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I like orks :D
>TQI don't give a fuck about traitor guard to be desu
>>97867142>TQbruh just stick spikes on your tanks, no one gives a shit about traitor guard
I am attracted to the idea of a psyker-heavy army, are GKs or Thousand Sons better? Is there anyone else who's an option?
What units should a fluffy word bearers list should include, aside from the obvious like cultists and posessed ofc
I love Legion of the Damned
Response to the guy who wanted to know every army's shtick in three words or less:>Space Marines: Do everything well>Necrons: Tough shooters>Tyranids: Infinite horde>Astra Militarum: Tanks and fodder>Chaos Space Marines: SM, but demons instead of weapons>World Eaters: Evil melee>Tau: All shooty>Adeptus Custodes: Only elites>Orks: Melee horde, tanks>Eldar: Everyone's a specialist>Space Wolves: Good melee>Votann: Bad marines>Thousand Sons: Psykers and demons>Chaos Daemons: Melee and psykers>Adepta Sororitas: Bad>Dark Eldar: Fast but bad>Imperial/Chaos Knights: Only elites>Grey Knights: Bad>Adeptus Mechanicus: The most complicated>Genestealer Cults: Second most complicated>Imperial Agents: Not a real army
>>97867170>Is there anyone else who's an option?Marines have a detachment for spamming librarians. Eldar and Tyranids can also have tons of psykers. Still, the army rules of TS are basically the only thing left in the game that works a little like Psychic Powers used to do.
How do Pink Horrors actually work on the tabletop? I know in the lore when they're defeated they split into Blue Horrors, but I assume that you don't actually need to buy two boxes of Blue Horrors for every one box of Pink Horrors you run, right?
>>97867185>Space Marines: Do everything well>Eldar: Everyone's a specialistSpace Marines stole the Eldar's schtick and stopped being generalists.
>>97867142>TQAs they are right now, a WD supplement is probably the easiest way to go about doing it. Make a simple army rule that lays out which IG units you can pull from, which CSM units you can take with you from the codex, a rudimentary order system, a few detachments and a new chaos vehicle upgrade sprue and it'd be done.
been taking a break from my collage entry.will go haam this weekend, i want to see if i can make it an entire scene
>>97867142>TQLost and The Damned should be their own codex acting as the Chaos version of Imperial Agents that features all of the following:>Traitor Enforcer/Ogryn Bodyguard>Traitor Guardsmen>Traitor Guardsmen HWTs >Traitor Ogryn>Traitor Guardsmen Upgrade Sprue (Basically bits and bobs to make more Guardsmen and to upgrade tanks and shit)>Traitor Russes/Chimeras in the codex, but you gotta kitbash them yourself using that upgrade sprue>Dark Commune>Cultist Firebrand >Cultist Mobs>Accursed Cultists>Chaos Spawn>Fellgore Ravagers>Some new kind of Chaos Daemon that's a big bruiser/melee guy>Maybe some of the bespoke Cultist varieties like Jakhals too.Throw in some Dark Mechanicus stuff and you got yourself a codex.
>>97867191why are they attacking coruscant?
>>97867201I mean, you say that but a basic marine still has twice the wounds and melee attacks and armor of most other factions and some even have decent speed too. Even if they still have specializations they are great in, they are just baseline good in every aspect as well. Eldar have very good specialists who are just bad at everything outside of their narrow specialization and just die without doing anything if they are not played super cagey and applied to exactly the right targets to secure kills without getting wiped on the return fire.
>>97867142Detachment probably makes the most sense, but it would be nice if it came with a a Command Squad equivalent set and an upgrade sprue for vanilla Guard models.
Working on my collage entry and accidently posted it in wip while calling it a collage entry and now I feel very stupid
>>97867238i thought i closed that tab, thought i was smoking too much weed
>>97867185>Votann, Sororitas, DEldar, Grey Knights: BadWhy, specifically? Are they always bad or just this edition? Could the new edition make them good?>AdMech, Genestealers: Complicated Complicated but good, right? What makes them so hard compared to other armies?
>>97867170Thousand Sons are the definitive psyker army, everyone else just dabbles a bit in psykers
>>97867224going to capture teenage ahsoka of course
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
kinda funny that the lore is lile "IF YOU DIE YOU DIE, YOUR SOUL IS EATEN BY DAEMONS!" and the eldar and dark eldar have to do these roundabout ways to not really "die"meanwhile some gangers on necromunda figured out how to raise the dead, with full sentience, with just some drugs
>>97867199Nah that’s how they used to work back when the game had soul, now it’s all streamlined
>>97867142>Would you like to see Traitor Guard represented as they are, as a whole new Codex, or as Detachment rules in the Guard Codex?i would like to see a lost and damned faction with truly unique alternative cultists and traitor guards and abhumans. only really sharing vehicles with regular guard a more reasonable hope? a guard expansion with some upgrade bits to chaosify the guard
I want exactly 0 more "le thing, but with le spikes" added to the game in the next 8 editions.
>>97867224its a planet that is an entire hive city with 5000 floors. why wouldn’t you want to attack it?
is there any confirmation that these guys are actually steel legion? I can see them coming out of the steel legion chimera, but the text doesnt confirm itfrom the 3.5 codex apparently
>>97867199they only split on a 4+, so statistically you'd only need 1 blue horror for every 1 pink horror, but that means 50% of the time you'll need more than 1 blue horror for every 1 pink horror, so yes you'll need to buy another box.
>>97867227The Space Marine roster is full of totally-not-aspect warriors. I don't even think picrel is better in combat than the Fire Dragons they are ripping off.
>>97867302well I suppose the text says "their" chimera
>>97867307any imperial would think he's a possessed chaos marine and would shoot him on sight
>>97867298because it's in a galaxy far far away
>>97867302Those are storm troopers, probably assigned to support the steel legion, but not part of their actual regiment.
>>97867172The good thing about word bearers is that pretty much everything in the core CSM codex can be thematic for them, chosen and terminators are your lord's/apostles inner circle, raptors and bikers can be wannabe iconoclast, warptalons are more specialised possessed, while heavy armour and daemon engines are their to bring the word to heavily fortified worlds.
>>97867307I don't think that Tyranid claw would make an effective weapon if it's just tied to his wrist with a bit of string.
Guard players have a shitsplosion when they don't get another A1, S4, AP0, D1 unit
>>97867325see >>97867311 tho
>guard players when they get another A1, S4, AP0, D1 unit
>>97867325In ye old lore storm troopers were just any number of the high end cadre of imperial regiments, with karskin being a paricular example. Those could just be steel legion storm troopers using the generic model.
>>97867305not practically, since if the whole unit dies in one shot, you dont actually get splits, and the next time you get shot you can take the blues first.
>>97867357Storm trooper regiments borrow other's transports pretty regularly in the lore. It could easily be "theirs" for the engagement.
not sure which to pick for csm 1k alongside a defiler, i do have some old bits for conversions needs be>siege assault from HHcool, essntially a lord and sorc termies to have a kitbash/conversions from but dread is kinda a stinker unless i get some old defiler/soulgrinder legs and convert it to new defiler, planned to run Cabal because Infernal Avatar of Khorne DP seems really funny (till they kill him in 1 shooting)>iron warriors CPwould likely convert the warpsmith into MoP since i already have a warpsmith (MoP doesn't fit in the list but for the future), still Cabal since +1S on guns from psyker warpsmith>csm vanilla CPcultists are nice, but i would need to grab havocs anyway, could do cabal could do veterans>hellforged warbandonly because my lgs has 2 of them and would work with Cult of Arkifane which is kinda cool I guess even if im not most sold on Discolord
>>97867191
>>97867363Stormtroopers have been separated from the rest of the regiments as far back as 3rd edition. The thing that made Kasrkin special is that they actually got to fight alongside their own people on their own world, and were respected by their comrades instead of being viewed as "toy soldiers." What you're thinking of are grenadiers, which are not the same as storm troopers, despite often being represented by the same models on the tabletop.
>>97867302I miss the old tactical cosmonaut stormtrooper models. No one on the usual sites sells 3D printed knock offs.
>>97867413I still have a box of 30 of these laying around somewhere in storage. They're some of my favorite vintage minis, even if I do love the look of the new scions.
i'd like to see a new army of humans. not alien corrupted, not chaos corrupted, not anything corrupted, and not imperium. a breakaway faction who's differences are purely political, weather that has to be some old lore like pocket dimension interex or a new invention, i dont really care, but the imperium/chaos dichotomy is so fucking stale, it needs some new shit.votann were a step in the right direction but they played it too safe with them, their whole range basically mimics a space marines 3rd edition roster.
What is everyone's hair brained wish for the new edition, rules wise?I'm hoping we get a mandate to put every model on a base.
>>97867395
>>97867435wargear costs
>>97867431>not alien corrupted, not chaos corrupted, not anything corrupted, and not imperiumgrim darkness?
>>97867425Tempest Scions remind me too much of Chaos SM with that armor trim and the bulky, outdated plate. Space Marines are already sci fi knights. Scions should be something else. Maybe closer to 30k Solar Auxilia with more rivets?
>>97867431>I want the setting to be more like a generic, conventional sci fi.
>>97867435>rhinos on a base
>>97867211Cancel your weekend plans, the collage has been cancelled due to inactivity and low attendance. Collage anon plans to address the general next month on his plans.
>>97867469you won’t need to worry about rhinos going on a base because they’re going to be squatted next edition anyway :D
>>97867431Iron Warriors can be played as straight up human insurrectionists if you don't utilize the Chaos aesthetics as much by kitbashing models with 30k ones.
>>97867457See I love them because of the stupid trim. They look like they're wearing the best gear that can be mass produced.
>>97867211what are you thinking of making?
>death Watch is the only legion with a unique flyer But why?
>>97867431Retard nigga spotted
>>97867487Inquisition money, bitch.
>>97867487dark angels ravenwing units? csm heldrakes?
>>97867487Space wolves and blood angels had unique ones back in the day.
>>97867482>mass produced>shiny metallic armor trimThese two design choices don't go together. Mass produced is rivets or curved plates for soldiers. Scions look more like they found some old void armor plates lying around from 30k and slapped it on top some carapace armor.
>>97867487deathwatch isn't a legionblood angels used to have the stormraven as an exclusive thing at firstspace wolves had their own cheesy flyer toodark angels still have theirs
>>97867470You need to post you minis again. Been awhile since I got to puke post.
>>97867503We mass produce lots of things without rivets. Their armor looks like it's stamped and welded to me.
>>97867310There's one other difference between marines and aspect warriors and that's that half the time the Exarch has almost half the power of the whole squad while for marines the Sergeant is usually just equivalent to the rest of the squad.
>>97867480>w-we're totally not chaos!fucking cringe, that's a damn nice mini though
>>97867480they didn't ask for your fanfic
>>97867470you're really burning all the bridges aren't you lmao
>>97867513Has there ever been a group that's the reverse of pic, trying too hard to do Chaos that they end up going a completely wrong direction and failing?
>>97867519not really, I mean chaos cultists believe they are their gods' chosen people but really they're just slaves and cannon fodder
>>97867518dude, any and all bridges have been burnt long ago wtf are you talking about.
>>97867503NTA but mass production doesn't necessitate soviet tier shitbox spam. If it's not made bespoke by artisans it's mass produced. The imperium mass produces some high quality stuff like power armour, just they prefer not to when they don't have to.
I don’t like seeing HH dogshit in here.
Never forget
>>97867534good for you
>>97867519word bearers sometimes horseshoe themselves from crazy zealots to just nihilistic opportunists that use chaos because it produces results. Treating the whole ordeal like your average catholic that attends mass holiday by holiday going through the motions
>>97867537>like 4 unitswhat were they thinking
>>97867537I wish I could forget that guard and all guard-adjacent factions were in this game
>>97867515>i'd like to see a new army of humans. not alien corrupted, not chaos corrupted, not anything corrupted, and not imperium>they didn't ask for fanficDidn't they?
I am asking YOU to post models
i wish i was creative, or good at painting
>>97867548didn't admech have even less with just a techpriest and cawl?
>>97867510>>97867529>no rivets>stamped when it has the silly knight armor trim and looks too big to fit on a torsoOkay well the Imperium mass produces void armor for the Navy. Why not simply give Scions the same armor?
>>97867565I'm bad. Here's a model.
>>97867565
What are you thinking of doing to mark buildings as objectives in 11th? I think I'm just going to keep using my objective markers and just place them in the buildings
>>97867574What if you get shot somewhere between your armpits and your ankles?
>>97867574The scion armor is heavier than that. Different role, different equipment. Why do you have a problem with the scions?
>>97867548I mean, there were several of those little mini codexes that only worked on four or five units. It was a weird time.
>>97867537>official art depicts Scions with smaller armor plates and helmets>actual model armor is space marine sized with little arms, legs and head>new Cadian models also have this same issueI hate the new proportions for Imperial Guard.
>>97867526nothing is permanent
>>97867470I don't get why you're repeating this when it's easily disproved just by looking at what's being posted in the threads. I went through all the threads between Monday and now and unless I missed someone that's 12 distinct people posting updates on their collage entries. And again, keep in mind that's only a 4 day period and we still have 2/3rds of the month left.
>>97867565I'm layering black base over black primer on flat panels which isn't interesting enough to post. Have a game pic instead.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97867565here's a doll for ya
>>97867565Almost finished my Red Hunters terminators.
>>97867605You even forgot some in this
such a lust for revenge.WHO?!?
>>97867589What if they just add thigh plates and a carapace plate to cover the abdomen?>>97867591>Scions run the battlefield around doing strikes against the enemy>wear heavy as shit chest plate >Navy men fight in close quarters on ships>wear lighter armor with more mobilityIt doesn't make sense to me. Shouldn't it be switched? The guys fighting on planets running around should wear a lighter load while Navy guys fighting on ships should be built like riot cops?
>>97867613can you stop calling them dolls? its making me feel emasculated.
>>97867613I wish I could have such a handsome fellow.
>>97867605because he's a pathetic, seething faggot
>>97867605All of these images are AI btw.
>>97867621The dudes who drop into super dangerous situations wear heavy armor. The dudes who have to do intense manual labor and sometimes pick up a gun wear light armor.Makes sense to me.
>>97867621>What if they just add thigh plates and a carapace plate to cover the abdomen? Yeah if they redid it like that it wouldn't look so silly. But it does. Even a breastplate would at least be something.
>>97867605>tfw not making it into the wip collage means the final collage will look even bigger
Will there be primaris space marine tactical squads?
>>97867565Posting my current 2000 point army, so that it motivates me to finish my current projects so that I can return to my crisis suits and finish painting them before the edition ends.
>>97867307Terrible
>>97867622nut up and admit you play with dolls, its the first step toward recovery.>>97867624thanks big dog, im sure you paint dolls well
>>97867565dog
>>97867537i actually played this codex back in 7th, they were really fun since pretty much everything was obsec and had deepstrike, plus the different orders were really nice.I did have to pretty much always take Coteaz though since deviniation was too strong.
>>97867638>normal humans wearing heavy armor, not powered armor in 40kThey're fucked. Turtling with a big gun is a death sentence for non-augmented humans. Better to wear a chest plate that will deflect chest damage and quickly take cover than hope the shit covering half your thighs will deflect anything.>>97867642>easy fix to Navy void armorOkay, cool>avoids the reason I brought it upI rather easy fix Navy void armor or be Scion armor than accept current Scion armor.
>>97867261Votann is half of an army, Grey Knights and Dark Eldar haven't been updated in 15 years, Grey Knights in particular no longer function as intended due to rules changes, and Sororitas aren't exactly BAD, but require way more precision than everyone else to get the same results.AdMech gives every unit special abilities and weird little auras that you need to keep track of, while GSC just have a lot of weird little rules about how they move and attack.
>>97867670It was my favorite man. Best game of 40k I ever had was in 6e against marines with this book.I hope we get an IA detachment next edition that lets us bring scions in IA, and gives scion specific orders to give the same vibe as these did. Handing out weapon special rules instead of stat modifiers. It would be terrible, but I'd play it.
>>97867673They're the best of humanity. Stronger and faster. But you're going to ignore that because oldgoodnewbad, aren't you anon?
>>97867673I don't really care about the scion stuff I just think the Navy 'armour' is ridiculous. It's a helmet, a shoulder/neck guard, and a pair of boots. The whole entire torso being unarmoured while there's bulky plates on the extremities is just comical.
Astronauts
>>97867690>reverting to the old good new bad strawmanI simply dislike Grenadiers and Stormtroopers stopped existing so Scions can exist. I literally praised the new Navy Breachers void armor but you ignored that because you want an easy win I guess.
>>97867565my "Dark Host" Exalted Champion :D
>>97867705What about them?
>>97867717fuck off, avatarfag
>>97867699Navy armor is for engineers and technicians wielding shotguns. They are not frontline soldiers. Take away the trenchcoat and add some padding and they would look more like protected troopers.
>>97867717i'm stealing this bruh
>>978677201, that's not avatar use. 2, that's the first time I've ever posted an image with Baelz.
>>97867720uh oh wannabe janny melty
>>97867721But it's an inversion of where the armour should go, which is why it's silly. Modern troops wear an armoured vest and a light helmet. The torso is where you put protection, and the limbs/extremities are unarmoured for ease of movement and because they're not critical to life.Meanwhile this navy guy's vital organs are all completely exposed, but his ankles and wrists are behind massive clunky plate that'll fuck up his mobility. It's got the whole thing backwards.
>>97867706Those things still exist anon. Kasrkin got brand new models and everything. So did the krieg combat engineers.
>>97867565Operation:De-Shittify the Invader ATV is ongoing. Today's first project was sanding and flling this cut up Rhino cargo door into a new bonnet/hood. So far, so good. I think I got the angles surprisingly good for eye-balling it.
>Death Guard >Necrons >Tyranids >Orks who are you expecting for 12th?
>>97867766God speed anon, I respect your endeavor.
>>97867768I would say word bearers, but they're coming during 11th.
>>97867768I would hope dark eldar or chaos daemons
who's the Sneakers O'Toole of 40k?
>>97867766Ngl I just gave up on trying to fix it, took a Tauros and scaled it up by 20% or so
>>97867548>>97867598It was a wonderful time. The best of times. Everyone could have their lousy $10 ebook codex to cover their five pet model kits. Segregating the obvious rules bloat was surprisingly useful.
>>97867565Where my fellow modelmaxxers at?
>>97867818FUCK that's almost certainly better than this is going to turn out, but I'm in too deep. It'll be original at least...
>>97867833
How many is too many characters? Is there a minimum number of units you really want to run? Because I'm putting together a 1000 point Sisters army, and it looks like I'll end up with 20 battle sisters, 15 sepherim/zephyrim, 1 paragon warsuit, 1 castigator, 1 jump pack cannoness, and 1 palatine, and I'm wondering if I should have more characters.
>>97867863Some units are much better with certain characters, some units don't benefit much from characters. Or maybe you just like certain characters. Just watch videos about sisters to get a better idea, I don't play them.
>>97867305man that's annoying. You don't actually get the lore accurate splitting, but you still need extra models.
>>97867833you should fucking KILL YOSELF~~~~
>>97867833Kill yourself.
>>97867431Any “ purely political “ movement would very quickly be infiltrated by the ruinous powers. You can’t have secular rebels in 40k because of how the theology of the setting works.
>>97867742>Cadian Stormtroopers and Krieg Combat Engineers(not Grenadiers) exist so you should be happyI want general use Stormtroopers back with ruleset complementary to my Imperial Guard army. My army is not Cadians, nor Kriegers.
>>97867833Looking good, but why tropical palms for the display when you’ve got a thawing snow base scheme going on? Also how did you do the thawing snow? I assume that isn’t krautcover?
>>97867833Thought you had learned to stay away after you got banned yest and we finally had peace and quiet. Hellblasters status?
>>97867732>judging 40k designs by modern contemporary standardsWhy do this?
>>97867833Spew.jpeg
>>97867897Can't you use Scions and Kasrkin datasheets for this with proxy models?
>>97867897NTA but is there anything actually cadia specific to them besides the name? Genuinely don't know.
>>97867911>proxy models I wouldn't need proxy models if they kept MAKING STORMTOOPER MODELS.
>>97867909Unless his vital organs have relocated themselves to his ankles it's a stupid design regardless of setting.
>>97867899Nice to see someone who isn’t a weirdo. There was someone who was selling desert terrain for cheap, so I picked it up even though I like Space Wolves who are meant to be in snow. For the terrain, I simply used AK snow.
>>97867912>KasrkinTheir entire schtick is being the best Cadians that ever Cadiaed.
>>97867929Yeah but that's just the name of them. Is there anything in the datasheet or model design that is specifically cadian? Any reason you can't just say "this is a stormtrooper from planet My'dude".
>>97867923Do you own tactical 40k models that fit your criteria of not stupidly designed? If not then embrace the silly.
>>97867924God damn you false flagging scum, those are my models and you don’t know jack. Ignore this retardo please. Also stop puke posting on my models every time they are posted, your starting to create a culture of spam.
>>97867908I’m working on my knight right now. the hellblasters are on hold for the time being.
>>97867946This isn’t funny, stop it.
>>97867941>or model designThe armour they wear is specifically kasrkin, who are Cadian shock troops. I know it looks generic but in the context and lore it is 100% from Cadia.
>>97867946But you dusted them off ready to go? They'll just get dusty again. What's the latest progress on the knight?
>>97867950Thank you I was about to post the same thing. Being a Guard guy waiting for anything not Cadian or Krieger to come out is suffering.
>>97867897Those would be scions.
>>97867863I feel like 5 is the sweet spot for 2k point armies. Looking at my lists right now it's>SalamandersVulkan He'stan, Adrax Agatone, Terminator Captain, regular Captain, and an Apothecary Biologis>World EatersAngron, Kharn, Juggerlord, MoE, and a Slaughterbound>GuardLord Drier, a Cadian Castellan, two Krieg Command Squads, and a Leman Russ Tank Commander>EldarMy Crucible Wraithlord character (Formerly Eldrad) and 3 SpiritseersYou shouldn't add Characters without reason though, look for combos that work well with what you have already. The only other army I really collect is Knights, and in that army I take some Subductors led by a Ministorum Priest w/ Vindictor. The Priest gives the Subductors Sustained Hits 1, which isn't a lot but it's pretty nifty. Look for those synergies if you feel like you need to add more characters.
>>97867863Sisters are annoyingly one of the factions that entirely depends on special characters.
>>97867961The fucking reply chain started because I said I disliked Scions making traditional stormtroopers cease to exist in lore and as models.
>>97867897>I want general use StormtroopersJust use scions
>>97867968You can easily kitbash them and use the kasrkin or scion datasheets though. Its the same shit. Most easy counts as in history.
>>97867970See >>97867968
>>97867975just convert scions
>>97867942Thematically interesting cheesy sillyness is one thing, but that uno reverso armour is another thing entirely. It's not grimdark aesthetically so it's not cool enough to skate by. It's like if they made a fighting vehicle with massive steel plates on the windows and wheels but an unarmoured crew compartment. Not gothic weird either. Just tacticool but badly done.
>>97867921You can still get them.
>>97867978Nothing about the Scion models appeal to me. There's nothing there I would use.
>>97867983Where?
>>97867987Just convert storm troopers
>>97867921If kitbashing filters you you are a fakegrog who has not right to performatively perfer old stormtroopers anyway.
>>97867994>just use Stormtrooper models that GW stopped producingftfy
>>97867950Isn't the cadian armour/equipment pattern copied at a wide scale across the imperium? Why would that only apply to regular guard not stormtroopers. Stick some greebles on it or do a bit of green stuff sculpting if you have to. I don't get unique models for any of my subfactions, guard get like three ranges and it's still not enough.
>>97867960You and me both, guardbro. I just don't not care for generic scifi military troops and WWI themed scifi military troops, my one hope for 11th is that they release a more flavoursome regiment of guard in plastic.>>97867974>You can easily kitbash themAnd how would you go about that?>>97867978How? Scions have a very distinct set of armour and overall look.
>>97868001Just buy recasts
retarded 40k newfag herecan somebody give me a decent rundown on what would be a good road to 1k with world eaters and/or csm
>>97867992Nice try James.
>>97868016Not your Boogeyman you schizo.
>>97868025>Boogeyman Should we tell him?
Damn boys, just heard the news about 11th. Haven't played since 7th.
>>97868005>I don't get unique models for any of my subfactionsAnd that's a shame, what faction do you play? You shouldn't shoot someone down for wishing for more just because you don't have though, you can also hope and wish.>guard get like three rangesAre you including the horribly dated catachans in that? Also guard used to have like 7, so yes only Cadians and DKoK in modern plastic smarts.
>>97867768If Dark Eldar don't get a big range in 11th, then they are obviously the 12th edition starter.
>>97868006>And how would you go about that?Instead of being a pussy complaining about how helpless you are with the OFFICIAL GW(TM)(R) SCULPT for your fantasy, why not just jump straight to asking for help on kitbashing OG stormtroopers?
>>97868065First of all I'm not the anon with the original complaint, but I get his side. More models and options is never a bad thing, and I also despise Cadians for how sterile they are. Secondly yes, I am asking you specifically how you would go about kitbashing oc donut steel stormtroopers since you seem to have a specific idea, if you're claiming it to be so easy.
>>97868048Necrons. There's no dynasty specific stuff in there at all, besides committee schemes that never show up in official media. As well as the silent king being a very strong model that my subfaction is currently in a civil war with. I'd have to customise it to make it make sense in my army, but that's fine. It's an excuse for hobbying if I want to do that.It's like, there's multiple different IG special forces models, subfaction agnostic datasheets, shitloads of human fighter greebles for buying or printing, as well as clear and long-standing lore justification for having cadia-ish gear on custom models. I just don't see grounds for complaint.
Summed up lore from the Space Travel article from WD 522:Imperium:-Warp Engines are huge and can only fit in ships that can match their size. -The Imperials utilize Gellar Fields to protect their ships from the hunger of Warp entities. The Imperium uses all types of Gellar fields. Some of the Gellar Fields generators are thought to use biological components-Like with all Imperial technology, the maintenance and operation of Warp Engines revolves around occult rituals and superstition, basically hopes and prayers, more than technical or scientific understanding. Votann-The origins of the Leagues of Votann's Warp technology are the same as the Imperials, but they are more refined and reliable.-Instead of using mutant navigators, the Kin utilize the skills of sentient machines called Ironkin Wayfinders to navigate the Warp. -The Kin travel the Warp through short and precise jumps. It's slower than the Imperial Warp travel but vastly safer. The Kin are more than willing to trade a little speed for safety. Moreover, the Kin can most of the time reliably and efficiently arrive at the where and when of their intended destination. -The Ironkin Wayfinders' skills at navigating the Warp rely partially on the Votann Cores acting as mind beacons. The further the Kin fleets stray from the Cores, the more dangerous and less viable their Warp travel becomes.
>>97868082*Colour schemes
>>97868010Combat patrols are generally a good start, plus as long as you run the jackals as cultist you can run everything in the WE ones in a CSM List.After that it's really figuring out the minis you like and the type of army you want to build.
>>97868088Orks:-Ork Warp Engines are diverse; no two are alike. Some are created from looted Imperial engines. Others are novel creations. This makes Ork Warp travel less predictable and stable. Ork Warp navigation generally relies more on instinct than careful charting. -Instead of Gellar Fields, Orks protect their ships from daemons by placing totems, trinkets, and trophies on the hulls. Also, they utilize force field bubbles as Gellar Field equivalents. If a few daemons make it through these makeshift defences, the Orks don't mind as long as they put up a good fight.Aeldari:-Due to the predation of Chaos, the Aeldari only utilize Warp travel in extremely desperate circumstances. -The Webway is in decline. The damage of millennia has collapsed many of the passages or has seen them overrun by the daemons of Chaos. Necrons are employing the few precious Dolmen Gates that yet remain to them to isolate spars of the Webway for their own use. There are rumours of swarms of extradimensional entities whose monstrous threat had forced the Aeldari to sever entire sections of the Webway from the main body.-The lore stories of 40K create the misconception that Webway Gates are common since they appear a lot in the writing. The reality is that they are rare and too spread apart, limiting the reach of the Aeldari factions in the galaxy.
>>97868010Don’t start a combat patrol. It’s a fucking retarded suggestion. Start with a single box of toys you like, paint them up, and see if you like that. If you like everything that’s in a combat patrol, then get that afterwards.
>>97868100T'au:-Unlike humanity, the T'au technology keeps evolving. The T'au developed the AL-38 Slipstream Modules, reverse-engineered from captured Imperial Warp Drives. These drives allowed the T'au to reach FTL speeds. -The mass use of these devices ended in a disaster (the Fourth Sphere Expansion). However, the devices are still being used by small T'au vessels and messenger drones. It's rumoured that the T'au are working hard to refine the Slipstream modules, and they have already made breakthroughs. Necrons:The Necrons utilize hyperspatial technologies that create gateways called Eternity Gates or Dark Portals. They allow Necrons to travel instantaneously from distant places, light-years away, to their intended target. This means a small Necron invasion may spiral to an overwhelming wave of metal death as Necrons spawn these portals.-Necron ships travel space at FTL speeds using Inertialess Drives. The science behind these engines is so far beyond human understanding that the most learned tech priest has no hope of comprehending it. -The one drawback of Inertialess Drives is that no flesh and blood being can survive the acceleration force that such impossible speeds put on the Necron crews and passengers within the ship. -Why haven't the Necrons conquered the galaxy if they have the best space travel technology in the setting? The Necrons are shadows of their former selves. Their empire is fractured. Many of their armouries have been destroyed or looted. Their ships, though immensely powerful, are vanishingly rare and often in a state of disrepair. The biggest limiter to Necron power is the insanity of their leadership, resulting in crippling infighting and the wasting of resources on futile endeavors. Such is the power of the Necrons. Alas, they don't have the sanity to use it wisely.Tyranids:No lore.GW doesn't care.
>>97868106The article ends with a final comment on space travel in 40K. It says that none of the methods of travel in the setting are accurate to the hard science of RL space science. And it doesn't have to. GW's objective is to tell good stories rather than dive into the complexities of actual space travel. GW is interested in the battles that happen at the end of the journey, and they are sure you (the fans and players) are as well.So stop being nerds and enjoy things on face value.
>>97868082>multiple different IG special forces modelsThere's kasrkin and there's scions. Two, technically multiple sure but I can totally understand anon not liking either. One is bland and generic, the other is weirdly medieval in design.>long-standing lore justification for having cadia-ish gear on custom modelsYou're still missing the point that some people don't want anything Cadia in their guard, despite the lore of their gear being reused. It's personally something that has kept me from redoing a guard army after I sold off my old Catachans, because the guard range since then has just been oops all Cadia! and then just recently Death Korps.
are we seriously complaining about GW's official plastic models for Guard when a ton of third party and 3D print options exist that you can use instead
>>97868010Don't listen to those two retards, buying models is for retards. Start by playing pretend games in your head and thinking you'll start Warhammer one day(you won't)
>>97868129>third partyUsually have a certain non-40K vibe as they change just a little too much to avoid risk of copyright. Please link a third party if you think they do good guard, however.>3D printDon't have money/space spare for a printer.Also again, wishing for more things is bad because?
>>97868138Why are you wishing for things you can have right now
>>97868010Kharn is a 100% auto-include in every World Eaters army, grab him first and foremost. Angron is a cool model but you definitely don't need him at 1k points.After that you want your Berserkers. Buy a box of 10 and see how you like them. A 1k army list should have around 20 of them and you can attach Kharn to one of the squads of 10. Jakhals are also worth picking up as a first purchase to see how you feel about building/painting minis.The current WE Combat Patrol is very solid as a start since it comes with both Berserkers and Jakhals, but if you can track down the previous one with 20 Berserkers and Lord Invocatus that'd be an even better start. Alternatively if you're British you can probably run down to your local shop and see if they have the Combat Patrol magazine, the World Eaters issues should be in stock currently as they just started that batch. For the remainder of your list you should fill it with stuff to assist your Berserker Blobs. >Kharn (100 points)>Daemon Prince of Khorne (200 pts)>Master of Executions (60 pts)>10 Berserkers (180 pts)>10 Berserkers (180 pts)>10 Jakhals (65 pts)>Helbrute (120)>Chaos Rhino (85 pts)Kharn and the MoE are with their own squad of Berserkers, and Kharn's squad starting in the Rhino. Jakhals are your points monkeys to sit on objectives, while the Daemon Prince and Helbrute are your only real ranged damage dealers.
>>97868098That's somewhat what made me interested in WE to begin with, just the fact that their CP seemed better (and ig cooler) in terms of the units it offered and point count compared to the CSM master of posession CP and I don't care about corsairs and night lords.As for detachment I suppose the berzerker warband is a solid place to start, but its more of a assumption based on what I've seen rather than something I'd know.>>97868104Are the units in WE patrol unusable or what. As far as I was told WE has fuck all range and all of the units in it are probably something you'd want as a newfag, but sure let me know if I'm full of shit.
>>97868143Then please show the class where I can get these things right now. I have browsed many a third party and not been satisfied yet
>seriously talking about the meta to a new fag when the edition is ending in like 4 months and using that as a basis as to what to buy I would dump my sizzling acidic cum down your noses for being be so degenerate and it still wouldn’t redeem your souls.
>>97868143The Imperial Guard USED to have some variety besides Cadians and Kriegers. I want that variety back with better detailed models from GW. It that really too much to ask compared what Space Marines get?
>>97868150You have never painted, let alone assembled a modern warhammer model. Get acquainted with that first before thinking about playing.
>>97868164Forgot pic
>>97868112Yeah I get it (and I'm not trying to shit on different opinions just express my own so no hard feelings etc), but I just don't think more than a handful of distinct ranges for one faction is realistic. Even that much is more than most get. GW isn't going to spend the money to make so many different sets of baseline humans in different flask vests, realistically, that's throwing money into a pit.There are also multiple KT boxes of different spec ops like breachers and elysians, as well as kitbash fodder like arbites and krieg combat engineers. I'd love even half of that variety for, say, lychguard or immortals. But I don't expect even that much, because humans get the focus when you're making a game for humans to buy, of course. Guard don't get everything but they get a lot, probably more than any faction short of marines. Also any other regular human models at the same scale can be proxied or kitbashed, so with WW2 and other tabletop games there's a huge wealth of parts on the net that xenos don't have access to. Im not mad about that, but I just don't think you guys have it bad at all.
>>97868164What this guy said >>97868167Actually don't even bother getting models or reading the rules just give up before you even start.
>>97868176Fuck off.
>>97868167You know GW does free building and painting tutorials, right?
>>97868161My man he wants to play World Eaters, it is a safe assumption that Kharn and Berserkers will be relevant to the army for a long period of time regardless of edition or rules.
>>97867705>mfw I will never have anon's art skills
>>97868148that is close to what i conjured out of my ass on newrecruit, ty for actual advice>>97868167I actually have at this point with various successes and failures ready to fuck up some more, but I fully expect putting together angron will cause me more physical pain and mental anguish than couple of models from intro boxestbqh i wanted to start this just out of interest in modelling rather than playing the game, that is more of a long term goal
>>97868173>to make so many different sets of baseline humansAnd yet how many flavours and redos do we need of marines? You're angry at the wrong people here, be mad at James and marinefags, rather than the guardbros who are in the trenches fighting for subfaction representation alongside your xenosympathiser ass. This is like being annoyed when people complain about low wages, you should be mad at the billionaires hogging all the moolah.>breachesAre distinctly navy, not guard. Also a KT does not an army make, one could not make a whole Elysian force out of that one squad box.>with WW2 and other tabletop gamesYeah "heroic scale" tends to fuck that up big time.
>>97868161nigger, current codexes will still be usuable in 11th so until they actually get an aupdate it will be safe to assume that units will be staying pretty similar power wise.The biggest shake up will be the new detachments and multi detachments, but all the units that guy listed are a core of world eaters so having them won't be a problem.
>>97868211Dude melee, terrain and the lack of objectives are already going to be massive changes for the game, admittedly some of those changes look to be for the better for world eaters, but it’s going to play somewhat different.
Does 40k have a Potential Man? That character or faction who's always>muh could become big and importantbut never does and everyone mocks them for always failing.Hard Mode: No Ynnari
It’s game day folks, have you played one recently? My friend brought out his terminator spam wolves to fight my tau. Didn’t really work out for him, ap-3 d3 is pretty good even if I miss half my shots and wolfguard are -1 to wound.
>>97868221Grey knights I guess
Vashtorr is a set up to add Dark Mechanicum to 40k
>>97868221The Imperium.Their Primarchs return, but they do little to nothing to change the trajectory of the setting.Then you have the Emperor waking up thing as he would be magically more powerful than he was in the 30K past where he got his ass kicked by Horus using a fraction of his power.
>>97868223Marines with absurd amounts of wash give me PTSD because that used to be me
>>97868143>no good guard prints mentionedlol>>97868164>>97868172>scions, and atillans exist as support forces>ratlings and ogryns also exist as support forces though aren’t part of any particular army.>steel legion was announced, and they’ll likely be out soon after the armageddon campaign. >catachan refresh is inevitable >vostroyan’s are likely to refreshed later on because they’re very unique.>a bunch of one off models from other armies are likely because GW won’t know what to make, so they’ll dig through the archive for inspiration. the (real) diversity is coming, the new toys must be sold. trust the plan.
>>97868232Who?
>>97868221ZOAT!
>>97868202I don't think another plastic guard range is going to help make dynasty-specific necron models a realistic proposal. It's a nice sentiment but realistically that's a bit of hot air. The point being that there is a broad variety of baseline human kits for building as-is or kitbashing. Very wide. Could there be more? Could it be better? Sure. Is it limited enough to complain about? No, not even close.The Hierotek Circle KT box for example is just existing kits in a slightly different pose, absolutely zero kitbash fodder there for customising a dynasty. Again I'm not mad about it, that's xenos baby I knew what I was getting into.Guard have the parts in those KT boxes and on the net to bash a custom human army together with some effort and care, on top of 3 distinct flavours (1 is old but will inevitably be rehashed, and the parts can still be used). Guard is just not suffering for variety, it's not true.
>>97868221T'au and Slaanesh
>>97868238They’re just all contrast painted. Guy is a good dude but his painting skills fucking suck. Speaking of, who wears it better.
Tiny Legend is the only person who does Guard models right.
>>97868242what is he thinking? what are his plans? what does he want?
>>97868245love me (g or m)orkanauts.
>>97868239>buy scionsNo, I don't think so.>buy Ogryns and ratlingsNot a distinct army>fans had to actively shit on GW for them even to mention Steel Legion meaning they're 10 months away>REFRESHES SOON>no announcements so it's bullshit you made upWow, really convinced me, not.
>>97868252>wrong helmet
>>97868244>want more canon Guard models>you have HUMAN models and should be happy because HUMANS = distinct Guard uniformsWhelp I guess you can just buy some Tomb King 3D printed knock offs, kitbash with some Necron bits, paint them metal and bam your Necrons have such variety by your logic.
>>97868288Sure? What’s the issue with that? It’s your hobby.
>>97868223Not since 3e. But I'm elbows deep in two armies currently. Maybe I will even finish building and painting them before 12th.
>>97868244I think the biggest thing that has been brought up a couple times already is that guard used to have plenty of regiments to pick from, however. When you go from having a great variety down to two main official options it hurts, and despite talking about how much third party/prints are out there I've yet to see someone link any good ones. In any case, my personal wish would be for marines to get half the focus they do, and that energy be used to flesh out subfactions for everyone else. I will never get mad at someone who isn't a marinefag crying for more options in their army.
i regret throwing away my failed attempts at plastic bit replication.i could have created a giant corpse pile of SW for the collage
>>97868251Right is def cleaner
>>97868311You re-educate those Gue’la into the fucking soil?
>>97868293>it's (You)r hobbySo will you do it if GW doesn't gib Necron Dynasty Models or upgrade kits?
>>9786828Official ranges:Three different ranges is three times more than any other faction besides marines. Will presumably be four, when steel legion eventually arrive.Kitbash fodder: Vast wealth of bits to choose from. More than even marines get.Official subfactions:Different official uniforms, not just paint jobs, is again something only guard and marines get to my knowledge. Most require kitbashing, but the ingredients already exist in great variety. I won't agree that guard are struggling for variety.
>>97868317Eh it was my buddy wanting to try horde mode, so ~1k Space marines each against Necrons+ Tau.We kept on rolling high on spawns so it was literally turn after turn of new Stormsurges and riptides which was pretty ass to play against. Killed my view on the game mode
>>97868319That wasn't me, but no. I just won't say I'm being treated badly either.
At times I wonder what Guardsmen tactics make the most sense given eve Flak Armor is really good against artillery and Lasguns being able to harm vehicles is way better than modern rifles against today military vehicles.
Should I move my Lhykhis telefrag project onto a 60mm base? I don't think there's anything I'd want to do with the base, but it's a ~80mm model on a 40mm base at the moment.
>>97868323>>9786026>Last thread died. This is the most recent, assuming we are to exclude the mutants.damn, even back in 2010 they had a mutant problem
>>97868328>treated badly Ah, Victim Complex strawman. How shallow and pedantic. Imperial Guard deserve restoration of their previous models. This isn't begging for models and designs that didn't exist decades before like Metal Tomb Kings in Space.
>>97868354>Shallow and pedantic Ok man, there was no call for that but I'm going to end the conversation here if it's going to just be shit flinging now. Feel free to post "concession accepted" or some garbage like that.
>>97868323I won’t disagree being able to choose from WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Modern, and proper sci-fi militaries is pretty good, but>Vast wealth of bits to choose from. More than even marines get.you delusional. even if you’re talking about 3rd party bits, it still isn’t true because most bits aren’t the same scale, and the heroic proportions warhammer runs with will make everything look comically undersized.
ork bros, how are we feeling right now?
>>97868365You were responding to two different people. Both of us were correct that GW has every flavor of Muh-reen but Guard for the last five years are Cadians and Krieg or fuck off. You didn't even post what army you run but you get to take the highground of "you don't get to complain" somehow.
>>97868371pretty good. still liking them :D and I’m excited about what’ll be revealed next, but I would like to inform you that I just realized the ork in your image is shitless and does not in fact possess a triple chin like I’ve thought he’s had every time I’ve seen that image.
>>97868223I had a pretty good game recently, with my Black Templars against some Imperial Fists. Ended up losing 51-52, it was a blast.
>>97868370Non-guardbros don't understand how slim things actually are atm. They see a bunch of human models around and think we have a bunch of options without thinking harder on why they're incompatible or unsuitable
>>97868378Yes I did post my army. Yes you get to hold your viewpoint, but I get to hold a different one. That's life. I'm not going to call you names for disagreeing with me.Catachan exists (old models do count if they have a datasheet and are sold). Steel legion is confirmed. There's a handful of KT boxes with different bits ripe for kitbashing. There's a variety of officially confirmed different uniforms to kitbash or sculpt as. Lots of human flavoured gear STLs you can resize before printing to fit scale if you need to.Guard are, in my opinion, eating good for variety of models. Second to marines with a big gap between them and third place.
>>97868221Alpha Legion. They have never done anything despite apparently being one of the biggest legions. Even in 30k they didn't do anything.
I hate orks D:<
do you worship giganigga or niggagiga?
>>97868393And my favourite pic from the game. Vindication task force doesn't feel like a particularly useful detachment, but having my terminator ancient be nigh unkillable was pretty funny.
Are you going to help her?
Catachan refresh this, steel legion that blah blah blah GIVE ME HEAVY WEAPONS IN MY INFANTRY SQUAD
>>97868405and that’s why your army will never get a refresh :)
>>97868223Played last night. Got to take my Cadians out for a showing for the first time at the LGS.I have not been keeping up with 10th, but those reveals got me in the mood. Freshly painted a Rogal Dorn Commander for this match, that thing is a very fun centerpiece gunboat
>>97868398It's been explained to you by two different people how the KT boxes and other options aren't adequate, and Catachans truly are old enough to not be a valid choice.>just proooontThen you can just print necron bitz, simple as.
>>97868415>:O
>>97868418A fun moment where the opponent put Tempting Target on the centre board objective, so a big unit of Cadians took the challenge and charged onto it. They had lost their officer to Death Mark sniper fire, but by the God Emperor they took it.
>>97868411I want to rape Reinhard.
>>97868425>>97868418Kino, sick models anon. Looks like a fun game
>>97868371feeling fine, I'm pretty happy with my army as it is so anything new that comes out is something cool to add or something bad to ignore
>>97867709Holy shit that looks awesome>>97867766Operation Report: warthogination +14. The hood is set. It's all mock-up at this point, but hopes are high
>>97868398>I did post my army>doesn't link the post nor name drop the army>goes on about having to jump through extra hoops to "make a Guard army" that other factions simply get to skip>mentions spess muh-reens but muh Guard can't catch up to themUntil Steel Legion models are shown concept art means jack shit.
>>97868422The KT boxes are just fine for a variety of special forces, and the bits can work for customising an army. Not perfect but more than non marines/guard get. Like, arbites torsos would look real nice for up-armoured guard infantry.The catachans are old but do exist, and you can trim bits off then to customise. They'll also get a refresh at some point, inevitably. Again not perfect but more than non marines/guard get.There's an order of magnitude more 3rd party human war gear to proont than xenos, obv. Not even close.I think that's perfectly adequate, but I'll be happy for you if and when you guys get more. If only everyone could have marine level variety that would be great. GW would have to ignore their bean counter's protests to do that but hey it'd be nice.
>>97868450I mentioned my army like four times in different posts. But to save you the effort of scrolling up, it's necrons.
>>97868436Thank you, still working on the flesh and getting angry at the resin flash that I didn't clean up :')I really like the mock up, i'd really recommend pic rel if you're wanting fill in any gaps once you have it built
>>97868452>KT boxes are just fineUntil you buy more than one and have duplicate dudes everywhere, fun. What Elysian list only has one squad?>arbites torsos would look real nice for up-armoured guard infantrySo I have two buy two boxes (one arbites, one cadian) for every squad in a horde army? Yes very good solution.I know you're a newfag, but I just miss the character and colour of shit like Mordians and want it back. I also want more cloaked Cadians beyond the upcoming KT box so I can make a Tanith force, but I know they will just leave it at the one piddly box. Some more kits and upgrade sprues aren't a crazy request.
>>97868409I love how muddy those yellow boys are
Working on my collage entry might make me start a small Night Lords army.
>>97868468>DuplicatesIf you want more than special forces out of them, the bits are there to bash into a cadian box. With some time and effort sculpting you can make that work if you want to. >Have to buy moreThe option is, at least, there. That option is not there and has never been there for practically all other non marine or guard armies.>I know you're a newfagSwing and a miss. Still not going to start insulting people for having the audacity to disagree with me on the internet, but you do you, mate.
>>97868465Interesting. My plan was to jam some green stuff into the gaps if they looked shitty and carve off the excess.
>>97868409I love the idea of BTs holding up a Sigismund flag to IFs.>"RAAAAA SIGISMUND">"Yeah dude we know him"
What are some of the best IG color schemes you guys have seen out there? Need some ideas.
>>97868472this one art piece alone almost made me pick night lords
>>97868482>the bits are there to bash into a cadian boxWe come full circle back to>>97868112>some people don't want anything Cadia in their guardAt this stage if you're going to plug your fingers in your ears and ignore everything coming from the mouth of two guardbros, acting like you (a non-guard player) know better, then name calling is on the table.>Swing and a missSomehow I don't think so when you type "bits" and are a nucron fanatic. I didn't mean newfag as an insult, I can just tell you weren't around in the glory days of multiple guard regiments.
>>97868459>it's NecronsSo this isn't you? >>97868328 because this post denies ever wanting Necrons.
>>97868497Early WW1 French uniform. Red trousers, black boots, blue jacket, red hat
>>97868497You mean Cadian color schemes? Your pic implies you're running a Cadian pattern army.
>>97868492i like greenstuff to fill in gaps between miss-aligned peices, but when it comes to gap filler i really like plastic putty since it's a lot easier to use for that job, still requires clean up though.here's a vid of it in use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OkliRDK8TEI've also been experimenting using it for gore, but i'm still learning.
>>97868497orange and teal
>>97867833Really nice
>>97868497I'm not a guardfag so take it with a grain of salt but I've always liked Vostroyans for their colors. If you're talking specifically with Cadian pattern armor then I'm a sucker for a good camo pattern, especially urban or desert, but I can understand why most guard players don't do them.
>>97868502Then bash into a krieg box. Or sculpt to replace the cadian specific details, retaining the pose and inconsequential stuff like pants and arms. It's not perfect but there are more plentiful options and more bits to work with than other armies is my point. Your own personal preferences are interesting but not hugely relevant to that point.I can post a 5th edition codex and same era metal model timestamped if you like. If about 15 years is newfag tier, then sure I'll own that lmao.
>>97868510I would like the extra variety, but I won't say I'm hard done by for not getting it, was the point.
>>97868518Yea
>hanging with friend who I've been running TTSim 40k with>he's almost exclusively a chaos knight player>offhandedly call knights a "stat check" army>he gets mad and passively aggressively implies I'm being hyperbolic I really really really really hate GW for making them a full armyIt's just a magnet for timmys
>>97868510Oh, I get your meaning. That one post 97868293 was another anon but everything else in this discussion was me or you two guys I believe.
>>97868534>I'm okay with having nothing Okay, so don't enter the discussion then?
>>97868541Just run a shitload of anti tank and if he brings it up say he's being hyperbolic. Only do this if you want to ruin your friendship over 40k.
Why did Word Bearers receive two new books back to back? Including a new model for a character in the Horus Heresy book? As well as the fact that Defilers have a Word Bearer option? Are Word Bearers actually going to be the next update to Chaos Space Marines after Iron Warriors? Should I hold off on painting an entire army as Word Bearers in case they're getting a whole model range?
>>97868501Yeah, curating the right bits for my diorama has really made me appreciate them a lot more.
>>97868529>Then bash into a krieg boxThe ones with huge greatcoats? I'm sure that'd go well.>Or sculpt to replace the cadian specific detailsLol, lmao even. This one comment just goes to show how little you understand about the guard and what is Cadian.And out of all these options I'm having to buy multiple boxes and do a crazy amount of sculpting or printing on my absent 3d printer... Just concede the point that it'd be nice to have some more regiment options for guard, now take the L and go print off some necron dynasty bitz.
>>97868545Oh grow up. At least address what I actually said, not some fantasy strawman.
>>97868544Okay so you're Necron Dynasty anon. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
You know, I think GW would head off a lot of Guardsman player bitching if they released regimental upgrade sprues, similar to how they do Space marine chapter upgrade packs. Yeah, it would just be a stopgap for regiments that differ significantly from Cadian-pattern flak armour, but it would be nice to be able to pick up a officially sanctioned pack of heads with some bits for adding flavour to character models and command squads. >pack of heads wearing ushankas to stick on Krieger bodies for Valhallan Ice Warriors>Shemaghs and keffiyehs for TallarnThat, plus kill-team style releases for weirder regiments like Vostroyans, Chem-dogs and Catachans would solve pretty much all the guard's perceived diversity problem.
>>97868522Noted. I didn't know that was a thing; thanks, bro
>>97868549You'll be fine, I seriously doubt they'd give non-cult legions their own codex
>>97868541The worst part is they're perfectly fine as a one-off ally piece to a larger force. Knights really shine as the big centerpiece tank equivalent. Hell the detachments they made for IK/CK where they could take cheap infantry are fucking kino and if they're gonna insist on making knights an army that's the direction they should've went in with household troops/slaves/whatever the fuck. One or two big knights, a couple armigers/wardogs and a good chunk of infantry would make a perfectly fine army.
>Sisters Repentia are known to be extremely sexy looking>Extremely popular for both cosplaying and art>GW updates their designs to covered fron head to toe>No one draws art of the new designs, cosplays as them, or even use their models as they try to get older Repentia models or 3D print the old designsWhy is GW like this where skinned humans is fine but boobs are bad?
>>97868548I'm whipping it out next timeMind you, he's new and we're slow so we play 1k armies
>>97868541They should be rolled into Darkmech, same thing with Imperial Knights into Admech
>>97868554Yeah you would have to do hobbying for a custom army. Never said you wouldn't. Simply said you have plentiful official and non official materials to do that with, as well as more options than most non guard or marine armies. It's not perfect but it's better than most factions.Just relax man I haven't insulted your mother or anything, we're talking about model range variety and have different viewpoints. It's really not that serious a thing to get heated over.
>>97868555>GW owes Imperial Guard army builders restoration of what they had before with detailed renditions of Guard Regiments>IG are next in line for it after Muh-reens>five YEARS later still only Cadians and Kriegers>all you say is "just kitbash">while GW rakes in cash teasing Steel Legion with (1) Yarrick model and some basic ass concept artMaybe if they released Steel Legion WITH YARRICK instead of embarrassingly putting Cadians and Kriegers in the Armageddon trailer we wouldn't be having this discussion.
>>97868572>he's newDoes he have an actual army IRL or is he only playing on TTS? Because if he's just bought into the hobby and you're telling him his army sucks then that's really mean. If not, maybe you could suggest that he buys something that isn't knights instead.
>>97867185I play IG and Nids.>Nids: BIG GUYS 4U>IG: you don't have enough guns to kill ALL these men>also IG: hiding behind terrain is useless
>>97868575>it's better than most factions"You can't complain about your wage we all get paid like shit!"And we're heated because you won't listen and keep bringing up the same arguments and "options" which we're sick of debunking why we don't want to do those options. This is now pointless so I'm reduced to just insulting, your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries
>>97868575>GW used to make distinct IG Regiment models>now they don't >it's been years what gives?>you got it good, you get to buy multiple kits now to achieve...the same thing GW used to sell years agoYou seem to avoiding the point by making this a "heh you suck at this hobby, git gud" pissing match.
>>97868549It'll be similar to the iron warriors update with an upgrade sprue and a few characters, the coolest thing coming is their Undivided Choas entitiy.
Everyone says this hobby is expensive but you can get a 2k point army for half the price of a gaming PC. I swear the people saying this have bought like 20,000 points of models at MSRP.
>>97868579He might move in because I'm getting him a job near me and he's CONSIDERING doing a CK army borrowing my setup if we're still into it by then, but it's 100% online for now.
How come we didn't get cool fight with Angron and Ghazghkull beating the ever living shit out of each other?
i hope one dying SW and two separate piles of dead furfags is sufficient for a collage entry. i'm still new, so i'm not quite good at telling stories with minimal details yet
>>97868593So hold off on that and have Drukhari or SoB as my second army, got it.
>>97868597Because everyone working for GW knew Yarrick was coming back.
>>97868597jobber vs jobber, who jobs?
>>97868576Two is twice as much as one, which it's all most get. More is on the way, too. Not starving. I hope your steel legion is good and your catachans refresh is soon though.>>97868583I am listening, but I don't agree with your points, like how you don't agree with mine. Just telling me what you think doesn't force me to believe it. Guard have a good range that has promised expansion. You *have* options others don't, whether you prefer them or not, they still exist. So to me, they count, because your personal preferences don't exclude them for existing.Your mother is, I'm sure, a lovely and kind woman.
If the anon with the Mymeara army is here, what did you use for your Revenant Titan's base? Like how big is it in diameter and where'd you get it from?
Necrons, then Tyranids, then Orks.GW needs to start showing Chaos some respect. They're the real adversaries of the setting.
>>97868601You can defenitely build an army, and once the new stuff comes out it'll slot in pretty easily.Also, is this the "new" HH character model you're reffereing to?
>>97867222there should be themed beastmen for every god, so Fellgore Ravagers, Tzaangors, Nurgly Beastmen, Khorney beastmen, Sexy Beastmen, CyberbeastmenPut in the resin and HH ogryns, so Plague Ogryns, Berserker OgrynsLess tanks/tank variety. only 1 or 2 Russ Statlines (Strike - MBT, Vanq, Exter / Assault - Demo, Punisher, Executioner)MAYBE no Chimeras, only either Tauroxes or CentaursMutant mobs. just T3 W1 no save or 6+ masses, 5+ bs/ws, wielding stub guns and ccws, slow, shambling, needs to be led otherwise they're shit, Objective Swarmers/fodder
>>97868601no that's not what she said. Word Bearers are probably just going to get an upgrade kit like Iron Warriors or Red Corsairs, mostly shoulderpads. You can start a WB army now and just attach the left shoulderpad with a teeny amount of superglue so they're easy to take off and replace with the sculpted ones if you want to
>>97868603Helbrecht should finally catch up to Ghazghkull and die to him horribly. It'd be fun.
>>97868607Did you miss the 3 editions they were they were in the starter box?
Would a pattern like this be too time consuming with greenstuff + a pattern roller for a whole army?
>>97868616That was almost a decade ago anon
>>97868587I've never said the ig range is better than it used to be, and you won't catch me saying that because I don't believe it. I'm saying their current and future planned range is extensive, and has more options than most other non marine armies.
>>97868618i'll add a couple details, just for you, "anon"thanks for the encouragement
>>97868619and?
>>97868607wasn't it chaos 3 in a row before that?
>>97868609Oh I thought that was a new model, I'm blind.
>>97868625most 40k players weren't here for that.
>>97868605>hope your steel legion is goodNo offence to the SLanon who sometimes swings by but more drab colour greatcoat guard is not a thrilling prospect>inevitable Catachan refreshYay, more drab green guard another 3+ years in the future...>whether you prefer them or notWe've been indicating that it's not really a preference thoughbeit, you think these are valid options because (you) don't understand guard and their armour design. It's also just not financially viable to kitbash two boxes min for every squad in a horde army. But no please tell us of more kitbash options we have that'd both ruin our wallets and be a pain in the ass to actually pull off.
>>97868621>current IG range>extensiveJohnny johnny, telling lies?
>>97868599>stories with minimal detailsIn my mind they're not stories so much as micro-scenes. For example my chapter master cut off his opponent's left hand and right arm and then shot him in the gut with the combi-bolter's plasma gun.
>>97868633We're stuck on this. What you personally prefer isn't relevant to me. IG have significantly more options than other non marine armies. You don't like those options? Cool, great, I don't care. The IG range still has all those options, and isn't suffering from a variety accordingly.Also fine then, I hope whatever you personally prefer gets announced for you soon. Slap that outreached hand away too if you like.
>>97868642It's NotAPreference. Kitbashing Cadians still looks like Cadians, this isn't preference it's fact. Unless you put in wayy too much effort than you'd like to with a horde army, oh and spend your life savings doing so. But no you're not sticking your fingers in your ears and going lalalala you're truly listening, I forgot.
There a reason you all roll your eyes at Imperial Guard players? Of every army to go against, this is where you draw your line in the sand. Why?
>>97868653I don’t have any issue with IG. Though they do seem to be one of the most likely armies to be unpainted in my experience.
>>97868652>Unless you spend time and money Yes?The options exist for you to go outside your two separate ranges for the one army. Two ranges is already more than other non marines, but you don't want those two, or the old catachans, or the new steel legion, which is the preference I refer to.It would be expensive and time consuming to hobby up a different range, yes, but the official parts exist to at least make it possible, discarding prooonting.It's like it only counts to you if it's perfect. It's not perfect. It's more than most get.
>>97867768Surely GKs, if only because they're tiny now.
>>97868642>IG have significantly more options than other non marine armiesSo why did GW make a big deal out Steel Legion refresh at the end of the year then? Almost as if they know IG lost a lot of options from decades back and redoing the Imperial Guard army that started the distinctive regiment uniform models as a concept and had their own codex (Codex: Armageddon) signals wanting to address the issue by doing the bare minimum.
>>97868640my character is about to decapitate a SW, and i'm thinking "there's stuff happening just off screen in two different directions" i've already come to terms that my shitpost will leave me with 3 circular "dead SW" objective markers
We wouldn't have this problem if they squatted imperial guard
>>97868679Your obsession with SW has become nearly sexual in nature, stop being a weirdo and seek help.
>>97868667I repeat, again, an infeasible amount of time and money for a horde army.>the old catachansYeah you can just use the oldcron models y'know.>>97868667>It's more than most getDo I have to say it again? This is such a stupid line to try argue...
>>97868675See>>97868621They have less than they used to, yes. But more than other non marine armies, with yet more on the way. They're not in a bad place compared to, say drukhari. I don't have anything to say when those guys bitch.
>>97868682
>theme is dead SW>sees "decapitate">associates it with sexualitywho do we call for authorities in america? i think he'd be euthanized by now if he's canadian
I need to get some custom scion chest pieces made for my guard army. I want all my cadians and krieg to also have the scion chest armor. Anyone got recs for a decent and cheap 3d printer?
>>97868693We're going to remove your right to vote you stupid slag
>>97868687>They're not in a bad place compared to, say drukhariSo nobody but drukhari players can complain and wish for better, okay pal
>>97868679I'd say the scene idea idea is just "these guys are/were trying to do something." Maybe one of the dead SW markers is of a squad that got ambushed while performing an objective, and they now lay slaughtered around an antenna, or a suit of empty terminator armor.
Remember if you stay silent as a chapter or adjacent chapter brother during this clear and obvious negative vendetta towards one of your brother chapters then you are approaching the realm of chaos yourselves, you've been warned.
>>97868703my chapter openly teamkills any furfags they see and the inquisition thanks them for it
>>97868685Uh huh. If I type "kitbashed 40k elysians" into Google images, absolutely nothing shows up. Completely impossible to do. That side, It's expensive and time consuming and could be better, absolutely I agree. But official parts exist for more than the already nice two ranges, and official alternate models exist that are more than paint scheme changes. Which is more than most get.I can and do use oldcron models (pre revamp metal, not chaos android era I'm not that old).>>97868698You can say whatever you want man, I'm not stopping you. Not everybody in the world is going to agree with you all the time. Some random anon thinks differently than you do, get over it.
>>97868704then your chapter is most likely completely irrelevant to the plot and has outdated and stale models that would cause fellow modelers to hurl on sight.
>>97868703>as a chapter or adjacent chapter brotherYeah ofc I'm a real marine lmao I love to larp all the time teehee
>>97868707wrong it's a custom chapter with lovingly kitbashed models that have won several local competitions because I actually care about learning how to improve my skills as a painter unlike our resident furfag :)
>>97868687>just buy GW stuff anyway and kitbash it>even if it's something you don't wantSo if I kitbash my Guard Regiment then GW releases it officially out of the blue just fuck me right?
>>97868706>Some random anon thinks differently than you do, get over itThe ironing
>>97868704This is basically my homebrew chapter's fluff too. Inquisition lackeys are fun.>some Ordo Astartes inquisitor gets butthurt because space wolves said he and his investigation can kick rocks>inquisitor goes for some petty vengeance and tells the Victorious Fists that the yiffs are defying the Inquisition>Victorious Fists get a free check to engage in warfare against their fellow loyalists
>>97868711I'm stating my own viewpoint. I've gone out of my way to not get personal and say I do hope they get the model announcements they want. I meant it too.
>>97868706>Uh huh. If I type "kitbashed 40k elysians" into Google images, absolutely nothing shows up.
>mfw finally using that one empty sprue that's been lying around for ages
>>97868718Anon. That was sarcasm.
>>97868715>I'm stating my own viewpointLoudly, repetitively, choosing to argue with two people about their own faction and not backing down. You could've conceded differing viewpoint ages ago but chose not to so it's rich you're saying that about others.>do hope they get the model announcements they wantThat's cute and all but it's not going to happen. As you stated SL are next and then it'll be Catachans who are in dire need of a refresh. Two drab regiments, more interesting stuff like Mordians or Vostroyans when I'm retired, maybe
Anyone have the stuff on battlecruisers out of the old battlefleet gothic books?
>>97868703“Brother chapters” my ass. We fight and die alongside them for a time, and then they leave us to our long war against the outer dark. It’s not our place to worry about another’s honour when survival is a more pressing matter.
>>97868715You never should have stated it. It's worthless. If you left the complaints alone hours ago you wouldn't need to defend your viewpoint at all.
>>97868281>depleted deuteriumthat doesn't make any sense
>>97868718>just Cadians with a headswap
>>97867278humans aren't eldar thougheverbeit
When assembling a second unit of models for your army, do you intentionally start kitbashing their weapons around just to make things look different? Like giving model 1's boltgun + arm to model 4, just because.
>>97868725>Loudly, repetitively, choosing to argue with two people about their own faction and not backing down.Do you hold any opinions about a faction you don't own? None at all of course, I'd believe that. C'mon man. We've each been as repetitive as each other. Not backing down is part and parcel of someone else having different opinions to you. That's how that works. I concede you hold a different viewpoint, I'm not trying to change your mind, I just won't make your views mine.>>97868729Back at you.
>>97868749>I'm not trying to change your mind>after half a thread arguing
>>97868749>I'm not trying to change your mindThen stop giving me (You)s.
>>97868753I'm capable of saying what I think, without expecting everyone else to tow my line and think the same as me.
>>97868712I've posted them several times and you just ignore them because you know you've lost :)>>97868713based
>>97868757Okay well then I too can say what I think, so we're going to go around in circles forever. I enjoy being your lifetime argument partner, buddy
>>97868757>people disagree with me and that's a good thing!Ah yes we're so very proud. Who's a good boy? You are! You're so smart!
>>97868770Good. Hugbox groupthink circlejerks are dull.
>find out there's a new lgs near me I've never heard of>look it up>card games with a little bit of board games onlyGod damn it, I'm so sick of the only lgs with miniature wargames being 1hr+ drives away.
>>97868771>Agree with me or I throw a tantrum
>>97868775Repeating the same argument back and forth is even more dull tbqh
>>97868785I'm sure you have local groups advertising on FB and other social media tho...have you checked dick sucker kun?
>>97868775>Hugbox groupthink circlejerks are dullJames wants that though. That's the problem.
>>97868790>if I keep stating you shouldn't be bothered then I get to post something!>I sure love posting the same thing over and over without room for doubt or discussion!Give and you shall receive my son.
I need a safe space to be a man.
Guardfags can’t stop losing. The WAAAGH is upon us, orkbros.
>>97868804When I said >That said, It's expensive and time consuming and could be better, absolutely I agree. and other things like it, that was reaching out to find common ground in the discussion, yeah.
>>97868823You really can't stop replying, huh?
>>97868831Bro we've been trading (you) for (you) evenly all day just the same, I'm not bothering to tell you to stop replying to me.
Real talk why do sally and a few of the other model posters even bother with this place still? Like you don’t post anything controversial most of the time anyway, why not use normal social media?
>LGS traders putting up a bunch of cheap admech listingsDid something happen?
>>97868849>Bro we've been trading (you) for (you) evenly all dayYeah, that's the problem. You could've kept your (wrong and unimportant as you don't collect the faction) opinion to yourself many posts back. Instead here we are a gajillion posts later with nothing of value to show for it
>>97868876Because this place is the pinnacle of free speech you retarded mongrel.
>>97868001Recasts exist. printers exist. Dont be such a baby
>>97868885You keep saying shit you're doing too, as if you're not doing it too. You could've not replied, or backed down, or any of that as well anon. But I don't need you to, because it's fun to see different opinions and hugboxes are gay.Talking about things on an imageboard is the point of the imageboard and I've enjoyed this.
>>97868884Yeah they're confirmed squatted.
>>97868897Ah but you see the difference here is that we as the guardfags are correct, and you just a smelly ape
>>97867278The bodies might be alive, but Death Maidens are pretty much flesh automatons. It's also indicated that the soul doesn't escape the body right away, since Dark Eldar take the (wealthy) dead or what's left of them to facilities where their souls are transferred to new clone bodies.
>>97868904What the fuck how dare you call me an ape you little shit c'mere
>>97868638Bro they just got like 5 more models. It you include OOP stuff its absolutely massive
why has this last 4 months of releases been better than the entirety of 2025
What army should I start for 11e?
>>97868950Eldars.
>>97868950space wolves
>>97868950Who cares what a bunch of randos think, pic which ones looks the coolest and most fun to paint.
>>97868950GSC.
>>97868950<your dudes> csm warband
>>97868957
>>97868950Word Bearers
>>97868963>>97868964Spamming faggots
>>97868950I chose Ultramarines
>>97867413https://madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_19&products_id=635These knock offs but the proportions are off.
>>97868965Fuck you
>>97868916You should've never left your tomb world, alien.RANK UPSHOULDERFIRE!>>97868950Guard
>>97868982What did i do?
>>97868652>Kitbashing Cadians still looks like Cadians, this isn't preference it's fact.Imperial guard will still look likeImperial guard, so yeah, you’re right. Why bother with bloating the range? The new kill team has just made me more apathetic than I ever could for 40k. Fucking genestealer cults are more 40k than something regurgitated than the guard is as a concept and execution.
>>97869009"Cadian" is not a synonym for "imperial guard". Hope this helps!
>>97869018Imperial guard is a synonym for lame ass cad slop however.
>>97868950Whatever army you think looks best, though Space Marines will always be well supported.If you don't have any armies, you can probably grab Tyranids and Orks pretty easily from prior launch boxes. Value armies otherwise would probably be Custodes?? Maybe?? I don't know how the new box will translate to 11e
>>97869018It is on the table, that's all that matters.Just like GSC can sprout out anywhere but on the table they're always miners.
>>97869018Cadians didn't invent the look, it was already in use before they were a thing.
>>97869026>>97869029Missing the point entirely
>>97869026Miners are easy to groom.
>>97869030Is this decalfag
>>97869030Just say you don't like Cadians.
>>97869033Obviously not, read at least some of the reply chain and you'd see that and hopefully get a clue why what's just been said is pointless to the argument
I'm leaning towards either guard or gsc. I like infantry. I like tanks. I like swarms of both.
>>97869042It's almost like I did around 20 posts ago, but you can't be bothered to scroll up and read the chain you're jumping into
>get excited about chaos knights>their entire model line all looks same minor weapon differences What a letdown
40k only makes guard less and less interesting, the people here don’t help that either.
>>97869050kitbash
How do I psyop myself into liking painting trim and fine detail
some progress on the nemesisi don't have a lightbox big enough to photograph it properly lmao
>>97869050Good, knights are not a good fit for James' "balance"
>>97869051>guard>interesting >"omg they're le humans but le gas mask :O"
WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY RED BUTCHERS GW? TS GETS UNIQUE AND DH GETS 2 UNIQUE TERMINATORS BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN DO SPIKY TERMINATORS WITH TWO AXES?
>>97869054I hope you're gonna paint the cockpit
>>97869058just buy the tortuga bay ones they're perfectly in scale with eightbound and they're a little cheaper
>>97869057Thanks for proving him right
Kind of tempted to get Death Guard, I like the sound of the slow, tanky but powerful kind of army
>>97869065it's impossible to make guard interesting
>>97869058James doesn’t know how to make terminators anymore. See the recent HH terminators. They’re gonna make them breedable.
>>97869065>dude le normal humansIs boring in a setting where 95% of the factions are humans or close enough, the only truly alien race are Nids
>>97869058I honestly don't want them to make red butchers after what they did to the cataphractii in 30k
>>97869058kitbash
>>97869067What is interesting to you, anon? What is so uninteresting about all the guard regiments?
What do you think of my new faction>chaos nids
>>97869075bombastic aliens and superhumans>uninterestingDUDE LE NORMAL HUMAN IN LE CUHRAZY UNIVERSEguard are for aphantasiac faggots who got kicked out of historical communities
What’s a faction that can let me justify putting actual gundam models in it with some conversion work?
>>97869059yeah current plan is to do that whenever i don't feel like painting a big part the head's in several pieces so i can easily access everything
Can I play Tau competently with only mechs? I don't like the alien slaves or the infantry or tanks all that much, but the mechs are really cool.
>>97869072>>97869083>dude le space elf!>dude le space evil elfs!>dude le space orc- oops I mean ork!>dude le space bugs!40K is very derivative, I don't see how space [military] is that much worse. Personally I just love massed gunfire and plucky underdogs
oh my fuckin SCIENCE is that an all female faction that are appealing but without pandering to the male gaze and are appropriately dressed in form over function A24 style battle armour and the punish men and are a lesbian polycule? oh my sweet science I MUST play the sororitas
>>97869092The only time "dude le plucky normal humans against giant alien threat" has been interesting was in the EDF series
>>97869084Tau ofc>>97869089Yes, thanks to weebs like you GW has pandered to and made Tau far too mecha.
>>97869093>and the punish menYou tried
>>97869098>enjoys EDF, the most generic kitchen sink ever>hates IG for being too derivative Atp you have to be trolling
Why can't GW get good writers to make an Eldar or Dark Eldar book? The last Eldar that I read that wasn't a punching bag was The Last Hunt.
>>97869099Tau don’t have mechs. They have battlesuits. And crisis suits are too small (because they are not mechs) to be proxied with. Also they never really gave off that weeb vibe, I think that’s just something the audience shoved onto it like krieg shovels.
>>97869084orks
>>97869106Omfg an actual otaku pedant, they're mech enough. Also>riptide>ghostkeel>broadsideAre not big enough to proxy?
>>97869106>never really gave off that weeb vibe
>>97869124Yeah still not weeb enough considering how ugly their armor is.
>>97869106>never really gave off that weeb vibeIt has been exaggerated and flanderised sure, but be real there is some weeb vibe.
>>97869136Funny you bring up their armour, which is based on feudal ashigaru style and design...
>>97869124You can make the circle bigger, the whole armor is samurai style
What even happens if a Sororitas gets pregnant?
>>97869144Good job sister, that's another one for the schola progenium.
>>97869138Badly executed however thoughbeight. So it doesn’t matter.
>>97869150So now we're just moving the goalposts? Cool story.Anyway if you're the type to go>ackshually that's a battle suit not a mechThen yeah I don't think 40K has much for you
>>97869018To be fair, GW used the 'Cadian Shock Troop' minis as 'generic Imperial Guard' all through 2nd ed.Because they were the generic soldier guys, unlike Catachans, Tallarns, Mordians or Valhallans.This didn't really change with teh plalstic minis in the folowing editions, either.
>>97869144How the Sister is treated presumably depends on the Order, but in almost all cases any resulting offspring would be ultimately sent directly to the Schola Progenium.
>>97869166Forgot the picture like a retard.
>>97869158It’s not a goal post, it’s a literal fact. >Then yeah I don't think 40K has much for youWow sorry I actually care so much about this cool thing when compared to 40ks lamely executed thing.
>>97869102>hates edfHOLY soulless
>>97869092uh oh guard/v/ermin melty
What is the coolest model in your favorite army?
>>97869049I'm not reading 20 posts of you sperging out for nothing. If you don't like them, don't like them. Don't try to excuse it with something deeper than that.
>>97869101>models literally have punished men on themSororitas are the definition of a Twitter army
>>97869172The goal post was "weeb vibes".>top knots>daisho>feudal Japanese soldier inspired armour>caste system>mechs :^)>anon grabs the goal and shuffles it back 50m>n-nooo they're ugly so doesn't count!?
for imperial fist scouts, would a greenish khaki, Olive drab green, or a warm earthy brown work best for the pants? I'm going for a warm yellow and charcoal chest imperialis
They should’ve went harder on the nuns with guns theme rather than making sisters discount space marines.
>>97869186Being Badly executed simply invalidates whatever you just posted which I’m sure can’t be conflated with other Asian cultures.
>>97869166I'm aware, and Cadians make fine generic poster boys just as ultras do. But this reply chain was just a couple of us expressing we wanted more than Cadians and gas masks for guard and some random necron player discussing that with us.>>97869183>Don't try to excuse it with something deeperHuh? It's no deeper than "I want another guard regiment in plastic over the course of 11th" and no, SL don't count.
>>97868703Holy cringe
Guard rivet counters are so fucking obnoxious
>>97869197This
Imperial Fists primaris intercessors
>>97869192How could they possibly make them more nun? And how are they too space marine?
>>97869214It's so embarrassing, larping as fictional factions on here.
>>97869182Killa Kanz and Deff Dreads
>>97869232Almost as embarrassing as trying to argue that tau aren't weeb
>>97869229>How could they possibly make them more nun? Something something trench crusade >And how are they too space marine?Power armor is everywhere dude.
>>97869232Exactly.
>>97869251>something somethingWow yes so specific and inciteful.>Power armor = space marineOh no look at all these marines!!
I like the new terrain rules they showed. It seems like vehicles won't be able to get cover now, which sort of makes sense to me honestly. At least more than the current "one tread is slightly covered by a rock so I get +1 to my 2+ Save".What do you guys think about the stuff they've been revealing for 11th so far?
>>97869263Anon you’re not gonna believe the complaint with votann is…
What else could GW add for Aeldari besides a Bonesinger, Shadow Spectres, and a refresh of Karandras?
>>97869264>What do you guys think about the stuff they've been revealing for 11th so far?Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic
How would one paint Dark Reapers in an Iyanden color scheme when their armor is black and their face plate resembles a skull?
>>97869275No anon? Please tell me whilst I post more space marines
>>97869239Great dreads anon.I hope 11th edition lets us take more. Only 3 is not enough. I miss the days that they could be taken in squads and split off, letting you take up to 9.If nothing else that new mek gun walker datasheet might justify a couple conversions.
>>97869287Moving goal posts but yeah eldar are on the space marine scale but not as much as sisters or votann. They lack the space for it for it to be as punctual.
>>97868707>that would cause fellow modelers to hurl on sightHoly projection.
>>97869295>eldar are on the space marine scaleOkay the idiocy in this shitpost is starting to make my head hurt a little but let me post my favourite chapter of marines. You keen for their new astartes kill team anon?
>>97869301Tau are ugly, so yeah I can see them being similar to sisters and space marines at large, but they don’t have power armor. So you fail here.
>>97869306Aw, a powered exosuit doesn't count? That's where you draw the line, sisters and fucking eldar are somehow space marines but the terminator sized stealth suit and dreadnought sized crisis/broadside suits aren't?
>>97869315Like i said, they’re ugly, but they aren’t anything like space marines. Cmon post drukhari so I can post how they’re more like sisters of battle than space marines.
>>97869289yeah the gun walker will hopefully be a good target for looted conversions
>>97869324>still no specifics to back any of these claims upYeah nah, your shitpost has lost credibility, if you wanted to keep up this strange larp you would've set power suits are marine af. Much preferred "tau aren't weeb"
>>97869337Power armor is a spectrum anon and you can’t seem to get a read on it sadly anon. Tau are more like orks than they are to the marine.
Hmmmmm, maybe I'll... buy more models without painting the models I have
Bros I'm still lost on what army to playI have random models from a bunch of different factions but can't make a commitment
>>97869344I think I’m just gonna play battletech instead because this game is looking like shit. Gw hasn’t made a good game in the past 15 years.
>>97869347Yes we should all play Battletech™ , not to mention it doesn't have the transphobic chud audience 40k has
>>97868745Yes. A knife and some greenstuff will make things easier
I thought Greenstuff went out of business
>>97867413>tfw got 30 of these from a friend Can't decide if I should paint them up as inquisitorial stormtroopers or do something else
>>97869301That burst cannon looks off on the suit. Barrels not aligned with gun shape?
>>97869378the perspective is wrong
>>97869251More wimples
>>97869324Drukhari are about the least space marine army in the game. Even Guard is more Space Marine than them.
>>97869392see>>97869229
So now that the the edition is over, can we all finally agree that Necrons were the worst faction in the game to play into this Edition? They are just made of NPE compared to most other factions. Even Eldar have the decency to actually die once you pin them down. And now next edition they are going to have army wide stealth and loneop tricks from terrain too
Time to give Dark Pact to those rubrics
>>97869436MORE WIMPLES
Is there ever a time when using metallic paints is defensible over NMM? And which armies can get away with it?
>>97869591If you want to paint and army and finish it that year.
washes over metallic paints scratches an itch for me
>>97869591lmao
>>97869591>Is there ever a time when using metallic paints is defensible over NMM?I like the metallic paints. Also fuck spending 4 weeks painting a single damn model.>And which armies can get away with it?All of them.
>>97869591You could always put more effort into your metallics beyond just wash+edge highlight.
>>97869591Just because metallic paints can look lazy doesn't mean they're bad. They look totally fine when used sparingly and highlighted appropriately. Does nmm look better? Yeah, usually. But it's one of those 20% of the effort for 80% of the quality kind of deals. And sometimes you just need to be more economical with how you spend your time in painting your army when you have a hundred models to get through. Pick one centerpiece to do nmm on if you really want to.
>>97869591How come people with no skin in the game (in this case someone who doesn't paint nor own models) talk about what is and isn't defensible when it comes to model painting?
>>97869296That looks exactly like the dog gimp masks that the BDSM people wear
>>97869680You lost.
>>97869682Yeah I wonder why
>>97869682At least they don't have literal ball gags like Lamartes for blood angels.
>>97869688But enough about you.
I keep getting emails from the DoW4 devs telling me I am NOT selected for the next wave of text.It's been the fourth or fifth time, I'm gonna start taking it personally.
>>97869263You're right, those aren't marines. Those are Terrans from Starcraft, who are based on the Marines.
>>97869741Six degrees of Kevin Bacon inspirations
>>97869736I think people begging to alpha test a game is kind of incredibly pathetic. People want to spoiler themselves, see every little update to the game they will play later anyway. They want their first experience with the game to be the actual most unfinished worst version of the product because they are absolutely DESPERATE to CONSOOM CONSOOM CONSOOM. Same with the Dark Heresy playtests. The desperation people have to play a buggy broken version is insane. The truth is for almost all of these games you should wait until its been out for 1.5 years and is actually patched, polished and finished and you can get it on sale for at least a few dollars off.Fuck, thousands of people paid 90 dollars to play space marine 2 like 2 or 3 days early.
>>97869791I don’t know, I think its just cool to see the behind the scenes inner workings of the game, and help fix problems in the least stressful way possible.
>>97869676>They look totally fine when used sparinglyHow do you use metallics "sparingly" on, say, Necrons?
>>97869791being poor and complaining about how people spend their money is an even more pathetic gimmick thoughbeit>inb4 I'm a crypto bank investor rocket surgeon top gun pilot who makes 20mil every minute
>>97869814>>97869816You are right, its not a rational thought to be so disparaging. It just feels like its particularly strong in 40k, probably just because we are so autistic and new information morsels for our special interests are irresistible to some.
>>97869820Tru
>>97869791DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT LT FRUMBO IS GOING TO BE IN WARHAMMER 40,000: CHAOS BUTTS AHHHHH THATS SUCH A DEEP CUT OMG AND THE FARTSTAR CHAPTER IS GONNA BE IN IT IM GONNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CANT WAIT FOR THIS GAME I ALREADY PREORDERED THE ULTRA DELUX SOOPER EDITION FOR THE GRIMDERP SKIN FOR CAPT THADDIUS WANKBOLT AND 3 EXTRA FREE FREE FREE CHESTS OF ATONEMENT AND A UNIQUE PROFILE ICON IN MULTIPLAYER MATCHES
>>97869843SM2 is literally marinefag gacha game
>>97869894What exactly do you think gacha means?
My holy grail has arrived
Someone made a new thread.>>97869769>>97869769>>97869769A troll thread a most.Buckle up for higher grade autism.
>>97867766>>97867818
>>97869186>have a character named El'M*yamoto*(Darkstrider) GW could not have made it more obvious besides the WD interviews that say they directly based the Tau on Japan
