Rosy Waters EditionPrevious >>97756191>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What was your favorite TQ?
>>97768645>it doesn't, that's the entire point that so called groupslug decks are often the accelerants while still being called "slug"Yes no shit, I was sarcastically answering the question of>does groupslug even really slow down the game?Also>that compared to the entire category of "groupslug" a fog/pillowfort deck with fog on demand commander is the real slugSlug != slog, anon.
>>97768649the entire argument of the anon you replied to boils down to him confusing slug with slog like an idiot and then getting even more confused about why a burn deck would be called groupslog. it's almost cute how retarded he is.
ngl I was enjoying the thread way more when funposting pictures of passports visiting this siteso let's keep it goingactual TQ:https://deck-passport.vercel.app/deck/new>fill the thread with pics of you are commander!
im craving tribalwhat are some very synergistic tribes?what are you personal favorites and why? i've tried to build elfball, but i seem to fall alseep halfway through
>>97768695yeah sure once more
>>97768695If one of you fucks baked I wouldn't have had the chance to make this.This is just punishment for your idleness.Picrel will be the next OP if you don't change your ways.
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>>97768731impeccably based
It has been brought to my attention that people were talking about me semi-recently.I return. I haven't been playing because of the current state of the game but my Tidus, Golbez, and Ureni decks are still together.
>>97768746>chains
>>97768746I am genuinely perplexed by this deck.>Chains>Forget>Treasure Vault>BroodstarThis shit is loaded with mediocre cards alongside massive powerhouse staples. How does it even win?
>>97768695today, I post my saddest deck :(
>>97768754Chains isn't even a good card.
>>97768773You must be new here, to not understand the reaction.
Slowly working on giving all my bugs extended art
>>97768746>Chains of MephistophelesIt was the only card I looked for and I'm glad to see it
>>97768777I guess but it's a very simple card that's mildly annoying and synergizes with almost 0 decks.
>>97768785Anon, I...
>>97768785>very simple>mildly annoyingJust like swordbro!
>>97768713If elves bore you you aren't actually feeling tribal, since tribal decks all play life elfball does where you just pick the strongest and most synergistic pieces and autopilot.
>>97768746What's bugging you about the current state of the game bro?
>>97768794
>>97768788>if draw extra>discard first>if cant, mill and no drawWow so hard to understand!
>>97768780>amzu and zaskI mean I bought them for 1€ but I wouldn't paint on a 10€+ card regardless how jankI appreaciate the dedication tho and the edges are getting better. do you still coat them?
>>97768806Anon, I................................
>>97768802I might genuinely change my opinion of him if it has anything to do with the overabundance of UB.
Is Light Paws still considered a "dick move" commander?
>>97768802I might genuinely change my opinion of him if it has anything to do with the underabundance of UB.
>>97768802I might genuinely feel the same about him him if it has anything to do with the perfect balance of UB.
>>97768818when all you're doing is tutoring the games end up feeling the same everytime
>>97768754Of Mephistopheles!>>97768766I use a lot of cards I find fun even if they're sillyI do wish I was running Dark Deal and Windfall though>>97768781I'm glad to hear that, it's always gotta be on display!>>97768802Honestly, it's the mix of too much UB, stupid or honestly silly new card design, a boring year ahead, and the complete lack of quality choices in IPs for UB>more sets>price higher>concepts dumber>quality control at an all time low>nosewater just picking seemingly random shit>30 of the same characterEtc etc. Haven't been to my card shop in months, I miss it but when i see shit like Hot Dog Cart and April Human Element which are both cards I'd love to run staples to unjustifiable crap, it really brings me down lmaoFF at least made sense, but shit looks like a mess so my break will likely continue until we're past the marvelshit
>>97768810Zask was worth almost nothing when I painted him and Amzu is not likely to ever leave this deck so I don't feel bad about it.I'm covering them with masking tape again, yeahAmzu lost a little bit of paint when I peeled it off earlier but it's not terrible. Also thank you!Next up is either scute swarm, scute mob or altering skullclamp to be a bug
>>97768848>30 of the same characterI hate, SO FUCKING MUCH, seeing 4+ of the same fucking character in each of these fucking UB sets. Give one, MAYBE 2, and make a different fucking card. Pic rel is inexcusable
>>97768830I was tempted to build a deck for her. Outside of a few pieces, she's cheap as peanuts and can hit like a runaway freight train.
>>97768867Yeah I find this sort of thing feels utterly disconnected from how it used to work where you'd be excited, even hype to see a character again in a later set, changed in some way. Ertai was an example I like, but 10 in the same set makes it not only not special, but actively grating.
>>97768867>>97768877The problem is these UB sets should be a SLD pack at most, but instead they get stretched out into a full set.
>>97768943I completely agree. A couple of cute cards, some reprints, print to order, boom done. Instead we get shit like TMNT and Spiderman eating cards I genuinely want to run but being unable to want to touch them. I'm gonna get some sleep but I'll pop in when i get up
>>97768818Any shuffling simulator commander is annoying.them badonkas though
>>97768746>I took off my trip and talked about myselfSad
>>97768970Checked the archive, why wait almost 3 weeks after having an argument about yourself? Spergs don't have patience.
>>97768818sure is. makes my dick move every time
>>97768859with coating I meant a protective layer on the paint afterwards. lookin' towards to any future cards
>>97768695Due to inflation the deck is now $125 but it was $98 when I made it.
>Prof:we invented a new format >It's just stolen from MTG Arena LMAO
>>97768713Elves are obviously the top of the list.Zombies have a lot of good support and already play into reanimation strats.Dragons have a lot of support but it’s just slamming fatties.There’s a lot of tribes that end up having like 1 good commander like Azami and Wizards, but that’s not normal tribal stuff it’s more that Azami let’s you draw 8 cards a turn and then just win.
>>97768990Oh right, then yes I use army painter anti-shine varnish before and after painting since it helps the paint to stick and also gives everything the same finish which helps blend everything together
>>97769006Where did he say he invented it
>>97768780Aye this dood fucks bugs
>>97768695>>97768713I've been tempted to build fairies for a while now.>>97768719>synergy cardstop kek
>>97768713Its funny when I hit the board with blasphemous act and draw 17 cards or have toralf out and everyone just drops dead from star of extinction
>>97768850Do you have a place where you're posting all of these together?
>>97768785Any milling or reanimator strategy would love chains what are you talking about? Not to mention it cucks rhystic study
>>97769147And i'll fuck them again
Threads had better quality without the furfaggot pedo amongst us.
RIP in piss reserved list
>>97768867>>97768867As a huge avatarfag, we could have just gottenAnng, the last airbenderAnng, swift saviorAnng at the crossroadsAvatar anngAnng and kataraAnd nobody would have complained
>>97769318you must love getting pinged with screaming nemesis huh
>>97769285I mean it's the same as the planets, they are not in a "functionally identical form" so they can get away with it
>>97769330Surprisingly it hasn't happened yet, I thought it'd be a more popular card.
>>97769285We don't know what Prepared is, yeah? So lemme guess: you cannot cast the not-adventure unless the creature is Prepared, and then it becomes unprepared after you do so, and you need to prepare it again to cast the not-adventure again?
>>97769285Which set is this? Reality fracture?
>>97769285>literally just needs to be flickeredLOL. FUCKING LMAO, EVEN. Auto include in every motherfucking flicker deck known to man
>>97769381Secrets of Strixhaven
>>97768688My best guess is he thought it was named after slug the animal.
Magus of KismetMagus of dreamsMagus of the chainsMagus of the cavernsMagus of the library
>>97769400time to find add a tutor for blue mage's wand to make yshtola a wizard i guess
>>97769331That one is barely an issue in elf ball. You can station that shit super easily. The Tolarian ripoff is a lot harder to get rolling though.
>>97769265I'm thinking... Based!
>>97769418Does she even need it? She can suck the board off with pretty much zero effort with any random "bad" counterspell.
>>97769229I do. I've been experimenting with putting the link on the bottom right. You should be able to use image to text to get it.I'd give you the link proper, but I want to see if people can get it from the cards themselves.Sorry for using you as the guinea-pig. If it's not working just (you) me again and you'll get the link as normal text.
>>97769476yes but you know... themes and such
>What if prowess storm but also the big spell?I don't get opus
>>97768713I like tribes that aren't just spam the board with tokens>demonshas good synergies with big mana strategies, since you get a lot of expensive demons that give you card advantage>sea monstersinfinite mana territory and lots of one-sided board wipes>clericsweird synergies with demons and reanimation, as well as cool, but not particularly strong tribal effects
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>>97768713>no one mentioned Eldrazi or Slivers They're the best tribes by far. Both have explosive power and can wreck an entire table solo if they set up.
>>97768713Sphinxes are cool, they're big and they fly like dragons so they give you a natural endgame plan to work towards while usually doing something vaguely interesting and helpful to you on attack or ETB. You're kinda shoehorned into Unesh as a commander if you want direct tribal synergy in the CZ but getting a fact or fiction on every sphinx is both on-flavor and useful. As a budgetfag the tribe gets bonus points in my book for being able to stand on their own without having to use loads of the expensive generic tribal support cards like Chronicle of Victory and 99% of Sphinxes are dirt cheap.
>>97769388Why would a flicker deck want to pay 1 mana every time it flickers when it can just pay 0 mana by playing a cantrip creature?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97769812>becomes unprepared as the spell resolves.Doesn't this mean you can put multiple prepared instants on the stack and have them all go off? It doesn't say anything about subsequent casts fizzling if the creature is no longer prepared as the prepared spells resolve.
>>97769916That is a very good point and I wonder if they thought of that (they didnt)
>>97769939Maybe the reminder text is just very incomplete, like how the miracle reminder text barely explains what miracle actually is.
How do you feel about precon only players. I have a weird philosophy where I don't want to engage with deckbuilding or any bracket/rule-0/gamechanging conversation.
>>97770052All unmodified precons and PreDH decks are bracket 1 by definition
>>97770052A burden who drags the level of the table down. If I want to match you, I suddenly have to run some weak as shit deck with no deckbuilding principles.
>>97770052don't mind them but they waive the rights to complain the moment it's known that the table isn't precon-tier and they still want to play
>>97770052I still think precons are intentionally shitty out of the box. Their #1 problem is that all precons come with an "alternative commander" and some cards for that alternative. The issue then becomes that 20 or so cards in your deck literally aren't designed for the main commander, so they just fuck up your deck. Similarly, every precon I've seen has hot ass for lands. You REALLY REALLY want an optimized land base (e.g. fetches, shocks, ancient tomb, blah blah blah) to get your game plan rolling instead of "oops all my lands enter tapped I'm forever a turn behind."
>>97769170This sounds cool. I like token decks that aren't in a huge rush to kill people.
>>97770052I'm fine with them as long as they don't bitch about other people's decks being stronger. Even if most precons are meant to be "bracket 2" your average B2 deck will still mog them because of the problems >>97770140 described.
>>97769331Pretty sure growing rites is easier to get the pay off than this, but still, its another cradle you can run with cradle and growing rites
>>97770140>I still think precons are intentionally shitty out of the boxWorld shaper precon mogs the average b2 casual deck fyi
>>97769285>6 mana draw 3
>>97770206Itlimoc is probably easier to get started but Land removal is uncommon outside of cedh.
>>97770212Same with the Ashling Elemental deck
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>>97770350My brother showed up with an unedited goblin blight nulorwyn precon and it had an infinite life combo. I forgot what it was exactly though
>>97768695Nine more for the new thread, though these are retired since I go through new decks every month or so. This is making me want to revisit them with some of the newer cards that have come out since. Especially Amber: there's a lot of strong black clerics.>>97768713I tend to build tribal decks out of things with less support. You have to rely more on unintended synergies than cards with explicit anthems or effects, which I find more rewarding.
>>97770554Grave Venerations + Bloatfly infestation + Flourishing Defense/HapatraPretty expensive 3 card combo that you need to get to without any tutors.Deck can draw like mad, but that needs set-up too.Which is honestly fair in a bracket 2
B3-4 decks that are fun to both pilot and play against? Have an esper astral slide and a Círdan Show and Tell/politics deck, want to put together a third, prioritising doing something fun/interesting
>>97768713Mistform tribal tribal, it's fun because you're playing a lot of seemingly disjointed tribal synergies but it's surprisingly easy to have it all come together with a maskwood nexus, can also be kind of voltron-y
>>97770682I've had massive fun with my Lightning (army of one) Voltron deck.>entire deck is focused on getting Sword of Butt and Fuck rotation into her hands>extra combats, double strike, etc>tell the pod every time it's my turn, I want them to point at a guy to bonk, and everyone else can take advantage of it too>pod frantically points at each other with NOT ME HIT THAT GUY HE'S THE THREATThe fact she goes lethal at a mere 7 power if you have double strike or an extra combat is insane.
>>97768695Neat thing
>>97757487Mind posting a list? I saw your deck yesterday and can't stop thinking about it
>put more than three gamechangers in your deck>maybe have some MLD thrown in too>deck isn't bracket 4 strength because your commander/the thing your deck does can never be bracket 4>can't play in bracket 4 without getting stomped>can't play in bracket 3 without people complaining We need another bracket between 3-4. Just make it 1-5, then cEDH it's own thang, gnome sayin'?
>>97770941my deck is also a 7!
>>97770941>cant stop adding all the gamechangers because i have no self-restraint>too pussy to just play cedh btw>need to put in the mld too even though they are not optimal when you have all the gamechangers>i expect to have a bracket made just for me because the world revolves around me>i expect to be taken seriously
>>97770941Yep. Running Blood Moon should not mean "you have opened yourself up to playing against Thoracle combo." All my pre-bracket decks would fall under the bracket 4 definition by game changers alone, but my philosophy is not the retarded bracket 4 "win on turn 2 is fine" philosophy.Now I just stick to bracket 3 deckbuilding, and my win rate actually went up.
>>97770976>need to put in the mld too even though they are not optimal when you have all the gamechangersSo you admit there is just no bracket where playing MLD is practical? So then we just have a full subset of cards that are utterly unplayable everywhere and thats somehow fine with you?Because god forbid traditional aggro decks which are already bad actually have a decent win condition like armageddon, that would just not be heckin chungus!!!Lol yeah nah fuck brackets
>>97770941>Guy says his deck is a 3>Okay, I'll play this 3 as well>Complains endlessly because used Tefari's in response to his infinite after he vamp tutored for bolas's citadel.People are always going to complain so just play where you fucking want with what you know is at that level.
>>97770941>take out gamechangers and MLDFixed it, now you can play bracket 2 or 3.
>>97771017>I don't want to get shut out, I only want to shut out other players who likely won't be able to deal with it.No, it is where it is meant to be. Stop being a cowardly faggot.
>>97770954>>97771044>>97770976
>>97771053Blood Moon does almost nothing in bracket 4. It's a soft ban for soft faggots like you.
>>97771032>So you admit there is just no bracket where playing MLD is practicalCorrect, you only found about this now?Wotc has long deemed them design mistakes because even in the best case scenario casuals still fuck up durdling as they blow up their own lands without any wincon on the board thus wasting everyone's time, they cannot be played casually and they are weak competitively
>>97771039They only complain because sheldon allowed this kind of mindset, by creating brackets all blame can be put now to wotc instead of the player which was the normal state of things since 1993
>>97771073No, they want to protect lands, and their pet archetype, landfall.Nevermind the fact that most MLD helps landfall because they can play out of the graveyard.
>>97771032Aggro does just fine in bracket 2, they're just called tokens
>>97771134>>97768695Woops lol wrong image
>see an old photo from my LGS back in 2012 before it got mega successful>smaller, cozier location>very few playmats in sight>spindown die instead of stupid fucking life trackers smacked in the middle of the table>all competent players who are learned 60-card expats from standard or modern or legacyHoly FUCK do I want to go back.
Hold up, people play anything but Bracket 3? It's literally the sweet spot.>you can make a competent deck, unlike 1 and 2>you don't have to deal with Thoracle and instant infinite cancer like 4 and 5>3 GC means you actually have to use your brain when building your deck instead of just jamming in a generic goodstuff pile
>>97771205>>3 GC means you actually have to use your brain when building your deck instead of just jamming in a generic goodstuff pileLet's not go crazy. It's still 3 gc + all your color identity's staples + land base, so you have maybe 30 or so unique cards per deck.
Teysa looks like a hooker
>>97771205I wish I could stay in that spot, but my regular pod feel like playing """4s""" so I need to have some decks at that level.
>>97771114A lot of people say this but it’s a non-issue.If you cast Armageddon while the landfall player has a Crucible of Worlds then you’re just actively throwing. The same way that casting Damnation while someone has Avacyn out is also throwing. Just don’t play things when your opponent has the counter already in play.
>>97771205its only annoying because a lot of people don't actually know how to build a 3 and just have 2s with gamechangers so there is a lot of accussations how someone in the pod is pubstomping. Once you get it down with more knit group and get it down its nice
>>97771201>all competent players who are learned 60-card expats from standard or modern or legacyWe're still playing, you just need to find us
>>97771205all of those are untrue tho>still no mld>can make a competent deck in 2>thoracle is still played in 3 all the time>have to deal with cancerous cards that are actually righteously banned in 2
>>97771221This isn't what hookers look like, anon.
>>97771240The average person at my LGS is a fucking moron raised on content creators.
>>97769256Mill, Discard, Ranimator, and just about any grave matters strat, yeah.
>>97770894>two Golbez decks in the same threadBased.
>>97771309>they're both the variants of "fun casual deck" and my "actually good" dimirSTOP COPYING ME
Has anyone played Tannuk, Steadfast Second? I'm wondering if one would be consistently able to play value engines and not just burning out after a couple of turns of cheating things into play. It seems fun but I'm worried I'll just be kingmaking.
>>97771053Blood Moon only punishes a greedy manabase.
>>97770107>PreDH decks are bracket 1Wtf? There's no way my Sen Triplets take everyone's shit predh deck is bracket 1.
>>97771342Your theme of not using cards beyond new phyrexia is so strong it makes you bracket 1
>>97771332No anon... stop copying ME!>>97770894Insanely based taste, if yours is B2, I'd love to see a list. I'm sure we've discussed it in the past.
>>97771260Hooker, high class escort. Same thing. Either way she fucks old men for money.
>>97771361I want to fuck 3/3 Elk's fursona in the ass
>>97771357>I'd love to see a listYou first, fag
wonder if we'll get warhammer round 2 with fantasy decks this time
>>97768695Five color can be fun if you jank it to the max
>>97771375Don't encourage the dogfucker please.
Some of the pre-cons are not too bad. I was playing a bracket 2 lobby yesterday and one of the players just opened his account and I guess you get 5 decks now including the mono black Braids one all included for like $5. It was doing well but he was the first one to lose because his commanders’s life tax on everyone made him the targetAnother dude was running a 4 color “Christmas/holiday” deck who got his shit ganked by the third player and he had some gnarly cards for decking people out which I thought was a little aggro for b2. But nothing too insane. Any way it was down to me and him eventually and he kept fogging me out and avoiding damage until I pretty much had him cornered and I used a Grim Tutor to find…wait for it…a Swords to Plowshares to get rid of his blocker to finally get the commander damage through and he about shat his pants“What! Grim tutor in bracket 2? Really!? Seems a little strong for bracket 2! It should be about creative deck building”Holy crow what a gay lord. Yeah tutor spells make perfect sense in a white black knights deck especially because I have used dark power to use to remove your creatures from the game. You LOSE.
>>97768695>>97771407my other one
>>97771375here it is in paper >>97768746 and thanks for forcing me to log in to a website i haven't used in foreverhttps://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collection>>97771409Not for nothing, but since it's been so long i don't recall why i was called this. Would you care to refresh me so i can be properly offended by your insult?>>97771414>I also have a Golbez deckHoly based>Akal Pakal>Artisan of KozilekI gotta ask, is Akal any good? I wanted it in mine but I kept cutting it when refining despite thinking it could be super fun.
>>97771441Akal really does help out late game you probably don't want him out before you get your 8 artifacts on the field unless you need something he tossed in the graveyard.
>>97771441>name droppedReee. Can they just make it so it stays in the field when on specific boards and not on others? going back and forth is cumbersome at times.since i have to make this post anyway i just wanna bitch extra hard about how mad i am these two cards got relegated to dogshit tie-ins despite both being cards I want to use>>97771471Okay I could see that, i was considering him since i use stuff like Faerie Artisans because at that point you're likely getting a token per turn unless people are actively denying you or playing extremely creature-light decks
>>97768746>>97771482These threads were much better without you and you have not been missed.I can only assume youre back because whatever community you tried to insinuate yourself into told you to fuck off.
>>97771527>These threads were much betterthere's zero reason to lie in this situation anon the threads were not better in any way. It was filled with constant arguing about UB
>>97771357https://archidekt.com/decks/14048916/golbez_artifacts
>>97771527really mean, leave him alone
>>97771546Swordbro likes Golbez which means he appreciates superior japanese ip as UB, therefore he can stay here
>>97768695very fun decks postedboring mono red storm deck coming through
Commander above bracket 2 shouldnt exist and if you engage in it you are part of the problem
Ancestral recall is getting stapled onto a creature as an Adventure in Strixhaven btw
>>97771551>>97771569Put the trip back on.
>>97771663>he thinks i'm swordbro
>>97771550Ayy thanks, gonna look this over>>97771569I also appreciate superior fantasy series UB too instead of things like Marvel and TMNT lmao>>97771656Hey yeah, I saw that! it seems a bit stupid and overkill, and I really wish they'd not do that, but it isn't the end of the world, just potentially really stupidhere's the card
>>97771697You laugh but marvel and tmnt are indeed better than the mtg story which btw is on chapter 3 now but ofc you dont care because mtg lore SUCKS
>>97771663this is supposed to be a friendly, tolerant and inclusive community, be nice
>>97771706The last time I liked MTG's overarching plot/lore was pre-Zendikar, but I think the important bit is the seeing of original characters, concepts, and the nuggets of flavor in what used to be the spot for flavor text and is now just the "third paragraph on this creature" spot. Things felt fantastical, magical, and mysterious at times. As for the books, i read through all of the weatherlight stuff at a teen and the Mirrodin cycle which i consider genuinely very gripping and entertaining. i always wanted a Bruenna card.also>TMNT>plot better than anythingI can concede marvel has had good plots just from sheer breadth, but doesn't TMNT only have like that one story anyone actually likes where 90% of the characters are dead?
>>97771527>when swordbro wasn't around poopdickschizo would shit up almost every threadStop being stupid Anon
>>97771205Cool anyway I play Rhystic Study and The One Ring.
If you don't understand why you use a tripcode you shouldn't be using a tripcode. It's not a faggy username or forum signature and if you get shat on for using it like one you get precisely what you deserve.
>>97771697>no countersI LOVE arena mechanics that don't use anything to track in paper!
>>97771671>>97771720>swordtard is gone>if his name gets brought up it’s people absolutely shitting on him>swordtard comes back>suddenly “anonymous” dick suckers post to defend his honor whenever he gets insultedIt’s so fucking transparent
>>97771720source?
>>97768695The Cheese stands alone
>>97771748You mean the guy who shitposts about UB being so great that it should replace Magic altogether? I hate that guy
>>97769916You can only cast the spell if the creature is prepared. If it's not prepared, you can't cast the spell. It stopping being prepared is the cost to cast the spell. Are you retarded?
>>97771778Yeah, it's called shitposting.>express opinion>surprised anyone would rattle your bones by disagreeing with you>when you're this volatile and a crybabyI don't give a fuck about swordfag but I LOVE rustling jimmies.
>>97771805You have to be over 18 to post on this site
>>97771791"As the spell resolves". That's after, not during.
>>97771813I wish you would die
>>97771815>shitposting is for childrenFirst day on 4chan?
>>97771786it's common human decency, duh>>97771778the way I look at it, he's just posting about what he enjoys, you're complaining is what's actually making this a low quality thread
>>97771832>it's common human decency, duhHHAHAHAHAHH
>>97771791It says the cast condition is "being prepared" and it ceases to be prepared after resolution so according to the posted description you could absolutely cast an instant multiple times.
>>97771776I have mixed opinions on it, but I find myself more worrying about flicker spam to get repeated, easy Ancestral Recalls>>97771848I find that wording worrying now that you mention it, I'm sure they'll change it to make it work as intended, but still.
>>97771848It's definitely not going to work like that because if it did work like that you could just cast 30 Ancestral Recalls and the "become prepared" issue would not matter. Most efficient manasink of all time
>>97771857>>97768848>I'm sure they'll change it to make it work as intended, but stillQuality control at an all time low, huh?
>>97771825no
>>97771884Well yeah, I don't even know if the image with the ability description is real. We both have the same amount of limited information here.
>GreenThe whore color. 'I need lands and permanent protection for my other colors'>BlueThe faggot color. 'I want removal for anything for free, also I want to draw to do things in other colors. also known as the ceiling bird chirp color'>RedThe retard color. 'I have the coolest design space, but also no means to make it functional'>Blackthe bitcher color. ' I have the lowest life stop focusing me. wow, stop exiling my graveyard. stop countering me. stop trying to stop my combos god.'>Whitethe loser color. 'I don't have anything, so I'm just going to exile everyones shit and make up a bunch of rules because I'm a piece of shit and that's all I have going for me and I DONT LOSE, NUH UH IM NOT HERE IM PHASED OUT'
>>97771441>https://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collectionThis deck has the most terrifying imposter syndrome shit I've ever seen. On one hand you have so many powerful, gamebreakingly good cards and fast mana. On the other you have shit like Forget, Cyber Controller, Faerie Artisans, the bad Tezzeret, etc. Why not just commit to B4 if you're going to be stuck playing there anyway?
>>97771579>knightShe should've bee a monk. She has a god damn staff
>>97772002She literally is a knight. She is called Syr. She is from the magic knight plane and is wielding a magic lightning staff. What are you talking about?
Did someone say Golbez pile? https://moxfield.com/decks/cCGcgb4DNEmGp9an0qy5Dg
>>97771975>ForgetHonestly, I could replace this with Windfall, but it's kind of a fun little card to have sitting around. Dark Deal is also an acceptable card for it, but I usually only like to wheel when I have Chains out.>Cyber-ControllerSo I've cast this nigga a total of 1 time, and it was for X = 21 because of KCI. Immediate triple concession, because it would've been 21 cards milled from each, all of their creatures put face-down on my field, and because Golbez and Enhanced Surveillance were out, each and every single one of them would have resulted in Surveil 3. Even if it was only a 3rd, or a 5th of the cards as creatures, that's like 12-15 Surveil 3 attached to the already taxing action. It's not good, but it sure can be funny.>Faerie ArtisansGenuinely if it cost 1 mana less I'd be in love with it, but the ceiling on the card goes up as decks get better. lots of people playing strong ETB effect creatures to maximize value and then suddenly I get the value too.>Tezzeretetb loyalty funny, lets me untap sol ring if I want, but the big one is just grabbing mana rocks and artifact lands from my deck. In a deck with 31 lands, it helps a surprising amount.>>97772033YOO MORE GOLBEZ
>>97771975Anon "bad Tezzeret" plays Vintage. Fetching a mox or mana rock every turn alone is viable.
>>97772086Not to mention being 3cmc, neutral mana only, and being activatable on the first turn he's out. New Tezzeret FUCKS.
>>97771441>>97771357>Ai makes good Golbez artFuck.
>>97772002>the commander is a monk, that counts
Swordbro is back? Let's gooooo
>>97772197Saddest way imaginable. >I don't play anymore>I don't go to my LGS anymore>I never log in to archidekt>I don't like the direction the game is going>Game quality badIf anything, he went from a guy who loved magic to a fucking doomer.
>>97771205I build for bracket 2 because I don't like overtuned cards. Bigger banlist/GC list pls, wotc.
>>97771221Mommy looks so much better here, and it's a picture for ants.
>>97771361Anon, she is the Orzhov guild leader. She does not need to fuck anyone for money. She has all the money in the world. She is the one printing the money.
>>97772253GC every staple card in every color.>Swords to Plowshares?>GC>Rampant Growth?>GC>Counterspell?>GC>Etc etcForce build diversity.
>>97772295>wow these staples aren't staples anymore!>new batch of cards become staples because they are just the slightly worse versions of the previous cards
I have trouble finding reasons to not put those 4 cards into every black deck
>>97768867Jesus. I pretty much completely ignored the set despite ATLA being my favorite show, but they could have absolutely just have had the Last Airbender and Avatar Aang cards. If they really wanted to stretch it, take the middle four to represent him as he learns each element. Everything else is filler BS that they could have 100% used other characters for.m, not that I wanted the set at all, ideally it wouldn't exist, along with all UBshit.
>>97772352>Good>shit>shit>Good
>>97772295>Counterspell as GC when there's Mana Drain
>>97772395Ban mana drain. Problem solved.
>>97772213so he actually grew braincells?
>>97772295This doesn't really work because there are like a dozens of cards that do the same things for the same mana as there cards, though.
>>97772481>being a depressed faggot who can't enjoy anything is being smartGod you 14 year olds are miserable to deal with.
>>97772359the middle four are the ones in the main set and are supposed to be him learning each element. the top right is from the scene box, the bottom is a promo I've never seen before, and the other three are from the jumpstart boosters.if it were a few years ago, I'd say 'this is fine for the average player because only the middle row is standard legal, but confusing for commander players' but the average player now is a commander player.that said, I think only the middle middle two see any play, with rarely the bant and experience counter ones getting used as commanders, and the 4 (secretly five) color one being used exclusively as the commander for set-constructed slop.
>>97772361>draw 1 card in 2 turns for 2 mana of a removalable permanent? Great.>draw 2 cards right now for 2 mana on a nonpermanent? Unplayable.Growing up is realising that Phyrexian Arena and their ilk just aren't that good.
>>97772511>who can't enjoy anythingFalse, he can't enjoy slop, because slop is for pigs with not taste, piggie.
I would like to announce to the thread that, to my own personal shame, the bonus cards (that I got) with the decent-value d&d secret lairs were the ten cent uncommons Dungeon Delver and You Find Some Prisoners.
>>97772555>saying this>when he literally posted an FF deck and mentioned another one and a Ureni deckYeah Temur Dragons and FFslop aren't slop.
>>97769285Maybe I'm retarded, but wouldn't you use simple symbols for sets before you start using these convoluted piece of shit symbols?What's wrong with a hexagon or skull or what have you instead of this gobbledygook that they use for strixhaven?
>>97772596it is a skull tho..
>>97772596It's an owl face blindbro.
>>97772505>like a dozens of cards that do the same things for the same mana as there cards, though.Dozens of 1 mana instants in white that exile a creature? Where?
>>97772596it's a book open on a stand
>>97772596The set symbol is an owl you doofus
>>97772596it's just a shining chisel chill
>>97772605>>97772608You're retarded or why don't you get what I mean? Less is more sometimes. Don't need all these bells and whistles for a set symbol in my opinion. Make the design simpler but more memorable or iconic.You won. Your retarded behavior is victorious.
>>97772648Bro I think you have agnosia.
>get swung at with a 30 power bumbleflower and 20 million tokens with craterhoof>already countered my darkness>gideon's sacrifice my phyrexian obliterator>sacrifices his infinite board state >gets pissy
>>97772596What is wrong with a simple hammer on a rack icon?
>>97772596>>97772648I agree, but I also know they're going to end up doing more and more complicated symbols as things go on. symbols with good silhouettes at that size are going to run out. they've at least kept the 'graphic design is my passion' types to commander sets. if it's an owl, they could have probably made a better owl, but also an owl would be pretty hard at set symbol size.
>>97771790No, the guy who thinks the exact opposite.
>>97772663Retards get pissy about everything>bracket 4>get told that my 3 card combo of top, etherium sculptor and mystic forge is "cedh">bracket 3>get told that using wasteland to anhilate some faggots proxy gaeas cradle is bas because its land destruction >bracket 2>using the dr who villains deck. Entirely unedited. BONE FUCKING STOCK. Manage to get a bunch of Dalek tokens with myriad and afflict 3. This is too much for Timmy.The moral of the story is to ignore these retards that cant handle games they explicitly signed up for.
>>97772610Bodied that freak
>>97772663>guy has a powerful deck that relies on ETBs>I'm chilling with a hushbringer completely shutting him down>Mono-green tifa swings at me for 64 damage for some reason>Ask him if he really think's I'm the threat>"Hushbringer is shutting me down too.">"How">"It stops my landfall triggers doesn't it?">"You mean the triggers that pumped you up to 64 power this turn that weren't stopped?">"Oh, well I'm taking you out anyway.">Vivi player looks at me and shrugs then goes infinite on his turn after the ETB player I was shutting down built a massive board in his turn that would have won after a rotation.>"Well, at least I wasn't last place, I don't know why I can't ever win." as he sulksWhether its a poor ability to read the board or just can't accept someone outplayed them, retards are gonna retard
>>97772775Sounds like you placed 4th and are seething.
You and the rest of /edhg/ are being marooned on an island, what three decks are you bringing?
>>97772806There is no 4th place. There is you won or you lost.
>>97772813Pfft. Keep crying
>>97772813there is no win or lose, only have or didn't have fun
>>97772812>300 cards Somebody who's good at math can figure out how many decks you can shove into 300 cards instead of taking just 3 decks.
>>97772812None, sea air is bad for cards.
>>97772813>He's playing edh because he cares about winning So why not cedh, loser?
>>97772843I really don't care if I win or lose, I'm just stating a fact. You people need to stop projecting your own insecurities onto others.
>>97772841>he keeps Swordbro's face on his PCCute!
>>97772775>Please don't kill me, I'm not a threat!!Always the most annoying players. Have you thought about using a card to not lose there or were you just hoping to survive by sheer luck?
>>97772860Asking someone if they want to make the move they are making in a casual format isn't begging.Stop projecting.
>>97772843>playing to win only matters if you're in a format with all the broken cardsDamn i guess all my modern and standard victories dont count because they arent vintage....
>>97772867Keep crying. Somebody killed you and you did nothing about it.
>>97772860>Just have it broDon't be a fucking larping retard.
>>97772874Embarrassing nonsensical whataboutism.
>>97772881>Just don't kill me, bro Keep embarrassing yourself, retard. Like you projected. Retards like you gonna retard.
>>97772884yeah? well, you're GAYY
you're all the same person
>>97772775>completely shut out one player>you are likely doing shit to try and shut out tifa chad>WHY MEEEEEFuck you
Uh oh meltyKeep going retard
>>97772893not meI'm an individual
>>97772907faggot
>>97772867Crying how you're not a threat is way more pathetic than begging, you're correct, retard.
>>97772841updated image of the big boy
>>97772905>Playing hushbringer to attempt to stop something it doesn't stopI now know that in my experience of 2 "tifa chads" they have a 100% rate of mental retardation.
>>97772812Rog/Si so they kill me early on and I'm freed the torment.
>>97772812three different lantern control/stax decks
>>97772775>has a hushbringer and nothing else >"you're not allowed to attack me for some unknown reason" "you sure that I'm a threat?"you're the reason why games go on longer than they should. play something that protects against a giant tifa. remove his tifa earlier? use politics with another guy. a lot of options there. you chose one option. whining here and hoping that everyone agrees with you. tough luck
>>97772773Can I get the list for this? Been trying to build him but I haven't managed to get it out of bracket 2 yet in power.
>>97772940Must be why they play with you. You're clearly always the dumbest retard at your lgs.
>>97772977>blah blah blah>I will defend poor threat assessment and inability to know mechanics because I feel personally attacked because another tifa player eats their own boogers.Why are you replying to this post over and over again? It wasn't the right play. Its that simple.
>>97772940So you ONLY had a hushbringer? That's it?
>>97772989Its only bracket 3 by merit of the GCs in the deck. Frankly if I wanted to have a better time playing reanimator I'd play Teval or Hashaton, but I like Emet-Selch. That being said https://moxfield.com/decks/rfFOgneroUy5s0X3WsjnVg
>>97771253Efficient 2 card combos aren't allowed in 3, if some fag is running Thoracle in your B3 pod you are legally obligated to beat them with a stick.
>>97773067>Efficient 2 card combos aren't allowed in 3They are, but only if after turn 6
>>97773155From the bracket article:>not have any two-card infinite combos that can happen cheaply and in about the first six or so turns of the gameRead that carefully anon. It doesn't say "don't play your cheap 2 card combo until after turn 6 in bracket 3", it's saying "if your combo is capable of being deployed before turn 6, it's too strong for bracket 3". Sandbagging a 3 mana 2 card combo until after turn 6 isn't allowed.
>>97772775>"Well, at least I wasn't last placeThis retardation is kingmaking in the worst possible way. There are only winners and losers. One person wins, 3 people lose. There are no degrees of losing.
>>97773244>One person wins, 3 people lose. There are no degrees of losing.Yep, if you ain't first, you're last.
>>97773061May your homeland avoid hellspawns created by the power of unwanted thought magic.
>>97773244>There are no degrees of losing.sounds like something someone who loses first all the time would say
>>97773499Only a perennial loser would hold onto the belief that losing 3rd is less of a loss than 4th, losing is losing in commander.
>coming up on one year of playing EDH>pretty good at game sense and mechanics>still absolutely dogshit at understanding process and structure for building Commanders for this feel?
>>97773592Anything tribal. Just grab all your best elves or goblins and you've got a playable deck. Better yet just grab both.
>>97773592The Ur-Dragon
When I cast an enchantment with this retard on the board, it hits and becomes a creature, does it trigger garruk's uprising for the etb draw?
>>97773550>Only a perennial loser wouldI don't listen to first losers sorry anon
>>97773716It enters as a creature yes, bellos effect is static
>>97773739My playgroup lied to me then
>>97773756they're just dumb noobies, same as you. It's still an enchantment spell on the stack so the confusion is understandable
>>97773015
>>97772931Swordbro actually looks quite powerful. Tbh I'd rather play with him than most anons
>>97773898>powerfulhe's cultivating mass
Swordtard is a fat narcissist and the day he dies the world will be a better place
>>97772687You mean literally everyone on /edhg/?
>>97773934Ogremaxxing
>>97774073Could be cyclopsmaxxing too.
>>97774160Are you a "Crush them!" or a "We eat!" type of guy
>>97773228>Read that carefully anon. It doesn't say "don't play your cheap 2 card combo until after turn 6 in bracket 3", it's saying "if your combo is capable of being deployed before turn 6, it's too strong for bracket 3".>Sandbagging a 3 mana 2 card combo until after turn 6 isn't allowed.gavin just wants a guy to have a thoracle consult combo with no tutors and he should be able to win turn 3 - hey, no tutors, so it's inconsistentthe issue is that if you push this to its logical conclusion it then becomes a matter of determining what is 'inconsistent' enough for you to angleshoot people; is a 5% chance to combo off before turn 7 good enough to fool people? what about 10%? 25%?this is why at LGSs they put a hard limit wherein you can only combo off in b3 at your turn 7 regardless of your combo's consistency
>>97773592>build deck>test it>take out all the cards that felt bad and replace them with better cards>repeatjust keep it simple. don't fill the decks with a bunch of different mechanics "just in case". focus on one thing, then do the thing well.
Casted a total of 5 spells in an hour and a half game on turn 7. 3 other players were burning all of their interaction stopping combos and value engines/tutors. >t3 squall>t4 life of the party>board wipe>t5 return the favor an earth bend and counterspell>t6 kazuul (everyone is out of removal and low hand sizes)>t7 disrupt decorum (scute swarms, rats, dinos)>last player remaining does triumph of the hordes his 1 million scute 1/1 scute swarms into kazuul, but also has a 20/20 dark depths I cant block>deflecting palm and kill him (hes at 8 life)
>>977743776*
>>97773592Trial and error, plenty of youtube channels that will help you approach deckbuilding more critically as well (salubrious snail, etc). There's a 90%+ chance you're running less lands than you should, and trying to do too many things or include too many synergies/strategies at once.
>>97771697>ETB's prepared>Need to be prepared to cast his spell>Goes infinite with Displacer Kitten as long as you have the manaWe did it again. We have once again broken Displacer Kitten
>person in my pod says me swapping decks is like changing the channel because all my decks are UB
>>97768695>missing archetypes in archetype list>core cards doesn't have all cards selectableok
>>97769388I can include this in my boros blink now?
>>97768695It's five color, technically. Site doesn't recognize Clara's color changing ability.
test
It's official. 36 lands is the perfect amount for commander.
>>97775127What is your avg mana cost and total mana value?
Are myrs fun?
>>97775284Until someone vandal blasts you
>>97775284They are fun in the sense that they are artifact idiots that you can feed to kci. They don't do much outside of galvanizer combos and tapping for mana.
>>97775195The average mana value of your main deck is 1.69 with lands and 2.65 without lands. The median mana value of your main deck is 2 with lands and 3 without lands. This deck's total mana value is 167.
Bracket 4, off meta cedh is where it's at.
>>97775580bracket 4 is just "my deck is a 7"
>>97775712As Sheldon intended
>>97775712nay
>>97775775This format would be a lot better if we all stopped sucking sheldon's dead cock
>>977757127 is a 3
>>97775829I'm gonna be honest, this is a pretty sad result
>>97776024What happens when you make a deck with a single piece of MLD for a finisher
>>97774377>deflecting palmNOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST WIN LIKE THAT THAT'S CHEATING
>>97773267>>97773244Bringing the wise words of Ricky Bobby to every game is essential.
>>97772610>that specificNo, there are dozens of one mana creature removal spells. Why target white with the ban?
>>97776393>why target whitePretty sure he was just pointing out staples. Which swords and path are
>>97772663That's such a fun interaction, I really don't understand people getting pissy over such a thing.
>>97775284Tribal is basically never fun. Too easy to build, to easy to play. Baby mode.
>>97776460It doesn't help that WotC basically stopped trying to make tribes feel distinct.>Play a lot of (type)>For each (type) put +1/+1 on (type)Wooow.
>>97776407Right, but they are stappes in white partially because whit edoesn't uave thar much removal, not because they are overtuned as the comment her was responding to was saying.
>>97776498100%. Tribes should have always been about a mechanic that most of the tribe works with, and commanders for those tribes should work with those mechanics in some way. If a tribe doesn't have mechanically coinsiding mechanics, it shouldn't have a commander.
>>97776569>white doesn't have that much removal
>watch swordbro stream>his friend is just yelling "SWORDBRO LIKES TO GRAB LITTLE BABIES" over and over
>>97776617hahahaha
>>97776636>nearly 1.6k isn't a lot because green has moreWhat a really dumb argument.
>>97776635>He's talking about himself as his "herald" again
>>97776643the point is white has the least removal out of all the colors
>brackets are supposed to be partially vibe based>pubstompers immediately ignore that and use the rules as written to put their compfag decks into b2/3many such cases
>>97775391Yeah 36 would work with that.
>>97776617*Actually decent creature removal.
>>97776676>Ignore the rules and turbo into Thoracle comboHeh... I swear I don't usually get it off on turn 2...
>>97776676>brackets are supposed to be partially vibe basedsheldon made an entire generation believe in a lie'vibes' are between your friends and you should know better than to expect total randoms to read your mind
>>97774065PDS is not everyone even though he thinks he is lmao
>>97773756Bello is a surprisingly complex card and requires knowledge on a few obscure rulings to get the most out of him.
>>97772274
>>97777000>>97771221built for rotting undead cock
>>97777026*ghost cock
I wish angel tokens were more viable as a deck.
I open boxes and make decks out of them instead of buying individual cards.
>>97777201The most fun I ever had playing Commander was a sealed event my LGS did where everybody got a box of Final Fantasy and had to build a 60 card singleton EDH deck from it.
>>97771407I came to the same conclusion
>>97777221I have opened many boxes just to get a rhystic study.
>>97771697Ok so what is prepared?
>>97768771But you get one of the coolest tokens out of the exchange.
>>97768695Simple straightforward draw and discard while going for commander damage.>>97768771I like this pairing for full access to all the rakdos goblin stuff too. Backgrounds are cool. They're a mechanic I'd really want to see revisited.
>>97777000>no massive cleavage not my tit monster
7773244>he pulled out his phone to samefag Embarrassingly pathetic samefag. Stop replying to your own posts and agreeing with yourself
>>97772775>blah blah blah>Mommy, I'm still mad that I lost firstCry about it, bitchlmao
>>97776393He said "same mana". Not my problem that he's a fucking idiot
*bolts you*
>>97779696Bretty good, but 8 for that is kinda poopy
>>97778181You can reply to posts by clicking the post number! Hope this helps newfren
>wins you the game for two manaPsh. Nothing personal, kid.
>>97780877rog/sialways jammingnever wrong/si
>>97768695Reason why I cant have more than 2 decks (other is the yshtola precon). I hope the golgari precon can make me feel the same high's as this bitch does.
>>97768695This deck is fun but I need another alternative wincon. Might have to add Baneslayer Angel or something to help closeout games when donation doesn't work.
>bunch of pats glazing swordtard get deleted>suddenly swordtard isn’t posting>been gone 12 hours now>he will return and insist he wasn’t banned it’s all just coincidence I have not missed these games.
>>97781195>I hate him so much I will just bring him up unprompted and talk about him, that'll show him! That'll show the attentionseeking retard that I won't give him attentionFuck off retard.
>>97768695This deck is my baby. Kill people with dragon beats. Even when I don't win I usually get atleast one big dragon swarm attack in, which is satisfying.
I got to play my Sauron deck a bunch more recently and made some adjustments, but i still feel like it needs more ramp/fast mana.https://moxfield.com/decks/Cbql73Bs3EmaHU92IRRXFgWhat could i cut and what should i add to make getting Sauron out on turn 4 a bit more consistent?
>>97781340>Mox Opal>Chrome Mox>Cabal Ritual
>>97781340>Pyretic Ritual>Desperate Ritual>Seething Song>Jeska's Will>Culling the Weak>Burnt OfferingIt's like you didn't even try, anon.
Did TMNT kill all interest in this thread? It moves so slow these days.
>>97781828Set cadence for the rest of the year basically snuffs out the ragebait posting going on here. The next set out isnt UB and the next set out after that is Hobbit, so all of the people who came to rage out about "muh jarring UB" have nothing to say until like october or whenever Star Trek comes out. So now there's nothing to talk about except the actual game.
This is your warning! Should this Thread reach image limit at page ten and there's no new bake within an hour, I'll bake.And you don't want me to bake.
>>97781948I care about as much as about in universe sets. and that is none as any non-cuck should
>>97780877>>97781082Bruh this shit sucks fr u go for a win and get countered then midrange chad 1 of 3 immediately wins afterwards, this is every cedh game ever played, how have you guys not figured this out yetNevermind if something like pic related comes out turn 1 and you just lose from no breach and no bitches LOL
>>97781594>>97781498Well it's a somewhat budget-ish bracket 2 so moxes or game changers aren't really an option haha also can't really do culling the weak since I only have sac fodder once sauron is already out.But yeah I mean, what could i take for any of those? I really feel it's hard to make any cuts now, I already don't have enough interaction either.
>>97781912Star Trek will be awesome if it focuses on TNG, original series and 90s trek. If it focuses on the cartoon and academy and strange new worlds, it's DOA
Ugh, FINE>>97782044>>97782044>>97782044
>>97782000>jamming for the win sucks you get shut down then someone else wins>but playing not to lose until someone chain of vapors muh hate piece is totally finebad larpanyways all the top cedh decks have a very slightly higher than 25% chance to make top cut (conversion rate) and that's all you can really ask for
>>97782064CEDH statistically is all about seat order- end of story. It never will be a true competitive format until this problem is solved. Seat 1 ALWAYS has a dramatically higher win percentage than the other seats. That's why tournament cEDH is dominated by yapping YouTube fags who politick and angle shoot their way to 12 hours games because the neuro divergent no-name nerds they play against are too afraid to speak up against "a pillar of the cedh community".
>>97782295But enough about being under the gun and being on the button in the obviously competitive texas hold em poker
>>97782587CEDH fags need to accept they will never have a truly competitive format.
>>97782684Then neither is texas holdem competitive but you seem unable to admit that, curious
>>97782741Whataboutism is not an argument, cedhfag boi
>>97782791Uh oh casual melty
>>97782797You're the one melting cedh Boi. Your hyper competitive format is just as competitive as the average LGS bracket 2 game.
>>97782868>Your hyper competitive format is just as competitive as the average LGS bracket 2 game.Sure thing bud now stop crying when i pop off turn1 thoracle on your shit deck it's all just a children's card game anyway right roru rumao
