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>tqWorking on one right nowSpeaking of, thoughts on running this guy as a broadside character? It's much bigger than a broadside but it's a great platform imo for a shitload of guns
>>97827973SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!
found the missing defiler heads
>>97827996Word Bearers one is sick
>>97827996Looks like a good box to raid for bits
>people who own hobby shops on Ebay can get GW stuff at a 50% discount or some shit and then sell it for more>you can then monetize this content by starting a youtube channel and keeping one of the boxes for yourselfI'm learning.
>>97827996Word Bearers will be the next upgrade sprue.>missingDid GW fuck up again?
>>97827996Helmets do look cool but I still think it largely looks like a piece of pink bubble gum dogshit. I don’t have any ideas how to kitbash a thousand sons defiler though
>>97828008ironically I feel the "giant spawn" look fits TS the best, since ideally GW would have allowed some "experimenttation in fixing the rubric" units that are just fucked up super spawn.Also I was shitting the other day and realized the reason WE have all those possessed models like eightbound is because GW wanted them to basically be Khorne Daemonkin, and the eightbound are daemonkin.
>>97826977All of the models are mono pose garbage so your best bet is third party like Victoria Miniatures.
>>97827973I like orks :D
>>97828002it doesn't have that many
I want to see tzaangors painted in human flesh tones
>>97828008I would paint the flesh blue like horrors, gors and loc, and the armor like the robots
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>97827996
How's everyone collage submission coming along?
>>97828003>people who own hobby shops on Ebay can get GW stuff at a 50% discount or some shit and then sell it for moreIs this the first time you've come across the concept of wholesale items?
>>97828067Waiting for the librarian consul to arrive. Gonna probably kitbash him with some 40k tsons bits and add parts of dead furfags on the base or something
>>97828060probably one of the greatest animated ive seen tbqhqh
>>97828076i used the 30k tank sprue upgrade to get a body and arms, could be useful if you have a spare one and would only require some greenstuff gore to explain the lack of legs.
>>97828069it's the confluence of owning a business (SIDE HUSTLE) and then running a channel which could, in theory, be monetized and therefore cover the cost of the box you decide to keep.So you order 11 boxes 50% off, sell 10 and keep one and then you've got the channel and you've created a neet loop that covers your hobby while you go to work and do your job and your second job and trade some cryptostocks on the side and maybe a little gold.
>>97828067I don't know what the collage is supposed to be.
>>97828067I'm really hoping for a lot of entries because the meltdown is going to be hilarious
>>97828091it's a double theme, so pick one or both if you like>Crucible Character(the custom character rules)>Space Wolves getting destroyed
>>97828088>So you order 11 boxes 50% offI would highly suggest you look into the starting orders and requirements of becoming a GW stockist because they're a sizeable investment.
>>97828085I don't have any unfortunately, or that many spare bits at all actually. I think I can make him hold one of the heads in his left hand so that's a start.
I seemingly struggle to paint things neatly, if me taking photographs with my phone is anything to go by.How do I improve on this?
So what's the easiest way to acquire a disc of tzeentch for my manlet sorcerer? He's really smol
>>97828067Can't wait to hear you know who say it's an empty armor rigged with bombs
Imperial Fists primaris intercessors
>>97828138Steal it from a tzaangor after you unload a fat creamy load into its cloaca and while the poor tzaangor is basking in the afterglow.
>>97828133Slow down, use even coats and use panel/black lining
>11th edition still uses the same LOS rules and L-shaped ruins spam like 10thits over
>>97828153Bruh
>>97828153What about Pogs?
>>97828067thinking of ideas atm, maybe a wolves invictor warsuit but now its being piloted by an ork for a deff dread proxy
I would participate if gw gave a free space wolf mini for the month.
>>97828168it doesall it needs is a helmet
>>97828067Is space furries getting killed the current theme or what? I might take part in it then.
>>97828183Honestly, yeah it probably would work.
>>97828184yes see >>97828094
>>97828188Incridibly based
>>97828168Just use generic marine bits. Most people should have some around. Could ask people at the LGS if they have some bits left over, like a helm or something.
>>97828168Nigga go into your local GW and get a free infernus marine and paint it baby blue and yellow. That's your Space Wolf.
>>97828138Pokémon tokens. They're 30mm wide, ton of them so dirt cheap, and depending on the design it can look nicely chaos-y.
>>97828138You could print one
>>97828067Waiting for 3rd party wolf terminator helmets to show up so I can put one on my basing for a character
>>97828026the defiler can be build in 30720 diffrent ways. It has ALL the bits
Hellblaster status?
>>97828255and all of those will look practically the same and won't leave you with any really usable spare bit
>>97828255Okay, but what color are you painting it?
>>97828271that will be $145 + tax pay up ami
What’s the fish on waffles for your army? For me, it’s the servitors in grey knights. Like why do teleporting psychic terminators need to lounge around servitors for?
>>97828067I got the plan ready, just need to finish a different project first
>>97828305because grey knights have techmarines and techmarines have servitors
I really really hope they add a relics and warlord traits table to the factionwide rules on top of any extra enhancements from the detachments. Such a good mechanic from 8th and 9th that got destroyed with 10th.
Is it possible to run a majority melee only army in necrons? I don’t like the guns they have really.
>>97828262Hopefuly squatted and replaced with a proper tactical support squad.
>>97828325Yeah they have strong melee units. Lychguards are tough, Skorpeks are strong, Ophydians and Flayed Ones are teleporty and Wraiths are resilient and mobile. Not to mention the C'tan who are melee monsters.
>>97828322>warlord traits table>mechanic from 8th and 9thNigga that shits been around since 6th ed, as for relics their still here they're just called enhancements so so long as we get more with the new detachments at least we'll be eating well in that department.
>>97828339I know but if I mention wanting anything from before 8th I get retards coming from under rocks to bring It down. Point is I want shit that we could still do until 10th.>EnhancementsCan't really compare the perhaps single enhancement in a detachment with having a full list of warlord traits AND relics AND any extra from a subfaction that we had in 9th.
>>97828305>fish on wafflesI'm sorry, but who the fuck has fish on waffles, I though chicken and waffles was strange but I'm drawing the line at fish.
>>97828354>the perhaps single enhancement in a detachmentBut each detachment has multiple? And in terms of viability it was also normal for there to be the few good relics while there being many more mediocre, it's why bolt pistol relics are such a meme.
So 11th edition is confirmed 9th edition:2.0 aka 7th edition:3.0 and we have to wait for 12th edition for the next actual shot at the game not being shit
>>97828368First because you can put two enhancements on a single character while you could give a relic and a trait to your warlord. Second because having 3 to choose isn't the same as having 6 traits, 6 relics + your subfaction's specific ones. It just allowed for way more combos and made warlord choice a thing to consider. Third because while some detachments have most of their power coming from a single enhancement others have fuck all.
>>97828378the game won't see any particularly drastic changes until GW feels threatened numbers must go down before rules can be changed
I wonder how they will do the detachments.Would be cool if the faction had access to 2-3 baseline strategems no matter what and then the detachments gave you access to 3 more specialized/interesting strats each or something like that. Maybe that would help get around the problem of current detachments having tons of useless strats to some degree, even though 6 isn't that much.
>>97828378And yet 12th will be even worse because GW writers are incapable of fixing anything only doubling down on their bad decisions.
>>97828387I'm tired of stratagems. I don't want my army's playstyle to be defined by a stratagem.
>>97828394Sorry GW loves them
>>97828328Not what i meant but cool guys
>>97828067Gonna build it this weekend. Gonna be fun.
>>97828394I like the idea of having an extra resource to manage but the execution is far from perfect, access to good strats makes or breaks armies, unfortunetely.
>>97828168I'm glad that they gave me a free model 6 months ago to complete my blood claw pack.
>>97828328are these sons of horus or True Sons?
>>97828067decided to do a diorama piece and now I just got to prime it.
>>97828389At this point I just want the 40k writers to blatantly copy the new 30k rules. They even do stratagems better.
>>97828002Honestly just the heads. Most people are probably going to magnetize the weapon options on them.
>>97828382You still have to remember that a lot of the things your asking for are the same but with a different coat of paint, sub-factions and detachments work similarly these days, but characters aren't locked to a detachment so you have more flexibility, I've already spoken about how relics and enhancements are very similar, and the fact that you can double up on enhancements is similar to a relic + warlord combo.I'm not saying subfaction rules and warlord traits are a bad thing and should come back, I'm just saying don't be blind to the systems that are here and filling a similar role.
>>97828088And throughout all of that you've further promoted Games Workshop products. Your end is considered marketing for them.
>>97828422I actually don't mind stratagems too much in either system, they add a nice extra layer to the game, so I never understand why people got so rabid just from the concept of the system.I think GW is making a smart move making them not stack though, even though that was were you could run some fun combos in 8th and 9th.
>>97828437If I can make it work the tradeoff for free shit is worth it. Plus I hate myself and want to work 100 hour weeks, but the current economy makes it hard.
>>97828325Gauss is THE necron thing. How can you have any interest in necrons but not like the iconic necron thing.
Is there a Primaris equivalent of the old codex compliant Marine company?
>>97828418Kino
>>97828433>and the fact that you can double up on enhancements is similar to a relic + warlord comboBut you can't double up and even if you could most enhancements don't really align like traits and relics did.
>>97828447Mostly because I find it a pain in the ass to keep track of an abstracted currency that is so powerul in detriment of the actual units and their wargear.>>97828494Not really cause primaris organization is such a mess.
>>97828494Intermediate period
>>97828494>>97828505I imagine this is what GW has in their heads for what your army should look like
>>97828501>First because you can put two enhancements on a single characterI don't know why you mentioned this then, when you said that I thought I had been playing wrong this whole time, but I'm glad I never cheated by putting two enhancements on one character.
>>97828510I mean, it is kind of the most aesthetic thing to see on the table. Big dioramas always have like 80% battleline soldiers.But that's just not the reality of how people collect things. People want to have a variety of stuff to paint and play with so a lot of collections end up more "one of everything" kind of deals.
>>97828503>Mostly because I find it a pain in the ass to keep track of an abstracted currencyNo offence, but having some dice or tokens set aside to keep track of your cp isn't a hard concept to grasp.As for the rules side, I can understand the minor skill curve of knowing when to spend and to hold cp for different stratagems and trying to bait your opponent out to do the same, but that's just learning the game so I can understand the frustration but it is a part of the strategy side.
>>97828511I mentioned it because you could give the your warlord a trait and a relic and enhancements don't let you do that.
>>97828529I use a dice, I mean how to manage them during the game. It's not a mechanic I enjoy and I don't like GW forcing it into every single game after AoS.
>>97828537Oh ok, yeah I think warlord traits would be cool if they came back, but enhancements are just another name for relics so I don't think we need a double up on those.
So are warlords not a think anymore, looking at these new muster rules?
pros: big and cool terrain piecescons: literally costs more than buying gw terrain, like I can get Killzone Volkus for 117 bucks why the fuck would I pay 304 bucks for your 3d printed shit?A lot of terrain sellers on ebay are like this- know your audience guys, the customer base for 3d printed terrain wants prices that are significantly cheaper than the GW stuff cmon.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97828540Yeah I can understand the sentiment, personally I've come to enjoy more balancing act of when to spend defensive and offensive starts. My friends and I have occasionally play a house rule where instead of in each command phase we front load the CP generation so that we get all CP at the start of each game round, it leads to a lot more mind games on whether to to go all in on plays while others use it to whether the storm defensive strats, it's definitely got its own balancing issues but it's a fun change in pace.
>>97828554apparently nar, they've lost their importance anyway, vestigial warlord
>>97828541The current enhancements can stay, I'd just like a table for warlord traits and generic relics for each faction next to the faction rules. So for marines for example you'd have a double spread with oath in one side and the traits and relics on the other side. Then detachments give you extra enhancements specific for that detachment's playstyle.
>>97828554Not like they did anything in 10th.
>>97828562I'd rather scour the internet for months to find a free STL that I can print ad nauseaum
>>97828494>Is there a Primaris equivalent of the old codex compliant Marine company?It's literally the fucking same.
>>97828418Do you like orks :D?
>>97828562>(((ebay sellers)))
>>97828570That would be cool, but you know if that monkeys paw curls it'll be another balance nightmare considering the current rules writers and balance team GW has for 40k.I can't wait to see the combos people are going to be pulling off when multiple detachments are in play.
>>97828568They're kind of important from a narrative perspective though, right? Like, every army needs a leader and a chain of command.
since the apotecary's armour is white, I can save time and money by using interchangeable shoulderpads. Sometimes he can be an Imperial fister, sometimes a salamander.
>>97828594Yeah but that can just be external fluff, no need to have the eternal annoying "YOU MUST DESIGNATE A WARLORD EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOTHING!!!" notification on list building sites/apps
>>97828604Now you're thinking with magnets
>>97828562It really depends on what you want. That's a whole lot of time and material there.I got a set of DoW Space marine terrain for less than 100 dollaridoos.
>>97828524>But that's just not the reality of how people collect things. People want to have a variety of stuff to paint and play with so a lot of collections end up more "one of everything" kind of deals.I would disagree at least in my own experience. For example I own 200 plague marines from just about all the editions and 300+ guardsmen (various regiments). Basically buying the new versions as they release.I have a friend who also owns over 100 intercessors and what he did was just buy a bunch of starters on the cheap.
>>97828615Cheezus anon, that's a lot of chaff.
>>97828615What's your personal favorite run of the plague marines? They all have such good character.
>>97828584I like orks :Ddo you like orks :D ?
>>97828524>But that's just not the reality of how people collect thingsHaving a big number of regular troops is always the coolest thing in collecting a massive army. I have easily 250 traitor guard soldiers and in addition at least 100 of the dark vengeance cultists. And I happily add more to their numbers, because I like troops. I like tanks too, but I rather paint 10 troopers than 1 tank
Imperium should unite with eldar into 1 empire.
>>97828635I will probably be called a fakegrog for my choice
>none of the end of edition campaign books will feature any of the new armies that launched this editionPretty fucked up tbqh
>>97828652Only a real grog would like finecast.
>>97828657GW launched new armies this edition?
>>97828652Nah, Only have nu-plastic Deathguard myself and even I can see the appeal of those old ones. A different but equally cool aesthetic in it's own way.
>>97828665Emperor's Children... Uh, Kroot? Corsairs? What else was there? Votann and World Eaters were last edition. Lion's Cub Club aren't relevant for anything.
>new detachments, mutilators and defiler still not on the official app
>>97828562If there is no customer base for that stuff, they would sell it for less, or don't sell it at all (protocol: you can buy the same stl files printed on temu for way less, with the downside of more visible layerlines).Printing massive terrain like this is neither fast nor cheap (and failures can happen, so they have to calculate it in as well). Also, it's just random dudes selling their stuff. You as the customer can always choose cheaper options.Lastly, kill zone volkus is cool, and I think it's one of GWs better recent terrain sets, but it's not really comparable in its subject.
>>97828652Nothing wrong with a classic, honestly death guard have had a pretty good run with plague marine models.>>97828659>finecast
>>97828676>using the official app
>>97828683What an unexpected reply!
>>97828659They used to be metal
>>97828683What do you use to get updated strats and rules? Do you even play the game?
>>97828689>playing the game
>>97828689Wahapedia.ru
>>97828689Just pirating or wahapedia, although I did get the super special edition tsons codex since my friends wanted the pantheon of chaos fridge magnets, so I do have a code lying around somewhere.
I hope we get updated ogryns in 11th. Seeing some of the weapon options they get access to as well it'd be cool to see those in model form.
>>97828652I wish I was a fakegrog -30 zoomer instead of a 30+ boomer.
>>97828683>redditsaw manxthe amadigital tranny circusWhat a cursed mashup.
Marine bros, when you buy a vehicle and it states that it comes with an "ultramarine" transfer sheet, where abouts could I find one for say something like space wolves? I just assumed that all vehicles came with a transfer sheet that had most chapters on it. Not a marine collector hence the question
>>97828674those aren't new armies
>>97828719Oh, sorryYou must have meant Codex Agents of the Imperium.
>>97828711Add in couple of more buzzwords, you are almost coherent enough to understand.
Not sure if it is just my shop, but has anyone else been experiencing people who seem to hate others making "your dudes"? Like I have gotten some flack recently for using color schemes not belonging to the faction rules I was using. Same with making my own exalted bloodthirster to use as a stand in for skarbrand.
>>97828695Sounds so much more practical than using the app, I stand corrected.
>>97828717Transfer sheets are dirt cheap, just get some online or ask someone at the lgs
>>97828706I'm still under 30 but I started Warhammer at the tail end of 4th, I don't know where I fall.
>>97828733Perfect, im gonna make a conversion for the collage, something ive wanted to do for a long time
>>97828717Most upgrade kits come with a transfer sheet.
>>97828652These were the plague marines at the time when I first got into 40k. I saw in my LGS when I picking my army and almost went with them instead of nids. Really like how subtle they are with the death iconography when compared to the new ones. Both look good in their own ways
>>97828728Autists? No, I prefer to play with the other kind of autists
>>97828728Sorry you got the bad kind of autists anon. Funny enough one of the reasons the detachments were renamed and changed at the start of the edition were because of people like that.
>>97828727one is redditThe other is written by a trannyTogether they are reddittranny
>>97828717https://impatienttabletop.com/
>>97828711>>redditsaw manxthe amadigital tranny circusNone of those words are in the Bible.
>>97828735The random 10yo and what is this kid on 4chan in 2008.
>>97828727>defending the guy who replied with a NPC tier greentext and a shitty "anime" girl reaction face
>>97828751>>97828744A lot of the local scene has gotten taken over by very competitive only types, so that might be why. It has even influenced other games too. I had a khorne corrupted verminlord I kitbashed to use as a bloodthirster, and I got flak the other day for someone who said how was anyone supposed to know what model it was. It was armed with an axe and a whip I hand sculpted for him even.
>>97828674>>978286659th had World Eaters (chaos) and Votann (xenos) with a dark angels major release (imperium)10th had Emperor's Children (chaos) and major subfaction releases for Kroot (xenos) and a reshuffling of various units into Agents of the Imperium (imperium) and technically also Anhrathe (eldar) and Red Corsairs (chaos) and Ultramarines (imperium)
>>97828757Hazbin hotel is the one that's about the bibble.
>>97828764They unironically sound jealous and butthurt. Hope when 11th drops they relax a bit.
>>97828758NTA I also got into the game quite early thanks to DoW and while I didn't come to 4chan until years later I did read the hell out of 1d4chan.
>>97828758Damn, now I'm sad
>>97828728I can understand using ultramarine rules with clearly blood angel models being jarring but as long as you're not pretending mephiston is calgar or something like that I wouldn't care. Being butthurt because your custom dudes are using someone elses rules is completely retarded.
>>97828810there's always at least one zoomer who is like "yeah I had my first boner when I was 11 and posting on /b/ because my older brother left the tab open on his computer in 2010".
For the first time ever i actually need the decal enthusiast to post his models, his dreadnoughts and invictor warsuits in particular. Thought id never say it but here we are
I'm painting a few things in my backlog after Guard previews got me motivated. I have a unit of heavy weapons team dudes with missile launchers I'll work on next. How are missile launchers? Bit of a joke weapon? Serviceable? Would be using them as Catachan's for the reroll hits and wounds of 1 against vehicles/monsters. It won't change my mind on what weapon I use since they're already built, just want to hear thoughts.
Is it modeling for advantage to put a 40mm base character on a 32mm base?
ktfags bring up an interesting note- now that KT also includes monsters like Ambulls and the Red Terror, a whole bunch of monstrous shit could be remade in plastic to sidestep the normal slow process of codex releases.
>>97828767Only about as much as this thread is about 40k
>>97828861they become easier to hide
>>97828764>A lot of the local scene has gotten taken over by very competitive only typesIn my area Warhammer Fantasy was polluted with WAAC tournament fags. If you didn't "propaint" and run ultra meta list they nonstop shat on you. Nobody got into fantasy locally due to them. Pretty sure people like that are the reason fantasy died. Tournament fags are a blight.
I kinda want to get some of those admech horses to recreate this scene
a lot of these 3d printed models are overpriced.... charging 40-50 bucks for stuff just because GW charges 60-70 bucks is kinda gay. But I do like that a model like this, which GW would charge 130 dollars for if they still sold it, is quite cheap.
>>97828908>>97828908except I just noticed the seller is in russia. Does russia even have exports anymore with the 4 years of the 3 day special operation.
>>97828884Not in practice.
>>97828908That isn't a 3d print you fucking retard
>>97828908Some days I hope that retarded newfags get what they deserve
This fucking game is turning people into such fucking assholes its unreal
>>97828764Last week there was a big discussion in the chatgroup of my club about how shit the 40k tables have been compared to literally every other game, because they are just an hodgepodge of L shape ruins. The one complaining where mostly competitive players, who also hoped for GW to fix that in 11th edition.Keep in mind that these people refuse to play with GW guidelines for terrain and instead only want to play with WTC tables because otherwise the game is not balanced enough. (Pic related).
>>97828991Do you think narrative boards give a good play experience for all armies under the current rules?
>>97828990What do you mean?
>>97828953I've been here since 2008, please stop being a fag.>>97828946Well okay then.
>>97828994In my small group we solve that by going "yeah, if we play this kind of stuff everyone gets blown up as soon as you can see an antenna, let's just not do that". But I agree that you can't do that with randoms.
Reposting the collage
>>97828999>I've been here since 2008Nice trips, too bad there wasted on a retard, like C'mon man how the fuck have you not seen fw knarloc before?
>>97828996Everyones so fucking focused on winning and completely fucking raping their opponent that they refuse to give struggling players any fucking help whatsoever And then goddamn talk shit about how those players suck ass at the game behind their fucking backs
>>97829004What kind of stuff do you all elect not to use? Tanks of any kind?
>>97829020Believe it or else this is far more common with the casual pick-up game audience than it is with the competitive player base.
>>97829022There is not a general answer anon. We share lists before games and come together to decide what to bring. If one wants to try a Pantheon of Woe the opponent doesn't limit himself.
>>97828562I suspect that a lot of these people are idiots who pay for the reseller license and then price the entire cost of that license into their first sale.
>>97828994Define narrative boards.
>>97829008Looks like the freer themes mean more entries
>>97829043Wooden board with the whole story of Horus Rising printed on it.
>>97828869Nope, KT does this sort of expansion right before it gets a new edition that overhauls everything. It's like 40k with the narrative books they get spammed the last few months of every edition
>>97829051Nah the new edition is still away. But on September there is going to be the new Killzone and season
>>97829050Impressive.
>>97829014I know it's a FW knarloc, genius, it's been OOP so I assumed that that's a 3d printer or recaster or whatever selling copies. Like what are you even screaming about here?
>>97828843Hw teams are pretty terrible outside of mortar spam. I haven’t seen them much of late. Missile launchers suck in all armies except tau because lascannons and meltas exist.
Working on my first Rubric
>>97829066All I and the other anon's have just tried to point out is that's its either a recaster, or if you're unlucky a scam.But since you started your initial post crying about 3d printing for something that wasn't I'm calling you a retard, and since you've apparently been around since 2008 you should have definitely know better.So either but it of not, just make sure to have buyer protection.
>>97829043Terrain arrayed to create a battlefield landscape players want to enact a battle across without regard for game rules or how the game will play on it until after the terrain is made and placed.
>>97829028No this is the comp scene (at least in my neck of canuckland)These people used to be way nicer but with the push to competitive and especially wtc style differential scoring because of multiple team events in the area, they scrap for as much points as possible and look to table/deny points as hard as they canObviously that shit isnt at all fun one fucking iota but then theyre complete fucking douchebags about it on top of it all
>>97829008Happy to be there
>>97829075If you get the inside trim clean enough you can just use tamiya panel liner/shading capillary effect medium to blend it in>can be done way later, just get some practice in
I hope tzaangors live to see rubrics get updated.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/oefzq9fg/new40k-how-your-army-affects-your-mission/
>>97829089Then that's not what most people want. We just want the terrain pieces to look good and be evocative. That isn't mutually exclusive with having enough terrain and having an interesting layout for gameplay. Mordheim and Necromunda do this all the time.
>>97829113>each Primary Mission has a total cap of 45VP per game, and a cap of 15VP per battle round, with the same for Secondary MissionsA total 90 VP... We are going to have again the 10 VP for battle ready models, aren't we?
>>97829111Rubric Marines are perfect, beautiful boys.
>>97829082>thread is fine and peaceful all night>americans wake up>suddenly get unreasonably hostile replies like this over me musing about things I haven't even done yetTiresome. Maybe don't immediately be a cunt after you've had your brekkie, eh?
>>97829113Still no mention of 9th edition style points coming back.
>>97829145Always have. Paint your fucking models.
>>978291133 years is honestly not long enough for an edition. My brain still thinks 'new 40k' is 10th edition. 5 years would make more sense.
>>97829145Paint your models.
>>97829165To be fair this is more like a 10.5 edition.
Summary of 11e changes so far>Star Wars Legion army building system (minus the wargear)>Star Wars Legion mission selection system>No Star Wars Legion style alternating activations
>>97829159Yeah nah don't be a dick head, especially when you're trying to use gods country as your social shield.
>>97829187>Star Wars Legion army building systemCould you elaborate, I play legion and it's not like legion.
>mystery deck
>>97829211I swear to god if it's 2ed wargear cards...
>>97829187based alternating activations autist, one day you will win, your persistent autism over the years will outlast gw's resistant nature.
>>97829224Not him, but I think if 40k merged the stratagem system with legion's order system it'd be a great mix.The only issue would be how to deal with activation imbalance since the 40k army roster is so varies at this point.
>>97829187Why the fuck would 40k switch to alternative activations?
>>97829165My little bit of hope is that now that tOW has been promoted to a mainline game GW is going to switch to a 4 year edition cycle But I know it's mainly cope.
I want vomits and vomits of all these rules, moar and moar to remember every single turn please.At least 80 rules to mull in a single turn would be great GW.
>>97829247More years of 10th horrible core rules would kill me.
i'm happy i finished some hellblasters
>>97829252Sorry anon we can't have stats, listbuilding and USRs doing the heavy lifting we've lost the technogy.
we should all strive to emulate decal anon
>>97829273never play games and never finish anything, but waste time shoving things up our ass on grok's request? for what purpose?
>>97829273Put nazi references on our models then crash out when no one finds it funny?
>>97829269Speaking of USR's what the fuck is the surge move having twenty iterations. A different one per codex and different per strategems within same codex.
>>97829245To make the game not a fucking slog, it would also free us from the autistic board setups that only exist to prevent 1st turn alpha strikes
>>97829273Getting banned from every community?
>>97829252PLEASE GW I want even more abstract rules that don't pertain to any miniature or terrain. I want more cards and tokens. I want more units randomly teleporting around the board
>>97829258You are getting those anyway
>>97829113This is unironically really cool. It'll probably end up horrifically imbalanced once the hyper-optimizer meta monsters get their hands on it, but even the sweaty tournament rules being built around thematic asymmetric objectives rather than everyone standing on circles is very cool.
>>97829163They won't. Everyone hated PL, they made it the only option and rebranded, and that was that. Went from literally millions of unique configurations for units like Crisis and Carnifexes to like, four.
Yet another "cope rule" that only exists because 40k uses a dogshit IGOUGO activation system
>>97829348>It'll probably end up horrifically imbalanced once the hyper-optimizer meta monsters get their hands on itI bet the winrates will vary by 5% at most but the game will continue to be boring dogshit
>>97829165With the product cycle the way it is, it makes sense. It's the time it takes to launch the edition, then get every faction a codex (RIP Harlequins), then a few campaign supplements. Then fire up the hype machine again. The plastic must flow.
>>97829306You'd just be changing those issues with the issues alt activations have. I'd rather keep playing 40k.
Combat patrol can’t get remade because then Killteam would get cannibalized. Same for city fighting
>Toaster appreciators getting a new unit and a new named characterAd Mech bros how we feeling?
>>97829364>I'd rather it stay dogshit because of marketingActual golems live among us
The one above the TS one is nice.
>>978293633rd edition solved this issue by having good core rules that didn't need to change so once they released every codex and a global campaign they started again and released revisions for the codexes and another campaign.
>>97829370I'm not happy that Admech are getting proper Necron Immortals before we do. But GW would probably fuck them up just like they fucked up warriors
>>97827973>TQI could do a busted thundercav character, it's been a while since my last game tho
>>97829376The thousand son helmet looks more like a slaanesh one desu
>>97829187>>97829224>>97829243>>97829245Here's how you do it: separate each army into say 500 point chunks (call them detachments if you want, the term's already overloaded). AA between those detachments, each one does the full standard 40k action sequence. Unified start and end of turn phases for scoring and resolution. You can either move and activate your one Knight or Primarch or your giant deathstar or a bunch of MSU units, then your opponent does the same until there are no activations left, then end the turn. Hire me GW.
>>97829384Congrats you described Legions Imperialis, which is also a better game than 40k
>>97829371Anon I say this with no ill intent but if you dislike the core, most basic design principles of 40k why don't you find a game you actually like?
>>97829386I have. Whenever I go back to trying 40k it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth. It feels like pure shit to play 40k once you play actually good games. GW makes actually good games too which makes this all so much more suprising
>>97829370I hate women, so the new character is right out.The hench Skittles look good, so I'll pick some up, but they don't really compete with my Ironstriders.
>>97829378Lol, Necrons fans have no place to be complaining about AdMech of all ranges
>>97829396>Whenever I go back to trying 40k it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth.Then stop.
>>97829416I'm more talking about rules, the new Admech immortals look kickass and I think it's awesome they have design similarities with the Necrons
>>97829428I'm just teasing you mate. Sadly I don't think immortals are in the books for necrons anytime soon. Too many characters to update still.
>>97829420It's fun to try from time to time, but 40k is still a fundamentally worse game than OPR, which is saying a lot because OPR is bland as hell. Though I'd check back in for 11e and it just looks so dogshit
>>97829435>It's fun to try from time to timeClearly not, because you say it leaves a disgusting taste in your mouth.
>>97828168I'm just going to use that ultra marine disruptor they gave out in December
>>97829435OPR is probably the only wargame ruleset that Id consider worse than 10th ed 40k
>>97829435OPR shills are thr vegans and linux users of wargaming.
>>97829396What GW games do you like? Considering IGOUGO is their standard for all the big wargames.
>>97829434>Too many characters to update still.All of them are named characters, everything else has been already updated. I guess at best they could make a new Lord. What I actually want is a Pretorian character.
>>9782939640k is not designed to be good, it's designed to be a constant churn of new BIG RELEASES to keep the youtubers making sloppa and the basedjacks buying.
>>97829446Clearly you don't have a friend group to play with>>97829467Dilate>>97829470If you consider "it's better than 40k 10e" shilling then I feel sorry for you>>97829471Legions Imperialis, Kill Team, Warcry
Are there any other examples of 'friendly' Warp entities that humans create and don't realize they're daemons?
>>97829484You keep complaining about lack of alt activations which has been true for every edition of 40k so clearly 10th isn't the problem. I have plenty of issues with 10th and none of them are about core principles that define 40k as a game.
>>97829487She is not a warp entity.
>>97829487Does the Sanguinor count? Or the Legion of the Damned?
>>97829484>Kill Teamyikes
How viable are chaos daemon's, specifically tzeentch and slaanesh, it seems with the new split detachments they should get more viable soon.ever since ratfag has been posting I started looking into vtubers and I found some chick called chromuchromu, unfortunately for me ever since I started watching her she's been molesting in my dreams I don't know what to do, I'm going to murder you ratfag
>>97829489OK buddy sure
>>9782948810e has myriad other problems that are sourced from the bad activation system. I had plenty of issues with older editions as well. 40k has always needed an alternating activation system, ex-designers have openly said this. However it isn't "core to the identity" of 40k so it never changes. It's marketing, you accept a worse game purely due to marketing. This is because you are a lesser animal person
>>97829500You never played a shit game with friends? I take it you have none
>>97829481Flayed one HQ first
>>97829505When Cawl and Trazyn turned on the pylons and banished the daemons on Cadia she was not banished. She's not a warp entity, merely someone who is empowered by the warp.
>>97829508You talk on the assumotion that alt activations are inherently better which is just wrong. It's a different system with its own pros and cons and I'd rather not change the game radically just to have different issues instead.
>>97829513>You never played a shit game with friends?Something that made me feel disgusted? No.
>>97829517It is inherently better, in every way
>>97829500>he’s never tried recreating the human centipede
The Tau Empire should be like the Imperium. Each race in it should have its own codex, and then you should be able to take others in it as detachments, Imperium-style. Start with making Kroot their own thing, then Gue'vsa, then maybe something else.
>hammer and bolter>space marine not wearing his helmet gets fucking merked by eldarThis is why you wear the fucking helmet
>>97829020That's most games
>>97829525>You have a feminine way of typing and living,you seem insecure about a few things, anon
>>97829075Looks good, I'm jelly
>>97829487>>97829493-saint celestine-sanguinor-legion of the damned
Armies that exist, and should:>Space Marines>Necrons>Tyranids>Imperial Guard>Chaos Space Marines>Tau>Orks>Aeldari>Thousand Sons>Sisters of Battle>DrukhariArmies that just barely justify existing:>Adeptus Mechanicus>Leagues of Votann>Space Wolves>Black Templars>Dark Angels>Death Guard>World Eaters>Emperor's Children>Blood AngelsArmies that should exist, but don't:>ExoditesArmies that should just be in another army/exist as detachments:>Imperial Knights>Imperial Agents>Adeptus Arbites>Grey Knights>Deathwatch>Chaos Daemons>Chaos Knights>Traitor Guard>Harlequins>Eldar Corsairs>YnnariArmies that shouldn't exist at all and just be lore things:>Adeptus Custodes>Genestealer CultsArmies that shouldn't exist, and don't:>Dark Mechanicus
>>97829583how many times are you going to repost this stale bait
I was thinking about that Deathwatch battalion they teased for Ormageddon and was looking at the two carnifex sprues I have left over after building two carnies. The thing is that the carnie sprues have a lot of leftover bits, like heads and stuff, so I was thinkin for the Corvus Blackstar I would pile up the heads like a mountain of dead carnifexes and mounth the blackstar on top of it like it's doing a flyby. My other idea would have been like getting the the red terror kill team and setting it up so the blackstar is making a drive by with missiles but that feels like it might be a pain to set up so I can take it apart when I need the tyranid model for tyranids/GSC.But now that I think of it stince it's orks maybe I should get some ork terrain pieces and do that instead.... or make two bases....
>>97829467AoS 4e?
>>97829563Warhammer works on quantum mechanics: the moment it was decided the marine was going to die it's the moment his helmet retroactively got removed
>>97829524Every time we try we end up arguing about places and nothing gets done
>>97829113Interesting.
>>97829583Why do Exodites need to exist? Do Agriworlds need a dedicated army? I could see Exodites as a Craftworld auxiliary like Rangers or Corsairs
>>97829502this guy likes cunny
>>97829487In Psychic Awakening (kind of a nothinburger that ended up being huh) there were a bunch of nascent Living Saints, no?
>>97829575none of these are demons
>>97829502Better taste than ratfag atleast
>>97829595I was pointing out how 11e and Apocalypse are chock full of cope rules that only exist to patch the holes left by the IGOUGO system. That's what happens when you still hold onto sacred cows from Chainmail.
>>97828834
>>97829578>brings up typing habits instead of continuing the conversation>"ha ha, you're ranting because you noticed i have no response"anon...
>>97829583>>Traitor GuardGood thing this isn't an army and also doesn't have a fucking detachment.
Fellas, is it gay to play 40k? Is it gay to think it's a shit system? How feminine do /your dudes/ talk and live? When did you realise you were gay?
>>97829502Tzeentch-centric daemons lists have been quite strong (running Scintillating Legion) ever since the chickens got buffed. That is runinning 2-4 Greater Demons mind, might not be your cup of tea. Slaanesh is in the mud, sometimes lists run Shalaxi.
>>97829610Hellblasters?
>>97829517AA is not without its issues but for a game at the scale of 40k it's almost strictly better than IGOUGO. Defenders being the ones to roll saves is pretty much just to distract from this.
>>97829597Which legion does she go with?
>>97828060Oh that's what it reminded me of
>>97829583I have no objections whatsoever to this list. Impressive, anon.
>>97829629Do you like decals perchance
>>97829624I'd argue the opposite which is why skirmish games generally use AA and bigger games don't.
>>97829616Anon I okay Eldar
>>97829596Eldar codex getting kind of cramped, exodites being their own army appeals to me simply because clowns are eldar with funny masks and corsairs are dark eldar who dn't skin people alive for fun, but exodites have a whole unique roster of knights and dinosaurs that would look odd if you had them in codex craftworlds so you could take a bunch of dinos iwth your elfdurr. Would make more sense taking eldar as allies, like biel tan sending warriors to help the dragon knights fight off the chaos knights (chaos knights and imperial knights hate dragon knights and kaiju battle them). Also an important distinction from ynnari, corsairs and harlequins is that exodites would not have the drukhari friendly rules since they canonically hate the dark eldar, who enjoy kidnapping and torturing their happy souls for extra soul juice.
What should I proxy a morathi model as? Aside from fulgrim cause that one's obvious.
>>97829620be quiet
>>97828053I was thinking similarly, crabmode seems to be the way to go for tsons defilerim pretty excited to paint one up but at this point i can scarcely imagine how to gut my list to fit it
>>97829648>exodites have a whole unique roster of knights and dinosaursThe only interesting thing they have are the Dragon Knights though.
>>97829653But you were supposed to show us your hellblasters?
>>97829199>not moon dustShiggy diggy
>>97829502Unless tzeentch and slaanesh get a some good detachments with 11th your best bet will be the damonkin detachments in the tsons and Ec codexes, I know it's lame but it'll be visible.>spoilerFirst time over ever heard that type of haunting, ok don't know man, maybe figure out if somethings going funny with your relationship because those types of dreams are weird, unless you're into it.>>97829605I like my Rat, chromu is cool but it's weird since she lives so close.
>>97829648>chaos knights and imperial knights hate dragon knights and kaiju battle themYou just listed both of those as Factions that should exist as components of other Factions lists though.
>>97829596Cause they're cool and thankfully you don't make the rulesExodites SOON
>>97829679>my ratshe doesn't even know you exist, you fucking failure
>>97829679I prefer marimari_EN
>>97829667and the knight titans
>>97828067Almost done with the base coats
>>97829686But you do everything in your power to be one?
>>97829667>the army is the only interesting thing they haveWhat exactly do people like you mean when you make dumb posts like this. Their entire army as depicted in official art and gamepieces is either A) guys on dinos/dragons or forts with artillery on dinos/dragons or B) stuff like the Bright Stallion that is basically an eldar knight with 4 legs.They don't have anything else besides that, outside of fanart that depicts "dire avenger exodites' and shit like that that doesn't make sense.
>>97829642I think the only non-GW large-scale wargame that uses IGOUGO that comes to mind is... Kings of War? There's plenty of games that do otherwise, like Conquest.
>>97829679I guess I can hope for a better edition.>chromu is cool but it's weird since she lives so closeWhat in the actual fuck.
>>97829687>thankfully you don't make the rulesWeird cope to resort to when you post a list about what you think should and shoukd nit be an army every day.
Decal man, can you post your dreadnoughts & invictor please?
>>97829685I'm not the decalfag I'm not the activationsfag I'm not the orangeandtealfag I'm not the lamentersfag I'm not the shitpost army list fagIn an anonymous thread not every single post is made by the same fag you identify as your personal nemesis.
>>97829692Kino
>>97829679>I like my Rat, chromu is cool but it's weird since she lives so close.qrd?
>>97829692looks beautiful, what does the text on the shoulderpad say?
Thank you janny man, if it's in your power please consider mentioning a rangeban for him to the mods
>>97828318>tfw painting 5 different units at onceI hate myself
>>97829739Trash cat lives in my states capital for some fucking reason.Anyway, are you doing hobby, I hope your participating in the collage.
>>97829725>when you post a listThis dude thinks he's talking only to one person lol
>>97829636No you sicko I just dont dream about underage looking girls molesting me, get help
>>97829729Okay? On an anonymous image board how am I supposed to know a random reply isn't from the same person? Learn what nta stands for, use it, and address points and arguments instead if complaining how people post in the exact same way of all those autists you don't want to be associated with.Very decalfag of you.
>>97829610Thanks decal man I didnt see this before I posted again, appreciate it
>>97829744that was fast, I didn’t even get time to report it. may he continue to get banned just as quickly inshallah.
Has anyone ever tried to measure the amount of people here that have models? It's not about shaming anyone just pure curiosity.https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQ0WwMn4
>>97829741Slop knott
>>97829583Yes
>>97829779good one
Why exactly did the Emperor give Leman Russ such a small dong? It’s such a strange bit of lore in the 11e codex.
>>97829113This actually sounds great?Less pie plate circle objectives & asymmetric primary missions lead by your army's fluff
>>97829679>your best bet will be the damonkin detachments in thechangehost of deceit is a hilarious detatchment already, just constant bullshit. i'm going to have so much fun with crucible characters regenning rubrics and horrors all over the place. any additional detachment buffs on top of that are going to make it hell to play into.
>>97829794Yeah too bad everyone will just use the mirror twist for pick up games
>>97829716You’ll have to forgive him, there are people in this general so brainrotted they neg every post anyone ever makes.
>>97829793it's to make space for the bigger one going in the back
>>97829767Np, if you need any more pics just let me know. >>97829744>>97829768kek, imagine being these people.
When the fuck are we getting dark mechanicus?
>>97829818Oh right, I forgot about the canonical morning Raw Dog Time on Fenris.
Predict the points cost and disposition of your favorite detachments>Awakened Dynasty: 2 points, take and hold>Canoptek Court: 2 points, priority assetsI bet take and hold is gonna be the disposition for "standard" detachments. Stuff like Gladius
>>97829771it seems genuinely very strange to me that someone would bother posting here without actually owning models
>>97829825What would you want from Dark Mech that you can't already play in CSM?
>>97829825Soon>>97829839Hereteks
>>97829825When the kill team design studio is given the greenlight on the negavolts VS deceiver box
>>97829825maybe as cult units for iron warriors
>>97829832Data-Psalm Conclave 2Cohort Cybernetica 1Skysplinter Assault 2Covenite Coterie 1Mortarion's Chosen 2Shamblerot Vectorium 1
>>97829839Daemon Engines without Space Marines. Space Marines are gay.
>>97829864Just run cultists instead
>>97829839Mortals that do something besides stand there and dieCharacters that are something besides big man in big armor
>>97829794Yeah so far everything they've shown sounds great. Problem is the biggest issues with 10th can't be fixed if datasheets and old codexes need to still be usable.
would dark mech make AI?
>>97829833People have opinions and want to express them.
>>97829892No, same reason CSM don't stop beong xenophobic.
>>97829895because racism is fun?
>>97829892>would darkmech do [any given thing the mechanicus forbids]yes
>>97829892https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kaban_Machine
What should I replace Imotekh's tactical pedestal with?
>>97829913damn that's fucking awesomeI just want big evil robots, bros...
>>97829889I am waiting for the shoe to drop. I still remember "rerolls will be heavy limited" in 10th, followed two days later with Oath of Moment.
>>97829832i doubt gladius will be take and hold. the standard tactical strategy of marines is showing up, blowing things up and leaving. holding is a thing for Imperial Guard and probably Imperial Fists. Gladius is probably Disruption.
>>97829898Because outside of chaos worship they still have the same beliefs as the loyalists.
>>97829931Nah I remember the 10th edition articles and the edition looked like shit from the beginning. Every single thing they showed about the rules made it worse. That's not happening here at least.
>>97829892why would they make AI when they can just put a demon into it? much easier
>>97829938No? No?? No??? The Schism of Mars happened for more reasons than just "lol chaos", and one of them was frustration that research into AI was banned.
started on this guy today and kind of lost track of time. I just kept going.Black pants felt weird and I was about to do a dark muted grey-blue but I think the Tenebrous grey came out good too. Should I do a brighter shade similar to Gut's golden age clothing from Berserk?I don't think I'm doing the eyes either. Idk most of the time it doesn't seem worth the effort to me. I may also try to highlight the armor a little bit more since it seems kind of weak and TOO subtle. As well as doing a little bit more precise shading on the red and tabard for more definition. wdy guys think?
all according to emperor's keikakku
>>97829947It literally happened because Horus promised the fabricator general the STC the technocracy had.
>>97827973>Have you made any fun characters with the crucible rules?
Means Dorn is back right?
>>97829946Are demons good at processing large amounts of data into consistent output formats?
>>97830014Just like the Blood Angels standing against Angron last edition meant Sanguinius was back right?
>>97830018if they whip them hard enough
>>97830014Not really, it just means that narratively the Imperial Fists will be the ones to lead the charge against the construction of the Infinite Citadel.
>>97828843They're not great but are probably serviceable as catachans in combines armes where the frag let lethal hits on infantry and the krak get the rerolls into monsters/vehicles.
>>97829744I've seen people cry to them in the IRC when I lurked there a while ago. Their philosophy is basically "we're not going to block hundreds of users for 1 weirdo"
>>97830021Wasn't that when the Lion appeared to save Dante and the Blood Angels?>>97830049I want him back, I'm a Black Templar through and through and want to see my Primarch.
>>97830049>IFs will die so many that it blur the veil between 2 worlds and Perturabo will finally descend
I LIKE ORKS :D
>>97830014No it's just the last wall protocol and the IF calling back all their sucessors
Phalanx Warders.
>>97830054Then increase the timers for posting from a new IP to an hour or something, anything. Do they really not realize that one of the main reasons 4chan is bleeding users is because people get tired of schizos and shitposters running rampant?
>>97830077Isn’t that what happened with the Iron Cage? Would be pottery.
>>97830098The writing is pretty much on the wall. And the UM will come to their rescue again and we will have Guilliman 2.0
>>97830077>>97830098yes but likely any IW that stuck with Pert to go on this knows that they're part of sacrifice to bring him over
>>97829400She's a magos though, how much of her is even still woman at that point? Plus she's a fucking psycho from what little lore I've seen so far, on the level of>Dear Fleshbags>You claim to not want to be killed but you die so easily>CuriousPlus her mini looks pretty cool.
>>97829113This one's cool, your mission is to try to spread out and booby trap all the L-shaped ruins. I love it.
>>97830090Makes sense the IFs would need all successor chapters, basically a legion in strength to deal with Peturabo. I wonder how close to Terra he's going to get or if he's going to go all the way to Terra considering traditionally the Fists were tasked with guarding Terra so a battle off again on Terra of the Fists and their successors with the Iron Warriors, almost like a Siege of Terra 2.0
>>97830054I’m not a mod, so I can’t know, but couldn’t they just rangeban specifically to /tg/ for a few months? I couldn’t imagine the overlap to living near the mutant and obsessed with posting on /tg/ is particularly high, so as long as you remove him from his obsession for a bit, he should slink off back to r/spacewolves or whatever
>>97830115Terrain area seems to suggest we're breaking free from the yoke of L-shaped ruins and that all area terrain will have the same rules.
How long would it take to get one thousand geneseed from one space marine? It’s like 10 years for an extraction to be ready right? Asking for a possibly insane inquisitor friend. Don’t worry about it
>>97830108It’s not like the IW’s haven’t had 10k years to get sacrifices from somewhere else. Geneseed is what was used to turn Perty into a Demon last time, they could have got plenty this time around from wherever.
>>97830090>>97830120Anybody else read Josh Reynolds apocalypse? In that book it said the Fists reinstated Huscarls because they don’t have enough marines to man every wall. So they just send one really really really good siege marine to a planet. Is that a thing still? Seemed pretty cool
>>97830136They only grow two in their life unless that got retconned
>>978301365 years for first gene seed, 10 for the second. You double every 30 years or so. Assuming you don’t lose any to rejection you get 1000 marines in about a hundred years.
>>97830136They would occasionally implant and slaughter slaves.
>>97830136When creating a chapter, the zygote is implanted in a human test-slave who spends his entire life in a static experimental capsule, immobile and serving as nothing but a medium which from two progenoids will develop. When the progenoids are developed, they are extracted from the original test-slave and then implanted into another two test-slaves, producing four progenoids, and so on. It takes 55 years of reproduction to create a healthy set of 1,000 organs. These must be sanctioned officially by the Master of the Adeptus Mechanicus and then by the High Lords of Terra, speaking for the Emperor, who alone can give permission for the creation of a new Chapter.
>>97830136Something something spermjacking something something Redfield bloodline
>nuStodes box is 3 male 3 female, mono poselel
I love seeing /v/ermin parrot monopose without knowing what it means
>>97830136How long would it take to get one thousand Navigators from one fertile male?
>>97830186>cope
and then desperately spouting more buzzwords when they get the slightest amount of pushback
>>97830188Tech use permitted or only OG penis in vagina fucking?
>>97830186NTA but how are the new custodes not monopose? I guess you can rotate thr heads but still.
>>97830186>passive-aggressive, no-reply, not-even-vague vagueposting
>>97830196i'm looking at the instructions m8chunks of the legs and arms missing if you don't put on that capefinal (You)
>>97830136Keep in mind that one progenoid gland has to stay in the marine until death, (which is the reason Apothecaries are so important), so if you want to go for the doubling route you have to use human sacrifices that you kill each time the progenoids have finished developing. Growing them while also producing Marine slow down the process a lot.
NAKEDFEMALECUSTODESSUROUNDING THE EMPEROR10,000 YEARS
Should I make an Ultramarine or Death Guard army as my next one? Keep in mind I don't care much for painting so whatever I get will be painted just good enough for the tabletop.
I forgot to topcoat my models before doing an oil wash and now some of the old paint came off
>>97830235I remember reading lore that sometimes chapters will remove the more easily accessible geneseed before death, but it’s generally safer for the integrity of the geneseed to wait for the Space Marine to die.
>>97830252what brand of acrylics did you use
>>97830136A hundred years, assuming you're going down the sacrifice route and doing the double-harvest.
>>97830240Gameplay-wise they’re both pretty strong, but Death Guard somehow beat out the poster boys as the rules writer’s darlings. Death Guard are also more forgiving despite the abundance of detail since they are filthy and gross by design,
>>97829583>LoV justify their existenceThis is the nicest thing said about Leagues of Votann in the history of this general
>>97830277Citadel
Give me your best reason why any Imperium army would fight Ultramarines led by Robby other than “we think he’s a fake and you’re CSM.” Especially Guard, Sisters, and Custodes.
Can I get a QRD on why Games Workshop won't sell the new Custodes boxes in stores but is avaliable online? I would assume it has something to do with the female Custodes?
>>97830309Are you retarded? Genuine question
>>97830014>their badges of rank convey extreme seniorityThat is terrible writing. Don't say "it conveys" or "it means", let the reader figure things out through other means. For example someone bowing to them.The point of a book isn't to write your perfect screeplay that unfolds into people's head.>it bears the personal seal and code-identifiers of 1st Cpt Lysander.Why not actually describe the seal and let people who know figure that out?>It's content causes a muscle under the officer's eye to twitch.Just say that the guy reading it had a twitch, people are smart enough to figure out it's linked to what he read.>sign of rageI want to know who wrote this because he does the same mistake over and over again, it feels like a skit.As for>what does it mean?It just mean they're bringing perturabo and of course the IFs will fight back.Omega kek if dorn comes back before russ, ultimate shitfest
>>97829832I think most of the existing ones that aren't super unit-specific will cost 3
>>97830293That's weird, I've never had shitadel rub off because of mineral spirits. Maybe you were too rough on the cleanup or something
>>97829839The thing is that dark mech and cults/traitors/mutants are technically playable with CSM but they feel like half finished factions, not fleshed out. Like how Helbrecht and the old techmarine/iron hands have/had servitors, or how the new Titus ultrumarines have some macraggian militia regiment. Or like how admech was just a techpriest in the guard in lder editions.Basically it's possible to proxy or kind of be like vox machinator and daemon engine spam with cultists, or traitor guard spam but using the guard codex so you can also use leman russ, but it's not a complete or ful army. Turning Techpriest Enginseer into Cult Mechanicus is the idea. Or taking Fellgors and Traitor Guard and Traitor Enforcer and Leman Russ and making a tank that has legs, or a really fucked up giant mutant, or some Blood Pact- you can tak units which are barebones and exist to merely -represent- that those forces exist and turn them into full armies.Also dark mechanicus is pretty strongly implied to have chaos androids and men of iron/Abominable Intelligence since that's usually what is considered to be ultra heretical by martian priests.
>>97830161Yeah but I need a psychopath to kidnap a guy and forcibly create a chapter from his geneseed cultivation singularly
>>97830294>SistersSpace Marines are mutants that deny the divinity of the Emperor>CustodesSpace Marines and Primarchs were a fucking mistake and Big E is no longer around to actually tell us no>Guard“I’m just following the Inquisitor’s orders bro,”>InquisitorsUnchecked authority and access to forbidden information means he believes in conspiracies that make flat earthers look smart
>>97830328Going outside of the High Lord’s authority to make a chapter is already heretic territory so you my as well bring in chaos/warp shenanigans to make it work
>>97830289But I thought the Destinyfags love them.
>>97830229honestly, are there any new kits that aren’t monopose like that? it feels like the monopose complaint has sprung up for every release recently.
>>97830014>imperial fists get a thing>but because Templars are the ones who got all the Unique Datasheet Juice they have to be included too>fists irrelevant even in their own lore
>>97830357Most kits aren't monopose. You can at least freely mix arms and heads to create different poses.
>>97829516>she was not banished.However she was powered down and lost her powers, that already proves a warp connection.Also everytime she resurrects she needs to climb a mountain of her own corpses which is in the Warp. She is a warp entity.
Can dreads get good rules this time? D:
>>97829583everything that had a Codex in 2E should exist. Wolves, DA, BA, and UM are shoe-ins.
>>97830357Defiler isn't, it's got ball and sockets on it's crab legs for extra posing options.
>>97830394WHat dread we talking about?
>>97830294They caught Guilliman in https://files.catbox.moe/6i2mka.jpg with Eldar and assumed he's a heretic.
>>97830357>>97830365NTABThere are two kinds of monopose:- True monopose: as in the whole model has a single pose- Practical monopose: as in a significant part of the model (such as legs + torso) are assembled into one specific wayModern kits are virtually all practical monopose, with a significant amount of them being true monopose.Now you can go and argue about the definition of monopose and miss the forest for the trees, or you can look at the loss of ease of posability for a good portion of kits.
>>97830337>believes in conspiracies
>>97830404The classic castraferrum. It's had shit rules all of 10th.
>>97830399>Wolves, DA, BAThey should've been space marines with 4-5 unique boxes. So should every other first-founding chapter and BTs.
>>97830407>Practical monopose: as in a significant part of the model (such as legs + torso)Only space marines and a handful of kits outside that have ever had separate legs and torsos. It was never the norm.
Oh neat.
>>97830407third category, or is this practical monopose
>>97830424
>>97830014>Means Dorn is back right?>hulking figure, probably larger than a space marine>armor blazoned with badges that show he is very high up in the chapter hierarchy>the man is stoic and emotionless when receiving the message but a singular eye twitch betrays his boiling hatredIt's 100% Dorn.One could assume it is Gregor Dessian the current chapter master of the Imperial Fists, but if it really was Gregor why keep the identity hidden?Dorn is the only one that makes any sense.Unless this is some actual new "Literal Who?" Glub Shitto character that nobody asked for or even cares about.
>>97830235This is what I always thought but I can’t actually find any confirmation of it. It does beg the question: why wouldn’t chapters farm geneseed as their primary method of growth, and treat harvested progenoids as a welcome bonus? Obviously Cawl was able to grow fresh geneseed, or he wouldn’t have been able to make a gorillion Primaris Marines.
>>97830440This was unironically the beginning of the end
>>97830357I just built pic related and while the bodies are fixed the arms are completely posable.
>>97830451would that just mean that Fists put their primarch in solitary containment for 10k years for him to chill out with self sacrificial suicide if he just squatted through war of the beast and all the other shit in the mean time?
Was the Fire Warrior/Breacher kit the last great infantry kit made by gw?
>>97830337Space Marines were made by the Emperor and therefore are his progeny and also divine. If you believe they are mutants, then you're a heretic and deserve to be burned at the stake.
>>97830337I'm pretty sure the Imperial Regent outranks any Inquisitor in terms of giving the Guard orders to fuck off.
>>97830431?MarinesIG Catachans, Cadians, Command Squads of both, Heavy Weapon Squads of bothOrks - boyz, nobz, burnas, tankbustas, lootasEldar - Guardians, Storm Guardians, Dire AvengersDE - DE Warriors, Wyches, Kaballite WarriorsTau - Fire Warriors, Pathfinders, Crisis Suits, Stealth Suits, Broadsides, KrootCSM - same as marinesNids - Warriors, Carnifex, Tyrant, Raveners, Zoanthropes/Venomthropes, Hive Guard/Tyrant Guard
>>97830435The fact we have literally 0 (ZERO) Slaanesh Titan Legios with canon colour schemes will always annoy me.
>>97830440>a significant part of the model (such as legs + torso) are assembled into one specific wayLooks like practical to me.
>>97830451I'd hope it's Dessian, if for no reason other than to avoid more primarchslop.
>>97830452>It does beg the question: why wouldn’t chapters farm geneseed as their primary method of growth, and treat harvested progenoids as a welcome bonus?They generally do, buut the problem is that Marines chapters are not supposed to grow, they are supposed to replace losses and have all the extra geneseed go to the Admech so that it can be used to found other marine chapters. So when a Marine dies the Chapter recovering the geneseed means that they don't have to wait until they generate another to replace the loss. The whole deal of the Badab War was Huron trying to do what you are suggesting.
>>97830130You bitch like a woman, shut the fuck up already.
>>97830463>>97830357>>97830407in that case, just reminds me of old metal minis. Metal body+legs+sometimes head, then poseable arms
Hoping they don’t give Dorn or Pert models, I like the Tetrarch motif too much. 4 Demon Primarch, 4 Primarchs to match, each with their own designated opponent (Gulliman/Fulgrim, Magnus/Russ, Angron/Lion, Mortarion/Khan).
>>97830482>Imperial RegentMade up title.
>>97830475>would that just mean that Fists put their primarch in solitary containment for 10k yearsNot necessarily.Remember, the last in-universe of report of Dorn and what happened to him detailed that Dorn vanished a chaos controlled space ship during one of the Black Crusades, it's not specified which. Dorn boarded the vessel with his warriors but for some reason he was never found. Only thing the Imperial Fists managed to recover was 1 of Dorn's hands.We don't know at all happened to Dorn, only thing we can be sure of is that Dorn definetly die on the Chaos ship, since if he did die there then Chaos would've been parading his corpse around for a millenia. But they aren't doing that.
>>97830431fire warriors, ork boyz, and kabalite warriors all have separate legs and torsos just off the top of my head.
>>97830532Most necron models from 5th edition too
>>97830513and you act like an autistic 14 year old
>>97830527Made up by the Emperor. Though even just being a Primarch outranks an Inquisitor.
>>97830503Pointless addition.Also GW knows that something like Dorn will sell 100x more than Dessian.
>>97830532>>97830537GSC stuff too. these are neophytes. not sure about abberrants or the other hybrids
dorn used to be the most dead primarch and has been getting less dead every edition so 11th being dorn revival makes sense
>>97830441If they wanted to squat it they would have done it in 10th when they squatted all thr variants. They are doing a 1:1 update for land speeders so vehicles seem safe.
>>97830496Knights became a faction right in that narrow window where GW was thinking about removing Slaanesh from both of their settings.
>>97830513How's it feel knowing people are already kitbashing and painting up their space wolves being destroyed after you said nobody would do it
>>97830553>but the sales!Don't care.
What are people's thoughts on kitbashing a unit to carry another faction's weapon as a trophy from a previous battle, and saying "oh I know it's an ork axe, but it counts as a chainsword?"
>>97830579>They are doing a 1:1 update for land speeders so vehicles seem safe.I will be very surprised if the new Landspeeder, despite using the same design, is not at least 150% bigger than the old one.
>>97830451>His armoured Fist clenches slowly about the parchmentNot Fists, but Fist. Dorn?
>>97830570>most dead PrimarchThat’s Ferrus Manus. You can’t get more dead than “decapitated” (unless you’re an Ork).Meanwhile Dorn has been in “never found the body” state since his introduction.
>>97830599Considering repulsors and impulsors aren't any bigger than rhinos and land raiders I doubt it. Vehicles are the size they are for gameplay and if you make the speeder bigger you get the storm speeders they already sell.
>>97830579>Legio >Knights were added-Oh my little Lorelet...
>>97830616?
>>>>978305811) He said Titans2) Lil nigga never heard of House Devine3) Lil nigga never heard of Epic
>>97830615>if you make the speeder bigger you get the storm speeders they already sell.By that logic they wouldn't have made Terminators as big as the gravis they already sold. Also Impulsors are noticeably bigger than Rhinos
>>97830584Its not happening dumb ass
>>97830596My IG Colonel uses a captured Bonesword.
>>97830570As much as I dislike primarchs coming back, if Dorn comes back ahead of Russ I'm going to be doing a lot of smugposting.
Lads I need some help choosing vehicles for my blades of Ultramar detachment, should I go with Gladiator Lancers or Repulsor Executioners?
>>97830581Are you retarded?
>>97830599The old ones were on 60mm flying bases right? The new ones will be on 90mm ovals or 100mm rounds i betmy brother still has a metal 2e one on a flying hexagon base
>>97830662the repulsor executioner is completely broken unfair in blades of ultramar so probably that
>>97830645>By that logic they wouldn't have made Terminators as big as the gravis they already sold.Game-wise new terminators are the same size since they go on 40mm bases still.>Also Impulsors are noticeably bigger than RhinosNot if you glue the dozer blade and not by 50%.
>Russ comes back>as a Bear instead of a Wolf
>>97830615The problem with that is that the Land Speeder has visible marines in the kit, so they can't keep it the same size without also keeping the marines the same size which is noticeably smaller than all the primaris stuff.
>>97830596I play Sisters, is it completely out of character for them to take trophies of past battles? Like gluing an ork banner to a tank or an Eldar sword to your back. Obviously, they can't take anything Chaos-related.
>>97830650>denying reality againwhatever helps you cope, redditor>>97825303>>97827249
>>97830592And GW doesn't care about you not caring.
Don't bully Decalfriend. Be nice to the intellectually challenged!
>>97830581Masterful bait, saar.
Speaking of the dead space wolves collage, which of these skin tones should I paint my Lhykhis with?
>>97830716is that macha
>>97830716Didn't all of Biel-tan die?
>>97830672Game wise 40k uses true line of sight for some stupid fucking reason to models getting bigger does make a difference.
>>97830716Saim-Hann Cinnamon or Ulthé Umber
>>97830722Give me a colour scheme for a Titan legion dedicated to Slaanesh Games (Je)Workship! Khorne and Nurgle get one but not my femboi?!
>>97830650you sure about that? >>97829692>>97828418
>>97830650I bought a SW upgrade sprue just to participate, that's how much of an obnoxious cunt you are
>>97830650Ignore the trolls, deep that head neck deep in the sand.
>>97830684Hopefully Trump nukes Iran or something and the collage falls apart.
>>97830677I mean it won't be the exact same size and shape but it can't be much bigger or else it'll be the size of a storm speeder.
>>97830673The animal or the homo variety?
>>97830727The issue with vehicles isn't TLOS it's fitting between terrain. Terminators getting taller don't have that problem. Making rhinos the size of a land raider and land raiders the size of a baneblade would make them unusable.
>>97830757Does that matter for Skimmers?
>>97830755He was already the homo variety in the first place.
>>97830745I honestly don't see any reason for why it can't be the size of a storm speeder. When they put a new Dreadnought in Leviathan it wasn't the size of a Castraferrum, it was the size of a Redemptor.
>>97830765They can't currently get inside terrain so they still need to physically fit between stuff. Doubt 11th will be adding any specific rules for skimmers.
>>97830742Why would your family dying have any impact on the collage?
>>97830769>was alreadyDude didn't even have a beard.
>>97830775Because it's not a storm speeder, the whole point of storm speeders is they are bigger. The leviathan dread was the same chassis, just different guns. The speeder in the trailer is not the same chassis, it's smaller. Not everything needs to be bigger.
>>97830757If GW cared about that they wouldn't release the Defiler on a 160mm base. Also the Stormspeeder already exist.
>>97830431It should be the norm regardless.>>97830440Practical monopose: legs & torso made in one piece/made to be assembled into a particular way.>>97830521Imagine paying more for plastic that has the same functionality as metal models 3 decades prior.One step forward two step back.
>>97830729Noted. I was considering webway walnut myself, but saim-hann cinnamon is speaking to muh dick. And it'll be easier to bring attention to the face with a lighter complexion like thatMy Lhykhis is primed now, so I'll snag a paint or two for that skin tone next time I'm shopping.
>>97830496>>97830731It's weird we've got nurgle and khorne legios but no slaanesh or tzeentch legios
>>97830792You’re disgusting
>>97830802Yeah I don't get why they put the defiler on a base it's retarded. But it's also not supposed to be a fast recon vehicle.>Also the Stormspeeder already exist.Yeah which is why I don't think they'd make the updated land speeder that big, the big speeder niche is already covered.
>>97830835SOVL vs Not so much
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0ti1ht6dpKwI need the Lord of Skulls, 7 more goremongers and 5 more berzerkers to finish the range.
>>97830839> We're pretending old mutilators looked good
>>97830835both are garbage to be desu
>>97830799>>>97830775 (You) #>Because it's not a storm speeder, the whole point of storm speeders is they are bigger. Nah, the whole point of stormspeeders is that they are primaris redesign to make you buy your vehicles again. They are bigger because GW is making everything bigger nowadays. >The leviathan dread was the same chassis, just different guns. The speeder in the trailer is not the same chassis, it's smaller.Look at the marines anon. >Not everything needs to be bigger.You don't have to tell me this, you have to tell it to GW, which has increased the size of literally every space marine kit released in the last ten years.
>>97830835What a lack of sovl does to a bitch
>>97830833>the big speeder niche is already covered.Oh yes because Space Mariners releases are never redundant as fuck kits for niches that are covered in like five different ways.
>>97830835Trash vs It's okay
