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>Previous Thread:
>>97873655

>Thread Question:
How do you feel about the broader 40k online communities and specific ones?
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>>97876472
>TQ
You're all gay and I hate you
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>>97876445
>>97876470
>Arr rook same
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making rapid progress on my dark angels army lads. got 2 boxes of inner circle companions done + one box of deathwing knights. im aiming to do at least one more box of deathwing knights before today is finished......

What hobby projects are (You) doing this weekend 40kg?
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I like orks :D
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The Galaxy's largest-known group of Mon-keighs have split into two factions that are now engaged in deadly combat
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>>97876168
I'm painting mine as Alpha Legion since it's by far my favorite colour scheme as well. Just getting started on actually painting but I've played a good amount of TTS games where I was also doing Alpha Legion.
Honestly I'm sorta giving up on keeping the Alpha Legion flavor in actual gameplay. The Alpha Legion detachment stinks and there aren't really any units that are meaningfully 'Alpha Legion flavored'. The new Red Corsair Raiders fit the bill in a way, but the kit itself is horrible in terms of fitting in with an Alpha Legion aesthetic. I'll probably try kitbash something to proxy as them sooner or later but even then it's not like they'll take up more than 1/10 of the army.
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>>97876472
>TQ
The older I get the more I kinda just ignore communities online. They simply don’t exist for the benefit of me.
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I bought a £15 plastic bread storage thing with a magnetic door instead of an £80 display case
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>>97876481
That mk4 looks like shit.
Pic related is the actually good one.
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>>97876505
BORING, today is SNOOT DAY
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Painted a Warpjak on my collage knight
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>>97876505
mark 4 fucking sucks in general, but its still cool how the face is jutted out which implies there’s a bunch of underlying technology under the mask which gives it a cool sci-fi twist.
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This is how I mk4
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>>97876523
The face mask took the angular shape from the MkIII to deflect hits.
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>>97876472
>tq
Bolter & Chainsword is alright.
Youtube is 50/50.
Reddit is reddit. One time I looked up a SM heraldry question on there and there were toxic positivity types going "it's all made up, just do it how you want and have fun. ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET?"
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>>97876508
That thing is boring and looks like shit.
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Catachan should genocide exodites and steal their dinosaurs and breed them into submission
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I remember seeing marine anons making fun of guard players that didn't like the new Steel Legion or saying just go with the DKOK essentially saying the differences are negligible as they're both gas mask factions.
Now here they are arguing about different marine designs when they're all big armoured dudes with backpacks.

There's no defending this kind of hypocrisy.
But I'd love to see your excuses anyways.
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Done with 5/15 chosen. Will drill barrels tomorrow, what are you anons working on?
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>>97876558
Forgot pic...
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>>97876546
You're the type who gets frowns if the DW pauldron on a marine who returned from the DW, is on the perceived "wrong" shoulder, aren't you?
Btw there's no right or wrong shoulder for it, there is no set precedent in fluff and marines do whatever they want, some even ditch the thing entirely and wear a trinket
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>>97876555
Everything after mk2 looks the same to me and is just gargbled dogshit. Although I should note that mk3 is the worst fucking thing to happen to space marines, Nu or otherwise.
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>>97876555
Trips of truth. I'm with the rivet counters, armor mark and gasmask type both matter.
>>97876563
See? Very cool anon. Much better than if it was just black legion painted silver.
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>>97876566
>you want your heraldry to be lore-accurate
>that means you would be upset if the heraldry was inconsistent in a lore accurate way!
Enjoy your strawman, now take your meds.
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>>97876555
Mk10 is just a conglomeration of multiple armor patterns into 1.
Many people just get autistically mad when you accurately point out that mk10 helmet is just a very minor mk4 variant. Funniest part is that it's not even the most outlandish one out there. Pic related is labeled and considered a mk4 helmet too in fluff.
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Let Chaos idols take this thread!
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>>97876581
Thank you for proving me right.
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>97876591
Literally how?
>imagine following the lore, lolol
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>>97876517
Hands-down the best knight painting I've seen in this general.
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>>97876611
I can think of a regular who does them better.
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>>97876583
My shit is a conglomeration of all the food I've eaten, but that does not make it less of a shit.
>Pic related is labeled and considered a mk4 helmet too in fluff.
No, that's labeled and considered an Achean pattern helmet. Sure, the Achean pattern armour is based on the MkIV, the same way Gorgon terminator armour is based on Indomitus, but it's still considered its own thing. Like how MkII and III as well as MkVI and VII are considered different patterns despite being pretty much variants of each other.
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>>97876599
>not replying directly
This already tells me I got under your skin and you're mad. And that I hit the nail on the head on the first post.
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>>97876621
Nope.
Achean helmets are just a mk4 helmet variant.
The mk10 helmet is fine and it is just a mk4 variant.
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Most of the bathroom breaks I take during games are just to fart. I fart so much it's ridiculous. If I have to hold in farts for 3 hours I feel like I'm gonna die.
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>>97876660
You might want to adjust your diet and consider seeing a doctor if it's excessive.
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>>97876660
See a doctor
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I primed over 90 models today over about 4 hours and now my head fucking hurts.
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>>97876503
huh wat u mean?
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>>97876472
>>97876497
too many normalfags and abnormalfags now. Not enough TRVE AMIGXS.
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>>97876676
When you sneeze it's probably going to be black.
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>>97876673
>>97876675
I think it's because of all the beans I eat and the diet soda I drink
>>97876677
Read my post again, idk how to explain it to you in a simpler way
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>>97876497
I'm of the same mind, but I think 4chan is way more suitable than other forums in general.
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>>97876503
post it
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>>97876494
>The Alpha Legion detachment stinks and there aren't really any units that are meaningfully 'Alpha Legion flavored'.
traitor guard sort of, since they are known for infiltrating PDFs in order to subvert planetary defenses.
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>>97876652
0/10.
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>>97876549
similar to kislev and bears, a guard regiment that has a whole lineup of dino riders is gay and overbearing and too distinct from everything else.
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>>97876555
Primaris are king
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>>97876677
>>97876683
nvm I thought you were talking about the fart post sorry, it's a plastic storage thing for bread, like the ones they have in bakeries
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>>97876685
I haven't built it yet but it's this
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>>97876529
He looks like he has bigger than than other Mark IV cyborgs.
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>>97876555
>I remember seeing marine anons
>marine anons
Were they?
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How many leman russes (the tank) are too many at 1k
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>>97876692
What if we add other Slavic cultures?
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My collage miniature has been ordered. I think I have enough stuff in my bitz boxes and spare sprues to properly customize a Crucible character. I am excited.
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>>97876715
Hands are fine, Mk4 has extra vanbraces
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>>97876727
slavs have no culture
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>>97876676
You're supposed to wear a respirator you dumbdumbdumb
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>>97876740
>going bowling with your cousin isn't a culture
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There any chapters with dreadnought masters? Or major figures like chief librarian/chaplain in dreads?
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>>97876611
Not too high a bar is it
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>>97876692
Nah, dinosaurs can be varied, and Kislev is just incredibly fuckin boring as a foundation anyways.
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>>97876494
Funny, it's the new Corsairs that made me want to play Alpha Legion, I think the kit fits them perfectly, less chaos and all.
Your minis look great, I love the strong primary colours.
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>>97876762
Carab Culln of the Red Scorpions, though technically Casan Sabius and Sirae Karagon are the actual leaders of the chapter.
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>>97876489
Me too, they're funny.
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>>97876563
Cool guys
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>>97876720
anything over 1
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>>97876762
none with dreadnoughts as their chapter master, but there are some that have had dreadnought chaplains like bachorath of the black templars, he's dead now though
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>>97876720
you've hit too many when you go over the points limit
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>>97876747
I did, but wearing a respirator for so long takes its toll on you.
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>>97876720
you should be thinking "is this friendly? is this polite?" instead of "how many of these things can I get away with?"
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Streltsy has won.
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>>97876784
Honestly, you're actually right.
I hadn't looked up the full sprues so I'd kinda just assumed based on the images that I'd seen so far, but there are more than enough helmets and exactly enough shoulders without modeled on Red Corsair shit to make them look good as Alpha Legion, will probably pick some up.
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>>97876789
That scroll that just says WAR goes so fucking hard.
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>>97876789
>dual assault cannons
>built in heavy bolter inside close combat weapon
I wish levis had more weapon options
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>>97876549
catachans are better with dirt bikes and hoverboards than dinos

a dino would fit for a one-off character or some other regiment
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>>97876849
Leave the dinos to the aussie regiment
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Starcraft killed 40k yet?
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>>97876837
Based Alphariusanon. Hope they turn out well for you. I just wish there were 10 to a box, not 5.
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>>97876883
I hope.
>Starcraft
>Trench Crusade
>other smaller wargames
Slowly getting there
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>>97876883
The other franchise has.
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>>97876829
Eh, I feel like normal Kislevite warriors with crossbows outperform Streftsi handgunners. Now, if you can get one to become a Hero, then the bonus can do something.
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Can two units charge each other at the same time?
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>>97876885
The box is such a fucking scam for it's price, I'm gonna be keeping an eye on facebook/ebay because I'm not paying $65 for 5 jazzed up Legionaries.
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>>97876549
catachans are space vietnam, so they should be rocking bikes and jeeps.
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>>97876933
The model are hgly too.
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>>97876829
Cyborg zombies when?
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>>97876927
No, charges have to end within engagement range of an enemy unit, you can't leave a unit mid-charge during your opponent's turn
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>>97876933
I was holding out hope they'll give them away as a mini of the month, but 11ed is drawing close.
I am NOT buying the shitty combat patrol full of beastmen.
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Can I get a QRD on Voidscarred? All I remember hearing from it on here was a Corsair allowed this Craftworld to be destroyed for some gay love shit?
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>>97876951
Should there be sawn off or short barreled lasguns?
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>>97876951
With that in mind they shouldn’t be running leman russes either.
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>>97876965
Black Ops 3 has won...
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>>97876969
>mfw can't recreate the iconic DoW intro melee brawl
Why live
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>>97876885
What does the Alpha Legion even do in 40k as it's less about causing Chaos and more secret spy shit. Only thing I remember is they all look the same and flip flop through being Imperium and Chaos but they had Mike Brooks make a book for then where the MC is instead black with long dreads instead of white and bald.
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I got Eldar from the Combat Patrol Magazine thingie
Dubs decides my craftworld.
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>>97876927
Currently, no. TOW has a rule for a counter charge where both sides get to count as having charged; maybe 11th will add such a stratagem.
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>>97876973
Custom stubbers or hotshot lasguns/hellguns would go hard. Catachan Devils should be the kasrkin equivalent.

>>97876979
There were tanks in nam
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>>97876979
I accept your terms with the condition that they receive a space huey as a transport option.
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>>97877020
Will 40k get rules for wheeling too?
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>>97877014
The Alpha Legion don't do anything at all.
Don't worry about it. Put them out of your mind. Until it's too late.
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>>97877019
Biel Tann
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>>97877025
Considering it had to give the -2" penalty to vehicle maneuvers, it just might make you fully track how your vehicles wheel and turn.
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>>97876549
Who wins the cage match: Gargantuan Squiggoth, Wraithasaurus Rex, or Catachan Devilnonychus with Volcano Cannon?
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>>97877019
Iyanden is the best because of their cool focus on Wraiths due to being obliterated by Hive Fleet Kraken.
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>>97877033
I just chose them because I like yellow and blue
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>>97876979
There were tanks in Vietnam.
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>>97877033
That was a fast winner lol.
Guess I'm learning how to paint yellow now.
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>>97877020
How about both units charge towards each other and you calculate the distance where they meet by multiplying the initial distance between them by the Move difference?
For instance if unit A & unit B are separated by 10 inches and unit A has a move characteristic of 8, while unit B has a characteristic of 4, they'd meet at a point where A has traveled 6.67 inches and B 3.33.

It's very simple if you use this equation:
distance traveled by A = Mv A / Mv A + Mv B × initial distance.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>97877056
Definitely reccomend using some yellow contrast paint. The pink undercoat is good too.

https://youtu.be/3k6n6PH_ytw?si=CsWKvyrJIQAkO3IA
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>>97876775
it's not about being boring, it's about being too painfuly donut steel. It's the same reason people didn't like all the space wolf models with the riding wolfs or wolf chariots and shit. Give salamanders a bunch of salamanders to ride on and it looks dumb. Guard aren't a dino rider army and catachan might have one guy named Bad Ass Bergman who rides a dino but give them all dinos and it becomes retarded and ruins the regiment.
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>>97876973
They got carbines.
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>>97877071
Feel this!
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>>97877014
We don't acknowledge Mike Brooks fanfiction here.
If you really wanna steelman it, you can justify his existence with the idea that the legion replenished it's numbers using stolen geneseed like a lot of other Chaos warbands.
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>>97877084
>Give salamanders a bunch of salamanders to ride on and it looks dumb.
What if we gave them humans that are actually salamanders? That way they're technically riding other men.
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>>97877071
i hate this elf
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>>97877097
that piece of lore made the space wolves somehow worse
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>>97877122
*wet leopard growl*
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>>97876692
Xenos mounts are a thing. You thought horses were the only ridden animals in the setting?
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>>97877084
You don’t understand the spirit of warhammer. It’s about mixing cool shit together and having it stick. Donut steal energy is the motif of 40k. Also wolf riders are dumb because it’s marines riding them, and that it’s wolf fenrir riding on them so you’re delving into flanderized hell, which yes it’s bad. However catachan wouldn’t stand out in a negative manner if it’s just isolated between a hero and 2-3 units similar to how krieg got something outlandish like the death riders.
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>>97877084
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>>97877155
B-But muh grounded foot soldier with a spear or musket!!!
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>>97876883
starcraft tabletop is already dead
>>97876904
trench crusade is even deader
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They had a set of iron warriors dice at the lgs today. Thought they looked neat, but I dont really have iron warriors in any capacity, so it felt wrong to buy a set.
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>>97877154
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How strong are the Leagues of Votann? They're tiny compared to the Imperium, but like are they comparable in overall power to the Tau Empire?
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>>97877084
>>97876692
Tell me what is cool to you so I can know what kind of retard I'm dealing with here.
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>>97877056
At least eldar is a good enough faction to paint yellow on. Quite airbrush-friendly.
>>97877181
Not either of those anons but I like:
>dinosaurs
>spaceships
>construction vehicles
>ancient Egypt
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>>97877155
Space wolves are gay lizard riders are gay you are gay.
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>>97877180
They're supposed to be bigger than the Tau but they're disorganized. They have many groups rather than a single governing body.
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>>97877155
>However catachan wouldn’t stand out in a negative manner if it’s just isolated between a hero and 2-3 units similar to how krieg got something outlandish like the death riders.
Also this is quite literally what I said. I have no idea why so many arguments on 4chan are two people basically agreeing with each other and still somehow at odds.

>>97877181
Your mom sucking my cock.
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>>97877192
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>>97877191
>exodites/slanni
>flyer-heavy space marines
>genestealer cults
>necrons/thousand sons
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>>97877197
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>>97877201
>Your mom sucking my cock.
My mom is a dog and dead, you sick fuck

>>97877213
MUAD'DIB
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>>97877208
>mfw they're the only armor in the game with wings like this
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>>97877014
to be fair the negro would work if it turned out that wasn't his original face and he was trying to infiltrate another space marine chapter.
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>>97877180
More in number than Tau or Eldar but less than orks and humans.
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didn't buy this 2 years ago around this time because EC updates were "in a month or two" and it was 35 bucks which was too much to me at the time. Now it's really too much for a single fucking model.
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>>97877201
>you said no, nothing beyond a hero maybe
>I said, it’s fine as long as it isn’t dominating the range
I don’t think we said the same things anon.
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What is the Cuckquean Army of 40k?
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>>97877252
>canker
Typo or not? I know what a canker is but it's a weird saying
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>>97877251
>35 bucks which was too much to me
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>>97877259
Pedantry is the imperium's greatest weapon after all.
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>>97877262
In what way?
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>>97877262
What army does Eren play?
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>>97877019
Altansar
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>>97877262
definitely the Eldar
Or sisters of silence
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>>97877276
Titans
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>>97877272
it's a single fucking model, all the standalone models are too much. Fucking 50 dollars for a "lord of fighty guys" warlord, that's retarded.
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>>97877262
SoB, obviously. They are devoted to a God Emperor who would absolutely tell them that religion is cringe and girls are yucky, if he could.
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>>97877272
35 bucks for a single plastic model is a lot. I can spend 50 for 10 models with extra bits. The character tax is disgusting
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>>97877251
I have a NIB Sister Tariana Palos sitting around that is $200 on eBay. I'm too lazy to make a listing and sell it, though.
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>>97877084
Dumbass.
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Raptors or Ultramarines, anons? This will dictate how I model my dudes.
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Dinosaurs are cool yeah but Catachan 100% deserve motorcycles.
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>>97877341
Unless you have a great idea on how to do raptors differently or really damn well, I'd say try ultramarines. UMs don't have to be the blue & gold generic smurfs we often see, there are a lot of ways to make UMs unique, especially through playing with auxiliary colors.
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>>97877341
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but ultramarines are the better choice.
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>>97877365
I was thinking of doing the 3rd company, actually. I like the red trim.
>>97877368
I like them both, but I have to admit I like the hammy space roman aesthetic a little more than MACV-SOG marines.
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>>97877251
$10 for a recast
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>>97877394
Red goes well on Ultras, I like the green & a yellow 2nd cie instead of gold
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>>97877251
Oh neat, I've got an 2016 imperial space marine, I wonder how much that's worth to some retarded collector?
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Why in the hell is the Farseer and Solitaire online only?
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So I'm confused about this leader shit
So he just effectively has the save and invuln of his squad until it's wiped? How do we allocate saves when there's 8000 wounds going out?
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>>97877431
What's the problem with that, just order them in store?
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>>97877436
slow roll them
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>>97877444
damn this looks sick... who made this european or japanese players?
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>>97877444
Isn't that Planetary Empires? If so it's out of date, there was a kickstarter for something similar recently but it's over and done with. If not, those look somewhat custom. Man I wish I bought those tiles back in the day.
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>>97877436
Roll the number of wounds that would be required to kill the unit before it reaches the leader, keep repeating until the unit is dead or their are no wounds left to roll.
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>>97877461
moldy orange
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>>97877454
Some guy on /hhg/ apparently.
>>97877458
Not planetary empires. PE & ME have a singular hole in the tile to fit flags/buildings as well as thick borders to the tiles with the teeth visible. Have some fun PE.
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>>97877422
That green is pretty nice, actually.
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>>97877422
guthix trim armour
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>>97877490
If you like red on Ultras here's a fun lil guy

>>97877497
Nice
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>>97877444
No idea but if you find out make sure to come back here and tell me.
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>>97876789
Fuck I love this model
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>>97876845
If you're 80 IQ
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>>97876885
That art looks like a smiley Ork Necron when it's zoomed out.
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>>97877567
*180, my hand slipped
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>>97877572
i can see it. he's delightful.
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according to a random guy on Japanese twitter the new knight kit is all ball/socket joints and can be modded with gunpla polycaps for full movement & will actually hold poses
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>>97877581
proof or shameful and dishonorable
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>>97877581
Did he say why it costs as much as a Castallen?
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QRD
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>>97877567
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>>97877590
supposedly he's saying this just based off the instructions (arm/shoulder example here) that it would be "far easier" to convert than what he did previously on a Questoris
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painted a bloodthrister who hates space wolves
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The only difference here from questoris is the ball joint for the shoulder which doesn't make too big of a difference.
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>>97877634
This is inspirational! Beautiful and excellent work, Anon!
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>>97877616
Racism
Mostly dead
Tragic
Aspect Warriors +++
SPEeEeeEEEeeeeeEEEd
Zombies/cult of dead
Clowns
Were stuck in the warp for a while
(???)
Matriarchal craftworld
LODSAEMONE
Not much
Ghost ship iirc
No clue
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>>97877655
Thanks, I was inspired by hatred for space wolves.
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>>97877634
You've been going hard with the freehand, m8. Great shit. I keep meaning to practice mine to eventually paint pic related on a chaos knight at some point but I'm too much of a pussy to practice.
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>>97876847
>Dual Heavy Flamer Tits
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>>97877567
THERE
IS
ONLY
W A R
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What's the best melee army? Orks, World Eaters, Space Wolves, Blood Angels?
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>>97877672
DEldar
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My wife didn't find tyranids cute at all. You guys lied to me.
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>>97876789
Leviathans are so sex. Also the purity seal with a heart is dare I say cute
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>>97877672
>World Eaters
thats a shooting army actually
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>>97877672
world eaters have the best melee, but the win rate of all of these armies changes from balance patch to balance patch
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>>97877661
What a coincidence, I'm prepping my Crucible and Hatred for the Space Wolves mini as we speak. You also inspired me to paint my knights. God save my soul.
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>>97877014
Alpharius got killed and now Omegon runs the entire thing from the shadows. Most of what they do has some ulterior motive, but their plans are so convoluted that they don't know where the chapter begins and ends.
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>>97877681
what women find cute is randomly generated in their heads at the point of exposure
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>>97877567
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>>97877672
Ultramarines
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>>97877665
I hate that the Assault Cannon tits are locked to HH.
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>>97877672
Orks is best.

Orks are fun because you just swarm a guy in buckets of attacks. They can kill shit it feels like they have no business killing as well, which is hilarious when it happens.
WE is great for just having absolute blenders of guys. Blood angels go fast and spam chainswords basically. Swolves are weird because they're kinda just reskinned marines more than a melee focused army.
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>>97877262
GSC, very obviously.
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I never see anyone asking for Crusaders back as a unit.
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>>97877770
because they were extremely niche and obscure
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>>97877770
they're cool but nobody ever really had attachment to the unit the way other stuff has.
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Tho
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my base with dead space wolves heads is coming together great.
i'll share a wip before i prime it
this has been a lot of fun, and i've been learning a lot
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>>97877770
I'd love them, I want more non-sister stuff in sisters so it's more like an army of the assorted faithful than just sisters. Crusaders+frateris militia + shitty little technical truck transport for frateris would make sisters the most kino army in the game.
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>>97877773
>Knightly dudes that have Noble Houses and go on Crusades
Their niche is largely filled by Knights except for the Religious Zealot aspect of it, though you can make a Imperial Faith Knight House of course.
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>>97877770
Somebody asked that last week.

Why did some of the BSF characters get standalone releases when others did not?
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>>97877802
Weren't a bunch of them released as generic HQs/characters? I don't recall Crusaders having a HQ option.
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>>97877801
I think with some tweaking they're a very different idea, knight houses are military institutions of great tradtion, typically removed from other imperial nobility on their own worlds. Crusaders are bored 14th sons of hive nobles who are too rich and impetuous to become guard officers, but too hot blooded to ignore the call of WAR.
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>>97877813
Most of them got a standalone release. The ambull & the zoat are finally getting one.
The robot, rogue trader, crusader, ratlings and the kroot I believe did not get standalone releases.
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>>97877444
I love the strike cruiser and all imperial ship design in general
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>>97877801
>the niche of sword and board power armor guys is filled by giant robots because they're both nobles
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>>97877793
>I want more non-sister stuff in sisters
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>>97877868
Yeah, the fluff niche is similar.
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>>97877885
Black Templars have a similar niche woops gotta get rid of Knights now
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>>97877092
geneseed doesnt remodel your face and skintone.
Geneseed was never why his legion all looked the same.
Its literally up to the warband if they want to do the surgery. Many stopped. Hence most alpha legion no longer look like alpharius.
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>>97877932
that's a weird way to say marines
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I need 15 Deathwatch upgrade sprues and I am poor. It's jover.
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Why are SM the most dad army?
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>>97878055
because dads were playing them in the 80s
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>>97877708
I fucking hate that I can pick out that OC
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>>97878114
What, you don’t like the Blacked Lion?
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I love when a CSM player uses plague marines to convert normal legionaries or chosen because it results in a bunch of badass-looking veterans and then one or two fat fucks standing on the side
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>>97877770
who would want them back as a unit? they were an obvious fake unit in IG
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>>97878114
I keep toying with the idea of making a dead version of him as base decoration for a daemon prince or something but I can't justify the cost of sourcing all the bitz for a shitpost.
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>>97877444
Those were all custom 3d prints, the ships were ripped right from the bfg:a files
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>binge 40K writers commentary and interviews
>Find out that Andy Chambers and Dan Abnett's favorite character is Abaddon the Despoiler
I don't get it. What's his appeal? I imagined that Dan would have had Horus as his favorite or Loken.
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>>97878196
You don't get it and never will. You over dosed on Abaddon memes and think you're in the know.
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>>97878193
Nice. Any chance you can hook a brother up with the STLs?
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i painted a negro
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>Tekarn Iron Fist Regiment
I'm pretty sure these dudes are a reference to the Shogun book, where Toda Hiromatsu has the nickname old Iron Fist.
The nickname itself might be a reference to an old Japanese military phrase gaishuu Isshoku, an occasionally ironic line meant to indicate you would defeat someone in a single blow, but that's getting way off into the weeds.
>If the likes of Taira no Kiyomori's comrades were to even slightly brush against the sleeves of my armour, they would all drop dead on their own accord.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%8E%A7%E8%A2%96%E4%B8%80%E8%A7%A6
It's also frequently translated as "one touch of the armored gauntlet"
Guardtism
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>>97878230
Welcome to the Space Wolves, peep!
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>>97878230
Vlka Fenryka!
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>>97876517
very neat
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>>97877878
>50/50 split of sob to non-sob units
>complete removal of females from all positions of power and religious authority within the Ecclesiarchy
>no lesbian or troon sob's
>sob's all have black hair
>repentia are naked and have female bodies
>nundams gone, that one bitch gone
Anything else?
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>>97876549
yes, I would like to harness the power
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guard writers then >>97878232
guard writers now >give me 20 good men and women
>(black) (gay) womyn everywhere
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De Natura Belli are the writings of Leman Russ (the Marcus Aurelius of the Imperium) on war.
>Leman Russ
>the Marcus Aurelius of the Imperium
wtf did GW mean by this?
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>>97878270
>Oh ay wumba wumba, Fenryka! Remember, Fenryka is for many things, but do not have gay sex here!
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>>97877770
I had a bit of an interest in crusaders mostly because I liked the possibility of them being a blob of melee units that would contrast with the bullgryns being small squads of stronger melee units.

Then the Crusaders got moved to the Sororitas and I slowly lost interest. Mostly because homebrew stuff seem to be ignored because my LGS seems more like a tourny zone.
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>>97878299
There were women on that same page anon.
Though again the name of the bottom left Regiment just seems to be a pop culture reference to Xena: Warrior Princess.
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>>97878338
very nice, who’s the slayer standing on top of them?
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>>97878221
They were custom made by other people, so no, sorry
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>>97878339
tfw no Dneipr tank crew gf
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>>97878339
Zamn broski, can I get a dude with sharp eyes to point out the differences between these two images?
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>>97878345
objective marker :^), so /your dudes/
i have one more marker to make, then hopefully i'll have time to make a diorama so that it can be once again /your dudes/ heading the massacre
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Xeno fans need their opinions validated
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>>97878356
That's probably a specific reference as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariya_Oktyabrskaya

>She received and was trained to drive and fix a T-34 medium tank, which she named "Fighting Girlfriend" ("Бoeвaя пoдpyгa").
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>>97878368
One looks like the daughter of a Creed and one looks like jerk off material for losers?
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>>97878370
I think only orks have everyone of their subfactions still being valid
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>>97878370
exodites when?
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>>97878370
Xenos have gotten some shitty models and lore changes but they rarely sit around and cry over it
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>>97878395
Does anyone here still bother to mention the mineral wraith bone for instance?
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>>97876472
>every generalized culture in every marine legion
>are sons of a white english man
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>>97878338
why all the empty helmets?
they never wear them
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>>97878416
on toxic enough planets they'll have too
don't worry, there'll be gore and more to the scene
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>>97878416
>orks defeat space wolf company
>they raid their supply stores and find mountains and mountains of helmets
>strange how they didn’t put them on before battle because they were choking on exhaust fumes, getting their faces torn by shrapnel, and getting dinged on the head by stray gunfire without them.
>oh well
>whatever they don’t tie to their vehicles and put on their spikes for decoration they throw into piles because they don’t fit the orky heads.
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>>97878395
it’s a reasonable crashout at this point, but dark eldar fans have been bemoaning the state of their model range for a long time now. we even got a guy here who posts everyday wishing for a dark eldar refresh.
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>anon says "here's a bunch of dead Spaces Wolves"
>>it's empty armour
What drives this behaviour?
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>>97878193
Holy shit this is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
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>>97878459
I count at least 3 decapitated heads, and it looks like a few of the helmets are outright torn open which implies they were attacked.
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>>97878459
they got jango fetted.
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>>97878469
i couldn't help myself giving one a bullet in the back of the head, but they're all heads removed from bodies.
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>>97877793
People are going to be mad, but yea Frateris Militia is just a hole in the sisters army. At least we got Sanctifiers which is basically Frateris elite squad. But we don't really have the ability to evoke the
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>>97878455
Dark Eldar get a pass because they're faction has been fucked sideways by GW for like 30 years. But I'm tired of hearing Craftworld Eldar, Necron, Tyranids, Tau, and Orks players complain when all of them have been treated very well in the last few years. Even Votann has just gotten a lot of attention despite their Rocky launch. It is basically just DE and GSC among the Xenos that are actually neglected and treating the whole super faction like GW's whipping boys is hardly a fair comparison. I mean, have you looked at the state of most of the Chaos codexes recently?
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>>97878494
anon had a stroke typing this but still solved the captcha
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>>97878379
Yeah, there's no way a woman could find the woman on the left cool or interesting, that'd be crrazy.
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>>97878401
We'll wait and see if it's in the 11th codex. They may just memory-hole it completely.
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>>97878196
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>>97878499
>Rocky
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>>97878499
Slight issue but these launch boxes have been banking in nostalgia and I fear the dark eldar updates have been pushed back to 12th edition to mirror the 3rd edition dark eldar versus black Templar box
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>>97878547
Oh fuck this might be true
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>>97878547
I find it less likely Black Templar will be in a starter box again than Dark Eldar
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>>97878547
Would they really make a glass cannon army like Deldar a starter army, though?
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>>97878547
They already made the new land speeder for this edition. If they wanted to reference the 3e box they already fucked themselves out of that option.
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>>97878570
>>97878565
You negros said ultramarines not being painted would be impossible and see what happened but it’s technically true 11th mirrors 2nd ed so 12th being predicted to mirror 3rd is not out of the question
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>>97878575
People would scream primaris soulless slop if they dropped 20 intercessors and a landspeeder lol on a codex divergence chapter
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>>97877878
>I want more non-sister stuff in sisters
I want the Crusaders back in the guard, please.
I want big melee swarms.
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>>97876472
>TQ

The online 40K community is easily the worst part of engaging with the hobby at all, lots of genuinely embarrassing faggot larpers or mtg redditors who want to make 40K a tabletop sport
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>>97878570
They'll just rewrite them to be less of a glass canon for the starter set. Or at least give them some big bulky anvil units like new Grotesques or a new Pain Engine as their terminator or dreadnought equivalent. Not to mention transports.
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>>97878576
>You negros said ultramarines not being painted would be impossible
wut?
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>>97878379
The daughter of creed didn't have to look ugly.
Women should be allowed to be attractive in fictional media.
Especially in 40k when it comes to the SOB, guard, etc.
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>>97878576
>11th = II = 2nd
The nostalgia bait is partially a joke, patternfagging and saying GW will do it again might not be true.
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The white scars are overrated and the fact the main Asian chapter was wasted on mongols is dumb

What do they even do?
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>>97878615
m8 no one ever talks about the white scars, they definitely aren't overrated just because they're in the op image
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>>97878615
>wasted on the Asians that had largest contiguous empire in history
Funny
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>>97878615
>the main Asian chapter was wasted on mongols
>wasted
>When its a historical reference to the largest in a single continous landmass and bloodiest empire the world had ever seen at the time.
The golden hordes city slaughtering style of warfare is peak 40k
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>>97878615
Go fast and look sick as hell.
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behold: the darkest man on rynn's world
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>>97878615
They are as forgetable as IH. Even RG is more popular than them, which is pretty funny.
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Can I get a run-down on this book? Only thing I know from it is gay shit
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>In both steps of the Fight phase, players alternate selecting eligible units from their army, one at a time, starting with the player whose turn is not taking place
what the fuck
in a turn where everyone's stuck in and no one charged, why would the enemy fucking select their units first when it's MY fucking turn?
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>>97878663
You are 3 years late to complain about this. Things change in 11e anyway.
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>>97878649
Those a some pretty big stones to be throwing from raven guards glass house.
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>>97878649
>>97878679
Also ironic since most Raven guard books have them partnered with white scars
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>furry buttplug is an actual bit
Should my Space Wolf collage entry be grasping for his canonical buttplug with his dying breath, or should it be falling out of his grasp with his dying breath?
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Second squad of steeljacks done. Not a collage entry for this month as they're not crucible characters and while there is a dead marine's helmet on one base it's a CSM, and I really don't think we should be giving that fucking faggot any more attention than we already do, but I already said my piece on that during the voting phase so whatever. Either way I've got a full six man squad of shootyjacks now.
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>>97878338
This is so sad its pathetic
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What is the most yaoi faction? Not buff bara guys, specifically prettyboys in doomed romances.
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>>97878700
Blood Angels canonically has the most prettyboys.
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>>97878698
in your opinion, what would make it better?
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>>97878698
so sad to see so many space wolves jobbing to (insert any faction here).
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>>97878700
Any flavor of Eldar, since they are the only ones with pretty boys.
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>>97877928
>Sons of Horus start looking like Horus
>Blood Angels start looking like Sanguinius
>Raven Guard start looking like Corax
>Salamanders start looking like Vulkan
Geneseed has always been like that. GW just said "this can't stop me because I can't read" when making black Ultramarines and nobody said anything because it's the Ultramarines, now we have Alpha Legion who don't have their single written trait, because it's fucking Mike Brooks.
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>>97878698
hellblaster status?
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>>97878683
I’d say having it fall out of grasp might be hard to communicate through a still miniature, but if you’ve got any idea for the both of them, they sound like really great options. you could always go by odds or evens if you’re unsure.
>odds
grasping for buttplug
>evens
dropping buttplug
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>>97878615
They get no attention to be overrated.
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Who's more melee-focused, Space Wolves or Blood Angels?
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>>97878728
>same terrain and board again
>ultramarines again
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>>97878703
more gunshot holes!
more scratches!
more tears in the armor!
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>>97878719
It's actually a matter of bit orientation. Been saving this hand for something special.
picrel is the theory
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>>97878728
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>>97878751
as you wish, anon
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>>97878743
dude must be infamous in his local area for his shenanigans to not be able to find anyone to play with outside this one ultramarine player (who might not even be real).
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Sternguard want regular bolters right? Combi-weapons look cool, but with Dev Wounds, Assault, and more shots it feels like I’d be actively gimping myself not bringing them.
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>>97878746
You are setting up your own models because you are banned everywhere
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>>97878773
normalfags not slapping you across the face for being an unlikable cunt does not mean you aren't an unlikable cunt
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look who just woke up. oh well, I’ve got to go to bed anyway.
good night everyone!
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Are squats votans or separate things? Necromunda got a squat gang a little before the big votan reveal, and gw has stuff planned out years in advance so it can't be a case of it releasing before the votans was in the pipeline
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>>97878773
>player
>with normal interactions
>only a few people here hate you
grok is tell me you are fibbing
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>>97878783
Wiki ah question.
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>>97878783
I think the explanation is that necromunda squats are like some estranged sub-group of Votann. There was nothing stopping GW from making a whole army that looked like picrel, but we got what we got.
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>>97878788
>I live in a place where people tell you how they feel
There are exactly 0 places on earth like this. Only extremely autistic people are unaffected by social decorum.
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>>97878812
>Only extremely autistic people
It's like he's at an LGS...
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>>97878785
you know I actually tried this and it's not looking good
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>>97878783
They are the natural-born descendant Kin (as opposed to the cloned & vatborn common ones) of a group that was sent to Necromunda in search of a lost Votann core.

Some people suspect that the House Van Saar STC is in fact the Votann core as they share a similar technological origin.
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>>97878842
looks like grok betrayed you
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>>97878842
how is sadism involved here?
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at what point in our society did people lose all sense of shame or dignity
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>>97878850
>ive barely been here.
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>>97878850
I was only describing the situation to grok. It isn't my fault that even an AI thinks you're a faggot from multiple perspectives.
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>>97878848
Looks pretty good for a toddler, they usually struggle to stay in the lines.
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>>97878854
>and abuse me
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reposting my monke and his friend from a few months ago. should I do a custom Grey Knight character standing over a dead space wolf?
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Why do people dislike Votann? I mean besides how their codex is half as long as it should be and their mechanics are wonky, like their lore seems fine to me.
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>>97878848
>at least once a day some literal toddler will post his shit and be really proud about it
If that really was painted by an actual toddler I'd be impressed.
There's something beautiful about really young kid creativity that is unchained and unrestrained and then a professional adapts it.

I think they'd come up with some really amazing colour schemes for 40k models.
Certainly for space marines.
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>>97878884
I feel like they were so afraid of making "Warhammer fantasy race, but in space" that they over-corrected. The result is a somewhat bland sci-fi army that might as well not be dwarves/squats at all. Again they could have looked like >>97878811
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>>97878884
I dislike them because they are just short weird space marines. Necromunda squats are way cooler to me and I've often thought about doing a whole army using only their models.

If they were just the Necromunda ones with some Nordic flare I'd have bought the army day one. Berehk Stornbröw, the Brôkhyr Iron-master, and Hernkyn Yaegirs are all pretty decent though.
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>>97878811
>>97878904
Has some STL making autist "remade" Votann lookalike proxies including vehicles in the style of Necromunda squats?
Or if so has he been sent to the Shadow Realm by GW's legal team?
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>>97878855
>>97878858
>>97878864
I look away for a few minutes and miss a post. What did the loser say? I was genuinely invested.
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>>97878884
IMO it's a mix of
>old good new bad groggery
>GW picking the absolute worst subfaction color scheme and head choices to show them off leaving a bad first impression
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Why is Death Guard so much more popular than the other Chaos marines?
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>>97878923
8th ed launch box silly. its also the most fleshed out (heh) of the legions in terms of model support.
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>>97878884
I am a massive fag for dwarves, especially WHF dwarfs. I think the lore is fine. There are minor nitpicks I have but overall, I think the hyper-efficient corpo dwarves that hate waste (unless it's a grudge) is a decent angle for 40k. I get why they toned down the grudge autism even though I personally love it. But the problem is almost entirely in the model designs
>grav faggotry at all
>vehicles look like Starcraft
>terminators look like Starcraft
>battleline looks like Starcraft
>ironjacks look like Starcraft
>not enough runes
>not enough fancy fucking gubbins on anything even though the codex EXPLICTLY states that they make their gear works of art
>beards are nonexistent except the psyker
>only 2 passable melee units
that's just off the top of my head
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>>97878914
stop talking about him you fucking retards
your attention drives the attention whore to seek attention
just shut the fuck up
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>>97878911
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>>97878884
If I want to play SM, I will buy SM. I don't care about short SM and sure as hell don't care for their lore.
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proper squats coming through
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I enjoy death guard because they are fun to paint and each model looks unique and there’s a lot of room to kitbash and enjoy the hobby.

I do however think Mortarion was a bitch in regards to why he disliked the emperor. I don’t really care about the lore that much but it’s lame to have a primarch who’s explicitly an emotional little pussy.
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>>97878934
Based fellow dwarf enjoyer. I started MESBG with dwarves and I recently bought some WHF dwarfs to start an army with. Not to be a negative Nancy but the Votann are not to my taste unfortunately, they aren’t dwarfy enough for me.
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>imperium lite
>more imperial armies
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>>97878884
Not everyone was going to accept Destiny into 40k.
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>>97878811
>imperium lite
Even the destinyshit is better
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>>97877987
>what is a recast
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>>97878923
>First place army is in every starter set
>Second place was in 9th edition starter set
>Third place was in 10th edition starter set
>Fourth place was in 8th edition starter set
>Fifth place are normal humans anyone can relate to
>Sixth place was in 6th edition starter set
>Seventh place was also in 6th edition starter set
I'm noticing a pattern here.

Notable that of all these factions Astra Militarum are the only one that "earned" it without being pushed, I guess they're just based.
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>>97878884
They're /v/tards who want to falsely associate some RTS franchise with everything astronaut or oldschool sci fi.
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>>97878975
But Starcraft literally invented spacesuits
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>>97878969
>abhuman tolerated by imperium
>sometimes fight with imperium
>uses imperium-like gear
NO WAY!?
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>>97878979
>>abhuman tolerated by imperium
>>sometimes fight with imperium
>>uses imperium-like gear
This is bad. No more Imperium.
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>>97878979
>imperium lite
You want a separate codex for every IG regiment too?
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>>97876814
Filter needs changing then.
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>>97878981
But the Leagues of Votann just ended up looking like discount Space Marines anyway, so I guess you didn't get your wish.
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>>97878979
That's boring as shit. Heck. it's also low tech a shit. They need to be more Van Saar if they are all DAoT.
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>>97878986
They look astronaut
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>>97878884
I’m a dwarf stan to start off with. I echo a lot of the other points. I really really don’t like Votann namely because
>the lore is not very dwarfy
>AI is cringe
>aesthetically sculpts range from bland to awful
>not enough runes
>their armour looks so uninspired an elf wouldn’t be caught dead wearing it
>lack of beards
I am really really really not a fan of the nasapunk aesthetic. I think they should have translated for traditional fantasy dwarfs but into sci fi/space. Instead it feels like they crammed dwarfs into a concept they already had developed for a new sci fi race.
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Your Votann sir
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>>97878987
Well, Van Saar are Imperium so maybe they should look like an IG regiment in tech level. Same as all Necromunda.
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>>97878923
Sisters would shoot into top 5 if Melta wasn't dogshit
Anti-tank is too fucking important.
Throw anything T10+ in front of them and laugh as meltas either miss or just dink because 5+ to wound before you factor in defensive stratagems.
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>>97878996
destiny sucks, senpai
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>>97878986
>>97878993
I actually think the combination they did for LoV was perfect and exactly what they needed to not just be "dwarves in space I guess" which was exactly what got them booted out of the setting in 2nd ed while Orks and Eldar found their place as more than just "space orcs" and "space elves".

The classic dwarf tropes of being miners, artisans, and engineers with more advanced tech than humans (usually they have guns and cannons and shit like ornithopters in Fantasy settings while humans are still using crossbows) flows naturally into being industrialist free capitalist strip miners with advanced space tech, and in 40k with the whole theme of being a decaying age where older is better, the advanced tech then flows naturally into classic dwarf tropes of ancestor worship, reimagined as AIs that run their society which flows into cyberpunk megacorp territory which flows back into the hyper capitalist territory that goes with being greedy industrious miners. The DAoT connection then lends itself to tying in perfectly with the Stone Men / Iron Men lore which suddenly makes even more sense even from just a NAMING perspective because Stone Men = Dwarves is just fucking, c'mon. And several of those themes flow to the NASApunk space explorer aesthetic that 40k has been missing. And anyone who gives me that newfag secondary shit of "b-but it doesn't FIT 40k" is a retard who doesn't understand 40k. The point of the setting is it makes everything fit in one setting so you can smash your giger alien toys into death metal album cover daemons and space knights and mad max orcs and gundams. It's the very essence of pulp sci-fi where conan the barbarian looking dudes that are mostly naked oiled muscles in fur loinclothes use plasma axes to cleave open lasergun-toting lizardmen on mars. Of fucking COURSE it needs a NASApunk faction.
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>mfw nobody cries how Eldar don't use photon bows or stereotypical elf weapons
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>>97877709
God damn, that glow...
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>>97878996
Tuat us an interesting Starcraft picture. Because Starcraft invented everything Sci fi and other franchises doing astronaut style are Starcraft.
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>>97879014
What if I Fallout? I'm still going through Sim Settlements 2.
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>>97878989
Where's the lie? They're just guys in armor with bolters, but shorter.
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>>97879017
That is a very interesting Starcraft picture.
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>>97879004
>NASApunk space explorer aesthetic that 40k has been missing
that's like saying Lord of the Rings was missing a 2008 honda civic
Some things just don't fucking belong
8/10 bait, I replied know it was bait
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>>97879020
Everywhere. Pauldrons don't look alike, the helmet's visor style, the proportions, the boots, etc.
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>>97879004
This but unironically.
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>>97879020
I understand your point that both are Starcraft.
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>>97876933
D6 Minis on Facebook. If you’re in the US, he sells CAD prices which with the FX rate, is a nice little discount and he’s usually got decent stock. I’ve used him for all of my purchases, saved a lot of money through him. Legit seller too, never had an issue and I’ve bought a good 3K points for myself and about 1.5K points for birthday/Christmas presents for my BIL.
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>>97879020
>>97879024
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>>97879024
NTA but if doing an abhuman Men of Stone thing, then aesthetically calling back to humanity's history would be appropriate. Or is that not Imperium lite so not okay?
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>>97879020
>guys in armor with bolter
Custodesfags...
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>>97879020
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>>97879004
>"dwarves in space I guess" which was exactly what got them booted out of the setting in 2nd ed
Squats today would do numbers. As we see objectively, LoV aren't popular. The NASApunk aesthetic is one of those tailored for the " modern audience " that never shows up. Reimagining the ancestor worship into AI is mad cringe. Just have them worship their ancestors in a religious sense. 40k never needed a NASApunk aesthetic, it's completely incongruous with the rest of the setting.
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>>97879020
Votann look like marines because both marine armor and weapons and squat weapons from the DAoT.
Even during the Great Crusade Imperium encountered some civilizations, mainly the Auretian Technocracy that used marine style power armor and weapons.

They look similiar because the origin of their equipment comes from the same place, DAoT. And compared to other Imperial factions? It's much more divergent. Just look at the dome helm.
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>>97879040
>As we see objectively, LoV aren't popular
They're Xenos and anons have charts saying they beat Tau and Eldar.
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>>97879040
>imperium lite picture
Trash for a whole army. Not even as divergent as >>97879020
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>>97879025
How is this radically different from the Astartes/Imperium? If Necromunda squats are "Imperium-lite" for using classic 40k aesthetics, Votann are "Imperium-lite" for using nu-40k aesthetics.
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>>97879040
No, they're too good of an idea. They take all the classic dwarf tropes and evolve them into a sci-fi setting in really cool ways.
Dwarves are known for their supreme craftsmanship. In a setting with genetic modification and AI, the break down the barrier between themselves and their craft. They make themselves with as much care as they make anything else, and their creations are as intelligent as they are.
Dwarf society is based on respect for ancestors and the old ways. So in the far future their society is run by a computer that is the agglomeration of all the knowledge of their ancestors.

But this is 40k. Everything needs a one sentence explanation of how badass they are. The Leagues as a concept are just too subtle and thoughtful.
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>>97879048
>How is this radically different from the Astartes/Imperium
When do muhreens get blades coming out their arms?
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>>97879047
Ideally they should look basically like this but with guns
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>>97879048
Nice Destiny design. Especially the gun. The barrel looks like a Destiny gun.
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>>97879048
>pauldrons not round
>heat blade
>overall style much more van saar
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>>97879054
Pushing dwarfs into pure materialism strips them of any/all soul they have in other settings. I doubt you could understand this, as your post screams " I am an atheist ".
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>>97879056
>erm the powersword is on his wrist instead of in his hand, so it's totally different!
Idk about that one, bud
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>>97879020
I know this is bait but that's not even a bolter and you'd figure the people who've been REE'ing about knee flanges for ten straight years would be able to figure that out.
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>>97879061
Yeah it's Van Saar but wider.
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>>97879057
>not even the skydorfs
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>>97879065
NTA but that's a key enough difference. If he had it on his dick nobody would say it's the same.
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I think Votann could be salvaged aesthetically (maybe) if you painted them with grimy metallics rather than these cringe bright colors. The lore needs to be thrown into the bin though
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>>97879062
>pure materialism
Literally mind records of ancestors in a setting where tech is practically magic and has warp signatures.
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>>97879062
>Pushing dwarfs into pure materialism
How do you interpret that?
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>>97879020
>>97879040
>>97879048
>>97879057
>>97879065
>>97879078
Your bait needs work but I give (You)s for effort.
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>>97879035
If they wanted them to be xenos, then they should have made them more alien and divergent from humanity. The clean space opera sci fi look doesn't exactly work when the audience already associates that stuff with human factions in basically every other sci fi franchise.
If they wanted them to be Imperium Lite, then removing the gothic aesthetic is counter-productive
The stupid fishbowl helmets and fucking dune buggy ass looking vehicles just aren't what people want in 40k. We already have marines being stripped of that,
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Eldar suck because they're not like this. Put a space alien instead of the eagle and call it an Eldar.
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>>97879066
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Autoch_Pattern_Bolter
Oh no, no, no...
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>>97879088
>The stupid fishbowl helmets and fucking dune buggy ass looking vehicles just aren't what people want in 40k
Someone get those army ownership charts from a few threads back. They sell better than many other factions.
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>>97879088
>If they wanted them to be xenos, then they should have made them more alien and divergent from humanity.
They're an abhuman strain.
>The clean space opera sci fi look doesn't exactly work when the audience already associates that stuff with human factions in basically every other sci fi franchise.
Except 40k. How do you even think they're clean? You paint the minis.
>If they wanted them to be Imperium Lite, then you're tasteless
Fixed
>The stupid fishbowl helmets and fucking dune buggy ass looking vehicles just aren't what people want in 40k. We already have marines being stripped of that
A past store owner anon said they sell well enough, it's just GW demands they push marines more and always have marines for display more than other factions.
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>>97878923
because they actually have models
>worlds eaters wave 2 never
>1ksons wave 2 never
>emperor's children never, just never ever
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>>97879090
NTA but that supports the other sides point about designs being different enough that he can't identify it as a bolter
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>>97879024
>that's like saying Lord of the Rings was missing a 2008 honda civic
No it isn't fucking remotely like that you disingenuous faggot. 40k is science-fantasy trope kitchen sink and NASApunk is a trope that belongs in that melange. It's nothing like the Honda in LOTR meme.
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>>97879081
They worship an AI, their " intelligent " creations are just materialist simulacra. Their whole society is structured around material simulacra.

>>97879089
This is an awful concept and model and part of the tons of trash they introduced in later editions. #notmyhighelves.
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>>97879090
>>97879097
No retards the votann in >>97879020 is holding an ion gun.
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>>97879097
I think it just supports the point that anon should double check the datasheet before confidently stating who needs to figure what out
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>>97879099
>40k is science-fantasy trope kitchen sink
that's just like
your opinion, man
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>>97879100
>their " intelligent " creations are just materialist simulacra. Their whole society is structured around material simulacra.
It's a setting where the AI are so powerful they generate psychic signatures in the warp
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>>97879024
You have Egyptian stargate terminator ripoffs in one corner, Australian mad max squig ate my baby fantasy orks in another, you've got space elfs that look like power rangers, space elfs that look like power ranger bad guys, Geiger alien ripoffs, literal world War 1 and 2 tanks and infantry, great value off brand gundams, Baskin Robbins 21 flavors of space marines, Leonardo DaVinci ornothopers and mechanical horses.
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>>97879101
In that case it's opposing him either way. Either his eyes can't identify right or even if he was right, it'd prove them distinct. Neither supports his point.
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I hope everyone is having a productive hobby weekend, especially to anyone working on their collage entry.
t. stuck at gf's so can't do any hobby :(
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>>97879107
That doesn’t mean anything to me nor should it mean anything to you. Is it AI or is it not? What does that mean, AI is so powerful? That’s just a simulacra, and basing your society on worshipping material simulacra is lame.
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I once mistook a chainsword for a lightsaber.
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It's comical how lame regular space marines are next to chaos space marines. Is GW even trying?
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>>97879122
Who is judging? This is a setting where tech is do powerful it's literally magic and/or interacts with the supernatural.
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>>97879122
>nor should it mean anything to you.
Going to chime in but
>YOU SHOULD HAVE THIS OPINION
is laughable
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>>97878996
I miss Rasputin when he was a big angry cube shouting at us in backwards russian to go get hit by a satellite.
>>97879078
Not grimy, by burnt silver like heat resistant gear. If the votann rely on eating planets, every they go it's gonna be fucking hot.
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>>97879118
got constructive feedback on my first model for the collage, about to post a wip of my second for my collage entry.
everything should be primed before i go to sleep
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>>97879117
No matter what that particular guy has, a squad of Hearthkyn warriors are all equipped with bolters. So the claim that they are guys in armor with bolters remains true.
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>mfw nobody is treating your AI soul killer self as yourself
Oh wait they do
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>>97879118
Is there a deadline for the collage? I might have something to submit.
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>>97879137
>No matter what that particular guy has, a squad of Hearthkyn warriors are all equipped with bolters
Does the rules say that or can do different weapons?
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>>97879122
You sound like you're unfamiliar with the metaphysics of 40k souls and the Warp.
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I will now complain about how The Force and Lifestream are material objects within the physical worlds of their settings.
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>>97879106
And the opinion of all the men who literally created 40k since the beginning, including Priestley, Goodwin, etc. Very explicitly.
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>>97879144
>Every Hearthkyn Warrior is equipped with: Autoch-pattern bolt pistol; Autoch-pattern bolter; close combat weapon.
Everything else is a wargear option.
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>>97879133
It's not an opinion. I am saying that if it's left to be as vague " it's so powerful it has a warp signature " without detailing in what sense then it shouldn't mean anything. It's the fantasy equivalent of saying " it's magic ". Just lazy crutch writing that doesn't mean anything.
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Anon has laid a fine bait. But I will counter with a greater bait. The Votann should be even more Destiny.
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>>97879165
Welcome to 40k. You're proving >>97879146 right too.
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>>97879154
I don't even know what lifestream is and from which setting. And I don't know anything about star wars because I am not a basedgoy or a boomer.
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I want the Votann to have Shotgun Bolters that fire electric shots. I want the Votann to have blades coming out of their left arms they shoot at their enemies. I want Votann to have naked dual wielding newborn soldiers made from combined spliced DNA patterns.
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>>97879174
>a basedgoy or a boomer.
you're here though
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>The Destined
Anyone have that pic?
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I now want the Squats technocracy to be more Eliksni. In fact, I want a SIVA equivalent.
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>>97879141
You've got until.the end of the month, but there's always next month if you want to be more prepared.
Just keep an eye out for collage anon around the end of the month, and see what the highest voted theme is that people vote on.
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The biggest sin of the LoV is that they are boring. They are dreadfully dull in a universe full of creativity. And a prime example of why the current staff at GW are better of repurposing old concept rather than reworking them or iterating on them.

Genestealer cults are kino and fit into 40k seamlessly. Because they are an old concept created by better and more creative men, brought into our time. LoV fail because lesser creatives working at GW were given the task of " modernizing " squats. So we get the most sterile and unimaginative race we've seen so far.
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>>97879189
>Genestealer cults are kino and fit into 40k seamlessly.
They're less popular and they're existing in the setting forever before becoming their own codex.
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>>97879165
They actually explained it as being mini astronomicans. Sounds like you didn't do much research on them in the first place. Aren't there pdfs to read? Or did they get taken down?
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>>97879189
Pretty sure those men stole that idea from an alien comic lol about a cult embracing the xenomorph queen
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>>97879196
That's my whole point actually.
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>it is creative because it is
>trust me bro
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Men of Stone
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>>97878629
>>97878628
>>97878621
Literally who cares the mongols kneel to China and Russia now
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>>97879211
That means they're sexy enough to double team.
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White scars suck ass and the fact people defend them so much is odd
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My White geneseed inside them. The mark of my dignity shall Scar their DNA,
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>>97877058
Or simply, Unit A declares a charge on Unit B. Unit B uses the Counter Charge Stratagem to move D6 inches towards Unit A. If it makes it into Engagement Range of Unit A, then it is said to have Stolen the Initiative and Unit A may not charge, while Unit B will count as having charged in the succeeding Fight Phase.
If Unit B does not make it into Engagement Range of Unit A, then after it has finished its Counter Charge Move, Unit A may proceed to roll its Charge Distance. If Unit A succeeds in its roll, and moves into Engagement Range of Unit B, both units are said to have charged in the Fight Phase and both make their attacks at the same time.
Which, with modern 40k units having 50 attacks, means both units will likely be wiped out and removed as casualties.
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new thread
>>97879350
>>97879350
>>97879350
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Imperial Fists primaris intercessors



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