5e stormcast Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97795777>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questions:So, stormcast. More than a decade later, how are you feeling about them and their place in the game? What would you like for them to retain, and what to change in the next edition/soft reboot/whatever?
>>97803835Finish off the last fatcasts, redo the big boy prime, redo vandus on evolved calanax, then the fewer stuff they get after that the better, let's be done with them at once.
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>Outside the 41st Millennium, the Daughters of Khaine get gladiatorial with their own new mini-game, reenacting the deadly trials of Draichi Ganeth – the Tower of Blades.>First, you build a team of custom challengers by selecting their fighting styles, origins, and flaws – a great opportunity for customising some miniatures if ever there was one. Then, you’ll send them up the floors of the infamous tower, battling vicious creatures (such as Undead Combatants, Hypnotic Phantasms, Pit Troggoths, and worse) and dealing with unexpected twists as you climb as high as possible for the glory of Khaine. How far up will you get?Mite be fun
>>97803879Probably 0 chance they will actually convert shit like a Pit Trogg for photos, but still cool
>>97803879GW will literally invent entirely new minigames rather than support Warcry
>>97803835>What would you like for them to retainThe death masks, which I know is probably distasteful for some, but it’s needed. At least as a faceplate it’s needed to stay. >what to change in the next edition/soft reboot/whateverIf gw is intent on fromsofting warhammer then they need regular sized humans. Preferably with them taking up the sacrosancts role, with the said sacrosanct devolving into lighting gheists or being BETRAYED, idk you figure out how sacrosanct get order 66. As well as internal competing factions in there. Have a power struggle go on with sigmars incarnation (likely valten 2.0) with some rehash of Indra and another lighting god like raijin adapted in there for a three way (People love triangles right?), also finally introduce lighting gheists as some kind of tar pit unit. Also show stormcast *less* this time around. Keep them mysterious.
>>97803879They've done a couple of these in the past several months. There were the rules for the aerial warfare, and the chariot races. Maybe something else I'm forgetting. I wonder if they're just having fun or if these are like trial balloons.
>>97803899There's only so much you can write about in a weekly magazin an it's suppose to sell
>>97803899Were the chariot rules any good?
>>97803895>which I know is probably distasteful for someThem are unpleasant to most people; most would prefer that they wore medieval helmets or something else.
>>97803895Some conflict over who gets to be sigmar's heir could be fun. As long as we don't get chaos stormcast I'm fine with it.>>97803906Honestly white dwarf's role within gw's ecosystem has kind of been usurped by warcom, so now it just sticks around for brand image
not much this year, but the kraken diorama is enormous https://youtu.be/wdWEqZaWWrA
>>97803947>Honestly white dwarf's role within gw's ecosystem has kind of been usurped by warcomIs WD as low effort and full of mistakes as Warcom?
>>97803947>Honestly white dwarf's role within gw's ecosystem has kind of been usurped by warcomThey should exist side by sideWhite dwarf releases the content, warcom preserves it after enough time has passedThey could deliver so many rules for so many conversions out there
>>97803947>As long as we don't get chaos stormcast
>>97803947Warcom is a news site, White Dwarf is a hobbyist magazine with a focus on battle reports and unique, or cool army projects. It also contains fun scenarios and little game modes the designers thought of that would be cool.Of course, a secondary like you would never know the difference
The odd thing is how they've dodged changes to Stormcast immortality over the years only to, presumably, give in now with Sigmar's death. >Reforging flaws in 1e Downplayed >Lightning Gheists and corruption by Nagash Nevermind >Cursed Skies Immediately overcame >Reforging flaws and ruination Bit downplayed compared to Ionus, Astreia, etc fluff and Vandus' state of being prior
>>97803947WD has writers closely connected with the team, actually. They're all in the same studio space, play together, play test, homebrew, etc. Warcom are communicated with via email and basically a third party.
>>97803947>>97803976Seriously though, I'm surprised there aren't any chaos stormcasts yet. I mean, losing your humanity every time you die is a good enough reason to fall into chaos immediately.
>>97803995The parts of humanity they lose get filled in with anti-chaos pesticides making them more of a demon poison the more they get fucked up.
>>97803835>and what to change in the next edition/soft reboot/whatever?We need to bring back the Grail Knights; people love it when their super soldiers earn the title through sacrifice and bloodshed.At least it's more epic than just dying while doing something heroic and becoming a Stormcast Eternal.
>TQIt's been over 10 years and stormcast are still less interesting than the squatted mailmen
>>97803937>wore medieval helmets Everytime I see someone stick a crusader or a damn plumed knight helmet on a stormcast I physically get ill. Not even having the decency of experimenting with a frogmouth, yuck! The only issue with the current helmets are that they’re bald, and no one likes bald imagery, not unless if it’s related to the Buddha. But whatever if I was in charge of gw I would have ditched the Norse shit (whoever green lit the setting being based on Norse mythology was intentionally sabotaging the setting from the get go, I won’t get into it but it’s not a sustainable mythology in the long run, and no it’s not because of the constant implication of ragnarok) and go straight into Greek/Mycenaean shit. It’s more recognizable, it’s adaptable and you basically already had the concept down with chaos warriors (I think) before.
I miss the vibe of AoS 1 and 2I had a lot of hope and fun and expectations of the setting now it feels soooooo… formulaic? Predicable? Idk something went wrong for me
>>97803978White dwarf was also gw's primary way of communicating with the community and delivering news, so on that front it kinda has.
>>97804055>and no one likes bald imagery, not unless if it’s related to the Buddha.Or the chaos.
>>97803995Slaves to darkness basically are already the chaos stormcast. but a fight over who is heir if sigmar dies would be really fun, but i would fucking hate if they did make chaos stormcast personally
>>97803906It's not been weekly for years at this point
>>97804056AoS 1 and 2 were the most experimental, you had>The largest faction variety in the game's history>Every faction had two to three times as many artifacts, traits and spells>You could pick a realm of origin which would give you even more artifact, trait and spell choices>There were new releases constantly and all of them were wildly different and creative>The narrative was moving at a breakneck pace, things were being established and destroyed constantly>The rules were highly experimental and fun, competitive play wasn't even a thing, tournaments were just local store eventsThen 3e came out and followed the 40k tourneytranny chaser trend. All the fun went away, multiple factions and subfactions were squatted. Now every game happened in 1 realm dependent on the current fortnite season. AoS is so fucking gay and lame now
Let's face it stormcast were (at least initially) really just supposed to be space marines but fantasy. Reforging flaws, strikings, etc. Now in terms of minis we got normal sigmarines, we got jumppacks in prosecutors, we got not one but two not!terminator designs, we even got scouts in a way with vanguard chamber. That begs the question, where are the stormcast dreadnoughts? I mean in models, not in fluff. Where's the big stormcast mecha gw? Where is it?
>>97804108We kinda did already between tornus and the other love child of belakor, but yeah something like HH leading stormcast to be chaos marines would be fucking gay. Also wouldn’t make sense.
>>97800959This guy really likes his winged demon princes since he did another feathered demon prince last year in Germany, though this one seems to be specifically Azrael
>>97804180The older one for Comparison
>>97804133it is a shame but the majority of players at my local scene started in 3rd. i would like to see hero actions come back and although i didnt play 1st, realm rules sound really cool and should be put in to separate it from rest of wargames
>>97804142ive always hated this comparison, space marines did not invent guys in big suits of armour
>>97804225I'm mostly taking the piss, but come on, the big armoured guys have a set of even bigger armour for when they really need to be able to withstand heavy blows?
>>97804225>>97804225>space marines did not invent guys in big suits of armourNo, but do Stormcast Eternals really need to have bigger armor like Space Marines?I mean, it would have been enough to just say their armor was more powerful.
>>97803879>>97803899>>97803922That actually sounds bretty fun. I may pick up those WDs, which would be my first in years, just for some fun mini game rules.
I bring some more news from TGA to you guys.First off, concerning the whole TLW thing, it seems we'll get some more news tomorrow. In the meanwhile, apparently rumours are indeed pointing towards more of a lore reboot than a system one like we already suspected. No models or factions are expected to be removed as of right now.(ejecutor is not usually a leaker, but he has some connections and has called stuff before like the obr and recently lrl underworlds warbands. He seems to have more information on TLW, and since he's very active on that site I think he's pretty trustworthy)We also have some more cogfort news, apparently there's a wizard tower variant, but it's actually not an upgrade sprue but a whole new kit, even bigger than before, and with multiple slender towers instead? This one comes from hastings, who's been right about a bunch of stuff in the past (talking warseer days) and has recently resurfaced, but with wayyy less accurate information (i.e. thinking the new obr chariot was for tomb kings) so take this one with a big pinch of salt.Finally we have some news concerning the not!cathay faction, it seems like they are some sort of nomadic faction inspired by khorchin designs (some branch of mongols) worshipping a snake god. I don't even know where this rumour comes from exactly so take with an even bigger grain of salt.don't shoot the messenger
>>97804299I would prefer if the messenger had the messages instead of his words about the messages, but I'll take it, thanks
>>97804299>khorchin >Anyways it’s either related to daughters or slaanesh. In all likelihood it’s leaning to slaanesh unless someone at top really liked that one meme of jhagatai khan with dark eldar babes.
Finished my rat I'm now trying to figure out a neat color scheme for flesh eater courts
>>97804299>worshipping a snake god.So Sotek?
>>97804299ugggghhh we dont need more factions in the game, especially hopelessly dull ones that are one to one fantasy conversions of real life cultures like the trash in old world>>97804237>>97804264juggernaut armour, also not a unique concept
FEChads, how do you make your Horrors and Flyers look less copy-pasted? With specific pairs of arms fitting only one specific body each, it's hard to make them different from each other without chopping the arms into pieces and re-sculpting them.
>>97804404I use gorgers because the horror kit is wayyy too expensive and pretty shit. Admittedly it can wind up with the same issue but you can swap weapons around in hands.Real answer though is just put some green stuff in shoulder joints or neck joints and fiddle around with that. You'd be surprised how much milage you can get from such a simple little change.
>>97804363They're evil, so it must be nagendra or an aspect of slaanesh
>>97804318I simply didn't feel like screenshotting everythinghere's the wizard cogfort thing btw https://www.tga.community/profile/20289-75hastings69/the not!cathay thing is weirded and I don't know what the exact source even is
Almost done on this cathallar. the chalice burner thingy is gonna be pink but idk how to paint the little stones in it without it looking like shit
>>97804462Other side
>>97804449>here's the wizard cogfort thing btw https://www.tga.community/profile/20289-75hastings69/Seems neat, and I guess it would track they'd have a Brodd esque other sprue. Sucks it's gonna be a few months before this shit even hits shelves.
>>97804424>because the horror kit is wayyy too expensiveGood news. They randomly add it for free to every other FEC box
>>97804225It is a bit silly to be incredulous about the comparison when it’s pretty obvious they’re made to be similar. “It’s familiar, but with an exciting twist!” was obviously what they were going for to sell Space Marine players SCE and to get into AoS. SCE even have Skull faced Chaplains.
Perspective as TOW player>stormcast are cool, could have been in WHFB as like an elite Cult of Sigmar unitAnyways >IMO we need aos to be as different from us as possible to survive>if GW finds themselves supporting two increasingly similar/overlapping fantasy wargames they might axe one, and it would probably be TOW.>basically my thesis is TOW only can live in AOS shadow, if light shines on TOW we are in trouble >we don't have multiracial factions and black trannie kweens in medieval armor>WHFB is based on real life history, just exaggerated and fun, hence CATHAY being all asian because obviously they are based on China>this is problematic in current year>we need AOS to bloom and be the LGBTQIA+ corporate facing entity>so we chuds can hide in (unironically) our safe historical fiction spaceI am wishing you all the best. I hope you have not Dark Elves but Shadow corporeal elves to go along with your underwater elves. And I hope you keep your realms, and living god dude, again so we can be different. Most my fellow WHFB chuds want you to get wrecked, but i see we need you to thrive.
>>97804299meh, the current 'world' is an unintelligible mess as far as I'm concerned. locating everyone within one world where I can imagine where and how my army meets another would be a benefit as far as I'm concerned. the only problem is I wish they were going to be original and not replicate the old world, which is itself a replication of the real world.
>visit stranger's house>she shows me her son's room>Soulblight on a shelfIf you own skeketons, i saw where you sleep
>>97804528This is kind of how I feel about it too, though I don't really have a problem with the realms concept it's just kind of meh
>>97803835I think SCE as Fantasy Marines was a concept dead out of the gate because if you scratch 40k’s sci-fi surface you’d find the core is still a Fantasy setting with magic and gods and wizards meaning the Fantasy Marines existed already all along. I think SCE have a real future if they use the chambers to properly distinguish themselves further. The extremis chamber is a really good step in the right direction, it’s something Space Marines can’t really do and adds potential dynamics to their lore only they have. It seems sacrilegious, but I would suggest going so far as to have unarmored Stormcast. Maybe they’re walking storms that armor only hinders if it could contain them anyways.
>>97804424>the horror kit is wayyy too expensiveTbf every Warhammer kit is too expensive by default. I managed to snatch 2 Mortal Realms FEC premium kits for 50 eurobucks each and one extra set of Horror/Flyer sprues for 20 eur. Otherwise I wouldn't bother with buying into such a horde army.
>>97804579I always wonder if I should go more horde for my FEC. Then I realize I have 3 terrorgheists, a zombie dragon, and Ushorann.
>>97804579The Horror kit can apparently build two other alternate units so James is probably just charging for the bits.
>>97804611Ya know with that in mind, they'd make a really easy starting box faction. Update the horrors, give them the courtier, update the ghouls like the clan rats so you get like 40 of the god damn things and give em a new courtier. Give them a Morbheg mounted hero and then like an updated ghoul king and you've got a whole ass starting box.Shit FEC would make a solid bad guy faction for a starter box
>>97804664>give em a new courtierENTERS.
>>97804706can GW just give me my stupid walking castle so I can fill it with ghouls.
Since the Ironjaws worship Gork, and the Kruleboyz worship Mork who now worships Gorka-Morka, the Bonesplitters do not because they have already become one with the great green.
>>97804732Ironjawz worship Gorkamorka out of the greenness of their heart, Kruleboyz worship false gods that benefit them short term
>>97804732they both worship both
>>97804732IIRC both worship both, but they focus more on their preferred aspect of Gorkamorka. That's a thing I like about destruction, where the faction as a whole is sorta kinda monotheist, but with each individual faction and subfaction focusing more on one individual aspect of the whole
>>97804819I don't mind it for warclans and to an extent gits, but ogres and gargants worshipping effectively a greenskin god always annoyed the fuck out of me
>>97804706Do these count for store delivery pick ups? I probably wouldn't buy from my GW local store unless it was online only deliveries or black library :(
hot take: i actually like white dwarf and will usually buy it if the content strikes my fancy(i bought both the 10 years of AoS one and the 50 years of GW one, most recently)
>>97804877Behemat was the Robin to Gorkamorka's Batman through a lot of AoM.Only religious thing we actually saw of Ogors is bowing to Ghur, not GM
>>97804913The contents of WD are the problem, it's more the paper stock they use being completely shit that makes me not want to buy them
>>97804913It's been so-so for a while for me, especially when AoS gets like 10 pages sometimes, but it's been a good stretch of Darkwater support and Armies of Renown recently tbhon I think it peaked in 2nd edition when custom warscrolls and battalions were posted alongside exclusive fluff and realm inspired conversions showcased. On top of Warcry stuff.
>>97804913I find WD's contents hardly any interesting. It reads like an advertisement booklet. Wish they would provide more self-contained rulesets like updated Skirmish rules.
>>97804946>It reads like an advertisement booklet.WD has been that since Bryan Ansell forced them to only cover GW games back in the late 80s
>>97804913I don't think anyone actively dislikes WD
>>97804976I couldn't be bothered enough to dislike it on purpose. I simply ignore its existence.
>>97804905you dont have to buy anything at all, i just stop by my local one once a month because i live near it for thesegreat kitbash fodder or painting practice
>Age of Sigmar came out in 1995Where does the time go?
>>97803835Soon. They were mentioned in the newest fluff piece on WarCom! SOON!
Hey anons could you post a QRD on how the last AOS game you played went?>wbuNo one to play it with here
>>97803963>Is WD as low effort and full of mistakes as Warcom?Unironically yes.
>>97805154I'm in a PTG campaign, I have a bunch of terrorgheists and the other guy was playing Tzeentch and had these nonsense artillery units from the custom unit creator. 4 attacks, 2 to hit 2 to wound, 3 ap and like... d6+1 damage or some shit. So I lost on like turn 2 when he completely tabled me. (artillery can also run away before combat starts on a 6+ with 2d6 roll)
>>97804913WD should come with the previous month's free mini
>>97805168If it came with a free mini, more people would certainly buy WD
>>97805154we played Noxious Nexus. OBR vs FEC. i was able to have a solid front line of morteks and my opponents zombie dragons werent able to charge over them because i screened with triaxes behind the guard. the game went over quite quickly as i sadly used all my resources to turn his monsters in to pin cushions, including ushoran.
>>97805168The Donald Duck comic weekly magazin business strategy
>>97805188It's been a staple of British children's magazines industry for decades
>>97804404They're such messed up potatos that you can get away with hacking their limbs into pieces and greenstuffing new poses
>>97805192It works. Piece of cheap chinese plastic realy rials the children up when on a kiosk shelf
>>97805154I played Lumineth Realm Lords against Ironjawz. He was winning for about half of the game as my twinkish shieldwall was no match for his Chadly adonises, but I prevailed when I just cast spells and shot them to death.
Still running the Blighted Wilds campaignVs Tzeench
>>97805222Tell your general to not lose his head
>>97805240Can't think about not spilling blood if you don't have a brain to begin with
For any flesh eater court enjoyers here, could you guys post some of your models, in trying to figure out what scheme and get ideas for how I wanna paint them, right now I just like the super pale necrotic and full rotting flesh with tons of blood, but I saw one that went like super dark tones with blue and purple
So now that we've confirmed AoS is being squatted but the models will remain, what kind of lore changes do you want to see your your armies in the reboot?
>>97805255People actually believe this...
>>97805255Thanquol would be the only survivor if this actually happened
>>97805261>>97805279Funny trolling but we shouldn't do this in case new people confuse your jokes for being serious
>"quick their thread is usable, deploy the low effort bait"can you TOWTRANNIES do anything else? jesus
>>97805286see>>97804299among others
>>97805255Honestly I might just burn all my models and record it for youtube, then be sure to pick up whatever the default faction is for the last world. I wouldn't want GW to think I don't support them afterall, but they just need to know I'd be very angry.
>>97805255Give all the races their normal fantasy names again
>>>>QUICK RAID THEIR THREAD BECAUSE IM ANGRY I HAVE TO PAY 80 DOLLARS FOR 2 DECADE OLD SCULPTS GO GO GO can you guys genuinely fuck off
>>97805154Almost 2 months ago now because I really only play at the monthly RTT. But I got so throughly spanked by OBR with my index LRL it wasn’t funny. Also brings my loss streak to around 15? Haven’t won a game since last summer, I know that for sure.
>>97805316Nah man the old world is great, it has all those classic characters you love. Like uh.... Well it has.... Uhhh.... IT HAS CATHAY! Any year now it may have Kislev!
>>97805154Our esc league fell apart because of too many people dropping out. 4th has genuinely been a disaster for our player engagement.
>>978051542nd round of Blighted Wilds campaign, Tzeench was wiping the board BUT I played the football better so I won
>>97805361I was about to ask if you were fighting the same guy as me but you were in fact not
>>97805334Who cares about characters in either game? Fucking herohammer dogshit.
>>97805385Trying Too Hard.
>>97805394Fuck off. I'm sick of named characters hogging releases. I'm still fucking livid that they made that stupid fucking named verminlord instead of a kit to build a skryre or moulder VL.
>>97805399Really Trying Too Hard.
>>97805402Go fuck yourself.
>>97805406>>97805394
So is GW mindset is just to nuke and reboot when shit starts losing money?
>>97805309I never get tired of seeing that guy's stormcast on squares, it's just a fucking paypiggy thing to do
the trannies must be having trouble dilating today or something with how much they're raiding
>>97805416AoS isn't even losing money
>>97805416We don’t have any hard numbers on AoS sales but we do know it’s struggling in mainland Europe since ToW returned. Source is the largest European mainland chain.
>>97805436I love AoS but it's obviously the tranny game, trannies fucking LOVE AoS for some reason. TOW is too chuddy for them
>>97805459nta not per my LGS, a bunch of trannies come in to play TOW, and they all talk about TWW during it
>>97805486Last time I was at the FLGS to play neither tow nor AoS nor 40k the only tranny was a massive unit like over 6 feet, obese and playing AoS. Not saying all AoS players are trannies but this massive tranny was playing AoS.
>>97805459what the fuck does any of this mean, it's all literally table top fantasy crap. Are you fucking people out of your minds, explain, explain what the fuck you even mean WITH DETAILS
>>97804225>i've always hated reality when it makes me doubt my choices
>>97805507I dunno ask trannies why they like AoS so much
>>97805486>>97805491both worthless anecdotes of no utility
>>97805528Oh I'm sorry I didn't know this was a university paper where I need to make sure everything i say is peer reviewed
>>97805532this is stupid, you're stupid. Fuck you.
>>97805528this entire fucking general is worthless anecdotes at this point LOOK at what's happening every thread
>>97804225>ive always hated this comparisonineffective denial will do that to you
>>97803995theyre literally made of anti-chaos magic, like seraphon
>>97805286>>97805436People playing transed Warhammer slinging tranny around as an insult is always the most funny and baffling thing. We play the lgbt/racie positivity game, you idiot! How the hell did you end up here not knowing that lmao
>>97805528welcome to every single argument on /tg/
>>97805164>I'm in a PTG campaignAre you using 4ed rules? I'm still torn between playing the current edition PtG since we won't get new one till mid 2027 or switching to 2ed.
>>97805507AoS is a setting where anyone can be anything and come from anywhere. This is the whole point of the "fantasy kitchen sink" design they went for. There is no dominant culture, no racial geography, no shackles of history, no limits on what you can imagine yourdudes or yourguy starting out as or later becoming. It asks the question, "what if magic gave us freedom from dialectical materialism?"
>>97805459Yeah, sure.
>>97805633We're playing with blighted wilds in a short(?) campaign. It's a bit of a shit show truth be told but yeah 4th edition rules.
>>97805642https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/30697-the-weird-story-about-how-aos-helped-me-go-from-a-toxic-egg-to-a-happier-trans-girl/
>>97805642Clearly somebody failed at gatekeeping.
>>97805642Shes hot whats her name
>>97805642>40k 7e core books setNice, I have one as well.
>>97805642It's nice to see GW sponsor a real life mummy to advertise Tomb Kings.
>>97805642>>97805648this is like playing with dolls but you guys just exchange stories of trans players to try and one up the other
>>97805459>TOW is too chuddy for themHow? They pozzed ToW lore too, McNeil inserted faggotry and more femknights into the Bretonnian lorebook.
>>97805664i dunno, i dont see any photo evidence of them playing AoS
>>97805673its still so funny to me that the first new brettonian book in over a decade immediately had a gay knight fuck a twink
>>97803835>So, stormcast. More than a decade later, how are you feeling about them and their place in the game?I think the 3rd ed resculpts + 4th ed Ruination guys finally reached a level of cool that made them feel like a real army instead of toys.I like them way more as scary, hard to know sentinels of order that the regular human protagonists interact with than as main characters themselves.All the Last World leaks seem to support them becoming even more like that, so I'm cool with it. I think SCE and Cities should arguably be one Empire-esque army, but with separate lists like Warclans that allow mixing.Why? Because that's how warriors of chaos are, and the more like WoC and the less like Space Marines they are, the better SCE will be.
>>97805677I will need a quote on this one buddy.
>>97805686>the more like WoC and the less like Space Marines they areBucko, what do you think Space Marines are?
>>97805664The reality is trans women are almost always nerds and autists, so they gravitate towards tabletop games and will be active in all of them.But the reality is also that AoS got the lion's share of trans players for a while. This has absolutely nothing to do with TOW, btw, because TOW didn't fuckin' exist. Trans players had a choice between 40K or AoS. You tell me which one of those is more chuddy lol.
>>97803835I think the idea of them being basically einherjar who lose more and more of themselves after each death is pretty good. I also like how their creation pissed off the god of death due to a technicality. That's great fantasy fluff.
>>97805686>All the Last World leaks seem to support them becoming even more like that, so I'm cool with it. I think SCE and Cities should arguably be one Empire-esque army, but with separate lists like Warclans that allow mixing.I wouldn't mind this, I also tend to enjoy either Stormcasts being relatively grounded or absolutely over the fucking top. Having them still be able to come back but now it's a bit more dire since there won't be any more stormcasts in theory seems like an interesting issue for them.They'll still probably have the anvil and the other guys, WHICH would allow the 2e stormcasts to get remade and be back as effectively now not only trying to solve the memory leak thing BUT ALSO try to figure out how to make more stormcasts.
Is AoS even popular? I still laugh at how they killed Fantasy Battle only for Total War and Vermintide to make Fantasy popular, I genuinely wonder what their thought process behind that after it got popular was. Also, is there any lore whatsoever to AoS?
>>97805701Being able to roll for 40k equipment cards on the gifts of chaos table was peak soul and they should bring it back
>>97805688aight i will cop to not remembering fully, but i was thinking of this where a knight was gay
Are we actually having the End Times 2 for AoS? Are they trying to set it on 1 planet again to try and "expand" the lore and setting or some shit?
>>97805710>TOW Book>Gay man>Warhammer in 2020sBut of course
>>97805705>BUT ALSO try to figure out how to make more stormcasts.The stormcast themselves, and their mortal assistants, can do it but it takes longer and they're less stable.Ruination guys become much more common.Stormcast *can* be reforged, but the process is very taxing and takes time, resources and human sacrifice/flagellation to achieve. It's very much NOT automatic, perhaps the new Sigmarite society has LOTS of SCE souls contained, but can only start reforging them in times of dire need because the cost is so great.Make the faction more like dreadnoughts, in that they're only reforged to fight in the most dire times, than space marines.
>>97805710Alphabet trannies can't help but push their degeneracy into every space they can and then cry >what do you care what people do in their bedrooms!?
>>97805716It's Gathering Storm, made to simplify the setting for retards who don't read. It won't matter though because they can't read and will parrot 1e hear-say anyway.
>>97805710>had a gay knight fuck a twink>It's a dead young knight that had a male lover
>>97805706>Also, is there any lore whatsoever to AoS?Bubbles of reality, basically dimensional planes that are infinite. Factions take portals from plane to plane to fight wars, sometimes there are small sub-planes between the big planes. It's amazing worldbuilding.
>>97805746So necrphilia too?
>>97805716>Are we actually having the End Times 2 for AoS?No unless they plan to squat 50% of minis and make AoS a r'n'f game.
>>97805751>I can't read: the postI bet you think you are very smart. Very common among dimwits.
>>97805746listen all i remembered is "GAY KNIGHT" and my head filled in "TWINK" from somewhere alright dont judge me,
>>97805731Shit I really didn't know Sigmar was that tertiary to the process now that's pretty neat.Fingers crossed for 5e being Ghouls vs Stormcast...
>>97805703My lgs has a sample size of one and she :) plays 40k. It'd be interesting to know the relative numbers on each system though. Aos may be the least chuddy game but honestly chuds and trans are drawn towards each other in a way. Nobody's fighting the culture war over aos y'know we got no secondaries.
>>97805760>my head filled in "TWINK" from somewhere alright dont judge me,I will do whatever I want, faggot.
>>97805766>we got no secondariesIt is funny how that works.
>>97805761As far as I understand; it wasn't always like this but instead something Sigmar worked hard to create as a long-term plan as a contingency.
>>97805761Sorry I should have said that was just my idea for The Last WorldIn current AoS, Sigmar doesn't handle the reforging himself but rather the Sacrosanct Chamber and the Smiths of Azyr do it around Mallus. So Sigmar is equally tertiary to the process, but the difference is that they have plenty of resources to accomplish the job.Sigmar *does* personally throw them as lightning bolts when they're teleported from Azyr though.
>>97805768listen im a seraphon player my entire army is literally just muscle(lizard)men and their pet twinks, my brain is fried
>>97805779I still figure Sacrosanct is probably gonna be the one that comes back in the next edition, models get squatted possible discussion of world changes with sigmar out of the picture which means there's no someone directly telling them to not be out there anymore.Plus the whole, Stormies vs one of the grand alliances bit so we'll loop back around to stormies vs death. (I'd also take NH if it meant maybe we got more Stormcast that got gaslit by Nagash like he was trying to do in soul wars, also could maybe break out the lightning gheists)
>>97805791They've released both Sacrosanct and Vanguard models in the new 3rd ed skinnycast armor for Underworlds, so the CAD asset files certainly already exist.
>>97805703So WFB dodged a bullet basically.
>>97805799Wait, which sacrosancts were brought back in UW...? Was that what's her face, sister of battle chick who got killed by Blacktalon?
>>97805750I know this is bait but the amount of people selfreporting as being retards who are mad at aos' realms for a version that exists solely inside their heads the last week or so has been hilarious.>>97805772No dawn of war or total war for us. I think we're better of it for it
>>97805808Stormcoven from Wyrdhollow.They're technically "Knight-Arcanums" and thus Warrior Chamber, but Domitan literally has the Sacrosanct logo on the head of his staff. They're totally Sacrosanct in design.
>>97805820Oh yeah, the Evocators right?
>>97805820Isn't the sacrosanct logo the anvil? I'll be real I'm severely lacking in stormcast knowledge but tbf a stormcast in a robe is still a stormcast in a robe so it'd probably be similar in design.
>>97805825They're like the knight version of the Lord-Arcanum, like how there's a knight version of the Lord-Relictor
>>97805829Yes it's the anvil, which Domitan is rocking on his staff (That shape shows up everywhere, like sequitor maces)
What's the most popular army in AoS?
>>97805820technically these are not sacrosanct, they are knight arcanums which are part of the warrior chamber
>>97805917Most likely Stormcast, narrowly.
>>97805917stormcastthen slaves to darknessthen reddit i mean skaven
cogfort
>>97805963
>>97805963...with a wizard on it
>>97805963I hope between the cogfort, gallants and gate gargants that CoS will stop feeling like such a glass cannon. Depending on cavaliers to be speed bumps just felt weird.
>>97805988cockfort if with cannons whizzfort if with mages
>>97805999it feels like this big update for CoS was built on the idea of "wow these guys don't really have any screens" so at least someone at GW is doing their job
>>97806016Drop Steelhelms to 70 for 10 and hope Gallants are 2W 3+ save for 100 for 5 and we might be cooking
>>97805810>People say this element of the setting sucks, and GW agrees and is removing it, but I know better than all of them. And it's good actually
>>97806052Whether the setting is good or bad, objectively it's been proven a hundred times over now that retards can't wrap their head around the realms. Literally too stupid to even begin to engage with the setting. GW had to fix the problem so they could sell to idiots that can't read, a very lucrative market.
Red, white, black or green glowing for Skaven eyes?Which do you prefer
>>97806052I think they could have pulled it off, but it would have taken some actual talent2nd ed Soul Wars era fluff was fantastic
>>97806080How do you glow black?
>>97806079Understanding the realms isnt the issue. Have you considered that people understand the realms and have decided they're just a fucking idiotic part of the setting? Of course you haven't, in your retard mind you've convinced yourself that people only dont like things you do because they dont understand them
>>97806080I've never seen skaven with white eyes. Its gotta be a tie between red and green though, leaning more towards green though if I really had to pick one.
>>97806086Didn't mean all glowing, meant greenglowing for warpstone corruption effect
>>97805254
>>97806091>I've never seen skaven with white eyesUsually plague monks who have yellow, pale green or white due to magic diseases/blindness for some
>>97806099dulling out the eyes actually does wonders here. gj.
>>97806088>Understanding the realms isnt the issue>LOL>LMAO
>>97805746He didn't even have a lover. He died before he could meet him
>>97805254Shit photo quality so I apologize but you'll get a general idea the lads.
>>97806088After years of reading various comments on the matter, most of the complainers not only misunderstand the realms but also have zero desire to understand. They prefer to simply engage together in hating it because everyone else does it, because it's fun and they don't have to think about it for too long. People have no issue with engaging with multiple realms of other fictional settings, IPs, you name it. Might&Magic, DND, MtG, etc are all various examples, it's not the realms that are the issue. It's both GW and the people not willing to engage in the first place despite having an opinion detached from reality. And again there's no consequence because who gives a shit.
>>97806119And just cuz I had this one, my ghoulgant!
>>97806052nta, but this whole ordeal is fucked up from all angles of approach because the people criticizing the setting are hung up on things that are straight up wrong assumptions or misinformation, while the solution gw has is not to improve the presentation and strengthen the worldbuilding, but to shake up the contents, and keep digging their graves with shallow and ineffective introductions.not to mention that reboots that are actually just timeline advancements only fix or hide the previous mistakes in the eyes of suits, the actual people who engage with the actual setting just end up having to work with and try to popularise multiple overlapping series of fuckups
>>97803835>So, stormcast. More than a decade later, how are you feeling about them and their place in the game? What would you like for them to retain, and what to change in the next edition/soft reboot/whatever?I despise them and want them DEAD. Scrub them from the annals of history.
>>97806128Can't speak to M&M but the mortal realms are extremely half backed compared to the planes and other settings of DnD and the planes of MtG.Hell in Ravnica's original block they still managed to make the plane more interesting than any AoS realm
>>97806088Patently ridiculous premise given that no TOWddler has ever expressed any understanding of the realms. They just do exactly what you're doing- squawk "they're bad and dumb!" and "a setting needs to be based on a real-world location to have DEPTH and HISTORY" ad infinitum without ever engaging with any facet of the realms beyond the occasional memetic reference to the 1e maps.
>>97806163You're right.Granted looking at modern day MtG, it's in a much worse place than AoS when it comes to planes and settings, and just writing in general. Ever since Theros the decline has been steep, yet gradual, and the RTZ was a first massive leap down.It's a shame, I loved the lore and realms of MtG... but now it's just a decorated corpse.
>>97804299OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE MOAR RUMORS YAAAAAYYYYYS QWEEN SLAAAAAYYYYYY
>>97806222CHECKED
>>97806222Why do you keep coming back
>>97806052>didn't even realise what part of it was the retarded version in their headPoint in case
>>97806129trans pride?
>>97806222Been a while
>>97806185>Ever since TherosAlaraZendikar was a meme and Innistrad was the beginning of themepark hell, dogshit plane.
>>97806258are you retarded?
>>97806260Why do you say Alara, specifically, anon?
>>97806270 NTA but >pastel pink >bright blue>whitei dont think anon is retarded here, especially since it was mentioned prior in this very thread
>>97806280He's green...But also typically there would be any kind of coherency in the colors to imply trans pride, these are just green ghouls wearing pale skin...
>>97806079This is the simple truth of it really
>>97806289>greenanon, that color translates to hex 73d2d4, which is definitely a blue, i dont think that anon is crazy to see it as blue, but i suppose you do have a point with coherency
>>97806312it is base Foul Green by Vallejo with a dry brushing of that with some white. I'll blame the lighting. I have an actual proper blue Garg but who knows how this shit comes through.
>the mortal realms are just too high level for plebs to understand, thats why theyre not popularI'm fucking dying over here
>>97806331ah, foul green, i know that one well, its what my skinks are done in. i never had a problem with it looking so blue so yeah, probably lighting.
>>97806340to be fair most average people are barely able to comprehend the original WHFB map
>>97806340>I'm fucking dyingjust like TOW lmao
>>97806340It's not that they are too high level, it's just your average pleb sniffs markers.
When does the app update with the new battleomes?
>>97806340They unironically are as this board has proven. They're shit of you do understand them too don't get me wrong, but they're undeniable a retard filter too.
Don’t know if anyone caught it, but apparently sculptors are in fact working in other studios when they sculpt stuff. So no one is exactly working solely on Aos or 40k or tow or HH stuff, they can rotate.
>>97806340There's a reason Forgotten Realms is D&D's most popular setting and not Planescape or Spelljammer
>>97806389I mean yeah, it's true for all artists in the industry. Like how the codex art for 40k is by same artist as the book art for current release of Trench Crusade.
>>97806397Most artists are freelancers these days, whereas most sculptors work in-house in GW still
>>97806393The forgotten realms have multiple planes
>>97806235>>97806259> SEETHING T(ranny)GA fags in shambles
>>97806397That's different, the guy was an in-house artist and then left gw and now does work for other projects, which is different from a freelancer doing work for whatever whenever, or an in-house artist moving from one project of the company to another project of the company, on paper or informally.
>>97806403Not really, all the extra planar stuff is Planescape or the Elemental planes, but Forgotten Realms geography and topography are pretty mundane
>>97806340They're just shit
>>97806419>but Forgotten Realms geography and topography are pretty mundaneSo the exact opposite of aos
>>97806424Yeah, that's why it's popular
how do you think skinks smell haha asking for a friend haha wouldnt it be funny if they smelled musky and sweaty haha
>>97806404I mean, we got cogforts dude. I'm happy as a clam.
>>97806475Ask twg, I hear they've got veritable academics on this subject
>>97806280Agumon would play destruction.
>TGA forum is too traumatised of rumors dropping randomly, souring people's hypes during reveals, or making moderation harder, so they now filter the rumors through the mods to have scheduled rumor dropsyou cannot make this shit up
>>97806558Kinda helps that GW dropped a huge preview for AoS this week, gives credence to the changes being mostly lore for 5e rather than killing off the whole game and ruleset
>>97806564None of the leaks have claimed theyre killing the game or ruleset. They have all been a world and lore reset.
>>97803835>TQI actively hated AoS when wfb was killed. Now, since TOW is back, I don't care about AoS anymore (I'm here, because I AM intrigued about this whole Last World rumors). I really hate the realm thing - I don't like cosmology with flat realms, realms that float on giant turtles etc. I like planets, where I don't have to wonder how gravity works, what is the sun etc.Stormcast Eternals is another thing that I hated about AoS. I hated the idea behind them - space marines in disguise. Blatant attempt to lure space marine players to AoS. Now sigmarines look kinda better than they did, but still - fantasy is not a place for space marines.Do I want them to be squatted? No. They are part of AoS and I don't feel the urge to actively hate them anymore, altough "dykes that need no man" is strong in this one. There are peope who like them and have armies of them, so who am I to demand erasing whole faction just because I dislike them?I would fucking rebel if they were introduced to TOW tho'.
>>97806587go spend 80 dollars on 20 year old sculpts with mold slip dude, get outta hereprops for not being a blind hater of all things AoS though i suppose
>>97806558Now to be fair it's a small forum that's gotten flooded recently and especially the last few weeks
>>97806587Surprisingly Stormcast were not very Space Marine like at all until very recently. And with 5e development they might actually just be discount Space Marines by that point.
>>97806597I have 7 armies and spent 200 bucks on Empire MTO, that you very much.
>>97806610Retard
>>97806610>Surprisingly Stormcast were not very Space Marine like at all until very recently.Bullshit of the highest order, get some awareness, it's free.
>>97806610In what sense were they not like space marines, or I guess how are they more like space marines than before?
>>97806649In the way stormcast are created in-setting and in how they act as characters.
>>97806496Digivolve into the tomboy you stupid puppet.
>>97806666only because you got quads
>>97806610>larger than life superhuman soldiers appearing like angels crafted by a god-king to go on a great crusade to reconquer the former territories of humanity, given the greatest armours and weapons and organized in discreet brotherhoods that may or may not have their shared innate quirks they even had their own fuckhuge pauldrons for the iconography, backpacks to give them power, and role or time specific armor marksthey were explicitly meant to be like space marines and gw was never in denial or subtle about it; the chances to make them different were ignored at every twist and turn:the fact they aren't groomed from childhood but mortals who have had their own independent lives and rose to heroic acts before they were taken to be made into sigmarines on death, and then risking to lose their own identity over time, should have been an ever present element of their designs, with highly personalised and characteristic equipment, heraldry and flair; that would have made them more like fantasy knights, more like chaos warriors with an inverse of their path to glory; but NO! they have to be fucking uniform because marines are fucking uniform and marinekids are too retarded to be handed tools to customise their miniatures or paint their stuff in more than one color, in a hobby about assembling and painting miniaturesdon't tell me stormcasts aren't like marines because I hate marines with a passion and it's impossible to ignore the marine shaped cancer in the unfortunate stormcasts
>VI – The Lovers: Choice, alignment>VIII – Strength: Courage, patience>IX – The Hermit: Introspection, wisdomAll makes sens, but how the fuck is Nurgle the Chariot (VII)???He's literally the opposit of willpower, he's the god of giving in and letting things happen.And he doesn't even have actual chariots!
>>97806735You've spent more time describing how they are different than how they are the same. But sure, I concede to a point that I never argued against, GW is lazy and goes for simple to paint design for their front-face product in AoS just like they do with 40k.
>>97806739Why start talking tarot out of nowhere?
>>97806735holy larp, all you did was describe how different they are and then complain about customization boogeyman when you can just do that yourself anyways
How are Deepkin these days?
>>97806739He also has 3>The Empress (III) is the Major Arcana card representing fertility, nurturing, nature, and abundanceI think thats more fitting, but they wanted numbers in sequence.
>>97806739slaanesh is six because of sexkhorne is eight because of hatethe other two were thrown around because they were halfway there, but didn't have real reasons, at best just vague associations, like the nasal sound of nine being easily attributed to the voice of a nerd or the number having the curves of tzeentch's flames and symbol
>>97806790Its the one and only elf faction with the shafted book this edition. Even daughters got some kind of juggling hero hammer thing that I still havent made heads or tails of yet, but at least its not a movment trick army that got power crept by lumineth.
>>97806778>You've spent more time describing how they are different than how they are the same.No, I described how they COULD be different, but gw never even picked up the ball.>just like they do with 40k.just like they do with marines, not 40k, be real
>>97806791Ok, that makes sens, especially since 3 is his realer number
>>97806785>when you can just do that yourself anywaysgw cut off the roads for that by making the stormcast designs so overly branded that any potential conversion or retheming of them ends up wrong, and also with prices like these I'm not going to close my eyes to the fact the products are missing the points of their own ideal characterisation, if they were a fairer basis for conversions I'd have granted you that, like I can with chaos, but that's not the case for stormcasts.
>>97806855Look anon if you want GW to hobby for you then- actually you're in the right hobby, what am I saying.
Any idea when we will get the new Ogors?
Do you anons use GW paints or do you get something else?
>>97806896either end of the year or early next year
>>97806914I've been using warpaint fanatics but Ill be honest the range is a bit of a hit or miss. I really like the metal paints though.
>>97806914Mostly yes. They're easy to get in basically any LGS i encounteran know what to expect from them.During Covid there as a world wide shortage of Chaos Black, so i just bought an alternative and the shade was all wrong an didn't fit with the rest of my army
>>97806914I still have some leftover GW paints but I've been steadily switching to TTC and AK.
>>97806914I've not used most GW paints in years, these days I use: Two Thin Coats (closest in color to citadel), Vallejo (bright), Huge Miniature (specialty colors), Army Painter (their new stuff is a massive improvement) and P3 (bright colors) for general painting. The only time I use citadel/warhammer paint is for dry-brushing and washing. Slaanesh Grey is the only paint I still use traditionally as I've not seen any company replicate it and I find it as a nice color for cobblestone.
>>97806664In how they act I agree, in how they are created in universe ehhhh yeah the "recruitment" is different, everything else about their organisation etc seems to mimic marines to an absurd degree. Like someone else pointed out instead of foundings they've got strikings, complete with their own reforging flaws, they got relictors instead of chaplains, celestants in place of captains, etc.
>>97806558TGA people fear the truth. Them hiding from it doesn't change what is coming. They should be like us and embrace the reboot.
>>97806914Pro Acryl and Vallejo are both fantastic. I would never use a GW metallic for any reason, they are so inferior to Pro Acryl it's not even funny. GW golds and bronzes look like SHIT.
>>97806959Well it doesn't matter as all the differences are slowly being phased out with each edition, which is a disappointment but I was never too heavily invested into Stormcast anyway.Shame we never got Hamilcar model.
>>97806739The chariot reversed :)
>>97806664>and in how they act as charactersWhat's the difference?
What is it about CAD sculpting that results in awful looking furs and cloaks/billowing cloth. Are GW sculptors just bad at their jobs or does hand sculpting have some kind of inherent strength over CAD sculpting that makes hand sculpted cloaks/fur look so much better?
>>97806855>he wants daddy GW to do his hobbying for himlisten i'll do the same and all i ask is that you blow me a few times a day, sound good, faggot?
>>97807128It's both. CAD is too clean and organized, while hand-sculpting allows for more natural disorderly flow.
>>97806784He's talking about the sacred numbers of the chaos gods, and I'm guessing the cosmological connection they have to major arcana tarot cards.I always thought the Chaos Gods were more connected to the Qlippoth myself
>>97807157This probably says more about me but I didn't realize there's small companies out there making minis that mog the fuck out of GW sculpts. I feel like I am discovering the edge of the rabbit hole.
>>97807167The issue with handsculpted minatures is that they’re all mainly located somewhere in Spain. At least mostly.
>>97807179or they're the same price (or even more than) as any gw miniature they're meant to replace so like, why bother anymore
>>97807179The ones I linked are based in Poland.
>>97806865>>97807136feel free to post your converted stormcasts anytime
>>97807187Because some of these sculpts mog the everliving fuck out of GW sculpts I guess. Like some of these make GW sculpts look like toys relatively.
>>97807188Eh from where I live thats basically the same thing in terms of shipping availability
This dabs on any HoH sculpt. Why doesn't GW just talent snipe and hire these guys or sculptors like them?
>>97807196yeah but then they clash with the rest of my shit usually or are specifically designed to fit more with TOWslop instead of AoS and ehhlike dont get me wrong im all for proxies and shit, i have numerous skaven ones but most of the ones you can actually buy outright in plastic (or precast resin) just dont do it for mei guess thats why i own a mars though
>>97807128Hand sculpted miniatures start from the whole and then refine the details, they're good for organic forms and coherent silhouettes Digitally sculpted miniatures start from the separate parts and are then arranged together, they're good for robotic and mechanical designs
>>97807209>This dabs on any HoH sculptholy tastelet
>>97807209>this "dabs" on any HoH sculptholy tasteless millennial, get with the times gramps
>>97807217Compare to the HoH mounted lord. The HoH looks like a toy vs >>97807209 looking incredible. Look at the boar, look at the texture. It's wild how hard this stuff mogs GW.
>the aelves are up to something
>>97807217>>97807220I can't tell if you guys are shitposting or not
>>97807225this looks way more visually interesting and like i want to paint it vs "le texture!!!!" covered generic chaos slop>"brooo i wish my chaos dwarves just rode around on pigs like the orks broooo its so SOVL!! the cool automaton is GAY!!!!!!"kindly neck yourself or go back to the WHFB thread
>>97807249>visually interesting and like i want to paint iWhy not just switch to hasbro toys instead? You can paint them if you prime them and you'd save a lot of money for a similar aesthetic and quality.
>>97807256you own no miniatures
>>97807256i think you might be a nigger and you should probably go back to the TOW thread if you want to paint generic fantasy sloppa shitlike are you genuinely a paid shill or a troll? i find it hard to believe that this is an organic poster
>>97807225>look at the texture.It's supposed to look smooth, it's like an animated gemstone.
>>97807262Not a shill im just shocked that a random company in third world Eastern Europe is putting out hand sculpts that put high tech GW CAD sculpts to shame.
>>97807272nah it's garbage and so is your taste, go back to twg
>>97807272>Not a shill im just shocked that a random company in third world Eastern Europe is putting out hand sculpts that put high tech GW CAD sculpts to shame.but it doesnt? unless you're a literal retard.
>>97806687Good.
>>97807282>>97807287Ok you are shitposting. My bad. I couldn’t tell initially.
>>97807312funnily enough I could tell you're shitposting right off the bad
>>97807312sorry to break your delusion anon but you really do have two dudes telling you this
>>97806080i usually opt for red eyes, if it's a grey seer or something sometimes i give them green/white eyes though
>>97807225This model makes me so mad I can't think straightI would have been fine, happy actually, with literally any direction besides what they went with>Fleshy creature? awesome>Mechanical robot? awesome>Fleshy-mechanical daemon engine? really awesome>Extremely angular golem-thing? AAAAAAAAH
>>97807656"NOOOOOOOO I CANT UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF ANGLES NOOOOO IT HAS TO BE A 40K DAEMON ENGINE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"are you retarded or indian or what
>>97807660What does "understand[ing] the idea of angles" have to do with it? I don't like how it looks, which is what matters.
>>97807656I’m not the biggest fan of the model but >Fleshy-mechanical daemon engineIs such a dogshit aesthetic for demon engines to take on. The only thing that the model needs are some chains embedded somewhere on the model, rivers, or even just having an option to remove the wings. Anyways I am curious what the lammasu will end up looking like now. Hoping smiths get it for the end of edition campaign.
The intellectual elite of /aosg/ have come together to make a series of pronouncements:>1. The mortal realms weren't bad, just misunderstood>2. Stormcast Eternals are not like Space MarinesFurther proclamations may be made as warranted. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>97807695>Anyways I am curious what the lammasu will end up looking like now.I'm sure they'll do something subversive with it that will piss me off and please everyone else.
>>97807696>Stormcast Eternals are not like Space MarinesThat's wrong.
Are Stormcast undead? Like the whole incorruptible to Chaos and Nagash being butthurt about them would make a lot of sense if they all qualified as being undead.
>>97807707Both are wrong, I think that's the joke.
>>97807660NTA but it looks like shit and he's reacting to that. Not our fault you're a pig who eats slop.
>>97805459Not necessarily. At the club I play at there's troons that play every GW game.
>>97807232Yeah, being sexy as fuck and plowing my ass
New DoK book is $82 dollarydoos. This is getting silly.2 hours work for a book is outrageous
>>97807909At some point there has to be a break right? They can't just keep jacking up prices. What are we doing $100 for each book by 2028-2029?
>>97807909The books are $60 msrp, $85 is the fancy one.
>>97807914I mean, I stopped buying battletomes in 3E. I can't boycott any harder than I already am.
>>97807926The writing in them, not the rules, but the actual prose of the lore sections has tanked in quality as well. Feels like everything is being enshittified.
>>97807923Dollarydoos. We get shafted
>>97807914Yeah it's pretty stupid. I'm thinking maybe just buy the cards
Will your faction survive the switch to 5th edition?
>>97808669no, all of them are getting squatted and in 5th edition the only units you can use are cogforts in the cogfort grand alliance
>>97807656Idk I like it, it's a statue come to life basically. Of all the new designs they went with for helsmiths it's imo one of the better ones. Certainly better than the new WoW blunderbusses.
>>97808688perhaps this is the moment we get rid of grand alliances for good
>>97808798They're useful as a way to vaguely organize factions at least
>>97808811not as long as elves stay in order, no
>>97808669I don't play straight dark elves in AoS so am fine
>>97807232I didn't understand the whole khaine plot. Why'd she tell the new Aelves of the mortal realms about Khaine and why do so in a manner that presents him as physically material rather than a spiritual idea? Why does it matter if Morathi is now a god because Khaine never existed to empower his supporters in theological war?It's just so stupid if you ever think about how AoS isn't just WHF
>>97808898She had to tell them about Khaine because she was leaching off Khaine worship for 100s of years through his iron heart
>>97807128Resin permits undercuts, plastic demands two part separation. GW will never accommodate detail over production cost minimisation so you'll never see elaborately tooled kits with multiple parts for small details to overcome the inherent issues of plastic injection moulding
>>97808898the cult of khaine had already resurfaced on its own before she found those elves, she just hijacked the cult for her own goalsalso khaine is a physical thing and did empower them, even by a small margin, their worship would have eventually put him back together
>>97808918Morathi and Malerion created the Aelves, alongside Teclis? How did they develop a religion before she encountered them (ignoring 1e lore obviously now non-canon)
>>97808882Shoutout to the ~5 people worldwide who did.
>>97808926Just count them as proxies for Freeguild anyway
>>97808924Morathi was explicitely left out of the elf resurrection thing because the other elf gods didn't trust her ass
>>97808924>Morathi and Malerion created the Aelves, alongside Teclis?no, the elven gods found small groups of elves living in the realmsthey captured slaanesh and started reusing the souls from its stomach because the elves they found weren't enough and because they had survivor guilt>(ignoring 1e lore obviously now non-canon)it is all canon stillthe elves morathi creates from the souls taken from slaanesh are the snake-tailed and bat-winged ones, all others are from the group of elves she hijackedshe didn't receive a large sum of elves to fashion into her own servants because despite helping with slaanesh's capture, morathi wasn't a god
>>97808946Not quite. When she creates the Scäthborn she makes them with a drop of her blood mixed in. If she just pulls the souls she makes regular Witch Elves (and doomfires)
Do you.>Buy the tome and the cards>Buy just the time>Buy just the cards>Buy nothing and pirate Don't feel like spending the money on this, it would be better just chucking it onto my mortgage or buying more shares
>>97808987the only aos books I have came from bundles and army sets that I couldn't offload to someone else zero value
>>97808987I bought a book once when I was new to the hobby and then never again. They're fun but not nearly worth what gw charges for them. If they come in a bundle (that's also a discount without it) I won't complain but otherwise no
Fresh rumoursloppa:-Archaon will kill Sigmar (again, our source also said in a way that's 'disgusting', more than what Boole let on).-This leads to Stormcast going crazy, and even fighting a civil war against CoS. Celestant Prime also potentially dies here. Due to Sigmar's death they can no longer reforge.-Azyr is gone, but before his death Sigmar merged the rest of the realms.-1000 Year timeskip, mortal characters will be dead. Some will be brought back (no details on how) or we will find new characters that coincidentally are too similar. Others will become generic models.Models will be fine, no squatting.-Game will be called Age of Sigmar: The Last World-This change is done to make the setting more approachable to 40K/WHFB fans, and to sell us new models with the new aesthetic.-Previous lore will be largely ignored. It's a hopeless new world (a la 40K). It's not a 'soft reboot', it's a new world that will coincidentally share armies with the old realms.-Most characters will not remember what happened during the transition.-It's not '8 realms on a map', it's them all stitched together into something resembling Medieval Europe and the WFB world. Some landmarks will remain, but mostly in terms of name. They're bringing in a lot of WHFB-like locations like 'Nine Peaks, a Duardin hold overrun by Gitz and Skaven'. Current Cities of Sigmar will be placed on the Europe continent and populated by medieval Germans.-Stormcast Eternels can no longer reforge, so instead of reforging, they will inject Sigmarite/Sigmar's essence into highly trained mortals to refill their ranks. They will also burn hundreds of wizards every day, but we don't know the purpose.-CoS is fully empire/imperium.Xenophobic against all other species, religiously fanatic and split into Aqsha/Ghyra who worship Sigmar (he's dead) and Taal respectively.(Cont.)
>>97809087Pt 2-Both CoS and SCE will be searching for pieces of Sigmar and Sigmarite (think Ur-Gold). New Stormcast will have more skulls, litanies, candles, soul-fire, purity seals, and loincloths like Grey Knights or Black Templars-No real mention of Beastmen/Beasts of Chaos-The 'not-Cathay' faction are potentially evil nomadic snake-worshippers who worship an Eastern divine Snake
>>97808987Either buy second hand, for a pittance or pirate.Bought multiple GHBs in 3rd ed and my factions book, before realizing buying books is pointless, especially considering people dump scans before release.In 4th ed, I got core/spearhead book from skaventide, because the other guy didn't want it. Got objectives from latest GHB with a few minis, that were sold for so low, I thought the buyer stole them and pawned
>>97808987Pirate. FAQs after a few months render chunks of the book useless
>>97809087>They will also burn hundreds of wizards every day, but we don't know the purpose.Oh, fuck off. That bit is too on the nose
>>97809087>>97809092So stormcast are rewritten to copy the gimmick of Fyreslayers lore?I thought they would be made Stormcast Custodes
>>97809100It really is. Either that or karak "nine peaks" lmao. I believe the other rumours but this stuff not even the biggest /wfg/ grog aos-hater could come up with.>>97809114That + space marines injecting sigmar's geneseed power. I don't have much faith in gw's writing team but surely even they aren't as big of a hacks?Surely...
>>97809087>>97809092>GW themselves have become the people living in a dark age of ignorance who do not possess the knowledge to invent anything but ritualistically copy and maintain the things that were handed down to them knowing only that they work but not understanding how
>>97809164Don't forget those copies degrading over time as the imperfections from rehashing start to pile up.Say what you will about aos' realms, at least it had a different angle. This just sounds like fantasy but worse, what's even the appeal then?
>>97809174>This just sounds like fantasy but worse, what's even the appeal then?Ah, but it's Fantasy AND 40K
I don't fully understand the reason for making this change to the world. I get wanting to make it more streamlined in a way that it's more easily recognisable, but were the different realms really that hard to understand?If Capeshit fans can understand the MCU's version of Norse mythology with its different realms/worlds why can't potential wargamers? Is the target demographic really that stupid compared to normies?
>>97809184Two things:First, the realms have genuinely proven to be too hard to understand for the average normie. Take a look at all the previous /aosg/ threads since the rumours dropped, or the various bait threads in the catalogue. The majority of people from outside aos genuinely don't seem to understand them and thinks they're infinite pocket dimensions or something. Not that they're suddenly good works of worldbuilding when you DO understand them, but still.Second, as >>97809164 pointed out current gw is incapable of creating something new. Everything they do is a rehash or a reference to older stuff. Their ip is now built on nostalgia rather than anything else, and it's doubly funny because they're selling that nostalgia to people that weren't even around the first time. You see this very prominently in 40k these days, the new starter box is just a "reference" to the 2nd or 3rd edition box.
>>97809184>but were the different realms really that hard to understand?as someone who has seen the same misconceptions for over 10 yearsapparently, yes
New Rumourslop
>>97809257wtf is ulfenkarn doing on the not-shyish continent
>>97809087>>97809092>the mortal realms were all a bad dream and this is the Warhammer world after the nebulous time skip of the end timesI'm not sure the normies will eat this up anyway, but welcome to the club, /aosg/
>>97809257>They don't live among themOh piss off
>>97809257>>97809261Ulfenkarn isn't even a thing anymore
>>97809257>a period known as the Dark Timelmao gw are such hacksanyway, this version sounds a lot better than the other one >>97809087>>97809092
>>97809261some parts got mixed in the cutting and stitching, evidentlyI'll celebrate if har kuron is gone
>>97809257at this point it is comical how much this reads like a bad fanfiction.
>>97809257>not!cathay>not!kislev>not!brets>not!nipsI don't believe for even one second that gw is going to have 2 parallel ranges of all those factions for both aos and towso they either added those in to convince people to proxy or convert their tow models to play aos, or they're genuinely leaving the door open for a change in the policy that's keeping these settings without cross compatibility the interesting things are that not!cathay are evil snake worshippers and that they also added not!nippon to me that says that they're eventually tackling nippon and kureshi snakemen in either aos or tow at one point
>>97809257I'm getting flashbacks from when we first started hearing things about aos after the end times.It is not a good atmosphere, but it's still better than it was back then.
>>97809315>>97809315>>97809315new
>>97809257So they are just going to delete all the named CoS characters?
>>97808987For years now the only battletomes I own are from army bundles. The books and cards are worth zero money.
>>97809257Somehow, Boole's version sounds slightly less retarded, though that's not saying much. GW are hacks either way.
>>97807696I just bought Warhammer: Realm of Ruins video game and finishe first chapter. Playing the game I had ABSOLUTE feeling I was playing dumber version of Dawn of War II - same vibes. Stormcast Eternals felt EXACTLY like Space Marines.>b-but it's a video gameYeah, but approved by GW.
