Number of the Beast EditionPrevious Thread: >>97782044>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: You can bring back one mechanic that hasn't been seen in 3+ years, and make it the primary mechanic of a new set. What do you choose?
>opponent has burnt offering in their mono black deck
>>97791929no see since the old one doesn't have the color symbols that means I can use it!
>>97791919TQ: It's going to be mutate anon. We all gonna fucking learn and I'm going to get new toys for my wacky-creature-maker deck.
most one sided ways to stop green land ramp and make green troons seethe? my main colors are red blue black so opposition agent and confounding conundrum seem like good picks. I still need to be able to play tutors and copy lands or solemn simulacrum, etc in Bracket 4also best way to do this in bracket 3 with white and black, I guess using one of my "game changer" slots to stop the ramp with Opposition Agent but honestly the green ramp searching for lands the first 5 turns needs to be put into check. white I've got land tax, really its more of a thing for the blue black red decksprobably just need to be running acid rain but half the green decks arent running enough forests, possiblyalso, for all the MTGO players- any one noticing an insane increase in the meta being Michael Angelo commanders and adding like so many counters they're a 52/52? In a lower bracket game I played the dude got up to 117/117 after being removed twice. one earlier today it was like 52/52 and I just didnt have the removal in hand but theres some crazy stuff going on. and they all have trample just need to run more destroy target nonblack creature or darkness (black fog) or just general board wipes but its like DAMN shit is getting out of hand. was considering slotting in Natures Ruin for this but its so wasteful but I swear I've lost 3 different games in the last 2 days to some 56/56 green ninja turtle who gets removed every other turn to come back and be 75/75 with trample and haste
>>97791919>TQThese things.
>>97791919>TQBanding because I hate everyone.
>>97792017based
Teysa looks like a high class hooker
ForetellIf that's too recent, Suspend
>really like two avatar characters >they're both made into garbage uncommons while we get 3+ versions of each member of team avatar and team azula>most of whom have colors at odds with their behaviourThanks wotcWhich of these should I make a deck around?
>>97792060based and literally who pilled
>>97792060I think Long Feng has infinite combo with Basking Broodscale
>>97792060I know this kind of pain
I've been on blue farm for a while but miss having green. Does going to tymna thrasios tree farm make more sense than just jumping to nbc/chowder sisay or terra? TnT would likely be a tree farm or semi blue variant.
>>97792011It is a special feeling when you send something like an Ulamog to the cuck-wheel.
>TQSuspend. I love casting from exile as a mechanic and you can make a mix of cards that reward casting from exile, reprint Nalfreeknees, Mox Tantalite, Lotus Bloom, Sol Talisman, and do more fun bullshit.
Is it possible to play cEDH without blue?
>>97792107Suspend has been revisited in the past few years.
>>97792096necro is too goodbreach thoracle is too goodrograkh is too good
>>97792116What set had suspend as a primary mechanic?
>>97792117Breach loops is the biggest loss going with tnt but I'm not too keen on an all in turbo plan like rogsi
>>97792109yes
>>97792109Ob nixilis is incredibly fun and can do well. Dihada has a decent list as well and is fringe
>>97792122imo if you really want play to green's strengths why not rog/thras?
>>97792109already do
>>97792116has it? I genuinely don't remember one recently that cared about it. Last time I saw new cards for it (that i remember) was like... Battle for Baldur's Gate? Faldorn is one of the big reasons I like the mechanic.
>>97792109*pays 28 life to end the game*
>>97792163erm sorry chuddy, edhrec says that Sephiroth is the better monoblack commander now
so no one else is seeing like constant 53/53 Michael Angelo decks?
>>97791919>TQ: You can bring back one mechanic that hasn't been seen in 3+ years, and make it the primary mechanic of a new set. What do you choose?Forgotten Realms was 5 years ago, yeah? Let's expand Party, I like it.
>>97792165More popular and definitely more fun, but more competitive? Nah
>>97792165sephiroth is from a better ip, krrik didn't stand a chance
>>97792120Doctor Who has an entire commander deck around it and literally introduced a new suspend focused keyword.
>>97792165what do chuds have to do with this?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
After shuffling, mulliganing, and then losing to Thoracle on turn three I have several questions:1. Knowing this is going to happen again, do I just mulligan to three freeish counterspells in hand? Flusterstorm was in the equation from the thoracle player.2.Assuming Thoracle were to catch a ban (unlikely) what would be this terrifying "next best thing" everyone says is inevitable and just as bad?3. Do I just say fuck it and continue the game without the guy next time he makes us shuffle and play while he tutors for this shit?
Sometimes I think I still am in love with Thalia. I want to text my ex gf every day since she dumped me 3 months ago and I cant find a non pathetic way to do so, now that I have a new gf it's like I am not doing it out of desperation at least, but still feels pathetic. But I'm not really in love with my ex, I just miss her. Thalia I loved. Thalia I loved so much I would feel like I was going to have a panic attack in my car in my lunch break at work, from the somber weight of knowing that I would never be with her. It wasn't just sorrow, it was a pain in my chest, it was grief, grief for something I never had in the first place, never even had the right to wish for or long for. My life is worthless compared to hers. She is so good and righteous and pure that the only proper thing I could do would be to ask the gods to give my years of life to her, if such a thing wee possible. I would happily die for Thalia still, expecting nothing in return but the knowledge that my life prolonged hers, for a precious few seconds before my existence ended. I really wish I could love her and take care of her, but I am ugly, weak, virtueless, and stupid. Thalia is pure and beautiful and cunning and brave. I've been working out so I can get into HEMA and be even slightly worthy of Thalia. My ex was going to maybe do it with me but then she dumped me and I drifted away from it. I don't know why I even bother. I should just kill myself anyway but I don't have the balls.
>>97792186The best play is to not play against thoracle combo decks, so you don't have to shuffle up every 15 minutes.
>>97792194I wouldn't normally, but it's the only playgroup I've got and he always brings it out to prove a point. Either after losing or if someone is on a hot streak. I don't see the point of it really aside from making four other people shuffle up enough and see if they draw enough interaction and not do anything for four turns.
>>97792186How about you talk to him like a human being and tell him his bracket 1 thoracle shenanigans are not what your table enjoys?
>>97792186The best play is to play thoracle combo yourself as cedh is dominated by it, represented by rog/si and tymna/kraum
>>97792205I'd rather not engage it and ban a deck (hard to say you can't play after he dropped thousands on it). Just a minor annoyance but I can't imagine how this can be fun for anyone on a long timescale. Maybe in a direct Cedh environment where everyone is running it and/or built to take care of it but "standard" or even "strong" bracket 4 decks? Just seems like that combo is the root of most of the problems, but I'm not versed enough in the space, hence my question on what the "next best" thing would be. Can't see it being as close to this.
>>97792214>hard to say you can't play after he dropped thousands on itSuch is life as a tcg player though. You buy expensive cards to win just to get them banned. You could also pack some stifle effects maybe. Might still be worth it outside of thoracle depending on your meta. Actually, now I'd love to see stifle storm as a card.
>>97792214if that guy is a netdecker with the disposable income to buy real cards to boot then you have no chance, either play cedh with him or ask him to power downand if he refuses to then you know he's just a pubstomper, an actual cedh player would rather practice solitaire than beat up on weaker decks
>>97792107Leave this place and never return, tripfag.
>>97792085correct
>>97792060at least your character got a card...>>97792086she cute
>>97792284I want to say FF8 got done so dirty, but honestly the FF set was such low powered shit.
>>97792292wotc wants all the bracket 2 low power stuff to go to UB (with collector reskins of high power cards) because they're going to sell anyway while all the new strong cards goes to UW because that's all they have
>>97792214You can tell him he can't play his deck, or a consistent T3 win tells the rest of the table that none of them get to play their deck. Your friend is being a dick and gets an ego boost out of winning a casual game against friends playing at a different power level of deck. That's pathetic.
>>97792311Nah I think it was just how long FF was in the planning stages. Avatar is full of absolutely disgusting cards and many of them are cheap. Lessons is ridiculous, Gran-Gran is absolutely cracked and doesn't require that high a price point, the less said about Badgermole Cub and Wan Shi Tong the better. Commander specifically also has Katara, Waterbending Master. ECL doesn't really have that many bombs. It had some GOOD cards, but nothing that's warping any 60 card formats or breaking into cEDH.
>>97792030Why hooker, why not domme? I need commander girl that looks like she could own me, and findommed me to buy more bling for her deck.
>>97791919Infect, because it speeds up commander games and even entices attacking where blockers would normally dissuade it>>97792060Hama looks really fun to brew around but she's damn expensiveYesterday sat down to play B3 with randos and one dude was just playing straight up stax, it was really funny
Is he right bros?
so no one in here actually is playing games. got it
>>97792499always, he's a professor after all.
>>97791919>TQ: You can bring back one mechanic that hasn't been seen in 3+ years, and make it the primary mechanic of a new set. What do you choose?Banding>>97792017It's really not very complicated.
>>97792506I am which is why I rarely post in here. No interesting discussions and whenever I try to start one the faggots rather shitpost another entire day about universes beyond.
Post decks
>>97792499>It's a "Prof being negative" episodeThis repeat gets old
>>97792499'The Professor' is a retarded cuck but he isn't wrong here
>>97792499The way people spend time and energy complaining about UB is crazy. Either continue to play the game or find something else if it really is that much of a turn off for you, everything else is manchild behavior.Talking about the fact that these videos get so many views, by the way, dude himself is clearly just making an easy bag
>>97792532Views = Moneyas such parroting what the general community thinks is easy views and money.
>>97792566... is this official art? And did they make also Ivy, Taki or Tira?
New edh player here.Wouldn't it be more intuitive and self-balancing if the bracket numbers were also the limit of how many game changers you were allowed to play?It feels like the differences between brackets is too arbitrary with the exception of 3
>>97792527
>>97792584This sounds a bit convoluted to be honest, I think the bracket system as is today is decently robust and simple enough to be effective.Adding increasingly complex criteria makes the system harder to follow and keep track of, and hence less appealing as a generalised criteria. At the end of the day a budget deck with no game changers can be much stronger than a B3, even some B4s depending on deckbuilding and strategy choices if people are just angling for their deck to 'technically' be B2, etc. As long as everyone in your playgroup is on the same page, that's good enough.
>>97792584>number of GCs allowed>your Xth turn where you're allowed to combo offBrackets 2, 3, and 5 (the brackets that are the most practical to play with randoms and the ones you only need to think about) are ultimately reducible to these 2 things, with 1 and 4 requiring a lot more good faith and are more like containment brackets than anything else
>>97792060>>97792086I will never forgive them for what they did to my gf. And the fucking audacity to re-release her as a special treatment chocobo track card too.
>>97792644>my gfthat's a jpg
>>97792646Retard it's called a jrpg
So why did Nahiri summon Emrakul to Innistrad? I stopped playing MG after Gatewatch and only recently getting back into it
>>97792661Unironically it was "Nahiri was here, Sorin's a loser."
>>97792663My understanding of Sorin is>Planeswalker vampire that has a cozy home that vampires are thriving in>Can't be fucked stopping all the other threats like werewolves and monsters so created a goth angel daughter to do it for him>She and all the other angels that are meant to protect people, got corrupted by Emrakul and he had to unmake her Seems like a good intentioned if a but lazy guy which becomes a tragedy as he fixes his mistake. Nahiri just seems like some evil dickhead for causing it all to begin with
>>97792672Nahiri is a woman of color, so she never gets punished for behaving poorly like that.
>>97792661Sorin was kind of involved in the Eldrazi getting unleashed on her home plane of Zendikar and she blames him for not fixing the mess when they had a pact of some kind so she's vindictively giving him an Eldrazi invasion on his home plane as payback
Do people here watch EDH gameplay on YT?Wondering what channels people recommend with good editing, e.g. 15 minute videos, bonus points if they don't stop to read what each card does like fucking idiots
>>97792675Nahiri is white. Which is why she got away with it
Why is Nahiri the best MtG girl?
>>97792771BPD
>>97792341I don't see the difference between findom and whoring.
>>97792580It's not official. I did make an Ivy, though.
>>97792661as a fuck you to Sorin.as a matter of fact her current status is massive hate boner against planeswalkers with the goal of eradicating them all from existence. why? because they are the root of all evil and the multiverse would be a better place without them (which is true)
>>97792750Basically the most accurately written woman in mtg
Nahiri did nothing wrong
>>97792771She reminds me of Asuka from Eva, if everything went wrong but she had the power to be a vindictive bitch.That's kind of hot, and I can fix her.
>>97792751Play to Win if you can stomach the he/hims
>>97792574I actually like UB, but not because of the cards. UB brings in new shitters who try to play with the UB cards since they like the series. Meanwhile I just whip out the Eldrazi and bonk them with the spaghetti monsters.
>>97792030Please don't bully my wifeI had a lot of fun with her last night with drivnod, syr Konrad and gravpact out.Even without a sac outlet, nobody wanted to attack me and risk me blocking with tokens and wiping the board.
>>97792891what is causing the heart pattern effect?
>>97792897Holographic inner sleeve I got from aliexpress
>>97792890>UlalekIf your eldrazi commander doesn't say annihilator on it are you really playing eldrazi?
>>97792913Only Ulalek and Zhulodok exist. I guess Azlask can do... something if you're into the tiny ankle biter token spam Eldrazi.
>>97792890What the actual fuck is that. Kozilek and Ulamog got frozen/killed by Gatewatch and now they're free and a fused being?? Or is this some non-canon alternate world thing?
>>97792922Ulalek is a "what if" Eldrazi that happens if Ulamog and Kozilek spawned on the same spot.
>>97792920Zhulodok is more respectable because he at least commits you to colorless as eldrazi should but he is still a commander for small children and the mentally feeble. Go big or go home.
>>97792931That's a cool idea, and what is Zhulodok?
>>97792520So are you noticing a mass prevalence of counter decks? I mean +1/1 counters and generating native amounts of them repeatedly? It’s with ninja turtles stuff
>>97792942Zhulodok is one of Ulamog's sires who rose to infamy, largely due to introducing Vampirism to Zendikar. He got bonked canonically though and no longer exists.
>>97792661she's a woman and was big mad over eldrazi eating her plane that she had to make it happen somewhere as well.you know, because that will fix the problem to begin with, another retarded aspect is Sorin, being thousands of years old and one of the most experienced PW kust cant seem to put that bitch down, because and you didn't guessed it you low T "male", she has a vagina.>tldrmenstruation
>>97792934>put one of the big boys in the command zone>ok you got a big boy>put Zhulodok in the command zone>cast a big boy>get THREE big boys for the price of one
>>97792499If he had any balls he’d quit the hobby. But he won’t, because he made himself completely financially dependent on discussing cardboard.
>>97792965On the other hand, its a great way to go full circle and have a bunch of Bloodborne references since Innistrad help inspire Bloodborne to being with. >Flora, of the moon, of the dream
Friendly reminder that if your deck is filled with "staples" you're a huge faggot that just cannot stop sucking cocks.
>>97793094I eat man booty and I don't fill it with staples
>>97793094Anon you are supposed to put cards in your deck, not staples.
>>97792499Everyone says it is unsustainable but they have no proofMagic is at its absolute peak of player numbers and that seems to only be increasing
Kinda tired of literally every ~viable~ commander being some 2-4 mana (5 mana if you're feeling epic) "do the thing; draw a card" slop. I wanna make this dipshit. 7 mana retard just as Sheldon intended. It's going to just be ramp and beaters.
>>97793107it's just engagement bait anon
>>97793107this. my lgs prereleases have been jam packed full of air
>>977926265 is almost impossible to play with Randoms. A cedh deck not built for the Meta it's going into is a bracket 4
>>97792891>I had a lot of fun with her last nightso did I
>>97793193Yeah i set myself up for that one didnt I
>>97793180Not him, but 4 is just kinda weird.>3 = 3GC limit, no Thoracle cancer>5 = Thoracle and meta>4 = ???
This kills my playgroup.Any other hatebear lovers in here? What's your favorite?
>>97793339I like Ethersworn Canonist and Lodestone Golem because they do not affect me.
>>97793339I have had people get legitimately angry over this bug hitting the field in my insect deck.
>>97792891As commander or in the 99? I imagine the former. Does she tend to get removed a lot in your experience?I find her to be pretty kill-on-sight, which is a shame because she's super fun.
>>97793391Which commander isn't KOS at this point?
I struggle to explain how this player acted ; so it’s going to be a blogpost.>acts oddly aggressive and quiet>understands 80% of any given rule>tells us he’s going to board wipe and going to fuck shit up>begs me to give him card draw with loran, despite master of ceremonies giving him shit>explains thats hes just going to use it to his advantage then get rid of it>acts like hes winning when he casts all modes farewell>tries to use the treasures from offer you cant refuse to counter off you cant refuse>swings at the player who countered his farewell>the counter player decides to just cast some random creature>the problem player goes ‘yeah I dont think so’ and counters it>as 3 of us all die at once to combo, he whines and scoops that he was being targeted and we are racist
Does anyone have any really good custom card designs?My LGS is hosting another custom magic card competition and a YGO player keeps winning them. It's really frustrating seeing someone that doesn't even play the game keep winning.
>>97793409With how many legends are printed? I'd wager there are more innocuous ones printed than the other way around.
>>97793391As commander, yeah.She does get removed but I usually have something to sac her to first in case she gets exiled so I still get some use out of the death trigger like forcing some sacrifices. It puts them off doing it and putting themselves into a worse position.
>>97793339this guy right here is sleeper. reanimated him at flash speed and instantly killed a scapeshift hearthull player
We need a card that just says "abilities don't trigger"
>>97793460>Avatar of FreedomRWUCreature - Avatar Angel3/3FlyingIf a source an opponent controls would restrict you or a permanent you control from taking a game action, incur a cost you would pay or increase a cost, make you sacrifice a permanent, stop permanents you control form untapping during your untap step, or control your turn, you may ignore that effect or ability.
>>97793339Maybe just stop dropping soul warden turn 1
>>97793567No, it needs to be a hatebar. Goblin Middle Management1RCreature - goblin advisor2/2All triggered abilities have "and you take 2 damage.">“Each new policy improved morale by removing anyone who complained.”
>>97793460YGOchad always win against mtgSISSIES.
>>97793460YGO players have to actually evaluate cards and think about how they interact with other cards, so it makes sense they're better at card design than Commander players.
>>97793553Either you were cheating or he was a retard.
>>97793759I dunno man, so many people miss the "up to" clause on cads I can believe a hearthull fotm tryhard would still just get 10 lands and just nuke themselves
>>97793759>you were cheating!! no, he just didn't think about earthbend triggers
>>97793553putting infect on this lil nigga
>>97793463I don't think people play the extremely weak commanders in the first place.
>build one of my signature jank decks>creature deck that cares about finding one of 4 pieces to buff them>but also another one out of 4 pieces for a payoff>no tutors, no overly expensive cards, absolute budget 3color land base>get a lucky first game and pull off my biggest synergy for a T7 win>"looks like anon built a bullshit deck again, guys! let's gang up on him!">get anally raped for 2 games>feel slightly sad>"okay maybe we overreacted anon, your deck isn't that dangerous, we will stop ganging up on you">instantly pull off my jank synergy again and the deck demolishes them like a godforsaken asshole>everyone just stares at the table in silence >"once again, we made the mistake of feeling empathy for you"George Constanza is my spirit animal
>proxying sticker sheetsDo people really do this?
>>97794110I just write with a sharpie on the sleeve
>>97794085This never happened
>woke up today>got out of bed>breathed airThis never happened btw
>>97794149as a matter of fact I'm still in bed so yes this never happend.
>>97791919Why is important that Amber Glenn likes Magic as a woman?I thought women already liked Magic, such as Autumn Burchett?
>>97793118Free JLo
>>97794225Taco taco, burrito burrito
>built his deck to gamble and get dopamine hits when I use his ability>almost always end up drawing said big creatures anyways and having enough mana to cast from handHelp, /edh/, I don't know what I'm missing. It just feels like I'm playing poor man's Azusa. Is his ability just not that great at 6 mana?
>>97793118>>97794356you both just want to play mayael>>97794356discard it + hua tuo/noxious revival/salvage/cavalier of thorns
>flavor>The 99>Politics>Rule 0>CubeIf you say any of this gay shit just kys
>>97794570What the fuck does Cube even mean?
>>97794570except actually>do the thing>yuck anyone's yum>some variation of 'we should all try and win once so it's even'
>>97794570I cast Grancestral Recall
>>97792592>Tidus, Yuna's Guardian>he fucking cut Yunaholy shit.
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
Has anyone here played against Kefka before? Is he really that obnoxious in bracket 3 or is he mainly a cedh menace?
>>97794760>is counter on sight too strong guise?
>>97794760It might be fine depending on your deck, but it is generally pretty strong and oppressive. I just played a Kefka reanimator pile and pretty much pubstomped a B3 table
>>97794866Damn i wanna play a reanimator pile, how do i build that? Is it just stuffing every reanimation sorcery into a deck and self-milling a bunch or is there some kinda engine i would wanna build?
>>97794875https://moxfield.com/decks/nsfWlgmAGESf8S3Y0Q0Qxg
>>97794885Regarding how it plays, you're playing a control shell, trying to ramp into Kefka as a discard outlet + card advantage engine, using cheap interaction to protect it, and reanimating your bombs
>>97794900>>97794885Looks kino thank you.
>>97794885>hehe look they took all these oppressive cards off the gc list so this is totally bracket 3!actual pubstomp deck
>>97794927Yes, this is better suited to a B4 table. I don't recommend playing it in B3. I just didn't have an incentive to add more GCs
Boon Reflection vs Alhammarret's Archive for a deck that wants to gain life? Obviously doubling draws is a great benefit for the same cost, but I feel like it makes it draw far more ire, plus enchantments are a bit harder to deal with compared to artifacts, right?
>>97791919>TQ: You can bring back one mechanic that hasn't been seen in 3+ years, and make it the primary mechanic of a new set. What do you choose?Rad counters for the love of god let there be way more/better support for it. I refuse to cheese the deck with like 30 fucking proliferate cards just to make it """viable"""
>>97792011Hell yeah, brother. Chasing all these down in foil was a struggle but the end result is just so good
>>97794215Do you think she plays EDH? Is she just LARPing that she likes magic because Hasbro paid her?
>>97792109I have a cEDH muxus deck and it actually stomps the meta. Look up Muxus on edhtop16.
>>97795075This would imply that edh players aren't larpers not being able to hack it in real formats.
>>97794983Oh boy more things to track. Bar deck is quickly becoming the best way to play.
am I try hard for including this in my monoblack bobblehead/vehicles deck?
>>97795121Tried of bloodborn already?
>>97795118No, it's based afCast it for B
>>97795121What's this from
>>97793180>5 is almost impossible to play with RandomsI meant randoms that also play cedh and are honest about itYou mean a random that's being cute not saying what bracket his deck is? Then use a turbo deck that doesnt care like rogsi
>>97795118The only try hard thing about it is the price, so just proxy it. This is an incredible protection piece, especially in monoblack
>>97795118This card is like Chains, it's so cool but prohibitively expensive.
>>97795157proxy it faggot
>>97793339Hushbringer's lifelink can be surprisingly neat in battle cruiser metas and with some +1/+1 counters.But he can be nuts.
>>97795180This guy completely fucking shuts down so many decks it's insane
>>97795128Kind of. Just killing time till I can finally order them.
>>97795180>>97795182>mfw opponent is running magistrate and abolisher
>>97792008>Hmmm how do I make land-ramp players mad in bracket 4?Big think moment>>97792060Tokens hit the graveyard. Long Feng is a 3-piece infinite combo engine.
>Opening hand>Sacred foundry and winds of change>Fuck it, time for the turn 1 hahas>Completely fuck myself and have two other players god hands.Maybe I'm too dumb for wheels
Can someone give some advice on my lantern control deck? My goal is to pretty much to win through making the other 3 people scoop. https://moxfield.com/decks/6iHEPIdm-UKNisxt5XTHqA
>>97795282>haha yeah man I just built this nekusar deck>t1 sol ring into signet>t2 dark rit notion thief winds of change
>>97795355My advice is go into white and play Tameshi. White has a lot of tools to help you not die to the board such as solitary confinement.
>>97795282Deserved
>>97795365Anyone who kills themselves like this is a king of comedy
>>97795370You're totally right, that active is just way better than Emry even for this deck honestly, I'll do that thanks anon
>>97795388the nekusar player just locked everyone out of the game, played anvil of bogarden. then everyone scooped
>>97791919>TQBackgrounds. These were cool and I'd love a return to them. Preferably without being connected to a videogame I'm not going to play.
just a reminder that turn two reanimate jin-gitaxias after discarding it with a turn 1 skip is a perfectly fine bracket 2 play. it doesn't win the game outright so it's not even a combo!
>>97792060You're mostly right, I'm still annoyed there isn't a a decent standalone Shredder. But Long Feng is actually pretty fantastic. If he's going to have a card that's a pretty versatile one.
>>97795408ran this in squall and it was brutal
>>97795416I"ve had someone complain about how they "can't even play the game" because I'm stopping his huge ass board from attacking with Ensnaring Bridge then do this later in the evening.
>>97795174Ew fuck off
Ban all Eldrazi and Praetors, simple as
Yeah bro let's just reprint this really expensive rare as a mythic, surely that will bring the price down and make players happy right?-Jewzards of the Coast
>>97795513Okay I'll bite: Which one?
>>97795513It's funny because Yugioh fans pog when this happens
>>97795540this applies to like half of all game changers
>>97795513The thing is, if they reprinted true duals or other RL cards, the cost of the old ones wouldn't drop, and people would still want them to not have the "scrub prints" while those said scrub prints would massively drive up the sales of whatever utter dogshit set like Karlov would have been.RL is an utter fucking lie that wouldn't actually hurt investards.Alpha sol ring is still 1200 fucking dollars for not even NM.
>>97795408BG1 and 2 are classics though. 3 is slop
>>97795610Literally who>also literally who
>>97795455I hope you buy one and you get scammed with a counterfeit, lmao
>>97795610Uh... SMT character?
>>97795610What's this from
>>97795540This was first brought to my attention when I was shopping for Smothering Tithe and I noticed that Wizards deliberately keeps reprinting it as a mythic for no fucking reason, then I noticed alot of other game changers and meta staples were the same wayIt's not even a new thing either they been doing this shit for years and years now, fuckin jews
>>97795650My most recent catch of this phenomenon was them reprinting Bloom Tender at mythic for absolutely no reason.
>>97795493>he doesn't like Ulamog the "fuck half your deck">he doesn't like Jin "your hand size is 0" GitaxisWhy are you gay?
>>97795650>Print a card at a lower rarity as some point without knowing how powerful it might actually be>Correct it later.I don't really see the problem.
>>97795627>>97795643>>97795647Now I know what it feels like to live out the unc meme...
>>97795699Whatever this is I guarantee SMT is more unc
>>97795690I know you're trolling but I still wanna point out that rarity =/= power
>we reprinted it>It's a bonus sheet >1 in every 50th booster or whatever it is Wow, "thanks">we reprinted it >It's only in a commander precon >resellers want to offset the other cards which have no value by selling this reprint for the same amount as before>reprinted card doesn't become cheaperThanks again
>>97795734Okay, but you're complaining about powerful cards being made into mythics. If mythics are meant to be powerful, then what's the issue?There isn't an issue.
>>97795742just print your own cards
>>97795742And this is why I proxy
>>97795745The issue is that mythics are much more difficult to pull than rares and wotc knows this so they intentionally reprint meta cards and staples as mythics to sell more packs which ends up harming player experience since this habit of rarity bumping does nothing to make good cards more affordable
>I want good cards, but I shouldn't have to pay a lot to chase them or to outright buy them.Yes, we get it.
>>97795767>mythics are much more difficult to pullPeople that try to get cards via boosters and not just buying singles are objectively fucking retarded
https://archidekt.com/decks/11611244/indoraptor_the_burn_engineThis here is my deck. It makes me happy.
>>97795778where do the singles come from, anon? do you think a higher rarity somehow affects the amount of singles available for sale?
>>97795789Ignore him. He's probably a retarded prof fan who doesn't get how resellers get their cards.
Is this worth getting?
>>97795816trannythar
>>97795742Literally just buy from Chang. You can have any $1000 card for $3. Between that and common stuff you can find for a few cents at your LGS, you can make a totally blinged out meta deck for $200 or less.
>>97795816Are you trans?
Wait mana drain isn't a game changer?? Wtf.
>>97795816Pretty cool deck, it's not gonna win you any cedh games but It's still one of the most fun precons out there
>>97795827Hi, Chang.
>>97795827>have such smol dick energy you actually give money to communists.
>>97795830Literally can't remember the last time someone played a mana drain in a game I was in, but I don't play cEDH
>>97795699Tfw the robots manage to keep zoomer fetishists away from my unc anime despite Bandai pushing a card game, minis tabletop game, films and model kits.
>>97795816Not really. Making a walls deck where a bunch of defenders gain the ability to attack is a casual level strategy for goofing around only. You can build yourself from scratch for less than $80 with the main expense being the lands. A deck like this should probably have blue, green and white as the main colors, no idea why there is black.
>>97795834>>97795841>I'm fine with giving money to WOTC>but getting the same thing for a tiny fraction of the cost is badExplain.
>>97795842That's probably because it's like 50 bucks
>>97795830Because they're printing it at 3 mana this month
>>97795855>the same thingThe fakes have only gotten worse recently tbqhAnd chinks are fags
>>97795856I play on cockatrice and with proxies exclusively
They’re all kino.
>>97795876isn't the jeskai deck pretty middling
Is there a different site for setting up prints than mtgfill and proxy print set-up? For whatever reason when I use the two of them, the cards come out like 10% smaller than actual cards no matter how I fiddle with settings
>>97795858>3 mana>and a wizardfathoms beneath actual mana drain
>>97795889mtgprint.net
>>97795866Unfortunately autists were using the higher print quality to spot counterfeits.
>>97795867On Cockatrice the host will kick you if you hurt their feelings.
>>97795945I assume you think it's ok to behave like you're on 4chan IRL, tough shit retard
>Guy is asking for input on his deck>sends me thisI'm not exactly one of those people who thinks token doublers should be just written off, but dear lord.
>>97795016I wish it had support. More than one viable commander would be nice (the izzet one is just unfun spellslinger shit) as would an ability to actually recur your attraction if destroyed. And some legal attractions that have prizes.
>>97795965people will unironically make a deck that costs more than 50 bux and wonder why the game is shit
Why is green unironically so unfun to play in EDH
>>97795980uh oh... it's not fun bros...
>>97795988that's an izzet card
>>97795720Nigga fuckin Adventure time and MLP is Unc now
>>97795980this but white.
>>97795957No I mean "counter their commander when it's objectively correct" hurt their feelings.
>>97795994I agree, but also that effect is only on that card, diviner spirit, and xyris; so it's hard to tell what the official stance is at this point.
>>97795416Correct it's the thoracle of b2Now go abuse it before they make entomb and jin GCs
>built him as a lifegain joke deck>friend wanted to try 1v1 against yesterday>demolished him for 8 out of 10 games>said it's not fucking fun to play against himis he right?
>>97796088You aren't supposed to build this Doran because it's woke or something
>want to make something unpopular, ideally out of the top 1000>everything out of the top 1000 is dogshitI honestly don't know what to make. I wanna make something chill, comfy, bracket 2 sort of energy. Feels like a lot of dogshit commanders need a ton of help in the 99 to even work.
>>97796103Just buy a precon
Just build a solid deck that doesn't need its commander to function and then slap a shitty commander in your colors on there.
>>97796099did they make the tree gay or something?
>>97796109I have many precons, precons are the exact opposite of unknown.>>97796111Probably what I'd do. The only thing I really have in mind is pic rel with a bunch of curses, but that'd probably be cringe.
>>97796103Mistform everything tribal
>>97796116someone complained a while ago that they didn't do the variation on doran's original quote the right way; but it's confirmed to be shadowmoor doran and I thought everyone was OK with him being sad and withered in that case.
>>97796099No you don't build it because youre too cool for muh spicy influencer rat colony build and regular Doran is was good enough for me when I definitely played predh.
>>97796137I have no idea what any of that means, I just like big asses
>>97796103Make stompy theft
>>97796116Some weird shit where someone was pretending he was emasculated and cucked because he is white male coded or some insane shit.
>>97796122>I have many precons, precons are the exact opposite of unknown.Then build bracket 3. Spending 400+ for a deck equal in power to my 40 dollar precon is a fucking waste
>>97796111aka bracket 5
>>97796103Try harder. I play Bill Ferny, Lotho Corrupt Shirrif, and Horobi Death’s Wail (#986 but whatever).My friend group plays Questing Beast, Abomination of Llanowar, and Dalakos Crafter of Wonders
>>97796103A pure and unadulterated lack of imagination made all the more embarrassing by the sheer amount of options the tards in charge of this game have been shitting out.
>>97796182More like bracket 2 lmao
>commander clash>episode does not have richard
>>97795146Soul Calibur
>>97796305>skillcheck>episode does not have charlie
>>97796001MLP is just pedostache core
>>97796103Build this.
>>97796324>pedostacheI don't know what this is. Most pedos don't have staches.
>>97796346>8 mana
>>97796353If you play commander without having an appreciation for overcosted dogshit cards you're simply doing it wrong, don't know what to tell you.
>>97796364Enjoy never playing it because everyone is well established on board by turn 5
>>97796371That or wiping the board turn 5 yes
If I have 4 mana I am supposed to play Smothering Tithe BEFORE Ms. Bumbleflower, correct? I feel like if I do that though I become too much of a perceived threat too quickly
>>97796452You have Smothering Tithe out the fuck are they gonna do when you're playing with infinite mana cheat code turned on?
>>97796103man up you coward
>>97796103I got you, family.
>>97796452you're supposed to have aluren out
>>9779654132 Lands (18 basics) and 16 forms of Ramp should be fine for Bracket 2 casuals, yeah?
>>97796452Generally you dont want to play bumbleflower without protection or counterspells if you have them in your hand.Having interaction in your hand is very common because we run a ton in bumbleflower.Smothering tithe makes you a threat but also gives you mana for your protection on the next turn so yeah Id usually play smothering tithe first but not always.
>>97796518>a fellow Stromgald enjoyerHoly based. I was trying to do Mardu, then Boros, and finally Mono-Red Knights, and he was the commander of choice for the last but was always in the others.
>>97793368>>97793339>>97793594>>97795180I feel like playing this stuff is basically an advanced form of suicide unless you're already winning.
When do you say you have too many decks and start taking them apart? It's daunting trying to update shit when I have so goddamn much. I need to make a CK list and convert it to playable shit instead of harding all this bulk
Yes. My commander looks like this. If you replace horse with creature he’d be a top 100 EDHREC kino commander. But I persevere nonetheless.
>>9779664516 ramp is okayish if youre counting generic mana generating cards like seedborn muse as "ramp" but 32 lands is extremely low, you should be running 36 or more, we are a control deck, we need the game to go late and to do so we should be aiming to play a land every turn so we need more than normal regardless of our large amount of card draw.
>>97796679What if people simply choose not to block him?
>>9779664532 lands is way too low unless you're packing shit like the Moxes
Kodama of the East Tree appears to have a lot of combos that are officially "three card combos"
>>97796693I was considering things like Sol Ring, Signet, Mana Dorks, Rampant Growth likes, and such as rampish, but i was worried my counts were getting low. Need to find a few cards to thin out. Still a magic newfag so I don't have a lot of draw power; my locals doesn't mind proxies but I don't really want to just proxy too much stuff if I can help it.Seedborn Muse is neat though. I'll see if I can get one when I upgrade into Bracket 3 properly.
>>97795816I bought it not too long ago and I've been enjoying playing it. It's not very powerful but it's fun if you're a wall enjoyer.
How do I politely tell someone in my pod that I don't think his card art of Ugin and Bolas making out in a suggestive position is official?
>>97796765stop being a chud
>>97796726Go ahead! Don’t block him. See what happens!
>>97796776OK, thanks, I'll tell him that.
>TQDungeons, Bestow, or Mutate>>97792011are attractions fun/hard to play? I like dungeons but fuck if we only have 3 of them (and initiative)
>>97796787What site are you using to make these?
>>97796813>are attractions fun/hard to play?Depends which commander you use for it.
>weekly commander>$6 entry comes with a pack>one pack per win at arranged pods >tranny gets mad when it's competitive decks Am I wrong to think that prizing = competitive?
>>97796826This is pretty reasonable. If you're getting rewarded for winning, people will inevitably play to win. At my shop its 5 dollar entry but its just to bankroll a raffle at the end of the night for promo packs/cards. Pod gameplay is just for fun and I still see schizos with Bracket 4/5 infinite look Vivi decks anyway.
>>97796826You're kinda looking at a gentleman's agreement at that point where people should be intentionally keeping things light even if there's prizes on the line. Unless it was explicitly a CEDH pod I'd be reaching for one of my 3s unless a bunch of people were already talking about running 4s.Booster packs already cost like 6 or 7 bucks on their own, anything you win on top of that is extra value on your entry.
>>97796826>>97796830>not using bracketsHow hard is it to say 'yeah let's make this tournament a b2 because people going infinite before turn 9 is lame'
>>97796826>>weekly commander>>$6 entrystopped reading right there
>>97796660Mono Red knights is definitely weak but monocolor lets you ramp much harder with things like Extraplanar Lens and Gauntlet of Might.
>>97796841Probably because they would get significantly less visitors
>>97796847>i'd rather be pubstomped so long as i can keep my irrational hatred of wotc Even a broken clock is right twice a day and you're ngmi
>>97796820Recommend me something, curious about giving them a go.
>>97796854made you what
Once again i'm reminded that people actually love rhystic study and all cries for it to be banned is just performative nonsense because they refuse to play at bracket 2 where rhystic is banned
>>97796818Archidekt
>>97796859was a think popular like a month ago where you had 9 games/manga/(mtg cards) that was sort of defined your core/favorites for whatever genre the 3x3 was.In this case, my first cards were around odyssey/torment, with original mirrordin/kamigawa being sort of where I really got into the thick of things.None of these cards are good now (save maybe Root sliver and broodstar), but I loved them all the same back in the day.
>>97796865Rhystic absolutely should just be universally banned. Any card like that is considered a "must include" regardless of deck type should be reviewed for banning.
>>97796866thank
>>97796878It's finally time to ban Island.
>>97796878>Any card like that is considered a "must include" regardless of deck type should be reviewed for banning.I agree, ban basic lands
>>97796878Agreed.>>97796883There's a card for this.
>>97796758>>97795816Is taking this and upgrading it with a Doran treefolk tribal defender worth it?
>>97796878And yet you dont practice what you preachWotc is scratching their heads saying 'why would we ban rhystic when people love to play b3+ instead of b2 where it's banned'Not only that rhystic is pretty much the only reason why cedh decks are not all turbo and why midrange is even still a thing so it's not like banning it is a slam dunk decision anyway
>>97796854>phantom NishobaBASED
How do I make this interesting?
>>97796893Imagine the possibilities.
>>97796852The store does not care if you are pub stomped. Getting less attendees means they get less WOTC support
>>97796906The store does care about word of mouth and return business and if you're saying that they're playing cute by not outright saying it's cedh for the sake of luring in timmies then roru rumao
>>97796908I don't think you know what the WPN is
>>97796883>>97796886You are both well aware that basic lands are exempt from this. Here's your (You).>>97796891I do prefer b2. If I must play b3 though not using the mandatory cards just means you're automatically weaker. CEDH is like competitive smash and should not factor into any decision whatsoever.
>>97796900I love cards with weird rule interactions. Anything with an anthem or auras with +x/+x are very funny on Nishoba due to its silly wording
>>97796914I just like bringing up the "ban Island" meme any chance I get. I unironically agree with you.
>>97796910Wotc does not care if the store gets attendance or sales all they care about is distribution, hence why spiderman is still top 10 best selling setThe store should really know better than to trick timmies just for packs
>>97796841>>97796847>>97796852I should also note they are wpn and use companion. Official stance is no proxies unless you have the card with you. So you can proxy your binder copies or whatever but you have to own the card and have it with you.
>>97796914The higher you go in brackets the more it emulates cedh, so it's no surprise that tithe and rhystic are auto includes because they form the backbone of cedh esper midrange>yes people really should play b2 more
my decks: 50 dollarsnet decks: 5000 dollarswhat am I missing
>>97796932Good cards, cool prints, deckbuilding skill, etc.
>>97796914I definitely enjoy seeing crazy nonsense go down in Bracket 2, Bracket 3 feels like it becomes a bit too streamlined by staples.>>97796932Mox Sapphire
>>97796896you win with it once and take it apart for something that's actually fun
>>97796932The inherent need to whale. But don't worry, that's like asking what disease you're missing. You should be thankful you are healthy instead.
>>97796932The slightly better versions of stuff you're using that are around 400x more expensive probably.
>>97796937I wish I had at least won with my imoti deck, it was such a dream but it turned out to be just a meme
>>97796928lame. My store uses WPN and app and doesn't try to police proxies.
>>97796937It looks fun to me
>>97793460Cheating since I'm a time traveller but here's one you can use.
>>97796979>kirby's power and toughness are equal to the number of food you controlthat's clearly not what's going on in the p/t boxdoesn't need flying, and not a white card
>>97796990Food is white
>>97793460Why don't you just make a custom card thread? What is your insistence with constantly begging people to post custom cards in a thread that's just about a specific format of Magic?
>>97796979Kirby should be colorless.
>>97796990>o-ring on a body>not a white card
>>97796979If they made a nintendo set, mtg would be saved for all time. Those guys buy product.
>>97796997>STOP HAVING FUN IN THE THREAD ABOUT THE FUN MAGIC FORMAT GUIZSorry I forgot we're only supposed to cry about UB and tripfags in here.
>>97797013At least you realized the folly of your ways
>>97793460
>>97797013Custom cards just have fuck-all to do with EDH specifically. What because EDH is "fun"? The fuck does that even mean? Are other formats not fun?What is preventing you for making a thread about the thing you want to discuss instead of constantly trying to piggyback off this thread in particular?
>>97797024>anon asked for some custom cards because his lgs has custom edh tourneys >anons provide some>you, a worthless faggot: "THAT'S NOT ABOUT EDH"crymore bitch
>>97797032Nah fuck that shit. Show us evidence of this custom card tournament. You've been making the same fucking posts for weeks asking people to post "custom UB", you got shit on for it so you've changed tact slightly.You revealed your hand when the first fucking thing you said when called out about it this time was a snarky comment about people shitting on UB too much in these threadsJust. Make. Your. Own. Thread.
>>97796979>3-drop exile a creature every untap with burn optionYeah WotC would be stupid enough to print this.
>>97797040>bro just dox yourself
>>97797040Nah fuck you not reading your cry posts
>>97797042Yeah cos you're the only guy going to a TOURNAMENT huh? Only one person in the whole world who could post evidence of a custom card tournamentYou've been so hilariously btfo, the likes of which I've never seen
>>97797046>you NEED to tell me where you live, this is essential information to the thread
>>97797051>>you NEED to tell me where you liveDo you live in your LGS anon? How much are they charging you to sleep under the tables?Post a custom card tournament or just admit you want a custom card thread but worry it wouldn't get any (You)s
>>97797066>IM NOT THAT GUY!!!>okay yes actually I am that guyGG I guess
>>97793460I made this for my friend's birthday. Only downside is it wouldn't be able to be a commander but we house rule it for him. He really enjoys it.
>>97793460Do you like group hug?
I'm building Karn legacy reforged as my commander. Anyone have weird artifact combos or pet artifact cards that are fun? So far I threw in the deck of many things just cause why not.
>>97797040abyssal tier autism
>>97797163Krang baby!
>>97797066>poopdickschizoforbidden word
>>97797163I throw this thing in almost every deck I make. Unfortunately, it's price has risen a lot thanks to premodern. So glad I own almost a dozen.
>>97797180Nice bracket 4 card
>I’m totally not replying to myself with all the custom cards I wanted to post guys!!>all these posts are very on topic okay!?!?!? I will NOT make my own thread
>>97797163Hit em with the new little guy from EoE that exiles graveyards and makes a lander token on entry
>>97797187>Everyone. Arguing. With. Me. Is. The. Same. Anon!
Thinking of building a mono-color deck to get back into the rhythm of EDH. I miss the fun of going to my LGS but I sure do hate TMNT and Marvel.
>>97797200I tried to build mono colors but I found the vast majority of mono commanders extremely boring or weak. They don't get a lot of love from the design staff. I've been trying to think of a mono blue one for a deck type I don't already have and nothing has interested me. I said it last thread but I wish these little critters were Commander legal, I don't have a token deck and I'd love to make one with HH.
legal in pedh
>>97797212I figure something really simple might make for a cheap and easy to construct pile, my other current decks are>very expensive Dimir Artifact/Surveil>Bant +1/+1 counters/proliferate>Temur DragonsIt's more about breaking my malaise over Magic than it is making something strong. I can also beef it up later, though a Rakdos or Boros deck could be fun. Mono-Red means I can just focus on hitting people, and I have a spare Extraplanar Lens and Valakut sitting around. I'll probably have to find a pile of cool legendary creatures when I get home in a few hours and toss my way through them.
>you hate UB so much you kill every legendary creature on sight just to make a statement
>>97795513this but an uncommon and common as mythic and rare
>>97796305>>97796315>e-celeb vid>episode doesn't have the right scrimblo
>>97793213I am tempted to try aristocrats. How many spirits are stored in those soultanks?
>>97797013this but unironically
>>97797422our tripfag is cool tho
>>97797374>even the flavor text fitsGod if only she wasn't 7 fucking mana
>>97796891Cedh games now go to timer in 3 hour rounds because people started running decks where they make multiple rhystics and it paralyzes the table.
how do we make B2 played again
>>97797455Hopefully she will get a rework at some point like a few others of the weatherlight arc legends did
>>97792008green players just use it to spam scute swarms or make 100/100 hydras, just cast insurrection and use their own dudes against them.
>>97797163You must include this piece of shit if you are going to run all the notorious untappers.
>>97797651It's like 90% of what my LGS plays, I wish I got to use my B3 deck more.
>>97792817>anowon cheese lore yet livesKeep fighting the good fight, Anons.
>>97795199The greatest White card of all time. In form, function and flavor, it's simply perfect.
>>97796888Respect the Oracle en-Vec
>>97797163
>two mana to draw one card>four mana to draw two cards>six mana to draw four cards>eight mana to draw eight cards>positive returns thereafterI get that having options is always a good thing, but none of these options seem worthwhile at the prices asked.
>>97797876fun combo
>>97797896It's complete ass, just like all the other "hey we reprinted the thing but worse!" cards. What they need to do is just fuck the reserve list.>new dual lands that entered untapped, but they're different color combos instead of the OG duals' colors>Sorrowful Monolith: 2c, gives 3c, untaps for 4 health>White Lotus: 0c, gives 3c mana>Ancestral Voice: 1(literally any color but blue), draw 3 cardsAnd so on.
>>97798026This opinion reeks of someone who started with the Final Fantasy set
>>97797896The audience for this card are bracket 2/3 UGx rampfags or URx spellfags who will have no problem casting this for X = 6
Bad card, or just okay card
>>97798224Leave this card to cubeYou can do better than an explosive vegetation that costs 5 and a land drop
>>97796888ban all green land tutors (i.e., half of all green cards ever printed)
>>97798224green is inherently the most faggy of the Magic colors and no thats a terrible cost for land tutoring that green already has. in any other color it would be good.
>>97798264>ban blue because counters>ban black because mean>ban green because landsYou know white and red is still weak in casual when no one gets mad about them
>>97798276Which is weird, white can be just as mean as black in terms of killing anything and everything on the board.
>>97798224Playable in like B2 green decks. Even there it's not great, but at least it's two landfall triggers on a land, which is useful.
>>97798224I'd be very hard pressed to need to include this in any deck other than Omnath Locus of Rage or similar
Aggro is such a superior archetype than anything else for me at this point, I'm tired of boring battlecruiser/combo solitaire tables
>>97798282What casuals hated about white are specific cards not what the color does in general and said cards are all on the GC list (farewell lol)
>>977983515 mana is just a big ask in Rakdos, especially for a removal magnet. But he's a fun dude.Defintiely puts pressure on your opponents.
I'm starting to hate this card more and more. Oh, you've played her cheap, yet powerful commander on t2? Here's a strong ritual plus impulse draw as a reward!
>>97798419Stop it! Red can't have good cards! STOOOOOOOP! NOOOO!
>>97798419Strength is relative.
>>97798351>play aggro>kill someone early because thinning out the table asap is literally the only way aggro can win>table spergs out because muh bracketsMan fuck you for the turn count thing Gayvin.
>>97798621Voltron and aggro can kill (1) player early and that's fine because brackets say player(s) (meaning all your opponents) expect to live to turn X not just one
>>97798621Also forgot to add but voltron and aggro arent even combo to begin with so to sperg about an underpowered strat speaks more about your pod than anything else
Am I crazy for preferring old beat up prints of cards?
>>97798688here's the validation you're seeking
What do you think of my pod’s commanders?
Is this deck cancer? https://archidekt.com/decks/21224607/_
>>97798698Thank you, I feel validated now. I wanted to know if people preferred modern or "older" art for their cards. I feel the art direction changed around 2008 or so.
>>97792060https://archidekt.com/decks/18178406/blood_bendhere's my bloodbender deck
>>97798739I wasn't being facetious, the older opaque borders are goated
>>97798711I could be wrong, but Narset is the oldest Commander I see here, which tells me your group's tastes are skewing pretty deep into contemporary stuff. A shame, but not unexpected.
>>977987114/10
>>97798725If you have to ask...But as a serious answer, it's Tinybones with a UB skin. Of course it's cancer. It's at least double cancer.
>>97798688See those damaged edges? That's wotc acknowledging your tastes
>>97798688As long as you properly sleeve and take care of them, nah.
>>97798711bill ferny anon, I can't believe you have two bill ferny decks
>>97792008Blow 'em up, obviously
>>97792499Probably, but I didn't watch the video. How about you watch it and tell us?
>>97798688kinda dependsI like the ones I have damaged over the yearsalso if the damage is unique like some weird surface scratch it can be neat to decipher what caused it but if it's just wear or poopoo on a random revised border then I'd rather have a clean onefor example this one time I got a mana geysir that had the words mox opal pressed on the back but no ink. like someone had written a proxy on a basic on top of it and it went through. that's funny
>>97794570Actually, how about (You) kys?
>>97798831Yeah but I’m not locking people out, o turgid or alclotz and 30% of the deck is bobbleheads and a car and treasure synergies, with lots of sorceries and council cards
>>97796765"I don't think your card art of Ugin and Bolas making out in a suggestive position is official." Simple.
>>97799009>discardUseless in cEDH, miserable everywhere else. Just't don't.
>>97796854If I was in control of things, I would make Tatsumasa a legal monoblue Commander.
>>97799060HELP GAVIN BLACK IS BEING MEAN AGAIN
Just played in B2 for the first time and holy FUCK I'm never doing that ever again. The games are a total miserable grindfest, why would people enjoy this
>>97799074Bracket 1 and 2 are for slamming beers with the homies on the patio while you loosely play a children's card game.
>>97796896There, now you can tutor any creature you like. The joke is, you only have obscure, not so great shit in there nobody would ever expect to see. Like Minion of the Wastes.
>>97799074I respect your time dont worry I got you
>>97799072Aristocrats, big mana, reanimator, group slug, there's a hundred ways to play black that don't turn the game into a topdeck slugfest. Go ahead and take your deck to your LGS and see how many people want to play with you again
>>97799060Hand disruption is only miserable if you don't know how to draw the right cards at the right time.
>>97796932It's not what (You) are missing, it's what they are missing, and that is soul.
>>97798224It's a land if you need it, and ramp if you don't. Pretty harmless, but not a must have.
>>97799098>aristocrats where i combo off with drain>big mana (or just krrik) into demons that kill your stuff>reanimator where i turn 2 jin gitaxias>group slug which includes painful quandary and co.There's no way to build black in a conpetent way without making people cry that's literally what the color does and (You) not letting me be a bad guy is not being very inclusive
>>9779872545 salt score, but you have howling mine and anvil of bog. A bunch of random shit. Chains and necrogen mists. No breach, sheoldred, bow masters or return of the dark realms. No tutors or game changers.
>>97799126>is my deck cancer?>yes>REEEE
>>97799135>am I a pussy?>Yes
optimized budget decks with soft bracket 2 rules (very few to none tutors, MAYBE 1 gc) is how my friends want to play. I dominate that meta with the most retarded combat damage decks.
Playing a mono-green deck with 37 lands and 20 ramp, or cards which get more lands into my hand. Is it better to drop a land or two, or drop some of the ramp?
>>97799158Run 41 lands first
>>97799050But what if this prompts him to spend the next 3 hours talking about gay dragon sex to explain the lore?
>>97799163I've come down from 40 because I find that I ramp and have loads of land but can't get to any cards which progress my gameplan
>>97799170Two options:1. Tell him there's no situation where that is an appropriate conversation to have.2. Cast Silence
>>97799179Post list
>>97799158What does your curve look like and what is the deck trying to do
>>97799198But if I tell him I don't think it's official I'm inviting him to explain the lore to justify it.
>>97799234Then invite your fist to his jaw. Or, just don't play with the dork.
Cedh anon here. Debating going to TnT or 5c sisay slop pile. I missed the boat on candelabra of tawnos though and don't want to fork out the 2k for it.
>>97798633No brackets say you should not expect to win or lose before turn X, meaning you shouldn't usually die before turn 6 individually.
>>97799266But if I try that he'll cast Deflecting Palm and I'll look like an idiot for playing into it.
>>97799202>>97799206I miscounted it's 36 lands. It's a bit of a jank deck that I've been refining for a long time to get it as competitive as I can. The goal is to use Baru's Granduer ability by making a copy of him, sacrificing the original, returning it to my hand from my graveyard, then discarding it again. Ideally then repeating this process if I have the mana a few times per turn.Don't pay too much attention to what's in the sideboard or considering, I don't often clear out what I've cut.https://moxfield.com/decks/7HrV75eB3U-zD32LIhWg7g
>>97799285Oh. That is trifling. In that case, be sure to set up Cho-Manno with Pariah before you go to punch him.
>>97799074Your b2 games were very different from my experience then. The main reason mine take so long is because some players take forever.
>>97799325But if I give him too much time to set up he'll be able to win off resolving Celestial Reunion beholding two dragons.
>>97799305Put it on a better equipment
>>9779862190% of my games with Isshin are like this.>>97798688I don't mind my old border cards being in shitty condition. Honestly I prefer it, it gives them character. But for modern border (especially m15 border) cards any ding or scrape makes them look like shit.
I like playing this game
>>97799359I don't know what that means, but have a Meddling Mage meddle.
>>97792566>>97792796>>97795121>>97797839>>97799305TRANSCENDING HISTORY, AND THE WORLD, A TALE OF SOULS AMD SWORDS, ETERNALLY RETOLD...
okay, so this is the plan>small evaders with fat asses>combat damage draw / low creature power ETB draw>lifedrain payoffsany super secret tech I can run?
>>97799273>playerS expectWhy lie over something so easy to disprove, timmy?
>>97799383Dont go to /mtg/ then
>>97799471"Wait, what's landwalk?"
>>97799474>try to talk to friends about brackets and what I want my deck to orient themselves at because they often tend to be strong>"NOOOOO! FUCK brackets! everyone can just build what they want!">ok cool, I always wanted to play my xenagos deck with a bunch of tutors and 3 gamechangers again>"NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT XENAGOS WTF I CAN LITERALLY DO NOTHING AGAINST A SINGLE TRAMPLE DAMAGE SWING AIEEEEEE">goes I will limit myself according to bracket 2 rules to make the game more enjoyable for you>"FFFFFFUCK BRACKETS AIEEEE I WILL NEVER USE THIS SYSTEM I WANT MY TPRO AND MY NECROPOTENCE AIEEEEEEEE">okay, anyways, here is my jank budget commander, much weaker than xenagos, but can still become a threat by t6!>"you know anon, magic just isn't the same it was anymore. I know I just started playing the game 3 years ago, but I feel old. back in my days, there was no bracket system, and everyone could just build whatever they wanted..."We have a variant of this discussion every single week.
>>97799599a consequence of sheldon's naivete that players could self regulate unfortunately
>>97799296I respect the jank, even if it is absolutely ludicrous. Regarding mana, running so much ramp with such a low land count is absolutely pointless unless you draw really well. I would personally run at least 42 lands here, cutting two or three pieces of ramp and other nonessential cards that only do what they're supposed to do when you're already ahead.If you're skeptical about it I would encourage you to at least duplicate the list, make the changes and goldfish for a bit with both lists and see how they compare.
>>97799474>>97799599>bracketsWhy so serious about punctuation marks?
The problem with brackets isn't that they're undefined, it's that the people that play this game are man children that will have a genuine meltdown if someone plays well. When playing with these people, you can make ANY deck! As long as it's mid range value slop with no interaction because killing your opponents threats is toxic mmk? No control, no aggro, no theft, nothing that might cause bad fee fees>this is the baordstate that made people cry in a b3 lobby>turn 5 btw
>>97799610Reminder, anyone who complains about brackets, is just a retard who wants to cram every powerful card they own into a deck but can't handle playing at the level where people are much better pilots and deck builders and they can't faceroll like they do against precons.
>>97799627People don't take Anim Pakal seriously, and I don't understand why. If they just see boros and think "yeah, its still 2011, boros is trash"Even without Isshan, you'd be running away with the game.
>>97799632Maelstrom Wanderer feat. Primal Surge
>>97799645It's whack. People take Myrele seriously but not Anim, yet they both exponentially grow an army.
>>97799632Kynaios and Tiro group hug
>>97799397What if he has Kindred Dominance naming Dragon?
>>97799632Nicol Bolas (either one)
Sorry that you need three mulligans to get a decent opening hand. Turn one winds of change
>>97799737>mfw I play it
>>97799627>No control, no aggro, no theft>No combo, no tutors, no killing my stuff>just let me do the thing ok>fucking hell why is simic so unstoppablehahaha every. single. time.
>>97799708Plasm Capture, then on your turn, use that free mana to help cast Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund to steal his board and smash him to dust. No more gay dragons, never play with him again. Bosh.
>>97799366Which one?
>>97799832He has Dromoka on the field though.
>>97799888You're trying my patience, but I acknowledge your trips and shall give you one final reply. Sacrifice a Mindslicer to Attrition.
>>97799908He has Pithing Needle
>>97799628motherfucker just let me rape your board with farewell. let me RAAAAAAAAPE
>>97799617Yeah it's ludicrous but it's so worth it when I tell people I'm playing a Grandeur deck in a singleton format.I can see the logic in what you say so I'll give it a go. I've had mostly okay results so far but just slow to draw and poor at defending myself. Hopefully with some tweaks as you suggest I can even win some games.
>>97799976I feel you, my mono-red deck simply can't work without bloodmoon. I need it to function or I can't beat precons.
>>97799976farewell becoming a gamechanger has got to be the funniest thing ever, as it exposed all anons who complained about it to be pubstompers
>>97800075I already played at Bracket 3 so Farewell going on the list didn't affect me at all. It's not really worth a cry.
>>97800241>tithe>tpro>enlightenedfarewell is basically banned in the lower brackets, b3 has better GCs to pick
>7 mana boardwipe is too much for b3 faggots
>>97800273you know you can play b3 without running 3 gamechangers right? most people do that, you dont need to cram boring goodstuff into your deck just because they made a bracket system that says 3 gamechangers.
>>97800391you do know that i can't hope to read your mind and find out what tickles your fancy so i just talk about what wins because that's practical enough to do in an anonymous forum about a card game that's been a pvp game since 1993, right?
>>97800391nta, but the only reason why I build b3 without gamechangers is because people suck so hard at deckbuilding that I stomp them if I don't hold back in multiple ways. if people knew how to build decks, I would use them again.
I want to build a 5c deck that's somewhat interesting and not a battlecruisery pile of goodstuff, considering Chromat, Reaper King, Kyodai Soul of Kamigawa, and Tazri Stalwart Survivor. Anyone have any interesting 5c brews?
>>97800461why does it have to be 5c? why do you need ALL the colors? you can have a 5c commander but have all naya cards you know
The image limit has been reached and it's almost page 10.Nazi OP incoming.
>>97800569FINALLY
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