Peerless leadership edition. >Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread: >>97868776>Thread Question:Post pictures of your general! Do it now!
>>97881354>TQAlright, I posted it! Now what?!
first for fuck the things you like, specifially
I haven’t build my lord on Pegasus yet
>>97881354Here's my big retard, 500pts, ready to get killed turn 2 by a cannon
>>97881397Nice beastclaw raider bro
>>97881397Kino, I need to get a thundertusk or two as well.
>>97881354>TQHere you go. Snagrog Deadeye, Boss of the Skull Smashaz tribe!
>TQI would dox myself doing that so no.
>>97881354Lord Ajtes "the thunderer", King of the Drakskjalta
>>97881354>>Thread Question:>Post pictures of your general! Do it now!Here's /MyDude/
>>97881354There are three of them right now:Stirland, Empire - Karl Gerard, younger brother of Karl Gustav who succumbed to his old wounds after he withstood many battles against greenskins, the undead, and, unfortunately, even some dwarves over minor (or major, depending on if you are a dwarf or not) disputes related to some treasures from a long lost hold. Gerard tries to move into the lands that were held by his brother and reclaim whatever is possible after the collapse that followed his death. So far he was unfortunate, losing one of his brother advisors who withheld the ogre advance so the young noble could retreat.Vampire Counts - Countess Evelyn, an unbearable arisen who was daring enough to oppose her lord when he was at his weakest after robbing dwarven crypts and losing most of his necromancers. While he may have put his hand on many ancient bodies and treasures, his forces were depleted enough that he had to flee to save his hide. Right now he's biding his time and slowly regaining power. Who knows, he may still get back what he lost from one of his old subordinates.Chaos - Khragdob the trollkin (with his trusty trolls almost finished in the background). Very little is known about this warlord who only recently descended on the shores of Border Princes. So far he has managed to subdue a small beastmen herd led by a wargor named Ghrull. His story is yet to be told.
What happens here? Who was this sorcerer?
My greater bray shaman Enelle Autumna. Wood elf princess who Slaanesh has given beastwomen to torture and terrify the other races with. Lesser bray here >>97872955
>>97881891No offense, but everything I’ve seen of your work seems very flat, you should use some shades and highlights at least, it would look better.
>>97881531He looks grizzled and mean. >>97881612He looks like he’d have a bone to pick with my general. >>97881706Gorgeous paint jobs and great fluff. >>97881643Raroooo love the write up. >>97881891Interesting concept.
>>97881737>sorcerer Islandswizerd shit >Land of AssassinsAssassin's Creed shit
>>97879668
>>97881737I like to think those islands are covered in abandoned lighthouses, wizard towers and wharfs from various naval factions. What looks like a perfect staging point becomes a tomb when the local monsters descend from the volcanic peaks and crawl out of caverns
>>97882021Good for you anon
>>97881891anon that looks unfinishedi know everything about white is a bitch to paint but you should really try shading it
>>97881354>TQRasthar the Withered and Von Blutfeldt, an alliance of convenience in the search for worthy foes and their arcane lore (in the current campaign, the former has served mainly as a baggage train, but he will have his moment on the battlefield)
>>97881354big Scawy dwagon
>>97882045Thank you!
>>97882006>He looks like he’d have a bone to pick with my general.I dont know who your general is, but sure. Hed be more than happy to go do that.
Lost the 1500p game I had against Wood Elves today, learned a lot though, and the game was fun in of itself, lots of great moments during it.
>>97882064What an absolute undead-chads. I love the blood dragon axeman.
>>97881963absolutely no worries mate. I'm awful at painting. I know it, I show it, I ain't proud of its quality, but I am proud that it is painted.
>>97882021So we're getting a battle report right?
>>97882141Was it this?
>>97882141Post pics pls boss What kind of list was the woody running?
>>97882211you're not awful at painting, you just refuse to use washes or to try highlighting.It's like someone saying "I'm awful at driving" because he refuses to use the brakes.
>>97882216Driving rn but my models weren’t painted due to the short notice and his models were mostly not painted (various states of unpainted to WIP) so ngl i’d be embarrassed to show pictures but the long and short of it was she wiped out a unit of huscarls with pistoliers, melee didn’t start till turn 3, in which it was a deadlock until my other unit of huscarls with my exalted champion came in and routed them, and then were ran down by a unit of berserkers not in combat, who then in turn 5 got charged by another unit of halberdiers (did I mention my opponent was empire?) and THAT became a deadlock. Eventually some road wardens killed my exalted champions unit of huscarls except for him, and since he was too close to a unit of berserkers he became untargetable by a unit of handgunners with a long rifle engineer in it, who then charged said unit of gunners and made them run for the hills, but was one inch short of running them down. I won by 31 victory points despite losing more points of models because I captured two of his banners and the two banners he killed of mine not being captured. It was my first game and I had a lot of fun
>>97882342disgusting
>>97881891>looks at picchrist, anon, I know everyone around you tells you "its great" and "your awesome", they are lieing to you, its shit.quit this nonsense, get a job, buy real miniatures, and watch a painting tutorial
>>97882342Imagine...
>>97881354And another one (in one of his various incarnations - this one still WIP). Doesent have a name yet. Any of these sound good/like a workable basis?Varkhul the BlackenedVaelkor Thrice-CursedDravokh Soulflayer
>>97882808My armpit stinks so name him after that
>>97882490Not once has anyone ever said its good here lol. But it's not grey tide!
>>97882812I think I will pass on that.
>>97882065Cute
>>97882808Thrice Cursed sounds really cool
>>97882922I do like it. Another one that might be a good title is "the sable prince".
>>97882930To combine: How about something like "Vaelith Duskveil, the Thrice Cursed/the Sable Prince" (depending on whos talking)
What's the best campaign book from 7th and 6th edition from your experience? One that you'd recommend to players wanting to take a shot at their first campaign?
>>97882808Sir that's a 40K eldar model. Wrong general.
>>97882211I appreciate the humility, though I can't help but think that a zenithal priming of white over a cream or brown colour could make a good base to work from. Some contrast or washes would make things pop even further. You've got a good idea with the scheme, it's just a matter of execution.
>>97883030They were all designed by Jes Goodwin, so bits are rather interchangeable between 40k and fantasy
>>97883030Dilate and seethe about it. I hope youre the guy who complained about the visarch body every previous time too
>>97882216>>97882414Sorry for the shoddy battle report I’m not good at this
How do I build the wood elf dual kit cavalry? I've got glade riders as well
>>97883244Do you like ugly elf women or do you like twink elf men.
>>97882414I’m glad you had fun with your first game. While it’s not technically you just joining now, but you’re initiated into the hobby fully now. Congratulations senpai.
>>97881354Hans von Sturmwind of course!
>>97883254Crazy how much better he looks when he isn’t painted with the awful eavy metal style
>>97883230>>97882414Naw that was pretty decent man. Got the info across and congrats on your first game Did you end with 31 pts more than them, cause that's just a positive draw. 100+pts is a win.
>>97883261I don‘t even know what style i am using lol.
>>97883254Holy fuck, so Archon made that Warcraft miniatures game even without getting the license
>>97883267Yours looks great. I really didn’t like that sculpt when painted in the GW style, which is called “ eavy metal “
What do you guys think about the rumour that there's a future TK vs WE box coming?Should I wait before buying into these guys?
>>97883060I did use a wash, and I'll have to redo the skull and maybe the flowers because of it. It was a desert bone color skull and fey pink flowers with royal purple tips, and they got full on tinted with just the tiniest bit of the wash. The flowers aren't as bad since its going to be purple anyway, but still.
>>97883420prob true, and (going forward) Bretonnia will be ignored until end times.
>>97883420I could believe it, but I also think it could be bullshit. The odds of them doing TK as the starter faction twice in a row feel not too high.>getting into these guysWhich ones? WE or TK? Either way, if the box does come you will probably be able to buy the half you want to expand your collection. And at least for WE I dont see a major update to the model line coming. TK might get skeletons updated? But even that feels like its probably some ways out.
>>97883420I’ll only care if wood elves get new hawk riders. I genuinely don’t care for anything else wood elf related outside of the wild hunt. Not even the named characters. I can kitbash my own mounted shit too.
>>978813541/2
>>97883561You need more tonal variety and contrast, as the wash is barely noticeable. Also, your light tones are way too light and your darks are too dark.
>>97881354>>978838402/2
Power Behind the Throne very well might have killed my campaign. We're 3 years in (including running the Starter Kit) and all of my players are struggling IRL in one way or another and the whole political spy thriller thing after two books of fun mystery action with occasional combat has them overwhelmed.If, and it's a big if, we somehow continue The Enemy Within, what should I do? We're on Day 3 of Carnival and only just got into the whole Dieter possibly being hypnotized thing, and we're about to investigate Gotthard Wallenstein personally, but I don't think my party, as is, can handle more social investigation RP-heavy stuff.Otherwise, I might create a campaign off-ramp and just lead the party off on some other adventure, either using pre-existing adventures or making one up based on our party's personal stuff and the consequences of their actions, but I'm concerned that there'd be no overarching plot to guide the party at that point.Worst case scenario, we shelf the campaign and move on to a different setting entirely, because I'd rather prioritize my players' fun and mental health over trying to force them to continue a campaign they no longer have the energy/willpower to enjoy. Thoughts?
>>97884462Rape them and force them to give birth to whatever spawn crawls out and tell them they must carry their fathers burden.
>>97881354This was my general from today’s game. He spent 4 turns flying between forests while my opponent tried to chase him, chased off some halberds and ban with a terror check, and flank charged his knights. It was a good day to be flying.
>>97882380Forgot to take pics, except for my own dudes prior to deployment.And I faced a wild hunt mounted list, so it was all cavalry except for beastmasters and the wizard (who could fly).A combination of my inexperience of facing any type of elves, along with a not optimal deployment (due to the first reason) and the typical bad luck of the die lead me to lose the game. Had fun though, and is what’s most important.
>>97882342cringe AI slop
>>97884462I just wrapped “the horned rat”For my party I did 2 things that really helped the flow:1 I LOOSELY followed the book and picked out a bunch of story beats I liked, and let my party basically discover the events they wanted to discover. We ended up doing a lot of things out of order, but as long as the big scenes (saving the law lords kidnapped daughter, the garden party, and the attempt on the grafs life) happened, then everything else was just improv.2. I ran the first bit of “the horned rat” at the same time. Untangling the two intrigues was a mental challenge, but the cover of a more obvious “skaven plot” helped to provide tangible leads to follow up on that weren’t direct red herrings, and it made for a smoother transition into the later encounters in the 4th book.I recommend for your players that you let them describe the scene they want to have, and feed them the necessary information, even if the scene doesn’t match the exact dialogue or setting of the book.
>>97882211Dip them in pic related. Give a drybrush of original base color. Spray matt / satin varnish if you want to get rid of the gloss.That's about 5-10 minutes of work for infinitely better result>>97883254Nicely painted but I fucking hate that model. Straight out of Warcraft. I hope if they ever refresh Empire models this won't be the style they will go for. >>97883420Highly doubt it because starter boxes usually contain popular factions.
How sad will I be if I have nearly 400 hours playing empire across TWW1, 2 and 3 and want to use infantry, cavalry and artillery in my games? All the plastic kits look great.
>>97884755That's how I personally think Empire should be played. I'm building a combined arms list myself. Wont be very competitive but atleast it will look good.
>>97884689>30 ungor 5 wideD E E PEEP
>>97881354>TQEl Don Bigote ready to lead the mercenary band into chivalric quests (and profit, if Uccello the paymaster has any say in the matter)
>>97884703decent advice, I actually wish they woud make a clear matt varnish dip,
>>978847551. play what you want to see on the table2. find opponents that you enjoy playing the game with. (you wont care if you loose)3. double down, refine, but never betray your original vision.
>>97884703>Highly doubt it because starter boxes usually contain popular factionsOne side anyway. The other side is there to grift off the popularity of other.(marines)
>>97881354General the first - count Luthor, who's currently leading a small undead warband through the woods of Sylvania.
>>97881354>>97884909And general the second - prince Florian of the woodland realms, currently without an army to lead and so spends the days fluttering around on his bumblebee.
>>97883144Yuck.
>>97884692If we do keep things going, I might have to work that in. They clearly need a more direct plot right now as opposed to the whole intrigue web thing.
>TQextremely rough looking start to my WOC sorcerer lord of nurgle on steed, but trust the process. I haven’t written lore for him yet, and i haven’t picked out a name for him. anybody else struggle with naming their guys?
>>97885068Names get more forced the harder you think about them. Try to just pick something that comes to you, you can always add more aliases as they come along.Fester comes to mind first. Or something with Pox. Or Arnold.
>>97885068Fester Poxarnold.He looks cool, by the way. I look forward to seeing him done!
>>97882961I like Perilous Quest from 5th.
>>97885068>anybody else struggle with naming their guys?The nice thing about poopoopeepeemen is that they don't require fancy names
>>97885068Rotchild the Well Despoiler.
I think the army that needs a model refresh the most are dwarfs
>>97885491No it’s wood elves.
>>97885491>>97885494Both are quite chopped
>>97885068K'ugh the Phlemy
Anyone got a recommend for Halfling STLs to proxy either Empire or Brets?
>>97885779maxmini has entire ranges of halfling proxies for empire and brets (and undead and araby and dogs of war and imperial guard)but they're not stl
>>97883762TK are the protagonists of TOW though
>>97885799that's cathay
Working on some baggage trains for my beastmen and empire forces. Still need to find a banner for the beastmen one and maybe a lone soldier to guard the treasure chest for the empire one
>>97885068Abdul Ibn Khalid Husseini, a dark sorcerer from barbaric araby come to despoil in the name of his heathen gods
>>97881397I see your big retard and raise you a big lizard
>>97885068Rotraud Gormann, former Bright Wizard and jealous brother of Thyrus Gormann, corrupted by Egrimm van Horstmann.
>>97883266Ok I didn’t know, yeah I got 31 points over him so it’s a positive draw. Thanks!>>97883253And thank you as well!
>>97885068>anybody else struggle with naming their guys?I usually do, but thankfully Skaven are piss-easy to name: [Scratchy-sounding syllable] + [Thematic word][Body Part] always works.>Here's, uhh... Kritch Shockclaw
monogod daemon army for TOW is hard to build. Should I even bother?
>>97886141this isn't adobe slop, this is actual arti stop buying books becuase all the modern art looks like half finished digital crap
>>97887122Mechanically? No. Demons are a faction built around their soup, and monogod has no reward for doing it at the cost of "most of your roster and flexibility"You CAN, and some are stronger than others (tzeench monogod is pretty doable, or was back in the day) but in general you want to mix gods because all your best units are spread out all over the place
>>97881354More of a more question. But my group has decided we're doing a short game in the WHF setting. Now, I know basically zilch about WHF outside of a bit or random Vermintide 2 stuff, dwarves and their grudge, and no one liking Skaven.After a quick search I decided I'm going to play an Ogre Leadbelcher merc, mainly because the idea of being a big guy shooting a cannon with his bare hands, then clubbing people with it hilarious. What should I know about Ogres if I want to be the most Ogre possible? I've been filled in that they're always hungry, but that's about all I picked up so far.
>>97887356Ogre mercs and maneaters usually pick up the culture where they are at, so if he is new to the area he can be asking questions like; Why everyone wears the silly hats (and where he can get one), why that person (a general, priest, etc) is important, and what creatures this land has to offer his palate.
>>97887356>What should I know about Ogres if I want to be the most Ogre possible?Honestly, ogres are pretty self-explanatory. Big dumb brutes who like eating and fighting a whole lot and are just smart enough to realise that money can be exchanged for goods and services like food. Their only real quirk is how surprisingly open-minded they are. Ogres can get on with and later try and mimick almost any culture, whether its chaos, elves, dwarfs, empire or whatever else. Theyre incredibly "mentally flexible" in the sense that theres no "ew, don't like those" at least on a cultural level.
>>97887356ogres are very hungryogres are not dumb, they're merely strong enough that the brutal option for solving their problems is more often than not more than sufficient, so they rarely need to flex their brain muscle, but when they do, they can be scary clever ogres are very hungry ogres are weirdly adaptable, mercenary work isn't rare for them and when they stay long enough in one place they end up absorbing the culture, or at least the fashion, of their employers ogres are very hungry ogres are not fat, most of their bulk is muscle, think of them less like a very big fat man and more like a human-shaped hippopotamus, if you bother to know or go check their musculature ogres are very hungry ogres come from the east, slightly west of the not!china empire of warhammer, they began migrating west after they devoured so much in the region that the chinese sent a meteorite after them, devastating that part of the world, that meteorite formed a crater that the ogres worship as the great mawogres are very hungry the meteorite wasn't a normal meteorite, and the crater isn't a normal crater, it's genuinely a god in the physical world, an abyss into the earth of hungry flesh and enormous teeth that bored to the other end of the world in a second similar abyss in the ocean ogres are very hungrythe great maw is in the back of the mind of every ogre, they pay homage to it, they respect it, but it curses them with an unnatural hunger and sometimes even less natural compulsions, making the pilgrimage to reach the great maw and actually come back is difficult
>>97887635ogres are very hungrya lean belly is a sign of weakness and abnormality in ogre society, kids born too slim are abandoned in caves where they become troglodytic savages, while large bellies are respected and admiredogres are very hungryogre skin is thick enough, and the layers of fat and muscle even more so, that ogres don't really need armor for the most part, and they are so immune to pain that it's not uncommon for them to have very brutal "piercing", or even just knives and hooks piercing their skin as a convention way to carry things alongogres are very hungrythe two pieces of armor they most often use are the gutplate and an armoured fist, only the butchers go without gutplate in their society ogres are very hungry ogres can digest pretty much anything, and if you can imagine their strongest stomachs as akin to natural cauldrons, then you won't be surprised by the fact ogre butchers practice gastromancy, culinary magic, where they devour (sometimes cook) magical ingredients as a mean to unleash spellsogres are very hungry ogres, like most other races of the world were uplifted by the unfathomably powerful god-like race known as the old ones, nobody truly remembers them, or knows this, but ogres were made as a last ditch attempt by this race to create a species that would be resistant to chaos, and while chaos ogres do exist, it takes so much exposure to chaos for an ogre before it starts manifesting mutations that it could be argued the old ones succeeded
>>97887639ogres are very hungryyou know who else is also very hungry? halflings, it's not exactly known, but halflings were uplifted in parallel with ogres and the two share a sort of natural kinship despite their differences ogres are very hungryyou know who doesn't share a kinship with ogres? giants; the lands where ogres first live in was very much adjacent to the mountain kingdom of the skytitans, and before the chinese hurled a comet at the ogres, the ogres had laid siege to those mountains and devoured the giants. the giants that are left on the world are degenerated inbred descendants, smaller and dumber. and the ogres still take pleasure in breaking them and enslaving themogres are very hungryogres first saw gunpowder in those wars against the giants, because the giants employed enormous cannons against them, when the giants were toppled, the ogres repurposed to cannons, mounting them on heavy chariots. leadbelchers similarly repurpose smaller cannons, but they don't need chariots for thoseogres are very hungryogres don't have a written culture, they have oral traditions and tales and stories of ogres that made great things, amassing names and epithets to oneself is perhaps the second thing ogres most want to do after amassing foodogres are very hungry
>>97887635>ogres are not dumbAnon, the smartest ogre alive is "nearly human" in terms of their intellect (and thats thanks to a magic crown).Ogres arent trolls, but they are dumb.
>>97887643>, and before the chinese hurled a comet at the ogres, the ogres had laid siege to those mountains and devoured the giants.No, that was after. The ogres used to live in the plains near cathay alongside the humans, and were only forced into the mountains of the sky titans by the coming of the maw (and later forced from those peaks by weird weather).
>start building an orc army>suddenly feel the need to build a dwarf army at around 1000 points>start building dwarf army>suddenly feel the need to build a beastment army at 700 ish points>start building a beastmen army>suddenly feel like building an empire army at around 1000 points>start building empireI'm screwed, i'm simply never going to be able to finish
>>97887754me here but add a bloodbowl team, 4 mordheim warbands, and an empty bank account
>>97888078err, tried to say “same here” and “me too”…
>>97887408Good to know. We're mostly running towards a mountain currently on a job, though I took the hungry cue and ordered an entire cow's worth of ribs for lunch(and saying I'm eating light because I'm leaving for a job). And when we found some dead guys by the side of the road, I pulled the limbs off one to snack on while we walk, which the DM said was getting into the Ogre spirit. >>97887635>>97887489Thanks. I'll definitely have to do a bit more reading up, but got a good bit to chew on for next week.
>>97888128Sounds like you have the spirit of things. if youre worried about being too "one note" (which could end up the case if youre JUST "I eat things - the person") consider what quirks your leadbelcher has. Is he particularly trusting/does he have some sort of "Leader"/"manager" in the party? Is he particularly mercenary, a miser who will shake everyone down for all theyre worth? Is he particularly open minded and tries to mimic what others do (even if probably superficially/without really "getting it")? But yea: Big bastard, likes to eat, likes to fight. Sounds like you get it.
>>97887741In the first Cathay AJ it outlines that the Ogres had started to encroach onto Sky Titan territory prior to the meteor, prompting the Dragon Emperor to share the secret of black powder with them to try and push them back. The meteor came after to help them out because things weren’t getting better, but it ended up pushing all the ogres into Sky Titan territory, eventually overrunning their fortresses and wiping them out. Considering Ogres got their magic from the Great Maw, caused by the meteor, and their guns and siege cannons from the Sky Titans, Cathay is responsible for unleashing quite the menace of a faction onto The Old World and I’m surprised it was sort of just glossed over. Maybe if Ogres get introduced into the game proper they’ll address it lmao.
>>97888188I have not read that. But prior lore is pretty clear: The Dragon Emperor summoned the Maw because ogres kept eating cathayan peasants, their homeland (and most of their race) destroyed the Ogres were forced into the sky-titan peaks where they encountered and eventually devoured the solitary giants until magically destructive weather forced them even further into the mountains of mourn.
>>97887754This is me but with random games since now I'm collecting fucking clan war for some goddamn reason.
>>97888207That’s all still in tact, >>97888188 this post was more to clarify that the Ogres and Sky Titans were encountering each other prior to the meteor according to the relatively new Arcane Journal.
>>97888258Then it isnt fact, because the chain of causality was pretty clear previously. Something they clearly changed.
Rate my snowflake OC. https://pastebin.com/7Ln4EUXi
>>97887754Post your beasties
>>97887741Wouldn't that mean that the cathayans caused the fall of the titans by pushing the ogres towards them instead of fighting them as well?
>>97888399Sure I guess?
>>97888270>and a seat of low prestige.It feels like you're shooting yourself in the foot by defining the place as not being of particular renown and prestige and then base both of the elven brothers' stories about the claim of this place. If I were to add or revise something I'd try to make their deal a much more personal affair, so hear me out>the younger brother was actually the firstborn between the two, but he was born with magical potential, so the parents faked whatever birth certificate dark elves have and sent him as hostage so he wouldn't get killed due to malekith's lawsnow the "younger" brother has a much more personal vendetta against your dude because in his eyes he would feel robbed of his life (being male wizard hostage in the cult of khaine must not be very comfortable. and in true DE egocentrism he wouldn't stop to consider the inner causes of how his life turned, namely his wizard powers, but only the external actors: his parents for not finding a better way to cheat the system, and his brother for living the life meant for him)and on the other side of this rivalry I think your dude's real interest in the location could be stronger; you say he was thought to be dabbling in dark things that were around the place, perhaps getting dethroned made him lose access to those and that's the real treasure he's after, more than the prestige of the tower. or furthermore losing those sites could be why he had to escalate his dealings with chaos, maybe he was already making pacts with slaanesh but those weirder ruins gave him an edge in the interactions so he wouldn't need to dip too much into chaos shit personally, so now his soul is without those leverages and he's forced to serve directly until he gets back to his antique toys and their fix.also I don't think I've seen one of the two monsters he rides, the text isn't descriptive there, I assume you're the guy with the fell beast conversion
>>97888409It reframes the dragon emperor as a two faced betrayer, so chances are gw won't write it that way.
Who the fuck is this?
>>97888626Yes, also a carnosaur (one of the old ones), which really feels more about the size of what the cold ones are described as in the malus darkblade books. So thats the cold one. As for the other suggestions/notes? Ill keep them in mind. I made Kar Khareth "minor" because for one thing I didnt want as much baggage about established politics, and a smaller fortress far out east feelt like a good way to have a "bottle setting" in a sense. Plus it feels quite dark elven to have a big feud over some sad fucking chunk of rock in the midle of the wastes whos main purpose nowadays is to stop chaos barbarians from reaching anywhere nicer. Its like Naggor I guess. Making his brother the actual elder and a dark wizard could be interesting, even if having him be "actually the rightful heir" adds something to the dynamic too imo. "A younger brother deposed by a powerful older sibling with dark powers" and "the older and more conventionally powerful sibling overthrown by a younger sniveling wretch" are a bit different as far relationships go. But I do think its a good call to add a bit more to "why he wants to come back". The "dabbling in dark powers" thing was in my head a lie, the sort of slander someone might spread to forment dissent about someone. I could imagine his younger sibling dropping hints that he/his father were actually dabbling in the sorcerous arts or chaos cultists or something, just enough to present a cassus belli for those with axes to grind anyways. But making it true could also be cool, maybe his expeditions up north produced some interesting finds and he started getting into that shit.
What kind of goals and personality would you give to a Tomb Kings society-centric story? I am going to have some living people among them from Numas but I'm also going to make Settra the Imperishable a bit of a substitute father figure for a young girl. I do intend for him to be big in his goals but not some incompetent dude who wants to be praised for doing nothing but be praised for doing awesome. He still wants everything that called promised him in life and he does not want his subjects to a main mindless and tomaton in general among his average Tomb people.
>>97888658Not really. Summoning the maw, like summoning tidal waves (another thing he has been known to do) is a "get of my lawn" move against forces cathay cant fight conventionally (like the dark elves). The Maw (if "The Maw" was even the intended summon, and not just "a meteor") was meant to kill the ogres, and it did, them fleeing to the peaks of the sky titans and subsequently killing them was an unintended consequence which the dragon emperor had both no real ways of stopping or knowing would happen. There was also no real connection between cathay and the sky titans (until now I guess). At the end of the day the dragon emperor nuked them from orbit, if the survivors were enough to eat the sky titans theres not really much more he could have done had he not nuked them (because the Maw DID kill most of the ogres)
>>97888817In which book Malus had to deal with a carnosaurus?
>>97888824The mummy
>>97888838None. But in those books cold ones are multi-tonne behemoths. In the first book, a couple of berserk cold ones effortlessly smash through an entire phalanx like its not there, and in the chaos wastes Spite fights whole herds of beastmen.In the game art proper (and models) theyre more horse size, still vicious but clearly more "velociraptor" tier. But in those books theyre true monstrous cavalry.
>>97888911Compare that art to something like this. And remember Spite is supposed to be a smaller example of a cold one. Its a "black library-ism", theyre obviously not actually that size "really" and its the books taking liberties, but since I had a conveniently cold one shaped mount of a monstrous cavalry size, I figured I may as well play into it. So instead of a dwarf carnosaur im saying hes riding a particularly big cold one (counts as Daemonic Mount)
Hey Anons, how do WFB 4th and 5th editions play? My brother and I are getting into the game again and I’m wondering if it’s worth learning them or just brushing up on 6th edition instead.I’m looking for a game that has the characterful rules and charm of older editions, but is also fairly easy to learn. Also, how necessary are the magic cards and stuff? I’m concerned those would be a limiting factor.
>>97889097>. Also, how necessary are the magic cards and stuff?For magic? Very.
>>97888755doesn't look like a gw dwarf, makes me think spellcrow for some reason, but he's not in that catalogue
>>97888817Funnily enough, the new "cold ones" are carno sized
>>97889097If you can stand a 5-minute trip into goybook, I'd strongly suggest you look into Warhammer Renaissance, it's a fan created ruleset that merges the best parts of 4th & 5th, whilst adding some quality of life from 6th & 7th and filing off most of the jank. It has really comprehensive army lists for pretty much every army, it plays fast and feels like the oldies.You can also find the magic and item card scans in the same group, they can be printed at home with little hassle.
>>97889189Yea, that old carnosaur is kinda tiny. Really nice model though.
>>97888755Thats Bill,Hes not a bad bloke but I've heard he has a penchant for buggery
>>97888840>The mummyWhat?
>>97889571With Brandon fridge
>>97881354>>97889208grabbed the Warhammer Renaissance army book and rules off their site and uploaded them here if anyone is interested:https://gofile.io/d/BTbewChttps://gofile.io/d/BTbewC
>>97889908Thanks!
>>97889908>build a beast workshopkino, soul, will ask someone to try it out. Although theres no way its balanced right? Im sure you can build a chaos abomination that will kick a dragons ass. Yea, doing some napkin maths you can build a chaos dragon (sans 2nd breath weapon) for 300~ptsThen for an extra 45pts you make it T10, and then you can add more wounds too. Or make it ignore armor saves (not that you NEED it at S7). The chaos abomination seems really good. As it should be I guess given its a "general unlock" in a warriors of chaos army and the other marks do quite a lot for you.
>>97888824Petty royal bickering.
>>97889148In that case, how integral is magic to the edition? Also how fun is the magic; would I be missing out on something significant if neither of us brought wizards?>>97889208>>97889908Cheers Anon I appreciate it. I’m not against community rules, but the physical artefacts of old rule and army books are part of the draw of older editions for me.
trying out colors for my Tamurkhan art, planning on making a dwarf fortress/capital where it's captured by him and Ungrim Ironfist appears to retake iti hope the colors really tell it's Nurgle-ish :-D
>>97890051Yeah, the custom chaos beast is a pretty good consolation prize for losing out on god marks.Then again, chaos has so much build variety that I'm just tempted to make a bunch of warbands just for the lulz
I was so completely and utterly mindbroken and disgusted by the greed of the Bretonnia MTO that I set out on a rage-quest of autistic spite to collect all the 5th edition Bretonnian infantry I wanted off of ebay for the same price as the MTO. That quest is now at its end. Fuck you, GW. Fuck you so hard. Sneedmania forever.
>>97890546I like 'em
>>97890448>how integral is magic to the edition?It's huge, particularly in 4th edition where both players can cast spells during each magic phase. Things are a bit random and break easily, but it's also loads of fun. There's over a hundred spells, though many of them have similar effects. It's not exactly mandatory, but many armies can benefit a lot from using it.
>>97890557Me too, much prefer these lads to the mudcore plastics. One of them is an oldhammer knight iirc, but he works perfectly as a militant grail monk, maybe a pious veteran infantryman who's been on crusade and become of the cloth. The other monk is an Empire Warrior Priest I'm converting (literally). I may have to trim the fluting off his breastplate to sell the look.
>>97887730Nah he's right, it's a matter of perspective.
>>97881354With a group of only 5 Centigors how should I best equip and utilize them?So far my idea was to give them ambushes, javelins and Great Weapons, but I have little to no experience using cavalry units.
>>97890546Damn dude don’t make me regret getting that core box set
>>97889097They're great editions and well worth a shot, especially if you've got a lil' sprinkle of that nostalgia for it.Getting around the cards is pretty easy, you could just take a pack of regular playing cards and write on their faces (22 power, 8 dispels, 1 each of 6 unique cards).As long as you have a pdf of the rules you can fill in the blanks no problem.
>putting my high elves on 20s>figure I'll get the new eye patch lothern chick>suddenly realize it's probably way too big to go on a 20Well shit, guess we'll see how big she actually is.
If I am planning on grabbing the bretonnia starter box, what would be a good "next step"? More Knights?
>>97890546Based>>97890626Centigors are afaik one of the worst units in the poopoopeepee roster so just do whatever you want
>>97890770What makes centigors bad?
>>97890798drunken + pretty pricey for a light cav unit
>>97890758Either way you should grab it soon since it was removed from GWs webshop.
>>97890626I say this as a beastman model poster that owns no centigors and has never played with them but if I were to I would give them ambush and great weapons.GW thought it would be funny to make them initiative 2 so going down to I1 is basically no penalty at all, and spiking your drunk roll and hitting frenzy to double your now S6 AP2 attacks makes the unit actually slap for its points cost.Ambush in as late as possible and crash into the flank of something already in combat or hunt a warmachine or something.
Which are the cheapest armies to collect? It seems high elves and wood elves get a boost from their dragon lord but what about others?Idk why but I was surprised how expensive orcs and goblins are, granted I shouldn't have been
>>97888755Hes a dwarf from Lead Adventure Miniatureshttps://www.miniaturicum.de/?k=889&lang=engSlightly bigger than GW ones
>>97890546The converted warrior priest is a nice touch. How are you going to run him?
How bad was 7th edition balance that I keep hearing about people still playing it using 6th edition army books?
>>97891156Quite. Some armies (high elves, demons) were just really silly broken and basically playing a different game. The power creep got so bad they had to emergency kill the edition and do 8th (which is why not all armies got their 7e book).
>>97891260to be fair it was rare for an edition to give an armybook to all the factions
>>97890798>What makes centigors bad?Fragile for the cost, unreliable due to drunk. And the damage output isnt that good because they lack lances or the equivalent.
>>97891270Maybe back in 4th/5th, but by the 2000's/modern warhammer I dont think thats really true any more.
>>97891270Another point for 6th. I wish the Dogs of War was a real army book like they were in 5th.
>>97890972Chaos probably. You can build a 2K list from the battalion.>>97890798They're pretty expensive for a unit with no armor. The problem is internal balance as beastmen have access to much more better units.
>>97891156kind of like playing 8th edition armies in 6th edition, dwarf runes got silly, skaven were nuts, HE had unkillable ward bunkers and demons were a 40k army basically.
Found these genies, could be cool for Araby.
>>97890972Chaos is historically pretty cheap. The army box gives you a lot of warriors and knights and both are expensive. A lord on dragon (which you will often field because its one of their few "good" units) is also like 1/4 of your army in pts.
>>97890626>>97890919Im the beastwomen player and centigors are wildly under rated. I run the following:Beastmen Brayherds [341 pts]Warhoof, Heavy armour, Throwing axes, Shield, Ambushers, Mangelder, Pelt of Midnight - 1687 Centigor Herd, Great weapons, Throwing axes, Ambushers, Gorehoof (champion) [Scourge of the Burdened] - 173They operate as a backbone ambush unit to running conjunction with everything else. Scourge of the burdened helps everything that can ambush in some degree, and goes off fairly regularly. Move ungors into position, reposition centigors after shooting to be out of sight. And if you do end up frenzy, you get terror checks and a 17" charge range with warband with 360 degree view. It demands to be answered, and against beastmen which also have crashing front line it causes complex choice.>>97891273Susceptibility to magic is their biggest problem, but yes fragility in general. But that's basically all beastmen. They don't do defense.
>>97890770Am I doing Sneedmania right?
Anyone want to have sex with me
>>97890972Assuming you mean first party GW stuff and not 3D print or 3rd party sculpts, which is an entire different calculation, probably WoC. Aside from those maybe Brets (because of the core box), HElves/WElves and just a shot in the dark maybe Ogre Kingdoms because they don't seem to need many units.
>>97891005As a Grail Monk, basically acts as a second unit champion. Bretonnia doesn't get many interesting peasant characters unfortunately. Maybe I could house rule him and write my own rules for Warrior Priest-esque prayers, but in most games he'll just be a unit champion. Same with Bertrand the Brigand, I think most games he'll just be my archer unit champion unless my opponent is okay with his old rules.
>>97891420Maxmini has a full-blown Araby army for like $200 and it's to the same standard as the new Cathay stuff.
>>97891457>tfw 64 archers and 2 wizardsMy list would fucking eviscerate a beastie army unless they brought lots of centigors
>>97891688why do they have so many halfling variants
>>97891729You're not meant to question it.
>>97891688Has anyone here bought from them before? Is the quality decent enough? I'm eyeing some of their goblin minis to use as hobgoblins.
>>97891729Wouldn't you like to know, weather boy
>>97890770>no sigshitLizardmen from there look fine wym? Granted their skirmish poses are rough for r&f & one of the Krox heads look bad, but oal not terrible
>>97891913That person is being performative and/or trolling and trying to make nuanced reason with him is folly
>>97891913It means don't juice AoS sales numbers.
>>97891913Lizardmen, Night Goblins, WoC, and Skaven are all perfectly acceptable 1:1 refreshes perfect to use in WFB/TOW. Their VC look like fucking shit except for the Strigoi (it's actually Ushoran himself, which is cool) and the Blood Knight on zombie dragon. Everything else is unusable level bad, not even the Wood Elf stuff is salvageable, and the awful Inner Cities of Sigmar niggerslop clad in Playmobil kit isn't even worth saving, you're better off using literally anything else for the amount of work you'd have to put in to make one of the niggers in Fisher-Price-meets-MapleStory armor look like a halfway decent Empire character. Fucking embarrassing range, I hate CoS like nothing else. Even their terrain is awful.>>97891956Buying secondhand on ebay or from Ivan and friends is harmless. Obviously do not buy a kit off the shelf.
>>97891913Anon its a shitpost.
>>97892039The vast majority of your opinions here are worth as much to me as a shitpost so I treat it all the same
>>97892065>he takes shitposts seriously
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>>97892117such a weird addition to the range this was
>>97892117>when the ungor starts walking towards you with his dick in his hand
>>97892166that's nothing, when they're carrying some other gor's dick is the moment you need to start worrying
>>97891003Nice find, thanks.
