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I hate painting so much. It's so boooooring. Everything up until painting is so fun. Assembling, kitbashing, sculpting, printing, recasting, converting etc. But painting is so boring I can't power through it
>>97897367> TQThe opportunity to play board games with my brother and maybe even impress people with my painting. Ive been here 25 years now and those are still my main motivators to keep up with this shit.
>>97897379I hate doing basecoats so I find shortcuts. Find a method that works for you. The trick is to find a way to get a quality you think looks good enough but takes little time to achieve. Your scheme and faction do matter in this though. Marines are a pain in the ass to paint by brush but with an airbrush or rattle cans doing 80% of the job they become a breeze. Doing the same to GSC or IG with so many different textures and materials is a death sentece. Washes and inks are your best friend there.
>TQSoldiers in power armour
>>97897386I have to try those contrast paints finally
Convince me not to start an Imperial Knight army.
>>97897393nobody will want to play with you
One thing I've realised is how kind of "flat" the industry is. In that like, you go to a few of the right events in Nottingham and next thing you have 3 mutual friends with Jervis Johnson. I know they're just people and not rockstars but still.
>>97897393No. Do it.
>11th is a melee edition!>Charging is worse>Charge moves are more restrictive>Pile-ins are more restrictive>Consolidation still sucks
>>97897379Agreed mostly, I like painting individual characters and hordes where I can be low effort but I fucking hate elites and vehicles
>>97897413Overrun being a free sweeping advance could be pretty nasty. And 2" engagement range lets melee ignore a lot more terrain nonsense.
>>97897393Do it.One day I want to have enough time & money to make a knight army with only different knights.
>>97897428I'm so glad the "hide 1 inch behind le wall" shit is gone
>>97897413It's ok to not be ashamed of not being able to read, but you should at least avoid screaming it everywhere
>>97897413>>97897428>>97897440Frag grenades used to fix that
I like orks :D
>>97897450I am gay gay gay, I like long, big, orks.Ima supa supa gay, I like long, big, orks.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>97897379This except literally the exact opposite. Assembling, cleaning, sanding, gapfilling, preparing subassemblies etc. is fucking dogshit. Painting is the best.
>>97897484this nigga fucks
>>97897481this rat fucks niggas
>>97897481This nigga fucks rats
>>97897504this fuck rats niggas
rat nigga
>>97897367>TQ Pic related. Kitbashing and painting my Iron Warriors. What's everyone else working on?
What finish was the old purity seal spray? Matte or satin?
>>97897548Evil Sunz looted rhino. I’ll post it when its finished though.
How are we feeling on the level right now about 11e? Good, Bad, or Mid?
some guys in a discord are saying that jain zar and lelith aren't affected by the fights first changes because they never got charged anywayshould I call them retarded and accept the chance of a ban
>>97897599Bad but better than 10th
>>97897599I didn't even touch 10th and 11th is more of that, so fuck it
>>97897599Every change so far seems like an improvement over 10th. The problem is that 10th as a base is shit, so many changes that are needed are impossible to make without invalidating existing books. It does give me hope that the new designers understand where the problems are and next edition they can do a full reset and make a system closer to old 40k or the current 30k rules. I really, really hope they copy at least the statlines, morale and weapon rules.
>>97897615nta but fat chance, GW cycles through designers because they're retarded.>Hire designer autist>oh you design good, go into management role and deal with shareholders now>wtf why did designer autist leave???
>>97897615> current 30k rulesWith absolute sincerity, do you actually play HH3? Because I do (did) and its shit. Better than 10E 40k but its definitely not something to aspire to.
>>97897621>Because I do (did) and its shitShit taste, I'm afraid
>>978976223.0 is dogshit.Only reason why 40kfags praise HH3.0 is because they have to make do with 10th edition.Actual HH players absolutely hate it and stick to HH2.0.
>>97897599Everything showed is good. However >>97897632>Actual HH players absolutely hate it and stick to HH2.0.You mean HH1.0
>>97897615>It does give me hope that the new designers understand where the problems areRobin Cruddace was the lead on 10th edition.Phil Kelly is the lead on 11th edition.Make of that what you will.
So how do we feel about Space Pirates?
>>97897621Ideally I'd go back to 3rd/4th edition but that's even more unlikely to happen. I have some issues with HH3 but it's overall a way better modernization of the 40k ruleset than anything since 8th has been. And I really fucking like the new morale system. I also like the new 30k FOC.>>97897641Kelly doesn't write rules.
>>97897643There are like six kinds of space pirates in the setting and Red Corsairs are definitely one of them.
>>97897638Either 1.0 or 2.0Both are better than 3.0
>>97897643I don't like the new look of eldar corsairs.The new red corsair minis aren't better than regular CSM colorswapped.I think putting 6 characters into a single box is retarded.A big fat meh and I hope freebooterz look better
>>97897644Perhaps I misunderstood what his new role is then. He is the senior creative lead on 40k now. Maybe that means narrative stuff.
>>97897618Cruddace had been a rules designer in 40k for what, 15 years? And the moment they give him a position of power we get 10th edition.
>>97897641>Phil Kelly is the lead on 11th edition.So we are going to get another edition where Eldar are OP bullshit?
>>97897643the elf pirates are cool, and so are the ork pirates the marine pirates don't look like pirates, they're just like any other spiky marine but red
>>97897641You're mistaking rules lead with narrative lead, kelly is the new narrative lead, he doesn't have anything to do with rules.
>>97897667Yeah, my bad. He's the creative lead not the lead designer. I have no idea who occupies that role currently or of it is still Cruddace.
>>97897379I have this mentality too.How did you guys break free if you had it?
>>97897655That's the thing: did he design or did he have monkeys under him? If you're a great carpenter but suddenly you have to tell people to make a table, it's a whole different thing.
>>97897661To be fair any ork model can be a Freebooterz with the right hat. Any other part of the pirate uniform is just extra.
>>97897659How did he make Eldar OP bullshit if he doesn't write rules?
>>97897632>Actual HH players absolutely hate it and stick to HH2.0.>Willingly staying in 2.0Larp or mental retardation?
>>97897644OK but do you actually play it?There's a lot of shit in the system that looks good at first glance but quickly falls apart as soon as you start actually playing.
>>97897641I thought they didn’t credit writers anymore? but if they’re different designers that’s grim. >shit edition released>get told to write the new edition rules >oh btw you aren’t allowed to change any fundamental rules the guy before you made>good luck :)
>>97897679He'll find a way
>>97897677We're talking about writing rules for a game. There aren't that many writers, like 3 or 4 and the lead writer is absolutely in power of the general design principles of the ruleset, which is the thing 10th does the worst. Like, we have his fucking quotes from WarCom articles straight up lying.
>>97897678and that's goodwhat's bad is that the marines don't have pirate hats and whatnot
>>97897686I'm not the biggest 30k player and I only have a marine army but yeah. Like I said, I know there's problems with it, but I like the base and I think it's a way better base for modern 40k that either 8th or 10th, even if I would also want to go back to the 3rd-5th base system.
>>97897686NTA but the opposite has almost universally been the case for 3e heresyA lot of the rules are needlessly obtuse and verbose on paper but work totally fine in actual play
>>97897690Robin "math is an opinion" Cruddace does not get enough shit from the community.
I'm surprised 40K managed to make a believable setting where women want to have a lot of babies in a way that doesn't get in the way of their education, careers or lives, to the point where a dystopic fluoride anaphalactic needs to be pumped into the water supply on every worldWhen you look at something like Helldivers 2, their failure to manage this makes the scale of death in the setting impossible, especially when combined with the conception consent forms, what were they thinking?
I play HH3.0initially I hated it when they were doing the previews, I thought they were making it too similar to 40k and needlessly complicated in areas (e.g challenges and FOC)the leaks reinforced this, the rules are complete word salad and hyper specific so they cannot be misinterpreted, written as if the fans are your typical 40k playershowever, actually PLAYING it, it's a ton of fun and easily one of the best feeling editions for any game they've ever donevehicles are much better, dreadnoughts got nerfed, the challenge minigame is really fun when you understand it, tactical status effects add another layer onto the game (e.g you can use them to stop your opponent scoring), adding in weapon initative modifiers allows greater granularity between melee weapons with pros and consand the word salad rules have a little sentence in bold before the rule, to tell you the INTENTION of what it's supposed to doobviously it still has flaws, making units 40k-lite by removing weapon and wargear options not in the kit and removing units from the book for no reason (granted these are 90% a marine problem) is shittyHH3.0 with better rulebook formatting would be perfect for 40k, the 10th ed rules just don't work
>>97897724I don't think you understand most of the words you think you chose to use, or have an idea of the kind of reply or discussion you want to have.
daddy's getting some new pants
>>97897728Dunno ask /hhg/
>>97897728I want to use one of those Rapiers for a tankette conversion.
>>97897731I didn't choose my own words?Which ones?
>>97897724Dunno ask /v/
Have any of you ever cheated in a game?I don't mean mistakenly/deliberately ignore or make up a rule or datasheet, but much smaller things such as 'nudging' a model. I confess there was one time where my model was just outside the objective circle and while I was doing a deepstrike with a different unit on the objective, I 'accidently' pushed the lone model a hairs breadth onto the circle. with my deepstriking unit.Got walloped in that match anyway, to be fair.
>money grubbing hyper capitalist faction >Steel golems >Giant noses on the models How the fact did GW get away with making a Jew faction
>>97897724anon, governments placing restrictions on childbirth is a sign they’re horrifically overpopulated, not underpopulated. the separate crises from the bugs, cyborgs, and squids are relatively recent, so if they’re didn’t come and start killing their “useless eaters”, they’d begin culling their population.
>>97897724>their education, careers or livesWhat education and career? The average lifestyle for an imperium citizen is the same of a victorian era factory worker. You do have enough free time to meet someone and rise children and enough "money" to get some basic stuff but you'll be doing the exact same work in poor conditions for your entire life. People throw memes around of workers doing 20 hour shifts and eating corpse starch but reality is that, by design, the average conditions of 40k workers need to be bad enough that the option of revolting is enticing enough that it happens all the fucking time in some place or another, but not bad enough that your entire population keels over in a couple of weeks.
so where's the guy that was supposed to shit on everyones armies
>>97897765dwarfs have been a stand in for jews since time immemorial. if you removed the jewish traits and themes, you wouldn’t have dwarfs anymore.
>>97897728Those are pretty much my opinions too. I'll add that while the datasheet format in 3.0 is way better than 10th's AoS style format, I don't get why they moved the unit composition section around. Makes everything less legible than the 2.0 datasheets which were perfect IMO. In truth, the 2.0 format is the exact same 40k had had since 5th edition, a testament of how good it was.
>>97897737What's the matter, Cruddboy? Afraid you might see something 30k does better?
>>97897777who? also nice quads.
>>97897788>>97897220
>>97897782>dwarfs have been a stand in for jews since time immemorialand so have been goblins, and gnomes, and vampires and ghouls and all sorts of literally pestiferous vermin.
>>97897765>noseringThere's something to be said about modern fantasy character design where the entire western world, all at once, decided it was in vogue to create an ugliness that didn't reflect society nor even the artists themselves. And any attempt at criticism is met with "It's supposed to look bad".
>>97897675Won't work for everyone but for me it's giving myself a proper task, preferably with some kind of deadline. I'm generally a slow painter, and have struggled with low motivation in the past, but I've joined in the collage this month which has boosted my drive. I've gone from basically only painting on weekends to at least an hour every day
>>97897799Since when are noserings an oddity in punk/biker circles?
>>97897799Maybe you should go back to having a stroke about tap water in hive cities.
>>97897775>What education and career?Why serving the Imperium as officers, generals, commissars, rogue traders and custodes of course!Women and their strength have always been crucial to the setting since rogue trader blister packsHow you could have an exorbitant amount of babies without all women pitching in, consensually, would be ridiculous
>>97897823Imperial citizens have very limited vertical movement. If you're the child of a manufactory worker, you'll be a manufactory worker or equivalent. The very small elite population that makes up those privileged positions have enough resources to have children and rise them without it impacting their careers. You see the same shit today. Poor as fuck people pump out children because it's free labour. Rich fucks pump out children because they can afford it. It's middle class retards like us that having a child has a significant impact on our personal economy.
>>97897782>dwarfs have been a stand in for jews since time immemorialKinda true but the perception was massively increased by Tolkien making his Dorfs rather Jewish (Khuzdul is supposed to be based on Hebrew).
>>97897810>hey anon you're talking about ugliness so I'm going to focus on the noserings and give you a gotcha right here!You chose a good looking piece of art without noserings.In fact you went back in time to when Warhammer liked the punk aesthetic and paid good artists.I don't see what punk, or bikers, has to do with Votann as they are not Squats but thank you for trying to believe they look good.
>>97897844I just don't get why you associate noserings to uglyness? And I chose that art because the dude has two ring piercings per nipple.>I don't see what punk, or bikers, has to do with Votann as they are not SquatsBecause they still have a very cyberpunk component of personal modification and shit like noserings or piercings are extremely common in those themes.
>>978977833.0s biggest problem is formattingI wish they'd re-do the rulebook and make it easier to read, having the little primers that come with the book is a godsend
>>97897849(Not that guy btw)>I just don't get why you associate noserings to uglyness? because they're ugly>they still have a very cyberpunk component of personal modificationDo they? Whatever do you mean? That one guy with a prostethic hand? A bunch of other factions do that too and they do without ugly cow rings.They're waaaaaay closer to starcraft marines than to a cyberpunk faction.
>>97897807Thanks anon!Thank you.I think my problem is that I struggle with trapping myself in an endless cycle of researching to be extra prepared. I need to break free.
Got side tracked from the chaplain and started on huron's goons
Explain to me how it is fluffy for red corsairs to field beastmen
>>97897849>I just don't get why you associate noserings to uglyness?Just tell me you find them hot and we'll move on. I assume you're not very old because you should have noticed a fair few fictional characters with them in the past 10 years and they emulate roughly 10% of the problems of the women who wear them in real life, which is 10% too much.>cyberpunk is body modsDo you want to argue about how, whenever you see someone with a glass eye, you shout "THAT'S SOOO CYBERPUNK!"Or do you want to argue that an urban corporate computerised dystopic amoral transhuman and post-human setting, being called prefix-punk means it's related to the English punk music and fashion movement of the '70s (a derivative of glam rock), and therefore a a fictional faction that uses an element of cyberpunk (e.g. computers), is therefore punk and therefore is excused to use a punk aesthetic (piercings) even when piercings were extremely uncommon and I've never seen a nosering on actual punk fans other than modern scene posers.It's actually kind of funny how photographs of punk concerts results in the most normal looking white young adults possible who could fix their hair and go to work in a bank the very next day.
>>97897908If these marines showed up to rob me I'd laugh them to deathWhat shitty haircuts, do GW's sculptors intentionally not know how to do this?
>>97897548Scratch building a Chinork Warkopta that at least superficially resembles a Chinook.
>>97897908Space Pirates will take in anyone that could be useful. Random warp shit in the Maelstrom causing baseline humans to turn into beastment
>>97897837>a love of beautiful things
>>97897882>Do they? Whatever do you mean?Part of their lore is that, despite being clones, they have a very active sense of individuallity and will do self modifications, including gene modification to give themselves shit like glowing eyes or scaly skin. On top of mechanical augmetics.
>>97897393Just play battletech
>>97897810NTA, but those aren't bikers, they're Einhyr Hearthguard and odds are that they wouldn't do nose rings. Tattoos? Sure, under their armor or something like that maybe, but military units tend to enforce some kind personal standard for appearance, and something really visibly obvious like a nose ring would likely violate that rule. I honestly cannot see that not being the case for the Kyn.
>>97897832>Poor as fuck people pump out children because it's free labour.>uin Ingerlund they don't have children for work, that's illegal, they have them for benefits, child cap's gone nowmiddle classers don't have them because they don't get benniesrichies don't have them because they can afford it, it's only ever when the man is richer does the wife agree to having lotsa kidsI don't know what you mean by limited movement, officers get promoted all the time in the novels and their backstory is always being an urchin on the streets, just read the fall of cadia, there's a female officer who goes from zero to hero and they used her to inspire the entire planet to fight better
>>97897936I feel like I shouldn't need to explain how 99.999% of high ranking officers come from a military academy and thus from a wealthy family and not from an infantry squad grunt that enlisted so they wouldn't have to work in the salt mines like the past 40 generations of their family.
>>97897908red corsairs are chaos marinesbeastmen are chaos mutants
>>97897908Any time a chaos warband has a fanmade rep for being somewhat reasonable GW likes to put them in their place, simple as
>>97897643Both Eldar and CSM benefit from their existance because they look cool
>>97897908Beastmen raid a lot. They basically have the same job.
>>97897764No. I have played things wrong and been mistaken on rules to my advantage plenty of times, usually discovering it long after the match ended, but I've never deliberately cheated.
>>97897908It's in the fluff that they have warherds and mutant warlords sworn to Huron.
>>97897908Its literally fluffy for most CSM warbands to have a lot of mortal followers. Beastmen and Cultists should be way more common.Besides that, the obvious tropes match:Pirates rape and pillageBeastmen rape and pillage
>>97897908What part of CHAOS marines can't you faggots understand?
>>97897793>>97897777what a fuckin coward, all talk and zero action
>>97897946I just told you of a book with a female officer from nothingthe only character who came from something was a disabled kasrkin who had reasonable adjustments made to his gun so he could fire it with his deformity and his struggle was about how he could fight just as well as anyone else and no-one stopped him from doing so, though he ultimately died for no reason I think because he was a privileged manoh and there was also creed, I assume he's a noble or something, he kinda sucked and needed everyone else to tell him what to do and that he was a major fuckup, I'm not surprised they wrote him out of the setting, kinda a big fat lame-o, probably white too
>>97897976>Pirates rape and pillage>Beastmen rape, rape, and pillageftfy
>>97897983I realize you just don't know how to count. My bad.
>>97897925What? You don't find gold and jewels beautiful?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97897983Oh you’re RETARDED retarded, good luck bro.Creed was an orphan found on a planet destroyed by chaos btw, not a noble. He was raised in the Schola Progenium, like most imperial officers are after being found and brought back to cadia.
>>97897671crudfaggot is gone gonethank the fookin LAWD>>97897690>>97897721FUCKING THIS SO FUCKING MUCH
>>97897976>>97897984Is there any fluff about 40k beastmen being rapists? Yes I know it's inherited from Glorantha's Broo but I've never read about them having the same method of reproduction in 40k.
>>97898001>Creed was an orphan found on a planet destroyed by chaos btw, not a noble.>99.999% of high ranking officers come from a military academy and thus from a wealthy familyit seems to be that every officer in the imperium is not in fact wealthy but a salt of the earth common manwhat was your argument again?
>>97897976
>>97897393>More expensive than Chainbreaker Lance>Half the armigers.The worst thing about GW's price hikes is how utterly pointless they are. They could easily skip them and yet they don't.
>>97898009Are you under the impression that Creed is the only officer in the entirety of the Imperium?
>>97898008They are underhive scum, criminals, literally subhumans who live in space hulks, the belly of ships etc.. you can bet they rape.
>>97898015Why should they skip free money? Besides, i want them to keep my dividends coming
>>97897481Bae's schtick being "the chaotic one" when she shares a branch with Koseki Bijou and Gigi Murin and HoloJP has Haachama and Nenechii is quite funny when you think about it.
>>97898009Creed's father was one of the most decorated officers in the Imperium. She's totally a nepo-baby
>>97898016well if we look at the model range, no, because his daughter is
>>97898031We're talking about the original male Creed.
>>97897621I picked up HH2 because I like Mk VIs but never actually played it after reading the rules. What exactly did they change from 2?
>>97897677Cruddace was already infamous as a shit codex writer beforehand.
>>97897379You got the wrong hobby then
>>97898038They need to bring him back and give him a Cadian autogun.
>>97898008wild animals frequently rape others either through pressure or outright force, so its not a leap to assume people who are borderline animals in the literal sense would act the same.
Guilliman is the best primarch
>>97898008There are models of beastmen raping women
>>97898074all primarchs are garbage thoughever
>>97898079This. Complete marvel-tier trash for tertiaries.
>>97898008
>>97898008Rape is problematicThat's why GW retconned Iron Warriors fluff and they just clone their geneseed surrogates
Is there some sort of 40k booru or other big image repository? Battletech of all things has their own one
>>97898038>>97898061lmao I forgot this was a thing
I'm having an idea.
Business idea: Space Fimir
>>97898093To think they were going to do this with yarrick too
>>97898093I don't think there's a single good guard refresh model.>>97898109>they were going to>going toThe funniest part about her reveal is her art being of a chinese man and everyone here was confused when an anon pointed out that's a woman.
>>97898102It doesn’t seem good
>>97898109Can we all agree it's really fucking wierd to bring back Yarrick and then introduce this bitch with two (2) different sculpts? Also, what happened to the fan favorite Commissar Reine? I'm tired of ESG, guys
>>97898105GW were too cowardly to even bring back fantasy Fimir.I'm still mad that the AoS 3rd edition launch did lanky swamp orcs instead of a fimir revival.
>>97898061What, and take away his ivory handled patton pistols?
>>97898116>I don't think there's a single good guard refresh model.I don't think you like guard at all. The new infantry is, especially cadians, are just strict upgrades on the old ones.
>>97898123The lanky swamp orcs are dope, at least. I wish there was a 40K xenos with as much style and crazy beasties
>>97898139At least they’re trying that with red corsairs now
>>97898109That truck looks like it should be patrolling Necromunda as an Enforcer meat wagon.
>>97898127Who said anything about taking stuff away? Just give him a few options to model him. One with a stoic face and cigar in hand, other with cigar in mouth and autogun in hand. Keep pistols on his belt.
>>97898139You're suffering from shit taste, I'm afraid it's terminal
>>97898122>Can we all agree it's really fucking wierd to bring back Yarrick and then introduce this bitchIt's not weird when you consider that at some point they were planning to release her alone as yarrick's replacement.She's riding on a literal backtrack for fuck's sake.
>>97897393>People at your local meetups won’t want to play you because you hard armor check their lists.>People at tournaments will table you, because they bring enough armor and know how to use stratagems.It’s a lose-lose scenario.
>>97898143Because of one measly tarellian? Nah, they'll make the occasional cool xenos models but they'll never truly go ham with a full suite of slave monsters for drukhari or properly flesh out the tau empire. Too busy playing things safe with their biggest cash cow and churning out more marines
>>97898105It's against canon: fimir were natives of the warhammer world, they were neither a spacefaring race or a race that seeded all over by the old ones.
>>97897393There is zero reason not to, its the most fun you’ll have modeling and painting and also customizing. Pull the trigger nigger.
>>97898109Who are the spikey helmet dudes anyway Armageddon Command Guard?
>>97898123Fuck Fimir.Embrace Gitz.
>>97897393If you will hurt yourself why not go full retarded an start imperial agents instead?
>>97898190fuck off decalnigger, nobody cares about your shit opinions
>>97898189>canonWhere the FUCK do you think we are.40k has no "canon" it is all lies
>>97898193Probably stormtroopers of some sort.
>>97898190
>>97898199Why do you feel the need to insult me every time I make a post? Can’t we coexist peacefully already and just ignore each other?
What space marine chapter most deserves a codex that doesn’t have one yet?
>>97897367>What is it with the 40k universe that drew you in and keeps you in?The eldar. They are what got me into 40k and I am still extremely fond of them. Their aesthetics are the best in the entire setting.
>>97897548Crabnaught. Gotta look at houses tonight but I’m hoping to get some more painting done. Got distracted by Stellaris last night. I’m not sure if I should do the under legs the same colour as the armour panels or just make them unpainted metal.
>>97898206No, fuck off.
>>97898190>>97898206stop ban evading
>>97898190Kill yourself decalfaggot.
>>97898206NOW
>>97898116>I don't think there's a single good guard refresh model.Command Squad and Weapon teams are great. The Ordnance Battery is awesome too.
>>97898206Because youre an avatarfagging cretin that uses the exact same shit reaction images every single fucking thread. If you really aren't fishing for attention then act like everyone else you stupid motherfucker
>>97898209None. Chapters should have never had their own fucking codexes to begin with>new edition launches>James spends half of it updating marine codexes>runs out of time to give everyone else adequate attention>whoops new edition!Make it stop
First Space Wolves unit done, just some intercessors. Going grimy and grimdark and lots of wear and tear, since my last army was clean and bright colored. I thought it would be funny to have Space Wolves from different companies having the shittiest time of their lives on a dingy Space Hulk filled with horrors, Dead Space/Resident Evil vibes. Garbage and blood all over the place.I understand the pauldron colors are incorrect, but, uh, I don't give a shit. These guys are "set" in the future where the Imperium has lost and they're the stragglers who have banded together. They're repurposing old pauldrons they've found since they can't fix their equipment properly.
>>97897548Building Raptors. I have 5 Termies, 7 Intercessors, 5 Reivers, 10 Infiltrators and a Phobos Lieutenant to go. Hope to have them at least partially painted by the 11e box drop, whenever that may be.
>>97898231Nice work.
>>97898206You deserve no rights.
>>97898238I don't think this really applies when everyone can instantly identify him because he reposts the exact same images constantly and all people do is tell him to fuck off.
Business Idea: Bring back Dominators
>>97898231Nicest SW I've seen in this general, love the colours
>>97898214>that little regular hand on a tentacleRadical.
>>97898231Nice work, anon. Cool to see some nice looking space wolves. I like the attention you gave to the bases.
>>97898231cute rrat
>>97898031She kinda is but hates it. She wants to go her own path and not to ride her father's coat tails but is forced to do so for propaganda purposes.Which is thematic for the imperium.
>>97898132>I don't think you like guard at all. The new infantry is, especially cadians, are just strict upgrades on the old ones.What's your favourite part about the new cadian kit, anon?How do you like their assembly?Do you like their dorky kneepads?How do you feel about the current commissar model?
>>97898209Ultramarines
>>97898287is this mf serious?
>Lore article about how the air in Armageddon is so poisonous that it can kill a human in minutes>Yarrick cinematic shows a ton of cadians just chilling aroundLmao
>>97898289They have more unique units and characters than the blood angels, why wouldn't they have their exclusive codex?
I liked all of the new catachan model models even if they were limited characters. I still think guard is too fucking retsrded, both of old snd new.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/olcxm67r/astra-militarum-rules-revealed-commissar-graves-and-new-vehicles/Rules for new Guard vehicles and this bitch
>>97898289How can they be codex compliant if they don't have a codex?
Hanomag and Puma ruleshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/olcxm67r/astra-militarum-rules-revealed-commissar-graves-and-new-vehicles/
>Wargear options: None.Oof
>>97898286The assembly is totally fine, and the kneepads are totally irrelevant to me. The proportions, poses and weapon variety is way better than the old ones, thats a huge plus.I dislike the shape of their helmets, but thats a minor thing that doesn't somehow make the old ones better. They suck. They always sucked. Their only saving grace was the fact that the other plastic guardsmen GW did were even worse. >commisarWhateverThat sentinel however, thats a huge minus. Easily the worst model of the guard range, especially when its next to the old one.
>>97898231Gorgeous stuff Wolfbro, you’ve done well by your pack mates.
>>97898311Move shoot move looks nice on the armoured cars. Otherwise they’re about as tough as a sentinel. Wonder how many points they’ll be.
>>97898325>>97898132The old cadians were better because you could do so much with them. New ones are super limited
>>97898228You really are a nasty piece of work
>>97898311If this kit does not come with a roof for the transport compartment, i'll be mad.
>>97898362>because you could do so much with them.Like what?
>>97898366why? there will probably be 50 third party 3d designs available for a roof within the week of its release
>>97898362What could you do with them, that the new ones cant? Gluing on the torso backwards on their legs?
>>97898366Why would it?
WIP genestealer patriarch of the bio-omnissiah, with a few of his mechanicus brood brother kill team minions in tow.
>>97898325>jpgPerfectionNot a single black man or warrior woman in sightYou could paint 10 in an afternoon, 20 with a contrast pot, a real horde army model
>>97898376Looking good so far brother!
>>97898366>bro doesn't understand what a half-track isLet's be real you aren't a guardfag and weren't planning to buy it anyway
>>97898366Sorry, the used the space on the sprue for the plate to cover the underside of it.
>>97898350You’re such a fucking faggot, holy shit
>>97898373Why wouldn't it?Its not based on a german halftrack anyway.. which does not have any way of looking or shooting outside.. and yet the czech build a version with a solid roof. But if the GW one has windows on the sides, that can open even, it needs to have a roof.
>>97898366It's a Trukk, bro
>>97898350who the actual fuck talks like this holy shit, just kill yourself already
>>97898370>>97898372Tbh it was most rule stuff like being able to have a flaer squad and having heavy weapins teams in infantry squads, but it was a lot easyier to make parts fo further with the old ones
>>97898385Nta, but I genuinely don't know what a halftrack is, are these models good in the eyes of the intended guard fanbase?As a completely ignorant person in the matters of military vehicles, the exposed top of the transport and the wheels rather than tracks of the other tank look weird, what are the precedents and explanations for them?
>>97898378You can't paint 10 Guardmen in an afternoon now.. why?
>>97898404Who cares what guardcels think, it’s going to make for a fantastic trukk. The Hippogriff too.
>>97898325>weapon varietySure, if they were a penal legion, rather than one of the most renowned and disciplined regiments.
>>97898378They’re Jewish tho
>>97898391>>97898401Can you cut out the unnecessary hostility ffs?
>>97898385Halftracks came in a lot of different variants and versions, no matter if it was french, american or german, and some had roofs. At the very least, GW should add a tarp.
>>97898416They did
>>97898416Ignore him, he’s always behaving like a sleaze here for no reason.
Tzaangor bros…11th will be the tzaangor meta.
>>97898410>Sure, if they were a penal legionThey can be, if you paint them like that. >one of the most renowned and disciplined regiments.Cadia died. Don't you think this might have an effect on their supply? Honestly, i do not care if GW names the box "Cadian Shocktroops", because they are just generic Guardsmen. They are supposed to be /Your/ regiment.But even if you want them to be pure Cadians, you can justify a variety of lasgun marks in the set.
>>97898415>>97898421Kill yourself
>>97898424I frequently forget Gors are still a thing in 40k.
>>97898311We playin bolt action in this hoe
I really like the thematics of running a mechanized assault force with Guard, too bad I don't want to spend a year's salary on one.
>>97898404Half tracks were designed to give a mix between the steerability of a wheeled vic and the off-road performance of a treaded tank, and a lot of ww2 era open topped troop transports were designed open for ease of dismounting and mounting troops
>>97898402So not a model issue at all.
>>97898438It is a bit yeah
>>97898428Cadia died. Kantreal, the planet that produces the iconic Cadian lasgun did not. Ergo, it would make sense for Cadians to still be universally outfitted with Kantreal-pattern guns.
>>97898416>some had roofsFair, but this one is clearly designed without>At the very least, GW should add a tarpI don't want to scream "hobbylet", but a covering tarp has to be one of the easiest things to model with putty>>97898421Who? Which one person is being a "sleaze"?
>>97898434ask your mcdonalds manager for a raise
>>97898428>>97898444Isn't that a really prolific STC pattern? There's probably people making Kantrael lasguns in Tau space.
>Decide to get back into 40k for 11th>Working on krieg 1k army, want to take 20 man squads>See the halftrack, want to use it, figured i could do some 20 man blobs with a few 10 men in the halftracks>They restrict troops to 4 Fuck off james
>>97898428>Don't you think this might have an effect on their supply?Catachan and Krieg are death worlds and they got no problems managing to source same pattern lasguns for their troops.>They are supposed to be /Your/ regiment.And if I don't want my dudes to be a penal legion?>you can justify a variety of lasgun marks in the set.You can justify anything you want, it still shit to force everyone who doesn't want old Catachans or Kriegers to use a mix of different lasgun patterns in squads. If you want to go mixing, source some 3rd party or other regiment lasguns for your dudes.
>>97898465So you are just an autist?>If you want to go mixing, source some 3rd party or other regiment lasguns for your dudes.If you want the same pattern, just buy 3rd party rifles in bulk
>>97898366https://www.youtube.com/live/PEUTngrjprQ?t=1224s>you can also build it with the hatch closed and no troops inside it
>>97898469The lack of krieg crew is gross
>>97898468>ran out of arguments>resort to name callingApology accepted.
>>97898444Following that logic, where would those Lasguns get shipped to, so regiments could be outfitted with them universally? Maybe you should re-read the impact of the destruction of Cadia to the Imperium, the supply lines and literally everything.
>>97898464>>They restrict troops to 4the guard has 3 different standard infantry datasheets
When does 11e drop?
>>97898474They should really have kept all the vehicles designed so you can have all of them without any visible dudes if they're meant to be used by all these different regiments and they're obviously not going to have crew parts for every single variant
>>97898488Tomorrow
>>97898109I don't understand how you replace Yarrick with a woman? I thought the Cadian guy was just replaced because he had a position that passes from one person to another. Yarrick is just a guy.
>>97898464Were you planning on running more than 60 models at 1k?
>>97898464>4 troop limitRIP in peace, Green Tide.
>>97898485I'm building a krieg regiment and really don't want to deal with proxying them
>>97898490Which is exactly why a roof over the back of the truck would have been great.
>>97897976>Its literally fluffy for most CSM warbands to have a lot of mortal followers. Beastmen and Cultists should be way more common.It's a little annoying that Creations of Bile has zero support for damned units when in Bile's books he has mobs of beastmen as his goons
>>97898497How was he replaced even? They just revealed he is alive and showed his new model.
>While the non-pain emotions of Mon'Keigh are often cast asunder as irrelevant, a few select Haemonculi have recently begun to fashion new fleshcraft abominations in the twisted form of human 'Love'.>This emotion often causes the slaves to make absurd requests, such as begging for them to not be separated from their partner. Some Haemonculi take this quite literally>First, each part of the dyad is fused at the hips while facing together, their legs melding into a powerful pair of beastlike limbs. Their stomachs are replaced with a roiling biological vat of acid, an innovation inspired by the newcomers, the Tyranids.>Next, the ribs are pulled back and honed until they resemble blades. The same is done to their jaws and teeth, bent until they are perpendicular with the body>As the heavier of the Mon'keigh pushes the other down, a few quick snips are all it takes to turn the lower one's forearms into smaller forelegs, and the top's into weapons of war. The two sets of ribs make for a powerful set of teeth, with each 'embrace' of the pair chomping through limbs.>These Fleshcraft abominations can be trained to hunt like ferocious hounds, or swallowing humans to be brought back for further experimentation. They've been given the name 'Eros Hunter Engines'does this fit for a custom enemy i'm having my players hunted by in 40k rpg
>>97898502>and really don't want to deal with proxying themwhy you would be using a basic infantry guardsman to represent a basic infantry guardsmanwith the same equipment with an amount of guardsmen you would have wanted to be able to take anywaywith a convenient separation between the ones that go on 20men blobs on foot and the ones that go on 10men squads on vehicles for those miniscule differences in rules
>>97897976One would think we might get a proper Lost & Damned minis and a codex with conversion kits for Guard regiments, like how GSC have Brood Brothers, but I guess GW hates money and would rather do shit like retroactively put women in the Custodes.
>>978984642x20 Kriegers and 2x10 Kriegers is almost half of your army at 1k
>>97898498Yeah, i already have 4 krieg squads baught, was planing on getting the rest next month
>>97898517Brood brothers aren’t even a thing
>>97898493Hey I googled it and it says something different why did you lie to me?
>>97898520This looks like aids to play both as and against
>>97898526so did I just hallucinate the conversion sprues and auxilia rules?
>>97898517One day.. The NL and the IW upgrade sprues are a step in the right direction, and hopefully they will do some more such chaos upgrade sprues, for other stuff too. The only thing its not needed for is the Guardsmen, as there is an excellent plastic set of traitor guardsmen out there already.
>>97898520This looks like a blast to play both as and against
>>97898517guard players are the only players in the entire game who could get multiple back to back massive range refreshes and constantly whine that they're not getting even morenot even space marines are this spoiled.
>>97898533Yeah
>>97898549
>>97898545>>97898528I wasn't going to do a horde but then i found they a pretty easy to paint
>want to play a mechanized infantry guard list>lol the only way that's viable is if you use the new SPECIAL CHARACTER otherwise nothing can get orders!FUCK OFF
>>97898488preorder june 6release june 20
>>97898311>New hippogryph has a STR 12 lascannon Stat inflation is real. By 13th edition you'll have S11 heavy bolters and S16 power fists
>>97898512mention of love easily gets cringy, especially when you present it or its use as some kind of novelty the overall description loses itself in words, go with something more compact eros nowadays is unfortunately more associated with porn than lovefor a slightly less known classic greek inspiration, look up the myth of the ball people and the origin of love, as well as other greek terms
>>97898565>hippogryph can take a heavy lascannon>leman russ can't even take a twin lascannon anymore outside of legends (if it even has rules in legends)
>>97898560and what stops you from having your own dude instead of the special character?a name on the datasheet or an inability to kitbash?
>>97898565Where have you been all edition anon
>>97898560You don’t need orders with +1 to wound when you get out of the transport on melta and plasma guns.
>>97898577I haven't been playing because they handled my army like complete fucking trash, doesn't really make me want to play at all.
>>97898313In a way it's refreshingly boring. Just the Imp Guard version of a Rhino or a Trukk rather than the modern GW method of "stick as many guns on the thing as possible."It's a bare minimum transport designed to move infantry up the midfield as quickly as possible, and doesn't need guns since it's Firing Deck 12.I honestly wish more armies had something like this.
>>97898534>The NL and the IW upgrade sprues are a step in the right direction, and hopefully they will do some more such chaos upgrade sprues, for other stuff too.It'd be nice. There's so much stuff in the nooks and crannies of the lore you could kitbash all sorts of shit together, from Chaos rabble to Gue'vasa militias, etc. I understand each sprue requires its own manufacturing logistics but it can't be that difficult to throw out a few runs and see how they sell.>>97898549Guard minis would very rightfully be used as anything from army units to auxilia in all kinds of factions. Flak armor and lasguns are fucking everywhere in the setting.
>>97898562Yay thanks anon
>>97898575because i'm not taking faggy special characters or proxying said faggy special characters
>>97898556Godspeed, kriegtider.
>>97898105Kino idea. That bright gold/brass/bronze armour and the ae and pistol remind me of this pic. They are in prime position to be the 'sword and socerey' evil reptiles but in space aesthetic
>>97897675Uniornically get better at it and change your mindset. If you're stuck in baby mode going "I paint blue by applying a base coat of Golemite Blue, wash with Dark Shade, and then apply a highlight of golemite blue mixed with voidstar blue, then finally apply an extreme highlight of pure voidstar blue" you will be bored once you're past the basic skill level where you've got the basics of brush control down, because you're reducing an art form to a mere rote activity only pleasent in a mindless zen way with an audio book.Glazes, weathering, undertones, freehand, volumetric lighting, texturing, and most improtantly not working to some strict recipe is how you make painting fun. You shouldn't think of a model as coloring book page, you should think of it as a sketch on a canvas.
>>97898560>>97898592What's the problem? Guard officers can issue orders when they get out of transports or are set up on the battlefield too. It says so right there in Voice of Command.
>>97898592Then you're weak and retarded.
List one flaw.
>>97898371And then it'll be approximately forever and a fucking half before someone makes Necromunda gang turrets for it.
>>97898615traitor
>>97898615Tiny head
>>97898615primarch slop for adult baby marvel men
>>97898474yea, they should include an extra sprue with every guard vehicle with krieg and catachan crewkill yourself retard.
>>97898621He's too good for you>>97898622Fair>>97898626You've eaten so many buzzwords that you forgot to enjoy dumb shit. What are you even getting out of 40k if not watching big badass dudes fight?
>>97898615Pride/Arrogance
>>97898615sending attack animals to fight tyranids sounds smart until you realize they're biting alien monsters with blood full of phage cells
>>97898634I'd be prideful if I was a ten-foot-tall demigod
>>97897692wait a minute this is kind of bad ass.
>>97897379I don't see how anyone could enjoy building modern GW kits. It's so tedious and soulless with all the monopose shit with 900 parts that somehow aren't even designed in a way to cover up nubs, or moldlines, or gaps.
>>97898639Lion went into his coma before Tyranids were a thing, how was he supposed to know that?
>>97898633Primarch fans dont want to watch bad ass dudes fight, that's reserved for ork no one has ever heard of space marine captain no one has ever heard of duking it on planet who gives a fuck, primarch shit is for faggots who go "akthually in issue 32 of Beyond Dark 40k, Lorgar reveals his secret plan regarding the 14th company to..." ultra gay nigger nerd shit for retards.
>>97898565Anon lascannons have been s12 since the edition dropped
>>97898615Has none
>>97898660Nta but will you shut up?
>>97898673sorry you feel called out ultra gay nigger nerd
>Sister of Battle EditionSisters are neat because they're one of the only factions I can think of that went through formal education. I wonder what the rough literacy rate in the Imperium is? Like, on ag worlds, feudal worlds, and primitive worlds, it's obviously low. But hive worlds are just slums; many countries have both slums and widely literate populations (eg Mexico and Brazil) and civ worlds almost certainly have some educational standards.
>>97898660>>97898674>I made this guy fucking seeth and I wasn't even trying
>>97898512fucking grimfucking dark ELFDAR even
>>97898660Based, 40k is about yourdudes, even if yourdudes exist in the framework of a canon faction. Primarchs are fucking gay.
>>97898685>have bad opinion>someone calls me a retard>"heh, seething!"
>primarch haters >circlejerking about a version of 40k that never existed name a more iconic duo
>>97898692Do you mind sharing with the general the faction or factions you rep?
>>97898692The whole point of 40k is to have a shared setting where everyone can make their own guys that all exist in a shared universe where my dudes can interact with your dudes.If you play GW's dudes, you are LITERALLY playing as an NPC.
>>97898698NPC players have always existed, GW has always known a certain percentage of players are not ensouled and need to be given a skin to walk in. It's gotten much more severe with time however, only a tiny minority of players exhibit the spark of human life.
>>97898699Nta but I like ad mech a lot and I really like coming up with little stories for them based on my games, honestly a big pillar of the hobby for me.
>>97898699>repCommit the most gruesome suicide imaginable, decalfaggot.>>97898701Wrong and gay.
>>97898231wow, competently painted space wolves. it feels wrong to look at them desu.
>>97898708What does NPC stand for anon.I'll give you a hint, it's a synonym for Epic Hero!
>new deepstrike is 8">perfect for 18" multimelta devastators inside a drop pod>in the edition where they kill devastatorsYay.
>>97898711there's one more wolf anon with nice dudes but he hasn't posted much lately
>>97898231A little too blue I think, but solid.
>>97898717They're eradicators or whatever now, I dont think it changes anything.
I want everyone present to understand that primarchs have been a thing since 1989.
>>97898704Hylichammer 40 000
>>97898715I’ll deign to respond to (You) one last time, you r*ddit-spacing, semen sipping vermin. NPC means non-player character. As I am a player playing my faction of choice, it is definitionally not an NPC in the setting. Grunting out buzzwords just confirms what a low-tier mongoloid you actually are.
>>97898726It changes the fact that they are too fat to go inside drop pods, making deepstriking melta impossible for loyalist marines after more than two decades of being a possibility.
>>97898711>>97898718I literally post mine all the time
>>97898734These fucking suck. Hulkwolf anon brutally mogs you.
>>97898734We asked for competently painted and nice models, anon.
>>97898746I don’t listen to criticism from nomodels filth, go about your business here.
>>97898734these are unironically shitl though, we were talking about nicely painted models
>>97898727I want (You) to understand that primarchs have been a thing since 1988.
>>97898754Cope, loser
>>97898727So fucking lit, best post in years here.
>>97898231Best Space Wolves I've seen in ages. The more saturated blue really works surprisingly nicely.
>>97898649ask a Biologis, or maybe one of those weird totally-not-evil baby shadow monsters the dark angels keep in their basement
>>97898770Welcome newfren
>>97898732It is a character not made by players, an NPC in the setting. You are an npc playing npcs.
>>97898727>>97898758If you can’t see the difference between this and the literal comicbook-tier antics of primarchs in 30k and now 40k, you are beyond help
>>97898727That isn't really relevant to anything desu, but you're probably too low iq to really understand the problem so It's pointless to explain.
>>97898734
>>97898792>>97898795>t.Xenoscum
>>97898782No, I've been here for years and seen many other Space Wolf models posted.
>>97898727>cool lore blurbs giving a backstory for the imperium and space marines vs retarded superhero fights that eat up screen time and model production
>>97898792>comicbook-tier antics you have no idea what comics are like lol
>>97898733That's why they are going to release the new Marines Assblasters, a 10 model squad in tacticus each one with a Melta Rifle.
>>97898807Then I suggest a larger helping of carrots be included in your next meal.
>>97898734>these>competently painted
>>97898803this thread hates you so much it's coming together for a month long event to mock you.
>>97898792>he literal comicbook-tier antics of primarchs in 30k and now 40kI kindly suggest reading the whole excerpt since it includes a fucking antic between Russ and the Emperor AND nother between Russ and Lion. You couldn't have picked a worse post to reply that to.
>>97898814Why are you so ashamed about being outdone?Even if you disagree with the criticisms you get here, you surely don't think you're the uncontested best Space Wolf painter?
>>97898818Terrible idea making the collage about a single random anon here, he always was the weakest leader of the community events but now he’s sealed his fate.
>>97898813Jokes aside what the fuck is the point of melta rifles existing when meltaguns and multimeltas are already a thing?
>>97898803Stop ban evading.
>>97898313It has firing deck 12. The options are whatever you put inside it.
>>97898821Just looking at my models compared to the other guy, I’m definitely leagues above him, but he said it was his first time, so I can understand.
>>97898831is this nigga for real
>>97898821I am the alpha painter for Wolves here so to speak.
>>97898823>t.
>>97898824To let you shoot at multimelta ranges without having to carry a full multimelta since regular melta guns are too short range for anything but a near suicide attack. Also to make people rebuy their army.
>>97898287>>97898296This is literally nothing. Named characters are a nothingburger which doesn't count. All those releases and Ultramarines only have Victrix Guard. It's a pathetic waste of resources and of a release wave.
>>97898803Why are you so cringe man? From your favorite faction right down to the way you post.
I think I'm learning more from my collage knight than I have from almost any hobby project before. Maybe my old deff dread comes close.
>trying to be elitist about 40k vs comics >when 40k is directly inspired by 2000 AD stories like Nemesis the Warlock, Rogue Trooper, Judge Dredd etc lol
>>97898823It’s not random, it’s very specifically (and justifiably) targeted.
>>97898831giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming this is someone larping as you to make you look bad
>>97898831>>97898843This loser eats alone and shitposts at work events because his coworkers hate him lmao. Being the resident “wolf guy” in this haunted wasteland of a thread was all he had, and a new painter came in and mogged him easily. Sad!
We have so many opinionated nomodels here lol, total looney toons.
>>978988552000ad is bad ass and cool, super heros, particularly past 2010 or so, are gay and lame, hope that explains it for you.
>>97898846Why wouldn't you carry a full multimelta? It's only purpose is to have longer range. There's no real niche between bowth weapons to fit the rifles.>Also to make people rebuy their army90% of marine sales are newfags they don't have an army to rebuy.
>>97898843Your models are unironically some of the laziest shit I've seen posted in this thread, why are you so desperate to pretend otherwise?
>>97898831>delusional gloatingcan't wait for a few minutes from now when you're begging for acceptance
>>97898867Just shut the fuck up already you pathetic disingenuous prick.
>>97898831>>97898734No, you're a lot worse. There's an palpable lack of humanity to all of your work.
>>97898865>why not just carry a regular mmCus they’re heavier.
>>97898860>giving the mutant the benefit of the doubt>ever
>>97898647grossly exaggerated issue
>>97898872concession accepted
>>97898831>Just looking at my models compared to the other guyYes he way better than you.
>>97898877Yeah that's the price for the longer range. That's the point of heavy weapons in general.
>>97898231Right now they do not look grimey and grim dark, more comic book to me with the bold colors and bright gases on the armor. Not a bad thing mind, they look good.
>He’s posting his widely hated and poorly drawn cartoons again… Grim
>>97898512yeah, sounds cool
>>97898879it varies range to range in a big way.
>>97898888I like them and they must be pretty on point if they make you seethe so much
>>97898888WASTED
>>97898888Only widely hated if you are personally very wide, which I could imagine.
>>97898891out of curiosity, (purely from new releases mind) what army is the worst for this, and which army is the “best”?
>>97898888>yet again seething about having gotten bespoke art made in your honourIf you're weren't such an ungrateful swine you might be less universally and rightfully hated.
>>97898864you've never read either
>>97898888What’s to hate?
>>97898901Just to be clear everyone knows its just you spamming all the puke posts you pathetic piece of nomodels trash.
>>97898900not him, but its still a false equivalence nonetheless. the use of the word “comic tier” is obviously referring to DC and Marvel shit, and not Judge Dredd.
>>97898888Raped.
>>97898888>widely hated and poorly drawnhated by the wideand drawn for the poor
>>97898909lol I only ever post that one image, theres multiple of us at least
>>97898911The heresy is far from the Marvel nonsense.
>>97898660Truthbombaclat
>>97898909You should have replied to all of them so that you could get humiliated when everyone posted the screenshot of their singular personal (You).
>>97898660Truth NukePrimarchfags are an unholy cross between capeshit fans and dbz powerlevel fags
>>97898888HIDEOUSLY undeserved fucking digitsyou liar
At 2,000 points I include one (1) named character in my list, as a treat
>>97898950I use 4 with my Wolves
>>97898660Your hatred for enciclopdic pseudohistoric fiction is shameful.
Is there any point in taking grav weapons? Am I missing something? The profile seems really terrible...
>>97898936Don’t be stupid, if I bothered to reply to all his pukeposts he would have used AI to make them separate.
The heavy lascannon being S12 is a type right? Because thats just a normal lascannon profile.
>>97898971Its Heavy, so ofc it has the [Assault] keyword, not the [Heavy] keyword. :3
>>97898970Don’t false flag me you bitter scrooge
>>97897799Holy pearl clutch
>>97898936post models, vermin.
>>97898971Isn't the heavy lascannon the default lascannon? There's a twin lascannon, but that's twin linked. I don't think there's just a lascannon with no modifier.>>97898980It's only assault because it's a vehicle
>>97898963Anti-vehicle is a very good keyword. Votann get a lot of mileage out of them.
Hardest GW model promo I've seen in awhile.>>97898850GORGEOUS FREEHAND, grim enough to be straight out of a blanche background
>>97898971Probably considering the FOBs is s14 and 2 shots
Think there's any chance of a Hippogriff Commander? I'll give my soul for one. All I want is for it to have 1 order it can issue, and for it to be able to join a unit of other AFV's
>>97898988>>97898971No the field ordnance battery has a heavy lascannon but its S14 instead. I guess they put the strength down because its assault, dumb though because now we have 2 heavy lascannons with different stats
>>97898990I was about to say ramming into a wall and a bunch of tanks guarantees the orks are going to lose horrifically, but then I saw the meganob in the backline. real kunnin’ stuff.
>>97898990So my understanding is these new guard APCs and AFVs come in squads, are they 1 per box? And do they come with enough models to put these crew models in the back of every one? I really like models that are posed with that "hand gripping the vehicle for stability" pose, like on the eldar jet bikes. It would be cool if you could model infantry shooting over the side, taking cover, holding on and stuff but idk how many crew are actually coming in the box.
>>97898959not what I hate vraks is based, accept you are a marvel fag and defend that
>>97898999Naw I wouldn't hold my breath we've been 50 years without an official sentinel commander (whatever about those character creator rules)
>>97898831
>>97898660>Beyond Dark 40kSounds based to me, bald boy
>>97899007And its the new Yarrik right on top of him (though hes kind of out of frame). But to lean into the fluff of the scene the orks are a Kult of Speed, so its mounted versus mounted. So the kult is trying to blow past the enemy lines more than win in a frontal confrontation. Both sides are right where they want to be.
>>97899015
>>97899015kek
>>97898565>Heavy Lascannon>Doesn't have the heavy keyword>Has the same stats as a normal lascannon except assaultwhat?
>>97899015the poor space wolf, what did he deserve to have such a cruel owner?
>>97899019>>97899020Don’t encourage the mentally deranged with false adulations
>>97899027
>>97899033You pretending he’s cool is only going to make him act up more.
>>97899033Clean the sand from your yeast hole, you humorless bum.
>>97898109Thankfully its not true, and you just keep making it up in your head.
>>97899034Decalfag is unironically the best thing to happen to this dying board in a long time, at least this last month as the hate for him has boiled up so much it's spawned so much OC. Oc is the soul of a healthy community.
>>97899036you morons respond a dozen times to each and every one of his posts and think he is the only issue
>>97899047yea sorry, we should be having the same 5 conversations on loop instead (primaris bad, women/blacks bad, I miss templates, I miss customization, Special characters bad)
>>97899047They’re bullies, they get off on the suffering of others.
>>97899041Assuming this person is even real, and I'm not totally convinced of that, he is getting as much enjoyment out of you 'having some fun with it' than you are, if not more.
>>97899046He's a disgusting lolcow, and his presence is not a good thing and a newfag trying to retcon the literal tens of thousands of posts from him as a "good thing" when he's driven away so many good posters from this thread is whacko
>>97899041>>97899047I’m talking about the idiot making those cartoons! how slow are you people?
>>97899038 meant for >>97899027
>>97898615They aren't gay despite their superhero named after a closeted gay man.
>>97899057The only people more contemptable than lolcows are the people who enable and give them attention.
>>97899051>talking about 40k bad, what is good for the health of the thread is the same 3 guys arguing with each other, right down to the same reactions to his modelsYou are one stupid motherfucker
>>97899065>people who enableYou mean the jannies for not permabanning him?
>>97899069no, you for attacking him and thinking that makes you a hero
>light tank has 3+ save, is T8 and has 7 wounds.Unless you get turn one or have this shit hidden harder than Osama Bin Laden, any low-end anti-tank, anti-elite infantry or even bolters with re-rolls is gonna shit on it.
>>97899069Mall cop mentality.
>>97899015hah
There is no alternative to this thread. Reddit is fucking gay and the discord the goblina lesbian made does indeed post models, but you have to wade through inane foid chatter to find them. Best to accept that decalmutant is an unsightly barnacle we aren’t likely to scrape off for a while.
>>97899072Ignoring lolcows has literally never once worked in the history of this website, they're so starved for attention they'll eventually start samefagging their posts until someone else joins in anyway. Banning is the only way but with mobile internet and multiple devices it's pretty much impossible to reliably ban someone here and we're stuck with this. So again, might as well have some fun with it.
I think 10th is kind of ass, and from what I am seeing I think 11th will be slightly less ass but still ass overall.
>>97898865>90% of marine sales are newfags they don't have an army to rebuy.Oh sweet summer child
>>97899010>ESLyikers
>>97899054What do you think a lolcow is? It's a good thing to have around, it's in the name.
>>97898980That's a long tradition since the Assault Cannon was a heavy weapon and the Heavy Flamer was an Assault weapon
>>97899080agreed, but I'll take that
>>97899065nah, most lolcows are absolute psychopaths who will fuck others over, manipulate them, and even commit sexual assault if given the opportunity attention from trolls or no attention from trolls. far worse crimes than any lolcow milker could ever commit (assuming they aren’t lolcows themselves)
>>97899085No, you have lolcows contained elsewhere. you dont bring the face baiting roid chimp into your home to shit on your carpet and fuck your wife. You laugh about videos of it stealing guns from soldiers in the congo.
>>97899080>I think 11th will be slightly less ass but still ass overall.Bro story. What's your point? We all know there are better games out there. Have you tried Middle Earth?
>>97899077the discord is unironically better than this place, all it needs is off topic garbage to actually sticking to the off topic channel
>>97899079>they're so starved for attention they'll eventually start samefagging their posts until someone else joins in anyway.that’s the important part, and decalfag has been caught multiple times doing that.
>>97899098Its infested with trannies and groids and sometimes a combination of them.
>>97899102you're not very subtle, decalnigger
How come no two thread destroyers exist at the same time?
>>97899094Anon, a lolcow needs an enviorment to thrive in where it can interact with others and be harvested, which is inevitably going to be the ungatekeepable public ones. If you want decent conversation, try a website with actual jannies.
>>97899079surely he could be rangebanned only from /tg/, right? surely there can’t be too many people in his area who post in one the more obscure boards, and will meltdown if they’re rangebanned for a month or two. its honestly scaring off actual posters, and its a complete hassle for the jannies being forced to clean it up everytime he has a melty.
>>97899098It's really good other than the owner being a boxposter who is going to 100% have some kind of weird drama/melty at some point.
>>97898311>>97898313>The new vehicles are in Sentinel tier Toughness Huh, at least Melta will be dangerous unless they're doing a Toughness cut on vehicles.
>>97899119I am so tired of his constant boxposting and greymodelposting
>>97899098Half the members are brown, a couple advertise merch from le heckin antifascist vendors and there’s a high concentration of dykes and other rainbow types in it. If I wanted that experience, I’d go to plebbit.
>>97899121this post reeks of projection and mental illness
>>97899127You had to make this up because you have no models and couldn't even get in
>>97899021This is what you get when you copy AoS warscrolls instead of the superior system.
>Good Guys: Imperium, Tau, Eldar, Votann>Bad Guys: Necrons, Tyranids, Genestealers, Dark Eldar, Orks, ChaosThat simple.
>>97899127>a couple advertise merch from le heckin antifascist vendorsLike... antifa models? What does that even mean?
>>97899082Are we just gonna pretend marines haven't always and still are the prime newfag army?
>>97898971The melta-cannon is also the regular multi-melta profile so who knows.
>>97897643>>97897650THe problem is that raiders should have been 10 to a box, or 5 should have cost only like 40-50 bucks (which is still overpriced).GW is getting retardedly bold with their ripoff prices, even for them.
>>97899139Anon with the SS decals thinks being antifascist is bad and woke.
>>97899142They are, but they're also the prime everybody army, so when 80% of people play marines, and then 80% of new players are marines it's not really a case of >ooooh, everybody just plays marines when they're new.Everybody plays marines all of the time, being new has nothing to do with it.
>>97898990That picture gave me brief hope they were ditching the retarded titan bases on the Ork buggies but then I noticed that they actually hid them under the Imp Guard bases and some terrain.Seriously the biggest buff they could make to Speed Freaks would be to switch from those bases to "as model"
>>97899146I know, battletech is a bigger giveway than ss decals desu. But what are model companies selling that's antifascist?
>>97898971I really really hope, they posted the wrong weapon version. This thing not having the hellhounds melta canon, and the FoBs heavy lascanon make every gun but the vigilator suck.
>>97898573Nope. No rules whatsoever for the Annihilator. They simply forgot about it
>>97899148Point is that there's no need to force anyone to rebuy their marines because marines always sell, much less doing it by removing core units and playstyles they've been able to do for decades.
>>97899152you saw none of this because none of it happens, mutant
>>97899137kinda weird to list genestealers separately also no, I don't like it either, but dark eldar are meant to go in the good guys too now because they're relegated to the being the craftworlders' edgy little brother they're saddled with
>>97899170Dark Eldar aren't the good guys until they get shoved into the Aeldari codex. Then they can be the good guys. Until then, they are proud to be called evil.
>>97899073It has move shoot move. The real balls is they're gonna charge 70 bucks for the thing when it's 65 points at most.
>>97899174post models
>>97899164I mean Ultralesbian was the one to make it so that's not wrong, and Lamenters is a poster there. But otherwise >>97899152 is being a little hyperbolic
>>97899137DE arent evil. Not at a galactic scale.They are arch enemies of chaos.
>>9789918570 bucks seems reasonable. I'll buy 4 for my Recon Force. Calculating pts to dollars is a fools errand.
>>97899170But their whole shtick is being torture assholes.
>>97899191age of sigmar classifications are retarded.
>>97899199Well, torture is all relativeor something. They're obviously evil though, they tortured Cassia and fucked with my boy Pasqal. Got I hate Yrliet so much, she is beyond retarded.
>>97899073The armoured sentinel's tankier than this lmao
>>97899199The Imperium arrest people for jaywalking and turn them into mindless cyborgs.Everyone in the setting is torture assholes.
>>97899191They do nothing to fight chaos, they make deals with them on the regular and their entire existence revolves around extracting pain and suffering out of humans.And all this feeds slaanesh, which they're consciously choosing to do over taking any alternative like the other kinds of eldar.They're not just evil, they're hypocritical, delusional and retarded evil.
>>97899191They are not enemies of chaos lol, they are slannesh's soul farm.
>>97899199I know, but the more we move forward the more eldar are getting clumped together with the ultimate war inevitably involving them all unified under the ynnari.
>>97899219Ynnari has been memory holed and will never be relevant again, lol
What’s the best Sisters official color scheme?
>>97899228You posted it
>>97899228Valorous Heart is the most “nun-like” so I think it’s the best.
>>97899170>>97899191
>>97899202Box posting is fun thoughbeit
>>97899245>n-no m-m-modelsUh huh. I spoke no word of a lie, you embarrassing bitch.
>>97899152Sounds based, I might have to join after all. Can’t be worse than this shitshow.
>>97899136What is an inversion beamer?
the real story of 40k is order vs chaos, with races aligned with order against the forces of chaos and destructionchaos is chaos, orks, crons and nids are destructionorder is imperium, tau, eldar, votanndeldar are the token evil teammate for order
>>97899255>>97899265be less obvious
>>97899196I want to get 6 so I can run them in teams as part of a cavalry regiment.
>>97899268This place is reddit junior now, anon.
>>97899267Actually, it's about humanity and its fight for survival in an unforgiving universe
>>97899259the opposite of a conversion beamer
>>97899271I already have two Salamanders so I'll proxy them once the legends rules get squatted
>>97899228I'm biased to the Ebon Chalice
>>97899267Not even remotely true, it's mankind in a hostile galaxy beset by threats of every possible type.
>>97899303>>97899306You girls are tweakin today, relax ffs
>>97899313your HFY headcanon is not the truth, decalnigger
>>97899320Retard
>>97899267xenosfag cope
>>97899191>Arch enemies of chaos>Spend their entire immortal lives feeding 3/4 of the chaos gods to delay their souls from getting blended into a protein shake for another day
>>97899336yes you started browsing after hearing about 4chan during the 2016 election we already knew that
>>97899336Your scapegoat doesn't exist /pol/troon
>>97899250Dark Eldar are evil but I don't think you can really call them the most evil. They're not an existential threat to anyone really.
>>97899228their is a reason OML is the box art
>>97899359>Like every fandom or website they infest, they rush into the space as new arrivals and then insist they were always the dominant culture in said space.That's literally what you're doing lmao
all of you are retards, 4ch never leaned anywhere other than being contrarian to what's popular
>>97899372nuh uh
>>97899356Evil and existential threat are different things. A meteor hitting earth is less evil than the average American for example.
The mogging on May 1st will be unreal.
>>97899380I got bored of the collage this month. I’d rather work on my army than put in effort to dunk on a coping retard like decalfag.
>>97899387I'm putting more effort into my collage model than any before in my life. Such is the power of hate.
yhe overall quality of the thread is currently at rock bottom
What's the most broken Aspect Warrior/Phoenix Lord on the table atm and what's the rarest to see someone bring with them? Also, am I able to replace an Exarch of say Howling Banshees with Jain Zarr instead? And can they also be my Warlord?
>>97899398Can you leave?
>>97899398shame the janny that was nuking the thread lately is not around
If any painters and model owners want an escape heres the link to the 40kg painter's discord. It has no mutants and no secondaries. https://discord.gg/ejaDHkwPHn
>>97899423nta but theres only one problem here and it's (You)
>>97899423There is exactly one pro mutant poster
They should bring back vehicle crews.
>>97899416any weird displays of loyalty required to join? like condemning hitler?
>>97899423kill all furries and sloppers
>>97899434nope. literally only requirement is to post your models with time stamp once you're in and you're good to go
>>97899411Speak of the devil
>>97899161No that's dumb as fuck, every single time they release a "new and improved" marine kit all the marinefags I know instantly buy multiple boxes of them. I have multiple people in my hobby group that had multiple land speeder, bought multiple Storm Speeders and are now looking at the previews drooling at the mouth for the new Land Speeder. Every time GW renakes the Marines a shitload of Marinefags that otherwise wouldn't be interested in other armies instantly rebuy their army. That's a level of sales they can't get from just newfags. And that's the reason they are remaking Marines a third time in ten years.
Kek
>>97899442thank the heavens
>>97899434I say nigger and talk shit about troons regularly, it's fine, there's just a shit ton of off topic in general
bros do i buy the emp's children or the black templars combat patrol
>>97899452bt and it's not even close
>>97899433Agree. I have a bunch of cadian tank crew on foot models. I thought to suggest a houserule to my regular opponent like crew surviving on a 4+ (unless vehicle explodes) but leman russes have 6 crew members while tau tanks have like 1
>>97899452Bruh EC all the way, that green/pink/black color combo is legit primo kino bambino.
>>97899443>and are now looking at the previews drooling at the mouth for the new Land Speeder.You're just proving my point that marines will sell anyways.
>>97899375Whatever country you live in (probably the UK) is more evil than America.
>>97899467Stop ban evading pedo
>>97899476Huh?
>>97899460Give the T'au crew some drone mechanic/assistant and a better weapon
>people trying to scalp gundamnsWhat's funny is I have an older version of this same model.>>97899452>>97899453>>97899467Do you love skinning people alive nad grinding them into cocaine or do you love skinning people alive and grinding them int corpse powder for the emperor
>>97899408No you don't replace the exarch, the phoenix lord attaches to a squad of their aspect. They can be warlords I think.Lhykis, Fuegan, Baharroth and Jain Zar all see play. Maugan Ra rarely. Asurmen isn't used because dire avengers are overcosted. Karandras is legendsed
>>97899472>GW release a Land Speeder >Marine players buy Land Speeders>Marine players don't buy anymore Land SpeedersVs>GW release a Land Speeders>Marine players buy Land Speeders>GW release Land Speeder+>Marine Players rebuy their Land Speeders>GW release Land Speeder++>Marine Players rebuy their Land Speeder againHow is this hard to understand
>>97899521Those are different units my dude.
are metallic paint markers bait for trimfuck ahriman for making rubric marines btw
>>97899485i'm drawn to both aesthetics equally, unfortunately. i don't want to buy both...
>>97899568Go with the EC, newer models and just a wild lookin scheme.
>>97899521I want a land speeder but I don't want a storm speeder and I'll wait to see if the land speeder kit is goodt. marine(not)pig
>>97899565What is this goofy shit?
>>97899097NTA but yes I have. I started playing it a few months ago and have fallen in love. Pic related, my brave dwarves fighting the cruel Easterling horde
>>97899568>>97899582Buy both sell half of each boom easy.
>>97899474There are like 3 countries in the world that even come close, lol
>>97899597Are you the goteslopper or the nurgle cloneslopper?
>>97899592Have you never seen warhammer fanart before?
Post your WIPs
>>97899597fuck off with your off topic garbage, gotenigger
>>97899615Shameful I know, hopefully do something this weekend.
>>97899619so totally blue pilled it's not worth trying to helpim american btw
>>97899620
>>97899619>Morally equating killing gypsies to occupying a land against the will of it's native peopleI wonder who us behind this post.
>>97899628
ooo Valrak is live, lets see what juicy rumors he's got today.
>>97899620Your moldlines, bro...
>>97899648I fixed those all up already, its an older picture
>>97899543>T. GW
>anyone posts models >met with vitriol Great community
>>97899658Anon anyone that would buy both storm speeders and updated regular speeders would have bought both anyways. There's no need to remove regular speeders from the game first.
>>97899673>anyone
>>97899673It actually is a fantastic community and free space, we just gotta put up with a few nomodels trolls is all.
>>97899673Not anyone. Just a specific dude.
>>97899673kys you fat autist!
>>97899718Shes got huge fuggin hands, that tiddy grab tho
>>97899657Can you post an updated picture?
>>97899673Why do you think this place is dying?
>>97899615
>>97899729Its not tho, we have a massively active community here of top tier hobbyists and lore aficionados.
>>97899707I admire this level of innocence but that's straight up false. We have known for decades from interviews and similar that each time GW redoes an old kits the sales are a lot lower than that of new kits. A thing that has been solved by making the updated kit different enough to pretend it's totally a new unit guys, so they can squat the old kit, force people to rebuy everything, and then redo the same thing a few years later.
>>97899743post models. oh wait, you cant because your post will get deleted. :)
>>97899756I just posted them like 5 min ago, who do you think you’re talking to?
>>97899737Nice modelSoft and erotic hand
>>97899743The stats don't lie anon. Posts have been dwindling here for years.
>>97899745How many armies with old necrons or old CSM do you see these days?
>>97899768T…thanks
>>97899769Nobody with actually well painted models wants to be associated with this place and that's before even mentioning all the shitposting.
>>97899795Stop being so negative, jeez
>>97899804stop ban evading
>>97899804Fuck off decalnigger
>>97899795Actually that's wrong because I've seen lots of talented people that go to my LGS post here which is a big surprise to me anyway.
>>97899615Working on the krieg combat patrol >>97899737Looking good anon
>>97899743how blind you must be to make this cope?
>>97899341>Inquisitor Huemac demanded his attendants have hips at least four hand spans wide
>>97899774From people that actually owned them before the new kit came out? A bunch. You don't see them much in absolute terms because the amount of people that started Necrons in Indomitus is a lot higher than the amount of old players, and even old players got a lot of the new warriors while buying Indomitus for other units. And they still gave the new Warriors a completely new weapon 90% of the time better than the old one. But for example 90% of the Necron player I know that had the old Monolith didn't bother with the new one.
One day I'll go through my bits box and make some interesting bases.
>>97899817At the end of the day there aren't many communities for the hobby online where you can speak/post freely without having to worry about overly sensitive mods and faggots in general. It comes at a cost of also having some shitposters. But ill take shitposters being able to freely speak, instead of everyone being policed by people who are wanna be HR faggots.
>>97899743Most of the top tier hobbyists that posted here either post very little or stopped posting here altogether. You're coping because you can't go to any other hobby space without getting kicked out
>kill team version of a normal unit>check its profile>realize I can just use -normal unit's- leftover weapons on the sprue and probably heads too and slap them on the KT bodies since the datasheet is nondescriped and just says "guns and melee weapons" instead of their super special agent weapons like Gorgraxian needle gun or whatever.
>>97899832They're still on the board, just not in this cesspool containment general.
>>97899831
>>97899840yeah I meant this general specifically
>>97899847ah, my mistake.
>>97899833But even more than that- I can literally buy the team and sell the models while keeping the extra bits to outfit on cheap bodies from a bitz seller, making the bodies 'pay for themselves'.
>>97898311>Firing Deck 12 >Transport capacity 12 This thing is just going to be ablative armor for Heavy Weapons Teams.
>>97899826So you don't need to completely redesign the army to sell updates, you just need to make the updates worth buying by making them look better or having new options.
>>97899831I'm of the same mind, but that's just why I prefer 4chan overall to any other community besides my friends and acquaintances, there's awesome discussion to be had here but you have to put a lot of time and experience into it.
>>97899881Absolutely
>>97899864Anon how many Necron players you think would be buying a new Necron Warrior kit if it came out tomorrow?How many Chaos players you think would be buying new Legionaries if they came out next month?Also>you just need to make the updates worth buying>JustCompared to simply not bothering to do that. You know how many BA players bought the new shitty sanguinary guards?
>>97899890all of them because marinepigs will eat up whatever slop GW serves them
>>97899881While I agree there are some good generals on 4chan but /40kg/ is definitely not one of them lmao
>>97899341omg is this the ed, edd and eddy girls as sororitas
>>97899902Because Marines in this setting are giant incredibly bad ass alien curbstompers
>>97899902Marinepigs keep our game alive so im grateful
>>97899862>mfw you missed
>>97899862All autocannons, all day.
>>97898311>put a tow hook on it>"cannot transport artillery models"FW was king. FW remain king.
>>97899862correct, they literally said that in the community article you just read. that is intentional.
>>97899890Those are stupid questions because both got an update at most 5 years ago. Devastators, which is what was the original topic, are 13 years old already. That kit was pretty much identical to the previous one, from 4th edition (so around 9 years old by the time it was updated) and was only 3 years old when primaris came out and GW basically killed all firstborn kits to irrelevance by hiding them from promotional material and with shit rules. What part of this makes it a necessity to squat devastators and replace them with erradicators?
>>97899902It may sound ridiculous nowadays but back in the days Marine players were a lot more selective and were used to just buy a bunch of extremely cheap tacticals on eBay to kitbash in their units of choice instead of just consuming. Which is another reason Primaris were created.
>>97898306kek my Gladiator Executioner would bop that toy in a turn.
>>97899909You're largely right but I've gotten good advice from this general before and have had some worthwhile discussions.
>>97899919Fair.
>>97899932
>>97899942Those tacticals had to be sold first and the weapons had to come from somewhere so this isn't really losing GW any sales.
GW should just wipe all Primaris lore from existence. Retcon it, say they are all firstborn, and just call it what it is, scale creep. Which is fine. Everyone would be happy. Get rid of the ugly ass floating tanks too.
>>97899955>here's my Centaur proxy
Man that new named character diversity hire was so painfully supposed to replace Yarrick. How last minute do you guys think the setting was changed to Armageddon for the launch box? 1 year?
>>97899974That doesn't fix the retarded new units or the stupid longer guns.
>GW makes a model a woman >endless crying what causes this
>>97899955>>97899975Now all we need is an update for Catachan models.
>>97899987>GW makes a model an *UGLY* woman>endless cryingFixed
>>97899941>What part of this makes it a necessity to squat devastators and replace them with erradicators?The part where almost nobody who already had the 4th edition Devastator kit bought the 6th edition one, while most people who had a Devastator kit still bought Eradicators.And this despite the fact that the 6th edition devastator kit was the only source of the extremely pushed at the time Grav Cannons.>>97899960Tacticals were a dime a dozen because every marine box had shitload of them, and every person who started marines only to paint a model and drop the hobby sold them for pennies. >the weapons had to come from somewhereYeah, and that wasn't most of the times new kit. Even before 3d printing people found ways that weren't paying GW for an overpriced finecast resin kit with bended lightning claws (pic related). Have you idea of the sheer amount of guides on the internet that taught you how to convert a weapon into another?
>>97899990Vostroyans first please.
>>97899987GW doesn't make women, only he-mans with wigs
>>97900000quints of truth
>>97900000Digits
>>97900000FUCKING TRUTH NUKE
>>97899987Have you not noticed that a majority of new named character are women and minorities? Do you think this is an accident?
>>97899997>The part where almost nobody who already had the 4th edition Devastator kit bought the 6th edition one, while most people who had a Devastator kit still bought Eradicators.Because the 6th edition kit was the fucking same. That doesn't mean they have to remove devastators from the game, it means they need to make a good kit. People bought erradicators because they are fucking busted and devastators have had shit rules since 8th.
>>97899987haha
>>97900014just paint them white, you snowflake
>>97900000Only Fantasy is allowed to have good looking woman. Any of the main pillar games MUST be made for the " modern audience ".
>>97900016>Because the 6th edition kit was the fucking sameAnd this answer your question about why they needed to completely redesign the army. >it means they need to make a good kitThe problem with this is that the 4th edition one was already a good kit.
>>97900024Noticing is being a snowflake. If it isn't such a big deal, why are they pushing it?
>>97900029>And this answer your question about why they needed to completely redesign the army.Every other fucking army in the game was in the exact same position and still got faithful updates.>The problem with this is that the 4th edition one was already a good kit.Except the fact that the marines were still in the wrong scale. Which the 6th edition kit also didn't fix.
>>97900034Crying like a little bitch on an anonymous forum is snowflake behaviour, yes.
>>97900044I am not crying, I am pointing out the obvious push that is happening. While you are trying to downplay it for some reason. Answer the question. Why are they doing it?
>>97900024Body shape/phenotype and just straight up not being the preferred gender prevents this pretty handily actually. Kind of baffled this constantly gets presented as a solution when it isn’t one.
>>97900048What's your conspiracy theory? James Workshop is actually a jewish space lizard trying to replace the white race through plastic toys?You're a little snowflake crying over miniatures, go be a politician if you want to try to change something instead of crying like a bitch on an anonymous forum.
>>97900044the original post is more toned to be mockery than complaining desu. especially because the subject matter is clearly GW backpedaling from killing off Yarrick and doing the same thing they did with Creed.
>>97900059>strawman>projectingAnswer the question I am asking for the third time. Why do you think they are pushing it?
>>97900064Because their model designers felt like making those characters.Now answer my question.
>>97900059>go be a profession that historically accomplished nothingSpiritually British hands types this
>>97900040>Every other fucking army in the game was in the exact same position and still got faithful updates.Other armies aren't expected to sell as much as Marines. Marinefags bankroll all the other armies. Or are you so delusional you think the new Fire Dragons sold a tenth of what the Eradicator kit sold? >Except the fact that the marines were still in the wrong scale. Which the 6th edition kit also didn't fix.Do you really believe that people would have rebought their devastators because the new ones were 2mm taller?
>>97900075>Now answer my questionnta but post your Lamenters
>>97899998Nah Catachan need it, Vostroyans still look good if you can acquire their models.
>>97900081I'm not a marinepig, sorry.
>>97900075I don't have a conspiracy theory. I know it's because there is a mandated ESG corporate push to " diversify " products. The companies that invest into GW have mandates that they push onto GW and other corporations they invest into that force them to make a certain number of non white and non male characters/representatives. It's not a theory, it's written into their mandates in plain English. It's 100% a top down forced diversity by extremely wealthy people to try and force perspective changes upon the middle and lower classes. As they explicitly say it is.
>I don't have a conspiracy theory>posts conspiracy theory
>>97900079I'm saying that marines sell anyways, so they are the last ones that would need a complete redesign to keep selling.>Do you really believe that people would have rebought their devastators because the new ones were 2mm taller?Anon. All the new CSM are just that. Yes. It's not 2mm it's a full fucking head.
>>97900100Actually the explicit reason for it is so that niggers and liberals don't burn down their stores during a chimp out.
warhammer forty thousand amirite
>>97900000THIS.
>>97900100Remind me again what perspective they are trying to change and why that's supposed to be a bad thing?
>>97900075yesthe model designers just all of a sudden decided to change a part of the lore for no reason at the exact same time the other corporations are doing the same thing in almost the exact same waytotally wasn't just a bunch of marketers that think Twitter and Bluesky are the real world
>>97900121You know these corporations, including GW, explicitly talk about what I wrote right? This is from the last investors report.
>>97900100>>97900141>>97900144So what's the end goal of all these changes they're pushing, anon?Surely in your mind they must be trying to accomplish something by doing it. So what are they trying to do?
What an awful thread. It’s always the same people that make it awful too.
this is why I don’t play ‘umie factions. don’t gotta deal with any of this bullshit when you like orks :D
>>97900151>So what's the end goal of all these changes they're pushing, anon?there is no end goalthe end goal is to generate controversy and virtue signalthese people aren't smart, they don't have a plan, they just abuse the paltry amount of control they have over others
>>97900151I don't really know or care to speculate. I am only calling out that there is a top down push for DEI through ESG mandates in the corporate world. Including explicitly in GW. What I do care about is that the mandate makes the setting and games worse by virtue of its causal effect on new additions to the lore.I ask you again. For the fourth time that you continue to ignore. Why do you think it's happening?
>>97900026damn thats so cool....
>>97900163>I'm just *tips fedora* asking questions ;^))))))Sure, buddy. Whatever you say.
>>97900169not an argument troonlord
>>97900126Ok I'll humour you. Let's pretend GW released a true scale Devastator kit in 2015 that sold gangbusters despite being the old one but taller. How are they redoing the Devastator kit in 2017 to sell it to people who bought the 2015 kit?And in 2020?What about 2023?And the new Devastator kit in 2026?
>>97900171its like ram and rem :)
>>979001694 times I asked you the question. You have ignored me every time. You called me a conspiracy theorist, then I showed you that GW themselves explicitly agree with what I said they are doing. Now you resort to insults. Melty much?
>>97900191r'am and r'em
after triumphing in a mighty battle as a mercenary to the grandfather, the Friend of War was gifted with a skillful panel depicting it's heraldry of a Horned Frog on field of blood in the medium of mold art by the skilled nurglite artist Aramis Lorak
>>97900151>If you can't know for certain why people are acting a certain way then you can't point at the fact that they are acting a certain whyWhat kind of incredibly retarded goalpost moving is this
>>97900197>Nurgle Culture>Mold ArtDamn, you come up with that? That's clever.
>>97900018god damn, she not only gained an extra dimension, she gained an extra chromosome
>>97900197Utterly grotesque. 11/10.
>>97900151>So what's the end goal of all these changes they're pushing, anon?so what is the goal? is there really an untapped market out there for these changes? changes require energy, so presumably the intend to recoup the costs. where is the money for that going to come from?
>>97900151distract from class warfare. enshittify products under on the surface good reasoning like anti-racism and feminism which causes conservative people to shit on corporations which results in progressive people to implicitly defend those corporations. diversity being so front and center in everything also causes progressives internally to begin infighting, and distracting themselves from their greater goals.
>>97900205I was playing with paint and realized that dabbing ak paint (not other brands for whatever reason) on a wet surfaces causes it to bloom out in an interesting way that looks a bit like mold growth or weird warp patterns.
>>97900197you sicken menice work
>>97900251It really is impossible to discuss anything with these people because every word out of their mouth comes out in bad faith.
>>97900251>I hate to go off topichow is it possible for someone to have so little self-awareness LMAO
Has there been a character in 40k that's similar to Sgt Johnson from Halo?
>>97899890>>97899864Also the new necron combat patrol is so fucking bad lmao>ebay resale value of contents: 175 bucks>ebay price: 144 bucksThe old box >230 bucks ebay resale valueIt's hard to understate how many of the new combat patrols are just bad fucking value.
>>97900275
>>97900275whoever this dude is of course both are just Carl Weathers in space.
>>97900283New combat patrol boxes are just "what shit do we have taking up space in the warehouse?"
>>97900275>>97900287>>97900289https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txuWGoZF3ew
>>97900287>>97900289pisses me off to no end how the rumor engine of an imperial power fist ended being wielded by some literal who commissar rather than being part of a catachan kill team.
>>97900287>>97900289Why do I get the feeling if they decided to make this an a named character with a book series, it'd be the only time a black character that isn't a Salamander that people would like?Speaking of black, do people even like the black Alpha Legion MC from Mike Brooks Alpha Legion books? He's rumored to be 2026's Black Library model.
you know what's actually funny about carl weathers/sarge from halo/catachan colonel? His design is more similar to the Spacenam guys than the actual catachans, sine he wears armour instead of just using his pecs to deflect tyranid spores or bullets.
>>97900319You’d have to be a special kind of person to read a Mike Brooks book. As bad as some anons are here, I don’t think anyone here is that far gone
>>97900323Never gonna get over how people complain about melanated model in this set.
>>97900292the flip side is that the DG combat patrol is objectively superior to their previous one.
>>97900328I haven't picked up one of books before but I'm more upset he made the last 2 Eldar and Dark Eldar books.
>>97898376>WIPare you gonnaget that big fat fuck with the genestealer arms from necromunda?
>>97899615>WIPKill Team: Tarellian Scouts/Tarellian Kinband.
Remember that golden totally not a trial run for the emperor mummy guy from necromundawhatever happened to him
>>97900331The last one had a better discount and was better as a one off purchase.
>>97900338Do you really believe that if GW ever released the emperor it would be in corpse version instead of glorious golden uberchad?
>>97900342I don't consider any box that has chaff like poxwalkers or jakhals to be a decent box even if there are 'people' who like to run a cultist horde instead of a real army.
>>97900338he took over necromunda and is looking to kill off the rival houses.
>>97900344I mean in a lore sense his whole shtick sounded like he was like a beta version of big E
>>97900323>he wears armour instead of just using his pecs to deflect tyranid spores or bullets.so like the Officer in the Catachan Command Squad?
>>97899998>>97900086god please dont let them "fix" my beloved first born
>>97900347>nooo you have to run space marines only for it to be a real army! Bitch, space marines shouldn’t even be a sole army to begin with. In an ideal world you would be forced to take either scouts or cadians in your army to take up a single basic bitch tactical. That’s me being lenient on them because they’re loyalists, chaos should rely on chaff more. Have it as its bedrock even.
>>97900365Can I see some photos of your first born?
>chuddies really think blackrock is forcing diversity on companies they own like 1% of the shares ofLolGW is run by working age british people. The under 50s here vote like 20% for the right and 80% for the left
>>97900372True, Tau drone zergrush was 100% valid. And when Ultramarines get Militia/serf support units and somehow GW unbalances the game, clearly it will be valid to run a horde of them too. I also definitely want a bunch of chaff shit that sucks in a big discord box, especialyl when it's already cheap outside of the box, instead of something good. Thank you for informing me that running horde lists of garbage is based and valid.
>>97900373Image limit, I’ll post in the next one
>>97900086Catchans dont need to exist really, they're a movie reference that is no longer relevant.
>>97900372>In an ideal world you would be forced to take either scouts or cadians in your army to take up a single basic bitch tactical.I didn't even read your post but you are actually retarded.
>>97900287CATACHAD
>>97900372Trvke.
>>97900379Grim
in an ideal world all the irrelevant guard regiments would just get dedicated kill teams instead of them making the 1964345843rd Cadian "Cumsock" Squad make their epic debut
>>97900392Glad to see you understand little Mr waac fag. Now never talk about what a proper army should look like before gw introduces something like old ones which runs less models than what custodes or knights or even a ctan spam list has.
>>97900397you wish fag, they will update it and will be better than WW 2 references they are currently selling for some adolf enthuisasts
>>97900372Sounds AWFUL mate, what the hell are you saying.
>>97900400Okay Mr marine piggy.
>>97900409i agree, we could put resources into more interesting things than "soldier but in this particular style"
>>97899073>>97899206Move shoot move means it's always obscured unless the opponent comes to it.
If you kick Marinefags out of this game how you would keep it alive? Think about it...
>>97900372loyalists marines should be their own army, but chaos marines shouldnt be, chaos marines should basically all be chosen+ tier and act as heavy infantry for a Daemon world list.
thank god none of you retards actually have any influence over 40k
>>97900418Actual list building rules, and for armies to actually look like armies instead of complete jokes. Seeing nothing but marines on a table is disguting, something needs to break up how artificial an all marine army looks and needs something else to highlight how “heroic” marines are.
>>97900438And what army would kick us out of the game lol? bunch of bird chested xenoqueens won't do a thing.
>>97900446Fuck off decalcunt
>>97900471>>97900471>>97900471
>>97899673people are being toxic on my 4chins???
