Smooch Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh >Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Previous Thread:>>97702157>Thread Question:Can love bloom on the battlefield?
Let Chaos idols take this cute thread!
Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
>>97704372>TQ
unironically kill yourselves, ritualposting cretins
Guys, she's keeps telling me she's going to rip my skin, but my dad taught me not to.
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
>smooch edition
>>97704413I do not understand what this means
>>97704392>cretinsit's literally just OP samefagging>one exact minute between >>97704376 and >>97704378
>>97704392threadly reminder that spending time to build and paint your models is enjoyable and rewarding
>>97704424I'm not the ratfag, i just make OPs when nobody else does.
>>97704429>I'm not the ratfagprove it
>>97704424I'm just the fastest poster in the west
>>97704418Cmer i’ll show ya
>>97704437fuck off furfag
>have color scheme for necrons>change over to a new one, whip out the airbrush and do a few guys>realize it'll look like shit with my basing schemeI don't even know what I want any more.
>>97704432Literally how?Also I have a pass so my posting timer is less than a minute
>>97704372Taldeer ;0;
>>97704429>>97704433Clearly not fast enough to breach the 60 seconds limit when samefagging.
>>97704426That's very true!Post models you have worked on recently.Correct image this time.
>>97704448retvrn to boltgun metal
>>97704463I don't know if I want to paint 80% of every model silver though.
>>97704450>Literally how?Post a timestampted model the vtumor faggot can't have
>>97704454I mean I can if you want but that wouldn't prove I'm not him, would it?
>>97704444You know not everyone who plays wolves is a furry right?
>>97704472Yes, it would, his models are all shit, so you just need to prove you can paint better than a toddler and that will do it.
>>97704372>TQIt can.
>>97704479you are a furfag and you don't belong here.
>>97704387I wish these were their actual models. GW can't model nice faces or fat tits somehow
>>97704462those look very nice.i have shaky hands, so i don't bother with wip pictures. i'll post my latest unit once it's done
>>97704470Like what?I'm not the aussie(?) rat ritualposter, I just post my sisters usually.I just make threads if we hit image limit. I also made the last one and I don't think he even posted in that.
>>97704448change the basing for the necrons to match your new paint scheme?
>>97704372>TQPointless question. You're all just biomatter to feed the hive.
>>97704378you bring down the quality of your own life
>>97704508I could. But then I'd have to figure out my new basing scheme as well as my new paint scheme.
>>97704494True, but you can largely say this about most female models made by GW. Most of them look bad, even sisters of battle look like 50 year old men in drag. Also lets be honest, GW intentionally didn't sex up the female custodes designs (they 100% could if they wanted to) because 1. it doesn't 100% fit the 40k tone, like look at the more recent art for 40k. And 2. it probably would've just angered the anti-gooners.
>>97704487Good god man you are profoundly unhinged
>>97704505Don't bother with him. He's just shitposting or trying to intentionally get you to post some model so then he can latch onto you as an orbiter.Just ignore him and don't give him what he wants. Remember; Do not feed the trolls.
>>97704537Stop ban evading and finish your hellblasters :)
What single unit would you have the worlds largest collection of?
>>97704548Warlord Titans so that I could sell them and make millions
>>97704548I own 40ish chaplains if that counts.Probably not the worlds largest but I doubt it's far off
>>97704548Chaos Terminators
The wind is blowing hard enough to tear my gutter of and my power went outI just want to paint
>>97704539stop ritualspamming
>>97704494GW can make some nice faces when they really want to
This is so cool. I shouldn't have assembled it at work I'm waving it around making airplanes noises
>>97704548Dreadnoughts
Reminder, if you ask for modesl you have to provide your own first.
>>97704581I did!
>>97704581stop ritualspamming
>>97704586hell yeah!
>>97704578It's a wicked sweet model and one of the coolest flyers in the game. What are your plans for the plastic windows? Gonna paint over then or leave them see-through to show off the pilot?
>>97704589ywnbaj
>>97704596I'm gonna leave them clear, but that means the model will be in like seven sub assemblies.Also the first kit didn't come with any of the acryllic parts so I have to wait for the replacement.
>>97704589but how else will i summon chaos?
>>97704548Inquisitors
ITT we find the opposite of fliers/fortifications in the form of the most WAACfag units in the game.
>>97704619why does Guilliman have wings?
>>97704462pretty much finished basecoating my collage entry
>>97704619boringWhat's the most not-a-waacfag flag you can play in your army?
>>97704568Wait a minuteI just remembered my magnifier has a head lampThe painting continues
>>97704557Neurolictors
>>97704627I need her model...
I'm dreading the next price hike.
>>97704660Oil is up, 25% increases all round
>>97704660i've completed my purchases for a while.pile of shame could probably keep me busy through wwiii as is
Trying to sell models suck
reminder that Sanguinius was only a single apothecary away from willingly joining Khorne. So much for most loyal Primarch.
>>97704675NIB on ebay should be easy.or are you selling something built or worse, painted?
>>97704536but they could have made me very happy and given the slaanesh and EC players some grimdark bits
>>97704675What are you selling?
>>97704681why does everyone forget kyriss was a slaaneshi daemon not a khorne one
>>97704682It’s mostly nib, the thing is I’m kinda hoping to sell it as a lot.>>97704687Tzeentch stuff.
>>97704695beggars can't be choosers.you can always list it as a lot and let people pick and chooseif you don't need the money, why not just keep them? they'll literally never get cheaper than they are now
>>97704695have you tried buyswapsell groups on facebook marketplace?I'd say try and sell it as a lot, but if you get people asking abouty splits hold unless you can get a good price.
Is the crucible exalted champion worth to take over the different types of chaos lords?
>>97704675its easy you just need to nut up and accept the fact you've built and painted them make them less valuable not morestop asking for near retail price
>marneus calgar + victrix guard NoS is already 100-120 burgerbux in freedom landL M A OMAO
>>97704513Even still love can bloom
There any chapters who might be loyalist world eaters?
>>97704756yes
>>97704756/yourguys/
>>97704756Storm wardens are suspected
>>97704513I'll give a neurolictor some biomatter, if you know what I mean.
>>97704756carcharodons
>>97704764No those are night lords
>>97704756No.Fuck your faggot HH shit, UMMM ACKUALLY EVERYONE WAS TRAITOR/LOYALISTAll the loyalist WE died on Istvann. They went out like bosses. Everyone else was a filthy retarded traitor.> But what about muh kewl BL Chara-No. It didn't happen.> Can my custom chapt-No it can't. Or rather, if you say it JS, people will rightfully call you a faggot loser, and ask which of your hero models is your pathetic self insert, and whether they too have their younger sister as the machine spirit of a battle barge, or if they too have a DE girlfriend, or if they too have a pack of pokemon demons they summon, or any other manner of faggot ADBisms
>>97704756Dark Angels
>>97704753h-hot...
>>97704753Wait, this is porn!
>>97704777Looks like trips has spoken.>people will rightfully call you a faggot loserSadly they are stuck in the 2000s.
Would space marines and the wider imperium be more interesting in 40k if they were in a(nother) wide-scale civil war with themselves?
>>97704772nope>>97704777fuck off subhuman
>>97704777Some of you get way too attached to a version of 40k that only exists in your head.
I might paint a Warp Spider soon, have one question. How do I paint it in Iyanden colors if the face plate of a Spider is the same as the armor?
>>97704802anon...
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97704462I want to actually try sculpting more and I figured seeing how I dislike the "sleepwear" look they have new Repentias wearing I would try and turn their clothes into tattered/ripped robes instead of a tank top and pajama shorts.And any spot were I messed up and made the putty too rough I can just paint on some blood, gore, or cut it up to make it look more tattered.
>>97704808I just think we should have even more Badab-isms.
>>97704802This is one of the evergreen problems with 40k is that the narrative has only a few justifications for Imperium infighting and very few actual examples and yet the vast majority of all matches will be Imperium forces fighting Imperium forces.
>>97704764i prefer the Carcharadons being a bunch of Terran Raven Guard that got sent off into deep space on a mission purely because Corax is a bitch that hated them.It's also why they're not gay like raven guard.
>>97704803>nopeYes you retard newfag
>>97704812but you already have "thing". it's an entire template to make your own.and there's even a whole nother system dedicated to "thing"
>>97704820>I have no argument so I'll project my newfaggotry onto otherscope
>>97704827>argumentThis isn't a debate stream for your YouTube and kick channel newfag.
>>97704811Really like the look honestly, it's an improvement over the gym outfit for sure. >>97704500Thanks anon and that's fair I hope to see it soon>>97704627Neat, also lookin forward to it being done. Super clean so far
>>97704836>seething this hard over being BTFO'dembarrassing, lurk moar
>>97704827The carcharodons share the same fighting style and way to do war as night lordsThe same recruiting methodsThey share the same physical appearance due to the geneseed, and unlike the raven guard who lack some glands, both the night lords and the carcharodons have 0 geneseed flaws that affect their glandsI could go on but you're clearly a retarded newfag that doesn't know its lore
>>97704847wrong on all accountsincredible
>>97704852>literally 0 argumentsOk newfag
>>97704856>n-n-newfagagain with the projectionkeep crying lmao
>>97704802A wide-sacle civil tends to improve most settings I feel
>>97704802definitely more interesting, but it would be a lot less beginner friendly if a bunch of shit was going down at once. normies already consider 40K lore to be extremely deep, so creating even more ongoing events to keep track of and political leaders who each have their own set of justifications for fighting beyond “I’m racist” or “I’m possessed by space satan” would just be too much for them to handle.
i miss when trolls would have actual content to cause people to get mad, now days it's just being in denial and that's it, which is so boring.
>newfag so assblasted over being BTFO'd he's indirectly seething>has no argument so he cries trollyou love to see it
Predictions for early codex versus late codex factions next edition? Late from last edition get early in the next edition right? And bigger waves have to be space put throughout the edition?
>>97704863Yeah he isn't trying very hard
>>97704867It's pretty embarrassing when they immediately fall back to this cope isn't it?
*farts*
>>97704874Why are you replying to yourself?
>Censored blood hags for AOSWe're never getting updated asdrubael vect with his space whores are we.
>>97704577>GW Eldar sculptors*Exists*>GW middle managerHey, the sculpting guys on the Imperial side of thins need help make better female heads for their models, can we have one of you-->Eldar Scuptors synchroneously start screeching in unison, shattering glass and rupturing ear drums>GW Middle ManagerFUCKING FINE! SHUT THE FUCK UP! I'll get someone at theTyrannid sculpts again... fucking faggots I swear to god.
>>97704881Sorry meant for >>97704869
>>97704887Sorry I was right he first time meant for >>97704874
>>97704892I don’t know this guy is impersonating me this was meant for >>97704820
>>97704895why does he waste ammo when he could simply stomp the child?
>>97704881He’s a psychotic bully with a relentless appetite for drama and a penchant for buggery.
>>97704900Stop trying to insert yourself into real discussions decalpedo
>>97704899>wastethe ritual requires a special blood splat, ignorant heathen
>>97704847don't Carcharadons have the similar pale skin and black eyes to raven guard, it's been a while since i read their novels so i might be misremebering
>>97704904Idk what this is supposed to imply but kys
>>97704462
>>97704915Yes, but so do night lords>Raven GuardPale skin, black hair, black eyes, lacks 2 progenoid glands>CarcharodonsPale skin, black hair, black eyes, lacks no progenoids glands>Night LordsPale skin, black hair, black eyes, lacks no progenoids glandsI mean, it's right there
>>97704923so night lords and raven guard are the same chapter, got it.
kek he keeps trying
>>97704923night lords aren't rushdown melee chads they're limpdicked hit n run "terror" faggots, same with raven guardcarcharodons couldn't come from such inferior stock
The Terran Raven Guard that Corvus told to fuck off and the Space Sharks origin myth are clearly meant to be connected, this autism is weird.
I'm glad I don't really give a fuck about the lore so I don't get dragged into retarded arguments like these
>>97704916Stay out of this decalnigger >>97704933You don't have to be this mad you can just admit you are wrong it's an anonymous board nobody will remember your retardation in an hour :)
>>97704939Lore is fun to argue about you pathetic dung eater
>>97704941don't reply to me you fucking clown
>>97704934Yes anon because different groups of marines with the same geneseed never, ever develop different attitudes and fighting styles. Oh wait.>>97704936Then explain the geneseed flaw variation between them
>>97704933i was just trying to show him how to actually have fun with it
Space sharks are even gayer than space wolves, they just get away with it because only people who are really into that sort of thing know they exist.
>>97704944Kek, who do you think you are talking to nomodels?
>>97704809Don't refresh. Add to it. They need more new shit, not replacing the few kits they already have.
>>97704945no trust me bro they're totally this legion's genestock they just don't act at all like them or look like them or have anything connecting them whatsoever other than "recruitment tactics" (everybody but the main 9 use these tactics)
>>97704945Crimson fists are such an awesome chapter, i wish they weren't weighed down by being an imperial fist successor.
>>97704964>no argument
>>97704966Yes they're cool, too bad you can't really even talk about them without the mexican memes (even tho they're supposed to be spaniards). Here's hoping the rumors are true and we getting stuff for them in 11th
>>97704966>ultramarines >But MexicanWow so cool
>Then explain the geneseed flaw variation between them chimeric geneseed from stealing NL geneseed around the time of the Heresy, see also the Ashen Claws.
>>97704808>>97704802Maybe even a sort of ... Guilliman Grapple?
>>97704961>accusing without posting anythingeat shit, fecalfaggot
>>97704986didn't ask for your headcanon NLfag
>>97704979I never really picked up on the mexican thing, but i guess you've got some fags that do >97704985
>>97704806Someone answer me?
>>97704991stop replying to zero effort impostors
>>97704993Because this place is mostly americans, and to americans spanish means mexicans
Do you like Games Workshop? Their early miniatures were a bit too fantasy for my taste, but when 40k came out in 87, they really came into their own, commercially and artístically
>>97704985>your opiniontop lel :^)
>>97704982night lards
>>97704979Crusading Spaniards are cool though, they're the good guys in every setting including real life
>>97704982
>>97704982'allo couzin
SMslop all look same
>>97704993>>97705010I accept your concession >>97705006The only difference between the two is Mexicans are sometimes slightly browner
>>97704989Guilliman going full secessionist mode would be based but it'll never happen because blue space marines NEED to be the imperium's chosen goodguys.
>>97704986A novel has an ashen claw marine treating with disgust a carcharodon saying they don't have the same ancestry. Another novel has a demon tell the night lords that the carcharodons are their lost brethen
>>97705024AGE OF APOSTASY 2: IMPERIUM SECUNDUS BOOGALOO LETS GO TOTAL ECCLESIARCHY DEATH
>>97705018My favorite Curze moment is actually a cool one but it's kind of primarch wank and both liking primarchs and curze are big no-no's around here so eh
Male overlord x female cryptek?
>>97705033curze has been dead for 10,000 years bruh
>>97705036died off screen so who can really say if he's dead for sure?
>>97705036No worries they'll bring him back for the 19th edition
>>97705033nah, Curze is cool.
>>97704548Techmarines and succubi
>>97705036He's in a spirit stone chilling they can bring him back anytime if they want
>>9770503812th*
>>97705036https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTLC_uiGFANo one's ever really gone
>>97705042Nah they're bringing back all the primarchs alive first.
>>97705036It’s kinda well hinted that he staged his own assassination so don’t be surprised if they bring him back.
>>97705049I thought that he was killed but he was wearing the corona nox with a spirit stone and his soul is there
Is it weird I have recurring dreams of Curze jumping from rooftops buck naked, occasionally stopping so people below can look at him, then bounding off again laughing maniacally?
>>97705055
>>97705021WB are cool too
>>97705055I dreamt that the tau attacked my old high school back in the day. We call these hanmer dreams. Very similar to the famous bionicle dreams.
>>97705063you're cool too>it's been a while since i've seen that art uneditted
>>97705070What's the edited art?
>>97705055>>97705068While on the discussion of dreams, I had a dream last night I was a flea market that was selling a lot of model kits, and I spent the entire time looking for Warhammer kits and found none. Even in my dreams I can’t find anything I like while thrifting.
Female overlord x male cryptek?
>>97705077i'm sorry
>>97705079I had a dream tzeentch told me I'd lose every game I played if I didn't start tsons
>>97705033oh no random jerkoffs on a Rwandan gopher watching site might say mean things to meShare your thing, it seems like most authors write Curze as the dumb kind of slasher villain rather than a dramatic one with a manifesto to get across. I don't remember much of the HH series but the only time I wasn't rolling my eyes was during the parts when he was on Macragge, and only just.I thought a point of his character and legion should be that he is so maleficent and terrifying, it's not just to scare enemies into submission but to serve as a check to the rest of the Imperium in order to try and keep them true to a higher ideal. Like yes, they are a weapon of absolute cruelty and terror, the Imperium needs them to have as an option to deploy against its enemies. But the NL need to be so abhorrently cruel that the Imperium is constantly having to keep them on a leash and half a word away from putting them all down. If the Imperium ever takes a lighter hand or softens their view of the NL, it means the Imperium is failing to hold up to what the Emperor expected of it. The NL must be one of the forces that constantly tests the Imperium's moral resolve. I would argue that the legion needs to be wiped out in any case, so that the Imperium can prove it has the resolve to uphold its own ideals. Hence Curze in the Night Lords series describing his legion as murderers and rapists whose purpose is to have 'justice' be done upon them.
What exactly makes grey knights good against daemons in the tabletop? Scarcely a mention of daemons in their detachments or units.
>>97705084Nice.
Would you smooch a battle sister?
>>97705094If they had as much anti-daemon rules as they did in ye olde tymes, they would be an absolute hard-counter against Daemon armies. Which yes, is the point, but doesn't fly in the modern iterations of 40k where balance comes first and fluff comes...at some point.
>>97705089well? did you obey the changer and start them up?
>>97705106The old way to design grey knights was also dumb, bluntly.The optimal way to design them would be to give them unit options that are good at countering what a daemons army can output: Hordes of fragile chaff with excellent melee backed up by psykers and giant monsters.
>>97705091>Share your thing, it seems like most authors write Curze as the dumb kind of slasher villain But it's one of those sorry. It's when he's on macragge and the ultramarines are desperate cause they can't stop him so the ultra librarians just open a portal to the warp and throw him into it. Then some time later another portal opens and he comes out of him covered in blood and guts, with the implication being that the demons couldn't deal with him either so they just sent him back.
gonna force myself to sit down and paint at least 2 models today to brute force past burnout/depression. can any 40kg frens give kind words of encouragement?
>>97705103I send Princess to give her a smooch
>>97705126NO KEEP THE WHITE WOMEN AWAY FROM THE DOG
>>97705124I started a spread sheet to track my mini purchases, my pile of shame really shrank when I had a graph to track my progress.
Curze is such an unapologetic retarded asshole that he wraps around the cringe scale to actually being cool again
>>97705103Whats the catch?
>>97705129do not the daemon dog
>>97705135Isn't that also the case with perturabo
>>97705120That I endorse. If you're going to make a villain properly cackling evil, you gotta go all the way to the balls.
>>97705140Different kind of retarded asshole but yeah you could say that
>>97705140Perty has his moments, but it's really more from the iron warriors rather than Perty himself.
>>97705136she's the catch
>>97704462This took me about two hours. Need to finish another four. Then I'll be free to slop chop orkz.
>>97705143I also like when after saving lorgar from dying at the hands of corax he saw the gal vorbak and said he made a mistake in saving lorgar and that he should had let him die.
>>97704982>luv konradThis part isn't even true. Everybody thought Curze was a sperg, even the majority of his legion.
>>97705108No, that's one of the pussy magnet trio's armies
they are chaos space marines that hate chaos but still enjoy the torture mutilation and suffering of humankind?
Can a necrontyr recommend a good non-metallic primary color for 'crons?
>>97705199That's mainly the legionnairesthat were press ganged into becoming space marines after nostramo started sending the criminal dregs as recruits rather than the original high class stock when conrad was first found.Konrad and his high command were actually planning to clean up their legion before the heresy kicked off, but that went side ways.
>>97705199They still loved him in their own twisted way. When several NL warbands assaulted the fortress in which the assassin who killed him was, they recovered a recording of this final moments and the night lords watching the recording literally cried when watching and listening to him.
I've been playing Dark Crusade a bit but holy fuck did I forget how much I didn't like those Dawn of Wars. I have no hope for whatever kind of slop 4 is going to be. Utterly wretched I can only think.
>>97705230>they recovered a recording of this final moments and the night lords watching the recording literally cried
>>97705233i played a shitload when i was younger, but honestly just prefer the smaller squad focused combat of 2.Not too excited for 4 after i've seen the gameplay.
>>97705242The first has a lot going for it that's just let down by having experienced more modern RTSes with decent programming.
Total War is going to be more disappointing than DoW4 because it's going to be more Total War and Total War fucking sucks donkey dick>win early game and snowball >spam doomstacks and slowly paint the map your color >rinse and repeat this formula for a decade
>>97704723kekI almost never bother with used shit anymore since it's always some dumbass trying to play games>he can see everyone else is selling new boxes for 61 bucks, no shipping>he wants 50 bucks and got cheeky and put 10 dollars shippingWhy the fuck would that be a deal for meDumb faggot.
The fact they didn't call it Total Warhammer proves they're soulless
Why is there so much sexual tension within the Imperium?
>>97704817THose are literally the Ashen Claws though, Charcharizards trade with them.
>>97705236They have lots of moments that show them as the most humane traitor legion, which is funny cause they're all psychos
>>97704796>>97704777>tripsInvalidated by the fact>loyalist geneseed traitorsHas been a thing since the 1990s, like Minotaurs being loyalist iron warriors or the entire Grey Knights being loyalist traitor psykers.
>>97705223Inside-out necronsNeon green with black trim
>>97704815>the narrative has only a few justifications for Imperium infighting and very few actual examplesThat isn't true at all, why do you keep posting this?>>97704802>Badab war>novaterra interregnum>age of apostasy>age of unbelief
>>97705264It's a little redundant. TWW was a big deal because it generated TOWkiddies, exposing them to an unknown and forgotten setting and convincing them it was TOTALLY POGGERS SUMMON LE ELECTOR COUNTS. Whether it was good or not was quite nearly irrelevant.Everybody already knows 40k. They've long since made up their mind on whether they love it or hate it. TW40k is not going to create any new fans and it's unlikely to do anything interesting with the TW formula.
I got some Knight Armigers and love them, but what else do I buy with Knights that isn't the giant Questorious?
>>97705264You forgot>new faction is overpowered>any lord with a difficult start will have to be buffed>CA will give up on trying to make a challenging game in favor of every game just being "your buffs are way too strong, enjoy">if the buffs are meant to be strong, but broken, CA will not fix them because it's too hardThough I expect many of the problems in TWW will be fixed in 40k simply because you don't have as many 'gimmick lords' and instead it's just "terminator with power fists" or "rapist" or "does lots of drugs".
>>97705291Knight Abominant.
>>97704847No they don't.Carcharodons fight in silence while Night Lords love blasting vox screams and torture mix tapes. Carcharodons go for the kill while Night Lords love crippling slow deaths. Carcharodons are ascetics while Night Lords are flashy pirates who love trophies. There is 0 sadism and demented prophecies and a lot of angst and being obsessed with the void. Space Sharks, like the the Astral Claws, are the remains of the exiled Terran Raven Guard predation fleets. There is at least 1 who is hybridized with World Eater but it's unclear how widespread chimera GS is within the chapter, doubtful that it's common. The only Night Lord shit in the lore is 1 NL chaos sorcerer referring to them as brothers once, which is a newfag take from not understanding that space marines with different genesires call each other brother all the time.
>>97705279I swear there was a chapter with the rumor of emperor’s children geneseed as well.
>>97705285It's already obvious they're really not trying to up the scale to something truly impressiveI mean, yeah, it's pretty neat they have an engine that can render hundreds of dudes fighting eachother at once. But they won't push it to the scale that people always imagined 40k at.I want a squad of titans wading through thousands of orks on a battlefield the size of a small city. I want to field enough Valkyries to blot out the sky. But likely the armies will max out at like 2 or 3 hundred dudes and maybe like 8 or 9 vehicles.
>>97705291Nothing :^)
>>97705223Just do Thokt bro
>>97705273oh true, that must've been who i was mixing them up with.got any fun ashen claw fluff?
>>97705309I forgot those guys existed.Every time I hear that dynasty name it makes me think of that one Piraka.
>>97705312They are both exiled Raven Guard. Ashen Claws went piratical renegade but not the chaos kind they just hate the 40k Imperium and want Corax to come back. Their chapter master has a human wife so they're fucking weird.
I FOUND IT!
>>97705340I love twin sisters. Great story trope.
>>97705340Nice.
>>97705304People guess the Red Scorpions because for a chapter obsessed with perfection and flawless geneseed purity they keep their lineage a secret.
>>97705291We have some fantastic medium sized Knights coming soon but I would definitely suggest getting a couple Knight Castellans and a few Cerastus as well.
>>97705312Nothing is complete or spelled out but the names of their homeworld is ancient Assyrian after the goddess Atargatis, a goddess of water (ironically their world is barren) and the names used like Narat or Nehat appear to come from balkan countries like Albanian, Bulgaria and Croatia (though alternately they may be of Tatar/Turkic origins).This makes sense when you consider the Asiatic dustlands were the homeland of the Terran Born raven guard, a region that sounds like it is either middle east or central asia, and the early campaigns of the raven guard before Corax were fought in the central asian regions of Terra against the tyrannical dictatorship of Ursh.So a turkic origin is probably intended for the Ashen Claws, and the world of Atargatis is named such to further indicate a Turko-Mideastern origin.
Also I was thinking about grabbing some red corsair bits and making some fucked up renegade Ashen claws but probably not.But Red Corsair bits are close to what other renegades and pirates like Ashen Claws should be, with their cobbled together look. Maybe throw in MK III bits.
>>97705377Ashen Claws are not chaos corrupted
>>97705399Good thing red corsair armor mostly lacks chaos symbols then, since they are renegades and pirates rather than full on zealots.
>>97704462current wip.....trying to get out of painters block
>>97705418Its tough when you got lots of Models already but keep pushing through baby girl.
>>97704462Bout to get some work done on the fellas
>>97705346
Neurogaunts are a bit of a let down
>>97705479Would you like to expand on your opinion or sit there like a retard
>not running Adepta Sororitas
>>97705493
I need to kitbash a deldar Raider into a Ravager. What should I use to build the side cannons? I was considering using aeldari support weapons, but are there better options?
>>97705492well theres not much neuro about them, they don't have any real psychic ability. They just get synapse which is a bit of a let down
>>97705276>They have lots of moments that show them as the most humane traitor legionExamples? With sources please?Page numbers even?
>>97705493>le heckin wholesome quirk chungus safe bdsm appealing but not too attractive reddit faction
>>97705068>I dreamt that the tau attacked my old high school back in the day.Was it entertaining to remember at least?>We call these hanmer dreams. Very similar to the famous bionicle dreams.What's the causes for these sorts of things?I've hand Bionicle dreams too.I don't recall a Warhammer 40k dream yet though.
>>97705453>that dust>those spruegates>those moldlines>those gapsyikes!
>>97705573>Those nomodelsYikes!
>>97705583I've got plenty, some hellblasters that'll actually go in the collage evenunlike yours, when you fail to provide a single timestamped WIP and just post a finished pic of your dogshit paintjobs :)
Why don't models have their points value listed anywhere?
>>97705599I've posted them plenty of times when shitting on youYou will just shift the goalposts to you having more or pretend my actually completed paintjobs are worse than your rattlecan sloppa like you always do so you'll not get them anymore, especially when you try to demand them without posting yours timestamped ;)
Is a physical codex worth it? Does it have cool art or anything else to entice me?
>Dragons in warhammer 40,000 without it feeling like an out of place fantasy creatureI know there's the kroot dragon anon, and that Heldrakes are jet plane dragons.But what if there was a 5 headed dragon like pic related that was like a daemonic manifestation of chaos? One head for each chaos god plus one for chaos undivided, as a beast or maybe a herald or messenger of the gods to tell certain great champions what their god wants them to do. I think that could be cool, since its a daemon whose form is born out of the human ideas of a dragon. Maybe even just 4 heads and its a deamon prince of all four, like Belakor but this prince actually obeys the gods. That would have to retcon Belakor being the only deamon prince raised by the four gods but who the fuck knows GW opinion on that this week with how they go back and forth on the existence of undivided deamon prince
>>97705600Check out wahapedia
>>97705605Winged Squiggoth let's go
wtf is realspace
>>97705631Normal space/ reality when you're not in the Warp or the Webway or any other dimension.
>>97705304sons of the phoenixof course, they are loyal sons of rogal dorn, and DEFINITELY not the phoenician, IGNORE the color scheme and chapter symbol, NEVER MIND how they were created after cawl may or may not have began using traitor geneseed in the creation of new legions, and their fervent devotion to the imperial creed DEFINITELY isn't compensating for anything shameful in their lineage whatsoever
>>97705631>marneus calgar goes to the real world, dude
>>97705603Back in the day they were, but considering that shit can be invalidated by a balance update they've really losses a lot of value.You're better off just using battlescribe/new recruit and wahapedia with an adblocker browser.
>>97705603As a rulebook, not at all. They're usually invalidated within two weeks of hitting shelves, if not before that. The art and fluff is nice of course but it's nothing you can't just look up yourself later, and 90% of both are just recycled from book to book. If you're a hardcore physical media guy or a collector then you do you, but if you were I don't think you'd be asking about it, and even then I really wouldn't for the price GW is asking for them. If you're dead set on collecting them though, you'll probably get them pretty cheap on like ebay or something once the new edition hits and they're not the most current book anymore.
>>97704372I like orks :D
>>97705712you are going to be REALLY happy about 11 or 12 days from now
>40k has tons of blood and gore>Girl has her tits and ass hanging out? Gotta cover that up quick!I don't understand these people, wouldn't the former be more horrifying than the latter?
>Using contrast over an Eldar gem area that's painted with gold and a bit of silver is supposed to brighten the thing>Instead it's dark red and don't look brightIs this because I didn't thin my paints?
My only problems with painting besides not thinning is my hands slightly shake and I don't know brush control. Do I use it like a pencil for detailed areas like eyes?
>>97704683Just use Greenstuff. Your models can be as voluptuous as you want.
>>97705725thinning with a medium can help, but so long as you don't lay it on too thick you don't really need it.do you have a pic of of what how it turned out, i know when ever i'm doing colourd metalics contrast can can be rather dark which is why i try and use the brightest metals i have, like stomhost silver.
>>97705418MUMMY
>>97705716Bro doesnt have many orks from memory, like a few squads and thats about it
>>97705725Contrast paint doesn't brighten shit the point of it is to shade, it's just shading the recesses more.Also the baal red contrast out of the pot has insane coverage may as well just be a base paint.
>>97705727>My only problems with painting besides not thinning is my hands slightly shake/wip/ actually has a useful video about this, also getting some more potassium in your diet can help to so i hope you like bananashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9gEyes are always tricky so focus on your brush control first since it requires a lot of it, and also getting the right amount of paint on your brush with a good tip.
>>97705723Blame American puritanism, which has its roots in England. Extreme violence is fine, but God forbit a kid sees a nipple.
>>97705738Ye, it's right here >>97704806
Was gonna model today but instead read Project Hail Mary. Feel really lame for putting it off until now but it's really rad.
>>97705762oh ok, i can see that one hanging off his gun is pretty dark.red generally work better with a bright gold unerneath, but silver should be fine as well.as for applying you can use the same technics as the gemestone paint tutorial, but contrast won't be as glossy.https://paint.warhammer.com/videos/gems/As for warp Itandan warp spiders, i think most aspects stay the same to their temple, but you could invert the iyanden colours so mainly blue with yellow accents.
>>97705744That was a poser.
>>97704756/myguys/; an Ultramarines Successor of an unknown founding whose Chapter Master learns the true nature of their geneseed directly from the prior Chapter Master during their grooming for the role
at some point gotta wonder if its not ordo astartes messing with foundings just to have controlled opposition with "flawed" geneseed stocks
Let's say what do you guys think would be refreshed next edition for your army.Tyranids are probably getting a new trygon, gargoyles and warriors.What do you think your army is getting?>>97705728I like the crab hands and plastic jewels.
Anyone have any expectations for the bl celebration thing later today
>>97704756the borean butchers
>>97705814More slop, a model from a book nobodies read
>>97705814ideally? beheading Dan Abnett on livestreamrealistically? nothing
>>97705811>What do you think your army is getting?At the end of the edition there will be a Night Lords battleforce.It still won't have the new raptors in it.It will be the only way to get the Night Lords upgrade sprue after the CP and KT box go OoP.
>>97705815I wonder where O&Tfag posts now
>>97705863he posts his skaven sloppa in wip and aosg now
>>97705871I post in both of those and haven't seen any of his skaven in months
I know that the current edition is getting rather mixed reviews with many of them being negative but is it any decent for low-point casual games?My friend is a vidya secondary but he actually builds and paints minis for his small collection and follows the lore but he never played 40k before. I tried to talk him into one of the mini-agnostic alternative wargames but he really wants to try the "real" Warhammer.I dropped the mainline games with the 9th edition since it was too shit even for me so I have no experience with 10th. He has about 750pts of Marines, mostly Primaris Infantry of course. Would 10e work well for this kind of games if no WAACfaggotry is involved?>inb4 Kill TeamNo, the game is simply abysmal dogshit.
>>97704479And not every man that sucks dick is gay, right?
>>97705897combat patrol is actually made to be exactly that.
>>97705902No, not really. We don't want to play with fixed lists and modified profiles that are different from the main game. From what I heard, Combat Patrol is extremely unbalanced even for casual games.
>>97705863He posted some world eaters in /wip/ I think
>>97705907then play 750pts dude, it'll be a bit skewed but that's about it.or use crusade extra stuff
>>97705897Is this copy pasted.
>>97705933Half the posts in this dumpster fire of a general are copy pasted so probably.
>>97704806If you do aspects outside their assigned colours jes comes to your house at night and rapes you
>>97705897Me and my friends do 500 point games when we're trying new armies and they're pretty fun, you sound miserable though so I doubt you'd enjoy it
>>97705933Yes, I got no response in the previous thread.
>>97705951>you sound miserableBecause I didn't like 9e and 10e seems to have more in common with it than with previous editions or because post-2018 Kill Team is the worst specialist game ever released?
>>97705960I'm having fun with both bro I think it's a you issue
>>97705967I guess 7e was flawless since I know a Tau player that loved it.
>>97705976nta, but i honestly kinda miss 7e, even by the end of it it was such a bonkers time building broken armies.
>>97705985Nah it was tiresome in the long run. Rules-wise and balance-wise, 8e with no codexes was the best we had since the 4e, I said it.
>>97705897Nah, 10th is trash, no matter the format
>>97705897It can work but you need to self impose restrictions, here's mine>2x units, 4x battleline >no units above 250 pts>only one unit t9-10 no t11+
>>97706003Honestly have to agree on 8e launchinb4 someone posts the niche case of waacfags spamming vultures and drones, that didn't happen in real games
>>97706003>Nah it was tiresome in the long run.Eh, different mindsets, my local meta was just to embrace the madness and we had fun, it did help that most people were playing maelstrom missions.8th ed index hammer was definitely balanced, but it did require the rule of 3 since spam was so strong. conscript spam with commissars and fearless cultist with Abby were menaces, and then when the deathguad got released you had the poxwalker generator strat.
>>97706019>>97706035Like a clockwork.
>>97706019>>97706056>that didn't happen in real gamesi know it's crazy, but different area's have different meta's, i didn' have razor wing spam but i did have to deal with drone, cultist, and conscript spam.Thankfully Drone spam got dealt with by rule of 3, and commissars get hard nerf to being useless dealt with conscripts, but through out most of 8th there were still multiple people running 120-180 cultist with either abby or the Iron warrior WT fearless aura.Personally I was running bricks of 90 tzaangors and 60 plague bearers, with a Knight tyrant as firepower.So saying it didn't happen in real games because you never faced it is just moronic.
>>97705744so? that doesn’t mean I can’t add to my pile.
>>97706090based WAACfag
>>97706090>So saying it didn't happen in real games because you never faced it is just moronic.If I didn't experience something, it never happened. Everything that I wasn't a part of is simply a made-up story. It is my personal involvement that constitutes something real.
>>97706113solid argument, unfortunately i'm inhabiting your walls.
>>97704895Why is that child crying for a space marine that literally doesn't care about her life, why does that child have giant tits
>>97705654There's a blatant WB gene chapter as well.
>>97706124This explains why the gloryhole in my bedroom feels so good on my penis.
>>97706129Nah, that's Amalgamation's responsibility.
>>97706113unfathomably based schizo
The issues with calling any edition before 8th good are as follows 1. This board is contrarian in nature and has a bias to older things, so picking out any older edition as the greatest of all time is something anons will agree with for the lulz2. Statistically speaking, no one played the older editions compared to 8th, 9th, and 10th. The number of players we have now is just astronomically beyond what any other edition could ever dream of3. For the folks who did play and aren't participating in issue 1, we have to acknowledge that the "water level" of optimization and skill back then was much lower. It should say something that the esteemed posters in 2017 who allegedly mastered 7th and braved the new frontier of 8th didn't see or understand any of the metas the edition had. So if you rereleased Nth edition today, it would get cracked open by every spike, timmy and johnny 4. We all have different metrics for what makes an edition good. I'm sure some anon's standard is how accurate to a WW2 moulded view of how war should be conducted. 5. Most anons here have never rolled a die in any edition
>>97706128yeah salamanders covenant of fire, their symbol is book on fire
>>97705605that would still be an out of place fantasy creaturein order to fit in 40k it has to do with things exclusive to 40kfor example it would have to look alien and/or it would have to be tech-themeda chaos demon engine or tyranid biomorph shaped like a dragon work, and it's what's therean admech servitorised beast or animal-shaped titan or dark eldar grotesque flesh sculpture could also workit could be the shape of an exalted ctan shard or a canoptek constructif you want it to be a discreet thing separate from already existing creatures, it could be a random colossal alien species that ships could encounter in the void of space, but it has to look alien and not much like your run of the mill dragonotherwise the one place where an out-of-place fantasy creature like that works is exodites
>>97706221NTA but depending on how you define dragon, I think magmadroths should just be in the salamanders army list
>>97705301They arent world eaters. He called him a mongrel and likened him to the world eater because the carcharodons were all tested on and went crazy so they were retired and exiled. Before Corax was found, hence "the forgotten one" title. They all have ash blindness and the Ashen Claw is saying Bail Sharr is freak just like an insane world eater
>>97705557>What causes thisAutism
>>97706210>we have to acknowledge that the "water level" of optimization and skill back then was much lowerGiven that a lot of newer players struggle with many basic concepts in older editions I honestly feel like the oppisite is the case, you have people that have been playing for many years that are used identifing a systems exploitable mechanics and being able optimise for it.8th ed index unit building was cracked on release, assault pile in and charge declarations took a month, when stratagems were thrown into the mix you obviously had your strong ones, but the good players new how to use abuse the lesser know ones in a pinch, e.g. tson players turning their sorcerer into spawn so that they could have a unit that could block for another character.You serverly underestimate actual experienced WAACfags, because running a netlist and actually knowing how to run an army to abuse to the rules are very different types of players.10th ed has taken away a lot of limitations and in the rules that most older players were used to accounting for and dealing with in an optimised fashion, the easist example would be the removal of forc org, the ease of building a list these days lacks the necesity of optimising your force org slot usage since the only limit is Ro3 while in prevouis eds if you decided to spam a unit you could go the risk of being serverly lacking in an aspect of your army, it's why allies in 6th ed was so broken.
>>97706277I don't think force org would really change anything, a meta army was using the best blood angel detachment with all the cheapest generic space marine stuff. The modern player wouldn't "account" for realism when taking their fast attack tax, they also wouldn't "account" for any WAAC accusations and just run 5 lascannons on their devastators instead of watering the unit down with heavy bolters
>>97705600They are everywhere. Do you not have the 40K app? You don’t even need the codex to see the point values.
>>97706289>they also wouldn't "account" for any WAAC accusations and just run 5 lascannons on their devastators instead of watering the unit down with heavy boltersfirestly, devs can only have 4 heavy weapons, secondly no one that actually plays even semi-optimally has ever run heavy bolters in a dev squad pre-8th, it's always been a single loadout type unit since split fire wasn't available unless you were playing space wold longfangs.How long have you been play warhammer, because that comment really shows how out of touch you are from previouse edition as well as your understanding of waacfags.here's an example a min-maxed devsquad+character in 7th>4 gravcannon+amps so you able to deal with any vehicle in the game any medium-heavy save units>Catacaptain with SS so he has a 3++ rerolling 1's>bonus points if you were impfist so you could take the -1 cover save relic but others would somtimes just run a 55 point div inquisitor and hope they roll ignores cover>cata captain gives the whole squad slow and purepusful so they able to fire at maxium capacity even while moving>squad of 7 so you have spare wounds for either the captain or the grav gunners>Shove them in a droppod you trook in Fast Attack because the only worthwhile unit competing in that slot is bikes and other transportsAnd by the end of 7th that wasn't even a very crazy unit, just a showing of how to min-max a pretty average base unit.
>>97706345>secondly no one that actually plays even semi-optimally has ever run heavy bolters in a dev squad pre-8th, it's always been a single loadout type unit since split fire wasn't available unless you were playing space wold longfangs.I have posted army lists here in the past and I was told specifically, "don't bring all lascannons it is waac" until 8th waac was very much a boogeyman>How long have you been play warhammer, because that comment really shows how out of touch you are from previouse edition as well as your understanding of waacfags.I don't think Waacfags are even a defined thing, its a bunch of stormwind fallacies
>>97706345Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't tanks have to pay a tax per gun they had?That would be fucking miserable to model on top of having to deal with shity loadouts for infantry to maximize damage on some units.It's a feel's bad system no matter how I look at it.
>>97706221Run of the mill dragons look cool and are fine. Hell, people constantly wish GW to add the Old Ones/lizardmen into 40k. And most lizardmen are mostly just humanoid + reptile head and tail.Just add dragons to them as an army.or fuck it, make the Old Ones into dragons.It'd also add some context to War in Heaven which is pretty cool. Immortal nearly god like race of dragons and their armies of elves and orks fighting against the immortal vampiric star gods and their legions of undead soldiers.Like this shit sounds like your typical metal album cover, you know, the thing 40k is inspired by.
REAL SECONDARY HOURS INNIT
>>97705897Tried another anon recipe and it was exactly as good as he said>800 point army>240 cap on vehicles>no epic hero
>>97706359Dragons are cringe.
>>97706350>I don't think Waacfags are even a defined thing, its a bunch of stormwind fallacieshonestly WAAC is a very lousley defined term, a lot of scrubs use it to mean someone that understand the game better than them while others mean people that will try and bend/hide cheating to win, personally in the context i'm atm it just means the highest form of minmaxing, but honestly if i ever heard someone call another WAAC i'd laugh at them for being a fag that reads too many reddit stories.There's always been autist around here that don't play games that just spout off retarded advice here, the only time you should ever takes someone advice when posting a list is if they first ask what your local meta is like, since 9/10 building a list without consideration of what armies you'll be facing can leave you with egg on your face.Hell even in HH2.0 people kept swearing up and down about HSS lascannon teams being WAAC when really they were just a filter unit for player to get over and deal with.>>97706351Depends on the vehicle, stuff like the leman russ you could swap out the battlecannon for other turrets and they could be free to costing points, while side grades like sponons would usually have to be purchased as extra, but that was still very dependant on the vehicle because some could just come wither everything already equiped except stuff like sponson weaposn and camonets.>It's a feel's bad system no matter how I look at itI would go back to unit upgrades costing points in a heartbeat, even if they weren't all pointed correctly because i hate paying a premium for a unit so i'm forced to run it's best loadout and having 25pts left in my list i can't fill.
>>97706365>people actually talking about playing the game>secondarywdhmbt
>>97706393>>I would go back to unit upgrades costing points in a heartbeat, even if they weren't all pointed correctly because i hate paying a premium for a unit so i'm forced to run it's best loadout and having 25pts left in my list i can't fill.NTA but willing to bet they will generalize heavy guns soon, or at least to marines. Like what they did to combi-weapons and power weapons.
>>97706393>i hate paying a premium for a unit so i'm forced to run it's best loadout and having 25pts left in my list i can't fill.That sounds like min maxing and actual autism at the same time, not everything has to be exactly 2k points. You give the impression that you are throwing away an entire system out of ocd over 25 points.What's so wrong with players paying a premium to bring whatever they want as a established unit?
>>97706368Never forget Primarisfags originally hated terminators, dunked on them almost daily here and relished telling everyone that the aggressors were the permanent replacement for them.>inb4 a primarisharter responds saying that is untrue, terminators were always loved, aggressors were never the replacement etc etc
>notice a mold line right before shading>scrape it off and spot replace primer>first coat of paint blends right in>mfw
>>97704753Nigga, how can I eat this pasta with no sauce?
>>97706400but theres no models being posted, and no proof of games happening
>>97706221I appreciate the effort post anon, I disagree with the tyranid biomorph part, having a dragon with a nid head I think would break the tyranid mold for their racial creature shapes, but I dunno that cthulu looking monster in the bottom right looks sick.>if you want it to be a discreet thing separate from already existing creatures, it could be a random colossal alien species that ships could encounter in the void of space, but it has to look alien and not much like your run of the mill dragonGiant alien dragons that you need a space ship to fight is cool, but I don't see why you think that fits 40k, but a powerful multiheaded demon that is vaugely dragonoid shaped doesnt fit 40k. Archaons mount is a dragon demon essentially, I'm proposing a similar creature but with two more heads and more draconic head shapes. That void dragon design looks like 40k MLP crossover fanart
>>97706432no one posting photos is not evidence that they don't have models or are playing games. why don't you upload a photo of the outside of your home otherwise you are a homeless person posting from the library.
>>97704462Working on my leaders for my Army of Faith detachment. Celestine is a wobbly ass recast so not looking forward to transporting her for games.
>>97705304Death eagles are confirmed EC loyalists from the heresy
>>97706439anyone can watch a battle report mr ausfag
>>97706439don't bother, anon, i don't think he even understands what a "secondary" is
>>97706445anyone can play a game, you can do it for $5 with tabletop simulator or less if you're using cardboard pieces you've cut out yourself.
its the same asshole same time posting this rubbish, same time every fucking day
>>97706451im aware of what it is, its you, yeah you lmao
>>97706415>What's so wrong with players paying a premium to bring whatever they want as a established unit?Because that makes balancing units harder and when people compare units if it's overcosted because of a certain weapon/wargear it COULD thats makes passing it over so much easier.The reason why we have so many character datasheets now is because of this limitation now, when back in the day you could just have 1 space marine captain/chaos lord pointed, and then focus on the wargear and fine tuning those points cost so people have the ability to customize without having to have a bunch of datasheets for essentially the exact same model, this extended to units for the rest of the game and the only reason why we're hear is because GW likes selling models so they have an incentive to make certain loadouts more apealing each edition so people would have to chnage up their list.At the end of the day, having an extra degree to balance units is good and it's really annoying that GW decided to get rid of it once they finally leaned heavily on digital which would have been the perfect system to implent small points adjustments when needed.
>weak bait on a saturday morningjust go paint instead of wasting your time, anons
>>97706478no worries, the lolcow will wake up in a couple hours and we'll be back to the usual
>>97706478cant paint if you've got no models
>>97706466If you care about balance then you should care more about epic characters, they are the one big issue of this edition for many factions.A boxlocked unit is far easier to balance than a bunch of minimal cost units being picked to stack everything into a hammer unit for gameplay purposes.
>>97704629Fire strike servo turrets, maybe?>just kinda goofy and the rules suck but in theory one could like them
>>97706484that's a shame. we should start a gofundme to get this anon his first models.
>>97706428Nuln oil upon ye
>>97704629speed freeks with heaps of aircraft
>>97706493I want to buy those or a bunker just to be silly, but I doubt they will get good rules this edition.
>>97706500>>97706496>>97706453>>97706439ECKS DEE
>>97705340The outfit on the right isn't accurate to the colors of the right mech
>>97706496please do, i wouldnt mind a squad of raveners and maybe a trygon
>>97706497soon, bröther
>>97706416>Primarisfags originally hated terminatorsNo, they didn't. I never hated terminators, I hated their god awful anatomy which made them hunchbacked retards with arms growing out of their ears.And just wanted them to be updated, and GW finally did that.
>>97706485>A boxlocked unit is far easier to balance than a bunch of minimal cost units being picked to stack everything into a hammer unit for gameplay purposes.GW rules writers barely do any work to begin with, so making them actually do their job would be a good change of pace for them, maybe then they'll collectively play more than 4 games a week.>If you care about balance then you should care more about epic charactersGW wants to sell those models, and the only way they know how is to couple faction reliant rules onto those characters, it's by design.If GW wanted to fix the problem they would tone down the rules on some of those characters and instead disperse them out through different detachment abilities and enhancements, which is really the last wargear-esque system in 40k.
>>97706350"WAAC" is a term that people came up with during an era where people were branching out and realising that there are better designed and better balanced games than 40k and that 40k could be much better. So then the people who attach their personal worth to that of a brand started spamming "WAAC" and "beer and pretzels" to defend 40k's flaws.
>>97706539ok waacfag
>>97706539personally i blame 1d4chan kids for spreading and misuing the term back in the day, but even back then everyone had their own definition of the term, so now it being it's lost a lot of meaning when it's thrown around these days.
This is a corn syrup and goyslop kind of game
>>97706565That explains why you are here!
>>97706565This is a corn syrup and goyslop kind of post
>>97706563this thread wasn't any better, competitive play was the boogeyman for a while
>>97706565you'd know you fat cunt
>>97706563Not really, it's a self-explanatory term. People more concerned within winning than having a game that's close or balanced or narratively engaging.
>>97706530>maybe then they'll collectively play more than 4 games a week.I would tell you that most people would love to play more than 4 games a week.I get called a freak for making the time to play at least 5, I would play more if I got paid to do so.
WAAC and Competitive players in general have become the Stormwind Fallacy of 40k these days. As if some of the biggest competitive players aren't also massive lore nerds with lovingly painted and converted models.
>>97706590As another anon pointed out, it is a stormwind fallacy.Playing to win and playing narratively are not mutually exclusive. >People more concerned within winning than having a game that's close or balancedThe issue there is that past editions wern't balanced, they expected the player to balance it themselves and understand how good a unit is and not spam it. issue being everyone sucked at evaluating units
>>97706597the biggest competitive players dont give a fuck about the lore and get shit commission painted
>>97706591>I would play more if I got paid to do so.and the crazy thing is is that the rules writers are literally paid to do that to playtest their rules, which is why when they came out and said the team COLLECTIVELY plays about 4 games perweek to playtest the game many people were perplexed and pissed.I really wished GW stuck t with their community playtesting, working with groups like ITC and other tourny orgs, but retards kept leaking codexes, and GW didn't do the simplist thing of using custom watermarks when posting their docs to people.
>>97706597>that guy with the loyal 32 army? yeah he loves the lore the mostFuck you and fuck your mother!
>>97706612he could. Someone can like the lore and also choose to play competitively, just like how many folks don't really care about the lore and will play casually
>>97706598>Playing to win and playing narratively are not mutually exclusive.Playing to win can be narrative.But that's only part of the puzzle.List building to win is pretty much exclusive with playing narratively, and that's decided before you even get to play. It becomes quickly apparent that you're paying a metachasing cheesebot.
>>97706612Honestly the loyal32 battery was a necessary thing for a lot of imperial armies back in 8th, what's funny is that it was usally coupled with a BA smashcaps and a castellan knight, but one of it's stongest showing ever was a guy running a catachan brigade built for melee and with a themed castellan with them not even adding any smash captains.
>>97706622you can play narratively with the most net listed meta chased list though. Theres a reason that without prior knowledge of an edition, no one can tell if a list is for narrative play or competitive play.
>>97706598>issue being everyone sucked at evaluating unitswhy do you think this?
>>97706598I was once called a win at all costs faggot because I decided to bring 3 tyranofex to a game after they buffed the casino canon.You can't fucking tell me you wouldn't want to gamble with big bug guns for the fun of it after it happened. The reality is that people get extremely salty over things they don't like case and point being mad about a third of my crusher stampede army being 600 points of casino canon bugs.I kid you not, I was also called a waacfag because my army had too much OC2 bodies when I bought 3 5 man squads of intercessors and 2 impulsors to escort my company of heroes and sternguard, these people will find any excuse to shit on you even if you brought nothing but firstborn models and the razorback they rode it on.
>>97706631>you can play narratively with the most net listed meta chased list though.I say you cannot, because meta lists are just spam lists. Sure you could come up with some paper thin reason as to why you have six gladiator reapers in your Black Templar army, but it's only ever cope.
>>977066331. The history of the game with WAAC being a boogeyman lead to dozens of superstitions2. the metas for past editions weren't obvious to every player and historically took a lot longer to emerge 3. this thread has almost always been unaware of what the meta would be for any given format
>>97706631>Theres a reason that without prior knowledge of an edition, no one can tell if a list is for narrative play or competitive play.Seriosly, you could run a broken yet fluffy GK army back in 5th, or in 7th ed where you could run a thematic Battle company of space marines which gave everything in each demicompany free transportsPeople don't like the fact that WAAC and thematic aren't always mutally exlusive.
>>97706631well the narrative is suppose to inform your list if you are truly playing a narrative game. if the narrative for our game is your army is invading my planet and my guard are defending and your army is probing defenses or whatever you should probably encounter scouting units (sentinels, light infantry, mechanised infantry) and not the fucking meta spam 3 kasrkin and 4 rogal dorns and 3 krieg engineer army.
>>97706640>because meta lists are just spam listssomeone could just like the model, like blade guard were meta for a while and outright broken in the 9e box book. I'm sure loads of people would love to run max bladeguard
>>97706649>well the narrative is suppose to inform your list if you are truly playing a narrative game.that leads to a "debate phase" in setting up the game where people have to justify any unit choice, the heresy community already kind of does that and its obnoxious
>>97706640Say whatever you want but I win a lot of games against marines because retards are obsessed with wasting 130 points on scouts they never use properly and can't score for shit because they only bring 2 battlelines that are dead by turn 3.You may copy a list but you certainly don't know how to fucking play it.
>>97706651>someone could just like the modelAnd that's not the basis for a narrative list.
>>97706666"I want to tell a story with the models I like" is quintessential narrative play
Are there any armies that the rules of the game literally won't let you run in a narratively or lore accurate way? Knights and Inquisition come to mind as the only example. I don't really know much about xenos though.
>>97706675theres enough fluff that you can justify almost any army deployment
>>97706647>1. The history of the game with WAAC being a boogeyman lead to dozens of superstitionsIt really hasn't been, it's normally been what a sperg here calls their opponent in a totally real greentext about a game they had>2. the metas for past editions weren't obvious to every player and historically took a lot longer to emerge Just because tourny data wasn't as widely available doesn't mean metas weren't obvious, just look old forum post about transport hammer, leafblower, lash princes with obliterators. Seriously, visit forums like dakkadakka, Bolter and Chainsowrd, and 3++ is the new black and have a look and some of the old threads, player figured out the meta's of the editions and the only real shake up was when there was a new codex which wasn't even guaranteed for some armies.>3. this thread has almost always been unaware of what the meta would be for any given format/40kg/ is notorious for being filled with arm chair generels, honestly I miss when poster would make up pretend game stories and then get torn apart because they said something to proved they were nogames.
>>97706675If you play chaos you can just run anything with anything and it doesn't matter
>>97706655Oh I have found people like that, somehow my white scars successors get accused of being meta for using too many transports and storm speeders and not enough bikes, I'm tired of people shiting on the ATV, it's 60 points for a fast scoring units with either anti infantry or meta let brother tinnitus have some fun.>>97706666I like Primaris vehicles, I don't care if Mr quads dislikes them.>>97706675I'm offended that inquisition doesn't let me requisition a guard regiment or basic bitch intercessors just deathwatch.Personally I'm offended at the ending swarm detachment.
>>97706673>the models I like just happen to be the most optimized configuration for my army and doesn't even look like how my army looks like in its lore and recently went 10-0 at the grand piss tourneythe anti-narrative play
>>97706673I disagree. Not even GW agrees since they at least try to reign things in with the rule of three.I might really like all the chapter master models, but it wouldn't make much narrative sense to run them all together.
>>97706636B-but how?!?!?
>>97706597Because the brand fanboys called anyone pointing our flaws in the rules "WAAC", people have conflated wanting clear well written, better balanced rules with the "videogameification" of recent editions. You can want better written, better balanced rules and still want the game to be less abstract and more of a simulationist wargame.
>>97706686>It really hasn't been, it's normally been what a sperg here calls their opponent in a totally real greentext about a game they hadI've seen plenty of videoes and had chats back in the day of people threatening to "break out forgeworld" if people played waac . >Just because tourny data wasn't as widely available doesn't mean metas weren't obvious, just look old forum post about transport hammer, leafblower, lash princes with obliterators. Seriously, visit forums like dakkadakka, Bolter and Chainsowrd, and 3++ is the new black and have a look and some of the old threads, player figured out the meta's of the editions and the only real shake up was when there was a new codex which wasn't even guaranteed for some armies.yes some folks will figure it out eventually, but it took longer and like I mentioned not every player realized what the meta was, it had to spread by word of mouth (still does because people are still bad at evaluation without games) >/40kg/ is notorious for being filled with arm chair generels, honestly I miss when poster would make up pretend game stories and then get torn apart because they said something to proved they were nogames.and that plays into the issue, the skill of being able to read codexes completely in a vaccum and understand what will be good is a very rare skill.
>>97706675The better question is can I run my army in a narratively or lore accurate way and still win the game?Guardfags have struggled with this one because all edition they've head their army is S tier and the best in the game but the players respond with>that's unpossible I've lost all my games!because they are trying to run their army with leman russ commanders and bog standard infantry
>>97706691Someone could like deathwing knights, are they now expected to instantly know they are very good and run tax units to compensate?
>>97706640You can easily make up a scenario about ambushing a tank column or defending a motor pool or something like that. I wouldn't call that "paper thin" as long as you actually thought about the scenario.
>>97706692>I might really like all the chapter master models, but it wouldn't make much narrative sense to run them all together.for chaos there was an apoc detachment for lucius, ahriman, typhus,kharn and abaddon all to be ran together. It isn't off the table
>>97706699To be fair, games could be less generic if we had better terrain rules and we had other stuff to do than VP farming.>>97706707I hate being devils advocate but they have strong detachments and fun detachments, not universal detachments for their entire collection.Their pet peeve is that rules benefited some of their army not all their army, that is huge for guard players hence why everyone loved grizzled company.You have to have a special brand of specific autism to play guard please understand.
>>97706712Yes
>>97706714>I wouldn't call that "paper thin"I would. Anyone can imagine up any scenario they wish to excuse anything they want. But it's just that; an excuse.
>>97706716>apoc detachmentthat right there tells you what kind of battle you can expect to see those type of characters all gathering in one place. not for some rinky dink recon patrol.
>>97706736why is the game a recon patrol and not just a snapshot of a larger battle?/
>>97706727ok then, your model isn't plausible. Most people suck at evaluating units on their own, and if they are informed by say goonhammer they'd just be called netlisters
>tabletop discussionwhat the fuck, judging by the usual state of this thread I was sure nobody here actually plays
>>97706716Those guys have all canonically worked for Abaddon so it wouldn't be strange. Also it's an apocalypse game, so they're still just a dribble of a larger force. If I wanted an army of just Calgar, Dante, Helbrecht and whoever else, you'd have a tough time of convincing people it was a cosher narrative.
>>97706705>I've seen plenty of videoes and had chats back in the day of people threatening to "break out forgeworld" if people played waac . Yeah, there was a moment when FW did bring out some broken units, hell XV9's were a big part of my tau list back in 5th ed, but like a lot of things players heard stories about "broken FW" and the reputation stuck.>yes some folks will figure it out eventually, but it took longer and like I mentioned not every player realized what the meta was, it had to spread by word of mouth (still does because people are still bad at evaluation without games) Yes and No, you're right that ease of information these days is so much easier today, but in terms of edition metas it was still a very like transport hammer that was quite common knowledge but still dictated by a groups local meta. In terms of rule optimisation, like i said the forums were full of it and tourny reports/breakdowns, so when it comes to people that fall into that optimisation catagory it hasn't really changed too much desu.>and that plays into the issue, the skill of being able to read codexes completely in a vaccum and understand what will be good is a very rare skill.Really, my play groups over the years may have been outlyers but the most common advice that was thrown around over the years was "read your fucking codex" when a someone asked what was good, which was gernerally heard and understood after the person did that and had a couple of games to refine their playstyle, and this wasn't just one person saying it, this was multiple people from multiple different groups. I'm starting to understand why my state is know as the competitive state in my country
>>97706752Who puts the models on the mat?Who sniffs the bottle of paints?We do! We do!
>>97706755>If I wanted an army of just Calgar, Dante, Helbrecht and whoever else, you'd have a tough time of convincing people it was a cosher narrative.That gets into the debate phase problem (and also I don't think you can run them together legally atm)
>>97706752I've really missed talkling about bullshit tabletop stuff so i'm been letting it all out this thread.but now i have to sleep
>>97706756>Really, my play groups over the years may have been outlyers but the most common advice that was thrown around over the years was "read your fucking codex" when a someone asked what was good, which was gernerally heard and understood after the person did that and had a couple of games to refine their playstyle, and this wasn't just one person saying it, this was multiple people from multiple different groups. I'm starting to understand why my state is know as the competitive state in my countryas this thread and many others will show, just reading the codex doesn't tell you what is actually good
>>97706752that’s cause on weekdays most of the people posting are neets, or a person phoneposting from work or school and don’t have the time to put effort into posts. now its the weekend the mentally stable can take their time discussing rules and metas without having to worry about needing to get back to whatever task they need to do.
>>97706768>That gets into the debate phase problemI wouldn't really consider that a problem. If you have a robust narrative it wouldn't be an issue. If all you have is: >They were all at Dante's birthday party when they got teleported to the battlefield by a daemon!Then I think it's quite right that people would not take that well.>and also I don't think you can run them together legally atmNo, you can't, but this is just a response to the idea that taking whatever models you think is cool is a good narrative tool.
>>97706755That might not be an appropriate army for general pick up games/pitched battles, but an ideal ruleset would allow for scenarios where it could work. Like scenarios where you control the fellowship in LotR SBG.
>>97706796or a mission where the blood angels have ka'bandha on their side
>>97706779>just reading the codex doesn't tell you what is actually goodIf you play the game it kinda does, the most important thing is keeping in mind what point level and local meta you'll be playing against.Honestly my favourite example wasn't a younger kid at a store only had a small collection, so he poured over his 6th ed nids codex with 1kpt games in mind, his chosen strat revolved around swarm lord and a squad of hive guard, which if you went to any forum asking for advice you would normally be met by people saying they're weak, but since he stuck to purely 1k games very few armies had the tools to deal with that unit and the kid became dominant.So the most important thing to couple with reading your codex is ACTUALLY PLAYING FUCKING GAMES, since that'll give the context need to understand your rules and refine your lists.
>>97706802>wasn'twas*
>>97706802>If you play the game it kinda does, the most important thing is keeping in mind what point level and local meta you'll be playing against.anon, I'm not trying to be rude or anything of the sort but you contradicted yourself pretty fast there; you cannot know a local meta just by reading YOUR codex >Honestly my favourite example wasn't a younger kid at a store only had a small collection, so he poured over his 6th ed nids codex with 1kpt games in mind, his chosen strat revolved around swarm lord and a squad of hive guard, which if you went to any forum asking for advice you would normally be met by people saying they're weak, but since he stuck to purely 1k games very few armies had the tools to deal with that unit and the kid became dominanthad something to the opposite happen where GW when they had a twitter made a post about 600-point armies, I posted one with a redemptor and got called WAAC. played the list later and it wasn't very good. All in all it does play into the lack of raw evaluational skill in the community.>o the most important thing to couple with reading your codex is ACTUALLY PLAYING FUCKING GAMES, since that'll give the context need to understand your rules and refine your lists.On a separate note, I do think if we had a proper digital simulator with hard rules and matchmaking, you would see a lot more "tactical" victories start to take over in local stores, people who are just so experienced with a weird list they can win games.
>>97705728
why do they love giving the rhino to everything but never the predator?
Slightly off topic but holy fuck when does Yrliet stop being such a turbo cunt? She's almost as bad a Kerillian
>New Abnett novel>It's not the Bequin sequelWhat is this asshole doing.
>>97706823I don't know a single imperial army that doesn't have "rhino with a canon"
>>97706845I assume Anon means Combat Patrol boxes.
>>97706836the bequin sequel is never coming out because gw caught up on what the retard was doing and shot it downturns out they were taking for granted he wouldn't use his novels to break the setting and weren't keeping a close eye on him or what he wrote, while he took that as greenlight to do whatever he wanted, now everything is canned
will you be a good big brother to your fellow plastic spacemen, /40kg/?
>>97705944>Not doing aspects with the assigned Craftworld colors
>>97706811>you contradicted yourselfYeah I should have said that reading your codex is very important but requires game context to be truly useful. Its been a very long time since I've read a codex without a meta in mind so the mindset of a new player escaped me, but also if you're a new player you should just be focusing on learning the basics of the game since those are the building blocks of understanding this game and the codexes.>I posted one with a redemptor and got called WAAC. played the list later and it wasn't very good.Yeah, loud retards on the internet will always be a problem, it's a big reason why some competitive/tourney forums are private to reduce that.>you would see a lot more "tactical" victories start to take over in local stores, people who are just so experienced with a weird list they can win gamesAbsolutely, I know a few people that have been playing the same army for 20+years with small variations, and they are some of the most consistent winners in my groups.People discount being able to pilot a list a lot these days, but it's still a very important part of the game and by just knowing your units kill potential is incredibly helpful in manoeuvering an army and reaching the hights of an army's skill ceiling.
>>97706836>What is this asshole doing.Awaiting his execution.
>>97706856what was he doing?
>>97706865Eldar and those starcraft ayys look literally nothing alike, I do not get how this meme is pushed this hard
i have purchased a very silly model that will probably take me most of the year to paint please recommend me your favourite titan legion
>>97706889They're not close, but they're the closest still
>>97706867I do think the culture the game has is the issue at the end of the day, lists shouldn't have to be all-rounders to start.
ATTENTION CHAOS FRIENDSfunnest csm detachments? I was kicking ass with fellhammer but it was pretty boring so I switched to deceptors, it's a lot of fun but I wanna hear everyone elses thoughts.
>>97706884valdor had built an army of winged supermarine pariahs in his own pocket realm and was going to launch a mass scale assault on the galaxy that would have resulted in time traveling shenanigans, a new status quo of intersecting time periods and the rise of the emperor
>>97706865When you put them side by side like that, Starcraft Marines look way cooler than 40k Marines.
>>97706865You should put Votann next to starcraft marine, they look much more similar
Which armies *can't* be given thigh-highs and long gloves?
>>97706902>lists shouldn't have to be all-rounders to start.Yeah, I've always recommended people to not worry about tournament results for armies since you generally don't always know what the match ups were and the spread of armies, and just focus on the armies that you'll normally be playing with some variation if you live in varied local meta.There is a stigma around list tailoring, but most of the time my opponent and I just tell each other the army we'll be playing and make our lists from there to reduce any sort of micro tailoring.
>>97706865I love the Zerg and appreciate the Terran weaponry, the C-14 Impaler Gauss rifle is cool.
>>97706928>There is a stigma around list tailoring, but most of the time my opponent and I just tell each other the army we'll be playing and make our lists from there to reduce any sort of micro tailoring.I think some list tailoring is fine, like if you are playing thousand sons and I am playing nids, I am gonna bring a Psychophage
>>97706926They arr rook the same
>>97706938I always try to sneak in a psychophage in my lists, it's size alone is very good for blocking the path.
>>97706938Yeah, having you opponent in mind when making your list shouldn't be treated the same as someone seeing their opponents list and then altering theirs to better counter.It may seem silly that I would have to point this out but there's a lot of loud retards that treat those two as the same.Hell, when ever I make a slew list I usually give my opponent a heads up to bring extra of certain weapons, nothing to spell it out to them but enough so the game can be enjoyable for both players.
>>97706941This is a list I have been meaning to run, its just all brains Xenos - Tyranids - Synaptic NexusNeurotyrant (135pts): Warlord, Psychostatic DisruptionNeurotyrant (115pts): Power of the Hive MindNeurotyrant (125pts): Synaptic Control22x Neurogaunts (90pts)22x Neurogaunts (90pts)22x Neurogaunts (90pts)Neurolictor (70pts)Neurolictor (70pts)Neurolictor (70pts)6x Zoanthropes (200pts)6x Zoanthropes (200pts)6x Zoanthropes (200pts)Maleceptor (170pts)Norn Emissary (260pts)Psychophage (110pts)
>>97706866They don't do that in 90% of the art thoughbeit
>>97706946yeah it just isn't fun to bring things that won't work, like a psychophage into necrons, or an antimonster weapon like archangels shard into guard parking lot
Looking for a little help with Legionaires and CSM. I have 3 squads of Legionaires so far. 2 are full bolters (with heavy/reapers on 1, plasma/missle on the other). The 3rd is a melee squad of ten. (Chainswords, 1 heavy, one balefire).I'm trying to figure out which direction to take a 4 squad of marines (MKiis). I'm trying of making another melee squad, as I can have the 2 heavies.Any suggestions? Maybe how do you guys run your Legionaires?
Asking all willing anons:>What unit would you add to WH40k?It can be your dream unit, filling a gap you perceived in a range, something fun or silly, even something you find thematic & fittingA few examples of past submissions:>Deffkopta Warboss>Havoc Rubrics>Meat-bycicle Wrack Cavalry>Bonesinger "servitors"
>>97706907Don't forget he had several Chaos legions, several Craftworlds, the Inquisition, and xenos going after Valdor. I have no idea why people fellate Abnett so much. He is just as retarded as Brooks, ADB etc. Hell, he used the entire Siege of Terra to advertise his fucking Eisenhorn books. Perpetuals? John Grammaticus? Matt Damon shooting MLK on the Cabal orders? ERDA. All his ideas.
>>97706957dependsyou should paint these first regardless
I think I've unknowingly blinded myself from the light from my lamp reflecting off the water in my wet palette
>>97706964Hydralisks
>>97706964Melee battleline for necrons that can be led by a cryptek.
>>97706964a unique tank for the SoB with a cannon bigger than S10why are they all buddies with the robot church if they won't even make them a cool fuck you tank like everyone else gets
>>97706964Plague toads :(
>>97706964Vect and the Court of the Dark Muse upon the Dais of DestructionKit includes a special vehicle and five infantry models that just start the game embarked upon the Dais.Overlord Vect himself with clone field, High Archon Sythrac with the soul cage, Dark Father with the Glaivex long blade and classic Incubi Scorpion helm and cloak as guardian, Gelding the changeling senschal, and Lady Lhamaea the Courtesan mistress of PoisonsThe vehicle has a transport capacity of 16 and a Void lance and two Dark Scythes equipped
>>97706990How do they defer from raveners? Genuine question + need a description to add to the list>>97706992What kind of melee & Why a cryptek? Would it work as a generic/polyvalent escort unit?>>97706997Super heavy vehicle or just a big fucking gun on a regular/medium tank (regular being castigator)>>97707002What's so special about the little buggers?
>>97706964Obliterator and mutilator lords sisters of battle ascalon tank necron flayer HQmandrake HQ Ironkyn Khal
>>97707011>Super heavy vehicle or just a big fucking gun on a regular/medium tank (regular being castigator)not super super heavyjust like a rogal dorn for sisters
>>97707016What's an Ascalon tank? Like the French tank gun?>Ironkyn khalWhat's special compared to a regular khal?
>>97706964>>What unit would you add to WH40k?A bunch of HQ options, mainly. Like it's pretty dumb that eldar don't have a bonesinger, or that squats don't have a biker HQ, or that EC lack everything from apothecaries to terminator lords to bespoke sorcerers.
>>97707020>What's special compared to a regular khal?The Codex hypes it up as a rare event THEIRONKÂHLLegendsofanIronKâhlhave existed formillennia.Thefigure haswornvariedguises,often thatofahumbleIronkinraised togreatnessbytheVotannanddriventocommandentire armieswithnigh-supernatural strategiccapabilities.Inrecent centuries,thisfigurehasbecome moreprevalent,withtalesof anindividualmatchingthe legendbearinganuncannyring oftruth.Itisknownforrare Memnyrtofloodtheirminds withsuchmassivedataflows thattheycanbrieflyachievethe featsascribedtothetales'hero. However,doingsodrastically reducestheirlifespan,senescence swiftlystealinguponthem.Most Kinthusdismissthecohering rumoursasaccretionsofseveral individuals'deeds.
>>97707034text formating fucked up THE IRON KÂHL Legends of an Iron Kâhl have existed for millennia. The figure has worn varied guises, often that of a humble Ironkin raised to greatness by the Votann and driven to command entire armies with nigh-supernatural strategic capabilities. In recent centuries, this figure has become more prevalent, with tales of an individual matching the legend bearing an uncanny ring of truth. It is known for rare Memnyr to flood their minds with such massive data flows that they can briefly achieve the feats ascribed to the tales' hero. However, doing so drastically reduces their lifespan, senescence swiftly stealing upon them. Most Kin thus dismiss the cohering rumours as accretions of several individuals' deeds.
>>97706964with the new tau commanders, why don't we have a tau crisis suit with a shield, plasma(power) sword, and pistol? that would be cool
>>97707011>What kind of meleeSome kind of hyperphase glaive or gladius>Why a cryptekI wanna have a cryptek+overlord+battleline melee blob with an actually decent melee profile, that's all.
>>97706865I think the starcraft marines look pretty cool.Only thing I'd change is the legs, not a big fan of the part where the shin "necks" down and then flares out again. Could fix it with some plasticard and putty however, at least I would try to make the curve/dip look less pronouced.
>>97707034>>97707038A sort of "super khal"? Could be an interesting "make your own named character" option, like +1 relic and +1 warlord trait>for a price>>97707028>chaos apothecariesLike regular apothecaries but chaosy or some kind of "lite generic fabius bile"?
>>97707011>What's so special about the little buggers?They're just lil guys, plus they're one of the few daemon models that really really need a refresh. Assuming daemons are still gonna be around in 11th (god please)
>>97707058Does it have to a crisis suit? Is it an HQ or a unit?
>>97705808Radical ordo astards inquisitor with exiled marine bodyguard who believes he's about to crack the case wide open on space marines.
>>97706964Change it to a deffkopta mek, gives the entire unit the mek keyword (for dread mob), and it comes with something like a shokk attack gun and/or better melee capabilities I
>>97706964I just want a knight-sized plastic biotitan with multiple builds
>>97706964Drukhari knight or pillar of flesh. Something apocalypse scale.
>>97707160how do the norn models stack up to a knight?
>>97707093i was thinking a unit that an HQ could attach to. like a bodyguard unit that's melee focused
>>97707155>deffkopta mekCould always make the deffkopta a mount-option, will write deffkopta mek down>>97707160What kind of builds? Like weapon options or two units in one kind of deal?>>97707168>pillar of fleshQRD?>>97707170Bodyguard unit, Close Protection Cadre sounds fun
I want to put my Iron Warriors on metal bases, should I go with Boarding Actions or Necromunda? I'm gonna do 3D prints for anything larger.
>>97707192Which is cheaper? Which is easier to work with?
>>97706889I wonder what a race of long-lived, superior/arrogant psychic aliens with a hated dark offshoot who are also part of a fallen empire that used to control much of the setting at a time about which no-one cares who use psychic necromancy to have their dead pilot war machines and, most importantly, who job at every opportunity could possibly have in common with Eldar.
>>97706964Dreadnought on bike
>>97707218
>>97707194Boarding Actions is $42 for 60 bases (20 each of 25/28/32mm) and some basing bits, while Necromunda is $20 for 35 bases (15 each of 25/32mm and 5 40mm), so two boxes of that would be more bases overall. I'll probably go with the Necromunda ones for that reason along with the fact that 28.5mm bases are pretty useless for CSM (I think only the Dark Commune uses them).
>>97707169not favourably, it's practically armiger sized
>>97706964Musclegirl GSCEach kit coming with one or two "wounded" miniaturesChaos Spawn remake with a shitload of optionsCelestial Lions character in non-primaris armourHarlequin Land Raider
>>97706947Clever bugs
>>97707248they watched too much rick and morty
>>97707241>Harlequin Land Raider
>>97707241I love muscular women like you fuckers wouldn't believe, I'd let her shove her ovipositor down my throat any day if you know what I'm saying!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVN1Apz45AE
>>97707094would it be ethical for an inquisitor to kidnap BA space marines and force feed them the blood of random hivers until the BAs bodies are mutated and twisted by the red thirst?For science of course.
>>97707011>How do they defer from raveners? Genuine question + need a description to add to the listNot that guy but hydralisks are basically a combination of raveners and Hive Guardbgun hives in it's mouth.Best way to describe them is the body plan of a ravener for mobility and stability but it is filled with spines that they can eject with enough force to pierce tank hulls and even damage space ships.It's a living spike railgun in lore it does even more damage than a railgun assisted rifle, a lot of fire power but little HP and defenses, extremely dangerous when mass produced into a firing line in lore.
if you had to give a swarm unit like rippers or scarabs to other armies, what would you give them?
I am now a shred closer to finding my necron color scheme.
>>97707226>>97706964Alright, how about a dreadnought apothecary instead? I remember an anon made one a few years ago.
>ripper jackson>sly marbo>catachan colonel>stonetooth harkerGW should have put all these named characters into a kill team, plus 5 normal catachan troopers. Would have been very easy.Have them fighting a tyranid kill team of catachan devils and brain leafs, with terrain that is a bunch of catachan plants that can kill you.
>>97707275Eldar have those spider things in their craftworlds
>>97706210Yes I also wish it was 2016.
>>97707271So a sort of glass cannon unit? Great damage at range & in melee but weak overall?Regarding mobility, are they fast/agile or does it hinges on a burrowing "teleport" ability?
>>97706523TROOOOOOOOOON SCALE
>>97707290>dreadnought apothecarypic relatedthe dreadbike / motodread is already in the list. Silly is good, I'm just not looking forward to the headache
>>97706359>Hell, people constantly wish GW to add the Old Ones/lizardmen into 40k.No I want it to be like 3rd edition necron codex where you had rules to run lizard mans vs. necrons as a primitive fallen race, like kroots.
>>97707294Still don't understand what the hell GW was on making several plastic Catachan character minitures and then just stopping outright when they're prime material for a Kill Team.
>>97706675Dark Eldar because there are two tourneyfags who keep winning with them while makes GW nerf their only gimmick even harder so space marinefags don't cry.
>>97706782>the mentally stable wagiehttps://youtu.be/Msxsu448JmE?t=8
>>97706865they told me they hate warhammer and are going to be a cult like the trentch crusader guys so no probably not lmao.
>>97707266ordo astartes inquisitor investigating the angels of excellence or wahtever that one chapter that gets a bunch of serfs and then drinks their fucking blood would probably be kino.
>>97707184>pillar of flesh>QRD?Pic related
Kill team is dopeJust wish warhammer-type games didnt take so longToo many rules
>>97707317also the original Deathwatch Kill Team was never a legal kill team for Kill Team 1st edition and it took them like 8 years to make a proper Deathwatch Kill Team after killing deathwatch as an army even though Kill Team is literally named for Deathwatch Kill Teams.
>>97707334I dont hate warhammer
>>97707341Good lordSo an apocalypse type unit I suppose
>>97707310What am I looking at here?
>>97707266Ethical? No.Would the inquisition still do it? Yes.
>>97707362Apothecary dread
>>97707008This but make them all generic instead of named characters. Or a dual kit with options
>>97707369who are those pouches on the legs for?
>>97707377I have no idea, not my model
>>97707381You posted it. Take responsibility
>>97707302All zergs have burrowing abilities, the hydra is more of an ambush unit that burrows then leaps from it's hiding place and annihilates things before they can retaliate.It's initially slow but can be upgraded ingame to move faster, and even lunge forward.Hydralisks can mutate even further to become lurkers who basically become burrowed siege engines that use earth shattering spikes to destroy buildings, lines of infantry with splash damage and heavily damage tanks.There is another staring more specialized on larger range and anti tank/fortification using a single underground tendril to attack called the impaler.Hydras are very versatile fuck it we ball units for the Zerg.
>>97707341Rare Eldar win against the forces of Slaanesh. Sort of.
>>97706964Make a female custodes model but make her look like a proper amazonian muscle mommy with wide hips.Give the armor prominent boob plate that is decorated and multiple weapon options, like guardian spear, axe, sword and shield.Also add in bunch of relic/customization options for helmets, heads (that are actually well sculpted), shoulderpads, loin cloths etc. Fuck it. add 3 different cape choices and a jump pack to it as well. Also as a must, give their power armor high heels.Call it the Champion of Terra model/unit.
>>97707389No >:C
>>97707310>+++DOES IT HURT WHEN I DO THIS?+++>+++[LOUD POWER TOOL NOISES AND SCREAMING]+++
>>97707377ammunition or supplies for the marines walking alongside the dread is my guess
>>97707397>>++STAND STILL LITTLE BROTHER++>>++YOU ARE MAKING THIS HARDER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE++
>>97707184>What kind of builds? Like weapon options or two units in one kind of deal?The golden standard would be 3 units>psychic build with a queen's brainy head and creepy itty bitty hands as forelimbs>linebreaker build with a horned carnifex head and a pair of talons or meaty claws >hierophant-like build with a head like a trygon's or warrior's and ranged weapons like biocannons and gigantic devourersthe rest of the body could also have options like a tail curling around a birthing sac, or a tail with some kind of acid spewer or injector, or a heavy tail meant for smashing the upper carapace could be full of holes for shooting spores or spines, or house a piggybacking organism integrated into a cannon the ribs underneath could have a choice of extra armor plates or transport holes or dangling tentacles
>>97707395The post is about units, not models.This is the second request for "strong muscle mommy" so far
>>97707218Are we talking a boxnought sitting on a bike, or using two bikes as rollerskates?
new slaughterbound dropping
>>97707450kill yourself
>>97707450he just wants to slice some pizza
>when GW was selling knight battleforces it was easy to find cheap knights>when they were selling combat patrols it was easy to find lots of cheap Berzerkers>now those markets have dried upSomething I realized is that value boxes are most valuable when you can get one model you actually want and sell the other crap so you don't have to pay 150 bucks for Angron or wahtever later on.
>>97707450@Gork is this real?
>>97707450cool kitbashWould be funny if they did release a new world eaters model for armageddon tho>the UNCHAINED, a dishonored world eater stripped of his power armor after failing to become Eightbound and now leads squads of jakhals and goremongrels into battle in an orgy of violenceAnd then the basic units like berzerkers on juggernauts or berzerkers with jetpacks or berzerker terminators or berzerkers with heavy weapons continue to just -not even exist-
>>97707450AI or kitbash retard?The head and weapons don't look too bad
>>97707491>>97707486gemini ai
>>97707501I asked the google ai and it said it wasn't ai generated
Need bluestuff tipsI'm using a method I saw on youtube framing the mold with legos and pressing it together with a clamp then sticking it in the freezerI can never get the two halves to cleanly separate without fucking up the moldSolutions?
>>97706964Chaos Lord on a BikeTau Broadside suit character3 Grots in a trenchcoat character
>>97707505it was based off of the original eightbound
>>97707505I asked Grok and it told me Israel is our greatest ally.
>>97707516
>>97707509any type of oil would work here just something to seperate the lego from the moldingI have no idea what im talking about
>>97707501The worst part is he didn't even attempt to make it look like a box. It's just a painted model.
>>97707393deldar win often, even when they lose it's all according to keikaku or they take their revenge later anywayit's just craftworlders which have issues
>>97707505Skynet isn't here yet but I can already tell Humanity is cooked
>>97707516>>97707518>>97707534It said it was real and clearly a necromunda goliath
>>97707515>Tau Broadside suit characterWhat's different from a broadside?>3 Grots in a trenchcoat characterSell it to me
>>97706964Penal Legion for IG
>people in this thread actually using AII'm embarrassed like your parents are.
>>97707543>What's different from a broadside?His only weapon is the railgun and it hits on a 3+. He has an ability that lets him shoot through terrain, but it's a wager. You have to declare you're attempting to shoot through terrain before rolling to hit, and when you roll, you need to score 5+.>sell it to meIt's 3 grots in a stolen Mega-Armor. That's the pitch.
>>97707266>ethical>Inquisitor Doing it wrong.
>>97705453I think im starting to see some progress, very nice.
>>97707560Enjoy being left behind, like an evangelical who cheated on his wife and didn't get raptured.
>>97707553What's special about the penal legion?>>97707562Very effective speech
is there usually no news on saturdays
>>97707553The IG is literally getting a Saklar Penal Legion kill team, so mission accomplished?
>>97707560it's just the resident indian
>>97707571Very rarely. Saturday is usually the launch day for pre-orders that were announced the previous week. Sunday is usually only the announcement for what is going up for pre-order next week and what articles they are going to focus on on warcom during that week.
>>97707447Yes
>>97707571saturdays is preorder, sundays is what's going to be pre-orderable next week
>>97706964Guard Tankettes>Fast attack/Mounted option that isn't horses>Come in a squad of 3, have Scout 6" >Weapon choices include Autocannons, Flamers, and Bolters>Maybe some rule that lets other units hit something behind cover as if they could be seen idk
>>97706997>raps
>>97707450Does he work at the grimdark pizzeria?I guess a guy like him needs to bulk a lot.
>>97707585>tankettesI LOVE TANKETTES I LOVE TANKETTES I LOVE TANKETTES I LOVE TANKETTES I LOVE TANKETTES I LOVE TANKETTES
>>97705103Sure. Let the emperor’s compassion bless two consenting humans with the miracle of love.
>>97707573what? New kill team was announced?
>>97707346Black Library literally named for eldar black library in the webway, but there is only 15-17 (d)eldar-related novels and most of them are garbage
>>97707597nta but there are rumors of a chem dog kt
Plastic thunderhawk this week
>>97707560>>97707575Holy mother of based and redpilled.Holy mother of based and redpilled.
>>97707406Models are units.
>about to get some painting in >my favorite paints are all either dried up(GW) or empty (vallejo)Fuck
>>97707570>What's special about the penal legion?Back in 5th they were an infantry squad with Scouts and Stubborn armed with lasguns who got a random ability at the beginning of the game.1- assault 2 lasguns2- counter-attack, fleet and furious charge3- rending
>>97706964>CSM Daemon Cavalry for each god.Juggernauts for Khorne, Discs for Tzeentch, Plague Flies or Toads for Nurgle, Fiends for Slaanesh, and Dragons for Undivided
>>97707568ty mate
>>97707585Krieg Siegfried was a Sentinel equivalent built on the Land Crawler. There's also the Scylla, which I'm pretty sure was showcased on the old GW website's conversion corner.
>>97707603Who's the other team in the rumor?IG versus what?
It is time.Time to bake.
>>97707646Bake away King
>>97707627That's actually very nice, I like the introduction of randomization, it makes sense in the context of requisiting a fighting unit for the sake of a fighting unit; they will not be exactly what the officer wants but it will do the job done.+1 for creating randomness which itself invites creativity and thinking>>97707629Funny enough daemon cavalry/mounts is already in the list, with the god specific options. The specific need sprucing up so that's good
Can any other faction sing matter and weapons into being besides the Eldar? Surely some other psychic faction has discovered a way to use warp stuff like this.
FOC
>>97707509>>97707523I figured it out. I needed to do one half, let it cool, then the other half. I was pressing them together at the same temperature and it just created one thick block
>>97707679>>97707679>>97707679
>>97705036he tanked that
