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>>97594585WAKANDA FOREVAH!!!!
>>97594596Not Magic the Gathering.
sorry for the xitter post but the official post isn't out yet>there's a non-zero % chance no banlist modern might become a fully supported format on MTGO just like they did with premodernI'm gonna play so much turbo depths bros
>>97594605Is Nadu time?
>>97594596ew
>>97594596i wonder if the legends about landfills with magic cards is true
I just want they finish with all the UB slop please...
>>97594633That's very unlikely to ever happen.
>>97594596>niggers not in rakdosInsane whitewashing (ironically)
>>97594633Is over anon.Is all OVER.
>>97594596>the fantastic 4 is the deck as bad as the movies>avengers assemble>jeskai colorsso you must be american to be a hero? and selesnya are the african colors?
> TQ >>97594605It has to be a turn two win at minimum. My bet is on Hogaak
>>97594605I'm gonna make the big bucks
So where do we bunker until 2030 when Maro finally gets fired for the UB flop?
>TurtlesFollowed by>LGBTHavenFollowed by>MarvelJesus Christ give me strength for these coming months…
>>97594596Meh. Where is Marvel Cosmic? (GotG, Nova, X-Men and Shi'ar, Inhumans and Kree, Brood, Skrulls, Symbiotes as Licids....) Why is there only one black deck but three white? And shouldn't Zhalfir... I mean Wakanda be a bit blue? Supposedly it's the most advanced nation on Earth.
Im swaping to warhammer, see you at the paint threads anons.It was fun while it lasted
Ah yes green, the color of chaos.
>>97594771
>>97594596wasnt black panther already a selesnya deck? are they just reprinting secret lairs in retail products now? wew
>>97594771>>97594780As you can see, Green is the color of the Chaos Emerald.Remember Spok's famous phrase:The needs of the Beyond outweigh the needs of the Within.
>>97594625>i wonder if the legends about landfills with magic cards is trueLegends? It was Unfinity, actually.
>>97594625It's not just true, it was mentioned in the recent lawsuit as being corroborated by WOTC employees.
>>97595014>>97594964And there's literal photo evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WgH5XISr4
>>97595090No! Put the trannies with a side of turtles video in the bag, Sir....
If you feel bad now Dont forgetThings are going only downhill from this pointBible UB incomingTQ: Pic related, first card i spend big money (for me, 12 year old child on)
>>97595090Disregard Turtles, have sex with trannies instead
>>97595090Can i skip this video?Ofc i can, because that guy is fat balding manchild, also i bet he is not real professor.IS THERE ANY MTG CONTENT CREATOR who is not at the bottom of natural selection barrel? I am so fucking tired from getting recommended mtg video on youtube and guy who created it turns out to be lisping, balding, fat, old loser who never heard about shower
Respect my pronounces anon, or i will eat your Old border foil Ragavan
>>97595142Nobody who makes a living making videos about Magic is going to be some jacked handsome Chad. How the fuck do you not realize this?
>>97595154Excuse me?
>>97595159That guy has pink hair and a quick google search reveals he has tattoos of paw prints on his lower stomach. How do you think that is a Chad?
I had a nightmare that a Spider-Man tribal deck took over standard all because of Does Machines. Surely that won't happen, right?
>>97595167>That guy has pink hair Not anymore pink hair was sub goal>he has tattoos of paw prints on his lower stomachTatoos are cringe, but he really loves his dachshund, as a guy who had dachshund myself before she died due to back problems ;_; I can related dachshunds are based and evil as fuck
>>97595142>play a game made for nerd>OMG why are all the people playing it nerd?It's a mistery anon.
>>97595195>Tatoos are cringe90% of the time he fucking holds his hand on the other shoulder just to show his tattoos.
>>97595199You can like nerd hobbies and not be a genetic failure.
>>97595199>nerds are supposed to be fatNo they are not, believe it or not but you can read books and not eat like a pig at the same time>nerds are supposed to be hairy and dont look after themselvesno they are not, its really easy to wash your hair and shave your beard, everyone looks much better without a beard>nerds are supposed to smell like shitJUST TAKE SHOWER, YOU IDIOT, IT TAKES 20 minutes, jesus christ i bet you spend 4x more time just looking through your pile of cardsfuck off with your dumb stereotype, i am not looking for gigachad that fucked more people irl than opponents in magic, i am looking for decent looking human being that takes care of himself, not some formless blob that thinks about food 24/7
not Magic The Gathering
>>97595250So are TNMT but here we areThey will release MTG Eceleb themed UB, you just know it. We will see all this ugly creatures on cards
>>97595222Why do you care about what the person playing a card game looks like? You're not going to meet a wife drafting Magic cards. As long as people don't smell like shit who cares?
I’m going to open an LGS but set standards for entrance based on cleanliness and mental health (no trannies). I’m sure I’ll be blacklisted by WotC but the business will succeed since people will actually feel comfortable letting their kids play
Kids don't play card games.
WHAT is Magic the Gathering at this point?
>>97595368>WHAT is Magic the Gathering at this point?Dead.
>>97595368A way to make Hasbro money through collaboration with popular IPs via nostalgia.
>>97594605I'll finally be able to afford bitcoins
We cant even actually discuss cards and their impacts on formats ffs.>once the spoiler ends you have like 1 week cooldown period before next set>and then 2 more sets starting to get spoiled at same time>just as you start checking them out wotc announces new format to try to bandaid this mess their jewishness createdFFS i just want to discuss cards with my bros and play silly homebrews.
>>97595432>FFS i just want to discuss cards with my bros and play silly homebrews.I tried pretty hard to keep the discussions going, man. It's just not worth it anymore. Broken slop bubbles to the surface on its own busted ass design, you don't even have to think about anything. no format is worth discussing because every format now solves itself and every decklist builds itself.
I just lost 3 games to this piece of shit boosted FIRE (in my ass) card in championship qualifier10k gems down the drainI dont feel so good, bros
>>97595471lmao get FIREd
>>97595432Fire benders ascension brewers are going to put the wheel of fortune turtle in their decks. And I think that's funny. 2 lands for 3 mana is a great deal.
>>97595471>standard>arena
>>97595507Who are you going to attack with to cast it for 3?
>>97595090Maybe being an alcoholic wasnt so bad...
>>97595507This might be the worst art in the set, and therefore the worst of all time.
>>97595142>IS THERE ANY MTG CONTENT CREATOR who is not at the bottom of natural selection barrel?that MMA fighter one
>>97595515This guy and the 1 mana otter enchantment. ramping into dragonback assault in a landfall deck
>>97595432>just as you start checking them out wotc announces new format to try to bandaid this mess their jewishness createdwhich new format are you talking about?
>>97595547He's shilling premodern.
Kek this is literally illegal in Italy
Stop crying about "muh standard meta"https://youtube.com/shorts/gdDCEVT6Tsg
>>97595605Buy an ad.
More Dominik art
>>97595603In normal retail, events are whatever.
>>97595618He's a solid 7/10 and utterly not within MTG's aesthetic.
>>97595624>not within MTG's aestheticWhen did you start playing?
Leave Myr out of this.
>>97595621And before you say something retarded about the bottom part, that excuse doesn't hold when you are hosting an event with thousands of people and you are going around holding and hosting vendors that have paper cards worth millions in value, security at these events, whenever is against catastrophes or robbery is another must by Italian and European law.
>>97595660>Without sufficient reasonlmao nice commie government. Soon they will take the money directly out of your account when your Digital ID pings your location data.
>>97595631magic flavor text has fallen
>>97595605I hope you people understand why we need bullies back.
Custom card coming through.
>>97595822ManifeastonDEEZnuts
why do i always draw twice as many lands in drafts on arena as i do when i draft in person
>>97595862>why do i feel this totally not rigged online "game" is... rigged?
when did these threads become such an embarrassment?it's the same retards posting the same retardation every day.
>>97595906probably after you came anon.
These are the cards that are STILL CHEAP (less than $1) and according to my research, they will spike when the premodern vultures start buying them all.My research analyzed the popular decks on the rise and possible bans and unbans. I also talked to players, consulted store owners and enthusiasts of the format, I also joined 3 Premodern Discord groups to lurk.If you're interested in these cards, buy them now!Or regret paying $10 for a $0.30 common card later.Avatar of WillBequeathalBirchlore RangersBladewing's ThrallBlood LustBreakthroughBriar ShieldBrood of CockroachesCoffin PuppetsCommon CauseConfessorContested CliffsDeath Pit OfferingDisrupt startingDregs of SorrowDromar's CharmEmerald CharmFallow WurmFeast or FamineFestering WoundFledgling DragonForeshadowFrog TongueGerrard CapashenGoblin SoothsayerHearth CharmHeartwood GiantHonorable ScoutHorned KavuHunted WumpusInfernal ContractJuxtaposeKeldon VandalsMask of the MimicMask of the MimicMogg AlarmMultani's PresenceMystic PenitentNature's ResurgenceNo Rest for the WickedNoble PantherOkkOutbreakPutrid RaptorQuashQuirion SentinelRhystic SyphonRites of SpringRofellos's GiftScalding TongsScandalmongerSewer RatsSinister StrengthSisay's IngenuitySkycloud Egg and all other Odissey EggsSkyshroud CondorSolfataraSpike CannibalSpy NetworkStrongarm TacticsSunken CityTethered GriffinTreva's CharmTurf WoundUktabi FaerieVengeful DreamsWild MightWoodripper
>>97596072I'm one of the only oldfags left.wish I weren't though.this place has become mostly frogchildren and gen z creatures making the exact same posts every thread >>97596117
>>97596204uh oh redditor melty!
>>97596204not you game anymore, boomergo play bingo in retirement Home
>>97595618>>97595631I like these ones
Affinitybros...is this worth a mox playset?
>>97595471I was playing sealed today and at some point the dude I was playing against activated the second ability with two forests and a swamp and I incorrectly assumed that was not possible because Figure of Destiny required three pips of either of its colors to do that. I should get with the times.
>>97594964What a waste of perfectly good pallets
>>97595618I was saying this about Tokka & Razhar but these bad cards have some good art
There are currently 83 sweepers in Standard.
>>97596450>Utrom is a creature type>we don't need Cephalid or Viashino but we absolutely can't call this brain monster a Horror or Alien, Utrom tribal synergy is very important
>>97596591and all are wortless because MonoG landfall shits out board at your endstep
>>97596591How many are live on turn 2?
>>97596472>Figure of Destiny required three pipsPower creep a card in one way?Nah.Power creep a card in TEN ways at once?Ship it.
>>97596599Thinks about the nostalgia anon!!!How will shareholders be happy if we cant grab those nostalgic pigs?
Please rate
>>97594596So there's plenty of characters I can think of for the Avengers, FF, and vilains deck, but who the fuck is going to be in the Black Panther deck? He doesn't exactly have a very big supporting cast, the only associated characters of his anyone can name are Shuri, Okoye, Nakia, and M'Baku, hardly enough to fill out a full deck.
I'll probably play Splinter's Technique, Shredder's Technique, and Ninja Teen. They seem strong.
>>97596636pyroclasm
>>97596823I guess they could also include previous Black Panthers, Bast (the Panther God), White Wolf (T'Challa's white adopted brother), Ramonda (T'Challa's mother), Everett Ross (Martin Freeman), Ulysses Klaw, and Killmonger. But yeah, that's still not much.
>>97595471I don't enter those anymore because changing the wins from 7-2 to 7-1 to qualify for Day 2 absolutely fucked the EV.have never seen anyone bring that up though.
>>97596796needs affinity for feet
>>97595199Funny enough zoomer nerds are more jacked than their previous counterparts
>>97596880they're also heinous, barely-literate normalfags addicted to social media.nerd shit was much better back when it could at least pretend to be somewhat counter-culture.
>>97596880Their previous counterparts were actual nerds, nerd culture permeated through every level of popular media after Marvel movies exploded in the 2010s now it's just normie shit. You would've gotten insulted if you were an adult reading spiderman comics and playing DnD in the 90s. Now it's just a normal thing, there's not many actual nerds these days.
You know magic as Garfield intended involves you buying boosters and then trading cards. That's why it's called a TCG (trading card game).
>>97596959Magic as Garfield intended is UB.
>>97594585I thought Rat King was a mutant, why is he an Avatar?
>>97596965The game is inherently about wizard battles. This is why UB fails for me. It just doesn't make sense.
>>97595618Got a chuckle out of this token.
Garfield UB when?
>>97596982>The game is inherently about wizard battlesThat's the thing, that wasn't what he envisioned. The first batch would be classic fantasy, but he wanted other sets to be other genres and settings. Obviously they didn't go that route, but he's talked about it in interviews before.
I'm bringing rakdos theft to pauper night tonight. Oh, you finally cast a big blocker? Give me that. Now I cast accurse marauder and sacrifice it. U mad?
>>97596879Footwashing back then was a way to welcome travelers who had crossed long distances. So you could represent it with affinity for tapped creatures
>>97596993UB mundo de gaturro, ¿cuando?
Do you even understand gush?
>>97594633Marvel coming soon. Although it seems like the Hobbit and Star Trek will also be small sets like TMNT.
>>97597062I've seen it, most of those pages are just extraneous diagrams and pictures.
>>97597067The Hobbit being a small set is a resonable prediction, but why would you think that Star Trek would be a small set? If it was just TOS or TOS and TNG maybe, but they're covering the entire franchise, they'd have to omit a lot of characters to make it a small set.
>>97596117Based anon researcher
>>97597072gotta pad the pages somehow kek
Looking at Digimon cards and its crazy how many of them are just big tittied women.
>>97597113Yu-Gi-Oh! also has way too many waifu cards.
There are eleven Leonardos between the "main" Turtles set and the Commander cards. Six Aprils. Five each of Shredder and Splinter. I think other characters like Mona Lisa are only in this set because they got tired of focusing on the core retinue
>>97597020If your opponent's feet are dirty, Jesus gets +2/+2 and vigilance.
>>97597113Don't worry bro, we got you a digimon who's a pudgy bitch with small tits
>>97597131we needed more pizzas
>>97597146Why no blue of white 'za?
>>97597146Boy am I glad Lorwyn was such a terrible set, am I right my fellow /mtg/ posters? Now we can look forward to exciting new cards like Spicy Oatmeal Pizza, ha ha. Isn't Magic: the Gathering (Universes Beyond) great?
>>97597154we'll have to do with this
>>97597170I agree fellow Magic the Gathering enjoyer!!! But don't forget who will save your game and skyrocket this game to a new golden age :^)
>>97597188Can't wait to beat people with the only real captain
>>97597195You mean captain Jean Luc Picard galaxy brain of Federation right?
>>97597087>Gush
>>97597211No I mean James T. Kirk, mind you, he could be browsing this very thread.
>>97597131I think it's more that they know that unlike Spider-Man or Lord of the Rings, most people are completely unaware of TMNT beyond the core retinue. How many people here can honestly say they knew about Jennika, Lita, Pizza Face, Kitsune, Armaggon, Tempestra, Old Hob, or Pigeon Pete? So they gave the main cast a bunch of cards to ensure that there's "a turtle in every pack", while also having other characters depicted for the sake of variety.
>>97597195>>97597211>>97597224Sisko is better.
>>97596993>Weekly Grudge RB >Destroy target artifact or dog>flashback: sacrifice a food token>If there's anything Garfield hates,it's Monday—especially Monday morning, the first morning of the week
>>97597236For me the Captain rankings are:>Picard>Sisko>Kirk>Pike (SNW)>Janeway>Archer>Dal R'El>Burnham
You guys are fooling yourselves. Star treck is already pozzed. Wotc is not going to let anything cool happen. Look at what they did to lord of the rings and TMNT. Every chance they get they will make this as black and gay as possible.
see this is the problem with fucking ubs you attract faggot ners from other franchise and whatever discussion about your product, aka magic the gathering the tcg, dilutes in pointless conversations about outsider decadent franchises "Sephirot is so cool" "Kirk better than Picard" "Ninja turtles had a second generation?" god this is insufferable and will only get worse...
>>97597289But what's your favorite furby?
To anyone who has a silver border/acorn/playtest card box/cube. What are some fun includes and is there a place for this guy? I picked up the Unsanctioned box (they had gutted the foil lands, but I replaced them with Thriving Lands) and have been picking up the occasional Unstable and Unfinity booster at my mall's LGS to add to my options. I feel this 5 color cost is a bit hard to fit in alongside the landbase I'd probably be having in there.
>>97594585>TQRise of the Dark Realms.
>>97597276This is too new to be in the set.
>>97597146I AM A TURTLE AND I EAT PIZZA!!!
>>97597361The original Cheaty Face. You might want to get an extra copy. It could get damaged from people keeping him in their sleeves
play pauper and premodern
>>97597386But it shows that the CBS and Paramount don't care if wotc disrespects star trek. Wotc has a long track record of being as gay as possible when given the opportunity. We are going to go where no tranny has gone before.
>>97597412Nah.
>>97597420This art is really good but I just know they're going to fuck it up somehow
>>97596993Right after a pro wrestling one
>>97597426Sure but they won't blackwash anyone. There's too much merch tied to the universe.While Aragorn had only the movie.
>>97597389fucking hell that is literally a third of the set
>>97597455April O'Neal was always a white redhead and wotc turned her into a sheboon. There will be race swaps. The only question is who
>>97597494My guy she is black in one of the recent tv shows.
>>97594596They are going to do an X-men set next year aren't they
>>97597494Also in some of the comics. They cannot change someone's ethnicity without approval of the trademark owner.
tribble token
>>97597494I think it is actually a rule now that all new April's have to be black in some way. Recent cartoons and movies and comics all do it
>>97594596>TWO fantastic four decks>the obligatory WAKANDA FOREVER>one, singular Avengers deck, zero X-Menlmao, imagine being a mousecuck.
Post mechanics that should never return.
>>97597508>My guy she is black in one of the recent tv shows.He said "was." Are you impaired?"Current Year" is full of race swaps, gender swaps, gender-swapped replacements, and straight characters suddenly being changed to homosexuals, but it's all artificial, and done to serve agendas and the "feels" of the woke and/or spineless people who now control these properties.It's all fan fiction, though. They can't change history, they cannot wipe it from our minds, no matter how much they might want to.It's all just shallow fan fiction, from vampires– Parasitic leech people who couldn't make anything memorable of their own.Has that spelled it out sufficiently for your dumb ass, or are you a typical leftist stooge, just playing stupid so they cannot be reasoned with?>>97597533>I think it is actually a rule now that all new April's have to be black in some way. Recent cartoons and movies and comics all do itEven if this is true, they won't be in charge forever.When it comes to these franchises, once you go black, you can still most certainly go back, no matter how much the woke assholes cry about it. I'd point out picrel as a recent version of April that was still white.I'll be voting with my dollar: I have plenty of TMNT, without resorting to the slop.
>>97597543Ok but it's already confirmed to return.
>>97597455Not to mention, they don't NEED to blackwash anyone since Star Trek has more than enough prominent black canon characters to feature on cards: Uhura, Worf, LaForge, Sisko, Tuvok, Guinan...
>>97597543Mutate, Full Party, Investigate, Villainous Choice, Day/Night, doublefaced cards in general, Crimes, Chaos Ensues, Speed, Enter the Dungeon, and yes, Miracle. Just off the top of my head.Aftermath is an okay design space but it's so fucking ugly to look at I'm tempted to add it to the list.
>>97597560>Worf, Tuvok, GuinanThose are aliens though
>>97597543>Miracle>DFCs (WotC will never accept this)>Dungeons>Initiative>The Ring Tempts You>Companion>Speed>Day/Night
>>97597587And?
>>97597585>InvestigateWhat's wrong with Clue tokens aside from the awkward keywording and edge case of them not needing to tap?
>>97597637tokens
>>97597585>Enter the Dungeon>Miracle>Crimes>Day and NightYou lost me, chief.
>>97597666As far as tokens go they are far from the most offensive thing next to the 50000 miniscule variations on creature tokens.
will the ring temps you come back in the hobbit?
Be prepared
>>97594605very excited for this, they are moving with contraption formats way faster than I expected, hopefully they do no banlist pioneer at some point
>>97597443>Right after a pro wrestling one>Faces have protection from Heels.>John Cena with flash
>>97597236>>97597247man Sisko is one of the worst characters in his own show.who the fuck even cares about Sisko he sucks
>>97597745Fuck you.
>>97594596Where's Deadpool?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y1sQPyhz5s
>>97597753Quark, Odo, Bashir, Worf, even Kira and O'Brien are all better characters.Only Dax is below Sisko. Come on.
>>97597676Oh wow, a black border Cheatyface.
>>97597788What a pleb take.
>>97597420How long do you think it's going to take before artists working for a billion dollar company learn the most basic fucking rules of image composition?
>>97597543landfall
>>975977887 of 9 should have been the Captain of Voyager
>>97597420>>97597494Race-swap UHURA
>>97597420Do people still care about Star Wars nowadays?
>>97597939>Do people still care about Star Wars nowadays?No.Of all the IPs that stupid people have killed, Star Trek is by far the most dead.
>>97597676this art looks... unusual
>>97595618Myr-like
>>97597939Only for the small sideprojects that has more leeway to fuck up (more freedom to do whatever the fuck they want). Overall, the IP has largely fallen from grace. Nobody gets hyped about it, if anything whemever something drom Star Wars ends up being good, its more of a surprise and never expected.
>>97597888It's a scene from the series, they probably just fed it to a llm and told to make it look like a painting.
I hear the new entries for Star Trek lambasted the classics is it true?
>>97597939That’s star trek you retard. But no nobody gives a shit about either at this point. They are dead franchises being paraded around to the applause of woke wankers. They literally have a gay trans klingon. If that doesn’t tell you everything you need to know nothing will.
>>97598120that pic is AI right?
How has the Powered Cube been treating you?it's easy gems
>>97598083>>97598239The currently airing Star Trek show is called Starfleet Academy. It feels like a /tv/ shitpost turned into a show, except not even /tv/ shitposters could shitpost this hard. Like, you can't make some of this shit up.
>>97598239https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdVjqzh-Zc0If it is AI that is a lot of effort they went to.
>>97598350Pick unrelated. I was about to post about how much I was enjoying that manga.
>>97597670Even better, the Ring Tempts You will now be in Standard!
UB: NikocadoWith The One Ring reprint
>>97597670I hope so, that was a great limited mechanic.100x better than their other attempts at that shit like initiative/monarch/enter the dungeon. much better than speed was too.
>>97597939>>97598120>>97598344Star Trek and Star Wars are dead; JJ Abrams paved the way for both to devolve.
Watching some old Legacy vids. It's so funny to me that Liliana of the Last Hope used to be a maindeckable card.
>>97598517The power creep in mtg is fucking ridiculous. There are some cards I read and I just go>Fuck me that's OPAnd they don't even see standard play. The game can end by turn 2-3 just from creatures. What in the name of fuck is going on?
>>97598629Cards have to be pushed to sell packs. Then UBs come and there's a new incentive to make UBs feel acceptable: by making UB cards more pushed so they feel more attractive.
>>97598634Indeed, and they also seem to choose the stupidest fucking cards for it like the badgermole and a grandma.
Nerd people lost the culture war. The "Normal" people made our shows and movies worse, made our games worse, and even made our news worse. It is over. Just accept your fate, nothing that you once liked will ever return to be good.
>>97598702Fuck off demoralising cunt. I’ve never met you but can picture you perfectly
>>97597227> unlike spiderman
>>97597276The story about a post-scarcity society who decided that money is obsolete and always look for nonviolent solutions first became pozzed? The story that started with a television series that had the world's first televised interracial kiss? Pozzed?
>>97597276Spock will be black MARK MY WORDSThe GAY FUCKING KLINGON WILL BE MADE INTO A STANDARD STAPLE MARK MY FUCKING WORDS THEY WILL FUCK UP STANDARD EVEN MORE IF YOU THINK IT'S ALREADY POWER CREPT JUST FUCKING WAIT JUST YOU FUCKING WAIT TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY WILL FUCK US ALL THEY WILL FUCK US IN THE ASS Play cube with curated collections, bonus points for pauper/budget cubes
>>97597405>Xhe is using spoilers to hide pre-modern after I keep calling out his shilling>Xhe is including pauper now to avoid me complaining about said shilling>Xhe mad xhe keeps getting called outFuck off shill, buy an ad
>>97597745Sisko is my husbando
>>97595538more like thunderbrap haha
>>97598702Epstein had a hand in this if you think about it really hard
>>97597113You know what's even crazier? Look at the size of those anime milkers
>>97598756Go write other bad fanfiction into reality
>>97598857You can trace 90% of all the bad things in the world to rich jews, including the mundane stuff like hobbies and videogames. In fact Epstein had his hands on predatory vidya business models and microtransactions
>>97598912why does mtg suck this much >:
>>97597113>>97597128Could it be because the Japanese like pretty women?
>>97597113Meanwhile the only titties we get
I hate all the TMNT shit but this secret lair looks pretty cool. Just a talented artist. Still a bit cartoony though but I guess he's a comic book artist.
>>97599140>Could it be because the Japanese wish to be pretty women?Yes.
>>97598777You know there's a difference.
>>97595159>stutters when he speaksAlas, he could not expunge the nerd from himself
>oh hey the official TMNT spoilers have begun>literally Spiderman 2.0, down to Common rarity Legendary CreaturesAnother Commander set for the Commander game.
>>97599436Yeah but this time they learned their lesson and powercrept the shit out of it, so people will be forced to interact with it in Standard.
>TQThey should have brought back the untap mechanic. It's not a broken infinite as long as it cost mana. idk if devoted druid was an infinite when it was in standard
Great additions to my 5 color fatty deck. Gives you cozy winter vibes. For when your pod is stuck indoors during the winter
>WotC is adopting a design philosophy of not banning cards because players find a large banlist "too complicated">They cited EDH as the way they learned this
>>97599504This was Devoted Druid's partner in crime.
>>97599636> Loses to a baby spiderA turn 4 infinite power vanilla creature is peak soul. You couldn't rely on this creature getting through so it will need to be surrounded by other efficient creatures for beatdown. standard had creature beatdown + infinite combo from ravnica through shadowmore. Remember when heliod combo was top tear for month. Current year you have badgermole mana into one card win the game spells.
>>97599736Blame Arena.
>>97597113>>97598912Can we get more examples? Just for scientific purposes
>>97598803im not the guy who originally made the 'play premodern' posts im just copying him
Only 1/3rd of the TMNT set's art features pizza. WTF WotC? Why doesn't every card art in the set feature pizza?!THE PEOPLE DEMAND MORE PIZZA.
>watching small-ish streamer (~50 viewers)>he is cool, decent, positive (not fake positive) guy who is good at the game>ask him>"What UB set would make you quit MTG on the spot?">expect answer like Teletubies, ponies literally anything>he says "Probably none"Thats when i realized, this people have no spine, WOTC can spit in their face and they will happily swallow it.So I am asking youWhat UB set would make YOU quit MTG on the spot?
>>97600034Probably none
You could fling the quillspike for lethal. The quillspike could just eat the -1 -1 counter from the spider to avoid dying next turn. Mistmeadow skulk can wall him though (((pwk))).
>>97600054
>>97600059Spit
>>97599952I AM A TURTLE AND I EAT PIZZA
>>97600034>What UB set would make YOU quit MTG on the spot?It was The Walking Dead. Haven't touched the game since.
>>97600034Would? I already quit.
>>97599250So is Kev Walker, but people don't complain about his art being too cartoony
>>97600034If they make real Magic sets I am interested in, I will buy them.If they make UB sets, I will not buy them.It would take a long string of UB and shitty real sets to remove me completely as a player, and even then I would still probably play premodern and cube sometimes.
>>97600117>It would take a long string of UB and shitty real sets to remove me completely as a player, and even then I would still probably play premodern and cube sometimes.Hello? You shouldve abandoned in 2025 desu
>>97600055Why do people praise lorwyn art so much, looks like shit to me
>>97600034I only play a curated set of standard decks from days long ago. Magic doesn't draw enough people to bother going to the lgs anymore. It is no longer a competitive game. It is a party game. If you don't like <insert UB here> then rule zero it out.
>>97594596>black panther>white mana
>>97600158Problem?
>>97600158We are kings.
>>97600151>pearls before swine
>>97600034I just ignore sets that look like shit. If a set comes out that looks fun, I'll play it.
>>97600034I play Pioneer on Arena. I barely see any Spiderman cards played. I will not play with or against TMNT cards either.
>>97600140I'm here for Lorwyn, I don't like Strixhaven as a setting but I'll give it a chance, and Reality Fracture is a complete unknown. So yeah, most of this year I'll be drafting older sets/cube and playing commander>>97600151To me it's very nostalgic and sovlful with a handmade and authentic quality to it
>>97600163Yes.
Does red have any way to deal with enchantments in standard?I'm trying to make a monored midrange deck and not being able to deal with enchantments really hoses me out of some games
>>97600243>Midrange >Monored>Standard Pick two
>>97600243That's a great point, man.Red should get enchantment removal. Black got it, why not red???
>>97600034I only play draft/sealed at this point. If a set looks fun to draft I'll play it, if not I won't. I played a lot of Final Fantasy and Dragons of Tarkir, played no Spiderman and almost no Aetherdrift or Lorwyn. I won't be playing any TMNT.
Has anyone made a statistical study of how much more inconsistent a hundred card deck is vs a sixty card one?Or just becks bigger than 60 in general.I want to calculate how much of a deal it really is to just shove my pet cards into a functional shell.
>>97600235How? Black Panther is more aligned with white mana color.
>>97600256>blue can deal with everything>white can deal with everything>green can deal with everythingWhy black and red should suffer?
>>97600256I know you're talking the piss, but I wouldn't mind some enchantment punishment in red, but not necessarily removal outright
>>97600273I disagree, I think he's more of a Blue for his tech and tricksiness. Also the obvious oreo thing
>>97600243yea, add white
I turned on the Standard RC they're doing for some reason. This is the worst commentary I've ever heard. One of the announcers sounds like a tranny with a lisp who breathes into the mic at the end of every sentence and speaks at about 5 words per minute.
>>97600285>Put a burn counter on every enchantment target player controls. >(Permanents with burn counters deal 1 damage to their controllers at the end of their turn)Cost it
>>976003051 phyrexian mana (red)
>>97600269Dragons of Tarkir was the best magic set last year. >>97600271Look at hypergeometric calculatorIn edh you can have as many as a singular effect you want. So the odds drawing a certain ratio of effects can be the same. The only difference is how often you will see a specific card name. Which is way more often because you get a play set. Even in 60 card you will add effects of different cards to have like 7 reanimator cards as an example.
>>97600322Truly F.I.R.E design
>>97600034>>97600190Same as this guy. I don't waste a single penny on this game, I play a format just for fun and I barely see any shitty UB cards, so I already quit and WotC can suck my dick
>>97600140Final fantasy was my first magic set I loved it.avatar was awesome too and I'm pumped for TMNT. I wasn't big on lorwyn though or spiderman. I see many older people dislike the other brands coming in but in my opinion they are cooler than the generic fantasy magic stuff.
>>97600351Begone shill
>>97600351Glad to hear you like the game. What format do you play? How much have you spent on the game?
Did all of you guys who supposedly don't play anymore keep all of your cards, or sell out?
>>97600373I had two and a half of a deck, and sold it long time ago. I still play digital though.
>>97595145very sane folx indeed
>>97600373Sold out. I still have a few, mostly because they weren't on any buylists at the time I sold out.
>>97600351>Final fantasy was my first magic set I loved it.avatar was awesome too and I'm pumped for TMNT.My only wish for you is that you actually get to live in the wasteland of soulless corporate slop that you dream of.
>>97600373Still have my cards from when Modern existed at my lgs. Mostly played ponza, rg ramp and burn. Bought them knowing I would never sell them. Last brews I made for in person play was these guys infinite combos
>>97600373
>>97600482Imagine taking this just so you can pretend you stopped playing.
>>97600482>throwing out soulful whiteborder cards because of NU wotc degeneracyHonestly, youre a faggot
>>97595222You're crying about not having a handsome man to talk to you about cards.
>>97600491>>97600495I haven't played since Alaratoo busy designing my own games nowmuch more enjoyable, too
>>97600525Changes nothingMTG was peak soul up to 2007 White border ACTUALLY looks much better on cards than black one.You can hate NU mtg as much as you want but those cards didnt do anything bad to you.Now peak them up and save them as good memories when MTG was soulful fun game.
>>97600538>Now peak them up and save them as good memories when MTG was soulful fun game.I had to move on from this game, and throwing my old cards was a way to do itI also threw away all the issues I had of Urza Magazinethis is by far what I regret the most...
>>97600482>>97600481>>97600452Follow up question: If you sold all of your cards and don't play the game anymore why do you waste your time posting in these threads
>>97600569>If you sold all of your cards and don't play the game anymore why do you waste your time posting in these threadsIt's fun to laugh at idiots.
>>97600569>why do you waste your time posting in these threadsI enjoy watching how the game I once loved crashes and burns, and becomes something I absolutely despise
I love played Landfall and removal tribal decksI'm trans if that matters
>>97600581it's cathartic... in a sick, twisted way
>>97600586
>>97600569literally this:>>97600581Also imagine if you were in disgusting cult, with orgies, drugs, bdsm and shit. And you managed to free yourself from those horrible people. Naturally you would try to spread a word about how degenerate that cult is and how nobody should ever join it, right?
>>97600569Still play cube. Would be playing standard arena right now if lorwyn eclipsed was any good.
>>97600607>Would be playing standard arena right now if lorwyn eclipsed was any good.The more time goes on, the more I realize it really was total shit.Fuck me the limited format was ASS on top of the set being totally boring. Cool to see some of those Evoke elementals find their way into fringe decks though, I guess.
>>97600584poor baby doesn't know how to beat control
Do any of these lame franchises have the guts to give their heroes black coloration
if they make bilbo black i swear
>>97600738They will likely stick to established colors. And Aragorn doesn't appear in Hobbit.
>>97600749>They will likely stick to established colorsLiterally what fucking reasons do you have to believe this?
>>97600351This is the kind of customer the Faggots of the Coast aim for nowadays... Very sad ngl.
They should add more cards of big breasted black women with white facial features who only date white men to the game.
>>97600773I support this because black women are often nice to me.
>>97600738Bilbo was hired to be a burglar; it would be negative social credit to have a burglar of color. The city of dale is going to get the kithkin treatment.
How many BLACKED cards will be have in Hobbit set?
>>97600773This but instead of black they're an animal and instead of white facial features they're animal features
>>97600756Well because LTR is their own flavor of Middle Earth, isn't it?
>>97600829This but instead of animals they're caricatures of Mark Rosewater and they're dressed as a tranny
Dumbest MTG mechanics, GO!>the ring tempts you>commit crime>take initiative >venture into a dungeonShit is fucking retarded
>>97600882Protection from everything, protection from each color, protection from your opponents
>open an attraction
>incoherent gen z culture warrior screechingthe gathering
huh?
>>97597585>Chaos EnsuesWhy are you picking fights with a casual side format? May as well have listed contraptions and attractions.
>>97600882>Venture into the dungeonThis one was cool
StickersHow far away we are from stickers in Standard considering everything is an Unset nowadays?
>>97600882Earthbend
>>97600882counterspellsritualsreanimationbasically anything that cheats on mana
if you had to describre whats the basic pattern to describe a magic card... does it even has one now?borders used to make magic cards, magic cards, now they look like generic chinks cards
>>97600882Stickers (That being, in the context of them being Eternal legal) has to be put on a special list for simply not operating within the mechanics of the game.But the worst is Companion and nothing else comes close. It fundimentally ruined every format it was legal in and turned the entire game into a 1-card shitfest. for its entire lifespan. Remnants of Companion still vomitted their way across the formats in the form of Jegantha randomly slotting into decks by the merits of its Companion restriction being trivial.With the ? tier and X tier bad mechanics out of the way, in their own special separate categories of trash, my list would be,>#1 - MetatokensDay/night, Dungeon, Attractions etc. Lump them all together. Any mechanic that requires an entire whole ass other card to explain should, let alone THREE whole ass other cards, should have been killed before it saw the light of day. Special spot for Initiative, because it's both a Metatoken AND ungodly broken.>#2 - Phyrexian ManaAnd any other mechanics that cheat the game's resource system.>#3 - Game state stagnatorsBuyback, Splice, Retrace etc. Basically, any mechanic that devolves games into "Repeat this one action until you win. Epic is the worst failure among these.
>>97600969Good morning saar
>>97600974OY PIGGY PIGGY YOUR SLOP IS READY
>>97600966
>>97600993Cope all you want, you know it's true that the game was doomed from the moment they decided that cheating shit out would be a supported and competitive gameplay strategy.
>>97601010Show and Tell came out in Urza's Saga. Animate Dead came out in Alpha.
>>97601010Ramp also cheats on mana. How is this okay but spell ramp and recursion are bad. Hating counterspells is like hating the game, go play pokemon
>>97601038It's easier to control the amount of mana you get from mere ramp (1) than it is from reanimate/cheating (Effectively infinite, capped only by CMC of the cheated spell)
>>97601026Yes, and well all know those were famously well balanced sets.>>97601038Ramp is accelerating mana, which is much weaker. Also, noncreature based ramp should've never been allowed, bolting the bird doesn't work if there's no bird to bolt.
>>97600034None. I'm not as enfranchised as you.
>>97601057and we all know*
>>97601057You're the one who said Magic was doomed when the deiced that cheating shit out and reanimating shit would be supported.
>>97601068Yes, it was doomed from the beginning. That is what I'm saying.
>>97600243Here you go friend.
>>97597248This list does a massive disservice to the rest of the Captains to imply that Burnham is even in their league. Yes, including the literal child with a stolen space ship.
>>97601095>This list does a massive disservice to the rest of the Captains to imply that Burnham is even in their league.Good point. All the other captains will be EDH precon commanders.Burnham will be the standerd-legal meta slayer!
>>97600243This is currently the cheapest option.
I am a turtle and I eat 'zza
>>97600882The rules text "can't".
I am a 'tle and I eat pi'
>>97600275Red got Chaos Warp and Wild Magic SurgeBlack has no human rights because it has Thoughtseize.
>>97600882landfall
Are there any noteworthy archetypes that would actually merit the description "food deck" rather than just a deck that makes some use of food tokens?
>>97601271This guy in an edh. You could 100% fill the 99 with only food related cards.
>>97601271Yes, you just have to care about sacrifice, life gain, artifacts, tokens, or the food card type.
>>97601271https://mtgdecks.net/Pauper/food-storm-decklist-by-lambo89-2779190
>>97594585Alright so there’s this guy that I really like. Very kind, handsome and gives me the best compliments. He invited me to play Magic with him yesterday and I went.I watched and studied for the first round, like we were whispering to eachother and he taught me a few things. Then the second round we got to play together, but it was me and him as one player vs. all his guys.I learned some stuff, but it had to get cut short because he had to get home for work etc. he said he’ll build me a deck and we’re having another get together to play in 2 weeks, so I’m gonna try to impress him by studying as much as I can and show him I know my stuff!
>>97601406What is your biological gender?
How we can make this game great again?
>>97601450kill blue
>>97601450Kill everyone at hasbro and wizards.Now I'm on a list
>>976014504 standard sets a year, 1 supplemental set per year. No UB. There, I fixed it.
>>97601450Bomb Hasbro HQ.Go back to blocks.UB out, no more products, banned in all formats and a serious compromise of never do that shit again and everyone enjoying or buying that shit right now should be banned from this game immediately.MaRo and his team of clowns fired.Reserved list killed.EDH and Magic are two different games, design policies will be different for each.Never again "No changes"B&R problematic cards will be deal with accordingly.Blue and Red nerfed the ground.Just a dream but still will be nice.
>>97600275>white can deal with everythingWhite can’t win the game
>>97601514Adding to this, stop designing 75% of all cards in standard sets for EDH. If they could do those three things the game would be fine.
>>97601450It would be controversial but if they returned to the old aesthetic of babes and badass art then I'd be very happy.
>>97601600>that glorious artI WANT TO GO BACK
>>97601600Is true that you don't know what you've got till it's gone... before we had that now we pic related. SAD.
>>97601450We need to deploy the final solution
>>97601600What caused Magic to move away from depicting hot women on cards? More gays and trannies playing the game?
>>97600882All of them except combat keywords and kicker
>>97601652No, the player audience is still exactly the same. But most big corpos went through this period of advertising themselves as progressive and they started hiring really demented people who proceed to hire more people like themselves.
>>97600034Based streamer not indulging in hypothetical what-ifs from schizo chat. If someone asked me what expansion to the game I stream would cause me to quit, Id say none.
>>97600034i dont buy or play magic anymore, im just here to watch the trainwreck at laugh at it
I wish I was just a brain dead imbecile so I could just collect Pokemon
>>97601450kill all commander hogs
>>97601709imagine having shit like this saved on your harddrive and crying about it for years.talk about demented.
>>97600328I really wanted to make that work in Pauper. Tarkir: Dragon Storm (TDS) was my favorite set of 2025
>>97601820>noooo you must forget all the evil we did!
>>97601843They managed to work in a negro fucking a white woman in a gay men art. I honestly think people who do this stuff should be put in prison and tortured within inches of their death
how is possible we have such huge shills here of all places? what compels a human being to suck corpo balls this hard?
>>97601820>imagine having shit like this saved on your harddrive and crying about it for years.It's called accountability, and it is a good thing to make sure others abide by it.
We should make our own sets instead of relying on WotC
>>97601843This makes me mad. OG Bearscape is one of my favorite pieces of Magic art.
>>97601820>saved on your hard driveDumb nigga never heard of basic googling beforeI don't save any image on my hard drive.
>draft a deck with legendary creatures>opponent has Karakas>loseKarakas is a top 10 card in Cube, including Power Nineabsolute bullshit
>>97601820>saved on your harddriveCringe retard thinks it's 1995Bitch we've been using SSDs for years now.
>>97601820based book burner
>harddrive full of fat blacks and twitter postsGen Z is cooked fr
>>97601964>frALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST
They keep trying to push standard as being so diverse, but half of the decks are just the same deck with slightly different variations. There's like 3 flavors of izzet decks, three flavors of cub decks and two flavors of Spiderman decks.
it literally shows up when you search for fat knowledge I bet some of you boomers also save porn on your PC
>>97601979>They keep trying to push standard as being so diverse, but half of the decks are just the same deck with slightly different variations. There's like 3 flavors of izzet decks, three flavors of cub decks and two flavors of Spiderman decks.I have said it before many times.I will say it again.A FORMAT BEING DIVERSE DOES NOT MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE.A FORMAT HAVING GOOD GAMEPLAY IS WHAT MAKES IT ACCEPTABLE.A META WITH 10 RELATIVELY EVENLY BALANCED TOP DECKS THAT AL;L SUCK ASS TO PLAY IS A FAILUREMoreover, five decks is not diverse. Peak Modern had literally 100s of declists, and many fringe decklists were clean silver bulelts with 90+ percent winrates against specific top meta decks.A format is not diverse when the top 10 decks are balanced against each other.A format is diverse when the bottom 100 decks can compete with the top 10.
>>97601652Tolerance crowd and women won over WotC and now they're incredibly intolerant of anything that caters to the typical heterosexual male nerd
>>97602078>Tolerance crowd and women won over WotC and now they're incredibly intolerant of anything that caters to the typical heterosexual male nerdAlways remember,>"This is for everyone!"means NOT YOU.
after hearing more about jeets suddenly Kaladesh' name change made a lot more sense
>>97601652>More gays and trannies playing the game?and more gays and trannies making the game, hot babes is white supremacy and the patriarchy
>>97601296>>97601331>>97601383Neat, thanks
>>97601406That's pretty gay....but you sound cute so I guess that's ok...;)
>>97601995You're mostly correct, but standard doesn't have the card pool to support 100 diverse decks.
>>97602147>You're mostly correct, but standard doesn't have the card pool to support 100 diverse decks.Standard has 3981 cards right now. 3737 nonland.A deck needs ~15 nonland cards to function across its maindeck and sideboard.The current Standard could support 249 entirely different archetypes, if its card pool were properly distributed.
>>97602158Sure, if you ignore the fact that 70-80% of those cards are draft chaff that are unplayable in any format outside of limited.
>>97602165>Sure, if you ignore the fact that 70-80% of those cards are draft chaff that are unplayable in any format outside of limited.They don't have to be, anon. If rares were properly balanced (As they should be: Simply more complex than commons, not strictly better than them) this would not be an issue.249 is a bit ridiculous, but even given that most cards are "draft chaff", every draft environment has ~250 viable cards. That's easily enough for 25 separate 40-card archetypes. Hell, just using a paltry 10 archetypes per set, the current bloated Standard card pool could easily support 70 different archetypes.
>>97601981so this is what gen Z considers porndisgusting
They finished this cycle?
>>97602165>constructoids only get to play with 5% of Magic cards>they don't even get to choose which ones, other people make their decks for themLimitedgods stay winning
>>97601925sovl
Seriously pondering the situation, with a properly-sized standard (8 sets at its largest), a properly designed and maintained Standard could easily support 100 different decks.Given that ideals are often unobtainable, I'd say to reasonably consider Standard healthy in the diversity front, it would need ~30 different archetypes at its largest (8 sets) and maybe 15-20 at its smallest (5 sets)Given Standard is rocketing up to 14 sets soon, calling it "diverse" would be unacceptable with anything short of 40-50 different competitive archetypes.
>>97602201Does it look like it?
>>97602220I suppose a colorless card is possible.
>>97602185Anon, with that many archetypes you'll end up with so much overlap and redundancy that it'll be pointless.
>>97601925That's why they had to ruin it. To anger the chuds. The old artwork might have been a bit janky sometimes but it actually had sovl. Fuck modern WoTC I wish I could quit them.
>>97602228closest option at the moment
>>97602232>Anon, with that many archetypes you'll end up with so much overlap and redundancy that it'll be pointless.Yes and no. The overlap would mostly be in generic cards, removal and sideboard tech largely. Even if you have one (1) archetype for every color and two-color combo, that's already 15 decks which is almost an order of magnitude more than current Standard has (Gx Badgermole, Izzet Spellslop and Dimir cover basically the entire format. Wx Voice of Victory and Reanimator slop fill in the rear. So Standard has maybe six decks, if you're generous, right now.)AT THE VERY LEAST, the claim that 15 different archetypes is a reasonable bare minimum to call a format diverse.
Fuck it, let's set the record straight right now.Not every Standard will have every color combo being competitive. Sure, so drop a few.If a Standard format does not have 12 different competitive archetypes (Fully unique. GU Badgermole and G Badgermole are NOT different archetypes) then no claim can be made for it being diverse.
>>97602290>If a Standard format does not have 12 different competitive archetypes (Fully unique. GU Badgermole and G Badgermole are NOT different archetypes) then no claim can be made for it being diverse.Can you name a single time in the history of the game this has happened?
>>97602304Yes, Standard has never been diverse.
>>97602304>Can you name a single time in the history of the game this has happened?The CHK/RGD/TSP run immediately comes to mind.
>>97602304>Can you name a single time in the history of the game this has happened?Not relevant.
>>97602343>setting unreasonable expectations for a card game isn't relevantokay
>>97602304some time before the 2010s I think
>>97602383>unreasonableA minimum of 30 is reasonable.12 is positively achievable.
>>97602248>>97602228This guy works also while being in black border
>>97601450You can't. You just can't.
>>97602304Post-Affinity Standard was pretty diverse I think.
>>9760239712 unique archetypes is reasonable. 30 is not.
>>97602431>12 unique archetypes is reasonable. 30 is not.30 is perfectly reasonable. Standard has over 2000 cards. A deck needs MAYBE 15 cards.100 would be reasonable, in fact.
>>97602331>>97602392>>97602420Go ahead and list what you think are the 12 competitive archetypes there lol
>>976024411. your momguess what number 2 isI'll give you a hint it's your mom
>>97602397>>97602440>bro why doesn't this game have 200 playable characters? you could easily fit that many on the screen!
>>97602441>Go ahead and list what you think are the 12 competitive archetypes there lolGhazi-Glare Selesnya Loxodon midrange and Zoo (separate decks entirely)Gruul Solifuge aggroGreater goodHeartbeatBR Hand of CrueltyOrzhov Ghost DaddyMagnivoreA shitton of 3c goodstuff pilesUB DralnuDragonstormGolgari ratsFiremane controlOwling MineSnakes
>>97602440Random commons and uncommons that are 3/3 and gain you a life when they enter are not going to be playable outside of limited. If you want to argue that they should change how they design standard sets to make more cards playable outside of limited, you may have a point. Right now you don't.
>>97602458>Orzhov Ghost DaddyFuck me that deck was SO FUCKING BASED
>>97602458>Dragonstormkino
>>97602462>Random commons and uncommons that are 3/3 and gain you a life when they enter are not going to be playable outside of limited. If you want to argue that they should change how they design standard sets to make more cards playable outside of limited, you may have a point.Yes I think that is a perfectly reasonable companion assertion to the point I am trying to make.A (real, not Play Booster) set has ~100 commons. It would be perfectly easy for 10 of them to be archetype-targeted heavy hitters. Yes, you'll have a bunch of generic draft chaff, always will, but ~20-30 pieces of generic mid-tier interaction and french vanillas doesn't stop the remaining 80 slots from being unique.
If you want to play kitchen table card piles load up Arena and play unranked standard, plenty of derp ass people rolling with jank. If you want unoptimized decks in actual competitive you are stupid as fuck and should just be playing limited
>>97602441>>97602458To add some more from the top of my head,Dredgerock (The Rock, but with Dredge)Arcane Loam Myojin controlFungus Fire
That anon asking for archetypes from Ravnica Standard shut up pretty quick, damn.
It's fundamentally impossible to get 10+ unique competitive archetypes in the internet era because we have so much data that the strongest decks are found almost immediately every set.
>>97602248>>97602402No, like this.I mean the colorless mana symbol.
A Standard without White is never diverse and it hasn’t been since FIRE design. I hate the continuous kikety 4 color Standard.
My current working conspiracy is that WotC artists are being told to create shit art that looks like it was generated from AI, so that way they can use AI in the future more obviously once the retard whales are used to something that looks like it. A lot of the TMNT art looks very fucking bad and weird, even outside of being UB slop. The very weird way they are illustrating cheese on all the cards makes me think this.
>>97602458>he really tried to sneak in dralnu and greater good as if they were competitive Standard decksWhat the fuck is golgari rats either?
It's crazy how the "Diversity" we think of nowadays is>These two decks are different because they're all blue midrange but one is Dimir and the other is Golgari.But in the past it was>These two decks are diverse because one is the Pickles morph land lock combo and the other is hardcasting MyojinHow have things gotten this bad?
>>97602523MTG art has been on the upswing for years now, you know nothing about this game or art in general.5-10 years ago was the era where everything looked like the same monotonous digital dogshit
>>97602523I'm convinced they paid some artists to put their name on it when it's just AI slop.
>>97602542This is the correct take or they just take mega cheap artists that use AI and do small edits over it to make it less obvious.
>>97602523I’m 100% convinced the pizza lands are ai “assisted”, and to think people were sperging out about that Toph card
>>97602532it is nice to see some of the old artists come back
>>97602526>How have things gotten this bad?Hopefully this is a half-joke, because this was inevitably going to happen with 15-20 sets in rotation constantly. When there are this many cards in standard, decks often devolve into either goodstuff piles that are centered around the most broken cards legal or decks with the fastest and most-consistent combos.
>>97602523They are being told to draw awful art. They use terms like heavy set badass to describe kinan. Character races are direct orders from the art director. All the off race kithkin were the direct result of the art director. We haven't had any artists leaking their design prompts recently. Look in the way back machine to around early 2020's to find summaries of art design prompts and how magic art is a massive virtue signal.
>>97602579>Hopefully this is a half-joke, because this was inevitably going to happen with 15-20 sets in rotation constantly. When there are this many cards in standard, decks often devolve into either goodstuff piles that are centered around the most broken cards legal or decks with the fastest and most-consistent combos.It is a universal trend of complex systems that the more available resources, the lower the diversity of output.
>>97602458>Critical Mass not on listShameful. Today, we will show them the power of a 3-mana 3/3.
Pauper has 12+ viable archetypes. Why aren't you playing pauper?
>>97602646Because anons don't actually want to play a balanced format, they want to play their pet decks.
Found it. Magic is lame and gay on purpose. I need to get off the internet
>>97602696>Found it. Magic is lame and gay on purposeLol, lmao even. Did you think it was by accident? Did they all just go insane and blind? Fucking retard. Of course it's on purpose. They even say it's on purpose to be inclusive or diverse or whatever the fuck.
>>97602674Many such cases.
I wonder if Casey Jones has any merit in Ruby Storm lists as a 2 mana draw 3
>>97602713>I wonder if Casey Jones has any merit in Ruby Storm lists as a 2 mana draw 3
>>97602696There are ways to make fat people look cool and badass, just look at sumo and pro wrestling. The way that they did it does not make him look "badass"
>>97597494>>97597508Some anon predicted the tmnt set 5 years ago
>>97602519As a rule none of the other morphlings have overlapping abilities aside from the p/t switching. flying, trample, and indestructible are already used. I'd do "target creature can't block it this turn", double strike, and blink. Or something like that.But yeah cool idea
made it look better
>>97597494>white red headShe was never making it to cardboard with that design. Nobody does white red heads anymore. That's not allowed. She was always going to be black.
>people already theorycrafting with pizza slop tmntthis is truly over.
I found out about this Darksteel Colossus art just now and I thought it was pretty cool, that is all.
>>97602805why does it literally have :) as a face
>>97602819Because he is about to grab you and make a new friend.
>>97601820>Why do you have the murderer's confession note saved to your HDD, anon?
>>97602523They are just working with subpar artist with strict guidelines from both wotc and nickelodeon.
I am not even asking for titcows or giant assesI just want art to be good again
>>97602909It is good.
>>97602909>not asking for giant asses>posts best thighs in MTG
>>97602805I have no idea about it either. Haven't been paying attention to new stuff coming out in this shit game, only what people post here.
>>97602909>I don't want coomshit, I just want a girl who wears only half a tablecloth
Thread cuck make a new thread, we reached the image limit
Let it die.
>>97602909>ECL uses handmade art as a selling point instead of a universal standard worth striving forI wish we could always have good things.
>>97602987MTG has a billion-dollar budget. It should unironically have its own world-class traditional oil painting art house.
>>97602995No, we need to vet the artists to make sure they support the LGBTQIA+ movement and don’t do anything outside of the Leftist approved zeitgeist. Because Magic is for everyone.
>>97603026>Because Magic is for everyone.Which, of course, means NOT YOU.
>>97603026Magic has to represent every single person, nation, culture, sexuality, skin color. Except of course white straight men. Because they've had 10,000 years of rule so obviously every single one of them is rich, powerful, and has made it. So they get NOTHING. We're all equal but some are just more equal than others.
>>97600373I downsized my collection substantially. I went to the LGS and traded in the good cards from my collection for cash in one big transaction. (I got $900). My cheap bulk cards got donated, and some trashed. After my downsizing, I still have a dozen commander decks (a Stanley case full, plus a bit more). The cards I have are all in assembled decks, I have no loose Magic cards anymore.>>97600034Already happened, with Spiderman. Seeing Spiderman spoilers is what made me pull the trigger on selling my collection. (MH3 was the set that made me stop being an active player before that).
>>97602717>>97602696Unironically, he looks like he's got down syndrome. Everything about him is just repulsive
>>97602717There is absolutely nothing is cool about dude who weights as much as 3 average guys.Stop eating like a pig!
Do you guys think "noggle" is racial slur in Lorwyn?It sounds like one.
>>97603172They do tend to be thieves and bandits.
>>97603172Everything is a racial slur if you shout it aggressively enough.
>>97603211>FUCKING HUMANSReally doesn't work
>>97603229>Really doesn't workYeah, you're a human bro.You can't slur yourself.
>>97603211Nah, you def need "gg" in the middle of a word to make it proper racial slur
>>97603229>t. humie
>>97602975>>97603261>>97603261New thread, migrate
>>97601843> blond on the left had too [sic] surgeryWtf this card was actually heterosexual the whole time!?!?
>>97602838I love how there are people with a wide variety of complaints about these sets, and Mark Rosewater has such an easy time singling out the people specifically complaining that there's a tranny on one of the cards to discredit everyone.
>>97601981Since we're on autosage, after the sequential cloudflare and aws outages only a few months ago I think that saving a little smut locally is a pragnatic move.
no new thread, is kowabungover
