/bgg/ Board Games GeneralPrevious thread:>>97590644Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/h8Tz2ze8*NEWISH* survey results:https://pastebin.com/scAkFdTv>what's your favorite mechanism?>what's your game of the year for 2025?>which 2026 release are you most excited for?
>>97622581>>what's your favorite mechanism?bluffing>>what's your game of the year for 2025?nothing was published in 2025>>which 2026 release are you most excited for?nothing will be published in 2026.
>>97622581>what's your favorite mechanism?I want to say drafting (especially if it's enough cards so you can speculate what will wheel back to you) but that one is the best supplementary mechanism, pure drafting like 7w or its a wonderful kingdom always felt somewhat lacklustre>What's your game of the year for 2025?Weirdly enough, toy battle. It's not something I am really hungering to play but I've played it so so much and still haben't gotten tired of it>which 2026 release are you most excited for?No idea what'll get released. I'm inclined to say stellar ventures because I did the unthinkable and cr*dfunded it, but I find it much easier to judge a year in retrospect 3-5 or so years laterAlso how is Civolution STILL this underrated?
>>97622646>nothing was published in 2025Damnhe wasnt kidding when he said bluffing was his fave mechanism
>>97622730That was the joke, anon.
What happened while playing that made you look like this?
>>97622747Welp, back under my rock I go
>>97622759My wife betraying a member of her own court to join my Afghan Coalition and steal the W from me due to her doubled second place VP payout.I was about to pull of a "from last place to the victor" play despite the odds, and that bitch deflated my balloon while having done jack shit to set up the Coalition.Yea sure I respect the shenanigans but 6 years later it still smarts.
>>97622759https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFex4FGzKjA
>>97622581>>what's your favorite mechanism?when i first started getting deep into board games, i was all about the mechanics. i wanted a game of every type, 1 that best exemplified it. i got into mechanics like social deduction and deckbuilding early on. i can't point to any mechanism i especially like right now - but i know which ones i don't like (drafting, engine building [solely because it's usually too long. i love Race for the Galaxy]). GeekGroup says my favorite mechanism is hand management and that's true i guess, i love holding some cards.>>what's your game of the year for 2025?only 1 i've played is Magical Athlete. i liked that a lot, so that. i'm not a cult of the new guy.>>which 2026 release are you most excited for?Knizia reprints: T&E and LOTR: The Confrontationreprint of Camp Grizzly
>>97622759took a monster bong hit that got me by the booboo
>>97622581>>what's your favorite mechanism?I am a sucker for drafting and lane competition. Also whatever you call the positioning dancing that goes on in games like Battlecon and Guards of Atlantis.>>what's your game of the year for 2025?I may have played maybe 5 games that came out last year, and only Tag Team and Compile repeatedly.While Tag Team was more addicting, I favour the push and pull tempo of Compile.>>which 2026 release are you most excited for?Uh...Old Kings Crown reprint? Maybe the Box of Xeno Flicks for Flick Fleet?I am not really in the know anymore of what is on the horizon.
>>97622581>what's your favorite mechanism?Worker placement>what's your game of the year for 2025?Pic related. But also shoutout to Leaders. Been playing that little game a lot over the last few months.>which 2026 release are you most excited for?Probably The Great Sea.>>97622759When somebody brought greasy snacks.When I brought a game but then we end up not playing it. Especially if we instead play something I don't like.When people fiddle with their cards and bend them. (if it's my game)
>>97622849>When somebody brought greasy snacks.My regular game nights supply pizza. :(>When I brought a game but then we end up not playing it. Especially if we instead play something I don't like.We almost never coordinate games ahead of time. :(>When people fiddle with their cards and bend them. (if it's my game)This has only been an issue when playing with distant relatives.
>>97622857One of my friends always bends the cards way up when drawing. Like when a poker player checks his hand. Hate that shit.
>>97622581>mechanicTug of war victory conditions and/or anything that lets you coopt or convert units/resources held by an opponent instead of direct combat>2025China's war>2026The Pure Land will definitely ship. A Fading Star might ship. Cautiously optimistic that Echo From the Dark won't be a total shitshow.
>what's your favorite mechanism?It's hard to pick a mechanism (type?) so abstractly, but auctions jump out as something that is almost universally engaging.The wheel in Tzolk'in gets an honorable mention as whatever the hell it's classified as.>what's your game of the year for 2025?I don't buy new games.>which 2026 release are you most excited for?Zero idea what is being released and won't buy any until 2027 in all likelihood.
>>97622759realizing I read the rules wrong and basically cheated while trying to introduce the game to people
My gf studied evolutionary biology and got her PhD done in ecotoxicology (she's still a researcher) and I want to gift her a biology themed game. I was thinking about the bios games, especially megafauna, are they too hard to learn? I'm also looking for something that you win by implementing strategies actually used by real world organisms
>>97623223>I'm also looking for something that you win by implementing strategies actually used by real world organismsAn Infamous TrafficMolly HouseRaptor Twilight Struggle ....
>>97622795>engine buildingI would love engine building if they all didn't end right as things were set up. I understand why but it's always disheartening that just as you get that card that makes everything work at profit you're counting VPs instead of having another turn.>>97622581>what's your favorite mechanism?I wanted to say deckbuilding but dice manipulation gets my dick hard.>what's your game of the year for 2025?it's 2025 already?!>which 2026 release are you most excited for?my buddy is going all in on some kickstarter I can never remember
>>97623308>dice manipulationyou'd like mobile frame zero
>>97622849redpill me on this. 7 phases 11 options 13 tracks 87 ways to score bonus vps or whatever it seems like a clusterfuck of info and bits. is it point salad are there viable alternatives like min/maxing knowledge track or is there a necessary strategy?>>97622857my regular game group always has a meat or meat and cheese tray everyone eats with their fingers. it seems like a horrible idea but it doesn't really seem to affect things.
>>97623223Genotype is pretty phenomenal. Dominant Species would also be good but maybe harder to lay hands on.
>>97623223oh also manhatten project energy empire for enviro and pollution related.for megafauna evolution: climate seems on point but my group has never enjoyed the game- they're all basic bitches and never push the environment effects in climate. I've heard other groups are more cutthroat and it makes the game fun. I prefer evolution: the beginning because it's light and eating your opponents' whole tableau is hell fun and everybody gets into it.
>>97623321One action you can take is getting an additional stone tablet. You start with a random one as part of setup. Stone tablets just offer you endgame goals to fulfill. There are a bunch of different ones and they each give you 10vp if you fulfill them. You can combine them with the herb/flower abilities you get throughout the game for some pretty nice combos. There are different paths for you to try to get points and ideally you play such that you get stuff that has synergy with each other. Overall it's still pretty much points galore all over the place but if you actually look out for such synergies and play accordingly you're gonna be in a great position.
>>97622442no worries if you don't want to argue it, i just think it's an interesting discussion. the stuff you see as remnants of a FFA design, to me, read more as hallmarks of compelling team dynamicsvery curious if the expansion will just be new families, or if they will try to work in other systemsto me the game time seems to be a product of planning time mostly, which is very group dependent. perhaps they could add an accelerating force somehow
Fucking finally, after one year of waiting it's in my hands. Can you guess the game /bgg/?
>>97623578>anons compile order finally came through
>>97623223Check out the biology game anon spammed in the earlier thread. That got my molbio nerves firing and I haven't heard about it prior.
>>97622653>how is Civolution STILL this underrated?most see it's size, read reviews that say "this is castles of burgundy but with more than double the dice" and choose to nope out.
>>97623223>>97623740Bios Origins is less biology and more chemistry, because that's what lies on the other side of the "alove / not alive" divide. Other Bios games do delve into the biology, and while not impossibly difficult Megafauna does have a lot of moving parts to track. If you want an easier game about animals evolving, you could try Dominant Species or Evolution (optionally the Climate variant)
>>97623578poker chips for the autistic 18XX game that's a whole other year away from shipping because small independent studio publisher
>>97623813I would say the first third of Bios Genesis is chemistry. Once you establish a microorganism its all chromosomes, mutations, parasitic attachments, gaining and losing organs, etc.
>>97623578March of the Ants Evolved Edition? It's what I'm waiting for, anyway.
>>97623336She doesn't like botany that much>>97623358>>97623813I already have oceans, from the same guys of evolution, so I'd like to try something differentI've also looked up dominant species but it gives me a more gamey feeling compared to the bios games
>>97623223I bet she'd like Wingspan
Do you all play games on TTS anons?
>>97624297Only for games that I'm not sure about, especially if they're expensive.
>>97624063>oceansOceans is trash. The only thing it has going for it is the Deep deck, which should in theory make the game have more longevity, but in practice just makes it unbalanced and luck based.
>>97624297I havent touched it in a while, but yea, been a godsend for playing with friends who moved away.
>>97624309It's fine, I don't like how busted tentacles is though
>>97624297TTS is the best, I dont' understand how some people are so against it or don't know how to use it. It's not like you can't play both physically and digitally.
>>97623607I have enough 2p games to last me a lifetime. >>97623823You were on the right path.>>97624006Hope you get yours soon mate.
>>97624455>I dont' understand how some people are so against itSome people think TTS is piracy. These people are retarded.
Piracy is good though
>>97624593>looks like a finished professional productS-splotterhater sisters, our response??
>>97624639Best pirate game?
>>97624656i still haven't seen the inside and the component quality, it still has a chance to look like fresh ass (exactly how i like them)
>>97624661Aegean Sea
this year's releases so far have been an absolute shitfest, god they're making this easy
>>97624767forgot namefag
>>97624767Search the archives. A good game has never been released in January or February
>>97624661strange to relate but I'm pretty sure there aren't any good pirate themed board games. problem being that the decision space around being a pirate captain is incredibly technical and tedious; you could probably make a better game out of being a cutpurse.
>>97623184Mine was literaly reading the rules out loud and being told I was wrong. There was no teacher.
Let's compile a list of /bgg/ approved light and medium weight 2-player games. Each person may add one game to the roster.What's considered light and medium weight? Let's say any game that can be played in under an hour by people who are familiar with it is a legit candidate.No need to sort them into the grid in a special way, just put them anywhere.
>>97624661I really liked Dead Reckoning.
>>97625244Please add Tag Team
>>97625244Lost Cities
>>97625244Raptor
>>97625244Summoner Wars
>>97625244Android: Netrunner
>>97625244Battle Line
>>97625244
>>97625244Codenames: Duet
>>97623321
>>97625244Hive
>>97625244Is it happening? Are we really about to receive official /bgg/chart???
>>97626090it's all i've ever wantedit's all any of us have ever wanted
>>97626080>>97626094 hivemind
>>97625244Jaipur
>>976252447 Ronin
>>97626066>we live in an era that offers the dizzying pinnacles of human achievement to nearly anyone who cares >oh but chopsticks are too difficult, here have chopsticks for retards instead grim
>>97625244Star Wars: A Deckbuilding Game
>>97625244Patchwork
If you wanna edit the image yourselves make sure to save as png instead of jpg or image quality will go to shit fast.
>>97625244Kingdomino
>>97625244Boop!
>>97626195Sky Team
>>97625244>>97626195I've added Dominion.
>>97626090adding a tight constraint definitely helps prevent the clusterfuck that was that one anons original attempt all those years ago
>>97625244Pax Ren is medium weight
>>97626220Race for the Galaxy
>>97625244Radlands
>>97626220I would strongly consider hara-kiri if faced with the prospect of playing dominion at 2 with someone I couldn't conveniently abandon at sea
>>97626162They're meant to be chopsticks you don't have to pick up and set down while using a controller.
>>97625244Compile
>>97626162But while I was sifting through stock photos of these
>>97626162I did find a photo of someone wearing them while playing Clue.
>>97626259you are digging down not out
>>97625244Race for the Galaxy
>>97625244Star Realms
>>97625244Sakura Arms
>>976252447 Wonders Duel
>>976263437wd hasn't aged well
>>97626306shards of infinity is better
>>97626352how so?
>>97626722It's a bit weird to me how the ameritrashier style (not that the dichotomy is particularly useful at this point anyway) of game is often depicted as fun forward and easygoing, yet I found that there's a tendency of getting bogged down with rules and exceptions whilst also not being immediately fun. Nemesis, as a (rare) example of straight up modern ameritrash, only ever felt fun in retrospect when we told the games story, but it wasn't fun to randomly spawn a queen early, get instantly butchered and sit around for an hour. Or spend like half an hour doing nothing but walking through corridors.
I am confused that Origins is so much more expensive than Megafauna but I'll live. Next month will be a good month, right?
>>97627028I've had my eye on Sol. Tell me how it goes.
>>97626365then why didn't anybody suggest it?
>>97627028Good now that you got boop
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>>97627028As a fan of Boop, I would not pay full price for it. It's a handful of wooden tokens and a piece of cloth, that's it. Buy it used from BGG. Maybe try boop the Halls instead if you want to justify paying full price for it.
>>97625244OnitamaBoopHanamikojiBeer & BreadCompany of Heroes 2EMind BugHiveSummoner Wars
>>97626805Yeah, no shit. 20 pages of rules and it devolves into chucking dice to see who wins.
>>97626220>>97626195>>97625244supporting the addition of klask to this list and strongly suggesting toy battle
>>97625244Mind Bug
>Gym then wotr in the afternoon then brass in the evening We do be eating good today
>>97628048>this basic bitch menuWew lad. Way to announce you haven't been in the hobby enough to play 30 minute filler games exclusively.
>>97628150This gives "bet you can understand the rules to your game in 5 minutes" energy, but its way more clunky.
>>97628150The other day I chilled playing fields of fire, is that hardcore enough for you?
>>97628201No. Hardcore people grind Through the Desert all day.
>>97627599What game with dice does that not describe?
This is the official Catan post and I would like to announce that Settlers is a great game.
>>97628338Eclipse, but I'm told it's a euro.
>>97628389Never heard of it. Keep your niche shit out of our discussions.
>>97628338A lot of them, actually.>>97627599Needlessly reductive. That said, I really disliked most ameritrash I've played. The biggest exception being wotr but arguably that's a wargame
We don't talk about it as much but I feel like reminding everyone how goddamn good a game Pax Ren is. It's lightning in a bottle and one of the few times where eklunds autism actually doesn't hold the game back mechanically (I believe this is matt eklunds doing, havent played 1e though). Which is my biggest problem in his games. It's clunky but at the same time very fast, highly competitive yet offers an astronomically high quality of decision: time spent quotient. I'll try posting a few what to pick first pics if I have the time.
>>97625020Libertalia is qualityTortuga is alright>>97625244RiftforceToybattleYomi 2Puzzle Strike 2Burned
You and 3 other /bgg/ anons win a free 1-week stay at a lovely chalet. But... it falls to you to decide which board games you guys have for the week based on the given categories. What are your 12 choices? Will your fellow gamers be happy? Only the other anons here can judge your choices.(no rape or violence in the cabin)
>>97629354I can't fit all twelve in my suitcase soboop! and gokronologic and aegean seapendragon: the fall of roman briton and la famiglia
>>97629354
>>97629354Summoner WarsRace for the GalaxyAndroid: NetrunnerLost CitiesMagical AthleteHot StreakPitchCarThe Crew: Mission Deep SeaBusHansa TeutonicaArcsMansions of Madness>>97629390haven't played any of these. i'd like to play La Famiglia especially (the length keeps me away normally but a week in a chalet is the perfect time to try it)>>97629716i've played a few, would like to try a few more (Eclipse, Dune, Radlands). we'll have a good time
>>97629354>no rape or violence in the cabinYou can't rape the willing
>>97629354does the cabin have a cozy comfy snuggly cuck chair for people who don't like heavy games?
>>97628150>>97628178>>97628201>>97628276Kek why is this so true. It comes full circle, where the longer you're in the hobby the more you feel like playing fillers or light games
>>97630015E L E G A N C E
>>97629354>>97629390would play with>>97629716would play with>>97629790would play with
>>97629354HiveSummoner WarsToy BattleSantoriniHansa TeutonicaRaWar ChestZoo VadisEclipseHansa teutonica againArgentPax Pam>no rapeEh, actually never mind, I'm not going
>>97629790>Magical Athlete>Hot StreakDaring to bring both>Mansions of Madness in a cabinOkay that's kino
How's Feya's Swamp? Anyone played it yet? I'm expecting it to be slop, but I think it's based off of an older game, which gives me hope.
>>97630015Nah, I have gone back to heavier stuff already. In search of perfect midweight games atm, and I find myself going through the knizia ludography yet again.The man is a genuine genius and we are lucky to live in a time where he is alive and active. I imagine in his old age, his alzheimer ridden designs will leak into ameritrash territory
>>97630107He has more masterpieces than mostdesigners have games. I get the feeling as he gets older, he'll care less about making new stuff and working on "fixing" his flops. We might actually get a few more classics yet. Danke, Doktor
>>97630050>Eclipse>Hansa teutonica again>Argent>Pax PamUnfathomably based. I wish to be at this mans chalet.
>>97629354>Cozy winter cabin with bros and boardgamesLiterally a dream of mine
>>97630066>>Daring to bring bothit's the only way to figure out which one is the good one
>>97630172Same.
>>97629354Fuck that's a gorgeous cabin and place. You know where that is?
>>97630500Emerald Lake Lodge in Canada.
>>97630529Oh shit nta, but I've been there and seen that cabin during summer. Gorgeous place, the water really do be emerald
>>97630172>>97630345
>>97630104haven't but it looks gorgeous & comfy
>>97625244pax renaissance
>>97625244Court of the Medici
>>97631523>Andromeda's edge, ark nova, AND unconscious mindAre you having a giggle or do you unironically drink piss for fun?
>>97631523I'm in on Inis & Cyclades, going to skip most the rest
>>97631556Not for fun but there are some health benefits to it.
Finally, the Root sex Expansion is truly complete.
>>97631797sexo
>>97631797>lord of the hundreds is flat while her warriors all have boobaah so that's why the rat is so moody
Can you guys recommend me a solo/coop campaign tactics game that isn't hundreds of dollars?
>>97632082Have you tried D&D?
>>97632082basically any of the solo games The Player's Aid talks about. you will learn to love GMT and Osprey
>>97632089Yeah I kind of hate the DM experience. I do like the Adventure System board games
>another session of guards tonight>third one in the month after a year long dry spellFuck yes lets gooooooWhat game do you desperately want to return to?
>>97631797Where are the Hirelings?
>>97629354>(no rape or violence in the cabin)It's OK, I'll burn the cabin while I'm still outside.
Just played Viticulture: Bordeaux.It really made every action much more accessible. I pumped the yearly income up round 1 with the spring Trade option, cycled the purple and green markets, only used the starting feild, prioritized filling 3 4 point orders and just raked in points from 1s here and there.The originals feeling of being boxed in was absent. But that might be because it was trying to relieve that and it was a 3 player game.
>>97631797I commend your dedication but I still think what is essentially root furfaggotry needs to be purged by fire
>>97632082just accept frosthaven as your lord and savior. it's under $200
>>97632816>It really made every action much more accessibleBut that was the one thing viticulture did well imo, the basegame was extremely tight. Tuscany opened it up so much the weakness of the game was basically thrown in your face, I can't imagine what they did to go even further.Point is, the games core is too flawed. Some buildings are nigh useless, some are essential. The visitor cards vary so wildly in power level and usefulness depending on the point in the game the winner is largely determined by it. It's a very homosexual game and I am in awe how jamey managed to keep it relevant through the years.
>>97629354Twelve? You only need one when you've got THIS bad boy.
>>97633354Man I remember this. Could NOT stop playing it despite vaguely realizing how utterly shit it was
>videogames releasing boardgame versions like they're 2000s movies releasing vidya tie-ins>some of them are actually goodWhat title would you next like to see adapted to the tabletop?
>>97633709Black & White.But yes I am also suprised boardgame adaptations aren't immediately dismissable as utter trash
>>97633341Yes, I felt similar.I still think the original is a great intro to worker placement.
>>97623171>It's hard to pick a mechanism (type?) so abstractly, but auctions jump out as something that is almost universally engaging.Auctions are great when players have equal experience levels, but are very tricky to balance when some players know the game and what is roughly worth what and others don't.
>>97625020Merchants and MArauders?
I feel like busting out A Distant Plain for some strange reason
>>97626195are you looking for only 2p or games that have a good 2p mode if the latter RFTG
>>97633709>>97633883why is it surprising? plenty of videogames are just souped up boardgames with the computer moving all the pieces and remembering all the rules. there's more tests but they're of mostly the same kind. unless you're talking about adapting real time video games to turn based board games, those have a wider variance of quality
>>97633966it's just surprising because it used to be almost a guarantee that if a video game was adapted into other media it was going to be trash and a cash grab
>>97633965Not that anon but this never makes sense to me. When anyone asks for a game to play with x players, do they ever mean games that ONLY play x players? Is it ever useful to exclude games that can do different player counts? Just asking
>>97633966I think you've kind of got it the wrong way round, most boardgames actually take from strategy videogames and streamline the mechanics to be able to be played IRL
>>97634043if someone's asking for 3, 4, 5, however many players they're asking for a game that works well at that player count (and don't care if you can also play at other player counts)for some reason, when someone asks for 2 player games, they're sometimes asking for games that can ONLY be played at 2 players (i think it's usually newbies asking this). you're right, it doesn't make sense. but 2 players is a special case to some people for some reason.
>>97633966The comparison isn't wrong but pointless. You wouldn't compare paintings and movies either.In a sense a lot of videogame genres is "what if boardgame ruleset but almost no component and cognitive limitation" but that difference is absolutely huge. Also a reason why I consider these videogame-y grotesquely big campaign boxes a failure; they don't try to embrace the limitations of the hobby and make something great out of little but intead bloat up boxes and rulebooks. Essentially trying to be a physical videogame, which ends up being a fiddly mess that takes far too long yet doesn't even come close to the videogames it tries to copy.>>97634155Now that is quite the hot take
>>97634249I don't think it's really that hot of a take but /bgg/ tards will probably have ape'd out the next time I look at the threadMaybe at most you could say that videogames took from wargaming but modern boardgames absolutely take stuff from videogames, especially euros
>>97634312Name a few examples? I think there's a back and forth going on but I'd wager videogames took boardgame ideas way more often than the other way around. Civ games, Drafting, Tcgs, Rpgs, lots of different forms of gambling adjacent games, from the top of my head. The reason videogames use "cards" instead of something else is precisely because they take a known concept from boardgaming. Or am I missing your point and you meant something different?
>>97634210nta. Games for specific player count (solo only, 2p only, etc.) tend to be better designed and playtested for that player count. Also
>>97634436There are some games that are multiplayer and 2 player that have very good 2 player rules, and arguably are best at 2p (Race For The Galaxy is a big example), and there are others where the 2 player mode is clearly boltend and hacked on at is really not meant for 2P
anybody else have a killer playlist for every single board game they own? (and most of your friends' games)i wish this place wasn't such a doxxing risk so i could share with my friendos
>>97633709I think a Slay the Spire boardgame might be neat.
>>97634921This on loop, at Max volumehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvl092QgTJU
>>97622581>>what's your favorite mechanism?I've been liking deck building more and more over the years. In particular, the rapid recursive improvement of your deck in Dominion. That is a feeling I haven't had in any other game. >>what's your game of the year for 2025?The only one that really drew my attention was Star Trek Captain's Chair but it's probably the hype because I haven't played it yet. Haven't been able to find a copy yet. >>which 2026 release are you most excited for?The new starter set for Star Trek Captain's Chair. To be honest I'll probably skip buying it though. I'm really addicted to Dominion lately and just want to pick up more expansions.
>>97634981Holy based. I'll have to listen to "I wanna be black" while playing cross bronx expressw
>>97634921Our group has kind of an inside joke that if Return to Innocence is not played the board game meetup doesn't count.
>>97630015The problem I have with fillers is that we were either playing them until they bored me to tears or they only got played once. Then you have a pile of the things to give away and there is only so many games you can give to friends or family. The only thing I care about now is solo modes now for medium weight games that aren't too much of a headache to setup or put away.
>>97635206so just....don't do that?play them once or twice every now and thenwhen you're over them, cycle them out
>>97634921We usually put sem-thematic random songs on Spotify or Melodice but usually it's just regulat synthwave ambience or Italo Disco
>>97635007>rollmy nigga. post your cosmic frogs. you did paint them, right?
>>97634985dominion is the shittiest of the deckbuilders. in no particular order consider:arctic scavengersheart of crownclank!emminent domainbaseball 2045paperback or hardbackvalley of the kingstrains: rising sunbarbarossa
>>97635412I find most of the hatred for dominion comes from two things: dislike of a game with a fixed market and/or assumptions about the dominance of big moneyIt's a perfectly fine game imo
Lads, I do really like Benjamin & Thompson designs and have yet to try the Undaunted series. What's considered the best one in the series/that you've played. Including callisto and line of fire as well.
>>97635412you convinced mei'm going to get Star Realms
>>97635386I have never painted a single component of any board game I have ever owned.
>>97635464fixed market is fine, big money being the only strategy is boring as fuck. it's only popular because it was first not because it's good. it's the catan of deckbuilders.>>97635510star realms is a "market wags the dog" deckbuilder. you live or die on the flop. nothing you do matters because the RNG of the market is the only real factor. clank! has the same problem but since there is other stuff involved in the game it's not as crippling to the experience.>>97635513fuck you then, you're not my friend
>>97635522big money is not the only strategy
>>97635522As said, assumptions about big money.
>>97635547if so it's an edge case I've never seen. it's a bad deckbuilder, it's not worth playing the dozens or more times it would take to have a market that big money doesn't monopolize and even then you have to recognize and execute the alt strategy in this one off better than anyone with half a brain cell can follow big money.
>>97635582it doesn't take many games to realize it's shit. one of the clues is how entrenched dominion players are in insisting it's not a bad game.
mention Star Realms and big money inre: Dominion every time deckbuilders are mentioned and you'll get the same sperg out every single time without fail
>>97635592Barking up the wrong tree here, I've played it like 5 times in the last decade. It's neither a bad game nor is it the end all be all.>>97635592>one of the clues is how entrenched dominion players are in insisting it's not a bad game.That definition makes every single game with something resembling a community around it a shit game. Never seen a fan of something going "yeah actually it's shit"
>>97634975Do I have news for you
>>97635646>Never seen a fan of something going "yeah actually it's shit"me looking at my copy of Zoo Tycoon the Board Game
>>97635856That was poorly worded. Was meant in a sense that almost by definition, entrenched fans of X will defend it.But then I thought about how I felt about mtg for a long time before I quit
>>97622581I WON DUNE WITH THE BENE GESSERIT PREDICTION!!!How is everyone else's weekend going?
>>97633456It's simplistic but it's pretty fun, especially with younger players. All the simple pleasures of assembling a team of doods to advance and a board that feels like it rewards progression.
>>97636121I managed to fuck up my Bene Gesserit prediction... TWICE... in the same game. Just needed to tell another player to not use the correct treachery card, and I kept saying the wrong thing like the drunk retard that I am. Still won the game normally afterwards, but I'm not gonna live that one down.
I played Rebirth for the first time, I thought it was pretty damn good. You guys lied to me
>>97635582It's crazy how after all this time people still believe big money rules the meta of this game
>>97636121The first time I played Dune I lost to the Bene Gesserit predicting me.>>97636338I played that last night and until you mentioned it just now I had managed to forget about it.First place and second place went to the players who didn't get their farms choked out by nearby farms or fights over castles and there wasn't much else going on.I liked how the houses incidentally caused fights over castles but they usually didn't hold the castles and the castles weren't with splitting up farms.The cards were also a let down. I picked up maybe 7 of them and only 2 of them scored. 4 of them might have been impossible by the point I drew them.>>97636338>You guys lied to meSpeaking of which, I'm still want to hear from anyone here who has played Ape Town. I asked about it a few threads ago and the only answer I got cited a reviewer.
>>97636478>the castles weren't with splitting up farms.*worth
gmt really did publish all the booklets for Mr. President 2nd Ed
>>97635592>game is bad because...its players keep saying that it's good
>>97636338anons here desperately try to convince themselves that they already own the last good Kniziathe man is relentless
>>97636602people who insist Race for the Galaxy is good don't also refuse to play anything else.
>>97636268I would have won mine, but the idiot used a sheild ray when he literaly didn't have to when they clearly had lazers.He literaly made the game twice as long and have the win to the Guild (which I allied to). Fucking 4 hours made 10 because the guy who pulled out the game didn't understand his own game.I literaly suggested to the table he be allowed to undo that just to end the game early. They said No.
Pic related is the highest ranked lane battler on bgg at 206 with a rating of 7.8. The highest rated one with more than just a handful of ratings is Compile: Main 2 with a rating of 8.2.But the interesting part that actually surprised me is that in the entire bgg database there are only 86 lane battlers. Wtf? I always thought that's a pretty big category but there's not even 100 lane battlers. Really surprised me.
>>97636767His brain must be full of nothing but game ideas wtf
>>97638465Have you ever read an interview with him?That is exactly whats going on
Cole Wehrle is just Martin Wallace for another generation
>>97638644I don't know who Martin Wallace is so you might be right
Wtf
>>97638644Idk, Wallace actually made some mechanically well designed games and not just semi experimental messes
>>97638713>the more people, the less time it takesGenius
>>97638644I've met Wallace IRL and he's a cunt
I've met anon irl and he's a fagSomewhat related, does anyone have an experiences with Steam Power? It doesn't look like it's nearly as mean as I'd want it to be.
>>97636895the only players who refuse to play any other game are MTG players(you already knew this)
>>97639062put ygo players in that basket please
>>97633883Almighty on KS
>>97638713>15 minute sloppass
>>97639041i'm a fan of solar, myself
>>97636268I kept a Cheap Hero in my hand the entire game so I could throw a fight if the need arose. I've never been as stressed as I was waiting for everyone else to fall for my trap.I wouldn't have won except the Harkonen were in an alliance with the Atreides and had a fight with the Fremen over one of the settlements and the Fremen player won(it was 2 vs 8) and then the Harkonnen player pulled a traitor card out and it was over, the last two fights for their alliance to gain all four settlements were with me and I forced them to kill my leader on the first fight and played a cheap hero on the second fight and they won ties so even if they could have pulled off a score of Zero I was going to lose. The previous round nearly ruined me because they almost won the game and used Truthtrance to ask me if I had them as my prediction for that round, which I didn't thank god. It was sheer elegance in its simplicity.It was a glorious evening and I got to take home a pineapple!
>>97639062Tcg-players basically can't think.They front load the thought into the deck design and most fucking net-deck so they offload it onto someone else. They don't think without a script.Most of those jackasses come to sealed events knowing what cards to look for.I once got a few random mtg-players to try Love Letter, as its short and you learn as you play a round. They had trouble with it, its fucking LOVE LETTER it only has 8 different cards.
>>97639800I can't think of the exact term but it's a sort of anthropic effect; if your customers have critical thinking skills they won't buy bad product so you go out of business. Businesses that stay in business cater to retards.
Obligatory "How was your month" post. Played any gems?
>>97633964great timing
What game do you recommend if I'm in the mood to fuck up some middle eastern countries?
>>97640210See >>97633964
>>97640210Proliferation lets you nuke israel
>>97640210PaxRen, Pax Pamir, John Company and an infamous traffic if you dont mind going a bit more eastwards, 1979: Revolution in Iran, a distant plain, and PaxH+
>>97640210>Labyrinth>A Distant Plain>Next War Iran>Next War India Pakistan>FAB Golan>Valley of Tears>Heights of Courage>Great Battles of Alexander
>>97640084Mad jelly, I had like 2 gamedays woth a few bga games in the whole of feburary
>>97640084>5 counts digitalClank!>2 counts physical, 1 count digitalTargi>3 counts digitalWispwood>2 counts physicalMushroom SortWeb of Power>1 count physical, 1 count digitalClaim It!>2 counts digitalCartographersCodenamesDouble NineDungeons & Dragons Adventure SystemLimes>1 count physicalBetween Two CastlesConcordiaEGOGalactic RenaissanceHorseless CarriagePinatasRace for the GalaxyRailroad TilesRebirthSagrada>1 count digitalCarcassonne South SeasCarolus MagnusDale of MerchantsDragonheartLucky NumbersModern Art>honorable mention2 digital counts of Port Royal that started before February1 digital count of Pax Porfiriana that started before February1 digital count of Chakra that started in February but has not ended>Played any gems?Dale of Merchants was very good.Targi, Web of Power, Mushroom Sort, Race for the Galaxy, and Carcassonne South Seas are all very good. But I knew that going into the month.D&D Adventure System was good. I generally dislike co-ops, so that surprised me.Between Two Castles is good and it might be better than than Between Two Cities, I am not sure yet.Wispwood is probably not better than Cartographers, I am not sure yet, but it is good.
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>>97640671>Dale of Merchants was very goodCould you elaborate more on why it's good? I've been eyeing it out when I go to my LGS but since it's a card game with furry critters makes me think it was a one of those generic games you quickly forget.
>>97642133You win by tearing your deck apart so you have to make painful choices about when to give up on what. Also, most of the cards I played with had interesting effects.
>>97642133Damnit why do i keep forgetting to save my /bgg/ write up for DoM.I even reposted it a month or two ago.If I can find it I will repost it.
Boolit
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>>97640210What about fucking up one Middle Eastern city in particular?
I tried HackClad today.8/10 I liked it. I think I played the Clad cards wrong because it mostly flailed like a retard instead of feeling like a threat.
Which board games would work pretty well for tournament play? And I do mean board games, not card games.
>>97642490Tournament? There are tournaments for lots of games: Hive, Dune Uprising, Heat, many more...
>>97642490dexterity games in general2p low-randomness designs with playtime of under 45 minutes and very tidy setup/teardown and which happen to be fun even when you are getting your ass handed to youif you want my top pick I would go with klask or pic
>>97642227>write so much>say so little>except bitchin after dominion (pbuh)most implessive
Hey guys, wanted to ask if someone had scans of one of Domina Games small board games, Margot la fee, can't find it anywhere.Also wanted to ask about similar gothic designs in board games, since Domina ones look so nice
>>97642490have you tried root?
>>97642671Careful, you will summon the haters
>>97642714you don't want them at your tournament anyway
Root sucks cock
Looking back at this post >>97640671, I'd actually like to vent about EGO. I've played it about 7 times now and my opinion of it has gotten worse with each play.The only interesting part of the game is the auctions but the payout for hoarding resources is so high that the auctions are a waste of resources.The auctions still matter because you can dump excess resources that won't payout into them and if you duck out of auctions early it takes the pressure off so other people can conserve resources too while getting better outcomes than you, but it's a let down how often the correct choice is to duck out.At it's core EGO is about degenerate gambling, and it does that well, but I wish doing well at the auctions and doing well in the game were more aligned.
What is paul dennen's magnum opus?
>>97642925at least you can still risk to stay in auctions when you don't want to spend certain cards
>>97640084opinions on Pagan?
>>97643075Yeah it's real cool to risk taking outrage to possibly avoid being forced to take outrage. When I played last week I got 1st place with a final score of almost 70 points. Along the way I got 5th place in 2 of the auctions and 4th place in the other 3. I was deliberate about where I took 5th but the auctions are not a very important part of the game.
>>97642490Check out the WBC, but only the """serious""" main tournament(s?)Fwiw I have thought about this a bit and I think the vast majority of boardgames are rather poor tournament games. I sppose that there largely is not enough depth, a dominant strategy at high level play or luck plays too big a role.
>>97636381to be fair, i can see how some people misunderstand "this is the benchmark that your non bigmoney deck should be able to beat" as "big money is top tier and you should go for it because most people cant beat it and its as simple as buy money cards.". They're not wrong, but also not right, they're just not saying anything.
>>97642821And sucks it so good
>>97640671>5 counts digital>Clank!Steam version? does it have an active playerbase and how does it feel to play? Not too clunky I hope.
>>97643897Tabletop Simulator
>>97644020Oh.Ok then lol.
>>97643115I didn't particularly liked it to be honest. It has a nice pull and push feel to it between the Hunter and the Witch, but everything else felt mild or tacked on in a way. The bluffing/deduction aspect I was sold on wasn't that interesting, with placing small tokens to turn them into big tokens you need in order to fulfill your win condition of finding who the witch role is out of 9 possible villagers; making you want to distribute semi-evenly as the witch so the hunter has to guess between possible candidates before attempting a lynching. But the fact that you don't have that many tokens and opportunities to misdirect ends up telegraphing who the witch is to at most 2 characters in my opinion, maybe 3 if you found some good powers to combo from. And the Hunter will be drawing suspect cards to reduce the possibilities, which could basically annul possible characters the witch was using for misdirection.Regarding cardplay, it's pretty basic and while I know there's different characters that give you different powers in the worker placement part of your turn, at least the ones i played with and the witch deck itself didn't have any particularly interesting effects other than "place more tokens" or "remove opponent tokens", which makes sense since that's the central mechanic of the game, but it makes it feel blander and a kind of pointless at times. All in all, I would probably try it again if proposed to make sure there's more to it, but I'm not looking forward to it, I'd rather play some other kind of dueling game, like Sekigahara, 7WD or Patchwork
>>97639041I found it underwhelming, as you said it's not mean. It's not as bad as TTR but it's kind of like when you suck my dick, it's better than nothing but since I'm not a fag it's not really something I'd seek out.
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>>97640577>>97640084god how I hate you statistics retards. it's such a fucking dick pull to need to look at stats like this to try and see if you enjoyed yourself. It's like a fucking pedometer, you know how many steps from your smartwatch, whereas I know when I walked a long way because I was there walking and now my feet hurt.Incidentally I played Clank! Catacombs and it was a fucking rng fest beyond belief. Catacombs is so fucking random it made the next game, Terraforming Mars, seem like an euro.
>>97642218yass queen
>>97642490GWT1, although "work well" is a dubious phrase, GWT tournies live by the broken META in the same way minecraft speedrunners pick the most advantageous version.If I was going to do a tourney I would do bracket level games, as in:the first round would be 16 people playing GWT (4 games, top two move on)the next round would be 8 people playing Sons of Anarchy (2 games, top two move on)third round would be 4 people playing Arctic Scavengers (1 game, top two move on)The finale would be the top 2 players playing Twilight Struggle (1 game, one winner)
>>97642490Unironically Scythe with bidding for faction>dick pullWhat a complaisant expression, where does it come from?
>>97644434Lots of baseless assumptions, seems like a >you problem tbqh
>>97644434>it made the next game, Terraforming Mars, seem like an euro.What is his endgame>>97644477The final 1 person should have to play Spirit Island
>>97642490Abstracts, obviously
>>97645761>The final 1 person should have to play Spirit IslandNot Mr. President?
>>97645761>What is his endgameHe probably wants to become the next Spirit Island copypasta
>no /bgg/ multigame tournament >How come other boards gets their own olympics and here we just get Competitive Lewd Root shitposting?
>>97645893Lewd rootposting is based thougheverbeit
>>97645761>The final 1 person should have to play Spirit IslandWhy would you punish the winner
>>97645893I suspect very few boardgames solid enough to withstand serious tournament level testing and play. And for every Terra mystica or War of the ring there's like 10 more popular games that suck at tournament level. I mean, I know there's lotsa root and Ti4 tourneys but come on. I've semi followed the ti tourney scene via scpt and it's a complete and utter shitshow with no consistency whatsoever because so much is metagaming. Now you might rightfully say negotation is a skill as well, but I'm talking about metagaming in the sense of "x is considered the best player at the table, so we'll just kneecap him asap". Even watching it felt exhausting.As an aside I want to underscore how insane it is that war of the ring (with dwarven rings) is pretty balanced, what a goddamn game.
>>97646235what about just playing for fun in a structured manner? I would play Llama, Millenium Blades, Paths of Glory, and Uno with anons in a bracket just for the lolz
>>97633709There was a Team Fortress 2 monopoly game, and a Portal board game. How about a real TF2 board game?
>>97645869>>97646111What, you guys wanna haggle? You wanna fuck around? Fine by me, the last guy standing has to play Tainted Grail.>>97633709Advance Wars
>>97646360What would a TF2 board game actually look like?
>>97646435You could just visualy retheme any 2 player point control game, where the point moves as the game progresses.Fps's are more of an execution test than a strategic one.
>>97646411Bro I would play the crap out of an Advance Wars boardgame.
>>97633709Warhammer 40k Darktide could probably be adapted into a Hero Quest-type game.
>>97646718There's a Touhou Wars boardgame on TTS that's basically an AW reskin.
>>97640084I started tracking plays with marks on the top of my game box lids. It's mostly just games I finally got around to replaying. I mostly stopped buying games years ago but there were a few I wanted to try. Oddly enough I finally got around to playing Magic: The Gathering. I don't think it's a particularly great game to get into these days but it's worth it just to see how much it influenced pretty much everything that came after. I had some cards back in the 90s, but avoided it because it looked like a money sink. I'm glad I avoided Magic this long because I probably would have felt like a lot of modern games were too derivative if I played it earlier.
>>97647104>modern games were too derivativeHonestly most modern boardgames may use alot of standard tricks like tapping and resource pools, but they have next to nothing mechanicaly in common with MTG. Even mana was a 17th century idea (a misinterpreted one at that)
>>97646278>playing for fun in a structured manner?what are you gay?>millennium blades in a bracketI'm scared you're serious and not basking in the irony. Cosmic Encounter might actually be made for you.
>>97642671>>97642714root would be good for tournament since you could just run a simulation instead and no one would have to play root
>>97642227I read it all but still love Dominion. Thank you.
>>97646235I mean I think it was Tom Lehman that said a good modern board game should stand up to fifty plays. That's a fairly low standard in my opinion but I feel like half the games people talk about don't hit the table ten times much less fifty.
>>97647327Spirit Island, Arkham Horror LCG, and Res Arcana are three games I played in just the last week alone that borrow heavily from MTG. I think you seriously underestimate how influential that game is.
>>97640210guys I don't think anon intends to play any of your recs
>>97647606I'd say I get burnt out around 40, not that most games make it past 10-12. 51st state is arguably the better game but I've played it maybe 10 times whereas 7 wonders can hit the table 3 times consecutively in a single evening.
>>97647724when that one new guy comes to boardgames and says "I don't need to learn about the VP scoring, just how to play."
>>97647724ntaI've been pretty cool on labyrinth in the past but something about this most recent series of events made it click for me.
>going into turn 7>he is the USSR and he still hasnt played the China CardIs this some new 4D chess level play or is he just obtuse?
>>97648323he's on a god-draw and you're so far behind that nothing can save you
>>97648462>you're so far behind that nothing can save youI just died from "We Will Bury You" as he was sitting at -17VP and I had nothing but scoring cards left (despite crushing it in both regions), so this was chillingly prophetic.
>>97647828so...this has to be the next OP image, right?
>>97646435Guards of Atlantis with a focus on long range engagements and the wave replaced by control points/pushing a cart
>>97643115I think it's great. Not everyone is ready to jump into playing MTG or Netrunner and pagan does a good job of appealing to casuals while still being a card game with enough strategic depth
>>97648819That sounds..... shockingly doable. Which reminds me, I really need to play Guards. I went all-in on the latest kickstarter but haven't had a chance to play it yet.
Stationfall
>>97647606I share this opinion but if I look at the facts, it takes like a decade for the majority of heavier games to reach even 20. I don't know where I am exactly on the autismo to consoomer spectrum, I enjoy doing deep dives as well as exploring new systems - thing is, said deep dives often reveal perceived flaws that lessen my drive to get the game out.Example: I've recently posted about cooling down a bit on Argent after playing it another five or so times in short succession because I more and more realized a huge part of the games spells, items is more or less just fluff. Depending on what pink and black mages do the game might be over overwhelmingly fast, and it's in most players interest to push the tempo as to make good abilities that aren't placing a worker cost too much time. Additionally, IP is absolute king and the IP leader or second will very likely win the whole game because votes go to tiebreaker so often.So all in all my desire to play argent, despite it being a great game, has lessened for I have played it more often and noticed its flaws, and there is no escaping that. Now, as said, I can't tell if high replayability is a general problem in game design (playtesting being long, probably costly and essentially unrewarding as most people play them only 0-3 times anyway) or a me problem I don't really know. Give me your takes.
>>9764760650 plays with a game time of 2-3 hours means 100-150 hours which is more than your average vidya
Deckers is playing pretty great so far
>>97649604Interesting comparison. I suppose the average engagement time with any medium is relatively low, even if don't factor in the buy and never open it fags. I read a vanishingly small number of my books twice or more, don't much rewatch movies and so on. I suppose boardgames are actually the medium I use for the comparatively longest amount of time. Huh.
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>>97649717Yeah, and the only reason you can clock multiple thousands of hours on vidya is because you can play them 10 hours a day if you're unemployed or 3-4 a day if you have a job and you don't need to coordinate with other people thanks to matchmaking
>>97649628Nice. Solo?
>>97649561I roughly agree with your assessment. There are two avenues to approach here though. First is the tournament question. It takes a specific kind of game to be good in tournaments. Randomness is generally bad, the game must be really balanced and tight, skill ceiling must be high, and player interaction with > 2 players is a negative thing as it will lead to interpersonal dynamics dictating outcomes. And there are other aspects I haven't thought about. Modern games are not good at this for a multitude of reasons, the foremost of which are the lack of time and the lack of need to design and playtest games for tournaments. Nobody makes games for tournaments, games are made to have fun with.Fun is the more interesting aspect to me. I enjoy novelty and getting gud at something maybe at a 60-40 rate. Note: novelty is also in part influenced by getting gud, as interesting game states can open up as people learn to play the game.And on this aspect, while I would see myself agreeing that a good game needs to be capable of producing 50 plays, I think the criterion is lopsided towards simple games. So I would propose to standardise the criterion by play time and/or complexity. If the game takes the whole day and you manage to get 5 plays in through your entire life, and you enjoy it, that's still a good game.On that note also, as the resident Quartermaster General shill, I'll say that I'm officially done with QG: WW2. We have played it roughly 75 times as a group, and for me, the game is played out. I know each faction's strength and weaknesses, and the strategy to pursue for me is at this point mostly obvious at any given point. So the past few games have just been a series of mounting frustration over team mates who don't play well.Now, I think it's a great game. Would I still call it a great game if I reached that point by 50 games? 30? I'd probably put my limit in at somewhere between 10 and 20, because the exploration of the game was an absolute blast.
anyone here played the Undaunted games? thoughts?i messed around with Normandy a few years back — only the first scenario, always same side (don’t ask). was fun as hell, super tight, felt like every move actually mattered. kept trying new strategies, but after a while it hit me that the stats kinda favor one side.still had a good time though. every game felt like i almost had it, just one lucky shot away from pulling it off. but never actually won.so yeah, how do you guys deal with a game that feels awesome but you start realizing strategy doesn't change the outcome much?
>>97650182I find that 1v1 games just maintain replay value for much longer than anything else. Most multiplayer games have you play against the game as much as you play against other players, whereas 1v1s remain a game against your opponent first and foremost. t. Has 80 games of Washington’s War on Rally the Troops and could play more
>>97651041Undaunted is a very good, clean system with really fucking boring/shit scenario design imo.
