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First for Blake!
>>97926978Praise him, praise him!
>>97926978Praise Blake!
HONOR THE DRAGON!
I think I have worked out my Republic Remnant force. A Lance of Republic Standing Guard mechs, a Battlemaster piloted by Alicia Stapleton, a former Knight who canonically served the Remnant, and a Point of Protomechs from the Fidelis.
The Naga mk1 is an omni, they really should have just given it a pod config without the Arrow 4s. Sometimes their insults can be so expensive yet petty.
>>97927088Any omni having fixed equipment of any kind is really odd if you only look at rules as written. It must reflect in universe realities.
>>97927033This image is misogynistic. Delete it.
>>97927088Really see no reason I feel that it shouldn't be retconned that the Naga I and II be merged into the same design with the Arrow IV being the Prime config or be called the "Wolves" config
>>97927168No.
>a Locust has the same critical slots as an Atlas
>>97927178>A Sesna has the same amount of wings as an F-15
>>97927183>internals are the same as externals!Do you see how dumb your comparison is?
>>97927186Do you know how dumb you are?
>>97927186>gorillas have the same amount of bones as humansYour shitpost isn't even funny.
>>97927191A Locust goes up to the knees of an atlas at best. Yet has the same internal space?
>>97927200>anon is too stupid to understand abstraction and supersetsYou might want to jump ship to Necromolds. This might not be your speed.
>>97927200>A Locust goes up to the knees of an atlas at best.Old school is everything around 9-14m, which falls in line with square cube law. Size doesn't vary that much with weight. The bugs and scouts were known as little beanpoles, not short things. Actually, the Awesome was known as a brick manlett back in the day.
>>97927207The difference between 9 and 14 meters, is uh... quite large.
>>97927069Looks fine to me. Republic Remnant is a niche choice.
>>97927253Why thank you :)
>>97927207>Old school is everything around 9-14m,That's wrong and retarded. Look at MWO. Fleas and Locusts are about 6m tops, and an Atlas is close to 18m.
97927263Bait used to be believable
>>97927200>>97927178The real breakthrough of BT technology was the invention of hammer space, yes.Thanks to it, every car is a clown car.
>>97927290Don't forget how it's also weird inverse hammer space, where, a lot of the time, the more bulkier something is, the less it weighs!
>>97927290We have already explained this, everyone is on average under 5ft in the Battletech universe!
>>97927207That's equivalent to four foot to six foot. A four foot person's head will just about come up to a six foot person's stomach.The height range has only widened since then in every form of battletech media.
>>97927300Have you ever noticed a large volume of styrofoam will still be significantly lighter than a small volume of steel?
>>97927263>Look at MWO>Look at thing that fucked up canon scaleUmmm, no.
>>97927285>The infamous shit derided 3039 scale Why post this?
>>97927339Shitposting for lulz
>>97927313A stomach is a whole lot fucking higher than the knees.
>>97927301>everyoneIt's just the Davions.
All Mechs are between 10-12m, unless they have a specific description that says otherwise. Anything else is a tranny CGL retcon.
>>97927351Well observed.
>>97927372CGL products aren't canon.
>>97927356Just a reminder that HBS tried to make mechs as tall as 18m+ and CGL were onboard with it till someone actively pointed out that there is no way that they'd fit in dropships at that height.
>>97927378>we want to make the mechs bigger>but the dropships are too small>then just make the dropships bigger too?
>>97927396That would involve too much effort as far as CGL were concerned.
>>97927377Trying Too Hard
I see CGL is still considered one of the worst gaming companies.
Atlas gets mogged by Sazabi
>>97927794Don't see why people think they are one of the worst. Most incompetent maybe? Always seem to manage to snatch failure from the jaws of success.
>>97927794I can’t speak for many other gaming companies, but CGL just seems embarrassing more than anything>plastic minis look like dogshit most of the time>professional company being on kickstarter (at all, like don’t you guys have a business or some shit to fund your next product?)>cannot fucking figure out distribution to save their lives, people waiting for like a year to get mercs stuff>porchgate>”Gothic isn’t trying to be 40K you guys” >product number 40,000>actually just Gothic in generalI am glad the game is seeing a renaissance as of late but I chalk that up to the players more than anything, CGL just seems hell-bent on slowing Battletech’s momentum by any means necessary.
>>97928006You forgot>admitting to drip feeding content
>>97928047If I was building a comprehensive list of CGL’s retardation, I’d be here all day. Feel free to chime in with anything I missed.
>>97928062>Actually employing a guy who goes on 4chan
>>97928110I definitely agree that (You) do not deserve the means to feed, house and clothe yourself, (You) should definitely starve to death.
>>97928124Explain why.
>>97928129You said it, I'm just agreeing with you.
>>97927817BattleTech isn't really built for Death Battles so you right.Though I think a Horned Owl could stand a chance against a Zaku.
>>97927065HONOR!!!
>>97928006The bitter truth is BT was never managed well even under FASA. The even more bitter truth is that no game is managed well unless you keep your attention surface level
>>97928217Dragon status: honored
>>97928201>BattleTech isn't really built for Death BattlesSolaris rules exist.
>>97928285I meant the video series Death Battle!
>>97928285You don't need special rules for 1v1
>>97928257>>97927921It is not even a political thing. Just shitty management along with dishonest ones. Porchgate is honestly just the biggest mismanagement, but they also have constitly not paid their authors and other talents.Though to be fair we also have some of the worst of the fandoms due to death threats so may make sense why we have a shitty company on top of that.
>>97928201>ZakuBAR 8 at most, given a proto-PPC turns them into confetti.
>>97928391My dude no. Beam Rifles in OYW era Gundam are gratuitous overkill. They're essentially barely miniaturized battleship grade guns. They don't really have a good equivalent in Battletech honestly, they mostly just shoot channels of minovsky particles that get reactor plasma funnelled through them, or caged plasma in the magazine, depending on which version of the technology you're looking at. Megaparticle Cannons on the other hand are just some straight up Dr Minovsky brand bullshit witchcraft and I implore you not to think too hard about it.Zaku armours about right. It's basically some kind of titanium alloy. Thick enough to survive in space, but that's about it. The Gundam conversely itself is packing some SERIOUS bullshit for it's armour however. Not to the extent that later Gundam shows do, but still. The thing just tanked multiple bazooka shots to the face from char without even showing any real damage.In fact I don't think the thing ever actually get's battle damaged until Zeon starts using beam weapons themselves. Fuck, I think Amuro took more damage to his person than the Gundam did.
>>97928442OYW "battleships" are essentially dropship sized. And of course they don't have jump drives. They're not warships and their weapons are not warship grade. I'll remind you that the Zaku I kicks their ass with an autocannon.
>>97928257I heard that FASA had a reputation for pissing off partners they worked with including managing to annoy Gene Roddenberry but not sure how true that statement is.
>>97928391Zaku is a Horned Owl, dumbass.
>>97928477You vastly overestimate the tech in battletech
>>97928362Solaris rules make it more fun.>>97928442>They're essentially barely miniaturized battleship grade guns.Yes, that's what a PPC is. That's why we draw the comparison.Also OYW armour is allegedly proof vs laser weapons. Like actual proof, to the point where they just stopped using lasers altogether, even as fixed point defense.
>BAR 10 armor is so crazy guys!>random ass infantry machine guns can damage it
>>97927817Nah. Sazabi gets popped the moment it enters los.>>97928201A Stinger would tear a Zaku apart.
>>97928571A Stinger pilot would be sweating. Its laser gets nerfed by OYW armour and its mobility isn't much better than a Zaku's.
>>97926978Praise be to Word.
>>97928533UC offense and defense tech goes back and forth so many times it's honestly hilarious. In the end they just start making gundams smaller and faster because there's no surviving beam hits anyway.
>>97926970>ghost bears won their own civil warjesus fucking christ i'm sick of them being the writers' favorite clan
>>97928442Oyw battleships get critically damaged by 20mm machine cannons. They have no real armour to speak of and mainly exist to carry mobile suits and provide big gun support, at least by the end of it. Remember that Zakus with 120mm guns, basically AC5's, shredded the Feddie fleet.>>97928649Gundam lasers are not battletech lasers. Gundam lasers where dropped due to a lack of ability to power a sufficiently powerful weapon, and by the time they solved that issue they had moved on to beam weapons (which where part of the solution, using precharged "shells").Battletech never had that issue, and thus Battletech lasers are effective weapons. A Medium Laser hits about as hard as a Beam Magnum. Maybe a bit harder.Meanwhile the Stinger is faster, and has jumpjets whereas the Zaku doesn't. And the Stingers armour can shrug off several hits from the Zaku whereas it only needs to hit once.
>>97928737Clans gotta win something once in a while to at least give the veneer of being a relevant power.At least let them win against themselves.
>>97928006Don't forget the nome-US supply issues. Good luck finding Battletech stuff in the UK.
>>97928833>a medium laser hits as hard as a beam magnumMan, I too remember all the times a medium laser took out a city block and every mech on it!
>>97928918Ngl I can't figure out how Gundam are supposed to work. In 08th MS they're like slow giant infantry, then in other series their maneuverability skyrockets to the moon (literally) and they would at least have to be the equivalent of jump 50 battlemechs. In say - witch from mercury or seed destiny. Then we go to sort of tanks in Iron Blooder OrphansLike, they can skirmish effectively with aerospace fighters or participate in fleet battles so they've gotta be supersonic at least and we know they can pull that shit off in atmosphere.The power level in Gundam seems to radically fluctuate with the writer whereas generally Battletech writers at least know about how fast a mech is actually moving in most iterations.
>>97928737Which clan has the most fiat behind it?Bears, Wolves, or Adders?
Does anyone have a high quality scan of Mechwarrior Technology of Destruction book? The one I found online was poopoo quality.
>>97928902Hell, even Etsy isn't as good as it was before GW started causing problems for them and they had to change their ToS.
>>97928918My bad, I meant the Beam Spray Gun from the GMThe Beam Magnum is more of a Heavy PPC.
>>97929007Wolves don't just have fiat, they're a fucking fiat factory.
