Previous: >>97630337Uh Oh Stinky Edition>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ:Be honest anon, how does your personal hygiene compare to the rest of your LGS?
For those who didn't catch it:Duel Commander is finished. The last good remotely popular (singleton) format with a reasonable banlist and no politics BS: gone. What the fuck are these people actually smoking. As if WOTC wasn't doing enough damage to the game.
>>97642348>Be honest anon, how does your personal hygiene compare to the rest of your LGS?Impeccable.
>TQJust admit you want my musk
>>97642395Duel Commander is now called "Aeonshift" and will use a points system based on your commander.This has to be a fucking joke.
>>97642395>>97642400shizo theory, they are killing DC on purpose so that wizards can adopt it into a Historic Brawl-lite format.
>>97642395it's march 1st not april, did they get confused somehow?
>>97642400>>97642395I'm glad the changes they wanted to implement in commander is being tested in your trash joke format first.
>>97642395>>97642400What the hell is duel commander and why should I care?
>>97642419Its 1v1 commander.
>>97642419It's 1v1 commander with no politics BS and a sensible banlist. Same deckbuilding rules. Similar to Historic Brawl on arena which is shit because it allows gamewarping cards like TOR.>>97642410You got it wrong, in fact. Elder Dragon Highlander (which you mistakenly refer to as Commander) is already ruined.
>>97642424>You got it wrong, in fact. Elder Dragon Highlander (which you mistakenly refer to as Commander) is already ruined.Okay histrionic tranny.
>>97642423>Its 1v1 commander.>>97642424>It's 1v1 commander with no politics BS and a sensible banlist.Didn't know that existed. I've just always had an EDH deck I designed to play against one other player. I never knew it was a separate format. Since when? Like I'm going to change my deck because of some WotC BS.
>>97642424>Elder Dragon Highlander (which you mistakenly refer to as Commander)There is no such format as Elder Dragon Highlander and never has been.
>>97642433Cope and seethe. Duel Commander was your last hope for a color limited Commander-centric singleton format. You are not technically a human being, therefore you are not capable of understanding the truth. Sad.>>97642437>Didn't know that existedIt's not an official WOTC format. It bans cards like Maddening Hex which are designed to be balanced around multiplayer games but become utterly broken in 1v1. While in EDH (commander) you have cards like Rhystic Study which are not incredibly good in 1v1 like in Multiplayer.>>97642438Yes, there is (and was). We know this because this why you take 21 "commander damage" to lose in the game that you today call Commander, because all the original Elder Dragons you used as your "commander" all had 7 power, for an even 3 hits to win.
>>97642449>Your last hopeNah. Didn't care before, don't care now. I'm not the one throwing a melty within the first 10 posts and will probably continue for the entire thread.Pro tip: When someone calls you out for being a histrionic tranny, don't double down.
>>97642455>Didn't care before, don't care now>why are you mad bro? Just let it happen bro.And again you use the word "tranny" to distract yourself from the fact that you are not a human with relevant opinions, but an NPC. Luckily you're in good company, there are hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of you and you did a great job ruining Elder Dragon Highlander already.You almost certainly own WOTC cardboard. You are pathetic.
I find I can only really have fun at my LGS if I'm running an answer-heavy/controll-y deck. Otherwise someone with an answerless value pile will just pop off and kill everyone.Anyone got any unconventional control commanders?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97642479play pedh
>>97642395>Check top decks in this format>Spiderman 2099, Jeskai Aragorn, Cloud, Deadpool, Gruul Toph, Azorius Aang, MonoG Tifa, Kefka, and Ghyrson Starnlol
>>97642483https://manabox.app/decks/AZyYKs1FcmOP7nAIALX2EwHow is my Subi deck?
>>97642531she cute
>>97642449>you take 21 "commander damage" to lose in the game that you today call Commander, because all the original Elder Dragons you used as your "commander" all had 7 power, for an even 3 hits to win.What you're referring to is no more a format than dan-dan
>>97642483Who in their right mind is gonna play pedophile elder dragon highlander?
>>97642348>tqI like to shower and dress nicely so much better than LGS.The LGS I went to before this one was a lot more aggressive in telling people to go home and bathe if they wanted to stay in the store but it was run by women and thus way cleaner/nicer/friendlier
>>97642424Oh, it's this tool again.
>t2 apprentice necromancer>t3 dark ritual tormenting voice discarding etali, primal storm, necromancer the etali, vamp for archon of crueltyGod I love reanimator
>>97642348>tqI shower every other day and have a lab job. My LGS is actually pretty good about kicking out stinky people. There's another one in town that eternally smells like feet though.
>Guy in the pod takes a 20 minute long turn that doesn't end in a win for him>Has the gall to complain when someone immediately takes him out in the next rotation.
>>97642395All of the duel commander players I knew jumped ship to canlander years ago.
>>97642644I just switched to normal commander. Used to have titania, thalia, vendilion clique, and meren together. But never found people who play since I moved out of my hometown.
>>97642607turn 2 witherbloom apprentice turn 3 dark ritual chain of smog gg next game?
>fetchlands still expensiveWhat are the cheapest ways to get these in any packs or sets? I need them all.
How much would the table hate playing against this?
>>97642424>TORVast majority of cedh decks arent even including this card anymore. Its good, but slow unless you specifically have an abundance of untap synergies.>muh protectionCan be gained at better rates.
>>97642449>last hopeI mean I only play with my girlfriend and sometimes my dad as well. We play whatever we want. Maybe if you werent so insufferable youd have friends and you could play whatever you wanted.
>>97642478I really enjoy my UW Ellyn Harbreeze deck. Tokens give you board presence, mana, cards etc. And she lets you dig for the necessary answer in the moment. Its one of two decks I have that is undefeated, although I dont bring it out often for that same reason.
Two questions, how does top interact with the keyword explore? Also should I add the Omni-Cheese Pizza in her deck since I draw a card when it first enters then I can earthbend it, sac it then get another draw from it?
>>97642853proxy
People play dual commander? Madness.
>>97642933Absolutely not. If you pulled those out in my pod I'd tell you to fuck off.
>>97642478Erinis/Street Urchin. You're playing lands and control, so you're going to ultimately out-fuck the value piles.
>>97642933I'd rather just not play MTG then play against fugly proxies.Fags like you ruined MTG (yes I know im in the EDH thread, so that's obvious)
>>97642984No one will miss your no games ass
>>97642946But Anon, I just helped you draw 2 cards... :(
So I decided to dust off an old forgotten habbit of mine and went out of my way to start building a tribal deck. I figured there might be some interesting support cards I could play. And yet, to my absolute dismay, I realize that the only actual good tribal card that exists in the game is this fucking thing. Its like... why? Why in all the years of magic is it so hard to print generic tribal support that this card is the only thing I'm actually happy to put in my deck. It fucking baffles me. No I don't care about the 10th fucking tribal emblem effect. Hell, even 3tree city is better for token spam. Lorwynn came and went and it barely nothing among it actually makes playing tribal any more viable.
>>97642984>>97642946If those cards were anime porn proxies you would be cheering and calling him based. So would I
>>97643033Goes great in my Geordi tribal Star Trek deck.
>>97642567First off dan-dan is a fantastic format.>>97642449Secondly, they weren't originally called commanders they were called generals. I don't think the commander word came around until 2010 or such.
>>97643044Bro, your Shared Animosity? Your Kindred Discovery? Your Kindred Dominance? Your Kindred Summons? Your Three Tree City? Your Banner of Kinship? Your White Lotus Tile? Your Urza's Incubator? Your Raise The Palisade? Your Cover of Darkness? Your Collective Inferno? Your Reflections of Littjara?
>>97643073When I talk about generic tribal support I am talking specifically about colorless cards. And I already mentioned 3tree city. The only one I'll give you is urza's incubator but that is sign of the problem that we still have nothing better than that, or even a sidegrade.
>>97643076metallic mimic kinda counts no? plenty of tribal decks love everything entering with a +1/+1
>>97642919It has no special interaction with explore. Artifacts are lands on the field. It's not a Mycosynth Lattice where all cards you OWN are artifacts. And you should only play the pizzas if you have no shame. I have shame and will not be playing them despite Cryogen Relic being my favorite common.
>>97643072the fact that even the most diehard oldfag itt calls their general "commander" - using the wotc approved lingo without breaking a sweat - betrays their supposed puritanismthey are perfectly fine with wotc changes in principle, they are just particularly angry at changes they don't like
what's the best black/white way to generate advantage off of discards?I know standard is sometimes playing the equipment that has discard a card as an equip cost just to dump stuff for moonshadow, but commander has to have a better way to generate advantage off discards
>>97642946Cool. You movin? Cause I'm not.
>>97643123>commander:wb f:c o:"discard a card:"Learning how to use scryfall search syntax will help tremendously when building decks
>>97643033I don't care. If you're cards are obviously fake, hard to read, and full of anime shit, i'm not taking my time to research to see if they are copies of real cards that exist. I'm just going to ignore you, and so is the rest of the LGS.
>>97643123white just isn't the "reward discard" color, and it would rather exile the graveyard instead of profiting from it
>>97643145>local man thinks he has authority when he doesn't have any, not even a single shredHate to see it
I just sleeved up and test my janky Progenitus deck, that has every single exalted card in it. It's bad bros. I realized that exalted is useless without some kind of evasion or else you're attacking for 50 but getting chump blocked. I'm already seriously low on card draw, interaction and ramp, so not sure what to do. I also through in every single liege card for shits and giggles. Getting Proggy out is GG though, but I only have one mana doubler in it now. Might have to go that route. Who knows. It will never brak into bracket three.l
>>97643152
>>97643152Protection stops opponents from blocking.
>>97643162I know, but when I got 6 mana and a shitty little 1/1 attacking for 20 because of exalted and a True Conviction up, it get's blocked by some 0/1 plant or 4/4 flyer. It gets chump blocked all day long until Progenitus comes out, and ain't no serious pod going to let that happen.
>>97643145>I'm just going to ignore you, and so is the rest of the LGS.
>>97643152Exalted is an awful mechanic. Not in theory, but it pales in comparison to +1/+1 counters since it requires a giant janky board state.
>>97643189I don't care. I just like the concept of one creature just doing massive damage. It's a cheap 5 color deck I'm putting together with extra cards. Thankfully the few missing exalted cards I needed were dirt cheap. I just want to get it at least working some of the time so I need to get it cooking.
>>97643145>The LGS AGREES WITH MEI actually really doubt it.
>>97643170who cares about a stupid 1/1, why do you even care about any creature in a Progenitus deck except for Progenitusyou aren't winning any other way, you deck should be all ramp, anthems, and protection/interaction
>>97643170>>97643152>has progenitus>doesn't attack with progenitus??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>97643302Am I supposed to do anything aside from point out his basedness?
>>97642866I wouldn't mind, do your thing if you can get it to work.
>>97642395>>97642400They looked at how mildly successful is Yu-gi-oh! Genesys format and decided to copy it's design elements, except shoehorned into commander and with complete ignorance towards the fact that MTG has more cards and confusing edge cases.This will implode and die after few weeks.
>>97643152Progenitus needs an ungodly amount of ramp to work. Whatever you think is enough probably isn't. It is one of the slowest voltrons in the whole game.
>>97643328progenitus also sucks as a voltron general because 21 commander damage means without any buffs you have to swing *three* times to kill a player in which case you might as well just add him in the 99 for him to kill a player in four hits, assuming you add him at all
I'm printing magic proxies with a focus on commander so how many of each land do I print?
>>97643076>Patchwork Banner>Banner of Kinship>Urza’s Incubator>Herald’s Horn>Vanquisher’s Banner>Door of Destinies>Progenitor’s Icon>Icon of AncestryAll colorless.In future if you want card recommendations can you just ask for them like a normal person instead of this gay reddit “wrong on purpose so people correct me with the info I want” shit?
>>97643363As many as you need. What a stupid question.
>>97643126No, you can watch tho
>>97642811Go back to your containment bracket.
>>97643426I don't play with newbies
>>97642395Does this mean that ante cards are legal?
My deck is a bracket 1.My theme is UB.
>>97643444Ante cards are de facto legal when everyone's using proxies
>>97643152>>97643159You shouldn't be worrying about getting in with anything but the big boy. I do like the idea of having exalted as a theme though. Isn't most exalted stuff in white? I assume the whole deck is loaded with all the exalted white creatures you can fit, blue and black for draw, then loads of green ramping and some red haste enchantments?
>>97643123White doesn't really have anything for generating value off that. That's a black thing.
my deck is bracket 0
My deck is bracket 0 because I don't use brackets
>>97642866It's cooler and splashier than other storm cards but having to shuffle your library on a storm turn goes from a long turn to an insufferable turn.
>>97643401>In future if you want card recommendations can you just ask for them like a normal person instead of this gay reddit “wrong on purpose so people correct me with the info I want” shit?wheredoyouthinkyouare.exe
>>97642933I'm surprised people actually remember Code Geass in Anno Domini 2026.How're your knees doing anon?
>>97643107Metallic mimic is kinda eh as far as colorless tribal support, It's a SLIGHT upgrade over the generic tribal lord that I can't remember the name of, and both of those are kinda bad unless you're running a tribe that is in DESPERATE need of lords (And can't run generic anthems)
Is Bruvac too obvious for a mill commander? I was thinking of using a commander that would let me copy spells instead of merely doubling the amount of cards that get milled
>>97643611what would you expect when you see Bruvac on the other side? Mono Blue Aggro?
>>97643632Persistent Petitioners.
>>97643542I'm clicking your file link but nothing is happening.
>>97643611Bruvac is boring and excessively telegraphed. Use the femboy instead.
>others say my deck is a bracket 3 in power level>it's actually bracket 2 and a 50 budget one at thatthere is no way I'm going to b3 hell with all those disgusting cards "unbanned"
>>97643682Universes Beyond is slop
>>97643707FINALLY somebody said it
>>97643704I can build a Feather, the Redeemed deck for less than $30 which will clap everything bracket 3 and below. Stop pubstomping.
>>97643682>Bruvac is too telegraphed, run [equally as telegraphed card] instead
>>97643724Then brackets don't work
>>97642395>>97642400wrong duel commander, that's the one that the retard who got kicked from the DC group tries to pushthe official one is on duelcommander.org
>>97643752God that banlist is huge.
>>97643752>banned as commander has all the FIRE shitbased>banned in deck has bloodmoon and back to basicscringe
>>97643752>Bending the knee to "le offensive" cards
Is there any way to filter for precons on moxfield? Whenever I try to look one up the results are full of custom ugrades I don't give a shit about.
>>97643961Have you tried reading? >>97642348>https://magicprecons.com
>>97643966And how do I playtest them, smartass? Don't tell me I've got to copy paste the decklist into moxfield.
>>97643961just look at the ones posted by yhe wizards account, retard
>>97644016Import from URL?
>>97643152The only exalted cards worth playing for Progenitus are Rafiq, Finest Hour and the gay little mana dorks. You only really need one exalted guy and a double strike/extra combat enabler anyway. I used to play him and would ramp him out with a bouncelands and untappers. Throw a Dawn's Reflection in there and boom you got 8 mana with one Kiora's Follower.
This card unironically ruins the game when its played
>>97644198>GAVIN PLEASE!! ADD IT TO THE (((GC)))you people are pathetic
>>97644198How do you figure that?
Working on Grenzo Aggro/goad with a power 2 or less subtheme.https://archidekt.com/decks/20395580How can i make this not shit?
>>97644213NTA but it often slows the game down to a crawl of people spending massive amounts of time looking at each other's hands and politicing. It feels like it doesn't even actually change the outcome of the game, just makes it take longer to get to that point.
>>97644251This is not a custom cards thread.
>>>97644233>NOOOOO THE AUTISTIC ASSHOLES THAT PLAY COMPETITIVE KITCHEN TABLE MAGIC CANT HANDLE SEEING OTHER PEOPLES HANDS!!!
>>97644198Cant see my hand. Fun fact, if you're attentive, you should know what's in your opponents hand without that card.
>>97643044This card is mid, win more, and not required in literally any tribal deck.
>>97643072My first EDH game was in 2008 and the people showing me the game called them commanders.>I dont THINKWeird, cause if you were actually playing the game back then youd know.
>>97643733No you just suck at deckbuilding, feather isnt even the most busted thing you can do at b3
>>97643145You are right, as someone who actually plays the game and doesnt just larp in this thread about proxies, ive never seen poorly made alt arts be well received.
>>97643044because mark nosewater LOVES doubling. he's been printing at least one in every set for 5+ years now and even has a small group he is "teaching" to do the same in the future
>>97644341Nta, but where I played no one started calling generals commanders until the second wave of precons. Not sure what your point is.
>>97643337>voltron>without any buffsIs it retard hours? Can we not?
Did any of you die to door to nothingness this weekend?>guy bitching about ub, even says ubslop>play pic rel in my tmnt deck>ask him what his favorite color is>tells me to fuck off>drop manifold key and kill him>>97644326>game starts>hmmmm we are in a format with 30-50% of all cards shared between decks>my hidden camera behind my opponents has let me know he has a force of will… hmm yes … he stands no chance against my superior intellect.. my rigged die let’s me have a high chance of going first…
>>97643733>kid skips a grade>wtf im supposed to be in grade 3 not 4!!!!>grades dont work!!!!!This is you, except youre clearly fucking retarded and would never skip a grade. But the logic is the same here.
>>97644016>>97644074Actual fucking retard lmao love to see them put in their place well done anon.
>>97644355You are truly braindead then anon. You avoided an actual period in time because youre larping.
>>97644362>yes i always have the buffs 100% of the time even though i have to fill my voltron deck with ramp to get out 10cmc creature fast enoughHow about you not be retarded instead
>>97644364Good job anon it's always a great time to make UWfags cry
>>97644381If you must know I played edh most actively during 2009 and 2015 and have recently returned to it. The first deck I ever played in the format was a Kiki-Jiki pile that a friend built for me.
>>97644364No. In real formats you can usually guess like 70 of the 75 after two land drops. In edh, you have the context queues from the board, and only a small portion of cards matter, so you can reason your way through it fairly easily.
>>97644387newfag-kun, in this neighbourhood you are supposed to always have it..
>>97644364This is based and you should always treat whiny fags like this
>>97644444Quints of fucking trvth. UW needs to die ASAPLast thread I was laughing my ass off when someone was having a meltie over how his employed friends are single handedly funding the whole superior Universes Beyond business model while he is powerless.
>>97644487You can play a different game, anon replying to himself. You were so well behaved, what happened?
>>97644418>99 card singleton>can easily google your opponents decklist based on their commander because it’s a solved format and changing 1 of the 99 is considered spicyIt’s like watching a bunch of retards put latex gloves over the heads and take turns blacking out.
>>97644487How much of a corporate bootlicker do you have to be justify aesthetic and game design decisions because they're a better business model?
>>97644516>>97644503This is the guy that lost btw
>>97644511Or, 99% of players are bananabrained windmill slamming turd gobblers doing the most linear expected things possible, and the 1% who arent make correct plays and sort themselves.>>97644525Yadda yadda internet detective, yadda yadda proxy legacy cards at your lgs.
>>97644516>UWfags never tell you how good UW is>UWfags are more likely to be proxyfags>there aren't enough of them to keep hasbro afloat anywaysLol
>>97644536Yabba Dabba Doo
Elfbros its literally over
>>97644729>gets -1/-1 on turn 26 or laterWhat the FUCK?
>>97644364This never happened.
>>97644847>say a UB meme>UWfag gets hella madThis in fact happened
>>97643521Rather than shuffling each time, just cut the deck randomly and take the top card from that pile.If it's shuffled once every card is randomized anyways.
Am i cringe for switching away from my mill deck when i see a reanimator commander
>>97644940You're not combo killing the reanimator player first? Or is this like a mindskinner slop deck?
>>97644895you never posted the deck without mana rocks we talked about
>>97644940Depends if you've ever tried to beat reanimator with said deck or never even gave it a chance.
>>97644940Just mill faster.
Anything worthwhile in the turtles lair? I'm grabbing the Kevin Eastman arts because I like the artstyle and I still need a Sakashima's student, but god everything else looks like shit, even though the Mutanimals pack seems to be like 50$ worth of cards.
>>97644954No sorry i'm not that anon who posted a kataki deck as some kind of gotcha against mana rocks
>>97644895I haven't been in these threads in over a year. Have they just devolved into baitfaggotry over UB stuff? Pretty pathetic if true.
>>97644968Oh okay. I never got to continue my conversation with him. Guess he doesn't really play and is just here to argue about abstracts with smug remarks and reaction imagesMany such cases
>>97644925Even better have your opponent cut the deck so if you get a good card it's their fault
I still can't believe there isn't a good, solid PvE mode for commander. People love co-op friendslop, and the intrinsic problem with the format is player bitching.
Shit, we talking about alternative commander formats?>tfw no one gives a fuck about 60-card singletonI'd really like to see something like it because there's enough redundancy to have focused gameplans for a ton of archetypes but there'd still be enough variance to make games fresh. Lower life totals and more streamlined decks just sounds like a more ideal way to play the game to me.
>>97643752>official one is on duelcommander.orgNice """format"""
>>97645230I made a singleton sliver 60card deck and it's honestly refreshing playing games where it's not "first to get lucky and draw their wincon wins"
>>97644326>Cant see my hand.Well since the card says you play with your hand revealed and you didn't counter or remove I guess you concede. Thanks for the win ig
>>97645090make a like 60 card deck that's strongly themed and play Xv1 against it, it just plays the top card of its deck every turn, maybe an extra 1 for every few players. roll for targets, rotate the player who controls its targeting, or just have the players consensus whatever the target is.or just play sentinels of the multiverse
>>97645312Oh look a dumbass who said something dumb. I played the card.
>>97645263Agreed. I can't think of any archetype in EDH that doesn't function at all in 60-card aside from the most durdly of nonsense. The more aggressive cutting process also really helps me hone in the essence of the deck I want to build as well.
>>97642866I think they would get sick of me making obligatory Megamund quotes
>>97645526*MegamindFuck fat fingers
>>97645405>The more aggressive cutting process also really helps me hone in the essence of the deckAgreed, the deck I made is literally just 36 1-2c slivers across all 5 colors and 4x Lifecrafter's Bestiary for card draw. None of the 5c ones just the basics with 4x Secluded Courtyard and 4x Unclaimed Territory for easier mana colors. It's quite fun
>>97642395>>97642400That's actually great news and whining bitches like you should shut the fuck up and move on to 60 card formats.
>>97642400So basically you make a cedh deck but you make the general the worst possible one in the colors you want, awesome idea
>>97642400>Bre of Clan Stoutarm>100 points??? am I missing something
>>97645746Well yeah if your commander is dogshit you get more pointed cards to make up for your deck's inherent weakness. What part of this do you not understand?
>>97642400I'm not inherently against it but I do have to wonder the provenance of "aeon shift." Duel Commander tells you exactly what's going on, aeon shift suggests some sort of premodern type format.
Ive ordered this for my sea monster deck. looks pretty fun desu
>>97645818I read the ability before first strike and almost had a brain meltdown wondering how the FUCK it comes in attacking after attacking is done. I need a fucking nap
>>97645818Wait, what? It puts an attacking creature on the battlefield during the damage step and after blockers? Damage doesn't use the stack and all damage resolution happens at once so how does this even work? What happens if you put another creature with first strike onto the battlefield? Does it miss the timing for dealing damage that turn?
>>97645839this guy >>97645838 explains it.first time I saw it, I also thought that either I or the card designer had to be retarded. but first strike solves this issue. bonus fun fact: the creature you put into play through his ability cannot be blocked
>>97643152Whoa I made a Progenitus exalted deck years ago, also with all the lieges. Crazy how I find someone else using this idea. Pic rel is a fucking BOMB in the deck cuz I'll kill two people in one turn when Prog drops. >I realized that exalted is useless without some kind of evasionYes, no duh. If you're trying to make genuine progress in your gameplan with anything else other than Progenitus himself you're doing it wrong. Might as well include a bunch of Shadow/Horsemanship creatures if you wanna attack with other stuff
>>97643028I've played this game longer than you've known what it is.>>97643066Gate keeping on the front line requires compromise
>>97645839oh wait I hadnt fully read your post. I guess if you put another creature onto the battlefield with first strike it would ignore that ? since the first strike phase is already over when that creature would enter
>>97644847I've noticed a rise in these types of comments, tied to the amount of slop comments and cedh posting. Do cedh players really just go 'I'm gonna try my hardest to win' every game? I've got so much meme shit that these competitive players get so ass mad when I cast pic rel on their force of will, draw 5, and they sit there just 'WHY THE FUCK DO YOU RUN THAT? GOD ITS SO STUPID.' then rants the rest of the game how only bad players run these kinds of cards while I mockingly talk about my overwhelming intellect>>97645839first strike. There are other interesting interactions with it entering attacking as well.
>>97645952lmao, I wish I could cast that, but this pic rel
>>97645902>702.7c Giving first strike to a creature without it after combat damage has already been dealt in the first combat damage step won’t preclude that creature from assigning combat damage in the second combat damage step. Removing first strike from a creature after it has already dealt combat damage in the first combat damage step won’t allow it to also assign combat damage in the second combat damage step (unless the creature has double strike).Yeah, it just deals normal combat damage. The only thing it would mess up is double-strike because the first damage phase has already passed.Which also means giving that thing double-strike will cause funny interactions as well.
>>97645959shit, I used this one for fow, and used it against his other spell, and that one for some value critter
>>97645796Closed formats is the future of mtg, and the failure of pioneer and the uptick of premodern proves thisThere's no need to expand eternal beyond vintage and legacy and while nobody likes "rotating" at first glance the truth is the average tournament grinder would be lucky to be playing for around 10 years before finally quitting the grind for good
>I cast cyclonic rift overloaded, any responses?">All I can do is try and make this symmetrical, I pay 3 and copy your rift with return the favor.>I counter it it with force of will with its alternate cost>Oh, cool, I pay 2 more and untimely malfunction and make your counterspell target your cyclonic rift.>He just immediately scoops.I'm sure this is unimpressive to everyone else in this thread, but doing this to a simic player felt so good.
>>97645952>>97645959>and they sit there just 'WHY THE FUCK DO YOU RUN THAT? GOD ITS SO STUPID.'To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to include Overwhelming Intellect in your decklist
>>97646290>He just immediately scoopsI would have as well, desu senpai. Got outsmarted and bowed out, respectable response.
>>97646290Zimone is so forced I'd rather have Loot
>>97645258anon...those are banned in every formatexcept gypsies and crusade which are legal in based premodern
>>97646292>NOOOOOOOOOO HES NOT USING A FREE COUNTER SPELL
>lgs is doing a deck trade white-elephant event>"the expected power is a strong 3 and 3 game changers">build a self-mill reanimator deck>wow thoracle would be amazing here>>take out the easy infinite payoffs>keep the infinite millI'm going to bait whoever gets my deck into milling it all only to not find Thoracle
>>97643682Instead of playing a commander that already mills as its ability, I was thinking of playing spellslinger with some mill sprinkled in as a gotcha. Something like Alania or Lutri might work better for what I'm going for, possibly Azula but knowing my pod they'll kill her on sight
>>97646477yes
>>97646474>letting other "people" touch my cards, let alone play with themcouldn't be me
>>97646474>>lgs is doing a deck trade white-elephant eventWhat in the fuck is that?Even "budget" decks run $50 easy. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
>>97646520we all chip in $20 and proxy everything
>>97646474>lgs is doing a deck trade white-elephant eventDamn anon, you live in a high trust white society or what?
>>97645864Oh yeah I know all about Finest Hour. After a few play tests I've updated my list to let any creature besides Progenitus get damage in. >Rougue's Passage>Rancor>Whispersilk Cloak>Ring of Kalonia>Trailblazer's BootsThat should help a lot.
>built another budget deck that friends don't want to play against>slowly starting to run out of ideas because their main complaint is my turn length and I only play decks with explosive turnsI want to do big stuff but I need to do it fastwhat do
If I had a card that lets me play an instant from my graveyard, I can choose this card, but then cast the enchantment side of it because of these card's weird mechanics, right? I remember something weird about it.
>>97646567I would do it, but I wouldn't allow an opponent to do it. No, I will not read the rules and I will not listen to anyone's baseless drivel.
>>97646567No it's an enchantment except for when you choose to cast the instant and then it's an instant on the stack only. If a card says you can only cast an instant then you can't cast that because it's an enchantment as far as other cards are concerned
>>97646580>If a card says you can only cast an instant then you can't cast that because it's an enchantment as far as other cards are concerned*in the graveyard
>>97646580Depends on the wording of the card letting you cast it. What >>97646567 wants to do is always impossible, but if something says you can cast instant SPELLS from your graveyard you can cast the adventure. If you had something like "Instant CARDS in your graveyard have flashback" it wouldn't work.
I just realized that Star Trek is absolutely going to have special treatment cards written in Klingon.
>>97646676good excuse to not have to play with UB
>>97646699>i've stomached awful secret lairs and UB this far>but klingon is where i draw the line
>>97646719not what I said, schizo
>The schizo is the one who will play magic the gathering
>>97646676Just like how LOTR had elvish?
>>97646756...yes?
The funniest part of UB is exactly what I said was going to happen. Everybody who vehemently despises UB has to pretend to absolutely love every UW set despite the fact that everyone was saying how magic was going to shit before UB was even a thing.Like yeah Im sure you actually really love Lorwyn Eclipsed and arent upset that the aesthetic is no where near what it used to be but you can't say it because you need to pretend it's the best set of the year so WotC and Hasbro will see a positive reaction to UW LMAO
>>97646792Wow anon be careful, you don't wanna break an arm jerking yourself off like that
>>97646792I hated og lorwyn/shadowmoor and like this set's aesthetic way better.Then again I don't mind ub either, I'm more upset at the amount of product and all the shit changes to boosters
>>97646777> literally 1 card which hasnt even seen playOk anon
>>97645838Thank you. Im a retard I read it like 4 times and still just ignored first strike every time.
>>97646846like pottery
>>97646560You stop being a faggot. No one's impressed.
>>97646792I hate UB and I heavily criticized Lorwyn, and Aetherdrift, and any other ones that deserved criticism because product isnt perfect. So you were actually wrong anon but i get you need this
>>97646855Not at all. You are positing that it will be like phyrexian cards which do exist and do see play. Elvish TOR has not been seen by anyone at an lgs or kitchen table so its not really comparable to phyrexian. And klingon wont exist in trek.
>TMNT>Strixhaven which was always just MTG's boring version of Harry Potter>Marvel>The HobbitThat's your next 4 sets lmao.Also I dont know if anyone has mentioned it but anyone else find it kind of shitty how they put less legendary creatures in universes within sets yet part of those are just the fucking strixhaven characters the story is following
>>97646855>>97646777>>97646676>CARDS>PLURAL>one (1) singular card exists in elvish>not multiple (as in not cardS)No goal posts were moved. You were wrong, and the precedent doesnt support you.
>>97646290Redirects are so fucking cool.
>>97646560Do big stuff but do it during their turns?
>>97646909>>97646925>posts right after cooldownheh.
>>97646924>they put less legendary creatures in universes within setsIt's like they have a yearly limit they're not allowed to surpass. Wasn't the Spiderman set like 70% legendaries? It'll likely be way worse with the Marvel one
>>97646756Klingon is a bigger thing in pop culture than elvish. The trope of the turbonerd who speaks it fluently is well established and something they can draw on that people will recognize.
>>97646902>i hate all of UB and that's fine>but no you should still love *some* of UW, aka all the UW i love>no i'm not going to convince you i'm not going to bat for maro's creations you crazy?!
>>97642395>>97642400This really seems like an April fools' joke that got released a month early. And a huge fucking pain in the ass besides.
>>97646970If you don't like Magic's real, original lore you should not play Magic at all. You don't belong here. Leave.
>>97647005none of that is the real original lore
>>97646924>anyone else find it kind of shitty how they put less legendary creatures in universes within sets1. Don't call it fucking "universes within". It's called normal sets. Normal fucking sets.2. Legendary creatures should be very rare to begin with. No set should have more than about 10 legendaries.
>>97646936What on earth are you talking about? I am spelling out for you how youre wrong. Address it or your concession is accepted.
I don't care how many legendary creatures are in the set. I just don't want forced protagonists from wizards with 5 variants each.
>>97646970What happened to the posters in this thread are you all fucking braindead. You made a claim that UB haters are unjustly loving every UW set. I shared my experience, that i am heavily critical when criticism is required UB or UW, proving you wrong. Now you are just typing random shit instead of going>yeah I just felt like jerking myself off even though I have been proven wrongIs this entire thread filled with losers? If you need a win this bad I beg you to get a real hobby and some real accomplishments.
>>97646925You could also randomly pull sol rings that were in Quenya
>>97646792In-universe storytelling died with blocks dying. WotC doesn't have to worry about writing a whole ass story with UB because they just have to get the vibes right and coast off memberberries and easter eggs. I just don't think Magic can convey a good story with one set per plane, even with supplemental comics and short stories. You can get cool characters occasionally, but not a good overarching story. I get that Hasbro is a business, and each subsequent set in a block earned less, but man it sucks that art dies to fiduciary duty.
>>97647005>If you don't like your country you should not be here at all. You don't belong here. Leave.something tells me you and a whole lot of UWfags don't actually believe that
>>97646962>Klingon is a bigger thing in pop culture than elvish
>>97647069More people bothered to learn klingon for sure just because it came up more. There are more scenes in Star Trek of klingons speaking klingon than anyone speaking elvish in LotR
>>97647095And there have been easily accessible resources for learning it years before Tolkien's notes were published.
>>97647095>>97647117desu i'm not sure trekkies will buy cardboard but i understand paramount needs money and it was just easier for wotc to get their IP into mtg so we'll just have to see what happens
>>97647034anyone can criticize anything and UBfags will not shy away from telling you why their preferred IP is the best but I have yet to see a heartfelt defense of UW which really tells someone all they need to know
>>97647155Here's the thing, UB's audience isn't really new players. It's lapsed players who dropped the game 20 to 25 years ago when they were in high school. Trekkies won't learn the game for this set, but people who remember the game and like trek will be interested in checking it out.
>>97647194Why does anyone have to give a shit about magic lore to dislike universes beyond? Is it not a completely valid stance to not want to play with gay ass jrpg or doctor whomst advertisements in this game?
>>97647247You're replying to a troll. he is an outed-pedophile who unironically said UB is good because it means printing more children on cards. Ignore him
>>97643611I've built my y'shtola deck as an "I draw cards, this makes you mill" with a few of the different Teferi's tutelage cards. I don't think it's a great deck since it's adding even more steps to a bad gameplan, but I also get to play different style of mill gameplay and interact with the board in general a bit more which I'm a fan of.>>97646792I am pretty selective in terms of the UB I actually like, LotR,and FF were mostly good, Warhammer was good and Fallout was mechanically interesting and well constructed but pretty marginal in terms of theming. Otherwise I just haven't found any UB wildly compelling, however I found the UW version of spiderman a lot more aesthetically interesting than the actual spiderman set. There is something about Magic's world that makes things grandiose, larger than life, and to a real sense magical. They are glimpses at a much larger and alive world and I think the lack of block sets has seriously dampened the ability to expand on many of the themes present in releases. Many of the hat sets would have been benefitted both mechanically and thematically with further releases, and I think no matter how good a given set is, either UW or UB we will struggle to have the same staying power because we are forced to just move on rather than explore Mirrodin block or Alara, or even get more than a single look at current Tarkir or Lorwyn.
>>97647284uh oh schizo melty
>>97647247well if you're gonna shit on UB that freely guess we'll just return the favor and shit on UW ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>97647306>There is something about Magic's world that makes things grandiose, larger than life, and to a real sense magical.i get the sentiment but in this day and age character-driven stories are better for both the audience and the bottom line and unfortunately the normies aren't going to be hyped seeing Jace in Fortnite
>>97646846Sol Rings were also in elvish
>>97647358Oh, was calling them advertisements too much for you to bear? I sure hope magic will be able to survive your relentless campaign of mockery starting from this moment on.
>>97647194Again... what does this have to do with my posts?
>>97647456>I sure hope magic will be able to survive your relentless campaign of mockery starting from this moment on.sorry to inform you anon but hasbro can't survive from UW alone because it isn't selling enough hence UB exists in the first place so don't blame UB blame your unsellable faggot characters
>>97647194>defense of UWThe worst "UW" (read: actual Magic) is frequently described as capeshit. A significant portion of UB is literally capeshit, as in Marvel superheroes. Therefore, "UW" > UB, definitonally. Simple as.
>>97647479jace > spiderman/wolverine? enlighten us anon i can't wait to tell normies why a monsterfucker is actually the best thing ever
>>97647473Yes, I understand that your beloved advertisements were only put in the game as an artless way of squeezing money out of retarded homosexuals such as yourself to keep a shitty corporation afloat, but I fail to see what it has to do with anything. Magic would not cease to exist if Hasbro went under.
>>97647473Hasbro can't survive period because their board games are ameritrash and physical toys aren't appealing in a world where toddlers can pick up a tablet or VR set and get dopamine hits.
>Euroids were the ones seething all alongit makes so much sense now
Is Tinybones the most fun thing I could be doing with discard? I recently found a bunch of my old mono-B discard enablers and a handful of staples, so I've got an itch to play around with them.
>>97647515>retarded homosexualsthat's the (nonpaying) UW audience though>I fail to see what it has to do with anything.and that's the rub, you refuse to accept that if UW was any good there would be no need for UB to begin with and everybody would trip over themselves begging for mtg to collab with them instead
>>97647529Probably. Just accept the fact that people are gonna gang up on you very quickly. Discard decks are awful to play against and no one likes them
>>97647529That or Tergrid. You'll need to build it bracket 4 though because normal casuals get absolutely booty blasted at discard.
>>97647544>>97647546Aye, fair. It just feels like a shame not to use them, but selling them off would be too much of a hassle. People at my LGS rarely do trades because everyone just buys the singles they need, so people are rarely wanting for anything in particular unless it's from a new set or its some primo piece.
>>97647529My discard deck is Ardyn the Usurper. And I find that fun.
>>97647549Absolutely build him. You can probably find a pod to play high power and still have fun.
>>97647557Do I go full mono-B Tinybones or do I toss him in the 99 of something 2c+? I love me a good low-cost commander and the little guy is focused as fuck on his gameplan, but is there anyone that might offer more or something meaningful beyond color identity?
>Whoa man, you want try a new precon?>Don't yell anyone though>Buy worldshaper!
>>97646792I personally don't hate UB and I am a big lotr/ff fan. I think the art, writing, and card design in Magic in general is absolutely terrible regardless of sets, and I think the concept of sets themselves are fucking terrible because they're trying to design cards for several wildly different formats, including one which most people who play it play it exactly once, while trying to include cards with intentionally unbalanced designs to motivate sweatlords to buy packs in the first place.Anyone crying about UB is a retard. The game's problems and failings are way deeper than just the art on cards.
Ok so what's the average deck cost for most players? Or maybe bracket 3? Friend group is stuck in btacket 2 The mothers the won;t transfer to bracket 3 no not the fuck ogf hwat their doing. They are say concern about the cost of b3. then I donpt thecuk the y working
>>97647529I'd suggest building him but do with stuff that just overfills everyone's hands, a friend of mine does it with Tergrid where it's all the demons and various "drawbacks" that make everyone draw a lot of cards for him getting a moderately sized low cost beater; he gets their stuff at their end step just through them not being able to cast 12 extra cards in a turn. it makes the stealing feel more honest since it's not from depriving people of resources.That said Tinybones is a harder one because you not only have to get them to discard, you also have to be able to afford it. You might just build it as group hug with a shit ton of extra mana cards.
>>97647533>Intentionally missing the point this hardVery artful deliberate retardation. Anyway good chat, I hope I don't accidentally reply to one of your posts ever again.
This is what I have so far niggas, what else should I add to the deck or what should I remove?
>>97647704Have fun impotently hating on UB bucko
>>97647659Most obvious false flag post ever.>>97647699Seizure aside. Most of my decks are 3s, and between 100/200(CAD)
>play pic rel, also have power balance (lel)>competitive player casts smothering tithe>countered>gets wild evocation off the top of my deck>eldrazi player gets a free ulamog and exiles half of his deck
>>97644364This didn't happen, btw. But I'm still gonna kneel as if it did.
>>97644895This card is okay though and fits in magic entirely because Avatar is vaguely fantasy
>>97647005No sane person plays a game due to its lore.
>>97646792>Everybody who vehemently despises UB has to pretend to absolutely love every UW set despite the fact that everyone was saying how magic was going to shit before UB was even a thingThis is the worst part. I am now expected to just like every single UW set if it has a fantasy aesthetic. I am not meant to take into account ANYTHING about the set aside from "There are elves and forests and guys with western swords."
>>97647806I include bridge of death in every 5 color deck, and in my terra/transformers deck. It's 3 for 3 on people not answering, but getting the joke. Because I can do the voice 1:1>>97647824>mfw
Anybody play PreDH?
>>97647842>I would play a garbage unfun game if it had good loresure you would. Can you name some widely panned (mechanically) games you have played and enjoyed solely from lore?What are some games where the unfun aspects are made up for via lore?
>>97647700That's interesting take on it. Just give everything in excess and capitalize on the leftovers. The only problem I can see is that players will get to sculpt their hands and will hand you unplayables when possible.I'll have to peruse scryfall to see what kind of support even exists for it in mono-B, but it sounds fun.
>>97647737dead ass bud I hit a blinker when I typed that shit
>>97647849my autism can't allow it
What's a bracket 2 deck that can crush bracket 4 tables?
>>97647887The hullhearth precon or the ashling precon assuming they get bad starting hands and you get a good one.
>>97647849>black cardohh so that's why it's good
>>97647887None. Because if it can, its bracket 4.>b-b-butBe a big boy and be honest about your decks strength.
>>97647887
>Friend's brew a new strong deck>Immediately looking for counters and how to brew them in without being strictly silver bullets just for them>I brew a new strong deck>"Yeah. I'm just not playing against that again."
>>97647849I've built a couple. It gets expensive making sure all the prints correct but it feels rewarding. The decks usually stand up in casual play. Plan on building more.
>>97647529The most fun thing you can do with discard is self discard. Discarding the table is hard control and will get treated like that. I ain't your mom, maybe your table wants that kinda fight, but make no mistake its not going to make you friends.
>>97647921Common experience for me, but I had to learn it's because most people aren't as autistic and wasteful with their cash as I am and aren't willing to spend hours adapting their decks in response to meta. They have their fantasy in mind when enjoying magic more than enjoying the interactions between players like I do (i played 60 card and they didn't)
>>97647849Yes. As I grow in my MTG and EDH journey I find myself drawn to stuff like PreDH, janky themed decks and pauper. As long as you play against similar powered decks, you're going to have a good time.
>>97647887Etali or Kinnan
>>97647887collector ouphe and rule of law
>>97647957Nice.I have pic related and memnarch built, i'm thinking i want a third option but unsure on what, torn between grixis thrax or dimir wrexial.
>>97647966Not like I'm expecting them to throw away hundreds of dollars in response to my deck.Oh, you are running elfball? I should probably put a cursed totem in my deck that doesn't have a lot of activated abilities, and how can I fit that in.Oh, you don't like playing against my pillowfort deck, maybe run some artifact and enchantment hate, that you should have some of anyway? No? You're just going to not play when I play it? Cool man.
>>97647965I've never really messed with self-discard, but I imagine you want to be in RB at minimum, right? I've seen a couple cool Anje lists before, but I always feel like it'd be hard to keep from going hellbent.
If you copy an epic spell that someone else cast, are you still locked out of casting any other spell for the rest of the game?
>>97648078Why wouldn't you be?
>>97648111This game is nonsense some times where things you think would be like it do, but it dont
>>97648047>make land destruction deck>everyone just pulls out their CEDH decks with proxxied fast mana and wins before I can set up a parity break on my 6 mana land destruction spell
>>97648183>Land destructionI'm pretty sure 3 decks going against you could beat you to death before 6 mana without having to sweat with CEDH proxy decks
>cast cruelclaw>undying malice, then culling the weak it>victimize it for bedlam reveler + kroxa>respond to the bedlam reveler trigger with burnt offering>use the mana to goryo's vengeance cruelclaw + 6 floating>draw 3 lands from bedlam reveler>swing with cruelclaw, get faithless looting>cast it, get pestilence demon + buried aliveAll that for nothing.
>new deck gets a magical christmasland wincon by some real luckFuck I'm gonna be chasing that dragon, aren't I I got to have 30 doubled landfall triggers, unf
When are we getting the last set for the New York block?
>>97648183Mana denial has to be fast to be good. SSG -> Blood Moon good. Wildfire bad. Also the best break in parity is just already being ahead. That's how land destruction decks worked historically. Jam an early threat and slam armageddon / winter orb.
>>97642471imagine making this post in fucking /edhg/. what a dumb self loathing tranny cunt. go outside
Post commanders that either nuke a pod or fizzle and do nothing, and basically never anything in between.
>>97648321I either have an amazing game with him or it's a massive shit show there's no in-between.
>>97648321>KOS commander who is the entire engine fizzles often.You don't say.
>>97648303>mana denial has to be early in turn order to be goodgod i hate eternal formats
>>97648344standard commander when
>>97648363Brawl. (It's shit)
>play a board wipe to stay in the game>one of the pods I play with always has someone that scoopsAt this point, I can't tell if I'm the faggot for playing the board wipe or if my friends are faggots for being such crybabies. Should I just make a sideboard to swap the board wipes with? I'm newer to EDH/MTG and don't understand the etiquette entirely
>>97648416the creator of edh sheldon made a huge mistake pandering to people that can't handle any kind of pushback, sorry about that
>>97648416>who is the faggotBoth, probably. The etiquette is whatever the group thinks leads to the most fun games. Scooping in response to board wipes is bitchmade. Boardwiping in low power levels turn the game into a slog, since players already struggle to find ways to close the game.
>>97648416Board wipes without breaking parity just prolong the game. So if youre doing that youre kind of a numpt. Single target removal is king for a reason, you can disrupt their gameplan instead of just flipping the table.
>>97648416Board wipes are absolutely nessiary in this game when somebody can just cheat out giant creatures with shroud/hex proof or shit out 300 1/1s. Interaction is the lifeblood of magic and if they don't like it they can go play competitive solitaire with the yugi boys
>>97648452>players already struggle to find ways to close the game.being bad at deckbuilding is also bitchmade>The etiquette is whatever the group thinks leads to the most fun gamesincorrect, as nobody can read minds and people often don't know what they wantbut people do know what they don't want, so the etiquette is actually to not be stupid
>>97648329I really thought this card was going to be a much bigger deal than it ended up
>>97648493it's pretty good for a mono red commander though, which is really all you can ask for
>>97648477Low power decks can be intentional and will struggle to close out the game. This isnt a point to get your ego in a twist over.>read mindsIts a friend group pod. Etiquette is easily established, I know this is hard for a turboautist to get thougheverbeit
>>97648416>Bro, board wipes are a part of magic, I need it to stay alive>so what if it's nearly 2 hours? >bro cmon, just one more board wipe, and then I'll find a wincon, I swear>dude, really? you are gonna scoop because I board wiped? >lol cmon dude, get better at magic, build a better deck, I've been drawing cards non-stop, if you have no hand and board state, that's a you problem. Maybe next time don't run 'fun' cards.>really? Calling me the N word because I cyclonic rifted before I died? >heh.. maybe I am just too good of a player.
>>97648497>Low power decks can be intentional and will struggle to close out the gamethis applies to any deck not just boardwipe.dec>Its a friend group pod.many a greentext has been made about friends deciding to do X only to regret it later on, i know this is hard for a turboautist to understand but people do in fact often don't know what they, the customer is always right "only in matters of taste" for a reason
>>97648533Absolutely none of this nonsense relates to what I typed anon.
>>97648513>build a better deckcorrectwatch as the casual isn't satisfied with getting MLD softbanned, they want to take your whole arm too
My best decks include no more than 2 board wipes. Protection and single target removal is better. Shitty players will board wipe for you, all you need is a few mana to break the parity
>>97648513None of your schizo headcanon actually happened though. It was a Sorcery that targeted only Artifacts and Enchantments. I specifically tried to target cards that gave them hexproof/shroud/indestructible/etc.I made sure not to target cards that gave them card draw or anything that I felt was a part of their deck's gameplan. I left quite a few of their Artifact Creatures and commander still alive. And they still scooped. It's like the pod just wants to attack risk-free and you're expected to take it.
>>97648538if etiquette was so easily established the guy wouldn't be posting about his pod crying about boardwipes in the first place
>>97648565Yes it is. Talk to your pod, not strangers on the internet. One conversation is all it takes, which again is very hard for turboautists, well and zoomers.
>>97648468I break parity by casting it when my opponents have a better board state than me.
>>97647710Anons better start suggesting creatures or I'm gonna cry about it.
>>97648580there is no "conversation" to be had when your pod is like this>>97648563there is only you kowtowing to such nonsense, which of course you're very experienced with
>>97648593That is not breaking parity anon.
>>97648541>bro bro bro just build a better deck>dude like just, just pay money to make counterfeits to buy the best in slot cards so it can be the same other decks>bro, who gives a shit, it's COMMANDER, WE GOTTA COMMAND the meta and be competitive, what, are you playing kiddie magic? >this is ADULT four way trading card game>no, I don't like poker>>97648563>dude, like I said, nothing happened, let me just tell you a bunch of shit you didn't even bother to read bro
>>97648603I mean that either isnt the same anon or he genuinely knows nothing about the game. Removing a few select artifacts and enchantments isnt a board wipe anon. Furthermore, whether or not they are bitches does not mean you cant establish a desired way to play together.
>>97647710>>97648597Post a link to the deck not an unreadable screenshot.
>>97648593Anon, that is creating parity.
>>97648607>mfw when a guy is salty that nobody is taking his quest to stigmatize boardwipe.dec seriously
>>97648605They lose things they played to advance their board, I lose things I played to chump block until I could cast my 7 mana commander. That's not an equal trade, therefore breaking parity.
>>97648620I have fun playing this game, and shitposting about playing this game. If you are posting here to resolve your drama or trying to sate your competitive urges on a social format and getting people upset, that's on you brother
>>97648625No im afraid its still not breaking parity. No matter how you look at it. And all this cope does is portray you as a bad pilot, and deck builder.
>>97648632>ok you got me>i was actually just shitpostingi never expected anything less
>>97648614>Removing a few select artifacts and enchantments isnt a board wipe anon.that's even worse as scooping to that is absolutely bitchmade, if they can't get over that then there's no helping things and finding a new pod is advised>The etiquette is whatever the group thinks leads to the most fun games>oh the group happens to be full of bitchmade? well you gotta be bitchmade too duhlol
>>97648620Its already stigmatized by the community at large anon.
>>97648644Worse is irrelevant. That isnt the same anon.>bitchmadeDo you think I care? Stop getting your ego in a twist anon. Its not your pod, and he wants to play games with his friends. Turboautists are so fucking annoying.
>>97648646the fact that not even gavin will stoop so low as to ban wraths in bracket 2 only shows that at a certain point, the masses are just too stupid
>>97648651>Do you think I care?>(people calling me out) are so fucking annoyingyeah, you really do care actually
>>97648669No i assure you I do not. Youre just painfully retarded and are putting your ego before helping an anon have good games with his friends.
I cast Winds of Change on my first turn whenever I see it in my hand.
>>97648638It's the same principle as in a 60 card control deck with one Wan Shi Tong as the wincon. The board wipes affect my opponents without hurting me. That's breaking parity no matter how you look at it.
>>97648618>>97647710https://archidekt.com/decks/20418945/secretary_of_defense
>>97648702Except its not.
>>97648678>have good games with his friendsthere can be no good games with people who will cry over you destroying their piecesthat's really no different than a pod saying mono black is banned and at that point you're better off leaving that pod to their isolated island and seek greener pasturesmethinks you're just assblasted that such narrowminded players exist and dialogue will solve everything including world peace, but such is life
>>97648416Board wipes aren't banned, if you scoop to them you're a pissbabby faggot.
>>97648742have you not thought of the vibes of brackets?
>>97648757Show me where its says "you can't play board wipes in this bracket"
>>97648765depends on vibes
>>97648757you should be considerate with my bracket 2 gameplan of wiping the board every other turn so my walkers can ult and end the game buddy boy
>>97648705here comes the airplaneaxebane guardian overgown battlementsylvan caryatidvine trellistransdimensional bovinegreat forest druidbedrock tortoise ancient adamantoiseSlagwurm ArmorSun Claspmeek stonecrackdownearthshapefell the mightydestined confrontation behind the scenesassemble the playerswelcoming vampire
>>97648721This is genuinely embarrassing for you anon, this isnt about you or your opinions.
>Play in a large regular pod, 6-8 people.>Of the group, only 3 of us have an idea how to play and build good decks.>2 of that 3 are trying to build and play lower power decks,>Bought a precon and was playing it just to see how it went before I modified it>The 4 man group I was in keep focusing me the entire time.>Tell them I get it, I'm usually the arch enemy, but like please read the board. my precon isn't going to suddenly out of the blue infinite combo off.>They keep doing it>Its been weeks.>Remind them again, that they need to read the board, my single creature that lets me kill to kill itself to draw a card isn't the bigger threat for a counter than the Sigarda Font of Blessings that the person before me just played.>Next game do the same shit>Fuck it, play my higher power deck and just beat them within 4 turns every game for the next 5.>They get pissy that "i'm just trying to win instead of having a chill time.">"You want to treat me like the threat every game when I'm just trying to shill, I'm going to be the threat.">Ask me not to come to game night anymore until I calm down.Was I really in the wrong
If you don't want to face board wipes then stick to bracket 1. Even precons have 3+
>>97648832>6-8 person podI'd rather shoot myself
>>97648828oh will you look at that, yet another greentext about retarded narrowminded opponents, like clockwork>>97648832>inb4 dialogue will surely solve the issue kek
>>97648841Yeah, I misspoke a bit one that. We have 6-8 players but break off into small pods of 3-4. 5 man is the largest we'll do for a single pod.
>>97648843Please stop embarrassing yourself anon. I dont care how badly your ego needs to win internet arguments. You are just incorrect, anon wants to play games with his friends, so he has to work out with his friends how games should look
>>97648828He is correct though?
>>97648843I don't know if you're trying to imply samefag or were just trying to segway.
>>97648867>he has to work out with his friends how games should looki've already said my piece, now feel free to give concrete steps to anon#2 instead of waxing poetic yet again>I dont care how badly your ego needs to win internet argumentsand yet i never said anything about winning arguments so in truth you're just mad that you're being called out lol
>>97648816Based, thank you anon
>>97648836i don't actually like to play magic, i just like to win. you using a board wipe is just wasting my time.
>>97648913>i don't want to interact with anybody, i just want to solitaire and win>no i absolutely don't know how to do that effectively and efficientlyyou're perfect for bracket 1
Best card from TMNT coming through.
>>97648937I like this but what do I do with it?
>>97648937For my Falco Spara deck this guy is up there
>>97648941Put her in Mothman.
>>97648949NTA, but now I need to buy one.
>>97648937bought 8 at 50c each on pre-release saturday because I'm a clone enjoyer and knew this was peak the moment it was spoiled. feels good.
>>97648937that rgb keyboard 100% increased her power level
>>97648947This guy was a fucker in pre-release
>>97648937That's not the Ooze
>>97648983I'm planning to build a second Mothman deck focused on clones once my secret lair comes in. So many TMNT cards are going in it.
>>97648937Straight into Toymaker she goes. Can't get enough legendary cloning.
>>97648937Yeah this card is going to shoot to the fucking moon. It's already doubled in price since Friday and will continue to climb as influencers start talking about it. Couple that with nobody really cracking TMNT packs and she's going to skyrocket.
>>97649070Why though? What do you do with her in the zone?
I wonder how much Raphs Jitte will go for
>>97649070She's a precon card
>>97649086She's more valuable as a 99 piece. She can, for example, come down on turn 3, you play any commander that needs to attack at 4 mana (like Azula) and she can trigger them on turn 4 instead of 5. She can double triggered effects of essentially any commander/legendary that's not an etb as long as you do it during combat (Steal 2 creatures as an Edea for example).>>97649096She is? Good, that will keep the value down (she's still already 10$ though).
>>97649054Sad fact. I dumped my entire mutate strategy from Toymaker because we recently got so many legendary clones it became unnecessary.
>>97649091It's less than 5$ right now. 13-14 for a foil, and those are prerelease prices which will go down. Umezawa's Jitte prints by and large don't retain much value.
>>97648639I just don't know how you can read this post: >>97648513 and assume it's not shitposting. I think you may be legitimately autistic or have assburgers, which is consistent with your inability to read the room as it were.
>>97649162>and assume it's not shitpostingNTA but I've seen worse here that was genuine.
>have descent of avernus out with 4 counters on it>flash this out>people are more mad about shit getting exiled than a tie or losing
>>97649184Mill causes bad players to lose their shit. News at 11.
What are the best white "catch up" ramp cards?
>>97649295land tax, weathered wayfarer
>>97649302Both of those are amazing fucking cards, but neither of them are ramp.
>>97649295Archaeomancer's Map
>>97649326>>97649328blocks you're path
>>97649339How do you best take advantage of that?
>>97649344
>>97649344It puts you technically behind in land count so you can still use your catch up ramp. The catch up ramp cards are often good enough that you'll end up being ahead or caught up in lands fast so you need something that keeps you mana positive but behind on lands.
>>97648874Objectively not. As anon wants good games with his friends and he is not helping achieve that at all, he is egomaxxing and saying if you arent playing how I want it cant be fun. Its okay rampant ego is very common here so im not surprised you agree.
>>97649479All I am getting is you think board wipes are unfun which is insane
>>97648937Genuinely not a very good card and will drop faster than the twin towers. Clones are good because you can get nice ETBs with them. This is just a lame roundabout doubler which we have a million of
>>97648416It's indeterminate just from what you posted. Players should reasonably expect to protect their boards but there's a cutoff where when someone plays their third boardwipe because it was topdecked, it's just tiresome.
just want to remind you anons that this card is complete dogshit. If some retard starts shilling it, filter all their other takes because they're obviously braindead.
>>97649621It's a bad heroic intervention that baits you into thinking it's good because of extra ETB triggers and getting around toxic deluge. It's not unplayable, just mediocre.
>>97649621this but only because it is UB
>>97649621This is a good card. Id like to hear your argument for why its bad anon.>>97649630>heroic interventionAbsolutely braindead comparison.
>>97649645List any number of cases this is better than Heroic Intervention. For each case you list I will list two where Heroic Intervention is better.
>>97649651This isnt an argument for why the card is bad. You get one more attempt anon.
>>97649645Alright yeah it's not the best comparator, prevention vs recovery is a fine line but I can't off the top of my head think of a more comparable effect since one of it's modes is just "fuck I don't want to lose all my stuff in a boardwipe"It can help salvage your board state through board clears but also has proactive use cases like saccing shit and bringing them back on your turn like those black scam effects, but this is way better because you get your choice after your shit goes rather than needing to prep it.If you're using it defensively it's mediocre, if you're doing proactive stuff with it, it's pretty damn good.
>>97649651blocks you're path
>>97649344Untap that shit.
Which mana rock tastes the best
>>97649670Personally ill be slotting it into my Asmira deck as every creature in that deck (besides asmira) sacrifices itself for good effect. This is a fantastic piece of recursion. I wouldn't even think of it as boardwipe "protection" or anything although the fact it can double as that is a nice little bonus.
>>97648513so what IF it's nearly 2 hours tho. you gonna cry? scoop maybe?
>>97649755The original post was seething about someone else scooping so yes
>>97648913playing mtg is for wasting time already
>>97649762das de joke
>>97649621Okay but what about when I want to spam evoke 4 creatures?
>>97649621Seems useful if I am in some sort of b/w sacrifice deck abusing death triggers. 2 mana is a pretty small ask.
>anon, your deck is not bracket 2..I'm convinced the bracket system is a scheme made by racists to systematically segregate "things I don't personally like" just like they do irl
>>97649838based if true
>>97649838It's for angle shooting
>grab a couple of innistrad remastered packs because I feel like gambling>both have a slow land>cool>both have a very offset holofoil stampI sure love quality control!
>>97649897nice try anon. thats a freebie you got from your latest order of chink counterfeits.
>>97649949the chinamen do better QC
>finally say down and went through all of my bulk>priced and set aside everything that was over $2>had over $500 in random cards I wasn't using in any decks>all my valuable stuff is in my decks currently >still have a shit ton of bulk left over Makes you realize how so many cards are fucking worthless
>>97649651It's good because its heroic intervention for decks that don't have green in them. I run it in my Mardu equipment and my vampire deck because it protects all my permanents
>>97649736Locking in this one, it looks like it's made of candy.
What is the difference between losing to a craterhoof or 300 scuttle swarms turn 5, instead of a combo?
>>97650289the fairness of the combo depends on my deck
>>97650289Nothing. All interactions are combos, some are just better than others.
>>97649621I think it has it's uses I wouldn't say it's a dogshit card
>>97643302Neat, it's even a good cosplay. Good on him
>>97643733They don't. It's like trying to police That Guy in DnD. You deal with toxic players by telling them to fuck off not trying to tard-wrangle them into playing properly.
>>97649836This. Ratadrabik practically creams himself over it. You can pull so much bs with it.
>>97650542doesn't work the way you think it does
>>97650521This applies to rule zero btw
>>97643733>Equating cost to power>Everyone telling you, you aren't at a level of a 2>You seemingly agreeing with them but refusing to moveThey work just fine, everyone knows your budget deck isn't a 2, you're just being a bad actor about it.
>>97650548How does it not work? >Have Ratadrabik, Mondrak and maybe two more legends on the board>Someone boardwipes>With the trigger on the stack, get all of them back>Ratadrabik trigger of Mondrak creates two tokens>Other trigger(s) create 8 eachIt's free real estate. You just have to know when to play it.
>>97650568No, they dont. They're a kiddie pool for retarded bads to feel good about themselves while but WOTC sees them as distinct formats. The sad part is the absence of good deck building is immediately apparent whenever anyone posts a list discussing them.
>>97650611>Know exactly where you deck is within the confines of the brackets, the thing they are designed to do so people can agree to play where they want in rule 0 and catch bad actors>They don't workSeems like you're just upset you got caught outside you lane.
>>97650627What is my lane anon? Who am I? Certainly not the person you think.
>>97650561>muh rule zeroanother autistic take on this format
>>97651040Sheldon was wrong to placate casuals yes
>>97651192What's wrong with placating casuals in a casual joke format?
>>97651293At least with UB you can rely on casuals paying for cardboard, but in regards to how edh should be run casuals are to be dismissed entirely
>>97649487She's basically a backup commander once you hit a single combat though.
>>97649621ah yes 2 mana for non cmc or power based graveyard creature recursion straight to the battlefield in MONO FUCKING WHITE is bad because...uhh...it has to be from that turn (doesnt even have to be your turn) fucking abysmal dogshit take
>>97651329So you think edh ought to be a sanctioned format?
>>97649736The Fellwar Stone looks like an egg so I choose it
Akroma's Will is such a slop card in casual holy fuck
>>97651415>So you think edh ought to be a sanctioned format?Why not? Type 2 didnt stop casual 60 card kitchen table so why would edh be any different
>>97651356Bruh they had to be put in the graveyard FROM THE BATTLEFIELD. Are you taking crazy pills, or are you just fairly new and low power? Second sunrise is this but way better and if you want it one sided, faith's reward is the same shit. That card is only good with evoke rescaminator mh2 style cards, and wotc will never print those again after the rape of legacy by grief.
>>97651523>OMHECKINGOD I CANT CHEAT 4 10 MANA CREATURES OUT FOR LITERALLY 2 HONKIN MANA???? LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!!!!This format is in such a sad fucking state where people think any card that doesnt just bypass the entire fucking cost system of the game is ass. Go fucking play Yugioh if you want to pay nothing for your cards>low power!Any pod where this card is too "low power" to be used is a pod that isnt playing commander worth a damn
>>97651523>each playerNo second sunrise is not always better. And faiths reward is twice as expensive. Youre genuinely bad at card assessment.>from the battlefieldYes everyone can read the card.
>>97651547Keep your caps lock and shitposting to yourself. Would you like me explain to you, tiny baby bad at magic anon? You have the opinions of someone very new or being very bad on purpose.
>>97651556You already spent 4 mana at minimum on your dumbass creatures, you arent playing that card to be efficient.
>>97651565Genuinely retarded lmao
>>97648937Worse than Gogo.
>>97651636Go on then, explain a situation where you dont have 4 mana available to use Faiths Reward and could use that card, with no other nonsense like "I spent my mana and only have 2 left".
>post rate and judge your five mono-colored commandersYou do have a deck for one of each, right?
>>97651647Its easier to keep up 2 mana than 4. You might be the dumbest person to ever post in this thread anon.>>97651659Pretty MID choices hipsteranon
>>97651669You're using it as a combat trick. A combat trick. You're using that card as a combat trick and acting smug. Adorable, you do you, you arent trying to win the game.
>>97651659I only have three right now
>>97651659Black:Lobelia (theft), Gollum (lifegain one)Red:Kellan (voltron), Varchild swaps between going tall and wide pretty well,Green:Gargos (target spells control), Sasaya (big mana group suicide), Yedora (cheeky combo shit)Blue:Thada Adel (artifact/voltron)White:Nadaar (flicker), pearl (enchants), Oswald (thousand moon smithy token deck)
>>97651675Thats.... not what combat tricks are in magic anon. I will be using it as recursion.
>>97651659I only have two at the moment. Black Vincent and Light-Paws for White. I had an initial list drafted up for Eladamri Korvecdal but the play patterns ended up being kind of boring when I playtested it.I also built Ashling, Flame Dancer around when MH3 came out but I hated the way it played so I took it apart. Blue would probably be easy to build for since it has so many interesting mono commanders but anything I've wanted to do with it has been covered by Izzet or Simic.
>>97651659No. I only have 2 mana commanders and all of them have blue
>>97651703A french vanilla combat trick, reactively. If you arent using it proactively, you arent using it to win the game.
>>97651741No objectively it is not a combat trick. No matter what words you use, it is not a combat trick. Im afraid ill need you to post a deck so that I can judge your abilities before I take you seriously. To prove the deck you post is yours ill need you to add an off color basic land to the list as well.
>>97649736do NOT eat the game pieces
>>97651747Technically it is, because you can use it to change the results of combat. I post my decks all the time, and you appear to be an idiot. Anyways, you have a few choices for decks. What level do you play at anon?
>>97651781Not seeing a link anon.
>>97651798I asked you a question, faggot. What level do you play at? I have a wide variety of options and I want to make sure it's at a level you understand.
>>97651810Still not seeing a link>random copeI am a better player and deckbuilder. Stop stalling
>>97651819Last chance. What level do you play at? I dont play these retard games, and indulging you at all appears to have been a mistake.
>>97651822What a shock that the person sperging all thread because his card analysis is shit cant post a SINGLE deck list url
That's it. I'm playing my Flubs deck tonight and I will NOT apologize about my 20 minute turn that likely will not end the game.
>>97651826Yup, and that's that. Aint fussed. Was it really too hard to say "I play bracket 2" or whatever stupid shit?
>>97651855It genuinely wouldnt matter? Because your deckbuilding skills would show through no matter the deck. Youre just stalling, probably do you could find a decklist that met the criteria. I already assured you im a better player than you so there isnt too complex or too high level a deck you could post.>>97651819Plain as day anon lmao. Get spanked bitch
>>97651659Here's mine. I've also been considering building Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded.
>>97649108She doesn't work with Edea's first ability.
Is there a better feeling than exiling the graveyard of the reanimator player after he makes some play which puts his entire library in the grave?
>>97651984Yeah, playing trinisphere. Every. Single. Time.
>>97651984It's great punishing any deck that capitalizes on being greedy because of the lack of hate for landfall and graveyard recursion in the format.
>>97651659>WhiteCelestial Krin, spirit/boardwipe tribal>Blue>Black>RedSyr Carah, Dragon's Approach untap-and-win storm>GreenBaru Wurmspeaker, typical big stompy wurms with untappers to make more wurms
>>97651659Based choices.
>>97651984People need to understand that the gy can be interacted with, just like you hold heroic intervention for your permanents, you hold counterspell against some gy hate
>>97651984resolving back to basics
>>97651659It's the 5 saga phyrexian praetors. I just think they're neat
I really wanna build a sort of "gotcha" deck. the idea of playing things opponents need to fall for.I know there are literal things like take the bait or comeuppance but once people know you have them they don't do much.what are your favorite "he fell for it again" type of cards or synergies and what not?For example I like instant speed graveyard abilities because people rarely remember you have a flashback spell there.
>>97652378Some of the most unplayable jank of all time
>>97652378the "trap" cycle of instants that get discounted if your opponents play cards
>decide to check out 3/3 elk stream>recommends against Icetill explorer in a Hearthhull deck with fetchlands because "it's not very good">afraid to run shifting woodlands with dark depths because it's "too good for bracket 3"????people PAY him to make their decks worse????
>>97652469yes, I saw one "deck doctor" stream where he was replacing manarocks with 6+ mana spells. not even joking
>>97651973Not the first turn she transforms into her no, but every turn after that she will. The transformation is permanent as long as you don't choose to transform her into something else, it doesn't say "until end of turn".
>>97652469He's a gay diaperfur, did you expect him to have good opinions?The fact he's one of the many small magitubers pushing that "erm mana rocks are bad actually" thing should have been clue enough.
>>97652495I run ample amount of artifact hate, so I love people running rocks over land.
>>97652499You can only play 1 land per turn in 4 of the 5 colors. No one is playing mana rocks INSTEAD OF land you fucking tard.
>>97652495>erm mana rocks are bad actuallyDid he get molested by a Glissa deck?
>>97652171I'm in monoblack the best I've got is footbottom feast. I think black should get more cards to protect their graveyard, considering that tormod's crypt is 0 mana
>>97652495Thats his one good take though.
>>97652554Black's targeted discard in edh should be buffed
>>97651984>be greedy>get punished thats how the wheel turns. run elixir of immortality, dumb bitch
>>97652511Anon if I had a nickel for every time I saw someone miss a land drop and play a rock id be a millionaire
>>97652585I play 42 lands and I'll still miss my fourth land
>>97652530No these people just have to come up with "hot takes" to drive clicks>>97652557It's retarded. Every fucking time one of these people makes the argument, they immediately fucking cuck to hypotheticals where your commander is super low CMC or there are better ways to ramp with that specific commander etc.It's a retarded argument conceived of solely so people point out how dumb it is.>>97652585So you're saying the mana rock wasn't in the deck they'd just be fucked?
>>97652469??? Do people really just optimize the fun out of their deck??I routinely cut good shit for funny stuff? I mirror formed 40 tokens into descent into madness and exiled everyone’s shit
>>97652692Winning is fun ano >inb4 why are you playing to win in sheldon's game where he crowned his favorite card rhystic study as the spirit of the format
>>97652709>winning is funIt is. But why pick something anti-competitive to sate your competitive urge? Most green texts I see are people bitching about getting ostracized
>>97652722If conpetitive sports can be made into a joke via women's sports i dont see why children's card games and excel spreadsheets cant be made competitive; it goes both ways you know
>>97652641>so youre saying If the mana rock was a land, they'd get that +1 mana for free you absolute fucking retard lmao. I dont know their arguments but ramp is very overplayed.
>>97651925Do it, hes extremely fun
Still no decklist without mana rocks postedKataki and green decks with all the rampant growth variants don't count
>>97652378I dont know if it fits your criteria, but Sudden Spoiling has left tons of players upset and defeated looking when i drop it. Like bitch ass aristocrat decks. Split Second is my favorite mechanic, wish we had more
>>97652692If you're paying for deckbuilding advice, the person better give damn good advice on how to improve the deck not "make it more fun."
>>97652761>If the mana rock was a landBut it wasn't. That's like saying if the mana rock was a board wipe or a counterspell. Cutting 1 type of card from your deck doesn't suddenly make you draw the cards you need in a given situation.
>>97652783>Still no decklist without mana rocks postedI'll show you!>>97652783>green decks with all the rampant growth variants don't countOh.
>>97652783And if I post one, then what? What do I get out of this? And what's wrong with rampant growth?
>>97649651The Nitpicking Nerds don't like this card for some reason.
>>97652824Well no, the argument is to replace your mana rocks with lands, at least my view on them. So yeah, that mana rock would be a land. Because the rock you drew.... was replaced with a land.
>>97652783Not a single one of my decks has more than 2 or 3 rocks. And thats only because they actually fit into the theme. For example Ellyn has this one, because its great in a token deck. My ragost has the 2 mana rocks that untap on each player's upkeep, because it fits into the deck. The argument isnt NONE, its not an excessive amount that actually dont fit into your deck
>>97652783https://archidekt.com/decks/14449773/urza_mana_rocks
>>97652994>Well no, the argument is to replace your mana rocks with lands, at least my view on them. So yeah, that mana rock would be a landDo you legit have autism? Just because you play less rocks and play more lands doesn't mean in any given instance that a card you drew would have been a land. That's not how probability works.
>>97652554Elixir, either, gravepurge, etc. There's otns of instant speed responses
>>97652945Nitpicking Nerds was a gay dude and an autistic twig, and now it's a former single mom OF-thot and a cuck. I wouldn't be too concerned about what they think.
>>97653076>former single mom OF-thotWait... is that true? I feel like the gay guy got hosed.
>>97653006I've thought about including that. Has it worked well for you?
>>97653076>former single mom OF-thot and a cuck.Uh, what?
>>97653132>>97653132>>97653132
>>97652495>pushing that "erm mana rocks are bad actually" thing should have been clue enough.That above is only good for the types of people who run like 30 lands and 10 rocks.
>>97653046No i think youre just actually retarded kr just incredibly dishonest. In the scenario given, if rocks were replaced with lands, then the rock you played.... would be a land. Probability isnt relevant here. You had a rock, and it was replaced with lands.>>97653108Incredibly well, especially if you have untap synergies of course. I think its worth the hit coming in tapped still though because its 1 free bomb a turn after that.
>>97653094>>>97653076 (You)>>former single mom OF-thot>Wait... is that true? I feel like the gay guy got hosed.>>97653128>>97653076 (You)>former single mom OF-thot and a cuck.Uh, what?Yeah. She has an OF and charges outrageous prices. No nudity that I know of, but from the pics she posted you can tell she has had a kid by all the stretchmarks around her stomach and hips. Beezy is a cuck. Joe Cherries the gay is actually more straight. Funny.
>Build a deck that hits green>massively durdle because I have no real idea how to rampI'm so bad at this game.
>>97653283>no nudity
>>97653547The fuck do you mean by “hits green”It has green or it doesn’t have green?If it has green then:>Rampant Growth>Cultivate>Kodama’s Reach>Explore>Farseek>Three Visits>Nature’s LoreCongrats you now know how to ramp.If it doesn’t have green then we need to know what colors you DO have
>>97653283>look her upOh yeah no I'm good thanks for the info tho
