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>>97909996>TQKrieg suicide and gas mask and shovel memes.I think the Kriegers do want to die but not in vain for the Emperor. I'm not sure how all these theories spring up and spread about.I think Forge World's guard side of their Imperial Armour books may be why there is "realism autism" among guard players that spread to the rest of 40k because FW dared to entertain the idea of vehicles that would make sense in 40k like recovery tanks and power lifter sentinels etc.An unintended and unforeseen consequence of great ideas to be honest.
>>97909996I like orks :D
>>97909982>>97909922Pragmatically, I think it's because they are very hard to play, very hard to paint, very expensive (the most?), and a low impact player in the storyand they are lot the lookers too though I don't know if it's important in that game
>>97910010A lot of the stuff felt like thematic stuff for dioramas, terrain and decorative bits that was given rules.
post models
Are the Headtaker Hunting Wolves similar in size to Fenrisian Wolves?
>>97910044Those aren't canon anymore.
>>97910050don’t matter the size, I’m going to use the same drill for their buttholes anyway.
>>97910057NTA butProofs that they aren't canon?I don't think not being mentioned post FW's death counts.
>>97910045the big genestealer
>>97910068was he thinking?
>>97910079Getting more genussy
>>97910079He thinking about he's not actually stealing genes, he's giving his own away to the needy (busty human women he kidnaps)
>>97910045a wip
>>97910079he's telling people to enjoy prison
>>97909996>TQGulliman x Yvraine
>>97910010>>97910044Was it basically a coin toss between Forge World being really terrible for the most part or being really good for the most part?Granted FW did have some fumbles. In lore and resin quality but I think that is mostly GW's fault on the resin part.My biggest gripe was FW's HH continuing the notion that the MK2 power armor helmet is in a fixed position when that is arguably the most ignored 30k/40k fluff "fact." I genuinely believe that it would be one of the few things where the grand majority of 40k fans across all places would not care if the fixed position of the MK2 helmet got retconned away.The other big one was the upside down Space Wolf bolter. >Pic relatedAnybody got the screencap of anons reacting to the space wolf bolter and GW's poor defence of it, pretty please?
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>>97910156Even GW ignored the MkII helmet back in the day. 7e Armour Cards mention the suit had limited movement on the helmet and I'm positive I read in one of the black books that early MkII had fixed helmets.
>>97910183>Even GW ignored the MkII helmet back in the dayI have a feeling that there will still be some die hard HH fans that will lose their minds if the MK2 fixed helm gets retconned away. I think it already is but just hasn't been confirmed in official writing.I'm not gonna judge because my army is guard and we have our own rivet counting autism.
>>97910168based bookshelf displayer
>>97910199Nice blue orks.It's a bookshelf but with glass doors to minimise dust
>>97910207smart, I’m getting one with a door soon because I hate seeing my boyz literally collecting dust.
>>97910198> there will still be some die hard HH fansAnd we'll weep for the both of them once they die of the butt hurt.
When are we getting new Mk IX armor?
>>97910067>Proofs that they aren't canon?GW has been going around undoing anything Forge World did, like taros and betalis. The centaur literally just got retconned into being a half-track, so the original doesn't exist anymore. The atlas and other stuff are probably safe, until GW realizes they exist.
>>97910283>GW has been going around undoing anything Forge World didWhat's the reason for why if they really are?Maybe jealousy of FW doing great things? It genuinely puzzles me why GW would undo so much of FW's stuff as they should milk FW's stuff for money primarily. Which I think they are with HH and plastic Kriegers.>like taros and betalisHow did they do it?>The centaur literally just got retconned into being a half-trackThis is copium and I won't hide it. I think the RSV "separates" it from the Centaur Carrier (forge world) and the Centaur AFV which I think is a White Dwarf conversion. That said I see your point.
>>97910283>centaur literally just got retconned into being a half-trackI'm glad FW doesn't do something like that, taking the name of something that existed before and make it into a completely different thing...
>>97910312Don't the AFV designations after the mythological beast name signify some leeway to how they are different vehicles rather than a retconned vehicle redesigned and reimagined?
>>97906766>The elves together are the third most played faction, what
>>97910310>Maybe jealousy of FW doing great things?This is my belief, yes. It all happened after Alan Bligh died, and Forge World got reorganized into Specialist Games so they couldn't intrude on the "real" game again.>taros and betalis>How did they do it?Taros was undone in Air War, where the glorious aircraft of the Imperium destroyed the inferior tau aircraft, and regained the planet. No need for ground forces. Betalis was undone in white dwarf, where the Imperium sent another army as the eldar were leaving, completely destroying the shadow spectres and their phoenix lord, thus preventing the perfidious aspect from ever spreading off world and consigning them to oblivion. Now you don't have to worry and can focus on buying REAL aspects!>This is copium I can concede that vehicles could share designation, but I know there will be people who will say "this is the only REAL centaur" and they're the same ones who won't let me use my krieg centaur because it got legend'd. I admit I didn't know about the 4wheel centaur, which I guess evolved into the Hippogriff.
>>97910332A three letter suffix makes it ok, you say...
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>97909893Those dudes in cloaks look pretty good though. I like regular ad mech a lot but they clearly need some more love. The HH models would largely complete the faction.
>>97910359>Taros was undone in Air WarThank you.>they're the same ones who won't let me use my krieg centaur because it got legendThat always annoys me. Especially when it is in casual play.>>97910367Yes the 3 letters after the word Centaur can make a big difference. It may have been GW throwing a bone to those who enjoyed the previous centaur models to signify they are not totally invalidated.But the chances of that being true are very small.I don't hate the new centaur. I like it. I just prefer tanks over wheeled vehicles. I also like the Taurox's 4 treads that a lot of hobbyists replaced with wheels when they could.
>>97910388>I also like the Taurox's 4 treads
>>97910045Collage WIP
>>97910310>>97910359To me it all comes to the current rebranding that's going on when it comes to FW. They are erasing everything to go under the "Warhammer (tm)" umbrella. FW was a acquired company getting absorbed like Citadel.
>>97910407>we are doing revisionist history with FW to try and paint them as victims
>>97910445You better substantiate this claim that FW was legitimately bad if that's what you're implying.With sources too.
Getting into 10th after years away. Am I understanding vehicles and knights and monsters correctly?>small foot soldiers charge knight or monster>if the knight or monster moves it counts as retreating and can't shoot?>if it doesn't move, it is -1 to shoot everything but can't shoot the engagement range models?I do not understand the thinking with this. Am I missing some stratagem or something because this seems so awkward to me that a tank or walking war machine would care and could just move backwards and shoot like normal.
>>97910456go back and look at the Imperial Armor books before the heresy, and then look at what units are legal in the heresy. Now look at how sanguinary guard were treated in heresy 1.0FW treated any historical period worse than how GW treats the modern setting; they were extremely territorial
Why is Deathwatch so unpopular?
>>97910464You can shoot the models within engagement range, you just still have the -1. The one caveat is you can't shoot blast weapons into the melee you're a part of. It is indeed a bit shitty that you can't have the vehicle fall back from combat and then shoot.
Why are there so little fat bastards model wise?
>>97909996>TQThe Imperium are evil and the bad guys, while the Xeno Tau are the good guys.Also nice art; it's been a while since I saw a Lho stick in a 40k piece of art, shit they're completely dissapear from IM's armoury, alongside the drugs and alcohol.
>>97910491Locking vehicles down is something that I think should be possible, itd be a nice property to give the chainfist
What is the best Chaos Knight
>>97910510there's a whole two of them anonflip a coin
>>97910479There are like 3 kits and they very nearly got squatted recently. The real question is why they aren't just a detachment in the regular marine codex.
>Crucible of Champions makes kitbashing legal>but not for tournamentsIf the rules are good, shouldn't they be allowed in tournaments? The only reason to disallow a rule or set of rules is because they're shitty rules. Why pay GW for shitty rules though? We can make up shitty rules ourselves.
>>97910472>go back and look at the Imperial Armor books before the heresyI don't have the PDFs :( I want them. All of them. Even the masterclass painting guides.>Now look at how sanguinary guard were treated in heresy 1.0ForgeWorld's greatest strength to me was fluff and model design. I wonder if the high price was to prevent the models from being too common.>FW treated any historical period worseAny examples comparing FW to GW directly?>they were extremely territorialKind of like how GW likes to keep HH and 40k model usage separate with rare exceptions like the Custodes?Sorry I'll admit I primarily like FW for their designs and somehow making the HH cool, but I think that was mostly Alan Bligh's magic that carried FW.
>>97910491Thanks. I guess I should be happy it's just -1, but man it feels so pathetic the 80 foot tall death machine can't move back 10 feet and not shit its pants. But also my other monsters or vehicles can shoot at -1 into that fight as well? Trying to learn it so I don't flub letting chaff get too close when it can completely screws a big guy over.
>>97910568>The only reason to disallow a rule or set of rules is because they're shitty rulesNo, the only reason to disallow them is if they are perceived as "unbalanced". Many a game both traditional and vidya was ruined by competitive players crying about what is "fair".
>>97910568>Crucible of Champions makes kitbashing legal>but not for tournamentsA cruel tug of war between GW trying to appeal to both the casual wargaming scene and waacfag tournament autists.Honestly I'd hate being a rules writer for GW. Everything scrutinized and then autists picking apart everything and then having to rush out FAQs.No wonder GW just says a Warhammer team is about the rules if I remember correctly.
>>97910479You know how everyone says Admech and Genestealer Cults are super expensive and that's part of why they're not popular? Deathwatch, when made wysiwig, is by far the most expensive Army in the game because you need to put two or more kits together for every unit.
>>97910579The Crucible of Champions rules are surprisingly tame with only a few broken outliers from what I've seen. I have also seen a couple community-made patch lists fixing up or expanding the rules to make them more fair and more comprehensive for all the armies.
>>97909996>What lore beliefs held by fans that are incorrect with 40k lore do you hate the most?Any negative opinions towards Gambits. Yes, this is a lore belief.
>>97910571>Kind of like how GW likes to keep HH and 40k model usage separate with rare exceptions like the Custodes?FW is the one who in modern day, refuses to give rules for shield captains to be in Terminator armor or on bikes
>CSM legionnaires stuck at the post officeI want to build 40k, but all i have is storm troopers and gundam :(
>>97910585Genestealers had one of the best combat patrols for starting an army until recently, which made them a bit more affordable.
Anything in the lore of 40k where a fight played out like this?
>>97910589>I have also seen a couple community-made patch lists fixing up or expanding the rules to make them more fair and more comprehensive for all the armies.>The community is actually making rules for mainline 40k >GW isn't stopping thisWhat's going on? Are prominent collectives coming together to "patch" the codex rules like how vidya modders patch some bug riddled vidya games?>if yesI wish them all the best and good luck and I'm not gonna interfere with their work out of fear of being the one who messes it all up.
>>97910632Angron vs Russy Bussy
>>97910635>Are prominent collectives coming together to "patch" the codex rules like how vidya modders patch some bug riddled vidya games?Not really, people are looking at the ruleset and essentially agreeing not to bring specific things.No different from Commander brackets
>>97910632>bike used as weapomLion vs. Angron using a tank>rest of the fightLion vs. Russ back and forth for days until the Lion sucker punches him and walks away. I miss the old rule of Space Wovles and Dark Angels being able to duel before a match to recreate this and get a buff for doing so.
>>97910669>the Lion sucker punchesLeman was the one that started the fight with a sucker punch, the Lion was merely returning the greeting and Russ wasn't strong enough to take it.
>>97910676I'm a Dark Angels fanboy, didn't mean it to come off as the Lion being the only bad one. Yes, Russ wouldn't shut the hell up and caused the whole thing. Still funny it was literal days of back and forth punches and fighting while their sons cheered. The Lion could have kept beating Russ but walked away after he was knocked out. You know Russ would have paraded an unconscious Lion and mocked him.
>>97909996Semi TQ related.Bolters canonically fire self propelled rounds. There shouldn't be any ejected shells or even an ejection port at all on any weapon that fires bolt rounds.
>>97909996>What lore beliefs held by fans that are incorrect with 40k lore do you hate the most?People who pretend that Fantasy Khorne is this different god to 40k Khorne
>>97910696This looks like the mouser robots front ninja turtles.
>>97910710The rockets kick in after the conventional powder charge has fired the projectile out of the barrel
Imagine shoving a bolter round up a keeper of secrets throat.
SQUAWK!!!*autistic screeching*
How do you make Tyranids more interesting than just being a horde of faceless bugs trying to eat you?
>>97910822Go full in on creature creator kitbash with tons of different adaptations created by the hivemind for different planets and specific enemies.
>>97910822How would YOU do it?
>>97910822u literally decided to pick up galactic locust and want to make them interesting. only thing intresting about tyranids is gsc
>>97910828The Tyranids start testing a new idea based on those they've been fighting, and create bugs with human intelligences to see what'll happen if you have individual consciousnesses instead of a hive mind.
>>97910822elaborate more on tyranids creating things, have them tryanoform more, explain why they don't try and farm. Maybe do something like the last shot of shin godzilla where the more nids settle down and farm the more they will adapt into something scary
>>97910842Why would they do that? The hive mind is a proven system that works for their purposes.
>>97910842"Lictors are a sinister adaptation of the Tyranid Warrior bioform, specialising in infiltration, scouting, and assassination. Hidden by their chameleonic skin, these vanguard beasts stalk their prey beyond the reach of the Hive Mind's synaptic web, leading the greater swarm to fresh targets with a potent pheromone trail. Lictors pick off their prey opportunistically, always looking for a chance to crack open an unwary skull and use their feeder tendrils to suck out the secrets within."
New Centaur/Chimera kitbash dropped, is it Mechanicus approved?
Memes aside, did anyone used to watch Tabletop Titans and stop? I liked it when it was just 3 nerds playing Warhammer. I don't mind the new girl who does the donations but when his wife is on it just feels like a way different vibe.
I painted miniatures for the first time today. I'm afraid to post. Never knew yellows and nuln oil don't mix.
>>97910479The real question is why are Custodes that popular lol
>>97910868I honestly had no idea they had their own channel. I only know the name from Titans Terrain.
>>97910875cheap army and playing an elite army feels good
>>97910871do not be afraid. post them.
>>97910822Genestelaer cults are the interesting part of bugs anon
>>97910822Polluted gene pools. Have a selection of hives who ate too much of the wrong thing too fast. Like they ate some odd combo in rapid succession or tandem like Death Guard and Orks and now they're displaying aspects of both in a stable way that is unusual for baseline Tyranids. Then maybe include some sort of assimilation where non-Tyranids/genestealer types retain a slight individuality that would allow them to be viable enough as narrative characters (i.e Human heads on Hive Tyrant bodies).
>>97910879>do not be afraid. post them.>*proceeds to roast the dude and his first time models after*based
>>97910875cheap army, easy to paint
>>97910822Just let them have way, way more customization and kitbashing, something like crucible but for units instead of characters
I can't tell what color Word Bearers use for their armor. Is it Maroon? Burgundy?
>>97910822How would GW get someone to write a book where a Tyranid Hive Fleet is the main protagonists? Is it even possible?
>>97910879>>97910886Painted in the following order: black primer, off brand metallic silver (garbo), Iron Warriors (gray), Flesh Tearers Red, Flash Gitz Yellow, Nuln Oil, Hexwraith Flame (green), and Blood for the Blood God (red). Yes, I.was the guy asking for chaos marine suggestions and got a Maulerfiend and Possessed.Time for puking pepe jpeg.
>>97910914Speaking of Tyranids and books, what book was it where the author decided to write about a Hive Ship farting?
Dave Blunts great unclean one
>>97910907yes The exact red doesn't actually matter, the Serrated Sun chapter of the Word Bearers adopted it first and other chapters copied them after Isstvan V, the exact red used will vary from chapter to chapter.
>>97910822>more interesting than just being a horde of faceless bugs trying to eat you?Once I'm done updating my Guard shooting hoard I'm going to fulfill my dream of building a Tyranid melee hoard. It will start with six maxed out groups of hormagaunts.
>>97910916take a close up picture of one SVP, your picture lacks the focus to see details on any specific model
>>97910822I've seen what happens when people try to make other factions "more interesting". No thanks, dinobugs that eat your face are enough for me, I don't need cringe bullshit named characters or complex motivations. I'm a monster nigga, I'm here to kill you and eat you and the order isn't fixed.
>>97910927I wanted to go with an IW/WB hybrid but... That didn't happen.
>>97910920>Word Bearers apparently have subfactions>They all look the exact sameHow come Black Library doesn't make books on subfactions for other factions like Chaos for example? I can't remember the last book about a subfaction from them besides the Lords of Silence.
>>97910935WTF is wrong with my phone camera?
Alien is what it is, you don't make Xenomorphs-rip off more "interesting" you just enjoy them and their corrupt human counterparts, they should be already interesting enough.
>>97910935>>97910940Here's an alt with the flash on.
>>97910946Have you tried to take a picture in the sunlight instead?
>>97910907You can use basically any shade of dark red. They're all valid.
>>97910946Let's try this again.
>>97910950Sun just set and it's been cloudy all day, no sun 4 me.
>>97910916puke pepe is posted because they hate the poster’s personality, not necessarily the models. I will say yellow CSM is very ambitious though, and because they’re CSM it doesn’t look THAT bad.
>>97910916>>97910696>>97910405>>97910199>>97910168>>97910068>>97910045Don’t post models unless if it’s inside of your fucking fridge so it can be lighted properly you frickin freaks.
>>97910946>>97910955What is this taco guacomole salad colorscheme? What's the story?
>>97910955Sorry bro I know you're a new painter but did you watch one single painting tutorial? And did you paint all of these in like 15 minutes?
>why are TS so unpopularI don't collect chaff I have a bunch of CSM stuff, got myself the RGB models for the cult flavor, then got a little extra something something on top of that. Tzeentch marines (exalted sorcs, master, terminators, robots) were the easiest to quickly catch em all while Khorne and DG have a bunch of extra shit I have yet to acquire. EC I had a plan and basically got some noise marines+used an amazon visa giftcard for the combat patrol+got a kakophonist for 70% off.Tranny sons came out in 2016, never got the BIG releases that DG subsequently got 2 years later and WE is from 2023 and EC from 2025 and newer than the other two lines. WE got 2 new kits in 2025 as well. Continuous support and updates for DG keep them fresh. TS was already a handmedown army of tzaangors and shit, uninspired, and there is no autist at gw pushing them along or have new enough units to inspire love.The sekhmet robot is a new thing but it's also a pity model. The goremongers themselves are a shame because do the WE really need a stronger version of jakhals, which are just cultists? What does that do for them? You could have instead released a kill team for TS, but GW is afraid to give them roles or specializations or create some kind of new rubrics that use khopeshes because of that one retard who keeps crying that it's a bad idea so they sit in development limbo while WE continue to get releases along the Daemonkin vein and EC will likely get a Sonic hellbrute and Death Guard with get more named characters. TS alone just keeps sucking.>>97910017GSC is lacking their own definitive thing like the cult limos.
>Really like the art of the Dark Eldar here>Was also the last ED and will likely receive their new ED in 2027 with a range refresh similar to Craftworld EldarWell that fucking sucks
>Vect gets a new model and a book attached to the release>Written by Mike BrooksHow much rage will there be?
>>97910975>kind of new rubrics that use khopeshesOkay but that’s retarded and should stay in HH only. Does absolutely nothing for the range.
>>97910980We already know they're ruining Vect anyway who cares? A fucking dragon lmao
>>97910970I wanted to do a hybrid of Irown Warriors and Word Bearers. Had IW base painted, went with the dark red which easily covered most of the silver. Thought to myself "oh, didn't think this through". After some thought I tried to use the flash gitz yellow to attempt hazard stripes but that was too thick. I then thought "fuck it, warp taint? It sorta looks like the fire in Word Bearers icons anyway" so I splashed that everywhere (was not expecting that much on the back of the Rhino). After that I slathered nuln oil and all but the thickest yellow spots got chalky, kind of sucks but then I figured "maybe a corrosion effect? It's the warp, why not? Green was used on the heads, weapons, and loinclothes. The green was going to be sorta Night Lords lightning since they're my third favorite legion, but chalky yellow bits stopped that plan. Finally blood paint for everything spiky and the melee weapons (and treads for the vehicles).
>>97910986>Skinning your enemies and torturing innocents in fucked up ways? GOOD!>The mention of slavery or sex appeal? BAD!I thought this was a US only thing, why it in UK?
>>97910959>puke pepe is posted because they hate the poster’s personalityI puke post due to the guys ego and lack of shutting the fuck up. Plus it's fun.
>>97910973I did indeed watch tutorials, I bought paints before I had an exact color scheme in my brain.
>>97910975You dont like them TS anon? How dare you?
>>97910990this post is an absolute rollercoaster to read. every time a new sentence starts it just gets more and more insane.
>>97910946>>97910955sorry anon, i would post puke pepe.jpg just for the scheme already, add to those are your first models and catastrophe is served
>>97910990I’m really confused how you did everything at once though. why didn’t you just start off with 5 dudes to see if it looked good? if you’re not, I’m sorry to accuse you, but are you fucking with us?
>>97910955There is more soul here than you will ever find in a mini that’s been airbrushed.
looking to start painting some bad moonzremember there was either a badmoon poster or an imperialfist poster a while ago that had some excellent yellow armor+paintchippingyellowanon if you're out there, please post your stuff again for me
>>97910995UK are also protestans and US is a big market
>>97911002I'm at least glad I got to paint after all these years. If you're not having fun then what's the point.>>97911001I'm aware.
>>97910998Why is there yellow and green splattered absolutely everywhere? You didn't pay attention to the details at all and just seem to have slapped everything on there with zero coordination or patience. You really need to take your time with these things and learn to paint properly. Seriously, this is catastrophically bad. These models are expensive and I don't know why you did them all at once so god damn fast and sloppy.I know you're a new painter but this is seriously the worst paint job I've ever seen, you didn't even try. The only explanation is that you have a learning disability. I know it's mean, but it's true.
>>97911006I did everything in an assembly, the models were all put together with primer for a while. After that I just assembly line painted, wait to dry, and did the next color.
>>97911000That's just an Ushabti with a gun
>>97910995American protestant puritanical tendencies were spawned from Great Britain. Granted most of the crazies left for the colonies but not all puritans left.
>>97911014its okay dude just get some stuff to remove the paint watch some tutorials and keep practicing everyone started like you
>>97910589>I have also seen a couple community-made patch lists fixing up or expanding the rules to make them more fair and more comprehensive for all the armies.Where can I find these?
>Thousand Sons are more rare than Emperor's ChildrenHow? Also, is that Combat Patrol good? The fact it has a Daemon Prince, Rubrics, etc and not a thousand Tzangors makes me think it is.
>>97910990Tzeentch has touched your heart.
>>97911036Speaking of Thousand Sons, does Ahriman have the most books out of any champion of Chaos in 40k? The fuck does Ahriman do in his books?
>>97910955haha oh wow
>>97911036The tzeentch spearhead is better imo.
>>97911041His books are awful. They exemplify why gw doesn’t know how to write tzeentch in 40k.
>>97910822Fuck off retard I don't want Nucrons 2. Let some factions be actually eldritch, the way daemons should have been.
>>97910955>spend hundreds of dollars on models>patiently build them>then do this to themYou have to be insane. You've just ruined your models for no reason. What the fuck is wrong with you? I can't get over it, this is incompetence without comparison.This is like if someone built a PC for the first time and ended up with a pile of burning scrap, then said "it's my first time!"
>>97911000GW needed to go harder.Any direction at all really would be better than the pity release which doesn't really do anything.
>>97911036EC are a new range with lots of new (2025) releases that are sleek and most importantly they have a very defined, Chaos Marine centric roster with a very obvious direction for expansion (vehicles). In fact Rhinos and Chaos Land raiders already come with Dirge Sirens so GW just has to include RULES for them to allow EC to specifically use them, the only thing they truly need besides that is a Sonic Helbrute.
>>97910955I can see some potential here anon, not bad for a first timer and can't wait to see you improve!
>>97910955Cool I guess.
>>97911011They aren't afraid of backlash from religious people, anon. These companies are still terrified of 2016 era blue hair twitter types and their weird hang-ups about sex.
>>97911067Citadel paint can easily be removed.
>>97910935>>97910946>>97910955please explain
>>97911084See >>97910990
>>97910998You clearly didn't pay attention then.
>>97910045Not models, but here’s some bases I spent the day working on for my Rubrics. Circle cut some hips sheets, then diced em up into pavers, softened em up with cement, and then pressed a sandstone block onto them.>>97910110Ahhh fresh out the wash. I get to prime my Rubrics tomorrow, looking forward to it.
>>97911083Yes, it can, but this dude is definitely going to fuck it up somehow. He's going to put them in acetone or sulfuric acid or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he needed help putting his clothes on.>>97911080>>97911081Guys... be real...
>>97911090Forgot my pic.
>>97910156Forgeworld never continued the idea that mark 2 couldn't turn it's head. The kits literally came with heads on ball joints like any other armor mark. Where did you get this idea?
>>97910955>tfw you've been telling Warhammer fans for years to paint their damn minis>suddenly this comes along>now you question if unpainted is preferable
>>97911099Can we see your models anon?
>>97910955I thought this was a poor attempt as battle ready for a tournamentbut it's not even a good competitive listwhich means this is either a big investment into trollingor you really didn't have any direction
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>>97910955I think once the basing is done things will start to fall into place with this scheme.
>>97911103>you really didn't have any directionI had a direction, but not a map.
guys... he's not fucking with us...
>>97911103>but it's not even a good competitive listWhat would you recommend?
>>97910990I mean this in the nicest possible way, I am being legitimately, 100% honest and not being mean for the sake of 4chinYou have a learning disability. Please request a monthly check from the government, you earned it.
>>97910990I’m not the best at painting either, but just some advice. think of a main color and secondary color, and go with it. as an example, you said you wanted a IW and WB hybrid? go with copper/bronze, it gives off an ancient tribal cult vibe while also being metallic. the secondary will be used for the trim, and can be dark red to stay true to the WB. there is also black, brown* and silver which will be used for any details that you think might blend in too much with your two main colors. that’s just an example, but just think up two main colors before jumping in and keep black, brown* and silver in reserve. here are my models, and although they aren’t particularly good, they still have a primary color (blue) and secondary color (green) with black, brown, and silver used wherever necessary, and a few other colors used sparingly for details that needed a distinct color.*browns should only be used for belts and pouches if you think black won’t do. most importantly, DO NOT fuck with hazard stripes or lightning bolts, when you’re this level of beginner its way too easy to fuck up, and you can always experiment later on with new models when you feel more confident. also, only paint them 1-5 dudes at a time, so you can focus on getting every detail needed. painting them in an assembly line results in sloppy work and burn out. good luck, anon, and even if you’re currently getting verbally abused right now, still don’t be afraid to post models to show progress and most importantly don’t be afraid to improve.
>>97911087I don't know what to say.
>>97910955This needs to be the OP of the next thread
>>97910955I feel so bad for people who want to get into warhammer and this happens, it makes my heart sink. I think this is the product of severe ADHD. I wish I could be there to show you how to paint in person because you absolutely need it.
>>97911125I mean it's just a clusterfuck of random stuff right nowIf you want to go Mech, ditch the Land Raider and add a Defiler and Vashtor in Pactbound
>>97910990Sounds good to me, anon. And I like the crazy look of your models.
>>97911000I dont even hate these, but they're just a weird addition to TSthe paint job doesnt help either
>>97910955>>97910990Honestly I dig it, it's a kind of prysmatic reflection from warp energies.
Did that Sisters vs Night Lords Kill Team ever release?
>>97911139>ADHDI was diagnosed when I was 5 and I've never had this kind of problem. My 'manifestation' is more like I don't have a specific chapter, I want to have a little bit of everything crossed with a larger army so I can flexibly satiate my need to flip from painting IG tanks to painting Tyranids because I would get extremely bored doing a single blue ultramarine army and just doing 10,000 points of ultramarines.
>>97910955I can understand maybe trying something new and messing up, even to this degree, on one test model. But why would you do the same thing to the entire army? Was there no "back to the drawing board" moment?
>>97911167With Chaos, go Black Legion to start. Then branch out from there. Lore wise, whatever direction you decide to go, it fits. Iron Warriors? They work woth Black Legion. Word Bearers? Same. Any Chaos legion or warband can be on the same side of a battle as the Black Legion.
>>97911167Dude, LOOK AT THIS. This shit was painted by a spastic, schizophrenic retard. This is a disaster. You didn't even try. You just didn't. For the love of god, don't write off this post just because it's mean, because it's the fucking truth.
>>97911172>Was there no "back to the drawing board" moment?I didn't have a drawing board.>>97911160>>97911153>>97911128Thank you anons, I think I'll take my leave. Have a good night everyone.
>>97911180He's Chaos Undivided's greatest champion.
>>97911180That's not mine man, I'm a different poster and I'm saying I have ADHD (supposedly) and I content myself by having armies where I can quickly jump from tanks to monsters to mutants.
>>97911093Damn that's sick
>>97911180>painted by a spastic, schizophrenic retard. seems on point for chaos+10 VP
>>97911186>I didn't have a drawing boardfunniest line in the thread
>>97911186I didn't want to call them shit in case you were proud of them, but they're not very good.
>>97911180it looks like he threw his paint through a standing office fan and just let it rest on his models, bizarre if legit.
>>97911180>This shit was painted by a spastic, schizophrenicAll according to keikaku
>>97911186Don't forget to put some glue and sawdust or something on the base for texture. Then you're battle ready.
>>97911180the paint deals mental damage to your opponent
>>97911189He absolutely is>>97911193I see I see>>97911200>>97911208True
>>97911207it's interesting how if you focus purely on the star then it looks like the armour is drenched in bloodbut then you move your eyes slightly in any direction and realize it's just totally fucked
>>97911215I think I would just freeze in fear and confusion if I saw that army in real life. I would forfeit the game out of sheer terror.
>>97911222In the grim darkness of the far future there is only hopelessness.
Been thinking about getting tested for ADHD. I have a really hard time forcing myself to focus on anything. Even when that thing is like, playing a video game. I've been intending to walk to the kitchen to grab a drink for 10ish hours now and I still haven't done it.Any anons think medication is worth it?>but that's not about warhammerDo you go all in building a new army, or do you just buy random sets here and there and paint them? Do you buy sets that you don't even intend to use in an army?
>>97911208Seems more nurglite than tzeentchian.
>>97911236My mum has ADHD and the meds help her focus and function like a normal person, that's all I can say. Don't be scared of medication, may as well try it to see if it helps. If not, you don't need to take it again.
hey guys I bought $1000 worth of models and dipped them in diarrhoea, any tips for improvement?
>>97911238>Word Bearers and Iron Warriors together>the excess of Slaanesh>the constant changing of Tzeentch>the unsightly visage for Nurgle>the seething rage by anons for KhornePeak Chaos Undivided imo
>>97911236I tried to go in to test for ADHD and they said I had autismI went again in a different state and they said I didn't have autism No one knows anything about anything in the psych industryI've considered just getting the meds through sus means and seeing if they work as a focus tool>Do you buy sets that you don't even intend to use in an army?Yes because I want a break from painting the same colorOnce my marines are done, I'm doing an army where every unit is a different color scheme because I like color and that will keep me from burning out
Are there any actual canon instances of human x Eldar in lore that's not a black and white blurb from the 90s?
It just occured to me that maybe part of why my painting came out bad was because of my brushes. Maybe they're too big? I think getting better quality ones might contribute even if only a little.
>>97911260No.
What is the hardest army to justify a unique paint job for? Space Marines, Sisters, Eldar, Guard, you can always just say "I'm from an obscure chapter/convent/craftworld/whatever." I'm thinking it's Custodes?
>>97911260That one Night Lord and his Drukhari bff
>>97911263I was expecting a picture of your fingers.Either way, this is next level bait.
>>97911260No, they are space aliens. The closest you'll get in actual canon is Ephrael Stern and Kyganil.
>>97911260There's a half-eldar pirate captain from the older Ultramarines Ventris novels that is presumably cannon since Ventris got a model
>>97911266daemons of khorne
>>97911266Grey Knights.
>>97911270its not impossible that he’s a competent painter, and he bought a bunch of models secondhand and decided to paint it like shit to post for laughs before properly stripping them.
>>97911280No sane person would spend the paint, time, and effort painting all of those models in that way just for laughs.
>>97911287Many of history's greatest artists had bouts of insanity.
>>97911287Sanity is for the weak
I just bought some cheap DnD minis off amazon just to practice on before I even touch my combat patrol because >>97910955 is scaring me
>>97911287This is 4chan. People have done more for less.
>>97911287we have people pushing themselves out of their comfort zone and learning kitbashing to spite one shitposteranything goes on this website
>>97911302that's not happening you retard
>>97911309doakes
>>97910955i guess i admire your confidence if nothing else. it took me months to build up the skill and nerve to post my models here publicly to total strangers
>>97911273Ventris is one of my favorite models.
>>97910955Anon, On your next models try priming with like a matte red before doing the yellow, then paint the green bits independently (yellow or grey primer) before glueing them onto the minis.That'd help your yellow consistentcy a lot, which would then make your maroon details and everything else work a lot better.Use smaller brush strokes I guess?
>>97910955I recommend maybe painting the default color scheme before trying your own. It's important to learn the fundamentals and the rules before you can break and bend them to fit your vision. That said, I'm not sure what your vision is. I can tell you want your minis to look savage and bloody but the yellow and green I'm not quite sure you're trying to achieve.
>>97911280That or whoever he bought them from (probably a child) painted them that badly and he's just posting them here as a bit before he strips them.
>>97911236>Any anons think medication is worth it?The legal stimmies stopped the constant racing thoughts in my head so yes for me. Good luck finding the exact kind and dosage that works for you. a ADHD friend of mine also had some positive effects from doing psychedelics one or two times, but acid trips aren't something I would recommend to any random person
>>97910510Karnivores and Rampagers. And one is basically a bigger version of the other anyway.
>>97911266>Custodes? Not even. They have a bunch of different shield hosts so you can paint them anyway you want.
>>97910955Surely after you saw how the first model looked painted with this color scheme you would stop and rethink
Explain to me how each of the following goes faster than light without navigators:>Votann>Tau>Necrons
Building my first hell blasters noticed their plasma guns have some weapon options.In lore what are the differences?Which option should I build?
>>97911436not your personal wiki
Imperial Fists primaris intercessors
Real nomodels hours here...
>>97911470Literally asking for advice on building some hell blasters right here, which version of plasma do anyone think looks cooler?
>>97911470leg
>>97911477Good shit king
>>97911500
>>97911489
>Wanna make a Word Bearer army after I learn how to fully play the game with Aeldari>Need to find a combination of paint that let's me make Burgundy>Silver is easy >Just need 1 decal of the Word Bearers over the right shoulder panel>Need to buy a light or neon green for thr visorMy only issue is how do I get the parchments on the armor that Word Bearers have? Is there an option? And I would have to learn how to scribe models so I can put symbols and runes on some of their armor.
>>97911556My god you really are a lunatic
>>97911556Anon, I respect your love of the game and hatred of the mutant. Godspeed.
>>97910955I don't know why anyone hasn't mentioned the main issue with these yet - Basic color theory. Yellow and Red, Yellow and Green, and Red and Green are all fine pairs on their own. Yellow Red and Green all together are a big fucking mess, especially with the shades of Red/Green you chose. Lean into two of the three and get rid of the third. Red with Yellow Trim is basically just Word Bearers/World Eaters, but Green with yellow trim might be cool.
>>97911585Don't samefag your own filth
>mfw the platoon gets some of those new fancy centaurs and some of the heavy weapons boys think it'd be a great idea to turn one into a missile wagon but the second we see action they all try to fire through the window holes and backblast each other
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>>97911605you don't have to reply to everyone
>>97910955Hang this in the louvre
>>97911619yes i do
Word Bearers not having their own upgrade sprue sucks, it bums me out knowing they don't have one. I was very close to picking up the Iron Warrior box instead, but I just like WB more.
Like 90% done with my Crucible character now, mostly just have touchu-ps and decals to do. How does the cloak look? I'm not sure if I should add a camo pattern to it or not.
>>97911648You never know, they got a head option for the defiler after all
>>97911674Shit the camo cloak was so good that the image disappeared.
>>97910955Okay, assuming this isn't actually an elaborate troll, I'll try to help you out. You fucked up pretty bad on these but the good news is you're not out any money - since you painted them with no primer you can leave them in a bucket of Simple Green or other cleaner (look them up before buying, simple green is one I know works but you might not have it in your area) for a few hours/overnight and it should all come off with light brushing with a toothbrush or other scrubber.While you're waiting for that, please invest in some more appropriate brushes. The ones you posted are a little big but you don't have to go crazy buying name brand for your first real set, just grab a cheap set of miniature paint brushes off Amazon. After that, get a spray can primer (probably white or yellow if you intend to keep painting your guys yellow) and look up Duncan Rhodes on YouTube. He does excellent tutorials aimed at beginners that will help you understand how to prime a model, thin your paints to the right consistency and how to apply paint and handle your brushes. I genuinely mean this - you're gonna wanna watch as many tutorial videos as you can before you pick up a brush again. Try to look up stuff that's similar to what you're going for.
>>97910822Make tyranid Kerrigan.
>>97911222how many weeks until metafags start bringing armies to tournaments so atrocious that it throws their opponents off their game
>>97911648>Word Bearers not having their own upgrade sprue sucksThey don't deserve or need one.
>>97911186I cannot believe how much of an actual cocksucker you are. Your models aren't just bad, you're also an insufferable person.>post objectively terrible models>some people give you legitimate advice>ignore ALL of it and just pat yourself on the back to the few anons who said nice things to you out of pity>"Three people said they looked nice, and a hundred told me my models were the worst they'd ever seen. I think I did a pretty good job."Actually now that I think about it, this is autism. Severe, crippling autism. This is what Chris-chan did: paint terribly, awfully, and never ever ever once consider "improvement" even a possibility. Self-reflection isn't even a concept autists like you can comprehend.You are just some massively autistic creature so mentally disabled you ignore any and all criticism or advice and just plow through life blind to your failures like a four year old who can't even see over the wheel of a steamroller.
>>97911363does getting bored easily count as having ADHD? I'm talking like work, 15 seconds later check my phone, then work then 15 seconds later I need to check my phone again.I can actually sit still and paint for hours if it's on something I actually wanna paint so I don't think I really have trouble focusing. I may just bore easily.
>>97911711nomophobia is real and it is an epidemic
>>97910283>The centaur literally just got retconned into being a half-track, so the original doesn't exist anymore.
>>97910955This is horrendously bad, but from a distance and en masse, I kinda like the colours. They feel bold an unusual and most importantly you painted the army. Practice and refine your technique while keeping the colour palette and you're cooking. Post more.
>>97911769stop encouraging the sperg
>>97911236ADHD meds help me focus on things. Not just basic tasks, but smells, colors and memories. First time I took the meds I realized that I lacked the ability to differentiate between the colors of my cat's fur. I knew the cat was a blur of brown, white and grey, but my brain couldn't remember which parts were which without looking at the cat.The same was true of basic tasks. I knew the ingredients of scrambled eggs for example, but if you asked me to cook scrambled eggs, it would require fifteen minutes on google to connect the dots.I wouldn't be able to function as a basic bitch human being without them.The meds made me more confident too. No more anxiety or doubt because I can structure my thoughts quick and easy. Today I decided to start a berry garden, and tomorrow I'm getting all the shit I need to do these things, because I made a plan and now know how to follow through. This isn't medical advice by the way. Your mileage may vary.>Do you go all in building a new army, or do you just buy random sets here and there and paint them? Do you buy sets that you don't even intend to use in an army?If I don't like an army but I think a single model is cool, I buy that model.If I like the army, I'll buy a combat patrol and build it up.
>>97910955keep themplacing these down on a table is the single most CHAOS tm thing you could dorefuse to ever elaborate on the paint and the lingering confusion in the people around you will give you the advantage
>>97910955>spend all my money on models, no cash for paints>visit McDonalds for my third daily stress-induced meal of chicken nuggies>realize the free ketchup and mustard packets have the same consistency of unthinned citadel paintsTruly, I am a genius.
>>97911236It’s never completely not worth it to buy models that interest you only aesthetically even from a gameplay perspective because GW will semi consistently create gameplay modes that allow using literally all models from your collection.
>>97911648i have faith.
>>97911788This.Rules are ephemeral
>>97910998Could you share the tutorials you watched?
test
>>97910367We haven't seen a single picture of the nu-centaur with the tarp down.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97911516you should go back to the best damn Warhammer general on the planet kek
>>97911888Pls gw give grotesques, wyches, hellions, succubus, dias, beast pack and court
>>97911470have a Buri
Need to highlight some models but I have manflu
>>97911773No, I want more.
Anyone got the pics of the apocalypse rules and strategems floating around from the new Eye of Terror book?
>>97910955Nothing that a thick coat of marine juice wash won't fix.Also:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIVJMLUimE
>>97911955LMAO
>>97911955>crying on a leftist shithole about 4chan like they aren't just going to ban you for even implying you come here
>>97910822faceless bugs trying to eat you is the appealyou make them more interesting by adding more weirdo faceless bug that eat you in different waysno one cares actually about vague norn queen lore, norn assimilator is a popular model because it's big fuck ass trex that brain blasts people and takes multiple shooting phases to get off the board
>>97910822They are meant to be an npc faction, for /yourdudes/ to endlessly fight and kill
>>97911888In your ass? Because you are right!
>>97911450they used to have different profiles but I dont think they do anymore, so pick whichever you think looks coolest
>>97910045Finished my collage entry. A Venerable Battle-Brother of the Red Hunters having ripped apart a member of the Wolfguard on Fenris during the final act of the Months of Shame. Had a lot of fun doing the base.
>>97911436Necrons stole the keys to the webway.Tau and Votann just use computers in post-Letonian Dune fashion.
>>97911648why is the average 40k fag so deathly allergic to the hobby?just paint the ruins on the marine retardsoak the decal and use it, just take the demon arm and glue it on my nigga stop whining for GW to make a custom tooled sprue to do all the workyou DO NOT need to wait for chaos guard, just kitbash it NOWyou DO NOT need to wait for dark mech, just kitbash it NOW
Any other guard player feels like the list building options are just too bloated nowadays? Especially with the new units coming, I feel like the russes / chimera variants are going to get liquidated, basilisks, manticores and hellhounds more than likely on their way out.Meanwhile my second army is not getting any models even though they desperately need some to cover basic game mechanics. (EC)
>>97910822You don't. You have GSC for that and they let you choose what flavor of radical terrorist group rather than historic regiment you want to cosplay as. Mine are trying to keep hidden from authorities that they dug too deep and found necrons because they want the hive fleet to reach and collect the prometheum biomass before Big I nukes the colony to kingdom come.
>>97912286awesome, just finished mine as well, but I’ll have to take a better picture later. yours is wonderfully gory, how’d you do the guts?
>>97912286Kino
What 40k army is the equivalent of using a vibrator on a caged clitty while plapping when playing them?
>>97912380speak english, doc.
>>97912380Space Wolves
>>97912380Custodes Knights Space Wolves Dark Eldar Guard Thousand Sons Dark Angels Blood Angels
>>97912380any of them, because you dont play and you dont do that either
>no one talking about the catachan killteam leak
>>97912371Thanks, I love the use of looted weapons and armour on your orks.I just used a brass rod and rolled up some green stuff into thin tubes and wrapped it around the brass rod. After that, I use some liquid green stuff on the guts and torn flesh to give them texture. Painted the guts by layering down from purple to pink before using a liberal amount of blood for the blood god and some dirty down gore.
>>97912416fuck off
>>97912416assuming this is AI but it's shocking that the current catachan kits have lasted this long those guys are probably the only infamously shitty looking models left
>>97912416No one is talking about it because they can tell this is AI slop.
>>97912446Marines still have many terrible models out there.
>>97911711>Does having [one possible symptom] count as ADHD? Hard to say for certain, if you have some concerns go to a psychiatrist by whatever means is available to you.Going through the this list and seeing how many apply to apply to you might also be helpful: https://files.catbox.moe/6l2n9i.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/swq4oc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/wk2vxa.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/4soh5u.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/cmk3we.pngWarhammer 40k?
>>97912416its fake because GW always has the grip of a gun in a holster facing forward
>>97912416If they make Catachans before Vostroyans just for Russia issues I swear to fucking God...
>>97912464I gueeeeess but for marines' shit models it's mostly vehicles with incredibly silly design features rather than being horrifyingly fuck-ugly
>>97912470vatnik shit isn't needed.
>>97912470If they do it will be because catachans are more popular
Fucking Germans. Why dont they deliver to other european countries. Taschengelddieb has 20% on all Vallejo paints
>>97912494you polacks don't deserve anything
>>97912470catachans are more important than vostroyans, you contrarian retard
>>97912506neither of them are important at all, you delusional guardfag
>>97912176Snail sex
>>97912516Shut it, retard, and stop projecting your insecurities.
>>97912453How can you tell?
>>97912525>insecurities >he likes vietnam rip-off shitty regimentkek
>>97912527The dog tags are fucked
>>97912527From some of the pixels, and from neither it or its poster having a warp signature.
>>97912531>ESLspeak
>>97912494There are plenty german stores shipping worldwide.
>vietnam rip-off
>There was a forgotten great and terrible conflict erupting in the 32nd Millennium>A strange massive artifact dubed the Echoing Vault, spun of dust and magnetism is found>Perhaps the vast artifact was an embassy from an unknown realm of excistence >Xenoforms dubbed 'The Harrowing' spill forth >Entities that disobeyed known physical laws and close proximity was enought to kill or drive someone insane>Destroyed a thousand worlds, human and xenos in just a few short years>Unprecedented losses of the Adeptus Astartes and the Inquisiton>UNPRECEDENTED losses of space marinesThe Horus Heresy itself was what, only two thousand years earlier? And this was on orders of magnitudes worse in terms of space marine death?That's brilliant I always hated the founding myth of the Imperium being the biggest war it ever faced, having an even bigger one later thats totally covered up and no one remembers is thematically very 40k
>>97912494They ship within the EU, see pic related.Outside EU, only to Switzerland.Reading helps. But if you dont order a really large amount of paint, shipping cost will eat up those 20% instantly.
>>97912527GW would never make a model of a character smoking, im sure it breaches some domestic law
>>97912551I thought that at first but I remembered they already have actually
>>97912551the named ogryn character has a cigarshocked there isn't more though
>>97912527>character not having a gun in his hand is unusual for a GW sculpt>unnatural pose of him calmly smoking while raising his fist to look menacing>grenades are clearly meant to be pineapple grenade but both look completely different and one is missing the pin>tattoos are mishmash and completely disjointed
>>97912548The setting makes more sense when the greatness of the past isn't used to undermine the qualities of the present, the present has to be the violent climax of multiple factions, making them all monstrous shadows of their former selves in their respective golden ages is very different from saying that they are inferior in every single aspect (numbers, power, spread) other than culture and tech.The second case undermines this climax and why the setting focuses on this period instead of another.
>>97912569You're reaching
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>>97912556I forgot about him, still that's a 12 year old model. If/when he gets remade I think that cigar will be gone. Still a cigar is different to a fag in british art with different class connotations, which is the joke with the mini and so a model with a normal cigarette is something GW has never made
>>97912551I know James cares a lot about public morality specially after hearing about Deldar news but that seems ridiculous.
>>97912557>shocked there isn't more thoughThe Sergeant Apone head option from the recent Cadians kinda has a cigar too.
>>97912569Power fist pose is also the exact same one they use for the cadian command squadplus the arms are shaded the exact same way the old catachan models wereplus the kneepads (which a catachan model would not have) kind of just look like decals on the pants as opposed to being actual armor
>>97912548Horus threatened Terra itself and caused nine entire Marine Legions to turn against Terra.The Harrowing is a footnote made to appeal to easily entertained fools like you.
>>97912578do ork cigs contain squig?
>>97912581>specially after hearing about Deldar newsThe what
>>97912589What's even the point of reading the books if your attitude is to dismiss everything as fluff and unimportant background. Just make up your own setting at that point
>>97912591everything contains squigexcept squig burgers, those are made with bugs
>>97912596The setting is about the Imperium fighting Chaos. Everytbing outside of that is window dressing meant to add filler between the conflicts that actually matter.
>>97912571Hmm that's a good point anon. I don't think I was implying that the Imperium inM41/42 was inferior to the past. I think the opposite that the Imperium could afford to lose space marines at a larger scale than the Heresy 2 thousand years later. The Imperium is a shadow of itself and the Emperors vision (whatever it was it is truly lost in M41/2) not just because of the Heresy but because of all the choices the Imperium has made since in the last ten thousand years. Its also far more violent, religious extremist in character and militarised than it has ever been in the past, and thus these things show the decline in the Imperium
>>97912589The horus heresy was a footnote to entertain fools as well, anon.
>>97912600but whats the point of even entertaining anything beyond the primarch slop main plot? Just make up your own setting.
>>97912600The setting is about selling toys to make $$$
>>97912600>Muh Chaos vs Imperium!!!>Xenos NPC! NPC!!!!Can you get new material marinefags?
>>97912551Creed had a cigar.
>>97911816I meant more that they’re always going to make Apocalypse rules every so often, and you can literally soup every faction in that mode.
>>97912605That's the point. Anything ourside of the Imperium and Chaos doesn't matter. You can make up whatever you want for it, but don't expect people to care.>>97912606And Imperium vs Chaos is what makes money.>>97912607Don't need to. Marines still outsell every xenos faction combined.
>>97912609Yeah but they don't sell that Creed currently.
>>97912589>Horus threatened Terra itself and caused nine entire Marine Legions to turn against Terra.>The Harrowing was EVEN WORSE in terms of space marine deathThe point of the footnote, other than being cool world buidling fluff, is too show the Imperiums propoganda and censorship regime is so good something WORSE THAN THE HERESY can be covered up and forgotten. It's a throw away line that to me invoked 1984 and how information in universe is so censored wars of huge scale and cost to the imperium can be hidden.
>>97912596You can read books for entertainment, but you can also be aware of the fact that vast majority of it just pure pulp and filler, which is largely irrelevant to the larger scheme of things.Like the Age of Apostasy it is largely irrelevant and doesn't matter when it comes to the big picture.
>>97912617>That's the point. Anything ourside of the Imperium and Chaos doesn't matter. You can make up whatever you want for it, but don't expect people to care.why do the imperium and chaos matter though, its all just to sell models
>>97912630Because they're the protagonists and antagonists of the setting.
>>97912625its all filler though, there isn't anything that isn't filler
>>97912619They sell >>97912585
>>97912609nu-creed, dreir, honestly maybe even leontas keep making me think the state of named characters for guard was so much worse than it actually was before yarrick came back
>>97912633All that's just to sell toys, is not actually important
>>97912634The Imperium and Chaos aren't filler.
Chaos will always be the main antoginist and final winner of this setting is time to accept this.
>>97912639Reductive reasoning doesn't help you here since everything outside of the Imperium and Chaos is, by default, worth less than them. So even if the Imperium and Chaos mean nothing, that still means everyone else is worth less than nothing.
Exodites when?
>>97912640chaos is filler, yes
>>97912647>Adding ANOTHER shitty Eldar faction that will just flop immediatelyNo thanks.
>>97912647Rumors suggest a kill team for them is coming relatively soon, then their full wave would have to be from that point to 3 years away.They must be jes goodwin's last hurrah at GW.
>>97912647>Exodites when>Hruds when>Traitor Guard when>Gretchin Revolutionary Comitee when>Rak'Gol whenIs his time now so you can wait some more years lol
>>97912589but ur gay and retarded??
>>97912647>red and gold plague marineI know you can paint plague marines any color, but man, it does look odd when you paint them in another color other than green.
>>97912639Their toys sell best, simple as that.If GW suddenly came up with a way to make Eldar sell better than Marines, then you can bet the setting will be altered, and the stories will then revolve around the Eldar for the most part, and humans become the npc factions.
>>97912640they are, its all fluff for toy soldiers
>>97912662You don't get it, do you? This is his range, this is the darkmech, they're not getting much more but a kill team of scrubs at the very most.
>>97912646thats the point anon, its all worthless. Trying to draw lines in the sand is like trying to be king of the ants
>>97912662>Rak'golGenuinely not canon, they're some third party idea like the really cool worm guys the Slaugth. But both aren't canon.Darkmech soonForge of Souls daemons will come when the dameon codex is shit canned and daemons are in their god specific codex
>>97912690>when the dameon codex is shit canned and daemons are in their god specific codexThat sounds about as miserable as the time they separated daemons from CSM.
>>97912651The Eldar as a whole are the third best selling model range in GW's catalogue.
>>97912690>Forge of Souls daemonsIt would be fun if the soulgrinder was redesigned to be a unit of multiple lesser demons with mechanical implants instead of an alternative to the defiler.
>>97912662I guess putting the fucking rak'gol on there with exodites and traitor guard is showing we're running out of legitimate factions to add to the game (outside of SM/CSM subfactions).
>>97912692fortunately nobody cares about demons
>>97912692GW has game system autism and hates how daemons are shared between games. They'll be squattted and reimagined into 40k specific forms (with guns). An anon posted that pox walkers and goremonger jackals were experiments to reimagine baseline daemons and I think they're on the money
>>97912700He was drawing the piss.He left out frogs to include those, for example.
>>97912694They barely manage to beat out the Tau.
>>97912705Chaos is in both setting GW should already deal with it and accept Chaosfags will enjoy the same in both systems (thank god for that)
>>97912688See you later this year when Dark Mech codex become a thing
>>97912705Sounds like GW accountant apologia. I don’t give a fuck about which team gets what bonuses, maybe if GW paid their employees properly in the first place they wouldn’t be fucking up peoples’ factions like this.
>>97912719they don't release new factions in the first months of a new edition, anon
>>97912714They do when you add Harlequins, Corsairs, and Drukhari into the faction. Which you should, since GW already has them all in the same codex now anyway.
>>97912741deathguard were a new faction in 8th
>>97912742>Harlequins>CorsairsNot separate from regular Aeldari ownership, which is tied with the Tau.>Dark EldarGenuinely Imperial Agents tier popularity.
>>97912684dont bother, its impossible to get through to imperiumfags
>>97912747if darkmech was to be the starter faction you would have a point the reason why new factions aren't released in the first months of a new edition is because gw expects and wants the starter factions to draw as many purchases as possible so they stave off flashier stuff for later
>>97912700>we're running out of legitimate factions to add to the gameWhat factions are reasonable to get at this point>Darkmech>Traitor guard>Forge of Souls daemonsFor Chaos>Exodites>Gretchen Revolutionary Comitee (maybe they have the little green man/greys with the communist aesthetic, maybe thats a different faction of gretchins)>Xenos Mercs (for random xeno kill teams, like a xenos imperial agents)>Harlequins come back as a factionFor xenos>??For the Imperium, whats left other than sub factions, they have to make up a another adeptus give-us-an-army with-a-different-aesthetic-for-humans
>>97912755>Harlequins come back as a faction
>>97912749we can see popularity of factionsdeldar are around the same level of popularity as Knights, BT and Sisters, literally 11 times as popular as agents
How do you store your paints, /40kg/? I have way too many to fit in the few racks I have, thinking of getting some sort of drawer system
we don't need 4 flavors of pointy ears in space, i just refuse to believe someone would want that...
I can see why gsc aren't very popular now, they are fucking hard to play
>>97912755Slanni will come back eventually. GW keeps fleshing out factions that used to have models/are in lore. It's inevitable honestly>For the Imperium, whats left other than sub factions, they have to make up a another adeptus give-us-an-army with-a-different-aesthetic-for-humansNavis Nobilite army
>>97912755I can see them spinning off salamanders or whatever into their own "divergent chapter" faction. That or legion of the damned.
>>97912765We also don't need all of those different marine chapters and have them listed as separate armies
>>97912765Jes Eldar designs are utterly unique to 40k and iconic, GW will milk their own actual creativity, why shouldn't they?>Dinosaurs with laser weapons and bionics is bad because space elves ride them
>>97912755Making a grot spin off army is a little silly desu, it should just be an ork detachment
>>97912774Marines are the bread and butter of this setting anon what the fuck are you talking about? Marines alone keep your game alive.
>>97912771>SlanniMaybe, but it seems they have firmly decided magic frogs are for AoS not 40k >Navis Nobilite armyI thought they were just a series of different, massive in size and very powerful clans and families. They don't have their own standing army loyal to them do they?
>>97912765Elves being popular is not something uncommonIt's normal for them to come in multiple flavors in every setting
>>97912780A different colour scheme is fine, we dont need a dozen codexes for the same army, that's fucking stupid
>>97912777for you maybe, grots don't only have charisma and are funny they already showed in fantasy they would be awesome on board.
>>97912776>>97912774
>>97912755I just want Dark Mech and traitor Guard desu.
According to Valrak, 11th Edition's first few codices have leaked>Orks and Space Marines first>Custodes next, they're not actually getting much but the new HH stuff is going to be the new 40k models. They're getting rid of most of the old stuff and FW stuff>Then Tau with mini range refresh for Broadsides and Crisis Suits. Small number of kits but big parts of the army>Deldar are getting the last codex of 2026, vect is leading them
