Menacing edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97726666>TQWhat is your favorite 1 mana card?
>>97737766>What is your favorite 1 mana card?Probably BoP. Noble Hierarch is up there too. Esper Sentinble.... The one mana tutors... Yeah lots of good choices. Even the humble Spore Frog.Also please respond to..>>97737792
Play DandanPastebin now with red variant and a few others. Post other variants if you want me to add them.https://pastebin.com/QhjUyTBK
This bitch keeps crying that people hate on TNMT just for being ugly and standard is "as diverse as it can be" then expends all streams complaning that people play the same 3 "sweaty decks"That does not sound like a diverse standard~
>>97737826Why are they trying SO HARD with viral marketing for this particular product?
>>97737854>That does not sound like a diverse standard~It's diverse on paper because WotC lumps bronze league shitbrews in with all the Mythic rank actual decks.In practice, decks get filtered and the real experience of playing current Standard is that it's a 3-deck format.
>>97737858but anon is encouraging to ignore the secret lair that changed the list and even build completely new shit like red fishIn any case this is a reaction to commander slop eating all casual play
>>97737854Didn't prof also made a video to shill standard and instead of it just put the tranny to talk?did wizards sent death threats to all content creators?
I hate how even the "off-meta" Standard decks are just generic slop midrange "Build around this broken FIRE-design Universes Beyond card!"
>>97737866>did wizards sent death threats to all content creators?Worse. They sent them Magic cards.
Reminder that nosewater will tell you that you don't have to buy every set but they distance themselves from content creators who don't fellate every releaseWhen nosewater tells you that no block is better he means his yearly bonusHe will tell you that TMNT is better for the game too, just ask him.
Embrace tradition.Come back to Premodern, /tg/.Come back home.
post it
TMNT was the highest selling set of the last 3 years among turtles
>>97737826red pill me on red dandan
>>97737877>Worse. They sent them Magic cards.Truly horrifying.
Blogging about my webcam league so far.2-0 RBW Energy OTDG1 - I mull to 4, opponent doesn't kill me fast enough. I draw Dark Ritual on my last turn and go off.G2 - SB pivot, opponent boards into Deafening Silence and Surgical Extraction but doesn't board in Containment Priest for some reason. An interesting spot comes up where I use a Balustrade Spy to partially mill my deck, stopping at the basic swamp, to grow my Barrowgoyf out of Ajani's 0 ability range.2-0 Bant FIRE beanstalk phelia riddler etc control OTPG1 - Keep 7, blind therapy FoW then go off.G2 - SB pivot, opponent plays T1 Trop Tamiyo. I keep 7 consisting of Dark Ritual, Petal, Black MDFC, Green MDFC, Thoughtseize, Reanimate, Therapy, and draw a second Therapy for turn. I cast petal then play black MDFC and thoughtseize and he reveals FoW, Riddler, 2 Beanstalk and Plow. I take Riddler, then use the petal + dark ritual to therapy him twice taking both beanstalks and plow, then reanimate the riddler. Because I'm left with only the green MDFC in hand I draw 2. He eventually finds a plow, but Riddler has already drawn me enough cards and done enough damage that the subsequent Barrowgoyf is enough to finish him off, even when my Passageway seer gets countered and drawing into a second Barrowgoyf at the end of the game.2 more rounds to go in group stage
>>97737888Based. I love how they put this in a precon.
>>97737854She should play more historic, she seemed to be having way more fun every time I saw her playing it
>>97737854>listening to womenholy retard
Thoughts?
>>97737897I haven't played it, some other anon posted it. Looks like fun, if you want to try it just print some cards off mtg print and find a friend>>97736651Interesting idea. Cube doesn't necessarily lend itself to just having one creature or a shared library/graveyard though. At that point I'd just play a mono blue cube.
>>97738006Commander players complain just as much about this stuff as anyone else. But then they still buy this trash because some card perfectly fits their pet deck. I love commander, I built 40 decks. But it feels more and more that the right thing to do is to just throw them all away.
>>97738026>I love commander, I built 40 decks.
>>97737888
>TQNot my favorite, but I think this guy is sweet and that shitty WotC needs to bring back Provoke! Been playing Onslaught block pack wars, slapped Dragon Fangs on a Krosan Vorine, very fun stuff.
>>97738080>Onslaught block pack warsIf only you could do this in paper.
>>97737936I don't get the point of playing The Spy in a league with no stakes where you can proxy anything. it's like what an EDH player would do if they want to win but don't want to engage with the format at all.
BeholdAnd ban Phlage
>>97738145 iffy on Field of the Dead and need to add Birthing Pod.
>Drive 30 minutes away from work (1 hour away from home) just to play standard on a Thursday>Use the bug deck>Get crushed by three tier 1 or 2 decks>MonoG Landfall Player: "You know what would really make that deck good? [Proceeds to list every Superior Spider-man wincon]"Blex better show up when spoiler season comes 2 weeks from now.
https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/2034706471502389756>GW makes a surey>they reject your respons if you dind't like it"100% approval for new sets!!!"-MaRo
>the most terrifyingly evil version of Garruk ... one where he wears the chain veil, identifies as female and respects women
>>97737766>TQhttps://scryfall.com/card/wth/139/rogue-elephant
>>97738245>GWUh
>>97738252
>>97738080Based provooker. By far the most baffling one-and-done ability in the history of the game.
>>97738245don't worry i'm making sure the UB i want get through
>>97738245>Unfortunately, proxyfags are not part of our current target groupSo based
>>97738080I play this guy in my monowhite heroic pauper list and he always feels useful and wins a lot of matchups, no doubt in large part due to people underestimating how strong manipulating combat steps is on a 1 drop and not being familiar with the mechanic (also a lot of people miss the "UNTAP and block" part as well, so they get their shit killed after swinging with it and thinking they're safe) speaking of pauper I was looking at lists earlier and this black list looks fun and uses one of my favorite zendikar cards Guul Draz Vampire, anyone messed around with monoblack aggro/burn recently?https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7681501#paperI'm not that big a fan of vampire lacerator as so I'd probably drop it for Hopeless Nightmare or Serrated Scorpion as more guaranteed damage in case of blockers but otherwise I don't think I'd change anything
>TQFight bear remains one of my all time favorites. A classic one drop in my cube.
>>97738145But /edhg/ told me Git Probe was actually bad and the only reason it got banned was because players were bad at the game.
>>97738245They could've thank you for participating and just shadow ignore your opinion. BUT INSTEAD they literally decided to tell you in your ugly face that they dont care about your opinion.Super based move from wotc, its like they literally spit in your face, what are you going to do about it fatboy?
>>97738442>POV: You try to shake hands with your opp after a Premodern game
>>97738445>touching macacosnot advised, anon
If you’re building a jumpstart cube, would you include custom cards for each of the packs?
You can't really play anything that isn't FIREslop nowadays.Why would you play 5 different cards to do a combo when you can just play one legendary creature that does 5 things when it hits the board?
You are new lead card designer for MTGYou are tasked with simple jobModern players are tired from ragavan, tamiyo and ocelot pride so you need to powercreep them out of modern without ruining vintage.GO!
>>97738507Spyroclasm, RInstant* deals 3 damage to each opponent and each creature they control
>>97738526I shouldve been more specific, you need to design a PROACTIVE card that is going to be so good, that it will make ragavan, tamiyo and ocelot pride look too weak to run in their decks.
>>97738531Rape BoltRInstantDeal 3 damage to target opponent. Destroy all creatures costing 1 or 0 mana. If one or more creatures an opponent controls were destroyed this way, draw a card and create a treasure token.
>>97738507But anon Manmade Horrors 4 will already do that lol, i just hope they keep Eldrazi competitive...
>>97738080Provoke would be great if you couldn't just tap the creature after it resolves. Just have it force the block, regardless of tapped status, and it would be the ideal form of evergreen green interaction.Instead we need fight and punch cards, which are just conditional burn.
>>97738507Play By My RulesWEach player names a non-basic card. Search each player’s hand, library, graveyard and exile for the named cards and reveal them. If a card is revealed this way, its owner loses the game.
>>97738507W for a legendary 2/1 with Meddling Mage textbox
>>97738531Hateheart GoblinB/RCreature - Goblin ShamanWhenever a player draws a card, Hateheart Goblin deals 1 damage to each player.Hateheart Goblin gets +1/+0 for each damage it has dealt this turn.0/2
>>97738607>dies to Ragavan>does not interact with the treasure or stolen card>is not a proactive play that wins the game by itself0/10 go back to designing UW standard sets
>>977385070 Esper EdictCounter target non-artifact spell with cmc 1 or less unless its controler beholds an artifactThere, vintage is safe
>>97738245idk I got to put all the dislikes and submitthey are still asking you to rat youtubers out right next to a question if an influencer affected your opinion on a set btw lol
>>97738665>t. never played vintage
>>97738704We should all rat out tranny professor and tell them he convinced us not to buy turtles.
>>97738709How many decks don't slam the moxen and lotus in?
>>97738507Just wait until they reveal Spock
>>97738883>when you (thing you do anyway) draw a card
>>97738714well I sure have each time
>>97737854>then expends all streams complaning that people play the same 3 "sweaty decks"Well, the thing is : Arena rigs match making. She probably was only being paired with the 3 decks that her deck have disadvantage. The sad thing? Moderate pay pigs and Content creators generaly have an Easy mode on Arena where they get the good match ups or play people with low elo...She is either really bad or irrelevant to wotc, because otherwise she would be winning most games with a shit deck.
>>97738883
>>97738026Exactly this. This is off topic for this thread of course, but EDH has changed. The initial group of people who built it up to actually PLAY is no longer the driving force behind it. It is largely now a board game experience played with magic cards. You are shunned from trying to win, you aren't supposed to interact, you are just supposed to let everyone "do their thing"...its pointless. People of all ages have forgotten that you can still have fun if you lose if you are doing something that you enjoy. Magic, Counter-Strike, whatever - all I see are people crying into their milk when they lose. Statistically, you will lose 50% of every magic game you play so I don't understand where this has all come from.
>>97739037This. Every morning I get paired up against every single kikety avatar themed deck built specifically to kike my deck with kikery. I’m spending my future money towards premodern.
>>97738245>Like everything ub>Dislike everything from mtg itself tarkir etc.>Mention content creators>Asks me about them, asks me to name them >Do it>Shit on the professor with a 300 word essay>His videos influenced me negatively, he is a net negative for the magic community etc.>Race gender >, they might care about it more if I pretend to be some minority, Black woman from the US it is I hope somebody reads it It was fun
>>97738245>I love this game>I hate this company
>>97739041Why didn't they do this to any FF or Avatar cards?
>>97739062That's why edh players are even more retarded. They should win every 4th game. Winrate of 25%. They expect to win most of the time. Against 3 other players. Whenever they win less than they expected they cry about it.Those retards are beyond hope.
>>97738245"TMNT set was a Success!"God, they try to find fault on everything except the very concept of UB in Standard.
>>97739366Nobody cares about Standard. EDH is the primary way of interacting with MTG cards.
>>97739478Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
>>97739395Scalping is the primary way of interacting with mtg cards
>>97738006>this one ip I love gets a passThe absolute state of standard players.
>>97739516I dont think scalping is possible now, they pump out set every 2 month, thats barely enough time for something to go up in value until its forgotten.
>>97739478>>97739545go back to /pol/ with your schizo takes
>>97738337Yeah, as usual I put them on full blast for TMNT (not just with memery, genuinely thought out criticisms and comparisons) and I know as usual it will go unread.Of note, they didn't ask about how much actual money you spend on Magic this time around...that is a first in many years.
FUCK DUDES i bought a box of TMNT and woke up with tits. Can i be on tolarian community college now?
>>97739987Are you stupid?
I do not care for Strixhaven.
Friendly reminder Strichaven is gay.Hexhaven on the other hand is very cool
>>97740013I like the look of the new inklings, though they feel a little off. Would've prefered if they blended more, these look like they got stamped onto an existing artwork.
>>97740056>I like the look of the new inklingsStopped reading there. Opinion discarded.
>>97740052Strixhaven is gay.Hexhaven is gay.Arcavios is gay.Magic is gay.You are gay.
>>97740112put down the mirror, bitch
>>97740013God, this looks like shit. The inklings? look like 25 cent temporary tattoos.
>>97740112Magic is for EVERYONE even faggots like you anon lol
>>97740052>gayi really wonder if this can be defined just as "gay"
>>97738245All you have to do is say you are familiar with all the sets and you can fill it out
>>97739665
>>97740220needs more thopters and shit
>>97740220No, gay is when you are attracted to the members of the same sex.
>>97740220What the Hell is this? What im looking at?
>>97740287Sports event at Strixhaven.
>>97740013My bias towards Magic School will prevent me from enjoying this. Or it might be that the turtles hit me in a nostalgia I thought I'd forgotten.
>>97740220Nah it just looks like shit
>>97740287not-quidditch
>>97740101You're a child lmao
>>97740345Why?
>>97738245This is for shareholders.>"According to our surveys, we have 100% product approval!">Cull all respondents who don't approve of the product.It's all a farce. The entire economy is built on lies.
>>97740365That's not how for-profit companies operate.
>>97740025Cringe. Rest in piss, Chuck. He's rotting in hell right now
>>97740393>That's not how for-profit companies operate.Of all the things to attempt to gaslight about in order to defend, why did you choose globalist multinational corporations?
>>97740425Stop imagining fake scenarios and hurting your own feelings.
>>97740004Yes very
>>97740052>READ, BLACK MAN, READ!!!Based Azorious chad
>>97740220>mfw I realized they are all running from the black girl
>>97740437>fake>a company lying is "fake">"Greedy corporations would never lie!!!"
Did you guys see this retard get arrested the other day lmao
>what's not to like? I like the godfather and gangster movies. streets of capenna looks cool>What's not to like? I like sci-fi. Edge of eternity looks so cool. The flavor fits perfectly with mtg lore >We agree with you. People on the internet are right. TMNT and spider-man don't fit with the high fantasy world of MTG >eoe and capenna are high fantasy according to this retardWhy is Josh Lee kwai so braindead?
>>97740597The usual suspects. Why are white people always acting in such a subhuman manner?
>>97740591The company lies only in your head. EDH is 90% of Magic. EDH drives all the sales. They don't have your standards.Hasbro is publicly traded. Lying is illegal. If you have the proof of lie, you should go public with it. Hasbro crashing and burning is the only way to fix Magic. Godspeed. Expose their lies. Fingers crossed.
>>97738245Would you rather have them lie that they your answers into account.
>>97740718yes
>>97740597no, what
>>97740642>Lying is illegal.Lol, where the heck did you hear that?
>>97740642>Lying is illegal.Well damn, son! I guess that's that. Nobody would ever do something illegal.
>>97740767https://www.sec.gov/submit-tip-or-complaint/report-possible-securities-law-violationsThat's market manipulation.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox#Accounting_irregularitiesBigger than Hasbro got caught.
>>97737826Dandan variants, you say?https://moxfield.com/decks/jbtRg9y8r0KZYc8aJVJ9iwMono-B Dandan, focus around discards. Infernal Contract is an absolute house, but the great interplay is with Raven's Crime. Give it a shot, its super cheap to build, and a lot of fun. More aggressive than Mono-U as you can expect.
>>97737854this bitch have the worst luck i ever seen in a content creator, like holy shit>>97739037>The sad thing? Moderate pay pigs and Content creators generaly have an Easy mode on Arena where they get the good match ups or play people with low elo...>She is either really bad or irrelevant to wotc, because otherwise she would be winning most games with a shit deckif this is true, poor ash she is irrelevant for the Kikes overlords of Woct the kikening
>>97740851You are aware that bad business practices aren't necessarily illegal business practices, right?AND that illegal business practices (Which these are) aren't necessarily egregious enough for a state prosecutor bring forward a case, right?
This is the best self-mill spell available in standardIts been THREE WHOLE YEARSAnd its still both in rotation and the best mill available
Cast portent of calamity x = 4top cards of library>portent of calamity>north wind avatar>gene pollinator>dracogenesislmao was just trying to refill my hand...
>>97739062>The initial group of people who built it up to actually PLAYFalse, there was never such a groupSheldon was a true believer that players could self regulate, would allow people to do the thing, and would never bend 'the spirit of the format' just to win despite running rhystic study and interaction in his most famous 'obviously casual' deck and being a Level 5 judge, a job that implies people cannot in fact self regulate
>>97741262There is no 'bad' and 'good' to the law, only legal and illegalSo if your point is hasbro is le bad but still doing something legal then au contraire anon hasbro is actually doing le good because they're clearly pivoting to a much better paying audience like me who will buy real cards of my favorite ip and not be a proxytard which are overwhemingly ub haters>inb4 piggySorry buddy but just like in animal farm we pigs win
>>97740828Feel free to be the Nick Shirley that will bring down Hasbro then
>>97741391>So if your point is hasbro is le bad but still doing something legalNo that was not it. Learn tor ead.
>>97741402some somali gang bangers are going to deal with him by the end of the year
>>97741405>well it's illegal but not THAT illegal!!Cope, my point stands and I will get to change mtg to my vision because sorry I'm the target audience now
>>97741408>excusesPUSSYUSSY
You retards understand that if they reject submissions from a survey than saying "our survay shows 100% approval" isn't a lie, because the survey does this.
>>97741412>Cope, my point standsWho cares. You haven't responded to my actual point at all, so this isn't even a discussion yet. You're just a flailing idiot, whose statements have no value.
>>97741419>You retards understand that if they reject submissions from a survey than saying "our survay shows 100% approval" isn't a lie, because the survey does this.A lie by omission is still a lie.
>>97741421The discussion is UB is the future because people who like UB pay to keep Habsro alive and you're being excised out for being a whiny proxytard, these are just irrefutable facts
>>97741427They aren't omiting anythig. The survey they designe shows what they wanted it to show. The fact that it's worhtless doesn't make it not true
>>97741427Doesn't count as omission if the omitted data doesn't exist in the first place. Market manipulation is what makes America great!
>>97741427Funny thing is wotc has been more honest with this survey than ever before
>>97741436>The discussion is UB is the future because people who like UB pay to keep Habsro aliveWhatever you say, Mark.I'm honestly seriously starting to doubt if FIN or LotR actually sold high numbers either.Honestly there's probably just warehouses of boxes of them waiting to get eaten by rats.
>>97741475>denying reality nowWhatever makes you happy, anon.
>>97741475lotr probably did, it was probably the only magic set I've ever seen break through at least a bit into the general culture with The One Ring crap and Post Malone buying it for $2 million
>>97741491FIN absolutely did because anything japanese is held at so a high premium the entire country lives off their branding, how naive are you thay you also don't know you're an anime forum too
>>97741491>lotr probably did, it was probably the only magic set I've ever seen break through at least a bit into the general culture with The One Ring crap and Post Malone buying it for $2 millionYeah, yeah, yeah. And the moon is made of cheese.As far as I'm concerned, what matters is cold hard facts, not baseless conjecture. The FACTS are that UB doesn't sell. You can look at the real data, as I posted. UB sets sell about 1/3rd as much as UW sets, as far as the data is concerned. Consistently, too.To clarify to retards:SELL IN RATES ARE NOT SALES.SELL THROUGH RATES ARE SALES.NO COMPANY IN THE UNIVERSE CALLS IT A "SALE" IF IT IS NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO A CUSTOMER.PRODUCTS THAT SELL IN BUT DON'T SELL THROUGH ARE CALLED "DEAD STOCK" AND ARE NOT LISTED AS SALES BY ANYBODY BUT HASBRO.Great. Now that's out of the way,Why would I believe that FIN and LOTR sold well? Because Mark said so? Because retards hoarded collector boosters? Fuck off. I care about DATA. And the DATA shows that the sell-through rates of UB products are fucking abysmal, consistently.
>>97741529Damn you are special kind of retard, arent you?>WOTC sells boxes to LGS>WOTC gets money>Thats called profit>WOTC doesnt give a single shit about how much product LGS holds because it was unsold>it is literally neither WOTC problem nor can they track such statinb4>b-b-b-b-b-b-but game will die if people stop buying wotc product from LGSsApperently one FF like set is more than enough to outperform 3 shitty selling sets
>>97741529>NO COMPANY IN THE UNIVERSE CALLS IT A "SALE" IF IT IS NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO A CUSTOMER.Holy copeWotc only cares if boxes sell regardless if the buyers are scalpers, distributors, rudy from alpha investments, spike, or timmy
>>97741549SELLINRATESARENOTSELLTHROUGHRATES
>>97741555>using clap emojiOh great a libtard is lecturing about economics
>>97741553Plenty of fucking businesses work exactly the same.Name ONE film company that claims every empty seat in every theater is a ticket sale.
>>97741555YOU*clap*ARE*clap*FUCKING*clap*RETARD*clap*
>>97741572>the pokemon tcg is dead guys players dont buy that gameThis is how you sound, a fucking schizophrenic
Here's another example in case you're too retarded to get the picture.ECL vs TMNT.Look at this fucking chart and tell me that UB sells better than UW. Go ahead. Try it.
>>97741606Dont go running away schizo please explain why the pokemon tcg is still alive based on your schizo logic
>>97741608Look at the chart.Then tell me that UB sells better than UW.Do it so I can laugh at you for being a fucking retard.
>>97741616Pokemon tcg? Nobody plays that game, why is it still alive?
>>97741621>why is it still alive?Logan Paul and scalpers
>>97741621>Nobody plays that game, why is it still alive?
>>97741628Yep and that's what magic is turning into, UB sells far more than jace monsterfucker
>>97741621>Nobody plays that game, why is it still alive?You not realizing how stupid are for stringing these two clauses into a single sentence will be a case study on the pinnacle of retardation ever achieved by humans in a few centuries.
>>97741656People play pokemon? Where's your graph for that, schizo?
>>97741662>People play pokemon?What utterly schizophrenic delusion caused you to come to the conclusion that this was my assertion in that post?
>>97741677What delusion do you have that UB isnt assblasting UW to oblivion when it's the exact same playbook pokemon tcg uses? Kekw
>>97741698>What delusion do you have that UB isnt assblasting UW to oblivionRight here, retard. Literally just fucking posted it.>>97741606>>97741475
>>97741716>distributor sales dont count, only timmy sales do!>ok pokemon is somehow the most profitable tcg despite only scalpers buying it, but that doesnt count!Hahaha schizo
>>97741742Nobody is talking about Pokemon.
>>97741750Pokemon tcg is what fucks over the schizo's delusions though
>>97741757Nobody plays Pokemon so who cares.
>>97741763Nobody plays pokemon yes so why is it the #1 most profitable tcg?
>>97741742>>97741757It unironically doesn't at all do that, because Pokemon sell-through rates are fine.
>>97741777Funny how you always bring up spiderman and not FF btw, anyways proof of pokemon players next thread?
This discussion is over.UB does not sell.It is a fact that UB does not sell.The fact that UB does not sell is supported by all available data.There is no refutation of the data.UB does not sell.This is a fact.Get over it.
>>97741802At least post more than "tcgplayer sales figures" to reinforce your argument.
>>97741802>get assblasted>...i'm ending the discussion!!I was never trying to change your mind, schizoI'm just buying the UB i love like FF, shitting on UW, and filling out wotc surveys and telling them i want more animeI WILL have Weiss Schwarz: the Gathering and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it
>>97741810>At least post more than "tcgplayer sales figures" to reinforce your argument.
>>97741819>I'm just buying the UB i love like FF, shitting on UW, and filling out wotc surveys and telling them i want more animeGodspeed, anon. I can respect an honest enemy, but only if your efforts eventually result in a Taimanin UB.
UB is fine as long as I like the franchiseGive me trigun, frieren or cowboy beebop, dont give me ancient shit like StarTrekEnd of discussion
>>97741842True
>>97741842UB would be more palatable if it wasn't so focused on appealing to crusty Gen Xers and Millennials that need to go take care of their children
No, Universes Beyond is NOT acceptable for ANY IP, INCLUDING the ones I like. It's is ALWAYS unaccaptable but yes I WILL be buying a "Keijo!!!!!!!!" UB.
>>97741842JoJo set will probably trample FF numbers if it ever comes out
>>97741832>taimanin UBMore like a gacha UB actually
>>97741825At least add if they're box sales, pack sales, singles, what is this.
AEW UB.
>>97741861>At least add if they're box sales, pack sales, singles, what is this.Information not needed to prove point.Information excluded.Good day.
>>97741856The plethora of jojo memes alone will be so hilarious wotc will 100% make the commons pauper staples
>>97737826>Play DandanCan't imagine a less fun format.
>>97741861You should know better than to ask in good faith from the schizo
>>97737888Premodern only exists to artificially inflate the prices of chaff cards from 20 years ago that were 10 cent nothings before this forced meme format started.
Anyways, updated for the widdle whiny baby.
>>97741887>20 years ago"23 or more" before some autist corrects me.
>>97741867I love Kamigawa. Old and new.
>>97741887It also gives wotc more targets for reprints.
>>97741887But anon, that's unethical! A corporation would never do that.
>>97738145Misstep would not be as bad in modern as people think.It would be an excellent answer to 1 mana threats like Ragavan or Ocelot and could serve as a check for overly fast decks."BUT ANON" I can already hear you typing, "THE RAGAVAN PLAYER WOULD JUST HAVE A MENTAL MISSTEP TO COUNTER YOUR OWN!"The odds of your opponent has a 1 drop threat, a land to play it, and a mental misstep is lower than the odds of you having a mental misstep. Additionally, MM is a very bad draw in an aggro deck outside of extremely specific scenarios. In virtually every situation after turn 1, an aggressive player would rather that MM was another Ragavan or some other threat/removal.MM would make some already excellent aggro starts almost guaranteed wins, but would more often actually decrease the power of whatever aggressive deck that was trying to use it.I also think that DRS is garbage in the current modern metagame because of how fucked powercreep is. Is Lavamancer playable in literally anything?
I've never brought anything from tcgplayer and never will. They can go bankrupt tomorrow and nobody at my lgs would care
>>97741900Me too. Especially the lore. Mechs? Now that's the perfect tone for MTG.
>>97741908The fact that this turd is 30% the price of every other CoB printing best summarizes what people really think about Turtles. They'd gladly pay triple the price rather than see a card from TMNT.
>>97741933Same thing with fallout and its reprints. Some of the cheapest versions of certain cards were all fallout versions for a while.The art is so fucking ugly.
>>97741924Stop being stupid bandai and collab with mtg already you need all the profit you can get to recover after investing so much on gundam metaverse
>>97741933Check out this shit, literally TMNT garbage is literally 10% of og priceNo idea when commander tards actually got spine and taste
>>97741911Mistep's fundamental problem is that it's a card designed to solve a problem ("people play too many one-drops") that only makes the problem worse (people now play 4x Mistep and STILL play all their normal onedrops).
I would like to present with no context my favourite bit of TMNT lore:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfkmuy4kMBE
What was the thought process behind adapting such an ugly franchise to Magic the Gathering?
>>97741970Inspired by old magic art. Most of which is extremely ugly already.
playpremodern
Jogue moderno
spielenpremodern
>prof makes a video opening old strixhaven box>about to show result>tranny jumpscare recorded in a sex dungeon qualityMAKEHIM STOP
owarida
>>97741950>FF Dark Confidant selling for $3>Bob selling for $11>Pretty much all other Confidants are selling for $5 or moreEven with standard printings it's kinda pathetic.
>>97741978This shit is beyond extremely ugly and you know it.
this could be you anon~
jouerprémoderne
>>97742017Looks better than most old art on any given mtg card and you know it
>>97742013He's going to premiere a video and it will jump cut to the tranny fucking a canteloupe with his rapestick.
>>97742013I think it's cute for the "college" to have people under the Prof.And by under, I mean the Prof is getting some incredible, highly motivated head on the regular so stop judging him.
>>97742026Riiight...
>>97742030Might start watching his videos
>>97742040SOVL
>>97742048Something that lacks spirit can't have soul.
>>97742040Did they mutate in the sewers of a jewish neighbourhood in this comic?
לְשַׂחֵקפרה-מודרני
>>97742041It's an entire genre, iykyk.
>>97738245THE ONLY ONE I GAVE THEY DIDNT LIKE IT WAS NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH TURLES HOLY SHIT
>40 minutes to open 12 packsWhy do you still watch this shit?
>>97741867hate this cardif you are going to make the reference why not have some monster's head exploding or something
>>97742013The tranny actually plays standard. Prof never did. Or maybe once 20 years ago. His opinions are worthless >Prof:Why are they putting less cards into products? It's just cardboard worth a couple of cents, right?Good to know, he's selling a bunch of his cards on some website, right? Each card for 2 cents max, right? Would be hypocritical to do anything else.
I do not care for Ixalan.
>>97742065אימצו את המסורת.תחזור לפרה-מודרני, /tg/.חזור הביתה.
>>97742086why the fuck i care about standard when opening a old box?
>>97742040I like how you're not posting any "good" old mtg art, because you know that it's drawn way worse than this.I accept your concession
>>97742086>tranny engages in self-harmUnbelievable, imagine my shock.
>>97742092נֶפֶשׁ
>>97742092I love glory's flavor text. Post more cards with cool flavor text.
>>97742052Looks good to me
>>97742112Sure does.
>>97742054They're asian snapping turtles. It was a one off alternate reality.It has actually really good art.
>>97742097No idea. Proof's videos have had a bunch of mistakes in them for years. >So that's why- let me take it from the top >So that's why- okay let's try this again They forgot to edit out him redoing his lines at least a dozen times now.He got more employees, more subscribers and more views and the quality of his videos gets worse. He's a one trick pony as well.>Buy Singles, bla bla bla>His favorite ub sets are fine, all the other ones stink.How about buy nothing and just proxy, retard? Prof sucks.
>>97742107
I think the main reason wotc isnt getting major pushback for shit they pull is because WOTC content creators are actually boring bricks. Literally none of them will have any career if mtg dies, so they are stuck sucking wotc cock if they want to keep their eceleb bullshit alive, hell i dont even think McDonalds will hire them at this point.
>>97742138reminder this is mescalin
>>97741933>>97741950>>97742016>this is totally not because current products are plenty while old printings of CoB and Maher Confidant *during a time when print runs were a lot smaller btw) will never show up again that's why they carry a premium
>everyone hates how certain products are completely sold out everywhere long before that set is released>the retard Prof: I heard you loud and clear, check out my sponsor who bought those boxes, helping to increase the shortage of this set eveywhere, so that you can't have it, go to this website to maybe win 1 pack
>>97742151Even the ones with successful careers outside of playing this garbage don't push back, it's surreal.
>>97742153Stop talking sense. The turtles sol ring is worth more than other sol rings, because people love it so much
>>97742170>Even the ones with successful careers outside of playing this garbage don't push backName, three?
>>97742153People will pay a premium to avoid looking at homosexual terrapins.
>>97741087I'll add it.>>97741870Filtered.
>>97742151>>97742170no need to be that demeaningthe mtg ip is just not a hill worth dying for, are you really expecting them to defend the honor of the Jacetice League? You fags won't even do thatCouple that with mtg ultimately being about power (because mtg is a pvp game) and it's easy to just brush off these things and just focus on the newest pushed card
>>97742177tmnt sol ring is worth as much as lorwyn eclipsed sol ring that's for sure
>>97742179Kyle Hill, Arin Hanson, and that fat fuck I just posted.
>>97742030Now THAT'S television!
>>97742198Just because they made video about mtg doesnt make them MTG content creatorAnd i dont even know who the fat fuck you posted is, looks like that pajeet who scammed charity money into his account
>>97742180>People will pay a premium to avoid looking at lgbt>People will pay a premium to get a waifuduh obviously
>>97742151literally need someone sticking to the man not afraid of getting banned
>>97742216>Just because they made video about mtg doesnt make them MTG content creatorArbitrary definition.>I dont even know who the fat fuck you posted isHe made the cartoon where Bugs Bunny rapes Lebron James
>>97742217You can pay nominal fees to make some proxies.
>>97742233>i'm a proxytard that expect wotc to take me seriously
>>97742013>wants to talk about "good art" >doesn't mention faithless looting (one of the cheapest versions is this mystical version with this special treatment)>pulls it later >praises its arthe lost his mind. got it.>cries about how certain secret lair cards are very hard to read all the time >praises the ching chong versions in strixhavenhe's just saying whatever his employees want him to say. I hope he starts drinking again and kills himself by accident like Amy Winehouse.
>>97742235The more people proxy, the deader this game gets, which is a good thing.
>>97742216Here are some examples (i dont watch youtube so will give twitch examples)>numot>barely gets 200 while streaming diablo2, gets >1k viewers when new set launches>crokeyz>sits at 700 avg while streaming mtg>cant break 200 when streaming Spire>darkest mage>400 avg viewers when streaming mtg>currently streams dragon quest to 20 (lol)This people literally worth nothing without mtg.Best comparison i have is marvel snap that started nice and big, top streamers sitting at 1-2k and now their channels are dead streaming shit like marvel (marvel tards, amirite?) to like 100 people tops
>>97742235Why does that queer boy have a bunch of brightly colored plastic padding on his right arm?
>>97742245>The more people proxy, the more this game becomes a scalper's paradisewhich is fine for me, because as a true fan of (IP i actually love), i will buy real cardboardwin win for both me, wotc, and (You) because you play for free anywayas to whether you like Weiss Schwarz or not, that's your problem not mine sorry bud
>>97741933This at least prevent newbie products from being scalped.
>>97742235>Look momma I posted the laughing titus againHA HA HA HA HA
>>97742270Goodest goy.
>>97742274hehehe cry more
>>97742278the pigs always win, sorry you're not part of the team
>>97742239>Prof: STOP hating content creators, boo hoo hooDoes the Prof realize that mtg is also made by creators of content? They create something which is harder to do than YouTube videos. It's fine to shit on them, right? According to him at least >Prof openly shitting on some person who worked for work literally a minute prior to this commentDon't you dare to shit on mtg YouTubers though. That's forbidden.His head is full of mayonnaise at this point
>>97742282
>>97742018this is how premodern players actually like, they are the kind of entitled that go OHHH CANT GET THIS OBSCURE CARD THAT DOESNT GET PRINTED ANYMOREWELL TO BAD NO PROXIES CHUDDIE
Heading to FNM, looking for my next passing MtF gf, wish me luck
>>97742305
>>97742282>bunch of nothing next to this monsterDid Carl give up or forget to finish this drawing ?Also not how shadows work. Peak amateur hours with the lighting
>Heading to FNM, looking for my next passing MtF gf, wish me luck
>>97742303*worked for wotc
>>97742247You cant in anyway trust content creators as interesting, critical or worth opinions, they depend on the corpse of this game economically, and some of them are even happy with the latest WotC decisions specially regarding UB, you cant trust these kind of subhumans and they obviously will come "Turtles are cool!" MTG is already a niche game but imagine if people just start leaving (like they are doing) these stupid fucks will have to get actual works.
>>97742318
>>97742353you can trust content creators for one (1) thing though, which finding where the winds blow>that's edh and ub fyi
>>97742306>this is how premodern players actually likeesl moment
>>97742247Has nothing to do with mtg. Twitch audiences don't like streamers doing whatever they want. There are very few twitch streamers that can play whatever they want and have enough viewers to earn a living.Most earn a living with one game or topic and have to stick with it until they burn out ( Kibler for example)
>>97742363>>97742291
>>97742380
>>97742376reminder that streaming is just the modern version of the tv talk show host and the ultimate goal of every streamer is to have themselves be the brand where they can talk about anything and still have an audience
>>97742197>Ahe thinks the TMNT sol ring is the cheapest version of a sol ringNewfag alert. Or you're just bad at Google.
>>97742385your impotent crying only sustains me, poorfag
>>97742397
>>97742373Plenty of MTG arena content creators out there
>>97742394>tmnt sol ring is worth as much as lorwyn eclipsed>this means i said tmnt sol ring is the cheapest sol ring out thereholy reading comprehension
>>97742400yup i'm prized and you're not
why arena has so much pig cards? is this a hidden message or something?
>>97742375well just admited going to a predmodern eventretard
>>97742363>>97742385>>97742397
>>97742405You defeated your own strawman about lorwin eclipsed. Keep shadow boxing. I never said that the TMNT sol ring is worth more than the eclipsed version. Your reading comprehension is abysmal.
>>97742409It's pretty antisemitic if you ask me.
>>97742317What did you do to the last one?
>>97742408
>>97742416weird hill to die on but you do you king
>>97742425feel free to post every boar mtg has, make it known that we pigs own this game :)
>>97742425>The BibleWe desperately need an Old Testament/New Testament set block to save MtG
>>97742425me on the right
When's Aetherdrift 2?
>>97742437
>>97742445Aetherdrift was technically Dragon's Maze 2
>>97742445The prize in Aetherdrift was a Spark, what would the prize be for 2? A Super Duper Spark?
>>97742437>magical piggies and haughty ojousamas with drill hairFor some reason Eldraine brings out the best in artists.
>>97742445It was replaced by an upcoming Fast and the Furious UB set.
>>97742446the customer is always right in matters of taste :)
>>97742445Is this an Amazing Digital Circus reference?
>>97742459Bolas boi bussy. A prize worth a multiplanar race.
>>97742473Surprised there hasn't been an Amazing Digital Circus Secret Lair yet, maybe it's in the June superdrop?
>>97742486remember shit always comes 6 years late
>>97742507Universes Beyond and Secret Lairs especially don't seem to follow the 6 year design timeline that sets used to follow anymore.
>>97742459A date with Hazoret.
>>97742522the fastest mtg can work is a 2 year timeline, if they want to fast track something they can absolutely do it
>>97742471
>>97742546funny how nobody calls pokemon scalpers slaves or pigs, almost like this is all just performative nonsense from salty fags who lost the war>dragon ball ub wotc, make it happen
>>97742442Now that's a UB I can get into.
>>97742543I'm not sure that's true.
>>97742559thomas the doubter will be the token blue mage countering everything>resolves?>doubt
>>97742558
>>97742574hey if premodern = brazilians then might as well have the mexicans join in the fun via dragonball, have this thread be south america central
>>97742559>Circumcise>1W Instant>Lifelink>~ deals 5 damage to any target.
>>97742584>braziliansTravesti>mexicansMuxe
>>97742558pokemon prints every card on every rarity. so there is no chase cards for gameplay, scalpers go for the shiny charizard and players get the left overs, its the best scenarioMTG double deeps with shiny and playable cards
>>97742596>americanstrannies
>>97742608Only in olive states.
>>97742615Alabama has the best trannies
>>97742607mtg is actually trying to pivot to that via edh, a bracket 2 deck that can win 1 out of 4 games can be made for relatively cheap in mtg terms, and the more UB and scalper cards wotc releases the more it will get to that point
>>97742589Should create foreskin token
>>97742650I thought about making it a Kindred Instant - Vampire, fwiw.
>>97742659Lol
>>97742650>foreskin tokenwhat would it even do?
>>97742282That's what a succubus looks like
>>97742712If you control 200 foreskin tokens you win the game. Also hexproof.
>>97742729why wish for an old testament set with foreskin mutilations when you can play standard with tranny mutilations right now?
not Magic the Gathering
>>97742757That's not kosher
>>97742729>>97742757For me it's Lot and his daughters with Offspring.
>>97742757Fun fact, circumcision is a complication for "SRS" that leads to the doctor having to utilize intestinal tissue in the creation of the faux-gina.
>>97742803>Fun fact, circumcision is a complication for "SRS" that leads to the doctor having to utilize intestinal tissue in the creation of the faux-gina.
>>97742764Magic the Gathering is dead.
>>97741364Is this where we pretend Sheldon invented EDH?
>>97742844Long live Magic: The Gathering!
>>97741475Wizards only counts sales to stores. They printed Spider-Man into oblivion and forced WPN stores to order shit-tons of it. EOE on the other hand was barely printed at all and stores couldn't get enough of it. "Best selling" my ass. Spider-Man is going to be rotting on actual store shelves for YEARS, but WotC doesn't care because they "sold" them!
>>97742848i don't see adam staley saying mtg should be played more like a competitive game and not like a board gamelike it or not sheldon shaped edh, he created rule zero which basically allowed retards to get away with their incorrect hot takes
How many times can dump UB and pull the rull on distributors can work?
>>97742872final fantasy wiped away all doubt that (UB of great IP) worksdistributors are boned to what they signed on with wotc, but scalpers should know better than to dip too much into boomer westoid franchises, the east has it all now
>>97742881But Spider-Man and TMNT how many huge flops can they take chasing the dragon?
>>97742903Star Trek flop is also on the horizon for 2026, stores can't do this forever...
https://youtu.be/nolpET4mgiITrek will succeed
make it so
>>97742170If you make your money pandering to actual piggies who make consuming content their entire existence, why would you go out of your way, risk your ad revenue, making piggies hate you while burning bridge$?If i was a drug dealer, i wouldn't say drugs are bad for you.
Searching scryfall for pigs. There are disappointingly few of them.
>>97742955there's a lot of lgbt in scryfall don't worryhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Algbtq-plus&unique=art
Now that's a big pig.
Don't worry fellow MTG players, im sure this time woth Marvel Heroes, capeshit and NY block will succeed!!WAKANDA FOREVAH!!!
>>97742306Nigger, what? Every premodern tournament I've played in has allowed minimum 12 proxies, with a few allowing full proxies.
EDH won.
>>97742558No one is nearly as invested in Pokemon as a game. Most players only care about collectability, getting their favorites in different art/printings. Magic is a game with over 30 years of history and had a thriving international tournament scene with some amount of prestige. People cared about the game, the art, the lore, everything. What we're getting these days is so far off from what was, it's honestly hard to recognize as the same game.
>>97742971not Magic the Gathering
>>97742971WE
>>97742971going to laught my ass off when i see WAKANDA FOREVER on the bargain bin
I wish I could go to fnm and play modern again
>>97742910do think big stores will buy big bulk again after two bargain bin flops in a row?
>>97742984>people care about the art and loreLol stop larping as a vorthos you're not fooling anyone
>>97737991i like seeing her sufferingits like legal ryona
>>97743059You know books used to come with fat packs? MTG's stories were fun and interesting, and NO ONE could deny the incredible drop in quality of the art. It's all bland shit you'd see as advertisement for some MOBA. Faggot.
>>97743020https://youtu.be/nrizm2gnQBo?si=OybinQnCBfeP1Wv6&t=66
>>97743070You know why they stopped making those books? Because they didnt sell.That old 7ED art you say is good? Nobody liked it, your nostalgia blinds you.Nobody actually cares about the story, it's all just power levels to people, mtg is just a bunch of the best mechanics in the world with the shittiest ip, the complete opposite of pokemon tcgYou can deny this all you want but the fact is Jace appearing on pokemon tcg will be a stinky flop but Pikachu showing up as a pushed mtg mythic rare will shatter both heaven and earth
>>97743085>you're not a VorthosRefuted your point, not too interested in having this dumb fuck conversation about what's clear to see. Go figure, move from a game to a commodity that puts as many hands as they can into other franchises as they can, and retarded consumers that don't even play the game will buy. Do you think you said anything of substance in your post? Everyone that's enfranchised is well aware of the state of the game, you stupid cunt.
>>97743109>i know about the shitty books they put fat packs that makes me not a vorthos!lol any old sweat playing in the last would know about them, you've proved nothingand you know why i know you're delusional? because you can't refute that mtg is just a bunch of mechanics as the names of all 60 card decks reduce to, with players of the past putting in their own flavor (the solution, the breakfast cereal decks, etc)just look at edh, it's all just reducible to>tribal>mechanic>cedhthe only mtg lore specific decks you can build are>superfriends>eldraziand you'll be met with an audible "fag" well before any soul tells you it's cool, which is all you need to know about mtg ip, nobody builds gatewatch.dec or weatherlight.dec because they all SUCK>Do you think you said anything of substance in your post? Everyone that's enfranchised is well aware of the state of the game, you stupid cunt.and i'm here to tell you that the state of the game will be for the better, and it will be a lot easier for you if you stop dying on the hill of the Jacetice Leaguetime to bow to your new UB masters, you fool
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>>97743004it will be the only commander deck on the shelf at Walmart in a plastic security case
