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Work in Progress, "I can't believe I have to be at work in less than 12 hours!" Edition

>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD

>WIP Tutorial Images Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw

>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno

>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

>Paint thinning 102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI

>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM

>Decal Like a Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c

>How to Edge Highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk

>How to use contrast style paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI

>How to Paint with Tremors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g

>Airbrush Priming and Thinning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8

>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special way
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny

>Previous Threads:
>>97873529
>>97858239
>>97840919
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Post bucktoothed redhead vampires
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planting my first freehanded banner down to mark the thread for the karaz ankor
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>>97884142
While it looks good as is, I would suggest adding some highlights on the markings, and doing a light brown glaze over the whole thing to finish
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A cleric of filth I'm working on! Nimlurun iykyk, with a great white rat cloak.
The plan for the armor is rusted over severely, but the color is up for debate. I'm thinking green with silver trim
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>>97883518
"I'll give yah $500 for your horribly dilapidated automobiles. Adds me a M2 on the front, yeeeehaaaaw"! ~ President Barrack Hussein Obama, Announcement of "Cash for Clunkers", 2009
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Did up some orks and gretchen speedily
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I have some AK muddy ground paste that is a few years old and is getting kinda dry (not like dry-dry, but its getting gummy if that makes sense)
How can I restore it? simply adding water? or somethng else?
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Callin' this one done
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>>97884823
nice. also nice photo.

do you have a name I could look for to find the STL for the model?
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>>97883953
Working on a kill team of ghostly guardsmen.

>>97884142
Veri nice!
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>>97884843
It isn't out yet, but look for Factorum Labs.
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asking again has anyone tried gsw's metallic paints? I hear people talk about the other shit they sell all the time, but I've never seen anyone using their paint except for a few jewtube videos that say it's awesome.
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>>97884859
Afriel Strain? They look great
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It's been a while, but I repainted my Nadeshiko themed bust from scratch, not that I was that far into it to begin with. I've still got some work to do, the face especially is too dark (or the body skin is too bright, either/or).

Also I figured out a new setup for really easy black backgrounds that's been working well, at least in my case.
Get something like a laptop screen or a tablet, and instead of having it in the same orientation as the photo, turn it 45 degrees or whatever direction that isn't going to reflect your light. Unless you've got lights all over the place you should be able to find an angle that doesn't have any obvious reflections and you get a super black background.
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Are these worth it? I rarely see people talking about them
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>>97885320
afaik they are very good but they are alcohol based
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>>97885320
I once tried them with brush, didn't really work as each new layer would reactivate and tear the previous one. Maybe with airbrush they would be better but I don't want to risk and I don't have active ventilation either.
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Based and varnished him
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>>97885479
I feel like you could make this mini stand out very easily with just a few additional highlights
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Got some more hobgrots done. Only 5 left now.
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>>97885490
hobgoblins
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>>97885504
hobgoblings aren't ugly, those have a slave name for a reason
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My dogslop sculpts
I would like to make a mold and copies of the barbarian guy as I really would like to paint it, but not over the master...
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>>97885504
Hobgrots, hobgoblins, they're getting whipped by my chorfs all the same.
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>>97885487
That's just that anon's style atp, many people have tried to give him that same piece of advice and he never listens.
IIRC he thinks it looks fine on the tabletop so doesn't bother.
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>>97885626
with that barbarians shape i feel like 3d scan and print would be less likely to snap off bits than a casting a mold
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>>97885735
he just need to cut the arms at the armpit and cast in 3 pieces
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>>97885769
Maybe one at the armpit and the other one at the hand, as its left arm has a kind of a bracelet at armpit height
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Any ideas how to improve this model?
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>>97885479
Clean
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>>97885801
Well considering by the looks of it all you've done is base coated, washed, and dont a quick dry brush, yea, theres a lot you could do. Glaze some actual color in, highlight the flesh, hihglight boils, add texture to the cloth, high the more ovvious proonter marks.
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>>97885490
Luv me sum hobgrots
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>>97885801
The tree he's holding could use some more highlights. Maybe if you added some streaks coming down from the dents in his skin they could look like burst boils.
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>>97885801
The pic is really dark, so it's hard to understand the colors.
>paint the nails and teeth
>paint the branch/staff (it doesn't look highlighted)
>highlight the face to draw attention to it
>finish the base. It will give you more info on colors/saturation/points of interest.
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>>97885773
>bracelet
a great feature to hide a gap
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only 5 boys left before i can get into my deff dread .

>>97884503
great checks on that guys axe

>>97885801
imo its all very dark - this would look better if you made some stuff super bright , like yellow spots, to give some contrast
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>>97885977
Thanks anon, checkers are pretty fun. Very nice ork there as well.
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>>97885801
just say its 'le grimdark' so you can get away with being a lazy nigger
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>>97885977
better job on the eyes than I usually bother with mob infantry. nice work
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>>97885801
there's a lack of contrast there, everything is the same tone. I'd add different reds to the hat, some bright greens to the pustules, etc.
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>>97886010
Hot damn anon, I recognize that big mek. Haven't seen you around 40kg in a while.
Whatcha been up to? Any recent kitbashes? Last I saw were your deffkopta bikes.
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I have cleaned up the chest the best I could and added a wash. I think I put it on a little heavy but it's not that bad in person.
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>>97883953
Im sorry to ask that but who is this dark haired girl that appears on every WIP collage now?
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>>97886113
That ivory shoulder looks a bit thick, what exactly did you use here?
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>>97886115
What's going on big guy, that's my WIFE
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>>97886123
I didn't thin the Vallejo bone white enough. I struggle with the consistency of that paint, it's always either so thin it takes three coats to paint or too thick and lumpy.
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>>97886115
a former fellow anon
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>>97886113
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>>97886115
That's what Duncan looks like now.
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>>97886175
Grok is this true?
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>>97886115
She's from some camping anime.
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>>97886115
Like >>97886138 says, it's Louise Sugden, aka "Savage Ork Anon". She used to post here with us, but then got hired to work at Forge World, which then got absorbed into Games Workshop proper.

You're probably not gonna wanna sit through the whole thing, but she was in GW's "How to Play โ€“ Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress" with Peachy, Saint, Duncan, and Becca Scott:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THr3cB1n0VM
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>>97886209
you are aware implicitly
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>>97886164
I'm afraid I'd mess it up so I'd rather just leave it be.
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I tried speed paints thinned with speed paint medium. It's a completely different type of paint. It actually works how I think it's supposed to? Previously it just kind of stained everything and sometimes got thicker in the recesses. Now it just works correctly. Although it's a little thinner, so the light grey primer shows through much more, but it seems to actually work correctly now.
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>>97886275
theyre supposed to stain
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>>97886133
White colors are problematic to get thinned properly in general, that's why it is recommended to start with something darker before moving up (like light, warm brown for ivory and then white or very light grey to white-grey and finally white). You will get it eventually if you won't stop training.

>>97886209
Alright, thanks. Reminds me of one cute store staff girl I knew, who used to paint minis and gunpla. Waited too long to ask her out and lost my chance, something I regret to this day, after all those years.
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>>97886280
what i mean is that there was inconsistent coverage, which looks like a bad stain job.
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>>97885626
I think they're nice! I would add some biceps to the barbarian though, right now the t pose from the wide shoulders and skinny arms hurts it
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>>97886209
I'd like to see her face when she found out that costume involved stilts and a girdle.
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>>97886275
What is speed/xpress/constract medium made of?
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>>97886336
Dishwasher rinse aid, same as ink wash but not as thinned
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>>97886024
raising a kiddo ha. I used to get like ~50 games of 40k a year in during my 20s. Now I'm a grog who mostly paints in the evening. Playing some Dystopian Wars lately, jumping into an upcoming Necromunda league tomorrow. As time goes on, I'm much more of a hobbyist than a gamer, just the way life goes I suppose.

still, this hobby has made me many of my dearest friends and spawned lots of good memories.
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>>97886352
Game nights get in the way of quietly painting and listening to music while the cat sits on your shoulder.
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>>97886362
it's weird to think I've been painting over half my life now
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>>97886362
as much as i love my cats, fuck them while painting, they get hairs everywhere
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>>97886415
>i love my cats, fuck them while painting
get your dick out of your cat, anon
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>>97886438
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Working on some blackshields, I forgot to take a picture of their before color so the world will simply never know
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>>97885715
>he thinks it looks fine on the tabletop
He's right, clean minis look good if the paint coat is truly clean. It's like gunpla.
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>>97883953
Done with my second repulsor executioner, I dont particularly like painting vehicles but Im okay with how it came out. Here it is next to the first one
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>>97886352
>I used to get like ~50 games of 40k a year in during my 20s. Now I'm a grog who mostly paints in the evening.
You're not me, but ... how are you me?
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>>97886545
Looking great anon. Pulling off black vehicles is hard, but yours look awesome. Luv the yellow accent and weathering.
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>>97886275
Washes are the same way, Marine Juice is far superior to straight out of the pot.
Everyone knows to thin your paints but pretty much every type of paint works better thinned. The exception is art brand inks, which are actually better thickened a little.
>>97886336
>>97886351
The formula is secret but there is absolutely no way it's simply surfactant (which is what rinse aid is).
It is some sort of a low viscosity polymer medium. I would guess some retarder too.
You'll get there sooner by adding water to matte medium than you will by adding dish soap to your contrast paints. You don't want to lower the surface tension, that's what causes uneven staining.
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>>97886415
Not if the cat quietly sits on your shoulder watching you paint.
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>>97886587
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>>97886568
time marches on my friend. I wasn't as young as the kid in the picture but I was ~14 when we pulled out my friends figs and rulebooks on the floor of his attic and tried to figure out 2nd edition. My neighbor got me into Space Hulk and Ogre and away I went down the rabbit hole
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>>97886587
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>>97886618
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>>97886630
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>>97886545
>I dont particularly like painting vehicles
You're using black contrast, right? I can see why that would be tough on a vehicle but it absolutely mogs.
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>>97886618
>>97886630
I got mine properly trained, I can leave paint pots and miniatures out and she won't touch them, Ive had some minis on my coffee table for months un-swatted just to prove it.
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>>97886679
My cat tried to drink the paint water once but you just have to pick him up and move him and he gets the point. And cares, contrary to stereotypes.
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>>97886571
>>97886667
Thank you

No I havent used contrast on these, it'd be a nightmare since I don't have an airbrush. The base black is literally just the primer's.
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>>97886691
That's the only thing mine needed reminders for, forbidden water looks delicious.
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>>97886691
Cats are as easy to train as dogs, consistency and repetition.
Two main hurdles are
>no one even tries with cats, theyre allowed to do as they please
>like with dogs, other people in the home fuck it up with mixed messaging
That's it.
Mine even fetches.
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>>97886894
They can certainly train but their psychology is different. My cat understands boundaries and understands things like "sit" and "up" but he'll listen if he feels like it. It's not mixed messaging, we're consistent.
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Making baggage trains for empire and beastieboys
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>>97886963
They do lack a few millenia of selection for obedience.
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>>97886985
>me when I lower somebody's credit score over a meme
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>>97886115
Some mediocre pussy this thread simps for, because they think her being into mini painting gives them a chance.
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>>97887371
>t. 35 years old balding permavirgin
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>>97887371
>imagine being too new to know she was one of us
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>>97887382
I have a wife and kids, seat sniffer.
>>97887415
>imagine giving a shit that some girl used to be on 4chan
Did she show tits?
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>>97887441
sure you do, big boy
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>>97887415
>she
>one of us
NTA but that's definitively impossible, women don't function that way.
Proof? How many years long anons ITT do you know the faces of
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Shut the fuck up you retarded faggots. Post minis.
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>>97887459
Don't post bait in the OP then.
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Show me your best Ork kitbashes!
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>>97887462
You know full well it isnt bait.
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>>97887462
you're the one baiting thoughbeit
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>>97887471
Seems like it is, or do you think she improves the thread?
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>>97887477
Something being neutral to the thread does not make it bait.
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>nononono you cant deviate from topic in the slightest nor make references or have fun at all, just miniature painting at all times, every post, every picture, everyting
fucking turbo autist
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>>97887569
It's the usual suspect, the shitposting started around the same time of day again
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>>97887577
You say this morning, noon and night.
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>>97887462
>Don't post bait in the OP then.
That's why each night we does the Tell, so we can remembers who we wuz, and where we comes from.

Even when I build the collages by hand, there are invariably blank spaces left over - sometimes more than others - so I like to slip in things that we as a community have fondly baked into our identity: Louise, Duncan, Rin, Johnny ... if it makes enough of us smile and appreciate WIP just a little bit more, I feel it's worth it.
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>>97887592
>if it makes enough of us smile
I have tape over my webcam.
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>>97887592
Keep doing it dude, I enjoy it
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>>97887592
I enjoy it as well, don't mind the sperg
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>>97887462
>woman exists
>gets angry
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>>97887592
Do what you want, but don't cry when it results in conflict from people who don't enjoy e-celebs.
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>>97887592
Never listen to the schizos unless you're trying to triangulate their location to call in artillery.
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>>97887692
all you had to do was keep your dumb fucking mouth shut and there would be no conflict, you retarded sperg
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>>97887688
>woman exists
>simps
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shut the fuck up, both of you retarded apes.
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>>97887700
all you had to do is not post e-celebs and there would be no conflict, you retarded sperg
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>>97887592
I'm fine with the louise/duncan/rin/johnny posting as long as it's not completely off the rails, which it basically never is.
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>>97887701
Thread was chill until your sperg out Norwood 4 King.
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Dunc
>...
Suggs
>REEEEEEE SIMPS WHY DO YOU POST A PIC OF HER
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>>97885801
he is low contrast but that's ok I guess. he looks too dry though. you should try to make him look more slimy.
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This is my first time painting anything bigger than a marine, so I don't really have good instincts
Does the flesh here look like it needs another coat before I wash?
I've done two (Rakarth Flesh)
Sorry for the shitty lighting
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>>97888018
Your thumb looks like a toe.
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Body trim mostly done, just needs a little oiling.
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>>97888018
The metal parts look suitably wicked - as one would expect from the Dark Mechanicus. I think the flesh is ready for its washing. My experience with Rakarth Flesh has been less than stellar. Like Citadel's other off-whites, a lot of times I feel it gets chunkier than it should be. Did you experience this? If so, how'd you get around it?
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Started up 2nd Juve for retro Eschers. Its a print of a scan so I don't where the fidelity got lost but it was a tricky one.
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>>97888189
It actually thinned out pretty well for me, decent enough to work with. I had the same experience you're describing last time I used Wraithbone. Maybe I just got lucky with this pot.
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>>97888280
why is she so chalky?
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>>97886980
Looks great, I really like the vibrant colors you used for the veggies(I think that's what they are, right?)
>>97886545
Fantastic work as always!
>>97886413
That's an impressive portfolio, anon.
>>97886113
It's pretty clean now, good job. You could maybe try adding a couple highlights on the most prominent edges? It should be pretty easy to do if you approach them with the side of your brush.
>>97885977
Really nice work on the skin!
>>97885801
I'm assuming the grimdark is intentional but I think it would still benefit from some kind of "pop". Maybe you could try painting the boils in a brighter tone and make the skin around them a bit inflamed?
>>97885243
Lovely pinks and I(obviously) like the Nadeshiko palette
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>>97888347
It was over 30ยบc here today so paint was fighting me a bit, probably introduced some texture that way. Like I mentioned its a 3D print of a scan neither of which I did so there's some other surface texture from that as well.
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Quick paintjob, I can feel my NMM slowly improve
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>>97888441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZs0PFjX9cI
Sorry for the unhelpful comment.
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>>97888370
>I'm assuming the grimdark is intentional but I think it would still benefit from some kind of "pop".
OG grimdark had plenty of white and yellow, even in the Turnip style there should be a healthy amount of light brown or off-white.
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Practicing highlighting, how's the beard looking for you guys? Tried to make it look like the light is coming from one specific direction.
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>>97888620
fuck off, you shitposting faggot
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>>97888659
>angy
>not hehe
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>>97888620
looks pretty flat and uninteresting
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>>97888698
Would you go for an even brighter highlight on the beard then? Maybe a tinge of yellow?
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>>97888441
It absolutely reads as metallic despite how roughly it has been done, so good job
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Why is everyone mad about the dwarf?
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>>97888732
he's a notorious aosg(and occasionally 40kg) shitposter
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>>97888732
There's a couple guys who have it out for me for whatever reason.
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>>97888706
If you don't want to go brighter you can make the recesses on the beard darker for contrast.
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>>97888732
>tribalist faggot who goes into /aosg/ to shitpost about how good WHFB is
>goes into /40kg/ to cry about how bad 10e is despite never playing once in his life and showing off the same handful of halfpainted beastmen and a single plague marine
>goes into /wfg/ to complain about how bad it is compared to mesbg
he's just an insufferable faggot that spends his days shitposting instead of painting
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>>97888769
>recesses on the beard darker for contrast.
How would you go about doing that? My thinking was that the focal point of the dwarf warriors are the shields, so I wanted to make it look like the light is beaming on their shields and whatever else that would be situated in that direction.

I took this photo from another angle to kind of explain what I mean, I tried to paint it like the light is coming from slightly above and in front of where he is raising his shield.

>>97888776
Lies upon lies.
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>>97888822
Non australian version.
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>>97888822
>>97888831
fuck
off
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>>97885479
I like it brother
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I have a very specific problem doing eyes. I have more or less the precision to do them right, but I sometimes just can't fucking see where the eyeball is. I've thought about buying a magnifying headset to help. Anything else I can do?
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>>97889285
Yeah, magnification can help.
But also lighting direction, and sculpt geometry can be issues.
Shadows from any eyelids and eye sockets can make seeing them properly hard in a lot of lighting conditions where you can still properly access the eye from the right direction with your brush.
Lots of (shittier) models have just poorly defined eyes and it's better to just paint them in a way that looks good despite the geometry.
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Every time I say I'm done it's a lie.
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>>97889400
What's important is that you're having fun.
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>>97889305
Obviously flooding the eye area would help define it, but then that requires you to use a shade you might not want to use. I'll have to experiment a bit.
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>>97889517
I'm confused because I don't see how that connects to what I wrote?
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>>97889523
I'm thinking of other solutions. I wrote something else that would have made more sense in context but then deleted it.
But ya my lighting is mediocre. A nice bright white light in my hallway but it's just a ceiling light. Sometimes I'll use a headlamp but then I take it off and forget about it.
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>>97888370
Thanks kind anime poster
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Kinda dead in here today, no?
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>>97889960
should I remind everyone that in america it's called clear coat not varnish?
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>>97890072
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I honestly cannot believe I waited this long before trying a panel liner. You know that 'talent in a bottle' thing about washes that's not really true? Well this thing is basically magic. You can make a basecoat look like a nearly finished mini in two minutes and you could pretty much do it in the dark it's so easy
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Went and looked at the game rules a bit and saw the sponsors thing, so these two are going to be fast and painted clean, laser weapons and boosters with a uniform build to represent a very high money sponsor investment vs the last two I did rusty and ad hoc.
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>>97888018
It will probably be fine, since you're going to highlight over the top aswell.
I'd recommend glazing the wash into the gaps in the muscles, rather than just doing an allover wash.
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how long on average does it take liquitex white ink to dry when airbrushed
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>>97890358
like 30 seconds.
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Are the army painter blanche paints any good? I just find it odd that their site doesn't even have an image displaying how the individual paints look painted on a model like all their other speedpaints do (pic rel)
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>>97890414
They're fine, the blanche/zorn palette are just memes to begin with. But if you want the colors they're fine.
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not my best bases, but I had fun making them
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>>97875748
Some much better photos of my recently completed mimic. Took them in the sunset.
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Do you guys know of any tools that would allow me to cut plasticard edges at some predefined angles for a consistent connection?
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>>97875748
>>97890544
Brighter light with more inner tongue detail
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>>97875748
>>97890544
>>97890547
Rawr!
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>>97890545
do you mean like, cutting the edges at a 30 degree angle so you can make corners?
i've seen some designs for little sleds for craft knives, but mostly for cutting foam.
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>>97890423
You just activated my autism, buckle up.
>Zorn palette
First of all the Zorn palette is not a meme, it's a great way to harmonize your color scheme. It also teaches mixing well since you need to work those four paints hard to get a decent range. It's perfect for expressing either a gloomy or violent mood (both wonderful for 40k) and can have some bright colors without looking clownish, even when it should (Howling Griffons).
I don't want to say "let's you and him fight" but there's an anon /here/ who has a yellow chaos army with the Zorn palette and it is one of my favorites.
>Blanche palette
I've seen Blanche describe his paints (and inks) in multiple sources, and he always included non-Zorn colors, although a lot of his works follow a Zorn color scheme (with a brighter yellow). He doesn't mention Zorn in the older sources, in Ratspike he even lists his favorite artists without Zorn. Most of the paintings in Ratspike don't follow the Zorn palette however so maybe he discovered it later. The Inquisitor Sketchbook is entirely in those 4 colors.
>the colors
The Blanche paints have little to do with the Zorn palette. They name drop Zorn but the only extent of that is 4 "inspired" colors in the main sets, one of which is wrong (Zorn requires a cool white, although the effect of the off-white is reduced when there's a pre-mixed cool grey). The Zorn connection is pointless, you can get that with 4 bottles of paint.
On the other hand, they are obviously Blanche in spirit since he helped design them. They match a lot of 40k art that came later inspired by him, more than they match the paints he actually used. I think a better way to think of them would be the grimdark palette by John Blanche.
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>>97890364
that doesn't seem like nearly enough time
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>>97890607
How so? It's a thin layer of paint that just went flying through the air.
Or do you mean you want it to take longer? You can add retarder but the whole point of an airbrush is the flat coat that comes from drying very quickly.
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>>97890617
>I just saw a thin layer of paint fly over my house!
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>>97890364
>>97890607
the problem is that it reactivates, not that its not dry
my advice: add some varnish to the ink when airbrushing
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>>97888441
its extremely rough but at the same time very believable, what is this sorcery??????
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>>97890643
It's really weird to me that I've been using ink for years for zenithals with zero issue ever, but as soon as eons of battle starts talking about how he varnishes over his zenithal because it's supposedly weak, everybody is suddenly having ink+airbrush issues. Note that he never had an issue doing it for years before either. I guarantee in 1, maybe 2 years he will mysteriously have dropped it from his process.

That said, I guess some people think it's necessary to varnish over your zenithal if you think that might help.
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>>97890596
Yes, that's exactly what I meant! I could use the foam ones as well, since I eventually want to start scratch building.
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>>97890653
Couple of things
1) I dont watch the fat balding retard videos so idk what his process is
2) I have been doing the ink+varnish (MIXED) for years now so idk whats up with that

I just came to that solution on my own after several experiences with the zenithal reactivating when painting over it.
In any case, I rarely do zenithal nowadays, maybe if I intend to do the basecoats with contrast-like paints, but I rarely approach minis that way anymore.

So yeah, maybe people are doing it because its a fad, maybe some had legitimate issues with ink reactivating (i can attest that it does happen) but in my case instead of taking x2 the time I simply mixed the ink with varnish to make it resistant.
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>>97885016
I try to stay away from gsw, so I have no personal experience.
Stahly is usually very thorough and did a review of the range, with a not great verdict on the metallics.
>needs lots of shaking
>splits on wet pallets
>golds don't work
>leaves bubbles
Unless gsw is very cheap were you are I'd just go with one of the good brands.

>>97890494
I think those would benefit a lot from matt varnish and a clean rim, but they are already a nice addition to the minis.
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>>97890494
salamander looks like he has giant sambo lips lmao
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>>97890684
when I am bored I look at paint review videos and gsw chrome was mentioned as being one of the best
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>>97890715
I hope youre just getting started because making the body and the shell the same colour makes it look incredibly boring
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>>97890494
sort out the fingerprint on the salamanders rim
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>>97890722
Hey now, I thought this was the Work-in-progress general. Trust the plan.
I have been thinking about how to make the shell a bit more interesting, but they aren't all that colourful in their official artwork anyway.
I might try to hit it with some green or a bit of purple dry brushing.
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>>97890602
Nah, AP are just a bunch of cheap fucks, but with a good marketing. Their Warpaints Fanatic range was (and still is) way too bright and desaturated because they put too much white into everything, basically having no vivid dark colors. "Blanche" sets, are the only paints that are on the darker scale, and a bit more vivid, too. When you start looking at the sets in that way, the entire thing starts to make sense. Blanche lent his name for money, that's about it.
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>>97890916
I see no reason why you should be a slave of the official artwork

You can add spots to the shell, or some kind of gradient idk
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>first can of vallejo spray varnish (gloss)
>shake it well for 2 minutes
>spray mini
>so white that for a second I thought I was spraying with the wrong can
>it came out super thick and granular
>currently letting it dry hoping it wont look like shit
What did I too wrong? Sprayed too close?
I had the same spray but as Prince August previously and I was told they were the same brand so I expected the same product.
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>>97890980>>97890980
Hate to say it (since I use Vallejo paints frequently) but their spraycan varnishes are somewhat odd. It is possible that you got bad batch, too.

About distance, how close you kept it? Usually it is recommended to keep it at around 30cm away.
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>>97883953
Looking for a recommendation for a 'blacken steel' color.
I hear people glazing P3 for that but never used it before. Anyone used it (and know the color). Or does anyone have a good blacken metal recipe (preferably no more than two steps- I need to use it for literally hundreds of 10mm models).
Thank you for any help! Pic unrelated
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Got all 20 models done, now I can work on the bases tonight. Should be all finished after that.
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>>97890937
When you want bright and desaturated with great coverage they're the best on the market. The Blanche sets do include a few important darker shades for the original triads, but the default assumption is you're painting over a black primer and drowining models in washes so it makes sense why they went that direction.

My biggest complaint with them is the finish being too glossy. Time I save in layering due to coverage and ease of wet blending (compared to AK's thin streaky airbrush-friendly paints) is then lost brushing on matt varnish.
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>>97891008
scale 75 black metal and black ink
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>>97891047
Does monument hobbies have anything worthwhile for this? My local started stocking a lot of that. Never really used it too much, I'm more of a Vallejo whore.
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>>97890989
30cm doesn't sound that far off compared to where I was, and like I said a previous can worked perfectly with same use.
Unfortunately seems like a defective product. Should have bought the exact same one.
Is Prince August not the same as Vallejo?
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>>97891043
If I want bright and desatured with great coverage, I'll just grab AK colors that are supposed to be bright and desatured. Not AP paints that are bright and desatured because the company that made them are retards.
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>>97891109
I don't know what AK has done to earn the fellating they get here. I have two of their acrylics I really like (warm grey and black) because they cover light grey primer smoothly in one coat, but the other dozen or so are very average, no better than GW equivalents. Old vallejo was better, and I still prefer working with a lot of the Scale 75 I have despite their obvious deficiencies.

They should rename the line ">3 thin coats"
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>hold mini in one hand, spray can in the other
>shake can with one hand
>stop
>shake the wrong hand and mini falls and explodes
I hate being retarded
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>>97891120
>I don't know what AK has done to earn the fellating they get here.
Because AK is the "it just werks" company. It's consistent, reasonably priced, and dependable. That, and the fact that they also make pretty good enamels and oil paints, which are exactly the same kind of just werks.
>no better than GW equivalent
I have over 90 AK paints and most of them perform better than (much pricier) GW equivalents. But even if they were just about the same, it would be a better deal because of how overpriced Citadel paints are (and because you have to decant them from shitty pots).
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>>97890653
It's true, I said the same thing as you, and then the autist I was arguing with claimed it was still a thing even if the mini was dry for months, I just happened to have a yellow ABd marine WIP about 6 months old, and I shit you not, the yellow ink would come off on a damp dry brush, not a lot, but it would
I hope you enjoyed my essay
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>>97890713
Garbage, nothing beats vallejos air aluminium for mettalic, and ive tried them all
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Because I'm between houses, I'm storing a lot of my mini painting gear at my parent's place, and I'm staying with a friend in the next city over. I haven't been able to paint a mini in about a month and I feel just about ready to tear my skin off.
What can I do to fill this hobbying gap in my heart? It has to be a solution that doesn't require buying a whole setup.
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>>97891226
Tupperware wet pallet
Cheap IKEA lamp
Disposable paper or cardboard to protect the table
It's not high quality, but it's the bare minimum for a setup if you want to get painting without spending too much
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>>97891226
Maybe practice NMM, you only need two or three paints for that.
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>>97891265
Matter of fact you can even paint whole miniatures with just black and white, and practice rendering different materials by texture, osl, nmm....etc

Evidently you'd limited to value contrast and no colour contrast, but its an excellent exercise
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>>97888280
Finished up the Juve
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>>97891130
>hold mini in one hand
>spray can in the other
>put them both down because I forgot to put a glove on and I dont want to paint my hand black again
>pick both back up
>spray
>goes directly into my face because I didnt check after picking it back up
I feel you
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>>97891407
Thank you, I kek'd.
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>>97891407
>>97891130
you guys ever run into a tunnel, only to discover the tunnel entrance was a painting in front of a wall, so then you slam your head into said wall?
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>>97891130
>have super shaky hands
>terrible combo with resin+glue
>grab a finished chaos dreadnought fist i need to varnish
>drop it inside
>one blade breaks off
>re-glue it
>go on balcony
>drop it again
>two of the spikes break off
>somehow manage to find both tiny spikes in the balcony dirt (countryside)
>re-glue them
>varnish it, come back later
>think varnish is cured, grab the fist
>two giant digit prints on the armor
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>>97891429
I'm genuinely retarded and have a carer but im not quite that bad.
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>>97884859
I'm finally down to the last details. Mainly lenses, glowing bits and small fixes.
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Priming grey this time and not drybrushing to get a smooth clean paintjob.
Looked at the rules closer for making cars and a standard game can only afford 1 laser gun each for two "performance cars" while also having "nitro boost".
sadly the "jet engine" equipment is chassis locked to "drag racers" and that doesn't fit the theme for supercars.
So the bigger laser is now just a sensor module/camera.
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>>97888707
>>97890647
Thanks anons.
As I've learned, the key for NMM its not the smoothness, but the quick jump from dark to bright, and -I cannot stress this enough- the secondary reflections (which never, ever, should be as bright as the main one)
And just keeping in mind that metal operates on a different value range compared to other materials, going from dark to very bright really fast.
Also adding some ambient reflection in the form of colour helps even further.
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>>97891521
i knew that car on the right seemed familiar, but mine looks like a smaller version
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>>97891374
Really nice skintones on that one, killer stuff
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>>97891604
Different hood and no windshield wiper on yours also no scoop vents behind side windows on mine, its a Ford GT but a different sculpt, mine is the GT-40, yours might be a different model of the GT too.
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>>97889400
That looks great. Looks a bit like the Ontos.
I generally like your stuff, but its too "british" looking for the most part. But this vehicle/turret combination i would actually buy on MMF during a sale

I'm continuing with my vehicles.
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I don't think I can do her eyes better.

I'm also afraid of making her too Caucasian when highlighting her skin.
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>>97891884
They look pretty good I think. They need a white dot though by the pupil, and the bit on the right iris's top right corner where it's blending into the sclera is the biggest issue.
>I'm also afraid of making her too Caucasian
Understandable.
You can always glaze it back down to be browner in the shadows after the fact if you need to, but it does look like you're going for a smoother, more flat shaded anime-figure type of look, unless that's just because you haven't started the skin much yet.

Also, the new captcha taking like 30 seconds to load is going to kill 4chan completely. Here's hoping it's just a tech issue and not a thing on purpose to force people to buy the pass or something.
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Did one of my blackshields up, still need to work harder on my bases
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>>97891911
I only painted base layer of skin tone and applied washes, just started with eyes since thats where I usually get most problems. Im almost tempted to just leave her as she is.

Posting is also affected from what I noticed so its most likely side-wide issue.
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>>97891919
Base looks fine.
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>>97890637
lmao
>>97890643
>>97890653
It depends on the ink, some inks don't have a lot of medium so it's fragile. Not reactivating technically. I add medium to ink so it's wash consistency just so it's a little more controllable, but it also adds a little durability.
In case you think I fall for youtuber memes, I never use varnish as an intermediary step because of poor adhesion on top of the varnish, but I know some youtubers swear by it.
>>97891043
I like that paint job. I agree that opacity is its own reward sometimes.
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>>97891991
Varnish as an intermediary layer is a bit misunderstood imo. I've heard some youtubers refer to it as a 'checkpoint' or 'savepoint' or something, and the idea that you could realistically remove anything over top of it without damaging the paint underneath is silly - if you're just painting with acrylics the whole time.
When it does make sense though is as an intermediary step between different kinds of paints and to adjust surface finishes for various reasons.
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>>97891954
Thank you.
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Work on the tentacle robots continues. I also added a lobster-like tail carapace to them to hide the shoddy green stuff work. But I am unsure if it works as intended. Quite pleased with having come up with the aluminium cable idea for tentacles.
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>>97891221
https://youtu.be/VGbf4mxagmU?t=654
this was the video I was watching. do you think vallejo is better than these?

>>97891008
what do you mean by "blacken steel?" if you are talking about plain black oxide like a drill bit finish you can just use pretty much any black. if you want the slightly blue tint like a fancy gun barrel mix a few drops of blue into gloss black. ammo has a gunmetal color that looks like that, but people here say they don't like ammo paints.
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>>97892023

And here's the view from the back. The lobster plate look rather too flat, so I might remove them.
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Still a ways to go, but making progress
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>>97892023
They look pretty cool. Where are the plastic parts from? Is it Votaan? (im not really familiar with their range)
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>>97892064
Doing interiors as well
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>>97892027
Does this look flat black to you?
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>>97892070

Beyond the gates of Antares Ghar battlesuits. Found them by accident really after I got too frustrated dealing with resin prints. I really hope fdm prints will one day get to a similar level of detail.
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>>97892098
black oxide/bluing (it's the same thing) will have the same finish as how the metal was to begin with. if it was sand blasted it will look flat. if it was highly polished it will look like a black mirror. depending on the alloy and the specific process it can have a slightly blue tint.
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>>97892283
Anon there's clearly a metallic color there, idk if you need to adjust your screen or something.
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>>97891780
Yeah I took inspo from the Ontos.
>too british
Waiter! My steak is much too juicy!
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Leather interiors finished.
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>>97892415
Now do I put the windows back in under the mesh and almost completely hide the interior paint, or...
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>>97892448
Go with just mesh and make it somewhat visible?
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>>97892455
leave the windshield with just the 'glass' and put the mesh on the other windows
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>>97892455
leave the windshield with just the 'glass' and put the mesh on the other windows

PS: is posting and the captcha insanely slow for anybody else today?
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>>97892581
>is posting and the captcha insanely slow for anybody else today?
Yea, hiroshimoot fucked up.
t. took like four minutes to post
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>>97892579
>>97892581
It's slow and it's tricking everybody into double posting lmao.
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>>97892581
Thought that was my service, not just me then
Cant undo the mesh at this point, the question is purely mini aesthetic though, with a nice leather interior the cars have glass, don't want dust inside while deathracing, prosti-groupie passenger wouldn't like that. just steel grid reinforced.
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>>97892581
Yes, seems like every board is affected. Since this is almost anniversary for site-wide hacking from last year, I'm honestly worried.
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>>97892592
>>97892615
It's a sign to finally leave here. Yet another opprotunity to squander
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>>97892641
I assume it will be fixed, but if this is just what the site is like now, it's not usable anymore long term. I guess that's how the whole internet will go with AI either way in a few years anyway.
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>>97892313
I don't care what it looks like on the screen, I know what it looks like in real life, and that's a slightly blue black.



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