LET ME IN Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh >Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Previous Thread:>>97644540>Thread questionWhat's an old rule from previous editions you have fond memories of?
>>976477976e chaos lord boon table
>>97647797im a 10th ed babby
>TQ
>>97647808that takes me back, i still remember my mates juggerlord rolling to get shrouded which he procceeded to jump from ruin to ruin with a squad of spawn with a 2+ cover save, it was bullshit.
>>97647797>TQ...Poisonous Weapons
>>97647745I pin before painting because drilling the pins in takes a bit of force which can rub paint off
What are speed paints?
>>97647836Double up as a stimulant so you can snort them and work through your dudes faster
>>97647836a different brand of contrast paint
I hope if GW does bring back chaos androids they are bought back as only vaguely humanoid to give them a separate aesthetic from Necrons (who were the OG chaos androids of course)
What is the Alabama of the Imperium?
>>97647877Genestealer cults have the hills have eyes going for them.
Am I doing washes wrong? It feels like it just darkens my model and make it look shit
>>97647877The entire Imperium.
Any NidGODS around to tell me if the combat patrol is worth it?
>>97647884you're supposed to reapply your basecoats over flat surfaces so that the wash darkens only recesses
>>97647889Pick up a Leviathan half for cheap off of Ebay while you still can.
Made and magnetised an impulsor. Reckon I'm going to paint my Skorpekh Lord next. I think he'll fit the 'big stick' theme well enough to make the collage if I get him done in time.
>>97647893WHATARE YOU SERIOUSSo wash is only the halfway point, then re-paint?
>>97647884That's what it's meant to do, it's meant to add depth/shadows to the model.it works better over models with a lot ot texture vs large flat surfaces, so if you're painting it on space marines or vehicles you may want to just recess shade so you avoid the bad pooling look.
>>97647884You're probably laying it on too thick, but that's also more or less what they're supposed to do, the wash is a middle step to painting a model. Basecoat -> wash -> layer -> highlight
>>97647899wash is generaly the second step you do after you put your base coat on, then you focus on layering and highlighting details.got a pic of what you're working on?
>>97647884I paint a little brighter than I otherwise would, so the wash darkens it to what I had in mind.
>>97647899I mean if you want to you can apply the wash directly into the recesses to skip the relayering but it usually takes longer. Go watch a Duncan video, you should get the idea of a basic workflow
>>97647899you can try to be careful and only apply the wash to the recesses instead of dunking the whole model in it.
So my raptors built with chain weapons are just fucking USELESS now huh
>>97647932>building for the game instead of looks>playing compAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>97647899To be fair. >undercoat>base coat>wash>layering>edge highlightIs the recipe for some of the sexiest and cleanest models out there
Sisters: Zephyrim down 5/10, repentia down 5.Aedari - wave serpents down 10,5, banshees +1A, AoK down 25guard - Grizzled's additional armouir now 1 attack like aoccrons - all c'tan go from 5+++ to 6+++. Nightbringer +15pts, transcendent/ Void Dragon +10 and Deciever +25. technowraith FNP to 6+++Marine repex to 240, wardens +10, redemptor +5, gravisgar can no longer join victrix, combi lt +15drukhari - out of phase charge now immediately after movement instead of end of phase, hellions no longer get +1S with pain token, incubi -5, kabs -10EC daemon prince +101k Sons - Twist of Fate now 10/13 instead of 9/12,tau - stealth suits now are at 70pts for 3 as an option to take it smallerdespoilers +10 for 400 totalno further changes this edition
>>97647945>eavy metal>cleanestI guess>sexiestdebatable
>>97647899It doesn't have to be, no. Washes make great filters if you're using light and shadow tones that don't quite match. Slopping on a wash, rinsing your brush and then cleaning off some areas before it dries is a valid final step in the process.
>>97647948>banshees +1AThey fucking WHAT
>>97647939There's a difference between playing competitive and your unit just hitting like a wet noodle and not having the strict upgrades you paid for. I hate no wargear costs.This is kind of an annoying thing with CSM in general, where you have so many oodles of special weapons now thanks to the kill teams building normal guys is "wrong". Normal bolter csm have barely ANY reason to exist, despite "guy with bolter" looking cool as fuck, and even chainsword legionaires barely have space.
>>97647948>Marine repex to 240, wardens +10, redemptor +5, gravisgar can no longer join victrix, combi lt +15fair
>>97647948>orks: unchanged; gsc: unchangedi thought that was going to be the case
>>97647948>stealth suits now are at 70pts for 3 as an option to take it smaller>3 as an option to take it smallerThis is fake. GW would never be consumer friendly.
>>97647948>drukhari>out of phase charge now immediately after movement instead of end of phaseFair. Probably needed. But that one strat has been propping up the whole faction hard because they are awful outside of spectacle.>hellions no longer get +1S with pain token, That also hurts a lot because Hellions are the only real hammer unit the faction has since the incubi nerf outside of epic heroes.>incubi -5, kabs -10Eh, both help but Incubi are still not nearly as great anymore without access to reroll wounds and Kabalites are still overcosted at 105. Weird that they aren't even going to try touching Hand of the Archon despite it being total trash compared to Kabalites and their last update that let them use venoms still not fixing their main ability to work in transports.
>>97647948fake and gay
I managed to find the actual leaksSisters, Astra Militarum, Imperium: Deleted due to redditry
>>97647994stealth suits haven't even been available for months
>>97647932You can use 1 in a melee focused 5 model unit, or 3 in a melee focused 10 model unit now :) They should have just gone with the accursed weapon meme if they were gonna make raptors jump-chosen.
>>97647885Most Space Marine worlds on account of being bigger than normal shitholes that the Adeptus Terra doesn't touch. The fact that Ultramar is nice often obfuscates the fact that 90% of astartes worlds are utter shitholes that contribute nothing to the Imperium beyond aspirants for their respective chapters
>>97648063USA? A ton of shit hasn't been available here for a long time. Probably because shipping and tariffs are expensive as hell right now.
Lets say we get "Plasma" as a possible collage theme, what would that be?Aside from the obvious Hellblasters and Havocs, I think there could be:Kasrkin?Crisis suits w/ plasma weaponsGauss ImmortalsI don't really know the other factions well enough to know easy analogues. I'm sure Sisters, Admech and Agents all have some sort of plasma tech as well.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>97648114>interested in chaos because i didnt want to play imperium marine faggotry>chaos is just marinefaggotry but with cooler modelsXeno it is
>>97648103A ton of shit isn't available anywhere, because that's GW's new buisness model. Instead of making a range of kits for the game that they keep in stock and have to sit on and not sell for who knows how long, they release a never ending churn of HOT NEW PRODUCTS that they sell out of after the initial production run, and restock eventually some day maybe if they have machine time and it's been out of stock long enough for demand to recharge. And then they go out of print after just a few years when the HOT NEW PRODUCT sales bonus has completely run out. Evertything short of the most generic core units is destined for the legends bin withing the next decade tops.>>97648106Havocs dont get plasma weapons
>>97648114vtuber poster with the most retarded ritual post, shocking
>>97648103Not just the US, GW subtly take shit down off the store all the time. They did it to stealth suits in preparation for the new kit.
How do you guys know if a model line is a refresh?
>>97648133it brings me infinite joy to see people seethe this hard about chubas
>>97648143I'm just calling you retarded bro, it's not that intimate.
WTF do I buy to get started with Nids? I want a good mix of small, medium and big guys 4U, but with a bias towards larger models
>>97648165the combat patrol you like better
>>97648127Oop yeah that was my bad, I was thinking of the squad leader which can take it. Just checked and the rest can't.Chosen with plasma pistols then?
>>97648143every vtuber has a boyfriend, they are not interested in you as a person, they are not interested in any other vtubers, it is all a work like prowrestling
>>97648127What units for your army do you know are going to be legends one day?For orks, I'm thinking>all beast snagga units>the named nonsense nounverber buggies >mek guns>gorkanaught/morkanaught (but something else will exist it can proxy for easily)
>>97648143Parasocial relationships are not normal or healthy
>>97648185Ok. And?People still enjoy pro wrestling knowing it's fake because it's still entertainingIt's like saying you can't like characters from anime or video games because their voice actors are married and don't care about youEnjoying parasocial passtimes is not the same as replacing them with actual socialization
>>97648203>replacing them with actual socializationreplacing actual socialization with them*I am drunk and dyslexicEither way, everything in moderation
>put some steps on a base for part of a nice urban basing scheme>cut and sand the edge of the steps to align with the diameter of the top of the base>realize that I can no longer make that base slot onto a larger diorama without a substantial gapDo I start over, decide it's fine if I can't use it for a project I'd probably never do, or target myself in my next shooting phase?
>>97648165Right now on ebay you can find the Tyranid half of the Starter Set (The equivalent of their original Combat Patrol) for ~$110 shipped that comes with>20 Termagants + 2 Ripper Swarms>5 Barbagaunts>3 Von Ryan's Leapers>Winged Tyranid Prime>PsychophageA lotta little guys, a few medium guys, and a single big guy.
>>97648185NTA but I don't mind that they have a boyfriend, I'm not single anyways.I like how they feel more authentic than normal egirl streamers in how they talk/act. That said I find parasocial fans of vtubers and facecam streamers equally cringey.
>>97648226LOL
>>97648226>That said I find parasocial fans of vtubers and facecam streamers equally cringeyLike the ritualposter in this very thread?
>40kg: vtrooners slapfighting over their oishiis>tow: gay chinese furriesCommon Age of GODmar cultural victory.
>drybrush with white thinking it'll make the recesses and raised parts pop>do it>model just looks like it's covered in cum
>>97648221I'm going to go with the cope option. If I didn't, then I'd have to extend EVERY model's basing scheme to extend to their base's bottom diameter.
>>97648188Felgor Ravagers for sure, and probably all the other cultist units they've added recentlyDaemon engines other than the Defiler are high risk, venomcrawler is going to get squated as soon as oblits get their own sculpt.Master of Execution models will be chaos lord proxies for sure one day, same as MoP. Hellbrutes maybe?The nightlords and red corsairs will obviously just end up as normal csm again eventually.
>>97648242>drybrush>thinking it'll do anything to the recessesWeren't thinking much, were you?
>>97648237Sigmar models are generally better than 40k too, although when 40k models are allowed to be good, they're fantastic
>>97648136it wasn't even subtle with the stealth suits. it was out of stock for a couple months before the new kill team, and then they only did one wave of product and have never restocked
>>97648232Ritualposters like the vtuber guy sure, but honestly I haven't seen a lot of them like DEldar-refresh guy, Dreadnought spam and beaner kan post in here for a while. Maybe the turboretard sperg'd them into submission with his spindley queer claws>Inb4 called some monkey/ape noun
>>97648232the ritualposter is a well rounded modelposteryou are an impotent tourist who tries to police our general
>>97648248I think they phone it in a lot on 40k just doing shit for a paycheck to fund the actual passion projects in the specialist games and aos which is basically just people with questionable taste getting all the resources of gw to make their bad kitbash gimmick fantasy army a fully realized plastic range - always high effort and soulful, if not actually very good lucking.
>>97648226>I like how they feel more authentic than normal egirl streamers in how they talk/act.When everyone is pretty, no one is. And therefore content and personality becomes the most important part. Sure, some of them are playing a character. But you'd have to have an iron will to perfectly play that character for 2-5 hours at a time. Meanwhile, meat streamers just show their tits to get 10 billion horny teenagers and third worlders and have the personality of the most annoying white woman you can think of.
>>97648106What are the Eldar/Corsair/Drukhari equivalents of Plasma?
See I don't get why people don't just go for actual camsluts, they at least do shit for you
>>97648273they think its too degenerate.
How can you avoid accidentally hitting other areas of a model when painting, especially trim?>just paint inside the lines bro :)But that's really hard...
>>97648265If you habitually watch any streamer you're kind of gay desu, unless it's like a 1 hour show a week talking about some specific topic you're interested in or something like that. If you're watching asmongold or gooki gaka chan or whatever the fuck for 3 hours or as background noise it's as a friend/girlfriend simulator.
>>97648273because I want to watch people play video games or talk about interesting shit, not goon
>>97648133I just like Chaos :D
>>97648141Just looking at what's old as shit but hasn't been deleted from the Codexes and sent to Legends.Drukhari and Grey Knights are obvious.Catachan and Raven Wing as well.
>>97648280You, generally speaking, can't completely (although you'll get better over time.) Best advice is to paint the color with better coverage first, then the other, and correct mistakes carefully. For example, if you were painting black legion, paint your black, then your gold, and then it's easy to cover up any stray gold with quick fixes.
>>97648185>every vtuber has a boyfriendYeah, me.
>>97648288I FUCKING HATE CHAOS
>>97648280You only have to finish neat.
>>97648273As >>97648285 says, they want a parasocial female friend, not porn.
>>97648288That's nice and all but you don't have to post the same unfunny "joke" and pic every. goddamn. thread.
I painted Dr Robuttnik
>>97648272>Eldar PlasmaStarcannons. Mountable on pretty much any Eldar unit with heavy weapon options.
Why did GW suddenly insist that the Imperium is not a good guy faction? They came out officially several times to refute that the Imperials are good guys.
>>97648284It's no better or worse than a radio talk show
>>976481411.old2.not a weird niche concept that has only ever had one model (those will just get squatted)Chaos bikers for example. Although I guess GW has been squatting and unsquatting lately, with the mutilators.
>>97648349>suddenly
>>97648349It's odd after spending decades glorifying the Imperium to say stuff like that.
>>97648357>it's satire because we did the thing but just claimed it's satiricalMany such cases
>>97648349I mean yea, that's a pretty accurate description. They are the best guys out of a bunch of bad guys. If anything the depiction of the imperium has been getting MORE positive and heroic, not less, so it's not some effort to own le facists by making space marines evil or whatever.
>>97648357I think it's funny that they say this and then publish imperiumwank at every turn possible and impossible.
>>97648377>Warzone Chalnath
>>97648376Yea, they want to be the "it's all morally grey!" setting, while also having unabiguously heroic perfect ubermench slaughtering ravenous space monsters to defend humanity. The imperium can, at worst, be wasteful and callous towards human life, and overly paranoid about the theat of moral corruption, but considering moral corruption can literally lead to the souls of an entire planet being consumed by demons, who can blame them?
>>97648375>They are the best guys out of a bunch of bad guys.Are they? Are they really?
Craftworld Eldar are the most morally good faction in the setting but I dunno if we're ready for that talk.
>>97648341I like it
>>97648392Don't think so.The snippets are from White Dwarf 480.
I'm trying to put together a basic 500 point list to learn how to play this game with.Chaplain - 60 pts5x Intercessors - 80 pts5x Intercessors - 80 pts5x Hellblasters - 110 pts3x Bladeguard Veterans - 80 pts3x Eradicators - 90 ptsthat's 500 points exactly.Is that a decent array of guys for a couple learning games? Should I swap out a squad for another character?
>>97648349Does anyone actually genuinely like the Imperium BECAUSE they think they're the good guys? Like for me its a combination of them being the big empire of the present setting and them being the human faction which draws me to them, nothing about them being the goodest good guys of the setting.
>>97648407>Does anyone actually genuinely like the Imperium BECAUSE they think they're the good guys?I think some people said it as a joke but they ended up believing it at some point.
>>97648407>Does anyone actually genuinely like the Imperium BECAUSE they think they're the good guys?theres a whole wargame of people playing an army where they think they're the good guys, its called bolt action and they play germans
>>97648349The Imperium has never been the good guys, but GW realized that a lot of 40k fans are too uncultured or stupid to realize that so every now and then they have to say so directly.
>>97648407Making the majority of humanity suffer is an inherently good action.
>>97648396>Setting aside [thing CWE did not contribute to and actively tried to prevent]>CWE are bad because they direct threats to their survival to attack other threats to their survival>They also aren't naive enough to think their 'allies' won't turn on them in an instant, especially since the Imperium actively purged Humans who were allied to Eldar during the Great CrusadeSit down.
>>97648411This anon has never spoken to an actual Bolt Action player. It's actually the Soviet players.
>>97648413They are the unequivocal good guys of the setting, read it and weep chaos scum.
>>97648431Bolt action players will never tell you they are a wehraboo until you prove yourself, last thing they want is to be banned from the gamestore
>>97648434No, anon. The Imperium is evil. Chaos is also evil. Xenos? Also evil. That's the whole point of the setting. They're all bad. There are no good guys. In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only war. That's the whole concept of the setting.
>>97648407Good or bad doesn't really matter, I like them because they're interesting. It's a bizarre kind of strangereal society, bits of Roman, bits of Renaissance, bits of futurism, bits of reconquista, bits of the crusades and others. It's fairly unique and it's an interesting aesthetic.
>>97648401My other option would beChaplainCaptain in Gravis Armor5x Intercessors5x Helblasters3x Bladeguard Veterans3x EradicatorsAlso exactly 500 points. Would that be the better list for learning the ropes?
>>97648444Tyranids aren't evil, they're just hungry.
>xenos>evilJust a bit hungry innit bruv
>>97648426Then justify this
>>97648444Not anymore, with the fleshing out of Primarch lore and their personal character arcs we are now entering the redemption phase of 40k and the indomitable will of man will be on full display as they conquer the universe and have fun along the way.
>>97648461>Tau land on foreign owned planet>Are warned they're trespassing and they should leave>Instead of leaving they preach the Greater Good while preparing military forcesEldar are defending their land from hostile foreign invaders.
>>97648445Thats another thing I like about the Imperium, how diverse it is and how its basically a giant sandbox for you to make stuff up in. Which makes sense, the ultimate purpose for it is to be background fluff for /yourdudes/ after all, even if a lot of people forget that these days.
>>97648470Roboute is literally pushing the Imperium from feudalism to fascism with his 500 worlds project.
>>976484709 years of you retards repeating this shit.
>>97648470MY FATHERROBOBANTO GULLIMANO
>>97648459>xenos>evilJust lookin’ for a propa scrap bruv
>>97648470A significant amount of Guilliman's 40k lore is about him being hindered by the backwardness and ignorance of the Imperium.
I'm no writer, but I feel like having the Emperor not be an actual person that exists, but more a concept that may or may not have existed, is a far more intruiging and darker set up
Should big basing details (eg; stone steps or a pathway) stop at the edge of the top of the base, or the edge of the bottom?
>>97648480I've always found it ironic how the shift from space feudal oligarchy to the closest thing in the setting to actual space fascism (rule by a superhuman warrior elite which justifies their rule by the fact that they are superhuman) is shown as an unambiguously good thing.
The Emperor is just the One PieceIt's not real
>>97648506>closest thing in the setting to actual space fascism (rule by a superhuman warrior elite which justifies their rule by the fact that they are superhuman) Tau?
>>97647948>EC WDP +10Still running 3. The problem is half the roster is dogshit, not that the top 3 units are too good.
>>97648377>barabtoshell yeah, i picked up his new MG and i'm keen to get him built.
>>97648480Good >>97648484And we’re being proven right
>>97648510The One Piece will literally be real, trust GODaMy theory is that it'll be the last piece to activate the ultimate weapons, and destroy Marijoa and the Red Line, merging all the seas into one, fulfilling Luffys untold dream
>>97648515The T'au are communists, not fash.
>>97648520yada yada you've done this routine before
>>97648500any idea YOU have will always be more interesting than any possible execution, and this will continue to be a problem warhammer has.
>>97648526I have yet to see a communist or socialist regime that isn't functionally fascist.
>>97648502This cork feature is the specific thing I'm asking about. I'm currently planning to sand it down to be flush with the edge of the top of the base, but I'm also having second thoughts. Should I redo the cork steps?
on the topic of satire where did this idea come from that 40k was made to specifically satirise fascism? If its a satire of anything its 70s and 80s science fiction and fantasy.
>>97648560That's a rhetorical sandbag used purely to try and stop the usual terminal complainers from trying to cancel GW.
According to this interview from Dan Abnett, quoted from thsi random reddit post I after I googled for 2 nanoseconds, it was a general satire of Thatcherism>but how so? how is 40k and judge dredd satirising thatchers reign?Beats me, I'm not a bri'ish geeza
>>97647797>What's an old rule from previous editions you have fond memories of?my chaos dreadnought going apeshit and killing my own dudes
has the collage theme been confirmed yet, if it's big stick do you think this will be big enough?
How valid is an imperial soup army with imperial agents these days? I just really like making weird little characters. I dont really want to paint 60 guys in uniform, or a bunch of tanks, I want to paint a huge pile of weird little characters and funny robots.
>>97647948>+10 despoiler>When the despoiler is the only questoris chassis worth taking in Chaos KnightsThat's so retarded I'd believe it. 36 6/2/2 attacks is good, dont get me wrong, but the issue in spiky knights isn't that despoilers are too good, its that everything else is kind of mediocre. I fucking love Rampagers but they're so easily screened from touching what they want to crash into you're almost better off parking it behind a building so the threat of them coming out is more dangerous than actually doing so. Lancers somehow aren't even the best melee Cerastus if you do the math. The Atropos laser cutter is somehow better at melee than the GIGANTIC FUCKING ROCKET LANCE THE LENGTH OF A LAND RAIDER.So whats the best plan? Parking 3 despoilers at various points across the map and hoping you get carried by Lethal Hit spam while nurglings and beasts of nurgle create a detroit parking lot in the middle. And the worst part is it isn't even an effective plan since the faction is sitting at like a 40% winrate.
>>97647882If genestealer hybrids had hair, I'd be totally locked in.If Votan weren't manlets, I'd take them seriously.
>>97648621woah king crimson reference
>>97648502>>97648549For minis being used on the tabletop, the top always. Looks weird when basing overhangs. If you're making it with the express intent of it going into a diorama and living 99% of it's life there (but you've got it on a base and not glued directly into the diorama just in case you want to play with it, or want to take it out for closer viewing), then you might consider lining the basing up with the bottom edge to make it look as seamless as possible with the rest of the diorama.
>>97648606Not currently viable in-game, but extremely based as a hobbying project.
>>97648606According to the one IA player who cried salty bitch tears for several threads straight until he finally clued in that nobody else gave a shit, they're not great. If you only care for making cool weird guys though and don't necessarily desire winning on the tabletop then just do it anyway
>>97648549Could you perhaps use modelling clay to make a ring around the base that aligns the top with the bottom?
>>97648606I think your best bet would actually be a genestealer cults counts as army for an inq28 army. Lots of human sized specialist characters or all different kinds. Your cool psyker kitbash can be a Benefictus instead of some chump in an inquistion acolytes unit. Your cool gunslinger can be a kelermoprh, and so on. You'd just need to replace anything genestealy with mechanical. You even get to soup in guard vehicles if you want to. Only thing that option is missing that you might want is knights or a good unit to proxy sisters or space marines for.
>>97648237>Common Age of GODmar cultural victory.>Karl Franz mini outlived all first batch of sigmarines
>>97648527I accept your concession
>>97648633That makes sense. As a "playable diorama" goes I'm more interested in the "playable" part looking right. Besides, all the other bases will have trenches around them, and if I'm particularly bothered by the gap with the steps I could just make the steps on the diorama a multi-part thing.>>97648642I honestly wouldn't think so. Even assuming I sculpted the clay ring to be extra-smooth, I think it'd still make the base look clunky beside other minis on the tabletop.
>>97648659>franzYeah celestant prime is still a model, could use a refresh though.
Iron Warriors vs the ADmech for control of the Cadian Gate and sector soon.Any guesses who is going to win?
>>97648662dilate
>>97648668The current TOW Imperial Griffon model *is* the Karl Franz mini and was in AoS until the CoS refresh...>>97648677Iron Warriors mayhaps?
>>97648677Iron warriors moves the story forward and that's gw's New Thing, and iron warriors are one of the few bad guys that's actually allowed to win sometimes.
>>97648686Yeah but you aren’t allowed to build him as Karl.
>>97648692Who and/or what stops me?
>>97648689>moves the story forwardnothing has moved forward since the great rift formation, it's just "here's a place to set your battles" that GW moves on from without really resolving completely.
>>97648694You wouldn’t be powerful enough to even clip it off.
>>97648689The last two books (500 Worlds and Maelstrom) told small-time stories that didn't advance the setting.Maybe GW is hitting the brakes on advancing the lore
>>97648707
Any advice on how to name various Skitarii cohorts? Common words for the army or themes I can hone in on?
>>97648706The Lion returns.Wyrmwood.The Fourth Tyrannic WarOctarius wrapping up.Nachmund falls.etc.
>>97648677Stalemate, until 2 or 3 books later and IW won. Perturabo model releases.
>>97648560It's just a shield for people who are too pussy to admit that it's cool and fun.Enjoying fiction is not an endorsement of the real world things that fiction represents. But retards do not understand this because they are retards and western culture is gayer than a gas station glory hole.A Catholic/Orthodox-themed authoritarian regime that glorifies the destruction of the Other is really cool when you don't actually have to deal with the messy consequences. That's what fiction is for. Unintelligent people have a very tough time separating themselves from the things they consume. They can't understand why they enjoy it, but they do, so they make up convenient excuses instead of facing themselves or facing reticule from other, equally unintelligent individuals. Just stop caring what retards think and disregard their opinions. Nothing bad will happen if you do. It's all hot air at the end of the day. So with if some Twitter tranny thinks you're a fascist for painting plastic soldier men? Them them to kill themselves and continue your day.
>>97648341Very nice. It’s fun painting techies sometimes. If admech and Votann weren’t so expensive I might look into them as a proper third army.
oh my media literacy...
It's the same thing as people claiming a show is a "deconstruction" of a genre, because they can't admit they made massive sweeping incorrect generalisationsSee mecha, see Monogatari
>>97648741Media literacy is a buzzword to shame people for not making everything unfunny "self-aware" marvelslop
>>97648723>Wyrmwood>The Fourth Tyrannic War>Octarius wrapping up>Nachmund falls>>moves on from without really resolving completelyand the Lion has done nothing but justify the Inner Circle Companions models.
>>97648692>Yeah but you aren’t allowed to build him as Karl.Because..?
Gulliman returning and all that is kinda lame, but I actually like the great rift idea and it's part of my head canon that excludes primaris and primach slop.
>>97648407You can be good but also not nice. Well meaning but bereft of kindness.I wish they could also be good and also ugly, but the last time they did Ugly Good was the 90s probably.If everyone else is worse, then you are good by comparison regardless of how ugly cruel or harsh you may be.
>>97648392Craftworld suffer from being effectively a bunch of self-interested assholes. You make a deal with them and the others will go "that was only with them" and they'll start lobbing shuirkens like weebs at you. Eldrad does try, but it seems like he suffers from being a retarded elf at times.Morally good faction is techincally the Imperium because they are the only faction that is actually hurting Chaos. The Emperor pissing on Nurgle's Garden quite literally is the most morally good thing that has happened in millennia in 40k. He might've killed those Farseers that got turned into trees. Is the Imperium a giant byzantine piece of shit full of suffering? Yes! Are they morally good? You know how many xenos or retards worship Chaos gods because the Eldar murder fucked their way into destablizing the warp?Most Evil faction is Dark Eldar followed by the Tau. The Tau are just retards, who aren't aware of how retarded they are. The Tau don't actually have the Imperium's whole "we have some justification for being monsterous because AB&C followed by the the Emperor being unresponsive and the Primarchs going missing causing cultural stagnation.">>97648407It's more that the Imperium is the only faction that isn't A) Immortal dickheads who fucked the warp to begin with and have no solutions B) things that exist to fight or eat C) Demons who want to assrape everybody D) Irrelevant faction that has no solution for the Warp and GW has never actually looked into them properly.Imperium does have a solution. Big E is gonna munch on some souls, nap, and then kill the Chaos Gods.
I can't decide if I want to start a Red Corsair army, Corsair heavy/themed Eldar or Iron Warriors. Please help me...I love pirates and I love Iron Warriors.
>>97648780Can't you just mix and match Red Corsairs and Iron Warriors shit in CSM
>>97648775You don't have to be so self-conscious about enjoying the plot anon. /tg/ was created by Primarch lovers and inventors of the Reasonable Marines.
>>97648488>hindered by the backwardness and ignorance of the ImperiumThat he is finally fixing
>>97648537>The Soviet union did, eventually, crack.
>>97648781Maybe, probably but I would like to commit to one paint scheme rather than making Silver Corsa.. huh...
>>97648780>Corsair heavy/themed EldarCorsairs are for if you really want to go ham and cheese mixing kits and bits between craftworld, corsairs, and dark eldar.
>>97648791>>97648780Make a warband of Iron Warriors that function as an independent piratical raiding force, using some red corsairs models and rules. That is how most Iron Warriors function anyways, not everyone still marches behind Perturabo's command as a legion.
>>97648779>Most Evil faction is Dark Eldar followed by the Tau. The Tau are just retards, who aren't aware of how retarded they are. The Tau don't actually have the Imperium's whole "we have some justification for being monsterous because AB&C followed by the the Emperor being unresponsive and the Primarchs going missing causing cultural stagnation."A running theme/joke with the T'au is that they are regularily horrified by the evil shit that the Imperium does.The T'au are in no way as evil as the Imperium. Almost everything the Imperium does morally offends hem.
>>97648677IW will win after the adepticon perterabo reveal and then get will be stopped by dorn (christmas reveal)
>>97648776If/When they refresh his model the skull still needs to be exposed.
I hate "epic heroes"
>>97648812Dorn is dead.
>>97648799Yeah this is what I was thinking about. Make an Eldar army but mix it all up with corsair and dark eldar kits.>>97648808This could work. Thank you.>>97648812Is it "confirmed" that he is coming back? When is Adepticon?
>>97648821So were Lion and Guilliman, didn't slow them up much
>>97648824>all up with corsair and dark eldar kits.go for it then, go absolutely bonkers.
>>97648812If anything, GW didn't care about primarch's established feud. It could be anyone.
What's the difference between these two products?
Most chapters have dreadnoughts that have fought for the Emperor longer than any of the primarchs ever did.
>>97648838more mini's and terrain, you can just look at the contents on the warhammer site.
>>97648731>Enjoying fiction is not an endorsement of the real world things that fiction representsIt is, though. You can dislike something you are forced to agree with, but you cannot like something you disagree with. Thus, liking is an agreement.>if some Twitter tranny thinks you're a fascist for painting plastic soldier men? Them them to kill themselves and continue your day.See? You yourself benefit from the virtues of closing your heart to The Others.
>>97648407I've met guys who are wierdly invested in space marines being GOOD HEROIC guys and who get upset when you remind them that half the campaign badges decorating an ultramarine veteran are called "The ____ Genocide", but generally, yea, people like them because they're interesting and the human faction.I've met a few people that even try to claim chaos are the good guys, so I think trying to explain your side as somehow justified is just wired into some retarded niggas.
>>97648842>dreadnoughtsanyone with more than 2 bonding studs fought longer than the primarchs
>>97648842I've worked it out anon, you see any time you see a discrepency with the lore, or something that doesn't make sense, well, that's just part of the satireWith this defense, everything makes sense and GW are perfect
>>97648858>Titus nearly has more practical experience than GuillimanGrim. Dark, even.
>>97647899you can do oil washes then simply wipe off anything not in the recesses
>>97648810Being xenos makes them morally wrong, though, regardless and in spite of being kinder to humans than actual Imperial authorities.
>>97648833This looks so fucking cool.
>>97648872>aliens have the same moral framework as humansSis your media literacy?
>>97648780Why not do a shattered Grand Battery of Iron Warriors who defected to the Red Corsairs? Best of both worlds.
>>97648842Dreadnoughts? Fucking Ciaphas Cain served the Emperor longer than some of the Primarchs did.
So I've been getting back into playing some 40k after spending the last few years (since 8th ed really) just playing Heresy. What's up with people doggedly adhering to tournament terrain setups? I feel like you can barely set up a casual, fun game without people wanting to break out their terrain templates and approved layout charts. So far, it's my main gripe with the state of the game. I understand wanting to keep things balanced, but it's a bit much.
>>97648818I hope so, but I'm afraid the Good guys must be beautiful and handsome.Let good be ugly yet virtuous because of their acts. Let evil be beautiful yet despicable because of their deeds.There is no heroism in rejecting evil when it's evidently ugly.
>>97648833Were you the grey knights guy
>>97648810The Tau often do similar shit, but without any of the excuses of the Imperium. The real issue I have with them is that they aren't fully developed enough after 20 fucking years to actually integrate into the setting. They have potential to do shit that alludes to why the Emperor did shit a certain way without outright saying it. Imperium does corpse starch for Necromunda regularly and bad guard regiments. The Tau do it everywhere and literally recycle the dead to the Kroot. The Imperium mostly clones servators (but reserves it as a punishment) because AI can get hacked by Chaos, Tau brainrape people because they point out the Tau are stupid. Big E was an internet athiest because he knew that Gods in 40k are bound by their believers, the Tau are unironic fedora tippers. The Imperium has crushing disparity, the Tau give out Nintendo switches for cutting your balls off and has Canadian Healthcare. >>97648461Tau are literal cattle that are pre-programmed to obey the farts of the highest caste (canon). An Eldar automatically has a better claim for that reason alone
>>97648877eldar is underrated as a kitbashing army, I think because craftworlds is traditionally so rigid and people aren't used to the potential of the newer kits and neither eldar list really encourages it. They're probably unironically in the top five though.
Big e being a reddit atheism crusader and dawkins himself calling it gay and retarded has to be the single lamest retcon of all time.
>>97648842>>97648858>>97648869>>97648886GW can't into numbers. The heresy makes more sense if you multiply almost every number by x10.That way the Crusade was two thousand years and the heresy lasted 80, which is enough time for generations to be born and grow old inheriting a fight for a cause they never knew, while the original guys weep at how much has been lost and forgotten.Warhammer.
>>97648898If they didn't want me to be evil, they shouldn't have made mk7 power armor evil niggas only.
>>97648677>Cadian Gatewasn't that blown up already?
I have read the core rulebook but i still have no idea what i am doing as far as making an army. So i need to pick 1 codex and i can use basically any units from that as long as i have enough points right? Mixed armies are not allowed. I.e. guardsmen with a squad of space marines. Or like if i want to play death watch i would use the imperial agents codex so i couldnt have a death watch tech marine or dreadnought. Am i severally misunderstanding how it works?
>>97648877Now that basically all of the Eldar models have flat shoulder joints you can just stick everyone's arms everywhere, it's great. Stick corsair swords and pistols on swooping hawks and scourges to make the flying guys, give incubi new heads, fusions guns, and make them into fire dragons. The vagaries of corsairs is just the perfect excuse to do whatever you want with the range, and the new build-a-commander rules are even better because for eldar they're perfect. Want a flying outcast with a missile launcher? Want a teleporting guy with a brace of pistols and a shuriken cannon that's also a glaive? No problem. Opponent won't let you use a custom commander? Okay, you're autarch is now Yriel because he gets a helmet that turns him into a generic model without even cutting off anything.
>>97648890because all of the rules and points are based around tournament results. so why would you not play on the format that the game is balanced around?
how come IG is the only faction to have had its homeworld equivalent blown up. It seems like Ultramar, Baal, and the Tau get attacked all the time but nothing ever actually happens to them long term
>>97648905?
>>97648938>dice rolling>tournamentLOLOnly perfect information games can remotely be considered competitive
>>97648921Broken but not fully destroyed. The fortress worlds around the Cadian system endure to this day against ceaseless waves of heretics and daemons.
>>97648912I like the concept that he was more terrified because even he doesn't fully understand how the warp reflects belief/ actually did not want to be called a god because he was autistic. The issue is that Sci-Fi writers are actual retards since the 80s. Most of them got into French philosophy or something they thought sounded pretentious and never actually looked at anything.Heinlein is pretty cool for being autistic about natural rights and disagreeing with the Enlightenment (Rosseau is a bitch, Samuel Johnson is my nigga) in a way that I can disagree with but understand.
>>97648915Fully agreed, the crusade being 200 years makes fuck all sense for the scale and stability of the imperium that resulted. How did they solidify such an enduring identity in a bunch of completely disparate cultures that have been diverging for literally 10k years? Not to mention it's just logistically impossible. That means each legion was, very roughly, conquering a planet every other day for 200 years straight. Having the crusade being a major era of the imperium rather than just it's very brief initial start up phase also would make the way every fucking thing has to be rooted in the heresy with the sole exception of the sisters of battle a lot less trite and retarded.
>>97648908>They have potential to do shit that alludes to why the Emperor did shit a certain way without outright saying it.they do have the "and then one day the Ethereals showed up and unified the empire" thing as well. just instead of doing it by diplomacy and the sword, they did it by mind controlling everyone. in some ways the Ethereals are just as bad as Big E but with better propaganda
>>97648942Guard and Mechanicus exist to take Ls so that the Space Marines don't have to. That way GW can say the Imperium loses on occasion too while the Space Marines remain undefeated and unharmed.
They really need to let SM get fucked, it's just Marvel tier bullshit if they're always winning
So assuming the Iron Warriors get a battleforce with the Defiler, new character, and legionaries with the upgrade sprue, what else will they add to fill out the box?Better not be a fucking rhino I swear to god.
>>97648931You're pretty much right, you get units from one book, although a lot of books have specific exceptions that say "by the way, you can specifically use a unit from another book"Imperial agents are a good example, you're not REALLY meant to play them as their own army, they have a rule that lets you add one or two units from their book to another imperium book, so you can add some death watch models to your imperial guard or whatever.
>>97648942All Imperial factions besides Marines (sans deathwatch) and to a lesser extent modern Sisters exist to job to stop Xenos and Chaos players from getting too demoralized
>>97648942Cadia getting blown up is the only thing that has ever really happened, and it also didn't really matter because cadian culture has spread to 11 billion trillion planets
>>97648942Because their homeworld was the one keeping chaos stuck in the jobber zone and GW wanted people to take the black crusades more seriously
>>97648943No. You’re not him. He used a saturine for his baby carrier. You don’t deserve his Mexican filter. Nice minis tho.
>>97648966no way they put all four new kits in the same box, probably going to be some dogshit like the oblit+venom crawler sprue instead of mutilators.
>>97648908>The Tau do it everywhere and literally recycle the dead to the Kroot.The T'au burn their dead or give them space burials by ejecting them out of airlocks.Kroot eat dead warriors as payment. The T'au look the other way. It's not something regular.>Tau brainrape people because they point out the Tau are stupid.Going by the Elemental Council novel, Brainwashing is reserved for high-end criminals and rebels. It's not something universal. It's not like the Imperial hypnoconditioning that every damn officer has to get.>Big E was an internet athiest because he knew that Gods in 40k are bound by their believersActually, the Emperor truly hated religion for personal reasons other than its empowering Chaos.>or cutting your balls off and has Canadian Healthcare.Human populations are noted to increase after the Tau takeover of Imperial worlds...This suggests that the Imperials are suppressing reproduction.
>Release new models >Every appearance in their first book is them being massacred without effort by the other faction being released What is this marketing strategy called?
Female custodes? What's next, a femaleceptor?
>>97648880Humans have the framework of humans. Do not blame the alien for being inhuman – they cannot help their nature. But kill traitors before outsiders. They chose being wrong.I would post the picture of a human helper hung from a lamppost with "Betrayed his race" around his neck discovered by a Tau fire warrior, but I just can't find it in Google, so I leave the pertinent codex quote.>The alien and the renegade are the vagaries of the galaxy incarnate. What can we truly know or would want to of their ways or motivations? They are to us as the rabid wolf at the closed door that knows not even its own mind. Be that door. Be the simplicity of the steadfast and unchanging: the barrier between what is known and the unknowable. Let the Imperium of Man realise its manifold destiny within while without its mindless foes dash themselves against the constancy of our adamantium. In such uniformity of practice and purpose lies the perpetuity of mankind.
>>97648915Once you start taking it too seriously it breaks of course, but you also get to enjoy other implications. 10,000 years is not that much time celestially-speaking, I've always liked the thought of a audio-archeologist that flies around the Imperium trying to capture ancient vox or radio broadcasts from old battlefields or historical events. Eldar craftworlds aren't moving anywhere close to light speed because of relativity, so even after 10,000 years they've barely moved anywhere from their original starting point relative. At whatever regular speeds they'd be traveling at a craftworld would probably have only passed through a couple of star systems so they'd be able to calculate their original worlds pretty easily after that.
>>97648952The best justification I can think of is that he fully understood how belief effects the warp, and didn't want his will and soul being consumed by the egregore being created in his image.
>>97648961Sorry heckin’ Titus and friends will probably solo Fulgrim in SM3
>>97648966I’d say Obliterator’s because it’d be too good of a box to have the new Defiler and the new Mutilators. It’d also highlight the IW’s 40k version since apparently they’re known to have those big dudes,
>>97648978Thank you
>>97648955The Etherals are annoy me because either they mind control via farts or are psykers. If it's farts than the Tyranids shouldn't even need genestealers, just launch a spore full of feel good farts. If they are psykers and the Tau assimilate psykers, they should be getting chowed by chaos gods. I don't hate the Tau for not being grim dark enough. I hate how little they interact with the setting or bend the rules of the setting. They exist so redditors/ Star Trek fans who hate DS9 can have a good guy faction. Big E at least is literallly just a psyker who likely tried the puppet master shit and it's alluded that the Imperium is him trying to keep humanity from getting Chaos'd before humans can fully develop into psychics.
>>97648996I like that audio idea, stealing this for my gulb shitto home brew knock off calixis sector I'm working on with my buddies
>>97649005>alludedOutright stated in HH novels
>>97648996Craftworlds also have the webway, even with most of it invaded by Chaos it’s a decent way to get around
I thought the emperor’s plan was to ascend to (chaos?) godhood himself and btfo the other chaos gods thus saving humanity
My problem with tau is they only exist in one tiny corner of the galaxy and there's always some tau nigga around, so you have to set every single crusade group in the ultima segmentum or come up with some tortured reason why the local faggot is allowed to be included.
>>97648986The Tau books literally ignore shit because the GW can't decide if Tau are genuine retards or malicious retards. They have both confirmed and denied from Tau perspectives that the Tau sterilize humans en mass and process them en mass. Water Caste also lies, but also doesn't according to GW.Tau are poorly written.
>>97649015A craftworld is too big to go into the webway, I'm sure that's been mentioned somewhere.
>>97649005You do know that there exist powers in the galaxy outside the Warp, right?Erda's power.Faith Powers.The Powers of Fenris.The EnunciaAlso, Ethereal powers (invocations of elements) work on non-T'au.
>>97648998NTA, I'm more in the camp that if he'd encouraged or enforced it he would have gotten rote recitation but not real true faith, so it was reverse psychology to eventually get enough of that true faith to matter.
>>97649025The sterilization thing came from a 3rd party video game
>>97649015as I understood, craftworlds have webway gates, but themselves only travel at sublight through realspace.
>>97649013If you make any money off of it you owe me
>>97649027If cumrag can fit then a craft world should be able to fit
>>97649031If that the case he would have been clapping his hands like a down syndrome child when lorgar got it, instead of blowing him up
>>97648968Oh cool. I will have to look into it more carefully then, thanks for the example.Flipping through imperial agents it really felt like a mish mash of unrelated units. Makes sense that its like "add some of these guys to your REAL army".My friend had a tyrannid army and has been in the hobby way longer. My stupid larp idea was to get some guardsmen and have a deathwatch squad as support. Its a fun little story in my head about the guard getting overrun by xenos and the deathwatch trying to contain them. I expect to lose every game i play against him so i might as well have a good backstory to cope.
>>97649030>pretending to be retardedSo they drug up the dalits?
>>97649038That's like saying because houston texas is part of the american highway system, you should be able to drive a 23 story high rise appartment on I25
>>97649048Erebus has a bit with Erda where he senses that her power is not from the Warp but from another source.
>>97649045That's a very good choice in my opinion, space marines look coolest next to normal human friends. I use deathwatch rules to include a squad of my own made up space marine chapter in my guard army.
>>97649038I think commerce-rag was built inside the webway rather than being teleported into it.
>>97649042I'm aware this is cope, but I think lorgar was either going too hard too early and threatening to spoil things, or was supposed to continue the Emperor worship after getting tested and be the stronger in his faith for it. The idea is that a persecuted (new)religion inspires true faith through struggle and an officially prescribed (new)religion inspires rote recitation without faith, or resentment.
>>97648749Huh? Quite the opposite
>>97649030>Horus heresy retardation>Literally just the warp>in universe space wolf copium >abnetverse (cool though, I like ravenor but it isn't really 40k)
>>97649050It is theoretically possible to drive a 23 story high rise around, checkmate atheist
>>97649055Erda is the worst part of the Heresy and her defining part is having a woman moment. You are defending poor writing with more poor writing. Also, I'm pretty sure that entire fucking thing was Erebus going "WHAT I DON'T HAVE TO SELL MY BUSSY TO THE DARK GODS!!! WOWIE ZOWIE!!!!"
>>97649045I always thought the fantasy of Imperial Agents was basically having an Inquisitor led army, which the Deathwatch are historically a part of under the Ordo Malleus. It generally wouldn’t make sense for too have a huge army.
>kept making fun of astra militarum>their armies are actually starting to look pretty cool to meSHIT
>>97648855>you cannot like something you disagree withWhat is this retardo take? I play devout Imperial cult characters in 40K RPGs all the time while personally disagreeing with the removal of individualism and more fascist ideology of the Imperium. It's an escape, I can play as a self righteous asshole in a fantasy universe where that belongs, and that's enjoyable because I never want to be that asshole IRL.People who think fantasy has to reflect IRL cannot picture the apple.
>>97649069Translator's note: he did, in fact, have to sell his bussy to the dark gods
>>97649080Despite GW’s best efforts Guard is kino
>>97649080the 30k russ kit has me tempted to finally take the plunge, if it's as much of an improvement over the old rhino kit as the deimos one is I might not be able to stop myself. The fugly old russ was the only thing stopping me.
>>97649030world spirits are warp powers "He was not free, and would never be. He doubted anyone or anything truly was. He rejected power, and yet it was thrust on him. His dream bothered him. He must know more, and that meant going deeper. A mortal mind could not look upon the warp as it truly was. An order must be imposed, a cypher through which the mysteries of eternity might be safely interpreted. Primus drew in his consciousness, preventing it from dilution in the raw soul stuff of the immaterium. From his own memories he forged a sub-realm he could traverse, a place of personal truths. The methods were common to psykers. Throughout history those with a connection to the otherworld sought to impose humanity upon it, lest it strip their humanity from them. The symbolism varied. The Fenrisians had their Underverse, the Blood Angels their angelic visions, the Navigators their zodiacal allegories, the astropaths their verses and obfuscatory imagery, but the goal was the same: the protection of the soul against the inimical gods of the warp, and the ability to look upon that which could not be looked upon."-Genefather
>>97648957Mechanicums seems to sneak a lot of wins, actually. The Prefectia post-Damocles crusade had everyone lose: AunVa actually died, space marines walked away empty-handed and depleted, the IG lost millions, as well as superheavies, and the ground commander was abandoned, and probably died in the fire. Because they Externinatus'd the planet they were fighting for. Knights also were forced to retreat, and Farsight had to flee.Meanwhile, the Mechanicus stole the Air Scrubbers and xenotech they coveted. It was they who supplied the torpedo that set the entire nebula ablaze. And in doing so, they successfully ended the Third Sphere Expansion.This in turn forced the Tau to rush their ftl drive project, which sent the fleet into the warp, where 3/4ths of them died. On live tv.Most importantly, this taught the 4th Sphere to be racist, causing the first actual threat of disunity among the Tau in millennia.All of this because AdMech wanted some Tau AC units.
>>97648890I'm in the same boat, I got into a beginners casual tournament after collecting a bunch of models. Every match layout and main objective is predetermined each round, I get it, but it made me already start to lose interest in learning because I appreciate the thematic and narrative type of games way more than the competitive side. After this tournament, I don't think I want to see another L shape rectangle ruin for a few months. Roping my gf into playing small skirmish games at home instead in hopes that it'll be more fun to learn and to have someone to play with.
I think having small warp capable ships is much better lore than the smallest warp ships being a kilometer wrong because it's better suited for the actual scale of 40k, which is like 40 guys per side.
>>97649081You okay what you wish you could be. It's like how dudes who play female characters are all LGBT, either open or in denial.
>>97648890People imagine they're "practicing for a tournement" at all times and for some reason reject legends, crusade, and casual play despite casual play being all anyone ever really does.
>>97649118>lore represents the tabletopother way around
>>97649057I hadnt considered being able to include your own OC chapter with those rules but thats cool you are allowed to. Im still very new so maybe a mixed army wouldnt be the best but mixing the factions together seems so cool and theyre all on the same side. Its not like im trying to include the tau with a mechanicus army>>97649078I thought the death watch was under ordo xenos and the grey knights were speciallized in fighting demons. I mean they all fall under the larger inquisiton umbrella right? Could i just make an all inquisition army? Some death watch guys, grey knights, sisters of battle, inquisitors ect. Theyre all in imperial agents. I guess the navy guys too. I didnt even know they existed before this evening.
>>9764911840k stands for "40 guys, one kilometer"
>>97649117>playing small skirmish games at homeOn that note I have a question for /40kg/: Are 500 point games really *that* bad in 10th?
>>97648424Agreed. I unironically think the Interim Coalition of Governance is immoral because it fails to institutionalize mandatory rape among the children.
>>97649122I just really really want to fuck a female pandaren bro
>>97649132It’s been awful since 6th edition.
Me sad no Chaos Xenos
>>97649118Tau Mantas could take short jumps in the warp and they're extremely tiny, it's possible.But something small like a frigate or destroyer might still only support a small strikeforce instead of needing a two click cruiser to dump a platoon of marines on a planet.
>>97649137But could I still have a decent time popping my game cherry at 500 points?
>>97649126Nearly all new players get models and base their play on Auspex Tactics these days. The guy who runs the local store can call his video releases by if he gets an uptick of calls asking if “X” kit is in stock
>>97649132500 points isn't necessarily bad for starting from the bottom in learning the game, but I wouldn't play anything below 1000 points. A 500 point cap restricts you too much in what you can play around with in a single game, at that point, you might as well play kill team since it would be more engaging at that small scale, in my humble opinion.
the peoeple who complain about preset map loadouts wern't around for the obligatory "what did the table look like" talks after any reported tabling in past editions
>>97649138Is it okay he's a dummy soccer jock?
>>97649122So is everyone who liked Game of Thrones now an absolute monarchist, you retarded faggot?
Why do you e-celeb fags assume everyone else knows who you're talking about? You retards literally don't think for yourselves
>>97649132The smaller the points size, the more 'swingy' the game. In practice, the first guy to have a good shooting phase wins.
>>97649130The rules are technically just for deathwatch, but no one is gonna shit themselves if your space marine allies are painted green or whatever instead of black. People don't care as long they can tell what things are supposed to be reasonably easily. I'd recommend picking whatever you think you'll have most fun painting. Unfortunately, while you technically can play imperial agents as their own army, it's utter dog shit. And not "oh it's weak, but you can still have fun!" kind of way, in a totally non functional, not really even playing the game kind of way, and really limited in what models you actually can use. Hopefully that will change some day, since that's my favorite kind of imperial army in theory.If you want to soup (mixing factions) and collect lots of imperial units, pick your favorite imperial faction as a base, and just collect lots of imperial agents on top of that. You can also add a knight or several little knights to any imperial army if you like those.
>>97649148I think he has single handedly ruined the culture around the game.
>>97649165I disagree, keeping the "meta" this dirty secret of the community just lead to the meta being this boogeyman you could accuse anyone of tapping into and thus having grounds to table them with equally swingy bullshit you chose not to use in any other game
>>97649122Simply not true and such an infantile normie take.
>>97649148I must confess, I have watched these videos, but not to find out what's meta, just to get a quick overview of what a unit I'm already interested in picking up could do.
>>97649150>>97649157I see. I find myself having a difficult time even thinking about collecting my way up to a thousand points for a singular army. Especially for the hordier armies where a lot of stuff looks cool but has an awful points-per-dollar ratio.
>>97649118In eisenhorn, there are several FTL capable ships with crews in the single digits, and while not outright stated, the fluff in blackstone fortresses references a lot of small ships, one of which was commandeered by two guys (it just doesn't explicitly mention them performing warp jumps) so you're free to accept that headcanon.
>>97649175Kill team exists and is a better game. 40k is kind of mid, but you play it because plastic men in large numbers are cool. Start with your favorite kill team and expand if you find the whole process of painting models and playing games fun.
>>97649165I agree only because I fucking hate his voice. Between him and Valrak, the 40K YouTuber space is fucking awful to try and interact with.
I was putting off playing Knights until I got better at painting, but should I just say fuck it and dive in?
>>97649175Putting together a full army is a fun hobby itself, not necessarily something you just have to get out of the way before you can start. Lots of people barely play, just paint and collect.But yeah 1k is still quite swingy and the game is balanced for 2k. It's normal to take over a year to get enough points painted for a game. You can use tabletop simulator to try the rules in the mean time if you want
>>97649186knights are actually one of the easiest things to paint since they're all big models with few tiny details or hard to reach areas.that is, of course, if you have an airbrush.
>TQRed Paint Job, +1 inch movementForce weapons killing outright if you rolled 6 to woundAny attack strength 2x target's toughness = instant kill if it hits2nd edition vehicle rules were cumbersome but quite fun, vehicles would go out of control and cause a cascade of bullshit if things were clumped together. 2nd edition Orks in general were a wild time. There was an Artillery gun called a Smasha that moved units around, the Shokk gun had two pages of rules, one of the psychic powers was literally Mork's (Or maybe even Gork's) mighty foot coming down and stomping a bitch. They kept some of that flavor and higher randomness through 3rd and 4th but I stopped playing right about when 5th came out and didn't pick it up again until 10th.
>>97649180When I asked about Kill Team at my LGS, I was told that a grand total of one guy "might play kill team."
>>97649186Yes. Knights are great for improving because you can paint them normally and then go back years later and add the freehand once you're more confident. Plus you can mess with the color scheme and call it personal heraldry/recognition if you want to just mix something up a bit.
>>97649175It's really not that daunting, some form of battleforce box (or splitting a starter with someone) gets you a good core lot of dudes and then you can easily embellish with units you like from there, and will hit 1k points quickly enough and then even 1.5 and be well on your way to 2k.
>>97647797>TQ
>>97649195Unfortunately common, 40k is GWs worst game unironically, but by far the most popular. Once you have a 40k army and if you're not autistic, you can usually get people playing the side games pretty easily, I've managed to get battle fleet gothic games, kill team, inquisitor, ect. by making friends with 40k and then bullying them into playing other better games in the setting with me.
>>97649190stippling is a good technique for large armor models if you're brooshless
Why didn't you tell me Chaos Space Marines were one of the most kino armies and mog normal marines so fucking hard
>>97649161That makes sense. I think a big draw for a lot of people is how creative and freeform you can get with how you decorate the minis. So as long as im not trying to disguise them as a different unit it should not be a problem. Thanks for the heads up about how they play. What makes them so bad if you dont mind explaining? Is it kind of what i said earlier about how they seem like all the miscellaneous guys thrown under one umbrella? It seems like the best thing for me right now is to just pick a normal army and then start adding in random guys as i get the chance. Imperial guard or a random space marine chapter. At least they will always be flexible enough and theyre both cool. I kind of like mechanicus as well but they go a bit too far away from regular guy/super regular guy to be my main set.
>>97648349Because they want to eat their Marineslop cake and have it too. They are trying to reconcile the Imperium being the described as the "cruelest and bloodiest regime imaginable" with the fact Space Marines are almost universally portrayed as heroic protagonists beating up bad guys. This is why Dark Eldar enjoyers are objectively superior: they are evil and they know it.
>>97649227I've been telling you this for years
>>97647809Ouch
>>97648966In a perfect world the box would be>New Warsmith>New Defiler>Mutilators>Legionaries + Upgrade Sprue>Chaos VindicatorIn reality it's probably going to have some shit like a maulerfiend.
>>97649246I'd be okay with a maulerfiend
>>97649220>40k is GWs worst game unironicallynah, TOW is
>>97649246remove the vindicator and add the venom crawler oblit sprue
>>97649231It's a bunch of misc guys under one umbrella, but also, all the same type of guy in gameplay terms, basic infantry. In a functional army, you have basic infantry, heavy vehicles, elite infantry, ect. Note you only have basic sisters of battle, not all the weird elite sisters for example. You only have transport vehicles, no actual fighting armor, and so on. >>97649257Tow is pretty fun after the level 4 nerf as long as you have a gentleman's agreement to avoid dragons.
>>97649267>gentleman's agreement to avoid dragons.if you have to gentlemans agreement a game, its bad
Slaneesh is definitely the most reddit god right
>>97649117>Join tournament>Surprised they use tournament rules to promote fair matches and skill expressionMaybe look for narrative events instead
>>97648890The real answer isn't because everyone is some wanna-be tournament WAACfag.People use these layouts because it's easy, quick and you don't need to spend an extra half hour negotiating about terrain placement only to end up with something that'll probably end up significantly favoring one army over another. It's simply the easy, thoughtless option that lets you go straight to the game you're actually there to play.
>>97649153Either that or a porn "enjoyer", yeah.
>>97649153Yes
I want to make knight pilot models when I get around to painting my knights, just for fun.
>>97649298>a porn "enjoyer", yeah.What. Is there even any porn for that series? Its not even particularly erotic.
>>97649271>Nurgle is a big obese man who doesn't shower>Tzeentch is patron god of insufferable know-it-allsNo
you think they still find a way to put corn into corpse starch
>>97649231Not that anon, but rules-wise Agents are seen as bad because their army rules are just guidelines on how to soup units together rather than just enhancing their gameplay. Sisters and Space Marines being souped together is neat, but Sisters without Miracle Dice and Space Marines without Oath of Moment aren’t nearly as powerful as they are in their home factions, but you’re largely paying the same price for those units points-wise.
>>97649311Not in depiction, but IRL fanbaseThe most obnoxious alphabet faggots love Slaneesh
Good morning, space wolves are gay
>>97649306That's the kind of fun 40k should have. When I finish my batch painting on my dwarfs I'm going to paint little details on the squads to mildly differentiate them with little backstories or bragging points. Thinking about those details or the fluff around the list building is what makes this special. I dunno I been drinking all day
>>97649315Probably, as much of a meme as corpse starch is, it could by it's nature only be like 2% of a world's diet at the absolute max.
>>97649318Do they?
>>97649329Still less gay than decalfag
Surely, they will bring back apocalypse boxes that cost only a smidgen more than battle-forces, right?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97649275Yeah, war games would almost always be asymmetrical if they tried to recreate war scenarios, but competitive play couldn’t really happen under those conditions due to seeking out fairness,
>>97649227Getting an army rule and soup rules is pretty neat.
>>97649329I think if you can paint well, political paint jobs are funny and you should use them to upset people, but if you can't paint for shit, it's just embarassing.
>>97649227>get to keep the actually cool marine units and designs>5 highly kitbashable armies (plus horus heresy)>multiple sub armies and ally options to branch into depending on tastesHonestly, no other army comes close if you're a kitbasher.
>cut out a different head to the one in the instruction bookletYeah I'm a kitbasher, what can I say
Retard here, I got a box of meganobz and wanted to do dual kill saws for all 3 but there’s only enough saws for one. Whats a good source to get additional bits?
>>97649355Ishallah my kin, all wyches will get their hijabs, even males
>>97649393H-hot
>>97648591I'm painting this guy next, can't wait.
>>97649275I think a lot of people either forget (or likely just weren't there) that older editions had player placed terrain as the standard and a good chunk of the time the game was decided by who won the roll off for deployment and got to pick the better half of the table. Today's setups aren't perfect by any stretch but they're much more fair in the sense that you won't just get shot off the board turn one by the local taufag who intentionally put nothing in the middle of the table.
How would they go about adding a Vampire Xenos faction?
>>97648606Sisters of battle, relying on arco flags (servitor kitbashes), santifiers (weird little characters), rhino chassis tanks that could belong to any imperial faction, battle suits and pentient engines for funny robots, and the sword and mace sisters could be crusaders. Add on a knight and maximize your agents, and you can probably get away with a miminal amount of actual sisters.
>>97649355>Rumors that Ogres are gonna get a refresh in AoS>Rumor also includes new legendary unit being a female Maneater>Rumor 11th edition is gonna be Orks instead of Dark EldarThe fuck is GW doing?
>>97649502orks need an update worse than deldar do
>>97649493Enslavers.
>>97649493That's just Dark Eldar, but if they really wanted to they could do Khrave or something.
When rumors and leaks of 11ed will start? Mechanicus & UK merge? Same for IW and CK?
>>97649493Khrave kill team. They should make a non-imperial agents codex full of one off weird units the samer way agents is, but accesible to non imperials.
>>97649507>That's just Dark EldarDark Eldar are Dark Elves on a Sci-Fi setting, like how Craftworld Eldar are High Elves in a Sci-Fi setting and Exodites are Wood Elves in a Sci-Fi setting.
>>97649505But Dark Eldar are missing half their roster? This is gonna be like how 10th Edition refreshed the Tyranids and only near the end did they refresh Craftworld Eldar.
>>97649329I like how the one in the tranny colours has the skull face plate.Really subtle. Nicely done.
>>97649527There aren't "rosters" anymore, there are plastic kits that come out. All that beastmaster shit is just going into the legends pile and is being replaces with a darkheart doommancer or whatever the fuck which is itself going to be legend's in 6 years
>>97649512>Mechanicus & UK mergeManchesterchanicus?
>GW censored Daughters of Khaine>Prepare for Wych Cults to look the exact same when Dark Eldar get refreshedIt's so fucking over
>>97649502Orks are the better launch box option.
>>97649538>darkheart doommanceYou mean the Veil of Darkness on a Psychomancer? That's necrons :^)
>>97649582lmfao
>rumors of Peterturbo coming back might be true I can't believe Peter is more likely to come back before Lorgar. Are you kidding me? Wordbearers haven't gotten anything despite being every where in lore.
We'll get chud outrage about men in wyches when they get refreshed won't we?(The current wych kit is 40% male bodies)
>>97649582Wyches already wear burkas though, not to mention like 40% of the models are dudes
>>97649601Most people see Dark Eldar and immediately think scantily clad redhead elf girls with big tits and ass.
>>97649601>>97649606>40% maleWhich is an improvement.
>>97649623gross but at least the female ones have bikinis
First part of the battleforce assembled, hoping I have enough light to prime them and the sorcerors after work tonight to get started on painting them
>nu Lelith is now more lewdly dressed than Witch Elveslmao
i thought... they looked like pic rel....
>>97649636She did, but then GW forced her to wear pants.
crazy how mods would rather the thread die than ban 1 guy
>>97649582>>Prepare for Wych Cults to look the exact same when Dark Eldar get refreshedDark Eldar wynches are already roided monstrocities
>>97649636if onlytfw when looking up this pic I notice wyches went from like €25 to €37,50 in a few years
>>97648677Just like with 500 Worlds and Maelstrom both sides will lose and both sides will win.
>>97649672fuk you I'm going to the aco thread to find some SoB /ss/ stuff
>>97648855>It is, thoughyou are a fucking moron
>>97649524This is an absurdly simplistic take to which no designer has to adhere to and didn't in 40k. Every faction is a mix of multiple influences and Dark Eldar take a lot from Vampires already, while at this same time many other sources.
Why do so many feel the need to discuss aos in here
>>97649601nobody likes male wyches alreadymaking all wyches female would be better, yes
>>97649675Wrong kind of ss decals, anon.
Genuinely curious... Are GW stores even profitable? I always see them in ritzy places where I assume the rent would be astronomical. Do they actually help push people into the hobby and all that? Part of me just feels like it'd be better for everyone if they stocked kits in other places, closed all their stores and lowered the price of everything.
>>97649675>jacking off to little boysGay.
>>97649524This is why they are straight up lamer than HE and DE?
>>97649318Well its like.. They SHOULD like that faction, its practically made for them, but seems they want every other faction instead.
>>97649699https://frvr.com/blog/news/warhammer-veteran-jervis-johnson-says-physical-stores-teaching-fans-makes-up-most-of-games-workshops-marketing-as-theyre-seen-as-a-hugely-important-part-of-the-structure-of-the-company/Physical stores are expensive, but getting people into hobby probably pays off in the long term.
>>97648855real life lesbians are cringe; in fiction /u/ is fun.real life costumed vigilantiism is stupid; in fiction batman is cool.real life nukes are not a good thing; in fiction, more and more destruction is entertaining.do we need to contact your handler or something for saying this weird shit and enjoying 40k?
>>97649699Some are. A lot are not. It's kind of sad that in the early 00s, the GW stores in my town all had really prominent positions in big malls, then in the late 00s they all got pushed out and shoved into out of the way tiny little hole in the walls. There was one smack bang in the middle of the CBD which was huge, had really awesome atmospheric lighting and room for multiple big tables. My friend and I would go there when I was in high school. Then at some point it got moved to this tiny little place you had to duck through like 3 different tiny little alleyways to find and it didn't even have room for 1 game table.The closest GW store to me now is literally attached to a petrol station.
>>97649524Dark Eldar are>Sci-Fi Warhammer dark elves (who are pretty different to darke lves from other fantasy settings)>Sci-fi cyber punk, in terms of being more technologically advanced than the average cyber punk setting>Vampires>Cenobites/Hellraider beings>Pirates>Mafia family>Brutal cartel>Cooperate weapons manufactures>faeNot to mention their specific troops include>Mad scientists >Gladiators >Frankensteins>Bikies>Halfbird people (some have bat wings)And probably more I'm not listing. They have a lot going on in their theming
>>97649601Chuds never care about eldar lmao, wokes too, before 2024 troonification by mike brooks
>>97649726They also have Hutt influence in particular, including use of Alien mercenaries and those shipsAs for Vampire influence, newest codex mentioned sort of Vargheists, Dark Eldar who became more animalistic monsters due to going mad from starvation
>>97649742Oh shit I never noticed their ships hull was star wars inspired. >use of Alien mercenariesI'm not saying GW guys didn't get the idea of Jabbas Palace for that, but its a sci-fi setting have alien mercs isn't a hard idea to have independently.>Dark Eldar who became more animalistic monsters due to going mad from starvationI read that as them being more zombie like, as in tearing you apart and eating you alive with their bare hands if they catch you, more than super buff monstrous flying vampire beasts like what Vargheists are in fantasy
>>97649636Anglos are literally incapable of representing beauty or cool mechs
>>97649719>real life lesbians are cringewrong. i hang out with mostly lesbians irl and its always a fun timet. lesbian
>>97649772ew, fucking gross, dude
>>97649772Go dox yourself again, fag.
was big E really that big?
>>97649742Deldar ships and old eldar wave serpent serpent were inspirated by greekish trireme
>>97649772Same
>>97649793i got banned for saying her onlyfans wasn't worth the money.
>>97649793He varied in size, race, sex and clothing depending on who viewed him.
>>97649799based sisters of battle enjoyer
>>97649802lmao, here or on r*ddit? Not gonna lie though, advertising her porn to warhammer nerds which tend to not be neet poorfags is pretty smart
>we can't add vampire counts, we already have dark eldar >we can't add skaven, we already have dark Eldar>we can't add chaos eldar, we already have dark eldar >we can't add xenos mercenaries, we already have dark eldar >we can't add cool evil dark elf sorceror kings and seductive elf enchantresses, we already have dark eldar who are scared of psychic powersWe barely fucking have dark eldar as a faction anymore and I'm starting to think they are taking away more than they add to the setting and just need to go
Vyper or Starfang?Do I just paint it the color of my main craftworld, magnetize the weapons and just say it's the starfang?
>>97649864>skavenImperium already exist and well-represented, anon
>>97649864>>we can't add skaven, we already have Imperiumfix
>>97649864>we can't add skavengood, I hate furfaggots with a burning passion. I don't want them at all
What are you guys working on?Been trying out to add templar tabards on terminators.Seems to be working well, will now buy bits for the other termis.
>>97649939sternguard vets
>>97649941those look like incursors
>>97649941>sternguard vetsNope.
>>97649952its a mix of 5 infiltrators 1 assassin morvan and greyfax + 1 sternguard sgt
>>97649939Going to finish obiwan and then kitbash a jump pack canoness with neural whips
>>97649968so you're working on 1 sternguard vet
>>97649864>I'm starting to think they are taking away more than they add to the setting and just need to goSomeone gets it finally.
>>97649939Starting out on my skorpekh lord
>>97649699The stores exist to help gramgram buying for little timmy at christmas
Man, primaris models look so fucking bad for so many different reasons>Inceptors in general>ATV looks like fucking 40k Mario Kart>suit with the roll cage just looks like a worse dreadnought>aggressors are just terminators but stupid>phobos armor units have chicken legs>jump packs didn't need those gay little flaps>grav tanks just look like they really really really want the franchise to be Star Wars>retarded knee flanges in general>MK X helmets are downgrades from the iconic angry face grate>overall aesthetic just leans harder and harder into "heroic" space opera trash>will never buy the models that actually look good because autism prevents me from having HQs that are just inexplicably taller than my firstborns
>>97649864>no i want even more model ranges that will never get properly supported among the imperialslop!
>>97649939Slowly finishing up these bikes
>>97648659>>Karl Franz mini outlived all first batch of sigmarinesNot so fast! I'm willing to bet they'll refresh him either at the end of 4th or the start of 5th though
>>97649699It's their least profitable segment but is profitable A lot of their stores in the UK are cupboards with one staff member, and seem to move every few years chasing cheaper rents. Cost of production and distribution are really low compared to retail prices. The main business is selling to trade at >50% discounts.
>>97649992okay boomer
>>97649941>Them moldlinesPLEASE tell me you're fixing those
>>97649992Trvth Nvke
What do stores pay GW for a kit? How much profit do they make off selling a $100 for $80 for example?
>>97649722The one in my city is small as fuck and barely has enough room for a demo table, but it is located in pretty prime shopping real estate in the city centre and gets a good amount of customers, even a surprising amount of randos who don't know anything about a "warhammer" but are just curious.Rent's gotta be astronomicsl though, student city so housing market is fucked.
i own some all the plastic space marines since.first born, og HH plastic, nuHH, primarisi like space marines
>>97650026don't worry, guys, i'm not ESL, i'm just having a stroke.i'll go walk it off
>>97650018Stores pay the Trade price on this, this is just a small sample but if you are interested then the information is public and you can check any of them yourself.https://trade.games-workshop.com/resources/US Price Change File - Oct 6th is the one i used for this
>>97649864>chaos eldarCringe as FUCK please kys immediately
>>97650014what are talking about?
>>97649864Or maybe... Just build up all those shared themes within the Dark Eldar range instead and stop leaving them as the neglected step-child faction?You can have more Covens stuff or expand our the Mandrakes stuff. You could give them a larger roster of Xenos mercs and irregulars and arena beasts again.Maybe they can even have a rebel sorcerer character who embraces their psychic heritage in opposition to the rest of their society like a Farsight or a Trazyn.
>>97649992All the knightly marine stuff looks good though
>>97650055These lines. They look terrible, not your fault they exist, but you should try to file them down/ fill them if possible. I'm shocked the sculpts are this bad, I thought the newer kits were better with this stuff.
>>97650007It was less than 10 years ago, zoomieGo do your skibidi fortnite floss for vbucks or whatever
>>97650085Take off the rose-tinted glasses, old stumpy marines looked like shit with very few exceptions.
>>97650076Stfu please and thanks
>>97649969>look through my sprues and bits>not a single SoB body spareaiiieeee maybe i wont be doing this
>>97650090I'll gladly take slightly outdated molds from 2013 than whatever the fuck stupid ass star wars shit GW wants marines to be
>>97648349world is gone madeveryone knows pic related are the good guys
>>97650122This shit infuriates me like hell>Oh you think the Imperium is evil?>That means you MUST think Chaos is good!
>>97650134if you can see chaos as the evil humans you can see the imperials as the good humans of the setting it's not difficult, I thought you knew what moral relativism was
>>97650106The knightly marine stuff does look good though. Black templars and dark angels specifically.
>>97650137No you fuckhead they're both fucking evil, that's the fun part.
For some reason people have a very hard time conceptualizing that a conflict can be between Order and Chaos and not just Good and Evil.
>>97650139>both fucking evildo you think they are equally evil? really?do you also think the tau are exactly as evil as the imperium?
>>97650137As a thought exercise, let's say chaos wins and conquers the galaxy, and then starts fighting each other because of bullshit chaos reasons.Who are the good guys then?
>>97650141order is good, chaos is evil, call it however you want, muddling the point in semantics doesn't change the discussion, it just bogs it
>>97650148Thanks for proving my point
Anons, does anyone own BT Sword Brethren sprue? Can you confirm that it really has more chest neckguard and tabard pieces than the rest of the bodies? GW sprue pic seems to have 6 of them and 5 bodies.Need it for conversions and buying a leftover bit via local groups is better than buying a box.
>>97650146>Who are the good guys then?iron warriors or abbadon's idealists, certainly not emperor child predator baby-murderer the demon prince from the circles of infernal spiky anal rape castle
>>97650158Yeah there's an extra front piece to the body with the neck and tabbard. This is because one is a normal sword bretheren, the other is a castellan.
>There are no good guys in 40kExplain this nerds
>>97650137just because one is REALLY evil that doesn’t suddenly mean the other isn’t. as an example, Saddam Hussein was committing insane atrocities in Iraq, but that doesn’t suddenly mean the US military and CIA who are strapping jumper cables to the dicks of dudes they suspect of being terrorists are suddenly the good guys.
War in Heaven series when?
>>97650169>GOOO GUYI didn't think they let boneless abhumans become commissars
>>97650176>Let's further demystify the setting with more BLslopThis hobby is doomed
>>97650181If BL isnt canon then why does it matter?
>>97650169ok, this is legitimitely funny and a great thing to pull on retard contrarions
>>97650176No humans involved, so never
>>97650170>just because one is REALLY evil that doesn’t suddenly mean the other isn’tit literally means one side isn't REALLY evil, making it comparatively the good guys.Or the lesser evil, if you will, to deny the idea that lesser evils are the good guys of any situation is to deny that there are any good guys in any situation, hypothetical or real, because absolute good can only be found in something that would end up being defined as god itself.
>>97650183BL is unfortunately canon but even if it wasn't the mere existence of its stories give form to previously formless ideas and influences hobbyists perceptions of the setting
>>97650014He left the sprue connections too, just check out the assassin's ponytail.>>97650055How did you get these models, in a store? Did you tell any employee you were new and they didn't bother to give you advice? Or did you just grab some kits without talking to anyone, without doing research and just start slapping them together?A mold is two pieces pressed together, however no matter how firmly clasped when the plastic or metal is poured in excess material will squeeze out along the join and form a line. When you clip pieces off a sprue there will also be some remaining excess material from that connection too. These are rather unsightly and paint should not be thick enough to hide them, so you need to carefully take a hobby knife and/or file to them to shave away. There are plenty of guides online to show you how to do things, I'd recommend doing some research before you move forward.
>>97650188Of course there are.They are the Old Ones.
>>97650188>He doesn't know about the WB at the WiH
>>97650176I will never be satisfied by any depiction of the war in heaven so I hope they never touch it, hell, they should retcon the krork trazyn has too.
>>97650194That's ultrasanon, she's a confirmed woman and is therefore kind of retarded.
>>97650206>she>woman
>>97650214>TroonAlso retarded so it works out the same
>>97650214Yes anon, those are words.
>>97650168Oh fuck yes, thanks anon.
>>97650206Wait, it is?>blingy cup in the backgroundShit I didn't notice, it totally is isn't it. Wild, I've never noticed mold lines and sprue bits on ultrasmurfette's painted shit before.
>>97650214it's probably good not many people remember her retarded moment
>>97650143They're both different kinds of evil>Chaos Lord Gorefingers the Baby Eater invades Dipshitia IV, a key recruitment world of the Screaming Vultures Chapter>Captain Dick Fistius "The Boy Harvester", Master of Recruitment for the Screaming Vultures, intervenes. He states that every baby on Dipshitia IV is rightful property of the Imperium to be turned into serfs and brainwashed child soldiers>Note; Dipshitia IV is a Death World where it rains sulfuric acid three days of its four day local week. On the fourth day the Gigantoarachnids emerge to eat everything they can get a hold of. It has an Imperial population of 592 Billion, 30% of which are lobotomized servitors.
How many kits do you think it would take to fully modernize Grey Knights? Like 4? Maybe 5 tops?
>>97648595>has the collage theme been confirmed yetBig stick won>do you think this will be big enoughYes
>>97650224>do you think this will be big enough>Yes:D
>>97650222>Draigo>Generic Captain>Generic Terminator Captain>Strike Squad>Terminators>Dreadnought>Vortimer Razorback
>>97650246Once they go Primaris they can just use the Primaris Dreadnought and Primaris Vehicles instead. So really only the first 5 are needed
>>97650111>found scans of the parts im missingOkay we are back on track
>>97650221>They're both different kinds of evilYes, and one of the two is the lesser evil, and the relative good guy of the situationor, again, are you also going to argue that chaos, imoerium and tau are all equally evil? or that evil is unquantifiable? making gondor as evil as evil as mordor for not having free healthcare or upward mobility for its peasants?you would be taking all of these objectively nonsensical stances just because you think that saying the imperials fighting literal demons from hell are the good guys there, would make you some kind of real life nazi supporter here?if the world hasn't gone mad, then sure as hell you did
>>97650256You could, but Grey Knights are blinged up to the max and carry special weapons (in the case of the dreadnought), so I don't see them not making bespoke kits. We currently have three separate dradnoughts for what are essentially just weapon loadouts.
I think you guys just have to accept that cruel men that would be called monsters in times of peace are often heroes in times of strife and that dichotomy has always existed and always will.
>>97650278it's all relative anyway. One man's dicatator is another man's messiah.
>>97650176Never i hope, because it will be another HHslop but with xir/saar eldars/orks/necrons. And why that krork looks like space marine?
Have you ever played a game of 40k against yourself?
>>97650291I cannot say I have. I have played a game of Infinity against myself, however.
>>97650283The only way to sell it Space Marine fans is to make another stand-in for Space Marines and Primarchs. And they'd rather pick Orks than Elves.
>>97650291i know of people here who pretend to play, but they aren't using dice
>>97650291Sure, as a lad.
>>97649864>>97650071They shouldn't touch Kabalites for now, since they are more than fine. Kabalites in particular don't need update, there is 0% chance than new kit will be better than current one and there is nothing about current kit that needs updating honestly.They could touch Wych Cults, but they won't do them justice anyway lol. They are too prude to make Wyches into what people expect from them, so I'd rather them not try at all or at the very least leave them for lastCovens should be the first to get update, with new Wracks since those are ass as well as new Groteqsues who are gone, Pain Engines and some new goodiesThen expand their mercs, who were mostly resin and are now gone. Make this a joint release with Tau of sorts. Aside from returning Sslyth, Medusae and such, make new ayys like Tarellian squad which could also be used by Tau. Let Deldar use Kroot too.Mandrakes should get Corsair style expansion eventually, with another troop option and generic HQs in an addition to Kheradruakh thus making them 4th Deldar subfaction essentially.
>>97650307Fuck you, simian.
>>97650291The earlier Imperial Armours had scenarios where they'd list out the models to take and even what gear they had and I tried one one scenario by myself. I guess it wasn't very interesting because I never tried that again.
>>97650291No, and the only time i've seen it was because no one wanted to play the local sperg so he ended up playing against himself and then got angry when the wrong army won.reminds me of our local self gamer
>>97650291nah that's sad and pathetici do know one guy who pretends to play games and stages photos with his armies but he's a major loser
>>97650176There’s not a single Space Marine involved so never happen. (If they did do one it’d be about Space Marines thrown back in time who actually did all the hard work)
I'VE BECOME SO NUMB
>>97650176Is this powered armoured Krork shit old lore or did it originate with The Beast series?
>>97650176I want ancient necrons, ancient eldar and ancient orks to be completely different and near unrecognisable from the modern ones, anything other than that will feel to me cheap and lazy, unrealistic and demeaning towards the factions involved.
>>97650356>I hurt myself today
Here we gather to laugh at non-space marine players.you will ever be a janny slurping up our leftovers.
>>97650368Well said, my friend.
>>97650368>CSMSecond class citizen calling the homeless dude broke lol
>>97650377> seething elftardSit down buddy, its the year of Chaos.
>>97650384>ElfTry again
Good afternoon, Leman russ is a faggot
>>97650377>CSM getting their 16th detachment with the Eye of Terror releaseCare to try again?
Unification Wars series when?
>>97650391>Space Marines getting their 37th>They aren't even in the campaignDo you?
Do elves live rent free in people's heads because, on top of what ever an elf is doing, they're also attractive?
Chaos is the main villain of 40k. Always has been. Always will be.
>>97650393you vill reread 'The Last Church' and you vill be happy that you get that, swine.
>>97650388i do feel bad for space wolves fans, getting your chapter hit by the nig dei curse.
>>97650358Here's what happened with krorks>necrons 3rd ed introduces the war in heaven and the old ones as making multiple races to fight in it, including precursors to modern races, the name krork is used>some novel involving trazyn's museum has a scene where the protagonists see one of the exhibits of the museum, a krork, described as a 12 meters tall ork in a form of armour more advanced than imperial power armour >fanartists take the above and decide that if krorks were more advanced then they must have also been more human/eldar-like in proportions and behaviour there's also ghazkhull having a prophetic dream or two about how the orks went from giants ruled by brainboyz to the orks they are today, and about the future where he leads orks to grow back to their literal and metaphorical past heights, and during the beast series we see orks that were definitely taller than modern orks, with a boss that was at least 10 meters tall, and also more advanced and more intelligent, to the point they had a diplomat sent to the imperial palace to offer the humans a chance to surrender, speaking in perfect low gothicbut any sort of design or idea about them other than "they were bigger and made better shit" is pure fanfiction
>>97650396i smoke crack
>>97650403To be fair they were shit even before that
>>97650397Yeah!
>>97650396No because you are all pretty arrogant and resposible for odious posting on top of the strange fact that this place is ground zero for an eldari infestation. I always contended that even if the Emperor came back to 40k (model, lore) you elfdarifags wouldn't read the room and create threads with eldar related thread images, thread questions and general nonsense (Emperor came back? Better start spamming my DE list asking for feedback)
>>97650403my favorites are the people who are so emotionally invested in see stuff like that fail, but also buy an entire army
>>97650408that explains >>97650415because i'm a space marine player just asking a question.
>>97649992>ATV looks like fucking 40k Mario KartI maintain that the Invader would look fine if it was some sort of utility vehicle that chapter serfs used to move large stuff around hanger bays, like taxing out aircrafts, or carting promethium tanks and the like.>>97650200What if they were to actually do something creative and interesting, but also technically not canon and make a series that is portrayed as being an in-universe Eldar book/play/movie that is heavily stylised and kinda interpretive and obviously somewhat fictional? Like the Eldar equivalent of Saving Private Ryan.
>>97650415holy schizo
>>97650415>eldar-haters have the same lack of self awareness as the decalfagit explains a lot, actually
>>97650330GW definitely doesn't want to mix Xenos Auxiliaries between ranges. Kroot stay with Tau. Tarellians belong to CSM now.
>>97650416this is why you play a chapter they cant nigefy. Zero chance they would make a nig deathguard it would be too on the nose to have a smelly black.
>>97650420>>97650425>>97650427Elfdarifags coming through the woodworks >inb4 um acktually I play SM but will spend the next 3 hours on 40kg defending Eldar to the hilt
>>97650415The hated him because he spoke the truth. Why cant eldar fags just be comfy like ork/necron/nid players?
>>97650432>>inb4> in response to someone telling you already they collect SMyou aren't a time traveler, put down the crack pipe
>>97648341Recipe for red? Looks nice
>>97650432your slop reads more like you want heresy but with 40k dressing in number only
>>97650427I'm pretty sure that actually is fecalfag
>>97650420>because i'm a space marine player just asking a question....do you even know the context of the meme you posted?Also why did this board implement 5 captchas to make a single post?
>>97648341I need to eventually get one for my army. They look like a lot of fun on the tabletop even if they are suicidal.
>>97650454I want you elf fags to know your place.
one yike is turning into big yikes, ngl
>>97649153If they didn't read the books, I become disappointed.
>>97650456Its not me but it has me chuckling
>>97650474That tends to happen with you eldarifags
>>97650470im an imperium enjoyer but i also love both eldar and deldar. i dont get the hate for them its a cool faction
>>97650415>this place is ground zero for an eldari infestationA lot of eldarbros are regular posters on /tg/, and no one more arrogant than marinefags, here or on any another platform
>>97650393>GW already ruined and fucked up the Heresy by making everything retarded, lame and gay.>lets have them go even further back in time and make the Unification Wars retarded, lame and gay too
>>97650421>portrayed as being an in-universe storythat would be cool, in theory, but in practice the average 40k fan is completely unable to grasp unreliability: give them one story and one image, no matter how dubious or situational, and they will parade it around as the one factual depiction and be aggressive towards any other that could come later, officially or not.Even now you can approach the krorks in god knows how many different ways, and yet almost all fanartists end up treating the first fanart of krorks as gospel and just copy or retread that with little to no thought.ideally you'd need a minimum of 2 conflicting depictions of the war in heaven for the unreliability to be considered, and even then they must be equal depictions. make one a stylised or shorter version and people will ignore it for the longer story and more realistic-looking artwork.and if you make the two depictions not contradictory enough, then people would immediately jump to hypotheses to conciliate the two as coexisting, treating both as unquestionable facts instead of taking any part as unreliable.the only two real practical options are to completely ignore the war in heaven and never touch it with any sort of depth, or to actually flesh it out with as much care as you would a whole new setting, doing a competent job at designing the factions of that era in a way that makes them unique AND not undermine the 40k version.because taking orks and saying >actually 40k orks are shit, past orks were better at everything with no downside or nuance and what you think makes orks orky in 40k was considered gay and lame by krorks at their peak, and all 40k orks look up to their superior ancestorsis just shitty writing
>>97650489clean it up eldar janny
Is he extra (You) starved today because everyone laughed at him trying to use grok as an information source?
>>97650415Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>97650421>What if they were to actual-They won't.Modern GW is retarded and only thing that'd happen to War in Heaven is they will make it boring and retarded.
>>97650500god eldar are so fucking hot
>>97650500>>97650516Yea no denying that, they should be concubines for Marines lore wise.
>mfw the likelihood that much like different ork tribes and cultures, there's no singular krork tribe and there's just as likely to be dozens of variants from super mekboys with power armor better than custodes, mutant squiggoth breeders who even graft pieces on themselves, and even aos kruleboy style pragmatic swamp warriors with better tech
>>97650496>>actually 40k orks are shit, past orks were better at everything with no downside or nuance and what you think makes orks orky in 40k was considered gay and lame by krorks at their peak, and all 40k orks look up to their superior ancestors>is just shitty writingHowever you forget that one of 40k's core themes is decline and decay.Krorks as a species degenerating and devolving into something almost unrecognizable is fitting. Orks are a shadow of what their species used to be.
>>97650485The only people who unironically hate eldar are retards that should have been bullied in school hoping they can be the guys on top for once.Physically and mentally ill people.
>>97650528Total projection, Eldar players were all girly men in school who were given swirlies on a regular basis.
>>97650485dont take a vocal minority as a commonly held opinion. most warham players IRL are pretty chill lads who are happy you are happy with your faction and like having variety in their opponents.
>>97650528Projection the post.
>>97650482>exact same posting style >replies within minutes>i-its not me, I just happen to be in the threadNot fooling anybody, you autistic clown. Kill yourself already, hobbylet
>>97650525>However you forget that one of 40k's core themes is decline and decay.Dont worry, GW forget about this too doesnt count for eldar just look at TWO primarchs, primaris and noblebright imperium
>wake up in united states of israel>get on /40kg/>hate on everything that doesn't have large smooth pauldrons and legguards
>>97650520>marine wankdidnt know james posted here >>97650528personally i like the eldar specifically for how different they are to the imperium + their fluff for being an ancient almost extinct race (im a harlequins simp)
>>97650520>fecal pedo can't even falseflag properlysad
>>97650545cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks
>>97650540Wrong, I would gladly take credit but I applaud the other anon for keeping up the good fight.
>>97650545this thread is garbage even when it happens to not be milking the resident autistic lolcow, unfortunately
>>97650541NTA but the Imperium is worse than before with being cut in two, the Primaris aren't Custodes level, let alone DAoT, and overall things are slightly more powerful at the cost of everything else being shittier.
>>97650545you forgot >*puts on fursuit*
>>97650553Yea you're right I think its best you leave, we'll be right behind just don't look back ok?
>>97650560kill yourself you fucking failure
>>97650562Deranged, demented and unhinged..3 words which describe you perfectly.
>>97650560>posting the same reaction image as the one gloating over your no dice "games"yikes
>>97650572Ive posted dozens of games and thousands of pts of models, what have you contributed anon? Oh that's right...weak lore discussion opinions...thanks man
>>97650552you collect the most cringe marines in the setting, sit down
Warhammer 40k?
>>97650541>just look at TWO primarchsWho have done nothing.Guilliman's own first reaction to the modern Imperium boils down to "I wish I would've died 10 000 years ago, instead of seeing this.">primarisWho die by the hundreds and have done nothing to over all lengthen Imperium's lifespan.>noblebright imperiumAnd by this alone I can tell you are a baiting retard or a newfag tourist.If you'd read any of the more recent shit like warhammer crime series, you'd know that Imperium uses shit like servitor sex slaves and to birth more citizens.
>>97650578 and you collect the lint from your navel cavity because you're a modeless wretch.
>>97650586I actually collect 2 armies and none of them are cringe furfags with a jobber primarch :)
>>97650525No, you forget that 40k is first and foremost something that tries to sell itself to you in a way that makes you like and appreciate what it's got.There are cases where it makes sense for a fall from glory to have taken place, it gives what remains a tragic identity and allows them to prove themselves better in different ways, such as in spirit, sacrifice, ingenuity or sheer madness and grit.Nobody laments that humanity has fallen from his golden technological and cultural age, because if it was in its golden age then we wouldn't have the cool religious aesthetics of the tech priests for example.There must a tradeoff of some kind, you cannot tell me that krorks were orks but better at everything, why would I care about orks then? they would feel small and not in a good way.What if instead the krorks were physically and mentally superior but there was an emphasis about them being kept controlled, caged, enslaved and generally unhappy?that would explain their rebellion to the brainboys, would give modern orks a dignifying element as they are, because the physical and mental deterioration would be something they chose to endure for the sake of being finally free to be the bosses of their own fates and to be as orky as they actually wanted to be.It would make looking back at the glories of old not in terms of rejecting everything that they currently are, but in terms of trying to have the best of both worlds: the power of old and the freedom they have nownow you have a reason to like and be invested also in the current "inferior" version and its own unfinished story
I think the Eldar are transcending lore and are mind raping people in this very thread.
>>97650594its kinda curious how both of the worst schizos in recent memory have had irrational hatred for eldar
>>97650594more like eldari fans getting raped in this thread much like the eldar get raped in the lore whenever they lose another craftworld/avatar
>>97650601
>>97650600Both bangels fags too.
>>97650605>>97650600now this is schizo posting
>>97650605We're not going to have a problem are we?
>>97650617you will never finish those hellblasters lmao
>>97650600as a marine player, i feel blessed for such diversity of things to kill on the table top.am i a homo irl? no. elves are by definition supposed to be lithe and attractive in form.
>>97650620and you haven't finished anything nomodels cur
does anyone else headcanon all eldar and deldar to be female ? no one except gays care about elf twinks
>>97650625fuckin hawt, if I was emperor I would clone them and force them to mate with every male in the Imperium, of course we would have to sterilize them first tho.
>>97650626you haven't done any hobbying in like 6 months, know your place hobbylet
>>97650637I'll be finishing my Hellblasters for the Hellblaster collage, don't you worry little mcpeep.
>he still can't falseflag properlyit's getting really sad
>>97650633I prefer my imaginary waifus to have picked me over males of their own species, basically as if they were xenos asians. It adds to the fantasy.
>>97650645anons already said they won't participate if you're allowed lmao
>>97650652Those were just a couple nomodels bullies trying to sway the community organizer.
>>97650581>Who have done nothingAnd they are mentioned in every notable event. In comparsion, entire eldar and deldar factions did completely nothing since 2017, except Laevenir, mossading necrons and jobbing to Huron >Who die by the hundreds and have done nothing to over all lengthen Imperium's lifespanSpace marines created and supposed to die in wars, and anyway they die only in hundreds, while the others dies in thousands or billions against them>warhammer crime seriesIts closed and dead, like warhammer horrors. And even in these novels most imperial worlds were shown not as entirely terrible, like in Oubliette for example. And i dont even talk about the fact than humans are written as heroes in most blslop. This is what gives rise to "achually imperium are good guys">servitor sex slaves Oh, sex slaves. Grim. Dark even. Are you puritard american?
I wish I his general talked about Necrons half as much as they do about Eldar. Love them or hate them, at least the get lots of discussion here
>>97650600There's a worrying trend of people making their hobbies some part of their identity, or lacking an identity to the point of having their hobbies dictate one for them.In warhammer's case it translates to older people who once had harmless banter between factions being replaced by newer people who genuinely take things personally and in turn feel some self-validating visceral need to present themselves as superior by being viciously demeaning to the other sides.This happens way more in warhammer because imperial factions are more popular than other factions and because their identity is a xenophobic power fantasy, and it happens in particular towards elves because in fiction at large it's easy to project negative characteristics onto something that's presented as superior, like an elf compared to a human, and bringing said superior beings down satisfies the need of justice for the underdog.I don't think there's quite the same discordant mix of superhuman power fantasy and underdog revenge fantasy in any fanbase other than marine fans.
>>97650664Deny you've made salacious and inflammatory statements about SW in the past month I fucking dare you.
>>97650658>nomodels bullies
as a heads up im doing a hellblasters collage at the end of the month. no theme just have a 5/10 squad done by the last day and ill compile them all
>>97650685i said i was doing it for personal pleasureshould be primed before bed
>>97650670Damn you really are one autistic motherfucker
>>97650685Heck yea!
>>97650645oh have you gotten over your artists' block decalfriend?
>>97650696Yea he is allowing me to finish and post them to the collage, very nice thing to do and I won't forget it.
>>97650670talking shit about furries shouldn't bruise your ego so much
>>97650699>he
>>97650670I don't bother with that shit, I don't like space wolves as a faction, but that's neither reason to be inflammatory or reason to be inflamed.
>>97650700It doesn't but I will defend my men from unfounded and derisive accusations any chance I can.
>>97650704Wait...does lamenter anon do with the collage and the fridge? I fucking new our queen was still here. She is a back stabbing cuntess tho, but I forgive her.
>>97650709does that mean you don't speak unfounded and derisive accusations to other factions? or does that mean you are a hypocrite?
>>97650711im not lamenter anon.....
>>97650717I'm a hypocrite but mine is retaliatory in nature, for some reason Eldar have it out for Marines in a big way which come to think of it is probably due to the over sexualization of their faction by marines as a whole but you should come to expect that if you play sexy female elves.
>>97650724>in a big wayfor bigly?
>>97650699Just so you know, the faggot who let you on that "hellblaster collage" isn't collage anon. You're gonna be on a collage with one(1) submission. You.
>>97650724>I'm a hypocrite but mine is retaliatory in natureso you are a hypocrite and a liar, at least you admi half of that
>>97650724>I'm persecuted by elves I swear!Not helping your mental case.
>>97650733just a liar, he's pissed off that SM players have defended eldar in the past.very feminine attempts at false flagging. T levels must be dropping.
>>97650719Sorry for the misidentification m'lady, ty for showing me a kindness.
>>97650730Why do you have to belittle and deride anything I do or am involved with, worst part is we would probably be great friends irl.
>>97650753Holy cringe
>>97650759LOL judging by your behavior here you must be an incredibly obnoxious fuck irl
>>97650753*dies of cringe*
>>97650645He said you’re only going to be allowed if you post progress pics with timestamps, which you won’t.
>>97650762>>97650766I was being cheeky relax you stupid retards.
>>97650759Disgusting
>>97650663Necrons are fairly beloved here but we do have some squabbles about who won the War in heaven.
>>97650773You were being a cringe faggot like always. You won’t get your hellblasters done by posting here all day, you grimy pig.
>>97650724>shits on eldar every chance he gets>admits they're sexy femalesthis guy is 100% a virgin incel that thinks women should have sex with him for being nice
>>97650792Ok I'm feeling really good this morning so lets lay off the vicious insults and move on to a different topic of conversation.
>>97650670Space Wolves are gay furries, there's nothing to deny.
>>97650797>shits on eldar every chance he getsThis is a reactionary event on my part tho, they can't stand being sexually objectified by Marinoids so they lash out sporadically.
>>97650765if you happen to not know who this lolcow is, behavior is summed up with >>97647203also he's into human waste and larping as a naziask him WHY he is nogames. hint: no LGS allows it
>>97650799You’re a lazy bum who pays someone to (sloppily) paint your models.
>>97650724>probably due to the over sexualization of their faction by marines as a wholeYou mean marine players right? Surely you don't self-identity as a marine?
>>97650834You already know I paint my models so why repeat this lie ad-nauseam? >>97650836No obviously but lets stop singling me out and discuss something else, no one likes this drama.
>>97650836He literally does. It’s why he melts down about black space wolves lmao
>>97650836it's decalfag, the projection doesn't seem to stop
>>97650858You have literally never posted progress pictures or a handwritten timestamp. You pay to have your models painted by someone as retarded and incompetent as you.
>>97650871I was going to pose some more progress pics I have but the image limit has been reached, can we get a new thread going? Also when I did post my grey models I was mocked for posting grey matter so fuck u.
So uh was the February collage posted already?
>>97650881>i was gonna>but > "muh image limit"you know, catbox could save you time and grief. just have link ready to shut the haters up
>>97650881>I-I was totally gonna…Yeah, whatever you lying faggot. You’ll never finish them because all you do is post here and on r*ddit
>>97650894>>97650896Does everything have to be this combative back and forth argument 24/7? Can't we get along and just shoot the breeze about Warhammer for 5-10 minutes please?
Still hate the bulbous new defiler!
>500 Worlds>Maelstrom>Eye of TerrorWhat else can we get?
>>97650900>mentally ill schizo can't remember waking up and bashing anything that isn't SM or Necronsvery jewish
>>97650883Later today
>>97650901Nurglechads eating good, luv me fat slob defiler
>>97650916haha Nurgle! Fat ugly gross!
>>97650906Armageddon and then 11th.
>>97650919Yes. Khorneroiders, Slaaneshtwinks and Tzeentchlets FEAR the bulbous physique of Grandad’s chosen.
>>97650932>Khorneroiders, Slaaneshtwinks and TzeentchletsInferior Chaos armies absolutely btfo
>>97650906>>97650926Why can’t 40k do anything new. I stopped giving a shit about these names a long time ago.
>>97650946People didn't give a shit about vigilus or nachmund gauntlet.
>>97650946>Why can’t 40k do anything newDid you see the cool new medium Knight we're getting, pretty badass.
>>97650553it was pretty good for the very slim margin in between the fecalmutant arrived and we started community buildingAlso this captcha is bullshit, the other one was so good and now I have to do 5 puzzles every post just because I don't do crypto shit
>>97650955you have shit captchas because you suck at crypto? the fuck are you talking about
>>97650954its just a lesser cerastus or whatever the 30k knight is called with the actual big dick spear.
>>97650946Do you WANT Age of Sigmar 40k?
>>97650978>he doesn't know
>>97648349>>97648357So do you just follow Shas'la Kais or are you him?You posted these exact screenshots 5 minutes after his twitter posted them
Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
>>97650955The community stuff was super nice, I'm really sad collage is the only thing that's left.
Fresh baked bread lazy niggers>>97651006>>97651006>>97651006
>corsair skyreavers go on completely different base sizes than swooping hawks and scourgesWell. Isn't that just peachy.
>less than 2 minutes and fecal fag is already triggered in the next thread
>>97648349>Why did GW suddenly insist that the Imperium is not a good guy faction?>suddenlyMotherfucker, they've said the Imperium is fucking evil since day 1 of 40k.Fucking normies.
>>97650415wew
>>97651032and you're here trying to ruin my reputation again while I am in another thread unable to defend myself.
>>97650966you can skip captchas if you get a 4chan pass, which can only be purchased with crypto
>>97648789true but not during a war like Tsarist Russia did 25~ years earlier, which is the point the passage is making.
>>97648799Thematically its best if you only include a single unit from either. This is in fact how they used to be played.
