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New Year edition

>Bans (new)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97619213

>TQ
What do you hope for this year of Magic?
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Boycott UB
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>>97630912
>tq
DEATH
I want to see profit numbers plummet
I want to see player numbers plummet
I want to see attendance numbers plummet
I want to see stream viewer numbers plummet
I want to see number of wotc youtube and other ecelebs viewers numbers plummet
I want to see it all burn
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>>97630912
All Incarnations seem to match their Regular art except Vibrance.
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>>97630947
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>>97630947
He just got really fat
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>>97630973
He lost the branches and got animal paws.
Also the regular art has Kithkin on it yet it is Catharsis that creates the tokens.
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>>97630912
This NEVER ever happening again.
And EVERY single one UB trash failing.
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the response to a large tmnt flop as large as/larger than spiderman will be to institute a company policy that every ub must be strong enough to rotate vintage in an effort to sell packs
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>>97631024
you can tell i didn't proofread this but idc
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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home.
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>>97631024
I am 100% sure they will axe all standard and modern strong decks with bans to literally force turtle slop into the meta.
I CAN FEEL IT
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>>97630912
>What do you hope for this year of Magic?
I hope Strixhaven and Reality Fracture are good
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>>97630912
>TQ
Slightly less kiked mono white cards for Standard
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>>97631040
Stay with your kind.
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>>97631040
I'm poor
play pauper[/spoiler
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>>97631002
Thank god we get Trek to save the year for us
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old frame pauper
well actually old frame peasant so that i can use fact or fiction and flametongue kavu
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>>97631051
How are you enjoying your Turtle Pizza slop?
Tastes good?
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/mutants-and-mutagen-in-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles
Mutagen was originally mutate/champion hybrid. By paying the Mutagen cost you exile a creature until it leaves the battlefield and gains that creature's type.
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The prerelease attendance has been a cowabummer
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Rolling up to my LGS prerelease like
https://youtu.be/Z74hjn5rMuU
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play

premodern
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>>97630912
>TQ
I hope Jace fucking dies
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>>97631061
This. Just this.
Captain of the Enterprise, Jean Luc Picard, will soon save Magic and turn this trash game into the best TCG in the whole world.
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>>97631143
This is gonna be the best set of the year though.
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>>97631212
Except he will be black
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>>97631040
Buy an ad
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Predict how bad TMNT will be
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>>97631365
Sloppabunga
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Play pre pauper
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Okay, quick question. I know Karai is on Karai's Technique and Karai, Future of the Foot, but is she on art of any other card or variant in the set? I'm gonna try and look through scryfall but
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>>97631450
...I figured I'd check and see if any of you guys who actually pay attention to prerelease might know off the top of your heads.
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>>97631450
https://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Akarai
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>>97631480
>teen
oh my, oh my, oh my~
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>>97631480
>https://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Akarai
You're a lifesaver, thanks.
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If I want to enter local Premodern tournaments and I care about winning them, are there any reasons to build anything besides Dreadnought?
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I quit Magic after Aetherdrift and cashed out my infinite MTGO account to write a short story about what if Pat Chapin were a real wizard. if anyone wants the link, let me know. it's on Amazon now and free tomorrow through the 3rd
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are Legacy leagues easy to go infinite on or do all of the people I watch play them only upload the ones where they win?
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Non-red haste is cool
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>>97631694
110 card mono white control
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What the hobbits offer that LotR didn't have?
why not making the simarillion?
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>Finally get my first opportunity to do FNM since December
>Throw a deck together without testing it
>Go to only LGS in 15-mile radius
>"Sorry, all the standard regulars are doing TMNT prerelease"
>Event was sold out (32 people)
Who the fuck looked through this set and determined it was worth the $40 prerelease?
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>>97631909
I don't go to them because I don't like buying product but if you're a regular in your local scene then Prereleases are fun pretty much no matter what the set is.
It's the only time most people get to play Sealed.
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>>97631867
That'll be next. They will milk the FUCK out of LoTR just like they did with the ridiculous hobbit trilogy. The Hobbit should have been at most 2 films of exactly 2 hours each.

Rangs of power UB when?
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>>97631867
an opportunity to print a new badass female elf warrior card.
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Who else thinks Suits wants to do another Squeenix Collab ($$$$), but the only thing they give easy is Nier. And the hambeast at wotc are against i t
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>>97631909
I have come to accept that mtg players have the lowest bar possible. You'd need like a year of spiderman tier blunders to deter them.
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>>97631974
I think they're going to hop on the Expedition 33 train about a year too late next.
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>>97631694
>If I want to enter local Premodern tournaments and I care about winning them, are there any reasons to build anything besides Dreadnought?

Yes. Sligh.
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>>97632002
>Sligh
I fucking knew you premodern spammers were ELS faggots. Now I have proof.
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>>97632002
but Dreadnought farms the mono red decks and Sligh being so popular and accessible is a big part of why Dreadnought is #1.
what's the advantage to playing Sligh?
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>>97632011
Sligh is a deck you retard.
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>>97632011
nice falseflag
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PRE

MODERN
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>>97631694
Enchantress and Replenish are also extremely strong choices you should consider. So which of the 3 better fits your playstyle I guess.
Alternatively, Oath Ponza decks also do good in some tournament metagames.
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>>97632035
BUY

AN AD
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>>97631723
That sounds cool anon I would like to read your story.
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>>97632012
>what's the advantage to playing Sligh
Slight can go gear 1 extremely fast, and the new lists that have been showing up with Pyrostatic Pillar, Flame Rift and Black Vise in the main board really farm the control meta decks.
I think it really depends on your local metagame, but even with 4 Mogg Salvage coming in from the sideboard, Burn still has a tough match-up against Stiflenought. Though if there are no Stiflenought players in your local meta, then...
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>>97631051
>>97631340
>>97632046
samefag
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TMNT was one of the best experiences I've had at prerelease in a long time! From the little I played, this limited format may be among the best in years!
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>>97632047

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GQHKJPYP/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2480QFADIDR9W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ChXPTqlJGp9bHI3EYhPrYg.2GNxmPMABdMaBrF24XTnhIaEexnqMGcXH32DAl1uGFc&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+chemical+divorce&qid=1772212709&s=digital-text&sprefix=the+chemical+divor%2Cdigital-text%2C3812&sr=1-1#featureBulletsAndDetailBullets_feature_div
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>>97632056
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>>97632094
It's all me, actually
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>>97632011
pathetic display, faggot, time to end yourself.
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>2026
>they still aren't play Premodern
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premodern is a solved format
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>>97632155
How so?
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>>97632060
Thanks for sharing anon!!! So glad you are happy with the pizza they are feeding all those pigs like yourself :^]
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I was enamored by premodern until it got on MTGO and the meta game actually developed and instantly went stale. We should just make a rotating format that randomly churns through older sets so that the meta remains fresh. Call it Senile Standard.
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Who's your favorite idiot, /tg/?
>>97631052
Even tournaments usually allow 10+ proxies. If you go for newer printings of the cards, they're typically very cheap. Give it a shot anon, it's a lot of fun.
>>97631694
Yeah, absolutely. You only have 4 Dreadnought, and you won't always have them early. Killed plenty of Dreadnought players before they even saw one.
>swords
>edicts
>shattering pulse
>naturalize
It's far from unbeatable.
>>97632155
Not really. Tweaking can let you spike different matchups, and there are still plenty of cards/deck configurations that haven't been tested. For example, the GW madness deck that's been doing well recently was previously unexplored to a large degree. I ran a deck similar back in the day with Anurid Brushhopper and Rancor instead of Patrol Hound and Tribe, and it was also good. It costs nothing to brew.
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>>97631450
>Future of the Foot
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>>97632212
Haha, thank you anon! The store did feed us pizza!
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>>97632220
>Pic
A deck with all the Phantom boys and stuff like Earthquake sounds kind of cute but I doubt it would actually be any good. It's too much effort to get a situational one sided wipe.
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>>97632285
Could be a fun kitchen table deck. Phantom Centaur beats ass either way. Definitely deserves more play, even if only in the SB.
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>>97629937
>Fight spells
Flavorfully interesting, but mechanically redundant when direct removal is in white's pie. The reason green, and to a lesser extent, red get it is because their creature removal is weaker, and fighting is conditional.
>Tax-based counterspells
Could work but WotC designs for people on Arena that cry every time they walk into 1U.
>Trample (large groups)
This is largely redundant because it's already very difficult to block a wide board, especially with an anthem on top. It's not out of the realm of possibility but mechanically is a bit weird.

>>97630077
>Haste
I mean technically sure but we already know how hasted token spam ends as design space.
>Phasing attached to bodies with draw
This is Hearthstone/MH-tier overloaded design that does fucking everything on a body for no reason. WotC probably will end up printing this at some point but I don't want to be around for that.

>>97630092
truke
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>>97631459
Damn sneak in this is shit. I wish modern wasn't as fucked as it is now, otherwise I would make a shit Dust elemental deck.
>>97632151
>>they still aren't play Premodern
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Went to the tmnt pre-release played some draft. The sneak mechanic is kinda weak but i wemt 2-1 with it and suprisingly has some aggro applications i was able to do some nutty amount of damage with it.

Had fun drafting turtles. Got my boy Casey too.
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>>97632218
>MTGO and the meta game actually developed and instantly went stale

This happened for a few reasons.
Some cards are now extremely expensive on MTGO due to the recent boom in players and grinders. This makes creating certain decks prohibitive.

Certain strategies are tedious and not very MOL friendly to replicate, as they require many clicks and loops (Doomsday, Iggy Pop, and Aluren).
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>>97630947
These don't really seem mythic rare quality, they kind of suck.
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>>97632218
Play cube, you're forced to try different decks which keeps it interesting.
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think my LGS had 8 people show up for tmnt prerelease LMAO. lorwyn was sold out and had like 60-70 people
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>>97632570
My LGS cancelled the event. I got an email from the owner that he was deeply disappointed in the community for "fucking him like this". He posted a video of him loading a revolver. Should I be concerned?
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Why is pauper so fun?
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>Decide to try Pioneer again
>Face Phoenix
>Get them down to zero cards in hand, zero board state while I have two bodies and a Lili.

>They draw Prankster
>Finds a Cruise and dumps two Phoenixes
>Oops they have 12 power and a full hand now.
>My entire board gets cleared from removal they draw.
>They started the turn with zero board presence and zero cards in hand.
>I die instantly.

Ah, yes. Now I remember why I stopped playing Pioneer.
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>>97632654

it's the most fun because it's such low power level. no fetches, no walkers, no powercrept mythics.
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If Homelands were released today, how much power creep would be needed to make the cards playable?
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>>97632838
take the colourless mana cost off everything.
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>>97632838
The problem with homelands wasn't the setting. The setting itself was pretty decent. The problem was the mechanics. They were lacking and didn't convey anything that interesting from the story. If they released it today they would need to rework the entire set from the ground up. The set was also somewhat fucked over by not having rares and only commons/uncommons.
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>>97632838
Not much
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>>97632901
>not an enchantment that lets you tutor every turn
Literally unplayable.
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As the Nebraska boom continued, other states continue to suffer from the drought
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>>97632923
>As the Nebraska boom continued, other states continue to suffer from the drought
As an LGS in Nebraska, I'm thankful. It's very easy to get product here.
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>>97632885
>The problem was the mechanics.
I'd argue that, from our current perspective, the problem was the power level. >>97632859 is correct: the costs were too high, even the filtering non-basics cost too much mana to make mana.

In fairness to the set, at the time no one really knew what Magic should be. Homelands, like Fallen Empires, was designed by the East Coast team that got axed afterwards. Ice Age, released between those two, was absolute head-to-head winner - but it also sat on the design back-burner for much longer and grew to the size of a base set, especially with the reprints (functional or identical) that it accumulated. Ice Age was effectively self-contained as a result (which actually lined up with Garfiield's original intent) and could stand on its own legs, whereas a significant chunk of FE/HL content was literal duplicates distinguised only by art/flavor text. Alliances was the merging point, but Ice Age/West Coast design philosophy was the clear winner in the aftermath.

So I don't think it's fair to judge FE/HL by West Coast standards. But also, I think it couldn't really stand up on its own, at a time when that was expected of Magic products.
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Skipped turtles, stayed home and watched the D&D honor among thieves movie.
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>>97632885
>The set was also somewhat fucked over by not having rares and only commons/uncommons.
Ah, right, almost missed that point. Yeah that was definitely something people in the 90s hated about The Dark / Fallen Empires / Alliances. Of course this was before colored set symbols so no one actually knew about rarity on release, but eventually WOTC put checklists up on its website. Rarity was listed as "C6" or U2" - indicating how many times a given card appeared on the sheet when the cards were printed. I still remember in-person and online arguments about if "U1" is technically identical to a rare, and how repackers would advertise "Rares only, none of that Homelands uncommon crap!" when selling on eBay.

But if you look it up now, you'll notice WOTC errata'd the rarity itself. Gatherer says Apocalypse Chime is a Rare, so Scryfall and everyone else follows suit. Well fuck that. I still remember having to download .txt files and copy/paste stuff in Word to make Haves/Wants lists for online trading. Apocalypse Chime is U1 and my hard drive still has a file that says so. And the original card order before collector numbers put colors alphabetically too - Black, Blue, Green, Red, White; then Artifact, Land, Multicolor. I still remember, Wizards! If I can't get this out of my head after 30 years, you don't get to hide it either!
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Damn another prerelease? Wasn't Lorwyn less than 1 month ago?

KAMIGAWABUNGA!
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Im skipping the pre to play coommander instead.
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>>97633037
did this and then watched simic players solitaire for 40 mins and remembered why i dont play transmander
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>>97633046
I wonder how long it will take for Redditors to finally start noticing astroturfed viral marketing.
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>>97633044
*I* am the one who plays simic.

j/k, I play Izzet and Orzhov because Im not trans.
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>>97633053
You think those redd*t posts are wotc paid shills?
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Pioneer Merfolk are fun!
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>>97632971
>>97633017
I wasn't around at the time (I was a toddler) but I've read the comic which I quite enjoyed. It just has no unique mechanics. Nothing that really goes: this is how the set is defined. Even if you changed the costs of things it would still feel bland and like it wasn't evocative of the plane it's trying to show. For example Innistrad has very specific mechanics like flip cards, curses, graveyard matters etc. If they remade Homelands I would like to see some more unique mechanics that really fit the themes of the set.

But of course we're not getting anything like that. They'll just print more and more UB shit like TMNT. Given all the Sony crossovers my guess is Elden Ring and other playstation stuff are going to be announced. If they make a nier automata secret lair I will consoom and oink as I do
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>>97633037
>>97633044
i skipped to play pauper
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Set's out guys, its safe to admit you all went to prerelease and had fun :)
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>>97633095
I haven't gone to a prerelease since Ravnica
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>>97633092
Based. Normally I would play Pauper but I promised the lovable village idiot that Id play commander with him this week. Ive also been buying a ton of pauper cards on tcg player. Im not sure what rogue deck I want to run next but it may end up being either naya zoo or orzhov reanimator.
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>>97633100
i guess youve been playing premodern for over a decade instead?
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It's over.
C'est fini.
Owari da.
Es ist vorbei.
È finita.
Det är över.
Se acabó.
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>>97633080
80% of Reddit posts are paid shills and the other 20% are political insiders manipulating stocks/public opinion.

Authentic Reddit users (tm) appear only in comments. No reddit "post" is genuine.
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Amogus??????????????
Amogus meme in Magic?!?!?!??????
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>>97633174
Meds.
Now.
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>>97633182
Prove me wrong.
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>>97633180
AMONG US!!! God I hope this is hinting to a future full Among Us UB set in Standard!!! Based Lord Rosewater, make it happen!!!
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>>97633207
Wed get a secret lair at most.
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Star Trek Will Save Magic
STWSM
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just got off the horn with Mark and Chris (cocks), TNMT numbers are rivaling FF sales.
shareholders and players alike seem extremely happy with the product, given out metrics and research.
"thank you all for keeping this wonderful community brimming" said Mark.
"Magic is for everyone" added Chris
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>>97633218
It’s amazing how this gif was literally an episode of nuTrek in some bizarre Buffy plagiarism.
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STWSMnforge Mystic.
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>>97631002
>Star Trek
I will fap to Troi art, POSSIBLY Crusher art, BUT THAT'S IT!
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>>97633301
>BUT THAT'S IT!
No unnamed green alien babe?
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>>97632011
what did he even mean by this? did he think the OP mistyped "sigh?"
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>>97632654
extremely low stakes and low power level so you can just focus on enjoying the format
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>>97631292
If Jace fucking dies, sure, it'll be great
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>>97633046
>the prerelease vibe shift is crazy, an anti-UB guy uni student at my FNM was like “my friends' really excited about TMNT, i love seeing cards excited about turtles. i might buy a case” what’s going on
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>>97633306
knowing wotc, that green alien babe will be to melanated for my tastes
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justify this
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>>97632795
don't tell lots of people about this. Or else wotc will start power creeping commons.
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>>97633329
The first card failed to make an impact so they felt confident they could push the design further. Simple.

Don't try to rob us aurafags of what little joy we get. The real sin is "level up" not interacting with the Level Up mechanic.
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>>97633339
the 2nd card was already in print by the time the first one got released
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>>97633370
>the 2nd card was already in print by the time the first one got released
They're literally months apart lmao. It's like the dev teams for one set don't have any idea what's going on in any other set within the Standard pipeline.
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>>97633180
Seems like an Exile Election reference.
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Psst.
Hey bros.
I have a spoiler from Star Trek for you guys.
Don't tell anyone it was me.
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Prerelease status?
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>>97633394
>>97633171
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>Gold Pressed Latinum
>Earl Grey, Hot (Obligatory utility Food artifact)
>Facepalm (It's a Counterspell)
>Make It So
>Redshirt
>Evil Spock's Goatee
>Live Long and Prosper
>Beam Me Up, Scotty!
>Boldly Go

Place your bets on shitty Star Trek card names.
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Place your bets on how they'll blackwash Star Trek and Harry Potter
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>>97633430
Black Hermiona will be worth it when every troon that ever touched mtg ropes xirself when HP set drops
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>>97633430
I bet they put the new klingon tranny in it
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What will this artifact do?
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>>97633448
Extra Turn spell.
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>>97633448
Blight 500
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>>97633430
>how they'll blackwash Star Trek
There is literally no need to do it
The series itself already is

Kingons? Black.
Sisko? Black.
Sisko Jr.? Black.
Worf? Black.
Tuvak? Black
Ohura? Black (Quadroon).
Kurzon Dax? Black.
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>>97633442
what?
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>>97633430
Seeing as how they niggified April for every single appearance of her in TMNT (except for the OG art used for Swords), I don't doubt for a millisecond that Snape's going to be black.
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>>97633448
something counters
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/r/ing a quick custom card for Barclay
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>>97633483
Snape's defining feature is his stringy, greasy hair, so it'd be kind of funny if they made Snape black and then gave him the world's nastiest Jheri curl
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>inb4 faggy pun or wordplay is used for this dude's card
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>>97633575
I read Ender's Game as a child. Then one day in college I saw this exact episode and started talking to my roommate about how maybe xenocide has a place in the universe
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>>97633555
Trips tell the truth. Fuck me.
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>UB: Lookmaxxer
>The meta is RG mogging vs BW clownpill
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>>97633617
heh
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>>97633312
Hating on Jace is so 2020. He doesn't have a single card that could rival current standard bullshit. Also wotc stopped pushing him ages ago (go, teferi)
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>>97633657
Forgetting someone?
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>>97632795
>it's the most fun because it's such low power level
Lol
Lmao even
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>>97630940
well the financial ruin of the nation it's in might do that
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Loot is the key to everything, because he's a funnier character than we've had before. It's very important that we get him working.
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>>97633658
i really love his design, hope we see more of him
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>>97633793
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>>97633509
Reginald Barclay, Nth Degree Intellect
XXUU
Barclay enters with X intellect counters. At the beginning of your upkeep draw cards equal to the number of intellect counters on Barclay then double them.
1/3
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>>97630947
I have Catharsis and Emptiness so it looks like I have to keep buying LE packs.

Should I even bother with the TMNT ones? I have a chance to get a pre-release.
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God the perspective of having Trekkies here talking about their ridiculous show... Things were bad enough with TMNT but the future looks rough...
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These are my only missing color mastery achievements, even though I've been playing ever since the achievements were introduced a year ago almost to the date. What does this say about me as a MTG player?
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>>97633941
Star Trek TNG is the only good television show in history
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>>97633977
>Star Trek The Jew Generation
>good
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>>97633972
>>>/tg/mtgag
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>>97633983
Suck my dick
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>>97633977
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>tmnt release
>not in april
fucking retards
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>>97633983
>go to that thread
>someone's talking about altered cards
>tripfag shitting up half the thread
nah, I'm good
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>>97633990
well, it's the bix nood april so it makes sense
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>>97633987
X Files had too much filler to contend with TNG, but I would love to have an Orzhov Smoking Man commander
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>>97634041
https://x-files.fandom.com/wiki/Monster_of_the_Week
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StatTrek is dogshit and i am not going to pretend it isnt. The only reason it got popular was because it was first sci fi show and fat nerds are too beta to move on from something they loved in past (thats why MTG is still alive btw)

Pic related. Superior in avery aspect sci fi show
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>>97630912
I hope that ritualposting becomes a bannable offence.
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making april o'neil black to own the chuds is so based
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>>97634075
April O'Neil was black for 8 years now. In the latest iteration of the tv show, that is.
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>>97634086
Why does Hollywood niggerify gingers so much?
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>>97633310
>pauper
>low power level

Pauper is THE most solved format.
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>>97633375
>It's like the dev teams for one set don't have any idea what's going on in any other set within the Standard pipeline

They don't. That has become clear. Multiple versions of nearly the same effect have become commonplace over the past two years. They don't have time to test or see what other teams are doing at all - seven sets a year is an insane pipeline.
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>>97634054
>Fyrefly
Pffftt....Hahahahahaha point at him and laugh!!!
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>>97633375
Second card is from commander precon. Don't think you are allowed to play it in any format except edh, vintage and legacy
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>>97633657
Jace had a good redemption arc going (gains confidence, gets into shape, nuts in gorgon pussy every night) and then the new Phyrexia story just comes along and ruins every character completely just for the "payoff" of whatever the fuck the jumbled-up set later this year is. Awful.
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>>97634054
>"fat nerds are too beta to move on from something they loved in past"
>proceeds to post Firefly, a show that got cancelled after one season 23 years ago
When are you going to move on?
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>>97630912
Anyone have experience with selling expensive cards? Store gave me a TMNT collector booster as a prize pack for playing FNM and I ended up with the expensive pixel art Raphael, The Muscle. Store wouldn't take it yet due to their being 0 sales data for it yet. I just want to put the money towards buying a new deck or a box to draft with friends..
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Got out of the house and played some cards last night. Playing in this turtles pre-release I'm just suddenly struck by how very little remains of the game of Magic that once held such sway over my psyche.
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>>97634098
Gingers are the rarest form of white people. Ginger woman are also the most attractive of all women. It makes browns feel even uglier than viewing normal white people. By browning gingers, the censors remove beauty and add inclusion in one easy step
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TQ: I hope standard becomes a turn 2 format with no bans.

This is some of my favorite art. to bad randy didn't keep contracting with wotc
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can't imagine a worse sign for the game than TMNT getting a full set, its gotta be one of the worst properties they've touched for it
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>>97634176
wtf is even going on here
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>>97634176
bring back +1/0, 0/+1 and other counters
it would be a fun unset if nothing else
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>>97634184
a prophetic vision of MtG decades in the becoming, the likes of which used to have people burned at the stake for witchcraft
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>>97634098
Jacob and Esau. Kikes hate redheads.
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>>97634194
Excuse me? Judas was a redhead.
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>>97634178
>>97631002
Was there any reason for why they kept the second set of the year a secret? The never bothered hiding Star Wars, Hobbit and Harry Potter
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new aids just dropped
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>>97634054
You didn't need to post your pic. It's incredibly obvious your a fireflyfag that can't let go.
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>>97634247
Potentially some behind the scenes shuffling, they weren't 100% sure it would actually be TMNT. Or maybe Nick wanted them to delay the announcement to do their own media.
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>>97634247
Almost assuredly contractual on the part of Nickelodeon. I don't follow tmnt enough to know if it was a marketing move or some other factor.
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>I swing in with Judy, Zootopia's Finest
>In response I flash in guac and marshmallow pizza untapping Captain Kirk so I can use him to block her
Why did you specifically chooser this fate for magic?? Didn't it treat you good?
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>>97634379
I never got a say in it
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>>97634379
I don't play EDH. I am not the target audience.
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>>97634379
I hate what Magic has become sadly if you go through reddit or other platforms people seems to love this absolute trash, and more is coming so I didn't leave Magic, Magic abandoned me.
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>>97634379
I chose to proxy and not give money to wotc. I will continue to do so lol
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Next UB reveal is Evangelion
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>>97634379
Lorcana has better gameplay with actual Judy
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>>97634455
Nobody plays Lorcana though. Even Magic's rotting corpse has more players.
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>>97634379
>Hasbro acquires WOTC
>Immediately pozzes everything and kills each franchise
>Oy vey why did YOU do that?
Fuck off
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>>97634481
Anon, when do you think Hasbro took over?
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>>97634410
Reddit literally bans you and delete your comment if you dare post "TMNT is garbage and I'm angry" the whole community is angry about this set but faggots and shills will try everything to cover it.
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>>97634521
What's this reddit you're talking about?
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>>97634379
>B-but Arabian Nights and Krosis' Attendant!!!
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These are your next UB sets
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>>97634577
If UB were the once-per-year Christmas special extra limited format that it should be, I would welcome half of these.
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heres a list of UB i am willing to buy:
UB Bible
UB Columbo
UB Alf
UB A-team
UB Quantum leap
UB Bon Jovi
UB Eipstein list
UB Sailor Moon
UB Boku no Piko
UB Tetris
UB Stardew Valley

Print them if you want my money
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You lost, chuds.
TMNT is a success and already made turtillion dollars
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>>97634577
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I cannot believe that 9 fucking people allowed me to draft this shit in GOLD
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>>97634667
Theres no pods based on rank in arena
Deck is dogshit btw, 3 wins tops
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>>97634686
How is it dogshit? Honest question
3-0 btw
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>>97634697
It's not, anon's just salty.
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>>97634697
lands are expensive
Elfs are lame
Lorwyn art is ugly
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>>97634577
Yu gi oh UB is the best one on the list. Everything else blends into some kind of slop
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>>97634667
>gold
You can go 1-3 every draft and end up in gold, you cant lose rank in bronze or silver.
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mtg x mha UB when?
I will unironically buy whatever alt art miruko will have
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>>97634481
to be fair WOTC was already pozzed before Hasbro. they've always been true believer wokies.
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>>97633657
>Also wotc stopped pushing him ages ago
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>>97634852
You're a part of the problem.
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>>97631040
Crusade is banned on mtgo though
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>>97633430
They won't do Harry Potter. They've got too many trannies on reddit and in their office telling them how bad of idea that would be and how they'd have millions of people stop playing the game forever.
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>>97634989
>and how they'd have millions of people stop playing the game forever
if only that would become true
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>>97633977
That's not ds9
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>>97634054
Serenity is a reddit show
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>>97635011
You should have gatekept harder.
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>>97634379
I am a turtle and I eat pizza
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>>97634616
Spotted the boomer
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>>97635031
I know, anon... shame on me
I'll try to do better with my game
by the way, did I mention I'm developing a game?
check it out! >>97616189
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>>97634391
I play EDH, and I am not the target audience (at least for UB)
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>>97634110
They're both only legal in edh vintage and legacy anon.
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>>97635023
you're a reddit show
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>>97634865
This is jist le epic EDH refrence
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friendly reminder if you think is good or are willing to consoom ANY UB you are part of the problem.
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>>97635100
>friendly reminder if you think is good or are willing to consoom ANY UB you are part of the problem.
Final Fantasy was based.
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based on slop normalization
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>>97634577
>>97634638
>hello kitty
>adventure time
>nerf
>adidas
>roblox
i can't wait
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>>97635100
Does it make you angry that Final Fantasy was simultaneously the best set in years while also being the most consoomed set ever?
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>>97634686
>Theres no pods based on rank in arena

Explains quite a lot lmao. Why would JotC do that
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>>97635133
Because the alternative is asking digitalzoomers to stick around and dedicate hours to playing out matches, with way more downtime.
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>>97635100
How much Lorwyn did you buy?
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Crazy how many retards actually think FF is a good set
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>>97632795
Have you played a game of pauper in your life?
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>>97634638
>Magic The Gathering
Overwatch SL confirmed?
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Do sets like duskmourn EoT and Aetherdrift even have lore anymore?
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>>97635171
>Overwatch gets Jace and Chandra skins
>Magic gets Overwatch set
I'm sure people will eat it up
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>>97635157
it was best draft format in last decade
fun fact the worst draft format in last decade was released shortly after FUCK LORWYN ITS TRASH
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>>97635184
Yeah, EOE even had a half decent story. Aetherdrift sucked though.
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>>97632422
>>97629913
>>97629937
How about rather than stealing Trample, a new mechanic that lets excess damage be assigned to another creature?
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>>97635203
Why not banding? Or a "fixed" banding if they won't reprint it due to rules complexity.
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>>97635184
Considering that Drift had a Spark as the trophy, maybe
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>>97633472
There's a tranny klingon in the new show, he wears dresses.
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Guys just a heads up
in 7 weeks its Strixhaven prerelease (not spoiler start, actual prerelease)
So get ready
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>>97634379
>Didn't it treat you good?
No.
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>>97634989
What if they make Hermione trans? And black. And gay.
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>>97635238
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>>97635229
BANE??
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>>97635023
>libertarian show where confederates are the good guys
Maybe in 2009
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>>97635223
This is the single minuscule upside to the packed schedule.
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>>97635099
The point is that Jace is still very pushed, even if he isn't appearing on planeswalker cards
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>>97635271
That's like saying LotR is a monarchist book where farmers are the good guys
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When are we getting stixhaven spoilers? in three weeks? lmao
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>>97634989
It wouldn't result in a noticeable loss of players, it would probably draw in a different niche crowd, but would result in articles and social media bashing.
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>>97635271
>confederates
I must have missed the episode where Malcolm raped Zoe and Shepherd
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>>97635222
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is mtg worth grabbing a deck for without spending hundreds?
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>>97635354
Magic is an outstanding game if you never play with randos
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>>97635354
>without spending hundreds
that's not how it works pal
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>>97635222
He's just gay, anon. No need to create a head canon.
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It's time to go, Anonymous.

The ferryman is waiting.
Magic The Gathering is no more.
You can't put it off...
You can't stay here forever.

It's time to go.
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>>97635371
you mean you must spend hundreds?
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>>97635377
Pretty much. Depends on what format and what power level you're looking to match but I've been looking into getting a first deck or two and it's all comfortably three figures
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>>97635354
You could play Arena for free
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>>97635354
play pauper
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>>97635384
>free
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>>97635373
You're gay.
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Why don't any premodern Aluren decks run this lil guy? Doesn't this + Cavern Harpy = insta-win?
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>>97635392
Not true, just ask your mother.
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>>97635392
You're mums gay
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>>97635391
Yes, that's what I said. Starter deck queue is a decent enough intro to the game, and you get access to that basically immediately.
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>>97635354
>>97635384
You could play on Cockatrice/XMage for free *ftfy
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>>97635157
Explain how it was a bad limited environment without saying UB bad.
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>>97635399
you also get enough wildcards with a new account to make a decent deck, but you'd probably have to cheap out on the lands if it's multicolor
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>>97635391
If you are good, its free, yes.
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>>97635376
There is no salvation?
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Anyone have that screencap of wotc admitting 9% of players actively dislike UB? It had like extra corporate speak around it trying to downplay it as not relevant

I didn't see it in the warcrimes pastebin
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>>97635487
9% seems a little low.
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>>97635487
>9%
Jewish tricks lmao is at least the double and I'm being generous.
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>>97635487
Here you go
Next time you get survey about MTG you need to explicitly type "I HATE UB AND NIGGERS" somewhere there. I actually did that lol
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>>97635535
>roughtly 9% hates UB and that number is shrinking
OFC its shrinking, i got banned on official mtg twitch for saying "I hate this TMNT slop"
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>>97635535
they are definitely fudging, they probably just surveyed their own faggish employees it's way more than %9
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>>97635553
I get mtg arena survey from time to time.
They always have window in the end for "additional comments".
I always type something like
"Stop making established characters black for no reason, just make Africa themed plane, its going to sell"
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>>97635571
arena-only players are not real players
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>>97635487
>>97635535
Nothing is a bigger red flag than a %. Give us some HARD NUMBERS, and also when they say "players" I'm sure they mean "Consumers" considering the abysmal TMNT prerelease compared to Lorwyn
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>>97635627
why thou
I am getting mana screwed and flooded just like you in paper.
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>>97635540
Funny, I got blocked by the wizards twitter account for asking them to reprint Caucasian people
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>>97635535
JOTC never listens to surveys. I’ve replied to the last 5 with the same spiel about not shitting on mono white and look where that’s gone.
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Did the data out Stasis as a fake deck?
It completely disappeared once Premodern got added to MTGO
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>>97635639
because arena only formats aren't real formats
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>>97635690
You sound like a faggot Standard enthusiast.
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>>97635437
No, I suppose not.
Now...
Close your eyes.
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there is some truly embarrassing larping going on in this thread
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>>97635690
I dont play arena only formats thou
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>>97635690
And if you don't touch any of the arena-only stuff and just play a digital version of paper magic?
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>>97635690
I play Pioneer only, what you gonna do, femboi?
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>>97635739
if you're not new to the game then you should mainly use Arena as a draft platform, unless you care about Standard for some reason
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>>97635638
Oh definitely. When he says "it used to be 15% but now it's 9%," I wouldn't be surprised if the overall respondents went down
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>>97635706
There like maggots that bumping the thread
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what is the best art for Opt?
no idea what SLD this is from but it doesn't look like it's even for sale
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>>97635807
original, ofc
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>>97635765
I use it to test decks I'm interested in cheaply before I sink money into paper copies of them
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MaRo on why you chuds are wrong pt.1
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>>97635388
this
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>>97635807
Cowboy art
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MaRo on why you chuds are wrong pt.2
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>>97635873
>everything is fine, please don't investigate us, shareholder-kun
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>>97635873
>>97635881
i really think this kike is the first and only person alive i would gladly slap with all my might. what a fucking corpo bootlicke pathetic example of whortless spineless human being.
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>>97635873
>>97635881
Has he ever spoke about Spider-Man sales? He likes to talk about how FF and avatar are best sellers, but I don’t think I’ve seen him say anything about Spider-Man.
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>>97635899
Why would he deliberately acknowledge something that goes against what he's claiming to be true? Watch him never mention TMNT sales or stats either.
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>>97635873
>>97635881
>We choose short term profits over loyal sctual invested in the product customers, but trust us this is working that's why I make this kind of posts, trust me shareholders!!! We know what we are doing and our "data" (made up favorable surveys) says so!!!
The jewish tricks continue, all fake as this smile.
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>>97635899
I appreciate them swinging for the fences with UB. Getting the occasional great set is worth sitting out duds like the superhero shit, especially with how fast sets come out now.
Certainly better than nonstop mediocre crap they have been used to putting out.
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>>97635873
>>97635881
I'm not saying he's a liar, but I am saying that every one of those "metrics" is blatant bullshit even by their own admission
>More people are playing Magic than ever before
>Even though we've stopped printing cards in 5 different languages in the last 4 years
They can't just come out and say that people are moving over to the digital format over paper (if not just quitting), and from the digital format they don't care about bots/multiple accounts because those make the numbers look better.
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>the line goes up, up, up
until when anons? when the bubble will pop?
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>>97635873
And yet the game is in a worse state than it has even been and they've managed to burn most of the goodwill they accumulated for 30 years. Why should I as a player care about the number of their sales if I'm not enjoying the game at all anymore?
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>>97635972
2028
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>>97635972
next decade, somewhere around the 2030s
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>>97635972
two more weeks
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>>97635972
until we have a set every week
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>>97635984
>the game is in a worse state than it has even been
lol newfags
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I know I'm part of the problem because I bought the Secret Lair; but I'm surprised even Scryfall doesn't say anything about the Ruin Crab reprint that came with the Fallout stuff
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>>97634041
How does someone complain about filler when simultaneously praising TNG?
90% of TNG is filler.
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>>97635873
>>97635881
Mono white hasn’t seen Standard competitive play in 8 years but of course this shekel sucking kike thinks Magic is in the “healthiest” state ever. Somebody please gas this fucking kike.
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>>97634206
Cain as well which is where we get Cain colored hair from.
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>>97636042
What are you talking about, monowhite was deck to defeat during crimson vow.
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>>97635873
I see Assassin's Creed and Spiderman products at every game store I go to, they're never sold out. I assume the same will be true of TMNT, judging from the absolutely abysmal prerelease numbers. Final Fantasy was actually sold out at every game store I would go to when it first came out and still is at some. I remember Lord of the Rings selling very well too, but it seemed like sales plummeted once the 1/1 One Ring was pulled. Avatar was never sold out, but always had a decent crowd at drafts at my LGS. This guy is being very disingenuous in acting like every single UB product has been a runaway success. It has 2 major successes, 1 good success, 2 major flops with it looking like TMNT soon to be added to the major flop category.
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>>97636024
>I bought the Secret Lair
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>>97634577
>>97634638
The only ones that seem like they will be a set are;
My Hero Academia
The Witcher
Skyrim
Batman
One Piece
Resident Evil
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>>97636079
NTA but i bought Phyrexian Praetors, they look cool
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>>97636078
which is for the best. we get a couple great sets meanwhile the fuckers at WotC get deserved pushback via their shittiest UB ideas flopping hard.
too bad the pipeline is set up so far in advance that we aren't going to reap the benefits of these flops for at least another year or two
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>>97636079
The money was from my tax return and I figured I'd get it because I was not going to spend 20 dollars on a single card (Mesmeric Orb) with questionable delivery; but rather pay 7.5 dollars per card with a delivery that has certainty
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>>97636026
TNG doesn’t have the overarching background story. In X Files Scully gets amnesia and forgets every alien creature she runs into just last week
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>>97636074
No it wasn’t. Go back and look at the meta. Mono white has been dead since Dominaria.
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>making custom cards for friend's casual cube
>make supertype Table
>means that it interacts with all players in all games
>emphasis on fun and silly mechanics
>make pic related
>using mini whiteboards that fit in card sleeves

What would you draw?
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>>97635535
The funny thing is dislike of ub is actually increasing with time due to product fatigue
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>>97636218
Acorn sets are cringe
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>>97636218
Elesh Norn because it's hard to fuck up drawing a humanoid arrow and I do not trust my drawing skill
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You people can bitch as much as you want on UB but we all know that if wotc announces some cool UB you like, for example Devil May Cry you will goble that shit like a good pig
Oink-oink, squuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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>>97636267
Yes, I am eagerly awaiting it. I will play the SHIT out of a Virgil deck.
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I want to draw my own tokens because I only play Saga decks and don't really like the robot aesthetic for these but I'm not very good at drawing so I'm self-conscious.
I'm also going to need to draw a token of Marit Lage doing a kick-flip, apparently.
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>>97636257
this might shock you but we simply enjoy playing mtg
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>>97636267
No, because they'd make Trish and Lady black.
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>>97636218
sounds like fun idea
I am unironically curious how many of you here can guess
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>>97636288
They can just add Lucia.
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>>97636267
That's what a simple minded pig slop consoomer would think, luckily there are people who are not like you.
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>>97636296
valduk keeper of the flame?
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I had more fun at this prerelease than at Lorwyn.

It's a mascot set, but the mechanics in play were very interactive.
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>>97636304
Not a big enough character, sorry.
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>>97636267
I would be down for more Godzilla UB stuff, but that was a better way to do it than full sets.
>might be cool to have a full set in that style, where its mostly reprints but most cards have flavor names
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>>97636267
I'd play an E33 UB because I feel like they could come up with some interesting mechanics.
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>>97636334
What would a Universes Within version of this card look like?
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>>97636267
Damn bro imagine the 6 dantes, 6 vergils, 4 neros etc
I'm so tired of the way they are handling multiple versions of every character in UB. There are very few IPs they can use that can avoid this trap. Dark Souls is one of them.
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>>97636352
something to do with Myrs
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>>97636352
Other than the annoying
>robot
typing and name it doesnt need any changes
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they should make a monogatari ub and outsource the art to japanese artists
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>>97635873
spiderman and tmnt will never pass as real sets
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>>97635972
once there is no middleclass
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>>97636267
I didn't want doom in smash and I don't want doom in mtg
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>Acceptable UBs
Alice in Wonderland
Adventure Time
Game of Thrones
Minecraft (Unironically)
Warhammer Fantasy
Wheel of Time
Zelda
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Elden Ring
Expedition 33


>Unacceptable UBs
Warhammer 40000
Terminator
Resident Evil
Mario
Spongebob
Star Trek
Stargate
Star Wars
Dr. Who
Fallout
Power Rangers
Roblox
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>>97636473
What's acceptable for me is unacceptable for thee. You allow one, flood gates are opened.
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>>97636473
>acceptable
>none
>unacceptable
>any
ftfy mate, no need to thank me.
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>>97636473
What about Family Guy?
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>>97636218
Black Lotus
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>>97636473
It really depends on utilization. Godzilla would have been worse in Bloomburrow than it was on Ikoria, resident evil monsters could fit as a flavor UB on Innistrad.
The best UB options are IPs that, if they didnt already exist, could simply be a magic plane and no one would question it.
The next best are ones that you can fit into an existing or new magic setting by making smart choices, a TMNT UB group of alternate cards on Kamigawa could have been fine.
The worst are when the setting is blatantly not magic. The United Federation of Planets or New York are both antithetical to the magic universe.
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>>97636501
>heheheheh hey Lois, remember that time Phyrexia invaded the Drunken Clam and Stewie used his Planeswalker spark to fight them back?
>That was sweet.
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>>97636521
would be ironic kino, and you can't pretend that it wouldn't.
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>>97636540
Yeah making the game a joke on itself would be great!!!... Wait...
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>>97631974
>Square collab
>Marvel collab
You are like a baby.
WotC is just sitting, waiting for the right moment to pull out the real money-maker.
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SAAR! DO NOT REDEEM! DO NOT REDEEM TH ENERGY! SAAR!!!
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>>97636547
They did that over 20 years ago with Unglued, faggot.
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>>97636540
Only if we make a deal to also get an American Dad set
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>>97636565
>40% Roger Legendary creatures
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>>97635873
>Magic is reaching a cultural awareness it has never reached before
That's funny, because the most successful sets recently were because they were riding off the coattails of another property.
Meanwhile before they went all-in on the UB, there was a Black Lotus cameo in Bojack Horseman.
Player count might be up for now, but does that necessarily transfer to brand awareness?
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>>97636565
ngl 60 roger legendary cards would make sense
I would build the shit out of Ricky Spanish
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Still waiting on that retard from earlier in the thread who said Final Fantasy was a bad set to explain why without saying “UB bad”
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>>97636607
Vivi, you absolute brain dead chimpanzee consumer nigger
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>>97636607
>without saying “UB bad”
Why?
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>>97636616
>one overpowered card makes a set bad
So you’re telling me every single Magic set is just as bad as Final Fantasy, if not worse?
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>>97636623
Because you’re essentially just spouting “orange man bad” without giving any reason as to why whenever you say it.
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This is why I don't bother getting angry at UB. The pigs are here to stay, and they want their slop.
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>>97636623
because rape is normalized these days and UBtourists can't fathom why anyone would think it's inheritly bad
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>>97636553
I'm sure they wanted to keep them separate, but I'm disappointed they didn't have more fun with the arts for Gilgamesh. It'd be cool to see him drawn with some of the more popular Magic equipments in his six arms, but Wizards seems allergic to growing their own brand.
If they did Kingdom Hearts, I'd love to see a new Keyblade designed for the collab.
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>>97636646
No no, It's more like saying I don't want Aragorn to be black.
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>anti UB posters short and piss their pans in fear when asked to give an actual reason why UB bad
Happens every time lol
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>>97636683
Take that up with the retards at Tolkiens estate who signed off on it. They didn’t race swap anyone from Avatar or Final Fantasy because the people who own the ip actually care about them
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>>97636712
Avatar and FF already have minority diversity soup in them so there’s no need to race swap anyone. It’s only traditional western fantasy that kikes hate much that they feel the need to niggerize and beanerfy anyone Caucasian
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>>97636712
That's not the point. I don't care about Aragorn. But argument against UB is similar to that one, and not orange man bad.
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>>97636737
Avatar is made up of entirely Asian characters, there is not a single white , black or brown character in the show.
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>>97636794
There was one caucasian.
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>>97636687
>Shit on actual Magic as brand
>Catter to the lowest common denominator of stupid temporal customers
>Concentrate some of the most horrible art ever in the game like pic related
>Brings conversations that nothing has to do with the game "X is better than Y" "B suould be able to win the game on the spot because in his product he is..." "They did C dirty with this card because..."
>Trying to fit with In-Magic sets generate a crazy amount of seven fucking products a year
>Regurgitates old mechanics as new ones like Weeb-Sling or Sneak
But the main reason is UB brings braindead stupid people like you, faggot.
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>>97636800
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>>97635873
>Heh here's my points
>we are making more money
>we are making more money
>we are making more money
>we are making more money
>we are making more money
Is...anyone arguing they think MtG is making less money than it was before? What a bad faith little jew.
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>>97636800
>>97636809
Asian Indians are not white.
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>>97636807
One thing I never understood is, assuming EDH kitchen table is the most populous format. Are people really that bad with money to overspend on a casual, non-competitive game? Its not like most LGS hold EDH tournaments with a functioning prize pool
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>>97636869
The average EDH player is pretty retarded in my experience. They'll just buy box after box trying to get a pull for their meme deck instead of just buying it.
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>>97636878
and here I thought buying singles was the norm
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>>97636833
They are genetically caucasian.
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>>97636901
Don't care what your fake chart says.
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>>97636794
>there’s not a single white character
That’s….my entire point. There’s nobody for JOTC to brown wash
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>>97636473
More proof that WotC alienated its millennial audience and wretched zoomers are all that's left
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>>97637046
zoomers don't even know what mtg is
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How long were games of magic in "the good old days" ?
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>>97637128
if you're not in danger of natural deckout then you're playing fake magic
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a question for premodernfags: why can't I play pic related in your format?
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>>97636869
I think edh being a singleton format makes it reasonable to buy 4 boxes with your pod. Trading allows you to have one of most commons and uncommons and you can easily get rid of duplicate rares. Last few years of playing modern i only bought a handful of singles each set. The main reason for the focus on edh is because booster packs are terrible ways to get play sets of cards.
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>>97637140
it's too powerful for honest decks like stiflenought to keep up with
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be honest, how much of a dumpster fire are you guys expecting not!hogwarts to be

bonus points if you're optimistic, somehow
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>>97637188
dies to bolt though
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>>97637190
There's nothing to look forward to. It will probably look like lorwyn eclipse vibes with modern structured architecture and clothing. 99% of the cards will be draft chaff.
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>>97637190
og strixhaven draft was fine
Plane was totally shit thou:
>elephant mage
>orc mage
and most unbelievable of them all
>smart nigger in college

I am just happy its not UB garbage set
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>>97635762
>>97635739
Sorry, what I really meant was "arena formats are not real formats"
Pioneer might be somewhat close to ok but still bottom of the barrel for paper formats. You should under no sane circumstances pay2play on the official clients for a fireslop/fortniteslop-only card pool/formats. Basically you think you are getting a convenience at a small cost when really you are trapping yourself in an endless prison of nuslop thereby cutting yourself off from ever experiencing real mtg (and don't.think playing fortnitedh counts either, it doesn't) while you simultaneously support the further enslopification of the game with your speech, money, and use hours. You are the niggers ruining our game. Please learn to leave behind your bog of slop before you drag us all down to drown in it with you.
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>>97637190
I expect above average art.
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I will never forgive wotc for wasting such great design on such mediocre cards.
Capenna looked great.
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>>97637190
I expect tits
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>>97636473
I agree with most of this. Except the following:
>Godzilla
No, Godzilla is set in modern Tokyo. I do not accept any modern shite!

>Jurassic Park
See above

>Minecraft
Jesus fuck. The aaesthetic will not fit whatsoever. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>97637190
I'm wondering if they print a mono white Liliana card in this set since they had the white and black liliana in that one story.
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>>97637283
They gave Chandra a mastectomy and have turned her gay. We'll get tits from WoTC again when hell freezes over.

>But anon they gave us tits in FF
They censored Lulu.
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>>97637140
Believe it or not, after Revised that shit wasn't reprinted until Darksteel. Premodern starts with 4th edition.
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>>97637279
Spatially speaking, I do not understand Capenna. How are there skylines in this narrow looking tower city?
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>>97637190
As much as I dislike the setting, lessons/learn was pretty cool in limited, and I'm hopeful for the mystical archives.
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IIf I pay makeplayingcards.com to print MTG cards for me, how many do I order? Is 600 for 140$ overkill?
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I am sorry
But how the fuck magic straight up didnt die at this?
Who the fuck thinks its fine?
How did this shit pass?
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>>97637303
they cant expand wide because plane is full of phyrexians (they cant enter the city due to barrier) so they go tall
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>>97637309
I've never used them before. Is it really 300 cards for $94?
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>>97637349
Says 396 for 94. https://www.makeplayingcards.com/design/custom-blank-card.html
Also https://mpcfill.com/
Does anyone have a list of essential cards to plug into mpcfill?
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Nebraska status: Booming - Maro
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>>97637527
and how's competitive doing?
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>>97637527
keep smiling for the lawyers mark :)
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>>97637527
Enron's metrics were stellar too
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I can't take it anymore. I'm ready to go down the stupid premodern rabbit hole. Shit better be good than this universes beyond crap.
I'm so tired of it all...
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More people coming home.
Be smart.
Be like this anon.
Don't be a faggot.
Play Premodern.
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I wonder how popular Hearthstone: The Gathering would be

Magic but lands are in a separate deck you topdeck from every turn in addition to your normal draw
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>>97637962
There have been multiple games that tried something like that, guess what happened to them.
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>>97637527
>It's all up.
Corporate delusion is genuinely fascinating to me.

Everyone I used to know who plays MTG has quit.
My LGS has stopped hosting MTG events entirely. The only MTG there is EDH nights, and it's not even an official event, the EDH players just have a time they all show up and the LGS owner makes them buy snacks to pay for the time.
I sense no hype from anywhere on the internet.
All genuine communication about MTG online is negative.
I do not know a single person who has anything positive to say about the game.

But yes. Nebraska is booming. Sure, Mark.
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>>97637527
>I don't know what else I can say that will convince naysayers that we're not blindly flying into the side of a clfif.
Two words, Mark:

>"We're sorry."
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>>97638006
This would be played using mtg cards
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>>97637527
>Universes Beyond is wildly successful by every metric we monitor.
I struggle to express how this is one of the most evil sentences every written. A display of pure greed. Total disregard for integrity, community and quality. The implicit assertion that success is only measured by material wealth. Gaslighting everyone with negative things to say about the product. Every manipulation tactic all rolled into one.

This whole post is an utterly disgusting display of narcissism, machiavellianism and corporatism. That our society is one where such maximally evil people are allowed to thrive is a truly revolting state of affairs.
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>maro actually replied to my tumblr ask
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>>97637527
>Spends ten paragraphs denying the personal realities of literally every single person that plays MTG.

>"I'm not trying to deny anyone's personal reality."
Does it work like that? You just say you're not doing something, and it didn't happen? Does this work in the court of law?
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same retards crying about the same shit every thread lol
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>>97638126
>same retards crying about the same shit every thread lol
Wow, it's almost as if MTG is still total unfettered shit or something.
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>>97638126
were you expecting anything else?
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>>97638126
>Unironically being at the bottom layer of the Astral Autism scale
ngmi
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>>97638076
I asked him why he never mentions the success of Spiderman or Assassins's Creed when talking about UB sets and he didn't respond.
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>>97638157
that would be the people who don't play MTG but come in here every day to cry about MTG
aka the literal people I'm talking about
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>>97638261
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>>97635881
I love how that whole last paragraph is just corpo speak for "if you don't like what Magic has become that's too fucking bad"
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>>97638261
if you're still playing any format other than premodern after nigger aragorn you're most definitely ngmi
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>>97638013
Sure but at my LGS we legit do have more players than ever. Lorwyn, Avatar, and Final Fantasy all had over 100 people for prerelease. To put that into perspective they struggled to get 50 even 5 years ago.
They have events firing every single night and they're selling more singles than ever. And this is all in a town of less than 100k.
I guess what I'm saying is anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean shit.
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>>97635881
>"Magic is a lifestyle game"
No it fucking isn't. It's a hobby at best and an ersatz investment vehicle at worst, even for the most fanatical retard consumers.

Fuck I hate corpo dickriders. They literally spend their entire lives with their heads up their own asses. These worst of all humans think they are geniuses for trying to ruin everyone else's lives.
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>>97638312
>I guess what I'm saying is anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean shit.
My experience is the only experience that matters to me. Fuck off with your globalist, universalist, verificationist garbage.
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>>97638279
>>97638266
typical low IQ gen z social media addict responses
just gotta cry on their phones all day.
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>>97638322
Based anti-christ
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I'm just simply not buying until Return to Bloomburrow releases
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>>97638334
It's called morality and it is only possible in context.
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Who is the hottest Magic character? Not just a one off unnamed card, but an actual character that has been in a storyline.
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>>97638374
>Who is the hottest Magic character?
(Pre gay globohomo retcon) Ashnod
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>>97638374

chandra is a fire walker, but nissa is her lover :3
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>>97638374
>Who is the hottest Magic character?
Objectively, no limits?

Victor the Enthralling. Nobody else comes close.

Women only?
Nullmage Shepherd
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>>97638374
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>>97638407
>Nullmage Shepherd
ugly. unless your criteria for attractiveness is just "looks like they have fake tits."
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>>97638385
>>97638387
>>97638407
>>97638414
Hard mode: you can only pick a character from the last five years and they can't be a UB character
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>>97638433
>Hard mode: you can only pick a character from the last five years
No thank you.
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>>97638433
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>>97638435
Now THAT is what I call shit color theory.
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>>97638374
I will ignore the part about named characters and post my waifu
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>>97638441
t. forgettable name devil
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>>97638076
Next time ask him why he hates White
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>>97638374
Azula is unironically the hottest character in the history of magic
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>>97638374
Akroma. Definitely Akroma.
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I swear there is a fucking premodern discord spamming this thread. They've probably all stocked up on the staples and are now pumping the shit out of the cards to make a fortune. I bet they're a bunch of disgusting Brazilians or something too.

Here is what I have to say to you all

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
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>>97638514
I'm convinced at this point that you're a troll.
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>>97638374
Don't listen to guy who said Akroma, it's Phage. Definitely Phage.
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>>97638505
>>97638539
Why not both?
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>>97638558
Kamahl's sloppy seconds
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>>97638523
Say hi to the discord for me
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>>97638514
he found out about the discord boys shut it down
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>>97638414
This.
No one can beat Gerrard. He's the MC.
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>>97638514
>Are card prices going up because of interest in an old format with smaller releases of cards?
>NO, its because an organized discord of brazilians posts anonymously to 4chan
Gay bitch tears are free publicity. If you really want to own the boomers, you could try shutting the fuck up
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>>97638523
>>97638667
>>97638765
Exhibit A of the discord fags.
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i'm hearing the ninja turtle set isn't doing too hot in sales
d-does this mean we're back?
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I'm honestly shocked at how shit that MaRo post was. Usually he at least PRETENDS to not be a gaslighting corporate mouthpiece.
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>>97638777
>d-does this mean we're back?
No. It means we must double down on UB even harder.
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Refer to the chart.
UB is a success.
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>>97638514
>hurr durr everyone that posts about premodern is a brazilian
fuck off already you stupid turd.
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The takeaway they will get from AssCreed, Spiderman and TMNT is not that UB is a bad, unsafe idea.
The takeaway will be that UB sets should all be large sets.
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>>97638802
It's MaRo trying to poison the well because JotC can't profit from Premodern, he ain't allowed to fuck off.
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>>97638819
If JotC would reprint a lot of the old cards, they could definitely cash in on the premodern hype but they've got their heads so far up their own asses with this ub bullshit they fail to see what's right in front of them
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give me Touhou UB or give me death!
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>>97638837
>give me Touhou UB or give me death!
Your terms are acceptable.
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>>97638837
Would that make them big money? I don't know how popular Touhou is.
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>>97638843
finally! the sweet embrace of unending oblivion
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>>97638847
>finally! the sweet embrace of unending oblivion
If only I could be so free...
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>>97638846
It's the most popular Thing: Japan
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>>97638830
The format's cheap if you aren't worried about having original printings. Basically any tournament I've ever seen has had a proxy allowance of 10+, so I'm not sure where this idea of it being an expensive format comes from. Hell, for strictly casual play you could just write names on the back of basic lands. Anyone playing the format is doing it for the love of the game, no one cares about 'authentic game pieces'
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>>97638846
>I don't know how popular Touhou is.
Touhou is crazy popular
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>>97638374
Before you answer with a Phyrexian waifu, remember that oil-based lubricants break condoms
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>>97638846
Maybe if it was Japan and anything else east Asia. Amerilards and Euronigs won't bother. Fate/Nasuverse might be a good choice because its an established magic lore, but that's asking to collaborate with a series built upon porno sidecontent
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>>97638901
>might be a good choice because its an established magic lore
meant to say better choice, if were going anime. Tohou fanbase is massive in Japan but limited to a doujinshi (fanmade comics/works) and bullet hell audience
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>>97638374
Tifa Lockheart
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No rest until the Taimanin UB.
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>>97637527
>Sales are up.
>Play is up.
>The number of players is up.
>New players are up.
>Engagement is up.
>Awareness of the brand is up.

Can't help but notice the total lack of mention of the quality of the product.
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>>97638920
stop asking questions and just consume product
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>>97638777
It mean less half sets and more UB full sets.
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>>97638796
Base on the chart it'd be better to get rid of Universe Within.
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>>97637527
I don't know if he is just out of touch with the players or spewing lies that he doesn't even believe in
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>>97638930
>Base on the chart it'd be better to get rid of Universe Within.
Hmm, yes. A sound observation. I'll forward it to Mister Cocks.
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>>97638819
Premodern is also a testament to how bad the state of the game is when people would rather play with only the old cards. Don't get me wrong, the format doesn't even look appealing to me in its current state, but it's still better than whatever fuck wotc is printing now
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>>97636807
I like that art. It looks cool.
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>>97638920
Magic is in it's Japan 1990 era and the party will never stop, there is no ceiling and they will have to invent new numbers to record how much money jotc can make if they just keep pushing the line, you just know there's spreadsheets somewhere for a 6 set UB year and how much money it would make with the right IP's
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wait. they just printed cranial plating again to standard



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