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Had a Cyclops get KOd from a head hit, fall prone, and then get DFA'd, which displaced it off the board... This fucking game sometimes.
>>97807602Now post the game room.
Aerospace question:Is unit composition a lot more standardized or is it as flexible as it is for ‘Mechs?
>>97807721There's a lot smaller variety of chassis and things usually operate in aero lances of 2 same variants instead of total fucktotal comps.
>>97807721How aerospace units are even arranged is a lot more varied (what is a Wing? What is a Squadron? What comprises a Flight? The answer is different depending on who you are), but as the other anon said, it's usually matched groups of at least two of the same chassis. Personally, I arrange all my vehicles as pairs. My tank Lances/Platoons (what you call a group of 4 tanks also changes depending on who you are, but to a lesser extent) are all 2 pairs.
>>97807644Begone THOT!That's pretty funny anon.Last game I had a completely untouched Dragon eat charge which the first roll was a floating critical to the side torso... nothing in there but ammo. Boom.Fucking Dragons, they always die when I use them.
Matched pairs is a thing
>>97807841Last game for me was a turn 1 shot 1 gauss rifle to the head of my commander's mech from a hidden unit.
>>97807850Cultured anons call those "demi-lances".
>>97807119>>97807137This man has fought and bled to keep the ideals of the Republic. He has sacrificed, been brought to the brink of death repeatedly, continues on only through sheer will - and replacement parts. He can't let people see a broken down old man, can't let the scars show. He has to be a shining paragon, whole in body, soul, and mind. And so he has done what has to be done to be the hero he has to be, that the Republic needs right now. Not in the future - he doesn't expect to live long enough to see his dreams bear fruit - but right now when they need him the most. To be an inspiration that will bring the light to others.He pilots a "Star Crusader" and seems utterly devoted to the machine. He does all the cockpit maintenance himself.
>>97807902>the ideals of the Republic.Forcibly disarming subjects in a galaxy full of dangers the Republic can't protect them from, then abandoning those people to hide behind a wall, followed by inviting their enemies to 1v1 them inside only to fucking lose and end up handing the Inner Sphere to Clan Wolf while having a big chunk if the surviving RotS forces flip to serve the rump Third Star League...Big damn heroes, I tell ya.
>>97807902>He has a Blakist machine only kept in museums on Terra and only put back in production after the Stoners die.You what mate?
>>97807919Stoners have always been evil garbage and lost fools. It's what makes them fun, and also makes it fun watching them suffer and die.
tattletechprattletechrattletechcattletech
>>97807932Brat-tleTech. Uppity lolis in their big machines thinking they're so above the PBI - until the anti-mech jump infantry put them in their place.
>>97807919Unfortunately for the stoners, despite humanity naturally wanting to end the forever wars after countless years of lost lives in the untold billions, they forgot one thing:The game is called BATTLEtech>>97807947Now we're talking.
>>97807947Make them big black Elementals with massive thick cocks, and I'll buy your product.
>>97807947Are the anti-mech jump infantry also uppity lolis?
>>97808019Only their commander, but then Hanse got to her.
>>97807841Get this: it was by an introtech Assassin of all things. We were playing an old FASA campaign based on Apocalypse Now, and the Cyclops was the Colonel Kurtz stand-in. He did get to blast a Vindicators head clean off with an AC/20, so there was at least that.
this look familiar...
>>97808011
>>97808072>what if we take AS and Classic, combine them into a worse game, then make people play the game with ugly robots that cost ten times the Battletech buy-in and market it to the shittiest player base in all of wargaming?Who in this thread really fucking cares what GW does?
>>97807932>cattletech
huh
>>97808308Boy, Soý Wars fell off.
Is the IS successful as a setting, in terms of big enough to make up something new to fill up the space or create temporary stakes yet comprehensible enough?
It's much better than classic and alpha.
>>97808318What is this
>>97808321A homebrew battletech system that adds more granularity to Aplha Strike. Like individual weapons and simplified hit locations. Also the dreaded PILOT DIE.
Good morning fellow BTGers, what wholesome shenanigans are we up to today?
>>97807602My flgs has two sister stores and, for some reason, only the sister stores get stock and restocks of Battletech products despite nobody ever playing games at the other two.
>>97807602
>>97808425lol. that picture is dumb. urbanmech is THE warcrimes mech, no way anyone is walking up to it and tagging it.
Going through one of my lot purchases, I've got a Mauler with no head and only one arm. And of course Mauler parts are not in the scrapyard section of IWM. Annoying.
Do plasma cannons mounted on vehicles and protomechs require heatsinks and amplifiers?The boggart seems to imply yes for protemechs, while I may be misreading the recognition guide, since I can’t find any stat sheets for vehicles like the plasma pike which tell me it’s number of heat sinks.
>>97808576Yes, they are treated as energy weapons for the purposes of heatsinks and amplifiers (Tech Manual pg 235)
is the plasma rifle the pinnacle of directed energy battletech weapons?
>>97808616They're about to drop a light and heavy plasma rifle, so no unless someone relapses on their addiction to sidegrades.
>>97808554>THE warcrimes mechWouldn't that be the Firestarter or Vulcan? Or the Amaris Whitworth variant exclusively armed with inferno SRMs.
>>97808665The MG Catapult.
>>97808665nah, those are just silly and retarded. urbanmech is for brrrrrtttt-ing down an entire school with the student body still in it, cover or not.
>>97805431Capitalism doesn't solve all issues magically.
>>97808693it took us roughly what 70? years to go from cowboys and stage coaches to the jet fighter and bomber. another 70 years later and we're about to kill ourselves with fucking skynet.once something is 'cracked' it acelerates rediculously fast.hell steam power was a fucktonne ago, 1900 and before, the steam engine. now we use fuckig nuclear reactors to heat our steam kettles instead of mere naked fire.
>>97808665There is that one Sunder config designed with nothing but warcrimes in mind?
>>97808693Small hat pogroms do.Look up Spain Golden Age.
>>97808722samual?
Which mech('s pilot) was that who repayed some kids throwing snowballs at him with coolant?
>>97808743B A F. eat toxic poisonous burning hot slime, assholes
>>97808677
>>97808740Yup machine guns, flamers, inferno SRMs and an ER PPC for anyone that tries to run away.
>>97808743A Locust pilot from a Galedon Regulars unit
>>97808677>>97808786Ion sparrow dose this better.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
Clan Invasion (~3052) CJF star; I got the Shadow Cat, Summoner and the Bane 3 so far. What other 2 should I add for ~9000bv star?
>>97808718Yeah and world's first economy cannot sustain it's basic military needs without robbing literally every single country which were purchasing their weapon.
>>97808868Squeeze a Kit Fox and Hellbringer in there.
>doesn't fall down anymoreThe state of Grogtech's future
>>97808904that's not a captalism problem. that's the us being the worlds only superpower after ww3, and all of its 'allies' proceeding to spend the gdp they should have upon their own defence on retarded welfare programs instead, forcing usa to play world police. hence the petro dollar, etc. to pay for it all. and on the subject of 'robbing', get fucked. the US's "allies" have been assfucking it with so many fucking tariffs and import fees to deliberately stick knives in their 'allies' back ever since ww2.
>>97808868Knowing exactly how much BV you have left is kind of important, but I would lean into the second line thing and go with Incubus and Horned Owl
>>97808801I did not ken the Uon Sparrow was ICE powered
>>97808922I'll keep using the normal rules. We play with many TacOps extra rules. Removing rules has no appeal to me.
What pushes the timeline forward? Just the novels?I don't mean historically. I mean right now. What is creeping us forward because my understanding is we've been in the current era for 20 years now.
>>97808971Succession wars hit the gene pool hard.
>>97808976Sourcebooks and accompanying novels
>>97808988When was the last time we moved forward in our time? Not necessarily era-wise. But what is the most recent lore? Obviously ignoring gothic.So I can direct my hate.
>>97808976I'll tell you this much: it isn't advancing by the will or desire of the playerbase.
>>97808976Pure, sweaty, shameless, cringe-worthy clan fanboyism.Because "the clan invasion had to pay off"
>>97809002Ilclan Sourcebook and all the following ones since: Tamar Rising, Empire Alone, Dominions Divided, and IlKhan Eyes Only, in that order
>>97809005Are clans the primaris marines of BattleTech? Are people still waiting for them to be retconned?
>>97809008we're waiting for them to be exterminated and their shit thoroughly disseminated throughout the IS. vatborn freaks aren't even human. they have no souls.
>>97808971>we wuz samurai
>>97809006Thanks. I'm making an attempt to "live in the now" so to speak since I've spent the last month consuming these stale Funyuns we call novels.
>>97809008There is this one retard who always complains >>97809020 clanner slapped his mom and she left him.
>>97808976The final destruction of the RoTS and it's replacement with the 3rd star league is quite new, and explicitly marks the end of the dark age and the beginning of the Ilkhan era.
>>97809008This is not 40k, clanners are nothing like primariesYou need to actually read the lore and have an understanding of the Star League through to the Late Invasion Era.
>machine guns can damage mech armor>when a real world tank cannon wouldntHuh?
>>97809048Ablative armour.
>>97809055An m16 is nowhere near as powerful as a tank cannon.
>>97809048Modern ammunition vs an outdated shell, it's like claiming "a dart from a gun can harm a tank but the ball from my 32pdr cannon cannot"Also, vehicle scale machineguns in Battletech are 30-35mm cannon, roughly the size of an A10's main gun.
>>97809048Do these look like the kind of people who would have any idea what a tank main gun round could or could not do?
>>97809055Ablative armor so fragile that it should be getting pulverized to dust and falling off the mech just from the impact of walking around is probably not reasonably useful.
>>97809064Conventional infantry machine guns, not even crew served, can damage mech armor.
>>97809048Battletech had a breakthrough in material technology.Each round is engraved with an argument about real physics in fictional weapons. It is the densest substance discovered so far.
>>97808927>elect most libertarian government>that's not a captalism problem.Every time>proceeding to spend the gdp they should have upon their own defence on retarded welfare programs instead,How exactly it's related to US taking ammo other countries purchased from US military industrial complex and rerouting all shipment to CSF enclave without returning payments?
Can everyone just take a moment to remember that standard armors aren't purely ablative in-universe and aren't even purely ablative going by the rules alone(light rifles)?In-universe and according to the rules it is also supposed to be capable of deflecting projectiles harmlessly on occasion.Battletech's armor is ablative in addition to being capable of acting as conventional all or nothing armor.
>>97809091>vast welfare state>constant and often completely unnecessary state intervention in business and personal life>all the regulations>taxes on everything>libertarianThe united states is barely more libertarian than the taurian concordate, that being barely more than not at all.
>>97809106>>vast welfare state>>constant and often completely unnecessary state intervention in business and personal life>>all the regulations>>taxes on everythingPretty much late stage of libertarian society. Government (which was endorsed by lbertarian party and movements) runned by real-estate scammers and failed celebreties.
>>97808119>uglyLol
>>97808571Chop it up and make destoryed mech terrain.
>>97808966>Removing rules has no appeal to me.Good for you love
>>97809141Thank you.
>>97809121That's not even what anyone trying to be reasonable claims is a negative "late stage" of libertarian ideology. Are you stupid?>ah yes, feudalism, the late stage of communist society
>>97809085Again, that is down to the massive amounts of abstraction, in reality it's special anti armour attachments, man portable launchers, and AT grenades. If you read the MechWarrior 2 rules then you will see that only dedicated AT weapons harm mechs.
>>97809048Its a setting where hitting a mech with a tree can cause considerable damage. Don't think about it too much.>>97809062M16 isn't a machine gun you homosexual.
>>97808554Betting on people not being stupid enough to do something is a foolish bet.
>>97809157>That's not even what anyone trying to be reasonable claims is a negative "late stage" of libertarian ideologyHow exactly it isn't?>>ah yes, feudalism, the late stage of communist societyFeudalism - agrarian societyCommunism - industrial/post-industrial society
>>97809161Buddy a shotgun, SMG, bolt action rifle and semi auto pistol all do different damage to armor, to say nothing of various laser weapons. It's not grenades.You are conflating a setting being something you like with a setting being high powered, and reaching for conclusions not supported by the mainline text.
>>97809161I love abstraction. It's the playground of imagination.
>>97808571You can message them and ask. I got pieces that way.
>>97809202The lowest of those is the baseline grenade damage. The higher one's represent rifle grenades, under barrel launchers, special shells, etc. imo platoons should have 2 damage groups, one for soft targets and one for armoured targets, rather than CGL's attempt to roll them into one value. Read the rpg rules, small arms quite literally do nothing to a mech bar maybe scratch the paint, and even man portable launchers do very little unless fired enmasse
>>97809198Because it isn't? How could it be?You're just asserting a completely unrelated, ideologically antithetical state is the natural result of it. A socialist state is not late stage libertarianism, stop being silly.
>>97809225The plain text of the main rule book says one thing, the second of five RPG editions says another, who can say which reflects the reality of the setting.
>>97809241Mechassault 2, obviously.
>>97807516When tf did Stone fight Ward?
>>97809252It was an alternate plot line they never went with.
>>97809227> How could it be?1) Elon Musk said so so all good libertarian must follow2) Privatization under the pretence of the federalization3) Tax cuts4) Welfare cuts>socialist state>USA under KushnerLiterally pick one
>>97809258Probably would've been better end tbhon
>>97809260>a rich guy said something so>any privatization makes a state libertarian>any tax cuts makes a state libertarian>any welfare cuts makes a state libertarianThe soviet union in the late 80's and early 90s was not libertarian.>Literally pick oneI do not need to pick one, being mildly less socialist does not make a state no longer socialist if it is still overwhelmingly socialist.I see I've been speaking to a lobotomite, so I won't bother anymore.
>>97809283>>a rich guy said something soLiterally the highest merit by libertarian standards.>>any privatization makes a state libertarian>>any tax cuts makes a state libertarian>>any welfare cuts makes a state libertarian>>anyLet's not pretend oligarchy is "any">The soviet union in the late 80's and early 90s was not libertarian.Soviet union wasn't. Russian mafia state on the other hand... they even have PMCs.>being mildly less socialist>mildly
>>97809246
Why have we never got a combined arms RTS for Battletech? Would be sweeeeeet.
How authoritarian is the Taurian Concordat? I remember someone here once posted a detailed list of all the shit they do after getting fed up with the space Texas memes.
>>97809314"He went that way"
>>97809319If mechcommander lived longer it might have eventually became that. But the sun has set on both RTS and battletech by then.
Reminder that this single statcard invalidates the existence of the whole setting.
>>97809319Probably because it actually would suck. There's been a few mods that tried, Rusted RTS has a few, and in each case either mechs become irrelevant or everything else becomes worthless fodder.
>>97809344>Probably because it actually would suck.Yes yes, the world sucks, nothing is ever good. Now fuck off, mate. >>97809330Someone should resurrect that.
>>97809344The wargame series would actually be perfectly suited to a battletech overhaul if anyone actually wanted to go through the titanic effort of attempting that, but it would obviously work much better as a dedicated title in the series built to be a battletech version of wargame.
>>97809349Mitch Gittleman wanted to get the mechcommander license since the game has sentimental value to him.Microsoft was not interested.
>>97809362Modding existing wargames might be the only short term solution. Especially in games with more abstraction.Battleplan might be a good candidate if they will not drop the ball on modding.
>>97809344>These mods are bad so a full game would be badRetard-sama...
Can someone toss me the audiobooks for Shell Games, Honor's Gambit and Rock of the Republic?Thanks :)
>>97809349>Asks why something doesn't exist>Gets an explanation why it might not work and could be a bad idea>Gets mad that not every post is going to be dicksucking his ideaRetards like yourself are why we have ilclan and dark age.>>97809362Something with Wargame mechanics would be interesting but also highlights the exact problems could face making it fun especially since trash decks do exist. As entertaining as it would be I don't think seeing the equivalent of say constant Vedette spam is going to be fun long term. Wargame isn't also that easy to mod and if serious might want to use something like Regiments as a base as you can at least use Unity to modify that.>>97809370Microsoft once they got hold of an IP are never going to let it go.>>97809393Really also depends what kind of RTS you want to make. Are you going for something more on the grand scale or close up action style? I did personally think about modding World in Conflict into a Battletech game and it did seem like it could be promising but would take a lot of effort to make right.>>97809413>Thinking critically is badand this is why you'll never get a Battletech RTS because nobody takes the time to look at other projects to see what they did wrong but also did right. Which is why there are so many projects people start that they didn't think through and get abandoned because they realize what they've come out with is an no unfun mess that would take too much effort to fix. It's honestly like the Stargate curse at this stage.
>>97809514Yes yes everything sucks, now off ye fuck.
I've been wanting to do a Dark Age era project for a while and I think I've decided what my Republic Remnant force will be.The bulk of the force will be Republic Standing Guard, so that'll be all my mechs, vehicles and infantry, led by a Knight of the Republic (mech still undecided lol) supported by Fidelis Battle Armour and Protomechs with maybe a Clan mech or two, with any super-heavies like the Ares belonging to the Triarii (mainly because a red and gold Ares would be SEXY).
Pic is our table from 1st battle in Hinterlands campain. I got swamped with rules and enemy and forgot to take more pics.Each of us had 2 mech and some auxiliary forces.
>>97809514>Replies to 5 posts at once>Wall of textOOOOOH he mad!!!!
>>97809535SOVL!
>>97809535He had more reinforcements and I kinda fucked up deployment so in the end he completed his objectives but had taken some loses. I on the other had almost lost my leader and fail to use SturmFeur tank in any meaningful way.And I fucking hate offboard artillery hitting on unmoded roll.
>>97809535>Obligatory Alpha Strike ain't real Battletech postSo what forces do you remember bringing if don't have pics?
>>97809562>>97809535That board looks awesome! Hope you had fun anon :)
>>97809551>>97809562I made trees and rocks(wip).My force was Adder prime, battle cobra G and that tank. He had his mechs plus Condor & savanna master and some hover infantry(very fast). Got bit overwhelmed there plus my bad rolls made his hovertanks do all the scouting he needed for mission.
>>97809569It was fun but also lots of fear and bit frustration.Overall it was important lesson.
>>97809566He had Assasin and Enforcer iirc but not sure on that second mech.
>>97809527>(mech still undecided lol)Put him in a Blade you fuck!Or a Lament, both are kino choices.
>>97809612Don't know if you have a pic?
>>97809527Add in some tough as nails Northwind Highlanders who are stranded beyond the Wall and fighting alongside the Remnant.
>>97809645No, only those 3.
>>97807516Getting some gems from the Japan X auto translation breakthrough
>>97807516Anyone got higher quality version of this art? It's sick.
>>97809712
>>97809514Dark Age ain't that bad.
Any other campaign books or supplements to read to get the storyline of the Republic/Dark Age?Field Manual: 3085Historical: Wars of the Republic EraOperational Turning Points: Capellan CrusadesEra Digest: Dark AgeMechWarrior: Technology of DestructionDark Age: Republic of the SphereDark Age: Republic WorldsDark Age Turning Points: LiaoTurning Points: IrianDark Age Turning Points: VegaEra Report: 3145Spotlight On: Unending FaithTurning Points: Epsilon EridaniField Manual: 3145Shattered FortressIlClan
>>97809724
>>97809847Oh hey a Mechwarrior player. Rare sight these days.
>>97809847Vile and depraved; all gods piss on FASA for their weakness that allowed such evils to ever exist. How dare they die!
>>97809949I'll click your tech.
>>97809949Blame this retard in chief.
>>97809949Trying Too Hard
>>97809949(You)
>>97809949It's just what they're doing in Japan idk
>>97809847I'm waiting on the Mechwarrior starter set I got on ebay to arrive to try it with a mate. Opinions on it, anon? Qrd?
I'm keen on getting into battletech. Our LGS has never heard of it. Is this a good place to start?Jew tube: watch?v=EJVRUb2vZN4
>>97810424No.
>>97809527>my Republic Remnant forceFucking why?
>>97810738Not him but i see the appeal.in playing stubborn holdouts who refuse to accept their nation is dead
>>97810738They're one of my fav bits of Dark Age lore and I've always had a soft sport for stubborn holdout/remnant factions.
>>97809712Japanese friend says these are the mechs in this book
>>97810310It's different than Classic and inspired parts of Alpha Strike. If you've played a 'clix game, it's a 'clix game. If you haven't, then every unit has stats arranged on a wheel that turns when they take damage, changing the stats and abilities of that unit. Usually better stats degrade into poorer stats, but sometimes you need to take a few points of damage to use an ability that's only present on a few clicks of the dial. Speaking of, the physical dials are sometimes too tight or too loose, which makes clicking the dial (hence the name Clickytech) a pain. Mechs have an additional heat dial that gives their stats maluses on additional actions. There's an excellent archive of all MW:DA material out on the web, including all rules and dials. If nothing else, it's a good reference. Overall the rules are simple and short. It's points based, with each unit having 3 variants (Novice, Regular and Elite) of differing points cost and stats on their dial. The biggest hurdle I'd say is that it's a combined arms game. Mechs are big and the focus of fire, but until later expansions weren't really that good. Infantry, tanks and other vehicles play a much larger role than in Classic or Alpha Strike.
>>97809764Technical Readout - Dark Age I also suggest the Field Report(AFFS, DCMS, FWLM, LCAF, CCAF, Clans, Periphery) series and Objective Series(AFFS, DCMS, FWLM, LCAF, CCAF, Clans, Periphery) which are in game dated as 3079, but detail the state of each nation as they are after the Jihad and entering the dark age. good for early dark age settings.
Miku mechs WIP
>>97811008I think warhammer and wolverine got mixed up.
>>97811551I don't think pink works well as glass. Try very dark green / black or grey instead to reflect her uniform. Actually just in general having green bodies means you see Migu as just her hair alone.
>>97807919Everyone who controls Terra has a debuff to being reasonable, and most also get an intelligence debuff.
>>97811092>The biggest hurdle I'd say is that it's a combined arms gameThe combined arms aspect of Battletech is my favourite part of it on the tabletop so that's no issue for me hahaThanks anon. I'm looking forward to trying it.
>>97811672You've never seen any miku merchandise or the official depictions of things like miku race cars, have you? White, black and grey are highlight colours, teal is always the primary with pink being used for lights and glass.
>>97811551Cool mechs! I love their colour xister, well done! Come on anons, let's all encourage them to keep going! They need some support :D
>>97810953Eh, fair. I don't get it but to each man his kink.
>>97811551Ohime-sama's better be Steiners.
>>97811551Looga is superior
I need some help with expanding my force in pic related, want to do WoB in Jihad/tottaly not wob in hiding mercs in ilclan era type of thing.So far I got comstar comand box, Victor, Locust iiC, Gladiator, schreck ppc and Maxim hovertank and 4 bases of normal infantry.Is there any other box that would complement this well? I was planning to do combined arms force with Celestial mechs I'm about to print plus Manei Domini cyborgs/BA(if I find any good models) and some LAMs.Oh and dont worry about those 2 guys, I started them before I decided to make WoB.
>>97812445Star League boxes, ex-Comstar should have access to any of the oldtech rides from 2750.
>>97812445The Buccaneer is still used in Solaris, so if you want your totally-not-WoB to have a few Blakist designs that they could pass off as not belonging to the WoB, there's one to add in.
>>97809091>>97809106>>97809121>>97809157>take economic model, the underpinning of all human trade since forever>pretend a johnny come lately political ideology perverting it is the same thing as it.Tell us you're a communist without telling us you're a communist.
>>97812445You're essentially in the same boat I was some years ago. If you print, there are some neat files for WoB machines, or the easier targets for Force Packs are the IS Support Lance (Cyclops, Thug and Spider are all WoB-compatible machines and you have the Dragon as an extra) and the IS Battle Lance (Warhammer, Rifleman, PHawk and Wasp are again all WoB-compatible).It's a pity CGL avoids giving anything for Comstar/WoB and instead does useful stuff like, I dunnow, Battlefleet Gothic.
>>97812493It's also a FWL machine and they never stop using it.
>>97812466>>97812493>>97812529Ty for answers but I might worded it wrong, what I meant was not in terms of mechs(I'll get other comstar box and some prints for that) but in vehicles/support units. Are there some I should avoid or is there box that have all wob related vehicles that work fine for them.
>>97812560It's still a Blakist design though, and thus haram is much on the IS.
>>97812592If Comstar were smart, they would have applied their patented sword-shaped-hatchet technology to it. Maybe then it would have stayed with fochtstar.
>>97812613It's still a Blakist design though.
>>97812621It's a comstar design, the blakists were just the splinter that actually made it first.
>>97812637>>97812621>>97812613>>97812592>>97812560ComStar designed, Blakist produced. ComStar never got to produced it so it's basically a Blakist design, plus they altered it a good bit before production so it's Blakist-coded at least.
>>97812560Comstar laid the groundwork but Blakists altered and produced it. It's a WoB design with Comstar bones lol
Hot Spots: Draconis Reach 05/13Snowblind 07/01?
>>97812678And produced in the FWL, used by the FWLM from the start, and continued to be used by the FWL remnants and reformed FWL.
>>97812704Which changes what I said not one bit :)
>>97812704Wrong. It is. Produced in the FWL by the WoB using materials produced in the FWlL, not directly by the FWL.
>>97812725>it's not produced in the fwl, it's just produced in a preexisting fwl factory on a fwl world using fwl parts, which it had to be specially adapted to because its production is in the fwl, where it remains in production long after the blakists are gone
>>97812790>FWL materialsWhere's it say factories or on FWL worlds, anon?
>>97812790Yeah, and none of that changes the fact, like OP pointed out, that it's a Blakist design based on Com* prototypes lmfao
>>97812807Literally right there in your snippet where it explicitly says why they had to redesign it. Irian Weapons Works, Diverse Optics, and Starflash are FWL brands.
>>97812823And unlike all the iconic ones that get you pegged as some kind of nublakist if you dare use them, it's still in use after the Jihad, all the way to the current era.
>>97812833>League produced parts>materials produced in the FWL>THIS MEANS THEY MADE IT IN FWL FACOTORIES!>THIS MAKES IT A FWL MECHOk buddy.
>>97812840Gibson Federated Battlemechs did not spring up from the ground overnight. The Blakists did not tow the world of Gibson from somewhere near Terra.
>>97812839And that still does not change the fact, that it's a Blakist design based on Com* prototypes. It ain't a League machine anon. And never will be. There's literally nothing to debate here lol
>>97812850Then stop debating. You'll just have to ponder why it's on FWL MULs from its introduction into ilclan.
>>97812857>T-then just stop debating! Ha! You lose!I accept your concession.
>>97812840>>97812850The 3R is still available to the FWL as of current year, so yeah, it is a FWL mech. Also, as >>97812846 points out, the blakists contracted an existing FWL manufacturer to produce the design. That's how quite a lot of blakist mechs got built, you'll find. >Originally a prototype ComStar design that had never entered production on Terra, the fifty-five-ton Buccaneer was swiftly adapted by Precentor Martial Trent Arian to use materials produced in the Free Worlds League, where the nascent order had established its base of operations. >Gibson Federated BattleMechs, a division of Free Worlds Defense Industries, rushed the modified design through an accelerated trial program, and the Buccaneer entered production in late 3055.
>>97812865Okay, keep debating then.
>>97812874>Also, as >>97812846 points outDon't samefag.You can see in pic here >>97812725 that is literally is not. It is a ComStar prototype, turned into a Blakist design.It might be USED by the FWL, but it not a FWL machine. It is a Blakist machine, used by the League.
Oh boy. I see someone used a screenshot from the sourcebooks as proof. Here comes the hours of arguing over something that is either proven or disproven in said screenshot. I shall see you all in a few hours when I check back in. Hopefully this blows over by then.
>>97812897Altered to use FWL parts on a FWL planet in a FWL factory run by a FWL company owned by another FWL company. Gibson is in Regulan space.
>>97812915And yet, it is still a Blakist design based on a ComStar prototype :)Should we keep repeating things to each other and hope the lore changes to fit your retardation eventually?
>>97812924I notice you have yet to address any of the actual points against your argument. Where is Gibson? Who are Gibson Federated Battlemechs? Why is it using Irian and Sunbeam weapons and not a single listed manufacturer from outside of the league?
I want my BK to have melee weapon buy this is the least fantasy looking weapon I have.Yay or nay?
>>97809070Guy on the left with the vest is local, and he used to be a tanker on an M60, so yeah. One of those people in that picture has a pretty good fucking idea what the main gun on a tank could or could not do.>newsflash: a whole bunch of ex military guys don't look like they're military
>>97812944Black knight can only have a sword or sword-shaped hatchet. I don't make the rules, that's just how it is.
>>97812940I see you've yet to realise that it's a ComStar prototype, changed and produced by Word of Blake. Just because it is made in FWL territory or used by FWL forces post-Jihad changes nothing. You, in a very literal sense, cannot deny this. It is the truth of the matter. It is a Blakist design, that is used by FWL forces in later eras. That changes fuck all.
>>97809241>who can say which reflects the reality of the setting.I can, because my opinion is objectively correct.
>>97812960A rather relevant statement given the current tard fight unfolding around us.
>>97809339Explain exactly why a Union Dropship invalidates the setting, anon. Be specific.
>>97812944Looks fine, imo. Mace shaped hatchet, I guess?
Uh...anons?
>>97809591>>97809562>>97809535As long as you were playing with Classic and not Alpha Strike rules, I love this. There's no excuse to be overwhelmed by rules if you're playing Alpha Strike, because there's barely any rules and it's a game intended for children who aren't old enough to post here.
>>97812955>>97812968I don't play classic BT. Alpha rules don't have this restrictions.
>>97812945In my experience, ex-mil guys can also be pretty ignorant concerning the equipment they used, so that may or may not actually mean anything.
>>97812958It is also used by FWL forces in the era it is first produced in. On a FWL planet. In a FWL factory. By a FWL company. Using FWL parts that it had to be specially changed to use because they were the most available.Many mechs can be attributed to more than one faction. The Buccaneer is not special in that regard.
>>97810832Based American. The confederates won the war and killed your country. It just took them 150 years to do it.
>>97812976Uh oh. Right off the bat, the FWL had some. And that's not even addressing the ones they have after the blakists all go bye bye.
>>97812999>>97813023So the WoB GAVE these mechs to the FWL? Hmm, it almost sounds like it's a ComStar prototype, altered by the WoB and produced by the WoB and used by FWL forces after the WoB decided to give them some. So it's an altered ComStar design, produced by the WoB, used by the FWL. Which is what I've been saying.Glad to hear you finally agree :)
>>97813023Nta but >The Blakists give some to the FWL as part of a technology exchange>This makes it a FWL design???
>>97813040>produced by the wobfor the WoB. By a FWL company.By the way, do you argue this much about the Thunderbolt being called a Lyran mech even though it was originally built on Tikonov? Only the original commissioners can be attributed the mech, correct?
>>97813056Anon your own post >>97813023 and this post >>97812976 has proven you're wrong. How long until you take the L?
Don't really know why this was unseen, too close to the rifleman?
>>97813054On FWL machines using FWL parts by a FWL company, with continuing FWL production and use after the WoB are gone. Almost every well known mech in this entire fucking game is more well known for being used by a third or fourth party from the nations they were originally made for. Iconic mechs that we easily attribute to the Lyrans or Fedsuns or Cappies were first made by someone else. The fucking Cataphract is more associated with the Davions than the Liaos and all they did was capture the factory.
>>97813070
>>97813074Answered my own question, it was a VMI design.
>>97812967When you plug the numbers into the rocket equation, you get some astounding numbers.Exawatt range drive powers. Fuel power densities that exceed matter-antimatter annihilation. High-relativistic exhaust velocities.The Union-class dropship outputs hundreds of megatons of TNT per second.The drive plume is God's own blowtorch. You don't need Asset Management Weapons - the Union can vaporize continents, or warships, or small moons by pointing the exhaust in their vague direction. You don't need terraforming solar mirrors to thaw out a frozen hellball of planet - just park a Union in high orbit to fake a Sun.In fact you barely need a K-F drive with this tech level, you could just hop systems in subjective weeks-to-months if you just slapped a bit more fuel onto the thing.And random yourdudes operate them by the hundreds.
>>97813077Just because they used it doesn't make it their design. The Buc is a Blake design, ask anyone this. Just because Combine use the Ymir doesn't meant the Ymir is a Dragon design. It remains a Lyran Battlemech.I don't even know why I'm getting involved. This isn't my hill. I don't even like the WoB.
>>97813081None of this changes the fact it's a ComStar porotype altered and made, as said here >>97812976, ESPECIALLY for the WoB. Your L, sir?
>>97813088>>97813096Is the Thunderbolt a Lyran design?
>>97813104Not a Lyran, but it is USED by them. Like how the Buccaneer is a Blakist design USED by the FWL.
>>97813088Most people understand that a mech can be in two factions. Especially if both factions make it. Especially especially if one faction makes it specifically for the other. There are Hermes II made and modified especially for the Dracs. That doesn't make it an exclusive Drac only design just for Dracs and only associated with Dracs.
>>97813111Ans that's where your entire argument falls off a cliff. Nobody ever makes this much of a distinction about mechs. Especially not in-universe, which is what this all started with. If someone post-jihad sees a Buccaneer, they're not going to go "Aaaaaaahhhhhj, a Blakist, run for your lives!"
Someone is baiting here, and I can't tell who. It might even be both anons baiting each other. Whatever the case, shut up both of you and post models, or better yet, games.
>>97813120>Nobody ever makes this much of a distinction about mechsI accept your concession. Your L, m'lord.
>>97813124Hey, the SLDF shouldn't be fighting with the dracs, what's going on here?
>>9781313752nd Shadow Division vs ComGuard Heretics. I know the 52nd isn't painted correctly and I'm currently redoing my force to be more accurate, mainly with the red-to-black fade on the legs :)
>>97813146Nono, that's an SLDF mech, they made it.
>>97813157Oh, you're trying to rope me into the tard fight unfolding right now. I see. Clever. (You).
>>97813162I accept your concession.
>>97813124I can't help but feel the Black Knight will win that fight lol>>97813177Please keep the rest of us out of your down syndrome slapfight.
>>97813157Glad to see you're seeing sense, anon. So you admit, if that's a SLDF design, that the Buc is a WoB design USED by the FLW?WONDERFUL! At last :D
>>97813203Take this argument and apply it to any other mech and people will just call you a retard, tee bee haich fampai.
>>97813207The only one they'd call a retard is you for trying to deny what is clearly stated in lore, sweety.
>>97813209>Still no Celestials PAIN!LIFE IS PAIN!
Gacha time
>>97813124Who won?
I find this very amusing when two of my Buccaneers are painted for FWL forces and one for mercenaries. Maybe I'll get one for the Blakists.
>>97813240Com Guard :(Their objective was to kill the Ascended Manei Domini before losing a certain number of models, which they did. In fact they destroyed 3 of my 4 units.Was not a good day for the Hands of the Master.
>>97813222Just recently got into the settings and Comstar/WoB has been my absolute favorite part of it. I need those evil sinister satan mechs.
>>97813244Considering it's a Word of Blake design, yes you should do one up like a Blakist. That would be cool! :D
>>97813259I'd pay a stupid amount of money for plastic Celestials. Even if they were spread out throughout various packs I'd still buy them. I'd consume like fuck.
>>97813265Who said you were allowed to talk to normal people? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical.
>>97813319Trying Too Hard
>>97812944No. That mech mace would be like, 35 - 50 t or some shit.
>>97813322Well stop trying before you hurt yourself. Where's your handlers anyway, you've had enough computer time for today.
>>97813335Aww, what's wrong? Bitter and seething over the fact I showed everyone how much a retard you are? It's ok. anon. I still like you :)
>>97812955Swords were never the primary weapons of 'knights'. Ever. They were the back ups. The emergency. Like a pistol today is to the infantryman.
>>97813341All I'm hearing is that I need to give my Black Knight a lance.
>>97813341Black Knight is a proper noun. And it should only ever have a sword or a gun.
What's the bullshit I hear about them rewriting the rules this year?
>>97813364They're rewriting the rules this year.
>>97813364We're moving on from 5.8th edition to 6th.You may proceed to recoil in horror at your convenience.
>>97813341Making definitive statements about what people across multiple continents over a thousand year period were doing makes you sound stupid, not smart.
>>97813400>makes you sound stupid, not smartIsn't that just every statement on 4chan?
>>97813087Once more, we lament that the setting's creators and writers do not in fact, know anything about basic sciences.
>>97813104The best thunderbolt is. 10 S? Or 12S?The ilclan era one The LCAF have is just fucking nasty.
>Blake Worship>Cybernetic Troops>Terror Tactics>Remote Controlled Suicide BombersThe Circinus Federation really were really almost as bad as the WoB by the time of its destruction. I mean, fuck, the Master was really fond of and close to the Federations leader by the time of his death.WoB Periphery Edition.
>>97813223Question about these legendary salvage packs, I seen this in my LGS I think it was 2&3 version.Are these any different in terms of models or just pilot card or something else?
>>97813252:( indeed
>>97813479They're the exact same, they make these things by salvaging failed sprues for whatever is still good. The model and card is identical to what you'd get from the actual box.
>>97813400Or educated. Because if you actually go back through history, it is correct. Swords were never the primary arm of the 'knight'.
>>97813500So there is literally no fucking point to them is there? Why would I want them instead of merc/is or clan box?
>>97813473During the Jihad they attacked the Marian Hegemony, there was Manei Domini, terrorist attacks, massive invasions, Cybernetic horrors, the Cohors Morituri got a time to shine, they NUKED the capital and killed the Caesar and much more. The Space Romans had a really awesome plotline during the Jihad and it feels like no one even knows :(
>>97813513Better than there actually being anything unique behind a gacha wall.
Has the Raptor-II appeared in anything period since 2013? Is it cursed to be dark age jihad unobtanium?
>>97813517>it feels like no one even knows :(I know, they were up there fighting for spot as my second army but they have pretty boring paintjob so WoB has won.Cool story thou, I like periphery factions more than any house.
>>97813517Because it was all the Marians fucking fault. They literally said "Thanks for teaching us how to make Battle Armor, Robebros. Now, GET OUT!" So the whole thing just seems like retardation they brought on themselves.
>>97813563I adore the Hegemony :) >>97813564SLANDER!
>>97813553It's a famous Stoner mech so usable all the way to literally 2 years before current timeline. No wait, checked the MUL and still super available in the DA to tons of people.
>>97813583*in the ilClanNot that ilClan isn't DA part 3 anyway.
>>97813517I love how Julius realised how fucking insane the Word was and how bad it was to work with them, gave their contracts to ComStar and asked them to leave...and in return they atomised him and aided their enemies in launching an invasion of the Hegemony. Let it never be said the WoB are spiteful or anything.
>>97813513Kinda better than them going into a woodchipper. In theory you can do funny grinders or have them as prizes for games, but they're not really set up correctly for that either.Sometimes I'll pick up one or two if they're in stock if I wasn't planning on getting any 'Mechs from the packs in question; other than the time I got a defective one with a Galleon in it.They'd make more sense if they were things like bugmechs or evergreen designs; or if they had like a sticker you could peel off to sort them by weightclass at least.
>>97813588He was a double moron for doing that AFTER he saw them burn all of the MoC to the ground and occupy it with just 2 fucking Divisions.
>>97813618He did it before that. He "asked" them to leave long before the Jihad.
>>97813479The Legends 1 mechs are what people are aiming for, and the 2, 3 ones are 'sorry try again' shits to lower your chance getting what you want
>>97813577KINOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>97813510ok buddy
>>97813713Not long before but yes, before their actions in the MoC.
Reminder that other Periphery WoB results went like this.>MoC: Never picked C* or WoB for their HPG's and made them compete piecemeal.>Their capital burned.>Their entire country conquered and held.>Their people put into re-education camps.>Mysteriously still have a bunch of cyborgs after the war is over.>TC: Sided with WoB to the bitter end.>Got their capital rocked.>Got a war started with the enemy they've wanted a war with for centuries.>Get gifted a warship.>Warship bombards the capital of their enemy duke like they've wanted since the Reunification War.>Breaks the Feddie's biggest shipyard and wrecks two fedrat warships in direct combat.>Get away with the whole thing scott-free and still have their ship at the end of it all.>Pirate Star Cluster>The inmates began to run the asylum.>Circinus>Full on Wobbieland.>Get the Titus treatment.
>>97813510Wow! I didn't realize we had such a well travelled immortal in this thread! It's really amazing you managed to survey the armaments of every group of elite cavalrymen across Europe, Asia and north Africa from the year 400 to 1650. Especially since so many battles were happening simultaneously.
>>97813778>>97813734Go ahead. List one. One.
>>97813713>>97813746Just double-checked my copy of JHS:3072. Blakists took Crimson in April, 3071 and began their rape of the MoC. Caesar gave his big final refusal and got nuked in June, 3071.Just realized they blew him up on the 6th of June. Fookin legends.
>>97813757Almost forgot.>OA>No Wobbies>Gets CLANNEDNo worse fate, really.
>>97813809He'd already gave their contracts to ComStar and asked them to leave before that, his death occured in June I believe Either way, I don't think he can he blamed for wanting them out and not expecting such a terrible respone.A big part of the Jihad is that no one expected the WoB to go so far or do such terrible things.None could have really predicated the erasing of a city imo
>>97813793ok buddy
>>97813974I want to say him kicking them out occured in 3068 or 69 and is talked about in Field Manual: Periphery perhaps? Not sure and can't check right now. Either way I'm like 95% sure it was in the late 3060s.
>>97814015I have FM Periphery but I'm too lazy to check rn
>>97813984You can't. Congratulations on admitting your loss.
>>97814090ok buddy
>>97814015>>97814023As the dude who looked up 3072, I went further back. It's not FM:Periphery or FM:Updates. HB: MPS says he started dragging them into court over no-bid contracts in 3063 over skimming (which they were doing) and the locals being mad about them probably fucking up the 3066 Circinus invasion (which they did). I see nothing about totally tossing them out, though. I suspect it's in DotJ or 3070.
Update the Japanese are printing these
>>97814255So, checked DotJ and JHS:3070.DotJ just mentions Bronson's Horde defecting to the robes, kek. 3070 just mentions Caeser picking a fight with the FWL. Really looks like he never fully ejected them. However, it seems like Wobbies started their launching of raids on the MH in March of 3070 just to fuck with them.
>>97814311Nice
>>97814311Always good to hear from Uncle Heavy Gear.
>>97813081Chasis is "standard"Armor from the locally produced LocustSRM-6 from Irian´s GuillotineERLL from the Wolvie -7MMPL from the CheetahComSys from the OntosT&TS and ML from the Archer -4M
>>97814501>locust armorGrim.
>>97814520I mean, its the locally produced Kallon FWL Special Ferro-Fibrous. The diverse FWL companies were using it for multiple models.https://ndmc.miraheze.org/wiki/Ferro-fibrous_armor#Kallon_FWL_Special
>>97814311They have acesst o the SMB files. I gifted those guys a modified printed Shad model, wich they llater painted. The Kashiwa group are all good guys.
The escape pod and lifeboat rules for dropships say that each of them are only really for 6 people. Is there a single one of them actually designed to have enough of those for all of its crew and passengers, or are we looking at Titanic hours only.
>>97814311If Battletech takes off in Japan because it doesn't need near as much space as games like Warhammer, that'll be hilarious on its own.But CGL being thrown into the situation where the biggest Japanese faction is the fucking Draconis Combine is going to be one hell of snare.
>>97814741Battletech already took off in Japan, but it was left hanging in the mid 90s. Once in a while they get someone to fan translate newer stuff.
>>97813757>Get away with the whole thing scott-free and still have their ship at the end of it all.*AlmostYou forgot the Calderon Protectorate broke off, stripping them of several systems directly and ones in between went independent from a lack of power projection, the closest inheritor of their founding house thus leaving them with Grover Shraplen and others in charge, and the Pleides hasn't been a real stable area for the last ~100 years.
>>97814311I'm actually heading to Tokyo in a few weeks and was wondering what shops would carry Battletech or Battletech related stuff.
>>97814769Yeah. So CGL has to deal with the most Grog of Grogs, in addition to their internal wingeing over the Draconis Combine's depiction.Is that not one hell of a snare?
>>97814785My understanding is that most of them only care about Steiner and mercenaries because they like German asthetics and "mercenary" is one of those cool titles like "bounty hunter" or "agent" that boils down to "protagonist" more than what it's supposed to mean.
>>97814777Kashiwa Miniature Forest, they usually play Battletech once a month.https://entropicdreams.com/2024/12/18/kashiwa-battletech-workshop/There is another big group in Osaka.
>>97814801The Internal Wingeing I was talking about was CGL's. Not Japan's.What with all the years of "Relatability = Ability to Self Insert" writing push across most franchises pushing CGL's management to assume the Japanese would look towards the Japanese faction.
>>97813588Those who bless WoB will be blessed, those who curse WoB will be cursed.
>>97814587Is that SMB? I thought SMB's version was blockier
>>97809976>neither wise, nor a man
Does anyone make a Cronus TD9 knockoff or am I going to have to look into conversion?
how thinned should my paints be?how many coats should I have to put on?will painting red over yellow give it more of an orangey color than a purply one?
>>97815207Thick milk.2 coatsNo it will make red more warm an saturated.
>>97813577
>>97815240All of the actual Japanese in universe even moved into Lyran space at New Kyoto
Newfag here. Anyone know what these circled numbers mean?
>>97815240>>97815245The draconis combine still has large groups of ethnic japanese that adhere to the state culture, the founding house of the draconis combine is itself ethnically japanese.
>>97815061I think the TD9 diverges too heavily for you to get a dedicated model and you'll need to go the conversion route. Most Cronuses would lean to the PPC to cover the base model and 3M variant, rather than the TD9's claws.>>97815207>how thinned should my paints be?Some people will reference the paints acting like Skim Milk, but that's not always the easiest thing to judge. You want the paint to go on smoothly, but neither being really runny/watery or globbing on.Standard Brushes give a fair bit more room for tolerance compared to an Airbrush here. You can control the amount of water on them if you have something soft like toilet paper to brush them on after rinsing them off, which can in turn adjust the paint consistency on the fly. While an Airbrush you have to make sure you got the right thinning so it all flows right.Of relevancy, you need to make sure that if you are using a brush you don't pick up too much paint. Matters little how thin the paint is if you slather the brush in it and slop it on the model. You want to dip only a little bit in and wipe off a little bit of the excess. Even if it doesn't last long before you need to dip the brush back in, it's easier to manage than if you try to go all in at once.>how many coats should I have to put on?Depends on the paint. Some colors go on easier than others, and this can vary strongly from brand to brand. What primer you use can matter for this as well, as painting white over a black primer takes more layers than over a grey, beige, etc. primer.>will painting red over yellow give it more of an orangey color than a purply one?As above, depends on the paint. >>97815233 is right that it will be less of a mix and more adjusting the red's brightness. If you are looking for an orange, you could mix the two (Wet Palettes are good for this), but I'd really just bite the bullet and just buy 1 of each of the primary and secondary colors, a white, a black, and a metallic grey/steel.
>>97815259Those are for the to hit rolls for the weapons. Pulse lasers and kicks are easier to hit with, punches are harder, etc.
>>97815265Oh gotcha. So medium pulse lasers get a natty buff to hit
>>97815280Yes, as do all pulse lasers.To hit penalties or buffs are not always intuitive based on just what the weapon is, so I would suggest looking into weapon stats.
>>97813713>>97813809>>97813974>>97814015>>97814023>>97814255>>97814320Figured it out. They were ordered to leave Hegemony space in the late 3060s, and their contracts were given to ComStar. What few stations they kept control of were heavily watched over by ComStar and then, in retaliation for his "betrayal" and to aid their allies in the Circinus Federation, they blew up Alphard in 3071.
>>97813757The Concordant sided with the Blakists?
>>97813732>>97815244Thanks anons :) they're 1st Legio with a small Cohors Morituri force of cannon fodder. I really need to expand these, I've been hyper focused on my WoB lately.
While people are taking about the Space Romans, IV legio comitatensis are supposed to be maroon with orange details/trim. Would sigvald burgundy work as the maroon colour? If not, does anyone have any tips for an easy maroon colour, or better yet a maroon primer?
“For Terra, and for mankind, we forged a path of deliberate evil so that we could save the Promise our Master offered them. Praise be those of our souls who embraced our worst to show the ignorant what true and total war is like. They fell upon their swords proudly, that we could shepherd our own to safety, for the time when the Inner Sphere needs us anew. Blake eleison!”Kino
“Some might call us monsters, in the same fashion as all weapons of war are seen as monstrous. But what we do is for the betterment of all. We accept this responsibility willingly, exchanging our very lives to the Master and his vision for a greater glory all might one day share. That is what it means to be Manei Domini. That is our legacy for the future.”I love the trope of a warrior who neither enjoys nor hates war, and who has no ambitions of supplanting his master, instead he merely does what must be done for the greater good. Somehow, pitying the Frails is worse than hating them lol rather condescending.
“Our time to rise again will come. Maybe not as we are now, or as we were during the Third Transfer, but it will come. That is Blake’s Will. That is the Master’s Promise! With each iteration, we come closer to the day of that final great conflict, the one that will end wars not for twenty years, or fifty years, or a century, but for a millennium at least! As Apollyon is my witness, we shall not fail!”I hope we get to see more of Mot someday. There's a few references to these newer generations of Manei Domini taking part in undocumented assaults or invasions on uncharted worlds. Interesting.
>>97809048>light rifle = modern tank gunThis is some absolute bullshit, to believe that a modern 120mm gun only does 50% more damage than a fucking .50 cal to shit other than BAR10 is fucking ridiculous. The damage scaling in Battletech is one of, if not the most ass pulled cope that gets contradicted by the writers and then they double down on it (XTRO:1945)
Where did they goooooo? I need to knoooooow :(
>>97815468It's very sad, they were totally wrong about how safe their new jump tech was and they all misjuped into a star.
>>97815458Not to mention that the light rifle's stats are completely fucked from mass, size, and ammo per ton
The hidden world Taussen was working on improving and pushing the boundaries of travel. If they could have refined the Super-Jump Drive and made it perhaps not a one use per jump, the WoB could have went anywhere...
>>97815322The Blakiats false flagged the world of Samantha with an asteroid launched from the Erineyes, but had Fed Suns engines strapped to it. So the Bulls went apeshit and the Blakists conveniently gave them a Warship, the Vendetta, to help. In the end Hansen's Roughrides nuked a bunch of Taurian worlds in response. Then the Concordat split in two.
>>97815457>There's a few references to these newer generations of Manei Domini taking part in undocumented assaults or invasions on uncharted worlds. Interesting.You should read the opening fiction to Interstellar Players 3.
I feel like it'll be a decade or more in real tine before we see anything else from the Domini, the WoB colonies or the Stólos Umbra :(Also interesting what the AI says about the Clarion and Jumpships, did they know about the Wall and the Fortress?
>>97815501>did they know about the Wall and the Fortress?Read A Bonfire of Worlds. All that Stoner shit is literally stolen Blakist tech from Liberty Station.
>>97815508True, and they talk about how even they wouldn't have done this. The Clarion is Blakist tech then, like Stone said. Curious.
>>97815493I will never not cackle at the irony of the Taurians of all people getting outnuked by a bunch of two bit mercs.
>>97815513Stone did it. He thought his republic would be able to pick up the pieces of the Successor States falling apart. But like anyone surrounded by kissass yesmen for more than half a century, he was so fucking wrong.
The rules change looks more forced change for the sake of change with each passing day.>We removed X ruleWill it be in a different book?>We don't know yetWill it affect vehicles?>We did not think about it yet, maybe. Just use total warfare.So the new rules will break the game in half needing 2 different core rule books with conflicting rules at the same time for the same units for who knows how many years.
>>97810424>>97810731If not this, can you make any suggestions?I'm trying to introduce others too, and saying "here, read this 300 page pdf" is off putting to most non-autistic people. I've had more success introducing new games to groups via tutorial videos rather than homework.
>>97815393Tamiya has a maroon primer iirc
>>97815441>>97815451>>97815457Faithful endure.
>>97815521I agree. The important thing is we all get really mad about the new thing before it comes out, just like our favorite youtubers always tell us to.
>>97815529U missed the purpose of 300p rulebook. It's there to filter out unworthy and women minded.
>>97815588They will probably try to force it as mandatory tournament rules.
>>97815615How? Nigga just use your own rules for your tournament.
>>97815615Believe it or not CGL has people shilling their newest products at local tabletop events for scraps or completely for free.They will be forcing those rules at the table.
>>97815521for example?
>>97813757>Get away with the whole thing scott-free and still have their ship at the end of it allExcept, of course, the absolute hammering that Hansen's Roughriders gave them after the Taurians murdered their dependents
>>97815672>Worrying about the state when you can just read the Vendetta campaign of la la fuck you fedrats.Where's your sense of fun and adventure, anon?Also, I hate these new captchas.
>>97815664Skidding, ammo dumping, underwater range tables, clearing woods.
>>97815643They can try but you can use this magic word "No" and they will stop.
>>97815753"Ok, please leave."
>>97814311Kawamori needs to lay off the Molly, that looks like trash and he used to be good at this shit
>>97815519>two-bit mercsTbf the Roughriders stymied Wolf's Dragoons on Hesperus, they aren't exactly a bitch unit
>>97815776Friend, that is an OG 80's Japtech design. It predates Armored Core.
>>97815786I'm just throwing shade. Deadeye was my favorite part of MW2:Mercs after all.
>>97815797>Dis nigga has never taken a Chainsaw Ghost in heavy woods.
>>97815789So he was doing Molly even back then, is what you're saying?
>>97815797Yes, especially with artillery. We also use a house rule for woods burning down.
>>97815468>BreakthroughIs that dialogue a nod to the Homeworld mission 2 intro cutscene?
Bros... im breaking my f***ing brain looking for a simple printable PDF, that has decent looking basic bitch 2D river hexes. You think there would be tons out there
>>97815771If you play at "brand" sponsored events instead at your local shop's you deserve this kind of treatment.
Started a new campaign in the Succession Wars era, 3029, basically using the "tabletop conversion" rules from MW:Destiny for atleast a little bit of book-keeping. Four players, each with their individual lance, against my OpFor, consisting of a battalion+ of 'mechs, vehicles and infantry.Yet another Marik Civil War, set in Kyrkbacken where the leading Duke Heisenberg-Marik has been overthrown by the local Baron Heisenberg-Marik, and so he hires mercenaries to dethrone the pretender. The FWL would help, but is caught up in red tape, leaving the mercs as the only choice.Gave them the option to either focus on setting up their base, go duel a a lance leader who's not entirely sure he wants to fight a civil war but honor demands he atleast do SOMETHING... Or go help out a minor noble who's against the new government.Players chose the third option and to send their Cavalry lance (Wolverine, A slightly time-displaced Cronos, Gladiator and an Enforcer) on the mission. The objective? Ensure the Lord's Blackjack survives, ensure the Lord's estates survive, and drive off the Marik forces (Quickdraw, Crusader, Trebuchet, Dervish).The Marik forces tried to meet the Mercenary threat, but lost their Crusader to twin ammo explosions early on. They made a retreat through the lord's estates, setting them on fire, but failed to actually bring the structures down, allowing for the fires to be contained.The grateful lord pledged his allegiance to help the Mercenaries with his Blackjack and two Harasser Missile Platforms.In the next mission, the mercenary recon lance will try to fight off against a probing Marik force to drive them away from their base of operations...
>>97816009Umm wouldn't it be easier to get some dnd map and overlay hex grid on it instead?
>>97816022
>>97816022Cool. How big is that combined board? I don't want to shit on you in any way but it kinda seems small.
>>97816034That was two mapsheets. I was considering three but realized that it would just leave the player with two to three "empty" turns of just getting closer before getting into the fight. In retrospect, I should just have said "the player force enters the board on turn 2" to let there be one turn of free LRM fire, but such is life as a GM.
>>97815513>>97815501>>97815492>>97815468>>97815457>>97815451>>97815441I really want to see the Neo-WoB/Domini Remnants expanded upon :(
>>97816060I really want them to be consigned to the dustbin along with their retarded era
>>97816051Ok. I'm interested in size in inches, I have no other point of reference. >>97816060Amen>>97816067U lost.
>>97816092>Ok. I'm interested in size in inches, I have no other point of reference.Do you not play the game?https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mapsheet
>>97816092Two mapsheets put together at the long edges more or less equals one the size neoprene alpha strike map
>>97816067Ok buddy
>>97816092>I'm interested in size in inchesWe know you do, bottom-anon
>>97816107I dont play classic.So 44x36", seemed bit smallish for me. It's one of the reasons I chosen AF over classic rules.
>>97816060Don't. Remember that CGL can't write and Ghosts was essentially Beas The Gen X Writer being given free reign as they don't want to use them in the foreseeable future. They're a plot point for the future (much like the Homeworld Clans) for when they don't have the foggiest idea on what to do. Ghosts gives you already enough canon material to run black ops during the Republic Era and extra rules for post-Jihad tech (automata an' shit). Again, consider the mediocre mess that is the IlKhan and ask yourself if you want that to happen to the Manei remnants. Just run with what you're given and they're out there in the Far Periphery building colonies with non-smart AI, automata workers and cybernetic hookers. >>97816067Sooner or later they'll need to start writing again some Jihad fiction. If the new sets are Civil War/Ilkhan, it's the last era that needs representation. Bar Dark Ages, but seriously, who wants Dark Ages
>>97816120Never used those. We play on 44/48×44/48 or bigger.>>97816131>gay sex on mind 24/7Hi american anon.
>>97816137>It's one of the reasons I chosen AF over classic rulesAnd you choose poorly.
Wonder what the April fools joke will be from CGL this year? Delivering products on time?
>>97816259A half assed joke paragraph about some silly scenario that effectively amounts to an alternate universe that ends up still being more compelling than the current ilclan era.
>>97816137>I dont play classicThen leave.
>>97816286Trying Too Hard
>>97816259Wait, the backstabber SPA wasn't this years April fools joke?
>>97816290ASfags aren't welcome. Play Battletech, or get out of the Battletech thread. Fuck off.
>>97816295>this bait on April Fool's DayLow-hanging fruit, broski
>>97816138>Again, consider the mediocre mess that is the IlKhan and ask yourself if you want that to happen to the Manei remnants.A fair point...
>>97815458TR 1945 is a joke product and only morons cite it for anything.120 mm cannons being Light Rifles makes perfect sense. They're useless against 'Mech scale armour and weigh about the same with the mounting included.The 50 cal in BT is also beneficiary of a thousand years of metallurgy and chemistry over a modern weapon. The fact it fires in the same calibre means jack shit, you can find medieval cannons with bores equal to naval cannons from WWII. Don't tell me for a second you believe they were equally destructive; BT weapons have almost twice that length of time to build better weapons and more powerful propellant.>>97815519That whole thing was the perfect embodiment of "talk shit, get hit" for the Taurian fanbase. For years they were smugly going on about how they'd fuck the Suns up in a real fight, and then like half the Periphery March and a single merc unit slapped them insensible.Glorious.
>>97816281What like the Girls und Mech?
>>97816333>That whole thing was the perfect embodiment of "talk shit, get hit" for the Taurian fanbase.Little wonder why the timeline stops at Tukayyid for Tex.
Hi I am looking for a learning scenario with the following criteria>Must have minor BV disparity (in order to favor the newbie)>Must have an objective other than Deathmatch (both for more fun and to keep the game from taking more than a couple hours)>Ideally deals in sub-lance quantities of mechs (3v3 being max, things like 3v2 are allowed)Does anyone have anything that matches those?
>>97816360Take a Shadow Hawk and Vindicator and give the new player a Wolverine and Griffin. That way you are gimping yourself a bit but not outright handing victory over to the new player plus all designs are new player friendly.I would play a deathmatch really to begin with but if you insist on an objective something like a CTF match, either one flag or two that you need to return to a base. Nothing too fancy.
>>97816333>. For years they were smugly going on about how they'd fuck the Suns up in a real fight, and then like half the Periphery March and a single merc unit slapped them insensible.Nothing CGL publishes is canon so this never happened.
>>97816391What Wolverine variant would you give them?I was hesitant to include things with jump jets but it might be fine
>>97816401SHD-2HVND-1RGRF-1NWVR-6RSo basically the base variants. JJ are fine to include since about the only one that really has to properly think about heat levels here is the Griffin and its not exactly hard to manage.
>>97809362I’ve been playing a lot of modded WARNO recently. There’s a Star Wars mod and a Horus Heresy mod both with a few active players. A Battletech mod would be difficult, couldn’t really do components for mechs, or heat. Without those it would just become mechs bursting each other down with energy boats reigning supreme.
>>97816418In past learning games I've actually tended to give the SHawk to the newbie so that they don't have to worry about heat yet (obviously in such a way that they still have a BV advantage). We can try this too. I've also used other mechs like the Blackjack, the Whitworth and the Enforcer in learning matches to good effect.One other question: what pilot skills would you give them? 4/5? I tried 3/4 vets in previous newbie scuffles and hoboy the lethality is quite high
>>97816137...Okay, so, I mean, that's the absolutely most retarded reason I have ever heard for picking a system. This has to be a troll of some sort.
>>97816286Right after you.
>>97816498Try harder or at all.
>>97816483Generally anything introtech in the medium bracket tends to be a good shout. I just find those four I picked tend to be the best if teaching someone is new to the game as they cover quite a lot while being easy to use and if really want models then those models are in the intro box sets, plus also got hands for objective play.I prefer doing things at 4/5 for starters as its a little less punishing for making a bad move and found it also encourages a bit of melee play.
>>97815852>equipment that allowed you to do the opposite and grow a Woods on a HexFunctionally equivalent to smoke LRMs. Granted those “woods” have a tendency to get up and move, but still.
>>97816334Thats our thing that we created, not CGL. And its still better than ilkhan
>>97816679>Implying CGL won't try to copy usProbably should do more of it at some point. Need a school for Marik, Liao and Kurita still.
>>97816259its a book about an urbanmech LAM it seems.
>>97816871Lame.
>>97816333There's also an additional factor about the weapons.The tabletop is explicitly not lore accurate. Scale of the mechs is expressly not the scale of the map, and accurate weapon ranges are 10x what the rules say they are but those aren't used because you would need a giant map and you'd functionally be playing a cover shooter like that. And that's only the tip of the iceberg.
>>97815852>Honestly I'd love more dynamic terrain alteration in general, like equipment that allowed you to do the opposite and grow a Woods on a Hex.With the amount of rules already out there for accountanttech and the existing industrial equipment allowing civvie mechs and other stuff to be made, I'd be shocked if there wasn't a way to play IndustryTech broken up by Classic Battletech Pirate raids to do this.
>>97816259
>>97816976has anyone tried playing with the 10x range before?sounds probably fun for one game
>>97817041Missed a trick not including the Tatae Hussar otherwise not the worst thing could have come up with.
>>97817095The what?
>>97817041>Catalyst announces new partnership to bring the next era of Battletech to life>it's bird people in 'mechs>pic related is the new partner
>buy salvage box on a whim>It's something I don't have much use for and won't fit nicely into any of my forces>Also now I am unlikely to buy box with said mini in it because even though it has stuff I want I don't want to be stuck with 2 bad mechs>mfw
>>97817041>CGL Shipping more than 2 dice in a box.That's how you know it can't be real
>>97817151Misspelled Tetatae cause I'm an assclown.>>97817226The best joke they could come up with.
>>97817084>I've glanced at it before, issue is for almost all the earthmoving stuff you're looking at hundreds of BattleTech turns just to raise or lower the Level of a Hex.Just adjust the timescale by putting into place a damage and maybe a movement multiplier. You're probably going to need to do that for any of the general road or building construction stuff anyway with how long those take, much less farming.
>>97815468>>97815457>>97815451>>97815441This shit is kino.
>>97815427Hey, its the Shad i printed for them. Its a lovely paintjob.
How would you anons handle the IlClan era if you were in charge today, and unable to retcon things or force the timeline backwards? You need to build from what we currently got.For these purposes, the 3250 minimum is that there is a person on Terra with some form of power claiming to be IlKhan of the Star League, and there is some Mechwarrior program named after the original Gunslingers. You can treat everything else from the 3250 forewards as whatever degree of propaganda you want.
>>97817774They're walking back the 3250 shit because of the tremendously negative reception it's had from pretty much everyone.
>>97817874Whatever cope helps (You) sleep, anon.
>>97817262This needs to become a JF totem.
>>97817928Randall said that they're not going to do timeskip to 3250 and stay in 3150s in the Adepticon Q&A though
>>978179963150 will continue until morale improves.
>>97817874They've already stated that what's been said there is not strictly how things are, indicating they are probably making it in large part propaganda, even before Adepticon. That's why the parameters specified the minimum it did.So with that already being done, how are you planning on resolving the walk back?
Sadly its not an April´s Fool.
>>97817041Well fuck, there goes my hopes for Fedcom Civil War DLC.
>>97818055Is he quitting CGL as well?
>>97806927 >Battletech's version of an Imperator TitanI think I like ares now
>>97818075He is a freelancer for CGL as far as i know. And he got laid off from PGI.
>>97818312The Ares gets a bad rep because its fluff has it as an unstoppable juggernaut, but on the table it's just a fatter fat assault and can be taken down only slightly slower than a typical 100 ton mech but costs a good 500-1000 more BV than most of them. Plus as an omnimech it has a lot of fixed equipment that isn't great.
>>97818055I guess it's the end of MWO-style we know.
>>97818377In a lot of ways, the Ares is an Urbanmech. It has so many small, short ranged fixed weapons that it really just needs to be able to trundle around a corner and unload on some unsuspecting saps. Out in the open even the longer ranged loadouts would be only decent on something that weighs half as much.
I am personally not against even very extreme rules changes on principle, however it is my belief that catalyst:- don't actually have any good ideas about how to improve the game- are too scared to do anything more than tweak random shit that barely matters
>>97818451Arrite
>>97818422The fixed A-pods are its biggest sin. They should at least be B-pods, this is a high tech unit for high tech, high stakes urban combat, and more importantly, it's slower than most BA. They will be able to swarm it, and it won't be able to stop them in most configurations.
>>97818451Cool story bruv
Anyone have good papercraft resources for aerospace? I want to have some Stingrays built to scale for a game this weekend and I'm struggling to find a good fit.
>>97818055PGI been laying staff off like crazy. They went from 110 to 55 people in less than a year.
>>97818557I don't have anything, but look for stuff related to IRL forward swept wing fighters. The Stingray is pretty similar to a lot of real jets in that regard.
>>97818566I can't imagine MWO brings in much revenue nowadays, and they fumbled mw5 clans pretty badly. It's contraction time.
>>97818611I found some ace combat papercraft that could do in a pinch, but they're complicated to do up at like 55mm to be in scale with my other models.
>>97818738I like Ace Darwin, so it makes me nervous to see them use him in stories like this.
>>97818627They wasted too much effort on Clan shit that didn't sell. Even the Clan stuff they added to their Mercs game despite selling a lot didn't exactly make a big profit.
>>97818752He's like BT's Harry Flashman, right?
>>97818820>>97818627Why did MW5C flop?
>>97818868It lacked polish.It's buggy, poorly optimized, the missions were fairly boring, bad AI, and so on. It's looks pretty, but that's about it. Like, why pay PGI for a mediocre campaign and a bunch of stuff you can just mod into Mercs?
>>97818852I'm not super familiar with Flashman, but Ace runs a good example of an ad hoc mercenary company, the only continuous member is himself and a very small handful of other characters later on in his career. Everyone else in Ace Darwin's Whipits come and go from mission to mission, they're all freelancers signing up one job at a time.He's definitely a protagonist type, but is bordering on being a joke character (literally pilots a Panther which is painted entirely pink). He a suitable character for getting thrust into wacky situations, but it would be very easy for them to take it too far and tip him right over into being an outright joke.
>>97818868I'm not sure it flopped but it didn't exactly soar. It didn't have the replayability of Mercenaries and the campaigns (including the DLC ones) were just average. Me and a few of my buds had a good time playing smokies (DO IT AGAIN UNCLE CORDY) but those of us who still play MW5 have just gone back to modded Mercenaries. There's even less reason to be interested as Clan mechs start to be backported to Mercenaries with the new DLCs.I've been playing with the new TTRulez version. I don't really miss Clans at all. Even features like unique pilot abilities are now in it (and honestly better as unique traits rather than weird progression) and the economy of the game is more engaging than dumping kerensky-bucks into the one mech you want to bother playing for the rest of the campaign.TL;DR: It was just okay in a space where it isn't enough to be just okay. It competes with its predecessor and loses on a lot of accounts. The only thing that is definitively better is that it has less of a non-plot and covers some interesting history.
>>97819001
>>97818312>I think I like ares nowI liked them before they were cool >:(
>>97819012Would.
>>97817041How well this sell if they actually make the box?
>>97818868It insists upon itself.
>>97819076Maps are too normal for it to get full meme status.
U guys think this is a good setup for an ambush?
>>97819129Those height 1 or 2? If they're height 1, best you can do, if they're height 2, shoot the weenies over the rocks not around them and enjoy your partial cover.
>>97819164Fuck. I got it backwards. You know what I mean.
>>97819170Theyre height 1. Enemy is trying to get troop transports across the table
>>97818868They left MW5M a buggy unfinished mess and people thought MW5C was going to be the same.
>>97819259They thought correctly.
>>97813473>The Circinus Federation really were really almost as bad as the WoB by the time of its destructionThey were the only smart nation in BT, the only ones wise and brave enough to accept the Word's truth.
>>97819313Be interesting to see what mad cash grabs they try this year to try and get some cash in.
I really like the Targe. I've a soft spot for the basic, kinda shitty, not particularly noteworthy in any way kind of grunt machines. They're the little big stompy mechs that could.
>>97819459Targe autist made it grow on me. I kind of like 40 ton trooper designs even if this one is fairly mediocre. The MASC changes might make it far less of a shitbox though.
>>97813473>>97819315Reminder that Circinus remnants survived as Lincoln's Rotting Corpse all the way into ilClan where some faggot FWL quisling gone wolf in a Goliath finally caught them and wiped them out.
>>97819459>>97819476Did they ever canonize the OG clicktech one with LRM's?
>>97819459Grunt mechs, like the GM in Gundam, are often my favourite machines. Targe, Uller, Wasp, I love 'em all.
>>97819515I love how the Initiate was made by the WoB to simply be a reliable, workhorse trooper. It's got nothing special or experimental or particularly unique, it's just a frontline fighter. There is pleasure in such a simple existence.
>>97819515As a fellow mook-lover, I salute you.
>>97819515Zaku II > GM I don't care about technological supremacy you feddie piece of shit
>>97819547>Not the Zaku IYour Zeek is week.
>>97819547>>97819515Zaku I is the objectively best Gundam mook design.
>>97819560>>97819572My kin
It's legit wild how a single Zaku 2 or GM could easily solo an entire Lance lol The difference in BT and Gundam mechs is crazy.
>>97819599I love this fact. It's like when the RX-78-2 turns up and wrecks squads of Zakus and the pilots are all freaking the fuck out
>>97819599Please don't start this argument again...
>>97819223Then give them a hug and shoot over them. Don't forget Meks are Height 2.
>>97819589kino
>>97819515When everyone is special, the people who aren't special stand out.>>97819599But what if the BT lance souls aren't weighed down by earths gravity?
>>97819660>But what if the BT lance souls aren't weighed down by earths gravity?Then they die like true heroes!
>>97819599We'll have to see when Assemble is released
>>97819534>There is pleasure in such a simple existence.This is why true WoB fans play Word of Blake Militia rather than the super special Manei Domini.
>>97819672Are there any new UC projects planned that actually use good animation like Unicorn? I think the last thing even close was Hathaway's Flash.
>>97819694Also, because the militia never betrayed the people of the WoB Protectorate or their homeworlds.
>>97819694Manei Domini and the Shadow Divisions are PEAK and KINGSHIT but, I guess there's a certain enjoyment to be found in embracing the struggles of the Frails now and then.
>>97819705>Also, because the militia never betrayed the people of the WoB Protectorate or their homeworlds.If the Master, Apollyon and Berith all found it acceptable to sacrifice the soldiers of the Militia and the people of the Protectorate to ensure the WoB's self-imposed exile was successful, who the fuck are you to criticise such a course of action?
>>97819705>>97819715Is it time to mention /btg/'s favorite Blakist unit of True Believers again?
>>97819728Guy that lives on fucked ex-TH planet?
>>97819743The fate of Caph is nothing compared to the rest of the Inner Sphere. I say let it burn, if it helps bring about Blake's vision!
>>97819515>>97819534>>97819538>>97819560>>97819572>>97819589Hmm, which shall I play? Some well known, badass merc/Clan/House unit with a ton of character and awesome, spruced up to fuck mechs bristling with fun to use tech, or some random goyim nobodies hiding in a trench using rusted piles of shit?People that claim to unironically like the "mooks" of any setting are tryhard tards.
>>97819780
Anyone know what the "S" means in the AC 10 weapon profile?
>>97819793Solid. I think.
>>97819793Saucy
>>97819793Battlemech Manual Page 120S: Switchable Ammo
>>97819828Thank you
>>97819793>DB: Direct-Fire Ballistic. These weapons (except machine guns) can use a targeting computer when making attacks (see Targeting Computer, p. 114).>S: Switchable Ammo. This weapon may employ one or more types of special munitions (see p. 106).BMM, pg.97.
Mauler MAL-4R4 LAC 5PRECISION AMMO YUM.CLAN LRMsCLAN LPLs
>>97819534>>97819694Funny, I was just looking into using that instead of the Cronus after I looked at its sheet and realized the Cronus has the small cockpit for MD cyborgs.
>>97819866It's a sign, anon! Swallow the Initiate pill.
>>97819780If only there were house units that survive fighting mary sue faggots and use mooks while being badass...oh yeah, HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>97819780Here's my two guesses as to why people like troopers and seeing them do well1. It feels true to life, afterall, wunderwaffes are rare in our world and the majority of combat is not done by aces2. It leaves an opening for /yourdudes/ to come in and be semi-relevant, since people seem to be allergic(fairly) to making their dudes be major movers and shakers, or at least starting off that wayA solid, cheap combat platform that a relative everyman can get into and still do work with makes a setting feel more accessible to the average gamer, even if only subconsciously.3. Everyone loves underdogs, even when they're not really underdogsThese are my guesses anyways
>>97819729This is the second time I've seen this and heard that they're the patron saint of BTG or something. What's the deal with these guys?
>>97819957Run by fans that totally flipped the fucking tables even with scenarios engineered against them at the canon Battle of Odessa, Battle of Dieron and Battle of Terra, caused the infantry air attack rules and artillery scatter rules to get revised, and just killed a ton of Stoner animals for literally years. Then, survived and fucked off to deep space in the Fleet of Blake. They're the guys that told dev clan and dark age dicksucking fiat to suck it and died harder than anyone to delay for their brothers to live another day.
>>97819515Leo!
>>97819912Personally I like my dracs to be bleeding edge hot shit supermechs exterminating clanner fucks with their own shit, in order to steal, I mean salvage, even more clanner stuff with which to kill more clanner fucks.
>>97820048>tfw bought a Tallgeese III HG kit back in the day to make a Leo out of it.Ah, memories.
>>97819957They were doing canon event Jihad games at some con and all the randos who showed up wanted to be in the good guy coalition, so it was a hodge podge of brand new to intermediate level players with no coordination.Cincy showed up and took the WoB side and a lot of them know the rules better than the devs do, so they repeatedly tabled the opposition even with huge handicaps. At one point the devs had a dropship with several hundred thousand BV worth of reinforcements fly low over a deep canyon table so it got shot by some leftover infantry at the top and lawndarted. Took them a few hours of cross referencing the books before they agreed that that's what just happened. The next rules revision made it so infantry can't shoot at aerospace without dedicated AA equipment.
Speaking of Gundam, have anyone tried the new hex-based Gundam game? How's the size and stuffs? Both the map and models
>>97820102>at some conGencon, THE Battletech canon place since the 80's. Shit, I have the pins from the 87 Gencon when they announced the 4th Succession War.
>>97820152Whatever. Conventions are for fags and tryhards.
>>97820158Cons are fun, bro. I wouldn't trek across half the country for one, but it's cool to see other nerds outside the FLGS in person and play games and shoot the shit. My semi-normalfag take, anyway.
>>97820141Releases October 2026
>>97820102
Trying to surround the Atlas, Capellan forces risk being one-shotted
>>97819700Honestly, I like them both for different reasons. Hathaway has really atmospheric battle scenes like the Battle of Davao, but the way the mobile suits actually fight in Unicorn was definitely more brutal and fun to watch. It's still the gold standard in anime mech combat. I think IBO comes close, though. The animation budget isn't as high, but the fight choreography and sound design do some seriously heavy lifting.
>>97819515You know, I always thought the Enforcer kind of looked like a GM.
>>97817262I hope them aliens is real so I'll have more things to fuck.
>>97816976Absolute shit take considering there's literally four decades of novels saying otherwise.
>>97819534Why did they make it so slow thou?
