Previous thread:>>97555597>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Goblin King Games, Lucid Eye, Mantic,North Star Military Figures, OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat,Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg>TQA game of your choice gets a second chance and is being brought back to live with guaranteed 5 years of support. What game do you choose?
Can I get some info on Renegade Scout from those who have played it?General thoughts, feedback and anything else you can think of.
>>97640959>TQ>A game of your choice gets a second chance and is being brought back to live with guaranteed 5 years of support. What game do you choose?Halo Fleet Battles.
This game looks amazing. Can't wait to pirate a copy on release. I like the No Mans Sky base building aspect
>>97641721>5PFHSnooze
>>97640959>A game of your choice gets a second chance and is being brought back to live with guaranteed 5 years of support. What game do you choose?Dark Age, original and new series models.
>>97641891Ty for your meaningful contribution to the thread
>>97642127This.
>>97641100
This is a cool take on Dagon.
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>>97642200Damn, that is a really dated image, I havent seen that for like a decade. Back before "bro" became a pejorative
hows warriors of athena?Anyone got the books?
heroic scale niggas be like
>>97642342He looks a bit too goofy for my taste
>>97642342>Can't wait to pirate a copy on release.
>>97642342It's like an angry frog in a pope hat. Very apt.
>>97644220>an angry frog in a pope hatNot the Pepetifex Maximus!?
>>97642342>mfw the missus catches me receiving yet another box of kitbashing friendly miniatures when I already have 253 unpainted miniatures at home (I wish I was joking) and a crisp 248€ in my bank account
Did steamforged games drop physical support for warmahordes in favor of 3d prints as side-project? I'm confused
>>97645028No. They still sell physical stuff, and even most of the MMF releases get added to their store about a month later.If this is about the Frontier thing, that's them releasing three legacy armies that were always a limited release from Privateer.
>>97645101but is it any idication of future support or is it just for legacy's sake? i recall cryxiss being moderately unpopular when they dropped and completely missed out on infernal/grymkin even existing and if the files/printed minis would be better way of even getting small-scale game going at the club over importing at current prices from their shop
>>97642127Sec-sorry, thirding this. Brilliant game, I have 4 armies for it (St Mary, St John, Brood, Skarrd). Brilliant game.
>>97642200*bops fist*
>>97642804*glomps u*
Have y'all heard of CARNIVORE? It's this upcoming wargame about dinosaurs. I'm sure there's at least one person here that would enjoy it
Can anyone hook me up with a copy of Rogue Hammer from Nordic Weasel Games?
>>97646402What about dinos? Are we hunting dinos or are you playing the dinos themselves?
>>97646402I still haven't worked my way around to the last dinosaur game I picked up.
I'm looking for a squad based sci-fi game and everything is either too light and random or too crunchy. I've given Stargrave and Space Weirdos a go and they both just way too swingy. There just seems to be this vast gulf between rules lite stuff like Space Weirdos and then really crunchy games like Infinity with very little inbetween.
>>97646859>StargraveI own it, but I haven't looked into it yet.>Space WeirdosCan't stand it.>a squad based sci-fi game The thing that comes to mind immediately is Squad Hammer. But I haven't played it in years.
>>97646859Maybe Xenotactics? Heard some say it's a simplified Infinity-lite.Or perhaps FiveCore, but I haven't played it yet so I don't know.
>>97640959Are people still into Turnip28?I noticed that there are semi-regular turnip28 events in my area and I am hyped to kitbash some models together. Will also try to sculpt some stuff with greenstuff for this.
>>97647088If there are semi-regular events for it in your area then I think you answered your own question
>>97647088Try your local gay bar
How well do Ramshackle Games Dwarves scale against GW Ironhead Squats? Are they similar in size?
>>97647088The greenstuff factory literally closed for good. Treat your greenstuff like gold.
>>97646859Squad Hammer Core, nigga >>97647235Brotha dozens of companies make the exact same shit for cheaper. You can buy generic greenstuff on Amazon this very moment
>>97647235Greenstuff is just one name for it, it also goes by Kneadatite and is widely available from a large number of sources.
>>97647322>>97647341>Other companies make itThey merely repackage it, the original manufacturer is stopping production and there is no publicly available formula to replicate it.There will be alternatives, but it'll take time, won't be the same and will probably be pricier to take advantage of the vacuum.
>>97646859>vast gulf between rules lite and really crunchy Take a look at Renegade Scout and This Is Not A Test, they're medium crunch.Haven't had a chance to try it but Shoot People In Space is suppose to be medium as well. Osprey's Black Ops with the scifi bits added in might work, its sort of light but there's a decent amount going on with movement and missions it could be where you want.>>97647006>fivecore One of my favourite but its light as fuck.
>>97645132They said it's only going to be for the legacy armies, and that none of the new ones are ever going fully digital.
Squad Hammer, Renegade Scout, Rogue Hammer... what's the difference?
>>97644445me except the unpainted miniature count is probably 300 assembled and 600 nos but I have 35000 dollars in my accounts.
>>97649464>35k in his accounts Who let the poorfags in?
>>97649460You also got clash on the fringe, starport scum, mystic space, no stars in sight, shoot people in space, blast pistol and slam-15. All from the same guy.
>>97650067>pic relalso>mystic spacethat seems cool because the author also made models and uploaded them for freeand SLAM, because they are both 15mm
>>97646541Sorry for the late reply, but the latter. You play as predatory dinosaurs like T-Rex and Velociraptor hunting prey like Stegosaurus and Triceratops. You're not fighting the other players, you're fighting for the prey.
>>97649460Renegade Scout is more or less a retroclone of the old GW game Rogue Trader. Its okay, not my thing, but if you like RT and want a bit easier to deal with rules and formatting I'm under the impression its nice. The Hammer stuff is an attempt at medium size battles in a less granular approach, rules light. Similar in scope to Xenos Rampant. >>97650067You missed some.
heroclix is making a D&D set, do you think they would care?
>>97646859BLKOUT maybe?
People keep telling me that Stargrave is good for using Warhammer minis. But nobody ever tells me how it works.Why is Stargrave good for using Warhammer minis? I've got a pile of 30K stuff not being used and I've gotta do something with it all.Any help would be appreciated. I've also got a copy of the game in the mail, so I'm hoping I'm not wasting my time..I read this blog post https://boardsandswords.com/blog/2024/7/a-thrilling-warhammer-game-that-doesnt-use-gw-rules-stargrave-battle-report but it did little to actually inform me about the game.
>>97652062I've never played Stargrave, but I have played Frostgrave, and they are similar. In that game, there are wandering NPC creatures that are meant to use D&D style minis mostly. In Stargrave, that could be slobbery alien monsters or over the top space pirates. Plus your own crew of normal-ish guys, which depending on what kind of gear they have could be any of the imperial factions. You're not going to be able to put a space marine army on the table, but if you roll up a ravenous space bug infestation, tyranids will do the job.
>>97649681Lmao this.Admittedly you should never have more than like 25k in a checking account, any more than that should be in investment accounts or at the very least a high yield savings account (of course you need to be able to out down like 100k to even open one of those and the poorfags here can't do that)
Will AnvilIndustry torsos fit between the arms of two handed rifle stargrave parts without greenstuff or other hobby related modifications?And what is this painting style? Looks difficult to pull off but I'd love to know the steps to achieving this look.
>>97653866>And what is this painting style? Looks difficult to pull off but I'd love to know the steps to achieving this look.It's Dallimore's work. He just does meticulous, very cleanly-executed triads. If you poke around on North Star's site they have a newsletter page with a shitload of painting articles by the guy>Anvil torso sizeIt depends on the set, but not really. They're mostly designed to work with Imperial Guard parts and the ones that aren't usually have shoulder mating angles/surfaces a little too small for plug-and-play. You can get away with some bending, sanding, or very light patch sculpting though>>97652062>Why is Stargrave good for using Warhammer minis?Like a lot of /awg/s, the stat-lines are broadly compatible with a bunch of different model ideas. It doesn't do all-Marines very well (powered armor is a bitch to get ahold of and maintain), but you get build-your-own rules for the commander and sidekick and then a bunch of basic plug-in profiles to use. So a combat cyborg could be a Thallax, a Servitor, or a Ghost in the Shell 'borg. Several of the wandering monsters and NPC profiles are clearly based on general 40k stuffGameplay wise you're playing a crew of looters trying to get in, grab what they can, and fight back out without pulling attention from "Pirates". The pirates here are a lot more like the Tao Pirates from Outlaw Star (the game owes a LOT to that show) or Rogue Traders than generic space assholes, large interstellar warlord groups with small armies that try to smack down anyone who might pose a threat. You'll need a mix of combat operatives, hackers, lock-pickers, and ideally some support troops, so it's more like a Kill Team or an Inquisitorial retinue than a squad. Warbands are 10 models (2 leaders, 8 grunts) with a few options for additional dogs and drones. You accumulate data, archaeotech, and treasure based on the objectives you recover in-game. You can then exchange them for crew benefits or sell them for cash.
>>97653866Man, stargrave plastics are really, really good. I'd be really interested in seeing what kind of monstrous infantry north star would be able to create in hard plastic.
Anybody get anything from the Dragon Bait closing down sale? I'm still waiting for mine to be shipped, since some of it was on back-order.
There's something really appealing about shameless figures like these. I'll probably use these as dryads for Old World, or just to have on the shelf. They do have arms to attach but I let these outside the picture.
>>97654993>It's Dallimore's workThanks!>It depends on the set, but not reallyI don't think the Daughters of the Burning Rose would work. I should have said regiments torsos like the male torsos. I think their bits were implied to be compatible with "other popular 28mm miniatures" so most likely those imperial guard parts before the kneepad change.I couldn't find any pictures of those kinds of conversions being used which is why I ask. I guess I'll have to take the plunge and hope for the best.
>>97655357I got a pile of adventurers, but I'm also waiting for a couple backorders.
Big gundam assemble news with release date and pricing, it's fucking dirt cheap lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKbKewR23gwexpansion set 2https://x.com/g_assemble_JP/status/2029182588389351424the most expensive set is the deluxe set 02https://x.com/g_assemble_JP/status/2029182081109229748
>>97656621Seems like Bandai are probably absorbing the cost of tariffs for the starter set and the first deluxe set, and then charging full fare for the rest. The US pricing is like fully double the Japanese pricing. At least personally, I'll be able to get a 20% discount off MSRP from my LGS, which helps a bit, but I'll definitely be limiting which expansions I buy with that pricing. I think they looked at GW and said hey, they can get away with it.
>>97640959Man I wish Urban War was more of a thing. It's a pretty basic system but all of the games of 2nd ed UW I had were fantastic. And the sculpts are fucking cool.Phot from the last game of UW I had 2 years ago.
>>97647235Imagine think GW slop was only way.How fucking settled are some of you GWsloppigs?
>>97654993> Second season neverNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>97656756I have a Triads Starter Team I found by some miracle on the secondary market but there is no fucking way I will buy another one directly from the UK because of their atrocious shipping fees and taxes. Either Seb finally pulls his shit together and finds himself a continental retailer or may doesn't exist as well. 30 britbucks for a box and 15 extra for the shipping alone, fucking ridiculous.
>>97655696>I should have said regiments torsos like the male torsos.Female and male Regiments torsos and their own game's stuff are all slightly different sizes as well, IIRC. >>97656769Do not say in sorrow "it is gone", but rather rejoice that we had anything at all. Specifically hot-ass psycho pro-wrestling werecougars.
>>97656802Yeah the Triads are really cool. I sympathise, but now you know the pain of being a Britbong trying to get cool stuff from the US.
>>97656915Forbidden Nutella disks...
>>97656704I'm really happy that they are doing tanks and not just mobile suits. The price is good, but I might just get it via a Japanese proxy purchase and see if I can print out the cards.
>>97656621It's a shame it's not until October, but proxying won't be hard once we get real rules. We totally plan on playing with actual gunpla scale shit if we have them. >>97656704Is that Ramba? I don't see a gatling, but the angle is hard to tell
>>97657014It's most likely Ramba Ral
>>97657014It's definitely not a Gouf custom, the heat whip would be thinner so it's 100% Not A Zaku Boy.
Tallgeese / Leo combo Rise Up!
>>97657014I like that White Base model. I'd love to see a G-Gundam set with the whole Shuffle Alliance+Argo's pirate ship for the 5v5+ship format.
>>97657238They just announced G Gundam for the TCG, so it's only a matter of time.
>>97655357I got my order in 3-4 days but I didn't select anything that wasn't listed as being in-stock. Mostly I ordered Kev Adams sculpts, like the delightful pig-faced orcs and bug bears, but also some cheesecake, and a few others that caught my eye, like the giant or 'Auto-Hungarians'.
>>97656621Deluxe Set 02 is extra pricey because they know SEEDkeks will pay for it.
>>97657014>Is that Ramba?Probably. He's the only Gouf in the original, and I don't know who else they'd pack with Magellas.
>>97657238Wake me up when Tequila Gundam is on the table.
>>9765755835th Anniversary in 2029, so you'll be waiting.Tequila isn't a hero suit, or even a major antagonist suit. It's gonna be really low priority.
>>97657001Thought of doing the same with those dollaridoos pricing>>97657238Its 100% in the work, this is from the pv.
>>97656835Is there any space anime that has been like a spiritual successor.Fuck has there been any good space anime since the 90s
>>97655357>Anybody get anything from the Dragon Bait closing down sale? I'm still waiting for mine to be shipped, since some of it was on back-order.I only ordered stuff instok, but it showed up very promptly. I saw on facebook he got a lot more orders than he had anticipated though
Is there such a thing as a generic shounen-anime skirmish system? Like something that could support statting up Luffy vs Goku vs Naruto vs Ichigo. Mutants and Masterminds, but for skirmish, basically.The tropes are 99% the same and most powers could be systematically implemented, I'm confident.
>>97660422When in doubt, GURPS.
>>97660473Isn't GURPs a roleplaying game? I'm talking about a skirmish wargame. Unless you mean that GURPs is so flexible it can do that too, which is an answer I'd be forced to both accept, and, respectfully ignore. It also seems a bit too rules heavy and simulationist for anime bullshit powers that mostly consist of "the author says I can fly now".
>>97660422Don't remember if there's an Advanced Song of Blades & Heroes bit for superheroes, but that might get you close enough.
>>97640959>>TQ2nd edition warzone. The new sculpts were mighty fine but only several of the factions got the resculpt treatment. On the other hand, GW style restructuring had arrived and warzone was gonna end up bloated and forcing people to buy ten of a specific flamer specialist per squad to be competitive and shit so RIP.
Is your game on the best seller list?
>>97662090>no halo flashpointSad
>>97662090>Warmachine outsells SWLegion and MCPYeah not happening.
>>97662090Warmachine's alive?!
>>97662112who knows where they get this data.
>>97662009>2nd edition warzone.1st Ed is better
Anyone seen this Spru coming to Nottingham (where else)?Looks like a fun little list of companies. More of an "indie con" than the usual UK wargames show.Tickets six months in advance rather than either free or £5 pay on the day is tickling my spider senses though. Hipsters love the cycle of selling £8 each resin casts to each other.
>>97662335>spru>shows off first a metal caster and an stl file sellerWhat did they mean by this?
>>97662400https://sprucon.com/?page_id=145Looking at this list, not a single one actually has plastic manufacturing capabilities. Only really Bad Squiddo who casts in metal too, the rest are either 3D or small batch resin casting.
>SPRU won’t end world hunger, it can’t fix global warming, and as much as I would love to, it certainly can’t throw another milkshake at Nigel Farage.>1.1 Always act with respect and civility towards fellow attendees, staff and vendors.>1.4 Maintain a socially acceptable standard of personal hygiene. This is a sensitive matter and will be treated as such.>1.6 The following behaviours will not be tolerated:>1.6.1 Acts or statements of discrimination relating to age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage/civil partnership status, race, religion or belief, sex or sexual orientation
>>97662090I get that they're different product lines, but I don't think this list is super useful due to the duplicates coming from the same manufacturers.
>>97662090It's nice that Dungeons and Lasers made it, good for Archon
>>97663374I hope Starcraft works out for Archon, they're putting so much work into the property. There's a livestream tomorrow that's going to show the pre-order date and pricing model.
>>97663374My nitpick about their plastics is that they're monopose, based on the assembly instructions I saw on their website, they don't offer much in customisability. Still, I wish the best for archon.Does anyone here happen to own Conquest inquisitors? I'd like to see a scale comparison of those compared to regular 28mm miniatures. I know regular conquest humans are about ogre-sized.
>>97662335>>97662493
>>97662090Motherfucker two of my five favorite games haven't even been *published* in 20 years and one of the others has been dead since 2018. >>97662255>1st Ed is betterHard agree. 2e WZ tried to be 3e 40k, to everyone's detriment. >>97662460>>97662400>he doesn't know metals and resins are also cast on sprues.
>>97660422I highly doubt I have the commitment or drive to see this idea through, but this is sort of what I would be thing as a design document.>simulate anime fights from some of the more popular shounen (One Piece, Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach)>rules should encourage, and provide satisfying resolution mechanics for, teams splintering off into several 1v1 battles across the board. not to the exclusion of other situations, but "I run my melee unit into your melee unit" should be a pretty standard and satisfying move>rules should model the bigger shounen tropes, including: only pulling out your strongest attacks when near death; self-sacrifice; transformations/forms; supporting characters contributing from the sidelines; surprises/reversals of fortune/bullshit powerups; non-damage status effects (sleep, paralysis, mind control, etc)>basic rules would need to be mostly rather generic, relying on the design of individual units to carry the theme and flavor since different IPs have such different power systemsSince the roots of the genre lie in martial arts you'd need to go see if there's any really cool martial arts inspired skirmish games you could steal mechanics from, especially since I think the best combat system would *not* be "here is the list of attacks my Goku has, I will use this one and roll these dice and do this much damage" but rather something where each attack initiates a bit of a back and forth. It might be cool to have something like a dynamic block/parry/dodge system, especially since the amount of "abrupt bullshit" in the genre is so high that a hand of cards ala Malifaux might make sense.
Picked up some starter sets for the ASOIAF wargame, any tips? Got Brotherhood without Banners starter set and the Nights Watch starter set.
>>97665377>he doesn't know metals and resins are also cast on spruesThis is usually true, but all the marketing is depicting injection-moulded plastic spruesAnd in some cases, when does "flash" become "sprue"
I can't finish watching the Gundam Assemble battle report. The pointless whore inserted for reasons is too fucking annoying Someone who can manage to watch it, does the game seem fun?
>>97665689No, it seems ultra casual and gay. The rules are very simplistic, the setup seems a pain with countless unnecessary tokens and the respawning units meant to make it more fair make it a bore.
>>97665697There's rules we don't have yet, like engagement, which we know exists from Wing Zero's abilities. So the quick play rules are omitting some things.
>>97662090>Steamforged-era numachine on 4th placeUh uh, totally. Sauce, raw data and ranking criteria?
>>97665297https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXM5piWDMB8At about 6 minutues he compares it to an age of sigmar ork and a primaris marine, and at about 8:30 he compares it to a warhammer fantasy witch hunterAlso techincally this is an Eidolon not and inquisitor but they're basically the same thing
>>97665630Generally I would consider sprue as intentional where material gates were placed and flash is a minor defect where mold lines become arrogant and overgrown.
An infographic with pricing for the StarCraft miniatures went out in email. Not hitting GW prices, but pretty high still, which is expected of a IP brand like SC.
>>97660422how do you clasify skirmish, to make solo play? or to make characters to fight?will use my uncultured knowledge, and say that at least heroclix have enough stuff with their powers.there are powers for super speed, range specialist, super strenght, teleportation, giants , colosals, tiny size, picking and throwing objects, mind control. characters being leaders, characters having will power to keep going, characters getting enrage, or being invisible.a lot of this stuff can be used to fit shonen characters I think.Granted, I have always deal with the problem of "what is a good skirmish game", what makes attacking and moving fun? and for it to work, you would need to create all the characters, and give them score points, which I think is a lot of work.you are open to tell me how this is not what you are looking for.also, wanted to upload the pdf of the powers and abilities, but doesn't let me, I thought pdf was a supported format.
>>97666222Thanks!Obscurities in miniature is a great channel. I guess the inquisitors would also be much lankier if you don't assemble them with the robes.
>>97667855I guess I could have put the links for the pdfhttps://wizkids.com/posters/repository/heroclix/WK-HEROCLIX-MV50%20HeroClix%20Miniatures%20Game%20PAC-10.3.22-FOR%20PRINT.pdfComprehensive Rulebookhttps://wizkids.com//wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/HeroClix%20Comprehensive%20Rules%2003.07.25.pdfand could be nice to learn why this are bad if that is the case
>>97667762I'm in.
>>97667989I'm debating going all in on the starters, or just snagging the Protoss one.
>>97665377>>he doesn't know metals and resins are also cast on sprues.Can't expect anybody outside plamo builders and professional plastic manufacturers to know the difference between a runner and a sprue.
>>97665377Aren't they cast on frames and sprues being the connecting parts from the figure to the frame?
There any wargames with aircraft as the main draw.
>>97667762>you must purchase additional pylons
>>97668448yes, especially ww1/2 themed. there's also a couple scifi ones
>>97668631Name 5 Bonus points if they are fantasy focused too
>>97668724Wings of Glory X-Wing TMGAxis and Allies AirforceBlood Red SkiesCheck Your Six
>>97667762And the road map of the rest of the year.
>>97668724>fantasy focusedD&D Attack Wing
>>97669033>10 years of contentHoly shit I'll be AMAZED if they make it that long
>>97669196there are a few characters they can reach but by the end of contract you will likely see shit like xelnaga soup-faction kerrigan, kerrigan-under-overmind, primal-kerigan and/or whatever once named character there were in the books
>>97669196They already have plans of re-releases under different skins, like the Tal'darim and Primal Zerg, so they have quite a bit they can milk out of it.
>>97669100Shit I'd play it
>>97669100Ugh, don't remind me. Could've been something in the hands of a competent company.
>>97669033I was worried they'd cop out, but glad to see a siege tank. I hope the model can transform properly.
>>97670038Its been teased in the background of a few promo shots. They've said it can be built in either form.
>wanna try solo wargames like 5 leauges>just not as motivated to paint, set up a board and play without anyone to keep me accountable or share the storyAnyone else feel this? Is 5 leauges fun for co-op?
>>97668724>Bonus points if they are fantasy focused toothe fantasy rules I wrote for missile threatbut really though, there's a ton of air combat games
Does anyone here happen to own abyssal dwarf halfbreeds? I can't find good pictures of the models with clean paintjobs online.
is there any difference between dragon rampant and lion rampant other than the fantasy rules?Do I lose out on something if I just play medieval battles using dragon compared to lion?
>>97670690There are no duels or lucky blows in dragon rampant. Dragon rampant also offers more granularity compared to lion rampant, so you're not missing out on much. Lion rampant did have optional rules for primitive firearms, but you could represent them with heavy missiles+ the Bodkins fantastical rule. A word of caution though, that makes firearms extremely deadly.
>>97669033not launching with the Hydralisk is crazy
>>97670291I'm currently in search of a game to play solo, I tried rogue hammer, squad hammer, renegade scout and the typical recommendations like Xenos Rampant, Five Parsecs and OPR.For me, it's not about motivation, it's about finding a ruleset that fits, and so far none of them have.
>>97670977There are hydralisks as an individual box.
>>97668724Firelock 198X has aircraft, CSA, etc. although its more of a combined arms fantastical war.
>>97668724Crimson Skies
>CASderp Hadn't looked at this in a while, guy's made some cool stuff.
>Spru is £30Brother what haha. That's batty.
>>97671440That doesn't seem that high for a convention
>>97671450Are you, perchance, American?That's daft money for seven hours. Wargames shows are like £5.
>>97671032>>97671056this game seems neatI'm new to the hobby and I'm turning my head left and right seeing all these games that I'd like to try
>>97669100I'd never thought before about how rare that combination of genres is. Is there literally even a second example? There's plenty of flying units across the fantasy genre, there's dozens of them in total war warhammer.
Warmachine?
>>97671752Looks silly
>>97671440>>97671450>>97671559Wait, you guys are paying to get into conventions?
>>97671604The maker used to post here, haven't in a while. It seems pretty niche even for wargames. There's a bunch of cool stuff if you look. /awg/ and indi wargames tend to go in waves.
>>97671804The absolute best events are free like Bring Out Your Lead
>>97670705thanks, then I could just port over duels and lucky blows if I want to and just have one rule book
>>97671761Warmachine!
>>97662255After years of collecting everything wz except for 1st ed tribes of earth I finally caved last month and got a small Rasputin detachment to serve as allies. Most excited to finally use the schwerwaffe gunner. I also went and bought paints yesterday after many years of not painting.
>>97672205And here's the Templar hunting party led by the hunter with his harpoon gun. The plan is to buy antediluvian miniatures' gorgonopsids for the third bestal if they ever restock those.
>>97672225Good news they are in stock.
>>97672311Tricky dick made me look
>>97672205>a small Rasputin detachmentMy brother did the same not that long ago, my next list-to-be is Bauhaus led by Max Steiner.
>>97672416noice. wz eternal or the old sculpts?
>>97672425The old metals, now that Prince August stocks more of the Bauhaus line it should be easy enough to make up a force.
>>97672383???
>>97672541Might be cus I'm in Trump's americar. I should write antediluvian.On the plus side I never got an email from the govt charging me tariffs before my PA package arrived.
Just ordered some of these cute little dudes.
>>97672604I'm also in America
>>97672753teh fuck
It's me, I'm the digit chasing radical!
>>97672020Warmachine...
If starcraft pops off, will we get warcraft next?
>>97673042They said already that if Starcraft does really well, they want to do Warcraft
>>97673042If the actual game itself is really good I think it will get decently big but otherwise I don't think many people will care
>>97672971Fuck that. Release some of the old good shit.
>>97673233I'm no help my entire plan is to buy 2-3 hydras and that's it.
>>97673042I sincerely hope not. The blizzard sloppers are some of the most annoying /v/ tourists to regularly shit up this board.
>>97673042Would it look better than the previous warcraft game?
>>97667762With the way the supply mechanic works in the game, a good amount of those boxes you're getting double the units. 6 roaches is two units in its own. 4 marauders is two squads or 1 maxed squad. That's kinda good for the price.
>>97673421They just did on their Minifactiry page. Infernals, Grymkin, and Convergence were just put up.
>>97673233The game is decent. Better than 40k currently and still simple enough for newcomers to the hobby.
>>97673042I feel like if it did, it'd end up like the Fallout game; everyone wanted FO1, 2, and New Vegas in mini form, Bethesda wanted a tie-in to promote 4 and 76. Blizzard will probably want the same; a tie-in to current WoW, instead what everyone wants, WC3 in mini form.
>>97673865it would have to be wc3 or it will be so fucken gay
>>97673830Where?
>>97674085Okay, I got it wrong, they are coming soon. I haven't been paying too much attention to it.https://www.myminifactory.com/frontier/warmachine-lost-damned-salvation-5274
>>97674085On Frontiers. It won't be live for like another week.
>>97674176
>>97674285who the fuck still uses Flintstone phones
>>97673865The only reason I'm staying away from SC is cus the models are from the sequel and not the first game. Fuck that shit.
Finished my casino themed table. I'll use it for Malifaux and MCP.
>>97671752Not as long as SFG is running the show.
>>97640959is konflikt '47 any good?
>>97674318Grug.
>>97673865>a tie-in to current WoWI hate it that you are right
>>97674361That's pretty neat anon. What did you get the parts from?
I started to print quite a lot of FMD miniatures lately. Most of the FDM-optimized model makers design them as monopose, single-piece minis obviously and have 1-2 minis of a kind in their portfolio. I wanted to use them in OPR Skirmish but many OPR factions REALLY want to field those units of 3 or even 5 minis per group and I don't want to field 3 copy-pasted archers or spearmen.Can you guys point me to alternative skirmish games that don't do multi-mini units at all or heavily focus on 'one mini - one unit' with groups being an exception?Open Combat comes to my mind but I want to know about other games that fit the bill.
>>97674372SFG taking over PP was nothing but a blessing. My only complaint is them pushing Warcaster to purgatory.
>>97674820>Can you guys point me to alternative skirmish games that don't do multi-mini units at all or heavily focus on 'one mini - one unit' with groups being an exception?Pretty much the majority of them I think. Just random names: Fantastic Scuffles, Sword/Space Weirdos, Nordic Weasel Games, Planet28, Brutality Skirmish, Songs of Blades and Heroes, RenegadesAlso you can try printing things that aren't labeled as FMD-optimized. For example Old Realm Forge dwarves seemed to work well when I tested. Similar style things as well, like the old Chaos Dwarves.And actually just random stuff can work too. Pic rel is what I made from Red Nebular Ghyant for Xenos Rampant. They aren't all in wildly different poses, but each one is at least slightly different. It's more important for me to tell which one belongs to which squad anyway.
>>97674820Can you show me examples of FDM prints that you've done? I've been thinking of buying those instead of resin prints due to superior material. But I am wary of layer lines and loss of detail.
>>97674891>Also you can try printing things that aren't labeled as FMD-optimizedOh I do but they often turn shit. I have best results with Duncan Shadow's stuff (not FDM-optimized) and Brite Minis (FDM-optimized). I have found plenty of minis that are advertised as support-free but they are actually not so it's all a mixed bag. Brite Minis' bodies and legs always turn well but I can't print a single arm for shit - they always end up knocked down by a nozzle for some reason. I start to think they were not designed with 0.2 nozzle printing in mind.>Pic rel is what I made from Red Nebular Ghyant for Xenos Rampant. They aren't all in wildly different poses, but each one is at least slightly differentOh these look super nice. They could actually work well for fantasy games as well I think. With insects, robots and other sculpts that don't have much of individual detail it's much easier to simply mirror them and call it a day. Pic related is my pig-faced orcs warband I just printed.>>97674910I would never buy FDM prints over resin ones. FDM printer can pull some really decent results nowadays but the gap between FDM and resin minis is still huge. I don't regret buying an FDM printer tho. Even with Bambu A1 mini the quality is great and you save a lot of money on all those wargaming accessories and scenery you can print for cents.
>>97670291I found playing with unpainted models and boxes for terrain helped motivate me to paint.I haven't tried it solo, but I expect the simplicity of the rules would make it annoying: the extra overhead of talking through things would quickly outweigh the actual game.
Any Warzone nerds itt? I'm working on a homebrew skirmish wargame in the Mutant Chronicles universe, but I personally really hate Dark Eden and I was planning on just leaving all the tribes out (and also completely ignoring Whitestar and leaving them out as well). Would that be a bridge too far for you?
>>97674951I understand. But would it be feasible to print fdm vehicles and monstrous infantry - or models that emulate the oldhammer aesthetic (fabelzel, red nebular, monstrous encounters etc) and have models that are of tabletop quality? I'm just sick of resin snapping and shattering.
>>97675022>I was planning on just leaving all the tribes out (and also completely ignoring Whitestar and leaving them out as well). Would that be a bridge too far for you?Going back to Terra and having anything there at all was already a fucking bridge too far. Go for it.
>>97675055That's exactly the way I've always felt about it, I felt like it was way more thematic to have earth hanging there as a burnt out cinder to be a reminder of how bad the corps fucked up.
>>97675022What makes your system different from Warzone?
>>97675062It's smaller scale, about squad vs squad. It also uses a square grid and a cover system similar to the new XCOM games. The thing that I think makes it really stand out is that each faction has 8-12 subfactions to represent the various special forces groups in the lore, and I've been trying very hard to diversify them a lot, so for example a Capitol Free Marines squad plays very differently than a Capitol Martian Banshees or Barking Spyders squad even though they're both Capitol.
>>97674891Btw where is the big guy on the left from? I don't see it on the Red Nebular's MMF.>>97675034I think it is doable but that requires a bit of sanding for sure. Pic related is the expect quality with a 0.2 nozzle and next to no settings fine-tuned. Lines are visible when not painted but many of them are actually smooth in texture irl. This mini was printed with a dual-colour gradient filament so the lines look exaggerated.
>>97675093>Btw where is the big guy on the left from? I don't see it on the Red Nebular's MMF.Oh, right, that's "free bug 2.0" from Oshounaminis
>>97671440>Spru is £30Mental.I get they can't absorb upfront costs like Salute can but they must recognise the offering is much weaker too.It's a shame I know a lot of those designers and they are nice and not in it for the profit.I assume that price is what it needs to be to break even but I wouldn't be very surprised if some of it is going to remunerate Department of Wargaming generously - funny for a guy in it for the love of the game and to get independent art and design out there.>>97674361I haven't played any 4th, but that looks craaazy open and barely 25% coverage, let alone 33%.
>>97675160>I haven't played any 4th, but that looks craaazy open and barely 25% coverage, let alone 33%.This, you need chairs.
>>97675183No, it needs huge LoS blocking banners, big pot plants, a... cigar pit pouring obscuring smoke or something.Not just extra tiny obstructions you can clearly see over.
>>97675116Nice, thanks. Have you printed it on FDM printer as well?
>>97675197Yes, something like this. The ass was "standing" with it's stinger pointing up. I think used a little greenstuff to hide the gap.Also it was scaled up, but I guess you'd notice.
>>97674951You'd never be able to tell these are FDM once there's a few layers of paint on it.
>>97674891Is there anybody in the US who sells these printed? Can't find shit on etsy or google.
>>97675584Well I have them printed and painted and yes, you are able to easily tell they are FDM. I have two FDM printers, I print a lot and I'm happy with my prints but there is no need to cope.
>>97674820Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes is an oldie but a good default for individual model stat fantasy skirmish. Decent amount of flexibility in making unique stats that aren't overly complicated. En Garde! by Osprey is a favourite of mine for small sword fight skirmish combat. The combat system has a very enjoyable mechanic for balancing attack and defence. But it doesn't have as much going on for the more fantastical side of things and you'll probably end up having to make things up there. >>97675700>Well I have them printed and painted and yesntayrt, how'd they turn out? I like porcs.
>>97675633Red Nebular should have a list of merchants who sell his stuff. >>97675915nta, but the porcs are great! They take paint well, and have great character for porcs. They work well in resin too, but I really appreciate BriteMinis for making his models FDM printable.
>>97675986How do you make arms from his modular kits work? Whenever I try to print them, even with supports, they end up knocked by the nozzle. I don't experience this problem with any other part of his kits.
>>97675986>Red Nebular should have a list of merchants who sell his stuff.Doesn't seem like it, only thing I could find is some of the prints are on thingiverse and you can get a third party to print them somehow.
i want to get into hex and wargaming but nearly everything is so deep, overwhelming and a big time sink. what would you recommend to learn the basics?not sure if this is the right thread
>>97676110>hex and chit >but not time sink not sure if possible honestly, its a slower form of gameplay from a different era. You can find ways to streamline various aspects of play, but that again ends up being a "time sink" because you have to play the game and figure out how to play it faster and more efficiently. I got chucked into the deep end at a young age so easy to learn basics isn't what I'm familiar with but I hear Hold The Line is good for that. The Portable Wargame isn't exactly hex&chit but could work if you want fast and light while larping as a grog. /hwg/ will have a few ideas too.
>>97676110did you mean "hex and chit"
>>97676110>everything is so deep, overwhelming and a big time sinkWhat is your motive?
>>97674176I must be the only person who liked all the Grymkin. I don't even play Warmachine. I might back this just to cop the robot chicken and scarecrow dudes for general wargaming purposes. The convergence models look neat too, but I remember a friend showing me them and how bad the bendy restic they were made of was. Getting those printable should help a lot.
>>97676321a lot of the grymkin model designs were fine. a few were even great.it's just widely hated as being the "jumping the shark" moment for the game. it was the first faction designed by jason soles instead of wilson and seacat, it ignored most of the previously established grymkin lore (and setting lore in general) in favor of doing something that didn't fit with the existing fluff, the rules broke all the previously established rules, and while there was plenty of goofiness in existing factions the grymkin were the first pure joke/expy faction where everything felt like a reference to another game or setting.it's only gotten worse with hindsight because it's very easy to point to grymkin as the moment where everything obviously went to shit. they basically became the posterchild for Mk3 and all the catastrophes that followed.
>>97673042>>97673564I'm not sure what a good WC game would even look like. Most of the things that make it WC (base building, tech trees, forking build decisions) do not translate well to miniature gaming. You could do the hero vs hero skirmish combat well enough, with heroes being supported by small squads, but that only captures like 10% of the warcraftiness.
>>97676321>liked all the GrymkinI liked some of them for sure.
>>97674176>concern intensifies The Cephalyx and Drudges look about right, they added fartgas to the Crucible Rocketmen which I don't like. We'll have to wait and see. Cautious optimism.
>>97676440>>97673042you'd basically be talking reskinning some other game with warcraft units and calling it warcraft. the practical limitations of miniatures games mean that you need to know your army at the beginning (because otherwise you couldn't build and paint it), any kind of fog-of-war is a PITA to implement, modifying terrain in play is a PITA, upgrading/modifying units during play is a PITA, and you can't really have the tactical "fight over the mine expansion" and the strategic "land, sea and air" happening on the same table easily.
>>97676315to have fun in 2 hours or less
>>97676577>2 hours or less >hex and chit >doesn't want to read or think too much ngmi
>>97676577May I suggest finding another genre then?
>>97676577Why not just play a videogame or something unironically
>>97676440I just want Warcraft 3, preferably that era Samwise art, style minis. I couldn't give less of a fuck about the game attached to it.One thing comes to mind however, I clicked a YT vid of some dudes who played "Dawn of War" style game on tabletop. They had some custom rules about putting down buildings by spending resources and getting units on the field based on what buildings they had.
>>97676577Why hex and chit then?
Is mantic done with kings of war? They releases the Chinese army and that’s all I’ve heard from them since.
>>97677152They are releasing books every six months, so there's likely another book coming up given that the last book was in November.
>>97671752I've been getting some of the older stuff recently but I doubt I'll ever play it. Looking to make a full khador army by the end of the year
>>97676744nta, but theoretically hex and chit could be quick on the setup. No measuring anything or shifting around bulky terrain, just put chits on hexes. The format could be quick and simple, but conventionally it's always dense.
>>97677332There are multiple wargames that are played on a grid so maybe pick one of those. Otherwise, you seem to be looking for a boardgame but for some reason you are in denial.
>>97675022No one ever liked tribes of earth or *barf* whitestar. And white Star was cus everyone knew shoehorning your fat ass wife's ethnicity into a in game mary superpower is colossal levels of neckbeard simpage
Anyone here got thoughts on Planet 28? Looks fun.
Any recommendations for a space combat game? I'm working on a long sci-fi military campaign for some friends and I'm looking for a non-franchise-attached game for the space combat parts. Fistful of Lead Starfighters was a little too small-scale/arcady for what I'm looking for.
>>97677835OPR has a franchise-free space game https://onepagerules.com/games/grimdark-future-warfleets
>>97677835ignore >>97677845Warfleets is utter trash. What you want is either Full Thrust or Starmada.
>>97677852I didn't say it was good
>>97677845>>97677852Thanks anons, I'll check all of these out.
>>97676440If you look at the SC game, the best way to look at it is its the moment when the bases are built up and you send you army out to clash with the enemy. Its not the whole game, just a screenshot of part of it.
>>97672205I randomly have the Rasputin heavy weapon guy that Prince August don't, he's nearly as tall as the rest despite being knelt down, huge chunk of pewter
>>97672646nice anon, I have them 5 and the 2/3 single sculpts that kind of go with them to paint too
>>97675160Yeah I'm up Norf so haven't ran into any of these "Department of Wargaming" events but they all seem a bit spenny
What was the warmachine equivalent of "40k 2k Matched Play"
>>97677640I didn't care for it. 20 wounds per dude is silly for a skirmish game, and armour is cheap and effective enough that it felt like a NERF battle.
>>97679761Last I knew it was 75, but that information is like a decade out of date.
>>97679762>20 wounds per dude is silly for a skirmish gamewhat exactly was your issue with this, just too much bookkeeping?
>>97680274Too much bookkeeping for no benefit. Many RPGs work that way because players only have on dude to manage each, and attrition over a number of battles is common, or at least expected by designers. I do not see any such reason for it here.
>>97676110See if you can get one of the older Avalon hill games like Blitzkrieg, 1776 etc. They tend to have simpler rules while still being representative of the genre.
There are a lot of cool Helldivers 28mm STL's out there for pretty cheap. What would be a good mini's agnostic sci-fi wargame to play them with? Don't recommend me any osprey trash please, those games are pure dogshit.
>>97671873>>97671604The author does post stuff on Twitter and Patreon pretty often at least, so it's easy to follow along. There's an active community of players, but that is on Discord.
>>97679600I'm probably gonna end up picking up one or two of those little guys too, I really wish the bag of bastards was in stock, I know they're 3d printed but I like 'em
>>97680942>Don't recommend me any osprey trash please, those games are pure dogshit.They will hate you for speaking the truth
>>97679762>>97680274>>97680896I think the important thing to note is that players START at 20 wounds and can earn points by selling them at a rate of one wound per 10 credits. If you want to build beefier, more dangerous characters that are easier to kill then the rules entirely support that.
>>97681408The Bag of Bastards is 20mm for some reason.I was planning on asking him politely if he could possibly print some in 28mm when I next see him at an event.
>>97681549>The Bag of Bastards is 20mmOh, well, scratch that idea then lol
Anyone familiar with Dracula's America, is the Stitch Doctor supposed to be immortal? His rule says he "doesn't roll for injuries", but the chart where you roll for injuries is also the chart where you roll for death.
Brutal.
>>97681925I don't know what they expected after they flubbed the last one. First impressions matter.
>>97681925What a funny language
>>97681925Just fucking make those boxes and I'll buy them. Don't add another shit with Kickstarter that then people can scream about.They have like a billion things in the pipeline that's been waiting for years now. Where are those roman scale armor guys or Thureophoroi they posted years ago? Or other things, like what's up with Quar? It's like in a year delay too.
>>97676050Are you using rafts? Are you printing batches or single arms? Checked your print speed? Added extra bed adhesion? Never ran into that issue myself using pretty standard print profiles, so I'd need more info to help.>>97676059Huh, he used to. Guess your best bet is asking a friend or sending the files to a printing service.
>>97681925>the damnedGee, I fucking wonder why no one wants to back them.
>>97681925How do we vote in this one? Doesn't seem to be in the news section.
what wargame has good rules for handling long campaigns with multiple battles and armies? Or should I just homebrew the entire thing.
>>97680942You have to simulate the stratagems or else it's shit
