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Previous: >>97921307

Yes I'm This Jacked IRL Edition

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

TQ: Have you tried Precon League with your pod? What's the consensus on how much budget is allowed for upgrades and what's the best precon that doesn't have green in it?
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>>97929302
That's an impressive pussy.
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>don't have time to go to my lgs
>play mtg arena instead
>I have those cards in paper as well
>Let's play the same deck
>Oh no, the constant shuffling
I changed it in paper because it's annoying to play otherwise
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I'm a furry and a tranny
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>>97929329
Every day I wish Arena had online commander. The problem though is obtaining cards in Arena sucks nuts, and it's missing a lot of stuff.
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>>97929346
unfortunately arena was made before wotc realized commander was the future of mtg and they're too strapped hardcarrying hasbro to rewrite the entire arena code to allow 4man FFA
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>>97929346
The ragequitting would be too much.
>Play 1 counterspell
>concede
>Play 1 discard effect
>concede
>Remove their commander once
>concede
This is all happening 1v1. Now imagine all the ragequitting with 3 other players
I don't know how to fix this. Artifact comes to mind where you need to use some kind of in-game currency to incentivize players to not concede willy nilly and we all know how well Artifact went.
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>>97929352
I'm surprised they haven't tried to, given how well edh does these days. Just give me a way to play shuffle decks (and others shit that takes ages to resolve) instantly.

>>97929383
Give us the option to play with friends, and severely punish people who concede/leave
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>>97929346
just use tabletop sim to play commander
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>>97929383
>Artifact mentioned
Oh boy I could really go into an hour-long rant on how this game was flawed at literally every level. Even if, by some miracle, people liked the game, it would have still died because there was ZERO chance Valve was going to ever be able to make even 2 sets a year with their atrocious company structure.
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>>97929383
people still ragequit in ranked match fighting games so there's no way cardgames can stop it, but it's not like it's an issue that needs to be resolved, just take the W
>dota 2 should be the next UB btw
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>>97929416
No you see Magic should be like Dota where there's no option to concede so if your opponent decides they want to jerk off for 45 minutes you're stuck there letting them do it.
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>>97929416
>just take the W
The thing is I want to play edh and not necessarily win. Ragequitting losers should be punished for ragequitting.
>>97929413
I never played it, but I don't see how you stop people from ragequitting unless they have to pay some in-game currency.
>>97929416
Take draft for example. I almost never see people ragequitting there. That's because it's not inconsequential. You paid to play and people keep playing even if there's basically only one way to win. My game crashes.

League of Legends and other games have a solution for it. Identify the ragequitter and let them play against each other.
world of warcraft would give you a debuff for 30 iirc if you ragequit a PvP match. They need to implement all of this in my opinion otherwise
>Asshat doesn't get his opening that he wants
>concede
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Thoughts on cheap value commanders that provide broad but directed deck building mandates?
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>>97929411
>Have to track all your triggers
I'm guessing you've never played arena
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>>97929479
It might be my favorite thing and part of why I might stick with Golbez. I love having a set direction and the commander being cheap enough to do it reliably.
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>>97929476
>The thing is I want to play edh and not necessarily win
>Take draft for example. I almost never see people ragequitting there. That's because it's not inconsequential. You paid to play and people keep playing even if there's basically only one way to win
you can't have it both ways, either edh veers away from sheldon's dumbassery and embraces the pvp nature of mtg ensuring wins and losses have meaning or you let the format remain casual where the people have to be allowed to do the thing and if not they're going to ragequit
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>>97929476
>League of Legends and other games have a solution for it. Identify the ragequitter and let them play against each other.
League of Legends lets teams concede and this has no penalty or impact beyond being counted as a loss. Your fantasy of forcing people to play out every game will never be accepted especially for a casual environment.
>Make people pay in-game currency to play
People concede in Hearthstone's Arena all the time. It was extremely common practice for people to throw out draft runs without playing a single game because they didn't like the cards they were offered. This was WITH an in-game currency requirement.
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>>97929485
Maybe don't be a fucking retard and actually know what your deck does???
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>>97929531
Kill yourself, retard.
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>>97929533
You're the person too stupid to keep track of his own triggers.
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>>97929515
Yeah, that's why I'm talking about MTGA draft and not hearthstone. I've never seen somebody concede.
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>>97929536
I'm not. You're clearly a fucking retard who never played arena. Kill yourself
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>>97929538
Because if someone doesn't like the cards they're offered they ragequit out instantly.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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Gay Bolas
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Why is mono green so boring?
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This didn't happen, by the way.
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Post decks.
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Has anyone tried the blue emeritus and displacer kitten yet? That shit looks absolutely silly.
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My favorite underrated card is Demonic Tutor.
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>sitting here all day every day having a perpetual melty about a tcg thread on an anime goon site
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Conceding should only be allowed with permission from all opponents at sorcery speed.
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>>97929621
Uh oh furfag melty
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Concede at Sorcery Speed: Any time.
Concede at Instant Speed: When the shop closes.
Concede as a State Based Action: In Emergencies.

Congratulations everyone it's solved, we can all get back to playing.
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>>97929346
Nah. The worst kind of faggots already haunt arena. Imagine having to play games against three clones of poopdickschizo. What a nightmare.

There's a reason why some people are forced to play at LGS's and online instead of with friends or private locals.
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Posting again because new thread: any cool hidden techs for face down tribal?
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>>97929656
>sorry guys i have to concede because of a medical emergency
>PROOF?! STOP RUNNING AWAY
>...um isnt this a HIPAA violation?
>hell no faggot now get your ass back in your seat!
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>>97929692
>YOU CAN ONLY CONCEDE AT SORCERY SPEED GET YOUR ASS BACK IN THE SEAT!
>AM I ON THE ONLY WHO FOLLOWS MY MADE UP RULES?!
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I feel like people are gonna find some fucked up setups with this and it'll suddenly be a 10 dollar card.
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>>97929692
>>97929705
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>>97929746
woops forgot image
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>>97929848
why would I spend 2 mana to draw a card when I do it for free every turn
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>>97929595
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Make fun of me for being stupid.

I was looking through lands, saw a perfect one, and put it on my maybe list.
The next day, I pop into my local shop, coincidentally spot it for $50, and after debating with myself for the longest time, decided to go for it because that's how much NM versions were selling for on TCGplayer.

Do some goldfish runs, am impressed by just how powerful it is even without targeting any of my opponent's stuff, and feel like the money was well spent.

Then I get a nagging feeling.
I check the ban list.

It's been banned since 2008.
And reprint versions are selling for $15 anyway.
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>>97929966
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>>97929955
>put chains in a deck that doesn't even benefit from it
lmao
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>>97929966
How do people not know what's on the banlist when this shithole company + RC is too impotent to add anything to the list? The banlist is 39 cards.
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>>97929955
>doesn't revolve around summoning shadow dragons
not a real golbez deck
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Just had a four hour game where we got maybe 12 turn cycles, and it only ended after I died and most other players gave up
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>>97930027
as Sheldon intended
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>>97930006
Wish I had an OG Foil Kokusho, would struggle to find a slot for it. I think Ebondeath would also work nicely since I want my shit to get in the grave as fast as possible.
>>97929983
>draw hate
>lets me discard with it
These are both good things, it's a gimmicky but pretty game altering card
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>>97929988
I just completely forgot. It's the first time I ever even considered adding a card that was on the banlist, so I didn't even think about whether or not it would be on there.

>The banlist is 39 cards.
Do you remember all of them off the top of your head?
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>>97929966
I did this with fastbond, even cast it in a game before the table informed me
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>>97930074
i can remember looking them up on my phone
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>>97930071
Orcish Bowmasters would be better than Chains in that deck.
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>>97930107
don't bother with this tard
>boring valueslop
>but dude I run le phantom train and forget, it's sovl
literally all his decks are the same shit
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>>97929335
>>97929335
So like the Kirk shooter?

Anyway I picked up this squirrel for 1/70th of 1¢ on MTGO. First what a nightmare it is to play as mono green. 2nd what the fuck are you even supposed to do with this thing?

I made a Voltron b2 deck with it and didn’t win anything but I had it up to 25/25. What exactly are you supposed to do with this thing
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>>97930145
>don't bother
>boring valueslop
The guy is straight up recommending Orcish fucking Bowmasters. One of the sloppiest, most broken valuepieces in the entirety of Magic the Gathering.
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>>97929656
>Concede at Sorcery Speed: Any time.
Since people are speculating that channel might get unbanned because of the prepared thing I suggest we listen to wotc and mtga
>You can concede at instant speed
There it is. Can't respond to it either.
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>>97930156
oh I thought he said orcish settlers
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>>97929329
Why would you not just play mtgo

>>97929346
Same thing. Are you guys just dumb or what. Arena is garbage and will never be able to support 4 players
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>>97929411
Mtgo
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>>97930158
>channel exsanguinate everywhere
Let's not even think about cedh breaking this thing, the headache of having people ruleslawyer early turn kills by saying "it's not consistent enough!" makes unbanning channel not a good idea to say the least
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>>97929479
Will never win with commander damage which us the main way to win
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>>97929575
Because it’s for n00bs and literal babies
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>>97929692
Don’t have a medical emergency then
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>>97930145
I definitely agree that Swordfag uses boring valuetrash like TOR and the most boring tutors in the game but Orcish Bowmasters would not improve his sovl rating. I consider a decent chunk of that deck soulful compared to the last time he posted Urza and it was 99% just what you'd see in any cedh deck plus like 1 "unique" card.
>Chains
>Apocalypse Demon
>Faerie Artisans
>Golbez print of Syr Konrad
>Forget instead of something like Windfall or Dark Deal
>Phantom Train
>Desculpting Blast
>Swallowed by Leviathan
>Scour for Scrap
>unironically using shit like Bad Tolarian Academy
>Dimir Spybug
The soul is just crushed by all the fast mana, cancerous tutors, shit like Sink into Stupor, and extremely expensive cringe lands like Ancient Tomb. 4/10 not enough sovl.
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>>97930198
>Faerie Artisans
Does this card give you the enters effects from opponent's creatures?
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>>97930158
Channel isn't getting unbanned, the prepared Channel isn't even close to as good as regular Channel.
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>>97930209
yes, since it creates a token copy
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>>97930209
Creating a token that's a copy of something is it entering, so yes. If you're playing against a deck with a lot of enters effects, you will get as many as they play.
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>>97929966
Yeah you’re a Retard. Although when I got back into Magic this year I was looking into some cards to buy that I didn’t have and I was just about to pull the trigger on MANA crypt and was like “dude this is gonna be so good for my deck”. right at the last moment, I thought maybe I should see if this is banned…and yep it was
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>>97930158
>Since people are speculating that channel might get unbanned
What are the odds that Karakas ever gets unbanned?
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>>97930224
Completely impossible.
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>>97930196
>just keep healthy guys!
That's a hard ask anon
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>>97930160
That's a red card, retard.
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>>97930107
Orcish Bowmasters is nice, but I don't agree
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>>97930267
oh I thought he meant orcish medicine
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>>97930294
You're a silly little fella, huh?
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Yo, are we talking about Orcish Lumberjacks, ie the most flavorful card of all time?
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>>97930224
Literally 0
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>>97930198
>Windfall or Dark Deal
I've considered both of these, but aside from Forget, I'm not sure what I'd even trade out. Here's a list of the stuff I'm looking at
>Glaze Fiend for pressure
>Grave Researcher for easy reanimate/surveil
>Lazav, the Multifarious to copy good shit in my graveyard like Apocalypse Demon or Broodstar
>Planetarium of Wan Shi Tong if I can stomach Avatar in my deck for free casts
>New Black Ral for Surveil/Discard/Reanimate
>Arcbound Condor
>Skyswimmer Koi
>Confession Dial
>Grinding Station for mill combo or self-mill
I'm willing to read any suggestion you have, I'm quite curious.
https://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collection
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>Enchantress deck wins again because too much of the pod is red and black and can't deal with a high volume of enchantment shit
Before some genius poindexter points out black can kill enchantments, no the black players never have it. They claim it's in their deck but they don't have it.
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>>97930558
What colors are you running and what color is the enchantress deck?
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>>97930558
your pod should heed the wisdom of the ages
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>>97930588
Man it is fucking WILD how few red/black decks run this
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I'm trying to make it Human-Soldier-Token centered,, How's it looking? Any tips, suggestions (cuts, add)?

>https://moxfield.com/decks/_dwafxT2KEWbSdUnaOQ_sg
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>>97930558
Since I'm going to take a nap, I assume the enchantress deck has white in it, or black
So I'd recommend Order of the Sacred Torch, Stromgald Cabal, Aura Flux, Back to Nature, or Tranquil Grove
There's also a ton of 2-3 cost enchantment board wipes in green/white
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>>97929302
>TQ: Have you tried Precon League with your pod? What's the consensus on how much budget is allowed for upgrades and what's the best precon that doesn't have green in it?

yeah and it was a blast. we did about a month (5 or so games) for each budget tier (+10$ per tier). by the time we hit $30 decks were pretty much solidifed in how they deviated from the precons and more budget would be nothing but adding more efficient staples. i played the bello precon and it mostly started revolving around worldgorger lines because primal surge painted too much of a target on my back.
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>>97930724
>by the time we hit $30 decks were pretty much solidifed in how they deviated from the precons and more budget would be nothing but adding more efficient staples.
Would you say $20 upgrade limit is the sweet spot then?
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>>97930558
so can red
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>>97930588
what up with Larry Nevin's Talism-ussy?
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today Im adding this to my cancer commander list.
thank you for reading my blog
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>>97929476
I think Hearthstone had a hidden separate queue for the ropers.
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>new thread
>previous thread on page 5
Is this a psyop or something
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>>97930722
>Most of the pod is red and black
>White, blue, and green answers
Tripfags got their head bumped as children or something. Yeah no shit green and white can kill enchantments you fat retard that's not the problem.
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>>97929595
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>>97930558
Have you tried killing enchantress player fast yet?
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Someone sits across the table from you with this as his commander, how do you respond?
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>>97930887
Neat proxy. I hate winota though, so I hope you understand I'll be targeting you all game.
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>>97930887
Depend on his lore. If he's gay then he'll be killed on sight.
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>>97930854
>most
So its 3 rakdos decks versus 1 enchantment deck? You might be the retard here.
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>>97930887
Laugh at how faggy it is, but it's not official UB so I'll tolerate it.
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>>97930854
Stromgald Cabal is a black card that counters white spells, anon. Are you suggesting it's 4 Rakdos decks and one of them is enchantment themed?
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>>97930854
>GUYS HELP ME I CANT DEAL WITH ENCHANTMENTS
>get suggestions in white, black, green, and blue
>REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Swordgod owned your bad deck building, timmy. Step it up and pay your (you) tithe to the BEST POSTER. Shitposting aside, you didn't answer what colors you're using specifically so you can only be given answers that are general.
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>>97929302
God that card sucks. Anyways, when did edh players develop terminal brain worms?
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>>97930746
i think it's where the concept hits its stride, you should go to 30$ though, it's a progression.
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>>97929302
>>97929302
Do you think anon in this pic also have phyrexian Brimaz deck?
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>>97930991
He very well could, given that he drew brimaz's nipples
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>>97930153
Toski as commander is pretty bad. He works in the 99 of a more aggressive deck, but if he's your commander what you want to do is pair him with Dragon Throne of Tarkir. You can use him as an indestructible blocker or use him to give trample to your actual attackers.
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I've decided. I'm okay with WotC using AI art, if it could look like this.
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>>97930822
No we just have an autistic power hungry unemployed faggot who constantly bakes way too early because they can't stand the op having any fun stuff in it haunting the general. They're also the same dumbass who's trying to make that antiubfag general a thing.
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>>97930153
Slam a lure effect on him and go wide.
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>>97930762
>Zuko's exile
>specifically mentions Zuko, a creature
>can exile enchantment or artifact as well
???
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>>97931145
You don't need AI to have good goon material in game. Legend of the Cryptids was putting out sovlfvl goonart 14+ years ago. WotC is run by anti-beauty culture war weirdos so we're just not going to get good looking cards unless they're UB (and even then they'll try to uglify as much of it as possible, like with TMNT).
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>>97931145
get ye gone gooner
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>>97931145
Nah, the gookface ruins it
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>>97931175
No. I don't think I will.
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>>97930104
It is weird you post this unironically when this guy was ran through the mud for this response
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>>97929656
>Rules that break the law
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>>97929656
>Friend has a clearly winning board state.
>Keeps playing out his turn regardless of people have scooped for whatever reason
No. I will not just sit there and watch you durdle for 50 minutes because you want to play out your ebin winning play in full.
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>>97930558
Maybe those colors shouldn't be given next to no answers for an entire card type?
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>>97931201
It's almost like the color pie was piss poorly designed from the get go or something
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>>97931206
It was designed with the idea that you could splash to cover weaknesses. Commander was made by people who did not understand a key part of balancing the color wheel. By locking players out of certain colors you are unbalancing things.
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>>97931185
i dunno about diablo immortal but surely you have a phone to google stuff right?
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>it is 2026
>they don't play blue
Explain to me why I should give a shit about any other color when blue can solve every problem thrown at you.
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>>97931227
>when blue can solve every problem thrown at you
it actually can't
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>>97931241
I don't know what your image is trying to imply, but blue can deal with Sisay. This isn't even a good option, its just the first I could think of of the top of my head.
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>>97931201
>>97931206
>I should be able to run goodstuff.dek with any commander!
Yugioh is right over there
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>>97931263
No one said this btw
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>>97931261
>3 mana to deal with 3 drop
oof
and to think i'm not even tryharding here
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>>97931218
Hybrid mana could of fixed this, to some degree, but we need to suck sheldon's dick.
Rhystic will never be banned, though it should.
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>>97931278
It is banned in bracket 2
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>>97931275
>3 mana to deal with a 3 drop
3 mana to shut down the focal point of an entire deck.
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>>97931278
the people who swear by rule zero and are afraid of broccoli in a fire deck are the same people who want rhystic banned
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>>97931275
well technically it has to counter sisay's five mana ability, so it's three mana to counter 3+5 mana over an unknown number of turns.
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>>97931285
all that effort to hold 3 mana, all for nothing
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>>97931288
sisay has a lot of dork mana don't worry
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>>97929302
yeah i play counterfeit duals
yeah i pass on them off as real for street cred
so what?
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>>97931300
obsessed
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'toskiposter is a furry and trans' poster is gay and trans and has an unfortunate bodyhair problem btw
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>>97930822
OP wars between a guy who doesn't want the ritual posts in the OP and a guy who does
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>>97931218
that was literally the point
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>>97931373
A bad decision is a bad decision regardless of its intent.
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>>97931385
just play Canadian Highlander if it bothers you so much
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https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgvorthos/comments/1ssbdvf/strixhaven_is_really_gay/
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>>97930074
In order I remembered them:
>Black Lotus
>OG Mox (5)
>Ancestral Recall
>Time Walk
>Channel
>Balance
>Fastbond
>Time Vault
>Library of Alexandria
>Karakas
>Mana Crypt
>Jeweled Lotus
>Dockside Extortionist
>That Fucking Bird That I Hate
>Limited Resources
>Tolarian Academy
>Tinker
>Flash
>Yawgmoth's Bargain
>Zesty Elf
>Recurring Nightmare
>Upheaval
>Griselbrand
>Primeval Titan
>Sylvan Primordial
>Sundering Titan
>Emrakul, Aeons Torn
>Iona, Shield of Emeria
>Trade Secrets
>Leovold
>Hullbreacher
>Prophet of Kruphix
>Paradox Engine
>Golos
>Erayo, Soratami Ascendant (had to look up the name because I was just remembering "the stupid Kamigawa flip card that counters 1 spell/turn")
That's 39 + the universally banned cards (Shahrazhad, dexterity cards, the raycis ones).
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>>97931413
>UW is incredibly gay

Nothing we didn't already know anon
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>>97931196
You should get better friends; but then again you wouldn't need cut and dry rules for when you get to leave the table either if they weren't idiots to begin with.
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>>97931414
We can start by unbanning Leovold, Iona, Sundering Titan, Sylvan, Prime Time, Zesty Elf, Recurring Nightmare and Jeweled Lotus at least.
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>>97931275
This anon is fucking retarded, how the fuck is this a response to tidebinder?>>97931288
Tidebinder shuts it down until removed
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>>97931477
>blue can answer anything!
>ok what about a commander that threatens a combo via activated abilities
>uhhh here's a niche answer that has no use anywhere else
"just feed the swarm the enchantment" monoblack vibes here
and like i said i'm not even trying hard here, abrupt decay is present in all sisay decks
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>>97931483
that card has plenty of uses in all sorts of contexts and blue has other Stifle effects. green has only recently started to get Stifles.
if you ACTUALLY want a niche answer, Collect Specimens the Sisay player.
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>>97931464
just get rid of your JewLo portfolio and eat the loss, it's never coming off
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>>97931502
if you knew how to answer something while still trying to win over your two other opponents you'd realize by now that tidebinder is completely niche
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>>97931464
>We can unban Jeweled Lotus
t.
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>>97931515
>you
who do you think I am?
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>>97931531
a casual that doesn't know how to win in a children's card game
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>>97931413
>Plane run by dragons is full of homosexuals
No way!
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>>97931201
>>97931206
>>97931218
>>97931373
>>97931263
Reminder it's only a pie break if you can see the broccoli. Mono white always excelled at card draw, chud.
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>>97931553
>post-FIRE post-UB straight-to-modern card
yawn
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>>97931538
>Taking pride in being a turbo sweat in a children's game
>redundancy is bad
>Tidebender can shut down more than just activated abilities making it more flexible, but it still bad.
Okay. I'm going to just go ahead and write off your opinions now.
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>>97931559
You're right. Every color has the ability to sacrifice 1/1 tokens to draw 2 cards for 1 mana.
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>>97931553
Do you just not know what the fuck an artifact is? Artifacts have always been able to do bullshit, just at an increased cost. The One Ring is not a color pie break, it's just an under-costed bullshit artifact.

>b-but you can put it in white
You can put it in anything you fucking rube. That's the fucking point.
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>>97931578
Universally available at an increased cost you say?
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>>97931566
>Taking pride in being a turbo sweat in a children's game
hey don't look at me i'm not the one claiming blue can answer everything in a children's card game though
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>playing a children's game
pathetic
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>>97931464
>Jeweled Lotus
Hahahaha after the total investor tard meltdown after the ban? No way. You can thank everyone who chimped out over that one for it never coming back. If people behaved normally it might have a chance but nope, self sabotaged to never return.
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>>97931580
blue can answer everything, though
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>>97931579
I really don't care about mono red having a 6 mana tutor that needs to be revealed and has a condition.
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>>97931579
Did I fucking stutter? Or are you trying to bait us into a retarded hybrid discussion which can be solved with the words "Colored Costs"?
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>>97931590
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>>97931528
Ayo hol up. Doesn't he go infinite with stuff like curiosity and ophidian eye?
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>>97931592
>>97931600
Therefore hybrid is not a pie break. QED
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>>97931604
Niv Mizzle goes infinite by sneezing
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>>97931604
He has other men going infinitely balls deep in his ass.
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reminder that any unban is automatically GC and if that makes you scared then please go back to B2
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>>97931619
You are allowed to be annoyed about the monumentally boneheaded choice to unban primetime or Prophet of Kruphix would be regardless of what bracket you are currently, or would be playing in, no matter how much you want to try and poison the well.
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Could mono-black infect still work somehow?
Could infect still work well at all?
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>>97931630
>You are allowed to be annoyed by cards that don't affect B2
but why would you "allow" yourself to be mad?
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>>97931635
Yeah? Just pillow fort and proliferate
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>>97931635
just kill everything and swing
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>>97931635
I am musing whether or not I will put tainted strike into my Evereth deck.
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>>97931640
Can you recommend me some good cards and commanders for that?
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>>97931635
ONE gave all colors other than red so many ways to proliferate or just flat out give poison counters its easier than ever.
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>>97931635
Infect works but you have to be cutthroat and focus fire on your target. Gradually poisoning everyone freaks people the fuck out and they will kill you for giving them two poison counters.
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>>97931656
I've been shoving this and Radstorm in to any spellslinger deck I make that can get a good storm count going.
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>>97931608
Why would it be a pie break, anon? Hybrid cards are explicitly designed to be within the design space of their requisite colors with only some flexion.

That has nothing to do with Artifacts. Most Artifacts are colorless and expensive for their effects because they do not have a color of mana restricting what can cast them.

The One Ring is a mythic boondoggle chase card that was pushed very fucking hard.

Skullclamp is an admitted and clear design mistake that remains on account of it being a beloved staple.

If you're telling me you can't tell the difference between a card with colors on it or a card with no colors on it, you need to talk to an ophthalmologist, not us.
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>>97931650
Give the cat girl some AIDs with phyresis, glistening oil, or exoskeleton.
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>>97931650
I have >>97931669 as alt wincon #4 in gogo
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>>97929656
i used to play edh at the band house, we had a fucking clearing stick for the table and i would make the fuckers wash the table before we played. homie would scoop and go to bed on the couch in one fluid motion. fucker kept hella cards in the couch cushions too. ' I CHEATED FIVE EXTRA CARDS AND STILL COULDNT BEAT YOU FUCK THE MAELSTROM WANDERER'
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>319 fucking dollary-doos
Christ. Didn't even think it was that popular.
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>>97931712
Less than half that in europe, crazy.
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>>97931483
>uhhh here's a niche answer that has no use anywhere else
That's just wrong. Tidebinder will shut down any commander's bullshit as long as she's out. 10 out of 10 top edhrec commanders have triggered or activated abilities that can get shut down by tidebinder. It's also from popular tribes like wizards AND merfolk.
This one drop answers your abrupt decay. So far you've spent 3+5+2+2 mana dealing with my 3+1.
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>>97931675
You may want to reread the posts more closely.
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>>97931747
>tidebinder
>mizzium skin
nice cedh deck you have there, post top cuts
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Just got called a pubstomper for winning a bracket 2 game on turn 8 with this lil dude that I made just to try out from all the spam he gets here.

They also said nevinnyrral’s disk is not bracket 2. Also mono green Voltron is apparently “op”. This is why I play bracket 4 almost exclusively.
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>>97931769
obligatory "this didn't happen by the way"
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Blue is the "I always have it" color. They can answer anything until they miss a timing window after which they cry.
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>>97931772
>bracket 2 fags angle shooting
I habeeb it
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>>97931753
Maybe you wanna look up what "QED" means before you spout it off to try and sound smart.
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>>97931780
You may want to take English 101 once you finish ESL class.
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>>97931769
Just call them a shitter and say get good, then be done with it.
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>>97931772
Pic rel
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>>97931783
What, you didn't take any Latin, or did you lose it all in the tragic accident that also made you a pompous upstart?
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>>97931604
No. usually deck yourself before you kill 3 other players. You need some method of shuffling your graveyard/hand back into your library.
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Just won a bracket 4 game, after removing the main complainer’s commander I got told lightning bolt is OP and an “unfun” card. They lost on turn 9 and I won the game on turn 10.

I guess this is another example of those damn alpha cards always being too OP even in 2026.

They suggested I put something more fun in that slot, what would YOU put in a red blue black control deck to be more bracket 4 friendly?
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>>97931944
>>97929977
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Just won a bracket 5 game, after removing the main complainer’s commander I got told island is OP and an “unfun” card. They lost on turn 90 and I won the game on turn 91.

I guess this is another example of those damn alpha cards always being too OP even in 2026.

They suggested I put something more fun in that slot, what would YOU put in a red blue black control deck to be more bracket 5 friendly?
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Ms. Bumbleflower
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>why yes I pay 6 mana for a counterspell
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>POV: You're playing blue.
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Took another step in my quest to cover up all the cards with art boxes I don't like with my own art, with some new art of the Balefire Liege-chan I originally drew more than a decade ago.
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>>97931966
And I thought it I was mad for paying 5.
>>97931974
Yes, and?
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>>97931975
Now she's in a more spellcasty pose, something I can use for both offensive and defensive spells.
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>>97931966
>dis nibba don't habeeb in fligger
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>>97931966
This was a pretty fantastic card in my proliferate deck, where I was producing so much mana that I didn't care abut the cost and the whelk would quickly go from a mid-size monster to the biggest beast on the board.
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>>97931977
booba :)
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>>97931976
That's a cool card.
Draining Whelk being a creature allows it to keep coming back and hard countering things, or just lock everyone out completely, but it's also just satisfying when someone taps out for like 8+ mana and you cast it for the hell of it.
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>>97931953
>>97931955
Yes, the people on MTGO are that big of baby complainers

If you guys actually played magic you’d know
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You guys think the weeb cards will go down in price soon? Not the chase ones obviously...
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>>97932007
>MTGO
>actual
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>>97932008
No
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I remember the first weeb cards. You had to buy two whole decks just to get Jace and Chandra.
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>>97932008
No. Good art will always hold its price, especially since UW troons/fags out hard with its lgbtbbq+++ ai art.
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>one of the most memorable animes of the last 15 years
>popular spin offs and mangas
>new movie coming out this summer

Bros...please lie to me...is tummycore going to be on the menu...?
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>>97932018
Gay people deserve representation despite how much it threatens your fragile masculinity and sexuality.
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>>97932041
based
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>>97932041
>>97932043
>Gay people deserve representation
and yet the alphabet people are a hive mind (almost 100% vote left for example) so in truth faggots don't deserve representation because they're not representative of diversity themselves
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>>97932065
cringe
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>>97932071
concession accepted fag
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>>97932041
>Gay people deserve representation
Why?
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>>97932018
>Good art will always hold its price
Yeah but we're talking about the weeb slop. You know, the shit that looks straight out of a gacha. Or an AI proompt.
> especially since UW troons/fags out hard
Erm... sis... your Cloud Strife?
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I am still waiting for positive representation of chuddy desu.
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>>97932083
>Yeah but we're talking about the weeb slop
you mean every other tcg out there and mtg is somehow above it because...?
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>>97932041
>selling sodomite porn to children is good!
Hey look, a demon.
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>>97932094
Gays reproduce by touching children.
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>>97932094
>Magic is for children
Oy vey goyim if that's the case we need to flatten all the women.
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>>97932098
The game is explicitly 13+
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>>97932098
>Magic is for children
correct
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>>97931955
thats an island son
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>>97932041
no one deserves anything
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Can we go back to the last thread? The discussion in that one was better.
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>>97932041
Yes they do deserve to be represented as the disease vectors and predators that they are


Magic is a kids game aimed at young teenagers. If you think 13, 14 year olds should be groomed with gay shit, you are a part of the problem
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>>97932148
No this one is good
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>>97932164
>/pol/shit falling for obvious bait is good discussion
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>>97932015
Yes a game where you don’t miss 50% of your triggers or get free take backs after playing a card or declaring attackers or moving phases, against skilled players from around the world is INDEED real, actual Magic
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>>97932065
>almost 100% vote left for example
Damn can't imagine why
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>>97932007
>Bracket 4
>Actual
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>>97932169
>nooo stop disagreeing with me
roru rumao fag
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>>97932181
>Stop disagreeing with me!!! I need to call this obvious bait a pedophile!!!
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>>97932148
Just talk about what you want and see if anyone else is interested bro. For example, I didn't get any (You)s, but I am still holding out hope for Puella tummykino secret lairs. Am I naive for thinking wotc will make cards with cute characters on them? Almost certainly. Am I retarded for trying to talk about it while polposters are active and chudding out? Absolutely!

Talk about what (on topic) subjects you want and let the thread decide if it's worth discussing.
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>>97932148
>Shitposting in OP
>Discussion in thread
>No shitposting in OP
>Shitposting in thread
Makes one wonder...
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>>97932260
99% of the sincere shitposting is commited by one anon, poopdickschizo, and whenever a thread gets baked that he doesn't like he goes and seethes in his "no ub allowed!" gay night club, and when he spams an early bake like he did with this thread he hangs around and shits the place up, which encourages others to troll and act like retards.

Don't worry, we have back to back ub releases coming up, which will demoralize the antiubfags like pds and help keep them out of the thread until Reality Fracture.
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>>97932179
Yes indeed bracket 4 is real commander

B2- low power commander, often lots of cry babies
B3- sane but with more people being crybabies and more people trying to break rules
B5- not commander

B4 - high power, strategic commander, games going often well past turn 8.
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>finish building deck
>try to shuffle and draw starter hands
>works well, good stable starts most of the time
>realise I have no real wincon
this might become an issue, huh...
it's green+blue+black, what would be some graveyard-y basic wincons to include?
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>>97932455
>He says as his opponent concedes to Lightning Bolt in b4
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>>97930692
Looks like you've got it all figured out anon! One recommendation might be Delney, Streetwise Lookout, if you feel like there are enough eligible creatures to justify it.
Just try playing the deck as is, and you'll very soon notice what is and isn't working.
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>>97930869
>Fynn tossed in there
kek, nice. looks like a fun deck!

>>97930887
>actual art and readable non-fucked design proxy
this is fine.
>winota
this is not fine.

>>97931635
>monoblack infect
just go for Karumonix or whatever the rat is. rat tribal, lore accurately give the critters toxic, chaos ensues.
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>>97931966
high cost cards with a low cost alternative that simply does it for a bigger payoff are so fucking based, I love it
there's also a green spell for 5 mana that's "destroy target artifact/enchantment. cascade" or something, equally nice.
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>>97932103
>i'm king of "your mom" jokes
>and your mom.
fucking kek
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>>97929686
yes, play esper and cheat shit by blinking it
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>>97932173
>edh
>real magic
lol
guffaw
lmao, even
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>>97929595
I awaken
Finally finished sleeving this up since I rebuilt it
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>>97929595
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>>97929595
I added Betor,Kin to All in the deck and took out floriferous vine wall but I refuse to take another picture of this deck.
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>>97929955
4/10
>>97930869
6/10
>>97932600
8/10
>>97932618
5/10
>>97932632
8/10
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>>97932632
You should add Jaws of Defeat, and the two 0/13 trees, all three create really funny situations whenever I play my Felothar(female) deck.
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>>97932656
>8/10 ratings for kindredslop and toughness matters forced Doran replacement
Shit taste.
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>>97929966
dude at the LGS runs it in his deck. every time people call him out and he dismisses them with "but I don't use it to win"
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>>97932618
Based waifu tribal deck
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>>97932600
I went into this list to shit on you like I did with your Golbez but this is way more fun looking.
>Valor and Glory
>Angel's Trumpet
>Pulse of the Grid
>Earnest Fellowship
>Haunted One
>Stromgald Cabal
>Order of the Sacred Torch
>Sworn Defender
>Order of Yawgmoth
>No GCs
>2/3rds of the lands are basics
There were objectively higher tier cards you could have picked and you intentionally didn't. You should build all of your decks with this blueprint.
>>97932670
>>>>kindredslop
Anyone who unironically says "kindred" when referring to tribal decks has a cock in their mouth. I don't make the rules.
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>>97932700
>wow so KOOOL
>two of the creatures are literally just counterspells on bodies
How is this a good thing exactly?
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>>97932709
>nonblue color-hate countereffect on an in-tribe creature
Gee Bill, I wonder why this is more sovlful than FoW or Mana Drain!
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>>97932700
A little advice swordbro, pretending to be anon and austically listing out cards kinda gives you away when you're trying to suck your own dick. I see you do it all the fucking time and it's a huge tell when some random "anon" starts doing it.
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>>97932766
>Pointing out actual soul when he's a b4fag makes me him
Suicide immediately, kindredfag.
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>>97932065
>why do all these gays not vote for the anti gay party?
Truly it is a mystery for the ages
>>97932017
I bought them for 2 bucks off eBay as singles.
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>>97932471
No a green/ white player complained that lightning bolt on their commander was unfun and suggested it was overpowered
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>>97931635
You would always want to cast him with haste, so consider him a six drop unless you have lightning greaves out. He’s like playing an elder dragon and can end games in about the same speed. It’s not as crazy fast as you might imagine it might be.

Caress of phyrexia is one of my favorite ways to close out a player. Have had a copy of Skith since scars of Mirrodin but just got around to making a Cdr. Deck with him last week
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>>97931966
Sublime epiphany, overwhelming intellect, spell shift, aethersnatch spellswindle, timestop etc are all based huge counter spells
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>>97932656
>8/10
Thanks!
>>97932700
I aimed explicitly for b2, and tried to use a lot of cool silly cards that make the game weird instead of just best in slot or any tutors outside of Entomb/Buried Alive. Shit's fun even if sometimes I don't have a play til turn 3 during playtests. Might have to check for more 1-2 drop Knights today.
>>97932766
I'm way too fat and gay to care about this, when I wanna talk about cool old cards I just post them
I was busy genning embarassed tiddy growth/HYPER TIDDIES on a Gardevoir for someone
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>>97932675
Thanks, I was wondering if there are any new green or white waifus printed recently.
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>>97932925
>I was busy genning embarassed tiddy growth/HYPER TIDDIES on a Gardevoir
Share?
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>>97932657
I do need to get Jaws of defeat I wanna say I saw someone do that combo and thats what made me want to get it
>>97932656
I think this is the first time someone liked the deck I posted.
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>>97932931
Not quite so recent but pic related works decently with Saryth and Mirri and wears the monster role from your commander pretty damn well.
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>>97929686
that art is awful, look at those tiny front legs
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>>97932837
Yes and you consider this "real"...?
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>>97932670
>forced Doran replacement
what did he mean by this?
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>>97932972
I will also recommend Behind The Scenes while you're at it, another really funny card for this particular kind of deck (kind of clatches with any card you have that give more power to creatures though, preferably only buff their toughness)
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>>97933117
This card is so damn based anon thank you for the recommendation I'm gonna get it asap along with jaws of defeat
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>>97933086
I have played this player one other time and they were bitching about other fairly benign stuff so yes, I believe they were being serious when they were complaining about lightning bolt

The part of the original post asking for something more appropriate for bracket 4 was a joke, however.
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>>97932896
Wow, this gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “jackin’ it”


I can imagine at a table one day, you know several turns in, you’ve got the open mana— Someone goes to play something and you play this interrupt and simply state “Nah. I’m jackin’ it.”
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>>97933371
>Here's my story of a bracket 4 player bitching about super benign shit in the highest-power bracket where the only thing separating it from cEDH is how hard you can cope
>This proves that the bracket is real EDH
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>>97933385
The universal constant of EDH is that someone will whine about something perfectly fair and reasonable if it makes them lose
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>>97933411
Thanks sheldon
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>>97933414
The spirit of the format is the rules being total shit and relying on players to follow the survivor rulebo- I mean rule 0.
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>>97933428
The rules of mtg as a pvp game have remained the same
It's just that sheldon introduced a board game mentality, and that simply isnt sustainable
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>>97933467
>board game mentality
Boy do I love seeing that shit.
>BRO COME ON JUST LET ME DO THE THING
>STOP FUCKING COUNTERSPELLING EVERYTHING
>WTF DO YOU MEAN INTERACTION IM PLAYING DINOS
>pod has maybe 2 pieces of interaction among them
>they think it's some sort of show and tell baby time
>mfw I send them to the shadow realm with rhystic, smothering, ghostly prison, and propaganda
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>>97933467
Even if you count player mentality, serious formats have more regulations than EDH because the rules operate under the assumption that players will use degenerate strategies to win if they're not banned. Meanwhile in EDH you have the cope of "please please please don't play like a huge faggot no I won't elaborate on what that means until we're 45 minutes into a game."
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>>97933467
>two players fors nothing but spam tokens every turn
>other player does nothing but load one guy with auras and equipment
>I use pestilence every turn to keep it all in check
>edict the voltron
>they get pissed that I won't let them do the thing (infinite combats with a 15/15 keyword soup) or even play the game (assemble a board of 100 30/30 creatures)
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>>97933098
A straight upgrade from Doran because Doran isn't valuepile enough.
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>>97933467
It was perfectly sustainable before Wizards started sticking their fingers in it and warping the entire game around
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>>97933681
WotC didn't force Sheldon to not update the banlist.
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>>97933681
It's one thing to quit the 60 card grind because the powercreep has become too much but powercreep in itself is inevitable and if you're whining that today's bulk rares are stronger than bulk rares from 15 years ago then you're exactly the board game player i'm talking about
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>>97933728
It's the overprinting of legends, designing cards for casual commander by making them setup and payoff on a single card, massively spiking power across the board with straight-to-Modern sets
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>>97933752
>too many legends trigger my autism
>powercreep on bulk b2 legends make me mad
Ok timmy
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>>97933539
>Nyc
Speaking of NYC, I'm going to NYC for a couple weeks. Any anons know a good LGS for jamming a few EDH games or maybe a draft or two?
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>>97933411
The problem with edh is players not the game
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>>97933411
thats every bracket
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>>97931712
It's just what happens to precons sometimes. Eventually the lack of stock catches up and inflates the price.
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>>97933773
This bro is defending modern horizons lmao.
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>>97934015
Commander Legends Ikoria and TBD changed edh more than MH ever did
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>>97934015
This bro is still crying about mh.
>For years and years now
lmao
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>>97931966
Depending on the deck this could have good return on value. I've been looking to add that to Orvar for one.
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>want to play commander for the mechanic but artwork and character sucks ass
what do?
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>>97933845
Hex&Co is the big one with three locations doing different formats, but it's also more of a normalfag-tier board game cafe
Gamestoria in Queens is pretty active if you're willing to leave Manhattan but it can be a bit cramped
Frontier Games in Brooklyn is more commander focused but they fire off a draft every week and has more of a local feel
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>>97934069
>killed Modern
>killed Legacy
You don't hate MH enough
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>>97934162
Thats rough. Was thinking of building a Quintorius deck that would like this but no thanks
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>>97934162
Get an alter
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>>97932600
Uh bro?? Your Namelsss Inversion??
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>>97934216
any suggestions? I'm totally out of ideas.
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>>97934162
he's an FF6 character, I'm sure there's plenty of fanart of him. (I checked the amano arts before posting, don't look, it's not better)
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>>97934223
I dunno, some hot anime babe?
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>>97934223
Draw an elephant on it, quintorius. Fits the leaves graveyard thing.
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>>97929346
Various news outlets talked about a new upcoming digital commander game from wotc. They talked about it 16 months ago, but I think that was never confirmed and officially announced.
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>>97929680
>t1 sol ring
>all three opponents rope you.
But at least you won after 50 minutes of timers running out.
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>>97929411
Are people restricting themselves or is everyone just playing the most broken cards all the time?
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>>97929680
Exactly one of those cards that I won't put in my actual paper deck. Fuck shuffling all the time.
Does it make my deck less consistent and weaker? Yes, but I prefer that to shuffling all the time
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>could fit grim lavamancer in my list for peak legacy nostalgia
>lets go OG for style points
>tfw seeing the price
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>>97929595
Magic Cinematic Universe
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>>97934223
just cut out the art of another card and paste it on top
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>>97934329
>he isn't buying an OG foil
>>97932958
>>>/vg/564526094
>>97934221
>Nameless Inversion
I went through both of my Black Common boxes and figured I'd find it, but it turns out I never had one. I might pick one up soon.
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>>97934409
>cutting up a legends card
I know its worthless but still...
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>>97934409
Holy fuck i got quoted on a magic card
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>>97934409
Chicago ass card
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>>97934409
DAAAAA bears
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>>97934329
A damaged version is 9 bucks.
Does it really matter that much?
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>>97934411
Is coffee good for you?
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>>97934449
based
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>>97934321
Oh , I'm not playing it like that, I don't know what people do and which cards they play I just wanted to be a smartass and own this other guy and then I did just that
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>>97934449
As far as I know, in moderation coffee is completely fine but I've never heard it be called "good" for anyone.
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>>97934447
you are right. i didnt notice it was on sale.
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>>97934460
I'm coming for your other parent now furfaggot
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>>97934474
t. Harry Dresden
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>>97934499
I keep thinking this is AI given how perfectly he personifies as chud. but its real
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>>97934520
Millhouse isnt a chud though
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>>97934474
>he's going to cum for my dad
weird tbqh, anon
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What's the best type of deck for a deep NTR feeling?
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>>97934596
>ntr
mtg cant even make a convincing love story to begin with
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>>97934574
I was betting that it was your dad that went out of pure shame, thanks for the info though.
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>>97934596
Giving all your opponents your permanents but they're actually not meant to kill them or harm them in anyway
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>>97934612
Is that what passes as your #1 best attempt?
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>>97934460
The Eldraine frame is so aesthetic.
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>>97934708
>>97934708
>>97934708
NEW
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>>97934635
Best attempt at what? I mean the vagueness suggests you are a bit rattled if that's what you're implying.
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>>97934718
No one is rattled by some fat faggot on 4chan lmao
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>>97934743 this faggot is >>97934709
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>>97934460
I have somehow not seen this printing before holy based



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