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>>97692905TQ: Pic related. Mercs can always use more metal.
>blocks your pathWhat do anons?
>>97692989Give them a job. Legit the most useful forcepack for me yet, I've found use for 'em in each of my factions.
Second ever pick-up game tonight, wanted to bring two very different lances and under the same color but I didn’t paint everything so it is what it is. 250PV and no skill 1 pilots, possible base defense scenario if enough of us show up. Skill 3 catapult, jagermech, and archer. Mostly Clan invasion refits.
How much would it helper if 0.5 ton ammk was a thing for AC 2 and 5, SRM 2 and 4, and LRM 5, 10?
>>97693017Honestly I'm looking at allowing fractional half-tons for just Autocannons just to give ACs a bit more flexibility with single bins. SRMs and LRMs I don't think really need them, but just being able to keep a couple shots available of wacky rounds is never a bad thing.
>>97692936But anon, those minis are plastic
>>97693318Don't get cheeky with me Mekwarrior. At least my BA are metal.
NEA mech has finally reached the video games.
How long does it take to build a mech? Years?
>>97693785The total time from first screw tightened to first shot fired is probably unknowable and depends on time periodFactories are canonically capable of making anywhere from a few dozen to a few hundred medium mechs a year, though this doesnt really tell you how long it takes for input to be processed to output
>>97693785We don't really have that kind of specific data, especially since they stopped providing most data due to nerds nitpicking all their (admittedly bad) numbers to death. We know some designs go from conception to production in a year or two, with things like the Fireball being a direct response to clan battle armor and rolling out to the front in 3053. The Patriot started production in late 3070 and is listed as available in that same year on MUL, but it's possible the earliest run of it is just prototype Pikeman mechs reconfigured to be Patriots, or that someone's out of universe dates are off or very optimistic.
>>97693870>due to nerds nitpicking all their (admittedly bad) numbers to deathBased. It's a calling. If you don't want autism, don't make games.
>>97693624I'm ok with this on the sole grounds that they used the 2-missile launcher from my original kitbash (a Killa Kan rokkit launcha), and not the significantly more boring and less flavorful 5-tube pack that looks like it was ripped off the right arm of a Catapult.
>>97693785Weeks/months but it really depends on a bunch of factors.
>>97693999That Quickdraw is either having a bad time or too much of a good time
What are some quintessential Steiner mechs? I've got a couple Atlas, Griffin 1s, and some other stuff. I want to make a proper Lyran force. They'd probably field a king crab easily wouldn't they?
>>97694250After Star Corps starts making them on Son Hoa, sure. In the succ, everyone has equally bad access to King Crabs.
>>97694250HatchetmanCommandoBanshee (S variants specifically, aka the good ones)WolfhoundBushwackerFafnirSalamanderAxmanBerserkerNightskyUzielHauptmannHollanderBarghestGotterdammerungGauntlet
>>97694250>>97694266Oh, and the Zeus. Can't forget about the Zeus, it's their most common assault.
>>97694277Also T-bolts.
>>97694305Well, the Thud is common to every House military, not just the LCAF. A couple of the ones I listed are also relatively common with the Davions (for reasons that should be pretty obvious), but all are primarily Steiner mechs.
>97693999Keep AIslop in some other thread useless namefag
>>97694325???
>97694351>it's not AI said the AIStop dickriding the useless namefag and kill yourself
Newfag/steinerfag here. Finished another mech, wat do?
>>97694421Paint moar.>>97694388>"you're an AI" said the anon not making any sense and not replying to posts correctly
>>97694421until you have at least one of every mech chassis from SW to FCCW, you're not done painting.
>>97694257>>97694266>>97694277>>97694305Thanks, lots of good stuff to pick from. Looks like Atlas and T-bolt are next. I've already painted them before and enjoyed it quite a bit.>>97694421I'm coming for your spot, sport. I already have my steiner-pult baking as we speak. Gotta be honest, you're a better painter than me so you might win.
>>97694452SW to ilClan*
>>97694455>I'm coming for your spot, sport. I already have my steiner-pult baking as we speak. Dont worry bud. I finished House Liao, now im doing Steiner, after will prolly be the Taurians... im making a lance for every major faction in the year 3000
>>97694464nogames faggot.
>>97694478If you're going to include the worst era (FCCW) you might as well include the rest of them too.
>>97694488There are 3 eras, SW, CI and FCCW. Everything else is third party queer fanfiction.
>>97694492>Man includes Refusal War and Bulldog in the Clan InvasionThe CGL queer is YOU!
>>97694421pick three 'mechs you like the look of, and paint them. Even if they aren't good, even if they aren't ever gonna form a functional lance together.Just get a few you like and make 'em exist.
>>97694492I guess most players I've met IRL like playing fanfiction, according to some dumb faggot who hates fun.
>>97694505A) anecdote, B) stats show SW and CI are the most played C) even if they weren't, sometimes the majority just means a lot of idiots.
>>97694495if you aren't splitting SW into 1,2,3 and 4, then you dont split CI either. Splitting hairs is splitting hairs.
>>97694525Guess what fucko? Jihad has been subsumed into FCCW, too. Checkmate.
>>97694519Wow, it's almost like most people don't only play one era. Gee, I guess I can't play Succession Wars games anymore if I also like playing Dark Age.
>>97694531>like playing Dark Age.faggot confirmed, clickytech was a laughing stock.
>not using battletech as a system to convert Battletanx to tabletopYou guys are doing it wrong
>>97694528>has beenthird. party. fanfiction.figure it out.
>>97694538The lore is shit. The tech is quirky and fun, which makes good games.
>>97694538Clickytech did indeed suck, hence why I play Dark Age in Classic.
>>97694525I split the succ into three different eras as 1+2 are both just nukefests with some advanced star league stuff left over, 3 is the absolute nadir where a gimpy Phoenix Hawk fighting two tanks is a front page news development in the ongoing stalemate, and 4 because it actually starts to pick up again with real troop movements and serious invasions and assaults.
>>97694543But making the Clan Invasion to 3060 an era is also CGL. Everything before that puts a hard stop to the Clan Invasion/Clan War at 3053. You grouping it beyond that is CGL faggotry.
>>97694544Most of the narrative issues with it have been corrected, aside from the Blackout, which will never make sense. Too bad they decided to include like two gay characters so accourding to this one faggot it's all fanfiction.And yeah, the tech is fun. The closing of the technology gap between Inner Sphere and Clan makes it feel like Succession Wars but with way more cool toys.
>>97694551This is reasonable and 2990's Maddest Max is peak succ.
>>97694551Most people split up Succession Wars. When people talk about actually playing in the Succ Wars era they're generally talking about the year 3000 onwards.
>>97694552Incorrect. FCCW does not begin in the refusal war or bulldog.
>>97694564The real bottom line is that only newfag posers play anything other than 3025 or 3050.not 3026, not 3051, not any other years.
>>97694556>Most of the narrative issues with it have been correctedNot really. The whole backing Stone and the Coalition with Clans and the MMRP and everything is still full retard. Not to mention the Early DA bullshit like a single Batt of Steel Wolves nearly taking Terra, and all the stupid as fuck 3120's tech and chassis retcons in maximum Stoner downteching remain a completely incoherent mess. The Blackout is also way less retarded than the Wall. DA is just such a major clusterfuck.Bastards couldn't even give good closure to the Bannson storyline.
>>97694567I cannot argue with such sequential digits.
>>97694567FCCW begins at 3062, as soon as Serpent returns from the Kluster. And, CGL lumps the entire Jihad in with it, now. FCCW isn't even an era anymore.
>>97694552Operation Revival ends with the Truce of Tukayyid in May 3052. The Clan Invasion era ends with the Great Refusal in 3060 as the last major event and concludes the following year.
>>97694580>CGL lumpsno one gives a fuck what CGL says, they are a fifth or sixth party licensee of a third or fourth party owner, that puts them so far away from canon that they aren't even in the same timezone.
>>97694582Now read all the 3050's novels that call the end of the Clan Invasion at Tukayyid. Anything past that is CGL era bullshit which he claims not to cotton to.
>>97694586Topps are the first party owners of BattleTech, and CGL licenses it from them. And the end of the Clan Invasion era being in the 3060s was established under FASA. Don't act like you know things when you're clearly a newfag.
>97694388>inb4 "ItS cOnTrArIaN aNoN aGaIn" pants shitting
>>97694598the first party is FASA, numbnuts.
>>97694594The Clan Invasion (Operation Revival) and the Clan Invasion era are two separate things and almost always have been.
>>97694607Does FASA still own the rights to BattleTech?
>>97694610First Party is not a position that changes hands you fucking mouthbreather.
>>97694609The era is a CGL term. We didn't have them before that. That's the point. Nobody referred to the Clan Invasion as anything beyond 3052 before that. The fiction is almost nauseatingly repeating about the invasion maybe starting again but nothing about an era. Somebody do a word search for "renew the Invasion" because it's sickeningly common.
>>97694607FASA stopped owning the rights after it ceased to exist for a while, and the rights were divvied up between multiple parties, with the print and tabletop rights going to WizKids (which was founded by the guy who ran FASA) and then WizKids was bought out by Topps, who now license to CGL. That makes Topps the people who own the rights to the tabletop game under US Law.
>>97694617It is.
Does Liao rhyme with "now" or "meow"?
>>97694622Newfag confirmed.
>>97694629Nyaaa
>>97694623yes, the legalese bureaucraticI rights got sold off, then sold off again, then sold off again, and again, etc..Each selling changes "X Party" by one numeric qualifier. That's how that works.
>>97694629yes
>>97694633Speak not to me of the ancient magic, newfag, for I was there when it was written. Eras is a CGL thing they started stamping on the back of books about 15 years ago.
>>97694638This is the most insanely wrong, inanely fucking retarded horseshit I've ever heard. Please kill yourself so the collective IQ of the human race can rise a few points.
>>97694642Sure buddy. Maybe you should get off the internet for the night, it's probably past your bedtime.
>>97694650I accept your concession.
>>97694652That's nice, dear.
>>97694660Starting to sound a bit like Kraken there, anon
>>97694647Look buddy, if your name isn't shakespeare you don't get to publish plays under that name and claim they are legitimate shakespeare works.The creator is the fucking creator, anyone who writes shit for a given universe who is not the creator, is a third party and whatever they write is non-canon fanfiction. The moneychanging games of corporate entities under a legalese system does not have any fucking impact on that, if you think otherwise you are a mindless paypig corporate drone paypiggy bitch, and the irony is that being such means you don't actually "think", you just seem like you do to an outside observer.Thankfully LLM's have shown us that the capacity to communicate in a manner which seems like it is thought driven dos not necessitate the presence of intellect or agency, which makes NPC faggots like you finally explicable.
>>97694671In that case, FASA isn't first party at all, so I don't know why your panties are in a twist.
>>97694574The MMRP was mostly just a thing that happened inside of the Republic, the other states just paid lip service to it but didn't actually abide by it for the most part. The 'Downteching' was just because it took longer for properly-equipped forces to take advantage of the Blackout than it did for guerillas and irregulars in the Republic's border regions. And the Fortress Wall can at least be handwaved as weird hyperspace mumbo jumbo because FTL isn't super well understood in BT at the best of times, meanwhile the Blackout was a massive military operation that somehow nobody noticed was being mobilized for let alone who was doing it, and nobody with the manpower and resources necessary to carry it out would've benefitted or did benefit from it.
>>97694675>if I pretend to not understand things I win the argument!No, you don't.
>>97694671That's simply not how IP works. Stop posting.
>>97694680Most of the blackout is some kind of hyperspace deep fry signal that destroys most HPGs when they pick up on it. Only a handful were physically attacked by military operations.
>>97694681Sorry bro, FASA is literally a money changing legalese corporation. Jordan Weisman made Battledroids before it was published by the FASA corporation. Then they changed its names for strictly legal reasons related to the word droids. Unless you're playing out of Weisman's development notebook, you're not playing first party.
>>97694680If you read the OG material, the Republic was purposefully downteching their regulars for easy maintenance purposes and had fuck all for space defense. Then, magically, they get the most powerful pocket warships ever made and a bunch of advanced chassis when "pulse lasers were too complicated" to keep operational in the Triariii. It's a proper clusterfuck. The Blackout makes sense as fucking with hyperspace on a signal you can project, but forcing a misjump of every single fucking ship in a set radius is bonkers.
>>97694691That's not how IP works. Stop posting anon, adults are trying to talk.
>>97694682you can't sell ownership of an idea shitbird. The entity that made an idea will always be the entity that made the idea, it is not a matter of choice.In this case the ideas belong to the collective of individuals who comprised FASA, either they are all and exclusively involved in the creation of new material, or that material is not canon. CGL doesnt get to claim that because SOME of them worked for FASA, people are not boats and cannot have the Ship of Theseus applied to them. Many FASA employees do not and will not work for CGL, some have been explcitly barred from involvement, and many tranny faggots who work for CGL had nothing at all to do with FASA, therefore they are not the creators of the universe and anything they produce is fanfiction.Except "fanfiction" isn't really the right term, is it? seeing as a number of them dont even like the game and have admitted they were forced to lay a game or two just so they could avoid being called nogames faggots.
>>97694697You can't just say one corporation isn't a corporation when it's literally a corporation and did not originate the first version of the game. Battledroids was written by one man whose name is not FASA. If you're a first party purist, then you lose from the start unless Weisman has given you his original notes.
>>97694698You literally can sell ownership of an idea, it happens on a regular basis. That's what IP is, and why there are laws to regulate the ownership of it. Unless you have suddenly overridden those laws, then you are just some faggot on the internet talking out of his ass and your subjective opinion on what you think those laws should or should not work means precisely fucking nothing.Stop posting.
>>97694714>Unless you have suddenly overridden those lawspeople do it all the time, it's called "piracy" in common parlance."IP law" is this faggot cope invented by boomers who can't into the physical realities of the digital world.If it isn't physical, it isn't property.
>>97694698Are you one of those Battletech "Resurgence Era" fags?
>>97694726Okay then, commie.
>>97694730He almost certainly is. Nevermind that even the dumbest shit CGL has put out still shits all over that crap.
>>97694730>>97694734>>97694738Oh look, the pathetic mindless NPC's struggle to fit me into a predefined category box because they can't fucking think.
>>97694753If you didn't want that to happen then maybe you should try not to fit so well into a predefined box.
>>97694763I might, but not any you're capable of coming up with.
>>97694753>this isn't my box he screams, snugly bundled up in his little box
>>97694770I'm sure "dumb NPC" is close enough to suffice.
>>97694777Tfw anon is actually my cat
>>97694785That's ironic coming from the fuckwads who can't conceive an original thought for want of Official(TM) scripts.
So anyway, I'm putting a No-Dachi in my fedsuns force and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>97694808mall katana mechs are retarded.
>>97694805>You can't conceive an original thought, says the manchild who scream, pisses, and shits himself when presented with anything written after the 90s
>>97694815Correct, but they are also very cool.
>>97694808I mean, certainly at some point someone would salvage at least one.
>>97694726>"IP law" is this faggot copeMeds, now.
>>97694815I'm actually kind of surprised there isn't a fedsuns variant that trades the MRMs for LRMs and the sword for a hatchet. There's a Steiner version with a mace, and I'm sure that makes samurai go apoplectic just by thinking about it.
>>97694834If IP law had any relevancy then I wouldn't own terabytes of media that I have never spent a dime on.You cannot legislate the ephemeral.
>>97694839the mace version is still retarded, the very design of it is retarded, you can't un-retard the weeb mechs, they are like the tetatae, best ignored.
>>97694852>If I break the law that means the law isn't realMan, if only people in jail knew that
>>97694726>>97694698>>97694671You're more mentally ill than I am, and that's saying something. Good luck with your transition I guess. I do recommend the orchi, you seem like you wouldn't miss them anyways.See you at pride (._.)
Best era and why?
>>97694872if you violate a law with impunity and never get punished for it, then yes, the law is as good as nonexistant.Arseholes in powdered wigs can sit and write all the laws they want, without enforcement it's just toilet paper.
>>97694928In terms of writing quality:Clan Invasion > Succession Wars > ilClan > Dark Age > Jihad > FCCWIn terms of how fun they are to play IMO:Dark Age/ilClan > Succession Wars > Jihad > FCCW > Clan Invasion
>>97694942They do enforce it, it just seems you misunderstand how. They target distributors of pirated content, not the people who consume it.
>>97694965cope. pure unfiltered cope.
Comstar Battle Level II reprints when?
>>97695013whenever you turn on your printer.
>>97695023I'm not a criminal.
>>97695031What in the everloving fuck is criminal about printing?
>>97695013Soon, supposedly. But that's a CGL soon, so, like, anytime between now and, like, summer.
>>97695037Technically the ones using the MWO designs are illegal to sell, though I think they can be distributed for free under Microsoft's terms. Either way I still buy them, though, I like owning both the CGL designs and the PGI designs so I can match what my opponent brings.
>>97695037You WILL buy the Chinese plastic, you WILL NOT get the new force manual from sweaty 4chin NEET’s who pirated it, you WILL read the gay pride anthology and you WILL like it, you WILL be a good cumsomer and you WILL like it.
>>97695097CGL has no involvement with the pride anthologies, and there's nowhere to get plastic miniatures besides China unless it's from GW or Bandai.
>>97695089>to sellthat wasn't the question, the question was to print.as you have alluded, the pgi designs are free to use and distribute without any proviso but for monetization, all other designs are independent creations.The game itself is miniatures agnostic, so there is not even a claim that miniatures must be acquired from specific providers, nor even miniatures be used at all.and lastly there is neither anything immoral or illegal about manufacturing your own property in your own home.>CGL designsYou mean Shimmy designs. the only thing CGL is the plastic they sell which are of offensively low quality, a smear on the designs Shimmy made.
>>97695097>you WILL NOT get the new force manualCorrect, but for altogether different reasoning than you imply, that being that the Battletech Master Rules are still the only thing needed or desired to play the game.
>>97695113You make it sound like they stole those designs from Scroggins when he literally works for them.
>>97695102>>97695097The problem isn't that it's Chinese plastic, it's cheap Chinese plastic that they're getting lazy on QA with
>>97695128Okay, then buy the metal ones. I just bought myself a second of the new metal Marauder IIs tonight.
>>97695128If it's cheap Chinese plastic that's had poor QA then how has my Orion survived having two old school metal tape measures dropped on it with only paintjob damage to show for it?
>>97695176I think he means the mold lines, which are, admittedly, not great, but they've been improving on that front with each release.
>>97695127attribution where it belongs. that he prostitutes his work doesnt change that it is his.
>>97695197mold lines are the least of it.
>>97695135No. I'll print illegally and love it. Fuck CGL. I hope they go out of business. The sooner Battletech doesn't have a publisher, the sooner it can actually be good again.
>>97693012Another good time at the LGS. Had some laughs with the local fellas and got to roll some dice. It was a 2v2 defense scenario with me ending up a defender. Had a great opening turn and hit a lot of shots but then fell off hard with some genuinely embarrassing short sighted positioning. Didn’t get to finish the game but it would have probably been a loss for us if attackers started getting serious about opening up on the objectives.
>>97695237"Start being good again" is a weird way to say "slowly die out".Unfortunately for you, the game's currently making the most money it ever has in its history, so that's not likely to happen in the near future.
>>97694477>every major faction>Taurians
>>97694928Jihad
>>97695365Based?>>97694952Full agree on fun list.
>>97694928I like playing FCCW cuz that's when the Men Shen exists and it hasn't failed me yet on TT. Plus it has cool tech. Haven't tried Jihad yet, and I've only ever had two games of Succ Wars and two games of CI so I can't say much about them in terms of gameplay. The most I've ever played was FCCW
>>97695430what's that terrain? cardboard foldables like the standees in as box or as terrain set, only better?more?
>>97695102oh fuck. you just made my dick get hard.instead of gunpla kits for dumbass gundam shit.... can you imagine if B-N made gunpla of battletech? and not destroids or glaug officer pods etc, but current BT.I want this in gunpla so fucking hard.>its not even that far of a stretch, since they've done an utterly insane series of star wars ships from small scale, all the way up to a mega milllenium falcon kit
>>97694832look, I am far more MUH DRAGON than most posters itt, but even I have to say...But Why?
>>97695530I would deffo buy Battletech models if Bandai made them.
>>97695548this, i bought every single one of their star wars ones except for the ultra expensive super huge millenium falcon and their disney wars shit. luke's xwing, vaders tie advanced, the tie interceptor, the tie, they're fucking rediculously high detail, and they're the cheap LITTLE tiny kits. i got the bigger y wing, tie interceptor and xwing kits too, and they're fucking retardedly sexy.jesus, I fucking WISH they made an archer. and since they have limited information, since the designs are outwardly so simple (for printing as tiny miniatures) the B N team could go full ham with their creative awesomeness souping up the designs and making them even better, addressing the 'new minis suck' crowd's hatred.and if they did their usual gunpla insanity, making each fucking variant have its own fucking kit, you could have a grf, grf 2n, grf 3m gunpla.
>>97694808I bought the two new drac force packs cuz they looked cool but I realized that my main force is gonna be capellans, who don't have a border with the dracs. IK the dracs and FWL had a trade agreement at one point but no clue if they'd be trading Akumas, Avatars, and so on
>>97695530If this happened I would cease to have disposable income.
>>97695588I fucking know, right? gunpla kits are already insane quality, even little ones can be stupidly great, despite being cheap and inexpensive, and then it scales up to really huge kits with thousand of peices that are modular and posable and everything. why the fuck does CGL hate money? it would also be a nice wedge to help B N breach the western markets for gunpla, since the star wars kits did great for them and were so well received. fucks sakes, they were stocking the things in MY bumfuckistan town, let alone the big towns and cities.why go to retarded chinamen, when the japanese will happily make you fuckawesome shit that is actually worth a damn?
>>97695574The Capellans had a loose trade agreement with the Combine during the Republic Era in Dark Age. Presumably this is not going to be a thing going forward since the Capellans invaded Dieron during their recent conflict with the Wolves, but that still gives you numerous decades to get hands on those mechs.Or you could just not be a coward and start a Kuritan force as well in addition to your Cappies.
>>97695574>>97695609Oh, and the Avatar is used by basically every house.
>>97695609>Or you could just not be a coward and start a Kuritan force as well in addition to your Cappies.True>>97695615Good to know, thanks!
>>97695574The Concord of Kapteyn could justify it, probably.
>>97695609>>97695615>>97695620Reason I wanna do a Marik force is because I want someone my cappies could reasonably fight, and I prefer the FWL to the FedSuns/FedCom depsite them making more sense to have DC stuff
>>97695530>shimmyseen gunplaI sleep
>>97695655you can already buy like, a billion different tomahawk glaug officer pod, destroid etc gunpla kits contrarian-anon, you relentlessly negative gigantic faggot
>>97692905>beak openah yes the jade falcon in its natural state of wolf dick sucking
>>97695678>contrarian-anonDisliking shimmy/CGL's art design is actually not that uncommon here.
>>97692920You dingus!
>>97695693I know I've been here too damn long when I can unironically post this. Tho, if I had to name a BT art era I wasn't a fan of, it'd have to be Syd Mead. Wasn't a fan of him for Gundam either.
>>97695678Tell me, nuln, how does cock taste? Why do you enjoy it so?
>>97695812I don't understand, he's only arguably tangentially related to battletech.How can you name an aesthetic era of a franchise after someone that didn't even have a direct hand in it?
>>97695830says the gigantic faggot. your obsession with cock is your own problem, projector.
>>97694928Jihad. Total holy war, mass murdering armies of religious cyborgs, WMDs, ship combat, the Society, Clans and Spheroids working together and so on. It's peak king shit imo
Just because I can, doesn't mean I should
>>97695840Probably meant Duane Loose.
>>97695519Thick cardboard, pretty firm compared to the foldable terrain that comes with the boxes.
>>97695574It’s dragon time for you anon.
>>97695530Plamo (PLAstic MOdel), gunpla are specifically GUNdam PLAstic Model kits.>>97695607>why go to retarded chinamen, when the japanese will happily make you fuckawesome shit that is actually worth a damn?Because Bandai does Quality Control...
>>97695519>>97696528Can’t seem to find them although I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that radar dish before online somewhere, I know most if not all (I think the rail is 6mm) is 28mm for Warhammer. Still played well for battletech with the smaller boxes laying around for partial cover though.
>>97695278ho much money some asswipe corporation makes has absolutely fuck all to do with playing the game, having a corporation interfering with the games stability by making rules changes that newcomers will get confused by when they approach established play groups is a problem.Battletech has survived fine through many corporate entities, and we, the community, have now denied the establishment of 2 games meant to replace Battletech, forcing one company out of business and the other to continue producing material for the existing game in order to retain a tenuous grasp on relevance.CGL is a licensee, they will go away eventually, like all who came before them. Given they are run by a financial criminal and are hell bent on stupidity like alternate universe shit no one asked for they are guaranteed to eventually fail outright.
>>97696780>thinking he'll outlive CGL
>>97696830NTA but I’m gonna live forever, in a few decades I’ll be the old man yelling at the sky in these threads.Where can I find these cracked campaign videos with the nukes and shit? I’ve looked up this cincy guy but I can’t seem to find match videos.
>>97696830my cat will outlive CGL's involvement in Battletech.
Steiner newfag reporting in again. Finished another mech. Wat DO?
>>97697692Keep them coming anon I wish I had your drive, I’ve had the same crab on my table for a week now. Your doing good work anon god speed.Pic unrelated for you
>>97697803Thanks anon.Haha. Ive painted 1.75 lances and have yet to play a single game
>>97694421I've read that it was common for Steiner to run Catapults in lances with Grasshoppers, Exterminators and Highlanders.
>>97698247Tell your astech to put some clothes on this lance is made up of straight dogs and they are getting hungry.
>>97694594Personally, I think the Fedcom Civil War and Jihad had some good bits.
Should you cut up your decals if they are to go over the panel lining, or hope that the solvent will settle it gently into it?>>97697692looks really solid imho
>>97697692Do you paint the panel lines by hand or is it a wash or something?
>>97698485It depends. For my capellans (see pic) i will hand fill the panel lines with wash. For white, blue, other colors i will wash entire basecoat, then drybrush color back, leaving the lines intact
Fuck me, but Scouring Sands has been the most fun I've had on a tabletop in years.Is "AS isn't BattleTech" grogginess common 'round your parts?
>>97696780I can smell the copium from here.
>>97698697Never understood this. It's just an alternative format for the same game. I play both.Excited for when Aces gets officially ported to Classic.
>>97696780>shit no one asked for>audience getting interested in abominationsSome of the other AUs might be harder sales but Gothic might as well be "whelp, here's a preview of some weird shit the Blakists might be in to." Enjoy your light blazers and BA anti-mech rifles!
>>97698699Then wash your ass, faggot.
>>97698821people want kaiju creation rules.Those cyborg things are not kaiju, there are no creation rules.The one thing people started to ask for when they were told about them CGL came out and said "No, we won't do that"CGL knew this faggot shit would not be wanted, it's why they didn't put it through kickstarter and actually used their own funding.Anything the playerbase might want get puts to kickstarter so the playerbase can assume the responsibility of funding it on the behalf of CGL.Any entity with an established line of capital should be prohibited from using kickstarter.
>>97698846I gotta ask, if you hate fun and this game's community so much, why are you even posting here? Better yet, why don't you just put yourself out of your own misery?
>>97698938>The only thing that's fun is being a corporate bootlicker!The one fixing for the rope here is you.
>>97698955>Not being a negative nancy faggot cuck who reacts to every single thing with kneejerk hatredMust be a miserable way to live. Get a job and a life. Either that or just kys
>>97698995>Not being a negative nancy faggot cuck who reacts to everything with kneejerk hatred is bootlicking*Oops I had a stronk
>>97698995The irony is that is exactly what you're doing right now, so this is projection.How long until you hang yourself?
>>97696864>I’ve looked up this cincy guy but I can’t seem to find match videos.Lol Fuck off zoomer
>>97699191See>>97698938Also>>97698995end your life boomer so I can buy your pewder mechs at your estate sale.
Was the original intent for the clan invasion being they invade from the rimward border and the cappies got rassalhague'd true or just a rumor? Either way what do you think would have happened with the other players on that side of the map like the cows and conopus? Because I can imagine the writers doing something akin to the raven alliance with the taurians and hells horses
>>97699490What is wrong with your life that you are in this thread every day of your life asking inane stupid "what if" questions like this? The answer will always be "whatever the fuck the writers wanted" because it's fiction you loser.
>>97698697Nice, I was going to ask if anyone played scouring sands itt. I have 1.5 more jade falcons to paint before I dig in. You play solo or co op?>Is "AS isn't BattleTech" grogginess common 'round your parts?Not at all. My friends, who were happy to learn classic with me, find AS much easier to commit to, especially when drinking, and the lgs crew play it a decent ammount for a change of pace or to field tons of mechs within the constraint of store hours. Pretty much anywhere but this general it's seen as a fairly elegant quickplay variant.
>>97699490IIRC it's a rumor like the Alpha Omnis. Might be true, might not. I was born during Gencon 1987 so I don't have any firsthand knowledge like I do for later stuff.
Touched a nerve I guess
>>97699490I think I would have preferred it tbqh.Cappies get shid on by Wolf and Jade Falcon. The Smonk Jerks get stuck into the FWL and absolutely shits on Andurien and gives the FWL a reason to actually unify a bit and become a damn sight more cohesive without losing sight of what they are, which is cool. I'd probably have the Ghost Bears run into a brick wall of a fight and actually get repulsed, and possibly pull out and go take over the MoC to lick their wounds. Hells Horses do the same thing with the Taurians. Have the Dracs have a crisis of faith, because they're being looked to to provide the Inner Sphere with the refit kits and other industrial crap and now they're breaking down the middle because they're having an existential crisis about helping their traditional enemies in the face of the clan invasion.It'd also set up the WoB thing nicely with the Operation Rosebud precursor, and then have Sharilar Mori 'take the place' of Demona Aziz so to speak and give a good reason for the Wobbies to set up shop in the DC, especially if they 'help' the DC stabilize after a nigh civil war because the hard liners can't accept helping the FC and others.
>>97699568You forgot the part where Hanse is still alive because he doesn't have a heart attack at finding out Sunny is going to be married instead of the little shit becoming a Wolf bondsman, Ragnar style.
>>97698846>people want kaiju creation rulesMost kaiju are way too far above a 'Mech's weight class. We're talking 50 meters tall and up (original Godzilla from 1954 was slightly over that). The rules for that are "and if it doesn't step on you, you're in the path of its MechWarrior Retirement Beam". Capital-scale damage, might as well have a Santa Ana go off in the characters' faces, ground zero.
>>97699504NTABecause its fun to speculate you boorish retard. Half the fucking thread is some cunt shitting the place up arguing over the absolute most asinine shit imaginable rather than enjoying the fucking subject matter at hand. At least random question anon is trying to sort of provoke some sort of fucking discussion other than relentless negative hate you miserable fuckstick.
>>97699587>MechWarrior Retirement BeamI'm totally stealing that for my energy ortillery lingo from now on.
>>97699511You arent writing a campaign or a sroey, youre a loser trying to live in a fictional universe, you dont even play the fucking game or paint models, you just ask these asinine questions 1-3 times ITTEvery.Fucking.Day.
>>97699582I actually had another idea to follow on to that. Possibly bring Steel Viper into the Inner Sphere to 'replace' the Ghost Bears who fucked off, and then Sunny T eventually does a Rasalhague Dominion and joins up with the Vipers to create a Cappellan Republic or something. idk.
>>97699600NTA but post games. This thread has been getting shit up by some negative nigger all day and i think it’s you.
Actually on the topic of actually running games I'm looking at running a campaign for my local and going through TacOps for material. I want to have smoke and fire be a factor, but wind based fire spread seems a hassle, what do people think of a simplified fire spread like so:>Simple Fire Spread:>Intentional or Accidental Fires may spread to adjacent hexes. At the end of a round, any fires set become capable of spreading on the next turn. Roll 1d6 for each adjacent hex. On a 4+, heavy flammable terrain and hazardous buildings and hexes catch fire. On a 5+, light flammable terrain catches fire, snow (thin or deep) turns to mud; thin ice disappears. On a 6+, buildings catch fire and any non-flammable tiles (including melting snow or ice) are covered in light smoke.>Each affected hex tests for fire spread only once for each fire; but may be set ablaze normally otherwise by additional intentional or accidental fire. Fires set by spreading fires may set other fires. If a hex would be eligible for being set alight by more than one adjacent fire, add 1 to the roll for each additional fire instead of making multiple tests. Hexes that would ignite on a roll of 1 ignite automatically.
>>97699704Not a bad way to look at it, we have an old WH40k scatter die and roll it a couple of times per fire. If the die points to a hex with flammable material on it up it goes. In the case of fire resistant targets then we roll a d6 and much like you do determine if its actually set on fire. Things like open desert and stuff we just don't even count as being flammable, or more of a case of 'not burning intensely enough to bother mechs etc.' We also keep fires around for 2 turns, at which point they turn into smoke which usually lasts another turn after that. Might save you a bunch of dice rolling in the future anon, but I dig it.
>>97699704Gonna be a thousand percent honest with you, anon. We never spread fires and only do smoke drift and smoke increase on a round timer for intentional fires.
>>97699600
>>97699780NTA, but fuck, I gotta catch up on Primal season 3.
>>97699786woke trash.
In this week's issue of...Tales from the Periphery! The Inner Sphere's premiere digital and physical magazine. We bring you an interesting tidbit! Clan Ghost Bear, or as they go by now, The Rasalhague Dominion (don't even ask how many times it took for this editor to spell that right) have released a great work. This time, it's a videogame called "Trial of the Ghost Bear" This action packed, emotional title has hit store shelves in Dominion space and nearby Periphery worlds with great reviews. Which comes to a surprise to the nation. With this success and the money it's bringing in, they intend to release it to the wider Inner Sphere in the coming weeks. Knowing clanners on the whole, there is no doubt in my mind that the other clans are working on their own games to compete with. So, expect a batchall or two for game devs in the future.
>>97699689Calling the drivel you post "thinking" is an insult to mankind.
>>97699600NTA, but it's not your fucking business if he does that.
>shadow hawk looks awesome>shoulder cannon is just an AC5please tell there is an AC10 packing variant that turns it into a diet hunchback
>>97699949Look at the SHD-7H
>>97699949>>97699962oh and also the royal variant
>>97699855Anon you make the mods on the Reddit look well-adjusted. Go mald somewhere else
>>97699947anything you post in public is free game to shit on, if you dont like it, keep it to yourself.
>>97700034Go back to /b/ faggot, we talk about BattleTech here
>>97700050post mechs shitlord.
>>97700056You first.
>>97700066already did, I do regularly, I've earned my right to shit on nogames faggots posting bullshit.
>>97699962>>97699991looks like it doesnt give anything up to carry the new weapons due to endo-steel and light enginesclan tech is a hell of a drug
>>97700079So have I. Post more.
>>97700088You were challenged first.
Can we all agree to stop responding to captain piss diaper? His samefag personas all have the same voice so it should be easy
>>97699999The quints of truth.>>97699962 thank you for this information
>>97700110You sound like a reddit mod
>>97700146Go back.
>>97692905Uh... how close to actually getting an IS ultralight to work here am I? Sub 1 mill in cbills, fairly fast, 1 ton of heavy ferro-fib, endo-steel, small cockpit a medium pulse laser as it's main weapon, with a pair of RL10's as a nasty surprise (originally it was going to be two M-Pods, but I couldn't find the tonnage without compromising on price)The idea is that they get in, they unload everything, then they fuck off. If they need to hang around it's not like a Medium Pulse Laser by itself is nothing. People like the Minotaur, and that thing is slow as shit.
>>97700205>Sub 1 mill in cbillsHuh, thought that was on the preview. It's just under 900k (something like 893k) which makes it cheaper than a locust by around 400k, with, let's be honest, not entirely dissimilar loadouts, mobility, and survivability odds.It's also hovering around the same price tag that Megamek gives to 9ton Protomeks.
>>97699999if you get quints during your first Trial they just give you your own Clan
Trying a new scheme
>>97700343
>>97700343>>97700349Nice, very chewable.
>>97700343>>97700349That's bad ass. Good job on the freehand. Is the rose on her rear meant to make me think of an anal prolapse?
>>97700386>herWhat
>>97700205IMO the only way to make a decent IS ultralight is with a XXL engine. The mech's gonna be fragile as shit no matter what (specialized armor can help, though) and it's pretty hard to fit enough guns in something that light to make it run terribly hot, so just slap the biggest engine you can in it and make it run stupid fast.
>>97700394War machines are always female, anon.
>>97700403Only the ones you can fuck.
One down, three to go.If the paint looks thick its because im painting over my HRE lance here, wasnt happy with the way the yellow turned out on them.There was no plan here, just started painting.
>>97700343>>97700349>>97700476Looks really good, some great freehand. Nice work nazi, looking forward to seeing the full set.
>>97700476Very sexySteiner newfag here. Finished my 2nd LANCE! (Just need to base when i get home)
>>97700506This part isn't supposed to be cockpit glass.
>>97700554I thought cgl's thud was this way?
>>97700554Painting is a playground and I'm the bitch with all 151 pokemon cards
>>97700554>>97700563So many people fuck it up that it's been adopted as an official minor variation of the chassis. How many extra c-bills would you pay for a cockpit skylight?
>>97700554>>97700563There's a cockpit location guide on camospecs, if you want the official glass locations.
>>97700554>>97700563>>97700584Oh shit, lol. I WILL PAY EXTRA for a sun roof
>>97700584Depends how tough it is (i understand cockpit "glass" is actually thick transparent aluminum or somesuch) and how often i have to shoot at helicopters
>>97700587using the render is bullshit, the physical mini does not have clean lines like that, no one is ever getting that strut before the last tiny section of glass.
>>97700592It's not that small, you just paint the cockpit first (which will spill over), then touch up the strut using a teeny tiny brush tip.
>>97700554The mechwarrior had it customized to increase visibility, same reason I remove the headrests from the back seat of my car.
>>97700592>the physical mini does not have clean lines like thatThe metal version does, the details are cleaner than the plastic. Regardless of that, just gotta use a fine tipped brush and a steady hand.
>>97700592When I’m done with it there will be no strut, go ask my Warhammer.
>>97700599its not about size its the fact that the chinese producer CGL has hired doesn't produce sharp enough detail to even spot that strut.
>>97700439This does track, given that ships are routinely pumped full of seamen.
>>97700613I did it. Although as always, taking a close up picture highlights every flaw across the whole paint job and now I have to go around picking away at it.
>>97700554>>97700563>>97700659Yea, i fixed mine too. Thanks Battletech General for being autistic as fuck
>>97700711there's also the thud with the rac, the srm pack, and it comes with two different cockpit options.
>>97700757>it comes with two different cockpit options.That's because one of those is the Phoenix 3060's option cockpit.
>>97700403Unless you're a Soviet, of course
>>97700592
>>97700787Russians aren't people, so nobody cares what they think.
>>97700764blergh. thankfully it doesn't retard out like THAT, abomination, and still keeps the cockpit on the correct side, the RIGHT side of the mech.
What is the likeliness that the Taurian Concordant would have an Atlas in 3050?
>>97700926100%
Why DO BT models always come out looking melted compared to the very best painted works using GW models? Is the process really just that low-cost for BT models that it's impossible to make them look sharp?
>>97701088GW uses high impact polystyrene, CGL uses polyvinyl chloride. Hips is superior to pvc for sharp detail.
>>97701088>Is the process really just that low-cost for BT models that it's impossible to make them look sharp?Anon here >>97701126 is correct, but ultimately yes, your guess is also correct. You cannot have low cost models at GWs level of crisp detail. Physically cannot happen. Choose cheap or good.
>>97700399XXL's are expensive though. At 10 tonnes you can still get it up to 8/12 on a normal fusion engine and keep it below the 1 mill price tag with 4 tonnes to play with for armour and gun. Remember, once you get to 1.2 million c-bills there's literally no reason not to just buy a Locust and be done with it. The "IS Pseudo-Protomech" concept only works if you can keep the costs in the same ballpark region.Conversely, Endo-Steel and varying levels of FF are surprisingly cheap, a Small Cockpit saves a whole ton as well, and whilst an XL Gyro is relatively affordable, it only really saves you half a ton, so you could make an argument against it in the name of affordability.
>>97701241An ultralight is inherently going to be C-bill inefficient if you're planning on making it fight normal mechs. Protomechs can get away with things that an ultralight can't because Protomechs have weird rules that make them much harder to hit.
>>97701287That's ultimately why I decided the best route would be to make them attrition units. They're sub-1 mill. They're fast. They all run in, they offload all their one-shot ordinance, maybe throw a few punches and then run away to reload. Originally I was going to go with M-Pod's, but at the weights they have to work with RL10's are more efficient. Hell, if you downgrade the Pulse ML to an ERML then that gives you enough tonnage to add a MASC which would bring their speed up to 16 hexes every other turn, and the price cost is only 50k, compared to Superchargers which are something ridiculous like 6-700k.
>>97701170The Perry brothers, Victrix, North star, and a dozen others would disagree
>>97701170Unless you have a 3d printer of course
>>97700952K thnx
>>97699510Alpha Omnis?
>>97701669The dragon is gay
>>97700711>changing what you like to appease strangersOof, low test.
>>97701748Sometimes other people are right. It shows strength of character to admit when you are wrong.
>>97701631I am consistently amazed at how sharp the detail on my 3D prints are. I’ll never get tired of printing out a new sculpt and just having the whole thing look exactly as crisp as the model itself.
>>97701815This. Miniatures production for profit should be outlawed. That industry is dead and nothing of value was lost.
>>97694793Underrated post in a sea of shit posts. You have to post pics of the cat now.
>>97695176That is the 'high quality' part of their spiel, one can have a rage fit and throw the mini's against a wall (seen it happen with an epic imparator titan back in the day) and they are perfectly fine. If you are looking for high quality casts with sharp edges and lots of detail you are in the wrong place.
>>97696830I have outlived many a games publisher who were sure to be the next big thing and Warhammer killers.
>>97695548Muh superior Bandai plastic molding tech
>>97701919Is that the right size to be a horned owl?
>>97701669FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! YOU!!
>>97701170>>97701338Also Bandai...
>>97699508I'm playing solo aside from the few times I've roped in my wife to co-op, and I'm four sorties in. I was a bit worried at the outset about the icon-heavy card deck but you get used to it.I only have the 'Mechs from the AS and Scouring Sands box, but painting those have been fun too. Do you care about lore-accurate color schemes?
>>97701669Ragnar let me borrow your knife. It’s time for us to show these dragons how you really carve raw fish.
Put a bit more effort in.
>>97702050Kneeling pose makes it hard to see but the Gundam mini's are bigger than Battletech ones.
>>97702264>do you care about lore-accurate color schemes?I'm starting to. I didn't realize this was the "wrong" color scheme for these particular Jade Falcons until after I started painting but I like green and yellow so fuck it. The green is "St Ives Green" and a few drops of "Bounty Hunter Green" speed paint from the Battletech Army Painters set. It came out splotchy. I'm almost done the Maurader and then I'll start playing the game solo and with a friend.After this I plan to paint up some Lyran mechs
>>97702412oops, posted fogot to post the right crop. Anyway, when I don't go for lore-accurate schemes I end up with stuff like pimp daddy atlas
>>97701748Bro, if hatch isnt glass and the actual windshield isnt even painted than thats something i want correct.
*makes the best mech*
>>97702471So that thanks was not sarcastic?
Rest of the lance started
>>97702662The Merlin? I genuinely can’t think of any other OA mechs until the Ravens set up shop out there.
>>97703031>any other OA mechsLiterally the only other things they make in 3025 are the 3 bugs. It's why 2 of their 3 mech regiments are canonically solid bugs. I feel like the Robes may have helped them out with some Project Phoenix stuff though, like they got Ostroc production set up for the Taurians.
>>97703031There's the Night Hawk, which is what the Merlin manufacturer made back in ye olde times, but that's more of a star league mech and I don't know if the outworlds were allowed to keep any of the production runs. They made probably the best Bombardier variant, but they didn't make the base model and "the best Bombardier" is a very low bar.
>>97701668The original invasion omnis were actually designed for the Virtual World arcades first. This is why they have so many repeating parts and why the original TRO art is orthographic to make the 3D models. During that time, people claim the original omni prime variants before publication were more optimized and closer to the art, like the Madcat Prime actually having dual cERPPC's and smaller LRM racks.
>>97703031Yeah, the Merlin baby
>>97699490>all 17 clans spend months encircling the inner sphere and all hit at the same time, with the star adders being in chargeNow THAT would be kino
>>97702662>is supposed to be the irrelevant democratic faction>Still has a ruling familyShit bothers me way more than it should.
>>97703281Honestly had an idea for an alternate Clan Invasion that sought to encircle the Inner Sphere and then consistently cycle around it.
>>97703305It bothers him too...>if only you only knew how bad things really are.hpg
>>97702747It was a legit thanks. I want to paint my model correctly
>>97699490Just posting this so can enjoy the arguments.
Read through Outfoxed today. Decent read, I liked the main villain's characterization and most of the action was good, plus it did something I didn't expect but respect. Nothing groundbreaking, but competent.
another newfag here, posting my most recent finished model, the warhawk in the alpha strike box.I prefer the piranha designs for some battlemechs, so i was looking to find a place where i could buy some 3d printed models. I found a couple of shops on etsy with a lazy search, is there a good way to check the quality of a given's seller's/marketplace's prints?
>>97703440I honestly think the FWL would have just died near instantly if they were in the path of the clans. Their continued existence throughout the pre-jihad years honestly confuses me. Best I can work out their civil situation was such a mess that nobody actually (and rightly) ever considered them a legitimate threat compared to their other neighbours.It's actually a brilliant act of game theory on the galactic geopolitical level. Well, if it had been intentional anyway.
>>97703648The writers never had much idea of ehat to do with the FWL. At least they're finally eating good with the League's invasion of the Wolf Empire.
>>97703648The FWL are basically Lyrans militarily that have not consolidated their power. They're very powerful, super industrial, make great machines, just slow to move their forces or coordinate. Ironically, this never hurts the Bears who have this problem but worse.The Iron Guard show you just why they held onto their border with the Lyrans for so long, and the Anduriens and Oriente show why they chewed so much into the Caps, actually more than the Feddies.
>>97703648In the lead up to the clan invasion they had been undergoing reforms that made their military a lot better, and "under attack" is when it performs the best. Their biggest problem is a law that says provincial forces have to agree to be deployed anywhere but their own province, but those provinces being directly under attack means they have no option to avoid engaging. Most of the FWL's best manufacturing is towards the Steiner side of their space, so they'll still benefit from having one of the largest industrial bases in the inner sphere, backed up by Steiners and maybe Dracs.
>>97703664>At least they're finally eating good with the League's invasion of the Wolf Empire.Oh yeah, we finally get back some FWL planets that rolled over like bitches in 3142 despite being the most die hard burds. You know, those same planets that went full clanner faster than Apollo after it got Falcon-raped.
>>97703684You seem strangely aggressive. What are you mad about?
>>97703674Also, with the hogs fully intact, the Lyrans and Dracs would be a lot more comfortable sending more stuff down to fight clanners since that border is more or less secure with minimal forces on it.
>>97701919is it snap/push fit? or glue required?
>>97703800>What are you mad about?Sea Foxes, Comstar dying, Stoners doing stupid Stoner shit then not having the grace to be fully exterminated, Bears, ilClan being the Wolves, the Regulan War, the MoC princess taking the throne of the Capellan Confederation. Just a lot of late-DA and later plots, really. More irritated than mad. The combination of fiat and shit factchecking makes me not want to keep up on the new fluff so much, anymore. Not that it's a new problem, but the snowball of who is favored and who is getting fucked on top of that...Eh, you probably didn't want an honest answer, but you got one. May I interest you in any other 'tism to be found here at the bottom of the bottle on a Friday?
>>97704073I'll be real, I pretty much ignore Dark Age because I don't like it enough to try to make sense of it and it seems neither did the writers. Very little of it is relevant to ilClan, so I just follow ilClan without worrying about backstory
>>97703618>another newfagMan, where are we coming from? Are we all 40k refugees? I gave up 40kids when 10th dropped, but i was always doing Old World (fantasy) and Bolt Action. Just seems like there are alot of us (newfags)
>>97704157>Very little of it is relevant to ilClanNah, man. Take it from me who has read all the old shit. ilClan is nothing but Late-DA Part 2. Everything has been nothing but continuing previous plots that didn't wrap up from the 3130's-3140's. Wonder why the MAC left to go to the Combine? Well, our fair princess got appointed to head of Barton's Regiment (The GOAT) and begin to fuck everything up long ago, over a decade before people at the top were straight up executed. Wonder why Yori is such a Goobernator of the Combine? Every bit of that is laid out in the 3135 RotS Civil War. Jules being such an insufferable faggot and butting heads with Erik? Take a look at when Caleb killed Harrison and sent him to the Falcon front for a decade, then appointed Erik Prince's Champion. Wonder why the Wolf's Dragoon's joining the regular Wolves happened and then they had their sudden and inevitable betrayal? Literally an independent company of misfit Goon faggots provoking a near-civil-war in the unit. It's all so tiresome.
>>97704206Yeah, every time something like that comes up the books give me a quick explanation of what happened so I don't need to read books from twenty years ago, so following ilClan without reafing Dark Age works out fine.
>>97704228You don't actually understand it, though. Even the old Housebooks didn't just drop you in 3025. They went through the whole history up to that point.
>>97701910Good for you, anon.
>>97704000Digits checked.They are pushfit. I'm not at home atm but this weekend I will build a standing pose one and put it next to a Battletech mini for size comparison.
Anyone got that one image of the busty king crab mechwarrior? I wanted to find out who the artist was
>>97704239That's okay, I don't need to read a bunch of backstory to enjoy the "present" of fiction. I liked reading Beat To Quarters before I read Lieutenant Hornblower.
Second game of Aces done. Tunnel raid mission, and after the rough reception we got in the last mission we took no chances and basically rolled up in an Assault Lance ft. Locust, with me taking a 6L Emperor, Avatar R and 6M Stalker and my mate taking an Atlas, Phoenix Hawk and Locust. Weirdly when the Locust IIC reinforcement wave arrived we actually gave that thing more fear and respect than we gave the Summoner. That said, it does more damage than the Summoner so that would explain it.Avatar managed to redeem it's poor showing last game by spending this one round corners, going full 3 heat Alpha Strike obliterating things and then spending the next turn cooling off. My Stalker also had a moment of glory when it pumped a full 6 damage into the Summoner from almost long range.Next up, a Sneaking Mission.
Anyone have access to the old Battlecorps scenarios? I'm still looking for Lost Souls specifically.
Was the island off the coast of Australia that got blown up New Zealand?
>>97704798Please provide context for your query?
>>97704157Most of the events of ilclan being a direct result of something that happened during dark age makes dark age extremely relevant to ilclan.To not be relevant to ilclan a previous event would need to have no noticeable impact or consequence for the state of the universe by the time of ilclan, like the FWL-capellan border conflicts during the succession wars or the umayyad-castilian war in nueva castile.
>>97704831That's part of what I'm trying to remember. I think it was pre-Star League where some guy was trying to get some group to behave, so he had his warship blow up an island off the coast of Australia as a show of power of what Warships can do.
>>97704882>>97704798That was james mckenna using the first true warship to effectively stage a coup and inspire popular revolution, transforming the terran alliance into the terran hegemony.The islands were uninhabited, so they were not new zealand.
>>97704960Ah, alright. Thanks. I also forgot, did the Dreadnought use all it's cannons to hit that island, or just one?
>>97704981I don't believe it's specified.You'd probably need to find a pretty small island to be able to destroy it with just one NAC/20.
>>97705001Yeah, I was going to see if I could get a good idea on the size of the island from the number of guns used. Oh well.
Alright, riddle me this: How did the remenants of Kerensky's fleet manage to: colonize the pentagon worlds. Engage in war with one another. Flee AGAIN. Colonize the Clan Home Worlds. Not only maintain their high tech equipment BUT improve it and advance technology. Grow and prosper ALL WITH HAVING TO BUILD NEW factories, universities, laboratories, infustructure etc. All within 300 years. /btg/, you got some 'splaining to do.
>>97705061>how did the clans do a bunch of ridiculous bullshitBad writing.>all within 300 years.You'll love this, they did all of that within 20 years.
>>97704662I am very interested in seeing that image.
>>97704662
>>97704729Sounds like fun. I'm currently reading through the rules because I didn't retain enough last time to make proper sense of the training scenario. Feels like I'm in school where I want to do the assignment but my attention wanders.
>>97705115>anime piss anatomy slopand not even well executed. Yuck!
>>97705122>expecting good art in Battletech You don't belong here. Go back to 40k.
>>97705131That artstyle trancends genre and franchise. You would have to actually be a clueless virgin to think those tits could be anything but unfortunate, and is she wearing a diaper?
>>97705142Ah, the poor boy doesn't like the anime art style. How novel and forward thinking; you don't see this kind of discerning these days from the average crowd. Notice how he insists on disparaging the size of the breasts, but then also the audience as being both sexless and ignorant. Truly the critique of a remarkable aesthete.Amazing how he hasn't seen it for the past actual fucking decade its been around. If he'd been around to give his opinions then perhaps Battletech would be a much better place.
>>97705115Booba
>>97705197Hey get your facts straigh, pal. I never said I don't like anime art. I said I hate trash anime art.
>>97694594>marauder punch!
>>97704767There's a torrent floating around of battletech stuff that was current up to about a decade ago that has all the Battlecorps scenarios. I'd post Lost Souls but 4chan does not into pdfs anymore.
>>97705296
>>97705353I've been out of torrenting for about a decade now, but thanks anyway. Maybe you could drop them for Snord?
>>97705353NTA, but you can always upload it to cat box dot moe and then share the link.
>>97705386>Maybe you could drop them for Snord?Dropbox'd.
>>97705274There's no difference.
>>97705554Huzzah. It's kind of weird they weren't already in there, but I guess they're much lower priority than the stories.
>>30394909WHICH ONE OF YOU UTTER FAGS IS THIS?
>>97705641Godammit, I forgot the full linkage >>gif/30394909REGARDLESS YOU'RE STILL A FAGGOT
speaking of which, anybody got the new shrapnel? i'm really curious bout the hatchet atlas
>>97705641>>97705644>can't link shit properly>proving who is actually the newfagI bet you can't even triforce
>>97705675There's no hatchet atlas in there, just some new Falconer variants.
>>97705353It's been uploaded to the trove as a zip. Its in the main area.
Currently working on a star of Jade Falcon Delta Galaxy, still a WIP.
>>97705722shame. the cover tricked me then
>>97692905>Jade FalconsFaggot Parrots
>>97705061For all the hoity-toity stories about how the Clans were "always planned for" by FASA (in the same breath as "Wolf's Dragoons were ALWAYS Wolf Dragoons, no less), it gets painfully obvious as one delves through past lore that the concept of Kerensky's successors had no hard-baked image to it or the trials the SLDF endured in their absence. tl;dr they made shit up as they went and filled in details later
>>97694928Succ WarsSimple, crunchy, no tech race to speak of
>>97695574Shin Legion, my man
What's the Capellan PREMIER unit? Like how FWL have the Marik Militia, FS have the Davion Guards, DC have the Swords of Light, and LC have the Lyran Guards. Would it be the Capellan Hussars? Random mercenaries? I'd assume it's not the Death Commandos or Warrior Houses.
>>97705964*Maybe* not too sure desu. Could rock I guess but I'd rather do something more of a standard unit idk. Maybe I should do Shin Legion though, might the move
>>97705969Red Lancers are certainly up there, at least in the early material. McCarron's Armored Cavalry is a big one you missed. They have the kind of comic book villain plot armor where it doesn't matter how often they lose, they always get back to full strength in time to do some more crimes.
>>97706025Big MAC could be cool... I wish I was talented enough to do a CHROME scheme but I'd best stick with their later stuff
>>97703440>goes around the fucking Taurians FUCKING KEK
>>97703440>smoke jags vs taurians Oh god Turtle Bay would be a WEEKLY occurrence.
>>97706058Lot more nukes getting thrown around, too
>>97706058In a strange way I think the Taurians could actually beat the Jag if the clanners still stopped using their ships.Oh what nice advanced mech lance you have there, heres a dozen nukes fired from artillery and one particularly ballsy mortar team.
>>97705969Marik Militia are the gold standard generic line unit. Their premier unit is Free Worlds Guard.
>>97706356They only stopped using their warship grade weapons because nobody else was using such things, most importantly one of the other invading clans. A single nuke being used by the defenders would undo that bid and allow all clans to use ortillery again.
>>97706414Clan honor autism would limit them to ground based nukes instead of ship ones.And aint no one clan out nuking the Taurians, even if it is the jags.
>>97706055To be honest makes sense since the Taurians would be an irrelevant sideshow on the race to Terra. Notice though how the Falcons have taken a detour towards the Magistracy? We'd be seeing degeneracy levels beyond mortal comprehension!>>97706356Even if the Clans still use their warships Taurians do have a lot of small craft which could carry nukes. The Clans are going to start losing warships fast in that scenario since it only takes a few getting through if the Taurians don't decide to try and board them first.>>97706449Could be a worse scenario, Jags realize that the Taurians are just as fucking unhinged as they are and say they are off to fuck the Davions and before they can even finish the sentence the Taurians are offering to join forces.
>>97706525>makes sense since the Taurians would be an irrelevant sideshow on the race to TerraSomebody has never read the periphery campaign before the invasion. Clanners went way way out of their way for old Amaris targets not in the corridor. They'd do the same for the Taurians just on the Periphery rebellion grounds. They are that autistic about SL history.It'd be all "It's your fault the Great Usurper was able to take over! You took Kerensky away from Terra!">>97706356Buddy, they couldn't outnuke Hanson's Roughriders.
New bread when?
>>97706449>Clan honor autism would limit them to ground based nukes instead of ship ones.The moment the nukes fly, all of that "honor" is out the fucking window. The Jags would just outright sterilize planets systematically as they moved through Taurian space, and no amount of Space Texas autism is going to allow the cows to get anywhere near a victory.
>>97706769While the jags would order that, every other clan would jump them after the first world cleansing. They nearly got bogged down in challenges after wiping one city until the ilkhan told everyone to focus on the war. They hit a full world? Fuck em.
>>97704767https://www.mediafire.com/file/5vw2qh3pp5sf4eg/0451-Lost+Souls.pdf/fileThere you have Anon, enjoy.Also, i dropped the lastest Shrapnel issue in the folder.In other things, its nice to see some anons actually painting minis, but fuck me, we are getting colonized by CGL shills and troons.
>>97706817CGL is right. Criminals deserve death.
>>97706843Sure, let's see coleman hang for embezzlement then.
>>97706879It's not a crime to profit from the company you own. Kill yourself commie. Capitalism always wins.
>>97706817Ironically, CGL used to promote every single way to play the game back in the broke days. They even had the old Housebooks as free downloads to help people get into the lore and let you post any kind of Battletech mini on the forums, even unseen and fan sculpts. Then, they got popular, and started trying to kill the very things that kept them alive after Porchgate.
>>97706916decent bait
>>97706920Making money is the goal. Promoting the game helped then. Now it costs money that rightfully belongs to CGL. They're doing exactly the right thing.
New thread please. I'm sick of the autism in this one.
>>97706920>they got popularKek, take it easy there bucko, most wargamers (let's ot even go into the normie spehere) will still ask you "what is that?" if you ask them about Battletech (instead of calling it Mechwarrior)Calling Battletech "popular" is like calling NEA "famous"
>>97706959I'm not?Also, this is right now
>>97706984AFAIK you're just some namefag ITT and I've never heard of you anywhere else in any other context.
>>97706984
>>97706987isnt he just one of bottoms friends who bitches about his batreps being reported? iirc they shared a hotel room at a con once but those two things are all i know
>>97706996>shared a hotel roomi thought that was mca
>>97707001Who the fuck is that? This is getting out of hand.
>>97706588Anon there is several flaws in your argument. First Von Strang's world is directly in the path of the Clans. The Taurians are not in this scenario. Second if they are such students of Star League history then they'd know that the Taurians would be a war of attrition and something to conquer after they took Terra especially when the Capellan Confederation and Federated Suns are both wide open and offer far juicier targets.
>>97707021>First Von Strang's world is directly in the path of the Clans.I just posted that because it was hilarious. Now go look at where Apollo is in the same operation.>would be a war of attritionYou're thinking the Reunification War and NOT the New Vandenburg rebellion. Also, their modus operandi was to fuck the Periphery first which they did in 3049, and why they targeted the Oberons before hitting the IS proper.
>>97706959If I can find exclusive mech packs in Barns and Noble, it's beyond background noise.
>>97706987>newfag detected
>>97707081Plus even if the normies only know it as "MechWarrior" for them to recognize it *and* show interest in playing it at the flgs is further evidence
>>97707084Ive been playing battletech since the late 90's, ive only been ITT for a few years though and this is the only place that namefag has ever come up.
>>97707086Copium
>>97707092NEA posted all the time on the official forums in the 2000's, too. You would be familiar with him from being in basically any community but reddit. I remember him from my early LotB days when I was just there to get the old graybeards to sell me a couple unseens at ridiculous markup. My guess is you know him, but maybe not all his handles. Team Cincy in general has been legendary since at least 2007. The Gencon canon game results in the official forums were fucking nuts back in the day. Hell, I remember them getting the artillery drift rules changed even before the infantry targeting ones.
>>97707110Nobody cares about what some retarded boomers did.
>>97707071>look at where Apollo is in the same operation.Right next to Butte Hold, clearly the most important system and again straight in their invasion path direct towards Terra.>their modus operandi was to fuck the Periphery first which they did in 3049So why didn't they go straight for the Outworlds Alliance over invading the Combine first?
>>97707120>He thinks he's among fellow zoomers.You are in /tg/ on 4chan. You're the one not among his own zoomer kind.
>>97707125>Why didn't they invade the Spinward when they were coming from the Coreward?Totally different cardinal direction.
>>97707136And that's the exact same situation here with the Taurians. They'd be going in a direction they don't want to go.
>>97707110Yeah, before this general all my Battletech was exclusively IRL, it was only the coof plandemic that brought me here.I've learned ITT that the guy claims some fame from something that happened at some convention one time, but you do know that of the hundreds of thousands of global Battletech players, only a very small handful have ever attended conventions, much less ones in the USA specifically?
>>97707142lol, framed that way yeah, most battletech players dont need to purchase plane tickets and travel to find people willing to play with them.
>>97707149It was better then we did. Nothing has been worse than this game being successful and having a bigger player base.
>>97707142There's no 'claims'. You missed the equivalent of the battletech olympics for half a decade, where he and his buddies not only bodied the writers and other teams every fucking year, they got many rules changed by showing how they were broken. Entire scenarios were written and rewritten for them, and they still broke some of those. It was so ugly, they made them official demo team to keep them from skewing the scale. As a robe fan, it was delicious to watch them kick faggot bear and stoner ass against the will of TPTB. Then there's the nuclear Urbie canonized just to nuke the Kell Hounds and so many more things.There was a time when summer was the most exciting season of the year for Battletech. It's how it used to be, even back to the Gencons of old where they announced the 4th Succession War live. You know, before they gave up canon games for this milquetoast ilClan.
>>97707173So a competitive metagaming munchkin, no wonder he had to travel to conventions to play.The BMR is still fine if you exclude That Guy from your table.
>>97707188The irony is that their superpower was literally coordination, friendship, and knowledge of obscure rules. It's everyone else that tried to metagame them into the ground and failed. Fucking retard.
>>97707193Exploitation of rules, particularly obscure ones, is the fucking definition of metagaming and munchkin.You probably only fanboy these literal who's because you don't play.
I think I'm going to try for another pass of white/pink and yellow/green highlights on the freehand.
>>97707204No, man. I totally called the 'control roll every time you're hit in atmo' play at the battle of Dieron because I actually play and know how most of my Aero lawndarts. I killed a Leopard trying to land with my Thrush lance in the exact same tactic, once. The opponent being stupid when trying to reinforce with 20,000 BV over you for narrative bullshit is exactly when you outfuckingskill them.You're the one being a bitter faggot.
>>97707216Cope buddy, post mechs.And skip that urby, try something you've done recently, like in the last year or three.
Are there any mechs that use their JJs to quickly slide around the field like the MS-09?
>>97705781As part of a series of short stories about Ace Darwin that have been running in Shrapnel. Part of the story involves the lead up to the Solaris 3053 Class 6 finals, in which one, or apparently both, of the O'Bannon sisters will face off against Jason Bloch, who has customized his Atlas with a hatchet. The cover must be an illustration for the final installment of that storyline.
>>97707227>Implying I'm NEANot even close. I'm a nobody, but one that has been active since 2004, and in the franchise a decade longer than that. I have a whole two spare rooms full of mechs. What do you want to see, exactly?
>>97707267I assume you mean like WiGE in which case no unless you count LAMS?
>>97707267>MS-09Nothing really glides like a Dom except LAM's.
>>97707286>worshiping namefagsKek, loser.
>>97707336Ah, so it's trolling, now. I accept your defeat.
>>97707292LAMs aren't canon anyway. Anime bullshit doesn't belong in Battletech.
>>97707267A Spider probably could zoom low to the ground if it wanted to. It has enough maneuverability to juke into an entirely different hex along its route.
>>97707344>to cope with reality the anon creates a fantasy world
>>97704181>Just seems like there are alot of us (newfags)Not to sound like a corpo shill, but having product on Game Store shelves encourages having games.>>97707149>find people willing to play with them.He just posted the scenario his group is going to play...You are legitimately trolling if you say the Cincinnati Battletech Group is no games.
>>97707526Then why are the only game pictures posted these 10-20 year old ones?
>>97707205Not sure if I should do the green up a stage too.
>>97707003Map Campaign Anon. Lurk moar.
>>97707550Are you plannink to ink/pinwash the recesses? Because I think you've lost a lot of depth on your mechs.
>>97707532Because those are just the notable ones me and other Anons have saved.NEA might post some pics of the game he is probably playing right now, but unless something noteworthy happens it's just going to be Mechs on a game mat.
>>97707606>lost a lot of depthrecall that I am painting over a previous paintjob here, a yellow one which necessitates an extra layer beyond most colors to begin with.That is why I have gone with dark brown as a base and am putting so much effort into the freehand, the combination draws the eye away from the thicker than usual paint.
>>97707532You seem like a rude person.
>>97707622>recall that I am painting over a previous paintjob hereI haven't been following your progress, I just saw the pic and thought the mechs looked too flat.
I really like shields on centurions.
Steiner newfag here. I just received this Atlas from ebay, but im not sure what the model number it is. It has an srm 6 and a another 5 launcher in the front. I cant find it in Mekbay. Did i get a cheap bootleg?
>>97707876Plain old Atlas AS7-Dhttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/AtlasThe LRM launcher on the hip shoots four times per volley I guess, that’s just how the art has always depicted it.
>>97707943Oh okay. Hell yea, thanks anon. I was so confused
Newfag blogpost. I just found out Word of Blake creations like Revenant, Seraph, Archangel, Deva, Preta.I dig their animalistic-aggressive look, thats why I like clanner mechs too, but after checking out them in mekbay app I kinda confused cuz they seem underpowered/undergunned for their tonnage. Im missing simething here?Also how force made out those mechs listed above fare in games? I like idea of having expendable autonomus drones alongside my proper mechs.Also is there more like them? 3-4 legged mashines in WoB forces?
>>97706405Ah... I see... silly me thanks!
>>97708319You're mixing up two different WoB technologies. The Revenant drones were employed in massive numbers in their final defense of Terra. They're fully unmanned and were manufactured in massive numbers. The others are Manei Dominei, piloted by cybernetic pilots and testbeds for highly advanced weapon and control technologies. Designs vary, but the Celestials can be considered something of 'super omnimechs'.They were also employed by one of, if not the most genocidal and violent regimes to have ever existed in Inner Sphere history on a galactic quest for complete dominance and control. So if you're asking if your mercenary outfit can have them, Mother Base is going to catch a terminal case of 'independent observers".
Some bitch make a new bitch thread already, bitches.
Eventually Battle Armour just becomes 2 meter tall mechs lmfao
>>97708477That's 6 of them and they're not tracking ammo in Alpha Strike, so of course they'll do a boat load of damage.
>>97708484But anon, there's only one model per base?!
>>97708488>he doesn't know
>>97708488>(Sqd6)That is the stats for 6 Nephilim; hence also why they have the Alpha Strike tag of "CAR6", meaning "you can carry this if you have "ITX" (Infantry Transport X) of 6 or more".
>>97708504>>97708516It was a joke...
>>97708477Most people don't seem to realise how dangerous Manei Domini were tbhon. Stick 6 of these fuckers in Battle Armour, give 'em some of the heaviest, most advanced weapons BA infantry can carry and yeah, they're gonna be scary af
>>97708534I would say I'm sorry, but I legitimately just kinda stopped finding bits like this funny because we get actual arguments over dumb shit like this all the time.I had to fight to get two Leonidas per base to help sell my BA as being squads.
>>97708477WoB Domini infantry are fucking badass
>>97708565Those are fucking huge anon, I can fit three Fa Shih per base, maybe even 4 but I was lazy, using the IWM ones
>>97708596>>97708565Forgot to attach image. Haven't decided how to paint them yet unfortunately. Might bite the bullet in the end and paint my Capellan mechs camo since I can never decide what regiment to do them as
>>97708565Gotta print them if you want them to-scale
>>97708319The Celestial omnimechs unfortunately suffer from "new toy syndrome", i.e. having a lot of equipment that was new at the time and added more because it was new and cool, without much thought given to how efficient they were.That being said, there are still some solid configurations. The HPPC Archangel is scary because it's an extremely durable assault mech with two headcappers. Even more so if you run it lore-accurately with an elite pilot and a full set of cybernetics. It's not efficient since it would cost a ridiculous amount of BV, but having a 100 ton assault mech completely immune to all pilot damage and able to hit things at long range with a target number better than most people at short range it fun.
>>97708565>>97708596I headcanon that the Leonidas is just a big fucker and the Angel ECM not only inflates the cost of the suit, but requires a massive size investment as well.
>>97708627Y'know what? Fair enough!
>>97708477>EventuallyThe first batch of IS BA already had two that clearly must have been using cockpit setups, yes.
>>97708699fanart doesn't count
>>97708608>Not choosing 2nd MACYou bring dishonor on the Confederation!
>>97708608>not choosing Warrior House Dai Da Chi
>>97708794No art counts. Only rules matter.
>>97708445>>97708625I was thinking of using them in Alpha Strike and I pick mechs mostly by the rule of cool. WoB mech look crazy cool as well as those unmaned robots. Also >>97708571 tell more, cyber infantry fanatics make me erect.
>>97709192Just make sure your opponent knows you're going ahistorical on selections. Finding a Level II of Celestials across the table from me when I didn't expect it would probably be a justified crashout in a pick up game.
>>97708445Does make me wonder, were all the Celestials just put into a big old burning bin at the end of the Jihad? NOBODY wanted to salvage them at all? I guess I can see it, the same thing happened with most of the Amaris specific mechs like the Dragoon and Rampage after all.But there was still a fair number of WoB variants of normal mechs made. I'd be surprised if everybody just destroyed every 8S Banshee or 008 model King Crab instead of Salvaging those. Hell, we know a couple of the WoB non-Omni Mechs got renames and revamps afterwards, like Grand Crusader/Star Crusader, or the Nexus/Star Python.
>>97709288I assume the majority of surviving celestials disappeared with the shadow divisions that just vanished into the deep periphery with the erinyes.
>>97709288>Does make me wonder, were all the Celestials just put into a big old burning bin at the end of the Jihad?Yes. Read A Bonfire of Worlds. Yes, it was only the Celestials. Wobbies made most of the Project Phoenix stuff and nobody gave a fuck about that. The Manei Domini stuff got specially targeted because of the Stoners, who then kept all the data, anyway, and wound up making their own knockoffs later.
>>97709288>were all the Celestials just put into a big old burning bin at the end of the Jihad?Yes>NOBODY wanted to salvage them at all?No one wanted anything to do with WoB's mindfucky tech, not even the most depraved Clanner scientist that might risk getting their Clan marked for destruction in the attempt
>>97709288The problem is that even if you wanted to take the jihadi's megazords; they're all designed to be used by the MD and require their highly invasive cybernetic enhancements. Normal WOB battlemechs and WOB configurations were just unpopular, but joe mercenary is going to have a fucking hell of a time somehow getting a Preta to run and his reward for his efforts is cruising around in a mech that is pretty much a century on "shoot on sight the jihadi fuck".
>give mech a LB-X>give it only one ammo typeJust fucking give him an UAC instead then, fucking green turkey.
>>97709312Anon, you are allowed to carry cluster.
>>97709209What do you mean ahistorical? Celestials and Revenants dont belong together even if they are same faction?
>>97709305>>97709297>>97709294>>97709293Makes sense.Unlike some of the variants of the Grand Titan I'm casually glancing at.STOP RUINING MECHS BY GIVING THEM ER LARGE LASERS YOU MORONS. YOU ONLY HAVE 10 DOUBLE HEATSINKS. YOU ALREADY HAVE TWO LRM20'S WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GIVING THIS THING A PAIR OF THE MOST HEAT INEFFICIENT WEAPONS IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME ASIDE FROM COMEDY BOONDOGGLES LIKE BLAZERS OR HYPERLASERS!?!?
>>97709297>No one wanted anything to do with WoB's mindfucky techWhat's the roll to replace a cockpit.
>>97709312It's Clan Green Bird. If it annoys you, then there's a strong chances that's why they did it.
>>97709323Fun fact. The rare ones issued to WoB Militia did have their cockpits swapped to nonfucked ones.
>>97709323What's the roll to replace everything connected to that cockpit, cunt?
>>97709320He means if you aren't playing a Jihad game. Taking them in like 3145 would give your opponent a shock.
>All this Angular Crusade and no new thread.Blake's Blood! Somebody get on that.
>>97709334I assume that's part of the roll to replace a cockpit.
>>97709343>thinking any mod is so cheap*points and laughs in mechtech
>>97709350Any time an AC/20 salvo smashes through the canopy they effectively have to replace the cockpit anyway and they seem to manage it fine.
>>97709084Their scheme is alright, might do them>>97709064I might go with the Big MAC but if I were to do any of them it'd either be 1st (cuz looks like knights) or 5th (that shade of blue is my fav color)
>>97709360Anon, you need to read this book, and it will change your life.https://www.sarna.net/wiki/McCarron%27s_Armored_Cavalry_(scenario_pack)
>>97709365I'll check if it's in the trove up above, thanks for the recc
>>97709358You keep missing the point: if you stuffed your 'mech with specialized tech meant for that cockpit, and you want to bust down the cockpit to different tech, you'll need to take out all that other shit meant to be controlled by the tech in the original cockpit and replace it with shit the new cockpit can handle. Same principle as to why you don't scoop out an F-35's cockpit and replace it with an F-15's, despite both being jet planes.
New thread. >>>97709391
>>97709390When a 300mm APHE shell explodes in a cockpit there is no longer a cockpit.The techs have to go through absolutely every piece of equipment that interfaces with the cockpit, reconnect it to the new cockpit, make sure it works, etc. It's the same principle as a cockpit replacement.
