Vorthos EditionPrevious: >>97822157>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What is your favorite MTG set/block storyline?
I really don't have one. I've never followed any of the stories.
>>97827483Blue has absolute shit tons of color changing cards, the problem is they're all old as shit and WotC doesn't reprint them.It's a very blue effect because old blue used to be modelled after judo or some other martial art that was all about adapting and flowing like water whatever the fuck. This game was made by autists in the 90s and all 90s autists loved martial arts movies.But yeah the idea of changing the colors of shit to adapt and change is a blue thing all over. Hexproof is also blue. The real question is why is she green.
>>97827513Blue literally got a color changing card a month ago.
>POV: You're swordfag or playing blue
>>97827521As long as she bullies me and we still do sexy stuff, I'm into it.
>>97827515That is not a Magic card, that's some kind of weird ad printed onto cardboard.Also note how I said >WotC doesn't reprint them.>reprintWork on your reading comprehension you retarded slop-piggy.
>>97827505What you have to understand is he's autistic and has no theory of mind.He's like an animal, all he can do is follow his urges. He has an urge to buy UB if it's things he likes, so he does it. He doesn't like other UBs so he complains about them and leaves these threads so he doesn't have to see it. He is completely incapable of putting together that his purchase of the UB he likes funds the UB he doesn't like.Same with his tripfagging. He wants to feel like a valued part of the communities he insinuates himself into, so he tripfags so people can recognize him and give him asspats. He is completely incapable of putting together that the fact that he tripfags and tries to get people to value him is why no one likes him.
>>97827527>oh no, they put something desirable on a magic card to a group of people potentially not playing magic>STOP THE ADS REEEEYou guys are spergs
>>97827513Would Vorthos reduce Blind Seer's cost if you chose Urza?
>>97827538>I can't read, time to sling insults to protect my own ego!!!Lol
>>97827502>TQThe Gay Bolas storyline. The close second is the NTR Jin storyline.
>>97827502>TQI enjoyed Amonkhet's lore and story even if it's smack in the middle of the Jacetice League themepark set era. I liked the original Mirrodin and Scars stories too but they're kind of tainted by how dirty they did New Phyrexia in the future.
>>97827544>doesn't know what advertising is>thinks anyone will take him seriouslyTell me, Anon (if that is your real name); who do you think TMNT cards are an advertisement for? They certainly aren't making anyone playing magic decide to buy.... well there's no TMNT products to buy so definitely not that. Do you think that maybe it's more about bringing more people into magic? Maybe investing X money for the rights to the property, assuming it would jive with the people who play and also hoping to bring in TMNT fans and make X + Y money back? A return on investment even? Stop talking.
>>97827502>What is your favorite MTG set/block storyline?Eldraine is my favorite plane and Wilds of Eldraine is my favorite set. I just don't think you can beat the fairytale aesthetics, the enchantment reprints, the characters. It's great.But favorite set STORYLINE? Impossible to say.Despite how much I hate the 80s nostalgia bullshit in Duskmorn I think Marina Vendrell and Valgavoth is one of my favorite BACKSTORIES. It took a set I was really ready to hate and sprinkled some gold nuggets in there.
>>97827538Literally what an ad is
>>97827556I was excited for Amonkhet because they kept saying the Jacetice League would take a meaningful L which I hoped meant at least one of them would die or face some sort of consequences. More the fool I.
>>97827515Hey, wait a minute. Geckos don't change colors.
>>97827579It is VERY common here to act like the cards are an ad for the product on them, not an ad for magic to spergs with other loser hobbies like Final Fantasy, TMNT, and Marvel.
>>97827527the card you posted is part of a cycle of all colors all with similar color changing effects, it doesn't really make the case that color changing is blue
>>97827575>there's no TMNT products to buyUB is a product.TMNT toys and collectibles are still sold everywhere.Fortnite crossover.They have a recent Lego set.You're showing your age by thinking that ads can only exist to promote 1 thing. You exist in the age of brands, grandpa. Coca-Cola doesn't constantly shit out new ads because they constantly have new products, they do it because keeping their brand feeling current and present in consumers mind is worth money to them.
>>97827591>the card you posted is part of a cycle of all colors all with similar color changing effects, it doesn't really make the case that color changing is blueNot the point I was making by posting it, it was just another color changing card I happened to have saved. Get over it.
>>97827592So you're conceding it's for 1 thing but because it made you think about the other thing (because the ad isn't for you) it's working? You're a special type of sperg, kiddo. Magic just wants money for magic, so they pay for IPs they think will let them drag spergs (like you) in. Which UB got you to join?
>>97827597>So you're conceding it's for 1 thingNope, work on your reading comprehension.
>>97827601>N-no I just openly said something wrong you're dumb!!!Lmao
>>97827605>poop shart pttttttp plopk.
>This is better than discussing the game with Swordchad.
>>97827628Fuck off tripfag, posting support for yourself is almost as bad as seeing your stupid trip
>>97827634>NOO I HAVE TO SIT HERE AND ARGUE ABOUT UBStill not better than discussing the game with Swordgod.
>>97827640trip back on
>>97827628>>97827640Just say you like penis and be done with it
>>97827512I think it would be funny if we got a sorta sequel Roxanne card where she's set up shop in Thunder Junction selling rocks and stones and she "gifts" people meteorites
>>97827667Do you not? Liking penis is normal. But enough about femboys, let's discuss the game of Magic: The Gathering in the format of Commander/EDH! Who is your current build project, Anon?
Post your favorite characters
Prime Speaker Zegana my beloved
>>97827692I just wish she wasn't so ooooooold
>>97827502Melvin when?
What are your guys' pods like?We have like 12 people, with a few construction worker timmys, chemist and doctor johnnies and spikes, token girlfriend with a cat deck, and about a 50% tismo rate. Half my pod's family or extended family, and we never play with randos.
Soon.
>>97827692zero suit bowser, no contest
>>97827709>Guy who crashed out and quit because he's a Timmy that wants zero interaction on his turn even if he's trying to full swing at someone and kill them>Guy that got employed at worst possible hours and no longer has any availability>Two guys that genuinely don't care at all about the game and aren't paying any attention when they play or make decks
>>97827709Everyone's either preconbabies or netdecking dickheads.
>>97827720Thanks for making me do this. You get 100% of the blame.>>97827692Urza, Mishra, Yawgmoth, Bruenna, Glissa, Bosh, Slobad, Memnarch, I used to like Karn until post-OG Mirrodin>TQOG Mirrodin books were one of my favorite reads and I still have my old copies in pretty good condition. I should read them again.
>>978277092 goupsone used to be only the big 3 + 1 friend of a friend semirando. then one rando invited another and now the group is like 20+ and I don't know over half the people. the ones I do are ok altho a bit newbthe other group I kinda found when trying to escape constant UB and randos of the other and they are mostly cool altho 70% alphabet soup so it's a pick your poison kind of situationin both groups they are all some sort of upper ed tech nerds and I'm the only unemployed that never even got to an interview
>>97827745How many boxes, Swordbro? Why are you dodging the question?
>>97827709Can be split in two categories. The old guard which plays or at least started on 40/60 card formats, are cut throat when necessary but treat commander as mostly a chill fun format. no bracket talk. Stax is okay. Combo is okay. Mass land destruction is okay. Just keep it in check and tell the pod if you are looking for a turn 3 or turn 6+ game.The other half are the newfags. They started with commander, only play commander and dont care about anything but commander. They constantly fuss about the bracket system. they compensate their lack of game skill and knowledge with unspoken rules you dont know unless you are part of the crew. lots of angle shooting and while not openly rude mostly frustrated with the game, the pod, you and themselves. very annoying to play with overall.
>>97827763If you mean FF, I believe it was 3 boxes and the starter kit.
>>97827794KekSUEEEEEEYHERE PIGGY PIGGY PIGGYAnd then you have the audacity to say you left these threads because of Spider-Man and Avatar hahaha holy fucking shit you fat fuck.
>>97827802Yeah, like I said, if I like a UB and think it fits Magic, I'll play it. I don't think Marvel as a whole, Spiderman, or TMNT fit magic, so I have no interest in them. You can like one thing and not like another, especially when the flaw isn't that it's UB, it's that it is unbefitting of Magic.>what I wantCool magic, monsters, wizards, magic tech shit, etc>what i don't wantBMW 5 SeriesAvatar was sort of an outlier because it conceptually could fit, but it's too barren and they were too scared to do anything except make 20 cards of the same character. No one needed 9 Aangs.
>>97827811>>what I want>Cool magic, monsters, wizards, magic tech shit, etc>>what i don't want>BMW 5 SeriesWOTC DOES NOT CARETHE BUYING THE UB YOU DO LIKE FUNDS THE UB YOU DON'T LIKEFuck, this post is right about you >>97827537
>>97827815>unironic samefagging
>>97827811>BMW 5 SeriesDude you realize the closest we have to this is IN final fantasy right?
>>97827821Sure. And now I post a screenshot disproving you, and then you say i edited the html, and then you've successfully deflected conversation away from your own stupidity.You're a fat fuck consoomer who literally cannot conceptualize the fact that your own behavior produces more of the thing you don't like
>>97827815I know they don't care, but at this point we're several years into their preplanned ongoing car wreck so I only support the things I'd like to survive said crash. FF is something I'd like more of, same with Lorwyn, so I support these with money and I outright do not purchase or even second-hand purchase anything from TMNT or Spider Man, nor will I from Marvel Superheroes unless it's SO generic it cannot be distinguished as gay Marvel shit. In fact, the only Spider Man cards I own are from when a friend at the store and I both bought 1 pack on a bet that if I got one of the really rare cards, he could have it, and if he got the Soul Stone, I could have it. He gave me the entire pack since we only pulled cringe crap anyway lmaoThing is, after all this time, I doubt I'd even be using the Soul Stone anyway since it's just a mana rock I can/do do without. 8 bucks down the drain.>>97827827Yes, I could swear I mentioned how I'd have cut 14-16 out in doing FF again as a set since 15 literally is just driving a real life car. It's a really bad game, too.
>>97827835>SQUEEEEE SNORT OINK OINK
I wish there was a halo/microsoft secret lair. Halo and Conker would make me nutt.
Am I shooting myself in the foot if I build mono black zombies? Most of the zombie decks I see other people make are Dimir
>>97827839You're free to disagree, but I just buy stuff I like/want and don't buy stuff I do not like/want. If your cutoff point is it being UB at all, there's nothing wrong with that, mine is it being UB I think is good or fits.
>>97827827MTG had cars before final fantasy
>>97827843Yes.
>>97827592>You're showing your age by thinking that ads can only exist to promote 1 thingI wish you'd show your age and stop caring about what pop culture figure's art is being put on cards in a pop culture nerd card game. Imagine being over the age of 16 and still caring about that shit. How little do you have going on in your life where Ninja Turtles or Sonic the Hedgehog or Hatsune Miku appearing on Pop Culture Product XYZ is genuinely something you care about so much that you have to incessantly cry about it week after week after week after week after week. Imagine wasting mental energy caring about something so meaningless and inconsequential, especially when 90% of the player base doesn't care about it nor do the people who make and own the game.
>>97827844Kek it's not a fucking disagreement. You literally said you stopped coming to these threads because of SM and Avatar, but you bought THREE BOXES of Final FantashitThere is not disagreement, you're funding more UB you don't like you genuine fucking farm animal hahahaha
>>97827843Most actually good zombies are black, Dimir is often for the self-mill and a few specific good ones.>>97827847You must understand. He is the paragon of Magic's purity.
>>97827847>stop caring about what pop culture figure's art is being put on cards in a pop culture nerd card gameIf you were right you wouldn't have to reduce everything to absurdity~
Microsoft secret lair collaboration HaloConkerGears of warMinecraft^honestly doesn't seem far fetched now that star trek has a whole set dedicated to it.
>>97827854I'd probably roll up for a Rareware SL not gonna lie
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97827848>lose interest and do not spend money during times where the product does not interest me>have interest and buy product during times where the product interests meThis doesn't seem like a strange stance to have. I don't buy Strixhaven either, does that mean I'm contributing to the death of in-universe Magic? I'd hardly say so. I mean, 2 out of my currently functional decks are UB at the header, Tidus and Golbez.>>97827854>GearsMan, that'd be sick. I'd be hoping for mostly, if not entirely reprints but with that really nice, gritty art.
>>97827854>Halo SL under 343You do not want this. You might believe you do but you really don't.
>>97827865Unironically this. Those fuckers cannot help but make Halo into shit.
>>97827853Oh sorry you're right anon I forgot Magic the Gathering is a serious and high brow piece of mature cultural art like The Odyssey or the Epic of Gilgamesh, not a trading card game owned by a literal toy company based around pop culture depictions of pop fantasy tropes which was created to trick nerds into gambling on cardboard. You're right I'm sorry I'm the one being absurd.
>>97827865I know anon a man can dream to have a mechanically unique Tatarus card though.
>>97827874>it's just le silly wacky so everything is permissible!!!!Go check swordtards image here >>97827811 and direct all future shitposts at him, thanks.
>>97827874>things cannot lose integrity over time and nothing owned by what i consider a low brow company are allowed to have integrity or valueWhat is with children and always just acting like nothing ever matters?
>>97827860>I mean, 2 out of my currently functional decks are UB at the header, Tidus and GolbezYou won't bait me. No one in their right mind would bother playing that tripe.
>>97827889If you think a pop culture product is worthy of defending and caring about you're the child, kiddo.>>97827876>magic isn't a serious franchise so anything goes in it!100% correct, including the owners/developers. Hence why they've been making references to and stealing ideas from pop culture and pop fantasy from the very beginning of the game and why that has only accelerated in the last 15 years.
whats some good cards in the 99 for this? I've already got Ashling, Rekindled in my list of possible additions.
>>97827912It's Izzet spellcasting slop. Pick any UR spellslinging staples and cram them on in.
>>97827930i was just looking for suggestions but eh i guess.another card that looks promising is Magnus the Red
>>97827945All UR spellslinging cards are the same. Magnus is better because the tokens are consistent in p/t so you don't need 30 different trackers for variable P/T.
>>97827912Full Throttle can deal nearly 40 damage in a single turn
>>97827959if im understanding this>cast full throttle>it makes a 6/6 haste flying ele>go to combat>swing>combat 2, triggers commander>makes a 2nd 6/6 elemental flying>swing>combat 3, triggers commander>makes a 3rd 6/6 elemental flyingthis right? damn, Im glad i have a copy of full throttle already then.
>>97827912>whats some good cards in the 99 for this?It's a precon, they're going to print them for you, dipshit.
>>97827977if you can explain why the precon needs to keep the included Harmonic Prodigy in, then I wont mod it at all.
>>97827896I gain nothing from lying about it. I love both decks even if I wish Tidus was a bit stronger.
>>97827964Exactly. Extra combat spells like Full Throttle, Overpowering Attack, Seize the Day, and Relentless Assault will put in alot of work.
I hate how this thread makes me think the tripfag is the reasonable one. He's absolutely correct that nothing will change in what wotc is doing at this point. Voting with your wallet is all you can do, whether that means not buying UB as a whole or only buying the sets you like.
>>97828011A lot of the fags who are against voting with your wallet are just disillusioned and angry that their vote isn't the majority so all voting is rigged and shitty. It's also similar to what we discussed a couple threads ago about Ford vs Dodge and how shareholder profit is "above product/company/employee/public wellbeing"
Vorthos makes my dick twitch.
>FordvDodgeCostco.
>>97827987what about Savage Beating?can you say "as my combat phase starts, i cast Savage Beating" and then you get a 5/5 ele?Can you pay the Entwine cost for a 7/7 ele?
>>97828011I'm voting with my wallet buying this block of proxies
>>97828037And that's 100% fine.
>>97828034Maybe?As I understand it the commander's check happens immediately at the start of combat so you wouldn't get the elemental for the first combat, but I could be wrong.
>>97827912Question about this bitch, if I cast the adventure end of pic related I'd still only make a 2/2 because that was the CMC of the spell on the stack yeah? No cheeky Yuriko bullshit where I play split cards and get a giga huge token by cheating the CMC right?
>>97828011>>97828023>>97828032>>97828037>>97828048Trip back on.
>>97828111meds
>>97828117Oo Oo!!!! THis is the part where I say we all know how to press f12!!!
>>97828011You can boycott all the UB you want. The overwhelming majority of players won't and each set has outside fans come in and buy product too. Voting with your wallet means jackshit and most of the antiubfags are hypocrites who gladly buy high power UB cards.The only thing that would stop UB is minimum half the playerbase selling their cards and switching to a different game. That's not going to happen, the players who had the will to do so already have done so. All that's left is the weak willed captured paypiggies who will continue cry and seethe and whine and do everything but leave the game they claim to not like anymore.
>>97828146>most of the antiubfags are hypocrites who gladly buy high power UB cards.[citation needed]
>>97828111Classic poopdickschizo
>>97828146>You can boycott all the UB you want. The overwhelming majority of players won't and each set has outside fans come in and buy product too.Depends on where you are I guess. I'm seeing a lot of unsold shit UB packs on shelves at the places that stocked them. I know for a fact a few shops near me didn't stock beyond the bare minimum, and I still managed to buy an unsold prerelease TMNT box.>Inb4 you're supporting trash UBNo, I was supporting my FLGS. There's a clear difference. >>97828037Based and capitalismpilled.
>>97828011typical poopdickschizo post
>>97828037what site? I'm tired to browsing excel sheets and writing an order to chang
>>97828264https://www.printingproxies.com/
is there any bishop/catholic aesthetic commander that's not evil coded?
>>97828374Monowhite Mikaeus
Post decks
When will we get enchantment equipment?
>>97827508Peak EDH player
>>97828058If you already cast a 1 mana spell, it will trigger. In that case you can respond to the trigger with savage beating, and you'll get a 5/5. You'll always get a 5/5 even if you entwine it because she only counts mana value, not total cost. Still, if you have 8 mana (1 for an earlier sorcery to trigger her and 7 for beating) Thats 10 damage first combat and 20 damage second combat just from the tokens.
>>97828419These two are my main decks
>>97828419
>>97828508what's with the cumstain on force of vigor
>>97828506what's with the cumstain on the squirrel token
>>97828536I had to take it back out to be sureI think it's a mix of the lighting, sleeve, and the weird way these things are foiled
>>97828543sure thing, cum anon. that's totally not a different copy
>>97828550oh NOOOOO HE CAUGHT ME
>>97827502>What is your favorite MTG set/block storyline?My favorite blocks usually have my favorite storylines too. Ice Age, Time Spiral, Shards of Alara, Khans of Tarkir. Ixalan was pretty cool too, easily the best of the two-set blocks.
>>97827521This "person" looks AI generated.
>>97827692
>>97828029And you make Vorthos dick twitch anon
>>97827912
>>97828602I really like your use of Coram and Kotis for Astaroth and Cervantes. I wish I was better at the Soul Caliber games because I grew up with 2 and 3 and somehow muscled my way through them despite being utter dogshit.
*Kills your commander*
>>97828163Nigger you’ve been trying to make this shit happen for months. It hasn’t happened and it never will. Ironically you have become the sperg of the thread
>play the casual fun format>feel the need to include the best shit in every single deckWhat causes this mindset?
>>97828781Trannyism
>>97828747Hell yeah
>>97828619Presumably, he's asking after things that aren't already in the 99 of the precon.
>>97828799Oh, it is? I haven't looked at any lists, my bad.
