Morgiana le Fay edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>97769163>Thread Question:Which Fantasy army has the strongest visual identity in the art created for it over the years?
>TQI dont care what anyone says, elves, empire, vampire counts, chaos undivided, green skins. ARE NOT THE FUCKING ANSWER, HAHA ITS NURGLE BITCH!
>>97784868Lizards
>>97784868>TQ The Dawi Zharr.
Would it be alright if I was to use this Empire model on the table as scenery?
>>97785073If you put this on the back of a tarrasque...
>>97785073If you removed the legs maybe.
>>97785073Much too sick for TOW, will make your cathay player shidd and fard over how garbage his furries look next to it.
I have grown very fond of this monopose chaos warrior. Getting more could be fun, but they're surprisingly expensive at around $7 per model and I'd rather spend that kind of money on metal than on plastic. Maybe I'll just use him as a unit champion.
All the Dark Elf stuff in Cities of Sigmar except for some reason the Executioners/Black Guard kit has gone from Temporarily Out Of Stock to Sold Out Online.Dark Elfs are coming home
>>97785390FUCKING FINALLY WOOOOOOOOOOOOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0siYUjV9UM&list=RDK0siYUjV9UM
>>97784868>TQTomb Kings. Their art really hit above what it could have been with generic egyptian mummies. But it went just that little bit extra.
>>97785308I've got 30 and never paid more than $2 each. Can get the similar ones from heroquest too if you keep your eyes peeled
>>97785308Is it hard knowing you failed your wife and daughter(male)
>>97785308Not mine but thought it looked cool.
>>97785798>trans mentioned unprovoked Absolutely obsessed
Fix my retarded autism /tg/>love orcs to bits>first army when was a young teen, classic rules arguments and all>come back to them years later in TOW>removed animosity>OCD over their army "changes">feel like im "cheating" and not playing the actual orc army >but fucking love playing them again x years laterIts dumb, its stupid, and i need to be shitposted to help my OCD.Repostahn cause I had it at the end of last thread
>>97785308Use Humphrey as a unit champion of course. Looks great!
>>97785876>orc player>retardedNot sure what your fretting about everything seems in order
>>97785924Exactly. Most armies lost their quirks and other stuff from older editions but I feel using Orcs in their current state, while fun and objectively fine, I am using them "unfairly" since they got a buff by losing animosity. Its weird.
>>97784868TK>>97785518this
>>97785073Would've been cooler if it was a flying wizard rower.
>>97785308If you don't mind 3d proonts, there are some really good scans of this guy, the battle masters and heroquest ones on thingiverse, I got a couple to pad out my units of originals and the difference is nearly imperceptible.
>>97785812>Skeletal chaos champion God, realm of chaos went so hard
>>97785073I think everyone would prefer it if you used it as a buttplug, ideally after gluing multiple razorblades to the exterior.
>>97786012Nah it's sick and very warhammer coded your just trying to hard to impress a bunch of random anons
>>97786021>warhammer codedNice try, raider.
>>97786021I wanted to show you guys my bvll and his bvddies. Are they warhammer coded, anon? Pls respond.
>>97785073The saddest part is that AoSissies will look you in the eye and unironically tell you that this trash is great design and that AoS has THE best minis
>>97785073it's not that big for a scenery piece and it would be a waste if troops couldn't occupy it and move it around, or if you were to remove all the crew and guns
>>97786113For some reason the song "macho man" by the Village People came to mind looking at this image.
>>97786133Let them have their $200+ delusion.
>>97785073There is no universe in which this thing is able to walk. This whole CoS wave is actually a mess because they brought down the tech level compared to the Empire and now they're just doing whatever they feel like.
>>97786216There is no universe where a giant is able to walk and a dragon is able to fly either.Fantasy gets away with a lots of physical impracticalities for rule of cool.
>>97786247Both of those are quite easy to suspend my disbelief for actually. Likewise I could buy a floating wizard tower. That thing not in a million years however.
>>97785073>stone armoured tower>legs and base are made of wood
>>97786216>There is no universe in which this thing is able to walk.>
>>97786256It uses the same identical suspension of disbelief.
>>97786265Sorry GW but design better mechanisms next time and maybe I'll grant you my seal of approval.
This shit looks more retarded than the clockwork horse mount.
>>97785308>>97774038>This super old-school chaos warrior has been sitting on my desk for years and I finally got around to painting him. I will name him Humphrey and he will almost certainly never take to the field of battle.Don't be gay ass faggot and just allow your old boy to join other chaos warriors. He still wants to spill blood in the name of chaos gods!
>>97786268but there are mechanisms for it to lift the leg and move it forward or backwards
>>97786282anon, dont bother. Something like Man o War and art that blended fantasy with 40k would be too much for him.
>>97785073Controversial opinion? But with a bit of work "sure". Swap the guns and crew to more empire friendly stuff and its "in line" enough with some of the more extreme art to come out of 7th and 8th. Some sort of weird imperial engineering defense project.
>>97784868Its obviously chaos, not even close.
>>97786335I agree
>>97786113ANOTHER fucking beastanon.Fucking based Brutha, one of us.Also yes your bull is warhammer coded
>>97786377I was thinking of that giant wheeled fortress thing some flagellants were pulling, but yea, sorta. The empire has been known to have these over the top impractical machinery things in the background. The cogfort would not work as a unit. But as a "background element" or even a scenario thing? I think it could be made to fit. "The mad engineer Diedrich Von Hassel of Nuln envisioned the walking forts for what he believed was the future of imperial defensive warfare. Where rather than having to sally out from their fortresses the men of the empire could patrol their borders from mobile fortifications in safety (and comfort). Unfortunately the scope of his ambition far outstripped his ability, and Diedrich died working on his first (and only) such monstrosity, which now overlooks his home town of Grosshel."Could have a mission where the imperial defenders try to activate it to help defend against some sort of attacking army or something. Its definetly a dumb design and shouldnt be common, but its exactly the sort of dumb extravagance that could make for a fun "exception" in the setting (much like the original dwarf airship, before they decided thats just "a thing")
>>97786335>>97786377If you consider 7th and 8th edition canon then yeah AoS is the game for you.
>>97786039>raiderI would bet money I've posted my models more than you have.
>>97786401Ulric's thunder is from 6th edition little fakegrog
>>97785073The design is absolute dogshit, but I will admit... I really like the concept of a walking tower. Too bad nuGW always fails on the execution, no matter how cool the concept is
>>97786180Is it because the shirtless muscle men?>>97786396I started painting in december, only 5 ungors and a ghorgon to go for 1k, fully painted. Thanks anon.
>>97786021>warhammer codedno its fucking not retard>>97786113i like your beasts and bases and skaven mug anon
Anyone here played Heralds of Darkness?
>>97786687Are you the "I wish warhammer was real" autist?
>>97786812uhmmmm….
>>97785073>>97785079decided to get ai to make my concepts
>>97787075and an alternative where its a mount for a prophetess.
>>97787075pick up a pen and make a shitty drawing instead
>>97787070I also saw this pic on insta and was about to post it
>>97787086I dunno lacks the gravitas.
>>97787103SOVL
>>97787103infinitely more soulful than ai shit
>>97787107>>97787104soulful sure, but the clarity of my vision is more accurately portrayed by the AI. and in this case I'm not posting the image on its artistic merit, but rather because I want people to fully understand the vision that I have in my head which is better represented by the AI version.If this was judging on artistic merit then of course the soulful scribble is better. But I'm not asking you to judge the artistic merit of the piece, Just the concept in of itself. In which case, the AI is just fine. and you ludites need to get your sticks out of your arses.
>>97787124>which is better represented by the AI versionBet you 5 dorrars you can represent it better with basic photoshop
>>97787138Why should I buy or pirate photoshop just to satisfy your autism. fuck off.
>>97787151you can use any other free image editor, that wasn't photoshop either, it took less than one minute
>>97787156And who the fuck are you and why should I bend over backwards just for you. Just because your feelings were hurt and you saw an ai concept image.
>>97787075Neat. I like Valois Snapping turtle.
Think this is in WFRPG too, but I like downtime resource generation.Got a bloodhound and the dwarf made some "look natural" lagers that help social stealth.
>>97787082I support this usage of AI. Let's me play around with ideas legit way faster. I'm getting a fountain 3d printed now that I'll add a skull and rose too and fill it with black tinted resin for my Bleeding Rose herdstone.
Best place to source a suitable cart for a dogs of war style paymaster? Want something like this (but perhaps modernised a bit) as a baggage train
>>97787203... can't tell if trolling or ESL soul. Maybe american education system soul.
>>97787203yeah 4e has Downtime as well but a lot fo poeple don't like it.The fact that players lose money between adventures unless they invest i,t and even then, it still has a chance to lose it was not popular
>>97787183In my vision the unit would be far more defensive than offensive, providing armor and wounds to prophetesses, and a good anchor for some cav, while only having one armor peircing poison attack and stomp as an offensive attack. For flavor the one without the prophetess would get impetuous since it is not calmed by a maiden and only has a bunch of stinky peasants on board.
>>97787251Always liiked the idea that bretonnians had a medley of creatures they tame to ride. Bestiary shenanagans. At least for the particularly daring or rich knightly families. Think it plays into both thier knightly rider shtich and their vaguely semi-pagan dedication to the lady and her association with nature and fey creatures.>>97787222Dislexia plus its for no ones eyes but my own so no need to go back and edit unless its utterly unintelligible to even myself.>>97787250Didn't 2e have it as well? at least I had a vague memory of something like that from when I read through it.
>>97787294agreed on the idea of a bigger bretonnian bestiary, In a lot of my concepts I try to keep to a mounted theme, and instead of going for raw power I try to keep grail knights as the top teir hammer option, and Instead look for ways to support them or bake in special rules that can help smaller utility pieces act more independently without relying on raw stats.
>>97787075i swear i've seen this somewhere before
>>97785073Probably? The legs intrinsically make it out as a moving thing - which I know is a dumb thing to say, but I hope you get what I mean. Should be fine.
>>97787181I see you crying but I don't see you improving.
>>97787221Reaper is surprisingly lacking in carts and chests, but still it has a few.
another piece for my collection, what horse do you recommend for the mounted variant?
>>97787522I say he should have a tired almost malnourished looking horse, maybe find a nurgle lord on steed and remove the pustules as well as cover the zombified head with cloth
>>97787221Unironically Perry Miniatures. They have dozens of carts, wagons, etc.
>>97787221wargames foundry has some carts and pack animals and shit>>97787522just a fuckin GW horse from Ebay or something
>>97787664GW has some of the worst sculpted horses in the industry
ATTENTION ATTENTION. DARK ELVES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGE OF SIGMAR WEBSTORE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. DARK ELVES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM AOS.
>>97788087we know
>>97788087It'd be hilarious if they went the way of savage orcs instead of coming backFuck elfshitters
>>97788124Dark elves invade Ulthuan, which is kinda important for characters like Teclis, who then do shit in the Great War Against Chaos, so it's DE coming to TOW was going to happen at some point
>>97788087that artwork fucks so hard
>>97788156Yeah it always seemed like the most logical legacy army to return. Not like aos gave a shit about them (aside from the witch elves)
>>97788087Exactly a decade after the great Dark Elf army burning...
>>97788244will he unburn them?
In the fluff, who has it worse?>Khorne Chaos WarriorsGiven god forged armour, super human strength, and uber combat skills. Don't need to eat or drink. Eternal drive to kill and if they don't, they go insane.>Orc Boyz / Big unsLove to fight and filled with the urge to be violent and prone to outbursts if not fulfilled. Strong and very tough but do require food and water to live.
>>97788271>and if they don't, they go insane.that's 40k
>>97788271probably the Khornate Chaos Warrior,
>>97788271orks live in squalor, humans at least get to fuck filthy yet fit barbarian women
>>97784868+1 for Morgiana le Fay, one of the most underrated characters in WHFB/TOW. Still waiting for GW to give us than a mention of her as the teacher of Elisse Duchaard.
>>97788297are chaos warriors still human? do they fuck? slaanesh ones I could see, but would they enjoy it or is it merely an act of worship to their god hmmm
>>97788352the wargame sometimes presents them as a discreet category, but chaos fuckers cover an extremely variegated spectrum from mortal to demon
>>97788352That pic is Asavar Kul. How the fuck did he lose to Magnus the Pious in a duel to the death?
>torn between whether I would prefer to make the 6th edition Chaos army I dreamed of having as a child using the metal heroes and current warriors etc. + ebay rescues, or waiting for the rumoured range refresh
>>97788477chaos cucks are meant for jobbing
>>97788266He'll have to wait until ogres come back so he can use his stormcasts as proxies again
>>97788519I think you already know the answer
Thoughts?
>>97788266He should play with his charred half melted models in honor of Malekith
>>97788682I don't want to add an hour to my game of just shuffling infantry about.
>>97788682no, ranks should be neat
>>97788682I don't like painting base rims.
>>97788682Makes a point with uneven terrain, but otherwise it's simple more convenient to use the tray.
>>97788519You can always wait for them to reveal the WoC refresh in the next few weeks, and then decide having knowledge of both
>>97788780kopinski fucked so hard man
>>97788087I swear to god, if they package them in a Sundering box with new High Elf spearmen and archers, I will nut.
>>97788682Just play Warhammer the way it is if you insist on playing this game. If you actually wanted a good fun game youd use your models to play a different game altogether, no point in changing how Warhammer is played. Can't polish a turd and all that
>>97787207Nobody gives a fuck about the fact that you lack creativity and the minimum technical skills to represent your thoughts.
>>97788477The official story? Magnus somehow managed to beat him.The actual story? he got stabbed in the back by one of his lieutenants during the chaos caused by Magnus' army appearing.
>>97789136Why would one of his lt backstab him when his presence was the only thing keeping the army together?
>>97789601>why would dumb chaos bitches act like dumb chaos bitches
Notice how dead this general is since the AoS reveals? Just shows you the average TOWddler has always been a nuhammer AoSissy faggot and went crawling back as soon as this game appeared less relevant
>>97789623What's wrong manlet, can't reach the x to close the page?
>>97789631lmao
>>97789623You got me. Not nearly enough new brown female characters here.
>>97785073Made this edit on how it could work. Just covering up the legs.Btw thank you all for the replies.
>>97789623how do you even live with yourself?
>>97789613Because every chaos champion is a selfish dickhead more concerned with personal advancement and glory rather than any sort of wider goal beyond themselves? Every one of them doesent think "my boss is important and I need to support him", they think "if I kill my boss I could be the boss and then all the glory would be mine"
>>97789705That's exactly why Chaos champions are just inferior Orcs. Not to mention the seething vs the love of the game with the Orcs.
>>97789705So you're telling me chaos are even dumber than orcs?
>>97787522Brother?
>>97787711The new MESBG horses are pretty great desu.
>>97789700Simple, I don't buy GW™ products
>>97789724Only if you think the goals of chaos champions and the goals of chaos gods (insofar as the chaos gods have real goals) are aligned. They arent. Chaos champions are in it to get noticed by their patron/chaos at large and become an immortal demigod. They arent blowing up the world out of some ideological dislike for the world, theyre doing it because blowing up the world is how you get attention and subsequent rewards. If they have to choose between blowing up the world "as a faction" and getting personal glory? Their rational self interest is in the latter, because the average chaos warrior has very little ideological motivation "for the cause", hes there to get exposure and cred. This naturally makes chaos armies often self defeating, because the interest of the gods (ostensibly "have people conquer the world as part of the great game") and the interest of those actual people (have senpai make you a demon prince) conflict, because the chaos gods will also notice you for teamkilling, and making your way up the totem pole is often more relevant than actually "getting shit done" in the grand scheme of things.
>>97789750>poorfag bragging about being poorimpressive, now let the actual humans talk in peace
>>97789705Chaos warriors are not quite as bad as skaven, which is what you're describing. If you as a leader show weakness or start leading the men to failure, you're probably getting overthrown either through a duel challenge or a treacherous coup. If you are running a tight ship and have a string of victories backing you up, you SHOULD be fine. Sure there's a risk some overly ambitious upstart will come to the conclusion that he'll get more attention from the gods by overthrowing you. but the vast majority of members will come to the reasonable conclusion that they're better off farming glory from enemies under a competent leader.If you happen to have a tzeentchian bitch in your ranks though all bets are off though.
>>97789783Theyre not as bad as skaven, but thats mostly because theyre less neurotic. The actual dynamics at play are very similar for the most part. >If you are running a tight ship and have a string of victories backing you up, you SHOULD be fineOf course. But thats largely because if you are strong and bring in victories the self interest of your various underlings is in following you. Both because they cant defeat you and because you provide good sources of glory and favor from the dark gods. >but the vast majority of members will come to the reasonable conclusion that they're better off farming glory from enemies under a competent leader.Of course, which is where the main difference with skaven (and greenskins) lies.This isnt to say there are NO true believers in chaos, that's not true. Obviously they exist. But the worship of chaos is fundamentally rather transactional and ends oriented and the path of a chaos champion is fundamentally selfish and destructive towards others. Thats what makes everchosen so dangerous in the first place, thats their REAL power (beyond "really big chaos lord"), the ability to actually unite the various warbands under one vaguely ideological banner for a unified goal.
Thoughts on bringing the chalice of dark rain (via shaggoth) in a chaos warrior list? Seems very strong for closing the distance with gunlines.
I think malerion is a better name
>>97789963I like Malekith more but that may just be because I am used to it.
>>97789764Kek cope>I impulsively blown my meager wagie bucks on manchild toys High income activities
>>97789933275 points + being forced to take a regular dogre (for a total of, at minimum, 334 pts) is a bit steep for a single turn of locking your opponent out of cannons and halving his other missile weapons' ranges. If your opponents always bring full gunlines it might be ok, but it probably won't help that much.
>>97789764>humans
>>97785393Let's hope Ogres and VC join them too.I'm afraid lizardmen, daemons and skavens will have to wait
>>97790040VC are coming back with DE as the first two legacies to return according to rumors. Haven't heard anything about Ogres, but their rules are fine as is imo.
>>97786477>>97786133Its a cool concept but the design is total dogshit, like absolute shit. So shit its actually insulting you'd pay the bazillion dollars GW is going to charge for this. The stonework is massive, its draped organically over metal and it just looks like someones mashed a fisher price toy onto a 40k demon engine Darkfantasticmills do something similar but its all steampunk rather than this confused mess
>>97789963malerion fits better as a name aenarion would give to his son, after the first was called morelionbut malekith fits better the edgy persona of the character once encased in the armour of midnight
>>97790073That thing probably costs the same as the AoS one kek
>>97790111>he was born Malerion>changes it to Malekith in exile>Morathi keeps "accidentally" calling him by his birthname because she chose it for him>"Malerion, dear, would you see these envoys?">"Ugh! Mooom! It's Malekith now! You're embarrassing me in front of the Dark Lords!"
>>97789989Well, with my playstyle im usually in combat turn 2 or so, so it is essentially "turning off that empire army". And its not like shaggoths and dragon ogres are BAD either.
>>97790177as funny as that is, I also think morathi would be the first to suggest and stick to the new namehe's her one* dear son, but for aenarion it was the second, and malerion after morelion sounds like getting called "secundus" or something like that
>>97790264>and malerion after morelion sounds like getting called "secundus" or something like thatIncidentally, in eltharin Malerion means 'worse son'.
>>97785073yes if it can fly
>>97790333are those perry knights?
>>97786256>Likewise I could buy a floating wizard tower. That thing not in a million years however.>a flying magic tower? Yeah that's alright, it's fantasy after all :)>a WALKING magic tower? Get the fuck out of here!Strange take
>>97785390Executioners are gone too. Only sorceress and assassin remain.
>>97790659I'd better buy the heros quick then. They up-charge them to shit when they get transitioned to tow.
>>97790659>Only sorceress and assassin remain.New TOW sculpts for these two confirmed?
>>97790695Male sorcerer!?
>>97790701Makes about as much sense as openly female bretonnian knights! Who cares about silly prophecies.
Have a hint of what the next starter box will look like. Also expect that tomb king book to be announced this Monday. : )
>>97790792>Also expect that tomb king book to be announced this Monday. : )It's going to be the AL marine with the bident we already know he getting a model and next week is apparently another BL Celebration week
>>97790808well you're right in the vein that the author for the tomb king book also wrote the AL book.
>>97790825Mike Brooks?I don't think BL writers do rule books anymore as a rule of thumb
>>97790836Ignore the second part of my comment, I misread AL as AJ, so I thought you meant Arcane Journal
>>97790695I think it’s just because all the other stuff was sold out, while they still have both of the character sculpts in stock
>>97790808You talking about Negrofarius?
>>97790908Yes, the author already seid in the foreword of the book that he is getting a model
I'm done with this dude. I tried to paint a single bigger bat on the right side, but couldn't get it distinct enough due to the dark night sky, so only some small V shapes imitating a bunch of them are visible here and there. It's mid. I think some of my previous standards were way better, but they were also way simpler. Now back to beastmen and empire.
>>97790963Incredibly kino banner, not mid at all, great colors.
>>97790963anon you did a wonderful job, never put yourself down like that ever again, that morrslieb looks sick as fuckclean up that little stray hair to the left (my right) of the skull and he'll be good as gold, mang
>>97788352There's an entire story about how this dude is fighting for the custody of the child he forced upon a Bretonnian Lady, backed by his Shieldmaiden Daughters, so yeah, they are more than capable of fucking.
>>97785073It's literally designed from Warcraft tower 3d model with additional guns and legs
>>97790963Very nice job with that moon. Now please pluck that little fiber from the top-right!
>>97789682Looks cool, I wouldn't mind it either way but I'm not a super stickler for stuff anyway
>>97790963Fuck man, I wish I could paint that good
>>97788682no, I'm Autistic.
what's the closest faction to israel? as a native israeli i would like to play one that reminds me of home, it will help me pass time during this war while i hide in the shelters, too.
>>97791277Vampire counts, def. Especially Lamia. But Carstien as well.
>>97791277Dark elves
>>97791310>origianlly from the deserty semitic land>got kicked out because being weird and the local empire doesnt like your weird rituals>Become castaways around the world, oftenas small conclaves within other societies doing specialty crafts of finance (necromancy) like the empire or bretonia>many are found of regular humans like pets, other see them as mere goycattle to be used>some want to return to their ancestral lands, while others find great success in their satellite societies>They sometimes have strong local support of some local human populations (evengelicals)yep
>>97790695Makes me wonder, is there any Dark elf model that actually requires a refresh? Far as I remember they ended up in a pretty good spot. All I can of is the goddamn harpies, and those are technically shared with beastmen.
>>97791055This guy sounds dangerously based
>>97791354They are what people claim wood elves to be when they say their range looks good after their 8h edition refresh. Fucking dryads, glade guard, tree lords, horsemen all look like shit or for a different fucking setting.
>>97787075I legitimately hope that you get testicular cancer.
>>97787075Dont listen to the haters, if I wasnt lazy enough to use gpt on my phone I'd share my ideas with it more often.
>>97791494I hope you get your urethra raped by wasps.
>>97791495NTA but chill man you're scaring the hoes
>>97791533There are no hoes in your world. You are a sad, pathetic excuse of a human being and will never know the touch of any woman who isn't the whore who whelped you, or a paid medical professional.
>>97785979You weren't kidding, I was able to find a very good replica file for the hero quest chaos warrior almost immediately. Neat! I don't have access to a 3d printer, but I can probably bother someone at my LGS to let me use theirs for a small fee. I'd prefer to have the originals, but I'm willing to compromise when it comes to plastic models. Thank you, anon! I'll keep looking for the battle masters ones.
>>97791277Skaven>Live in tunnels under the cities of civilised people >Sneaky fuckers>Impressive looking artillery that isn't exactly effective>Think their degenerate god is the most important thing ever>Literally one of the primary causes of the apocalypse
>>97791629There's a bunch of other plastics on Cults3d under the title monoposers, I'm sure they'll be to your liking
>>97791494>Too lazy to share the outsourced goyslop you were far too retarded to think up on your ownI sincerely hope you don't wake up tomorrow
>>97791894I’m not making an account to generate ai images.
>>97790073It's awful, it looks like a person's first kitbash. Like they bought a piece of tower terrain and four other kits, then just glued pieces of those kits directly to the exterior of the tower. Absolutely no craft or taste whatsoever on display, but the siglets absolutely devour that Hogfort on the basis of Big Expensive Good Popular.
God damn had a fun battle, Me and a buddy teamed up to run all cavalry into some orcs. only about 2 knights and 10 orcs survived the battle. The only knights that did survive were the bretonnian battle standard and a random knights panther. almost nothing fled, everything just grounded down in combat, the grail knights and the blorcs just killed each other off until only the heroes in each respective units were left. Major orc victory, but a glorious end anyways.
>>97791957Propper table size is 44" by 60" inches
is it possible for someone to like both settings
>>97792004The trauma of seeing my favorite childhood setting nuked and replaced with space marines and "40k but fantasy" was such a fucking insult that even if i like some of sigmars models, I can't generate enough interest to even read a page of rules, i just fall into a dissociative state any time aos is brought up. I don't even think its conscious, I honestly think its just my bodies natural response to mental trauma.
>>97791966Kys you fucking bigger>>97791957Kino
>>97791957Nice fat hands, fatty.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kitbash/comments/1s2c9nz/tatters_flatters_and_batters_la_tene_wight_kings/Genuine question, if you want vampire counts why dont you just make them yourself? Personally i've always found gws intepretation of them SEVERELY lacking, I think the only way I could pleased is if the skeletons were just straight up naked and they had mixed races of undead. The only other alternative would be something like this reddit post where someone is making their own undead so thats its visually different from your stock undead.
>>97791966Most proper games aren't 2 1000 pt armies agianst a single 2000pt army.
>>97785073You don't wanna spend $200 on a single piece of scenery
From your experience, are people very autistic about movement trays? I want to print some for my round-based minis and I wonder if I should cram them with next to no space between the minis or is it fine to add 2-3mm spaces between them and additional trim to the tray itself as well.
>>97791354the bolt thrower was still in metal in 8th edition. The rest was in plastic
>>97792226It's more about the overall size of the base, if you're ranking 6 25mm base, don't make it 17 inches
>>97792234No plastic foot or horse/cold one dreadlord either and the metals/failcasts were pretty ugly imo
>>97792249According to my math, a tray that lets me rank 5 dudes on 25mm bases would be 13,5cm wide. That's reasonable, I hope. I think the biggest offender will be Crypt Horrors since I still want to base those on 50mm bases so the footprint goes from 120mm wide to 150mm.Anyway, any tips on how I should rank my ghouls? I want to build a 1000pts army and I was considering clumping all 30 ghouls into a single 6x5 unit. Should I go with two 5x3 units instead?
>>97790963Nicely done, anon! May I ask how did you do the flayed skin? Since I may use it for my unit of Menghils Manflayers
i feel personally attacked xD
>>97790581This should make sense to anyone with an IQ higher than a chimp's.
>>97792270A block of 30 ghouls at 1k points is pretty intense.Not sure what the rest of your list looks like but I feel like 1x30 is probably better than 2x15 unless you really need your ghouls to be in two places at once
>>97792400Nothing too fancy really since I want to keep it thematic. I still have to choose wizard levels and magic items.Vampire Counts [984 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Vampire Counts, Combined ArmsStrigoi Ghoul King, Level 1 Wizard, General, On foot, Battle Magic - 175Necromantic Acolyte, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], On foot, Dark Magic - 6030 Crypt Ghouls, Crypt Ghast - 2763 Vargheists, Wicked claws, Vargoyle - 1906 Crypt Horrors, Filth-encrusted claws, Crypt Haunter - 283
>>97791494>>97787103>>97787086Only reason I doodle instead of using ai is because it's too much of a pain to load up the AI.
>>97791913the shape is pretty obviously based on pic rel, though I agree it isn't a particularly well done model, more of the mechanisms should be visible if they wanted to do woodpunk style and the stone shouldn't be inexplicably hanging from nothing and instead should be held within a wooden frame.
>>97792637>inexplicably hanging from nothingit's not, it's modelled to rest on the wooden structure
>>97792691anon that is not how physics works, non mortared and weirdly thin stone blocks aren't going to stay perfectly stacked while this thing lumbers about.
>>97792731>>97792691They should have model the tower as being made of metal plates shaped to resemble a stone tower.
>>97792731>non mortaredwho says that?
>>97792782I believe they didn't go overboard with the stone texture specifically so you could reasonably paint it metallic too, although I wouldn't consider it without also adding some bolts
>>97792272Sure here you go. Start with bugman > reikland fleshshade > layer of bugman. After that I use cadian flesh, blackert brown (Scale75 it's something like softer bugman with light chestnut pigment) and harvester flesh (Scale75, however rose flesh from vallejo would also do the job). I unevenly mix three of them and stipple all over the skin. Brighter on the raised parts, less bright in the crevices. After you're happy with the effect mix carroburg crimson with medium 1:2 and stipple it all over the edges and wherever you think skin would be irritated. Follow up with druchi violet with medium in 1:3 covering only a few spots previously toned down with crimson. In the end mix Harvester flesh with kislev flesh to add a few very diluted highlights here and there. Sure it's chaotic and all about the vibes, but I can't describe it better than that.
>>97792731>>97792824Mortared stone would be even worse, imagine how much that shit would crack. Not only from the movement itself, but from the flexing of the wooden substructure.
>>97792731the thing likely has an internal 'skeleton' as well
>>97791957>>97792070In what circumstance would cavalry ever charge head first into a fully formed and ready block of infantry, and worse still, then engage in a protracted head to head melee? I love TOW but I hate how they completely failed to capture the rock/paper/scissors of infantry, cavalry, and artillery. Id love to see cavalry act like cavalry, not just faster infantry
>>97792959Fuck off manlet
>>97792691I do like the cannons, they're shockingly sensible designs for AoS
>>97792964The weird Volley gun is terrible looking
>>97792966Yeah I didn't include that one. How in the goddamn do they reload those things or keep spare blocks with cartridges? You need an ogre for that
>>97792962Keep schizoing out about the manlet. Meanwhile I have been criticizing cavalry in this game long before he ever started posting here. But of course you can't engage with my point so you start screeching about the bogeyman
Wish they gave marauders dane axes instead. Flails are so fucking goofy and off theme. Yeah I guess they're relatively simple conversions if you find a ton of axe heads but still.
>>97792985Don't the new marauders come with a ton of axe heads, so you don't have to use the flail option?
>>97792988whoa guess I'm a retard but I'll blame GW's terrible marketing. The store page was very vague.That makes the kit a lot better than I thought.
>>97792964Cities of sigmar seriously has this "small child's toy" look about it, from the weird ass faces, to the straight blocky lines everywhere to the clunky looking ahistorical armour
>>97793010That's an insult to child toys.
>>97793014The straight lines everwhere is seriously such an eyesore
>>97793014This would be fine except for the bust at the top of the War Memorial
>>97793010Be honest with yourself, does that not describe all Warhammer games?
>>97792972>How in the goddamn do they reload those things or keep spare blocks with cartridgesHow do they reload Predators' sponson heavy bolters? Warhammer always had this problem.
>>97791055Does he fuck his shieldmaiden daughters?I would
>>97792997I already didn't think highly of the new marauders, then it turns out the eventual witch elf replacements are monopose and mono build like the orc boyz kit that flopped so hard GW kept the old kit around, and the marauders ended up being best case scenario.
Can we go back to posting about warhammer fantasy in the thread dedicated to warhammer fantasy? /aosg/ is two blocks down.
>>97793040AoS is Warhammer Fantasy too
>>97793040Recommend good stls then. Otherwise we'll talk about GW frame design for their plastic kits.
>>97793031>the orc boyz kit that flopped so hard GW kept the old kit aroundTbf GW was clear since the introduction of ETB Boyz that they plan to keep both around.
>>97793040Aos is just as much warhammer fantasy as Tow is
>>97793040I like how pissed off his knee skull looks.
>>97793040Our world may be old, but their world will be the last.
>>97793040Well, there isn't much to talk about until GW shows off those new Chaos Warrior models or WFRP5e releases
>>97793040nothing to talk about till January 2027 friend
I have chaos fatigue
>>97793048>>97793057This. TOW and AoS are both the fantasy universe, but at different points in it's timeline, and they're both alternative rulesets for WHFB proper. The pretentiousness around here is ridiculous
>97793078People will reply to this bait in earnest.
>>97793083Lord knows I nearly did. Thank you anon.
>>97793077What faction would you prefer to talk about?
>>97793092Considering the recent rumors? Dark elves. Since they don't really need a refresh like other armies, I wonder if they'll just make entirely new units made from new lore, or maybe they'll just make new witch elves that are a polar opposite of the new look they just gave them in AoS?
>>97793104More than likely they’ll be a shared kit. Just like the cauldron. As for new stuff, who knows. The kraken lord isn’t active in tows current time period unless they want to retcon that to include him, but maybe a chimera lord or whatever that shitty monster mount they had was instead?
>>97793077Chaos is gay and overplayed. It was always cooler when it was good guys (empire, high aelves, dwarves) vs Orcs, Undead,and ratmen. Leaning into the chaos shot is just an attempt to attract the 40k crowd
>>97793104I would guess if Dark Elves even get a new model, it will just be a Dreadlord mounted and on foot with a Banner, which seems to be a generic character set GW wants to put in all the factions
>>97793065the new chaos warriors will look identical to the old chaos warriors, just more dynamic.so identical to the new chaos warriors (aos), for new-new chaos warriors (that take on the old-old chaos warriors) you'll have to wait for aos 5th ed.tl;dr>>97793077
>>97793127>for new-new chaos warriors (that take on the old-old chaos warriors)Like Realm of Chaos Old or 5th edition old?
>>97793024You rn
>>97793137This aesthetic is reserves for tzeentch' refresh for aos in like 3 years
What would you add to the VC roster to flesh it out a bit (concept wise)? It's okay but I feel like with so many dual kits the core concepts end up kinda same-y
>>97793146more Ian Miller inspired models in general would be nice
>>97793148Necrarch patchwork men (flesh golems)
>>97793137>Like Realm of Chaos Oldlol no5thand that is if you're lucky, otherwise is pic related but lite
>>97793148They already have a huge roster of modelsother than having an army of infamy where they can take some tomb king units and another where they can take empire units for the sylvanian levy, the inly things truly missing are vampire coast and werewolves
It's been almost six months since the last TOW announcement. did GW kill fantasy a second time?
>>97793197it will next year when they kill sigmar
>>97793197I know it's a low effort bait but there are so many people who actually think like that it's really confusing. So what? Have you painted anything lately? Finished that unit or army project? Maybe played some games? Why is that some of you here can't stand even a month without a company showing you something new to buy. Besides that, and to a degree I'm also guilty of buying models in advance for some projects, there's a whole fuckton of space to enjoy the hobby. I would ask what edition you played and liked the most before ToW. But for some reason I get a feeling that most people like you jumped into the hobby in the last few years, didn't even finish a single army, and your interpretation of it is to buy more stuff and talk shit about it without even experiencing any other aspect than playing with some randos in LGS.
>>97792691>the stone is draped like fabric over a wooden framework and looks chunky as hell but also thinI get it they are tiling the tower onto a wooden shellCeramic cogforts
Which would be cooler to kitbash as dinosaur riders, Empire or High Elves
>>97791055You got me to read the wiki. Pretty cool character, even kills a Grail Knight in a duel, albeit losing his hand but still cool. Might read the novel myself.
>>97793427If you want Dinotopia Empire, if you want Exodites High elves
>>97793427high elves can't ride dinosaurs because that's what dark elves doyou can have human conquistadors on dinosaurs though
>>97784868Second Old world rpg session. Switched systems to Barbarians of lemuria because I am a fickle bitch who wants to test different systems.1/2>Left off learning about the noble family, the Grafholts who bought the perfume that one of the scheming cowled figures had.>in downtime my noisy watchman and kister sketchy watchmen pooled their resources to buy a scent hound. Which was an absolute steal, an elven breed a noble looking giant schnauser with a beard.>Our brewgaurd companion set to work with barbarians of Lemuria's alchemy system and succeeded in making 3 lagers that help with social stealth> First attempted to sniff outside of the Grafholts estate during mid day, but there was too much activity going on and if there was any scent, it was covered over by the hustle and bustle, one of the estate guards got suspicious and told us off.>I decided to get in contact with an amicable rival of my nosy gaurdsman a priest-judge of Verena. We started off arguing on some inane legal technicality, but after that I admitted my suspicion of the Grafholts. He thought it was bad news, but had to give credit to my dedication to the truth, he told me about a hush-hush but technically public event where a marriage between a grafholdt and an elven craftsman was being planned out. At an exotic restaurant serving Lustrian delicacies.>we went to sleep and when we woke up a gaurdsmen party was suspiciously killed, someone who patrolled a similar route to us when we stumbled upon the dark conclave. Gulp.>Next day we went to that restaurant and meandered outside, taking some swigs of the special dwarven lager that made us extra inconspicuous in this more recreational district.>the others wanted to wait outside with the dog until whatever elf business was done with and we could potentially follow the scent of whichever Grafholt we were after, but me being a nosy fuck tried, and succeeded to get in.cont.
>>977934842/2>From what I could pick up with my big ears, The elven craftsman talked about the wedding very nonchalantly. Got the sense that he saw the lovesick Grafholt girl as little more than an entertaining pet who he knew would die before he lost interest with the petty lifespan of the lesser races. And besides, It allowed him to expand his powerbase beyond the local lords court. Maybe Karazan was right about Elven Stereotypes.... but fascinating insight into the elven psyche nonetheless.>When the Grafholdts started filing out, Our dog picked up that mysterious scent and we followed another couple to a brewery... The RIVAL brewery of Karazan's employer. That was when he recognized one of the figures, an old dowageress of the Grafholts who spent much of her time investing and managing the brewery>We hid our faces a bit and went into the brewery to get another drink, on My third and was getting woozy. Karazan grumbled that their beer here was amateurish and too bitter. Gotfried just liked getting more drunk.>We saw the two enter the backrooms and we followed, they went into an office room and locked the door. They started smooching and I head a young masculine voice, you guess the mistress has a young gigolo, they also start discussing about the night of the conclave and how the "two eye colored ratman dropped the ball by letting their "visitors" get away (us) and how they should bring that up next they meet.>They leave the office for the public room and we sneak in, finding a singed piece of paper in the fireplace with scratchy writing saying "1:30 at the dock-ship place". Karazan also finds a particularly fine dough starter and reasons that the brewery wouldn't mind if he took some.>We escape through a window, but are ambushed by two night runners and a gutter runner.>They manage to land a poison knife on Karazen, but we dispatch them.>Find two similar papers on the ratmen. We plan to bring to the watch captain and set up a sting operation.
>>97793197They literally released a multi kit all new box like what? A month ago?
>>97793464>can't It's your hobby, you can do whatever the hell you want if you think it's cool
>>97793544wonder when they come out in separate boxes
>>97793188>They already have a huge roster of modelsMost of which tend to be rather samey - oh it's bats, bigger bats, big bat monster mount, smaller bat monster, etc.I would personally add gargoyles and mobile bloodwood trees
>>97793148I think VC has a really solid roster. The only thing I can think to add is a non-swarm unit of ghosts or two.
>>97793593>gargoylesreskinned vargheists>bloodwood treesthey already have some monstrous profiles, you grab a treeman and make do with those
A long time ago there was converted empire army in an empire vs VC battle report in white dwarf as part of a campaign - I believe it may have been the Sigmar's Blood campaign.Anyone know the white dwarf issue?There were, I believe some empire swordsmen with masked heads on them
>>97787075Okay, Since you guys loved the last concept so much, i came up with a new bretonnian peasant hero idea Peasant Shepherdess She's not a witch, though she sure looks like one, the peasants assure you she isn't a witch, because look its not a pointy hat, its just a hood, and its not a broom, just a crook, so don't worry about it. Can't take a mount, Only option is to take a small but ferocious dog (counts as extra hand weapon) a level 1, can't get level 2, she doesn't know any lores as she cannot read, just has access to the shepherds cult lore that has 2 signatures, A hex, and an enchantment and a conveyance, and cannot add their wizard level to dispel attempts. The hex, Hounds Howl, 24" last until start of the shepherdess next command phase, target enemy mounted unit must make a fear test if it declares a charge 9+, or a terror test if cast on a 11+The enchantment, Away to me, 12" range Target Allied mounted unit gains drill until end of turn 10+The conveyance, That'll do, 24" range Target allied mounted unit not in combat can immediately reform, may move directly towards the caster up to its max movement, and then reform again. 9+, on a 12+ the unit can march but still has to move directly towards the caster. These aren't well thought out spells, just off the cuff concepts of the sort of spells and flavor i think she'd bring.She has all the other peasant rules, knights will not care if she dies, and would probably prefer it. And this harkens back to the old lore about how dangerous shepherding could be in Carcasonne and Brionne.
>>97793661that's just a WFRP career
>>97793688Where on this career does it say she knows several shepherding cantrips. Also what do you think i was referencing with "Small but ferocious dog"
>>97793706>i was referencing with "Small but ferocious dog"The Ratcatcher career?
>>97792637>the shape is pretty obviously based on pic rel,Says who?
>>97793712yes
>>97792972It's like a salt shaker, you just cram it full of gunpowder and lead balls then hope most of it comes out when ignited
>>97793427The ones that ride dinosaurs are lizardmen, dark elves, and chaos warriors.
>still no Temple of Spite in the wfrp megaDE really are that cringe I guess
>>97793824It was in the thread anon.
>>97793767I get that they pull out the whole block where all the shot and powder goes but I don't see how that would practically work considering how ungodly heavy it would be and none of the models using them have any room for all the gear they'd need to reload it.
>>97793544That wasn't an announcement. That was a release.
>>97792972>How in the goddamn do they reload those thingsOne barrel at a time, presumably. This would realistically take for fucking ever, but thats also true of the hellblaster or any other "multi barrel" mechanism of the kind.
>>97793022Why do you hate RuneScape, anon?
>>97793895I just didn't enjoy the grinding in that game
>>97784868Is that painting a joke about the fact that GW women all have man-face?
>>97793772Never heard of /yourdudes/, newfag ?
>>97793911A Bretonnian rose she is
>>97793895This is an insult to RuneScape
>>97793197Yes, because the leaks say AoS steals Cathy models.All of tow was just warehouse clraring and AoS
if you are just gonna use it as terrain/background stuff then you may as well get this as well
>>97794209This could have looked decent if they didn't decide to do the toy topper on top. What were they thinking?
>>97794120That's not what it says at all, also are you retarded what's with all the spelling mistakes?
Warriors of Chaos will be announced either this week or next week on Monday according to rumor mongers.
>>97794251Wow I don’t care for more marines.
>>97794253Yet you cared enough to respond, curious.
>>97794251If its the spaniard then apply salt.
>>97794251next week then
does anyone know what the hell this bit from the bretonnian men-at-arms sprue is meant to be? looks like an ear of wheat with a club for mashing it into meal but i'm not sure
>>97793113>He doesn't know Chaos has been part of whfb before 40k was even a thing >He doesn't know Skaven were originally concieved as chaos ratmen>He doesn't know that most of the og GW team were chaosfagsYou're either a newfag or a tourist; either way, you're subhuman.
>>97794352looks like a small mace hand weapon, with a sprig of wheat or grass or some other peasant trash, could paint it as a feather too, a lot of the other peasant items are dead animals.
>>97794352I thought it was like a fox tail as a lucky charm but idk
>>97793113Theres a reason it was a chaos warrior on the front cover of the first edition of warhammer.
>>97793256Most people here are vicarious consoomers who don't buy, paint or play shit and think shitposting is engaging with the hobby
Does anyone have that games played chart for Albion?
>>97794406that's not exactly correct, they do play the total war game
>>97793593>It's all bats >I would personally add some batsIntredasting
>>97794406i've never played a tabletop wargame but i have at least a thousand dollars of 40k and TOW kits and way too many paints
>>97794438I can see why anons dont post here as much.
>>97794406>>97794438This kind of samefagging is very cringe
>>97794450my only other post in this thread is >>97794352
>>97794352a small mace that meant to go on the belt when you give the men-at-arms halberds, since it comes with all the other belt-based items
>>97794418It would be more accurate to say they shitpost on the /twg/, because they don't play that either
>>97794459i know where it goesi'm trying to figure out how to paint the thing that isn't a club/macei think i'm going to paint it like wheat even though it seems a little odd to me to carry unprocessed wheat into battle
>>97794467fair enough
>>97794450It truly is, faggot
>>97794251Why wouldn't they have announced them at Adepticon?
>>97794478Not enough time on the docket. They didn’t announce the marauders during a show either
>>97794234I'm runk on Saturday night because i bave friends, but jsut happen to move betewem places. I guess you don't have much experienace with parties
>>97794484Nothing says you're a sad, friendless faggot like what you've just posted
>>97794469wheat would make sense, might be an offering/trinket to Rhya or something
>>97794406The number of beastfag players that post here so often beg to differ
>>97794366And now all of the OG gw team grew up and play almost exclusively historicals. Your point?
>>97794482>Time enough to show random Inquisitor and Sister of Battle, Underworlds Warband, Riders of Rohan, an aeroplane animation, and Mephiston statue>No time to show off an update to WoC
>>97794518That Warhammer was never about "good guys Vs bad guys" with chaos relegated to the background. Chaos wankery is a core element of the setting explicitly because people like Andy Chambers pushed hard to make it that way
>>97794379No it wasn't. The original cover was a generic warrior character smashing a skeleton with his warhammer, described in the actual book as being a captain of the Empire. Harry the Hammer was retconned to be a chaos warrior much much later on. Fake grog
>>97794587Andy Chambers is midhammer era, not a gw OG. Fake grog
>>97794595>The original cover was a generic warrior character smashing a skeleton with his warhammer, described in the actual book as being a captain of the Empire. Harry the Hammer was retconned to be a chaos warrior much much later on.Wrong.
>>97794609It's right there inside the 1e book, which you have never opened.
>>97794612It's not.
>>97794619Shoo shoo manlet
>>97794622Are you a bot?
>>97794595>Captain of the empireIt's always been a chaos warrior, hence it's appearance in two different chaos warrior model lines before the short lived limited edition model from the 00s
Ok, am I crazy or is there a mini version of this art? I could swear I saw it somewhere, is it an old GW wizard mini that's out of print?
>>97794609>>97794619Fake grogs, nta but the other guy is right. It was retconned to be chaos later down the line
>>97794650fuck
>>97794652No, that's simply incorrect.
>>97794607Good catch there.Still, that doesn't invalidate my point, after all, Bryan Ansell was the original chaosfag
>>97794652No. That model was originally sold as Uthmog Elvenbane as a Warrior of Chaos.
>>97794674What model? We are talking about the cover art
>>97794681>>977946819
>>97794609>described in the actual book as being a captain of the Empire.I don't think there even was an Empire in first edition.
>>97794650>>97794654Could you be thinking of this guy?
>>97794652>>97794681http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/ss1bwarriorschaos/index.htmFor reference.These were the second release of chaos warriors back in 1e. The only recon was his name, but he was always a chaos warrior.
>>97794681Remind you of anyone?
>>97794674Yeah, after the retcon. Chaos literally didn't exist in the original 1e.
>>97794697I can see the similarity but I could've sworn the mini I saw had the sword on the back just like in the art. Maybe it was printed from a STL based on the art, or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me.
>>97794704Maybe you're thinking of 40k?
>>97794704Clearly it didn't.All that stuff about chaotic creatures in the rulebook, the rules for chaos warbands in the compendium and forces of fantasy must surely be a collective hallucination
>>97794717Kek you're really exposing yourself here. Those are literally just generic bad guys, and GW would later use that aesthetic when they were making Chaos. Tbe 1e rulebook is literally available in the OP, there is nothing stopping you from going and reading it. There is zero mentions of chaos in the entire book, and GW wouldn't flesh out Chaos as a concept until 1988.
>>97794730>Those are literally just generic bad guysThe guy literally has the eight pointed star on him. A symbol representing Chaos that precedes GW as a whole.
>>97794737why are you replying to bad bait? he's not going to stop until he stops getting (You)s
>>97794737Are you trying to ragebait or are you actually retarded kek
>>97794745Neither. What's wrong with what I said?
>>97794595It was, thats a chaos warrior (because "thats" what chaos warriors used to look like).>>97794694There was something which would later become the empire, but the empire as a generally recognizable entity as we would know it only came about in 3e (and even then specifically WHFRP 1e). >>97794704Anon what the fuck are you talking about. Chaos was MORE present in early warhammer than in later editions, because back then everyone from the dark elves to greenskins to undead was also "chaos" (because back in the day it was basically the end all be all evil force, and only as the cosmology and setting developed did it end up as a single player among many (if still the biggest one).
>>97794774i didn't know lizardmen were around that earlyor night goblins, for that matter
>>97794774Forces of Fantasy was released a year after the 1st edition of Warhammer was released. That's not the same book.
>>97794782Chaos appears in the very first book too.
>>97794798Chaotic attributes =/= Chaos
>>97794798bro you are being trolled and it's not even good trollingnext he is going to say that the fact it doesn't elaborate on what "chaotic attributes" are in this book means chaos wasn't a thing yet
>>97794782>That's not the same book.Correct, the 1st rulebook did not really have rules for any "faction" or lore. It was a rulebook designed to facilitate the mechanics of gameplay between models. I did find you there though.
>>97794798Having a "chaotic" nature isn't the same thing as Chaos™>>97794774Your screenshot is not from the original 1e rulebook. This whole argument started because one guy did the 1e rulebook cover was a chaos warrior. Chaos didn't exist when the 1e cover rulebook was painted.
>>97794804>>97794822Chaotic attributes actually do specifically refer to Chaos.>>97794805I don't really care, I enjoy posting some old stuff.
>>97794805Anon, do you realize that "chaos" is a real word in the English language and has an actual meaning unrelated to the Warhammer faction called "Chaos"
It's elite ball knowledge but a lot of you are either fake grogs or so old you misremember. That was not a Chaos warrior on the front of the first edition cover.
>>97794831yeah, it's a word that was used by michael moorcock in a particularly metaphysical way, in books that were very influential and shamelessly copied by early warhammer writers before they eventually hammered things out into something more originalbut you already know all this and are just farming (You)s
>>97794830Kek either you're dumb or just a liar. Your little screencap comes from the second printing of the 1e rulebook after Chaos was already added to the compendium, and this paragraph is specifically mentioned in the section that Rick priestly says is NOT covered in the rulebook and it's just ideas he's spitballing
>>97794830>>97794850Anon BTFO with receipts.
LMAO at all the nuhammer fake grogs furiously skimming the first edition rulebook right now to try and pretend they didn't come to this general from Total War or AoS/40k
>>97794850>Your little screencap comes from the second printing of the 1e rulebook after Chaos was already added to the compendiumNo, it's simply they knew what would be in the compendium at the time of writing, since they were developed in parallel.>this paragraph is specifically mentioned in the section that Rick priestly says is NOT covered in the rulebook and it's just ideas he's spitballingOkay, but what does that prove?
>>97794865NTA but you got BTFO and you're still going. Embarrassing dude.
>>97794876Do you actually feel embarrassment when posting here? Do you have brain damage?
>>97794865>he's still typing Give it a rest manlet. It's it your bedtime?
Interesting that on the back of Grudge Bearer that just released today they are advertising Riders of the Dead. Kislev soon?
>>97794822>One guyThat's John Blanche for you, and he was doing "chaos" artwork before Warhammer was even a thing, as he illustrated for fighting fantasy books and RPG magazines, which also included the idea of chaos which was token wholesale from D&D in the first place.
Is Sovl actually a port or derivative of any WHF edition or is it its own ruleset?
>>97794909I wish but it's just because Riders of the Dead won readers choice 2024 in a BL awards so they reprinted it. Kislev will come but not this edition.
>>97794940own ruleset but it will be very familiar to anyone who has played any edition of fantasy 6e onwards.
>>97794944do you reckon it's worth it? I need something to play on my laptop while travelling
>>97794965I really enjoyed it. This is not counting play time on my phone too. I play it from time to time but when I tried it I nolifed it for almost a week.
>>97794974thanks, I'll give it a try!
Is it true that the big flagship GW store in Nottingham has copies of the two Realm of Chaos books from 1988 and 1990 for sale?
>>97795006Yes, for whatever reason the big store in Tokyo also has them for sale. They have very limited printings of a lot of old books in some of their bigger locations that aren't advertised.
>>97795006They're recent reprints, but yes.
>>97793432The Calard du Garamont stories aren't high art, but I did find them very cozy, and pretty fun reads. Good for a lazy afternoon, or a nice drive.
>>97795006They also sell White Box WFB1e reprints as well
>>97795012Neat! I'll have to plan a trip to England soon, then. Thank you, as well as the other anons who replied.
>>97794965>video games while traveling Just read a book you manchild
>>97795193I am blind you pig
>>97795193Still can’t reach that x to close the page? Want me to look for a stool for you?
>>97795193this anon has never played FTL on a plane, pity him for he has not and will never know true bliss!
>>97794352The mace is a weapon and the thing is a charm or herb.The amount of grains you'd get from that much wheat wouldn't fill a teaspoon, so it's not that.
>>97795432I play senran kagura.
Doing a nurgle WoC army and I'm looking for inspiration for what people have done to nurgle up their armies, especially their warriors and knights, I've done some but I need more inspiration.
>>97795065>cleanses mousillonlooks like theyre fighting chaos? mousillon was full of undead wasnt it? is it just repurposed art lol.on topic of books, i enjoyed the G&F omnibus a lot even if the writing isnt amazing. i tried reading drachenfels, but its so old it doesnt really resemble the warhammer i know. i had to stop when they introduced the 3000 year old vampire that looks and sounds like a 12 years old girl.
>>97796552>i enjoyed the G&F omnibus a lot even if the writing isnt amazinBased. I really like Trollslayer and Skavenslayer was a lot of fun. Still have to read Daemonslayer
>>97796360>the average hobbyist is so devoid of imagination they have to ask 4chan how to make their piss and shit models look more like piss and shit.Just piss and shit on them anon it's that shrimple
Getting a lil bit o' paint on the UngorsWhat are you fellas working on?
>>97796999painting a knight. nowhere near done,
>>97797031Love a good knight.What's the final scheme, purple and white?
>>97797112Grey and dark grey, with a splash of purple, kind of a subdued knight, but i have a bunch of other louder painted knights so it'll balance out and provide contrast.
>>97794942>it's just because Riders of the Dead won readers choice 2024 in a BL awards so they reprinted it.Wouldn't the in-book ad be for the Thanqual book then, which won last year, rather than Riders of the Dead, which won two years ago?
>>97796186>The amount of grains you'd get from that much wheat wouldn't fill a teaspoon, so it's not that.I think it's there just to symbolise their status as peasants. Wouldn't look for practicality or realism in Warhammer models
>>97796186In other words it would feed a Bretonnian household for a week.
>>97796999Well Anon, as it turns out I'm also getting a lil bit o' paint on the Ungors
>>97798079Best beastmen itt and that's saying something because you people are like 75% of our modelposters for some reason.
>>97796552>i had to stop when they introduced the 3000 year old vampire that looks and sounds like a 12 years old girl.Behold: OG warhammer lore
>>97796552Mousillon has undead and chaos, its just an overall fucked region full of vaguely cursed shit. Half the peasantry are mutated.
>>97798246wtf I love Nagash now
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>>97793616>reskinned vargheistsNot really - vargheists are just wild and devolved vampiresgargoyles would specifically have a variety of different shapes and sizes (like real medieval grotesques) ranging from winged devils to chimeras etc. and be a a tough (they are made of stone) flying infantry unit not a monstrous one and potentially have rules about starting the game as part of a terrain piece before breaking free of it to surprise attack the enemy.
