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Southlands Auxiliaries Edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL

>Previous Thread
>>97682045

>Thread Question
What's the best Warhammer Fantasy book you've read? If you haven't read any, what's your favorite Fantasy Army Book.
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Asked the TQ partially because I don't know which of these would be the best to vote for?
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>>97695061
Heldenhammer was just reprinted and is available at book stores now in the Sigmar omnibus. Only assholes would vote for Heldenhammer

Blood of Aenarion and Bloodborn are both parts of series that have been reprinted in omnibus form before, and have a reasonable chance of being reprinted in omnibus form again.

So IMO the only responsible choices are Runefang and Sword of Justice, because both of those are standalone novels with the worst odds to get reprinted normally. Out of those two, I picked Runefang because I like Werner more than Wraight and I haven't read either.

If you pick Sword of Justice, you will simply cancel out my vote.

Therefore, you should vote for Runefang.
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>>97695126
Thank you for the input, I will vote for Runefang in that case.
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So which updated version of the channeling rules are you meant to use, the one from winds of magic or imperial archive III?

Lust inducing image for attention.
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If I deploy a unit of 36 infantry in a 6X6 block, and then add a character to it which naturally starts a 7th rank, does that unit transform them from combat order to a marching column?
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>>97695231
Yes. Remove one model from the unit and you will avoid this problem.
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>TQ

I really liked the fluff snippets from the 6th edition vampire counts and hordes of chaos books, which had small things like skaven wondering why humans bothered to bury their dead and thus waste food and a norscan casually explaining that they keep their chaos spawn locked up in a cave and see them as a sign of favour from the gods.
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>>97695045
>TQ
The Wine of Dreams is great. Less emphasis on heroics and is generally more subtle in how the story progresses. Old 5th/6th Ed lore though so zoomers might not get it. Otherwise the Conrad series, blackhearts, or Bretonnian Knights of the Realm are certainly worth the read.
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I fucking love the Warhammer RPG. I'm so used to DnD-lite, having a game where you want to avoid fights is really fun.
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>>97695145
Whatever suits your table, I only use the core book and it's all right for what we do.
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>>97693842
idk mostly just looks like contrast slopped on with heavy dybrushing
Nice basing though
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Rules question for the game: If I have a group that is marked with chaos undivided do I get to re-roll a failed test after having lost in a combat?
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>>97695909
No, only fear, panic or terror tests. Break tests are not covered.
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>>97695248
Oh shit does this mean i can meet my rank order bonus with a character too?
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Did they fuck up the order here because I swear the arm will NOT fit once the body is glued together
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>>97696272
who cares about chinkslop
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>>97696272
man I'm all in on kislev but building them is going to be a nightmare going off Cathay.
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>>97696286
I care so I can impress Chinese girls with my sinophilia
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>>97696297
I'm pretty sure the only girls you can impress with knowledge of historical warfare are anorexic bipolar german girls into ww2, neet argentinians, also morbidly into european fascism, and western african girls that have suspicious italian blood who still don't understand a thing of what you are saying but are happy at seeing you talking excitedly about something with her
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>>97696349
Sounds good to me!
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>>97696272
I didn't have any major issues, think you just need to insert it at a different angle and then rotate it a bit to fit
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>>97696439
In any case I managed to pull the halves apart and insert the arm. Kinda odd design honestly. Moral of the story being dry fit shit even when it seems very straight forward like a literal 3 piece mini.
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>>97696157
Yes. A character is a model.
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I tried to put these new marauders on old bases, figuring that enlargement trays won't cost me much money and would be best of both worlds, but rn I'm not really sure anymore. They kind of-sort of fit together in right configuration, and I could maybe squeeze a few millimeters more out of them if I experiment some more with placement, but even so they basically touch one another in multiple spots and in other configurations they don't stick together well at all. Granted it is really not that different from what many units already suffered from under old basing scheme. On the other hand I doubt anyone I'd play wfb would care very much if they were on larger bases. IDK, thoughts?
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>>97696975
>thoughts?
I dont like their weapons. are the arms sculpted onto the bodies or can I swap them out without cutting?
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>>97696981
nta but I dont see anything wrong with the weapons, what dont you like? seems appropriately brutish to me.
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What's the point of wolves of the sea if all you got to work with is two mediocre kits and one of them is off theme cavalry?
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>>97697020
filler to make you buy an overpriced booklet
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>>97696981
Should be fairly easy swap, except for that one guy pointing towards the front.
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>>97697020
when it released it was the strongest WoC list by a mile, skirmishing ambusher flail berserkers are no joke. Now it is even better since you can give them T5 on top of the 6+ ward. Prior to Cathay five blocks of flailserkers with a couple giant spawn was pretty much the goat.
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RQT STL Looking for the new Slann Starmaster.
Checked all current finded 3DPG Rentries (vault, stashes) and crawled the link trees — everything for Seraphon is 404 or outdated.
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>>97697104
But waacfaggotry aside there's really not much to work with for norsca lists thematically.
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>>97697145
and there never was?
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>>97697115
Nice try james
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>>97697194
Then why make a list for it
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>>97696287
I have already made peace with the fact that building and painting a unit of new Streltsi or Kossars will be an elaborate form of psychological torture.
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>>97696297
A flawed strategy, but based none the less.
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>>97696349
>anorexic bipolar german girls into ww2
Instructions unclear, got an anorexic bipolar English rose into WWII instead
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>>97697233
I don't know what you think the AoIs are supposed to be but they are just alternate army comps with some characters and units sprinkled in, not entirely new forces.
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>>97697145
Skinwolves are pretty thematic, you know. You can only take them in WOTS too
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>>97695061
Heldenhammer just to see if they add Miao to Sigmar's story (as it seems they changed Malekith name in the Sundering books).
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>>97697209
Not James, just a guy starting a new Seraphon army who fell in love with the big frog model. Proof attached.
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>>97697602
If they were going to do that, it would have appeared in the Omnibus released they did last year
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>>97695061
>>97695126
>>97697602
>>97697640
Why are they even proposing to re print just 1 of the 3 volumes (Heldenhammer ) btw ?
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>>97697691
No idea, it's a negative you could also put on Blood of Aenarion and Bloodborn as well, since those are parts of multiple book series, but at least they weren't just reprinted as an omnibus less than six months ago.
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Looks like we are getting a new Battalion Box for Cathay as the old one is now sold out on the GW store in the UK instead of just Out of Stock.
wonder what worse version they will replace it with.
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>>97697820
Doubt you'd want to double up on it anyway so fine with me
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>>97697828
Isn't that the point of the Battalion Boxes?
You only really meant to buy one of them GW doesn't want people buying multiple
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>>97697820
Huh that's weird, could be a bug but definitely hints at something.
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>>97697820
so is warriors. I guess both are going to expect something with the upcoming reveals. Power to the people who care for those factions but I find them kinda null at this point.
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>>97697870
The Warriors box was always to good to last
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>>97697256
What's in her mouth in this picture
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>>>97693948
>>97693900
Squig chariots are just too goofy. Even for greenskins. Its something I would maybe expect out of aos for all the wrong reasons.
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>GW is selling their own recasts

By which I mean "some of the returning metals are clearly recast from production miniatures being recast, instead of the original masters or moulds"
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>>97697915
Didn't they say as much in a War Comm article last year?
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>>97697879
um rice pudding
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>>97697922
As far as I'm aware they haven't, just mentioned looking through old drawers for original tin masters.

Moulds take up too much room so GW binned them when they moved to Lenton.
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>>97697915
Even the same models have scale creep!
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>>97697915
I'm guessing the larger is the original
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>>97698020
I would assume so, that kind of really shiny metal is what my MESBG metal minis look like out of the box.
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>>97697878
it was kinda dogshit ngl.
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Why is the Arachnarok still 310 points
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>>97698020
Yeah, recasts are generally smaller than originals
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>>97698084
It's a pretty good deal on a points-to-cash value
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>>97698103
I thought it was the opposite, every mold tiniest extra amount of material gets added to if you keep recasting recasts they get bigger
I guess certain kinds of resin might shrink or something
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>>97698107
mmmmm it was dogshit everywhere else though. From the sculpts to the actual stats. Knights were the only thing redeeming on both fronts.
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>>97698102
My theory is because it's an AoS kit and they don't want it to be good so that AoS doesn't score sales for the bean counters to tabulate. But that's just my theory and not backed by anything.
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>>97697879
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>we will not be updating or touching Legacy army lists
>also here are your Skaven nerfs
???
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>>97698146
They also said "no Cathay for the foreseeable future" then less than a year later had them for sale.
Nobody should ever trust GW or hold them to their word.
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>>97698146
What happened?
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>>97698163
they just up and said that old world was selling so well the higher ups gave them the thumbs up and they probably saw Cathay as the quickest faction to get up and running. The only thing we don't know is what the fuck kind of schedule GW run on or what they are capable of in terms of speed of production, sometimes it is rapid and other times extremely sluggish, but most likely by the end of 2024 Cathay was already on the cards.
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>>97698227
Cathay and Kislev were both ready to go, just GW saw Cathay as the better choice from a optical and business sense. They want to break into the Chinese market, you don't do that with not!slav models.
Plus the Cathay stuff would be entirely new, no grogs whining about how their 6th edition Kislev shit (which is actually just recasts) is better or whatever the fuck. Plus they don't want to be seen as glorifying Russia right now
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https://www.manticgames.com/kings-of-war/xirkaali/batallion/
>>97697820
its still available to me.
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>>97698257
Holy shit I can't believe they made and sell this lmaoooooooooooooooooooo
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>>97698257
No see anon wanted Cathay models, not shitty knock offs with fucking furries for some reason
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>>97698253
Are people that dumb tho'?
Surely French play Bretonnia, Krauts play Empire, Russians play Kislev etc. no?
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>>97698262
>not shitty knock offs
so cathay?
>with fucking furries for some reason
how do you think the longmas get made bro?
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>>97698253
Nah Kislev was delayed solely because of the war in Ukraine.
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>>97698279
ahahahahahah brother if you're being serious and not shitposting then you should be embarrassed what is this lmaoooooooooooo. I can't believe this is real. You made my day anon thank you.
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>>97698270
Generally speaking middle aged white men just play all the cultures but China specifically loves being pandered to, why do you think they had sensitivity teams and shit?
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They had one job with Cathay and they missed it.
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>>97698294
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>>97698262
>>97698285
>>97698290
Maybe Mantic should have hired a sensitivity team too lmaoooooo
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>>97698304
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Is this another perryfag episode? No one cares about Mantic
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>>97698316
Perry has shit taste but I don't think even he would stoop low enough to pretend those mantic sculpts are anything but hilarious at best.
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>>97698312
Hey don't steal my /v/ posts >>734830414
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>>97698323
but enough about cathay.
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>>97698324
yeah seeing that thread in /v/ reminded me about how dogshit cathays exeuction was. So thanks for that.
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>>97698332
Here's the proper pic btw, original was too big for 4chan so I made a shitty snip
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>>97698270
GW has zero interest in spreading to broke as shit slavs
GW already heavily discounts it's product to Eastern Europe, they have to sign contracts that they can't sell at that price to rich countries. Its literally the same sort of shit drug companies have with third world countries, where they get the AIDs medicine for cheap on the condition they don't see to whites (slavs aren't white) where they make their REAL money.
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>>97698326
REEEEE about Cathay all you want the minis are fuckin excellent (if a complete pain in the ass to put together).
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>>97698366
There is a special layer of hell reserved for the person who spliced the Cathayan sentinel.
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>>97698253
NTA but that wasn't the sequence of things, from 2019-2022ish the plan was to launch with Cathay and Kislev, then they abandoned it thinking it would not be successful so opted for a soft launch by 2024. They were shocked by the success of TOW and by Q3-4 decided to revive Cathay the following year. As for Kislev there is still no reason to think they are influenced by Ukraine at all, there literally would not have been the time or production space for the launching of the faction yet. At minimum if Kislev is not announced by the start of 2027 then there MIGHT be a case that the war is the reason.
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>>97698257
>its still available to me.
where do you live anon?
seems to eb sold out all over Europe and north america
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>>97698372
They are removing all references to Russia in Kislev. The Romanoff dynasty will be replaced by the Pyast dynasty.
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>>97698384
if true then surely that means they are planning to release Kislev in spite of the war anyway
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>>97698353
thanks for that.
>>97698366
>minis are fuckin excellent
its not. I was one of the few here who were sucking the armies suck before the reveals and dismissing grogs, but was utterly disappointed during its reveals during the stream. I was someone who had actual expectations for the army and they utterly failed to meet the mark on a visual stand point. I coped that the second reveal would have redeemed it and maybe make the expected peasants look more rustic/bandit asthetic but they both failed that, but the mages and the gunners. They couldnt even keep the cute girls that were in the tww game, and more importantly, they didnt even transition the yin yang visual gender motif present for the minatures at all. its all just utterly forgettable, unless if you're a dullard.
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>>97698424
> Blah blah blah
> No cutie girls!!!!
> Blah blah blah
The models look great, the idea of the male/female yin yang split was retarded, and no one is sorry the models aren't to your disgusting tranime standards.
> Thinks he is Zhuge Liang
> Is really Yuan Shu
Many such cases
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>>97698451
The minis are ass bro and I’ll continue to periodically shit on them down to their entire fucking pitch every once in a while. If Kislev is dogshit aesthetically too then I’ll hope for nothing but the worst for the old world.
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>>97698472
Keeslev is certainly not gonna end up better than in TWW which is ass
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Maybe it is actually the midget shitting up the thread again.
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>>97698472
>>97698512
Post a single timestamped fantasy model.
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>>97698512
Kislev in TWW is basically just BEARS BEAR BEARS ICE ICE ICE BEARS BEARS BEARS
Aesthetically it will be very easy to top.
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>>97698545
Yeah with what they included and didn't include with Cathay, I think that tabletop Kislev will be much better than the rather mediocre Kislev we saw in TWW. The expansion for Kislev was awful, monster mash bullshit.
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>>97698545
they do have other animal motifs in there in tww in there uh....faction mechancis? I cant recall its been a year or two since I played that dogshit game. So they can at least be different kind of furries.
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>>97698588
No. There wasn't animal motifs the mechanics were the struggle between the Patriarchy and the Ice Court. You could also invoke different gods as well as the motherland but only Ursun is depicted as a bear.
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>>97698586
Isn't tabletop cathay basically a 1 to 1 adaption of tww cathay?
Is there really any reason to expect kislev will be different, beyond (understandable) copium?
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>>97698637
>Isn't tabletop cathay basically a 1 to 1 adaption of tww cathay?
No it is not.
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>>97698643
Idk I looked over the army roster and everything present on the tabletop looks exactly the same as it does in the game.
With the one exception being mixed gender units instead of male/female only ones. And I guess the cannons don't have the ogre loader?
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>>97698675
Cannons don't have oxen, peasant outfits are different, crane gunner outfits are different, gender ratios are changed across all units, sentinels don't glow for no reason.
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>>97698688
Longmas also look like shit in TWW, but I like how the TOW ones look.
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>>97698705
>I like how the TOW ones look.
It’s easily the worst tow model that’s new. The mounts mustache isn’t even properly done. Fucking catfish puts it to shame.
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>>97698720
>It’s easily the worst tow model that’s new
Can't possible be true when Bret Foot Knights exist.
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>>97698280
>>97698512
>>97698545
War in Ukraine + nu-Kislev being poorly received at TWW3 release pushed GW to focus on Cathay (which was well received in TWW and in TOW).
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>>97698688
You got me on the peasants, that's true.
Though I wouldn't say any of those things are that big of a departure, kislev would have to be a lot more divorced from the twwh look if they want it to be toned down.
>>97698705
I'm the opposite, the ones in game look fine to me but the tabletop model is easily the worst cathay release for me.
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>>97698764
Wrong thread buddy.
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The longma looks great imo I don’t get the hate
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>>97698787
isn't it the thread to talk about why we still don't have Kislev in TOW?
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Post YOUR characters you have in the game.
>Where do they come from?
>What have they done?
>Do they have a sworn ally/foe?

If you don't know where to start on your own dudes, take some inspiration from other Anons posting their stuff here, don't forget to ask for advice, it is free.
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>>97698802
>scales dogshit
>posing is boring
>the mounted character is supremely boring and I can’t even tell the gender differences.
>the wings are awful, this loops back to the issue of its pose but lord it needs to be stated how bad the wings are
I can’t imagine how they’ll try to make longmas work when the mounted character for them is as big as it is. It has issues quite similar to the Bretonian lord on Pegasus or whatever it is. I at least like the bsb for that kit.
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>>97698834
>>posing is boring
Oh. Youre one of those people
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>>97698806
Just use Renegade Crowns for them at the moment. Basically it covers every human nation you can think of, from Ind, Pig Barter, to Araby to the blasted wastelands of Estalia.
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There's nothing in Orcs and Gobins you could reasonably represent with the double rider Gloomspite wolfs, right?
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>>97698886
champions or heroes for wolfrider units?
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>>97698886
Nope. Although I am heavily biased against them since GW stole warg marauders from mesbg and squatted them to make them shittier in a worse game.
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>>97698886
I do not like the direction AoS went with their goblins. Their faces aren't very good compared to even ancient 5th edition gobbo faces.
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>>97698902
these guys used to be busted
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>>97698802
I find that the entire Cathay range, along with essentially everything GW has sculpted since 2007, arguably 2004, some might even say 2002, lacks weight. It feels cheap! Fake! Ersatz! It doesn't make me care, there's no... history is the wrong word. Longevity? Stamina? All their recent sculpts feel ethereal, and the Longma (and the shuggy-wuggy riding it) does too. It comes and goes, that's what I'm trying to say. There's no staying power! It's not going to leave a mark on the bodies and souls of hobbyists for the next 30+ years like their older models did.
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>>97698870
Dude it’s not even posed in a way that makes sense for play.
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>>97698424
>peasants look more rustic/bandit asthetic
What do traditional peasants/badits look like in Chinese folklore?
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>>97698902
lmao those look like ass
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>>97699002
I'm sorry anon but this is pure unsubstantiated grogposting
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>>97699002
Is it possible you're just older now anon?
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>>97698896
I think they're too big. I was just trying to figure out a good way to start an Orcs and Gobins army because the existing Battalion box is pretty weak. AoS has the Goblins on wolfs box, but that's mostly the double wolfs so it's useless for TOW I guess
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>>97699002
I'm going to have to thirdly back up that you're just grogposting.
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>>97698688
>sentinels don't glow for no reason.
Because you have to paint it, dummy and eavy metal sure ain't gonna do OSL
Why do you think the insides are separate bits and overly complicated?
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>>97699071
Maybe it is, maybe it's not, but it's how I feel about the topic. I like how there used to be a lot of different options for something as simple as a chaos sorcerer. You used to be able to pick from a dozen of them! A dozen! Imagine that. You could play against 11 other chaos players and there was a non-zero chance that you wouldn't have the same model serving as your chaos sorcerer. And if your opponent did have the same chaos sorcerer, that means you both chose the same one. I like that! There's a reason the metal models from back then are so highly prized nowadays.
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>>97699159
Still waiting on my MTO sorcerer GW
WHERE ARE MY SORCERERS GW
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>>97699153
>Because you have to paint it, dummy and eavy metal sure ain't gonna do OSL
If they aren't depicted by as glowing on any of the promotional photos or box art. They aren't meant to glow. It was a stupid liberty taken by CA corrected by GW.
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>>97699173
Mine is still processing too
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>>97699173
I'm still waiting on the MTO mounted chaos lord and the 6th edition sorcerer with the face staff. Some people got theirs immediately, some, like us, have been waiting for a while. I'm sure they'll get delivered soon, anon, we just have to be patient.
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>>97699188
The up to a year delivery time disclaimer isn't just there for show apparently
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>>97699175
Do people actually take the promo art as face value
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>>97699173
>>97699185
>>97699188
>ordered MTO sorc too
>emigrating out of the country in 2.5 months
>still processing
It's a race against the clock for me. Ah well, I only bought the face staff sorcerer so im only out like $20ish bucks if it doesn't arrive in time.
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>>97698884
Eastlia at least has Character rules for renegade crowns, which can't be said for several other human nations
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>>97699206
Promo photos and art are two different things retard.

>>97699203
It's 180 days not a year.
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>>97698886
It's really annoying that these have two spears and shields instead of one melee gob and a bow gob. The big coat is very amusing though.
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>>97699141
>I think they're too big.
They're not as big as you think
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11 Chosen + character. Does a 7 wide formation work or should I do something like 9?
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>>97699331
9 is going to be very unwieldy to maneuver.
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Another 20 White Lions on the way. I think i want to finish the gems when they are all ready.
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>>97699216
>It's 180 days not a year.
I turn 360 degrees and walk away
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>>97699368
They look great, I really need to learn how to work with that grass stuff it looks really nice.
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>>97699331
if you're not going for a rank bonus, you'll want 6x2. Wider is not always better. If you do want a rank bonus (one that will vanish immediately once one guy dies), go for 4x3. Linehammer doesn't work anymore, anon.
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>>97699375
I just use Krautcover meadows of purity for basing materials. I put pva glue on the base and put it in the pot with the basing stuff.
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>>97699403
>krautcover
of course, I use the krautcover Riverbed (painted over) for my dwarfs. Thanks for the tip anon.
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>>97699403
I'll have to give that a shot as well, looks great.
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>>97699368
Looks promising.
Are they goign to be painted exactly as the previous ones (blue mane and red gems ?)
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anyone got a picture or link to that mistake they made showing kislev models like 2 years ago almost at this point? search engines such these days.
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>>97699768
I had them but I realized they weren’t for Kislev. Let’s just say the models were on round bases
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>>97699779
>>97699768
found a bell write up from 2020 for it that has pics... not sure what to think of it though.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/MzN3fQTQ/the-old-world-ice-guard-of-kislev/
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So what's Cathay's flaw? You know, memes about IRL China and other shit some people are angry about, what's their in-universe problem? High elves and dwarfs are old races on decline and refusing to accept it while thinking they're better than everyone else, brets are inbred super elite manipulated by elves and oppressing their masses, the Empire is full of ignorance and straight up dirty despite them thinking they're more enlightened than the others. But when it comes to cathay all I could come up with is that some of the dragons are assholes and beside that they're peak tech, peak living standards etc.
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>>97699173
it took my beastmen 182 days to ship
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>>97699790
Um…le mind control? Le propaganda?
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>>97699788
>diablo 3-ass weapons
They should just stick to historical eastern european historical weapons and sprinkle in the rare but still historical gun axes and then give some ice swords to casters.
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>>97699801
So China memes? Or is that actually mentioned in some army books?
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>>97699790
>they're peak tech
they aren't, they've been stagnant for thousands of years and they might have been kept stagnant on purpose by their rulers

the population is also oppressed in other ways
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>>97699833
Could you elaborate how their tech is not peak? Not being sarcastic, I'm yet to play against them on the table but they seem to have gunpowder on the level of the Empire and flying balloons that might not be on the level of gyrocopters but with their own advantages.
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>>97699812
Those weapons were clearly not very practical. If you want something slavic, original and historically acurate - you want this guy. Polish infantry also used bardisches as forks after 1670 (but a bit smaller).
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>>97699870
But that's what I'm saying? Stick to mostly historical weapons used in eastern europe and then add some of the more bizarre but still historical like the gun axe?
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>>97699790
You keep basing your views of Bretonnia and Empire on 6th edition fluff/Total War. Read the arcane journals. TOW isn't grimdark, it's far more noblebright than Fantasy was from 6th-8th. And harkens back to the lighter 5th edition and earlier tonally.

>>97699850
The burden of proof is on you, because you are making the claim. Dwarf tech is simply superior to Cathay's. Arguably even the Empire has better tech. The Steam Tank is more high tech/advanced than anything Cathay has. The balloons aren't very high tech at all, just hot air balloons.
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>>97699870
The TW streltsy all have gunaxes, but of a different design, with the butt of the gun being where the axe head is placed. Probably a more suitable position if you're swinging hard. Also all of them having gun axes is suitably over the top warhammer to me.
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>>97699926
The tanks are lost technology and as simple as the balloons are it's more than the Empire has when it comes to the air force. Could you elaborate how is cathay tech interior to dwarf tech? Do you mean the guns or something?
>burden of proof
Proof of what, that it seems more advanced and want to know more?
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>>97699955
>Could you elaborate how is cathay tech interior to dwarf tech? Do you mean the guns or something?
That it seems more advanced and want to know more?
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>>97699941
I know they do, but it's not what I'm suggesting. Give them their historical weapons and give the gun axes to some funky elite unit - for example handgun sized gun axes were supposedly used in limited number by some of the historical winged hussars, shooting first and them using them in melee.
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>>97699967
Eh I don't really care about that desu. I really really really hope the stupid Ice Woman elite archer unit doesn't make it in. And if they do, that they have regular bows and regular weapons and not magical ice tipped bullshit.

I hope the Tzar guard and kossars/armoured kossars make it in exactly as in TWW.
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>>97699965
Advanced how? Gyrocopters vs balloons are a good example of how dwarf tech is more advanced in the sky, but what makes their guns more advanced? It's a question, not a challenge to reply to sarcastically.
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>>97699790
What it SHOULD be, and how it was hinted at being in TWW3, is that on the surface Cathay is a utopia by Warhammer standards, but when you peel that back and have a look inside it's a very flawed nation.
It has even less social mobility than Bretonnia with almost everyone holding their ranks and titles through blood and how closely related to the Dragon's they are.
The general population don't worship gods but zealously worship the Dragons and they kill or silence anyone who speaks out against them.
The Dragons themselves like Humanity, but not on an individual level so if a few million die who cares if it serves the overall goals of Grand Cathay.
The amount the Dragons like humanity also varies from, "They are like children and we should rule them to guide them" to "They are like smart work animals, and it's our right to rule over them."
Basically they should be a bit like Fantasy's version of the Tau mixed with some of the Emperor's less charitable interpretations.
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>>97699972
As I already said, you made the claim that Cathay is more advanced. So you need to explain how Cathay is more advanced. You said " because it seems to be so " and I will give you the same answer in response if you're going to ignore my request that you explain why you think Cathay is more advanced than dwarfs
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>>97699972
Cathay actually looks more primitive than the Empire. The Empire is rocking renaissance cannons while Cathay is using more primitive Bombard like cannon designs that fire stone projectiles. Comparing them to dwarfs is laughable. The most advanced tech seen in Cathay so far is the crane guns using primitive magnification optics.
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>>97699985
Because it looks that way to me and I was asking someone to show me if it's not? Anyway if you don't want to answer then don't, I've lost interest.
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>>97699983
Ah, the "we love the concept of humanity as a whole, not humans as individuals" sort of villain that treats his subjects as pieces on a board or in a doll house like dr Doom.
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>>97699983
This just sounds like 40ks imperium but without the grimderp.
>>97699985
Not him but the ajs say that they have cannons and gunpowder that surprises that of dwarves. Also something about teaching WE WUZ KANGZ how to ride horses. They also supposedly have more mastery over magic than lizardmen and high elves.
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>>97700013
>They also supposedly have more mastery over magic than lizardmen and high elves
So we're just making stuff up now eh
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>>97699971
Tzar Guard and Kossars are cool, they could lose some of the AoS tier blocky bulk and dress more like historical eastern europeans - imagine if Empire Greatswords looked like that and not like fancy landsknechts, ew. And I agree on the TWW ice guard, they looks like winter themed sisters of avelorne rip off.
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>>97700018
It’s implied that the dragon primarchs can beat the old ones.
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>>97700023
>imagine if Empire Greatswords looked like that and not like fancy landsknechts
Id probably still ignore them likely. I like their zweis but it’s wasted on pajama wearing fags.
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>>97700029
Greatswords being based on a fancy historical unit enhances their charm. If they were just boring dark fantasy full plate warriors with big swords we wouldn't tell them apart from chaos warriors. That's why Kislev should look to history and fancy designs and then combine them with fantasy.
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>>97700054
I dunno I would have just preferred foot reiksguard over them. Literally the one thing that would make me finally get into empire but I’m sol everywhere it seems.
>chaos warriors
Incorrect. It would be Bret’s that would make them hard to distinguish them difficult to identify between the two. Well at least in tow, unless I’m missing something.
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>>97700054
Eastern Euros didn’t really dress uniformly. Ukrainians and Russians dressed differently from Poles who dressed differently from Czechs etc.
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>>97700113
Yeah, so you dress the units inspired by them according to that.
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Interesting that Savage Orcs are written about in depth in the TOW RP book, but are nowhere to officially be seen in TOW itself. That could be a good thing for us long term. Maybe savage orcs have a chance of returning.
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>>97700129
I will find out the name of the fag brand manager that caused them to disappear one day.
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>>97700129
That's a regular Warhammer Fantasy RP book not TOW.
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>>97697633
Those saraphon look baller anon. Ive never been able to find a whole lot of scans for fantasy. Tho there also a fuckload of alternatives.
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>>97699768
You mean concept arts ?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ohZKfkYd/watch-kislev-battle-a-bloodthirster-in-the-first-trailer-for-total-war-warhammer-iii/
I don't remember any models.
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>>97700240
Yeah there definitely weren't any new models. Those guys are trolling.
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>>97699790
Dragons want to fuck your daughter, your son and your horse.
You can't say no.
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>>97700240
I thought there were barely visible models off in the corner of a marketing picture just as they were releasing TOW. And no, I don't mean TWW3
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>>97698280
As expected of how much they hate the Polish. There can never be any Winged Hussars allowed.
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>>97698886
Annoying that these guys have more of a chaos dwarf (Legion of Azgorh) look than the actual chorfs we got

I hate that they put retards in charge of the chorf release and make polygon-maxxing ps1 vidyagame chorfs
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>>97700024
the contrary, the dragon emperor avoided a confrontation with the old ones
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>>97700335
"They"?
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>>97699790
Even ignoring the straight up dystopian censorship and pic, it's borderline Imperium. The Imperium might be the Empire ported into 40k until it became its own thing, but Cathay is the Imperium retroactively ported back and made Chinese.

Indoctrinated population treated more like a resource and thrown in meatgrinders by the thousands and their leaders don't bat an eye? Feuding demigod children having insane civil wars while daddy is busy on a project he's not telling anyone? Inquisition equivalent who'd blast your entire population for heresy for not being fanatical enough and they too have the authority kill your whole home population? It's all there. Life as a peasant should be above being a Bretonnian but even the most benevolent leaders will sacrifice you by the hundreds or burn your village down to contain a disease and not lose a wink of sleep over it.
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>>97700013
>Not him but the ajs say that they have cannons and gunpowder that surprises that of dwarves. Also something about teaching WE WUZ KANGZ how to ride horses. They also supposedly have more mastery over magic than lizardmen and high elves.
That's their in-universe propaganda speaking. The Total War version of Cathay has the Dragon Emperor express fear of Nagash. It took the combined might of the Emperor and his Astromancers to bring down the comet which contained the Great Maw while older generation Slann could do that solo. They have nice gunpowder and weapons but they're inbetween the Empire and Dwarfs in that they're big on individual artisan designed guns unlike the Empire's Nuln being a step away from an industrial revolution in shitting out guns, but while the best Cathayan gunpowder is better than Dwarf standard the Dwarf standard weapons are far superior to Cathayan arms. Cathay doesn't have any Rune weapons and hypothetically a Dwarf master runesmith can try their hand at their own Ghal Maraz or Runesword gun and Cathay wouldn't have anything comparable. Cathay is also borderline Dwarf levels of stagnant because the Empire had gunpowder from the Dwarfs yet did their own thing and tried innovating and making their own direction whereas Cathay had their current level (or close) for much longer yet didn't take a quantum leap after all this time.
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>>97700361
Ukraine. Their hate for the Polish is legendary. Even now, many think Polish land is theirs and that Polish help isn't another country being nice or even pragmatic, but Polish rightfully giving them what they deserve and repaying a debt. They treat Poland comparable to CCP vs KMT levels of "I'm the rightful owner, you don't exist."
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>>97700389
>That's their in-universe propaganda speaking.
No its bad writing.
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>>97700398
Objectively, all of those claims are false by in-universe sources and more. Books say its harmoniously united then later says that
>Favourite Daughter
can't turn her back for five minutes without scheming nobles fucking something up you shouldn't just disregard the second bit due to being angry about the first
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>>97700397
I've seen shit like that. Shit like https://x.com/EnigmaFella/status/1688245304464654336 has Ukrainian official narratives say
>Poland occupied "Ukrainian ethnic land", even now, even if they ere Polish for 600+ years
>Poland holds responsibility for the Volhynian massacre because they "occupied" Ukrainian lands thus killing babies is okay
>Even pro-Ukraine Polish politicians assassinated by Ukraine were anti-Ukraine oppressors and the UPA are cool
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>>97700397
>>97700369
I was expecting "Russians" but ok.
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I decided I was going to start a TOW army once I had my Pile of Shame under control. I pretty quickly settled on Beastmen, that would be the army to start.

But I'm actually making some series progress on PoS, I'm almost halfway through and since I've got my color schemes down the second half will be way faster than the first half.

And I gotta be honest. I'm starting to feel the pull of goblins.

That would be the more expensive option since there is no Goblin starter, but it would let me use the great new Gloomspite models, and has plenty of space for customizing just like Beastmen.

I dunno, what do youse guys think? Beasts or Gobins?
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I miss Daubeny.
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>>97700496
I miss the Iron Legion.
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>>97700480
Try goblins; they're fun.
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Out of nowhere god damn


https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hjmlb8wk/old-world-malekith-returns-to-the-world-of-legend/
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>>97700480
Join the beastie boys bro.

Are you more of a goat man or a bull man?
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>>97700480
Goblins. Too many beastmeme faggots now.
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>>97700480
Goblins are great but you're in potentially the largest Bray Stone gathering general on the internet. Like half the anons here play Beastmen
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>>97700524
Malerion would have been more believable now that we know the Sundering omnibus is changing his name
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>>97700480
Are you buying to play, collect, paint, or diorama?
If its to play, definitely try out both sides first. Their quirks are very different and you might hard bounce off either side.
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>>97700517
They do seem fun!
>>97700527
I like the goats, but that might just be because I'm not crazy about the current minotaur kit
>>97700605
Whichever one I go with I'll do in a really cool way so it doesn't matter what other people do.
>>97700622
I wonder what the explanation for that is.
>>97700637
Collect and paint first, but I do genuinely want to play. But they're gonna spend way more time on my shelf than on the table no matter what.
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>>97700670
I'd personally go beastmen because even without the minotaurs you have more variety than just goblins. But if you're open to more than just goblins down the line, Orcs and Goblins have a wider range overall.
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>>97700637
Hard bounce on this dick nigga
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>>97699623
Yes. I do prefer the red look, but I want to have them be coherent with the rest of my blue army.
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lol bald
Also just human Miao is like 21 pieces. They're doing this on purpose, right?
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>>97701124
The people splicing the new kits are employed by the WEF to perform Baalistic humiliation rituals on Warhammer consumers.
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>>97701221
Proof. Here's how you put together a leg.
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>>97701227
WTF I love Miao now
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>>97701227
I like how every single shilltuber they sent the model to just completely ignored the internal detail and assembled the whole thing before painting.
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>>97701247
It's just terracotta though, it is gonna be just one color sans the weapons.
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It's always Tomb King this and king that but what about the queens?
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>>97701262
The weapons should be the same one color no? Isn't the whole thing just a statue made of one material animated by a ritual harnessing the winds of magic?
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>>97701263
>7 years since TK in TWW
>still can't bring Khalida Neferata's head
:(
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>>97701262
Not true, see the neck on this GW one, that's the internal color. Not that you can see it in the shadows of the internal detail
Also considering the weapons are full of chips and cracks I'm pretty sure it's the same stone material but it just works because magic
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>>97701267
Well they did finally announce that End Times DLC.
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>>97701266
I thought that, being based on the terracotta army, they'd have actual weapons held by a construct.
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Also they were apparently painted the while time, but like with classical era statues it wore over time.
Which will be useful when WGA releases their own Chinese figures.
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>>97701324
They need to stop making history gay and lame
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>>97701328
Well anon, would you like to be your monument to be your greytide? Man was an emperor, he got his figures commission painted.
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>>97701247
I think some of them tried but said you couldn't even see the insides with glow-in-the-dark paint
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>>97701324

They were announced five years ago...
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>>97701247
It's so stupid, they made the internal pieces separate so you could do the interior glowing effect from the game. But they forgot that miniatures and in-games models are different things.

In real life, the gaps in the armor to show the internal glow are so small you can't actually see the internal stuff at all. ESPECIALLY because making them separate parts means that the gaps in the armor are much deeper than they needed to be, so those internal bits are just fully shaded by IRL shadow from the armor parts

The glow effect was always going to be tricky on an actual model, but doing the internals as separate parts made it virtually impossible.

It's a shame "CADslop" is such a meaningless term, because goddamn, that's a mistake you could only make while digitally designing a model.
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>>97701764
Then again since it's basically hollow some dork could put LEDs in it for fun
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>>97701773
That's the thing, if it was simple construction than an LED inside would shine through where the plastic was thinnest and it would work perfectly. But because the construction is so weird, you'd have to do a decent amount of customizing to get the glow coming through where you'd want it
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it's happening
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>>97701792
I trust gw with ind even less than I trust it with cathay and kislev
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>>97701792
Wood elves and tomb kings will have their princes fight in a thousand temples?
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>>97701800
Neither monkeymen or snakemen are indish, and there's no mention of elephantmen at any point, ever.
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>>97701807
let me have my delusional wishlist, man
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>>97701792
Does Northeast here mean Ogres? And thousand temples is Ind.

Makes sense, if Cathay is the new hotness they really need to build up their area of the map.

But there's no timeline there, I'd assume if Ind is coming out it's AT LEAST 2 years away.
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>>97701792
Boole doesn't post in the TOW thread
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>>97701792
This post doesn't exist on the forum

Why make up something that can be easily checked and disproven?
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>>97701827
>Does Northeast here mean Ogres?
I would guess Kislev since that's the most Northeastern faction if we don't count Kurgan Muarader tribes or Hobgoblins.
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>>97701853
oh yeah.

ehh, I'd prefer Ogres or hobgoblins. I'm not really interested in the faction that puts screen doors on their cannons
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>>97701847
Some people just like attention whoring. It’s a general issue on this board.
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>>97701792
fake and gay
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>>97701847
You think someone would do that? Just lie on the internet?
Thst being he does edit and delete old posts from time to time
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>>97701881
>Thst being he does edit and delete old posts from time to time
people always reply to him to preserve the original posts in their quotes

it simply doesn't exist, the posts counter doesn't add up either
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>>97701827
>Does Northeast here mean Ogres?
In my delusional mind, north east means hobgoblin hordes. Although bringing back Ogres is also great, and makes perfect sense with the Cathay focus.
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>>97701827
>>97701853
>>97701918
It's fake
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it's theoretically possible to fit the plastic Rockgut troggoths ranked up on stone troll bases, right?
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>>97701951
right
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>>97701792

It would be cool if there was a wider selection of ogre mercs available. Man-eaters would be nice.
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>>97702012
I think whole ogre range should be put into chaos warrior army with an option of ogre chaos general and wide options for gluttons (so you can arm them whatever you like, from basic ogres, to iron guts to man-eaters and leadbelchers) plus mournfang cavalry. This way people with ogre armies could play them with little to no addition of other chaos units.
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>>97701951
Generally yeah, they are bit too big tho'.
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>>97702041
>I think whole ogre range should be put into chaos warrior army
What the fuck are you smoking
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>>97702047
The whole idea of ogre army is retarded. They should never be a separate army in the first place. They should be mercs as always - with chaos ogre lord as an option possibly in WoC.
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>>97702088
ogres shouldn't be part of chaos to begin with and the gods wouldn't be interested in ogre champions
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>>97698112
Are you mentally retarded? They castings get smaller because of the way the rubber moulds are made.

Jesus Christ, i hope you don't breed, you stupid fuck. How did you end up so retarded?
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>>97702088
>>97702110
Might have been better to have them be the muscle to some client race. Something less pathetic than gnoblars with more variety and something resembling a civilization.
Those tibetan monkeymen might have done the trick, had they been introduced years ago.
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>>97702123
>i hope you don't breed
Sir this is a Warhammer thread
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>>97702110
There are plenty of chaos ogre champions in the lore tho'. Khorne likes them.
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>>97702127
What? No this is just some weird random thing you're making up. Ogres are perfectly fine as their own thing. They do need a bit more fleshing out in lore and models because they were the last Fantasy army before the end, but there's nothing wrong conceptually with Ogre Kingdoms as a standalone army.
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>>97701521
Soon (TM)
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>>97702149
shouldn't be
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>>97702154
>They do need a bit more fleshing out in lore and models because they were the last Fantasy army before the end
Y'know this actually touches on something I've been wondering for a while, but why did they never bother adding any other new armies between ogres and the end times?
From what I hear one of the big problems at the time was older players just not buying new stuff because they already had enough, I feel like a whole new army could've helped with that. For the first edition of aos they shat out like 7 entirely new factions, make that 10 if you count the chaos gods becoming their own standalone ranges, they did it again for their second edition.
Not that I think this would've been the secret key to revitalizing whfb or anything, but I'm surprised they didn't even try something like that. Y'know cathay or kislev or araby or one of the other million meme armies you could come up with.
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>>97695045
Do we have a scan of the Bastion AJ ?
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>>97702316
no, only screencaptures from people who read the whole book on YouTube
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>>97702281
The answer to every question that even remotely pertains to the goatfuck that was Fantasy during its final years is and will always be "mismanagment" and/or "fuck-assery by management".
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>>97702281
if your problem is that existing players have already purchased enough toys to play and aren't buying any more, they're not suddenly going to buy new armies just because more armies are available or they would already buy multiple of the 12 or so existing armies instead of sticking to one

the real problems were that armies weren't different enough in gameplay to make people want to play something different, that the cost of making a new army from the ground up was prohibitive, and that the outdated models kept armies unappealing

you don't need to sell brand new armies to address the above, you just need to freshen the game's rules, make some quality plastic kits, and cheaper boxed deals, which turns our was what gw also did at the start of aos, when it actually began to sell with the start collecting boxes and general's handbook
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>>97702281
>I feel like a whole new army could've helped with that.
ultimately it wouldnt have. Its existing audience was just fed up with them at the time since maybe late 6th. 7th for sure.
Also a new army for fantasy at the time would probably just be something made entirely by forgeworld or something in that vein.
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>>97702451
yeah Forgeworld was at east trialing Fimir shortly before The End Times
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>>97702424
Grog here.
back in my day people didn't update their armies, but nowadays they do, so GW needs to update their range constantly. Second - some people may not buy new models, but keeping the game alive makes them spend money on the game nontheless - by buying new books, paints, brushes - or making noise about the game on the internet if nothing more (free marketing).
8th edition was a stagnation edition. Nothing really happened in the game, no wonder people didn't want to spend money on it. You can't just release the game and hope for the best - you need to actively support it and keep players interested.
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>>97702528
>8th edition was a stagnation edition
sorry meant to type 7th
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>>97702528
>8th edition was a stagnation edition. Nothing really happened in the game
Anon...
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>>97702538
End Times doesn't count.
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>>97702541
it was the most fun the game was.
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>>97701847
Boole is annoying and deletes posts a lot of the time immediately after. Idk if its real or not but he has been known to do that bc he’s annoying as fuck.
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Is the Empire battalion box a better start to the army now that the rules have been changed to make infantry more useful?
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>>97702563
>>97701889
it's fake
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>>97702569
Go on eBay and get some 3d printed stuff that’s costs 1/3 of that shit stain of a box.
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>>97702528
I am grog too, people did update their armies when the updates were actually worthwhile, it just so happened that plastic updates of metal kits were rarely if ever worthwhile back then, if not for the price, but quality updates to visibly aged kits have always and will always be successful
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Grog here. I like to grug myself on the rug while I get tugged by the bug.
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>>97702592
I remember some people updating their monopose armies from 3rd edition in 6th edition, yes. But generally most poeple didn't.
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>>97701951
What size base are stone trolls supposed to be on?
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>>97702636
40x40
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>>97702636
40mm, as opposed to 50mm rounds the kits are sold with
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>>97702603
ladybug?
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>>97702603
"Tug my slug" would have been better, anon.
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>>97701951
You can squeeze them on 40mm but 50mm look better in my opinion.
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>>97702730
damn those are nice conversions
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>>97702781
Danke. I built six of them maybe six years ago before I discovered milliput. They could definitely use some gap filling and paint ;o;
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>>97699071
I'm only 21
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>>97698886
>>97700338
to be fair these guys are very sexy as a hobgoblin khanate army.
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>>97698886
They made a single-rider version too.
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>>97701792
Thankfully fake and gay
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>>97702569
Yes it’s quite decent now. Steam tank is always good. Missile troops are good and you can find uses for the state troops.
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>>97695045
>tq
Probably Drachenfels by Jack Yeovil (Kim Newman)
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>order online only direct on Wed night from GW
>live in somewhat Northern Canada
>package ships from the US
>is due to be delivered today
What kind of black magic delivery system does GW use that it's that fast? I've never seen a US package arrive that quickly.
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>>97702575
>>97702908
It doesn’t really tell us anything we basically don’t already know is coming anyhow.
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>>97703082
Every second spent in that hellhole is a second they could get MAIDed. In n out, ol chap.
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>>97701792
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>>97703325
Ignoring the fake part, who the fuck is Boole and why it's relevant?
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My ogre themed Empire army coming along. Got a lix if metal and plastic cav, an old metal steamtank, some wizards. Next step is deciding whetever I settle for plastic flagellants or buy some of the old metal ones. I will probably be adding a cannon and rocket battery as well.
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>>97703434
erhmmmm…ok now this is just freaking epic. what province/colours you going for nigga
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>>97703421
He's a credible rumor monger, the anti Jav
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>>97703434
This is going to look incredible painted, which province?
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>>97703479
I am still pondering colours. Either I have a uniform pattern or I give them more of a mercenary vibe, with everyone having a mix. I quite like the idea of a mix, since this is clearly a mercenary army.
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>>97698802
longma dick lol
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>>97703532
>>97703547
See. But I am thankful for feedback/opinions!
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>>97703434
SOVL
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What scale are metal minis in? Is it 25 or did they start off as 28 too?
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>>97703649
It's still heroic 28mm, but much closer to true 28mm than current sculpts
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>>97703434
Is that an ogre priest of Sigmar in the back?
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>>97703649
it depends on whether we're talking 1-3rd edition, 4-5th edition or 6th edition
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>>97703687
Yeah! My sculpting is rough, but Ill be painting the metal as rough and partly rusted.
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>>97703733
Unfathomably kino
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Deliver my chaos lord on a steed already, James! I have big plans for him!
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>>97703899
4 more months. Trust the plan.
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>>97703899
>>97703967
The trick to getting MTO's in a decent timeframe is to order them as soon as they go up for sale. They always have some stock waiting around to be shipped and ready to go. But if you wait you'll be put on the actual MTO list and will have to wait for gaps in the production.
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>>97703899
It will happen at some point anon
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>>97703421
Pretty well known rumourmonger, mainly does aos stuff, but has occasionally dabbled in tow as well. 40k too.
Off the top of my head, he leaked all the nurgle + darkwater stuff when that really wasn't on anyone's radar, plus leaked some stuff for ogres and fyreslayers, which caused gw to put up that quadruple coloured rumour engine thing. Also I think called the iron warrior stuff for 40k. Does get details wrong on occasion, but is usually pretty direct, usually the first to leak stuff, etc. Like the other guy said, the anti-jav. Worst fucking rumourmonger and it sucks that we're stuck with that bum.
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I picked up the recent booklet with the Path to Glory stuff and its sure as shit shilling me on marauders. I've got no interest in full WoC right now since they were all i played as a kid but is it viable to make a 500pts army of just the norscan stuff? i kind of want to make a Carrion Crow worshippers project.
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The only rumour i'm hearing from reliable people is simple and makes sense and thats usually a sign its happening and not wishful thinking and the only ToW rumor doing the rounds is Vampire Counts leaving legends because they are too popular at tournaments and sell a lot of models and GW wants that "aspirational product" angle.
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>>97704224
If they turn vampires into core and rerelease the 7th edition skeletons and tomb guard I am going all in. All in. All other projects will stop.
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>>97703525
>>97704107
>some dude posts a fake boole screenshot
>jav goes mhmm yeah I know what he's alluding to
That dude is so obviously full of shit man he got found out hard
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>>97704205
Marauders are probably the most viable 500 point project for WoC. In terms of potential on the table.
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>>97704224
What >>97704315 said. Ironically, Chaos Warriors, are a terrible trap choice. Marauders are better, mind the Chaos Knights outclass Marauder horsemen byt marauder foot > warriors
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>>97704315
Can they take any of those werewolves?
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>>97704330
Only if you take the Wolves of the Sea AoI
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>>97704330
If you mean Skin Wolves, yes. But must be a Wolves of the Sea Chaos army.
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>>97704330
>>97704335
>>97704338
As they said. But if you’re doing a norscan tribe project you should go wolves of the sea anyways so you can use berserkers.
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>>97704349
my books aren't on hand, can you use skinwolves in a 500pts force? like for my 500pts beastmen i use two minotaurs and some hounds around my gor and ungor. If you went with marauders, maybe 5 horsemen and some hounds could you fit some skinwolves in or is that too small?
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>>97704359
I think it depends on what characters you try and take
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From what i've seen -not counting cunts trying to take a dragon ogre in 500pts like some 40k reject waacfag there to ruin everyones fun- the Sea Wolves lists running a unit of Skin Wolves tend to be a basic bitch caster and lunk and then some variation of 5 marauders, 5 berserkers and 5 horsemen with some trying to fit 5 hounds in. I just wonder if the wolves are worth it when at 500pts i often see stuff like 30 zombies murderballs or even your basic bitch 20 Gors being a real problem for 5 marauders.
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>>97700593
So fucking kino, this is what the hobby is all about
>>97703434
Based.. kino .sovl...

>>97703549
Sovl
>>97697633
Soulless
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just ordered my first chaos dwarfs.
Got one model in 28 and another in 32.
Still worried about the scale when i got screwed with 28mm questing knights who look way too small.
Last year was really great for the chorf range, finally some proper ones with big hats.

I got real good with keeping my pile of shame short in 40k, only have 2 armies mostly painted. Somehow i love fantasy and its models so much i gotta stop myself from buying two thirds of all armies. They just all look so much fun.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/mm7rd0ir/collect-a-host-of-spearheads-with-new-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-magazine/

So, will any of you anons get any of AoS' Speadheards issues for your Legacy armies?
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>>97700593
>Lind Murms company
guess boomers had their share of interns too
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>>97704712
I've got my eye on a few kits that should be on fair discount, but going by prior incarnations of their mags my local news agent can be iffy about stocking each and every issue.
So, just fingers crossed.
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>>97704712
I’ll get the stormcast for some tzeentch warrior conversions. I dunno what to do with the flying guys though. Kinda odd how the only flyers for chaos are just mounts.
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>>97704666
Something about warriors in that chunky scale doesn’t sit right with me. Always preferred the other variant that had more charm, fazbaziel? I think that’s what it was called?
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>>97704712

The skaven initially. Then I'll pick up the cannons to proxy as bombards.
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>>97704712
Gotta grab some of those rat-ogres for my 40k, kitbash them into Grotesques(please GW stop being fucking faggots to my edgy space-elves) probably going to go for some of the Vampires and Angry Trees too.
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>>97704779
you probably mean Fabelzel or MOMinatures.
They have the more goofy 4th edition look with the comical hats on tiny almost round shaped bodies.
I also love those for their whimsical shape but considering i want to play these among other armies i prefer this modern look.

Im glad though these still adhere by the classic design with big hats and skulls on shields, unlike the forgeworld stuff which lost all of this in favor of the infernal guard look.
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>no frog mouth
>no beaks
Everytime I look into Bret’s or empire I’m always reminded of what exactly the ranges are lacking to make them favorable to me.
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>>97704712
I have been wanting to get my hands on those trolls for a while.
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Ok WHFG hivemind, I want some input.

I'm going to be running a one shot of WHFRP 2ndEd, with the specific request to make it challenging, gritty, and grim. The play group is two of my regular players, and three friends of ours who are primarily D&D players and want the full Warhammer experience, but I don't want to go too far into grimderp edgelord territory. I want to keep the scope small, accessible, and yet keep the pressure and immediate stakes high, so I came up with and idea of having the whole party be kids/teenagers seeking safety in the aftermath of the storm of chaos- inspired by the first 3/4 of the game A Plague Tale.

What I ask the hive mind for is suitable encounters while traveling as refugees through the wartorn imperial countryside. The pregen archetypes I'm rolling up won't be too helpless (they have made it this far), but obviously combat is going to be much riskier. Stat wise, even your average goblin now poses a credible threat, much less a bandit or beastman.

What do you got for them?
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>>97705414
Small time farmer Joeshef has lost his 2 sheep and is paying pity money to the group for them to track them down.

They find a hole in the fence, follow some tracks and find two beastmen ungors have whisked them away, presumably taking them back to the herd.

The group can try and sneak up on them and engage a favourable combat, but there may be more.beastmen around. Do they retreat and look for help?
Do they alert the local town to the threat?
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>>97705414
Men in the service of Duke Eppstein approach the group offering safety, food, and comfort at his manor. If the group doesn't take the offer, the men attempt to take them by force.

Should they find themselves in the manor itself, it's quickly made apparent that It's home to a cabal of noble cultists, either to Slaanesh or Khaine. Escape, rescue of the other captives, and destruction of the manor are to goal.
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>>97705556
Is there a warhammer equivalent to a jew?
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>>97705645
dwarves
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>>97705645
Marienburg
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>>97705645
ulthuan
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>>97705650
>>97705713
Dwarves and Elves two sides of the same coin
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>>97705645
I don't really think there is one. The meme answer of elves or dwarfs only really works if you focus on the negatives of either, and even then it's tenuous. Games Workshop did produce a " moneylender " model way back in the day however.
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>>97705662
The Dutch are aspiring jews in character so that checks out.
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>>97703434
>ogre themed empire
Fucking ey anon it’s great fun
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>>97704712
Wrong thread buddy
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>>97705854
No pal, it's the right thread.
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>>97705645
>Undermining society
>Thinks they're superior
>big noses
>weird science experiments
>invented nukes
>ruin the world
>Talking about them gets you weird looks

Skaven.
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>>97705832
That mossy stonehorn is rad
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>>97705890
You can also be institutionalised or imprisoned if you keep going on about them.
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Painted up some additional terrain
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>>97705763
>let the reiklanders deal in the real world
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>>97705859
Check your eye then
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>>97705891
Thanks man
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>>97695045
>>97706060
>>97706060
>>97706060
>>97706060
New
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>>97705915
looks great. wheres it from?
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>>97699955
Cathay's tech is in stasis. They don't have steam, they don't improve it, and they don't innovate.
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>>97706067
The site is called minimosters. I'm not sure if they deliver outside the EU though.
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>>97700480
Goblins seem more fun. Night Goblins or Forest Goblins if you wanna be extra based, or maybe go fully insane and field like 250 regular goblins and see what happens
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>>97700496
DAUBENY
DAUBENY SHOW YOURSELF
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>>97701124
>>97701227
Look at how Jew's Workshop fears the Russo-Chinese recastGOD
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>>97702110
Tamurkhan is friggin sweet
Yes he counts, shut the fuck up
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>>97702569
>builds his army based on the ever-changing homoWAAC rules and not what he thinks is cool
KWAB NGMI KYS
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>>97703549
>classic KOTR
SOVL
O
V
L
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>>97705414
BARONY OF THE DAMNED
>n-no I want to play muh empirino—
BARONY OF THE DAMNED



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