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>>97796658West Coast freak
>>97796650>TQ Immediately if the 70 detachments are equally spread out across factions and it isn't just giving marinepiggies 30+ of em.
What makes Leman Russ such a big gay jobber, anyway? Is it all the dog loving?
>>97796667Bite your tongue lorelet, speak on things you have knowledge of bitch.
>>97796650
Primarchs are all gay and retarded and a legion is infinitely cooler when their daddy isn't a retarded marvelslop capeshitter faggott. Wordchad
>>97796667>Big He's a primarch>GayHe's a space marine>JobberHe's a space wolf.
>>97796667He's an extremely middle-of-the-road fighter as all the primarchs go (8th best duelist) while also being one of the dumber primarchs.
>Have 24 models in Combat Patrol>Have only assembled 7How does one assemble all in a day and not get burnt out?
>>97796686>t.nomodels >>97796684Anon it's time you stop sucking XenoCock, I know you love it and slurp it regularly but it's time to return to reality FagFuck...
Imperial Fists primaris intercessors
>>97796696If mods don't blast this Xeno infiltrator we have to assume they have been compromised....
>Horned Rat becomes the fifth chaos god in the AoS endtimes leakWould that make it more likely for Vashtorr to become the fifth in 40k?
>>97796661I've only gone to WA for work so not sure why you think that?also, leave that shit in /slop/, post model instead.
>>97796702isn't he already the fifth chaos god in AoS?
>>97796684>book raper>thinking he can look down on anyoneGo get dunked on by bird dad again, you loose leaf molesting fruitcake.
>>97796728Pic unrelated? That's IH
Anon was shitposting with the idea of space marines shitting themselves after being so used wearing their stillsuits, I mean power armour. But I think space marines and their reliance on their armour, which are each ancient sacred relics their forebears and great chapter heroes died in is underdeveloped and not focused on.In the secret level amazon short we see the daemon/ sorcere play on the fears of space marines to kill them. One of the bladeguards has his own armour rip him out and crush his skull. To me that was the astartes fearing he was nothing without his armour and that the armour is the real space marine being piloted by different gene-enhanced barely human pilots. I dunno there's a lot you could do between an asartes and their relationships with their armour that isn't really used
>>97796695>t.nohellblasters
>>97796751It's true...I'm trying tho
i think my collage entry for next month will be a riptide with some railguns bolted on vaporizing a space wolf
>>97796747I was just thinking something similar. In the Flesh Tearers book the one guy breaks his arm in a crash and he snaps it back into place and it's no big deal, the first thing I thought was the armor would be a splint but then I realized, how do you break your arm in power armor in the first place?Depending on the chapter, they probably are held together by their armor to a certain extent. IH takes hours just to get out of theirs, while the more espionage or barbarian focused ones probably fight without it on occasion.Aspirants go through so much it's hard to picture an Astartes with impostor syndrome though. Except the Absolvers apparently.
>>97796658i hate her and all other vtubers
> Red Corsairs Raiders are now Primaris scale> Emperors Children are now Primaris sizedSeems deliberate, and probably the right move.
>>97796772nice, i've been holding off building my Tau commander and xv8's because of wargear, but i think i'll just get one done with the right loadout for the collage.
>>97796702I dunno. Vashtorr always seemed to me to be more like a 40k version of Hashut than a 40k Horned Rat.
Wait.>homeland no longer exists>continue fighting for it while insisting it still stands>it was destroyed by the Black LegionCadians are Rhodesians?
>>97796791That's funny, i like the angle you can push that.I now to make a "the days" edit mixing cadian art with bush war pics.
>>97796791No because Cadians aren’t retards and successfully exterminated the original populace of their rather than enslave them.
>>97796780The development of Primaris marines was outright to put them on an even playing field with chaos marines who are usually so hopped up on warp juice they probably out mass loyalists by a fair margin in fluff. A veteran chaos marine is likely to be mutated as much as any primaris mods could hope for.
>>97796775>Aspirants go through so much it's hard to picture an Astartes with impostor syndrome thoughDecades or even centuries of getting ABIs and religious fanaticism towards their deified long dead brothers who each living astartes is trying to live up to. I can see imposter syndrome developing over time when an older astartes you look up to dies from something minor. you know?
any other elfchads itt? what are some models i should focus on getting to fill out a 1k list if I got the new corsair combat patrol. prince yriel seems like an easy pick up
i never knew that kitbashing could be so much fun
>>97796849i'm sorry anon but i love gold
what is the next collage subject anyway
>>97796856Next collage has two different themes to pick from. You can do either "crucible character" or "space wolves getting absolutely destroyed." Or both.
>>97796850what ya kitbashing?
>>97796853>cuckstodes
>>97796868hh custodes
>>97796869>cool models>easy to paint>one of the cheapest armies
Starting an orange votann army and need some inspiration for some alien bases. Any easy suggestions?
>>97796877you could try doing this
>reinforce multiple chapters filled with raving cannibals>send>re-found chapters that were excommunicated, when it triggers the Inquisition's autism and coming up with new chapter names is free>traitor geneseed that was expressly forbidden by Guilliman, the one person protecting my heretek ass>send, and use their original iconography>build an AI, something that Imperial technology is designed around not using>send, literally send Guilliman a copyWe know Cawl is an absolute madlad, but what is his most unhinged decision?
>>97796874The latter make you a noob, and call into question the sincerity of the former.>>97796877>orangeMaybe some aquatic bases, maybe in teal?
>>97796895his super special pet project that is the space mariniest space marine to ever space marine
>>97796901i like my golden dudessimple as
>>97796895>mad genius is madMore news at 11.
>>97796870Aww yeah, great models to kitbash to get as heroic and unique as possible.
>>97796861>crucible characterwhat
>>97796918i managed to make them look less retarded.... i think
>>97796919Crucible of Champions, the supplement that lets you make custom characters like a terminator apothecary.
>>97796904that marine isn't even alpha primus
>>97796849To be good? Probably some dark reapersTo be cool? A falcon or some jetbikes
>>97796702The leak is fake, and hes already the fifth god. Julys white dwarf says that hashut and vashtorr are fighting for the same spot in the pantheon
>>97796953I’m going to rape you and impregnate you with my child
>>97796702The leaker has no idea about the lore. GHR is already a god and he was babbling some shit confusin beastmen and Slaanesh
>>97796874>cool modelsHighly debatable>easy to paintEverything is easy to paint if all you do is spray the whole thing gold>cheapcheapest 40k army is like being the smartest kid in special ed. I'm glad you enjoy things though, anon, hope you have fun.
>painting mini>not really liking how it's turning out>place final extreme highlight shine dot>ahh, that's better
>>97797017its amazing how you really have to trust the process.
>>97796849A mix of aspects is basically mandatory for eldar, particularly reapers, banshees, fire dragons.Storm guardians are ok for sticky objectives
Where can I get the crucible rules leaks? Are they on waha?
>>97796694Someone answer me?
>>97797141that's not a question with a real answersome people enjoy building more or are more efficient with it, a combat patrol isn't something you're expected to complete building in a daythis is a hobby for you to enjoy, that includes building and paintingthere are countless youtubers telling you how to speed up your hobbying to get a game ready army but you need to focus on a pace that you're able to have fun with it or you're just wasting your time, the game is fine but not so mindblowingly good enough that you need to be racing to finish getting your models ready for playing with
>Chaos player>Daemon PrinceENOUGH WITH THIS GENERIC LORD! STOP FUCKING USING HIM ALREADY, I'M TIRED OF SEEING HIM.
>>97797164nah I think I'll use two
>>97796861>"crucible character"
Anybody got a link to the penitence animation?
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
Painting zoanthropes is kinda funny because they seem so "small" due to how skinny they are and their tiny limbs and then you remember they're actually like 20ft tall and their brain alone is bigger than a man
>>97797262I'm still so mad that they made female custodes and then didn't give them titty mail OR giant titplate
>>97797011i like them
>>97797262>mfw they'll never confirm if the female custodes were naked too
>>97797277i have the female custodes box and they have at the very least female waist line
>>97797262if they had to introduce female custodes they should have been made to appeal to musclegirl lovers like myself. simple as
>>97797331We have enough confirmation from that image as is.If the male ones discarded their armor out of shame, the female ones would be as well.
>>97797334I fully agree with that>>97797332Is it even noticeable at game distance?
>>97797346well, if i noticed it during assembly, then it is noticable
FIRST FOR WARBOSS YARRICK!!! WARBOSS OF THE STEEL LEGION WAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGH!!!You KNOW theyre going to get him to lead ALL of the Orkz in the WAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH! against chaos in the final battle. screen shot this.
>>97796800RHODIES didnt enslave them, they did worse, they tried to civilize them. a far crueler fate.
This seems like a giant pain in the ass, since you'd need to track them all separately right?
>>97797383i thought of kitbashing that new ork warboss to be yarrick reborn, before they announced that yarrick was still alive
Do you think other species tell their children scary stories about space vampires and space wolves? You know something like:>"Xenobilly, behave yourself or the space vampire will come and suck your blood"
>>97797390Ork Kommisaaaaarz dressed like Yarrick would be neat.
>>97797384It mostly just boils down to Carter skullfucking them for no reason. Easily one of higher most evil world leaders in recent history.
>>97797459he really was a piece of shit. the entire middle east shitshow of the past 50 years is DIRECTLY his white obama ass fault. I hope he is in hell with his fake christian scam he pulled to get off from being criticized for his incompetence. we should have elected Billy Carter, he had his own beer.
>>97797469He’s probably down there with McCain so that’s something>>97797433I bet even the Salamanders are someone’s horror story in-universe
>>97797473>He’s probably down there with McCain so that’s somethingI hope hes with his buddy jesse jackson the other golden calf who did legalized racketeering and protection scams.
>>97797459Just had a quick read about this situation. Fucking shite. There was so much propaganda back then about it but I was too young to know anything. Fucking Lethal Weapon 3.
>>97797388Yes, especially if an opponent insists that you don’t fast roll.
I continues to by GW stock over the last 15 years and I can now finance my entire plastic addiction out of the dividends I get by owning GW stock.
>>97796861Ah yes, the “Broadside with three guns” meme
>>97797469the middle east quagmire goes back to the original sin of eisenhower helping the shah destroy irainian democracy what most people don't realize is that in the post WWII environment a lot of countries wanted more independence and democratic reforms together with nationalization of natural resourcesThe UK and the US realized that nationalized oil or minerals means less money for their companies, and that democracy means that people could vote in socialists/commies, so the two went on a massive spree of installing pro-west dictators all across the globe. The commies did the exact same thing but with communist dictators in their sphere of influence. But because the interests of these dictators were ultimately about being pro-west or pro commie instead of nationalist, discontent grew and you had a lot of revolutions. In the middle east, you had a ton of people who essentially went 'WE MUST RETVRN TO RELIGION' and used that as a basis to get themselves a popular revolution. The Mujahadeen were religious warriors who were supported by the US for being anti USSR, and the Soviets quickly cosied up to the Iranian islamic regime thanks to the switch from the Shah's pro US stance to the anti-US ayotollah.tldr the middle east shitshow is a reaction to imperialism and religious fundamentalism taking over thanks to oppression
>>97796661kys nasty ass slop poster
>>97797532>In the middle east, you had a ton of people who essentially went 'WE MUST RETVRN TO RELIGION'that was wahabists backed by israel and yes england and USSR backed Shia. it was all part of the great game. the middle east falls into civil war in 7 minutes without a strongman oppressing everyone to keep them from going incestuous clan warfare.
>>97797473>I bet even the Salamanders are someone’s horror story in-universe>*In some Craftworld.*>"Remember, my dear, behave yourself or the Salamanders will come and burn everything you love.">"Okay, Mommy.">"Goodnight, my little one. Don't let the demons of Slaanesh suck your soul.">"Goodnight, Mommy."*In the distance, a Salamander ship approaches.*
>>97796667Him and the Space Wolves are written as massive hypocrites on purpose and it's a big comedy. Hates Sorcery, but employs sorcerers.Hates Mutation/Fleshchange, but employs fleshchanged mutants. Hates unfairness and cruelty, but is unfair and cruel all the time. I hope they bring him back and immediately have him job again.
>>977975413/10
>>97796702Naw, I like him as a demigod, and hopefully they introduce more. The idea that he was on his way to becoming a god, but the Age of Strife, the Great Crusade, or a combination of both crippled him is interesting.
>>97797555an eldarfag wrote this.
>>97797541Just for the Salamander ship to get swallowed into a portal and dumped into Comorragh to kill some Deldar noble too big for his britches before taking 98% casualties and getting dumped back into buttfuck space. Again.>>97797554Have Angron beat him in the salty run back so that Guilliman has to bail him out. It’d be on brand for Russ.
>>97797433>>97797473>>97797541Surely a few xenos children grew up with a specific fetish for these stories.
>>97796853One for the EmperorOne for meOne for the Emperorone for me
The Great Horned Rat is the Hive Mind.Tyranids are erfected Skaven. All the hunger, all the mutations, without the self destructive squabling and schemes.The Great Horned One managed to cull the incompetence and backstabbing of the Skaven, and in turn, removed all personality from itself besides "hungry".
>>97797577There was actually a Drukhari raid that kidnapped a high ranking captain that won the feast of blades just because Lelith heard he was the best swordsman ever and she really wanted to fight him.
>>97797554>but employs sorcerers.It's not sorcery, it's the power granted by Fenris and the All Father.If sisters can get away with 'it's not sorcery, it's "faith"', then space wolf shit isn't sorcery either.Also we know neither of them are psychic shit in-universe as GW has expanded upon them, for worse honestly.For Rune Priests their power comes from the Fenris' world spirit, it's basically the planet's own soul that is granting RP the power.World spirits are a thing, it's what exodite maiden worlds have.And nowadays for sisters their powers are just vague "faith", despite everything surrounding it and its actual origins literally just be warp shit in reality. And we DO know that it is Warp shit because during the 13th black crusade, when Cawl activated the pylons it caused Saint Celestine to lose her powers. We also know how Saint Celestine resurrects. Every time she dies, she has to physically climb a mountain of her own corpses so she can resurrect, and this place is within the Warp.These 2 things alone already prove a psychic connection and proves that there is no such thing as specific "faith" power, and it is and was just Warp shit that the sisters get access to by fervent believers of the Emperor.And more sisters there are around, more concentrated their gestalt psychic field becomes and that allows miracles to happen.This isn't unprecedented in the setting either, because it's exactly the SAME how orks and their belief power works. Like red making shit faster is not a meme, it's real in universe.GW just lazily fucking retconned all of it because they were retarded and shoe horned sisters into Pariah Nexus for no reason. And obviously people then realized, that sister's powers shouldn't even work there at all. Then GW came up with a bullshit reasoning as to why the Null Fields didn't negate their miracles and just went with >umm, it's because of Faith™>yeah, we totally intended this and didn't make this shit up on the spot>pls beliv
>>97797587>and she really wanted to fight him.>Lelith is just the trope "I will only marry the man who can defeat me in a fight" >ffw to now Lelith as 5000 year old hag still not having found one strong enough to beat her
>almost enough bits to kitbash an extra character from corsair skyreavers, just need some extra legs>I have an extra left leg and tactical rock from the swooping hawk kit>No right legGW really does avoid any spare leg sets doesn't it
>>97797587that's not the real story and you know it
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97797601Its the limiting factor. Its what prevents you from building a 6th mini in a 5 minis box. You have additional heads, arms, even torsos, but legs are what makes the unit. And since legs are what people see the leadt in a mini, you wont notice the identical legs in a multi box unit as much, as long as they have different weapons and heads.
>Cadulon is a Captain and former Company Champion of the Iron Knights Chapter. Cadulon rose to the position of Company Champion when his predecessor was killed by a Dark Eldar slaver-queen in battle on the planet of Cystan. Over the centuries that followed, Cadulon became renowned for his swordsmanship and became known as the "Saint of Blades" for his skill at arms and became revered by every Chapter that sent warriors to the ritual Feast of Blades. Three times Cadulon represented his Chapter at the Feast of Blades, winning the first time he entered and narrowly losing the second time. The third time he entered, Cadulon claimed victory for a second time, one of only a handful of Space Marines to do so.>Eventually, Cadulon was promoted to Captain and served with distinction for nearly a century in command of the Iron Knights Fourth Company until 226.M41, when he crossed blades with the Dark Eldar Archon Khargiel on the planet Omeros. With his command squad and his own Company Champion kept busy by the twisted alien’s minions, Cadulon found himself fighting single-handedly against the Archon and a dozen Incubi. Even the "Saint of Blades" could not hold out against so many skilled foes, and he was incapacitated. The last that any of his Battle Brothers saw of Cadulon, he was being carried, still struggling against a dozen captors, into the writhing darkness of a webway portal.>After being taken captive, Cadulon was forced to battle Lelith Hesperax in the Wych arenas of Commorragh. The duel lasted for over six hours before he finally fell, managing to land a cut across Hesperax's midfriff.
>>97797606The only time I've kitbashed extra units has been the harlequins boat kits and troupe kits. The boat kit is dual build so has extra bodies includingg legs spare for the hangers on/gunners of the variant you don't build. Combine with spare troupe arms and you can get a couple of extra clowns out of the sets.
>>97797617>The duel lasted for over six hours before he finally fellWhere's the body? WH40k is like One Piece, if there's no body there's no death.
Do people really believe that the way kits are structured is a requirement for the posing & details of the miniatures?
>>97797652They're like that due to some cad optimization program to fit onto the smallest possible sprue
>>97797646Probably part of a pain engine or grotesque now since that's what they do with corpses in Commorragh
>>97797597Yeah hello this is uh Fenris, can you draw some runes for me?
>>97797666check and kekked
>>97797597ThisRunepriests are druids/shamans
>>97797666Fenris isn't a squid, dumbass. What retard believes Fenris world spirit to be a fucking invertebrate? Obviously it's a giant squirrel.Stupid chaos daemons.
>>97797666Fenris is a giant floating squid demon confirmed.
>>97797675World Spirits are Eldar Exodite technology created by their Psykers. Are you sure that's what Fenris has?
>>97796658>>97796708Wait so the ritual poster has been the queenslander this entire time? Wew lad
>>97797646now he is a sex slave of the dirty Eldar.
Hate Space Wulfs, hate painting white, hate painting black, hate painting metallic, think blood angels are gay, think ultramarines are boringguess I only got salamanders left
>>97796808>I can see imposter syndrome developingI can't, because it's a made up ailment for DEI hires and nepobabies.
>>97797699You could always go chaos. Or branch out of space marines.
>>97797699Blood Angels are Zesty
>>97797699Hey!
>>97797683World spirits aren't technology, they just naturally exist in the galaxy. How they are born, we don't know but they are real.And it's likely that the world spirits are reflection of the planet's natural nature, which would explain why most Imperial planets don't have any. Because vast majority of them are ravaged and destroyed by millenia of polllution, industry and warfare.It also explains why crafworld eldar and exodites are extremely pissed about the Imperium settling their maiden worlds, Imperium doing it inevitably kills the planet and the world spirit within it.Exodites are just one of the few faction who make use of them.Fenris having a world spirit does make sense, it's a death world, a planet type that Imperium usually ignores mostly because the planet is very often actively hostile towards any infrastructure Imperium tries to build, and so can't do much with them besides trying to colonize it, emphazis on the word "try". So Fenris is still in its natural stateAnd 2nd it's a space marine homeworld, a planet that Imperium often just leaves alone and leave the marines in charge of it. And marines often leave the planet environment as is, because they often use the same planet to train their recruits.
Is this too mean of a list to take to a semi casual game?>Iron Hands>Cannok Var>Iron Father Feirros>Captain in Terminator with Steel Font (Ressurect 1 Termie per turn)>2x5 Scouts>1x5 Intercessors>1x10 Heavy Intercessors>2x10 Assault Terminators (THSS)>3x Vindicators
Do we get to keep the same detachments when we roll over into 11e?
>>97797718They said this explicitly in the announcement stream
What the hell is going on with GW's orders and distribution right now? They've had a bunch of fuck-ups in very quick succession.
How do nu-fans cope with the fact that they never were able to play 40k when it was good?
>>97797720Great, although im not keen to play war horde for another few years
>>97797687Which one?
>>97797720>>97797718They say we get to keep all our books (Codexes and 500 Worlds/Maelstrom detachments). Hopefully that means we get to keep all the free digital Detachments too but I don't think they explicitly said that. We are getting 70+ new digital Detachments in June anyway though so I wouldn't sweat it too much.
>>97797722What were considered the golden years of this game? I played during 3rd / 4th and it was ok
>>97797597Sisters can't get away with it. Fuck retard writers for trying to make faith a separate quantity from warp fuckery, just because they have limited imagination. Throughout history magic has just been religion and vice versa.
>>9779772240k was good when you had more time and fewer responsibilities and close friends to hobby with and you were all still learning the game together. That's an experience completely independent of the life of the game and entirely dependent on the life of the player.
>>97797722By having fun playing a game with their friends I imagine.
>>97797725The dude that keeps posting that old broadside over and over again
Damn, Ravener are heavy
>>97797721Uh excuse me outsider tourist nogames no models, you're not suppose to highlight GW's failings or criticize them in anyway here or face death by submersion in nuln oil. how do you plead?
>>97797739Old nuln oil recipe or new one?
>>97797722You can play 2nd edition right now anon
>>97796658when australia runs out of gas this guy isn't going to post here anymore right?
>>97797745given it sounds like they're going to push people to work from home where possible, he'll probably post more I'm afraid
>>97797743I still haven't tried the new one. How it is?
>>97797745Possibly but theres a few of us here so you'll lose a few posters, and that time of day / night where this thread is quiet will be very very dead. I post models and the odd game so I contribute a little bit
What was the difference between the old and new nuln oil? I use the pro acryl black wash so ive never used nuln oil
Will Astral hounds ever return? Or is 40k beyond direct Lovecraft references of his lesser known creatures
>>97796861>crucible characterPeople here saying the Crucible would be some big thing are funny. That shit didn't last a week, nobody gives a fuck about custom stuff, and now GW is sweeping it under the rug.
>>97797767More acidic taste
>>97797777Checked
>>97797717Depends on what semi casual means. Have they played for a little while and possess game knowledge from outside of your table? Then 3 vindicators actually don't take that much anti tank to start stripping down. Are they green players still running a bunch of battle line or flavor units, that don't know what jail means? Then yeah bro you're running termies and 3x one decent shooting vehicle, they either can or can't deal with your durability and in a casual setting that's the end of the game.
>>97797617In 10th Edition, Lelith actually struggles to kill even a generic un-enhanced SM Captain even with her once-per-game ability. I feel like that's more lore accurate than what you posted.
>>97797617>The duel lasted for over six hours Don't think there's any fight that has gone that long with her, in a codex or even BL >managing to land a cut across Hesperax's midfriff.Lame, her whole thing is that her skin is perfect and she has not a single scar, not because deldar have the tech to heal wounds without a scar (they do) but because she has never been cut. Some gladitor games have wyches run across barbed wire and fight atop them, a space marine getting to cut her diminishes and disrespects her character.
>>97797777they've been long spliced with displacer beasts and turned into the dark eldar kymeraealso flesh hounds
>>97797584That's retarded.You're retarded.
>>97797802It's a regular Eldar woman. She shouldn't even be capable to hurting a Marine in the first place, let alone a Captain.
Am drunk. Would youu prefer I post dick or models anonsf
>>97797811why not both
>>97797433I doubt it, space marines are rare, and we don't really have that many accounts of those chapter attacking civilized xenos
>>97796702Vashtorr is cucked out of real godhood by virtue of having an actual (small) model and no sizable range. He'll stay abbadon's arms dealer.But he's going to get close to godhood.
>>97797811Id prefer it if you went to bed. I had a huge one last night and im STILL hungover. Please drink hydralyte or something before you go to bed
>>97797810Elite trained and experienced yet baseline dark eldar > space marines. Incubi leaders have a ritual where they kidnap 4 space marines in full armour and they are given any melee weapon from the chapter they use. Then the Incubi with one arm tied behind his back and a weapon kills all 4 space marines in a spectacle to the rest of the Incubi shrine.When space marines easily defeat dark eldar en masse its imperial plot armour
>Inquisitorial Agents>Rogue Trader Entourage>Imperial Navy Breachers>Arbites Vigilant Squad>Voidsmen-at-ArmsMan, the IA have such awesome models. Why does the faction have to be shit?
>>97797827Retard.
>>97796702Not at all.Vashbore's entirely life goal is to become a chaos god, that's the one thing he wants.If GW gives it to him, his story practically ends there because there's no where else to go realistically.He'll just stay as an eternal jobber vying for godhood just like Belakor.
How likely is it that GW replaces the Chimera and variants with the Centaur?
>>97797827>its imperial plot armourModern audience are so fell to marinewank that anything else makes them angry
>>97797835Not at all.
>>97797835Very high. Panic buy while you can.
>>97797823> no sizable rangeYet
>>97797795Sadly Lelith got a lobotomy between index and codex
>>97797835Does the chimera kit sell?Also, the chimera kit, like the leman russ kit, is used as a basis for other vehicles, so it's gonna take some time to replace it
>>97797810Lelith is a one-of-a-kind autistic woman but instead of her special intrest being trains or something, it's combat
>>97796650So after years of failing to play games I’ve started playing 1k of my IG and I love it, any other anons play 1k games? I feel like getting to 2k is going to be a struggle though, tons of models in the Astra militarum and I don’t want to just tank spam.Any 3rd party guard proxies?Thanks for reading my blog
>>97797852Points have been inflated over the years, which makes the game take much longer, and boards have got smaller while bases have got bigger, and all of that makes the game feel crapped as hell. So yeah, lots of people play 1,000 or 1,500 point games instead.
>The Shrine of Sublime Murder is a Dark Eldar Incubus Shrine.>Within the Shrine, those who would become a Klaivex must fight unarmoured - with one arm tied behind their back - against four giant captives. These include Tyranid Warriors, Go'menka or armoured Space Marines wielding Imperial weapons of their choice
>>97797852Im in another escalation league at my lgs and currently at 1k points. I enjoy it but some armies are hard to deal with, particularly if they bring some fucked unit like a baneblade or ctan
>>97797860Bringing a baneblade or ctan below 2k points is a cunt move
>>97797836>Primary strengths are running away and sneakingNo wonder a handful of Red Corsairs butchered most of his army.>>97797848No amount of training or autism would ever allow for Lelith to beat a Marine. Marines are faster, stronger, tougher, and smarter than Eldar.
>>97797829I particularly like the Inquisitor Agents; it's sprue has a nice quantity of bits to mix and match.I feel like with two sets of these, one could make a nice entourage, and a great Inquisitor.
>>97797872Oh, so you just don't know the lore. Makes sense that a marinefag doesn't understand the setting he pretends to know
>>97797872Not to incubi which, I think, are the strongest of all aspect warriors. But they are lesser to the harlequins who dunk on custodes >>97797858Elite dark eldar (Lilith is 100% in this camp) > the very best space marines
>>97797877>WAH WAH I'M MAD MARINES DOGWALK MY SHITTY XENOS NPCSGrow up.
>>97797866It is, particularly given that these leagues are designed for newer players and players building another army. Ive seen too many primarchs at 1k points too, with DG and WE bring the biggest offenders
>>97797879Incubi are a joke. Pretty sure they showed up in that one Iron Warriors animation just to be gunned down liek the rest of the Dark Eldar.
>>97797866What about a rogal Dorn?
>>97797829If they gave AI some mechanobeasts, enslaved xenos, and Tempestus troops they could become a real faction instead of a squatting retirement home.
>>97797866What if I bring a baneblade bu then only infantry?
>>97797829>Why does the faction have to be shit?Because it's not a real faction let alone and army, and instead it's just 10 or so kill teams in a trench coat.
>>97797891One (1) rogal dorn is fine at 1k or 1.5K points IMO>>97797895Nope, super heavies or primarchs or ctan really should only be played at 2k points or higher
>>97797888There are no Incubi in that animation. Only Kabalite Warriors and Mandrakes and an Archon
>>97797903Just one baneblade, just one, one tiny banebladeCome oooooooooooooon pleaaaaaaaaase
>>97797872Yriel was basically soloing the red corsairs and Lelith almost killed helbrecht>Marines are faster than eldar Lol, lmao even
>>97797829it just got 4th at adepticon, the army isn't waek
>>97797905You're not gonna make any friends if you bring a T13 model to a game under 2k points. Be it on your head. You can play it, just at 2k points.
>>97797906>Yriel was basically soloing the red corsairsIs that why he and his entire army was forced to retreat when a few ragtag Red Corsair squads showed up, and the text specifically says Yriel could only MATCH an Astartes, not surpass?
>>97797872Marines are gay and rape victims. Imagine larping as child predator faction
>>97797913It says he could match THEM, plural, I.E. he was taking out multiple marines
Was there a limit on special / named characters in earlier editions?
>>97797914You just described like at least 2 xenos factions and all of chaos.So I wouldn't pipe up.
>>97797908Were knights involved?
>>97797911My friend plays Death Guard, please understand
>>97797921Before 10th edition there was force organisation, which limited your HQ (characters), heavy support, elites, etc.
>>97797924>meme loreGo back
>>97797921HQ limits and warlord limits used to
>>97797926If your friend is fine with you using a baneblade, then go ahead. But it'll make you a better player not relying on super heavies to win. You could use lascannons, or the trillion smaller tanks that guard has.
>>97797925NoThe Top 4 list is this - CHARACTERSInquisitor (55 points)Inquisitor (55 points)Inquisitor Draxus (75 points)• WarlordRogue Trader Entourage (85 points)Watch Captain Artemis (65 points)Watch Master (110 points)BATTLELINEDeathwatch Kill Team (190 points)Imperial Navy Breachers (90 points)Imperial Navy Breachers (90 points)Imperial Navy Breachers (90 points)Imperial Navy Breachers (90 points)Imperial Rhino (75 points)Imperial Rhino (75 points)Sisters of Battle Immolator (100 points)Sisters of Battle Immolator (100 points)Sanctifiers (100 points)Sanctifiers (100 points)Sisters of Battle Squad (100 points)Sisters of Battle Squad (100 points)Subductor Squad (85 points)Subductor Squad (85 points)Subductor Squad (85 points)
>>97797920Damn, so the best that the Eldar has to offer wielding a literal magic spear can hold out against a handful of the weakest version of a Space Marine barring Scouts.Such an accomplishment.
>>97797934>winI just want to fire man sized shells at traitors
>>97797937I mean the best the eldar has to offer is a naked woman with basic knives for weapons going against the spacemarine who won multiple 'best at close combat' tournaments and said woman was superficially hit exactly once while winning.
>>97797942Plot armor doesn't count.
>>97797941You can do that... at 2k points!!!!!!!!
>>97797932>nah bro my hecking evil alien hybrid cult that expands through forced infection never diddle children>same goes for the evil elves and actual demons that skin people alive for the funsies and turn others into living furniture would never molest a childReally? You are gonna go down this path?
>>97797937Anon space marines go through all that hectic training and gene enhancement just so they can compete beyond the baseline troops of other enemies in the galaxy. Space marines are the nid warriors or aspect warriors of eldar for humanity. They're not meant to be top of the food chain one on one. They work in groups but there are many individuals that are stronger than them one on one. Like fucking Ogyrns
>>97797945>:C
>>97797944Good thing space marines never rely on plot armour.
>>97797959>Like fucking OgyrnsEven in a 1:1 fight against an ogryn, a marine would still win like 9/10 times.Simply because>1. he is more agile and moves faster>2. has better reaction time>3. he is smarter and knows how to use his opponent's size against him>4. has access to better tools and weapons>5. usually has decades if not centuries of fighting experience, while his opponent is at best an actual retard with chromosomal impairment who is at best probably 15 years oldYou could've picked a better example.
>>97797958>In the grim dark future of the 42nd millennium no one has ever been discriminated against on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation
>>97797958I don't think it's practical for GSC to diddle children. First of all, if we are talking about children of the cult then you are psychically enslaved to take care of them the best of your abilities. If instead we are talking about outsiders then they probably just have them kissed so that once they reach maturity they become part of the cult and have hybrid children, which while it works very well as a metaphor for child molestation, it's not literally that.
>>97797959Lelith is a virtually naked woman with two letter openers. Even as an Eldar she's not going to stand up to a Marine.>>97797973It's not plot armor when they're the protagonists of the setting.
>>97797976Okay now compare the actual stats of the TT minis secondary.
When my lgs escalation league moves to 1250 points, would filling my gsc army with a shit tonne of small units be a dick move as ill have 10 resurgence points?
>>97797984She routinely kills space marines and she wears so little and only has two daggers because that's all she needs because she's just that good. She murders a no name space marine without plot armour thats her character. Best duelist fighter in the galaxy is an eldar woman
>>97797984It's a good thing protagonists never have plot armour
>>97797937>the weakest version of a Space MarineFanfiction>Plot armor doesn't count.I guess any conversation about space marines is null then
>>97797980>bro they totally wouldn't diddle them>but they would certainly infect them and then groom themYou're not making this any better.Also, this is entirely side stepping the fact it is CANON that the genestealer's "kiss" basically influences the host to reproduce, a lot.
what is with these stores that sell warhammer but when you check them out they are a jewelry store or thrift store and if you want to see the merch you have to make an appointment with the owner? I can't imagine they are moving much in terms of sales? are they still the stuff online?
>>97797835I think they consider the new models effective replacements in much the same way the rogal dorn is the effective replacement of the leman russwhich is to say, it will be the new normal, but the previous stuff will stick around for god knows how long
Do you think they are going to retire both of the current boyz kits when the new one comes out?
>>97797998>she's just that goodAnd there's the admission of it being bullshit. You can stop now.
>>97797958>dude the primal hive mind entity that only cares about eating would totally diddle infertile children for no reason because it infects fertile adults!>Dude this alien race that universally calls humans monkeys would totally not gag at the site of a human child and diddle them!Can't argue about chaos though
>>97797921A long time ago there was 2 restrictions:1) points limit (this character cannot be taken in armies under X points)2) you had to ask your opponent's permission
>>97798021i got some orks yesterday at gw store (no ork at local) & manager said so
>>97798022Unfortunately space marines have a major skill issue and can't hit Lelith. They're just not good enough at close combat.
>>97798008They've probably just realised that warhammer stuff can give them good margins.I had an uncle who pivoted businesses every year, and sold any old shit if his spreadsheet suggested it was a good idea.
>>97798005I wasn't that anon, and it's s more >They would totally diddle them>It's just that it doesn't benefit them and they are basically all brainwashed slaves, so they probably wouldn't. Grooming and infecting then does so it's fair game. I am not saying it's better, I am just nitpicking about the fact that they wouldn't do it on purely practical reason, not for moral ones.>Also, this is entirely side stepping the fact it is CANON that the genestealer's "kiss" basically influences the host to reproduce, a lot.I explicitly addressed that. I am just assuming that the kids doesn't kick in until puberty and remain dormant until it because it would be strange otherwise, the whole genestealer life cycle is pretty perfected.
>>97797835its too bad proper FW went the way of the dodo before the centaur release, they definitely would have given us several dozen resin alternative turrets and equipment
>>97798022>t. Lorelett
>>97798022cope harder marinefag
>>97798021Yes. It's already strange enough that the old kit survived the stopgap push fit kit.
>>97797802So basically you're just complaining she finally fought someone that wasn't completely shit and managed to give her a slight challenge?
>>97798013moving forward when IG armies/formations are depicted in art or lore you will definitely see massive usage of the centaur (new) over the chimera/taurox (old and busted)
>>97797835were there chimeras in the horus heresy? I can see GW squatting the old guard vehicles if that line adopts them or gets their own.
First time I have been excited for a new kit in a while with the Hippogriff AFV. Rogal Dorn tank still looks like shit, so I know I will have to go to Ebay for it. I like light armour it gets my willy wet
>>97797617>It took the greatest Wych ever six hours to kill a wounded, crippled, and likely debilitated Space Marine
>>97798067Saw yellow and almost got exited
>>97798061the taurox fits in the new family of vehicles thoughbeit
>>97798053>>97798028It's going to be sad when the only way to run green tide is ten monopose boys repeated a bunch of times without even having wargear options (since they all have both now). Not really a problem for people with an old collection but newbies are going to run into it real fast.
>>97798064No looks like they had their own weird transports, FW especially loved forcing people to buy the arvus transport
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>>97798021Probably given the old kits dont have all the shit for the newer loadouts. Man that push fit kit didnt last long did it?
so now that we got 11th edish who will be the antagonist for 12th edish? I say HIVE PURGE salamanders vs. gene stealers.
>>97798084Really don't like how newer vehicles are so lacking in blank plates for freehand. My autism must have me stencil numbers and paint freikorps skull and crossbones as much as possible
>>97798097Chaos.
>>97798091>7 charactersthat certainly is a custodes list
>>97798097orks are the antagonists for the first 3 monthsthen chaos until 12e12e opening will be ultramarines fighting tauthen chaos until 13e
>>97798097i hope for iron hands vs eldar
>>97798084the taurox is like the retarded brother of the family. plus they are old and anyone who wants one already bought them. nobody owns a centaur
>>97798087At least they will be able to pick them up cheap on marketplace and ebay. Im starting to see people sell cheap orks now, mostly models that are confirmed or rumoured to be getting a refresh
>>97798021Yes, grab them while you can
>>97798075it was a marine captain who was one of the best swordsman of his entire chapter lol.
>>97798102had to pump it to those 3k points somehow
>>97798075>wounded, crippled, and likely debilitatedFanfiction Also>in six hours a space marine champion couldn't kill a naked elf doing a strip tease
>>97798097This is a 2e remake, so 12e will be 3e remake. Black Templars vs Dark Eldar.
>>97798097ultramarines vs black legion
>tfw never got around to painting a green tide armyHonestly didnt want to play it anyway, I have back problems and moving hundreds of models around for hours would kill me
>>97798097If they don't fully refresh DEldar this edition (lol) then they're definitely going to do the Black Templar v Dark Templar nostalgia box reference like the last two have been.
>>97798116>Dark Eldar.
>>97798112I didn't even notice it was 3k points, why tf would you play 3k points? That game is gonna take all day.
>>97798116Dark Eldar won't even be an army by the time 12E launches.
>>97798122...do you think Genestealer Cults are less of a meme than Dark Eldar? They're literally the only less popular faction in the game.
GSC bros, theres zero chance of us being in the starter box, let's be real
>>97798129it's the only 40k themed "people laughing" image I had saved
>>97798126for fun. and don't forget that 6 out of 7 characters will be attached to the unit
>>97798122>gscfag nigga no one knows your army even exists
>>97798064>were there chimeras in the horus heresy?No, the Chimera seems to be a post-heresy vehicle, or at least it was adopted and mass produced post-heresy.I think some people represent the "Militia Industrial Rig" unit from the Imperalis Militia Army with a Chimera though it's clearly meant to be a GSC Goliath truck.
>>97797745>when australia runs out of gasthey should make a movie about that
>>97798135yes, but not for the reasons you think
>>9779813967
Hi all.While I still play HH, I do have my old Guard packed away and looked at the codex to see if it's still usable in 40K.All of my Valkyries are converted into Vendettas, which don't seem to be a thing any more?The Vulture Gunships also went bye-bye?My Valkyrie Sky Talon vanished some editions ago, so I'm not surprised that it's still dead.Do they hate Air-Cav so much?
>>97798075>The greatest living Space Marine swordsman in the IF succession family couldn't kill a naked elf
>>97798116>This is a 2e remake, so 12e will be 3e remake.11th Edition -> II Edition -> 2nd Edition They might be doing this because 11 looks similar to a 2 in Roman Numerals, and they can't repeat that joke with 12th so I expect something different.
>>97798135If it makes you feel better GSC have a better chance than any Imperium faction that isn't a space marine
>>97798167>tfw guardfag
>>97798165Okay, but have you considered that 12 is 1 and 2 and 1+2 = 3?
>>97798075>a genetic perfection of mankind, one of the best swordmaster in galaxy couldn't kill elf prostitute
GSC and DEldar won't ever be starter factions because they're not fun to shoot at as Space Marines. Tyranids and Orks are both super fun to kill as Marines. Necrons are a bit of an outlier though the starter box didn't have any of the big offenders.
>>97798182Deldar have already been the starter faction in 3rd edition
>>97797829>AI slop
>>97798182GSC will never be in the box because they're horrible to paintDEldar will never be in a modern box because they're hard to market
>>97798182>they're not fun to shoot at as Space Marines.Yeah they are. T3 and shit saves mean even bolters can kill a few.
>>97798182>shooting a heretic who's also a mutant, who's also an alien, isn't funyou lost sight of what's fun
What if the 12th box is SM vs Dark Mech
>>97798195you mean cogs of vashtorr after he ascends to the 5th chaos god by eating sheogorath in the black library and retroactively makes himself Perty's patron deity
>>97798195Would be cool but hardly anyone plays admech so they wouldn't get to be in the starter box.
>>97798188Tbf my gsc scheme takes very little effort but it doesnt look exciting
will there be new combat patrol boxes for 11th ed or will they stay the same throughout it?
>>97798195won't be, it's gonna be world eaters because they're one of the most marketable, easy and popular concepts and in dire need of a real rangethe fact it's the 12th legion is merely a happy coincidence
>>97798201There better be, the current ork one is rubbish
>>9779820313th Edition box will be Space Marines (Loyalist) vs Space Marines (Independent Ultramar)
what killed the interest in the red corsairs?everyone was shitting themselves over them during the announcement and now no one ever mentions them
>>97798192Eldar/DEldar have never played fairly though to let you just wipe a bunch of T3 bodies. When played properly you just flat out don't get to shoot at them until they've already wiped twice their points of your own units.
>>97798219What else is there to say? They came, they beat up Yriel and the Corsairs, and their plotline resolved.
>>97798219>everyone was shitting themselvesWere they?>Huron looks silly>Not buying a whole squad for random whos>apothecary is nice (locked to squad)>finally 2 new xenos (it's a she lmao)>le girlboss character yet again>shitty upgrade sprue>raiders are okayOnce the honeymoon period wore off the fanboys shut up and there is now only silence.
>>97798219They got busted rules, then immediately nerfed those busted rules and everyone forgot about them.
11th edition should have been guard vs orks and I'm not even a guardfag
>>97798233only if the guard in question were cadians
>>97798221>Eldar/DEldar have never played fairly though to let you just wipe a bunch of T3 bodies. When played properly you just flat out don't get to shoot at them until they've already wiped twice their points of your own units.It's a starter set, they'd have like twenty warriors standing around with no transport.
>>97798075The Wyches have a financial incentive to prolong fights in the arena to draw out the satisfaction for viewers so we can’t assume it took 6 hours purely because of how difficult the fight was or because Lelith was partially toying with him as well.
>>97798238right after the fight lelith goes & kills the archon watching. archons can quite easily kill marines so it was def her fucking w/ cadulon (the marine she kills)
12e box will actually be white scars vs dark eldarit was foretold to me in a vision by the emperor himself
>>97797738>Slither-slasherThat's cute, I didn't know they kept the old Tyranid designations canon this way even for bioforms that didn't exist back when Termagants were called Hunter-Killers.
>>97797732What were your favorite years of the game?>>97797734>completely independent of the life of the gameYou know that's not true. There are a lot of variables, but there have been low points in 40k.
>>97798188Dark Eldar are pretty easy to market they just need more models, it’s their measly range that is off putting to people. They have a great aesthetic and if GW wasn’t scared of sexy female models they could easily lean into that angle with them.
>>97798250shareholders wouldn't be happy with leaning into the sexy aspect of it (please think of the poor shareholders....)
>>97798245I really enjoyed the early 2000s, but thats more for nostalgic reasons as it was just my friends and I playing together
will gw put more SoS in this editions's custodes combat patrol?
>>97798255Lean into the Piracy aspect. People love pirates.
>>97798238>Lelith stopping herself from landing the mortal blow because she needs to make ad revenue
>>97798259Until you learn to love them.
We'll never get a non power armour starter box will we
>>97798265Idgi
>>97798269Fat ass
>>97798269Unga bunga ass big
>>97798267but i do love them. the problem is that their boxset allows me to make 3 types of SoS troops and is quite expensive
Armies that should not exist, and just be lore things:>Adeptus Custodes>Genestealer CultsArmies that should not exist, and not be lore things:>Chaos KnightsArmies that should not exist independently, and be part of another army/detachment for other armies:>Adeptus Mechanicus>Imperial Knights>Imperial Agents>HarlequinsArmies that shouldn't exist, and don't:>Dark Mechanicus>Lost and DamnedArmies that should exist, but don't:>ExoditesArmies that should be part of another army, but don't exist:>Eldar Corsairs
>>97796694Anon, assembly is the easy part...
>>97798278i like my custodian army.
>>97798269and you never will
>>97798250It's a shame that rules wise they're just Craftworlders but worse
>>97798278The only armies that should exist are Space Marines and Orks, everything else is superfluous windowdressing.
>>97798250Debatable. There's always been more to the Dark Elf empires than sexy gladiator women but they haven't really highlighted any of those aspects in 40k in decades. They can't really be the black armored dark lord army from across the seas here because that role belongs to chaos space marines exclusively now.
>>97798268Is that a serious question?
>>97798262corsairs already exist
>>97798284That's been true for most of their history. They used to be the "glass canon" version of Eldar but now that's Eldar and DEldar are just less damage and less speed and even more fragile and not even really that much more hordey. I don't even really know what they do best anymore.
>>97798287they should lean into the mandrake and haemunculi aspect of it more
GSC have a similar image problem but I think conceptually they're even more limited than DE. They don't have any kind of persistent presence within the universe and are very heavily typecast as a Tyranids prologue army and largely just an isolated Imperium problem that occasionally gets played up as being way more prevalent than it actually is.
Man i need to write down my fucking paint recipes for stuff more cause I keep forgetting some of them.
>>97798310Too many primer naps?
>>97798300Those are easily the most interesting parts of their faction and also have been crippled by being mostly resin for like fifteen years so no one could or would buy them even if they wanted them
>>97798295Yeah, Corsairs are the plucky Brotherhood of bandits looking for fun abd adventure. Dark Eldar are their evil rivals who they compete with for booty.
>>97798308That's all they need to be. They don't have to be the face of the rogue's gallery of 40k.
>>97798238>dark eldar TV showing advertising during the fall of cadia
>>97798295Every other faction could be primarily Space Pirates and it'd still be cool and fun. God I love Space Pirates.
finished up nu calgar yesterday.......im happy with how he turned out
can't wait for 11th to not fix the major issues people have with 10th like listbuilding, lethality and wargear costs
>>97798308The codex cults spread faster than they get eaten (that's why they're still in the codex) and have really varied styles. It's just barely represented in the lore, barely represented on the tabletop, not represented in the models, and there's no financial reason to expand.>>97798321>Chaosfag thinks a faction getting more attention means it swallows 40k wholeGee I wonder where you got that idea.>>97798326My problem with the Red Corsairs is that they're never really piratical. They start out as basically revolutionaries and end up as Crimson Slaughter. Night Lords would be much better pirates, just absolute rabble that are juiced up enough to raid powerful targets.
>>97798243*BT vs dark eldars
>>97798144yeah I was gonna do that in 30k, say it's a prototype/progenitor vehicle of the chimera which doesnt have the lasguns
>>97798347>*BT vs dark eldarsBlack paint stocks going up, BUY BUY BUY
>>97798342can't wait for vague doomposting
>>97798344Yeah Red Corsairs can feel kinda redundant but on the plus side you can paint their new models as Night Lord colors if you want them too feel a bit less Chaosy/Batty
>>97798362feel like they'd address those in the stream as they're the biggest complaints
>>97797597“No see you don’t understand, the Emperor rejected the Warp by the end of The Dick and the Butt Volume 3, he can’t be powering the Sisters via magic because that would make him a bad guy”Yeah fuck right off GW.
>>97798265>tfw sculpted a more feminine ass on a 'munda kitbashI won't post it, but I also made her boobs bigger as I needed to fill in a gap
>>97798374>mfw no The Dick and Butt Volume 4Why live
>>97797597>World spirits are a thing, it's what exodite maiden worlds have.Yeah, and its sorcery. Wolffags are really leaning into the larping by being as hypocritical as their furfaction.
>>97798285if we had to reduce 40k to only two factions, speaking in terms of narratives, themes and potential for minis, it would have to be genecults and the inquisition.genecults allow aliens, traitorous humans, blasphemous cultists, mutant creatures of all sorts, and haphazard equipment of any kind from repurposed military equipment to mad max vehicles.meanwhile the inquisition would also encapsulate everything about the imperium, from the hypocritical use of forbidden technologies to the dogmatic zealous warriors in power armor, enlisted soldiers and press-ganged punks.Everything about the imperium would be preserved and represented, and all elements of the classic 40k narratives would be mantained, from the threat within to the distant looming foe.If we have to talk just about the miniatures that exist and the popularity of the ranges as they are, then yes marines and orks would have to be it, but 40k wouldn't stand up.
>>97798387Did anyone ever notice?
>>97798278Some okay takes mixed with shit takes
>97798390That's good bait.
>>97798390(You)
>>97798390based
>>97798391Not yet. All of my munda dudes are converted so I guess they just assume it's from some other kit
Are GSCfags slowly taking the title of most obnoxious fanbase away from DEfags?
>>97798353>citadeluhhh it's warhammer colour now
>>97798390>If there was only 2 factions it should be GSC and inquisition
>>97798353best paint in the citadel range btw
>>97798408Im not partaking in this discussion and I play gsc, we aren't all that bad
>>97798418What makes it better than Black Templar?
>>97798408>most obnoxious fanbaseThat will always be Eldarfags.
>>97798432marinepigs*
>>97798408No one of them can outbeat marinefags in being obnoxious
>>97798432>eldarfag exists>OMG YOU ARE ALL WHINY BITCHES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESure bud
>>97798408I suggested inquisition and genecults, or marines and orks, despite collecting neither, it's not a matter of factionism, I just think they are sufficient microcosms of everything 40k is built on.
>>97798432>Marinefaga constantly bitching about eldarfags>eldarfags barely exist >All the general lol cows are marinefagsReally activates the almonds
>>97798457Chaos can do everything GSC does
>>97798481not the movie alien, no
>>97798489A more (or less, depending on your opinion on demon representation) creative approach to Daemons easily could.
>>97798408>DEfagsWhat the hell did I do?
>>97798436>>97798441>>97798479Go back to stewing in your inadequacy.
IG vs Traitor Guard would be a great starter. It would do great things with the fanbase as a whole. We need more gritty, low stakes conflicts with no-name commanders. GSC vs infantry Tau on a mining world? Great starter as well.
>>97798497Sorry, I just don't think demons can replace aliens no matter the reskin, it's not the same.
>>97798513Cadians vs Cadians (forma spiky)yawn...
>>97798513These sound like ideas for boxsets outside of starters, like they used to do before 10th
>>97798514>Sorry, I just don't think demons can replace aliens no matter the reskin, it's not the same.What you think changes little, anon.
>>97798517Sounds great. Mabye you should turn on the Sunday morning cartoons? I bet it's more up your alley
>Eldarfags gets mentioned>The thread instantly goes to shitThey really are the kings of shitposting.
>>97798526Sunday is the Lord's day.
>>97798535He*It's one (Decalloving, Double Lightning Bolt adoring, Shit Paintjob Flashing) boy doing this.
Should heraldry on a marine mirror each other like A or should it stay the same direction on both shoulders like B?
>>97798313Nah i just take months to paint 1 model and by the end id forgotten how i painted the bricks on the ground for example.
so are orks finally gonna get a good boyz kit?
>>97798479Ben was a guardfag thoughbeit
>>97798549There was nothing wrong with the one before the push fit bullshit
>>97798523It does change things, I'm an example of the way people think, people don't react the same to a demon popping out of a dude the same way they react to an alien popping out of a dude, there are very different spheres of influence guiding the understanding and reading of the two things even when they can be virtually the same.An alien will forever be a very different beast to a demon, especially in 40k. And so if you want chaos to truly be able to do everything the genecults can do, you would have to "cheat" and give them chaos-marked alien creatures under their use, but the problem with that is that you're making the galaxy feel an awfully lot smaller if everything that happens in it is down to the very anthropocentric chaos, even aliens.
>>97798544Either A or C (heraldry on the left shoulder except on Termies where it's mirrored on the right)
>>97798549No, it's going to be monopose as hell.
>>97798554>It does change things,It does not.
>>97798553Yeah, it's also compatible with the WFB stuff.
>>97798549No, it's not going to be modular or have options and they're going to have small hands and forearms, we missed the best timeline by a few years.
>>97798553>nothing wrongsure. okay
>>97798567Dayum
>>97798544If it's an animal it should always be facing the front, towards the enemy. If it's some other symbol it should maintain a constant bearing.
>>97798567Zzamn! He shits with that ass?
none of the marine players I know want the box because it's just stuff they've already kitbashed (JPIs into VanVets and Jump Chaplain)did GW fuck up?
>>97798567>That git is tossin a 'nade! Throw it back!>Aye Aye 'Boss
>>97798554>An alien will forever be a very different beast to a demonNot really. In real life there are people who are convinced that aliens are demons or that demons are aliens.
>>97798567Literal perfect.
Just had prices confirmed for defiler and battalion boxes.The knight box is definitely a good deal for starting a knights army!
>>97798577>did GW fuck up?it depends on whether they've correctly gauged the demand and production, I don't think they did, so it's going to hit them back in the head at the first of one of these errors >11th rules are ass>the box is overpriced >they're not finishing astartes 2 in time to generate hype amongst normies>they've finished astartes 2 in time, but it's a clunky piece of shit animation
>>97798567ALLORKSARE BREEDABLE
>>97798588they shift the names, but not their guiding spheres of references the ones who say aliens are demons just replace the sphere of concepts of aliens with the ones of demons
>>97798577I think it will be a great box for attracting some fresh blood into the hobby. Chances are your friends aren't the intended audience. Normal ass marines fighting Orks isn't a bad starter
>>97798432>marinefags exist
>>97798567lord forgive me for what I'm about to do...
>>97798536Does this sort of scenario happen in other franchises besides 40k? I'm not sure if Glup Shitto counts for covering this kind of thing.
>>97798577marinepigs will buy whatever slop is given to them, don't worry.BAfags are desperate after their defresh in 10e
>>97798567You wouldn't get it
>>97798606>they shift the names, but not their guiding spheres of referencesThey do though. Ancient astronauts as gods, unknowable horrors from beyond time and space. It all blends together
>>97798567Yep, nothing wrong.
Collage entry. A bunch of guys with all sorts of big sticks.
>>97798570>If it's an animal it should always be facing the frontAh shit I fucked up all my legionaries then
Autism week
>>97798408I think that's been demonstrated to clearly be Guard over the last couple weeks
>>97798640finally I'm being represented
>>97798636It just means your marines are confirmed cowards.
>>97798567You do know the new orks also have that, right? That's just how warhammer orks look.
>>97798631No, you don't understand, when the ancient aliens people say this or that god was an alien, they don't attribute divine qualities to it, they wash away the divine traits as a misunderstanding and replace the entire framework with technology.The two spheres of concepts of sci fi aliens and mystical/divine/magical things don't actually blend, they replace one with the other and keep the label.
>>97798640I wish they'd have their artists actually finish their art.
>>97798648:(
>>97797652Depends on the kit, really. In the case of Krieg, they need to be more rigid so that the gasmask tubes can attach to the chest properly.
When can we get the new red terror?
>>97798650Barely.
>>97798657in like 4 month in a time window of 3 minutes
>>97798640Do we know what the new apocalypse rules look like? Seeing they'll be compatible with 11th to I'm interested.
...do they know?
>>97798553>>97798567Putting aside the question of "should Orks have the posture of a gorilla?", the actual problem with the old kit is that the molds are fucking ancient and at this point have pretty severe slipping problems. If GW still had their original masters to create new molds from, then I'd take that option, but I doubt they do.
>>97798651>when the ancient aliens people say this or that god was an alien, they don't attribute divine qualities to it, they wash away the divine traits as a misunderstandingThat can be the case, but you'll find if you interact with people that it's usually not the case. You're describing a Star Trek episode, whereas most believers will believe something like that these aliens come from a higher, better dimension and have cool magic powers.>The two spheres of concepts of sci fi aliens and mystical/divine/magical things don't actually blendThey blend completely when the concepts and technology become advanced enough. Think of Lovecraftian type works.
College entry, finally finished this blood herald. Im happy with how the blood canisters turned out, I was really worried they'd look bad but I think I got them nicely done. Being able to only paint 1 day out of the week really sucks. I miss having free time.
>>97798657very soon, they make a box roughly every 3 months and the last one released quite some time ago
>>97798549Seeing they merged both loadouts, which mind you I don't mind from a rules perspective, it's probably gonna be another ETB monopose kit with zero options to not have a horde of 10 clones.
>>97798674that's the new age stuff, a whole other packaged deal
>>97798510I accept your concession
>>97798685That's most of the current thinking on aliens if people have a positive view of them.If they're more firmly Chrisitian and believe in aliens, they'll be more inclined to view them as demons.
>>97798656More "rigid"?
I'm debating teal necrons with orange energy.Overall the more I mull on it the less green energy interests me, unless I make it sickly and yellowish.
>>97797858Im sure captives in a dark eldar shit pit ate going to be in tip top fighting condition
>>97798720They probably give them Eversor level of combat drugs.
>>97798710In the sense that while the krieg models still have fully interchangeable arms, they can't have ball socket heads like pretty much every other kit because the hoses need to attach to a specific body in a specifuc way. Would be different if they somehow managed to make them out of rubber or some other flexible material but with hard plastic that's it. Same goes for any kit that wants to have decent looking cloaks. They need to go over the arms which means the arm posts have to be locked.
>>97798731I thought you meant that the way Dreir was cut was normal. Krieger heads are weird but it's only a mild hassle. Really hope they put the KT sprue back in the store
Hoping catachan gets a decent update in 11th and combat patrol is at least 1/4 of decent as spearhead so I can finally give 40k a try
>>97798747>combat patrol>spearhead Great, systems with zero customizable options. Sounds like fun! What a great way of introducing new players to the game.
>>97798747>nipples visibleSOVL
>>97798768Shut your no games ass up.
>>97798714Sounds kinda ugly desu senpai
>>97798663Have they shown nothing about this??
>>97798768Completely fixed loadouts is the singular reason why I'll never play with combat patrol rules.
I hope we get a new Pedro Kantor model in 11th
>>97798780Am I wrong?
>>97798797ENTER
>>97798714if you have other bright colours on the models you don't necessarily need the "energy" parts to be spot colours, especially now that the rods are all but gone, they can be more conventional metal, they can be more of the tealif you want an unused gimmick you could grab some vantablack or black3.0 paint and make them into miniature black holes, completely devoid of color or reflectivity except for some thin red/orange/yellow brightness at the edges of the balls and bladesbut it takes some more attention and would probably require you to not paint other parts black
>>97798797he's already leaked as the 40th anni model
>>97798822hell yeah
How should I paint my Chaos Knights? Does anyone have Chaos Knights here? If so, post them!
>>97798834Gold trim and black surfaces and cover it with dirt and cum.
TAKE IT, TAKE IT AAAAALLLL
>>97798834
>>97798834Old reliable: red, black, and gold. The red being more of a wine red is my only tweak or twist towards originality, but even that's more of a tie in to my Word Bearers.
>>97798834green and purple
>>97798853Even before this trailer I didn't have a particularly high opinion of bangels.
>>97798853The trailer would have been good if it focused on the orks narrating the story instead of stupid space marines
>>97798834niggers and women
>>97798803Yes
>>97798536Eldar got two whole range refreshes this edition, is your meme supposed to be about Dark Eldar?
>>97798868Part of me still copes about the trailer thinking they must have cut it to reveal some other sections of it when they announce the other models.
>>97798768say the line d-fag
>>97798868wow it's a really good thing you don't have creative control over anything whatsoever
SEX WITH JAIN ZAR
>>97798877People treat them as the same faction all the time anyway, including GW.
I'm confused, can dark eldar take clowns outside of reaper's wager? And can they take corsairs?
>>97798903No.
>>97798868Marinewank exists at the detriment to everything. Including other marines.
>>97798868>Zogging goggin waaaagh krump ladzwow truly edition seller
>>97798903Yes and Yes
>>97798915Thanks
>>97798813Why do they keep making him gravis? It fucking sucks.
>>97798913Unironically better than gay vampire angst. Especially when we already got fucking yarricks commentary that was better.
>>97798924trying too hard
>>97798874How?
>>97798913>>Zogging goggin waaaagh krump ladz>wow truly edition sellerunironically yes
>>97798924>Unironically better than gay vampire angst.>>97798930Incorrect. Space Marines make this game, they are what sells. Sit down, and be grateful.
>>97798927Yeah you kinda summed up my reaction to the trailer.
>>97798930you might be retarded
>new edition >zero hype 10th really fucked up big time, eh?
>>97798951We know literally nothing about it other than it's not an Index edition and melee MIGHT be better this time.
>>97798951We've hit marine fatigue, people thought it couldn't be possible, but it happened.
>>97798954People were hyped for 8th, 9th and 10th
>>97798951Give it time. But the trailer is definitely a fucking dud compared to the last two. And showing off a basic Primaris Intercessor with a new hat was very stupid
>>97798938>appeal to stakeholdersThis is such a gay fallacy that I'm going to call it a phallus-y.
>>97798958ThisLiterally the only thing the trailer actuallly showed off as new was the Ork walkerLast edition had the Neurotyrant, Screamer Killer, and Winged Prime.
>>97798951I don't think so. Most people seem to like 10e, but not love it. Hearing 11e is going to tweak it is leading to mild optimism. Then there's the fact that new editions have become reliable enough to set your watch by, people have known this was coming since the start of 10e.
>>97798938>Space Marines make this gamewhich is why you're in /40kg/ and not /hhg/oh wait
I love the falcon but jesus christ the absolute fucking STATE of the moulds. They need to retool it
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/avczirqt/sunday-preview-into-the-eye-of-terror/Buy Knights you sons of rascals
>>97798951It's literally edition 10.5, it should barely count as a new edition.Everyone will keep using their old codices, meaning that the rules changes must be minor enough to allow for that and that anyone with a shitty codex (Most factions) will be stuck with it.
>>97798969There were also people poring over every frame to better identify what would later be revealed to be neurogaunts and psychophages.This trailer? nothing, people don't care.
>>97798976I might start a knight army later but right now I'm focused on orks.
>>97798976>groundbreaking new edition of Warhammer 40,000, with more information and another miniature reveal coming.So the Alpha Legion character is getting revealed tomorrow then
>>97798985>>N-no we're just as important as space marines!Wrong, more important: the game with other factions is massively more popular than the game focusing on marines.
>>97798653
>>97798976WORD BEARERS head?!Thank you GW, I'll take my wretched scraps.
>>97798976This model doesn’t even look like it can be glued to the base. This thing is a giant piece of shit.
Who else here is trying to get through their backlogs before 11 launches? Here's what I got on my plate to do before JuneStill on the Sprue>Pretty much everything except the Obliterators/Venomcrawler from the Hellforged Warband battleforce (Been holding off on it mostly in wait for when the IW stuff releases). >A 4th Leman Russ >Armigers #5 & 6>20 Jakhals from last year's Battleforce that I'm too lazy to build (Built the rest of the box already)>A buncha Combat Patrol magazine issues (Mostly the CSM and Ork stuff)Assembled and waiting for priming>A Baneblade and a Chimera>A buncha Eldar stuffPrimed and ready for painting>A buncha Salamanders stuff>A buncha World Eaters stuffWorking on some Jakhals and Berserkers at the moment. My current plan is to plow through all the World Eaters models I've got primed first and then probably build the remaining Jakhals next, then the Russ and then the CSM stuff. I'm probably gonna buy one or two of the IW upgrade sprues when they drop and hold off on buying more until 11th drops Though I can see myself getting the Guard box with the new vehicles too.
>>97798976Need an upgrade kit like that for my NL
>>97799012I don't get why it even needs a base? It can stand on its own, just like the old one.
>>97799006weird of them to not showcase those other options
>>97799024Current GW is opposed to the concept of baseless models
>>97799012your tactical rocks, anon, they're here for a reason
>>97799016Yeah, I've been doing steady progress. Apparently, the key to being able to do stuff instead of shitposting all day and postponing everything is to have other aspects of your life under control
>>97799031Good.Tanks should use bases too.
>>97799016Me too, though I still need to know if a bunch of it is even gonna be legal come 11th. I have>2 tacticals squads>4 devastator squads (lascannons, missile launchers, multimeltas and plasma cannons)>a whirlwind>10 terminators>10 assault terminators>1 land raider>5 jump pack assault marines>10 scouts>5 boxnoughts>a bunch of charactersI'm probably not gonna make it and GW is gonna squat half of it.
>>97798853https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzV4QHiTNbo
>>97799031Every new tank comes without a base though? Except GSC for some reason.
>>97798768first thing i tried was a spearhead game
>>97798976>140€No GW
>>97799016I've got most of my necron army built, but none of them primed. 11th barely even looks like an edition, so my interest in squeezing in a game before 10th ends has almost vaporized.
>>97798978>Everyone will keep using their old codices, meaning that the rules changes must be minor enough to allow for thatIs this your first edition change?
>>97798951>New edition trailer>It is 2 hours of Imperial Guard drops across various systems>Marine starter set isn't new and exciting units, it's headswaps and everyone who cares has already done them>Orks are a minor army and are getting boyz kit number 25the only people who give a shit about 11th are guardfags, orkfags and super casual marinefags who care enough to want mk 7/8 helms but not enough to actually kitbash them
is it legal for gw to put non ugly sororita on a cover?
>>97799065fatima was cute
I know that a new edition is coming and starting the game for the first time is probably not smart, but I want to learn the game at least a bit to not be a 100% noob in new edition. Now from the models I own this is what I thought as core of my army. 20 hellblasters, 4x5 units of intercessors with fist onf sgt. 6 blade guard and as the fast element 2x6 outrideers. I have one of each regular heros in power armour, chaplain,capitan, librarian, apothecary and ancient. What should I buy next.
>>97799016Me, Ive got like 20 kriegers, an artillery team, 2 FOBs, a bunch of cadians, just for guard.And I just commited to the new knights box, so thats a knight and 2 armigers...
>>97798623Any competitive game where factions compete for attention. Class-based video games have it too.
>>97798671KWAB
>>97798976>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/avczirqt/sunday-preview-into-the-eye-of-terror/>It has... four regular Chaos Space Marine heads, one head each for the Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Emperor's Children, and Death GuardIs this implying that the Iron Warriors and Word Bearers are not regular Chaos Space Marines? IS THIS FUTURE PROOFING FOR CODEX IRON WARRIORS AND CODEX WORD BEARERS?PERTURABO AND LORGAR RETURNING IN 11E CONFIRMED.
>>97798951>>97798955>>97798957>>97798958>>97798969>>97798980>>>/v/
>>97799076You seem like you got a lot of characters, a lot of general shooting, and fast attack. Next thing you should probably get is some kind of heavy support unit like a Dreadnought or a Repulsor, maybe some Terminators.
>>97799076Have you considered the upcoming battalion?2 Dreads, 2 repulsors.
>>97799089The IW head is because it's releasing alongside the IW themed CSM wave. The Word Bearers head though bears some interest.
>>97799096It is a bit too expensive for me. But I will use this as a guide that I need tanks and dreadnoughts.>>97799095which terminators are best. I have 15 tactical terminators, but I never painted them, because everyone said that terminators are not worth taking. I must say I have been collecting my army since the Dark Angelus army book came out. With the advice mentioning vehicles and dreadnoughts, I assumes dreadnoughts and vehicles are crucial to playing space marines.
>>97799089There should be no doubt that with their Primarchs returning. IW and WB will have their own codexes.
>>97798541Fuck off, ape.
>>97799031So am I. I'm not painting shit just so that it can get scraped up. I don't like touching the models proper even after I varnish.
>>97798853So that's what the face reminded me of
>>97799120>IW have bases because IW players are autisticNow it makes sense.
>>97799123215 euro. 12 months of saving up. brutal.
>>97799128I play Flawless Host but okay
Are regular tanks like predators, okey to get, instead of the more expensive repulsors ? the predators are much cheaper and their recasts come in plastic. I could get one each one and have 3 for next edition. repulsors for some reasons are super expensive. I don't like the idea of 6 months saving to buy one.
>>97799093that's where marines come from, anon
>>97799123>defiler is SEVENTY EIGHT PERCENT MORE THAN THE OLD MODELholy fuck, anyone who buys this shit should have paypig branded on their foreheads, this is more than FW prices at this point
>>97799148>recasts come in plasticBig doubt
>>977991535$ from temu. three types of turret and two types side weapons.
>>97799123Can someone convert this to American dollars
>>97799162before or after orange man tax
>>97799152>twice as cool>comes with a nice base>has way more customisation options for the 5 armies it can be played in>isnt 20 years oldJust play your old one if youre poor.
>>97799148Old marine sculpts are in the dangerzone of getting squatted
>>97799165After. Man I can’t believe the economy got worse AFTER Biden here
>>97799162215 Euro is about $250, but because of the tariffs, it'll be about $285
>>97799123>115EXCUSE ME?
>>97799149based retard
That didn't take long
>>97799148Predator and Vindicator are going to legends next edition
>>97799123"Profanador" is a pretty cool name.
>>97799180What am I looking at?
>>97799180>under $20 for a squad of guardsmen How come you don't see anyone using those guys as Cadian?
>>97799187Chang offering recasts of the new red corsair stuff
>>97799123>Admech got a better deal than Hijos de DornSad.
>>97799174>>97799130you know that LFGS offer discounts?
>>97799065How's that ugly?
>>97799180Yeah I hope they get the defiler in when it drops too because I'm not fucking paying GW prices for that thing
>>97799180It’ll take 6 months for it to get shipped
>>97799187Some recaster site, presumably.
>>97799189guardfags are allergic to conversions, proxies or creativity and those are recasts, so you can get cadians for a similarly lowered cost
>>97799073She was too cute for 40k
>>97799197i said non ugly anon.
>>97799169Nah. GW knows people prefer them to the grav tanks. They are even bringing back the classic speeder. This is the time where they finally let primaris ride rhinos.
>>97799196Even 15% off of that price would be disagreeable.
>>97799203With those guys I usually get my stuff within 14 weeks of my order (yurop)
>>97799189The trick is that they come as a big bag of bits that takes hours to sort through.
>>97799209Ah I thought you meant the opposite.
>>97799215I usually get mine within 2 weeks
>>97799057>Orks are a minor armyAs opposed to what? Tyranids and Necrons? They were more popular than both before they got starter boxes and are a more prevalent Galactic threat than either too.
>>97799162Going off similarly priced items on the EU (Spanish) webpage then looking at said item on the US page, it'll most likely be this>Defiler - $145>Kravek Morne - $47>Mutilators - $69>Knight Destier - ~$180 (For the life of me I couldn't find a model that costs 140 euros on the webpage so I'm just spitballing that it'd be slightly less than a Questoris Knight at 150)>Thulia Ghuld - $65>Hastari - $60
>BOLTERS ARE BACK!>look inside>bolt riflesWhat did they mean by this?
Any books about Chaos warband subfactions?Basically the MCs are Chaos, takes place in 40k but aren't these factions:>Black Legion>World Eaters>Thousand Sons>Death Guard>Emperor's Children>Word Bearers>Iron Warriors>Night Lords>Red Corsairs
>>97799182Sorry for a potential stupid question. "Legends" means something like rotate out ? And a related question does that mean that warhammer has sesons and models rotate out?
>>97799194>>97799204Damn that was fast
>>97799269Legends are pity rules for units that they no longer sell which aren't updated, aren't balanced and are at risk of being completely gone on a whim.
Why do so many youtubers try and frame Gunpla being "cheaper" than 40k?Even if the models themselves are cheaper in terms of quantity of plastic for the price, in my experience it's actually the more expensive hobby of the two because everything EXCEPT the models is so much more expensive. You can spend the cost of one or two full 40k armies on just tools if you're even remotely serious about the hobby.
>>97799196not in my country. with 24% VAT and importat tax, and an extremly wierd conversion rate it somehow ends up costing around or more, then what it costs in GW stores(which we don't have).
>>97799277>youtubers
>>97799279>with 24% VATPoland?
>>97799276ah, so like can't use in any for of sanctioned play and probably in regular games, people tell you to fuk off if you try to use them. Well it would have been too good, if I could get tanks at an acceptable price. Guess it is 6 months to save for a repulsor.
>>97799277>in my experience it's actually the more expensive hobby of the two because everything EXCEPT the models is so much more expensive
>>97799257They are a broken discThey did the same with indomitus and then leviathan>hey, look, chainswords are BACK!>hey, look, terminators are BACK!They took everything away from marines and have been selling them back the same stuff piece by piece and the pigs are still eating it up.
>>97799196Not everyone has a local game store
>>97799283estonia. I think Poland has 23% VAT.
>>97799290GW is out here trying to sell you a nostalgic framed pic of your granny while at the same time they are taking her out to the backyard and shooting her in the head. That's not how nostalgia works, James.
>>97799269Legends are old units that are gone from official play but that you can still bring in casual games as long as your opponent is aware of it. The sheets are available for free on the download page of the community website.
Does anyone know if more pages of this comic by James Stokoe exist?
>>97799300>Poland has 23% VATThat is correct
>>97799287Mind you I doubt those tanks will be going to legends as they are still widely used, sell just fine and none of the new tanks are actual replacements for their niches, especially the vindicator. Legends rules are completely fine for casual play, be it at home or in a game club, they are just usually terribly balanced so more often than not it's not worth it. The only place they are banned is in official tournaments but chances are you won't be going to those anyways. And this is only for 40k, in 30k the legacies rules (the equivalent to legends) is completely legal everywhere. With the new edition taking a more narrative approach and not segregating the modes of play, legends might be legal everywhere aswell.
>>97799289Nip and chink lacquer paints cost 3x more than western acrylics due to all the hassle of shipping flammable goods across the worldPlus since you're painting individual models rather than armies with relatively uniform paint schemes you get less mileage out of individual colors and probably have to buy a shit ton of additional paint for every model you getAnd, again, the quantity of tools you need because Gunpla is mostly a craft hobby, not a painting hobby You can easily drop hundreds on just scribing chisels in various sizes which are one of the most basic tools in the hobby
>>97799016Same here, i want to paint a few orks but trying to avoid the units that are getting a refresh. Id like to finish the following>ghaz (half built)>beastboss>another beast snagga unit>mozrog>tankbustas>breakas>maybe a 3rd trukk>a kill rigAt the same time im trying my best to get through a gsc list too, which ill need to either finish building, paint or strip the following>3 ridgerunners>10 gargoyles >10 metamorphs>5 man purestrains>biophagus>atalan jackals>aberrants + abominantThe only way i could finish all of that is if i lose my job tomorrow and just paint full time until 11e is released, and then ill have a fuck tonne more orks to paint
>>97799257it means that, after a long hiatus, we're finally getting a new space marine release
>>97799290But at least with chainswords and terminators they actually brought them back. They aren't bringing actual boltguns back, we are still stuck with bolt rifles so I don't get what's the play here. Bolt rifles should be exclusive to sternguard IMO.
>>97799322yeah. thanks. maybe I will get the predators or vindicators. maybe one of each. I worry about, probably notice too late. I have been building my army for 2 years. Still don't have a full 2000pt army. I don't want to buy 500-800pts and then find out that in 3 months those are no longer playable no questions asked. At least I expect everything from the last 3 starter sets to not be made illegal.
>>97799322100% manlet cope
>>97799123Man us aus bros are gonna get JUSTed beyond belief. Interested to see how much ill have to fork out for the red terror
>>97799358Can't you guys just work in a mine for half a year?
>>97799358I wonder if the 11th ed box is going to cost more, then the 3ed HH. we don't have any orc players localy, so buying the box in full would be very expensive.
>>97799367they can, but they also have like 70% taxes post tax accumulation.
>>97799358Mind you these are insane prices for the average spanish wage. Folks out there in ireland or germany pulling 3k a month while we're stuck with half of that.
>>97799378Same in estonia. Unless you work in IT or for a foreign company, a 250-300 euro box on a 1600 euro salary is a bit much.
>>97799367Could do but id fail the drug test
>>97799403I make 4.5k a month and most of that goes to my mortgage and basic upkeep, in the end the amount of disposable income is not that different. It's always relative to cost of living.
>>97799378just buy less. I've never understood why people buy so much shit that just lands on their pos. I earn plenty but I get maybe 1 kit a month for 30-50ish euros, which is plenty for me to work on for the entire month. If you want to get that big set, just don't buy anything else in the next 10 months and you're golden. It's really not that hard.
>>97799419Anon with all due respect, the average rent here is higher than the average wage. There's no disposable income.
>>97799277>>97799277The fuck are you on about.I was building and painting Gunpla as a hobby for over a decade before I jumped back into 40K a few years ago, and aside from a few more drill bits for pinning/magnetizing stuff the same the cost of tools are pretty much the same>Nip and chink lacquer paints cost 3x more than western acrylics due to all the hassle of shipping flammable goods across the worldEvery major Japanese brand already has a distributor in the US already (Mr Hobby and Tamiya primarily, you can find them at Hobbytown USA and other local hobby shops). You don't NEED Gaianotes and shit to paint Gunpla. And don't even try to use "Oh you need to buy an airbrush and a compressor too!" as an excuse you can use those for GW models too.>Plus since you're painting individual models rather than armies with relatively uniform paint schemes you get less mileage out of individual colors and probably have to buy a shit ton of additional paint for every model you getIf you're airbrushing you can get away with certain colors by mixing together colors you already have. And besides, it's not like most Gundams don't use the same Tri-Color + White colorscheme in the first place with subtle changes to the shades of the colors.>And, again, the quantity of tools you need because Gunpla is mostly a craft hobby, not a painting hobby It's literally the same tools as 40k or any other modeling hobby. It's only the top 5% of hobby autists aiming for GBWC that actually chisel their own panel lines and go balls in. People say Gunpla models are cheaper because they simply are. Why would someone completely new to both hobbies choose to buy an almost $200 Questoris Knight that has very limited posing options and comes in all-grey plastic when they could buy a $50 Master Grade kit that's just as big with full articulation and all the parts molded in the right colors out of the box.
>>97799431Oh I do buy less. I might get a couple of boxes a year plus the odd big box like a starter if I actually want the models. But even then it's hard to spend that kind of money.
>>97799419yeah. in eastern europe most of the stuff you make goes for food, tax, rent , loan (if you tried to buy a flat) etc "no one" has any savings. I have an okey job. Stable, I should be able to buy something. But I dread shoes breaking, a coat getting damaged, a dentist visit etc. Like I cracked a tooth and it destroyed my hobby money for 6 months. And I don't even have kids or sick parents.
>>97799123Yeah okay I think I'm gonna continue using my old defiler and soul grinder
I think the limit on stratagems is nice but I'd rather stratagems just stop existing.
>>97799437>picrelthis is retarded and I LOVE IT
>>97799173can't wait to pay 400CAD because otherwise a bunch of americans would cross the border and buy up all our stock for free haha
>>97799435Talin avarge rent 650-700euro. median income 1600 euro. 900 euro for food, electricity, trash pick up, medication, gas etc
>>97799431>I earn plenty but I get maybe 1 kit a month for 30-50ish eurosSame, I feel like this is the smart thing to do. After the admittedly high initial cost this hobby really isn't that expensive if you don't hoard plastic.
>>97798859Which blue is that on the shoulderplate and legplate? Looks really nice.
>>97799459This.I'd allow the old "pay 150 points for off-table artillery" but fuck your CPs
>>97799437is that mud or burns on the thighs
>>97799459What did they change it to? One per phase?
>>97799152I mean its like twice the fucking size and model complexity. The new defiler is on par with the forge world knights for tons of bits and size. Don't underestimate how fucking big it actually is. It's basically a chaos knight.
>>97799487no stratagem stacking on unitsi.e. no AoC + Smoke
>>97799463Thanks>>97799480It's mud, he can get into a crouched position for firing
>>97799487>Single units can no longer have multiple stratagems stacked on them in a phase. Already powerful units will now have to cause havoc on their own without the crutch of stratagems making them punch harder than they should, or making them more survivable than they have any right to be.
>>97798924based and factual
>>97799477DESU just having ON TABLE artillery was annoying enough. While it can be fluffy, off table artillery is usually REALLY NOT FUN for the actual gameplay of the game.Even with old artillery rules where it can bounce and miss and cause all kinds of silly chaos.
>>97799494>It's mud, he can get into a crouched position for firingneat
>>97799437I’m honestly curious if you use that as a game piece.
>>97799487A single unit can't be the target of more than one strat per phase.>>97799477I just think the whole gimmick of having an abstracted metacurrency to spend on random abilities just doesn't work for a wargame. I want rules to simulate what my units do because of themselves or because of their wargear, not to manage a metacurrency.
>>9779925711ed is a copy of 10ed and they have nothing to hype but still need to hype.>DID YOU KNOW WE NOW HAVE SIMULTANEOUS DICE ROLLS IN OUR WARGAME?
>>97799489It's not actually that much bigger. The old defiler was always anomalously huge.
>>97799089>four regular Chaos Space Marine heads, one head each for the Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Emperor's Children, and Death GuardNight Losers BTFO
>>97799489>I mean its like twice the fucking sizeNot really. The old one was huge.
>>97799496okey, but doesn't that mean, that armies that got their rules cut, will not transit well in to 11th, because their "balance" was the strat stacking. meanwhile a unit that GW wrote (necron or eldar come to mind) with 10000 rules is going to be rather powerful.
>>97799499That's a problem of the artillery itself, still: "stratagems" should be something you buy.>>97799504>I just think the whole gimmick of having an abstracted metacurrency to spend on random abilities just doesn't work for a wargame.Exactly, because it's a cardgame/boardgame thing. I can think of a couple card games with a mana system like that
>>97799515Detachments are gonna be completely replaced and with them all stratagems so we don't know what balance or army power will look like.
>>97799437>You don't NEED Gaianotes and shit to paint GunplaNot having access to Gaia is pretty crippling, Mr. Hobby's color range is surprisingly limited if you don't include Aqueous. Part of why I switched from mecha to miniatures was the better availability and lower price of paint in the EU.
Mabye GW should sit down and redraw the whole system?
>>97799527shareholders wouldn't be happy with that
>>97799527That will happen in 12th. But I can assure you that new system will be even worse.
>>97799525yeah, when the codex come out. So if your codex come out in 12 to 18 months, you will be stuck with stuff that wasn't designed with 11th in mind. On top of that, a lot of armies have really bad detachments. For example DA or Custodes.
I'm going to paint a model today.
So if you cant stack stratagems does that include shit like command reroll?
>>97799493I honestly have been playing through this edition assuming that couldn't be done, i thought there already was a limit
>>97799535>>97799515Anon don't believe for a second that just because they are not replacing codexes the new edition won't be a gigantic upheaval of balance with some factions jumping on top in terms of power and some getting fucked.
>>97799536I hope so, anon. Im going to build and start painting a model today hopefully
>>97799514>>97799507Damn, you weren't kidding. I never saw one in person, only in the old Dawn of War game. Still, as much as I love the chaos crab, the new one is pretty fancy. I'm not condoning GW price gouging as a whole, but it is a consistent price with how much everything else costs rn. Also the mathhammer waacfag types are all acting like its the next OP thing so that hype will probably drive high sales and GW wanted to cash in on that. Fuck GW in general, but the KIT is very premium.>>97799521>That's a problem of the artillery itself, still: "stratagems" should be something you buy.Stratagem bloat was something specifically criticized in 8th and 9th, but I do think bringing SOME back would be good. I always really liked that epic heroes often came with a unique strat or two to show how they change how the army plays. We went from like 80 possible strats to 6, there is probably a middle ground there.I feel like paying for strats is probably not good because they have an in game cost as well. Imagine how bad it would to pay for a strat you never use when you could just have another Leut in phobos armor running around for that cost?
>>97799535They said the edition will launch with 70 detachments compatible with the new system. So every faction will have a few to choose from.
>>97799502Nah I mostly just built it for fun, over at /m/ I host a a themed building/painting contest that's not too different from the Collages done in these threads. We vote on a theme and let it run for 3-4 months and then vote on the best entry of the lot, then do it all over again with a new theme.>>97799526Yeah it might be different in the EU, I'm talking mostly from a US perspective on my end. Surely there's European brands that fill the lacquer hole in the hobby space?
>>97799546It also means that you can't do things like command reroll a necron 4++ then use the revival fight phase strat
>>97798976I'll be buying two tyvm!
>>97799551>but I do think bringing SOME back would be good.No. Bring back the armoury. That's what you want. Tons of upgrades that add special rules and cool weapons to your characters. Think something like the cybork upgrade, bionics, vortex grenades, relics. Stratagems as a system are a plague for the game.
>70 detachmentsSo each army would get roughly 5 detachments. We are going to suffer from detachment fatigue if we can use the ones from 10e too
Name a subfaction created through the books of 40k that quickly became a fan favorite
The old Chaos Raptor designs looked so much cooler. Why the fuck did they get rid of the cool feet and helmet and just made it Chaos Space Marines but with a jetpack?
>>97799537Yes. And stop wasting your CP on command reroll, yah dingus
>>97799569nah, stratagems are great for adding actual tactics into the gameThings like wargear should coexist with stratagems
>>97799569Sounds like a lot of these upgrades aren't in the box. That's incredible confusing for some folx that are new to the game. You can't count on everyone having a bitz box. Some people can't handle sharp blades needed to cut off weapons, too.
>>97799597Its saved my characters from dying too many times
>>97799579>if we can use the ones from 10e tooWe won't. By the sounds of it, the whole system has been reworked and looks more like 30k's FOC but with special rules attached to each detachment.
Corsairs combat patrol, do I build voidreavers or voidscarred?
>>97799579Remember it's 70 new and UPDATED detachments. Realistically it'll be more like this>4 new Detachments for Space Marines>4 new Detachments for Orks>2 new detachment for everyone else (So like 25 more)>The remainder is rebalancing a bunch of the old ones to remain viable in 11th
>God tier designRapid IngressFire Overwatch>Good tier tesignInsane BraveryHeroic InterventionTank ShockEpic Challenge>Why is this a thing?Go To Ground>Shit tier, please removeGrenadeCommand RerollSmokescreenCounter Offensive
>>97799618It'll actually be 29 new detachments for space marines.
>>97799569You're right. All of the stratagems that I'm particularly attached to are effects that can be — and often had been — pre-game purchases previously.>>97799603You're mangling your strawmen here.
Kinda hope I can finish my pile of shame before I get a draft notice.
>>97799638And they still won't use any of them because they'll all prefer Gladius.
>>97799652just pretend to be a tranny and you are immune to the draft. Don't even have to fuck up your body with hormones or anything, just wear a skirt when appealing the draft notice
>>97799652Do they send people like you to war (obese people with type 2 diabetes)?
>No more strategem stacking!>Unless you're an army built around strategem stacking then you'll still need to do that
>>97799652I'm too old (Late30s) to be drafted, THANK GOD!
Big Dark Mech versus Ad Mech energy
>>97799560>Surely there's European brands that fill the lacquer hole in the hobby space?No, because the "lacquer hole in the hobby space" is a matter of regulations. The only way around that is imports, and suffice it to say I soured on the hobby pretty quickly after spending 150 euros for 5 pots of paint and a bottle of thinner.
>>97799684they extended it for people up to 42 years old american bro.
>>97799690I wanna see that chaos marine do anal on that tech preists fat ass with his tentacles.
>>97799697thats the max enlistment age
>>97799704
>>97799721back to your subreddit
>>97799613Magnetize them to have both
>>97799735Shhh
>>97799736I don't think it's that easy, voidscarred aren't just simple arm/weapon swaps
Are there tanks out there that scale well with guards stuff?
>>97799839preferably in plastic, looking for proxys for stuff like the transports and the rogal dorn.
Hard R mageddon
I love my sisters of battle models but I kind of hate the way they play on the table top. I just don't like glass canon armies. I don't really know what to do about it. I like Black Templars too but not as much as sisters and I just can't ever seem to get good results with the few models of theirs I do like. They also just don't feel tank enough anymore without the FNP
>>97799839Not really, real life tanks will always look jarring next to cartoony 40k characters and vehicles
Would the Heresy have happened if Fulgrim and Sanguinius offered their bodies to the other Primarchs?
>>97799839Saladin armoured cars
>>97799865I would obviously make them look more 40k like but I really dont like the skeleton the vehicles in the imperium have. I guess the flyers are cool at least.
>>97799753There is no difference between them, its the same sprue
>>97799862I dont want to go back to the day where every other Imperium subfaction had armywide FNP and Death Guard had it on one character model.
>>97799872you have a size comparsion?
>>97799901It's not just a matter of detailing/styling but also proportions. It'd be like putting a real life car next to a Hot Wheels one.
>>97799582Someone answer me?
>>97799690Why do I get the feeling Iron Warriors getting shit is gonna result in GW revealing their newest army for 11th ED which is Dark Mechanicus?
Any new 40k books that were written by a new author for Warhammer books that are actually good?Is this any good?
>>97799860>arm, I get one
>>97799582Idk bro, I guess gene stealer cults
>>97799166Trying Too Hard
>>97799582>>97799969If totally original, Tanith (Gaunt's Ghosts)If totally original, Night Lords
>>97800014>If NOT totally original, Night Lordsdammit
>>97799582Night Lords. any Space Marine Chapter, Exodites, Tau Auxiliary races.
>>97799839You want either 1/48 or 1/56 scale stuff, and the later only really exists in Bolt Action stuff. I bought a pre-assembled Tamiya 1/48 JS-2 for $10 at a hobby shop to use in an eventual Ragnarok kitbash and the size is roughly the same as a Leman Russ in terms of length/width. Definitely not height though.
>>97800030>Night Lords were from a book instead of Codexes>Same with Exodites and Tau AuxiliariesI don't believe you at all.
>>97800057You phrased the question wrongYou should have written novel
>>97800070Navel
I swear this plastic glue gives me the worst sneeze attacks.
>>97800057>I don't believe you at all.I don't give the slightest fuck. You asked, I answered. Blow your own balls off for all I care.
>>97799582there's no faction or subfaction that was taken from novels and spun into something popular you need to understand that the blacked library authors and readers are irrelevant and worthless
>>97800137I was gonna say sisters of silence, but you're still 100% right. Kek
>>97799652Nothing every happens leftytroon
>>97800147sisters of silence came from blanche's concepts, not from novels
>>97799697Learn to read
>>97799527How the fuck can you want that though
>>97799569>muh +1 to my armor save for buying flak armor is SOVLkys grog, some people actually play this as a game and advocating for the game to be worse because old good new bad is tired as fuck. Strats are a great addition to the game, GW being BAD at making their game doesn't change that player interactivity and a full extra dimension to evoke fluff is a good thing.
>>97799633Grenades is pretty cool but it does feel like it should be a once per game or something. I would kind of like strat to have different profiles, to show you using a melta or frag grenade for example. Attaching a canoness to my sisters squad means... they can throw 5 grenades over the course of a game for free lol?
>>97799978Because its a logical conclusion that people have been speculating about for 2+ years at this point? we knew Iron Warriors were getting stuff towards the beginning of 10th due to leaks.
>>97800137>custodes>harlequins>sisters of silence>inquisitionI would say probably the most popular novels --> model transition is Assassins but we all know the sad and pathetic truth: it's primarch shit.Bobby G was in novels for years and then got shit out as a model and printed millions.
>>97800001I've been liking Peter Fehervari's stuff. I wasn't paying attention to who wrote what and I liked 3 stories by him.
>>97800231custodes come from rogue trader and vision of heresy artworksharlequins are old as hell, early 2nd editionsisters of silence once again come from blanche's artworksthe inquisition is the heart and soul of the imperium in rogue trader assassins don't come from novels either, once again you're looking at early sculpts extravaganza
>>97800272sorry I consider codex fluff the same as novels. The things I listed in lore existed in codex artwork before getting models.
>>97796955> FalconAnon, the new wave serpent kit (which this includes) is now a dual kit between the Falcon and Wave Serpent>>97796849You’ll want a mix of the aspects, not only because rules are temporary, but because they’re always the core of the army no matter the rules. From there you can expand into whatever path you like: wraiths, bikes and vehicles, corsairs, the idiotic “new Eldar” (aka Ynnari), even going down Dark Eldar if you like. But the aspects are the core and will always be that
>>97800272>harlequins are old as hell, early 2nd editionThey came out in 1st/RT
>>97800194NTA but it's kind of a weird move to keep the 10e codices, thereby tying their hands from making a lot of changes.It's like the opposite from DnD where it's been over a decade and they're releasing new rulebooks but they refuse to declare a new edition.
>>97799869No
>>9780040311 is just 10.5same way 9 was just 8.5
>>97800455Does that mean 11 is actually 9.5 then?
>>97797597The world spirits on maiden worlds are a psychic gestalt of all the Eldar who died on the world. It's a big ball of souls collected from a super-psychic race. So how exactly is Fenris' world spirit the same? Are all fenrisians secretly powerful psykers who's souls are collected by the planet? If not, then it isn't what the Exodites have.
Can I get a QRD from Godblight where Mortarion shit his pants when I assume the door to where Nurgle actually is and lives opened when the Emperor possessed Guilliman? Why would he be terrified of that?
>>97800485>The world spirits on maiden worlds are a psychic gestalt of all the Eldar who died on the worldAre you sure? I knew worlds had spirits regardless and the eldar simply find shelter with them while most other races are deaf to them.
>>97800500>Why would he be terrified of that?You don't want to meet Nurgle personally, even a one of his daemons.
>>97800503World spirits are indeed the exodite version of infinity circuits, but who knows, maybe they require a preexisting world spirit in the vein of Fenris/Baal/Nocture to actually function.
>>97800500To sell the book to impressionable marinetards.
>>97800513How bad could it b->gets put in the jar
>>97800500Getting called into the boss' office is never good.
NEW THREAD>>97800527>>97800527>>97800527CHECK IT OUT
>>978005032nd edition codex states that the world spirit is a "complex psychic energy grid" connected to the outside world by psychically interactive standing stones which anchor psychic power into the planet. Considering the fact that maiden worlds are specifically plants terraformed by ancient Eldar, it stands to reason that this "energy grid" could be there by design and not some natural phenomenon.
>>97800532You know page 8 is not a good reason to make a new thread.Previous thread took over 12h to go from page 8 to page 10.
>>97800513Why would he be terrified of seeing his father though?
has the mutant finished his hellblasters, or has he been shitposting all weekend?
