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Spectres minis edition

>Adepticon roadmaps:
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/

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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion
>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1ze

Star Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)
>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaA

Other FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)
>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN

Old links
>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wB

X-Wing/Armada/Legion/Shatterpoint:
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/update-on-star-wars-x-wing-and-star-wars-armada/
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-transmissions/
>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/

Latest Edge news:
>https://edge-studio.net/a-new-hope/
>https://edge-studio.net/star-wars-edge/

Unlimited links:
>https://starwarsunlimited.com/articles/
>https://swudb.com/
>https://karabast.net

TQ: Which Adepticon reveal are you the most hyped about?
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>Forgot to change the previous thread link
>>97703365
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Been in a Star Wars mood since playing the Cal Kestis games, are any of the more recent novels even slightly readable?
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I really liked the mandalorian models.
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>Legion
Dead game
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Thoughts on my portrait of Omega? I love how it came out.
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>>97803667
I know this is a bait post, but
>dead game
>gets a gorillion announced minis
>New stuff keeps coming out regularly
How is it dead, exactly? They admitted it a few months ago, the game is doing great in sales.
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Post minis
Play tabletop games
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>>97803676
It took a huge hit during COVID and only recovered popularity-wise recently, which is why many think it dead
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>>97803676
Asmodee shifting the games to AMG cost a lot of trust, ended up wit hXWM and Armada dead and SW RPG appears to be in a coma.

Also, the entire franchise has been mismanaged by Disney to such a degree that people just walked away, eitehr from due to the drama or the actual mishandling of the setting.
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>>97803680
Poor little black guy. No amount of Incognito or Uncanny Luck will save that Lando.
I played a game saturday with the new Objectives (Cauldron+Supply Run). Turn 1 went well then I messed up activation order on turn 2 and everything went downhill from here.
My opponent's red droids look amazing.
I probably could have won if I had played the Secondary better but it was a good learning experience overall
I expected Lando to feed Cassian fleets Standbys, but I feel like I got more value out of using Guidance to move stuff around for unexpected objectives grabs or threat range extension. He's great.
I think I need fewer time-sensitive units.
Positioning is also hard to get a feel for.
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I don't see why they are making Legion-scale flyers when they already have X-Wing. And at the sped and altitude of the flybys, they may as welll use the X-Wing models as representatives of the attack runs.
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>>97804618
Pretty much every Star Wars ground battle has close air support. I just hope this means Republic will get a LAAT
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>>97803547
ENOUGH FILONI SLOP GET IT OUT OF LEGION I AM SICK ENOUGH OF THAT SHIT IN SHATTERPOINT AAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>97804772
You cant convert your minis to look like whatever EU fanfiction characters you want
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>>97804262
Very interesting. Those droids look great too. I have yet to play the new objectives. A lot of them seem to require that you actually spend actions to score, which seems interesting.
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>>97804772
Sorry bro, as I said in the previous thread, this is Mr. Filoni's Wild Dickin' Ride, and you're in it. He is going to turn SW into his story if it means making it so that by 2030 we won't have gotten a single story about the OT or PT cast for years
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>>97805066
> by 2030 we won't have gotten a single story about the OT or PT cast for years
I mean, I don’t really want all SW stories to exclusively focus on OT & PT characters and them alone. That’s how things get tired and stale. Not to mention that the OT characters’ story is basically done, the end of RotJ being their big “happily ever after” storybook ending; to keep dragging them into the spotlight feels cheap, and a little disrespectful of the characters.

The Star Wars Galaxy is a big place, there’s plenty of room to introduce a new cast of OCs, with new dynamics, new backgrounds, and can go on adventures that are wholly their own without having to shit on the legacy of the beloved characters that came before.

That’s a big part of why Rogue One, Rebels, and the first few seasons of The Mandalorian got such positive fanfare. People want new content, not just retreads of old content.
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>>97805201
Except that the modern characters are currently more important than the OT and PT cast. Ahsoka singlehandedly is one of the founders of the Rebellion, is tracking Thrawn in another part of the galaxy, helped defeat the Empire, etc. And she appears in way more content than LUKE SKYWALKER has EVER appeared in
Same with Filfaggot's other characters
Also your point misses the fact that just because we got Luke's ending in RotJ that doesn't mean his life is over, what happened in the EU has some lowpoints like DE but overall his evolution into Grand Master is far, FAR more respectful than Disney's take where he does absolutely fuck all after RotJ, then pisses off to die in an island somewhere while the galaxy gets conquered
>That’s a big part of why Rogue One, Rebels, and the first few seasons of The Mandalorian got such positive fanfare
Rogue One got fanfare because it was tied to ANH and Leia and Tarkin cameo'd, even if as cursed CGI puppet things
Rebels was overall hated, people saw it as a dumb kiddie show from the start and it did not get recognition as it went on. The few fans it realistically had had been sucking Filoni's dick since TCW and felt obligated to watch it since it's the sequel series
Mandalorian was liked because it's basically a Boba Fett show in the way it should have gone, although it's really soulless and people have been more and more critical than ever of it since S3. You also forget that the biggest spotlight it ever got was when Luke actually did something for once under Yidsney in the S2 ending, and then when he basically disappeared Mando died under the terrible S3
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>>97804679
>LAAT

I think its too big for the game. Would make more sense to have smaller craft acting as air support. Give me a v-wing
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>97805227
Oh, look. It's this mentally ill faggot again. The one who came up with parasocial George Lucas fanfiction to justify his shitty headcanon, and then going full schizo mode when the actual quotes of Lucas were posted, saying that what Lucas thinks doesn't matter and he is a retard. Typical EU tranny, lmao.
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>>97805366
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
You are a retard
I don't give a fuck what Lucas wants
Besides you're attempting to justify Filoni who has actively ruined the movies to add his jailbait character and other shit OCs
But hey, you do you man
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>>97805201
having them show up and be in the spotlight now and then, when it actually makes sense, is far from exclusively focusing on them. We have the opposite right now, there is so much shit and donutsteels in the timeframe they should be super active. We were always meant to see them after ROTJ as well.
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>>97805366
The franchise is dead, stop being a loser and pound sand
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>>97803680
Disaster almost every step of the way with this model, have salvaged it as much as I can. OpLuke in case it wasn't obvious.
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>>97803680
>>97804262
>>97804945

How do the different Legion Factions play?

Just about nobody at my LGS plays Legion (I honestly thought it died alongside Armada) so now knowing that it’s still going strong, I’m curious.
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>>97805556
Rebels = Hero centric faction with lots of tricks
Empire = FIRE EVERYTHING
Republic = Elite
Separatists = Horde
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>>97805556
>>97805561
To this Anon's post, I would also add that
>Empire
The most vanilla faction with the fewest weird rules, relying on general efficiency and raw statlines.
>CIS
The most mechanized faction. In theory, it is possible to run nothing but vehicles+3 squads of B1s.
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>>97805495
Cool mini.
I like the way you differentiated the black cloak/black tunic/black gloves+boots. I always struggle with making my blacks look different enough.
Did you mix some color to your black/grey or just used mixes of white/grey/black?
The lightsaber also looks good though I prefer going Green->Yellow for green lightsaber.
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>>97805260
Further investigation, I came across this. Pretty neat color scheme
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Now, I can’t remember where I heard this:

But I recall hearing some outlandish stories of some Jawa clans leaving Tatooine by, *checks notes*, strapping a hyperdrive sled to their sand crawlers and “flying” the damn brick through hyperspace on a one-way trip to distant worlds.

Now exactly how much credibility would you give such claims?
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I find how he the Bad Batch OMG Omega I miss her so much
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>>97806061
Is this the new shit we're getting? Filonifag, Ventressfag, Ahsokafag and now Omegafag? We're so screwed
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>>97806145
Omega is the best thing to happen to Star Wars
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I hate this piece of shit so much. I really wish they did a redesign. It's so fucking ugly and the worst designed rifle in the entire franchise
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>>97806145
>>97806227
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>>97806299
>Episode 2 shows it as the standard clone gun
>Episode 3 shows it as an occasional gun, mostly replaced by a carbine
>Barely exists in TCW at all
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>>97806023
That’s some fucking loony tunes shit right there.
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>>97806023
That sounds so kino I'm making it canon in my game immediately
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>>97806299
Original model gun looks super sexy though
>>97806378
TCW raped the PT
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>>97806414
My biggest gripe with TCW is it barely did anything to flesh out the conflict itself. The Seps became even bigger generic cartoon villains, the Jedi became even blander and Anakin turned into a Han Solo clone. It had a lot of fun stories but after watching TCW I am always longing for an actual show or movie to delve into the war.
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>>97806433
Because TCW exists to """fix""" the PT due to the sheer backlash it got from retards who didn't understand it
>Conflict isn't fleshed out
Because people complained that the PT had actual politics (even though ANH has a whole scene dedicated to politics which people forget because Vader is there) so now it's just like a dumber take on the OT for retarded kids where nothing matters and it's le fun adventures in space
>Seps became even bigger generic cartoon villains
People didn't understand that the TF were gullible greedy idiots and a lot of them genuinely sympathized with them so TCW made them retarded to make them the obvious villains and avoid misunderstanding the plots (even though it also made the Republic commit war crimes on the daily and be generally awful lol)
>Jedi became even blander
Cause people hated that the PT Jedi weren't perfect and had flaws and were complicit in Anakin's fall because they suck Yoda's cock even though he and Obi-Wan were straight up wrong about being able to save Anakin in the OT
So now the Jedi are perfect except in the Temple bombing arc where they're just a bit blind but dindu nuffin
>Anakin turned into a Han Solo clone
Because people hated PT Anakin being a morally grey complex character and thought he was an irredeemable whiny psycho who should be in jail
So now he's a chad who only has occassional moments where he's Vader (always done for fanboy appeal) but otherwise is perfect overall
Same flanderization happened to Obi-Wan (going from stern and serious and using humor to cope with war trauma to being a snarky jackass and war criminal), Yoda (who's just his self from Episode V despite not having done his arc), etc
>I am always longing for an actual show or movie to delve into the war
Ignore Filonifag's constant whining and just read the CWMMP, it has exactly what you want in comics and books
That's why he seethes so much, because it respects the PT which he hates
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>>97806507
Kek why is that Tusken talking? TCW may have had flaws but it will never be as retarded as EU slop
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>>97733908
They're simply wearing traditional Space Princess garb.
>>97805366
Too afraid to reply to him properly, because you know that every argument about the EU ends with you being forced to confront that you are cheerleading for Star Wars' years of lead. I wonder if you will kill yourself when Mandalorian & Grogu is a disaster.
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>>97806538
Anon your dear Filoni was a major part of Book of Boba Fett which has Boba Fett suck up to a Tusken tribe that kidnaps and tortures him, and then he becomes pally ol' pals with them and when they die he becomes a heckin' wholesome governor of Tatooine who loves everyone and wants to give them rights
People aren't retarded, we know what Filoni does
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>>97806550
Book of Boba Fett looked like such dogshit I never watched it. I'm talking about TCW here.
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>>97806507
>the sheer backlash it got from retards who didn't understand it
lol
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>>97806554
In that case, should we go over when TCW made the Mandalorian a bunch of blonde peaceloving hippies and made Jango a random fucking douche who stole Mando armor instead of being MANDALORE? Or maybe we could go about how Maul went from a kidnapped Iridonian Zabrak to part of a male slave race in Dathomir which are used by le stronk independent women because men are dumb? Please, a talking Tusken is fucking nothing. It also works in the MMP because it has Anakin face against an actual horrible act he committed whereas in TCW he has zero character development, he's just his RotS self but even more flanderized because we can't have him evolve as a character.
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>>97806507
>the sheer backlash it got from retards who didn't understand it
You didn't understand it, though. Do I have to link your posts from the previous threads, where your pathetic fanfiction headcanon was dismantled by George Lucas personally? You sound so mentally ill, it's not even funny.
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>>97806577
If you mean the times you got gangraped by the entire thread, resorted to posting Lucas quotes he made back in 2019 (long after he sold out) and then when we kept posting your Xitter account ran away like the little pussy you are, sure, go ahead.
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>>97806570
A talking Tusken is more egregious than either of those things. The movies never even say the word "Mandalorian" so they aren't that important. Darth Maul instantly jobs as expendable fodder so he isn't that important. Sand people are integral to the pulp adventure soul of star wars, the moment you make them actual people the soul is gone. EUtists obsess over the wrong things and then make dogshit like The Old Republic
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>>97806507
>Because TCW exists to """fix""" the PT due to the sheer backlash it got from retards who didn't understand it
This claim seems to be factually untrue. I don't have it saved, but there's a BTS photo of an artist sculpting the reference model for Ahsoka out of clay in early 2005, before Episode III released. The show would have been planned even earlier than that.

>thought he was an irredeemable whiny psycho who should be in jail
He kind of was in Episode II, it's the main issue of the movie. They went too hard on him acting out or spilling spaghetti and we only get a couple scenes of what I think is supposed to be "Normal Anakin". All the stuff about Padme's backstory that could have helped audiences realize she's actually ALSO very maladjusted was either cut from the movie or never filmed in the first place.
>So now he's a chad who only has occassional moments where he's Vader (always done for fanboy appeal) but otherwise is perfect overall
TCW Anakin behaves a lot like he does in the Episode III opening, which is the last time he's "Normal Anakin". You could argue he should have been shown becoming that character instead of just being him already by the time the cartoon is happening, but that isn't what you're arguing.

>Ignore Filonifag's constant whining and just read the CWMMP, it has exactly what you want in comics and books
This, however, is good advice.
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>>97806507
>>97806538
Is that Darth Krayt's dad?
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Hey! You know what I’ve found in running multiple FFGSW campaigns is that nothing, and I mean nothing, sends a clearer message to players to “Turn the fuck around right now” than parking an ISD in their path.

Just wondering what other ships you guys found that also have that effect on PCs?
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>>97806414
It's literally the same gun except the stock is wood.
>using the scope as a grip on the bottom of the gun when not in use

Beyond retarded
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>>97806752
>It's literally the same gun
It isn't. The E-11 design lineage is way clearer and it's a direct gun with modifications rather than an angular thing with no clear real life paralels
And the wood adds a lot by giving it contrast long weapons need
>scope on the bottom
Wrong opinion, that's the coolest part of the DC-15
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>>97805577
Looking to get into the game and will most likely go Empire

Are they the easiest faction to play? I 100% plan on using Boba Fett operative.
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>>97805561
>>97805577
Actually, Very important follow up question:

Is the Legion rulebook sold on its own? Or is a physical copy only available with the purchase of one of the starter kits?
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Is Rebels pozzed or is it watchable
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>>97807422
It’s perfectly fine watching.
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>>97807037
>Are they the easiest faction to play?
They are definitely the easiest to get into the game with. They are in theory the weakest faction right now (47% winrate), but we're having a points update in 3 weeks, and I'd expect yet more buffs to them. This plus a couple of very useful units coming out soon (Thrawn being a god-tier support commander, and Probe droids being very useful cheap spammable units).

>Boba
His value is somewhat questionable right now, he is kinda overshadowed by Din Djarin these days. But there have been a few lists that run him with success.

I would say that right now, some of the best units are:
>Scouts
>Vader
>Din
>Snow troopers
>Dark troopers
>Krennic
>Dewbacks

>>97807185
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swlegiondocs/
All the rules are available for free online. Both for the standard mode, as well as the funky variants like Recon, Special Operations, Tours of Duty, etc. For (almost all) cards you're missing, you can just print them out, as the AMG website has most of the content in print-and-play.

But since you are getting started I *highly* recommend getting the starter set - for the price of 2 squads, you get 4 squads, a commander, dice, all the required cards and tools. It's hard to overstate how good of a deal it is.
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So, something amusing that I was fiddling with was writing up a collection of worlds in a hard-to-reach pocket of wild space that are based on… actually implied to be, iconic D&D settings.

I had the idea that to the locals of several of these worlds, they have these notions that Quarren are some kind of brain-eating “mind flayer”, who knows where they got such a notion. But then it hit me, knowledge Bank mollusks are a lot like the illithid elder brain.

And since I did a quick check on the Wookepedia, now I just feel I should check on this:

How much would the Dac government pay out to get a knowledge bank mollusk back that some group of randos found off-world?
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>>97807422
S1 is way more a kid's show than the other seasons.
S4 was squished, they proobably knew there'd be no S5 so they had to wrap things up.
All in all, it was the first good look we got at the imp era, which was great. It has solid waifu options.


It also tricked many (including me) into believing Filoni was not a hack who'd sealclap while the harpies set fire to the franchise.
In me defence, he was hiding his power level.
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>>97806730
A raider corvette commanded by an Inquisitor terrorized my party in the early game
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I know they're both dead, but between the 2 which did you guys prefer and why?

Armada or X-wing?
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>>97807422
It's pretty good, but season 1 is a bit slow.
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>>97808185
Armada hit the big ship fantasy while not being another historical game.
X-Wing was always going to be more popular though.
There was even a comic that stuck in the mind about a little kid and his dad getting right into the tactile and guardrail notion of the turning curves.
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Which is worse to deal with as a military officer an ISB agent or a COMPNOR agent who drinks the kool aid?
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>>97806507
>Cause people hated that the PT Jedi weren't perfect and had flaws and were complicit in Anakin's fall
People claim that Qui-Gon was better, would have stopped Anakin falling, would have, would have, would have. It's wrong. Pairing an impulsive child with severe anger issues, fear of everything, problems with authority, and a gigantic ego about his strength in the Force with Qui-Gon "fuck the Council" Jinn is a recipe for disaster.

What Anakin needed was someone like Mace, who wouldn't have let him get away with tantrums and constant fucking entitlement. If Mace was Anakin's master, he would have shut that down immediately and Anakin might have ended up as a decent Jedi. Because Anakin was a shit Jedi. Great warrior, yes. Great general, arguably. Great Jedi, fuck no. Yoda was right about that one when he said to Luke that wars don't make one great. He was talking about Anakin.

People don't like Mace Windu because he is a senior Jedi in a position of authority. He won't tolerate behavior that might harm the Order so he comes off as a hardass because he's holding you to account for your shit, and he's making the call when a call has to be made. Children hate this sort of person. Adults understand it.

He is an authority-focused teacher, and that also makes millennials seethe. He is a teacher who is very good at his job and a genuinely reasonable person (see: Ep2, Mace thinks Anakin is ready while Kenobi is fretting and correctly calls that Padme is the problem, or Ep1 at the end where only Yoda disagrees about Anakin's training, clearly Mace was convinced by his actions), but is probably cold if you don't know him well. Millennials HATE this sort of person since they want a substitute parent because their own parents are shit. They want a mentor to give them the affection they aren't getting at home. They don't want a teacher who will actually teach them and not tolerate shit, and Mace Windu is a teacher.

Millennials will seethe at this but it is true.
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>>97808671
Thematically Qui-Gon was the right teacher for Anakin. It was the "Duel of Fates" and the tragedy of Anakin was set the moment Qui-Gon tied. It heightens the pathos of the saga when you look at it through that lens, and that seems to be George's intention as well.

Functionally, just because Mace is a strict, more "authority-focused teacher" does not make him better for Anakin. Not all teaching styles work on everyone, and it is perfectly reasonable to believe that Mace's strictness may have actually caused Anakin to develop a huge emotional wound, which would then be exploited by Sidious more easily. Or even cause him to flip on his own. Obviously he would be even less likely to confide in Mace if their relationship had been fraught with clashes. Meanwhile, Qui-Gon seems much more empathetic and lenient, whilst still clearly capable of catching his apprentice. I think Anakin would always develop an ego and problems with authority - he had them in TPM - but Qui-Gon was in a much better place to address them and help Anakin work through them. Shutting it down may work in the short term, but Anakin still flips.

I've seen this during my time in the army, and as a teacher. For the latter, I was more the Qui-Gon style; relatively lenient and empathetic with my students compared with my colleagues, although I still drew boundaries. I definitely had to deal with behavioural issues, perhaps more frequently that average based on conversations and observing other classes. However, I could also clearly see that my students were broadly enjoying my lessons and making good progress. Furthermore, students were approaching me with questions and problems even if I barely knew them. There was one particular bullying incident where I didn't even teach the girl and she chose to approach me based on the word of a friend. I believe that is the approach Anakin would have needed most in his formative years, and Obi-Wan was almost there but just a little too much like a peer.
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>>97808936
Anakin's ego issues in AotC can be traced in a straight line to Obi-wan. Obi-wan was like a brother to him and that's where the acting out, emotional instability, and rebelliousness came from, such as his immediate arguing with his master in AotC and later ignoring those orders. Anakin did not need a brother for a teacher. There is a reason in RotJ that Obi-wan says he thought he could instruct him and he was wrong.
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>>97808936
>>97808671
>"He's as wise as Master Yoda and as powerful as Master Windu."
Anakin respected Mace very well, anons. Mace would have been a fine teacher. The problem is Kenobi.
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>>97808671
Mace Windu is stern but he cares deeply about his apprentices, their growth, and their emotions, Shatterpoint in Legends and Living Force in Disney confirm that. He isn't just a teacher, that's simply the role he's in with Anakin.
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>>97808671
Anakin's impulsivity and anger issues came from nobody giving a fuck about him, Qui-Gon WOULD have been a parental figure unlike Obi-Wan who was a stick-up-his-ass older brother who was not ready to give parental guidance to Anakin. Qui-Gon dying is what allowed Sidious to take hold
>If Mace was Anakin's master, he would have shut that down immediately and Anakin might have ended up as a decent Jedi
Wouldn't have happened. You cannot supress years of abusive slavery and horrible traumas like that. Also Mace is one of the big reasons Anakin turned to the Dark. His refusal to let Anakin become a Master, pushing for Anakin to spy on Palpatine (who Anakin sees as his dad basically) and then outright breaking his own Code when trying to eliminate Sidious in his office is what drives Anakin to fully accept Vader. Mace consistently is the biggest Jedi influence in Anakin's fall, not even Yoda and Obi-Wan have that distinction
>Mace thinks Anakin is ready while Kenobi is fretting and correctly calls that Padme is the problem
Anakin leaving Padme is a simple impossibility.
>at the end where only Yoda disagrees about Anakin's training, clearly Mace was convinced by his actions
Mace is a fervent believer in the prophecy so he only accepted Anakin for that reason. By Episode III he slowly starts to believe it may have been misunderstood and Anakin isn't a child of the prophecy. In the novel he thinks the time for Anakin to strike Sidious down is in the office and somehow believes Anakin would be A-OK with that because he has no clue that Anakin has lost faith in the Jedi Order
>their own parents are shit
Mace would be a shit parent. Mace hates attachments and himself is clearly traumatized as seen in Shatterpoint due to his childhood in Haruun Kal, his shatterpoint ability and his regrets. Someone like Luke is a great parent, Mace is too dogmatic
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>>97809029
Yes, but at the same time Obi-Wan understanding is what gave Anakin a lot of compassion even as Vader. It's implied Obi-Wan was aware of Anakin and Padme's relationship yet hid it because he knew Anakin would be devastated had he been forced to either leave the Order or leave Padme. Obi-Wan also deeply cared about Anakin.
Compare that to Mace. Mace only cares about Anakin as an apprentice. Mace WOULD cut that shit out the second he smelled it. You bet your ass if Mace had been Anakin's mentor, Sheev would have gotten ahold of Anakin YEARS earlier.
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That anon who guessed we'd get the V-wing was correct
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>>97808412
You expect a military officer or COMPNOR agent to believe all the crap. But an ISB agent who isn't at least a little self aware must be genuinely retarded and incompetent.
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>>97808185
XWM.
Armada never took off here, so I never really had a chance to play it.

XWM on the other hand even had a cool virtual table in TTS, which was a fucking lifesaver in the corona days.
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>>97808185
Early XWing was cool but the newer edition ruined it with too much special rules jank. Armada was super fun to play and I'm glad they got all the factions out before it died.
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>>97808185
Not sure about Armada, but X-wing has a pretty active fan development project - the X-wing alliance. They recently teased new pilots and new upgrades to be added soon.
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>>97809565
For a fleet officer to really believe the propaganda he (or she) has to be in a cubicle somewhere in HQ or the archives or whatever.
COMPNOR are the guys manning the fucking kool-aid dispensery, so they better learn and repeat the party line.
ISB gets away with silent stares and maybe a frafctional nod, and they're probably required to report the actual truth up the chain.

Worst to deal with is obviously COMPNOR, folloowed by naive military officer.
ISB is the scary option, if they arrive to help you you fucked up because you require help, if they're there to invfestigate you you may be fucked because you're a suspect, if they're there to observe you . . who the fuck knows, just don't draw attention and don't fuck up.
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>>97809701
I actually liked what they did with XWM v2.
Late v1 wasn't great, way too much baggage and special rules that would come down to 'oh you are in my turret arc, here are six different die I can place however I want and now you're dead'
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>zero company will have a news feed giving live news from the galaxy in 20BBY

what events took place in 20BBY? what clone wars stories?
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>>97809938
>clones die, clankers get scrapped
Pretty much this on repeat
Clone Wars feel like the most boring era
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>>97809938
A whole bunch
>Tarkin's rescue at the Citadel
>D-Squad arc, GAR's Carida Strategic Conference and the CIS' attempt to blow it all up
>Battle of Mon Cala
>Second battle of Naboo where Tarpal dies capturing Grievous
>Mortis arc, whatever happened here
>Battle of Umbara and Pong Krell's betrayal
>Dooku drops Ventress to train Savage, Savage leaves Dooku then Ventress
>Kenobi's death and Dooku hiring a bunch of Bounty Hunters to capture Palpatine
>Zygerrian Slave Empire getting wrecked
>REMOVE NIGHTBITCHES, Dathomir genocide... best day of my life
>the revolution on Onderron
>Fives trying to uncover Palpatine's plan
>the invasion of Scipio and Palpatine taking over the Banking Clan
So a whole bunch of S3-6 episodes, but notably before Maul creates the Shadow Collective and before the Jedi Temple bombing.
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>>97810239
I thought those were all 21BBY, I thought S4 onwards was 20BBY?
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>>97810318
My bad I mixed some shit up, Scipio and the Fives Conspiracy are actually 19BBY in nucanon.
Here is the chronological order:
https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder
Apparently Senate Murders from S3 is the last 21BBY episode while Revival from S5 is the first episode of 19BBY despite the fact all the non-Maul S5 episodes are set in 20BBY.
It's a bit confusing.
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>>97810469
Jesus, you know, I sat down and watched that cartoon back when it was on Netflix, and it really didn’t hit me just how much TCW’s arcs bounced around the timeline.
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>>97810239
>Dathomir genocide... best day of my life
I'll gently genocide them one half-Dathomiran at a time, if you catch my drift.
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>>97810549
TCW at first tried to fit itself into the later period of the timeline but around late S1-S2 the writers gave up the act and imposed via timeline reveals in TV guides lore that basially placed TCW over all CWMMP canon. So there are some weird things because of that
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>>97811455
It's almost like the clone wars were too short to fit all the bullshit into.
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>>97811618
3 year long Clone Wars fit with everything except Filoni's fanfiction
It's a perfectly fine time span if you aren't bound to making everything revolve around the same 3 OCs
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It pisses me off that we never got to see this giga-chad in the clone wars or the Battle of Jabiim

Someone mentioned that Filoni replaces all the cool OG characters with his own OC and now I can't unsee it. I've always had mixed feelings about Rex
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>>97811618
This is too narrow a view, desu. Real wars have all kinds of shit happen in a three-year span. Just look Israel's ongoing battle royale in the Middle East.
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>>97811823
Kek what the fuck is he holding
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>>97812433
>Lil bro doesn't know what an M5 is
kek, go back tourist
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>>97812433
The Droid Killer 8000.
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>>97812433
>he doesn't know the original arc trooper rifle

You have to go back
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>>97812574
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>>97812433
Thats the OG arc trooper and their signature rifle the Westar-M5 you fucking zoomer
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>>97812594
I guess even Westar can screw up a design once.
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>>97812601
Go back to eating your shitty TCW designs zoom zoom
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>>97812616
Looks like someone's cranky! Maybe I can get Karen Traviss to read you a bedtime story.
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>>97812738
Traviss still wrote more interesting stories than anything with TCW kek
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>>97812774
>>97812616
>>97812594
>>97812585
>>97812574
Does anyone else get the feeling that these posts were written by some kind of mexican in his early 20s? Strong vibes of a brown DBZ child who spends his days debating anime power levels.
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>>97812601
NTA, but the rifle is very customizable. You can attach an underslug grenade launcher to it and an arc trooper even uses it in Genndys clone wars against Grevious

I actually have a 3D print as part of my cosplay. I really liked the handrail look
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>>97812863
Dude, you straight up showed earlier you don't know what the M5 is, meaning you genuinely didn't know about SW until TCW. The only brown newfag here is you, gtfo
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>>97813000
I am a different anon. I know what that blaster was. But I understand the other anon's confusion. That design isn't very good. Most of the non-movie designs are pretty bad. I just chimed in because these posts are all extremely brown-coded. Looking at the time zone in the file name of that saved picture >>97811823
it seems like South America. These posts just stink a certain way, you know?
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>>97807608
>he is kinda overshadowed by Din Djarin these days.

In what way?
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>>97813105
Din is very good at melee, being able to mulch multiple trooper units at the same time. He is also very mobile due to the card that gives him relentless. Meanwhile, boba's cards and shooting are kinda mid, and he can get bogged down in melee tarpits.
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>>97812863
EU is incredibly third world coded. The only guy I know IRL who loves it is an Indian.
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>>97812574
>>97812585
>>97812594
I wish EU artists would stick to the actual designs and not plague the world with their awful fanfiction slop
>We need a Phase 1 clone trooper but with a retarded gun and 1 billion pouches
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>>97812875
That looks a little better, yeah.

>>97812863
Are you attempting phrenology over the internet?
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>>97813296
>Are you attempting phrenology over the internet?
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>>97813247
Except it is movie design, it's just a phase 1 with a new gun. There are other designs that deserve the term "fanfiction slop" way more than ARCs. Of course you love them cause daddy Dave made them.
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>>97813351
You know, that’s not a bad design, as a private-market variant of laminate armor.

Usually the only examples of the armor type we ever see are either clone or stormtrooper armor.
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What your starting ship says about you:

> YT1300
Let me guess, your favorite flavor is also vanilla.

> YT2400
You are a hipster, who prefers vanilla “ironically”.

> Firespray
You’d rather be flying a real starfighter, but you’re stuck having to be the uber driver for the other nitwits in the party

> wayfarer
Don’t lie, you’ve been eyeing that hanger mod since session 0, and plan to convert this thing into a carrier at the first opportunity.

> Lambda
Every time, every time you set down you insist that THIS TIME you’re gonna be “clandestine” and do all the spy craft stuff. And get by on guile and subterfuge and be gone before anyone knows the wiser. But we all know halfway through you’re gonna fuck it up somehow and end up having to shoot your way out. Why do you keep lying to yourself? and seriously, why does the Empire keep letting people just steal these things?

> Y-wing, squadron
You’d rather be playing X-wing, or rogue squadron, right now.

> Pathfinder
Nobody willingly chooses to fly a Pathfinder!

> G9 Rigger
You will NOT shut up about the Clone Wars cartoon. We get it, we all get it, it’s your favorite show! Please talk about something else!


Admit it. You know I’m right!
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So are contrast-type paints the optimal way to go painting stormies, clones and droids?
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>>97813737
Wayfarer is the ideal party bus, the ability to jam some fighters in the cargo bay only increases its allure.
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>>97813758
Honestly, I’ve never seen a model pained using contrast paints that actually looked “good”.
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>>97813832
> Wayfarer is the ideal party bus
Only if you either get the hanger mod, or you know for certain that your GM doesn’t like to utilize vehicle combat very much.

Otherwise you may discover it has a bit of a glaring flaw:

It’s a silhouette 5 tub that can only shoot forward and its shielding is strongest in the rear. It’s literally too big to dog-fight, but if it gets into a scrape, then its only options are to run, or try to dogfight anyway (and probably lose).


If you ask me, in my experience, the ideal party bus is one the players normally can’t get right out of the gate:

The Gozanti.

Preferably either the pre clone wars variant, or C-roc variant (though some parties may appreciate the imperial variant, even if it’s the shittiest variant).
In all cases it’s just as big as the wayfarer, has good cargo capacity, plenty of room for modifications, can be crewed by even a 3-man party (barely). And has Enough fire-ports to be able to defend itself from every angle of attack. It’s basically a flying castle. While still being ubiquitous enough to not draw attention if they don’t want it.
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>>97813737
> wayfarer
>Don’t lie, you’ve been eyeing that hanger mod since session 0, and plan to convert this thing into a carrier at the first opportunity.
Close, but rather than becoming a hanger, the cargo bay is converted into a luxury mobile-fortress/housing unit with a bunch of defences.
We drop it on planets instead of camping
I play SAGA. Stripping the included hangars is worth a ludicrous 800 EP. That's complete bullshit of the best kind.
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>>97814228
Admit it, you have a jacuzzi for taking 'healing baths' with the Twi'leks in there.
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>>97814291
>Twi'leks
We rent them, we don't keep any in the house.
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>>97814400
Very modern of you to support independent Twi'lek businesswomen like that.
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>>97814580
>no head panties
But this is blue board, anon!
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>>97814228
But why? Only one player has a character that can even fly ships. Everyone else does stuff like shoot things, chop things or crush things, or sneaky things.
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>>97814154
Gozanti has absurdly heavy armour and shields as standard, the most expensive shit to upgrade, comes with lots of defensive guns. Its only weakness is not in weak engines, but in not enough engines. The only upgrade you really want to do on a gozanti is more engines
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>>97810469
There are internet lists that put the show/s back in chronological order if you want to rematch it and have it make sense.
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>>97805883
Thats just mass effect cerberus
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>>97814605
Well that is too bad, isn't it.
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>>97814668
Because after a certain point, you give up on optimisation for the sake of styling on everyone.
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>>97813737
My players started with a Wayfarer. The original captain PC died in session 9 so they sold it for a D Wing. Wanted to do more combat focussed mercenary work. There wasn’t official D Wing art at the time so pic related was my attempt.
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>>97806628
It's an adopted human, not a real Tusken
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>>97803547
I thought Shatter Point was designated cesspool for cartoon minis
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>>97814676
> Its only weakness is not in weak engines, but in not enough engines. The only upgrade you really want to do on a gozanti is more engines
Yeah… yeah the class 3 hyperdrive and its sub-light speed also capping out at 3 is gonna get annoying. Luckily! Just as you said, it’s one of the easier problems to fix.

Especially since you really don’t have to bother upgrading the weapons, armor, or shields.
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>>97813737
Z-95, EU style.
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>>97813758
Stormies and clones:
>Zenithal black then white
>nuln oil all over
>heavy drybrush of white
>pick out black details with a black contrast paint
>done
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>>97813737
We have a YT1930. It's actually almost new, but it was a bit damaged so we got it cheap.
It's almost like we're playing traveller the ship eats all our credits half the systems are broken our mechanic and astromech droid are close to a mental breakdown please send help
Also we happen to have some speeder bikes for sale, would you like to buy one?
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>>97815568
Those are really cool. They look fucking fantastic.
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my friend got me the new imperial starter set, so i've got a lot of scouts nows, i made a list based around trying to supress my opponent any thoughts?
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>>97816226
Certainly a fluff-rich list. I can't say how well it'll work especially if the enemy brings vehicles.
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>>97816226
Too many upgrades desu
I'm pretty sure you could squeeze in more shore squads if you dropped:
>LTAs from mortars
>Mission objective from the strike squads
>scopes from the shores
>Duck and cover, environmental gear and emergency transponders from scouts
>recon intel from deaths
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>>97816267
The only other empire player that runs a lot of tanks loans them off me so I'll try and stay safe their.

>>97816349
I mainly added upgrades because i couldn't add anything else, but i'll try and see if i can cut enough to fit in another mortar team.
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>>97816358
If you drop what he proposed you have 32 points. . .
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>>97813482
Except it isn't a private makret variant. It's a canon clone variant. Because Filoni's design team sucks balls.
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You have a terminal illness, which SW character do you want to inform you?
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>>97817899
Wat Tambor
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>>97817899
Realistically? The Polis Massa droids



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