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>>97604939https://imgchest.com/p/xny82bpjwybOm Nom Nom https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97596573/#97601257Spellblade https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97596573/#97600413Elf Shoemaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97596573/#97600415Pathfinder https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97596573/#97600420Fighter https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97596573/#97600518Light Mage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97596573/#97601046
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>>97604939Does the god from Unlocked Falna disappearing mean that they went else where or literally do not exist anymore? If it is the former, if they die, then your falna still locks, right?
>>97604946Glutton or Realis Phrase?
>>97604988Neither. Become level 6 to wring out all the benefits from falna and forget about advancing it. Forge a new path.
>>97604988Probably Realis phrase having a higher level beats having a wider variety of skills.
>>97604985I'd recommend asking on reddit so he'll definetly see it.
>>97605010That sounds like a very good way to die of old age.
Rake status?
>>97604988Glutton, doesn't rely on you being super motivated and has more versatility.
>>97604985For all intents and purposes they went elsewhere, so your falna never locks. However it's cyoa-guaranteed that they'd never be found or go back to heaven.
>>97604939Can Sixth Sense sense internal structures? I'm thinking of using it to craft super well.
>>97605087It can
>>97604939Is this worth playing if I dropped the anime during season 2?
>>97604939With Glutton, what influences the skills you eat from eating stuff? Can you control it?
>>97604956when did this come out?
>>97604946>jobs to BellI don't even need to read them, I can sense it
>>97605277I'm afraid you're only sensing your own weakness.
>>97605277Damn you such a jobber you can't even imagine defeating a level 1 Bell as a level 5, that's a real skill issue
>>97604956>>97602588This author really needs to come here to announce his OC instead of doing in the wrong thread.The multiplayer general doesn't play CYOAs properly like we do, they only like to larp/erp with each other.
>>97605283>I'm afraidYou should be
>>97605326> Can't read more than two wordsThe education system has failed you.
>>97605172The materials you eat would generally dictate the skills you get. So say you eat some armor that offers fire immunity, then once you check your skills you see you developed some minor fire resistance. Then you could find more fire-immunity gear to eat that would slowly enhance that skill. Similarly eating monsters or adventurers would give you skills in-line with the abilities they used when alive, and finding more people/monsters in that vein would then develop those skills.As a general note on Glutton, the conversion rate is really bad. It's meant to be the ultimate long-term capstone, and benefits from builds that can pump a lot of time and resources into it without ending up poor and underequipped for the dungeon. Supporters, tamers, businessmen, people with wealthy gods and so on tend to benefit the most, while go-fast skills like realis phrase have horrible synergy.
>>97605344> Supporters, tamers, businessmen, people with wealthy gods and so on tend to benefit the most, Om nom nom keeps winning.
>>97605257Yesterday
>>97604956>eccentric brilliance>picture of elongated muskratkek, I can tell if this is a joke or if the author is serious.
>>97605478Oh wait its billionaire. Never mind I have dyslexia.
>>97605344harbinger 2 ever?
>>97605478>elongated muskrat>ratmachiIts rats all the way down.
WhyWHY was it updated FUCKYOUUUUUU
Is the Danmachi fag the author? I bet he isHe couldn’t shut up about it because he was working on it
>>97605569You'll get your cyoa posted and like it
>>97605540Some rats are better than others.
And yesI’m fucking madI wasn’t even looking at cyoag for the past two days And I come back to this shitFuck offWhy can’t you shit covered faggots make something actually original for onceNot this slop faggotry I’m serious fuck you
>>97605577Crazy how much 1 schizo can ruin an authors rep this badly
shut up tok
All franchise slop can get axed All of itALL OF ITAbsolutely none of it is worthwhile
>>97605577Apparently not. When asked how he felt about the danmarat, he said that he disliked him and would prefer he stopped.
The author literally cannot be trustedI bet he even made it HARDER to be the strongest (I’m serious the amount of no fun allowed in his cyoas is unreal) He can’t balance for shitHe should cry himself to sleep it’s so bad
Why's he having a meltie now?
>>97605598He’s a liar; you think the Gil fag isn’t Gil either? LMAO you are so fucking stupid This general has been damaged beyond repair due to the ritual posters It’s ALL bad
>>97605600schizos work in mysterious ways.
>>97605600You think I’m wrong? You are a fucking idiotic freak
Is it time for a new schizo already?
>>97605604Nice try danmarat. Next time try to make it less obvious that's its you.
>>97604939damn inflation has to be crazy if 1 million is the average yearly salary
>>97605610What’s schizoprenbic about being aware of patterns?The timing is too convenient you fucktardActually killyourself
>>97605611You probably made a build already and you’re calling ME the rat? LOOOOL
Danmarat is trying to play both teams I see. He's truly is a rat.
Get rid of ritual posters and this general could heal btw You’re all closer to a cult now
pick 1you become the strongest but it feels like you have stuck your cock into a blender, you can never get used to this pain nor diminish it in any capacityor you can never win a fight again but you never need to shit or piss again
No refutations? Wow. It’s almost like I’m right once again.
>>97605627I use my meta-rights and make the person making this offer into a bimbo waifu then fuck him silly. Thank you.
Without Tokposting, without Gilposting, without Discord celebrity gossip, without Aro simping, without Aro hating, without all of that stuff, we would be soulless. Not sure about the rat though. That thing can get thrown into a toilet and flushed.
>>97605643No it’s all bad lol; you can bump threads without resorting to literal fucking cancer
>>97605627option 2I'd kill myself soon if I picked option 1. And being the strongest means what, that you can win weight lifting contests? There's not that much to be done with just strength.
>CYOA assumes I want to throw myself into combat constantlyI quite like living and quite dislike hurting others so I won't be playing your CYOA
>>97605648But it’s not all bad. We bond over our shared hatred of Tok. We have done so for years.
>>97604939The worst part about the update is that he didn’t nerf the shit that needed to be nerfed.
>>97604939>not a single god buildIt writes itself.
>>97604988realis phrase is most OP when the holder has shone levels of willpower, even with the boost of human we don't have even half of that.glutton on the other hand can be used by anyone.
>>97605612If you consider that it's based on Japanese money, it makes sense.
>>97605678Metamagic is still busted. Spirit Fire is still busted. This combination is still busted.
Nobody can even refute the fact that the cyoa is garbage because all franchise slop is certified garbage lmao; you’ve become blind to slop the same way you’ve become blind to your own stink you stinky motherfucker
>>97605698>Metamagic is still bustedSeriously. You don’t need to buy any spells more expensive than 2pts since you can just turn them into tier 3 status. They may even be better overall.
>>97604988Realis Phrase is for picrel.
>>97605585>Why can’t you shit covered faggots make something actually original for onceHe did. Harbinger and Mythic Lands.
>>97605683>even with the boost of human we don't have even half of that.cuck your own adventure
I see an option to be like Zald. Where’s the option to be like Alfia? The true strongest character.
>>97605585>And yes>I’m fucking mad>I wasn’t even looking at cyoag for the past two days>And I come back to this shit>Fuck off>Why can’t you shit covered faggots make something actually original for once>Not this slop faggotry>I’m serious fuck you
>>97605729Uninspired capeslop and artificially forced balanced “nooo martials have to just as good as wizards nooo” Dee en Dee slop
Bell Cranel is for molestation. The entire setting appears to agree with me.
>>97605748Hating rats is based though
>>97605762Do not. Do not touch the Rabbit’s Foot.
>>97605762Molestratchi...
>>97605753matterjeeta...
>>97604939Squeeek!
>>97605899omg dood its so cute I want one
>>97605788Rats make awesome pets.
>playing vidya with frens>hear squeaks over team speak>”the fuck is that?”>”don’t worry about it”>keep hearing it>”ok seriously what the fuck is that”>”don’t worry about it”>keep hearing it
>>97604939Is it better to invest in level-ups or take scaling abilities with the understanding that leveling up is assumed given the setting?
>>97605969That’s just me feeding pinkies to my big boi monitor lizard ^-^
>>97605980Do you want to court death? If yes, start at level 1. If not, start at level 6 and forget about leveling.
>>97605980The level ups that you buy with points give you free super high stats across the board. You can technically get higher stats by leveling manually but you would need to go into super grind mode to get better than 1000 in everything.
>>97605980Skills are the highest priority. You want as many development abilities as levels, but it's only worth buying more of the former if it's a super rare ability like mystery.
>>97606038Nta but now you can break the balance of the setting by having all your development abilities at a higher rank than what they should be. The author said so last thread, that the abilities you buy all start at high rank and keep ranking up instead of having to choose an order for them.
>>97606021How high exactly is 1000 in every stat, comparatively?
>>97606055By using the same grading system as skills and stuff it would be S rank in everything. Normal people can only get to 999 in every stat before leveling up, but the player can go over that.
>>97606006>>97606021>>97606038>>97606050It seems really weird the author incentivizes you to skip what seems to be the entire point, which is leveling through the dungeon. Usually a cyoa would provide a skip at a higher cost, but allow a player to take the long journey for a reward which I personally find more engaging.
>>97605598How much do you want to bet that he wouldn’t have even updated it had it not been for the rat
>>97606070You can get some really strong skills, and a fat 1.5x exp multiplier, so you don't actually need to buy levels. The exp multiplier is pretty fucking big on its own, to be honest.
>>97604988Why wouldn’t you get both
>>97606089It costs 40 points to get both.
>>97606081You can actually get something like 1.9 or 2.1 if you get the right Familia bonuses with a custom god, and let's be real, you have no reason to not get a custom god. Even more if you spend like 2 points in recruits or alliances you can get the double learning speed too, which should stack with the stat boosts, so you get a X4.2
Hermes will molest Bell before Hestia gets the chance to lul
>>97606094Seems worth, desu. I mean, given the setting you’re going to level up anyway. Logically, you’d also be sought after by both gods and companions due to your sheer growth and prowess. So why spend points on things you can naturally gain when you can spend points on innate growth options that can’t be replicated?
>>97606089See: >>97605344> As a general note on Glutton, the conversion rate is really bad. It's meant to be the ultimate long-term capstone, and benefits from builds that can pump a lot of time and resources into it without ending up poor and underequipped for the dungeon. Supporters, tamers, businessmen, people with wealthy gods and so on tend to benefit the most, while go-fast skills like realis phrase have horrible synergy.
>>97606070> Usually a cyoa would provide a skip at a higher cost, but allow a player to take the long journey for a reward which I personally find more engaging.The reward is not having to spend a bunch of points on levelling.
>>97604939Is Realis Phrase the win button in this cyoa
>>97606133Not anymore. Glutton is the new hotness.
>>97604939The power system of this world is basically shooting yourself in the head and advancing if you don't die. Utter madness. This world needs a better power system, and I will create it.This endeavor will need many people to help test out theories, provide data, find materials, etc. The beginning will be difficult, but the potential of a new path, one that isn't suicidal, ought to receive everyone's support. I predict that initial success with be achieved within a century.I chose alchemy as the main field in which the power system will be based on because:1. Accessibility: it typically doesn't require gods, spirits, and other conditions that can only be fulfilled by a tiny amount of people.2. Versatility: practically anything is possible with the right methods and materials.3. Replicability: anyone can learn alchemy, and materials can be refound or recreated.The power system will be based on paths, like "Fire Mage", "Dragon Warrior", "Shadow Assassin", and so on. Each will have a gradual progression of gaining synergistic powers and enhancing relevant aspects, but also a set of alchemy recipes, training regimes, and possibly other requirements. Some will be compatible with each other, some won't. All should be compatible with falna because falna is technically just a buff from being connected to a god that can be removed or added at any time to anything. On the topic of falna, to not be dependent on gods is another reason for creating the power system.As soon as I can, I will spread a number of the first few levels of the easiest and highest compatibility paths for free! Everyone will have the opportunity to embark on the path of power! Those with ambition will come to Orario for greater methods and necessary materials. The overall power of the world will greatly increase, and there will be many more adventurers in the battle against the dungeon.>Path:Adventurer>Race:ElfFor congenital magic, as opposed to the acquired magic based on falna.
>>97606151>Scenarios:Early Start (Max), MultiplayerThere are surely many materials 1000 years ago that can't be found anymore in the present, and the power system must be created as soon as possible.>Equipment:Grimoire (Transmute)>Level:6>Development Abilities:D: Smithing, Mixer, Mage, Luck, Mystery>Skills:Nature's Forge, Sixth Sense, Metamagic>Familia:Unlocked FalnaJoin Zeus.
>>97606112>>97606119>>97606133>>97606143Glutton is the isekai slow life skill, "While everyone rushes to clear the dungeon I got too OP just by eating and living the good life". Relis Phrase is the speedrunner skill, "I beat the dungeon at level 1 because I wanted to go really fast and now I don't know what to do anymore."
>>97606151>reinventing LOTMalso wouldn't it make more sense to just be a craftsman God at this point?
>How much do you want to bet that he wouldn’t have even updated it had it not been for the rat…
>>97606172>reinventing LOTMBruh, I made the build long before the LOTM WIP existed.>wouldn't it make more sense to just be a craftsman God at this point?Pretty sure adventurers with crafting abilities surpass crafting gods who sealed their own power. There's that one character with Mystery who made a philosopher's stone at level 4.
>>97606218Don’t empower him.
>>97606226>Bruh, I made the build long before the LOTM WIP existed.is joke> Pretty sure adventurers with crafting abilities surpass crafting gods who sealed their own power. There's that one character with Mystery who made a philosopher's stone at level 4.Yeah but if you were a god that stuff would be natural so you could actually spread the knowledge instead of everyone being dependent on you. Also you could get skills like Survival and Scheming at rank 3.
>>97606172>Not getting your own personal crafting god custom waifu to have both.Weak and unoptimal.>>97606226>long before the LOTM WIP existed.And LOTM existed since long before tank decided to make a cyoa out of it. But it seems mostly a joke. If it makes you feel any better your system seems way better than LOTM, at the very least because it doesn't lock multiple people out of pursuing the same path.
>>97606231But it’s probably true lmao
>>97606119Oh good we’re doing the thing where the author didn’t bother to put pertinent details in the fucking cyoa
>>97606119Is that even true? Wouldn’t it be better to get strong fast so you can get deeper into the dungeon to find better shit to consume or make enough income to support consumption? Additionally, it give you the strength to quickly and safely clear floors so you can consume the leftovers. They may not directly synergize, but it seems like a self-sufficient way to support another method of gaining strength.
>>97606246>is jokeAh, alright.>if you were a god that stuff would be naturalNatural doesn't really mean anything for difficulty when comparing to magic when things like this is what craft gods can create:https://danmachi.fandom.com/wiki/Hephaestus>Master Smith: As a Goddess of Smithing, Hephaestus is a divine master smith at it. She was able to smith the Hestia Knife, a living weapon with Hestia's falna, even without her arcanum.No way that's purely natural. There has to be some of her innate craft god power in play.>everyone being dependent on youEh, I will teach people my techniques and derive lesser versions to lower the difficulty.
>>97606361> No way that's purely natural. There has to be some of her innate craft god power in play.Arcanum IS the god's power.> Eh, I will teach people my techniques and derive lesser versions to lower the difficulty.But surely even those would be dependent on the skills derived from your falna, ala worm tinkers, no?
>>97606361>No way that's purely natural. There has to be some of her innate craft god power in play.Nah, its "natural". Its just that skill is a mystical force that lets you do the impossible in japslop and chinkslop settings
Define “natural”
>>97606414Falna is technically just unlocking potential. Anything you can obtain with falna, you can technically obtain without it. The process will just be much much harder.
>>97606457huh. very well then.
>>97606457So what you're saying is that it's entirely possible for falnaless spellcasting to catch up and be as good as falna spellcasting if the mortals just locked the fuck in?
>>97606476If their talent is good enough. Their talent is not good enough in 99.9...% of cases.
>>97606505I could do it, trust.
Reminder that greater spirits are basically permanent level 6/8s that can lend themselves to people, even in the form of blood transfusions. This is why Welf, a level two, can dish out level 6~ levels of magic using his spirit blood. Falna won’t give you as much of a boost but it DOES have higher potential, as it is essentially focusing on yourself, with the help of the gods, since only the gods can allow such potential to take place. Divine intervention in the form of EXP. In theory the gods could just level you to level 10 instantly but the implication is that they are following the rules of some esoteric game that they haven’t entirely revealed yet. The Dungeon likely has a divine origin. Perhaps some god has beef with the other gods.
>>97606535Pretty sure Albert died because his body wasn’t accustomed to a great spirit’s power, so it’s not advised to receive such boosts.
>>97606535The correct method is to pursue multiple avenues of power. Falna is too good to not be used, but relying entirely on it is a bad idea; you immediately lose all falna dependent abilities, become fish on the chopping block, when your god dies.
>>97606556So rely on a gay ass spirit instead?
>>97605537I'll get around to it one day. Probably. Eventually.>>97606341It's an option. The big reason it doesn't synergize well is because it means you'll have to levelup first without anything in the way of gear/skills/abilities/trainings/magic, which is suicidally dangerous. Then you'll have to take all the time to find and eat valuable materials anyways. There's way better configurations available imo, including buying some levelups instead of realis phrase.
>>97604939Barely know how danmachi works but why not make a harem build>Path: God (40) – why not be an immortal hedonistic fuck>Race: God>Scenario:Early Start 1000 b.c.– first mover advantageMultiplayer – why not>Training:Scheming tier 2 (32) – politics the bread and butter of a god, got to resolve all those harem politics somehow, century old plots are a staple of immortals I need it for the very important plot to fuck the virgin goddesses.Charm tier 3 (23) – mundane charms to counteract those pesky supernatural charm immunities as you need to fuck them too, having people love you is great, going to have a lots of followers for delegation besides if everyone loves you no one will “kill” you.Personal Power:Discerning Eye – reading people is great for charming them plus I need skilled employees got to pilfer them all before the other goods get to them, also for discerning who is good to fuck. (19)God of Beauty – magical charm, making a god harem is great really you can get them to fill in all the skill niches you lack, delegation and more fucking. (9)Alliance x7 (2)- if your friends with all the major players your going to be pretty safe>Familia Membersrecruit(free)recruit x2 (0)>Familia HomeAssets: 10 (7 allies + 3 recruits)Location: Entertainment (9)Hovel(Free)In-House (8)yard(7)guild contacts (6)Home (5)Restaurant (4)Forge (3)Blacksmith (2)Study (1)School (0)>Quests5 (1 + 2 * 2(10 assets))Golden Child- why wouldn’t I want my own chosen one in my pocket, going to be an elf girl for the added lifespan might live over a 1000 years with all the leveling.Legends(Scheming)- for tier 3 schemes, sounds pretty easy just going to charm the authorities.Familia Styles:Exploration Familia Rank 3- going to need all of that high level firepower.Alliances:Hestia, Loki, Freya, Hephaestus, Ishtar, Zeus, HeraRecruits: Rhea Moss- the generalDevon Baird-the smithWinnie Cattell-the mage
>>97604939I feel like I want my base adventurer to be Glutton (20)Regeneration (8)Metamagic (8)Affinity (2)Luck (4)Spell- Raise (2)1.5x to all Stats (5)Then I’ll build a custom god for myself. Seems kinda like a slow start but whatever, not like there’s a ton of points to go around vs the sheer amount of options available. I’d love to have the other spells I want, Spellthief, and a level but wcyd
>>97604939Best time to Early Start for a Glutton? Since it apparently takes a bunch of time to kick off.
>>976067721000 years ago
>>97604939AdventurerRace:Human>Elf is unneeded, as I should already be aging slow enough for it not to matterScenario:Early start>If I start at 12 and age at 1/2^level, I should have a base lifespan of 60x16= 960 years. If I level up during the first 100 of these, I should still be healthy when the plot startsElsewhere>A place currently ruled by elvesMultiplayer>Why notSkills(-19):Scheming 2 (-8)[+1]Tactics 2 (-8)Charm 1 (-3)Level up x3 (-9)>The added lifespan is crucial>I haven't maxxed this because of the luck/centurion combo, but I should get a few levels fairly quicklyDevelopmental abilities(-8):Luck (-4)Mystery (-4)>With the right tools you can do anythingSkills(-14):Duelist (-1)>This + Hidden ace to crush someone every year or soCenturion(-4)>If every level requires I risk my life, it sounds really good to have a few spares>With this and luck I might pass lvl9Brave (-4)>The people who choose god of beauty are going to be people I don't want to spend time withHidden ace (-5)>This is extremely broken with mystery. Waiting a year to make a 13x magic item is free
I really don’t understand. Why bother with a CYOA that has already been solved? You can beat literally anybody by taking Metamagic + Spirit Fire + Raise to become, more or less, a Haruhime + Ais + Riveria hybrid who can do more damage than anyone else in the setting. So what’s the point? Are you making builds just for fun or something? Why?
>>97606780Custom god:Something refinedPrincess-ishSkills(-13):Merchantry 3 (-9)>She knows her goldSchemeing 1 (-4)>And how to use it subtlyGod skills(-12):Teaching (-1)Fertility god (-1)>Setting me upAfterlife (-2)Craftsman {Poetry}(-8)People:Child x5 (-5)>An assortment of Girls with skills that help industry, like metamagic and mystery. And monster creation>Pseudo harem, mostly elvesChild (Free)>MeLocation:RemoteAssets(6):Money x3HouseStudyLabQuests:Legend schemingAcademic family>Understand magicLifestyle family>It's a cult/HaremGiven that leveling requires danger, a groups size is a core part of its powerGiven that the afterlife definitely exists, there is no particular moral difficulty in sending people to die fightingI am going to be setting up a mystery cult deep underground, with magical technology, and training as many adventurers as possibleThen, when the time is right, we will try to tame the dungeon. Leaving trail signs to indicate dangers, Hiding supply caches to help failed ventures, etc etcI should be able to grow to a high level and make some obscene magic artifacts that make this plausibleAlthough given that this is a game, my real goal should be to ascend to divinity, An I will need to do research into spirits to achieve this. Plausible stretch goal>>97604939Thoughts about the cyoa:It's alrightThe actual cyoa is fairly well made, like 7.3 out of 10, but the setting is very strange for a cyoa to work in because of the afterlifeAs a general game design goal the optimal path should be fun to go down. Here the optimal path isn't to enter the dungeon. The cyoa subverts itselfLeveling up is a strange thing to have behind a point score given that it requires risking your lifeYou effectively start with -0.4 lives per level you don't take(And you are burning youth by letting yourself age without the levels protection)
>>97606785Actually the update unsolved itThere are now better offensive options and ways to block that
>>97606785>Are you making builds just for fun or somethingYes anon. That is what we do here. Fun.
>>97606795>There are now better offensive options and ways to block thatNope. The cyoa still calls it the most destructive spell known. That puts it above literally anything in canon. Author said he made Raise (a tier 1 spell) with Ais’ Aria in mind, meaning a tier 3 Raise should be like Haruhime’s or Hedin’s spell. With Metamagic I can combine it with Spirit Fire to produce a not!Aria aura that constantly sends out flames that are impossible to resist and eats at all other elements. It would be a harder counter to Ais, for instance. Author really should have worded Metamagic a lot better.
>>97606813No~I block
>>97606813No. That’s just bullshit. You’re over doing it.
>>97606813>Spellthief
>>97606818Explicitly says it ignores elemental resistances. Going by basic logic this would include literally anything in the world. Including your muscles. >>97606827Nope. Not bullshit. Metamagic outright says I can combine spell effects. That’s just the way it is. Author is retarded.
>>97606836No <3My immunity ignores immunity resistance
>>97606835Nope. Not an elf. Lefiya doesn’t get it. It’s not hers to steal. She can get fucked. I’m even of a mind to murder her upon entry, just to keep other mages safe. Spells are to remain unique. She is a monster to be taken out.
>>97606849aww he didn't even read the update
>>97606849>murder an innocent girl because there's the smallest chance that she may make you the slightest bit less special
>>97606855>magic >not an elementI guarantee you a magic missile can be deconstructed using the modern day table of the elements
>>97606877what the fuck are you responding to?
>>97606151I will act as your hired muscle and bodyguard. All you have to do is let me fuck you.Deal?
God, don't even start this shit again. He's retarded, we all know he's retarded, let's move on.
>>97606887He’s implying that any hypothetical leech is still subject to chemistry and thus is at a loss against “this spell is not reduced by elemental resistances”, which can be translated into literally anything at all, if you’re an insufferable realist.
>>97606835How would that even work against something casual like Aria that’s basically an extension of one’s muscles? You’re flicking her wind back at her, one time, while she can flick her wind a bazillion times. What a waste of a 30 minute cooldown, guy. Laughs.jpg
Whenever you walk outside you are resisting the elements. Did you know?
Why call it ‘Spellthief’ when it’s more like spell rape? You aren’t pocketing it or anything you’re just molesting someone else’s magic.
>>97606895Nta but that's a guy,
God I hate Lefiya so much. Do not pick elf as a race. Don’t do it. She will take your shit. She only needs to see it once.
>>97606954
>>97606855The cyoa spellthief and the canon spellthief work differently. What he's implying is that unless he picks multiplayer the only person with that skill has a worse version that only works on elves.
>>97606967>The cyoa spellthief and the canon spellthief work differentlyWtf author
>>97606967Lefiya's thing is a different skill entirely.
>>97606779Is canon really that dangerous?
>>97606967>worse version She gets access to it FOR LIFE. The spellthief thing is just some gimmick skill the author of the cyoa threw in, clearly. It isn’t actually stealing a spell more than redirecting it, briefly, with a thirty minute cooldown. In theory Lefiya would only need to watch a group of ten elves to cast ten new spells. She can also HANG them on her hand, to cast them INSTANTLY, pre-cast. Hang spell bitch.
>>97606972Many things in the cyoa have the same name as canon but not the same effects. Also it's funny to see that Nature's Forge is there, cheaper than Crozzo Blood, and still better than it.
Spirit fire + raise + swarm = firebugstorm
>>97606996It doesn't even have the same name anon is just retarded
>>97606991It's still countered by not being an elf.
The author (the actual author) of Danmachi said he doesn’t want the story taking longer than a year, within the timeline, so you’re kind of stupid for not taking max level at the very start.
I’m not joking. I find Lefiya repulsive. She needs to die. Mages aren’t safe around her. She’ll violate them. Their poor magic.
>>97606990Yes. The sooner you enter, the more time you have to strengthen yourself and the world before the Promised Time, aka the apocalypse. Entering in canon time is basically suicide.
How much would the story change if my fat isekai’d ass landed on Bell and broke his neck before I even touched the ground?
>>97607018>so you’re kind of stupid for not taking max level at the very start.Or you just spawn 1000 years early. By canon time, with all the powers the build gives you, you should be at least level 10.>>97607025This is also fixed by starting early. Just spawn kill her, she doesn't have that skill before being even born now does she?
I am okay having the Loki family hunt me down for murdering worst girl too; worth it
>>97607046Unless you have Realis Phrase the world is now fucked, congratulations.
>>97606990The danmachi timeline is all fucked up. Everything relevant happened either 1,000 years ago or in the last 15 years and canon is ~1 year away from an apocalypse. Start whenever you want if you're doing multiplayer though.
>>97607060>By canon time, with all the powers the build gives you, you should be at least level 10.That is if you haven't cleared the dungeon already.
>>97607068>Everything relevant happened either 1,000 years ago or in the last 15 years and canon is ~1 year away from an apocalypse.Sometimes I forget that this is a children’s show and only now after a thousand years do the (teenaged) heroes matter…
>>97604939Being a crafter is now more viable than ever.
I like Ganesha :)
>>97604956>using same pool of point for perks, items, and followerscringe
>>97606990It's actually fine in multiplayer because builds that entered before you will carry. You won't be relevant, but hey, that's the price of not contributing.
>>97607018What do you mean? I haven’t watched all of it, only the first bit. Is there some problem with existing at the same time as the plot?
>>97607116The story takes place over the course of a single year, is the point. A very fucking wild year. It’s six months in so far. As another anon said, it’s very close to end times.
Watch the big bad apocalyptic dragon not be the real final boss. It’s some even more evil monster deeper in the dungeon. Echidna or something. Mother of monsters.
>>97607189Echidna or Tiamat aren't bad ideas for custom gods desu. I was thinking about going Coyote or Baron Samedi personally
>>97605584>>97605950Cringe>>97605982Based
>>97607549Loki hadn't descended 1000 years ago. You can't pick her.
>>97607563feck.
>>97604946updated >>97601257 > PathAdventurer> RaceElf> ScenarioEarly Start (1000 years ago)Multiplayer> TrainingSurvival 1> Stat BoostMagic> LevelsLevel Up 1> Developmental AbilitiesTamer HLuck (Future)> SkillsVoiceMetamagicMonster MakerGlutton> MagicMonster> FamiliaCanon God (Ganesha)Om nom nom. I have a bunch of monster related abilites: I can craft or modify custom monsters with tailor made abilites, tame them to sell or use as personal servants, turn into them with my spell for combat and utility (as well as other monsters I know of thanks to Survival 1) and even have the option to eat them for permanent boosts (which is especially nice since I can customise their abilities). On top of that, Metamagic opens up a bunch of possibilities for how to use my awesome spell (Hybrid monsters, partial transformations, combos with other spells I eventually learn etc), Voice allows me to command my beasts in the din of combat, Luck protects me and helps me gain the resources I need to fuel my ascent, and finally there are a few magic boosts as the cherry on the cake.Starting 1000 years before canon because I really need the time to ramp up. My abilities should make me incredibly valuable to Ganesha so I hopefully shouldn't be put in too much danger.
>>97607095I like him too now I guess.
>>97606780Based fellow Human chad.>>97605980I invested in lvlups and didn't take development abilities that surpassed my lvl because I'm not actually sure how easy/hard it is to gain levels.>>97606070>>97606131The cyoa also implies that there are some downsides to being too high a level. Coercion/strongarming by guilds/gods or some kind of high tax penalty.Don't really know anything about the franchise so I can't really say how common or severe it is.
>>97606785>So what’s the point? Are you making builds just for fun or something? Aren't you?
When are we getting more gems like this?
What authors, would you say, are especially good at balance?We often single out authors for being bad at balance, but not the other way round.
>>97607943>We often single out authors for being bad at balanceWhat? Bad balance is basically the default, so how can anyone be singled out?
>>97607941>gems
>>97607943nxtub
>>97607943ScottishAnon, ChariotAnon, Highlander, LoneObserver, LordThistlewhait and as, >>97607983 said, Nxtub all come to mind.The reason tho is that for these authors tone and themes were more important that stats so 'balance' isn't so much of a concern.
>>97608048>LoneObserver, LordThistlewhait
>>97608048>tone and themes were more important that stats so 'balance' isn't so much of a concern.Shit take and I'm glad they're gone. That's why metafags exist.
>>97607978Xartok...
>>97608048>Lone ObserverNo, LO is one of my top authors, but balance was definitely not one of his virtues. PPPP is an obvious example, but also for example the magical girl cyoa's stats.>The reason tho is that for these authors tone and themes were more important that stats so 'balance' isn't so much of a concern.I get what you're trying to say but that goes for authors who don't create situations where you'd start thinking in an optimizing mode. Personally I find, whether any sort of points are involved makes a big difference for me. If it's "Pick 2 options out of 6", then I can be forgiving of making some options clearly better or worse. But if there's a point system of any sort, like in the above examples (PPPP, magical girl cyoa stats) then my mind immediately turns to optimizing mode and lack of balance will be a big problem.
>>97607943Balance is unnecessary in the face of fun so I don't care about it. If I can have fun with a cyoa it's good, if I can't it's bad, simple as.
I want to neuter Bete
I want to neuter Bell
I want to neuter Gil
There will be no dingaling snipping!
>>97604960Thought about my Strength Past Wheel of Fortune strategy more. One should take Door instead. It has divination and anti-divination as well, and its door opening and tricks are perfect for obtaining things and traveling without being noticed, or at least without being identified. Luck is just icing on the cake toward matters that are already fated; Door is more useful.
>>97604960If there are fundamental laws of reality that force a limit on the number of t0's, do they not also mandate a minimum?Does that not mean atleast one person is guaranteed to become the wheel of fortune t0?
Cyoas with this vibe? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6epzmRZk6UU&pp=ygUdbWF4IGhlYWRyb29tIHRoZSBhcnQgb2Ygbm9pc2U%3D
>>97608690No, the Law of Beyonder Characteristics Conservation is about Beyonder Characteristics, not gods or whatever else.
>>97608126>one of my top authorsSame>PPPP, magical girlHuh, I never played either of these. The premise just didn't appeal so I never engaged.>>97608136Based and same>>97608071Cringe and different
>>97606813My Grimoire magic is superior because exceeding known limits fits me perfectly. It also negates any attempts to stop, diminish, bypass, and copy it. Because I will it so. Der wille zur macht and all that.
>>97608742Nope you lose
With metamagic, aegis and spirit fire you can make invincible flames =\
>>97608793Stop being a power gaming asshole.
>>97608807Why? To get curbstomped and raped by someone else?
>>97608807>abloobloobloo
Spellthief is total bullshit wtf the author should bash his head on a brick wall covered in rusty nails and then get resurrected by a perverted necromancer and violently fingered by naked witches
>>97608839>get resurrected by a perverted necromancer and violently fingered by naked witchesWhy are you rewarding them?
>>97608810Actually being strong gives you a higher chance of being raped by some degenerate love goddess.
>>97608807Now now, the powergaming bit isn't too bad, it's being annoying about it that's the problem
>>97608884based if true
>>97604960I'm very disappointed that Justiciar only gets physical law manipulation at s1. All its previous sequences are almost only about cockblocking. Lame.
>>97608965>paragons outdo them in physical law manipulation for at least one sequencelmao
>>97608965Charisma, self-buffs, one of the best attacks before demigodhood, good cockblocking is actually valuable, edicts/imperatives can buff, not just cockblock, Balancers can sense even Servants of Concealment, and short time of 50-50 even against True Gods is fucking massive.Among those pathways that don't give you some sort of access to powers of others, Justiciar seems to be the strongest
>>97604960So what's this setting about? What's the franchise like?Who was the lord and what was the mysteries?
https://rentry.org/CYOAG_multiverseThis is not finished and Should Not be finished, yet I'm letting /cyoag/ read it.
>>97609183I bigly dislike crossovers between settings (doesn't matter if it's a multiverse setting. A planetary setting with multiple continents ~ a universe setting with multiple stellar systems ~ a multiverse setting with multiple verses) but this was quite fun to read.
>>97609183Each day we draw closer to the Final CYOA...
>>97609183While I highly dislike crossover slop, I find the concepts of the sons getting fucked over by mage bureaucrats funny.
>>97609216>Witch AwakeningThey're relatively easy to some of their disciplines (Ministration, Blood/Sanguine Magic being in half of the CYOA, Hespatian all about sacrifice ala Chain of Sins, "Gods" being effectively high-ranked practionners, outsiders are eldritch horrors from beyond the Void) etc.Bonus: The Abyssal Maw described in 'Prison of Mind' is an equivalent to the Anglerfish. >SMGSame as above with the Allmillor (Eldritch Horrors are invading), the various afterlives choices (Data Crypts from WA), the Closed Circuits Blessing (Perception Branch from Blood Magic), etc etc. Now that I think about it, both the Convention and Witches think a masquarade is necessary else the barrier between reality and fiction wanes and the plane dies. It's pretty much what's happening in SMG, with Earth being all magical AND currently breaking down.I think Pantheon of Pleasure, JRPG Traitor and Harahel can also be linked to this grand multiverse, but it might requires autism to write it out.This is a fun way to pass time though. I see why you wrote it.
>>97609183Interesting.
>>97609183Good work. Very thought-provoking, and a lot of it lines up with some of my own thinking over the years.
>>97607943PCA gets it for the most part.
>>97607943the mythic lands mushoku tensei danmachi guy he may be god awful at naming things and has a sometimes less than minimal grasp of the franchises he ports into cyoa form, but he actually does make sure your points are about as good no matter where you put them
>>97609623lol, lmao
>>97609697are you the idiot who thinks it'd only be balanced if magic did everything best, and putting points into anything else would be a waste? because that's not balance, anon
>>97609165It's just steampunk chinkslop
>>97609165The real Lord Of The Mysteries was the friends we made along the way.
>>97608690Nothing in the setting mandates a minimum amount of Gods existing. Just a maximum amount since there's a limited amount of Pathways and Beyonder characteristics
>>97604960>>97608977Even at S0 Justiciar ties with Paragon when it comes to changing the laws of reality. Paragons just gain the power to do it a sequence earlier.
Aromage is literally built for BIG BEAUTIFUL CYOA making.
>>97610108Not they don't. Justiciar can literally add and remove laws. Paragon just controls them for a while.
https://danmachi.fandom.com/wiki/SkillsReminder that Realis Phrase is actually fucking useless for powerfagging anons because they are a loveless lot.
>>97610265https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J6Tu8slDhwY2j3BO5rEbWM3CSA32DbhwkFQ429gCavY>Q: God of Steam’s ability to change Laws of Physics versus the Justiciar's ability to change underlying rules, whose is stronger?>A: Justiciar.>A: After all, it also affects mystical rules.>(TL/N: Seems to imply that it’s approximately equal if it’s purely laws of physics)Isreal. Any new laws a Justiciar makes are functionally mystical laws, not the underlying laws of reality. And ability to change the laws of reality is functionally the ability to remove them, even if temporary. Changing the first law of motion so nothing remains at rest is the same as removing what was the first law of motion.In this field, they're neck-and-neck.
>>97610342I love myself and I love power
>>97610372Paragonbros this is not a good look
>>97604956>BackgroundExile>Personal PerksGrey Eminence, Brilliant Strategist, Industrialist>ItemsStock of Food and Water x10, Eden Pack, Stock of Weapons and Ammunition x5, Stock of Oxygen, Sets of Power Armor x4, Colony Starter Pack, Heavy Mining Equipment, Asteroid Mining Equipment>ArtifactsFusion Core>SpaceshipsOxMuleChariot x4Vulture x2Wolf x2FalconPrometheus (Scarp and use for parts and materials)>Followers 20,160Miners x150 (3,000)Farmers x600 (12,000)Hunters x5 (100)Metallurgists x30 (600)Builders x25 (500)Technicians x25 (500)Crewmen x25 (500)Artisans x5 (100)Bureaucrats x5 (100)Enforcers x5 (100)Merchants (20)Soldiers x30 (600)Artists (20)Chemists x5 (100)Engineers x25 (500)Medics x5 (100)Researchers x10 (200)Architects (20)Roboticists (20)Void Pilots x2 (40)Assault Marines x2 (40)>Star SystemStar: Type KPlanet Type: Savanah WorldPlanet Size: Medium PlanetResource Stats: CM - 4, RM - 3, FF - 2, VL - 2Planetary Hazards: Dangerous WildlifePlanetary Perks: Mild Climate, Good Soil>DrawbacksCompetitors (12 Rival Colonies), Techno Barbarians, The Facility
>>97610385Just another QnA upscale for the STRONGEST pathway. At least Justiciars still dominate in mystical law.
>techjeets are at it againgod please nuke india already
Is there a list of all the interactive CYOAs that have web pages what let you save and export and all that? I checked the links and can't find it if it's there.
>>97610417we dont interact with interactive slopheh
>>97610417Ask the question on Reddit, and I say it with the best intentions. Neither this thread nor /mcyoag/ or /cyoar/ is fond of them, so you're unlikely to find an answer here.
>>97610372I mean it was obvious, its just paragonfags being intentionally retarded. Techjeets are NOT winning a law-off battle against THE lawmaker pathway.
>>97609502>PCAAre you kidding? Spirit Conscript was badly balanced. So is Power Creator.
Paragonfags are going to be the fordfags of LoTM cyoa, I can feel it
>>97610538That's FordGODS to you
>>97610538That's RoselleGODS to you
>>97610538Why are techjeets consistently the most obnoxious faggots in every cyoa? Its a stereotype at this point.
>>97610545>RoselleGODSHe's not talking about Black Emperor thougheverbeit
>>97610549They are matterjeeta disciples. They inherited her annoying bad faith argument ways.
>>97610545>Roselle>GodHe tried, but failed spectacularly.
>>97604939Is it even worth it to get tier 3 spells if you have Metamagic?
>>97610579>switches from Paragon>immediately jobs at everythingHmmm
>>97610545>RoselleGODSHilarious.
>>97610602More like >Choose the Parajobber pathway>His fate as a jobber is sealed forever
>>97610634He was winning when he was a Paragon, he only started jobbing once he switched to hermitCan we even call losing against MGOD jobbing? She's the strongest GOO even while missing half her Sefirot and uniquenesses and even CW himself got played by her
>>97604946>Adventurer>RaceElf>Scenario Early Start - 1000 years agoMultiplayer>TrainingCombat II->III 42p>StatsAll boost 37p>Level 1>Development AbilityMystery 33p>SkillsGluttony 13pHidden Ace 8pMetamagic 0p>MagicNo Spells>FamiliaCanon God - DemeterCombat Rank 3My slow life living where I amass a collection of many and random skills that are then buffed by Hidden Ace into being obnoxiously powerful. Picked Demeter because she is apparently the best cook among the gods and the familia can help support my gluttony while I offer a strong protective hand. Mystery and Metamagic are to help shape my level progression into a magic oriented build with Mystery creations hopefully being more potent than the raw materials.
>>97610714Forgot my build image.
>>97610714> Elf> Metamagic> No Spells???
>>97610782Fat Elfis is not that smart yet, gotta level up a few times first.
>>97610787Getting spells naturally is hard and they aren't even guarenteed to be that good, if you're serious about magic you definetly want at least one.
>>97610787Also the earlier you get spells the earlier you can work on getting magic related skills and developmental abilities.
>>97610800>>97610807Having Mystery can guarantee my first Development Ability is magic related and can give me a solid foundation to work towards a Mage or Spirit DA for the 3rd level. Metamagic gives me the breathing room to not be completely reliant on getting a good base spell as I can stretch and alter it to fit my needs. With my kit even if I end up with 1 or two mediocre spells, I can hold out for a grimoire for the last spell.
What the fuck is the actual fucking difference between Nature’s Forge and Crozzo Blood?
>>97610832One is a blessing from a spirit, the other is the bloodline of a spirit.
>>97610828Only elves get access to spirit crap if I recall correctly. Or they’re the ones who typically get it. Cherry picking from the cyoa is a lot more beneficial than you realize. You wouldn’t be offered most of it otherwise.
>>97610837??!!?!!??!?????!!??!??!?????!?!!?!!!??!?
>>97610856>t. average ratmachi fan's reading comprehension
>>97610828> Metamagic gives me the breathing room to not be completely reliant on getting a good base spell as I can stretch and alter it to fit my needs. Why not just get a good spell and then also be able to alter it to make it even better?> With my kit even if I end up with 1 or two mediocre spells, I can hold out for a grimoire for the last spell.There's a person who read dozens of grimoires and still couldn't fill her last slot.
>>97610842While tempting, Giving up 50% gains in 4 stats for Spirit Fire or a Grimoire is just a bit too much given the random nature of skills Gluttony grants, having a good base to abuse all my potential skills is more important. At worst I can just learn normal elf magic to metamagic up if I gacha out truly awful spells. Elves are one of the few races that have that option I believe.
>>97610832Crozzo Blood is only for swords, Nature's Forge is for everything. Crozzo Blood is probably more powerful but less versatile, while Nature's forge is the opposite.
>>97610892>headcanonFuck off.
>>97610904Excuse me? What are you talking about?
>>97610882>There's a person who read dozens of grimoires and still couldn't fill her last slot.That’s because magic is tied to experience. Some magic is literally based on past traumas. Or it’s personal to the mage’s own character traits. This is probably why Riveria’s spells each come in three different verses. She’s a chanter or speaker at heart. This is why Hedin’s extremely powerful enchant magic can’t be used on himself and puts him out of commission. He’s a prideful fucker. This is why Bete’s spell is so painful and long to use. He has to confront his losses.
>>97610837Shouldn’t the direct blessing of a spirit be more beneficial? Or is the assumption that having spirit blood is more potent? This is an odd assumption since spirits are shown to be able to lend themselves in literally whatever shape or form they wish.
>>97610952I'd expect granted power by a spirit wouldn't be as good as literally being part spirit yourself.
uruk necromancer bodies your build
>>97610963Spirits can take on any form they wish, though? It’s like saying Crozzo is more powerful than the spirit that gave him its blood. It took the form of his ancestors blood. Spirits can take the form of abstract shields, horses, swords, etc.
Bell reminds me of Gil. Both are innocent kiddos who will roll away at the sight of a naked lady.
>>97611051lies, gil is a coomer for brown women
>>97610928So all anon's spells are going to be weak as shit?
>>97611051>innocent
>>97611063Yeah it will be a lame ass white glob spell that plops depressingly out of the caster’s hands after a sad little fart noise.
Reminder that it’s canon that the gods are so casual about sex they will literally have sex with anybody even their own familia members and it’s considered polite to give your god a good grope
>>97610428>>97610510Why's that?
>unprompted danmarat lore drops.
>>97611116lotmfag btw not sure if it matters
>>97611082So if I decided to give Hermes a random handjob…….
>>97611124His dick is canonically two inches ;)
The only accurate deity in Danmachi is Zeus lol; and he’s barely seen at that
>>97610372Justiciar can permanently affect laws. It is plainly superior to Paragon who can only do so temporarily. The translation note is baseless.>Any new laws a Justiciar makes are functionally mystical laws, not the underlying laws of reality.What nonsense are you talking about? Justiciar can affect both mystical and physical laws.I don't particularly care that you and perhaps some others keep bringing up Paragon, but at least don't lie.
>>97610372>lotm trannylators are techjeetsgrim
>>97610601If you have Metamagic, you buy spells for their effects, not their tier.
>>97610372>even if temporary>>97611292>who can only do so temporarilyIs this known actually? I can't find anything that says Paragon law powers are temporary
>>97611313Reality naturally dissipates magic. It is why magical items not made with characteristics are temporary. Being able to make permanent changes is a big deal.
>>97611321>reality hardcounters magictechGODS...
>>97611313Could've sworn something said it was temporary but looking on CF's post he never specifies. However he never says its permanent either, whereas for Justiciar he mentions permanency twice. Safe to assume its temporary.
>>97610832the way I understand is:nature's forge: >work for anything you craft, not just swords>gives a moderate buff to any attack it makes by giving it some elemental damage, crozzo's blood:>only affects swords>the buff is many times more powerful than those of the prior skill but in exchange the swords can break>it is probably better to think of these less of weapons and more of a consumable item that let you instantly cast blasts spells.>also this >>97610837 since this comes from blood, your children will inherit this skilleither way they are only useful for crafting builds and any decent crafting build will want both
>>97611347Careful anon, they will call you a headcanoning retard.
In my headcanon Gil is a shota (Pallum) paladin
Uruk Necromancer sneaks into your room at night and gives you a blowie while you sleep.
>>97611406>>97611430now kiss
What kind of name is Welf
>>97611577It's an actual name apparently
>>97610714Drop combat and get 2 grimoires for 2 perfect spells.
>>97611347>the buff is many times more powerful than those of the prior skill but in exchange the swords can breakIsn’t Crozzo capable of channeling his spirit blood through his weapons without breaking them? With a level of magic power comparable to a level six mage?
>>97611347>any decent crafting build will want bothNah, Crozzo Blood is only for offense.
Metamagic doesn’t really clarify how far it can go. 1. Riveria can’t improvise beyond her nine spells. She only has three different tiers for each of her three spells, making nine total. No more. Does this mean I can’t go beyond nine?2. Her attack spell is seen to range from ice to fire to wind. The lowest tier is a cone of coldness that has that cringe “so cold it freezes time” effect that is seen in several other anime (*cough* Eadeath from Akame ga kill *cough*), while the mid tier is a literal inferno consisting of pillars of fire. Can I change the element of my spells? Can I radically alter their trajectory? Can I decide where it gets called from?
>>97611801>>97611807Whats your beef with akame ga kill it was my first anime growing up
>>97611816I feel so bad for you.
>>97604939Exalt seems kind of weak no?
>>97611816>akame ga killInteresting plot and characters, dogshit resolutions. The waifus are great though
>>97611816>it was my first anime growing uplol
>>97611926Nah it’s basically a Level Up
>>97611807Metamagic isn't a complete copy of that, it's its own thing.
>>97609502As someone noted, making a mid-high level flying brick style superhero (the kind that comes to mind when you think of the word "superhero") costs more than picking one of the godmode powers. That's a central problem with the cyoa, it made me and I suspect many others appreciate the cyoa less.>>97609623>the mythic lands mushoku tensei danmachi guy He marked the Danmachi update >>97604939 as "5anon".The Strength stat in Mythic Lands was really bad compared to the rest, when you read the descriptions of the meanings of the levels of Strength. In Harbinger too, Strength was one of the more expensive powers. It's a strangely common problem for authors to put too big pricetags on strength.>>97607943Of the big name authors, Tankista does better than most? Of course I'm not talking about Worm era Tankista, I'm talking about OR update era Tankista. And >>97607983 Nxtub also, yeah.
Uhhh. > Double Canon (二重追奏ダブル・カノン):> In exchange for allowing her to cast two magics almost simultaneously, the burden of maintaining and controlling a magic circle on standby is "double the weight" of a magic. While this makes it quite tiring to use, especially in conjunction with her Elf Ring magic, the heavy burden this places on her magic stat has led to a drastic increase in it.> Loki theorized that even without casting a magic, Double Canon allows Lefiya to gain excelia that improves her mind reserves and magic stat just by having a magic circle's ring on standby. While it wouldn't compare to using magic in combat, this makes carrying a magic ring in her daily life a viable training method for her.So mages don’t actually have to do anything?
>>97612002I like PCA because he's one of the few guys to actually acknowledge the whole 'points are way better the more you spend at once' thing. > As someone noted, making a mid-high level flying brick style superhero (the kind that comes to mind when you think of the word "superhero") costs more than picking one of the godmode powers. Couldn't you just go tier 3 red and take Sentinel and Flight? and then you'd still have a free tier 1 power you can do whatever with.
>>97612040> So mages don’t actually have to do anything?,,,No?
>>97612040Lefiya, specifically, doesn't, due to her unique magic circle. Since you can't grab that skill, you can't use her training method. Like Naruto's shadow clones, which aren't feasible for anybody else, it's a special bonus from a unique aptitude for a common ability.
>>97612065All they have to do is hang a spell around their wrist and they gain passive exp over time???
>>97612002>The Strength stat in Mythic Lands was really bad compared to the restStrength isn't weak. It measures all physical abilities at once, including speed. Every point represents five levels of superiority over 0. You need to have at least a modest investment in Strength if you don't to be outran and clobbered before you finish casting anything. That's even before accounting for its associated skills.
>>97612087That is a specific skill she has that we don't. Even if you did it's still tiring to do, it's just the equivalent of wearing weighted clothes all the time.
>>97612086FYI, You can gain Double Cannon in the CYOA. Elf Ring is her actual spell.
>>97612040> Loki theorized>theorizedGods invent an experience system for their LARP session on Earth, but have no idea how it works?
>>97612095The skill is in the CYOA. Please read.
>>97612101So you can! My bad, you can totally copy her training regime exactly, but it would still be a special skill for only you two and not a common trait for all mages.
>>97612113right, fine, but the other point still applies.
Look at all these rats. Arguing about such silly things.
What happens if I don’t have enough points for development abilities? Are they chosen randomly for me?
>>97612237>Are they chosen randomly for me?You don't get any, as you don't always get one when leveling up.
>>97612237You just don't get them presumably.
>>97612237Depending on your experiences while adventuring you might get some when you level up, and you might not.
>>97612243>>97612245>>97612253Gay
>>97612237Development abilities are obtained one per level, if you met the requirements to obtain them. That means you can have a level without any, technically, but many canon adventurers do not have this problem, especially ones with rare skills. Navigating these kinds of issues are one of the benefits of having a strong family to work with.
In canon, the Hunter DA only shows up for people who’ve just turned level 2. The cyoa forgot to mention that. Need to kill a lot of monsters in a short amount of time as a newbie adventurer.
Canon this, canon that. Fuck off.
You WILL research on the ad infested Wiki
>>97604939What is the canon reason Zeus did not use his god powers to instantly solve the monster problem in the dungeon, if he was going go exit the mortal world anyway?
>>97612350The bad dragon would soloed him and the rest of the setting
>>97612350Insufficient power. Try and apocalypse happens immediately.
>>97612350Because it’s part of the game. The gods and the dungeon are both participants.
>>97612350he's a useless bum.
>>97612350Zeus is still on the mortal world, he went into hiding not back to heaven.The other gods don't do it because there's an agreement that the won't use their powers. IIRC Dionysus considered destroying Orario with his god powers before being sent back to heaven but realized the other gods would just restore it.
In canon, the gods can destroy the planet but they choose not to. A single god can do this. But to the gods it’s the equivalent of someone getting angry and flipping the monopoly game board over in frustration. Only a sore loser would do that. That’s literally it.
>>97605584This one is superior.
>>97605584I used to think Jerry from Tom & Jerry was female (ESL, so I didn't know Jerry was a male name)
>>97604939So who's best girl here?
>>97609165>So what's this setting about? What's the franchise like?"Lord of the Mysteries" is a steampunk setting where people are trying to evolve into gods by pursuing one of the titles/aspects of the Original Creator. To do so, they have to act in accordance with the values of that title, achieve certain goals related to it, and consume potions made of rare ingredients. The fact that this is possible is an open secret in the setting. Not to the point of recruiting fairs or anything like that, but if you're paying attention, you probably know (at least) that people are trying to do this. There are a couple tiers of titles. The lowest ranked one are the Pathways, most of which are associated with one of the Tarot cards. The next "official" tier is Great Old One. Originally avatars of the Creator, becoming a Great Old One requires (you) to master all of the Pathways affiliated with the avatar, which usually have a shared underlying theme.The final "official" tier of title are the Four Pillars . . .which aren't really that relevant, as three are identical to Great Old Ones, and the fourth won't form until the end of the world.>Who was the lord and what was the mysteries?The Lord of the Mysteries is a Great Old One-tier title, which controls the Fool, Door, and Error pathways. Basically, they're the ones that deal with the "weird s#!t" of existence.The protagonist of the novel is pursuing the Fool pathway, and thus is a candidate to become the new Lord of the Mysteries (should he succeed).
>>97612460Tara Arissen. Thick thighs. Beautiful. Long lived race. Want to find a mate.
>>97610574She can't keep getting away with it.
Why is the Minion spell so broken? With Metamagic you can just… summon your spells…
>>97612665>metamagic makes a spell strongReally? How could you guess?
>>97604939I don't know the series very well. Is something like Monster spell + Monster Maker skill (+ Hidden Ace skill?) a strong combo? What sort of cool powers can monsters have here?
All this talk of powerful combos and the actual builds are picking metamagic without spells lol
>>97612755>builds are picking metamagic without spells>builds, pluralFind a second one.
>>97612002disagree, strenght in mythic lands is strong because it gets further multiplied by your perks, the raw stat description is just what you get if you don't do anything further with it
>>97612765My statement was also referencing the fact that all but one of the builds that took metamagic only have a single spell.
>>97612754Yes and I don't believe there are any hard limits..
>>97612832I'll update my build once I decide whether or not to drop Affinity for Overheal.
>>97612832at least for me there's one specific spell (monster) that works incredibly well with my build and I don't exactly have the space to get more. Also I'm an Elf with Luck which should help me use Grimoires later.
>>97604946'Kay, before I change my mind again.>AdventurerNaturally>ElfLongevity, beauty, magic, what's not to love?>Super>Double Cannon>Pressurized>Metamagic>Favored Path (Magic)I cast the spells that make the people fall down. I have no idea if I can sustain Super better with Raise and Restore, but it's worth a shot, and if not, then I can just use it as normal; it's still Trance. Terra was ridiculous with that shit. Just load up a fucking Meteor Swarm and toggle it on. I can stow a high power spell with Double Cannon and open up every fight with a limit break. Insanity. I also dropped the experience boosts because I think I can get value out of going super saiyan for high speed combat, and then sustaining double cannon with periodic stabbing myself and healing it off to raise endurance. If I turn into a total bitch I can always grab a friend to stab me and pre-load a healing spell into the cannon, so it's not even that stressful.>Raise (Light)>Restore>TorrentRaise lets me get away with the rainbow theme properly, since it asks for a theme, but the key here is Metamagic Torrent. It's a spell that does everything. Nova is cool because it's an area of effect damage and heal over time, a lot of value in one spell, or I can combine Torrent with Restore to get the exact same spell, but better, because Restore covers things Nova doesn't. Raise is like Exalt, except better and faster, in return for being self-only. Unless I tack it onto "Nova," of course. How's that for a party favor? The real take away is that Metamagic is awesome and experimenting with it is the only point of this build.>Canon God (Loki)>>CombatI don't want to mess around with random chance, and as far as I know, she's supposed to be a pretty reliable boss. She also has some really high level employees, including some powerful elf mages I can crib notes/support from. I'll take combat as my bonus training, which seems like it would be mandatory for dungeon diving.
>>97612754>>97604939if it works? yeah it's a strong combo but the big problem with the monster maker skill is that they are not loyal so if you don't have the strength to defend yourself from them you will most likely get killed before you can get the combo rolling.>>97612755also this, I'm not even that well versed in danmachi lore but even I know how painfully stupid that choice is, any build with metamagic should have at the very least 2 spells but ideally it would be 3 because not only is gaining even a single spell later on extremely hard, it's even harder to gain strong and useful spells like the ones in the cyoa.
>>97612832>>97612960Some spells are versatile enough on their own that they can be said to "do everything". Case in point, Monster.>the big problem with the monster maker skill is that they are not loyalYou just have to figure out how to make them loyal (hint: study biopsychology).
With Metamagic you can turn one spell into a hundred One spell wonder
>>97612986or just take the DA that lets you tame monsters.
What is wrong with the shitter tier spells in danmachi? I want to use them with Metamagic to kill spirit fire supremacists.
Can’t I just create Spirit Fire from scratch by taking Blast(Spirit) and upgrading it to Tier 3 status using Metamagic?
>>97613259Nothing, that is a perfectly viable choice.
>>97613259>>97613266I like the way you think The only thing going for spirit magic is its resistance eating effects and “hur dur it’s te strongest explicitly hur dur”.
>>97604939I feel like this could use some drawbacks…
>>97613282No. It is rare that an author has enough self awareness to not put drawbacks in their cyoas. Drawbacks are demons of imbalance. DEMONS.
>Magic is extremely rareBitch no it’s not. Having access to spells of your own is what’s rare.
>>97613295Anon I just need two more points. That’s all I need…
>>97613295Balance is a scam that gets in the way of fun.
>>97613335I bet your favorite cyoa is that interactive worm abomination.
>>97613320You'll take your 50 points and you'll like it.
Gil is an interactive worm.
danmachi
I want to interact with Gil's worm.
Is double cannon even worth it
>>97613478No.
>>97613478only if you have one of the tier 3 spells which have longer chants, if you and your party ever want to challenge a boss before going into the boss room you can store one big spell to use instantly which is a pretty huge advantage.with that said I think this favors more a spellblade build than a pure mage, because while it is stored your other spells have x2 cast time so a non-magical way to fight is vital.
>>97613478Yes, its fairly cheap and a good investment against monster lords.
Gilbert is literally a hobbit
>>97613478Depends obviously.
Pressurized is kind of bullshit
>>97613683Yeah but it’s really good with double cannon. Wait until you’re at zero mana and then launch.
>>97613683It's pretty risky
>>97607941It is been like 6 years and still nothing comes close to this. CC from Rake was pretty fun tho.
>>97604939>Adventurer>Mixed (Human/Dwarf)>Multiplayer>Survival* x2>Tactics>Magic Armor>Dexterity>Magic>Endurance>Level Up>Hunter>Tamer>Armory>Mystery>Smithing>Courage>Prime>Taunt>Voice>Reflect>Canon God (Goibniu)I don't really care for this one. I tend to agree that shonen (and to a lesser extent any franchise) CYOAs are boring. That being said, I thought I'd give it a shot, since I do sometimes enjoy off-the-wall builds for these that mostly disregard the source material. This was built around the idea of a kind of mix of Trojan horse/puppetry/lion dance/trapping. This guy will create a modular "exoskeleton" that can accommodate multiple party members, layers of armor, skins, scent gland receptacles, ports for "swarm" puppets, and so on. Basically the goal is to either ingratiate ourselves to or intimidate dungeon inhabitants by posing as monsters, and failing that to use the structure as sort of a tank. Maybe this could also be folded into collecting rare ingredients from them
>>97613700How? It just means you’re always capable of firing magic. Your weak tier 1 spell is now like 10x stronger or something.
>>97613713In the sense that to get full use of it you have to be on the edge of running out of mana.
>>97613683As in it's terrible? Yea. More expensive than Spirit and Mage together. No thanks.
>>97609183What does this mean?Like what is the point it is describing?It seems like a synopsis of the content of many cyoa's
Could (You) defeat Donovan in combat, given $300 and four hours of preptime in the average wal-mart?
>>97613859idk who that is but sure
>>97613889>Pathway: Rapemeat
>>97613859first, I buy an air rifle and take out his eyes. I then purchase two knives, a broom, and twine with which to fashion a spear. I poke at his blind head until he dies, at which point I spend the rest on beer
>>97613859>maleIt's already over.
>>97600518>>97604946Is;>Duelist>Chain>Blitz>Curseoverkill?I'm pretty spec'd into taking out a single opponent pretty quickly but should I branch out in to crowd control or just a more balanced fighting style?
>>97614187>Valis>CompanionsWhat is wrong with you?
>>97614200I like money and I like friends.Besides, I don't think a lot of people take in to account how much capital they might need to buy a decent set of gear. Just assuming they'll be able to walk into the city and just be able to start doing whatever they want to be doing.I probably should pick a better set of companions though. We're all just different flavour of fighter.Should probably get a crafter, someone a bit more sneaky and a mage.But sometimes you just need to go with your dick and throw caution to the wind.
>>97613994>all those naked menImagine the smell
>>97614237average cyoag thread
>>97613750With Spirit it means you’ll always bounce back with surprisingly potent spells, assuming you can even cast them; which might not be the case if your spells are already massive and demanding
>>97614187that's an interesting and probably very effective combo, if anything rather than overkill I would tell you to go even further and add something like slow.
>>97614228The money is based on average income, which means it is garbage. Plus, you have a familia to provide you equipment. Companions are even more worthless. They just join your familia, with no guarantee of loyalty or friendship, not even acquaintance. They're complete strangers to you, and you have no way to prove that you were instrumental in recruiting them.
>>97614228>I like money and I like friendsYou’re cute anon
Minion is so dumb.
>>97613696It wouldn’t be affected by that. You’ve already pre-cast your spell. It’s not going to receive a boost.
>>97614311>>97614311>>97614311>>97614311>>97614311THROG
Pressurized is actually a really bad DA if you don’t already have quick and cheap spells, and an already low reserve of magic power to rely on.
>>97614326It says it boosts your magic no matter how low you go—it increases as you go lower.
>>97614282Having an entire years worth of income (whether it's the average or not) is no small thing. It's more than enough to establish yourself in whatever field you have your sight set on.>familia to provide equipment>SomaYeah, I don't think that's going to pan out for me. .> They just join your familia, with no guarantee of loyalty or friendship, not even acquaintance.While I think the section should be worded to imply you meet them under favorable circumstances having Charm at rank 1 (might make it 2 as I haven't applied my free training bonus yet) makes me think it wont be too hard to actually befriend these people. I don't need a guarantee of friendship just the possibility of it as long as I put in the effort.>>97614283Thanks anon!>>97614262There's definitely worse things to do than go all in on a specialty. I am apprehensive about taking another Development Ability as unlocking it would rely on gaining another level and I'm not sure how hard it'll be to get to lvl 4
>>97614355>SomaOh shit, didn't notice. Dude, why did you pick him? The familia is literally filled with bums and evil.
>>97614598I want to make the sad god smile, anon.I'm going to clean up his familia and make it a place for artisan's and merchants that are in it for the love of the game and force out the parasitic elements. I have no idea how kicking people out of a familia actually works in setting.
>>97604960Can anyone confirm whether only s9-6, 4, and 2 Abyss warp your mind? I've read the wiki and its sources, and the other sequences, namely 5, 3, 1, and 0, do not mention any mental changes to the beyonder. Of course, I am not referring to the accumulated madness common to all characteristics.
>>97614955Go talk about your webnovel somewhere else. This is a thread for CYOAs, not WIPs.
