War Mister edition>Previous Heresy:>>97611233>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:If you (I) see a model and all you can think of is how you'd like to pull it apart to convert and kitbash it, do I (you) like the model or are you just lusting after a novel chassis?
>>97626834I wonder if there are edible Titans
>>97626834>If you (I) see a single woman and all you can think of is how you'd like to make her your wife, do I (you) like the woman or are you just lusting after a novel body?
Do you want them to show up? Do you want them in general, or do you simply lust after a new chassis to distract you from the yawing emptiness?
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>>97626923>lance>same reach as the sword...
>>97626923Now that these fuckers are here, GW finally had enough contents to put them together with armigers for a LI box.
>>97627209LIgma balls
>Cataphracti Terminator kit comes with 6 dudes>unit comes with 5 Seems like a pretty obvious opportunity to convert a character out of one. Can a Terminator character unlock vehicles? The detachment system is still a bit obtuse to me.
8th for Night Lords.
>>97627225a centurion unlocks 2 detachments because of Officer of the Linea consul unlocks 2 detachment because it's a command slot
>>97627225Anything that goes in a command slot grants access to at least one detachment of your choice - this includes things like command Rhino's. Depending on the detachment and type of vehicle you want you can take anywhere from one to eight vehicles for one command choice.
The classic Imperial vessel layout is what most of the Heresy-era ships probably looked like, with exceptions of course.. What would you want your flagship to be?
>>97627295>>97627239Looking at the rule book, if I’m reading this right, filling the High Command position gives you access to a Apex Detachment, and filling regular Command positions gives access to auxiliary detachments, seemingly two for each dude. Is there any issue sticking Command units in units in other detachments? Like I bring a Terminator Centurion to get the Shock Assault Detachment to bring Termies, and then he joins his buddies in their unit.
>>97627381Oberon class is also post-Heresy, being a variant of the Emperor class. Desolator class battleships and Vengeance class grand cruisers were around. Despoiler class as well (in a way) in the form of Terminus Est. Maybe some other ships as well, since many are described as old and obsolete or never given a clear indication they're post-Heresy production?>What would you want your flagship to be?/mydydes/ settle for a simple strike cruiser, enough to carry their company with support elements.
>>97626923I legit love this dude. He's like a big Armiger and I adore Armigers.
>>97627209LI/AT NEEDS plastic Armigers. Give me them JAMES! ffs
>>97627409Only centurions (or rather, the officer of the line rule, that centurions have) give you two auxiliary detachments. Regular command give you one detachment.You can attach characters to units like in previous editions, and there's no restriction between characters having to attach to units from the detachment they unlock. It only matters for force org slots.
>>97627535Hopefully they put a barrel cap piece on the Destrier Gatling because holy shit Questoris gatling is absolute fucked without it, and they had these prototype Questoris up on their store with a barrel cap on.
>>97627567I see, I was adding Centurions in New Recruit to click through options and they were giving me two. I’m sure I’ll figure it out by the time I actually have a force painted, I’m getting more of a understanding of it.
>>97627574>Questoris gatling is absolute fucked without iEh? I've not noticed a problem with my AT Questoris?
>>97627628Oh wait, you said Gatling. Sorry lol I made mine with thermal cannons
>>97627636>>97627628You get 1 of each gun, unless you build dual melee on your knight and skip the gatling.
>>97627645>You get 1 of each gunAnon doesn't buy the bits he wants to achieve the look he desires. Nasty.
>>97624960>AerthegnThanks anon I knew they existed but forgot their name.
>>97627739>what if red corsairs and space vikings weren't fucking lame and gay
I want to get into Heresy, but I'm undecided on the army. I'm thinking of either Iron Warriors or Loyalist Death Guard, because I really like the look of 30k vehicles and heavy weapons and these two feel like a good fit for that>Imperial Fistsdon't want to paint yellow>Iron Handswho?
>>97626923I mostly like them, but something's off about the heads. They're *too* knightly, like they literally just stuck medieval helmets on some mechs - all the other knight classes have heads that are clearly technological even where they're clearly aiming to evoke knightly helms.It makes them look uncomfortably like Warjacks. If they fix that issue, they'd be awesome. I'll wait for an STL to get made though, knights don't belong in 40K's model scale so I only use them at Epic/8mm and 15mm sizes.
>>97627205Oh I thought it was like a pile bunker and shoots straight out.
3rd and 4th edition epic really cooked with the scenarios and narrative play rules. Too bad they are the least compatible with Space Marine and Legions Imperialis
>>97627205I'm guessing it's less about the reach and more about acting as a piledriver. There seems to be a rocket engine at the back of the thing, so it's clearly designed for forceful thrusts. Get in close, line it up and ram it in.
>>97627840l-lewd
>>97627840you can just read the article instead of guessing.
>>97627853Why? It's just repeating what's obvious to anyone looking at the thing.
>>97626923I have never been a fan of the no-elbow chainsword. It works for the lance though.
>>97627381>What would you want your flagship to be?My battalion of Death Guard were sent to sow confusion and strike targets of opportunity away from the main line of advance while the push into the Coronid Deeps began. They were expected to operate independently for an extended period of time but weren't particularly well regarded by Mortarion so were assigned a heavy cruiser and a trio of frigates and sent on their way.
>>97627924>while the push into the Coronid Deeps began.Another Coronid Deeps lore fan?! Based, anon.
>>97627902Dude that looks fucking horrible
>>97627944I love Book 4, they finally break away from Isstvan and start the war proper. Solar Auxillia, Knight Houses, campaign rules, mentions of titans and Blackshields. Heady days.
>>97627978Battlefleet Gothic is my favourite game and bit of lore, and the storyline involved the Deeps, Port Maw, the story around Mezoa etc is my favourite bit of the HH lolThe Gothic Sector calls to me
>>97627902Reminds me of the knight character from Sleep Walking Orchestra by Bump of Chicken.
>>97627978Only the hard and strong may call themselves Astartes.Only the hard. Only the strong.
>>97628106
>>97628106What in the AI slop is this garbage
>>97628305Why it looks like Valdor punching Abaddon's face.
>>97626923>distract you from the yawing emptiness?Every time I pick up an order and open up the box, the very same thought hits me: "Does this box contain the happiness I seek?"The answer is always no, of course.
>>97628305It's not sloppa. It's drawn by Alex Cristi. Look it up friendo.
>>97628325Slop just means "something I dont like" now anon, keep up
>>97628332>t. guy who doesn't understand the concept of soul either
>>97628337That was sarcasm.
>>97628325It looks bad enough to be AI slop. Especially Valdor's spear just floating in front of Abbadon for no apparent reason is fucking retarded.
>>97628356Abaddon has literally grabbed the spear in that art and anyone who isn't blind can see that. It's very clear via the sense of motion what is being shown and thus I must declare you a retard, assign a (You) to your post and move on.
>It's a Knights episode
>>97628372That's what doesn't make sense retard. Even if a marine could hold a spear in place by merely pinch-gripping the tip which is a matter of plain physics not raw strength why the fuck would Abbadon even do that? Valdor isn't gonna thank him for holding his spear for him He isn't a DA after all Not to mention that holding an active power blade supposedly burning the gauntlet at best, still cutting through fingers at worst. It's mega retarded whatever explanation you try to conjure up for it.
>>97628356It's depicting a scene from TEATD.
>>97628428>Slop begets slop
Talk shit, get hit.
>>97626923If they don't give them to us I hope they take Cerastus knights off 40k
>>97628628Sweet army, also the vulturax is much bigger than I thought damn
>>97628106Holding that power halberd would mess up Abby's hand, poverty art
>>97628549saurce?
Wait Ligma Solar Auxilia tank commanders don't just have to be placed in a battle tank? I can put that little nigga in a Hellhammer?
>>97626923They've already confirmed its not coming to Horus Heresy. And from the looks of it, Cerastus will soon be Horus heresy exclusive. Lame ass GW execs think both games need to have completely different models.
>>97628747Wouldn't they sell more if models were shared?
>>97628704TEATD.
>>97628834Which do you think sells more (to a bean counter), army that can be used in two games or two armies for two games?
>>97628834but then they can't track which game it was used for and the office beancounters get headaches. Can't have that now! It'd be bad for the shareholders
>>97628857Meanwhile they keep putting kill teams in combat patrol boxes and they probably wonder why no one plays combat patrol despite the sales
>>97628854I do believe more people would use knights if they had twice as many games they could use them on
>>97628873Ah, but Kill Team isn't a real "game" - it's a development space for new units without disrupting the main codex releases. It's all still 40k sales
>>97628834Reminder that GW does not want your money
>>97628873Many couldn't play Killteam either with new release being FOMO hoarded by scalpers, and the funniest part is that scalper's price would still be cheaper than single releases by GW. /ktg/ pretty much dead because no one can fucking buy new products.
>>97628834Ah, but anon, those sales are going towards GW as whole, not to my team! How else will I prove my people aren't in danger of the guillotine if I'm just giving money to the other guys! The consequences of late stage, line must go up capitalism have been a disaster for the human race. Not as bad as communism though
>>97628549>Valdor couldn't finish off Abaddon who had gotten his ass whooped by space marines in that failed assault earlierlmao what a chump
>>97628968>/ktg/ pretty much dead because no one can fucking buy new products.OH NO THEY CAN'T GET THE BOX OF [faction] OFFICER, [faction] GUNNER, [faction] MELEE SPECIALIST, [faction] SHIELD GUY, [faction] COMMS GUY, [faction] CANNON FODDER?!?Seriously, who gives a shit about monopose glorified upgrade sprues.
>>97629108And yet KT kits have more options and customisation than 40k ones...
>>97628834The idea is to make you buy another army to play the other game while they're also using it to track the performance of model sales by game. There's a few oddities from this shit policy though>Armies that allow for far more conversion liberties like Imperialis Militia, Renegade Crowns, and Venators don't exist in GW's two flagship games (even if meant encouraging buying more GW models)>Daemon Princes and Belakor are among the select few who directly advertise as being usable in AoS and 40k on their own boxes with swappable features, like desecrating your base with a Primaris lieutenant>Imperial Knights and Custodes needed a bit of mercy for 40k specifically, because they would have jack shit otherwise; the latter even still officially coasts on basic Contemptors from the 30k range as a codex unit>40k cult legions just kind of do things arbitrarily, even more so than an Age of Empires tech tree>>97628747Cerastus chassis going to 40k Legends would be hilarious since it would likely just cuck Chaos Knights
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>>97629178wrong thread, my bad
quick question to run by y'all, can 40k's Inner Circle Companions be reasonably ran as a proxy for a Horusy Era Dark Angel unit? I got these little guys before really getting invested into HH stuff. I could return them I think, but it'd be nice if I could still use them for something.
>>97629187Definitely not. Also, here's a (You) award for such obvious bait!(You)
>>97629187No.
>>97629187You can cannibalize bits if you wanted to hang on to them. Or maybe hang onto them for 40k, since the Dark Angels are still secretly a Legion in 40k you can have your Heresy dudes be the direct predecessors of your 40k dudes.
>>97629187No.They're too tall, they have shartmaris helmets/backpacks/bracers/guns, and they're cringe.
>>97629274>and they're cringe.That's just part of being DA though.>t. a DA player
>>97629274trvth nvke
>>97622532>>97622559I'd buy them if they got a new plastic releases. I'm not even joking. I love these weird fucks.
Is this box good for a newfags? I already have one deimos rhino for the breachers and I suppose I would get a spartan for the termies, once I finish with this box ofc
>>97629350short answer: no
>>97627381>What would you want your flagship to be?There was a nice piece of fluff of Xana having fleets of automata battleships which is what I would probably do if I wanted to play BFHH so a carrier version of that that's big enough to carry 4-6 escorts. What I'm probably going to make first is a cruiser for my IH, one for my cybernetica legio and the Red Talon to run in epic armageddon.
>>97629187I have a better questionCould the Nephilim Jetfighter / Corvus Blackstar be reasonably converted into a Xiphon Interceptor proxy?
>>97629397>Xiphon Interceptor proxyAnon, it's like 20 pieces. Just recast the bloody thing and move on.
>>97629358why? are breachers bad? I know that the termies are scubtastic, but old kit is sold out at my place
>>97629397Depends on your definition of reasonably but I would just get the xyphon. It looks much better.
>>97629350If it's the only box you're getting, not really. Both breachers and the terminators kind of need a transport to really shine. The leviathan is nowhere near as bad as internet hyperbole makes them out to be, so if you like the models it's a decent value box.
>>97629443Just wait for the plastic release so you too can enjoy 300 premium plastic components instead of 20 gigacancerous chink resin parts!
>>97629445NTA but breachers are great. They're the only line unit marines have that can reliably blow up AV 14 tanks. Power maul cataphractii are a solid deterrent for keeping scoring units away from an objective after charging out their land raider.
>>97629445>>97629485DESU breachers are mehVet breachers though? Wew lads they are good.
>>97629474GW really needs to release plastic kits for the fire raptor and storm eagle already. Don't care about the parts count, I am not dealing with those long thin warped resin sheets.
>>97629495Nah dude breachers are an absolute terror for vehicles. Even if most of the unit is killed, as long as you have one or two breachers with lascutters left no vehicle is safe.
>>97629504Yeah....but vet breachers get 4 las cutters
>>97629187Not without a lot of conversion work to pass it off as artificer armor
>>97629311If these were the first ever "chaos titan" kits we get and we don't get the post-Beta Garmon Banelord in plastic I WILL RIOT
>>97629311Sabertooth had one of the two titans as one of the cards so it's not like they forgot about them.
>>97629521Which is massive overkill against most vehicles. Don't get me wrong, veteran breachers are great too, but unless you have to kill a super-heavy vehicle or spartan regularly they're a bit heavy on the point cost.
>>97629455that's fine, I was thinking about starting Heresy with that box and then expand with combat force box (or whatever combo box that comes out in the future), once I finish assembling and painting
>>97629561Granted i also use mine specifically to deal with things like Land raiders because ill either put them in a drill, or sling shot them in a rhino, also they are mean in melee becuase they are 2 wounds a peice and you just let the non las cutter guys soak up the hits while the las cutters just slice everything apart.
>>97629455Not that anon, but I had the “fantasy” of breachers hopping out of a Rhino when conceptualizing my list, so you’re saying that’s the more optimal way of playing them.
>>97629187Parts of them? Sure. But the general armor design is very clearly primaris in aesthetics which doesent really fit anything else in the game. The robes are also something that isnt really a thing in HH.
>>97629588Yes, it is. Mechanised infantry in general is very good this edition.
>>97629187Rope
>>97629556Anon that was like 20 years ago lmfao
>>97627739>>97627745I fucking love these dudes. This is my painting goal for my knights.
>>97629615>Sabertooth closed down in 2008>2008 was 18 years agoHoly fuck. Had to pull out the motherfucking calculator app on my laptop to make sure I wasn't messing up the subtraction.
Still seeking;Anons, do you have a link to the Horus Heresy Black Books that I could download? I was thinking of reading the Horus Heresy series of Black Library books, but I've been told the Black Books are like, the real canon of the Heresy. Any help would be appreciated. ( I figured it made more sense asking here than in the Share Thread )
>>97629742>>97558136 is it still up? test
>>97629570Lascutters may be just a single attack, but I think they are more reliable than meltaguns, and also have more utility than them, being both melee and range, as well as being cheaper. Imagine a measly rhino disembarks a squad that can kill a land raider!Idk if I should replace the rest of the unit's bolters with a couple power weapons or something
>>97629813So again im speaking only for vet breachers but i just run them with 5 bolters, 4 las cutters and a fist on the SGT. They do work.
>>97629832I could believe that unit being viable. If they are antitank, I assume their Rhino's gun is anti infantry. Havoc launcher?
>bought garrius because it's a great model to make agnostic>realized I don't have any spare cataphractii arms for the conversion I wanted to doOops.>got some spare indomitus bits and a body to two>indomitus marines have fuck all customizationPoop.
Traitor RG: Bird emblem or just XIX for their livery?
>>97629870nah lol.I run a siege breaker in that unit as well. and what i do is just sling shot them to the closest LR or something i want dead, and if something like say a terminator unit walks outta it, i still run into them with it, because they are still WS5, 2w vets with a 5++ so they wont die that quickly and the las cutter and a siege breaker with a hammer will do some work. they wont kill Elite legion specific TEQs but they will tie them up and wreck their transport.But for the rhino, yes i always take havoc launchers.
>>97629783Links are dead
>>97629187>>97629217>>97629199
>>97629742I'm the anon who tried to shake you out of your peer pressure opinion that the black books are "the real canon" by suggesting you read the 1989 Space Marine version of the Horus Heresy. Pic Related. I feel bad about bullying you instead of being helpful so here is a link to book 1https://litter.catbox.moe/xspbomd1k80xetq3.pdf
>>97628834Yes. But the studios don't get credit for the sales of kits branded for games from other studios, so they don't care about that, and the counters of beans who want to assess the performance of model kit ranges in minute detail really, really want model kit ranges to be as separate as possible.Yes this is counterproductive, yes it encourages wasting manufacturing and warehousing producing duplicated products, yes it will cause market cannibalization within their own company, yes it devalues their products by making them less usable, and yes it relies on faulty and demonstrably untrue logic about consumer spending. It's super obvious but for whatever reason GW is currently treating keeping main and specialist studio games separate as being more important than selling that product.
>>97630418the suggestion to read the OG epic version of the heresy was sarcastic btw, I forgot to say that. Although it is an amusing read knowing the more modern fluff.
>>97630432i am not surprised in the slightest; late stage capitalism is such a display of glorified mediocrity
>>97630432>>97630577This isnt an issue with capitalism. This is an issue of "the main games team or specialist games team are not "the company" and not interested with the well being of "the company""The separation of product lines wont be something mandated on down by the big boss bean counter interested in maximizing company profit, it will be the move of a department head interested in showing that their team is doing better and he needs a promotion, or that they should get more resources and funding, or that they shouldnt be fired, or whatever else.
>>97630418The honour of his legion ;__;
>>97628248I'd slap that and ride the ripples.
>>97629640Based.
>>97630418It's funny how they were called chapters back then
>>97630418moar OG heresy pls
>>97629187I like them a lot. Helmets are great. The banner is great source of a herald parts. the two handed swords are awesome sort of parts for Terran Great blades.
Wrapping up some tactical vets for the word bearers, ran out of primer for the last four so they'll get done in the next batch with their ride
>>97630418This is dope, source?
>>97630965sure fren. Have a Rogal draw like a 2000AD prog and some neat fluff about the end of the siege. there's also another bit that gives "For Horus and Humanity" as a traitor warcry which goes kind of hard>>97631206From the 1989 1st edition Space Marine rulebook (the one with the scarface marine on the front cover). It's not the first use of HH as a setting but it is the first to focus on space marines and primarchs rather than titans.
>>97631379forgot pic :(
>>97631384Yonnad ;__;
Are Assault Marines and Breachers fine to bring as line units or should I try to stick them in their own detachments? I want to bring a unit of both cause I just think they’re neat.
>>97631453Breachers sure, they have line 1 but are an acceptable addition to some despoilers or tacticals.Assault marines have the slight issue of not having line, but vanguard instead.
>>97627978Book 4 was great. The fluff was awesome, it was almost like a disaster movie in some respects with the way the traitors sweep everything aside more or less. Perfect mood setter for the true start of the 'age of darkness' and the apocalyptic feel of the heresy.
>>97631458Pretty sure he's talking about LI anon
>>97631505Don't be silly, no one plays LIgma
>>97631094>>97629187There's enough rope for everyone
>>97631379>1989 1st edition Space Marine rulebookwicked, found it
>>97630631stop arguing with somebody else's jerkoff fantasy you idiot
>>97629217>>97629274>>97629531>>97629599>>97629599Insightful. I probably won't bother then.I honestly didnt even know these guys were a primaris thing (what's the deal with those anyway?), i got them because they look cool on the box and i like dark angels
>>97631501>>97627978The Gothic Sector and, for lack of a better term, both the Gothic Wars we've seen in the lore (the Manachean War and Gothic War) are some of the best written 40k shit out there.
4 more members of my custard kill team, got 1 more to build.
>put a shield on my Assault Marine Sergeant cause I thought it’d be neat>apparently the rules say everyone or no one gets a shieldI guess it’s just decorative lmao. Good thing I had a extra pistol in holster so I could still model his gun.
>>97631800I know it's not supposed to but the thinner resin one makes it look feminine
>>97631566I like the fusion of 80s RT aesthetic and the heresy setting. Its a shame that by 2nd edition epic had if not abandoned the heresy had encompassed 40k as well and turned its focus to that. Luckily we're so fucking back Epic Battles in the Age of Heresy brosAlthough 2nd edition era Epic Renegades does give us far as I know the first mention of the daemon primarchs. It's all much of what you'd expect from Index Astartes until the present day. Fulgrim mentally manipulated by a slaanesh demon against his will, Magnus tolchoked by space wolves over psykana, Death Guard get stuck in the warp and go nurgle to escape the warp diseases which is interestingly consistent for an era when Chaos Squats were the ones creating techno-abominations instead of the dark mechanicum. The only outlier is Angron. No nails. He is instead of honourable if viciously brutal warrior and master tactician who joined horus under the premise of a "we the warriors must restore honour and vitality by the strength of our arms" military coup type deal and fell to khorne due to martial pride.
>>97631849meant for>>97631561
>>97631811I was thinking of getting either some dyke-ish escher head or the veiled head off lady Malays to troll with but I didn't want to make another order
>>97631670I’d read up more on Heresy Dark Angels if you wanted to know a good direction for your dudes. Everything that defines them in 40k doesn’t happen until post Heresy, so using their 40k bits is a lot more anachronistic than normal.
>>97631384>Digital laserF
>>97631919"Digital laser" is just a fancy way of saying "finger blaster".
>>97630577This is nothing to do with capitalism. Profit motive and a hierarchical organizational structure mean that this behavior is harmful to the bottom line and to investors, but is also easily corrected via top down mandate. GW Frequently mention in investor reports that they struggle with logistics, but they blast themselves in the foot by doing things like making 2 different versions of night goblin spearmen, one of which is just worse than the other, which requires different packaging, takes up its own warehouse space and takes valuable time on machines to make. That's not behavior that is concerned with profit, that's maladaptive behavior based on faulty implementation of performance tracking, it's just incompetent.What is supposed to happen is the the capitalist, or the proxy of the investors (CEO) is supposed to notice problems like this and get them fixed. What's insane is that these problems are so bad that they are apparent to GWs customers, are easy to fix, but seem to be getting worse.
>>97631673BFG flavor text is still some of the most soulful fluff I've come across. Every once in a while I reread all of the ships just because it's so provocative.
>>97631670They're a clusterfuck of bad lore choices, being Traitor Dark Angels (from the Heresy) who didn't go full Chaos so Lion (who just woke up), forgave them and installed them in the current Dark Angels and Primarisisified them.
>>97627956It's how the Cerastus does it, and it's the superior choice.
>>97632659It's kinda weird there's no morning star knight weapon. The lancer is kinda like it I suppose but also not quite
>>97630000No one acknowledged my question or my quads ;_;
>>97632777A skeleton bird emblem
>>97632777curseddouble ignored
>>97631804Combat shields should still allow the use of pistols like they used to
Which?
>>97632801Yes.
I’ve had a flash of inspiration, and would like a second opinion. How do you guys feel about Ultramarines with Averland Sunset trim? The idea in theory, is that post Calth mobilization of new Marines would leave less time to make sure their armor was ornamented correctly, so instead of proper gold trim they’re sent into battle with a warm yellow paint in line with 2nd edition trim.
>>97632801The Chode.
>>97632814Only if they have red bolters
>>97632856Of course
>>97632801None, they all look ass.
>>97632801personally:plasma, autocannon, rotor, volkite, flamer, flamer=underslungbazoo- missile=shouldermelta=rifle grip, maybe underslung for bunker/blast door bustinglas=rifle grip for practical, shoulder for "too heavy" in a good way, underslung for leg/infantry sweep (could fit WE)I also made this pic for shits n giggles years ago
>>97633026Terminators don't use suspensor webs, and never have. The armour's exoskeleton and servo motors provide the stability and power needed to carry and operate heavy weaponry.
>>97630631>>97630631>True capitalism has never been tried!
>>97632664>morning star knight weaponBecause somebody else made them look gay.
>>97632659Hope GW releases a plastic atrapos kit soon. The plastic cerastus knight is such a joy to build it's hard to go back to having to deal with resin.
>>97633026>half of HSS with shoulder fired weapons>other half with hip fired>arranged in two ranks
>>97633213if I ever decide to make a 10 man HSS I'm gonna do exactly what you wrote. hell, I might go elysian-with-bipod-melta crazy for an extra layer of dakka.
>Word Bearers, the very first Traitor Legion and the first ones to embrace Chaos, get their own Saturnines souped up on Daemon juice>just painted with a glow effect and some runes for good measure Bit lame stood next to the Gal Vorbak and Mhara Gal.
>>97632659Well besides not having a hand
>>97633319Speaking of Word bearers, I saw this just now and had a good chuckle.
>>97633319I like the buster arm.
>>97633319I imagine they didn’t have time to do a conversion before those had to be submitted for the article
>>97633319Missed opportunity to have warpfire bombards, as well.
>>97632814Reminder that originally trim denoted which company a squad belonged to, so there should be ultramarines with purple trim kicking around.
>>97633383The Ultramarines second company is legion sized.
>>97633383The trim denoting company seems to have been introduced with the Codex Astartes. Unless there’s some reference I’m missing, the Ultramarine Legion colors are primarily blue and gold with white for Sergeants and leadership. The Rogue Trader colors seem to have been canonized for the Heresy too, but that’s largely just adding stripes to beakies. My idea was to do warm yellow for the fake gold/retro call back to denote quick mobilization where proper ornamentation could not be followed, but also give them red weapons like some images show elite Ultramarines having (also a retro callback) in the same way they gave medals to soldiers before sending them to the meat grinder in WW2.
>>97633319did they ever explain how a marine fit into these things? do they wear stilts?
>>97632801Did you ever notice how the plasma cannon looks like a big fat throbbing cock?
>>97633482They are moving the suit with the powers of their mind, every pilot needs to be a minor psionic.
>>97631800A custode KT would just be one guy.
>>97631379>>97631384Thank you frend, have a nice weekend.
>>97633487Ok still doesn't explain how a marine fits into the suit.
>>97633488>single customisable mini, old marine captain style>create your own mary sue and rape enemy gangfund it
>>97633488There's no "I" in "team".
>>97633482Their limbs are in the warp.
>>97633488These guys job to jeanstealers so not really
>>97633495>create your own mary sue and rape enemy gangGiven the plot developments of Necromunda, there's maybe some chance of Imperial Fists getting their hands dirty there so we're probably not far off.
>>97633497But there is an "I" in "win"
>>97633486>Dark Angels is the Legion who holds the most plasma weaponry, fielding special variants of them as wellAh.
>>97633319Theyre a conversion only unit. So just make them look however you want.
>>97633319Plenty of the WBfags of /hhg/ converted them with daemonic bits
Bought a reaver.What Legio should I paint it as?Loyalist preferred.
Assist me. anons! I can't decide how to paint my LI and AT god engines. I'm currently debating whether I want to play Legio Tempestus and House Ærthegn because as I said here >>97631673 the Gothic Sector and all its accompanying lore is my favourite part of 40k and I'd love to have the forces that took part in the Manachean War. (I also want to get some of the Dark Mech Stalkers so if I did those I could paint them up like they're from Cyclothrathe!)But, Vengeful Spirit and Titandeath (despite both being very flawed) might be my favourite HH books. I fucking LOVE Legio Vulpa and House Devine and think their colours look fucking suck and would they'd probably look great on the table.Help me choose, anons.
>>97633931I vote Vulpa and Devine, lore wise they're equally as cool as the former pair but have cooler colours
>>97633931Vulpa and Devine. They're cooler.
>>97633910Legio Defensor always catch my eye on the loyalist front.Kinda lame fluff tho
>>97631505I was going to paint the warhounds I got in the LI starter set as Audax but that's just because I'm a certified warhound appreciator over bigger titansPic not very related but Metalica is a good paint scheme aesthetically
>>97633910Osedax!
>>97633931If you're interested in playing them Legio Vulpa has much more fun rules than Tempestus
>>97633497but there is a me
>>97633332>I need 5 inductii with attitude
>>97633488yeah, that guy
>>97633487So how do the World Eaters use them? Since the Nails kill psykers and they all died after Nuceria.
>>97633487>>97634773You don't need actual psychic powers. It's more an innate affinity with machines in the same way printers cause errors with people, but behave when you come around. Too minor to be detected, closer than intuition and goodwill than actual warp phenomena.https://youtu.be/CPNEEhDVGSo?si=h6FVge3iJjOXzece?t=111
>>97634773Saturnine armour suits are piloted using the black carapace interface, in addition to a neural interface link similar to those used in dreadnoughts and titans. The lore also mentions a rumour that cybertheurgic resonance is also required, but we never got exact details. Considering everybody that isn't a psychic blank has some level of connection to the Warp, it could just be that having a little above average psychic potential is beneficial - which would still be many levels below the psychic talent needed to become a librarian.
>>97634840>Have always had a fascination with machines and mechanics>Have had many experiences of some person asking me to fix something, not being able to find any problem, then receiving a very well meant thanks afterwards because the device has kept working without issues...am I a latent cybertheurgic psyker?
>>97634773It's more like a titan or Dreadnaught mind interface. The Saturnine book mentions it agrevates the nails so they selected inductii the least affected by the nails to pilot Saturnine suits.
>>97634583what is the blue helmet design?
>>97633497Custodes are male lions not wolves ADB said so, they fight alone JUST fine.
>>97633827DA are noble arthurian space knights not faggots tho the rock gay bar reference is not funny anymore.Now that's out of the way, let's get back to the plasma cock topic.
las cutter used to be a "rape on 4+". why did HH1 and 2 (and 3?) nerf it to the ground?
>>97634931The knight lancer pilot
>>97634869I do believe that's unironically how Techmarine candidates are selected for their pilgrimage to Mars
>>97634363WAACfaggotry>>97633931Devine is the coolest House in all of 40k. Play them.
>>97635227>WAACfaggotry>In TitanicusVulpa rules are abouy getting your titans into melee faster.Tempestus is about shooting your guns when you die and and making them stronger if you are damaged. Which sounds like WAAC, exactly?
>>97634869Placebo's one hell of a drug.
Started work on some legs, thing i might go with black and white, based on Fang Joker.
>>97635375Based
>>97635333Withdrawn.
>>97635227>They're more fun!>That's WAACfaggotry!???
>>97635333>>97634363>>97634093>>97633980It hath been decided! I shall play Legio Vulpa and House Devine :)Thanks anons!
>>97635351alcoholic kind of mood
Did we ever get a scan of Journal Tactica Skitarii? I must be retarded as I cant seem to find it on the archive.
>>97635400That Warhound is 'armless
What's the best way to magnetize the plastic rapier?
>>97635700That's why it's running away.
Why did the Salamanders and Death Guard lose so many named characters after 1st edition?
Kill Lupercal is pretty decent. Not good enough to pay for though
>>97635741pretty much yeah
>>97635741yes, yes, however...the animators forgot to remove the 40k aquilas from the models they used for the traitor shadowswords, they're only visible for like a second though
>>97635741It's not that it's not good enough to pay for it's that warhammer+ is not good enough and does not have enough good material to rent in order to watch it
>>97635741If you can "acquire" Kill Lupercal and Sigmar's Toll they are worth watching, aye.
>>97635797Hate how the locked some cool models behind that shit
>>97635842Everything is always available from somewhere else
>>97635848>>97635797Worst part is, these aren't a free bonus, tlyou still have have to pay for them, which is wild people tolerate that
>>97635874I thought you got one "free" but have to buy more?
>>97635935Yeah my bad, am dumb
Big guy with big gun: sick-ass spear or cool-ass lightning claw?
>>97635033do yourself a favor and look up the original rules for thunder hammers, then ask yourself why they got nerfed
Can Breachers ride in Rhinos?I have 4 Rhinos but don't want to run 4 tac squads.
>>97636035Yes. Honestly one of the best changes in 3.0 because breachers being stuck with land raiders only as dedicated transport option was just retarded. No one in their right mind is taking a 250+ points transport for a sub-200 points troops choice.
>>97636059Alright, cool. I'll see if my LGS has any of the upgrade kits and make some of the MK2 guys from Saturnine into Breachers instead.
>>97635072oh wow
>>97635724No models no rules GW retardation
Can the HH 2.0 box Marines be given weapons from the separate weapon sprues? I got a box of heavy weapons dirt cheap and I'm looking cheap marines to put them on.
>>97636219Yes, that was the entire point of the plastic launch with 2.0
>>97636272Fucking sick, thanks anon
>rape opponent t1>he counter-rapes me t2>battle ends in a 15-15 tie
>>97636788Those are some of the best, most exciting battles.
It would be KINO if we got Lucius-pattern Titans. They're design is infinitely more badass than the Mars-pattern. They could even have something as simple as worse weapons but better defence or some shit, just to give 'em an excuse to be release.
>>97636824There's already STL's out there for lucius patterns of most titans. And with how good filament printing is becoming you don't even need to deal with a resin printer any more.Just having them as alternative models using the same unit profiles makes the most sense I think, they're using the same weapons after all.
TOP KNOTS ARE LAME
>>97636974>Knots :3
>>97633482
>>97636824Lucious, huh. I thought it was "lucian."Anyway, yeah those things slap
>>97634112also this is really a daydream idea unless I get a 3D printer or become much richer but I'd love to get a old epic scale Imperator titan paint it up as Legio Oberon defaced with Audax markings and banners. Depicting the Corinthian (which never comes up again after Betrayer) for narrative games of LI>>97635705>That's why it's running away.that makes sense. AT has classic epic style hit location damage and limb specific damage tables?
>>97636817It was insane>my rhino ran over his 5 praetorians + champ who were bullying 2 fleeing inductii for 6 hits>he put them all on the champ, who whiffed>throw my champ, jorlund hunters, MoD with hammer at them, they slaughter the hunters so I lose combat and everyone breaks>knight (who has been pinned since the first turn thanks to a graviton cannon) lights up my fleeing champion>3 praetorians decide to bully MoD>he inv saves all their bullshit claw attacks, then hits all 3 of his attacks to splatter them
>>97637025Current AT is Legs, Body, Head, Weapon, and Special (which is body on anything other than a warmaster). It's a special dice that comes in the starter set
Just gotta figure out how to plug the weapon into the armor and what to put on the belt.
>>97637074Would have positioned the volkite culverin a bit higher. Now it looks like he's using it as a walking cane.
>>97637080He's a bit lopsided eithout the base, it's just above ground level. The leather danglers kept me from posing the arms differently, that's the only chainfist arm I had.
>>97637074use stranded bare copper wire of plausible size glued rigid with greenstuff or something else as bands.
Am I hallucinating or weren't there a few 3-player (loyalist vs traitor vs blackshield) missions? They aren't in Retribution or Battle for Beta-Garmon
>>97637147I mean I have to make a socket to plug the wires into, or a power pack for the gun itself.
>>97637227Just make it yourself I belief in u :) . If Jervis Johnson can make a 5 player (3 imperial, 2 ork all with the same points) game fair and balanced you can make a 3 way work.
>>97635703magnets
Is it bad that I still have trouble figuring out what Horus was so mad about?
>>97637677his legacy, terras bureaucracy catching up, big e fucking off to finish the webway and dumping the weight of warmaster onto himpick and choose what you like really
>>97637739>dad gave me too much responsibility>im going insaneee!!!
>>97637677Half the fun is coming up with a reason for Horus' betrayal that makes sense to you.I particularly like the Legions Rights angle of marines being effectively servants unto death rather than champions, as even mere mortals can get acres of conquered land as their retirement yet it is marines who bled for those worlds and they got no say in imperial governance, which is all the more tragically ironic as one of the concessions for space marine chapters in 40k is precisely that, as they are all effectively planetary governors of their chapter planets, complete with the usual Imperial Tithe pardoned and swapped for 5% geneseed shipment.
>>97637677It's basically:>I'm feeling super fucking pressured at suddenly being in charge of the entire Great Crusade with no way to DM pops for advicecombined with>I got shanked by some sharp magic rock and now I'm hearing voices?!
>>97633910Astorum or Ignatum>>97634112Ignatum is a really nice legion, I like when people do the hexagonal detailsPic related, my guys
>>97637869These look pretty neat at this scale, I’m really tempted to look for some at the lgs that carries Ligma and Titanicus
>>97637677>dad doesn't want to spend time with me anymore>these FUCKING NORMALFAGS are overruling me>am I going to get Thunder Warrior'd?
I need reaper autocannons.NOW.
The points scaling of Titans in modern AT is the same as in Space Marine/Epic 2nd edition so the points cost for that Imperator at 2250 pt would be accurate (4 1/2 Warlords). Too bad I don't have a full datasheet for it because otherwise you could drop it straight into a modern game with minor modification.
>>97637948they're great kits, and get more pose-able as the titan gets biggerI have a warmaster and three 30k scale ones on the table but need to get my airbush up and running again for some of them
>>97627902I agree that extra articulation would be nice because knights can't plausibly hit anything smaller than a Dreadnought with their sword, but it looks terrible with a hand.
>>97626834I love the Horus heresy it’s probably my favourite setting, but fucking NO ONE plays it around me.. how do I cope with this feel? I’ve held off buying more stuff because what’s the point
>>97637677Horus got mad because HR pencil pushers was taking over the Imperium while him, his brothers and sons had bled to build said empire. Weak people create hard times.
>>97636987Is this true? Are they mini dreadnoughts?
>>97633487Do you have a book source for this lore?
>>97638718You gotta sell the setting to them, time to groom your local players, start by telling them to read the first three horus heresy black library books, starting with Horus Rising. Or ask them to listen to the audiobook while painting.
>>97638472Agreed, functional arms should reach your thighs
Is the Colchisian language (Gal Vorbak, Vakrah Jal, Mhara Gal) based on a anything or is it just tribal sounding gibberish?
>>97638818That's just how people speak in Colchester.
>>97638818not really, maybe a slight persian vibe.
Thred is beb...
>>97638818>>97638948It's inspired by cuneiform. Based on ancient sumerian
sum inductii
>>97638818in antiquity, Colchis was an actual region in what has become modern-day Georgia (the country); I suppose it's possible they're speaking Georgian but it does seem more like Klingon-style repetition of sounds rather than a natural languageColchis was probably picked as a name because it's ancient Greek (the Colchisians called themselves Egrisi) so it fits with the Legion greco-roman theme; also because it was the home of the golden fleece in Greek legend
>>97639150if it was sumerian, "gal" would be "shud"
>>97639193Inspired by, friend
>>97639206OK but it doesn't use sumerian words or sumerian grammar
>>97639241Oh no, absolutely. It's basically an englishman's idea of what ancient mesopotamian languages sound like without actually researching them
>>97639174Those look great anon, would you mind if I asked for the recipe for the red and gold?
>>97639174Even their eye liner is on point, damn
>>97637869sneaky italian titan
>>97639174and a dread
>>97639374sure, red is baal red airbrushed over vallejo liquid metal rich gold, with gloss varnish for good measure>>97639391they have to look good, also they have to be unhelmeted for the nose twitch
>>97638718Mention it at (and order models through) your LGS.Go on your local Warhammer social media groups and talk about it.I tried starting in the 1.0 days, had no luck during 2.0, then 3.0 dropped and suddenly there are three of us.
>>97638718ease them in with ZM games or killteam games using the Herald of ruin rules for HH.
>>97639109I really can't decide if these guys are ass or not
Wish I wasn't trying to save money right now, I really want to get some tanks for my IW.
>>97639886Scratchbuild them for maximum SOVL.In the end, they are just metal boxes.Very easy shapes. The hardest part are the tracks but I am sure you will be able to find some reasonably cheap tank models to use as base..
>>97639610The warhound?I realised that as soon as I finished it.
>>97639927Post scratchbuilt tanks you got
>putting basilicanum grey on metal to darken it before drybrushing on a brighter silver>going on splotchy and weird>water it down>it suddenly goes on as expected Damn you really gotta water down all of your paints….
>When you can't find that one bit you've been saving for a project
>>97640066I have none but I am fully capable of making them. Picrel, my WIP, drednought weapon.
>>97640108Cool, please make one and post pics here
>>97640102yeah and if you don't the GW pots dry out
I wonder when the Sanguinius was Khorne's first pick meme will finally die.
Sunday Funday!
>>97640192I no longer experience fun.
>>97640314Do you play Iron Warriors?
>>97640326Nah, I play Crippling Depression. It's a bit of a shit faction but I liked the lore.
I remember a Horus Heresy short story involving Ultramarines fighting a Slaaneshi Reaver during the Shadow Crusade. Anyone know the name?
>>97640335Nope
>>97640335I found it! It was a Warlord Titan lolThe name of the story is "The Laurel of Defiance"
Titan
>>97640617>>97626834
>>97639109Exemplary Battles units were a fun little time, wish we could see some more of these "homebrew" units on the board. Just making some shit up for flavor, rules unnecessary and strictly optional.
>>97640699I think the HH team saw how popular the exemplary battle things were and decided to monetise it. That's why we got those journal tactica now, they're pretty much the same thing but now we gotta pay for it.
>>97640328>Nah, I play Crippling Depression. It's a bit of a shit faction but I liked the lore.I hear the newest Errata buffed their "Lack of interest in anything" rule at least.
>>97640730GW sucks so hard
>>97640314>>97640328Depression is a sign something in your life is off, so figure it out and fix it. It's like a tooth ache telling you to go to the dentist.
What are the chances we see new SoS units soon?Models anyway, not just rules likes in 2nd.
>>97640797>Just fix itThanks.
>>97640829I WANT NEW SOS! SOS ARE KINO AND I DEMAND MORE OF THEM!!!
>>97640829Nil
>>97640840They aren't that kino, really. Especially when they all have dumb hair lmao
>>97640851Oh, hi Contrarian anon! I was wondering where you were :)
>>97640105Finally fucking found it, thank fuck.
>>97640166I don't get the hype for Sanguinius, I've read his Primarch novel, Echoes of Eternity, Malevolence, and a bunch of the short stories featuring him and he just comes across as another extermination specialist rather than this noble hero everyone hypes him up as. Like I get thats all Primarchs to a degree, but despite the memes most of them didn't just go "lol lets kill them all" whenever they got mad like Sanguinius does. Remember how 63-19 killed one of Horus' favourite sons and the Warmaster still tried to avoid excessive collateral damage? In fact I'd even go so far as to say Sanguinius was the most inhuman Primarch, which honestly makes sense given that he's an Angel. No wonder he was so insecure about getting erased, if I were the Emperor I'd put him in the same boat as post-nails Angron and the Night Haunter when the Crusade was over. At least you didn't have to worry about someone like Mortarion trying to drink your blood.
I seem to recall talk a while back of AT/LI Titans getting an upgrade kit to make 'em into proper Chaos Titans. That's never going to happen, is it? I'll need to customise and Chaos-uo my Titans myself won't I?
>>97640840I love them man.I found scans of the Vigilator and Prosecutors so I can save some money on doing more.>>97640850I have some slight hope but yeah probably.
>>97640915Kino models anon
>>97640881>I don't get the hype for Sanguinius >I've read his Primarch novel, Echoes of Eternity, Malevolence, and a bunch of the short stories featuring himAh, so you've only read about Sanguinius in BL slop. That would explain it, yes.
>>97640882Yep. Chaos knight rules were abandoned as well. For the best
>>97641174>For the bestBitch FAK YOU bitch
>>97641160Malevolence isn't BL
>>97640882I still pray we get Chaos Titan bits someday but for now customising and/or 3d print is your best bet.
>>97640730they were more likely a pitch to see how popular the concept was
>>97641231It was released after Bligh's passing, which puts it on the same level as BL slop
>>97641323Unfortunately there isn't anything else to go off of because the BA barely feature in the other Black Books
>>97640868NTA but that's hardly a contrarian opinion, nobody likes top knots lmao.
I wanted to make a cool Blackshield but this guy is more a son of horus
>>97641858More of a White Scars marine actually, they got top knots too and that's a WS helmet if I'm not mistaken.
Give me a combi volkite/grenade launcher.
>>97640829Very low, I remember a clip of someone asking about it during the Custard reveal and they had nothing to say
I’m leaning towards getting Volkite Cataphractii Termies, is there any advantage the bolter ones have over them? I imagine they would have leas points cost overall.
>>97642015More shots, more range, look worse, weaker.
two months nowalso making homemade tufts is hard
>>97640829Probably the best candidate for a 'new' plastic faction release, at least when compared to>Dark Mechanicum would probably just build off its parent faction with more token traitor exclusives™ (plastic Decimator would be cool though)>Ruinstorm Daemons have like single digit unique models in resin and a dedicated model line could align with the model range SPLEET GW is so insistent on>Imperialis Militia is the designated homebrew army that the specialist games seemingly have>Imperial Army really only needs dedicated infantry boxes but GW probably just wants to sell SA instead>who the fuck knows if Citadel would have the balls to do plastic titansOn the other hand, designers probably have their hands full with porting more shit to plastic for everyone
>>97641991We need a plastic combi weapons upgrade kit and soon in addition to a change for combi-plasma, the current weapon profile is not worth 10 points ever
>>97642015Same points cost, against the most common targets volkite chargers are very slightly worse than combi bolters but it literally doesn't make a difference just pick whichever one you like the look of better
Would 15mm minis look wildly out of scale with LI and AT stuff? I need some serfs, flunkies and civilians for basing and terrain and 6mm is quite barren.I used to have some 15mm monks somewhere and remember them being about epic sized.
Fuck yeah
>>97642377Is current li/at 8mm? 15mm would be nearly double the size they should be
>>97642905Which makes them perfect for bases since they'll actually fit.
>>97640835It's your life it's our responsibility, don't be a faggot. Do you expect others to breath for you as well?
>>97640840No we get troonstodes instead because GW doesn't care about actual foid representation only Blackrock woke politics.
>>97643193>*isn't>*breatheSeething so hard bitch can't even spell.
>>97643196SoS were unironically better female representation. A force as powerful as the Custodes relied upon them, they had a key place in the Emperor's plans, could do things the men of the Custodes could not etc but...nah, let's just make Femstodes.
>>97643200>could do things the men of the Custodes could notLike having the strongest member of their order get accidentally killed by a raving lunatic without noticing
>>97643203You know the point I'm making, don't be a FOID.
>>97642905I'll have to fish out those monks from bits box because I swear they along with most others I've seen are stubbier than GW would make them at that scale.
>>97643200They were/are great fem rep, but GW is dumb.
Do Destroyer Squads have rules anywhere? It doesn’t seem to be in the Liber Astartes books. If not, what troop option would be the best stand in for them? Breachers seem fun, but wonder if I’m missing something.
>>97640829Haha, oh dear me no. Now the weenies are running the show at GW they don't have to pretend they want to expand the background in interesting ways to add more diversity anymore, they can just do what they always wanted to do: remake what already exists. Now they can get away with Femstodes, Sisters will be a permanent afterthought.
>>97643279They're in the Legacies PDF.
>>97643284>dual pistols are hard to come by>the kits are 75 usd for 5Damn that’s a shame. I suppose I can load a squad of something up with special weapons to play pretend as a Destroyer Squad. Also it seems strange that Siege Terminators are Legends too, that seems like a very Heresy thing, almost as strange as Indomitus Terminators having Heresy rules at all.
>>97643312Hold on a minute, it seems like the war gear loadout got folded into the Despoiler squad. Still a pain cause you need ti convert a kit into one, but you can have a fitting troop option for Destroyer Squads.
>>97640922Thank you!>>97641994>>97643282God damn it.
>>97630148>>97629604Are you retarded? Genuine question, be honest
>>97640829kill team will add them eventually as it happened with a bunch of other minor factions
>>97640611Here's a fun tidbit. The Titan in that story is meant to be a Banelord, however according to NuLore/Retcons it cannot be as the first Banelord was created after the end of the Beta-Garmon campaign.So either the story takes place much later in the timeline compared to when it says it is set, or it's been Retconned and the Titan is merely Warp mutated generic Chaos Titan.
>>97643566That is actually kinda interesting. The timeline of the Heresy is fucked these days lol
>>97643566...a slaaneshi banelord? The khorne titan?
>>97643686I was mistaken about what kind of Titan is it. It's a Banelord lol>>97643566 is right
>>97643566>according to NuLore/Retcons it cannot be as the first Banelord was created after the end of the Beta-Garmon campaign.Easily the coolest moment in Titandeath tbhon. Book was great but that moment was something else haha
I found it :) Also the Hellstorm firing 3 large blast templates in rim contact with each at AP -2 is metal as fuck. Although if I understand barrage points correctly technically it would be hitting any models under the pie plate on a 3+ which is slightly less metal but still neat. >>97643843Speaking of Titandeath if I ever paint a loyalist warhound I'd choose Solaria as I love the mint green livery. As to if the anon asking about what to paint his titans should choose them it depends on how hot he finds of MENA women.
>>97643895I fucking love Solaria! If I wasn't playing Traitors they'd be my go-to Loyalist Legio
>>97643199Says the self-defeatist Dilbert downer. Fix your shit don't complain here.
>>97643200Yes Custodes had good synergy with Sisters of Silence, as seen during the raping of Prospero.
>>97643945I'm literally not depressedanon, I'm merely amused by you seething so bad your ability to type is fading lol
>>97643895SOVL
Kill Psykers. Behead Psykers. Roundhouse kick a Psyker into the rockcrete. Slam dunk a baby Psyker into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Witches. Defecate in Psykers food. Launch Psykers into the sun. Shoot Sorcerers with Lantern. Toss Psykers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Psykers recaff. Throw Psykers from cliffs. Shove Sorcerers into a wood chipper. Twist Psyker heads off. Report Psykers to the Black Ships. Split Psykers in half with Silence. Curb stomp pregnant Witches. Trap Psykers in quicksand. Crush Psykers in the trash compactor. Bathe Psykers in Phosphex. Grind Psyker bones into dust. Dissect Psykers. Exterminate Psykers in the gas chamber. Stomp Psyker skulls with ceramite boots. Cremate Psykers in the oven. Throw Rad-Grenades at Psykers. Lobotomize Psykers. Mandatory abortions for Psykers. Grind Psyker fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Psykers in fried grox grease. Vaporize Sorcerers with a meltagun. Kick old Psykers down the stairs. Feed Psykers to Ogryn. Slice Psykers with a power sword.
>>97643974I'm ESL saar.
>>97644071If you did that to Calas you wouldn't have a legion of poop.
>>97644071When you want to improve the world, always start with yourself :^)
>>97643200trvth nvke
>>97644141That's why I plan to kill myself when I turn 40!
Play 40K
>>97644272
>>97644272>Eye of Terror
5 or 10 man for support squads?I have a 5 man squad of Missile Launchers and a 10 man squad of Autocannons. The 10man squad feels like it might be too many points for what it offers (3E).
>>97644272You could not pay me to play 10th>t.nidfag
>>97644521Yeah, you guys got pretty fucked, huh?Battleshock is such ass.
>>97644376The eye of terror exists in 30k
>>97644534battleshock's assSynapse is assShadow in the Warp is assPsychics assMy datasheet are assMy detachments are assAt least I have been mostly enjoying 3rd edition and TOW so it's not a total loss
>>97644622We had the Eye of Terror campaign over two decades ago.
>>97644690People currently playing 40k weren't alive yet at the time.
>>97644521Never forget what they took from you. I'll admit it, 9th edition word bearers is the most fun I'd had with the game in 10 years, especially before the gay ass patch that removed the synergy of being able to use any daemon strategem on any daemon unit, CSM or Chaos Daemon. Felt more word bearers than even 1st edition HH dark brethren...
>>97644726The 9th edition tyranid codex is unironically one of, if not the most flavorful codex GW has ever written across its 30 year history
>>97644690I hate that modern 40k is just "Hey remember all that shit that did really well? Yeah just keep repeating that dont bother making anything new."
>>97644272How can it be eye of terror when they destroyed that part of the setting?
>>97644794>Lets do it again, but worse!To be fair we can't really talk, HH is nothing but poorly executed nostalgia bait.
>>97644817Modern hh? nah i would say they are at least trying new theaters but the problem is the lore is lame and no one really cares.
>>97644817I find it....Pretty good when it's not talking about primarchs?That rules out all the novels of course.
>>97642377Yes unless you are talking about robots in which case they fit very well.
>>97644272I'd rather fellate a shotgun if my life went so wrong that I would willingly play 40k.
>>97644272After how they raped Apocalypse last time, I don't get the hype.
>>97644965>ass raped apocI get what they were trying to do with Apoc, and some of the things were OK, but i think they lost the plot and the point of Apoc games. They tried to make Apoc games something you could do in an afternoon, but failed to realize the entire point of why people like Apoc games is because they want to play big ass multi day Apoc games with all their cool toys.
I've finally decided the name of my Chaos Titan! I've even got a bit of /mydudes/ lore for-What?I've 4 more to name?!And the Knights?!Oh...
>>97645118Best thing about naming things is anything you can ever come up with will be better than what Black Library has done.Stupid names like Angron the angry, Angrath the angry-wrathful, Malok the bad guy (malo).
>>97645118what is the name
>>97645166Namegron
>>97645166Malefica Dominatus. It was a Reaver belonging to Legio Gryphonicus named Glory Dominatus that Vulpa brought low during the early days of the Beta-Garmon. Vulpa's tech-thralls repaired the machine, and the priests of Davon imbued it with daemonic life at the behest of, quite likely mad, Princeps DeSant, who now commands the deamonic God-Engine.
>>97645220>DavonI ALWAYS misspell Davin >:(
>>97645220>Cool name>Gryphonicus getting fucked up>Davin Priests remembered>Decent idea for an eeeeevil TitanI like it.
>>97645240Davon is the ladies
Rules for Madail when?
>>97645055but that doesn't require any changing of the rules. just use... big army...?The nu-apoc (and presumably this nu-nu-apoc) ruleset was for people who did want to play massive battles but didn't want to die of old age before the first turn was over.
>>97645348Plastic Ruinstorm Daemons when?
>>97645447Hopefully never, that's when you'll get gayass equipment restrictions
>>97645447Next Thursday.
>>97645354Yeah that was the problme with nu and nu nu apoc. There did need to be some rules for apoc though like the old school formation rules were really fucking cool and the massive fortresses you could buy were really fun. You also had to house rule things for example my group we would do a normal army pool, so like "Hey bring 5k or 6k points of an army, then we will have a 6k titan pool that is separate from the rest of the army and the titans cant target anything but other titans for the first 2 rounds."That was because other wise who ever went first basically wiped out the other sides army before they could even do shit.
>>97645348I don't even know what novels he's in
>>97645475None of the good ones.
>>97645505
>>97644272Being supplement mogged by 40k is shameful.
>>97645562>I MUST CONSUUUUUME!KYS
>>97645220>>97645161People trying to make /yourdudes/ is cringe af tbhon
>>97645714Better to play your own whatshisname than play some BL dude written by Abnett.
>>97645738Horus Heresy is, basically, a historical game with tons of lore. You're meant to study it, find something/someone you like and play that. 40k is the /yourdudes/ game, not 40k.
>>97645752Yeah, it's a historical where 99% of pages are lost and are meant to be inferred and filled by players. You're probably that autist that refuses to have WS and UM fight because "they never do that in any of the novels".
>>97645780Unironically, WS and UM wouldn't fight lmfao none of the traitor WS we know of ever interacted with the UM.
>>97645791That and the fact that the WS were literally out on the fucking edge of the galaxy doing what ever the fuck they wanted.
>>97645714>>97645752>>97645791>So creatively stunted he can't imagine anything outside of BL slopYikes.
>>97645800>M-muh dudes would totally do that!No they wouldn't. Respect the lore of GTFO.
>>97645752>40k is the /yourdudes/ game, not 40k.
>>97645220I like it anon, but Malefica Dominatus sounds rather dramatic and ott for a Reaver, perhaps make that you're Warlord?
>>97645808not Horus Heresy, don't be FOID/QUEER. You knew what I meant.
Idk if Melta should only work on vehicles. Like Dreads are armored ceramite'd or something?
>>97645805>Unless daddy GW publishes a story about it, it didn't happen!Guess the Imperial Army doesn't exist either.
>>97645830>Nigga never read Legion or any of the other novels featuring the IAJust admit you can't read.
>>97645799Then Ultramarines can't fight can't fight Emperor's Children, or Iron Warriors, or Death Guard, or Thousand Sons, or Sons of Horus, or any loyalist, or basically anyone.According to you, all World Eaters got the nails. Then Endryd Haar arrived, with an excuse on how his whole force didn't get the nails.You cannot think anything your BL masters don't allow you to.
>>97645856You're the kind of tit that uses Chaos Marines in 30k and cries "BUT THEY WERE LIKE THIS IN THE LAST 5 DAYS OF THE SIEGE OF TERRA! IT'S 100% LEGIT!!!" while fighting battles on Isstvan.
>>97645834Not that anon, I read Legion. I strongly discourage you from reading it. That "Imperial Army" looks NOTHING like what you'd expect Imperials to look like. They use crawler vehicles, got gravity pikes, don't actually ever use a Leman Russ. And nobody liked the other parts of that novel, especially the Cabal.As for all those other novels prominently featuring the IA...what are they? Not trying to be funny or anything, I really want to know. I heard the Raven Guard are assisted by a guy who's called a "caesar" because that's what Legates are called like in his world, and his force is used as bait on Narsis?I'd like to read more about Lucifer Blacks though.
>>97645881Nta but god I fucking hate people like that with every fiber of my being to the point that if we ever had purges like that one movie I know where I would visit first.
>>97645562Thank god it never happened then.
>>97645898NTA NTA but, the Raven Guard books feature the IA a decent amount, might be the only good fucking part of those disasters. A few short stories also feature them, one involving Malcador has the IA in it as main characters. It's called The Remains or something.
>>97645881>IN THE LAST 5 DAYS OF THE SIEGE OF TERRA!Try the first 5 days. Or book 2.Blood Angels didn't have Illiastus guns until the last 55 days of the war. And White Scars didn't, for some reason
>>97645898Nta either, that's just a single regiment. Other regiments use different, wondrous things, some of which were never seen before the crusade and would never be seen again which is a thing that I feel really encapsulates 30k as a whole.
>>97645933nta but I posted this and far more proof about Chaos Marines being usable in 30k a while back and was basically crucified lmfao Good luck if you pick up this cross!
>>97645935Not in any of the rulebooks or novels, so all of that isn't real.
>>97645933That's not even GC Night Lords tier
>>97645933>Blood Angels didn't have Illiastus guns until the last 55 days of the war. And Manus died in the opening salvos of the Heresy, but still gets to have rules for the whole thing.
>>97645675I like it when games have fun expansion packs.
>>97646010At least Magnus has the excuse of "The Warp did it"Ferrus got decapitated frame one of the HH yet still got rules and a model.
2 lascutters or gravgun+lascutter?
>>97646141Two lascutters.
>>97646010>And Manus died in the opening salvos of the HeresyVery much so. And Tarvitz dies even earlier on Istvaan 3. Should he be banned from being used against, say, Alpha Legion? I say let people have fun, write your own explanation if you want.Though when fighting loyalist vs loyalist, coming up with stuff is better than "it's a simulation" or "they were lied to buy AL"; those reasons are kind of too used up.
>>97646141neitherTake 10 vet breachers an take 4 lascutters
Need to fill the gaps but zoom!!!
>>97645963It's both in BL and FW.
shall I make a new drop site?
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>>97645933>their armour had bones and blood and ashes on it with helmets amplifying their voice and some of them use whips>this means they threw out all the armour they have used for 200 years and used that one specific type they would use 10k years from now which isn't even used by all of the csm.This makes no sense. I think the first thing I would notice when seeing them if the latter were the case would be all the fucking trim and the arrows. It would read more like>our former brothers were glistening with golden accents so much that I had trouble identifying them as part of the 3rd legion. And the spikes, by the Emperor, the spikes... I think some of them accidentally poked each other bloody when engaging us in melee. They all had a symbol with 8 arrows somewhere on them.I doubt that in the time it took to corrupt the ECs they could have remade their armours to that degree while still fooling the loyalists into believing that nothing had changed and go down into isstvan 3.
>>97638818It's Enochian.
