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Previous: >>97671938

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: Is it bad manners to remove one player before everyone else?
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>>97678634
>Is it bad manners to remove one player before everyone else?
Depends how early it is and how long the game goes on after that. If you kill someone 25 mins in and then the game goes 2 hours, they'll probably be understandably upset
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>TQ
Case by case basis. Everyone wants to have a good time, but if someone is being a bit of a faggot about it all, get them out asap
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>>97678564
I'll make your deck stickier
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>TQ
>Is it bad manners to be a voltron player
These thinly veiled backhanded comments about a timmy pod are funny
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>>97678467 #
>rofellos banned
>bad math
>prime time banned
>avengers plants DO NOT get buffed by finale of devastation
>FOD also doesnt give trample
What an embarrassing fucking post I weep for your weeny hut Jr pod.

You dont get to escape the shame.
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Oh yeah, thank you to that guy who told me to create a strong green base for a 5 color deck to fix my issues with having all my colors.
Worked like a charm.
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It's crazy how much broken shit is in the format and people want more shit thats clearly broken to be in it
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>>97678649
Please do not cum on the cards
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>>97678634
>TQ: Is it bad manners to remove one player before everyone else?
Are they about to win/going for the win? Then no. Just ganging up on someone "just because"? Yeah fuck off
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>>97678657
The inherent problem with power creep. Some people will never be satisfied
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>>97678658
I didn't fuck my cards. I didn't cum on my cards. I didn't put my dick anywhere near my cards. I've never done anything weird with my cards. I promised myself I wasn't going to make apology posts after last thread's thing so I'm just trying to be as short and honest with this as possible.
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I maek new rat
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>>97678657
>its okay because the point of commander is to have variance! You won't have broken shit every game!
>Oh wait, we keep printing redundancies that are just stronger and stronger so now no matter what you basically will have your lines memorized and will be functionally the same even outside of CEDH.
>Um....unban Iona I guess.
You should be limited to 2 cards of the same effects imho.
Two draw engines, two tutors, two extra lands per turn cards etc.
GC list? Outright ban half of it.
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>>97678679
Everything on the GC list is banned as long as you stay in your b2 lane timmy
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>>97678657
Post decklist so I can tell gavin to ban it so we can reduce broken stuff from running around
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>>97678688
>I'm a good player
>That's why I need to crutch on proxies of overpowered bullshit and partners
Nah idiot. You need to get good. You won't though, I know. You'll just not play for a few months until new netdecks are uploaded.
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>>97678698
>until new netdecks
Idiot cedh decks are so easy to port into b3, but yeah keep whining and hold on to that cope as i pubstomp you lmao
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>>97678698
What does this retardation even mean
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>>97678634
I unironically look down upon you if you're using a precon at a serious table and/or using an EDHRec top 100 commander.
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>>97678658
I did not have sexual relations with that card.
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So what is this one supposee to mean?
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>>97678814
kai budde
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>>97678771
Autism
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>>97678814
I mean... c'mon now
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>>97678814
and ofc the scryfall troons didn't go for his more flattering art
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>>97678642
>Is it bad manners to remove one player before everyone else?
Generally no. I think the format needs more then just battle cruisers. But if youre killing everyone by turn 4? Thats too much for me personally.
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>>97678814
gay hero sucks dragon but gets destroyed wizard's dong
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Friends do you think this is the best commander to build around this card?
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>>97678634
Niv-mizzet still cool?
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>>97678771
What, you didn't get enough (you)'s with this bait the last time you posted it?
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>>97678771
I wouldn't know what the top 100 is, I don't visit that site.
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>>97678970
Aha. Oops. I only looked through commanders i actually own but he seems like a banger choice
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>>97678972
He can still easily go infinite, yes.
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bought picrel and thought it would be fun to have a non-stop creature fights so no one loses their creatures when swinging around, some guy just dropped phyrexian altar and went infinite, so can't run that anymore.

https://moxfield.com/decks/j1blP4ymV0uygyNoi5GeQQ
overloaded this a bit lol


>>97678985
I mirrorformed around 30 tokens into hidettsu and kairi and ended up casting galvanic into dream harvest and a bunch of degenerate nukes and won
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>>97679063
Make it one sided.
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>>97679063
Had a friend who ran intruder alarm just so he would always have blockers.
Then he played against a krenko...
Being silly barely pays off anymore.
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>>97678658
>>97678649
A buddy of mine ordered a kaalia of the vast recently on tcgplayer and it literally had cum stains on it.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97679076
is it the vexing bauble of bracket 2?
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>>97679080
this didn't happen btw
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>>97679082
Something like that. I've only ever played against with my buddy who runs it, and he just drops it turn 1. Every time. Doesn't understand why it never works out for him.
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>>97679083
I really wish I was lying but after seeing it in person it had to be either cum or like snot wiped off the card leaving some sort yellowish dried film. The seller sold it as Moderately played and thankfully it was shipped in a hard case so you didn't have to touch it but it was clearly stained with some sort of bodily fluid. My friend obviously refunded it and threw away card after showing our play group the horror.
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>ordered card from TCGplayer (20 dollars)
>wait 5 days last delivery date, didn’t receive
>messaged the store on TCGplayer
>no response after 3 days
>refunded following day
>the next day I get the card and a message from store owner saying it should’ve been received, apologies blah blah
>ok go to request to pay for item from TCGplayer
>no response after 4 days
Should I just accept the free card? It’s the stores fault for clearly forgetting to send and then not responding.
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>>97679138
Yeah TCG has been having a lot of issues lately. They have gotten 2 of my last orders wrong and the one before that had a literal counterfeit card.
Just keep the card, fuck that company.
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>>97679148
I too have received fake cards from tcgplayer. I use overpriced card kindgom if I can't find the card I'm looking for at any of my LGS.
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works on my orders ;^)
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>>97679163
How were you able to tell they were fake?
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>>97678634
>how could i abuse this card
enter
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>>97679175
Welp it's a short story. Basically the deck I built wasn't fun and not my thing so I decided to trade them in for different cards and the shop owner checked the expensive cards with a jewelers loupe and found out 2 of them were fake and didn't pass the green dot test or light test or Letter T test. So yeah definitely a sad day.
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>>97679148
>>97679163
Jesus christ I've received an entire batch of fakes last week. They felt off so I used a loupe and they all failed the green dot test
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soon
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>>97679138
tcgplayer has been fucking up a lot recently; coupled with the mailing system currently out of sorts. I'd just keep it at this rate. No telling if they would even bother to reply given how bogged down the system is.
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>>97679238
>No telling if they would even bother to reply given how bogged down the system is.
nta, but only twice I've had a shop not reply, and both times tcg's AI (is it Hailey..?) steps in and takes over. I've gotten refunds processed in minutes when it happens
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>>97679217
lol real and straight
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>>97679220
Shouldn't it read something like:

When Luna enters the battlefield, exile a permanent you control and create a clue token.

When Luna leaves the battlefield return the permanent exiled with it to the battlefield.

Also no set symbol or watermark, which leads me to believe you didn't even bother looking up the artist.
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I love this little nigga so much. And each set we keep getting new toys for him
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>>97679467
that formatting is a completely different ability and isn't used as much anymore
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>>97679220
>partner
A slam dunk include, the shippers can cruise their OTP to victory
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>>97679479
>they made a Chainer retrain
>it doesn't even interact with Nightmares
WTF
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I have a Kroxa discard / reanimator deck, with evoke elementals, burnt offering, sacrifice, culling the weak, and soldevi adnate + all the undying evil effects. Would dropping the discard stuff and switching to Rograkh + Reyhan for metamorphisis, survival of the fittest, dorks, more evoke elementals, and better reanimation targets make the deck more or less cringe?
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>>97679479
redpill me on him. I constantly try to put him into my rakdos decks, only to cut him out again. what do you actually do with him? aristocrats?
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>>97679743
that's a completely different deck then, so no value judgement here. both discard and reanimator are strong mechanics too. I guess the only cringe part is using partner commanders.
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>>97679807
Which decks? I don't think he fits generically into any rakdos deck. My deck is specifically built around self discard and reanimating. I use him to discard fatties and recur small critters like Magus of the wheel and most Plaguecrafter variants to mess with my opponents and generate value with stuff like Monument to endurance, Bone miser for blockers etc until I have a reanimation spell. I search for stuff with Goblin engineer, Gravebreaker lamia, Oriq loremage, get back what I need with Ardent elementalist and Doomed necromancer. Then Rise of the dark realms and boom everything has haste and hits you for whatever life you got left after Terror of the peaks and Flayer of the hate bound (note he doesn't trigger off Chainer's casting ability)
Imo madness cards are a trap, they're not good even with a free discard so I only have Big game hunter
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>>97679467
>artist
Nigga thats slop
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>>97679959
rakdos demons, rakdos tokens. my main problem was that he always felt too slow for rakdos, I usually have more important 4drops than him. so you basically play him as supplier for a rakdos discard reanimator deck, I get that. sounds similar to meren.
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>>97679238
>>97679260
Yeah getting the refund wasn’t an issue, if the game store waits to long it seems automatic.
That said, I didn’t get the card until nearly 15 days after the est delivery date, nor did they respond so I’ll just keep it. I don’t want to bother with this shit, kind of tired ordering online anyway. Ima just buy and build from my local stores can provide.
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>>97679095
was it the SLD printing?
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>>97679807
You can discard a creature to cast it from your GY to give it haste for free, and black has about seven hundred different graveyard interactions to stack on top of it.
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>>97680254
If you don't have heavy gy interaction in those decks he'll be slow for them yeah. His ability is not that good in a vacuum, you need him to give you the recursion+something else with synergy pieces to make him good
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>>97680352
what are some of those good synergies that aren't "I cast reanimate"? because 4cmc casting cost + discard cost + casting cost of creature in GY is not really strong on its own
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>>97678771
Chances are if you're playing a top 100 commander, the whole deck is a net deck. With maybe a few budget options, sometimes. Why people do this in the most casual format is a real head stratcher.
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>>97680698
Cards that give you things for self-discard?
Like low cost madness?
Monument to endurance, etc etc etc
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>VALUE
>VALUE
>VALUE
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>>97680724
I GOT THE BEAST IN MAH SIGHTS
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>>97680720
The popularity of a commander has minimal correlation to its goodness. That IS casual.
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>>97680728
Honestly all this does is tell me how many people "play" this game without actually wanting to engage with it. Suddenly UB and a lot of card designs start to make sense when you see shit like Vivi as the #1 Izzet commander when, contrary to popular belief, Izzet has commanders that are not absurdly overtuned.
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>>97680749
>overtuned
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>>97680728
Yes anon, people brew powerful and good commanders. Sorry that offends you some how.
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>>97680758
Oh sorry the doublespeak is getting to me. I meant "not untested garbage intentionally made to be game-warpingly powerful."
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>>97680720
Casualness is a fiction. The game only knows winning and losing.
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>>97680728
the thing that baffles me most is how fucking high up mothman is. a 3 colour +1 counter mill hybrid on top of that. nothing about him sounds interesting or fun.
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>>97680784
Sandbagging is the only reason the format remains functional. Contrary to popular belief there isn't a very large dedicated audience for blue farm mirrors.
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>>97680749
How does one draw such a braindead conclusion
>>97680784
Same question to you

Please I want to be stupid too please help me
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>>97680794
Thankfully dorks are terrible and make the data for cedh unusuable.

>>97680783
It was tested. But your deck is only as strong as what you put in it.
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>>97680791
The rankings on EDHrec aren't indicative on how many people are actually playing them. Just how many people are making brews and uploading them.
People, for some reason, also just upload precons or their barely modified precon brews. So the numbers of precon face commanders are heavily inflated.
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>>97678771
>>97680728
you should spend less time worrying about online metrics and play games instead. How was your last game? Did it have you decide on a card to cut/add?
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>>97680808
>This cope again
Yeah anon I'm sure YOUR Vivi deck is totally fair and won't snowball out of control the moment you untap with a 3-drop that sets itself up.
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>>97680825
It's decidedly not a top tier deck anon. You just have a very low skill level.
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>>97680794
>Sandbagging is the only reason the format remains functional
Incorrect, sandbagging is the only reason the format can support a variety of strategies via arbitrary bans and rules (hence fictional), just like 60 card is more than just vintage, the rest of the 60 card formats are just "sandbagging" too by banning moxes
>>97680802
I await your citation of the mtg comprehensive rule that states you get extra points for your deck being a unique little dweeb even though it loses a lot
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>>97680698
Monument to endurance, cool but rude
Discard 4 cards in a turn rotation to chainer
8damage + an assortment of extra damage, cards, or treasures
Surly badgersaur, pick off your support creatures
Such things
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>>97680847
You can make a bad deck that loses. But complaining about it is stupid. I always wonder what these people do; they werent trying to win, why do they think that they should win? It was never the objective.
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>>97680846
>it's decidedly not- ACK!
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>>97680847
>citation
Huh? You are actually retarded post makes no sense.
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>>97680872
This just means its played, you need to post conversion rates. Admittedly they are similar here but you are posting the wrong info, cause ury tarted
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>>97680872
What about the rest of the image anon? You are googling to justify your mad.

>>97680886
Mostly there is another better izzet commander that is top tier, but this is a fair point too.
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>>97680859
Casuals dont know anything that's why their hot takes are not to be taken seriously
>>97680878
Imagine being retarded enough to not know that the game only knows winning and losing though
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>>97680886
Yeah you're right. Vivi is better than Magda.
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>It's another episode of "This card is totally fine if every other card in the deck is a basic land"
I'm getting really tired of reruns asking for Mox Sapphire to be unbanned.
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>>97680905
Anon, you dont know what those numbers mean and cut a giant chunk of the image off. Maybe magda isnt good anymore either because the meta has evolved.
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>>97680916
>No no NO Vivi is NOT overpowered! I can't be caught holding the bag after it was banned in Standard!
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>>97678654
What did you end up using? Im figuring out the 5 color elemental precon myself
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>>97680916
>You need to look at these numbers
>Okay
>You don't know what those mean
Pretty goalpost movey anon.
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>>97680912
No? It's just an anon you personally offended by something minor. Normal things.
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>>97680921
Begone thot.

>>97680923
I'm not the guy who suggested conversion rate. But I dont really want to talk to shitpost-kun and his hyperbolic all caps temper tantrum.
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Gay Ral is better than Vivi in cedh
But the average Vivi will absolutely stomp the average b2 deck
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>>97680921
Banned in standard is a real low bar.
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>>97680902
The game doesnt know anything anon. Its an inanimate concept. There only being winning and losing doesnt preclude something from being approached casually though, you dumb nigger.
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>>97680905
Of course im right. I always am. Stop talking about things you dont understand, or you would've posted conversion rates to begin with.
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>>97679479
post the decklist I was just talking about this guy last night
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>>97681035
If the game doesnt know anything because muh inanimate concept then it also doesnt know the retarded casual thoughts in your head you pedantic idiot
>but muh casualness can be approached!!
Whose approach though? Yours? Who the hell do you think you are hahaha casuals are so full of it
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>>97681135
>pedantic
Sure... either way the game doesnt care how we approach the concepts of winning and losing.
>casuals are so full of it
Very self defeating but you are too dumb to understand
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The CEDH larper is back.
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>>97681179
>either way the game doesnt care how we approach the concepts of winning and losing.
Unfortunately for you it does, otherwise people like you wouldnt be complaining about being pubstomped, but ofc casuals dont know any better so no surprise there
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>>97681199
Im not complaining about anything. And the fact you keep on calling people casuals completely defeats your position anon. Your ego has destroyed your own argument lmao
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Do anons even have fun with game or is it always like this?
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>>97680728
Among those, I only play pic related because he is just like me: Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor
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>>97680728
I understand why they're on there but I really can't stand designs like Krenko, Lathril, and Giada. I built Lathril just to have a lend out deck for players trying to get into the game but when I tried to play it I was so bored I never played it again.
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>>97681216
>im not complaining about anything!
>>97680720
>Why people do this in the most casual format is a real head stratcher
Your casualness betrays you, you are so infuriated why a pvp game is being played to win it's hilarious
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>>97681226
I have fun. I just dont really enjoy people pretending to have fun. Play magic, y'know? Budget is irrelevant, power level is irrelevant. Just play magic.
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>>97681252
This is how everyone should treat it imo
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>>97681226
I often wonder this
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>>97681252
I'd respect casuals more if they really acted like the "happy to be here even with a 0-7 record for the night" persona they pretend to have, but alas their true natures reveal themselves
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>>97681272
Yup, they're always pissed off and complaining and online. I get it, losing feels bad, but to ascend beyond feeling bad is to become good, even if you never win. As long as you improve no game is wasted.

>>97681257
I dont mind weird formats and like deckbuilding challenges, I just dont play with people who get upset and throw a fit because they lost or someone does something they dont like.
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>>97681226
Yes. I enjoy playing and making shitty proxies to put in my shitty brews. Complaining about UB and everything else has to be fun, don't get it, but has to be otherwise people wouldn't do it, and that's still having fun with magic, so I have to give them some grace.
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>>97681226
I only have fun when one of my Rule of Law effects resolve.
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>>97681251
You are free to cope now.
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>>97681340
>lol you see that's not me
>oh dont mind me defending the previous anon's opinion that totally doesnt make us pretty much the same person in practice i wouldnt have butted in the convo if i didnt agree with the other ajon you know?
Ecksdee
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>>97681226
I have fun...last weekend a coworker invited me to teenate turtles draft. I'm a chud and hate UB, but I hadn't played for a while...I had a ton of fun. Still hate UB though
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help I'm addicted to building boros decks...trying to brew this shitpile
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>>97681398
Have you built Razia yet?
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>>97681398
Why would you brew a commander that doesnt work?
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>>97681398
Speaking about boros, should I? I traded it on a whim because the old frame foil is gorgeous
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>>97681414
Feather is a card for people who unironically think Buyback is a good mechanic so if you're one of those people it's probably great fun.
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>>97681400
I haven't, I got Anim pakal and Taii wakeen, and Akiri. What do you do with Razia?
>>97681403
Because it's fun trying to make it work
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>>97681398
>put lots and lots of red draw discard spells and colorless self mill
>throw in sun and inferno titan too for flavor
>but in truth be a boros reanimator that goes infinite with reveillark or something as plan A
>just use phlage primarily as removal and commander beatdown as plan B
There you go
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>>97681449
It wont work because it is better in the 99 10/10 times.
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>>97681474
>>97681476
more or less that's what I'm doing, but I'm focusing more on the MV=<3 revive spells, damage doublers, and all the "when a creature enters deal damage equal to power/copy the creature", so more of an enchantress deck. Then plan is to bring Phlage over and over and burn everyone. With a doubler and a terror of the peaks I may kill the table in 6-10 Phlages
Disrupted by a gentle breeze lmao but hella cool
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>>97681525
Hells yeah anon, do your best!
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>>97681357
I wasnt defending him though. I was calling out your retarded statement. Nice cope 3/10
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>>97681448
is not a good mechanic? well it's not especially interesting, but not good?
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>>97681558
You know what's retarded though? Arguing against me who is telling a dumb guy to stop ruining his scalp over people playing to win in a pvp game lol
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>>97681398
I have a paper list for this guy as a astral drift deck. But then I remember its too reliant on getting the slide started with tutors or whatever. Maybe one day ill actually try it out.
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>>97681585
Im not arguing against anything but the concept that there cant be a casual approach to this game, which you've dropped immediately. Continue coping all you want
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>>97681602
People can think of anything like unlimited mulligans, generous takebacks, and free looks of the top of their library - and they do - and us sweats are fine dumbing ourselves to your level, but the inverse isnt true and the malding that ensues is very funny
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>play a game with randos at LGS
>play some precons and low power decks
>had a fun and close game
>we all agree to another game
>player that got knocked out first asks if he can switch his deck
>"sure, should we switch ours as well"
>no, you guys can keep the same decks
>he pulls out kefka
>"uhhh are you sure that deck isn't too strong"
>it's bracket 2, it doesn't even have any game changers
>we had a good first game, so I give him the benefit of the doubt
>
>it's a grixis value pile
>try to interact in any way, he flickers kefka
>triggers kefka once or twice every turn
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>>97681573
Feather is very very strong. I don't see how you can build a feather deck below a very high bracket 3 or bracket 4 unless you are missing your brain.
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>>97681668
Grixis archenemy is a-ok for b2
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>>97681677
I know it's strong, it would be for when the lads bring out the Vivis and such nonsense, but bracket 4? Isn't that borderline cedh?
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>>97681684
2 card combos and cEDH decks minus the game changers are not, you disingenuous retard
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>>97681668
Did you call him out on it? Him switching and telling you guys to keep the same decks is some very salty Jewish behavior. Another reason brackets suck- just because there is no game changers doesn't mean its in the same powerlevel of other "twos" if its built right
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>>97681704
yes.

https://scryfall.com/@Loldragon/decks/39655c44-e649-4d10-8376-efe27d081772
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>>97681710
Flickering kefka is not a "2 card combo", dont dumb down terms
What, is dork + land a 2 card combo now?
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>>97681731
I called him a disingenuous fuck and left the store
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>>97681740
no, but infinite dualcasters is
I know it's hard for you to think of 2 card combos in grixis colors but google is a very helpful tool
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>>97681731
>Formats like standard draft modern and legacy are fine even though decks in the same format can have wildly different power levels
>But brackets suck because decks in the same bracket can have wildly different power levels
Midwit intelligence right here
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>>97681769
Please tell my why im wrong. Actually explain it to me since im a midwit
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>>97681760
Wow anon nice job not including that in your greentext, i wonder why you missed out this critical detail
Now you did show the guy that 2 card combos arent allowed in b2 right?
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>>97681734
that's cool and all, but I don't plan using Feather for cantripping into combos and moxes. More like Guttersnipe and heroic creatures. That's not b4
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>>97681780
Why are you fine with standard having decks of disparate power levels but not b2?
>inb4 stop sweating in my casual game whose mascot card is rhystic study
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>>97681573
Oh yeah I meant good as in enjoyable and a good addition to the game, Feather is pretty powerful though.
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>>97681793
That’s cool and all, but you didn't mention this at any point. You doubted whether Feather belongs in Bracket 4, so I provided a Bracket 4 list to clarify.
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>>97681668
What a fag. I stopped talking to my friend cause he married this cunt who whenever I won a game would switch to her fully proxied cedh deck and target me with all the free interaction and then gloat, while we were all playing with what would be b2 decks. Hes now a browbeaten fag but I guess when youre a single dad you take what you can get
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>>97681795
What the fuck does standard have to do with EDH you low IQ mongoloid
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>>97681832
Brackets are formats and that has everything to do with edh you fool
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>>97681795
not that anon but the bracket 2 players in our group are in a heated debate over Esper Sentinel right now. Half thinks it fits the bracket perfectly, but the other half argues it’s a "game-changer in disguise" that goes against the spirit of the bracket. It’s a perfect example of how the bracket system creates more problems than it actually solves.
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>>97681835
I asked what STANDARD has to do with edh and you immediately dropped it so its fair to say you know youre being retarded GG go next faggot
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>>97681797
Interesting, never heard that opinion. Do you find it (buyback) just meh or actively bad and detrimental?
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>>97681795
Why are you putting words in my mouth? I said nothing about standard. Does standard have bracket's? Or game changers? Or 99 card decks in a singleton format?
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>>97681843
>unable to understand analogies
Many such cases!
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>>97681836
if it's not on the GC list then it's not a GC, seems like the easy answer? unless you guys are arguing about every card in the deck, then the deck is just too strong for the pod
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>>97681398
Phlage has a pedigree in Modern because it can play a critical mass of fetch lands, the Lightning Helix is enough of a tempo play on the sacrifice to make it worth the effort, and further helixes on attack are huge in a 20 life 1v1 environment. Don't waste your money.
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>>97681852
Standard is a format in 60 card land
Bracket 2 is a format in 99 card land
Standard has a banlist
Bracket 2 hss a banlist (aka GCs)
They work the same in practice anon, your b2 deck is a saffron olive against the odds
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>>97681853
That isnt an analogy, that would be a comparison you absolute BUFFOON. A comparison you cant even back up.
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>>97681887
Denial isnt just a river in egypt lmao
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>>97681879
GC isnt a banlist and brackets are not different formats. You are impressively stupid.
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>>97681896
>GC isnt a banlist
Yes it is as long as you stay in your b2 containment buddy boy
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>>97681879
Anon you've already been called out on your retardation from other people, this response doesn't clarify anything in my post
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>>97681907
>you've been called out
>by what exactly
>no we just say it so it becomes true just like the troons do when they say they're girls
Huhehe
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>>97681895
No like literally, by the definitions of words and how they work, you used standard as a comparison, which is literally spelled out here >>97681879
Decidedly not an analogy. Youre embarrassing yourself.
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>>97681836
sorry but i don't hate white enough to take away esper sentinel from it
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>>97681911
Feel free to die on that hill of retardation.
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>>97681844
I find it meh. I for one do not a get a lot of enjoyment out of casting the same one note card 15 times a game.
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>>97681920
oh dearie me what else to do with retards but to just laugh at their feeble attempts to be taken seriously?
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>>97681937
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>>97681226
stax/control player only have fun when everyone else is miserable. this propably bleeds in to real life so instead of staying in their basement they whine about UB and brackets to shit the thread for everyone else.
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>>97681668
Genuine rat behavior.
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>>97681806
ok
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>>97681921
Our bracket 2 faction is on a crusade against white. Esper Sentinel is one thing. The removal of trouble in pairs from the gamechanger list? The second crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
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>>97681940
Might wanna read the entire definition anon my word you are pathetic lmao
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>>97681896
yes it fucking is and you better not bring any of those in my table
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now that we can universally agree that reanimator is op, what are the alternatives for honest edh pods?
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>>97681944
one hell of a Storm enabler
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>>97681962
yes i've read that analogies are comparisons and yes you are incapable of higher thought lmao
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>>97681557
ty anon
>>97681870
we always proxy our decks before buying so nothing to lose trying my shitbrew >>97681525
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>>97681959
I specifically don't play Esper Sentinel in B2 Betor or Galadriel. He got too big too fast due to all of the redundant +1+1 counters sources and playing him turn 1/2 was a really easy way to get too far ahead once the table cast their rocks and rampant growths without paying the 1. It was irresponsible to put him there in the first place.
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>>97681414
You'll win a lot, I just found her very boring.
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>>97681940
>green apples are green, red apples are red this is an analogy xd
Here ya go big guy, stop acting smug just cause you cant accept you used the wrong word

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
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>>97681984
Do you ever plan on actually printing these out?
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>>97681945
I find that offensive as a rakdos player because I have the most fun when I can remove everyone's shit while not being a massive degenerate. I'm just a normal degenerate.
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>>97681525
I actually built B2 Joshua, Phoenix's Dominant with that build type recently and I really love it. Sun Titan does a ton of work in that deck.
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>>97681975
They are a specific type of comparison where you compare UNLIKE things to draw attention to a shared truth. You are objectively incorrect in what youre saying.
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>>97681998
I do. I am currently waitung for a friend to finish his cards so we can order together. It'll likely happen within a couple weeks.
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>>97681992
i see you have a humiliation fetish kek
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>>97681988
As you are clearly a member of the bracket 2 faction what is your opinion on trigger doublers?

I'm playing cards such as Delney, Harmonic Prodigy and Windcrag Siege in bracket 2 and getting shit from the bracket 2 faction for playing clearly bracket 3 cards. It's the combination of the doublers being too strong at mana value 3 or less and having too many making my deck too consistent.
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>>97681937
I understand. I do enjoy storm decks, Feather is looking fun for remembering those 60 card prowess style decks. And it's a good fit for the Sword of feast and famine I have
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>>97682013
>They are a specific type of comparison
so they are a comparison, got it, thanks for your concession :)
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Bracket's were clearly a mistake
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>>97680897
Stella Lee btfos Vivi and Ral but dont let that secret out. Shes just underplayed because shes super boring and one dimensional but she still wins lots.
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>>97682049
No one said otherwise anon. Just that what you were using was not an analogy as it lacks the logical inferences an analogy brings about.
>red apples are red
>green apples are green
>this is an analogy about apples
You cant address this despite it being the exact same logically as your "analogy", because its plain yo see its a simple comparison lacking in the logical inferences that analogies demand.
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>>97682070
Dont take it personal, this anon is shitposting for attentiona and being retarded on purpose.
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>>97682049
>>97682021
Since you both have trouble reading more than a single sentence here it is.
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>>97682078
Pretty obvious at this point. Disengage
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>>97682070
>imagine being this competitive at arguing (and losing btw) at a mongolian basket weaving forum but god forbid there are stronger decks in brackets
lol
no amount of your denial will refute what i said >>97681879 only casuals still holding on to the old RC and a dead man whose favorite card is rhystic study refuse to realize the truth
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>>97681991
I'm ok with a stronger deck. What is worrying me now that I'm brewing is, I don't really enjoy voltron decks (commanders that get big and incidentally kill voltron are fine), so I'll have to actively avoid the buffing instants and focus on protection, because I'm seeing that even with my heroic creatures on board the best action will always be buffing Feather
>>97682009
Joshua sounds suuuper fun, can you tell me more?
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>>97682086
>man with incredibly fragile ego must say hes won over and over
Your post makes no sense anon.
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>>97682123
what makes no sense is to demand that every single deck must be the same power level that's for sure
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>>97682080
>not even the first thing you read in the article
classic "full story buried in page 5" journalist energy right here kek
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>>97682029
It's all about context. I play Delney in B3 Y'shtola and would probably still play her in B2 if I removed the deck's combos since she'd be a second instance of Y'shtola and not a spiderwebbing nightmare of trigger piles. I'd never play Delney in a deck where I'd be triggering her 3-4 times per turn. Windcrag Siege is perfectly okay. Attack trigger and ETB doublers are almost always okay. The real difference maker is what triggers are being doubled. If it's something with initiative like attacking or casting a spell that's fine. If it's something reactive to an opponent I don't like it for B2 specifically.
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>I’m looking to build an Arkham Asylum flavor deck.
>cool. who's your commander?
>Jodah the Unifier as the Joker.
I need new friends.
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>>97681969
This. reanimator B4 only WHEN?
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>>97682001
>letting etbs resolve
that's not stax
>inb4 I always have the orb
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>>97682053
esl opinions don't matter
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>>97681969
Reanimator is mid at best anon.
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Talking about reanimator, what are some good budget targets in rakdos? This guy is pretty decent
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>>97682245
Magmatic Force is also kind of a beast.
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>>97682245
what is your budget, $0?
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>>97682225
the thing with "reanimator" is that you're not supposed to revive timmy beatsticks
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How do I get WotC to reprint a card I need?
I don't want to buy moon runes.
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>>97682276
nta but I play this exclusively to revive timmy beatsticks
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>>97682102
>Joshua sounds suuuper fun, can you tell me more?
Flickers and red draw/discard effects, your choice of strong 2/3/4/6 drops, haste effects, and as much reanimation Boros reanimation as you can play. I have a bunch of ETB removal dorks like Fiend Hunter, Banisher Priest, Duergar Hedge-Mage, and Skyclave Apparition along with big dumb 6 drops like Clive and Angel of Indemnity since Joshua can revive up to six mana's worth of creatures on his saga. I also have Glint-Horn Buccaneer, Magmakin Artillerist, and Torbran as a burn sub theme that might end up being cut or pared back since Joshua's first two saga effects are burn and you discard a lot. In testing Zirda, Banon, Sun Titan, Angel of Indemnity, Clive, Feldon, and Combustible Gearhulk have been standout cards.
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>>97682223
'
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>>97682276
I wanted to build this so fucking badly but the Ball Lightning effect ruins it. Just let me give a shitload of creatures out and watch chaos happen goddammit
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>>97682276
But that's the weakest type of reanimator?
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>>97682277
Unironically proxy, or find a functional reprint (good luck)
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>>97682277
>portal
[laughs in ching chong]
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My cards should arrive today. You'll hate them.
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>>97682304
>>97682307
the idea is to entomb leveler asap so that by turn 3 you have bullies out and you are now a rattlesnake ready to take out a player instantly the moment they mess with you and such a gamestate forces your opponents to just focus on themselves instead (effectively goaded) and so you are now left alone to assemble your own game winning combo in peace
>anon that's so mean
wow i never would've guessed with the commander's name
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>>97682291
sounds great. Did you find yourself wanting to cram a bit of proliferate for the saga, or do you get to resolve it even when telegraphed? Or you just don't care because you flicker Josuha if they try to get him?
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>>97682353
I support this and raise you one worldgorger dragon.
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>>97682353
>the idea is to entomb leveler asap
nooo that's bad and will never work out
the moment the opponent with removal in hand passes you cannot kill them anymore
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>>97682353
Leveler is good, but I've always enjoyed this guy instead. Isn't a OHKO mean strike but still fucking ruins them
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>>97682360
It's not 100% reliant on Joshua resolving his last effect but the flickers do help a lot when they try to snipe him. Proliferate was a thought but it had so much non-synergy elsewhere that I chose not to put it in. Metastatic Evangel almost made the cut since it's a lopsided 3/1 for 2 but I ended up cutting him for Magmakin Artillerist.
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Tips? I don't normally build token decks, or white decks in general. Looking at lists I'm having a hard time finding something that strikes a nice bracket 3 balance between durdling battlecruiser and Dualcaster infinites.
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>>97682421
>the moment the opponent with removal in hand
you can always cast bullies again
>what about grave hate
most are sorcery speed, odds are the b3 pod you're in doesn't have endurance
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>>97682449
If you can build the deck, try. If you cant, still try anyways. Dont copy others, scryfall syntax is the one true way.



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