. Switching to bespoke only like underworlds would move it closer to kill team in that way.
>>97582343Which is funny because didn't warcry start like that and patch in the build-your-own pdfs way later?
>>97582347I don't quite remember but I *think* it started off with the chaos realm-themed warbands only yeah
>>97582356You could technically play a few other Warcry warbands at launch but it was definitely bespoke warband focused for about five minutes after release. You had tons of physical cardpacks and books being cranked out very quickly to let you play with generic models though, that aspect definitely overshadowed the "intended" Warcry experience almost immediately.
>>97582250Lel
>>97582356Yes it originally had a more focused theme being specifically warband’s fighting for Archaon’s favour in the Eightpoints. In that respect it was more like Mordheim, a snapshot of one part of the setting, but they quickly turned it into just AoS skirmish. It never really settled on a progression/economy/injury system that worked well either, which is really the special sauce of Mordheim, Necromunda and Blood Bowl imo.
New OBR warband got legends rules up
>>97582621Don’t care, where is by tome leak?
>>97582635N/A
>>97582125So on Warhammer Weekly someone mentioned a new Fyreslayers leak and apparently it's not great news.Can anyone fill me in? Kinda surprised they teased Fyreslayers and ogres yet we are seeing fucking sylvaneth, LRL and Tzneetch first
>>97582684>Kinda surprised they teased Fyreslayers and ogres yet we are seeing fucking sylvaneth, LRL and Tzneetch firstgw teased some of the year's bigger releases, not the nearest
>>97582681Alright, now the rest
>>97579059TK are pretty good, they are excellent in that they can 'play up or play down.' You can do a fun list and generally it won't be complete shit, and if you NEED to be a sweaty try hard, they can be very competitive. Undead are very, very forgiving in TOW so it's a much easier entry point
>>97582681Wait wtf? Since when does this attack?
>>97582681This kinda no-sells a lot of DoT plays
>>97582697It's just a crumble of a leak from the OBR discord. OBR doesn't have based leakers, just GW cucks
>>97582684>>97582690GW confirmed the releases that got leaked in resposn to the leaker not shuting up.We weren't suppodes to know any of that stuff
>>97582684Those teases were for (some of) the major releases left in the edition, not like an immediate roadmap or something. I believe right before they released those teasers one of the rumourmongers leaked a bunch of shit so they probably wanted to do some damage control.Either way, as for fyreslayers, the rumours are that they're going to be souped with more normal looking dwarves, possibly called "Khazalid Holds". They are losing a few kits, I think it was the basic berzerker one, the silver tower hero, and then another hero, I forgot which exactly but it had grim in the name. All the rest is staying, and they're also getting some more fyreslayer stuff, including a kit involving magmadroths. Now, as said before, the rest of the update will focus on more "normal" dwarfs, though we don't really know what those kits will be or look like. I think the number 12 was mentioned, so something the size of the helsmith wave seems likely. Supposedly this will be the final tome of the edition, so late 2026 or early 2027.
>>97582736That's not new at all. Nothing new got leaked?
>>97582125Legit one of the coolest models ever made. I want to get her and I don't even play trees.
>>97582748Oh, you already knew about all that? In that case, no, as far as I'm aware nothing new on the fyreslayer front. Boole did pop up the other to share some new rumoursloppa but it was about the eshin stuff that's coming.
>>97582745That's really nice!
They showed a new Tree. It's a sign.
>>97582681now this makes me actually want to play that thing. the old ability was trash, like most things in the faction pack.
>>97582792I'm pissed because I enjoyed not having to take it to games because it's a pain to transport now the effect is so strong you are crippling yourself if you don't take it
>>97582777The preview just confirmed zero kurnothi this edition. Let's see if you last until maybe 5th (if AoS even lasts to 6th at this point is up for debate)
>>97582809>pain to transport What?
>>97582745thats great art. lizard_hand is a good artist.
>>97582809did you glue the statue to the podest? otherwise it shouldnt be that hard to transport, in my experience.
>>97582816>(if AoS even lasts to 6th at this point is up for debate)(You)
>>97582125>TQ
>>97582809How is this hard to transport, it's basically a water bottle
>>97582821It's pretty fucking big to be fair
>>97582876Your mom said something similar last time we met
>>97582887
>>97582887so she did warn you about the strapon she would be using on youno point in crying now
>>97582149May you get your wish, Anon. Godspeed.
>>97582125Tree-huggers!
>>97582154GW could do me a solid and recycle the old lost and the damned/slaves to darkness tables for PtG
>>97582940>d1000that might be a bit much.
>>97582745What is that tiny thing with a snail-like shell? Is it a halfling?
>>97583009gargoylian aka nurgling but for the sigmarite faith.
>>97582681It's an upgrade but extremely bland and uninspired.For all the mentions of collecting bone tithe there isn't much mechanically that interacts with it. Speaks volumes the designer just saw a guy with a big fuckin sword and wanted to make him swing it instead of making something out of what the statue actually is there for. Why don't all the mortisans restore models, why doesn't this terrain give a bonus to that, and the harvester? Mortisans literally have fucking art competitions out of creating bone constructs. This is a huge stockpile of bone tithe. Make it make sense.They need to borrow the writer for tomb kings or 10e index necrons.
>>97583009inner city version of a wyldwood spite
Yay for recursionhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kttjggcz/how-to-play-ossiarch-bonereapers-with-anthony-from-aos-coach/
>>97583059man, katakros will be mandatory again.
>>97582681>'Almighty' Obsidian Blade>2 attacksI'm gonna assume that the damage is 3 on that thing, it's hard to tell, but it's fucking funny that it's a HUGE fuckoff sword swung by a gigantic magical statue and it does basically no damage whatsoever.
>>97583116Idk it could be a 3 or a 5.
>>97583009Gargoylians, little base decoration dudes that follow them around in the lore. Based on medieval marginalia. Not much is known about them but I believe it's stated somewhere that they fucking hate chaos. They're cute.
>>97583009Demon of order, unironically
>>97583059Restrictive costly recursion.Redundant ward save reduction with shrieker.Redundant with some units 3 up roll on a charge crit 2 hits battle formation.Redundant with some units plus one wound.Arkhan generates 3 rdp.Are people that are saying wait for the battletome functionally retarded?
>>97583014>10e index necrons.I still laught thinking about the preview and what actually came out. How can those people be so retarded?
>>97583141its a 3.
>>97583157Best thing ever introduced to AoS
>>97583272>Redundant ward save reduction with shrieker.how is it redundant if it stacks? do you play the game so little that you dont know that 5+ wards are a thing?
>OBR Battletome leaksyes, much more interesting than the faction pack.
>>97583272>Restrictive costly recursion.It literally just requires your wizard to not be in combat, and you don't want that guy in combat ever anyway. And 1CP to bring back half a unit is the standard rate across pretty much every army.>Redundant ward save reduction with shrieker.They stack, which is very good. And OBR aren't good enough at magic that you can always make certain you have a shrieker in the right place, but that ability will always happen if you want it to.>Redundant with some units 3 up roll on a charge crit 2 hits battle formation.I don't think every battle formation should work equally well for every unit.>Redundant with some units plus one wound.+1 to wound is always a very good buff to have, plenty of OBR wound on 4s base, and even on those that do wound on 2s, being able to counter -1 to wound is nice.>Arkhan generates 3 rdp.Why the fuck should he be good at generating rdp? He's not a battlefield commander or strategist. I think it's a nice distinction between the martial and magical heroes that the martial ones generate more rdp, gives them value beyond being beatsticks.
>>97583372>Why the fuck should he be good at generating rdpbecause he lost his recursion utility last edition and besides magic, there is nothing much left for him.
>>97583381>besides being the best spellcaster in the faction, there's not much going for himUh huh. I don't think we've seen his actual warscroll yet, but he went up a fuckton of points so I'd be willing to bet on him getting stuff.
After MoN got doomposted so much and then after people got to play with them they turned out to be alright I have an easier time staying reserved at least until release day.
>>97583390More than alright. They’re a damn boss fight with the right list.
>>97583390Did nurgle get doomposted about? It was mainly blightkings, I heard people say the rest was fine and rotswords and sloven knights especially were supposedly great.
>>97583389>best spellcasterbro forgot nagash
>>97583407>implying I want to spend half my points on a single dude just for magicI wonder if Nagash generates rdp at all.And Arkhan looks good. 3 casts with +1, 4 unbinds and he gets to double-tap an attempt every turn, his mount is pretty fighty and his warscroll spell is funny (though it's never been particularly great).
>>97583390Yeah, /tg/ is generally absolutely shite at predicting power levels.
>>97583464It’s almost like many of them don’t actually play.
>>97583327They were in Warhammer Fantasy and sort of s staple of Blanche's art, not sure if they ever had a translation to miniatures though beyond TOW familiars or silver tower little guys
>>97583510Thse are both chaos creatures
What would (you) guys like to see from the new fyreslayer/khazalid range? Bonus points if you can come up with stuff that isn't just a whfb dwarf unit reskinned for aos (though I doubt gw themselves will even try that much)
>>97583474In fairness just the battle traits on their own are a lot to take in at a glance even before digging into enhancements and lores and warscrolls. There are a lot of moving parts that are inherently difficult to get a sense for before seeing them in operation.
Entire OBR book leaked, turns out LRL and Tzneetch were flukes.We are back to shit books boys.Ogre players, abandon hope. If you fought your index was bland they are going to cull it even MORE
>>97583630chariot, mortar and wyvern for fyreslayers
>>97583682Where?
>>97583707OBR discord, AoS Coach discord probably has it as well. Robs ass should finally review it later today (he gets off on doom posting shit, so he will have a field day)
>>97583464Is there any nh list that doesn't spam pyregheists?The more difficult question is anyone actually having fun playing them.>>97583372My dude they're literally taking shit you use to have baseline and putting it behind 3 plus rolls and you're lining up to consoom.One hundred percent flat earther candidates in here.
>>97583059>Each battle round, you use the Immortal Elite ability to select a friendly Ossiarch Bonereapers hero on the battlefield and generate a number of relentless discipline points (RDP) equal to the value on their warscroll. Holy shit, I thought if you didn't want to play Katakros, you could at least bring several mortisans to get 2+2+2 points, but no, you only generate them from ONE model at a time. What a dogshit way to do it
>>97583630If we're realy going wind-dwarfs than Root Kings for Ghyran
>>97583864>Wind-dwarfsHuh? also wouldn't those be kharadron amyway
>>97583899Winds of Magic, not air dwarfs. Chamon Grungi, Aqshy Grimnir, Shyish V-smoehting etc.Helsmiths are already Ghur in denile i guess
>>97583906Oh, like that yeah I see it now. I think the rumourmongers said they'll be quite normal looking dwarfs though, it's not like we'll have fyreslayers be the aqshy guys, then some root kings for valaya/ghyran, etc. Though I think there's been mentions of gholems which has grungni/chamon covered.
>>97583864root kings are nothing, they're a throwaway mention of dispossessed living together with sylvaneth, they're not some kind of distinct culture like fyreslayers and kharadron are
>>97584000>he says as if GW wouldn't be more likely to look for meme charcters online over actually reading their own lore and make somehtng based on that
>>97584015gw is not going to make rootkings because some fag spammed about them on /aosg/
>>97584121In the warcom articles etc about the new ossiarches they've made a fair bit of comments referring to them being something that has long been requested by the community to be fair
>>97584121Tell that to Ogroid Theridons
>>97583630Alright here I'll take a crack at it:>fyreslayers part-Bael-grimnir half burnt -Obligatory runequeen/runedaughter model-Droth chariot-Berzerker replacement (in style of flameseekers)>khazalid part-Generic heavily armoured unit hammers/axes, big round shield, you know the drill-totally not irondrakes, but this time it's medieval bazookas because they're totally different yknow-gholem 3 man elite unit-artillery piece-thane character-cogsmith/runepriest character-avatar of valaya/grungni-alright this is extremely stupid but some kind of wheeled war engine juggernaut like you saw in the background of some old art (picrel), with a build option for valaya, grungni, grimnir and gazul, with a different effect for each. Y'know it's unsurprisingly difficult to come up with generic dwarf units that aren't just whfb units.
>>97584322A tank that acts as a transport would be cool
I think OBR may be enough to have me quit. This confirms both my armies are designed horribly and are mechanically uninspired and unfun to play. I’ve lost any and all hype I had for the new releases. Maybe it’s time for me to step back from AoS, at least until they get their shit together game design wise.
>>97584407AoS has never been good really. The rules have always been shit since first edition you now remember the mustache rules The lore is literal dog shit reads like teen fiction, the art all looks like AI generated shit, like show me any normal picture of Shyish for example. SOME of the models are alright looking I guess but the other half look like a 7year old made them. I dont know why this wasnt canned back in 1st edition. Just play fantasy/40k
>>97584347Guess who's back>>97584407What was your other army, if I may ask?
>>97584407I'll keep playing with the old points and index if I use my ossiarchs (still need to test the necromystic army) but I feel you.At least the old spearheads are still fun to play
>>97584529you need to go back.
>he is still trying to bait
>>97584529>like show me any normal picture of Shyish for example.Sure here's ulfenkarn>moustache rulesI feel like most people don't know this but the joke rules people complain about from early aos were almost exclusively from the compendium rules, for example the moustache one is irrc from the kurt helborg warcsroll. Helborg obviously isn't a character in aos, but he was given a warscroll in the Empire compendium if you wanted to use the aos rule system to play out whfb battles (no idea why you would want to do something like that, but you could). Anyway, these compendiums were essentially equivalent to legends. Don't get me wrong it was a massive failure to "read the room" by gw but these weren't actually meant to be serious rules used in ACTUAL games. The only example of a joke rule I can think of off the top of my head that was in the actual main rules is the skaven screaming bell one that made you instantly win the game if you rolled a 13 out of 2d6, which is soulful as fuck anyway and not really similar to the moustache or horsey sound ones. Anyway yeah you're a secondary so you had no way of knowing this in the first place, but still it's a fun tidbit for the rest of you.
>>97582154For what, exactly? Names?
>>97584610Aren't all Chaos names just Abzluthlu'th the Evildoer
>>97584616Sometimes they are called gorr the flayed one
>>97584616Don't forget stuff like Evvill adjectivenoun
>>97584616>>97584626You can also have the clasic 90s ones like "Jaywalker Jimmy"
>>97584610the eye of the gods table. 2nd Edition was nice, but a bit dry already.
>>97583707i found it on the stormkeep discordfull file is too big to upload here unfortunately, so i put it on imgurhttps://imgur.com/a/XI0EUXi>>97584407my>gut reactionwas that OBR is shit and im quitting the gamelost so much power from the indexbut my>first impressionis that the army is quite different, the katakros deathball is dead, but the units are really really interestingmorghast still super killy but now theyre way harder to kill AND they can be returned with the harvestermortek guard, immortis guard, stalkers, deathriders, zandtos, vokmortian are all much bettertriaxes are greatits not the herohammer army it used to be, its a proper army that uses unit synergies instead of spamming the most efficient unit and adding 1-2 mortarchs
>>97584719Can’t have that because TOW got the Gaze of the Gods table.
>>97583560Nah, the Mordheim fish or 40k servitor things
>>97584805This is somehow sadder than that.
>>97584829Yes. I am not a fan of how over time a lot of classic mechanics are dumbed down.
>>97584776That's a cool sheme
I have a doubles event coming up, bringing 1000pts of Khorne, any ideas on what is good in doubles? Thinking of just throwing a bunch of bloodreavers up the table with crit mortals and letting my nurgle partner sit on circles to score for me. He's bringing a big stack of the new warriors and has a bunch of tricks when he gets charged, the idea is to have him anvil while I hammer.
>>97584529>The rules have always been shit since first edition> the mustache rulesThere are so many more valid examples of bad rules in first edition then the compendium rules, like the classic of the Khorne Banner stacking +1 attack, so your Khorne army was 40+ blood warriors all with 6 attacks base.
>>97584844I feel like if your bro is picking nurgle beinging some mobility is probably good, I guess some juggernauts?>>97584859There's so many legitimate things to complain about with 1e aos I feel like if someone brings up the joke rules it's kind of a clear sign they don't really know what they're talking about
Is there any place where I can find White Dwarf scans? Or better, some wiki so I know what is in each edition?I quite like the special armies of renown they sometime do but it's a pain to find them
Only bummer for me from the OBR battle tome are the mortek guard. Once per abilities dont really fit for core infantry. Most other warscrolls were improved and the battle formations look actually interesting now and are not just "spam this one unit."
>>97584776>its not the herohammer army it used to be, its a proper army that uses unit synergies instead of spamming the most efficient unit and adding 1-2 mortarchsThat does sound like something that'd give us the bitching and whining we've seen here, yes.
>>97584776I dunno losing plus one save, having the amount of times you can use the 5 up ward and movement speed constrained, as well as losing crit hits on the majority of your units is a pretty big blow.Like objectively it's worse, there's no denying that. Nothing obr gained that it could not do before.The harvesters ability is better yeah, but you're spending 200 points to restore that archai vs katakros getting the archai to a 2 up and simultaneously ensuring the army had good coverage with the 5 up ward. So now you're still potentially either spending 500 points to get the 10 rdp plus 200 for the harvester to get mitigation that might help after your morghasts have already fought, rather than mitigation that might stop them from dying in the first place. If you don't spend the points for kat you have 6 or 7 rdp with zandtos which makes it even harder to ensure they have points for the ward when they need it.Death riders are nerfed no matter how you spin it. Their damage is cut more than in half on charge because again no crit weapons and plus one on charge. So you're going to pay a 200 some point tax for a baby sitter hero to almost get to where they were before?Ig is also situationally more useful but it's once per turn army so has diminishing returns.Archers do only a little bit more damage per point than the crawler but degrade much quicker, have a shorter range and no strike last debuff which is arguably more universally useful than the healing debuff.Mortek guard are also objectively worse, again no crit hits and their buff working on themselves is a nothing burger because either you could do 4 up ethereal before or run soggy mortek with kat save.Stalkers lost crit hit and a decent suite of abilities to do more damage to multi models which wasn't something the army usually struggled with.Zandtos strike last is nice but I don't think it's much more valuable than the opg plus one attack.
>>97584886Yeah, especially because most people didn't play with those goofy rules, they used the legends armies, but didn't use the heroes, except my Ogre player who always used Goldtooth and would try to bribe people, but that shit was funny and I wish there was more of that in the game anyway. As a Khorne fan, the Banners and the Bloodthirster having the "do crits on everything within 8 everytime you roll a 6" being so easy to exploit were insane for that edition and nowadays they have toned that stuff down alot. People forget that it was being used as a testing ground not just for AoS, but for 40k as well and the designers didnt know how to balance well for it.
>>97584776They could ALWAYS be returned with the fucking harvester.Why do people keep acting like this was new
Our first named Mortek-chan!
>>97584928>I dunno losing plus one savei already stopped using katakros a long time ago, so im not phased too muchthe mortek guard reactively add 1 to save now which is great. stacks with AOD and 5+ ward, and theres nothing your opponent can do to stop it>having the amount of times you can use the 5 up wardyou can use it in shooting now though. massive improvement>as well as losing crit hits on the majority of your units is a pretty big blowyes those units do less damage now, but those units arent hammer unitsthe hammer units still have crit hits (morghast) and with 2 wizards you can give units crit 5+ hits any time you want because of the unlimited spellstalkers, deathriders, immortis, morteks, etc. are not the dedicated heavy hammer units any more. theyre light hammers, and they have to play together to deal damage>Death riders are nerfed no matter how you spin iti dunno doing 4d3 mortals with 2 units of deathriders and a liege then moving 10" away seems pretty goodyou can buff them with crit 5s and +1 wound and zandtos to turn a reinforced unit into a heavy hammer>Archers do only a little bit more damage per point than the crawlerare you counting the SOG battle formation?41 shots on 2+/3+/1 for only 280pcan reduce enemy save with drain vitality firstcan double tap with the liege mortekcan triple tap with covering firethey seem really good to me>Mortek guard are also objectively worseas a hammer, yesbut as a support unit/screen, theyre much betterthey actually take buffs really well too. if you give them every offensive buff they are a scary hammer
>>97584776The best play is still going to be Katakros, reinforced archai with all the buffs, smash forward and try to kill as much as possible. This lazy boring play will be enough to get you two out of five games at a tournament. Maybe even three with luck.Option two is the mass shooting list. I mean it's strong, but if the enemy is fast and has a single throw away screen to tank the return fire before they smash into you, you are fucked. The entire synergy relies on a single 5 wound hero who has to be in combat to make the shooters fire again in Close Combat. He is laughably easy to kill. Then if he is dead you lost the extra shooting with buffs (and they are in your castle, you don't have shoot in combat, and you can't retreat and shoot.
>>97584949it was possible, but it was too difficult to pull it offits guaranteed the first time, and much easier to build it back up now especially with the new triaxes killing screens from range
>>97584949I don't think people actually play the game because there's so much shit taken away it's kinda hard not to notice it. They made anti charge an enhancement and there's no bonus to charge anymore.
>>97584968I don't know shit about reapers, are they constructed by taking one soul and putting it in a new bonebody, or are they like a mix of souls?
>>97584970If you do x, with y and z all based on dicey rolls, then you can maybe do the things you were able to do before by normal.What the fuck is wrong with you.Fuck makes me want to switch my career to sales.
>>97584975>The best play is still going to be Katakros, reinforced archai with all the buffs, smash forward and try to kill as much as possiblethats far from the best playspending 7 rdp to double tap archai is strictly worse than just bringing more archaii agree that the lieve mortek is hard to use, keeping 20 triaxes wholly within 12" after charging is toughrequires some unorthodox thinkingconsider him and the triaxes as a single unit moving up the board together and charging into combatits hard to be aggressive with that unit because it only moves 4" but its a really good counter-punch unit that you keep behind the frontline and unleash hell when the enemy finishes their charge into your cohort or stalker screenalso cohorts are insanely bustedmove 7" in deploymentmove 7 + 3 (rdp) + 6 (run) in movementthen move 3 in the enemy hero phase to get in combatthe enemy unit is now in combat and cant move, shoot, or chargetheyll kill the cohort but they wont go anywhere else that turn. insane
>>97584844If you can get him in there, Karanak and 5 flesh hounds are great at smaller games for being able to warp onto objectives later in the game to getting secondary's.
>>97584984usually it is a mix of several different souls, but sometimes a singular soul is good enough to be just slightly modified (if at all) before being put in to the new bone golem body.
>>97584996Faction pack was an abnormality though. Guess OBR is too complicated for you and you should better play some StD or destruction armies if you just want to crash with hammer units into the enemy.
>>97584984They're spiritually Frankenstein's monster. Their mortisans extract souls, cut them apart, and stitch choice pieces together. A very tiny number of of individuals (e.g. Katakros, Zandtos, perhaps a handful others) are spared from this and get a new body with a minimum of changes wrought on their soul.
>>97584996>If you do x, with y and z all based on dicey rollswhat dice rolls are you talking about? the spells? yeah obviously spells arent reliablegreat insight there you fuckwitmost armies dont even get the OPTION to cast a crit 2 hit spell, much less an unlimited spell that also gives that unit crit 5s
Just a reminder for the Britbros.Hachette will be doing their Spearhead magazine soon, so bargain plastic will be in your local newsagents if you're planning on any of the minis contained in spearheads this year.Usual SOP with the first few too.inb4 >buy an ad
>>97584984Mortek are like 20 people cut into pieces with best parts of them stitched back up into 1. Katakros or Zandtos are mostly 1 guy with minor eidts cut out or grfted onto them.Mortek have no recolection of whothey were, Katakros knows
>>97585049You do realize they just shift the numbers around right between armies? It's not that the 3 inch extra movement rdl is making you 3 inches faster than all other armies, it's making your 4 inch guys move 7 which is only just slightly faster than most elf armies, but it's an opportunity cost because you consume a resource to do it. You having access to a crit hit 5 spells is not the same as something like slaves to darkness getting the spell because the math would make crit hits significantly better for their units because they're hitting on 3s, wounding on 3s for chaos warriors while your mortek have no rend and wound on a 4. That's why I'm comparing the book to the faction pack because it's the best reference point.If you're trying to say the faction pack was cracked or unreasonable in power then that's a whole crock of shitThere are things obr gives up to do the things it can do. It doesn't have mobility tricks or baked in recursion or high unit counts. I enjoy complex armies and this book isn't anywhere close to it, nor are most 4e tomes.
How often does the AoS rpg get releases? Fantasy is getting another rpg book based on Dark Elves this time. It seems like the TOW rpg failed relative to the Fantasy rpg because they just keep making Fantasy RPG books but they haven’t come out with a new TOW book in a while.
>>97585261by the time they finish writing a supplement for soulbound half of the contents have been squatted
>>97585261I've never met an aos player who gives a fuck about the rpg honestly, myself included. I can't imagine it's a hot priority. Also seems like a weird thing to make it based around a very specific concept like soulbonding. I mean I don't know the first thing about running rpg's but that seems like the kind of thing you want to leave open.
>>97585261Compared to WFRP or 40k RPG systems, it's much rarer.last months, they were hiring more writers, so if you want to join the exciting world of RPG writing, you might as well give it a go if they are still hiring.
>>97585294An RPG is a secondary medium. Fantasy has always been more widely popular as a setting than AoS. I would imagine it's just business sense. Making AoS books would be a wasted effort when you can make another Fantasy book and have it sell much better. Same reason they probably aren't expanding the TOW rpg. Turns out people don't give a fuck about the time period TOW is set in and just want " Fantasy " as a setting.
>>97585316TOWRPG problams is that it's just WFRP but less crunchy and set in a different time period, you're doing the same type of stories in TOWRPG as you are in WFRP. At least Soulbound is pretty out there and gonzo in what you do, so it's the closest comparable system in Exalted
>>97585294they had to include a gimmick like that because the game had to include stormcasts and had to make use of the higher fantasy and larger than life stuff of the mortal realms, so the other player characters had to he brought to similar semidivine near-immortal statusbut the fantasy and 40k rpg shine where they are allowed to detail parts of the setting that have only been vaguely addressed, meanwhile aos has much much less that gets addressed even in vague terms so it has to be completely made up, and it's also a setting in progress whose releases and developments will always trump whatever a rpg might try to establish on its own
>>97585294i've read through it, it looks fun, but getting 5 or 6 people together to play it who dont just go "hey can we just play dnd instead i already know the rules for that" is fucking impossiblethat said, the aos rpg does serve as a decent vehicle for additional lore and maps that the main game doesnt take the time to flesh out, at least in so much as the main game doesnt render them obsolete when they completely redesign the fluff and armies every 3 years
>>97585297How much do they even pay? I’ve had a couple ideas for an Aos rpg but it’s kinda separate from the whole soul bound thing. Then again the chaos book looked like it was separating from that idea too.
>>97585353>How much do they even pay?i would not assume much. Here is the link if your intersted>https://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/call-for-soulbound-writers
>>97585389>no one on their team wants to write Soulsboundgrim
>>97584891warhammer vault has a ton if you have warhammer+
>we blew up the old setting to free ourselves creatively>btw here's Tigermen for the old setting
>>97585420To be fair tiger men do read as something creatively bankrupt. Even for Cathay shit.
>>97585420Tigermen have been part of the setting for twenty years, they even had art in WFRP2e so they arn't a new concept
>>97585424You'll eat your words when they reveal the the Tigermen ride elephants. But in reality, I feel like Tigermen were brought into TWW specifically because they are not going to be expanding or exploring Ind (thank goodness).
>>97585420the only thing that couldn't be added to the old world were sigmarines as the posterboys front and center
>>97585466I honestly think the specific implementation of Cathay and these guys is a massive betrayal of any kind of ‘lore’ appeal to The Old World. Cathay as written is not a WHFB faction. They would unironically fit better in AoS.
>he's STILL trying
>>97585467Some rumour say they are going to expand Ind, but this is still years away
>>97585467>expanding or exploring indWith how tg reacted to cathay I can't imagine the shitshow that would follow ind as a faction.I had a look on the total war reddit the other day to see what all the tigermen stuff was all about, and it was kind of hilarious to see how many people wanted ind, or hell even some people that were kind of ...mad that they didn't make ind a faction?I know they basically invented cathay from the ground up, but that seemed like a rather unique case because they used all the actual factions in the previous games and you can't very well launch your game with 4 flavours of daemon. But now it's given these people the idea that gw should take some random place with two throwaway lines and turn it into a whole faction. Khuresh is even worse in this regard. Turns out when you combine warhammer tism and ""strategy"" vidya tism you get some real peculiar fellows.>>97585474People say this but I've never found cathay to be very aos-like, except in maybe some art of floating landmasses and thd like. They'd fit whfb pretty well if they just upped the tropes a little, like add some mega scheming eunuchs or whatever the fuck.
>>97585521Yeah nigger but they didn’t add in any scheming eunuchs.
>>97585521>Khuresh is even worse in this regardkuresh has a solid aesthetic already laid out in front of itbut the point is moot because all these theoretical factions that exist exclusively as names on a map are way too niche to warrant being turned into full model ranges rather than a one off mercenary unit at most
>>97585521>With how tg reacted to cathay I can't imagine the shitshow that would follow ind as a factionI was lukewarm on Cathay as a concept but reading the books and giving it time has warmed me up to them in Fantasy. I still think they are a bit too clean (but not the completely clean caricature some people seem to think they are, a few gaps in the propaganda in the books) lore wise, but aesthetically and tonally they fit in. As you said, they need a bit more leaning into some darker aspects, but I think that's a given over time.
>>97585521>'ve never found cathay to be very aos-likeagreed, but thats because I dont find cathay to be very warhammer like in general.
>>97585535>kuresh has a solid aesthetic already laid out in front of itSure, but one invented by a group of artists based on1). Kuresh being where SEA is in our world2). One (1) throwaway sentence about there being nagas thereDon't get me wrong it's a cool fan project but the people acting like it's not a niche within a niche kind of confuse me. Like you say, it's something more fit for a mercenary unit than a full range. In a way kind of similar to ind and its tigermen actually.
>>97585579there's the third point being the unpublished fluff draft of oldhammer snakemen, but yeah
>>97585466WFRP 2nd edition wasn't made by GW.
>>97585659yes it was anon, it was made by Black Industries so the same part of GW that made Black Library books
Are they so far the only end times models that have been refreshed? I think skarr was squatted.Reason I'm asking is because people on tga seem to be talking about a rumoured refresh for nagash of all models apparently.
Its always funny seeing how westerners want to see India depicted in fiction ( well, warhammer I guess) and how the east in general assimilates Indian (fiction) into their views. Its always lame too.
>>97585579Khuresh was fully mapped in Total War since launch, and CA has stubbornly refused to place any known factions there for four years, having multiple opportunities. They're holding the spot for something that's coming.Have a look at this loading screen: it mentions "My sister at the great Bastion" (already in the game), the Tigermen of Ind (confirmed to be in development), the Monkey King and Li Dao (most people expect them to be released as well since there are references to them everywhere) and finally the Naggas (and not Nagas) in Khuresh.Everyone has been waiting for a long time for Creative Assembly to just say "the Snakemen are not coming" and just populate the peninsula with greenskins or beastmen or something, but they aren't doing it, so the opportunity remains (stubbornly) on the table....and as we know, if it comes to Total War, it's been designed by GW.
>>97585699You misunderstood me. I am Canadian. I have Ind fatigue irl. I don't want them in Fantasy or AoS or in Canada at all.
>>97585691probably, yeah. I honestly think they were refreshed less because of their end times status and more just because they wanted to have a cohesive aesthetic for nurgle in general for aos. >talking about a rumoured refresh for nagash of all models apparently.Only thing I can see ( and want to see) is the fucking mortis engine going away because its so fucking stupid and awful to paint with.
>>97582125might be the paint job on this guy, and I really WANT To like it as an excuse to start painting and dabbling with Sylvaneth, but I just can't really tell what the hell is going on with this mini.The super bright flowers look out of place. The legs blend into the tree and I get this is intended but it still looks odd. I also don't know why there's metal on a sylvaneth model. That crown looks just like the one on the lumi cathalar
>>97585758It could be worse, look at the 40k defiler.
>>97585758>I also don't know why there's metal on a sylvaneth model.Im interested too but If I had to guess it probably has something to do to emulate the ever queens crown. if not, its probably less metal and more of that bark metal that rootkings harvest or whatever its called.
>my yearly vacation time comes round>go back home to visit mom and sister>brother drops by>bought him the FeC spearhead for his bday last july>actually paints them all>they look good>split the sand and bone pack with him cause I can't find the Fire and jade stuff I left behind here>paint all the terrain with the very limited (mostly blue and red) paints I brought from my place>brother finally comes>teaching him the rules>my BoK vs his FeC>I brought IJ too for another game>his mood isntantly turns around the 2nd battle round>noticeably checked out>breaks down crying cause his psychotic on-off GF called another girl my brother likes to warn her about him>my whole family has to support him>I just start packing up my minis and all the dice >all that luggage space and padding to protect the figs for like 90 minutes of gaming>he was winning 6-12 too
>>97585699I think it's kind of interesting how little of indian myth, history and aesthetics is known to the general public, like that place really had 0 "cultural impact" on the modern population, with the one big exception being new age hippie stuff. Which I find kind of odd given its connection to britain and how much the rest of pop history is dominated by an, let's call it "anglo-focused" perspective. Like if you were to ask someone moderately into pop-history to name even a single pre-modern indian figure or state and they'd really struggle unless they happened to specifically be into indian history for some reason (or played eu4).
>>97585758It's mostly jsut a dead tree with a few flowers
>idoneth are ocean themed>smallest range in the game>like 3 actual sea creature modelsSince the retards in Nottingham don't realize we live on a planet that is 70% ocean and has countless aquatic animals (many of which are yet to even be discovered) what would you suggest for a new idoneth model?Giant octopus or spellcaster on big jellyfish would be cool. A big angler fish that can gobble up whole models as well
>>97585800It's nice you were there to support him and I'm sure he appreciated you made the effort anon. Your boyz would understand.
>>97585874Aos is a land based Wargame though, ocean combat is rather limited unless GW make Man O War, but AoS
>>97585874slime girls.
I really dislike 'Eavy Metal these days.Their style doesn't suit modern overly detailed miniatures.Mike McVey was an old 'Eavy metal painter and he did an interview on Youtube: he said he and the others invented a special painting style that was extra bright and focused on edge highlights so that things would appear nicer on a printed magazine or in a diorama, they always needed to make things brighter and more saturated because he said on paper things looked darker and duller....but today?On a 4k screen? With Bright LED lights pointed directly at the model from all angles, high definition cameras and white backgrounds?The style doesn't work as it used to, the world around it changed.They need to learn to not highlight details, and I suspect they never will, because nowadays they think it's a matter of "their craft" or "their brand" and visibility/readability is a secondary concern.
>>97585874Jellyfish, maybe even jellyfish living spellLiteral land-shaerk, bursting out of terrainGiant tentacles suggesting an even bigger creature lurking out of sightBlobfish or sea bunny marginalia for the ladiesManta fliers
>>97585884Do you prefer grimdark inq28 style painting anon?
>>97585874Sea Urchin Elves, Shrimp familiars with little arms and legs, jellyfish cavalry, and a big Dugong monstrosity (like a Hellpit Abomination or a Beast of Nurgle but a Dugong)
>>97585874>>smallest range in the gameDok and fyreslayers still have them beat in that regard>>97585884I really really liked the style they had for the new nurgle stuff. They let the eavy metal team off the chain for once on that release.
>>97585884The Eavy Metal style doesn't help but a lot of sculpts nowadays are just bad. They themselves are overly busy and often lack basic design elements like focal points. Probably because GW hires cheap designers because talent is too expensive. Look at GW releases from any system in the past few years. Almost all of them are overly busy messy chaotic crap. The tech has improved for minis while the talent has evaporated (in GW at least)
>dark oath archers mentioned in the obr book Personally I think it’s a dumb idea. Would only be justified if they had some magical wizard leading them, and not some retarded dude wielding his sword out.
>>97585895not really, I'm not very fond of "blanchitsu" either because it feels confusing to me - on the other hand I think limiting the color palette would go a long way.Look at the picture in the op - how many fucking colors do we need for the bark of a tree?Ok maybe the bark is brown. Maybe it's somewhat green. Maybe it's white like a birch. Maybe a bit darker, a grey....somebody at 'Eavy Metal thought "how about it's all of them???"And the readability suffers....and the belly of the worms is off-white (but not like the birch! A different kind of off-white! And of course not the same off-white as the flower petals that go from white to pink) and every worm is blue and black and white and yellow and of course has a reddish mouth. If it was me, every worm would be the same color. One color, and one highlight. Maybe one extra tint for the eyes, tops, but they're not the stars of the show, they're detail, they're extra. They shouldn't draw attention.
>>97585874her on fish (dual build, one option is a scary dude on anglerfish, the other option is a magic gal on scorpionfish)chariot pulled by a pair of fish that are crosses between placoderms and sword/sawfishsquids swarms giant fuckoff whaleXcatfish monstrous entity
>>97584997> Can't read the extremely basic RDP and still tries to have an opinionBro it's fucking explicit you can't run if you use the RDP. So the cohort isn't doing your turn one long bomb.Why should we read your shit if you can't even read
>>97585961>And the readability suffers.do you just write words to fill in the post or do you think about what you're saying? the model uses different colors for the bark because it's establishing gradients specifically to make it more readablethat's why the character is different from the tree it stands on, why the face of the character is highlighted, and why the tips of the branches also have a gradient so there's no an excessive contrast with the flower pods
>>97584891I don't know about scans but there's YouTube videos showcasing the contents related to WH quest
>>97585691Rob confirmed it
>>97585758Just because she's a tree doesn't mean she doesn't get to make herself look pretty if she feels like it. Trees can wear clothes if they like. The hat is pretty.
>>97585800You can get other Spearhead games you can't get another brother
>>97585691Grey Seer and I suppose the Clawlord is a given but not quite yet. Tonnes of 8th edition was dropped or refreshed but End Times specifically didn't even release much.
>>97586046Claw lords still in I think. Which is weird.
>>97586053Yeah, they've already done a commemorative model with a new design though so it's definitely a pity hero to be released down the line
>>97586032That's where the rumour comes from iirc. Though I don't know how serious to take that guy when it comes to rumoursloppa.>>97586046>grey seerOh yeah good catch anon knew I missed something Also what's up with the clawlord man why'd they make a perfectly serviceable updated model just to have him be commemorative. Feels very weird. Not that the current "old" clawlord is bad or anything, but still, odd choice.
>>97586006The gradient with different colors wasn't done for readability, it was done for show.If it was done for readability it's an utter failure.How can you defend white worms crawling on white bark?
Crazy you can be such an incel a tree having kids triggers you so much you have to shitpost like a schizophrenic about the model for four days straight.
>>97586063>Though I don't know how serious to take that guy when it comes to rumoursloppa.Robs track record with rumors is on the level of "If he says it, it's not happening"
I love vampires and a lot of the Gravelords make me happy, but as I work on putting an army together I feel like I have so many skeletons to do that I'm no longer sure how I want to paint them. The vampires are like not just a separate class than the chaff but practically wholly removed from them. I know what I want my vamps to look like but the skeletons I feel should have mismatched uniform colors and remains of wherever they came from. Does anyone have examples of army themes they like?
I think it’s fucked up how chaos have the best shoes in the mortal realms.
>>97586440Nobody wants to go raiding in inadequate footwear.
>>97586405Have you considered orange and teal?
>>97586459back to your containment thread, faggot
>>97586099He can't, he's just defending the latest product. Despite 4th edition being due to a long line of people accepting the slop along with the good. I swear if we were half the community of HH or Fantasy this wouldn't be an issue because we'd just comp rules like they both do for tournaments because GW fuckign sucks balls.
>STILL tryinglmao
>>97586517qrd?
>>97586405Skeletons are literally all the same, you paint bone, you paint rusty metal, you paint the cloth in grey and earth tones.Use this for inspiration, you don't have to use the oil techniques, it's the general principles that matter. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2fb-ETumImYnGwmVsCwp_kHsM7KndtKd
>>97586405I second orange and teal. Very dynamic color combo.
This is not bait. I actually believe that the "we have Stormcast at home" look better than normal Stormcast. The armor isn't so overcooked, it looks like fantasy armor that could actually be a physical item instead of being ripped from WoW.
Man cmon. Is 40kg dead or something? Take it back there.
>>97586405Consider the following
>>97586593the resident clown ruined the general completely so now the trash spreads to other threads
A while back I recall seeing third party rat ogres that were multibuild and included options like a bandaged skull head and a hydraulic claw, but I can't find the manufacturer now. Anyone know what it could be?
>>97585874>nautilus shaped artillery piece>Sawfish/spearfish cavalry>tall japanese spider craby style monster with a bunch of dudes on top>a piranha creature swarm with some of the models having human limbs in their mouthsand that's just off the top of my head, there's so many options>>97585882based retard anon that doesn't understand how IDK works
>>97586589>a generic fantasy knight but with space marine proportionsoh buddy do I have a faction for you to play
>>97586589>>97586654GK's are getting a range refresh in 11th. While I agree they are the coolest and most aesthetic 40k faction, wait for the refresh.
>>97586654>>97586658Who asked. You're literally just lost on your way to /40kg/
>>97585800Bro, you need to be there for him. Women are a blight upon humanity and he must be protected. It will give you more games in the future
>>97586658Not as long as I collect them. I bring misfortune to whatever army I play, or just things I enjoy in general.
>>97586589I'm not surprised. The death masks are a tough sell for Redditors and secondaries, while the John FROMslop look is the "WAOW KINO" meme du jour.>>97586665Be real, they're here from the Space Marine 2 general on /vg/.
>>97586701That's the thing, the coolest part of the armor is almost 1:1 from history, while the ugly parts are the WoW elements.
>>97586731AoS in a nutshell (replace history with fantasy in the analogy)
>>97586731>WoW elementsare the giant pauldrons in the room with us?
>>97586766Yes, very much.
>>97586731*Warhammer elementsI know you secondaries are all from /v/ and have never touched a mini in your life, but pauldroncore came from Warhammer and was appropriated by all those Blizzard games you grew up on. The fact that you hate the Warhammer elements and worship FROMslop is, as always, very telling about the kind of people still dilating over SigmarCHADS in the 2026th Year of Our Lord.
>>97586618Found em
>>97586701>the John FROMslop look is the "WAOW KINO" meme du jour.I thought at first you were making a John Frum reference about cargo cults but that's really overthinking it.>>97586835>dilating over SigmarCHADSWho do you think you're fooling.>pauldroncore came from Warhammer and was appropriated by all those Blizzard gamesI'm not going to put the effort into comparison images but there's a difference between pauldroncore on its own and blocky WoW armor that gives no impression of its designer ever having seen real armor.
>>97586884You’re arguing with a slopper. You can’t convince him with reason because he didn’t use reason to reach his position.
>>97582681>Have to go personally pay taxes to a giant statue with a sword that it can, at any time, obliterate you with
>>97586589That' a fat Sororitas
>>97583630Dwarf calvary
>>97579318>>97582192If it was any other company trying to kill 2 games that does somewhat well for a new one I would call BS but it is Gamesworkshop so I guess this must be true. (Also looking on how they made underworlds 2.0 as shit as possible it makes sense)(anyone liked the canibal khorne dudes?)(my lgs had 5 of those while all others had at max 1 available)
>>97582192oh btw for uderworlds they don't have enough destruction or death warbands to make another box of 4 reprint for 2.0 (while order and destruction have more than 8 warbands each that haven't been reprinted)If they plan to reprint more warbands they could probably be planning to sell them in 1 warband packs (at least for destruction & death)(they could sell order and chaos warbands by just using warbands people like as Chosen Axes & Skaeth's Wild Hunt & Morgwaeth's Blade-coven & Domitan's Stormcoven as baits for order and Spiteclaw's Swarm & Magore's Fiends & Grashrak's Despoilers & Skabbik's Plaguepack as baits for chaos in 4 warband boxes (picking 2 of those on each))
>this is not bait>is baitWhat a thrilling post that was, anyway>>97587906Worth noting that the guy posting the rumour is unreliable as shit and is clearly just throwing things around to see what sticks. As far as I can tell he's using the username from a fairly reliable user on another site, but he's not the same guy. I wouldn't put too much stock in these "rumours".Now all that being said, I do think the description of the gutter runners sounds suspiciously like a warcry warband, and together with all the other warbands they've been recycling in spearheads etc, makes me think warcry is actually done for. I can see them inventing a replacement for it and making that more bespoke and thus easier to monetize for them, though I don't know about the whole merging with underworlds thing.Tldr rumour is bullshit but still feasible just because this is gw we're talking about.
Worth reading? The idea of a story about an Azyrite assassin seems pretty interesting since the Shadowblades have got practically no characterisation or exploration of their lore.
>>97585706>NaggasSsssssshieeet. Damn naggas out in da hoods causin' trouble.
>>97585947What, you want the brown skinned, monster and demon worshipping, cannibalistic savages to be depicted chucking spears instead?
>>97588100Nta but yes just give them atlatls
>>97588090you won't find any characterisation or exploration in there either
>>97586099>picks out edge highlights and framed areasYou're not very bright, are you?
Seraphon players, wake up, a new dinosaur just dropped.
>>97588147Isn't spinosaurus famous for being essentially reinvented every 6 months or something
>>97588136>replying to an obvious shitpost from 11 hours agoneither are you it seems
>>97588136so you think the model is well painted and fully readable and not messy at all?Be intellectually honest and answer "yes" or "no", don't hide behind criticism of my posts
>>97588170it is objectively perfectly readable, unless you're blind.hell, even the worms only expose their white when they are away from the white bark.
>>97588170Nta but yes to me it read just fine.I have my problems with the mini, it's too diorama-like for my taste, but I don't have amy issues with the readability. It's not like trugg or something for example.
>>97588154It was already perfected 2 decades agohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ysho2xTWUYo
>>97588250I like the ones where they're semi-aquatic, they're like weird enormous ducks.Anyway, as for seraphon, what dinosaur families do you think they could add that are actually recognizable for the general public?Looking at their current roster they seem to have these archetypes covered:TriceratopsAnkylosaur Tyrannosaur/just general large theropodSpinosaurRaptorPterodactyl (yes I know not a dinosaur)Dimetrodon (yes I know not a dinosaur)The only really big niche left is the sauropods I think, but that might be a bit too big for the tabletop in practical terms. You've also still got stegosaurs, stegodons took the name but not the design. Then you've got stuff like hadrosaurs etc but they're maybe not aggressive looking enough for a wargame. Maybe as a cool support piece?Oh I guess pachy's could be done.
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>>97588273Of these I like the support hadrosaur, coatl manifestation, big quetzlcoatlus pteron and revamped razordons the best.I feel like "raptadon but bigger", "carnosaur but bigger", etc is too much of a good thing to be honest. although yes that 100% applies to a hypothetical quetzcoatlus mini too especially considering we already have 3 differwnt pterodactyls but I just like the things so I'll make an exception
>>97585104works for ROI fags too just a small extra fee. t. bognigger
>>97588287>quetzlcoatlusI didn't say quetzalcoatlus
>>97588301They wordfiltered onions to onions senpai
>>97588090Without spoiling anything I can tell you that the book is about her revisiting her roots in Ulgu and the Khainite cult that reared her. Shadowblades and Azyr don't really have anything to do with it.
>>97588301When I think big pterodactyl I think quetzlcoatlus
>>97588321I'm not talking about filtersI'm saying I already have very specific mental images for the great pteron and the quetzalcoatlus doesn't fit in there
>>97588387Based autist
Squigs are already Spionosaurs
>>97585947Nah
Grombrindal omnibus. I take it it will comprise the two novels + the Trials of Albarak series. You want new fiction? Shut up and buy Starseer's Ruin.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/f6qxkgi6/coming-soon-to-black-library-ghazghkull-chem-dogs-and-illustrated-necrons/
>>97586000okay so its a 26" threat range instead of 29"thats still insane
>>97588635I was just thinking and hoping for a new sylvaneth novel a couple hours ago. Oh well.
>>97588635BL seems to be in a bit of rut these days for whatever reason
>>97588635Bloody hell, another release of I&D?I swear whoever started the Necron yaoi memes has singlehandedy paid for Robert Rath's retirement.
>>97588635>More GromgoodnessBased.
>>97588665BL always has and always will be low effort drivel
Are there any build variations for these, other wolf/grot heads or is it basically just this
Why can't there be any hot goblin ladies...With dicks.
>>97588839Because goblins don't have dicks
>>97588860ladies don't have dicks either, clearly he means dicks they're taking from other people
>>97588860I feel like a wizard cpuld just add a dick to some.
>>97588826You can swap out the champion (guy on the back of the bottom wolf with the axe) for a normal guy with spear, but that's literally it as far as options go.
liege kavalos on chariot and two war chariots look fun to play.
>>97588877Not ideal but good enough, that one specifically was the one I didn't want a bunch of
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>>97588974LITERALLY buy an ad
>>97588974Buy an ad and/or a noose.
>>97588974I don't get the gook gibberish but I like cute girls so it's a-okay in my book.
So Eltharion was able to avoid hand of dust because he's pure light and infinietly ageing him did nothing, but shouldn't his cloths fall appart?
>>97589016What makes you think he's wearing clothes?
>>97588818But it's in a rut even compared to those lows
>>97589111
>>97588974You can buy the fabulous and fun one here.https://sherry.gg/booths/019c0f51-9b2c-7f43-a7fa-2f24f134fdb0
>>97589252Is that notmicolash? Looking very ironjawzy there.
>>97589257OI WHATS THIS THEN?GAMES WORKSHOP IP BEING USED??ILL TAKE MY FIVE DOLLA ONLINE VOUCHER GW LEGAL
>>97589266Yes, that was from one of his UW cards
>>97588974Cute rat.
>>97589266He looks more Shrek coded if anything, only the elf ears don't match
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>>97589351god damn it
>>97589257lmao, I thought this was a credit card in her hand for a second.
>>97589441Let's be honest it probably should be if she wants to play anything by GW
Since obr are now on their third spearhead, you guys think they'll give ogres a new one? Because they'll be refreshing basically the entire range, but they usually don't like putting new stuff in a spearhead right away (look at gitmob and deathrattle for example). You think they'll do something like helsmiths again, an army set that's just a spearhead + tome?For CoS they're getting their own special launch spearhead, do we know if those whill be separate or is this supposed to be some sort of proper vs launch box like skaventide?
>>97589642they might have a spearhead of the stuff they aren't updating something uncomfortable to buy as a repeated purchase to build an army but also potentially thematic in itself
Now that the dust has settled, why did the HoH flop?
>>97589642>Since obr are now on their third spearhead, you guys think they'll give ogres a new one?Obviosuly yes. We already know they are planning even more Skaven spears this edition
>>97589696midgets are disgusting and their army wasn't interesting.
man, i hope the rumor of warcry and underworlds turning in to one game is true.
This month's WD confirms that some of the first generation of Stormcast were created from soul fragments of heroes from the World That Was.Celestial Prime is said to have been a great defender during the End Times. It's implied that he is Karl Franz.
>>97589678This box is really stupid but also kind of kino.Reminds me of the start collecting that was just a frosthorn surrounded by 4 mournfang. My dream is to find one of those fuckers in a back alley shop somewhere.>>97589708Yeah, but will it be a spearhead of old models or an army set spearhead with new ones? I lean towards the latter.
>>97589891Spoilers: In a twist of events, it is revealed that the soul of Celestian Prime is not Carlos Francisco's, but Vlad von Carstein's.
>>97589891I hope it's valten and not karlkarl's only value as a character is being a normal human
>>97589938I’d prefer it being valten just because he’s a cooler character than Karl. Even if his endtimes implementation was kinda weak.
What is the size of the new Blightkings compared to the old kit? Do they completely size mog them? Does a good comparison pic exist?
>>97590004old ones are smaller mostly due to the new antlers. they could still be decent rotswords if the basesize of 32mm fits the old models, but i dont know.
>>97590033Daaamn. They're significantly more huge. Its like GW downgraded all my elites into regular infantry.
Ah yes, I'm certainly interesting in buying *placeholder image* for $53. Sasuga James-sama!
>>97589891>>97589938>ValtenHow does that work when Sigmar is alive, well, and fully divine? That would essentially mean that he reforged his own reincarnation into a Stormcast, implying that his own soul inhabits the CPrime. Which could theoretically be cool if Cprime was basically Jesus in that sense, but it doesn't make much sense.
>>97589696People liked the idea of HoH more so than the models themselves.
>>97589791They alreayd were, all of UW was in Warcry
>>97590068They've got a few like that on the website>forbidden powerMan was that the 2nd edition endless spell set or am I confusing things?
>>97590033The old blightkings fit perfectly fine on 32mm bases, and scale with rotswords well.
>>97590113>They've got a few like that on the websiteInsane since the new website has been up and running for a couple years now. You'd they'd prioritize getting pictures of the products up before listing anything for sale.
>>97590088valten was heralded as the reincarnation of sigmar, but he wasn't, that was the grimdark twist of his character and the source of one of the plotlines that were left open after storm of chaos, had that timeline not been walked back oneven in the end times valten had practically nothing to do with sigmar as far as I remember, they get rid of him before sigmar zaps into karl franz
>>97590108i wanted to be nice to the underworld players and not say "warcry is the only AoS side game worth supporting"
How many blightkings is good for a 2000pt army anyway? Since all my Blightkings got downgraded to 32mm rotswords, how many fucking blightkings should someone need to buy?
>>9759015410, at most. They can actually do okay as a brick of 10 with Gutrot Spume as a reserve flank unit.
>>97589891>This month's WD confirms that some of the first generation of Stormcast were created from soul fragments of heroes from the World That Was.Yeah we've known that since AoS was introduced thanks to the Anvils of Heldenhammer.
>>97590185Ya, and we've known that Balthas Arum is Balthasar Gelt ever since he met Mannfred. This isn't news at all.
>>97590161Thank you. With that in mind, how many rotswords could you see an army using? Since if I go with this plan, it seems I've inherited 10 of them atleast.I'd bet anything Gutrot is going to get a model refresh despite his model looking great
>>97590128I don't know if it's a problem of them simply not having the pics or if it's just technical issues.Then again they never even bothered to change dark elves and other hangers on to round bases on the webstore.>>97590224Yeah if they redid the blightkings to fit with the new aesthetic better I can see them slowly refreshing the other heroes over the years.
>>97590273It’s an issue with a number of their shit. Namely it’s of old stuff, happens to me with some HH and 40k stuff when I try to preview it.
>>97590224I'm no expert at competitive AoS in 4e, but having read the Maggotkin tome I can easily see a brick of 20 rotswords or 2x10 in any list. They're that good in their own niche and have some phenomenal buff support.Just keep in mind they're on 32mms like chaos warriors, not 40mms like blight kings.
>>97590042Since blightkings suck as a unit I would just pick up 1 box and use the new models as heroes. Lord of blights, lord of plagues, etc
Did we ever work out if blight tenplars are best proxied for rotswords or blightkings, y'know size wise.
>>97590454Blightkings or heroes. Templars are huge
>>97590454Blightkings for sure. They're not much shorter than the daemon prince in the same box.
>>97590224Rotswords are currently one of the most expensive nurgle units, simply because everything else is way too damn cheap. Pox wretches, pestigors, plaguebears, all are gonna go up in cost no doubt about it. Its why most people don't run many rotswords now. But it will change.Anyhoo, you can run either one reinforced brick of 20 rotswords, or supplement that with a second unit of 10-20 rotswords.
>>97590539to be honest i wish they would make the cheap stuff just a bit worse so it can stay cheap. one of the things i hated about the index, and the general trajectory nurgles been on for a while, is that everything is just soooooo fucking expensive that it feels like you get 15 models on the table and call it an army. this has been a trend across the game, armies getting smaller, but nurgle was hit especially hard in some ways. at the start of the edition pusgoyle blightlords were more expensive point per model than varanguard, more expensive than most foot heroes and some cavalry heroes. beast of nurgle cost as much as most heroes per model, and the army almost always demanded a 500+ pt greater daemon or glottkin because so much of the armies rules and function are tied to them.im not asking for hordes and hordes of feckless chaff units, we dont need to be goblin levels of incompetent, but the army has gone from feeling like an army to feeling like a small skirmish force and a boss monster.
>>97590681I kinda liked the elite feeling of previous blightking focused nurgle armies, which is why I think it's a shame blightkings are borderline useless. Why the hell do marked AoS chaos warriors feel compelled to take their armor off when they reach chosen/champion level? Nurgle does it, Slaanesh does it, Khorne does itTzeentch is the only exception because they still have no fucking chosen or knight equivalents that aren't God damn birds.
>>97590693>Tzeentch is the only exception because they still have no fucking chosen or knight equivalents that aren't God damn birdsDoes the curseling not count?
>>97590693slaanesh doesn't have a chosen equivalent.
>>97590693>Slaanesh does itWell slaaneshis would have a rather good excuse, but they don't actually do it right? Both twinsouls and painbringers have heavy armour, unless we're counting something else as the chosen equivalent?
>>97590539>gonna go up in cost no doubt about it.if they cared about how bad you beat up shitty ironjawz they wouldn't be writing books like tzeentch and lumineth.
>>97586579Thank you, this is a very cool playlist of things to consider >>97586586>>97586459>>97586603Will do!
Which temple is the based one?
>>97590811chocolate elves and /your gals/ where the snake girls have colorful scales and entertain people with private sessions in temples in the emberstone light districts of the cities of sigmar
>>97589678If the Bloodpelt was an Icebrow style shaman and the Gorgers Yeti it'd be kino
>>97590752>>97590760They have a knight equivalent with slickblades, and their mortal HQs all took their armor off (It's a coinflip whether they have a 5+ save depending on edition)
>>97590811Crimson cult. Just simple murder.
>>97590811Mountain
>>97590884since the defining feature of knights is having armor, slickblades are more like elite marauders.
>>97590901Khelt Nar, then. :^)
>>97590911They're more expensive per model than chaos knights in both $$ and points, they're the elite cavalry meant to actually kill things.
>>97590930>they're the elite cavalryelite marauder cavalry since knights generally are pinning units.
>>97590962Marauder horsemen have never once, in the entirety of Warhammer, been an elite hammer.
>>97590911>since the defining feature of knights is having armor,Doesn't it have more to do with having a horse if anything
>>97590962>since knights generally are pinning units.Except varanguard, stormdrakes, demigryphs, deathriders, dawnriders, cavaliers...Basically everything except 4e StD tome chaos knights.
I wish an all chariot gitz army wasn't so expensive
>another person dropped out of our escalation leagueIf we lost 1 more person we wont have enough to keep the league going. 4e has been a disaster for our scene.
>>97590974deathriders are in the new book, blood knights, cavaliers, pigs, the new nurg cav, and stormstrike palladors are as well. No one ever called varanguard and stormdrakes chaos knight equivalent.
>>97591051Start kitbashing
>>97591133The wolves are the only real issue since basic bitch grots are easy to get a lot of
>>97591051For a while you could find the wolf riders on ebay for cheap-ish, a wholesale lister got a hold of like 1k stock of them a year or two ago. Not sure if they still have them
>>97585267Look I just want a pdf-only supp with archetypes & subfaction rules for helsmiths, it's not a lot to ask for.
>>97591153It would probably be something thats done at the end of the edition so they can shove the new fyreslayer lore in it too, considering how plot relevant they seem to be.
>>97591090At least you guys got a league going. Here my only options are basically Spearhead or nothing for Mortal Realms goodness.
>>97591090I didn’t have a local scene(within reasonable distance) until 4e. So it’s a marked improvement for me.
>>97591142I mean if you're fine with the shitty old goblins might as well get the shitty old goblin chariots too no? It's not like they're even that different from gitmob honestly.
>>97591221The goblins aren't the problem with the old chariots/riders it's everything else
>>97591289Unironically just better off scratch building than getting anywhere near that.
Is there a reason why there arent any female treelords?
>>97591289If you think this looks bad you genuinely have terrible taste or are under the age of 18.
>>97591320Because trees aren't male or female you retard.
>>97591327Im pretty sure I got one pregnant the other day.
>>97591327Some trees definitely are thoughbeit. You need both a female and male persimmon tree for them to reproduce for example. Although usually trees are kind of hermaphrodites that have both male and female reproductive """organs""" present on the same body.
>>97591323You're just an oldgoodnewbad faggot if you think these wolves are even acceptable let alone good looking
>>97591360There is nothing wrong with those wolves, you posting low rez closeups doesn't change that.
>>97591370giving me a laugh here anon.
>>97591370No camera can make these retarded pieces of shit look good
so how do we feel about the slann after the randomness was removed from the summoning? worth taking now or still too hard to protect?at 260 he seems like a bargain
>>97591370Anon, those wolves are one of the earliest plastic kits they just recycled for others like the boars that serviced metal orc riders being reused for the current orc chariot MOGGED by battle masters FFS shut up retard
>>97591426Mine's currently residing in my deep intestine
No matter how shit you think a sculpt is there's always some guy who grew up with it and think it's the best thing ever.In 20 years we're going to get gen alpha kids saying bretonnian foot knights or kamendora's blades are great models because they remember seeing them in the store when their dad took em with him to pick up some space marines or whatever when they were little.
>>97591520In 20 years we won’t be on the internet.
>>97591563In 20 years the End Times will have already happened and I'll be haning out in the Sigil Pits
>>97585880>>97586037You anons are 100% correct and I know it's my duty as family. But I know he and his GF are abusive to each other physically and they've been at it like redneck couples you see on Cops throwing pans and fighting for his neighbors to hear. We've told him many many times to break up with his GF over the 3 years they've been together. At this point he knows better so it's his own fault for choosing to abuse to ane be abused. He told his gf that he was going to leave her for another girl (at work) and we all told him he's stupid for even telling her, but we know in our heads that he did it to torture her and make her jealous. probably salt in the wound before he leaves her (really cheating because he keeps his gf as a backup girl while he chases others) and he enjoys bullying her because he's deeply hurt on the inside himself (he used to bully my sis and I too but now we just pity him). I was looking forward to this game with my big brother since August, and it just had to happen once we got our match going. Warhammer Age of Sigmar>>97591051I've been trying to figure out the GW pricing formula for kits like chariots and cav. 65 dollars for 10 space marines is very expensive but it's one of the best values among their catalouge. 100$ for Festus is ridiculous though. It might depend on the base size. A boss on war wheela is also 100$ and probably barely breaks the 1-1 point per dollar ratio>>97591520in 20 years we're gonna be arguing ITT with people who think the warhammer equivalent of MTG Universes beyond was the best thing to happen to miniature gaming. We're gonna be the new arbitor Ian's of the world
>>97591596>the warhammer equivalent of MTG Universes beyond was the best thing to happen to miniature gaming.Except all the MTG players seem to hate UB and think it's killing the game
litter.catbox.moe/05uh42.pdf>‘Swords break, shields shatter, strength fails. Only faith endures.’ Lord-Celestant Telemon’s voice boomed across the chamber, his sigmarite armour bright with holy fervour. ‘The Hallowed Knights will not allow Hammerhal Ghyra to fall.’>Tahlia did her best not to wince at the sudden noise. Although Reforging made the Stormcasts formidable warriors, it took many things. The foremost among them apparently the ability to moderate one’s voice.
>>97591596If wheelas were a 1man unit that just came in a duo box I wouldn't mind it as much
>>97591596In your other blogpost I felt pretty bad for your brother but now I get the feeling he's just stuck in a problem of his own making. Those two need to move on.Anyway, back to aos, it does seem like chariots in general are pretty expensive with gw. Some of the old fantasy chariots also seem quite a bit pricier than they should be when you look at them. But the snarlboss one was bad even by those standards.
>>97582125Age of Sigmar
>>97591664thanks for sharing. i might read it later if i am not busy.
>>97591758Please stay on topic we're talking about anon's hellish life
>>97591664I swear Hallowed Knights all have the tamests flaws. Oh no... I shine with divine light... Oh no... Excellent oration... Vandus and the Stormcast accompanying Gotrek are haunted warmachines yearning for death.
>>97591664Is this bitch black or a jeet? It seems they can't decide and flip flop
>>97591664>>97591875>Oh no... Excellent oration...I like to think it's a callback to War Beast.>‘What language do you speak?’ asked Katiya, watching the exchange with wide eyes.>‘It is the language of the celestial sphere, of the God-King and his immortals.’>‘It is like thunder and music at the same time!’ Her brow furrowed. ‘And loud!’>‘It is a tongue for battle, to be heard over the crash of metal and the dying cries of our foes,’ said Arkas, making an effort to speak softly. ‘Our chambers in Sigmaron are vast, so I suppose we do quite a lot of shouting.’
>>97591917She's Capilarian.
>>97591926Is that some hindu god?
Oh good somebody can answer my STORMCAST LORE questions because I've been reading the AoS starter book from 20151 - What's the deal with the "Lions of Sigmar"? The book basically says "nobody knows what their deal is"2 - Korghos Khul's dog gets a name (Grizzlemaw), and even his Khorgorath gets a name (Skuldrak), but Vandus's Dracoth has no name? What is this bullshit, does the poor beast ever get a name later on?3 - I am oddly fond of a Prosecutor in the book that randomly gets a special profile (+1 wounds) and a name ("Anactos"). He leads the assault in the battle "The Sky Darkens" and he's basically THE guy that opens the portal where the Stormcast launch their first offense in Aqshy, he is the man who single-handedly starts the Age of Sigmar proper. Any news on him? Since Ionus and Vandus get an "epilogue", maybe he's somewhere as well?
>>97591970All those things were removed years ago. AoS lore gets majorly rewritten every 3-4 years.
>>97591664>freeguild scarab cavalryBased.
>>97591520I think most "bad" sculpts that people get angry about are fine or mediocre (foot knights, shaerk, etc), and the few truly bad ones are widely reviled past the point of argument (Nu-Coteaz).
>>97591982maybe that's why Vandus went insane, they Mandela Effect'd his Dracoth>you never had a pet, brother, you used to wage war on foot remember?
>>975919701. Nothing more than that. They fought Abraxia at the Phoenicium recently2. Calanax3. Nothing more about him than that pretty much, that was during the schizo 1st ed launch phase where things would randomly get a name
>>97591970>but Vandus's Dracoth has no name?calanax
Explain to me why it would be a bad idea to rework ogors into a heavily soda-themed army without sounding mad
>>97591618IMO those are just the vocal ones. 99% of the people who play the game (not even MTG anymore it's just commander) aren't playinga fantasy card game. It's an IP fest and the cards are the new trivial piece of plastic or paper like labubu or stanley cups to collect and obsess over.Hasbro doesn't give a shit about the people who complainm about the debasement and destruction of the game's integrity. we're not the people spending money on it anymore. the upcoming 3 in-universe sets are just token sets. symbolic gestures to lead us on before the old fans are phased out. Any corporation cares about nothing but money. Look at the trend of UB slop release escalation and it's obvious that this is the behavior consoomers are rewarding hasbro for. Why would hasbro stop?>>97590693I also liked the elite nature of Maggotkin. the mortal side at least. I like the new models and I applaud them for trying something new. It seems like care and passion went into the rebrand Nurgle is going through right now.But I'm kind of sad that Nurgle has gotten homogenized. A Nurgle follower should not follow the same path as a Slaaneshi or Khorne devotee. It makes all the chaos armies seem like a different coat of paint. Not every army needs a chaff unit of 20, a mid-tier armored 10 man unit, and a unit of 5 each for elites and cavalry. "chosen" has become a genericazation.Like Kleenex or Band aid or xerox being used for the same product despite it being a brand specific name.Nurgle, khorne, and slaanesh all have their chosen. but blightkings had more identity because they were the only armored mortal infantry. I hope tzeentch keeps a disctinct theme.
>>97592166The only thing I can think of relating to ogres is sprite for some reason. So I have no argument really. Maybe you can relate mtn dew to the ever winter.
>>97592166do you guys think Ogors are gonna get the CoS treatment where they get a huge overhaul in their aesthetic? For example, they ditch the mongol look for something else? Maybe more animal pelts and a stronger hunter look even among gutbusters, and they ditch the junk/scrap side? Or vice versa
>>97591875The Hammers of Sigmar are all super fucked up by now
>>97591618>Except all the MTG players seem to hate UB and think it's killing the gamethis is unfortunately one of those situations where the hardcore minority that actually play in competetions regularly don't matter compared to never ending tide of basedfacing millenials/gen-xrs that absolutely need to buy their MCU tie-in cards. >>97591917does it matter? It's once again GW's failed attempt to appeal to people that will never play a wargame. I still can't get over the fact that a guy in my area named his fucking kid after Talia That kids doomed.
>>97592255they have fresher recruits
>>97592166Like as a paint job? putting bits of soda cans on them sounds funny
>>97592274No their fluff and all associated mentions would involve soda
>>97592194>Not every army needs a chaff unit of 20, a mid-tier armored 10 man unit, and a unit of 5 each for elites and cavalry. "chosen" has become a genericazation.Only Khorne and Nurgle get that outside of StD, reallyI wish Slaanesh had an armored unit above myrms
>>97592166The Age of Soda will be the next big story arc
Will they release the sylvaneth book before or after the reveal show?what even is there left for gw to dish out for their other systems as well?
>>97592166Because, Ogors are OBVIOUSLY the beer type.
Does someone have a link to the blades of khorne battletome? Thank you in advance!
>>97592609No ogors are fully on the soda train now. Sorry
>>97592899>almost tripget the sacred number of Khorne>Lore : e30qbta0peumnjtk.pdf>rules: litter.catbox. moe/ jblta6tmv756pjek.pdf
I like Stormcasts, just not enough to play or paint themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM
>>97593103I also like them but I can't come up with a scheme and also the stuff I like in them isn't very good.
>>9759255340kek new edition is coming soon, they're rushing through new AoS releases to clear their schedule to focus on that when it comes out. Any new big army releases or range refreshes for AoS will come after that in the later half of the year.
>>97593103>have a fun thematic idea for a stormcast army>would require a decent amount of kitbashing, 3d printing and mixing of models to fit the concept>already working on two other armies>In the time it would take to complete the project whatever units I made might already be legends'd, if I even managed to get a game for it in the first placeHobbying for he sake of it is fun but there's only so many hours in the day and dollars in my wallet
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>>97593778Oh shit I was about 5 seconds away from posting a new one good that I double checked
