Omniscience edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97685494>TQWhat cards should be removed from Foundations for the 2029 release?
dead game lmao
>>97693339Basic lands.
>>97693339Are you ready for Marvel Heroes anons?
>TQ Remove all White cards from the game entirely
>>97693351I am looking forward to Through the Omenpaths 2.
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>>97693347true>>97693351I can't wait for the meltdowns>>97692902>lady gagaI hate modern mtg
Remove Omni. It never should’ve been reprinted in the first place because some kike on the color pie team wanted 5 years of free kikery.Also completely remove all current White Foundations choices and replace them with Armageddon, Balance, STP, In-universe Phasing and Mana Tithe
There's so many white board wipes in Standard right now.
Looking for some help because google is shitting the bed at this.I'm looking for a list of cube styles, NOT just types of drafts, to build a cube that's a little different than usual.I kind of like the idea that battlebox / danger room has with the lands being predetermined but don't want the shared deck part. If you have direct suggestions for something like that it would also be appreciated.
>>97693374Kill yourself slopfaggot.
Embrace tradition.Come back to Premodern, /tg/.Come back home.
>>97693474Awww, does da cwybaby need some fwied chicken?Yunky's signature 24 piece chicken bucket is sure to help with even the hangriest of cravings!
>>97693490Kek
>>97693474>>97693490Yunkymogged.
>>97693478I not going to
>>97693518Brazil is a metaphor for the world
>>97693478https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDWzBnOeFRcFuck off you Brazilian spammers. Buy an ad, make a pastebin with actual information, or make your own general. Stop spamming this general with your ads.
>>97693542Pre 2013 energy here, complete with missing sans blue
>>97693518>>97693530samefag
>>97693542this was made by a 14yo
>>97693518Why? Are you a Brazilian yourself? I'm so sorry.
Which artwork for Goryos?
>>97693567I think he is. No one cares that much about Brazil except Brazilians.
>>97693586
>>97693542>Siege Rhino colours>who?
>>97693588>>97693567Say hi to the discord for me.
>they actually think there are multiple people posting the crusade.jpg Premodern pasta>they keep thinking they are also Brazilian>they now think there's a discord>it's totally not just me all this timeLMAOActual LMAO.Holy fuck, man. Literally laughing my ass off at you schizo dumbasses.
>>97693616Due to Universe Beyond it is now the least represented color.
Embrace frugality.Come back to Pauper, /tg/.Schlep on back home
>>97693763Pauper is fucking DEAD. No one plays that shit.
>>97693777Less dead than standard
how we feeling about a fucking common, of all things, from the turtle set (blue artifact) tearing a new one over eternal formats and fagEDH alike?
>>97693542Boros and gruul are the transexual colors thoughbeit
>>97693558>complete with missing sans blueWe haven't gotten Universes Beyond: Undertale yet.
>>97693891I always figured that most trannies are left leaning so they wouldn't much care for the boros legion on accounts of them being cops.
>>97693936Epic, dude. Just epic.+1
>>97693923They favor the communistic Boros that protect the innocent based on emotion more than the American Azorius that condemns the innocent based on laws.
>>97693542This chart is the epitome of faggotry. What a fucking amount of wrong takes.
>>97693923The tranny I used to know played boros but mostly MUC. MUC is the real tranny color.
>>97693950>Hue tranny mad he keeps getting btfo
>>97693936>>97694088samefag
>>97693542>favorite mono is white, favorite duo is orzhov, favorite trio is abzan, favorite quad isn't even on the FUCKING LIST because they forgot Dune-Brood colors entirelyman I just hate having a blue identity
>>97694088You're a tranny. Also you're poor. Also likely hue yourself. Self hating one.
>>97693936so are you the monkey?
>macacos having a chimpoutone meme to crash the stonksone hue to rule em all
>>97694138poorfag sub-favela monkey
>>97693418Doesn't count, sorry kike
Why Premodern makes shitters so mad?
>>97694138I'm German. This isn't the standard, modern, pauper or legacy thread, you knuckle dragging retard.
>>97694177They can't afford the old cards and probably like eating slop.
>>97694177Not WOTC sponsored and some, though they love to complain and virtue signal how much they hate "JOTC," are too fixated at the teat to consider playing an "unofficial" format. It's the same rage you see against proxies, an instinctive desire to protect the company's bottom line.
>>97694177They prefer UBslop
>>97693560that's just the extent of gen z vocabulary.they're like 20 now and are going to keep talking like retarded children for the rest of their lives because their brains got raped by social media.
mtg namedropped in NYC vs Valve lawsuitIt's over bros we're moving to Nebraska permanently
>>97694195Makes sense
>>97693923Ah but you have to remember the Boros are also the Uwu Fluffy Girl coded guild because the main body is the all-female angels of *JUSTICE* (ex racial justice, environmental justice, restorative justice) which troonmunists think of as essentially opposite to "law" (azorius, exists to protect the kyriarchy). Nobody thinks much about the Wojek when talking Boros, which is sad.
Uh oh. Standard is 38% Izzet again... I'm really getting tired of seeing so much Izzet in every standard for the past two years.
I played Pauper tonight and had epic funNon-pauper status?
>>97694379also steam vents will be standard legal until 2029
>>97694177Brazilians only like pre because we stopped printing brazilian cards
>>97694342The guild leader is also a tranny self-insert
>>97694397Premodern is pretty good if you want a nostalgia format. There some decks you can get for a reasonable price in paper. It's really something that's most affordable on MTGO where the tix cost to something like dreadnought or mox diamond is much lower than in paper. It's fun if you have good group of people playing it and who allow proxies to let you play what you want without having to spend thousands of dollars. Standard is boring and still has far too large of a card pool and too short of a print cycle. It's just kinda boring at this point and infested by UB. I long for the days of ZEN/SOM to INN/RTR standard again. If they really wanted Extended, they should have brought it back instead of just turning Standard into Extended. JotC is failing to support standard like they had before they started spamming commander sets. Modern is still broken by Horizons and FIRE. Legacy is still the Show and Tell format with Emrakul and Force of Will format. That mirror match webm where the guy plays S&T and both of them put down Emrakul was pretty funny though because the guy who played S&T looks like he was going to cry. Old School is a meme. Vintage is still the Lurrus format. Not worth playing. Pioneer is dead and really has no reason to play. A terrible format really. From my estimation it's Draft if we get lucky and get a great draft set, Pauper, or Premodern. Standard might become good again in the distant future if JotC stays in business and actually tries to fix it by slowing down card production and focusing on quality instead of spamming out 50 sets per year. JotC really has to just dump commander and focus on standard in order to do so. Maybe stop it with the UB slop.
>>97693542BGW is junk
>>97694462>Vintage is still the Lurrus format. Not worth playing.
>>97693542Let's do the math>midwit edgelord morons = smug fedoralord retard faggots = Based>Boring Midwit Edgelords = Super Boring Faggots = Based but BoringAn interesting chart there.
>>97694470Letting power 9 in the format just makes it worse than legacy. Power 9 is only fun in Shandalar where your goal it to rape the AI's retard decks, not when you have to deal with someone winning turn one because they drew their stuff.
>>97694195the only ethical reason to get proxies is RL cards, every other card has an affordable (as far as disposable income hobbies go) version of iti am fine with premodern; in fact i believe pioneer and any further nonrotating formats are a mistake; the future is closing formats after a decade or so, prefire modern should be next to boom after a few years (i suspect around 2030)
>>97694493I’ll teach you about ethics, Rabbi Shekelberger
>>97694520pontificate only once AI has replaced all replaceable jobs and leave artists into the dust as they should be, which is the logical conclusion of your proxyfag brain
>>97694493>ethical reason to get proxies is RL cardsGetting a 15 cent piece of card board is perfectly ethical. The only ethical concerns are counterfeiting for the purpose of scamming someone or playing at an event that requires you have something printed by one of the printing houses JotC contracts. If you want to do something like Cube or play some old interesting formats with friends or with a dedicated play group and you all agree that proxies are fine are then there is nothing unethical about it. Printing proxies to use for play is like printing a poker deck to use to play poker. It doesn't change the game in any way. As long as the cards shuffle well and aren't marked no one really cares whether you bough the deck from a store or you used your personal printer.
>>97694542the purpose of proxies (as they were originally thought of back in the 1990s) is to be standins for cards you were going to buy later on; the intent has to be there and if you're not going to buy then that's not really proxying, now is it?now of course i'm not able to stop your printers and i'm not enough of a schizo to demand you to do that over the internet, rev up those printers, i really don't mindthe issue is that proxyfags who don't spend a dime nevertheless complain to wotc to stop UB and do this or that expecting to be taken seriously despite them being no more than F2Pfags shitting up /vg/, which is just peak hilarity
>>97694532>OY VEY GOYIM, we worked hard destroying everything you loved about this game and you WILL pay us what we think is a fair price!
>>97694581i pay for UB because i want mtg to be Weiss Schwarz and I couldn't be happier with FIN, cry more
JOTC won’t use AI for everything. If they did, the program would design fair and powerful white cards which kikes refuse to do.
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1rrdstv/gavin_verhey_in_full_drag_playing_commander/
>>97694593>JOTC won’t use AI for everythingif they get harry potter UB they'll use AI to replace the troons
>>97694590This
>>97694606Even Harry Potter artificial intelligence couldn’t make powerful white cards.
>>97694593Remind me why Ocelot Pride doesn't count?
>>97694596Drag UB when?
>>97694626Amulet Titan
>>97694626it doesn't count because you're talking to whiteschizo
>>97694664Because it’s not standard legal, retard. And even if it was, Lessons and Cub decks would shit all over it.
>>97694685ok whiteschizo
>>97694565I don't spend a penny on this game because it's shit and no amount of jewish lies from your mouth will convince me this game needs monetary support when you have pigs eating slop all day.
>>97694707us pigs win btw
>>97694565We don't need jotc, we will proxy 100% of the cards and we will have fun, wotc won't see a penny ever again.
>>97693489Hope you see this. I can only speak for OG or retro prints (if there is no original old frame version) of most cards>DualsRon's BM LANDS 1 - Tundra, Badlands, Tropical Island, Volcanic Island, Plateau^Italian >~= German >> French (In terms of accuracy)FWB > FBB (because it's cheaper for reals)It's also fine to get the BM LANDS 1 versions of the following, but the option is there if you want EnglishUsea Revised - Taiga, Bayou, Underground Sea, Scrubland, SavannahUse recently updated his Tropical Island and it's acceptable but not perfect>FetchesUsea's fetches are good but the symbol is a bit odd, like it's low resolution or something. They're good apart from that and I've not had any issues with BL's either.>ShocksUsea's retro ones are good and I think BL's are too. All of the cards in BL Regular JP are abnormally good relative to his usual releases for some reason>Force of Will, WastelandPic rel>TabernacleUsea Italian>Sol LandsUseaReally, I could be here for ages typing out info. Do you have any specific decks you're looking at? I can't comment on EDH or Modern because both are sick formats that I have no interest in, but I can help you with whatever Legacy deck you wish to build>>97694493Please explain how circumventing the horrid line-go-up stock market is unethical lmao
>>97694749ok cool and then i'll have the game i want in turn, np at all
>>97694752>Please explainlet me guess, you think artists and voice actors should be paid despite AI
>gavin dresses up in drag>1 (you)
>>97694565>standins for cards you were going to buy later onWhen Magic cards were $20 at best it was a reasonable sentiment. But now that those $20 cards can be as much as tens of thousands of dollars it's quite unreasonable. And even with or without "reserve" list there are still $50+ cards and that's just absurdly expensive.> proxyfags who don't spend a dime nevertheless complain to wotc to stop UBMaybe if JotC printed the cards those guys wanted for a reasonable price they would buy them. Sure you can buy the Onslaught fetches for $120 each or you can buy the $12 version that came from one of the reprints. Not too unreasonable. At the same time there's something like Force of Will, a Legacy staple, where there's not a big difference in price between the original in good condition and the newer one. Very unreasonable pricing. Needs more aggressive reprints if they want to really support their formats to make sure they second hand market isn't this absurdly priced. If not, why even bother having Legacy or whatever?
>>97694688>no rebuttal to facts>”hurr durr schizo!!1!-!”I accept your concession and retardation, kike
>>97694877>as much as tens of thousands of dollarsthose are RL cards which are by every sense of the word memorabilia and not "game pieces"i have no problem proxying them, because wotc refuses to print to demand despite willingness from the customer to pay, no different from people being forced to emulate obscure nintendo games that nintendo refuses to rerelease>the arbitrary dollar amount argumentI could say 1 cent is the only reasonable amount to pay for cardboard, are you supposed to take me seriously now? lol>And even with or without "reserve" list there are still $50+ cards and that's just absurdly expensive.that's not "absurdly expensive at all", $500 is well within an average white person's disposable income that could easily be spent on AAA games or gacha games or some other hobby, at least with mtg you can say you own your cardboard>Very unreasonable pricingat a certain point you have to draw the line at poorfags, sorry but if you're experiencing sticker shock at mtg's prices i assure you there are other more expensive hobbies and maybe mtg is just not the game for you to give your hot takes on
>>97694197Turtles is double MTG adjacent!>>97694436She like all angels (except defective ones) are females.>>97694606People can separate trans mass shooters than "normal" trans... I guess it is mostly an IQ thing.
Any MTGO Legacy League players here?It seems fun and I watch a lot of legacy content but I don't really want to spend money on digital cards
>>97694685Have you ever considered not being a Standardcuck?
>>97694974>"normal" transno such thingthey are all mentally ill, some are just less violent
>>97694937>memorabilia and not "game pieces"Legal in Legacy. Legacy is an official format. Therefore they're still game pieces. Legal in commander as well. An entire format of MTG that is too expensive to play for most new players yet JotC does nothing to support them. And of course any Wizards Playstore events in any format have to use official printings. If it's still legal in at least one sanctioned format, it should be reprinted or proxies are not a concern. >that's not "absurdly expensive at all", $500 is well within an average white person'sStandard decks used to be something like $150-200 during the peak of standard. Now they're all at $500. When looking at formats like modern, legacy, or vintage, it is often well outside of the $500 range. Moreover the $500 price must account for the need to pay to play at sanctioned events which was the appeal of standard and such FNM formats since you could go to a card shop and play people in constructed way and not come across some obscure things that someone spent a few thousand dollars on to get or only has because they got lucky in a booster back in the day when that stuff was printed. >1 cent is the only reasonable amount to pay for cardboard>>$50+ cards >that's not "absurdly expensive at all"You kinda argue against your own points there.
playpremodern
>>97694974Define defective
>>97694991i can use memorabilia as paper weight, doesn't make them "actual" paper weight, people choosing to slowly destroy their duals with shuffling has nothing to do with what they have effectively become>An entire format of MTG that is too expensive to play for most new players yet JotC does nothing to support them.the reserved list was a mistake and should have never happened, yesbut what you're really arguing is that wotc should make an exception to MTR 3.4 and allow proxies of RL cards, and i agree with you on that, but alas i have yet to see a proxyfag make this argument>GPUs used to be something like $150-200 during the peak of standard. Now they're all at $500.wow am I in /g/ all of a sudden? lol>You kinda argue against your own points there.no i don't because you misunderstand that it's the market that dictates prices, what you're arguing for is no different from some banana republic dictating all prices *cough* commie
>>97694462Why play Show and Tell when you can play Legion's Landing?
>>97695107>146 TIXS&T is twice that btw
>>97695029They should just make gold border proxies or classic decks and allow them in vintage tournaments. Actually they should just start making the gold border championship decks again in general, those were great. Wizards gets money for the cards, Vintage becomes more accessible to new players, and old heads and collectors don't lose out on their house down payments on cardboard. I still have my Kai Budde '99 deck and a sealed Brian Hacker white deck with a VHS of the tournament.
>>97693339>still linking to fucking xitter posts in the OP
>>97695181eat the slop pig
>>97695194But I don't use twitter?
I can't believe you Transphobic Racist Bigots haven't made a Bluesky account yet
I only use Threads.
I've never owned a playmat but now I'm wondering if I should get one for paper tournaments to look more pro.
>>97695232I don't use playmats. I also don't use card sleeves, even when I use double faced cards. It's not illegal, they don't want you to know this.
>>97695238>I like to destroy my cards over time
>>97695260>Um, yes Goyim my cards are worth exactly the same as the day I opened them because I put them in a magical plastic wrap that collects debris and dirt and smears them all over the cards constantly because I don't replace or clean the sleeves.
>>97695275holy retard
>>97695283Go try and sell a different Goyim your worthless product.
god the Lantern Control guy is such a gross looking annoying weirdo but I'd feel bad if I cyberbullied him because he seems so terminally homeschooled
>>97695321Do you mean Fateseal? He seemed fairly normal when he spoke in the oops d*scord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqmmTnwdLVI&t=2sThis is who designs your game. How does that make you feel?
Pitch me a set. Story, themes, mechanics, whatever. Go wild
>>97695707>Who radicalized you?>You.
I know there's probably better examples of this but it seems every standard UB has two cards that make this guy go nuts.
>>97695776He goes off with draft chaff. Every set has combat tricks for limited formats, and there are many, many combat tricks that make him fuck
>be me>wanna play premodern, like the good ol'days>"no anon, in this format we follow the new rules!">huh?>"damage DOESN'T go on the stack">"and the old legend rule is gone as well :^]"dropped
This set grew on meThe draft is super fun, first time Izzet is "comfort zone" pick for me in draft.
>>97695885goddamn traitor
>>97695885would
>>97695849ok boomer
>>97695725>Omenpaths are part of the setting now>an Omenpath opens up between Ixalan and Ikoria>Kaiju are coming in through the Omenpath, as well as mutagenic crystals. Dinosaurs are at risk of extinction, until they start turning into freakish behemoths too>Themes are natural disasters and environment catastrophe>set theme mechanic is Apex. It's a status like suspected, it gives menace and +1/+1. Maybe +2/+2 but that would probably come out worse in playtesting.>when one of your creatures gets the Apex status, every other creature you control loses it.>as the environment constantly shifts and new creatures appear daily, who's on top of the food chain is on shuffle>maybe also some sort of pollution mechanic, but players get upset if you fuck with their lands >especially if you pay homage to the original Ikoria with lots of tricolor cards
>>97695725Return to IkoriaFutureThey had to build giant robots to fight giant monsters
>>97695942A shame they never made a sequel to that. Then again it's probably for the best.
>>97695937shhhiiiiiitt senpai, you should apply to wotc™®©.your idea is soo goddamn retarded they/then might actually not only recruit you but straight up promote you to lead writer.
>>97695950I mean they made, and it was fucking shit.
Presented without comment>>97695849Middle School uses era appropriate rules and is the dominant closed format played in Japan. I suspect Berlin chose to use modern rules to make it easier for new players to get intohttps://www.hareruyamtg.com/en/deck/result?pageSize=&eventName=&formats%5B23%5D=23&archetypeIds=&dateFrom=2025%2F09%2F08&dateTo=&capacityFrom=&capacityTo=&card=&player=&eventName=&grades=grades&public_status=private
>>97695885>"Maybe viral marketing will work this time!"No.
>>97696056I guess you live in the timeline where the tsukihime anime exists too huh?
>>97696056You know that you can just not accept that something happened, right?Like i did.Pacific Rim 2 never happened Dexter seasons 5 and 6 never happened Daredevil season 2 had only 6 episodesThe defenders never happened.
>>97696079>>97696093I'm sorry I was not familiar with your 'merely pretending' game. My apologies.
I can't believe none of you noticed you were talking to the larperkike instead of me these past few days while I've been on vacation. No wonder Nosewater and Gavin Verhey get away with gaslighting you stupid fucks so much. Rope them, then rope yourselves.
Welcome back.Sad to see you go.
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>>97696276>I don't play magic btw, I just eat the slop
No idea why you hate this set so much, wotc brought sexy back
I can proxy sexy.
>>97696326can you proxy a girlfriend?can you proxy not dissapointed parents?can you proxy a life?fucking loser
>>97696335yesyesyes
>>97696276>dies instead of leaveswtf, this is unplayable, it isn't 2025 anymore
>>97696335>can you proxy a girlfriend?>can you proxy not dissapointed parents?>can you proxy a life?All questions answered with "yes" by the existence of blow-up dolls.
>>97696108sorry to say but larperkike is funner than you
>>97696409>t. larper-kike
>>97693339Hot take: ELD & WOE had pretty card art.
>>97696523sub-zero take
>>97696523WOE seemed more gaudy to me.
Honestly, damage on the stack and mana burn would filter out a ton of these retards who love UB. Also revert the new rule about attackers and assigning damage to blockers.
>>97696641>I want defenders to have a total advantage instead of just mostly one
>>97696076>Middle SchoolThey better only allow original printings or else they're not real autists
>>97696641>"we filtered them out!" say the UWfag as he reverts to old rules and hides in his little corner
>UB tards already seething at the very mention of true Magic ruleslol what a bunch of bitches
>>97696076I'm going to bring a Middle School deck next time I'm there but man I don't understand how anything is supposed to beat Dreadnought with Force of Will legal.
>>97696739Jokes on you ante is the only real way to play and now that we live with proxies all the more people have no reason to chicken out
>>97696641So I have talked with some old school guys and I asked them to explain how games typically played with damage on the stack and mana burn. Now feel free to correct me but I was told that mana burn barely came up in games and that damage on the stack was too rulesy in an environment where getting new players to learn the stack was a slight challenge. Now as much as I find the idea of mana burn appealing I can see why it’s gone. I played starting with the time spiral block and can’t necessarily speak to damage on the stack. I do appreciate creature combat though and do think that defenders had too much of an advantage.
>>97696747Japan is a very insular country, a lot of things can work only there and nowhere else, their brand of mtg autism included
>>97696808Ante would be fun for a league
>>97695029>i can use memorabilia as paper weight, doesn't make them "actual" paper weightYou are forgetting that MTG cards are legal game pieces and can be played with. Your sentiment about them does not affect what they >what they have effectively becomeNot at all. In practice they are still used in both officially sanctioned and unofficially sanctioned tournaments. Pick a random legacy deck and look at it. You'll find that if it has two or more colors it will always be running dual lands. This is idiotic. Unless JotC says "reserved list cards are not legal in any official format" you cannot say that they are just memorabilia. Objectively they are still game pieces and people are allowed to play with them. >but what you're really arguing is that wotc should make an exception to MTR 3.4 and allow proxies of RL cardsJotC does not have to make an exception. In my initial statement is:>The only ethical concerns are counterfeiting for the purpose of scamming someone or playing at an event that requires you have something printed by one of the printing houses JotC contracts.I have not argued for JotC to allow cards in officially sanctioned events using DCI. I'm only arguing that your sentiment is outdated and retarded for all play outside of those events. You should not be worrying about someone paying a guy with a printer $100 to proxy a few deck to play with his friends outside of official events. It is perfectly ethical as long as the people you're playing with or the people running unofficial event say its allowed. This is you trying to put words in my mouth which is fallacious on your part.
>>97696808ante really adds nothing to the game except stakes>but now people can't chicken out because proxiesok? you won/lost something without any valueJust say you want to use ante cards because they're busted
>>97696859>no i dont want to admit that i want to use proxies so i can use busted cards i can't affordHahaha
>making fun of people for not buying a piece of cardboard for 50 buckssoupa de macaco
>>97694991>>GPUs used to be something like $150-200 during the peak of standard. Now they're all at $500.We're talking about cardboard squares with ink. Not some extremely complicated technical components which can require $500,000,000 machines to produce and specific technical components that a handful of companies are buying up. The two are not comparable in this aspect. The scarcity of cardboad and ink is entirely artificial.>the market that dictates pricesJotC determines availability on the market. JotC can flood the market with cheap reprints for everything anyone wants to play. It simply has to contract a printing house to do so and the printing house can do so fairly cheaply. >what you're arguing for is no different from some banana republic dictating all pricesAbsolutely not. If you had a brain you'd know this. This is sort of an exhibition of mental inadequacy on your part that you don't have the intellectual nuance to understand things. JotC can readily make lots of reprints of old game pieces that people are actively playing. Just some way for newer players to get staple game pieces without having to pay excessive amounts of money for these legal game pieces in many formats, both official and unofficial. JotC can easily provide those ways. It can be done in the same way as Dominaria remastered with booster packs or a From the Vaults type of thing. As long as there is something to provide new players who don't want to go full paypig and have to contended with the excessive price bloat of the second-hand market for game pieces.
>>97696858Alass your autism blinds you why i said "game pieces" in quotation marks, clearly nuance isnt your strong suit>You should not be worrying about someone paying a guy with a printer $100 to proxy a few decks to play>aka if the card didnt come out of wotc's printers it's ok>but if the card is a custom card that didnt come out of wotc's r&d it's totally wrongPeople are free to play whatever imaginary format they want with fake card and totally new cards they thought up however they want and i cant stop them, you seem to insist that i should take them seriously though, which ofc you completely missIt's like a 100% fully proxied cedh that gives out real cards and not money for prizes - a complete farce
>>97696894cope thirdie poorfag
>>97696894>$50I play with proxies of $1000-$3000 cards in my deck in sanctioned tournaments lol
>>97696926>i paid for proxies to chest when i can just cheat for freeLaughs in bertoncini and saito
>>97696921>backtracks>makes no argumentsI accept your concession.
>>97696933I never cheat. I'm better at this game than everyone else so I don't need to (which helps the believability).
>>97696954>say it's not ethical to use proxies other than RL because people still pretend to have a say in the game when that's only reserved for paying customers (that'a why there's UB and SL)>prove my point>....uh you backtracked!Kekw
>>97695776enlarge that dude
>>97697053that's a great cat right there
>97696973>>say it's not ethical to use proxies other than RLAgain, I will repeat. I only presented two cases where proxying is unethical. It is only unethical to use proxies when you are playing at an event where the organizer requires you to use non-proxies. The only other case where proxying is unethical when someone produces a produce in an attempt to scam another person. Anything else is free game and depends entirely on the event or people you're playing with.>people proxying cards that JotC refuses to reprint is why JotC makes UB and SLLMAO. Imagine being this retarded. The reason UB exists is because JotC wants to expand their customer base in the short term by appealing to people who otherwise may not get into MTG. Yet if JotC prints MTG Final Fantasy or MTG spiderman they might get some customers who buy just for that. Even prior to FIRE there was no problem for JotC to make any money. People still ran proxies for things like cubes, to avoid move cards around, and so on. But still somehow didn't need to introduce UB until Chris Cocks decided he wanted to get JotC to prop up Hasbro because all of Hasbro's other subsidiaries are tanking and JotC was the only one making a profit. JotC does not necessarily profit from second trades and sales unless it decides to purposely print cards to "personally" sell on the second hand market. JotC mostly profits from printing and sell new card or whatever else they're producing. JotC's goal here is to introduce a product they believe would sell well enough to make a profit. JotC did UB because it thought it could sell UB and make a profit from it. JotC did not do UB because someone decided to proxy a soul ring or something else like that.
>>97697053Clearly traced art, stolen from the feline invasion of Pelagia.
Remember; anyone making fun of others not wasting money is either a seller/scalper or actually poor.
>>97697064mine's bigger
nyan~
>>97697067>still missing the point againIsnt it hilarious that proxyfags like you have all these hot takes and demand you be taken seriously when not only do you not spend on the game you dont even know the full state of hasbro? Taking proxyfags seriously is a crime and it's one's ethical duty to put them in their place as the F2Pfags they truly are>UB is just short term!Hahaha hasbro has been public in stating that they are pivoting to being an IP company instead of a toy company, and guess what all their IPs suck now, the only thing good in mtg are its mechanics its lore is dogshit, they are clearly aiming to be the fortnite of card games and UB is going to be for the long haul no matter what your schizo mind tells you
>>97694379What site is this?
>>97697113Based shill destroying poorfags. Exiling even.
>>97697132>shillI'm not even asking you to pay, i just want my Weiss Schwarz mtg lol
>>97697075too fat, taps itself
>>97697150literally me
>>97697142Why not just play that game then, you dumb nigger?
>>97697185Because mtg has the best mechanics and you seething is a nice bonusSee how mad you are even though you are playing for free? See how dumb you are that you think i pay for cards when i'm actually paying to create a vision and a message?Play my vision of the game or stay in your basement, doesnt matter to me at all, but i WILL get my waifus and there's nothing you can do about it retard hahaha
UB saved mtg.
>>97697205I'm not the anon you were talking to about proxies. I'm annoyed because you faggots want to fundamentally alter the game, and have been, disenfranchising players that have been with it since the beginning or near the beginning. Just another gay tourist.
>>97697240Yes we are fundamentally changing the game correctUnfortunately your kind doesnt pay while we do, there's a strong correlation between being a proxyfag and hating UBSo in a way your game is ripe for conquest and your gatekeeping is as feeble as ever, you werent even able to keep out mentally ill troons how much more animefags with deep pockets?
>>97697261Redditnigger, did you not read the first sentence of my post? You're wrong if you think it'll go solely in your direction though, they're trying to change Magic from a game into collectibles. People that've never played a game buy any UB bullshit they put out so long as it's a franchise they like. It won't be your anime game, it'll be retarded chimera. Have fun in the ashes.
>>97697278That requires me to be concerned by the decks and cards played and collected by folks other than myself.
>>97697278>i'm getting what i want>noooo you're actually not!!!What do i care about spiderman and other westoid shit? If i get my waifus i get my waifus, simple as, i'm already fine with proxyfag freeloaders so what's capeshit to me lol
>>97697285>round 1 of tournament >cast Hatsune Miku>opponent casts Mater from Cars>you respond with Priestess Kagome>they respond with Dwight from The OfficeYou can't run either. >>97697308Like I said, have fun in the ashes, tourist. Consume and keep on shining, you crazy faggot.
>>97693777>1k+ paupergeddon
>>97694976>Any MTGO Legacy League players here?me, some times when I feel like it>It seems fun and I watch a lot of legacy content but I don't really want to spend money on digital cardsthere is no solution around the money part, if you want to play MTGO you need to spend at least a little bit, but if you're a good and consistent player with a specific deck you like to play, you can rent the cards and cash out your earnings to go positive
>>97697318>he thinks i'm a tourist when i've been playing since revisedHaha stay mad i guess lol
>>97695849Old school and premodern should use time appropriate rules.Specially old school btw.Also be 100% proxy free original printing ONLY.This is how you ensure whiteness, there is a reason OS93/94 IS 90%+ white while premodern isn't.
>gachatrannies vs proxytards tribal warswhoever showed /v/ to normies should be sent to Brazil
>97697113>still no argumentsThanks for conceding again and making no posts. >UB is going to be for the long haul no matter whatUB is not going to retain any players in the long haul. >pivoting to being an IP companyWhy exactly is that? Because in the short term it's more profitable.
> This threadArmageddon,pass
>>97697425>denies hasbro's public statements>insists we will soon go back to the glory of troons and strong wahmen of mtg lore>can't even give a (You) after being btfo'dOh dearie me this passive agressiveness is only proof of the opposite
>97697451I have yet to be BTFO'd. Rather I'm not going to give you any (you)'s. Everything in big business is short term so the CEO can get his golden parachute. What are you going to do now? Pretend that CEOs don't lie as a profession?
Reject modernityCome back to monkey, /tg/
>>97697469>everything is only short term!Then mtg had a good 30+ year run, but all things have to end, it's now UB's turn and we'll also have around 30+ years, perfectly fair, are you going to cry now?
standard lostedh won
standard lowkirkenuinely cooking rn tho
I don't know what this means.
>>97697318I won't tho. I just came here to get my UB cards and leave the game to rot lmao stay mad
>>97697579modernmaxxers got absolutely standardmogged
>>97697593>>97697579fr fr uncs be trippin nocap
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
Playing Standard is literally cuck yourself to WotC
>>97697634What does that even mean?
>>97697646Think about it a little bit.
soulless vs soul
>>97697659Christ no, I have better things to do than trying to decipher your nuspeak.
>>97697676>literal trash vs solid creature
When it comes to buying singles, what's your price limit before just getting a proxy of it?
>>97697765$1
>>97697765>When it comes to buying singles, what's your price limit before just getting a proxy of it?1 cent above the price of a proxy.
>>976977651 wildcard
>Zoomer tries to lecture me on the history of premodern
>>97697765If I can't afford the card I don't use it.
dumb frogposter
>>97695321On the one hand he looks like an actual nerd you would find in your LGS pre-tumblr invasion, which is quaint, on the other hand he obnoxiously they/thems all his opponents so fuck him.
Is there any good reason why Crystalline, Quick, and Root sliver, or a modernize variant, haven't been made legal in modern?
>>97697840I asked them not to, as I find them yucky
>>97697905based magicGOD
>>97697840Asking for this is like asking for Priest of Titania to be added to Modern and oops they just added another blue Ragavan to the format
>>97695725Wall tribal set about warring city states, lots of Fortifications and an economy subtheme.
>>97697564Edh will die if they dont power creep multi color cards next mono color is too good now.
>>97697795Holy based
Why do premodern communities not allow proxies but allow gold bordered cards? Proxies bad, proxies from wotc printers with limited supplies good?
>>97698093Source?
>>97698105Portugal premodern national rulings, for example
>>97695725Girl Genius set, all Foglio art. Very similar in themes to that unset with the contraptions and mad science gimmicks.
>>97698093Flaunting your bling is an important aspect of these old formats and some players really don't like the idea of losing to a poorfag with fake bling.Golden borders are only tolerated for the sake of making the format more inviting.
>>97698120What tournaments allow proxies?
>>97698120>>97698093Because the TOs are fucking retarded. Wow great going start a biweekly premodern tourney on one of the poorest countries in europe with no proxies allowed. Worst thing is the fat fucking retards eating it up just to go play infinite monoblack and sleigh mirrors
huh
>>97695725Duskmourn but good. I'd really love it if Duskmourn was good.
Apropos nothing I really love Urza's VO in Arena. He sounds like an erudite asshole, it's pitch perfect.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjyil6X4bGY
>>97698202All unsanctioned tournaments dont need to follow MTR 3.4
>>97697336>if you're a good and consistent player with a specific deck you like to play, you can rent the cards and cash out your earnings to go positiveWell I'm a great Limited player but I haven't played Legacy since the countertop days.Building a deck for the local Legacy scene and the appeal of making the same deck on MTGO is that Leagues seem like by far the best practice (compared to finding people to play with irl, or Cockatrice or webcam matches).I want to get skilled and learn a bunch of matchups.
>>97697765when I started I only bought cards below 2€. couple years later I raised that to 5 and like once a year I treated myself with a 10€ cardnow after a decade I have stopped buying. only trading the cards that went up to new cheap ones that I want and can see going upidk if I'm ever gonna sell everything but I can't support wotc by spending directly anymore because of how they keep making unique cards in super limited products like scumbags
>>97698211>clerics are a deckI am now interested in your format.
>>97698275I mean if you have a legacy local scene I would absolutely tell you to go play that instead of MTGO, if you're still hungry for more, then I would recommend renting your deck online
>>97698358yea infinite life is good
>>97698391Hell yeah love clerics used to play this lil nigga back in the day. I wonder if its legal lol.
>>97698391holy shit i see it now. amazing. buying the cards right now. will post in a few weeks once everything is here.
>>97698391>>97698398>those cardsSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUL!
>>97698358>getting baited into playing a bad combo deck in premodernheh
>>97698423Baited? Please. It’s Clerics. The literal peak of creature type design. I’d rather lose playing the greatest premodern deck ever conceived than win with StifleSlop.
>>97698391>>97698398Onslaught was truly the height of MtG.
This game is so COOKED is unreal
>>97698398monoB clerics with that thing is better than the white clerics deck (probably not better then moneyball black though)
>>97698439>he justifies taking the bait and even goes in for seconds
>>97698507I am now buying mono black clerics as well.
>>97698515many are saying this
>>97698228Duskmourn should have been two sets. One that was all slashers and monsters and cultists (and no anachronisms), and a secondset that still had those but focused on survivors and glimmers.Also beasties don't just have skull faces under their masks, but something that slowly shifts over time, tailoring itself to the greatest fear of whatever human they latched onto. Beasties help people but are poisoned by being Valgavoth's creations
>>97698358Black, White and Black/White. The format honestly has a fuckton of diversity, and the sideboard options are extreme enough to let most things spike even the best decks after SB. Also worth noting, the best decks aren't incredibly consistent. It's totally possible and not uncommon to kill Dreadnought before they find their combo. Come on buddy, you'll have a great time.
>>97698564I could have done without the glimmers and the beasties and the gremlins. I don't need three flavors of cuddly shit from the creature feature/slasher horror plane. I mean if Innistrad had launched with porgs, mogwais, and care bears as three different creature types all packed into one set I think people should have been turned off.
Can we all just accept Premodern is right now the only way to enjoy this game? The rest is just garbage.
>>97698391Just looked up some lists looks like the only expensive cards are rotlung reanimator and rishadan port, the rest are under $.75 lol. Why is rotlung so expensive $5 is still too much.
>>97698710>the format honestly has a fuckton of diversitythis is a massive WEW from me man, incomplete land cycles and free counterspells keep the format pretty damn closed off. >niggas unironically think jackal pup is a playable card
>>97693351Why is it never DC Heroes? Batman is still popular, right?
>>97698732Closed formats are the future yesJust waiting for prefire modern to gain traction myself
>>97698727>I don't need three flavors of cuddly shit from the creature feature/slasher horror planetell that to the fishlipped retards working for wotc my brother-in-law recently started working for them and holy shit everything makes perfect sense now Without any hyperbole we're talking about someone who is on SSRIs, who incorporates "puppy play therapy" into his daily routine and refers to everything he likes as "gay coded". The moral of the story is anyone who cared about the themes in MTG should have fought tooth and nail to get on the team because now the people who did get to call the shots and worse hire the people who do the work.
>>97698710BW OU sucks, too much power creep
>>97698745The only problem with prefire is that fetches are still weirdly expensive. You wanna pay 300 bucks for a throwback deck's landbase?
Duskmourn should have been just a bunch of clowns, serial killers, glimmers, demons and nightmares wandering the Haunted House plane. Fuck Survivors, there should be only corpses.
>>97698873This but not glimmers, just clowns killing each other.
>>97698732IDK how people landed on Premodern, it's such an incomplete format. I get that the borders are sexy but its just a snapshot of a pretty miserable time in mtg history. It's kinda unfortunate that the games doesnt really fix itself for many years after scourge so if anything you the format might be better if it was a premillennial format. I personally would take any given modern format pre MH over premodern.
Did you guys watch the first episode of spell slayers? Drag queen magic hour.
>>97698860>why are lands that see play in every single format they are legal in expensive?
>>97698909how could i miss it? :Dim subscribed and did not forget to ring the bell!!also, FIRST!
>>97698912>lands that see play in every single format are expensiveYes, that is literally what I said.
>several LGS youtubers share their sales numbers>they are high>go to LGS>player count is abysmal even for cummander who the hell is buying all this product?
>>97698946why did you state the obvious?
>>97698946>yeah that's what i said>w8 did i say highly sought after lands being expensive are weird? Haha dont mind that it makes me sound really stupid...
>>97698958because its a problem for the adoption of a niche within a niche format, even if I think it has a lot of potential to break out of that paradigm. l2r
>>97698972>pioneer has no fetches that's why it's totally on fire right now
>>97698961oh i meant to type "wildly" not "weirdly" I now see why I'm getting this reaction
>>97698882>just clownsIt's a haunted house, not a circus tent.
>>97698981two different formats can have two different problemsare you even a sentient human being? what the fuck?
>>97698956the YouTubers
>>97698972>because its a problemfor you, poorfag.maybe, just maybe those formats aren't meant for you.ever thought about that?stay in your lane.
>>97698956Cummander fags. That's why this game is now all Cummander.
>>97698994Fetches arent even that expensive relatively speaking, especially if you're only going to commit to one deck and not complete all 10 fetches for the sake of it
>>97698989>It's a haunted house, not a circus tentand the difference is...?
>>97698909rollin'>1/2/3 1°>4/5/6 2°>7/8/9 3°>0 pick two :]
>>97698745>modern anything eww
>>97699049Wdym ewww tron is completely fair
>>97699066ok tron is cool the rest is eww
>>97698737Because only Batman is popular in DC. rest cast is straight up garbage nobody cares about
What color would batman be if he was a card and would bruce wayne be different?
>>97699266Esperchud
>>97699266Batman is esper because he is a disciplined martial artist, a man of science, and a control freak>wotc dont steal
>>97698860no but I'll buy counterfeit City of Traitors and Ancient Tombs that my opponent thinks are real for $2 each lol
>>97699033Genre.
>>97699045Bosco is mine stay the hell away from xir
>>97699266Black because his outfit is black
>>97699266orzov
>You want a good walker, but you need the bad thussy.
Superman is naya because he's FUCKING BORING
>>97698909Which one is Gavin?
>>97699266Azorius
>>97699398>looks too male! Put him into a dress and make it gay and lame!I love how androgynous work on wotc logic
>>97699422The middle right one their name is Gigi Wellplayed. Pretty cool right?
>>97698909Kill marry fuck ill go first. >kill>kill>kill>kill
>>97699521
>>97699560Now you must make it his wikipedia pic.
>>97699266Anyone that says anything but mono black is giving wotc way too much credit. They'll do the occam's razor answer.
>>97699029Enemy fetches are $20 bucks a pop is a lot to ask for a throwback format assuming you don't have them already
>>976992663/3FlashAt the end of your opponents turn put an insight counter on each creature they control, if Batman, Gotham Knight blocks or is blocked by a creature with 2 or more insight counters, he gains +2/+2 until the end of combat
>>97699839Hmm i wonder which is better>one Phyrexian Dreadnought at $200+ and rising which only sees real play in premodern>3 sets of fetches for around $200+ that you can use anywhere they are legal in>but i can't afford 3 sets of fetchesHow poor are you man seriously maybe you should look at some other hobbies like chess
>>97699942dreadnought
>paying 200 bucks for a couple cardsi've spent 2k in 2 years on cardboard and i am questioning my own sanityOn the other hand i dunno wtf to do with my money
Paupered hard tonight (deck cost: $50)Non-pauper status?
saw this at the LGSis it a sign to come home?
>>97699776JotC would release 3 different versions of him but the most popular and powerful would be tri-color so that commander players could make a Batman deck.In actuality Batman is probably every color other than green but the way he is portrayed in most comics is closer to Dega or Raka.
>>97700199Yes
>>97700199It's a sign the hues have brainwashed you.
>>97693474That's not UB slop you tard, it's a plain old custom card full of soul.
>>97700199It's a sign that your gonna have to leave for war in Persia.
We get Batman but its the next Batman.
>>97700426batman from wakanda lmaooo
>>97700040>On the other hand i dunno wtf to do with my moneyInvest it in well diversified Vanguard ETFs, or better yet send it to me. If you want mtg related stuff go watch Alpha Investments and invest in sealed shit.
>>97700477>invest in sealed shitI can't believe you are trying to rope anon into your pyramid scheme.
>>97700426>we get Thor but he buggin
>>97700482I don’t own sealed products. I own vanguard etfs. Arguably another pyramid scheme but at least it pays dividends.
>>97700477if i was an investmenttard i wouldn't have moneyand even millions ain't gonna make me tolerate normies
>>97700477>Alpha Investmentslove this crazy retard
>>97698736You know shit about the format, anon. >oh nooooo not every single deck is tier 1!There are many viable decks, obviously there are some that are more well supported than others, but that doesn't discount the fact that many rogue decks can compete. And Jackal Pup is great.
>We need more Black characters!make old characters as black>We need more LGBTmake old characters gay>We need more womangender bend charactersWill we have female-gay-black jace in planar chaos 2?
>>97693711I know what you are.
How the hell does this win
>>97700910cauldron familiar pings, probably
>>97700920Ostensibly. But what does looping myr retriever do here?
>>97700920It’s an ashnod deck that only uses retriever for value which seems insane to me
>>97700924I think anon is right, they're just playing retriever for value to basically act as another food. They're not looping retriever, they're chaining food with the cat.
>>97698398>I wonder if its legal lol.It's absolutely legal. Mono Black Clerics is a pretty strong deck.
>>97700199Come back home, /tg/.It's time.
>>97700934>>>>>>Mono Black Clerics is a pretty strong deck.>t. never played macaco modern
>>97700485Is the guy who wrote this secretly racist?
>>97701034that's just your average englishman in the yoo kay
>>97698439
>>97701034Nigga you buggin’
>>97700910After dumping the whole deck it goes infinite with lembas. Sac cat, gain 2 mana, sac lembas to cat, it returns, play another lembas which will draw you lembas etc etc
>>97700910By reducing the opponent's life total to 0.
>Universes Beyond: Magic: The Gathering Design Team Members
>>97701173Lilith Transbian1Legendary Creature - Self-Insert Human GamerWhen you cast this spell, draw seven cards.Haste, prowess, prowessWhenever you cast a noncreature spell, add one mana of any color.1/1
>>97700199A real crusader would have counseled you not to bear false witness
What anime girl should I have on the sleeves of my Creative Technique deck?>>97699334Are you playing MUD? Please share list if so, I didn't enjoy the deck much the first time I played it but I like sol land decks in legacy and vintage and would like to try it again
It has been 2 weeks since TMNT release and my LGS never gathered enough people to draft it.I think we are winning this round, UB hater bros
>>97701550>I think we are winning this round, UB hater brosNebraska.>*clap*Is.>*clap*Booming.>*clap*
>>97701550TMNT is a dead IP. Not sure what they expected.
Are you looking forward to SOS?
>>97701621a little bit, I want another magecraft card that wins the game with chain of smogbonus points if it's black or green
Sup anons im a pleb whos played a lot of arena and commander with proxies but I want to get into Paper Standard. Do people usually give their LGS a decklist, get whatever cards they can, and fill in the rest online or do they just get everything on tcgplayer.Thankies
>>97701621I didn't hate the original, so yeah. A palate cleanser after TMNT. Before OM2.
>>97701638First check if anyone even plays Standard in your LGS, to not get burned.
>>97701638>Sup anons im a pleb whos played a lot of arena and commander with proxies but I want to get into Paper StandardStupid idea. Don't do that. Standard is shit.
>>97701638>standardlollmao even
>>97701621Not exactly. I just want to get away from TMNT.
>>97701642I asked and standard is done once a week and gets 4-8 people and is stable
>>97701709Guess you found the standard heaven then.
>>97701621It just hit me that there's a nonzero chance Eriette (total GILF) will cameo in Strixhaven, so yeah, now I'm looking forward to it.
My drag name shall be: Nichol Boners Dragon PAWG.
>>97701753Nice thumbnail jackass
>>97701768My name isnt jackass its Nichol Boners Dragon PAWG
>>97701621It may have a monk in it, so I guess.
>>97701638What other formats do they play at your LGS? Standard is one of the most expensive formats because the decks are like $400 now and you need to update them or buy new ones a couple times a year.
>>97699942>just pay $200+ for a landbase>what are you poorwew
>>97701925"What? you can't buy expensive shit i sell? what are you a fucking commie? Buy the shit i sell or you're a bad person!"oldest trick in the bookbut only works on brown people like them
>>97701892>>97701647>>97701662I have 2 LGSes that are about equidistant to my place of work which is where I drive from to the LGS. One plays standard and commander and the other plays modern and commander. I have a couple of proxied commander decks but im sick of itso i want to branch out.Is Modern any better? The modern decks I saw are twice as expensive as standard but if the format is healthier and I dont have to buy new cards as often I guess I wouldnt mind. Its just that whichever choice I make Im fucking commited to it lol.
>>97701945start a pauper scene
Isn't high price usually rather a sign that there is no demand for the product?All these wannabe investors thinking product goes up in value for no reason won't make them magically sell their whole supply they've been hoarding.>"but if card is needed from a set then set price will go up"players will reasonably proxy and be alright with others proxying.Product price will go down because sellers are now competing with each others to sell their supply.If i spent a lot of money on one card, i sure as fuck am not going to play with it.All these unreasonable prices for cardboard only give people reasons to not play the game, either because of the prices or because they feel they'll be losing value by playing with expensive cardboard.Even fucking Un-sets are expensive for no real reason.TMNT and Spiderman displays are around 70-90 bucks because players are trying to get the new cards and making sellers compete for sales.Tarkir, Lorwyn, Avatar and foundations even start at 120Most other sets are 150+On the other hand, if i knew the prices of what WotC sells them to sellers, i could maybe figure out what the actual fuck goes on.
>>97702128I doubt the chances of that happening unfortunately. A year ago there was an ex-Modern player who started coming to one of the LGS and he didnt like commander or standard so he tried to get people to play his Vintage Cube. Tbh drafting it was the most fun ive had in mtg but every week it was just me, him, and whatever random plebs we could scrounge up who we would never see again. He gave up because everyone just wanted to play slopmander for the rest of eternity.
>>97702129>Isn't high price usually rather a sign that there is no demand for the product?I would think it's the opposite? If not enough people buy our shit, we need to lower prices to make it balance out by theoretical increase in sales?
>>97702150Prices spike because there is no demand and no competition amongst sellers to sell to consumers.High demand is always followed by lower prices.If you think about most industries, most can afford to buy stuff because there is high demand, thus companies are all in competition to try to sell their goods.When a producer/seller has product that is not demanded, the product will go up in price to make up for shelf/storage costs, when the actual smart way to make money is not to hoard, but to move product as much as possible.If you ain't selling, you ain't making money.
>>97702162it's the opposite, no?have product, no buyers = drop the pricehave product, many buyers= raise the price
>>97701945No, Modern is not better.The whole game is a fucking trashfire and a complete waste of money. You should play something else.
>>97701945Modern is twice as much up front but less of an investment over the years because your deck probably won't change much unless the meta kills it completely.But Modern players can be kind of tryhard and I'm not the biggest fan of the format. I keep a tier 1 deck just because sometimes it's the only game in town.Decks are so expensive now I can't recommend someone new jump buy into a competitive format unless they know they're going to love it (ie; you watch videos of people doing MTGO leagues of that format every day).
>>97702173It's how laymen think it works, but it's not how it works but it's the whole supply and demand game.When you have lots of products from lots of sellers, demand for the product doesn't raise the price.When you have way more demand than supply, that's when prices go up.It's a story as old as merchants; Most sellers raise their prices because they don't pay attention to the market as a whole but rather make their prices based on their own supplies, which makes them raise prices even more when the product is still sitting on their shelves because there is still "hope" that they will make profit off of it, but buyers aren't buying because they can get it at a better price somewhere else.In the economy, prices usually go up when people aren't buying enough, as it has always been the case with gasoline; when people fill up their cars, prices per gallon go down, when people don't price goes up.When a gas station has low supply, it raises prices so not many people come buy until they get their delivery, which after that prices tend to drop to get in customers and the whole game starts again next day.Prices drop or product goes on sale when the product HAS to be sold regardless of demand.In the case of MtG boxes; no one is ever going to sell shit regularly even if sellers have collectively decided to keep prices up, which keeps prices going up merely because other sellers think prices will go up once the cheaper supply gets bought, thus leading to a price inflation.This shit really can't be explained as simple as with a couple statements tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJAonMobwloblocks?
>>97702552>blocks?No blocks. Go to damage.
>>97702601You see, life link trigger goes on the stack. So when your life dops to zero. Then the game checks that your is at zero. You lose the game. Before life link trigger goes off.
I think another huge part of Blocks that has been lost, is just being able to fucking remember anything.When sets rip by you ten times a second, nothing becomes worth remembering. Giving parts of your IP time to settle into memories is a fairly important thing.
>>97702674lifelink is a trigger? dors it use the stack or is it instant?
>>97702712Lifelink is not a trigger and it raises you life total before the game checks if your dead so if lifelink makes you go above zero you do not lose. This guy is high or something.
>>97702552I'll be "blocking" this game out of my mind, if you catch my drift
>>97702712It used to work like that on arena. Would win games against life gain decks in that exact scenario Back when Ajani's Pride Mate was a unique design and you could have more than 250 tokens.
she is GORGEOUS
>>97702799Nu uh lifelink has never used the stack. If it did it was a glitch. You may have been using something that says whenever this creature deals damage gain that much life which is different and would use the stack
>>97702895Why are there so many trannies playing this game dude wtf. Are they the only ones retarded enough to buy a lot of product? Thats my theory its all scalpers and trannies now.
>>97702967Not a theory.You should also look up; aggressive mimicry. Trannies will make much more sense then.
>>97702967>why do people tend to get into the hobbies their friends are in??The incredible minds of /mtg/ at work
>trooner groomer porn gooner>piggies>having friendsi cast
>>97702712before lifelink was a keyword creatures like Exalted Angel had it as triggered abilities which used the stack
>>97703331>before lifelink was a keyword creatures like Exalted Angel had it as triggered abilities which used the stackWhich was vastly superior.
>old good>new bad
>>97703354Facts.
>>97703354This, but unironically.
>>97703351I mean I whined for years here when they made damage stop using the stack.. but lifegain working like it does is more intuitive for new players (who also happen to love lifegain) and stops them from getting dished feelsbad losses from unintuitive situations they don't really understand.
>>97703376>but lifegain working like it does is more intuitive for new playersCaring about newfags is how you destroy your game.This is a universal constant. Gatekeeping idiots is the universal path to long-term success.
>>97703388>Gatekeeping idiots is the universal path to long-term success.Only in your head. In capitalism success is measured in profit.
>>97703400>In capitalism success is measured in profit.By materialist idiots, maybe. Which, by the way, is the type of person you want to gatekeep.
Cant wait for strixhaven and this qtie back
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>>97703354proof?
>>97703416Witherbloom girls are the cutest, it's undeniable.
>>97703417>"Why yes, I am a materialist idiot."What did he mean by this?
>>97703501It doesn't matter who I am, what matters is who is in charge.
>>97703524>It doesn't matter who I am, what matters is who is in charge.You possess the spirit of a servant.
>>97703463There's not much competition in this game anymore.
>>97703416>>97703463She looks like she speaks in a funny accent.
>>97703572On the contrary, anon. I've not given them a dime for half a decade now.
premodern
Reminder that this is how Dina looked like originally, until they decided to pander to gooners.
>>97703653>On the contrary, anon. I've not given them a dime for half a decade now.Yet you still advocate on their behalf.Curious.
>>97703677>until they decided to pander to gooners.Themselves, anon.The developers are the gooners to which they are pandering.
>>97703677>97703677My Wife.
>>97703683I'm telling you how it is, how things work. Whether you decide to accept this, is up to you. I don't care either way. I don't have a horse in this race. I keep my fingers crossed for wotc to crash and burn and hasbro being forced to let them go free to minimize the losses.
>>97703697>>97703677forgot imageWhy would a girl whit skin that photosynthesizes wear clothes.
>>97703677jokes on you, I like trees even more
re: the dude in the previous thread:>spent $300 buying a couple powerful Legacy/Modern/Premodern decks from the Chinaman.they're good enough to take to tournaments without issue.now I'll actually have to go to paper tournaments though. wondering if I should have spent that on a year's MTGO deck rental subscription and played online._______________every time I think about wanting start amassing a good deck for paper magic I think of having to drive to some stupid game store that I've never been to (I move every few years) and deal with the most social retards and likely woke ritardando's that I would normally never interface withthen I boot up MTGO where I have something like time twister in my commander deck that if I owned on paper would be worth more than my beater car. and I can play any time and dont have to look at (or smell) retards. also MTGO handles +1/+1 counters much better. the prices overall being like 1/20 of paper prices (or significantly more, you can get black lotus for 42 tickets which is 42 USD) makes somewhat more accessible and you dont have to hav some greasy 350lb literal ogre homo saying "thats not a real card". or being interrogated even if you play something like a bayou with white borders that should be at max worth $40.. but not having the real cards and even shelling out 14 actual dollars for force of will or red elemental blast is pretty stupid too. ultimately every few years I feel like wanting to amass my paper deck, order a few cards and put them in a sealed tote with the rest of the unfinished grixis deck, go back to my completed one and spend maybe 40 bucks over the course of a month improving a deck and playing commander or Swiss drafts of the current set (except now theres no good sets). then I stop playing magic for another 2-4+ years. been doing that since like 2010
>>97703577holy shit this is a real card
>>97703762>nogames commander playerlol
>>97703698>I'm telling you how it is, how things work.Your assumption about how things work indicates your spiritual commitment to the material world, and indicates your lack of vision for superior things.Your assessment of how things work is shallow and soulless. You claim to not care either way, yet you've entrenched both your language and your psyche into surrender to the machine.You've been spiritually drained by the modern world. Wake up, friend. There are brighter ways to view things.
>>97703463>Witherbloom girls are the cutestWrong. Will Kenrith was Prismari.
>>97703786>>>97703577I dont know what that means. I play commander 1v1, I have a pauper deck and used to have another older format deck that was not competitive since it didnt have any power 9 other than time twister (or the 10th one bazaar of Baghdad that I do have)
Arcavios is a funny plane. Dragons on other planes either don't give a hoot or they make some token effort to conquer the place for themselves. The dragons of Arcavios looked at the state of their plane and decided they would have to tardwrangle their entire world for the rest of time. Cue Strixhaven.
>>97703285I just bought this card last night for a non-existent black white knight commander deck I woke up thinking about this morning.
>>97703819This thread has bots that get triggered every time the words "EDH" or "Commander" are mentioned.
>>97703819>I play commanderthere is an EDH thread, this one is for Magic
>>97693542I think this definitely fits me. my main commander deck is thraximundar red blue black. my main pauper deck is green black infect jank spam from scars of mirrodin. I also have a mono white lifegain deck with a win by having xx life total win con. I was also thinking of making a new white black knights commander deck. these descriptors all fit me
>>97703858I said I do Swiss drafts too (when there are good sets) normally but the state of tranny-magic has really reduced that outlook so its 1v1 commander for me. whats the hate on commander? when I first started in 2010 it wasn't a thing really IRL and only around 2012 maybe is when I made my first deck for it. now apparently its the "biggest way to play" magic which I guess makes senseive never been a standard player (other than swiss draft) and usually only ever played "normal magic" IRL kitchen table or with fun non competitive decks (mono white lifegain tribal knights or cats). now the main way to do that on MTGO is 1v1 commander despite having to tell them its "TIER 3 since I have chrome mox and mana vault which arent even OP cards"also when I want to play normal magic I just boot up a virtual machine and play the mana link duel thing from Shandalar to use the actual best cards
>>97703677God forbid we have young girls in this game
I also have two cockmanda decksi just play by myself and keep refining thembuilding decks makes me fucking diamonds, jack
>>97703945Have as seat over there. How old are you?
God forbid we have pretty adult women with a full and appealing bosom in our game of cards with picturesinstead we have the gays and the gays but woman mode and the gays but predator version
>>97703416Soon.
>>97704009Bigot spotted.
>>97703960this but me unironically. but I dont get sexual gratification from it but I will spend 5 or 6 hours looking up cards, conversing with gemini (who half the time gives incredible recommendations and the other half. play one or two matches 1v1v then go back to tweaking it. 3/4 of my actual MTGO time is deck building and buying from bots
>>97704056and the other half are complete shit)
>>97704054Can't be a bigot against ugly abominations.
>>97704056>I dont get sexual gratification from itgive it some time
>>97703416>>97703463>>97704014They better put her and Blex in SoS. There's no way they're only gonna put them in the commanderslop product, right?
>>97704014>Dryad DruidTry saying that five times quickly.
I HATE Strixhaven.
I think nonpermanent spells SUCK
>My opponent pointed out I am literally unable to win>I continued to play anyway to waste his time out of spite (he was playing blue so he was worse than Hitler and deserved it)>I angleshot a win and he got mad (why would anyone get angry at me, an honest monoR player?)Are all commander players really like this?
>>97704293Nobody *likes* Strixhaven. It's just a lamer version of Ravnica. But I like warlocks and Golgari.
>>97704314Yeah, coUnterspell players are not exactly the type of people they believe themselves to be.
>>97704014Wow wotc is making dina show THAT much skin around her necklace? Egads
>>97704303But what if the nonpermanent spell puts all your permanents into play?
>>97704317Nobody likes strixhaven because everyone knows it's just a harry potter expy, a hat set taken to its logical conclusion
>>97704326It’s allowed because she’s not white. And is barely any skin anyways.Look at what they did to Lulu. They covered her bosoms with plushies. And she’s not even white she’s asian. Wotc are such fucking man hating CUNTS.
>>97704314>Commander playersYes, listen to the vocaroo
>>97704346I think troons are all about it because it lets them feel like they are BTFO'ing normal people and JK Rowlingit will be hilarious when Upper Deck's Harry Potter license expires in 2027 and Hasbro directs Wizards to make a massive Harry Potter set (which will sell extremely well). The seething song of the troon groomers will be glorious. and hopefully lead to their max exodus and a return to normal Magic.
>>97704467I cant wait eitherThe shitposts about UB saving the game from troons would be glorious
>>97704314>he was playing blue so he was worse than Hitler and deserved itI watched the video and he said the guy was being rude for no reason, I would've done the same, if you want to be an asshole I will also be oneyou get what you get
>>97704467>We wuz abusive chemistry teachersThe troons are coming for HP
>>97704499I believe that's a biological male identifying as such.
>>97704314But he's playing draft???
>>97704314to be fair, blue players are in fact worse than hitlerI mainly play blue btw
A pro tour level player who plays at my LGS invited me to join his vintage cube group and I accepted. Most of the people in there are older guys who have retired from constructed play or similar high level competitive players. I expect to get plastered, but should I expect the gameplay to help me improve in constructed?A separate question, I wanted to clear out some old bulk - mostly around M13-M14 era with some premodern era stuff sprinkled in and basics - and have a coworker with two sons around 8 or something. I wanted to give the bulk to them. Are there any simple resources I can include with the cards so they can learn how to play, given that I've never met the kids and thus don't know how they would handle the game's rules, stack etc? I believe one of them is dyslexic and has mild ADHD symptoms. The family are kind of luddite farmer-y types, for example the only computers they have home are a work laptop and a school chromebook.
>>97704314Well what do I play if i legitimately want to be worse than Hitler?
>>97704633>family are kind of luddite farmer-y typesI'd be worried about them deciding to burn the cards or some shit. Though I imagine you wouldn't be considering it in the first place if that was a worry.
>>97704634blue, specifically mill
>>97704649Maybe luddite was the wrong word but I'm not sure how else to describe it. Think of a family constructed around a small rural town mindset where the father is a tradesman and the sons will grow up to be tradesmen, and the mother has explicitly stated that she doesn't want to get the kids a real computer because she would have to learn how to use it beyond business applications. They're not bad people and they're not religious but I do feel pretty awful for the kids being doomed to a life of mediocrity.
>>97704676>mediocrityThat's a bad way of looking at thingsNot everyone will be a ceo and every society needs dirty jobs to be done
>>97704633yeah you'll get better at Magic by learning Limited.Constructed players are generally shit at Magic outside of a very narrow part of it.
I actually want the dandan precon, its going to get scalped too?
What is their endgame?
It's wild they still don't sell gold border dandan and tournament decks. they should have gold border vintage, legacy, modern and standard worlds deck each year. too bad magic player prefer penis instead of balanced gameplay.Counted 12 attractive women in lorwyn.
>>97704841No endgame. Just mindfuckery.
>>97704841Idk but probs something with Duskmourn
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>>97693339Custom cards general when?
>>97704499Trannies did 9/11
>>97697794Fuck off furry
